October 13, 2024 • 56 mins
Tim and Jade hang out and talk about recent music news, Tim's ventures outside of the podcast, upcomig shows and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up? Guys, Welcome back to another episode of
the Miss Minutes podcast. I'm your host, of course, Jade,
and I have with me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Tim. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was coming. Surprised
caught me slacking.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Gosh, get it together, Tim, I.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Need to Apparently, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
But yeah, guys, welcome back to another episode. It's great
to have you. We're gonna be chilling. We're gonna be
talking about a couple of feet things. And it's been like,
I don't know, like maybe a month and a half,
two months since Tim has been on the show with us.
It's great to have you back.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Tim, Thank you. Yeah, and I apologize for being absent.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Life happens, right, Yeah, it certainly does.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But we're certainly glad to have you back. So bursting first, folks.
Tim has some things that he wants to chat about.
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, Yeah, so I had I just heard about something
that I'm sure has to do with the band that
we all grew up with, or at least a good
percentage of us who are in the I guess twenty
five to thirty year old age range. Maybe a bigger
range than that actually, but three Days Grace just brought
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back their original lead singer into the band. Officially, it
looks like and he is joining who replaced him, apparently
doing like a co lead vocalist sort of situation. So
I thought that was an interesting development and that we
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could talk about that because I definitely grew up listening
to them and it was definitely the stuff that that
guy sang on, So I'm very interested.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah. Yeah, like most people like as they were finding
their way through rock and metal and that sort of thing.
I definitely remember listening to, of course all the bangers
from Free Day's Grace, so it is exciting to see
him back back performing again. I saw a video on
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TikTok of him performing, and at first I was like, no,
I'll stop playing, and I saw a few more and
was like, oh my gosh, this is for real. That's insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
No, I should have done more research and actually looked
up this video or some of these videos, because I've
heard about the fact that he performed as I'm already,
but I did not take the time to do that
due to baby. But that's okay. I will check it
out as soon as we get off here. Because I
definitely want to see that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, apparently they like first like quote unquote reunited. They
had a show in Alabama in April twenty twenty three,
so that was his first like kind of coming back
into performing and whatnot. And then later on they were like,
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so we did a thing and here we are, which
is really cool. It's been it's been obviously, it's been
a while, so definitely excited to see him back. I
think I can't remember. I think I saw I got
to see Three Day's Grace a few years ago, but
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I can't remember if Adam was there or not. I
genuinely can't.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how long they've been
bringing him on to do whatever he's been doing for
I guess the performance that went brasy on TikTok. I
don't know how long that's been going on. But it
definitely looks like he is fully back now, and I'm
definitely stoked about that. I'm actually looking up right now
to try and figure out when he left, because I
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don't know exactly, but I know it was a while ago. Uh,
let's see if I can find this. You can go
on though, while I do some Wikipedia deep diving Wipedia.
It's usually accurate unless someone goes in there and just
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is being a troll. Let me see. Okay, oh wait,
now that's not the right guy, is it. What's the
dude's name again? You said it's Adam right. I could
know this. This is just like stellar journalism right here, just.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Through podcast. This is yep, this is top tier reporting,
you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well see, I thought I knew who he was, and
it looks a little different, and I was like, oh am,
I stupid. I'm just wrong. I also don't want to
be completely wrong. I feel like not knowing is better
than being fully wrong. So that's I guess my take.
Excuse the burden.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean, I mean, Steve Harvey didn't get fully canceled
when he announced the wrong person's name at the what
was it the miss Was it missed Universe or was
it missed Uh? I think it was Miss USA or
something like that. And he was announcing the winner, and
(05:45):
I believe he said the wrong person's name and they
were like no, and it was a running joke for forever.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I was gonna say he didn't get canceled, but I'm
sure he got mercilessly roasted.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh yeah, big time got mercilessly roasted.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wait, oh I found it, Sorry to cut you off.
It was good twenty thirteen, so it looks like about
eleven years ago, which is crazy to think that it's
been that long because I was in high school in
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I was in eleventh grade. I graduated in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Same Actually I dropped out in eleventh grade. But yeah,
I would have graduated in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Life happens, it does. Graduating overrated it is.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I got a ged like pretty quickly, so it was
no big deal.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, hey, this is just wrong with that. At
least you got, you know, you got something out of it.
It's honestly completely going down a rabbit hole. There's like
this stigma around on whether people have degrees or not,
which I think for in some instances absolutely yes, one
thousand percent you need some sort of degree. But I
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also feel like there's this like weird stigma with people
who who have a degree, like they sometimes and even
by accident, sometimes they treat people differently because they don't
have one. And I always always hated that I personally
have a degree, and I know people that are a
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thousand times smarter or have better skills than I do.
So it's not about the piece of paper you have,
it's the knowledge that you actually have exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, And there's so many ways to acquire
knowledge these days that don't require paying some institution a
ridiculous amount of money. So people are learning skills on
their own and not having to rely on some sort
of degree we out.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I really think, like if it's going to be if
you're gonna do like like an undergraduate degree, depending on
like how in depth you go, I think it shouldn't
cost quite as much as it does. There should be
obviously be a cost that you know you're working towards it.
And you know these colleges don't you know, they don't
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run on in air, like they got to have some
sort of revenue coming in, right, But it also shouldn't
put me fifty thousand dollars in debt to want to
better myself. So it's like somewhere somewhere there's some sort
of middle ground we can meet at, right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right, you would think, But you know that's the that's
the whole game. They know people will pay it, so
they continue to charge it that.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then like especially like when I was coming up
or when I was growing up, they always like people
would kind of preach to you and be like, oh,
if you don't go get a degree, then whatever, you're
you're a bum and you're not going to do anything.
I know plenty of people without degrees that are you know, successful, happy,
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that have done a lot more with their lives than most.
So I think it just depends on your work ethic
and the things.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That you want to do in life exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And also just to clarify, I wasn't trying to shit
on like actually going and getting a degree, because it
is accomplishment that you should be proud of. But yeah,
I'm just definitely an advocate for people like going and
just like if you have the it's because it's not
an easy thing to like seek out the knowledge. Like
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it's kind of just like when someone is teaching it
to you and you have a curriculum, it's a lot
more structured and going and just like seeking out each
individual thing you're trying to learn as you're trying to learn.
It is a little bit more difficult of a learning process,
but for some people it works better. So I definitely
am an advocate for at least trying to teach yourself
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things if you can through YouTube and you know, whatever
you can find on the internet.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And just reading. I'm serious about things going to first, yeah,
I mean going to museums, learning about stuff, watching documentaries
about as long as they're not like you knows documentaries
and stuff like that, but like watching stuff about things
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that you don't know about, Like that's how we learn. Yeah,
I've watched I used to watch, like kind of segueing
back into music, I used to watch documentaries about like
musicians or bands that I was familiar with, but not
I didn't have like all bunch of knowledge about, Like
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I wasn't like one thousand percent knowledgeable about right. So
I found that it made me like appreciate music a
little bit more in a weird way. Absolutely, just like
just hearing about like even like you know, the old
like hair metal bands from like the seventies and eighties,
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Like like learning about the stuff that they went through
and how how different the music scene was when they
were first starting out was definitely something that affected me
and gave me a better appreciation for music for what
it is.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Absolutely, yeah, no, And I love watching stuff like that too. Honestly, Like,
even if it's like an artist that I don't even like,
really care that much for, I still just like hearing
people's like stories and how they rose to where they
are now because it's it's you know, it gives you
a sense of like this is possible and this is
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something that you can do if you work for it.
So very motivational for me. I love that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, So following up with that a little bit, I'm curious,
what what local band do you think, like you would
want to see like a behind the music documentary type
thing about.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Uh like uh like local like level local or local
like they're from close to me sort of thing both. Yeah,
because I mean I just wanted to clarify because it's
obviously there's less to learn about bands that are you know,
have a less of a catalog and less of a history.
But you know, it's still interesting. That's actually it's a
(12:51):
good question. So I have to let's circle Let's circle
back to that in a second after I've had a
sec to think about it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, Well, I mean I can I can think of
like a smaller ish band, I mean most people and
if you know me at all, listeners, then you know
exactly what band I'm about to say.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I feel like I do.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Easily one thousand percent. I need a full on behind
the scenes documentary about the homies Fight from Within. I
just want a whole documentary about everything and just seeing
from the beginning, like like a collage of like people
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moshing and all that give me, give me all the things.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, no, that would be cool because they definitely have
you know, they have more of a history than a
lot of I would say, like local bands, they've been
around long enough to actually, you know, put a good
little story together. So I would definitely watch that. Those
dudes are killers. So I actually did think of my
answer though while you were talking, and I will have
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to go with my good friends in Dying Arms because
they're they're both they're more of a regional band as well,
just like Fight from Within, but they are they've been
around for fuck I want to say almost fifteen years,
might be fifteen years, and they've just been like consistently
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irrelevant somehow, no matter what has changed, and they've gone
through a lot of lineup changes and variations in their sound,
and you know, times when they've been like heavily touring
and times when they haven't been touring at all, and
you know, it's just I think that would be a
very interesting story.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So yeah, I have to agree with you. And for
those of you who have not given it a chance already,
by the time this episode comes out, Dark Day said
buy in Dine Arms will have been out for a
little bit, so make sure you go on Spotify or
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wherever you get music and check that out. Because as
of course, you guys know hashtag support the homies over here.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah I'm straight. Yeah, no, I was actually going to
bring that up if you didn't follow me up with it,
but yes, no, I am actually lucky enough to have
heard all of these songs already because Oriyan has been
a really close friend for a decade almost or over
a decade. Damn, I hate time. Time is weird, but
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but yeah, anyway, you know, we talked pretty regularly, so
he's He's shown me these songs in different stages over time,
and I'm just really excited for them all to be
coming out as a full body of work. So I
hope people go listen to it. It's really fucking good.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm certainly excited to hear it myself. At the time
of recording, it's not out, yeah, but it'll be out tomorrow.
Like I've ober fourth so excited to hear.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That when the episode is out right, so we'll be good.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm also kind of like mentioning another release that I'm
really excited for. It's very bittersweet and I'm probably gonna cry,
but the last Dead Switch release comes out tomorrow, I believe.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, that's one of the ones I was going to
bring up as well.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Damn if I'm not gonna be sad when when it's out,
because it's gonna be I already know it's gonna be
bangers after bangers and then we get nothing else after that,
and I'm like, ah.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Why yeah, No, It's it's funny because I have I've
only ever seen them once, but I have a very
specific like attachment to that band, just because they played
on the very first date of our very first tour back.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
In twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and they headlined the West Virginia date and it
was actually with their old vocalist Cory, who now does
vocals for Rundown. So if you like hardcore, go check
out Rundown as well. They just put out I think
a three or four song release that's really killer. So
go check that out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
A couple of the songs on it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, no, that that's they're they're awesome. I like all
the guys in those in that band a lot. Actually,
I don't think I know one of them if I'm
not mistaken, But anyway, they're sick. Go check them out.
But yeah, we got to play the very first date
of our very first tour with Dead Switch. So it's
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a bummer to see them, you know, calling it quits,
But it's cool to have been some small part of
the legacy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, definitely. I remember the first time I ever saw them.
It was at and this is some some lore, it
was at Champion Brewery at it was an Alpha zero
event here in Virginia and Charlottesville. And if you're a
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real one, you already know that show was a lot
of fun. It was you know, things have happened, but
you know, we're not going to dwell on the negative.
But getting to see Dead Switch perform was really cool.
And I've seen them two other times. I saw them
two other times after that. I saw them at a
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little place in Winchester, Virginia, called Granny's. Shout out Granny's.
You guys are from Virginia and you've been to Granny's,
make sure you drop a mike and a comment in
the comscuse me something in the comments, letting us know
that you've been to you that's some nice little mom
and pop type place. Super nice place, great people, good service.
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I haven't been back there in a little bit. Might
have to change that. But and the other time, the
only other time I've seen that switch was at chaos
Fest again, shout out fory, we love you, homie.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Hey, yeah, did you need to go.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To Chaos Fest at all?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I wish it looked like it was awesome. But where
was that. I was in Virginia, right, Yeah, it was
in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It was at Granny's and it was outside, so they
did like you could go inside to like to go
and you know, inside to get beer and sit down
if you wanted to. It was it was hot that day.
But I got footage of almost all the bands, so
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on my TikTok go follow me.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Mhm, shameless plug.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Absolute But no, it was a good time. It was
hella homies there. I got to see you had the
Betrayr again. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah. I love those guys. We got the We've gotten
to play with them, I think twice now if I'm
not mistaken. But uh, I also got to shoot for
them like two months ago.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I got to shoot them at Auto Bar
with a Rose Funeral and uh freakaing who else was
it Rose Funeral and someone viscroll discord. It was a
crazy show.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That was definitely a cool time. Speaking of shooting photos,
another shameless plug, go follow my foot to Instagram at
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Speaker 1 (21:16):
You heard it here, Folks, Go support the homies. You
know the thrill we got. We got some very talented folks.
Follow all of our our co hosts various escapades. Make
sure you go follow Two Sides of Me, Go follow Varia,
Go follow Ruby on TikTok, follow all of their various
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escapades and things to follow him and all of his bands, his.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Bands A yeah, I also play in a band. If
you don't know, it's called for fear itself. Anyway, let's
stop plugging and get.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Back shameless plugs.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There is another like last release and you know, disbandment
that I wanted to talk about with Blood of the Martyrs,
who has been like at least doing small tours from
my knowledge since I was like fifteen, because I saw
them when I had to be like fifteen or sixteen
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that I believe sonar in Baltimore, and I've had one
of their t shirts with a kool Aid man on
it ever since. And they were one of those bands
that I saw when I was a teenager and I
was like, oh, I want to do this, so shouts
out to them. I don't remember what the name of
their last release is actually right at this time, but
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go check that out when it comes out again, Blood
of the Martyrs. They've been around for quite a while.
And another band calling it quits, and I get it
because it's expensive to keep doing Honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I got the release pulled up. It's called Here at
the End of all Things, and it'll be out October
thirty first, very fitting, I dig it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But again, that's that good journalism right there, because I
should have had this pulled up before I brought it
up and it should have been in my notes actually,
But you know, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We're making it work, we're making it through it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'm still learning. I'm new to this, so it's.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
ALOI it's all good. We're having a great time. Yeah,
it really is really sucks when when bands fall apart
or call it quits or just can't like you know,
like you said, being in abandon is pretty expensive. And
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you know, first pan obviously from being in for Fear itself,
what do you feel like is the most expensive thing?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Music videos and recording fair I mean, and that's also
hard because like I don't have to buy a lot
of gear because I'm a singer, so gear also there's
a ton of just like massive expenses. Luckily, with like
the gear side of things, it's usually a one time
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expense unless you're trying to upgrade down the line once
you've you know, gotten a little bit bigger or anything
like that. But stuff like music videos and just getting
your your music mixed and mastered is going to be
just a constant. So one thing I would always always
advise is to if you can get someone in your
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band that does one or both of those things, that's
you know, that's gonna be hard to come by. But
if you can get someone in your band that does,
you know, good audio production, and then someone else that
does music videos, you're saving a ton the money right there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, there's a lot of bands, a lot of people
do stuff in the house, like you mentioned obviously, production stuff,
music videos, merch designs.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that you can do
to elevate what your band is able to do without
spending as much money. So, like Jade just pointed out,
doing learning how to do graphic design, even if it's
not to the degree of being able to do like
merch designs yet, because unless you're doing something very simple,
it can be there's a little bit of like a
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I don't know, it's it's daunting for me, I guess
because I'm like, oh, we're putting in the money to
print this. If I made the design not look good,
this is gonna look like, you know, look like a button,
I'm gonna get blamed for it. So maybe there's just
a layer of anxiety attached to it. But learning like
any sort of graphic design, videography, photography, sound engineering, anything
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like that that isn't just your instrument or your normal
duty as part of your band will definitely elevate what
you're able to do without having to spend as much money.
So I would always always advise at least trying to
do one of those things.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yep, you are exactly right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I'm doing too many things right now. So I mean,
I'm doing photography, I'll do graphic design for the band
and for other bands, and I do the management for
our band. I have previously managed other bands. It's you know,
it's a lot of work, but if you love it,
it's it doesn't feel so much like work.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, that's it's kind of how I feel, kind of
like doing this, Like it doesn't it doesn't really feel
like work, per sae. Like obviously we're putting work into it,
but it's like, especially when it's just all of us
just hanging out and chilling, it just it doesn't feel
like work. It feels like I'm just hanging out with
the homies and we just happen to be talking about
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music and someone press record before we started.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Talking, right, exactly, That's what it should be, because I mean,
if it's just like I don't know, too scripted to
just like every single thing is a bullet point where
you have to stay on topic constantly, you know, and
wants to listen to that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So, yeah, we got too many, too many rabbit holes
to go down.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Too much ADHD, too much ADHD.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
No, I lied, I take that back. You can never
have too much AVHD.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, anyway, I also had let me. I mean, I
know we pick usually two more like hard rocking metal stuff,
but one of my favorite thing in the bounce composure
is releasing it out very soon. The Spirit. Yeah, they
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they've been around for quite a while, but they disbanded,
I want to say, in like twenty seventeen or eighteen,
and I got to see one of their last shows
and it was just, you know, one of the best
times of my life because I know every single song
we have ever put out sort of obsession level with
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this band. So yeah, I'm just it comes out in
three hours, that comes out at midnight. So I was
just I think it either comes out this Friday or
next Friday. And that's something I should know with how
much I like this band. But I got I got
dad brain, I have I get yelled at by a
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baby all day and thoughts just kind of go in
and fly out the other end. So anyway, yes, Balance
Composure with You in Spirit comes out at midnight as
well if you're in more of like a indie rock
or like post grunge sort of sound. They've been labeled
a lot of different things over the years, but either way,
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give them a give them a listen.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, when MA get off of here, send me the link.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'll check it out definitely. Will. Do you have Spotify,
I'll just send it right now. Sorry, I will send
that to you now before I forget. But uh, but yeah,
so there's a there's a few singles out from that already.
But and I've been I've been jamming them pretty heavily,
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so I'm pretty excited for that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to check it out.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let me see. I think that might be the end
of what I had other than just my like like
I wrote down just to talk about our recent tour
because I figured I should try to talk about the
band and push that a little bit. But we recently
did a tour with Wilt Wither and float Omen, who
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both are incredible and you definitely need to check out
both of them if you haven't. Will Wither put out
a release called The Yellow Wallpaper. I want to say
a few months ago. It's been it's pretty recent. And
then float Omen has a release they just came out
with as well, and it's I'm coming up with the
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single name above the waves. But hold on, we are
going to pull this right now. What is it called?
It's the Degradation of Life. Sorry, they said it every
night on tour, so I should be able to remember.
But again, dad brain just thoughts, just don't get trapped
in this, in this hollow shell of a head. So
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again the float Omen the Degradation of Life and what
weather is the Yellow Wallpaper? I would highly recommend both
of those releases. They are all incredible people and we
had a great time on tour with them.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I'm glad that tour went well. Anything particularly interesting happened,
any like craziness in the pits.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Or anything, nothing too crazy that I'm thinking of off
the top of my head. We did get to play
with h our friends in Varia and I on stage,
and even now am like, oh am I saying their
name right, because for some reason in my brain, I
just like I can never remember like how you say it,
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but it's very it right, So I'm I'm not messing
it up, and I didn't mess it up the first time.
I was just like, oh did I mess it up?
So and on stage in Richmond, I was like, oh,
very it right, my badly, and then the song just started.
And it probably seems like I was trying to diss them,
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but it's not like that I love them.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm just yeah, I I have to really like watch
sometimes because I'm really bad about remembering people's Like people
probably think I just don't care, and like, no, I
swear I care. I just there's a lot going on
up here.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
So and there's just like eighty there's like so many bands,
Like there's like eighty bajillion bands in the world and
there's like eighty million bands that I enjoy and want
to support, and not like it's not like.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Every band sounds the same thing or like every band
looks alike. It's just there's just a lot of them,
which I'm glad because that gives me more music to enjoy.
And you know, more of my friends are out there
making art which makes them happy, which I'm cool with.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But also, Jesus, it is a crazy amount of names
to remember. Absolutely, yeah, I know, and even and this
tour wasn't very long for us, but I did not
remember everyone's name until the very end of it when
I was making sure that I like followed everyone on
Instagram and stuff like that. So it's hard, especially when
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you're you know, you're running on a gas station food.
My brain works even less well during those sorts of circumstances. So,
I mean it's the ADHD paired with just you know
what is probably a decent level of autism. Yeah, it
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just sometimes when brain just don't be braining, it would
be like that it happens, and then other times it does.
So that's the confusing part.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But yep, I can relate what is like your uh,
your go to like for food. I know you said
like gas station stuff, Like what's your like thing that
you have to whenever you are on the road.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
For me, it's definitely whatever is like regional, like whatever
regional like fast food or you know, something like that
that we can get is always my go to. Like
when we go a little bit down south, it starts
being cookout immediately, Like as soon as we hit Virginia,
it's like, all right, we're going to cookout. And if
we don't get a cookout I'm fighting somebody because I
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need a cookout style burger. It's it's it just has
to happen, and it's so cheap and it's so good.
It's so much better than all of the other fast
food and it's so much cheaper. It just doesn't make
any sense. So that that's what happens there. And you
go out more like Midwest and over towards like I
think we were in like Texas or something, when you
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start getting like Jack in the Box. I had to
try Jack in the box and it was definitely cool.
That's more of like a Jack in the box is strange.
I don't know if you ever had it, but it's
like you have not. They have a like they have
everything for some reason. They have like they have burgers
and shit, but they also have like egg rolls, and
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it's just like why do you have? I think, and
I think that I have like one like semi pseudo
Chinese like Entree. It's like probably like Low Maine with
like bride Chicken or something ridiculous like that. But I
didn't even dare to venture to try that. But you know,
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they have like they have burgers and they have like
mini tacos. And regular tacos, and it's just like y'all
are doing I think too much, uh, and all of
it is fine, you know, but none of it is
like exceptional. So I think that's their problem is they're
just doing too many things.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I kind of feel that way about sheets sometimes, like
I love sheets food, but like some of this stuff,
I'm just like that this is unnecessary, Like why is this?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean obviously, like the the ones that go
without mentioning are like sheets and wah wah. Like every
touring musician is, like, you know, from at least if
they're from this general region, is familiar with those and
looks at them as a godsend. But also what I
didn't remember to mention until now is BUCkies, which is
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like the most tour stop because you can actually get
like good, like a delicious pulled pork sandwich that's just
sitting there ready for you on the little heated pad
because they I don't know, they probably cycle them every
hour or something. Because Bucky's like quality with everything is
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just kind of over the top almost where it's like
the bathrooms are so clean that it's like you would
you would feel safe eating in there, which I wouldn't do,
but like you would, you would feel okay doing it
if you had to for some reason. And like the
BUCkies when you go down the like drink aisles and
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the snack aisles and everything, everything is like perfectly facing
forward and straight at all times, and it just doesn't
make any sense. Like it's like those little like invisible gremlins,
like going and straightening all the shelves behind people. It's
it's wild.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I've never been to a BUCkies. I would love to go.
I'm hoping to get to go to one soon, but
I have never actually been to a BUCkies. I hear
about it all.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The time from I'm sure you do every from.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Every band ever one as soon as they go on
tour and there's a BUCkies and your brother like, oh,
we gotta go to BUCkies.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's like it's the mecca. It's like a gas station
Walmart that has delicious food and also like t shirts
and neck pillows and all kinds of stuff with a
cute little beer on it. My shout out to my
new guitarist Kevin, who also plays in a band called
Problem Solver. My my bassist also does shouts out Problem Solver,
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but he got to not only experience his first little
run of shows on this tour, but also I got
to experience BUCkies for the first time and walked out
of there with a beaver beanie and a beaver adorned
neck pillow, and it was it was just cool to
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see because I was just like, yeah, I got to
I got to help provide this like experience. So it
was cool. Man. I like, I just like being part
of stuff like that. That's why we do it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That's awesome. I'm glad he got to have that experience.
I'll catch up.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
One day now. You got to when you ever, whenever
you get a chance. So you have to definitely check
out a BUCkies because it's a it'll change your world,
it really will.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
For sure to make a trip. And speaking of making
trips and such, before we roll up out of here,
I'm curious, are you going to any shows over the
next few weeks?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Right now? Honestly, I'm pretty much only going to stuff
that I am like working shooting photos because money is tight.
But hopefully that changes soon I'm able to afford to
go out and enjoy other things where I'm not also working.
Because it's like we mentioned earlier when because i love
shooting photos, so it doesn't really feel like work. But
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it's at the same time, like I have to, like,
you know, just concentrate on what I'm doing, and my
earplugs are in so I'm not hearing as well versus
like I'll usually stand towards the back and maybe not
where about your plugs because I don't need them as
much as I'm not directly in front of the pas
when I'm sure shoting and I'm like right in front
of the pia's and music's blasting, It's just I'm not
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even really fully paying attention to what's like being played.
I'm just I'm only using my eyes at that point,
if that makes any sense, because I'm so focused on
trying to get shots, so I don't get to fully
enjoy the music. So I like being able to also
go and you know, watch shows where I'm not shooting
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photos so I can just actually experience it normally.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's fair. I think the next show that I'm going
to is over six. I'm going to be going to
see What Lies Below and the homies Two Sides of
Me and and the Herd. They're going to be playing
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at Lounge at Ledo if I'm that correctly. I hope
that I am on Sunday. Shout out Spin Kicker Booking
for putting it together.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Where is that it's Virginia, I would assume too.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's like in Lynchburg, So
I know you're not from Lynchburg or from the area,
but it's let's say, like thirty ish minutes away from
my house, so it's not like too far away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I wish we lived closer so we could go to
some of the same shows. That would be dope, it'll
happen soon enough.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, and there's a car.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
So I can go out of state more. I don't
have a vehicle, so I gotcha.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, it's this is my first show in a few months,
so it's it's been a little while. But finding out
that there was a show like less than an hour
away from my house, I was like, I gotta go
so and plus the homie is gonna be there, so
come on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Oh well, Lies Below and Two Sides of Me are
both incredible and Elijah is the homie, so gotta go support.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Absolutely, And speaking of some more homies, October twenty six
is going to be Medicorps Massacre in Roanoke at the
Spawn Kurt, we got Dying Earth, Seasons, Freedom from the Shadows,
and to Be a King. I have never been to
this venue, but it's in Ronoak, which is about an
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hour or so away from where I live, so should
be a fun time. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
This will second or third time I've seen Seasons, and
this will be the actually the first time that I've
seen Dying Oath like in in concert. And fun fact,
for those of you who have been longtime fans, Dying
Oath was one of the first on paper interviews we
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ever did. That's on our really cringy website that I
need to fix. But shout out Mindy and the Dying
Oath crew for for being homies and being dope.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh that's awesome. I've heard of all of these bands
a lot of times that I've never gotten to see them.
I'm definitely familiar with Seasons, and I saw recently it
looked like their show at another Round did pretty well.
I saw a good amount of pictures from it.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
So yeah, Seasons had they had a big announcement. I
believe they're going to be playing with uh Oh my gosh,
is it Miss May?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I think, oh, that's awesome, that's huge.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah, I'm super excited for them. That's really that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah no, I was gonna say pretty I'm pretty sure
I brought this up on our last episode. But the
first like actual mash that I ever got into is
Miss May. I had warped tour in like twenty eleven.
I think nice.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I think my first like on purpose was it was
at what I call my birthday show, and it was
a local show at Champion Brewery and it was band
called in. If you're you're a local to Virginia, then
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you already know The The Men Configuration ri Ip another
band gone way too soon, But it's okay because the
homie Corey is out here doing amazing things. But uh,
for that show, it was The The Men Configuration Disposed
Dead Era, Gradual Slip and Brain Cell and it was
(44:57):
cold and it was still fun any way. I got
hit in the face by accident, and shout out Ford
for checking on me. It was a fun time though.
And then I accidentally got into a pit at Motionless
and White at Blue Ridge Rockfest, and because I wasn't
really paying attention and then I just kind of got
(45:19):
like sucking and I was like, well, gosh, what's happening?
Scared and then I got over it very quickly.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
See, yeah, that was probably like a push pit, so
that can be scary.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, And it was like, like I said, I wasn't
really I was mostly focused on like watching the show,
so I wasn't like paying attention per se, So which
is my own fault and I should have known better.
But like my friends like like kind of yanked me
back and we're like no. I was like, guys, help,
I don't know what I'm doing helping. Well, that was
like my one of my first like official shows because
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I think that same time I also saw Trivium that day,
I saw Knocked Loose that day, and so it was
it was a great day and it really kind of
solidified me wanting to be a part of the scene.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's awesome. I love here and stuff like that, and
Knocked Loose will do that to you, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean, shoot, I think I think everyone's gotten gotten
injured in some way, shape or form at a Knock
Loose bid.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
See. The only reason I haven't is because the only
time I saw them, I was like way in the
back and I was already a little tipsy by the
time they came on, so I was I was, you know,
I wanted to go ma wash, but I was like, oh,
I know, I'm gonna get my fucking this is not
going to be good. So yeah, I didn't do that.
(46:54):
But instead I danced on people very annoyingly, and some
like some white girls that definitely found them on TikTok
or some shit like got really annoyed and I was like, okay,
go in front of me then, so I'm not jiggling
my butt on you because I'm gonna jigg out my butt.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Watch out when you go to shows, folks, you might
might get danced.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
On by tim Yeah. I mean watch that in general,
because like, if you're going to shows, people might be
having fun. So uh maybe that shouts out of those girls.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I mean there's like a whole I saw before before
we wrap this up. I saw this video as a
while ago. It's like like younger generations like finding knocked loosing,
like going to their shows for the first time and
all that. And I'm kind of in that weird place
of like I haven't been like a lifelong fan or anything,
(47:55):
but I'm familiar with them and I know them and
I know the classics, and so I would consider myself
a band. So it's interesting seeing like that push and
pull between the people who have liked Knocked Loose since
they were like fifteen years old and the people that
are like in their twenties that are just finding them
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and are like slowly figuring out that they enjoy that
kind of music. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
No, it's super interesting to see. And myself, I feel like,
you know, I sound like a poser because I only
got into them, like like I got kind of into
them when they had out Another Shade of Blue, Like
I was like into the singles, but I wasn't like,
oh this is my shit, I'm going to see them.
(48:42):
I'm fucking I know the full album. I'm buying their
merch But then when they came out with a Tear
in the Fabric of Life, that ep like really sold me,
and I was like, Okay, no, this band is like
this shit and I love this. So I'm more of
a real relatively newer, like actual fan. But I also
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noted the culture and I've grown up in the culture,
so that's the I feel like the distinction there and
a lot of the people that are getting into them
now are not familiar with the like the heavy music
culture at all, but specifically the hardcore culture, because the
hardcore culture is it's it takes a little getting used
to when you're actually experiencing it because it doesn't get
(49:28):
quite as like crowdkillie at their like big shows now,
at least from what I saw when I saw them,
but like you know, in their I wouldn't say their
glory days, but like in the days when they were
in smaller venues where there's more of those like crowd
killer types of people, it's something you got to watch
(49:49):
out for. So I've definitely seen a lot of just
like the people that have gotten too knock loose through TikTok,
going to like smaller hardcore show was like not knowing
what's happening. Yeah, more so online than in person, but
I've also seen it in person, and it's it's you know,
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I get it. Like like I said, it's hard to
get used to. It's uh, when someone just comes up
and like punches you, you're probably gonna be explaining.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I mean it took me a little bit because I
didn't I started going to shows and getting into that
particular genre or section of metal music. So like it
took me a little bit to get to understand it
as well. So like I sympathize with folks, but I'm
also like, you know, like you kind of it's you
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have to respect the danger that comes with it, and
you have to respect the culture. And you know, if
you're not gonna, you know, and in the least gatekeeping
way possible, if you're not gonna take it seriously and
actually be respectful of it, then just just don't find
find different stuff to listen who or find different shows
to go to. It's like if you're gonna you know,
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you're gonna go to a hardcourse show and then be
mad because you got hit, Like it's kind of silly,
but you know that's kind of my take on it.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean in most instances, like if
you takes the time to go a few times and
figure out the room, you'll figure out where the spots
you can stand are where you won't get hit. But
also I don't want to piss off the hardcore crowd
because they would be very offended by calling it a
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part of metal because it's considered uh, it's it's subgenre
of punk is where it came from. Even though it's
a lot heavier than like the roots of hardcore punk,
that's that's still where it came from. So yeah, before
the comments are like, oh but hardcore is not metal,
we know, we know, I swear.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oka cancels please.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It's funny though, how adjacent it is and how many
like kinds of metal are literally just offshoots of hardcore,
because I mean, the core in metalcore and death core
comes from being hardcore inspired, so it all it comes
from its branches of the same tree to an extent,
but there's definitely distinctions between them.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, there are bands that are doing a lot to
kind of come combine different styles and different bits and
pieces like of death core and hardcore and even like
a little like a little bit of metal core like
has Has that. I always described it as kind of
that bite to it, the extra like the actual little
(52:49):
bass in their voice or the extra piece during a
breakdown or whatever it is that they're adding to make
the difference, right. I definitely can appreciate when bands are
doing that kind of stuff. Make for some good jams
for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
No, Yeah, I love to see the genre blending and
using different aspects of like what is kind of regarded
as being a staple point of like one specific subgenre
I And I also like to see just the fact
that like these all these subgenres have gone through I
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guess what is usually referred to as waves, where there's
like the first wave of like say, metal core, is
so much different than what you would call maybe like
the third or fourth wave or wherever we are now.
And it's just it's cool to see how music progresses
over even just like the time that I've been alive,
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because when I was a kid, like the metal core
quote unquote that was popular. It was it's a good
blend of metal core and post hardcore honestly for a
lot of it, but like it was like the crab core,
like you know, asking Alexandria, Attack, Attack and all of
that sort of stuff. And right now what's popular is
actually like the wave of metalcore and death core that
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came out like all kind of around that time, but
right kind of before that, just like the more just
like metallic hardcore metal core, like actually very hardcore influenced
metal core, and then like og just MySpace style deathcore,
like those are two of the types of music I've
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noticed really gaining traction again in our scene, and it's
just cool to see because you didn't really hear a
lot of bands that sounded like either of those sounds
for a while.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah. The revival stuff just sounding really dope out there,
and I'm excited to see where where else it can go.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, not me too, Yeah, shouts out Restricted. They're like
MySpace style deathcore band my homie Gino does vocals for,
So give them a listen as well. They have I
believe a three song EP out on all streaming platforms.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
I will definitely give them. Give them a listen here
in a minute. Well, yeah, I think it might be
down all e quiz for the night, brother, what do
you think?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, that sounds good. I have definitely been kind of
just yapping on and on side.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
That's nothing wrong with a little little yapping every now
and then. Good to get to kind of catch up
and talk about different things. So I've definitely enjoyed sitting
down and catching up with you. It's been fun listeners.
You guys know how we get down of here. You know,
we always sport the homies and we're going to support
our co hosts as well, so make sure that you
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go and support Tim's band for Fear Itself. Go like
our other co hosts bands and projects as well, go
to shows when they have them, by merch when they
have it. You guys know the drill. Yeah, it's been
great dude likewise, and we will catch you guys next time.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
M
What is up? Guys, Welcome back to another episode of
the Miss Minutes podcast. I'm your host, of course, Jade,
and I have with me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Tim. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was coming. Surprised
caught me slacking.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Gosh, get it together, Tim, I.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Need to Apparently, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
But yeah, guys, welcome back to another episode. It's great
to have you. We're gonna be chilling. We're gonna be
talking about a couple of feet things. And it's been like,
I don't know, like maybe a month and a half,
two months since Tim has been on the show with us.
It's great to have you back.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Tim, Thank you. Yeah, and I apologize for being absent.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Life happens, right, Yeah, it certainly does.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But we're certainly glad to have you back. So bursting first, folks.
Tim has some things that he wants to chat about.
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, Yeah, so I had I just heard about something
that I'm sure has to do with the band that
we all grew up with, or at least a good
percentage of us who are in the I guess twenty
five to thirty year old age range. Maybe a bigger
range than that actually, but three Days Grace just brought
(01:29):
back their original lead singer into the band. Officially, it
looks like and he is joining who replaced him, apparently
doing like a co lead vocalist sort of situation. So
I thought that was an interesting development and that we
(01:50):
could talk about that because I definitely grew up listening
to them and it was definitely the stuff that that
guy sang on, So I'm very interested.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah. Yeah, like most people like as they were finding
their way through rock and metal and that sort of thing.
I definitely remember listening to, of course all the bangers
from Free Day's Grace, so it is exciting to see
him back back performing again. I saw a video on
(02:22):
TikTok of him performing, and at first I was like, no,
I'll stop playing, and I saw a few more and
was like, oh my gosh, this is for real. That's insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
No, I should have done more research and actually looked
up this video or some of these videos, because I've
heard about the fact that he performed as I'm already,
but I did not take the time to do that
due to baby. But that's okay. I will check it
out as soon as we get off here. Because I
definitely want to see that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, apparently they like first like quote unquote reunited. They
had a show in Alabama in April twenty twenty three,
so that was his first like kind of coming back
into performing and whatnot. And then later on they were like,
(03:20):
so we did a thing and here we are, which
is really cool. It's been it's been obviously, it's been
a while, so definitely excited to see him back. I
think I can't remember. I think I saw I got
to see Three Day's Grace a few years ago, but
(03:43):
I can't remember if Adam was there or not. I
genuinely can't.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how long they've been
bringing him on to do whatever he's been doing for
I guess the performance that went brasy on TikTok. I
don't know how long that's been going on. But it
definitely looks like he is fully back now, and I'm
definitely stoked about that. I'm actually looking up right now
to try and figure out when he left, because I
(04:13):
don't know exactly, but I know it was a while ago. Uh,
let's see if I can find this. You can go
on though, while I do some Wikipedia deep diving Wipedia.
It's usually accurate unless someone goes in there and just
(04:35):
is being a troll. Let me see. Okay, oh wait,
now that's not the right guy, is it. What's the
dude's name again? You said it's Adam right. I could
know this. This is just like stellar journalism right here, just.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Through podcast. This is yep, this is top tier reporting,
you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well see, I thought I knew who he was, and
it looks a little different, and I was like, oh am,
I stupid. I'm just wrong. I also don't want to
be completely wrong. I feel like not knowing is better
than being fully wrong. So that's I guess my take.
Excuse the burden.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean, I mean, Steve Harvey didn't get fully canceled
when he announced the wrong person's name at the what
was it the miss Was it missed Universe or was
it missed Uh? I think it was Miss USA or
something like that. And he was announcing the winner, and
(05:45):
I believe he said the wrong person's name and they
were like no, and it was a running joke for forever.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I was gonna say he didn't get canceled, but I'm
sure he got mercilessly roasted.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh yeah, big time got mercilessly roasted.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wait, oh I found it, Sorry to cut you off.
It was good twenty thirteen, so it looks like about
eleven years ago, which is crazy to think that it's
been that long because I was in high school in
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I was in eleventh grade. I graduated in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Same Actually I dropped out in eleventh grade. But yeah,
I would have graduated in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Life happens, it does. Graduating overrated it is.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I got a ged like pretty quickly, so it was
no big deal.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, hey, this is just wrong with that. At
least you got, you know, you got something out of it.
It's honestly completely going down a rabbit hole. There's like
this stigma around on whether people have degrees or not,
which I think for in some instances absolutely yes, one
thousand percent you need some sort of degree. But I
(07:08):
also feel like there's this like weird stigma with people
who who have a degree, like they sometimes and even
by accident, sometimes they treat people differently because they don't
have one. And I always always hated that I personally
have a degree, and I know people that are a
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thousand times smarter or have better skills than I do.
So it's not about the piece of paper you have,
it's the knowledge that you actually have exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, And there's so many ways to acquire
knowledge these days that don't require paying some institution a
ridiculous amount of money. So people are learning skills on
their own and not having to rely on some sort
of degree we out.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I really think, like if it's going to be if
you're gonna do like like an undergraduate degree, depending on
like how in depth you go, I think it shouldn't
cost quite as much as it does. There should be
obviously be a cost that you know you're working towards it.
And you know these colleges don't you know, they don't
(08:22):
run on in air, like they got to have some
sort of revenue coming in, right, But it also shouldn't
put me fifty thousand dollars in debt to want to
better myself. So it's like somewhere somewhere there's some sort
of middle ground we can meet at, right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right, you would think, But you know that's the that's
the whole game. They know people will pay it, so
they continue to charge it that.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then like especially like when I was coming up
or when I was growing up, they always like people
would kind of preach to you and be like, oh,
if you don't go get a degree, then whatever, you're
you're a bum and you're not going to do anything.
I know plenty of people without degrees that are you know, successful, happy,
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that have done a lot more with their lives than most.
So I think it just depends on your work ethic
and the things.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That you want to do in life exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And also just to clarify, I wasn't trying to shit
on like actually going and getting a degree, because it
is accomplishment that you should be proud of. But yeah,
I'm just definitely an advocate for people like going and
just like if you have the it's because it's not
an easy thing to like seek out the knowledge. Like
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it's kind of just like when someone is teaching it
to you and you have a curriculum, it's a lot
more structured and going and just like seeking out each
individual thing you're trying to learn as you're trying to learn.
It is a little bit more difficult of a learning process,
but for some people it works better. So I definitely
am an advocate for at least trying to teach yourself
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things if you can through YouTube and you know, whatever
you can find on the internet.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And just reading. I'm serious about things going to first, yeah,
I mean going to museums, learning about stuff, watching documentaries
about as long as they're not like you knows documentaries
and stuff like that, but like watching stuff about things
(10:32):
that you don't know about, Like that's how we learn. Yeah,
I've watched I used to watch, like kind of segueing
back into music, I used to watch documentaries about like
musicians or bands that I was familiar with, but not
I didn't have like all bunch of knowledge about, Like
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I wasn't like one thousand percent knowledgeable about right. So
I found that it made me like appreciate music a
little bit more in a weird way. Absolutely, just like
just hearing about like even like you know, the old
like hair metal bands from like the seventies and eighties,
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Like like learning about the stuff that they went through
and how how different the music scene was when they
were first starting out was definitely something that affected me
and gave me a better appreciation for music for what
it is.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Absolutely, yeah, no, And I love watching stuff like that too. Honestly, Like,
even if it's like an artist that I don't even like,
really care that much for, I still just like hearing
people's like stories and how they rose to where they
are now because it's it's you know, it gives you
a sense of like this is possible and this is
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something that you can do if you work for it.
So very motivational for me. I love that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, So following up with that a little bit, I'm curious,
what what local band do you think, like you would
want to see like a behind the music documentary type
thing about.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Uh like uh like local like level local or local
like they're from close to me sort of thing both. Yeah,
because I mean I just wanted to clarify because it's
obviously there's less to learn about bands that are you know,
have a less of a catalog and less of a history.
But you know, it's still interesting. That's actually it's a
(12:51):
good question. So I have to let's circle Let's circle
back to that in a second after I've had a
sec to think about it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, Well, I mean I can I can think of
like a smaller ish band, I mean most people and
if you know me at all, listeners, then you know
exactly what band I'm about to say.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I feel like I do.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Easily one thousand percent. I need a full on behind
the scenes documentary about the homies Fight from Within. I
just want a whole documentary about everything and just seeing
from the beginning, like like a collage of like people
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moshing and all that give me, give me all the things.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, no, that would be cool because they definitely have
you know, they have more of a history than a
lot of I would say, like local bands, they've been
around long enough to actually, you know, put a good
little story together. So I would definitely watch that. Those
dudes are killers. So I actually did think of my
answer though while you were talking, and I will have
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to go with my good friends in Dying Arms because
they're they're both they're more of a regional band as well,
just like Fight from Within, but they are they've been
around for fuck I want to say almost fifteen years,
might be fifteen years, and they've just been like consistently
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irrelevant somehow, no matter what has changed, and they've gone
through a lot of lineup changes and variations in their sound,
and you know, times when they've been like heavily touring
and times when they haven't been touring at all, and
you know, it's just I think that would be a
very interesting story.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So yeah, I have to agree with you. And for
those of you who have not given it a chance already,
by the time this episode comes out, Dark Day said
buy in Dine Arms will have been out for a
little bit, so make sure you go on Spotify or
(15:06):
wherever you get music and check that out. Because as
of course, you guys know hashtag support the homies over here.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah I'm straight. Yeah, no, I was actually going to
bring that up if you didn't follow me up with it,
but yes, no, I am actually lucky enough to have
heard all of these songs already because Oriyan has been
a really close friend for a decade almost or over
a decade. Damn, I hate time. Time is weird, but
(15:36):
but yeah, anyway, you know, we talked pretty regularly, so
he's He's shown me these songs in different stages over time,
and I'm just really excited for them all to be
coming out as a full body of work. So I
hope people go listen to it. It's really fucking good.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm certainly excited to hear it myself. At the time
of recording, it's not out, yeah, but it'll be out tomorrow.
Like I've ober fourth so excited to hear.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That when the episode is out right, so we'll be good.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm also kind of like mentioning another release that I'm
really excited for. It's very bittersweet and I'm probably gonna cry,
but the last Dead Switch release comes out tomorrow, I believe.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, that's one of the ones I was going to
bring up as well.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Damn if I'm not gonna be sad when when it's out,
because it's gonna be I already know it's gonna be
bangers after bangers and then we get nothing else after that,
and I'm like, ah.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Why yeah, No, It's it's funny because I have I've
only ever seen them once, but I have a very
specific like attachment to that band, just because they played
on the very first date of our very first tour back.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
In twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and they headlined the West Virginia date and it
was actually with their old vocalist Cory, who now does
vocals for Rundown. So if you like hardcore, go check
out Rundown as well. They just put out I think
a three or four song release that's really killer. So
go check that out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
A couple of the songs on it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, no, that that's they're they're awesome. I like all
the guys in those in that band a lot. Actually,
I don't think I know one of them if I'm
not mistaken, But anyway, they're sick. Go check them out.
But yeah, we got to play the very first date
of our very first tour with Dead Switch. So it's
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a bummer to see them, you know, calling it quits,
But it's cool to have been some small part of
the legacy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, definitely. I remember the first time I ever saw them.
It was at and this is some some lore, it
was at Champion Brewery at it was an Alpha zero
event here in Virginia and Charlottesville. And if you're a
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real one, you already know that show was a lot
of fun. It was you know, things have happened, but
you know, we're not going to dwell on the negative.
But getting to see Dead Switch perform was really cool.
And I've seen them two other times. I saw them
two other times after that. I saw them at a
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little place in Winchester, Virginia, called Granny's. Shout out Granny's.
You guys are from Virginia and you've been to Granny's,
make sure you drop a mike and a comment in
the comscuse me something in the comments, letting us know
that you've been to you that's some nice little mom
and pop type place. Super nice place, great people, good service.
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I haven't been back there in a little bit. Might
have to change that. But and the other time, the
only other time I've seen that switch was at chaos
Fest again, shout out fory, we love you, homie.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Hey, yeah, did you need to go.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To Chaos Fest at all?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I wish it looked like it was awesome. But where
was that. I was in Virginia, right, Yeah, it was
in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It was at Granny's and it was outside, so they
did like you could go inside to like to go
and you know, inside to get beer and sit down
if you wanted to. It was it was hot that day.
But I got footage of almost all the bands, so
(20:01):
on my TikTok go follow me.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Mhm, shameless plug.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Absolute But no, it was a good time. It was
hella homies there. I got to see you had the
Betrayr again. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah. I love those guys. We got the We've gotten
to play with them, I think twice now if I'm
not mistaken. But uh, I also got to shoot for
them like two months ago.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I got to shoot them at Auto Bar
with a Rose Funeral and uh freakaing who else was
it Rose Funeral and someone viscroll discord. It was a
crazy show.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That was definitely a cool time. Speaking of shooting photos,
another shameless plug, go follow my foot to Instagram at
Mernko Media which if you can't spell that, it is
s M Sorry I can't spell it m A s
e n Ko Media. I am dyslexic. Apologies.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
You heard it here, Folks, Go support the homies. You
know the thrill we got. We got some very talented folks.
Follow all of our our co hosts various escapades. Make
sure you go follow Two Sides of Me, Go follow Varia,
Go follow Ruby on TikTok, follow all of their various
(21:39):
escapades and things to follow him and all of his bands, his.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Bands A yeah, I also play in a band. If
you don't know, it's called for fear itself. Anyway, let's
stop plugging and get.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Back shameless plugs.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There is another like last release and you know, disbandment
that I wanted to talk about with Blood of the Martyrs,
who has been like at least doing small tours from
my knowledge since I was like fifteen, because I saw
them when I had to be like fifteen or sixteen
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that I believe sonar in Baltimore, and I've had one
of their t shirts with a kool Aid man on
it ever since. And they were one of those bands
that I saw when I was a teenager and I
was like, oh, I want to do this, so shouts
out to them. I don't remember what the name of
their last release is actually right at this time, but
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go check that out when it comes out again, Blood
of the Martyrs. They've been around for quite a while.
And another band calling it quits, and I get it
because it's expensive to keep doing Honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I got the release pulled up. It's called Here at
the End of all Things, and it'll be out October
thirty first, very fitting, I dig it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But again, that's that good journalism right there, because I
should have had this pulled up before I brought it
up and it should have been in my notes actually,
But you know, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We're making it work, we're making it through it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'm still learning. I'm new to this, so it's.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
ALOI it's all good. We're having a great time. Yeah,
it really is really sucks when when bands fall apart
or call it quits or just can't like you know,
like you said, being in abandon is pretty expensive. And
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you know, first pan obviously from being in for Fear itself,
what do you feel like is the most expensive thing?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Music videos and recording fair I mean, and that's also
hard because like I don't have to buy a lot
of gear because I'm a singer, so gear also there's
a ton of just like massive expenses. Luckily, with like
the gear side of things, it's usually a one time
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expense unless you're trying to upgrade down the line once
you've you know, gotten a little bit bigger or anything
like that. But stuff like music videos and just getting
your your music mixed and mastered is going to be
just a constant. So one thing I would always always
advise is to if you can get someone in your
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band that does one or both of those things, that's
you know, that's gonna be hard to come by. But
if you can get someone in your band that does,
you know, good audio production, and then someone else that
does music videos, you're saving a ton the money right there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, there's a lot of bands, a lot of people
do stuff in the house, like you mentioned obviously, production stuff,
music videos, merch designs.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that you can do
to elevate what your band is able to do without
spending as much money. So, like Jade just pointed out,
doing learning how to do graphic design, even if it's
not to the degree of being able to do like
merch designs yet, because unless you're doing something very simple,
it can be there's a little bit of like a
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I don't know, it's it's daunting for me, I guess
because I'm like, oh, we're putting in the money to
print this. If I made the design not look good,
this is gonna look like, you know, look like a button,
I'm gonna get blamed for it. So maybe there's just
a layer of anxiety attached to it. But learning like
any sort of graphic design, videography, photography, sound engineering, anything
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like that that isn't just your instrument or your normal
duty as part of your band will definitely elevate what
you're able to do without having to spend as much money.
So I would always always advise at least trying to
do one of those things.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yep, you are exactly right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I'm doing too many things right now. So I mean,
I'm doing photography, I'll do graphic design for the band
and for other bands, and I do the management for
our band. I have previously managed other bands. It's you know,
it's a lot of work, but if you love it,
it's it doesn't feel so much like work.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, that's it's kind of how I feel, kind of
like doing this, Like it doesn't it doesn't really feel
like work, per sae. Like obviously we're putting work into it,
but it's like, especially when it's just all of us
just hanging out and chilling, it just it doesn't feel
like work. It feels like I'm just hanging out with
the homies and we just happen to be talking about
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music and someone press record before we started.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Talking, right, exactly, That's what it should be, because I mean,
if it's just like I don't know, too scripted to
just like every single thing is a bullet point where
you have to stay on topic constantly, you know, and
wants to listen to that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So, yeah, we got too many, too many rabbit holes
to go down.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Too much ADHD, too much ADHD.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
No, I lied, I take that back. You can never
have too much AVHD.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, anyway, I also had let me. I mean, I
know we pick usually two more like hard rocking metal stuff,
but one of my favorite thing in the bounce composure
is releasing it out very soon. The Spirit. Yeah, they
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they've been around for quite a while, but they disbanded,
I want to say, in like twenty seventeen or eighteen,
and I got to see one of their last shows
and it was just, you know, one of the best
times of my life because I know every single song
we have ever put out sort of obsession level with
(28:26):
this band. So yeah, I'm just it comes out in
three hours, that comes out at midnight. So I was
just I think it either comes out this Friday or
next Friday. And that's something I should know with how
much I like this band. But I got I got
dad brain, I have I get yelled at by a
(28:46):
baby all day and thoughts just kind of go in
and fly out the other end. So anyway, yes, Balance
Composure with You in Spirit comes out at midnight as
well if you're in more of like a indie rock
or like post grunge sort of sound. They've been labeled
a lot of different things over the years, but either way,
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give them a give them a listen.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, when MA get off of here, send me the link.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'll check it out definitely. Will. Do you have Spotify,
I'll just send it right now. Sorry, I will send
that to you now before I forget. But uh, but yeah,
so there's a there's a few singles out from that already.
But and I've been I've been jamming them pretty heavily,
(29:34):
so I'm pretty excited for that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to check it out.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let me see. I think that might be the end
of what I had other than just my like like
I wrote down just to talk about our recent tour
because I figured I should try to talk about the
band and push that a little bit. But we recently
did a tour with Wilt Wither and float Omen, who
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both are incredible and you definitely need to check out
both of them if you haven't. Will Wither put out
a release called The Yellow Wallpaper. I want to say
a few months ago. It's been it's pretty recent. And
then float Omen has a release they just came out
with as well, and it's I'm coming up with the
(30:26):
single name above the waves. But hold on, we are
going to pull this right now. What is it called?
It's the Degradation of Life. Sorry, they said it every
night on tour, so I should be able to remember.
But again, dad brain just thoughts, just don't get trapped
in this, in this hollow shell of a head. So
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again the float Omen the Degradation of Life and what
weather is the Yellow Wallpaper? I would highly recommend both
of those releases. They are all incredible people and we
had a great time on tour with them.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I'm glad that tour went well. Anything particularly interesting happened,
any like craziness in the pits.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Or anything, nothing too crazy that I'm thinking of off
the top of my head. We did get to play
with h our friends in Varia and I on stage,
and even now am like, oh am I saying their
name right, because for some reason in my brain, I
just like I can never remember like how you say it,
(31:32):
but it's very it right, So I'm I'm not messing
it up, and I didn't mess it up the first time.
I was just like, oh did I mess it up?
So and on stage in Richmond, I was like, oh,
very it right, my badly, and then the song just started.
And it probably seems like I was trying to diss them,
(31:53):
but it's not like that I love them.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm just yeah, I I have to really like watch
sometimes because I'm really bad about remembering people's Like people
probably think I just don't care, and like, no, I
swear I care. I just there's a lot going on
up here.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
So and there's just like eighty there's like so many bands,
Like there's like eighty bajillion bands in the world and
there's like eighty million bands that I enjoy and want
to support, and not like it's not like.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Every band sounds the same thing or like every band
looks alike. It's just there's just a lot of them,
which I'm glad because that gives me more music to enjoy.
And you know, more of my friends are out there
making art which makes them happy, which I'm cool with.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But also, Jesus, it is a crazy amount of names
to remember. Absolutely, yeah, I know, and even and this
tour wasn't very long for us, but I did not
remember everyone's name until the very end of it when
I was making sure that I like followed everyone on
Instagram and stuff like that. So it's hard, especially when
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you're you know, you're running on a gas station food.
My brain works even less well during those sorts of circumstances. So,
I mean it's the ADHD paired with just you know
what is probably a decent level of autism. Yeah, it
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just sometimes when brain just don't be braining, it would
be like that it happens, and then other times it does.
So that's the confusing part.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But yep, I can relate what is like your uh,
your go to like for food. I know you said
like gas station stuff, Like what's your like thing that
you have to whenever you are on the road.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
For me, it's definitely whatever is like regional, like whatever
regional like fast food or you know, something like that
that we can get is always my go to. Like
when we go a little bit down south, it starts
being cookout immediately, Like as soon as we hit Virginia,
it's like, all right, we're going to cookout. And if
we don't get a cookout I'm fighting somebody because I
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need a cookout style burger. It's it's it just has
to happen, and it's so cheap and it's so good.
It's so much better than all of the other fast
food and it's so much cheaper. It just doesn't make
any sense. So that that's what happens there. And you
go out more like Midwest and over towards like I
think we were in like Texas or something, when you
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start getting like Jack in the Box. I had to
try Jack in the box and it was definitely cool.
That's more of like a Jack in the box is strange.
I don't know if you ever had it, but it's
like you have not. They have a like they have
everything for some reason. They have like they have burgers
and shit, but they also have like egg rolls, and
(35:08):
it's just like why do you have? I think, and
I think that I have like one like semi pseudo
Chinese like Entree. It's like probably like Low Maine with
like bride Chicken or something ridiculous like that. But I
didn't even dare to venture to try that. But you know,
(35:30):
they have like they have burgers and they have like
mini tacos. And regular tacos, and it's just like y'all
are doing I think too much, uh, and all of
it is fine, you know, but none of it is
like exceptional. So I think that's their problem is they're
just doing too many things.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I kind of feel that way about sheets sometimes, like
I love sheets food, but like some of this stuff,
I'm just like that this is unnecessary, Like why is this?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean obviously, like the the ones that go
without mentioning are like sheets and wah wah. Like every
touring musician is, like, you know, from at least if
they're from this general region, is familiar with those and
looks at them as a godsend. But also what I
didn't remember to mention until now is BUCkies, which is
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like the most tour stop because you can actually get
like good, like a delicious pulled pork sandwich that's just
sitting there ready for you on the little heated pad
because they I don't know, they probably cycle them every
hour or something. Because Bucky's like quality with everything is
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just kind of over the top almost where it's like
the bathrooms are so clean that it's like you would
you would feel safe eating in there, which I wouldn't do,
but like you would, you would feel okay doing it
if you had to for some reason. And like the
BUCkies when you go down the like drink aisles and
(37:06):
the snack aisles and everything, everything is like perfectly facing
forward and straight at all times, and it just doesn't
make any sense. Like it's like those little like invisible gremlins,
like going and straightening all the shelves behind people. It's
it's wild.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I've never been to a BUCkies. I would love to go.
I'm hoping to get to go to one soon, but
I have never actually been to a BUCkies. I hear
about it all.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The time from I'm sure you do every from.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Every band ever one as soon as they go on
tour and there's a BUCkies and your brother like, oh,
we gotta go to BUCkies.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's like it's the mecca. It's like a gas station
Walmart that has delicious food and also like t shirts
and neck pillows and all kinds of stuff with a
cute little beer on it. My shout out to my
new guitarist Kevin, who also plays in a band called
Problem Solver. My my bassist also does shouts out Problem Solver,
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but he got to not only experience his first little
run of shows on this tour, but also I got
to experience BUCkies for the first time and walked out
of there with a beaver beanie and a beaver adorned
neck pillow, and it was it was just cool to
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see because I was just like, yeah, I got to
I got to help provide this like experience. So it
was cool. Man. I like, I just like being part
of stuff like that. That's why we do it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
That's awesome. I'm glad he got to have that experience.
I'll catch up.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
One day now. You got to when you ever, whenever
you get a chance. So you have to definitely check
out a BUCkies because it's a it'll change your world,
it really will.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
For sure to make a trip. And speaking of making
trips and such, before we roll up out of here,
I'm curious, are you going to any shows over the
next few weeks?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Right now? Honestly, I'm pretty much only going to stuff
that I am like working shooting photos because money is tight.
But hopefully that changes soon I'm able to afford to
go out and enjoy other things where I'm not also working.
Because it's like we mentioned earlier when because i love
shooting photos, so it doesn't really feel like work. But
(39:41):
it's at the same time, like I have to, like,
you know, just concentrate on what I'm doing, and my
earplugs are in so I'm not hearing as well versus
like I'll usually stand towards the back and maybe not
where about your plugs because I don't need them as
much as I'm not directly in front of the pas
when I'm sure shoting and I'm like right in front
of the pia's and music's blasting, It's just I'm not
(40:05):
even really fully paying attention to what's like being played.
I'm just I'm only using my eyes at that point,
if that makes any sense, because I'm so focused on
trying to get shots, so I don't get to fully
enjoy the music. So I like being able to also
go and you know, watch shows where I'm not shooting
(40:26):
photos so I can just actually experience it normally.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's fair. I think the next show that I'm going
to is over six. I'm going to be going to
see What Lies Below and the homies Two Sides of
Me and and the Herd. They're going to be playing
(40:53):
at Lounge at Ledo if I'm that correctly. I hope
that I am on Sunday. Shout out Spin Kicker Booking
for putting it together.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Where is that it's Virginia, I would assume too.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's like in Lynchburg, So
I know you're not from Lynchburg or from the area,
but it's let's say, like thirty ish minutes away from
my house, so it's not like too far away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I wish we lived closer so we could go to
some of the same shows. That would be dope, it'll
happen soon enough.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, and there's a car.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
So I can go out of state more. I don't
have a vehicle, so I gotcha.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, it's this is my first show in a few months,
so it's it's been a little while. But finding out
that there was a show like less than an hour
away from my house, I was like, I gotta go
so and plus the homie is gonna be there, so
come on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Oh well, Lies Below and Two Sides of Me are
both incredible and Elijah is the homie, so gotta go support.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Absolutely, And speaking of some more homies, October twenty six
is going to be Medicorps Massacre in Roanoke at the
Spawn Kurt, we got Dying Earth, Seasons, Freedom from the Shadows,
and to Be a King. I have never been to
this venue, but it's in Ronoak, which is about an
(42:32):
hour or so away from where I live, so should
be a fun time. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
This will second or third time I've seen Seasons, and
this will be the actually the first time that I've
seen Dying Oath like in in concert. And fun fact,
for those of you who have been longtime fans, Dying
Oath was one of the first on paper interviews we
(43:03):
ever did. That's on our really cringy website that I
need to fix. But shout out Mindy and the Dying
Oath crew for for being homies and being dope.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh that's awesome. I've heard of all of these bands
a lot of times that I've never gotten to see them.
I'm definitely familiar with Seasons, and I saw recently it
looked like their show at another Round did pretty well.
I saw a good amount of pictures from it.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
So yeah, Seasons had they had a big announcement. I
believe they're going to be playing with uh Oh my gosh,
is it Miss May?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I think, oh, that's awesome, that's huge.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah, I'm super excited for them. That's really that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah no, I was gonna say pretty I'm pretty sure
I brought this up on our last episode. But the
first like actual mash that I ever got into is
Miss May. I had warped tour in like twenty eleven.
I think nice.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I think my first like on purpose was it was
at what I call my birthday show, and it was
a local show at Champion Brewery and it was band
called in. If you're you're a local to Virginia, then
(44:34):
you already know The The Men Configuration ri Ip another
band gone way too soon, But it's okay because the
homie Corey is out here doing amazing things. But uh,
for that show, it was The The Men Configuration Disposed
Dead Era, Gradual Slip and Brain Cell and it was
(44:57):
cold and it was still fun any way. I got
hit in the face by accident, and shout out Ford
for checking on me. It was a fun time though.
And then I accidentally got into a pit at Motionless
and White at Blue Ridge Rockfest, and because I wasn't
really paying attention and then I just kind of got
(45:19):
like sucking and I was like, well, gosh, what's happening?
Scared and then I got over it very quickly.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
See, yeah, that was probably like a push pit, so
that can be scary.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, And it was like, like I said, I wasn't
really I was mostly focused on like watching the show,
so I wasn't like paying attention per se, So which
is my own fault and I should have known better.
But like my friends like like kind of yanked me
back and we're like no. I was like, guys, help,
I don't know what I'm doing helping. Well, that was
like my one of my first like official shows because
(45:57):
I think that same time I also saw Trivium that day,
I saw Knocked Loose that day, and so it was
it was a great day and it really kind of
solidified me wanting to be a part of the scene.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's awesome. I love here and stuff like that, and
Knocked Loose will do that to you, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean, shoot, I think I think everyone's gotten gotten
injured in some way, shape or form at a Knock
Loose bid.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
See. The only reason I haven't is because the only
time I saw them, I was like way in the
back and I was already a little tipsy by the
time they came on, so I was I was, you know,
I wanted to go ma wash, but I was like, oh,
I know, I'm gonna get my fucking this is not
going to be good. So yeah, I didn't do that.
(46:54):
But instead I danced on people very annoyingly, and some
like some white girls that definitely found them on TikTok
or some shit like got really annoyed and I was like, okay,
go in front of me then, so I'm not jiggling
my butt on you because I'm gonna jigg out my butt.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Watch out when you go to shows, folks, you might
might get danced.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
On by tim Yeah. I mean watch that in general,
because like, if you're going to shows, people might be
having fun. So uh maybe that shouts out of those girls.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I mean there's like a whole I saw before before
we wrap this up. I saw this video as a
while ago. It's like like younger generations like finding knocked loosing,
like going to their shows for the first time and
all that. And I'm kind of in that weird place
of like I haven't been like a lifelong fan or anything,
(47:55):
but I'm familiar with them and I know them and
I know the classics, and so I would consider myself
a band. So it's interesting seeing like that push and
pull between the people who have liked Knocked Loose since
they were like fifteen years old and the people that
are like in their twenties that are just finding them
(48:15):
and are like slowly figuring out that they enjoy that
kind of music. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
No, it's super interesting to see. And myself, I feel like,
you know, I sound like a poser because I only
got into them, like like I got kind of into
them when they had out Another Shade of Blue, Like
I was like into the singles, but I wasn't like,
oh this is my shit, I'm going to see them.
(48:42):
I'm fucking I know the full album. I'm buying their
merch But then when they came out with a Tear
in the Fabric of Life, that ep like really sold me,
and I was like, Okay, no, this band is like
this shit and I love this. So I'm more of
a real relatively newer, like actual fan. But I also
(49:04):
noted the culture and I've grown up in the culture,
so that's the I feel like the distinction there and
a lot of the people that are getting into them
now are not familiar with the like the heavy music
culture at all, but specifically the hardcore culture, because the
hardcore culture is it's it takes a little getting used
to when you're actually experiencing it because it doesn't get
(49:28):
quite as like crowdkillie at their like big shows now,
at least from what I saw when I saw them,
but like you know, in their I wouldn't say their
glory days, but like in the days when they were
in smaller venues where there's more of those like crowd
killer types of people, it's something you got to watch
(49:49):
out for. So I've definitely seen a lot of just
like the people that have gotten too knock loose through TikTok,
going to like smaller hardcore show was like not knowing
what's happening. Yeah, more so online than in person, but
I've also seen it in person, and it's it's you know,
(50:10):
I get it. Like like I said, it's hard to
get used to. It's uh, when someone just comes up
and like punches you, you're probably gonna be explaining.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I mean it took me a little bit because I
didn't I started going to shows and getting into that
particular genre or section of metal music. So like it
took me a little bit to get to understand it
as well. So like I sympathize with folks, but I'm
also like, you know, like you kind of it's you
(50:42):
have to respect the danger that comes with it, and
you have to respect the culture. And you know, if
you're not gonna, you know, and in the least gatekeeping
way possible, if you're not gonna take it seriously and
actually be respectful of it, then just just don't find
find different stuff to listen who or find different shows
to go to. It's like if you're gonna you know,
(51:04):
you're gonna go to a hardcourse show and then be
mad because you got hit, Like it's kind of silly,
but you know that's kind of my take on it.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean in most instances, like if
you takes the time to go a few times and
figure out the room, you'll figure out where the spots
you can stand are where you won't get hit. But
also I don't want to piss off the hardcore crowd
because they would be very offended by calling it a
(51:31):
part of metal because it's considered uh, it's it's subgenre
of punk is where it came from. Even though it's
a lot heavier than like the roots of hardcore punk,
that's that's still where it came from. So yeah, before
the comments are like, oh but hardcore is not metal,
we know, we know, I swear.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oka cancels please.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It's funny though, how adjacent it is and how many
like kinds of metal are literally just offshoots of hardcore,
because I mean, the core in metalcore and death core
comes from being hardcore inspired, so it all it comes
from its branches of the same tree to an extent,
but there's definitely distinctions between them.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, there are bands that are doing a lot to
kind of come combine different styles and different bits and
pieces like of death core and hardcore and even like
a little like a little bit of metal core like
has Has that. I always described it as kind of
that bite to it, the extra like the actual little
(52:49):
bass in their voice or the extra piece during a
breakdown or whatever it is that they're adding to make
the difference, right. I definitely can appreciate when bands are
doing that kind of stuff. Make for some good jams
for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
No, Yeah, I love to see the genre blending and
using different aspects of like what is kind of regarded
as being a staple point of like one specific subgenre
I And I also like to see just the fact
that like these all these subgenres have gone through I
(53:31):
guess what is usually referred to as waves, where there's
like the first wave of like say, metal core, is
so much different than what you would call maybe like
the third or fourth wave or wherever we are now.
And it's just it's cool to see how music progresses
over even just like the time that I've been alive,
(53:52):
because when I was a kid, like the metal core
quote unquote that was popular. It was it's a good
blend of metal core and post hardcore honestly for a
lot of it, but like it was like the crab core,
like you know, asking Alexandria, Attack, Attack and all of
that sort of stuff. And right now what's popular is
actually like the wave of metalcore and death core that
(54:16):
came out like all kind of around that time, but
right kind of before that, just like the more just
like metallic hardcore metal core, like actually very hardcore influenced
metal core, and then like og just MySpace style deathcore,
like those are two of the types of music I've
(54:37):
noticed really gaining traction again in our scene, and it's
just cool to see because you didn't really hear a
lot of bands that sounded like either of those sounds
for a while.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah. The revival stuff just sounding really dope out there,
and I'm excited to see where where else it can go.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, not me too, Yeah, shouts out Restricted. They're like
MySpace style deathcore band my homie Gino does vocals for,
So give them a listen as well. They have I
believe a three song EP out on all streaming platforms.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
I will definitely give them. Give them a listen here
in a minute. Well, yeah, I think it might be
down all e quiz for the night, brother, what do
you think?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, that sounds good. I have definitely been kind of
just yapping on and on side.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
That's nothing wrong with a little little yapping every now
and then. Good to get to kind of catch up
and talk about different things. So I've definitely enjoyed sitting
down and catching up with you. It's been fun listeners.
You guys know how we get down of here. You know,
we always sport the homies and we're going to support
our co hosts as well, so make sure that you
(56:01):
go and support Tim's band for Fear Itself. Go like
our other co hosts bands and projects as well, go
to shows when they have them, by merch when they
have it. You guys know the drill. Yeah, it's been
great dude likewise, and we will catch you guys next time.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
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