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July 15, 2025 • 81 mins
This video covers the disappearance of Stacy Arras in Yosemite National Park, California.

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, there are folks. Today we're going to cover another
case that is often recommended to me. Many of you
are probably familiar with it in some way, and that
is the case of Stacy Airis, who disappeared in Yosemite
National Park back in nineteen eighty one. And while the
case is well known among people with an interest in
missing persons cases, there are relatively few details out there

(00:40):
about the incident and the investigation that took place thereafter.
So first I'll lay the groundwork of the case and
explain everything that I could dig up about what happened before, during,
and after the disappearance. But perhaps most importantly, I'm going
to show you what this location looks like in Yosemite,
so relatively high elevation area known as the Sunrise Lakes,

(01:03):
and from there we'll see if we can come to
any reasonable theories about what happened to Stacy Airis. Well,
this case is a bit of a head scratcher. Once
we get to the end, I think you will probably
agree that there are some explanations for this case. I
mainly say that because for a long time this incident
has been one that people have deemed unexplainable or paranormal

(01:24):
or whatever. It's a keystone case in the Missing four
to one one archives, so that should tell you something. Anyway,
enough of the preamble, let's get into the events that
took place on July seventeenth, nineteen eighty one. But real quick,
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this deal while it's out there. Stacy Ann Airis was

(03:36):
fourteen years old in July of nineteen eighty one, the
daughter of George and Carol Airis. She also had three siblings, Sandra, George,
and Stephanie. At the time, Stacy and her family lived
in Saratoga, California, just south of San Francisco. That July,
Stacy and her father, George, had plans to go on
a four day horseback riding trip through the High Sierra

(03:59):
camps in Yosemite National Park. Outdoor adventures were not new
to Stacy, as her mother would later tell reporters that
she regularly would go on summer hikes every year. Besides this,
it was reported that Stacy was having some problems at
home and at school. There are no specific details about
why this was occurring, but it's possible that the trip

(04:20):
was meant to mend things between Stacy and her father. Still,
that is entirely speculation. So Stacy and her father, George,
made the roughly one hundred and seventy five mile trip
to Yosemite. The first day of the horseback trip was
July seventeenth, and the meetup location was Tuolumie Meadows in
the eastern half of the park. There, George and Stacy

(04:43):
met up with the rest of their group, which consisted
of ten people, though some sources say twenty, and a
lead wrangler by the name of Chris Grimes. The last
picture of Stacy would be taken on this day, showing
her atop a horse ready to set out on their journey.
She wears a timid smile and her eyes are swallowed
up by the shadow from her hat. Undoubtedly nobody ever

(05:06):
expected or anticipated the events that would follow. From the meadows,

(05:30):
they sat out on the John Muir Trail, which takes
you up high into the granite filled mountains. By three PM,
they had made it up to roughly ninety six hundred
feet in elevation and stopped for lunch at the Upper
Cathedral Lake, roughly four and a half miles from where
they started. After their brief respite, they continued on their

(05:50):
journey for another six miles or so through a mountain
pass until they came to their first destination, the Sunrise
High Sierra Camp. The Sunrise High Sierra Camp consists of
a number of tent cabins, which provide visitors with more
amenities than simply pitching your average tent on the ground.
It's basically a cabin with canvas walls. This camp sits

(06:13):
at roughly ninety three hundred feet in elevation. Once Stacy
and her father arrived, they entered their cabin and unpacked.
At some point, Stacy must have mentioned to her father
that she was missing her boyfriend back in Saratoga. She
then took a quick shower before telling her dad that
she wanted to go and stretch her legs after spending
the entire day sitting in a saddle. As she walked

(06:36):
out of the cabin, George noticed that his daughter was
wearing her flip flops, so he told her to change
into her hiking boots instead, which she did. When Stacy
left the cabin, she was wearing shorts, a T shirt,
and a windbreaker. She also took a small Olympus camera,
which she was using to document her trip in some
way or another. She would end up going on this

(06:58):
journey with a man named Jerry Old Stuart Gerald was
somewhere in his seventies. Some sources say seventy and some
say seventy seven. All indications are that they really didn't
know each other all that well and likely met while
on this trip. It's assumed that George was okay with
his presence, but we really don't know that either. Moving on,

(07:20):
Stacy wanted to get some good pictures of the nearby
Sunrise Lakes, so she started asking people for directions. Eventually,
wrangler Chris Grimes set them on the correct path, so
Stacy left the camp with her chaperone, Gerald, and the
two began heading off towards the Sunrise Lakes. The hike
to the lakes is a pretty easy mile and a

(07:41):
half around a ridge with minimal elevation change. The duo
had been hiking a short while, reportedly about twenty minutes,
when Gerald became winded and needed to stop. Stacy told
him that she was going to continue on towards the
lakes and take her pictures.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
She then left on her own.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Back at camp, Chris Grimes was tending to his horses
in a corral When he looked towards the ridge, he
reportedly saw Stacy standing on a rock and gazing into
the distance. It is possible he was the last person
to see her alive. Mister Grimes went back to work
in the corral, never imagining that anything would go wrong.

(08:21):
Gerald Stuart, when he was done catching his breath, continued
on down the trail towards the Sunrise Lakes, expecting to
encounter Stacy at some point. Instead, he eventually ran into
another group of three hikers. He asked them if they
had passed Stacy on their way up. They said they hadn't.
It was likely this point when Gerald realized something might

(08:43):
be wrong. Of course, it must have also crossed his
mind that Stacy left the trail at some point to
go photograph one of the lakes, as you really have
to leave the trail to get up close to the
lakes or get a better vantage point on them. What
actions Gerald took to find Stacy after running into the
hikers is unknown, but he eventually made his way back

(09:04):
to camp to report to Stacy's father that she was missing.
Staff from the Sunrise High Sierra Camp were the first
to get out there and start searching. This makes sense,
as the situation was still developing. Stacy could have just
decided to walk around one of the lakes, so they
went out looking for but of course that was unsuccessful.

(09:25):
Once they realized that Stacy was truly missing, they decided
to get park rangers involved in the search. The official
search began on July eighteenth, with many park personnel professionals
from nearby cities and counties and volunteers. Well over one
hundred people were involved in the search on certain days.
In one example, there were eighty people walking around on foot,

(09:48):
eight dog teams, and three helicopters. The National Guard brought
in a one hundred and thirty member Sierra Madre Search
and Rescue team. The search focused on the area around
the Sunrise Sierra Camp and the Sunrise Lakes. Searchers reportedly
scoured a five mile area using grid patterns. The lakes
in the area were searched by rangers in the event

(10:10):
that Stacey fell in and drowned. Other teams used ropes
to repel down rock faces or climb up them. The
entire area was described by some people as a war
zone because of all the personnel and helicopters flying overhead.
When it comes to the terrain, they told reporters that
its barren except for the lakes, and strewn with giant

(10:31):
granite boulders and poked with steep ravines. Nighttime temperatures, even
in the summer, were near freezing still, park rangers remained
along the trail at night in case Stacey were to
turn up. On July twentieth, the use of helicopters was
scaled back as search coordinators felt that most of the
area that would be coverable by air had already been

(10:53):
completed over the prior few days. From that point, ground
searchers became the main focus. On July twenty twenty second,
almost a week into the search, operations in general began
to be scaled back. Up to this point, nothing had
been found at all. The Park Services Linda Abbott called
the situation unusual, saying we usually find some trace. She

(11:16):
added that there are many nooks and crannies and ravines
in that area that it's impossible to look everywhere. If
we haven't found any trace by dark, we'll be forced
to reduce the search to just a few men looking
on a casual basis. On July twenty sixth, the search
for Stacy Airis was officially called off. At this point,

(11:36):
there was no reason to believe that Stacy could be
lost and still alive. Park ranger Tom Habocker stated, it's
just like she vanished. There are no tracks or no clues.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's a complete mystery.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Some searchers tried to explain the outcome by saying that
there were countless places where someone could slip and fall
into a crevasse, or if she was injured, she could
have crawled under a ledge or into a hollow. Besides that,
canine handlers said that the lack of typical summer thunderstorms
may have hampered the search dogs, as conditions throughout were

(12:08):
always dry and dusty, and dogs were unable to pick
up a scent. In total, over eight thousand man hours
were expended on the search for Stacy, and over fifty
hours in helicopter time. The cost was somewhere between fifty
and one hundred thousand dollars. It was a huge search
and effort, one of the largest in the history of

(12:29):
the park. Stacy's mother, Carol said of the search, the
tough part is not knowing. You would have thought that
some trace of her would have shown up, perhaps her
faded blue blouse, a windbreaker at least something. Searchers felt
much the same about the outcome, saying we didn't even
find a gum wrapper, perhaps referencing the fact that Stacy

(12:51):
was known to possibly be carrying chewing gum and also cigarettes.
The eighties were a different time. With no clues being
found in the search for Stacy, newspapers started to report
some rumors of foul play. One was of an unkempt
hiker being seen in the area where Stacy disappeared. Unfortunately,
no information about him is known to the public. Other

(13:14):
reports indicated that Stacy was having some family and school problems,
and since she was missing her boyfriend, that maybe she
had hiked out to the Tioga Pass road and hitchhiked
back to Saratoga, or maybe she attempted to do that
but got a ride from a very bad person. Stacy's mother, Carol,
seemed to shoot down this speculation, however, saying that Stacy

(13:36):
had many friends but no boyfriend, which she was missing
that much. The park spokeswoman also had something to say
regarding Stacy just walking off. She pointed to the fact
that Stacy initially tried to leave her cabin wearing flip flops.
To her, that meant that Stacy certainly did not intend
to go on a lengthy hike or attempt to run away.

(13:57):
On another angle, investigators made a good effort to find
possible witnesses. They checked anyone who had a wilderness permit,
which backpackers are required to have in order to camp
in the back country. They attempted to contact any people
who would have been in the area when Stacy vanished.
It's unknown if this attempt generated any leeds, but one

(14:17):
newspaper indicated that five hundred were interviewed relating to the case.
Other reports came in of Stacy being seen in Colorado, Nevada,
and Oregon. None of these seemed to lead to anything,
and sightings are typical in any missing person's case, as
there are plenty of people across the country who could
have been mistaken as Stacy. One of the figures who

(14:39):
has often talked about as a suspect is, of course
Gerald Stuart, a man in his seventies who accompanied Stacy
on the first part of their hike. Since he was
the one to be with Stacy last, it is pretty
common for people to see that individual as a suspect.
It probably doesn't help that we barely know anything about
Gerald or how well he knew Georg Stacy. When it

(15:01):
comes to how they met. The most detail I've seen
is a single newspaper that says she was last seen
by a seventy seven year old man who said he
met her on a trail and accompanied her for twenty
to thirty minutes before turning back towards the camp. That
description makes it sound like she met Gerald on the
trail to the lakes and started walking together. But this

(15:23):
one newspaper could be absolutely incorrect on that because there
are many errors and newspaper articles on this particular case.
We do know that Gerald Stewart lived in Burlingame, just
north of Saratoga, so he didn't live very far from
Stacy and her family. All indications are that they didn't
know each other, but again, there's very little out there

(15:44):
to go by. The fact that he lives so close
to the Heiris family could have simply been a coincidence
or maybe a talking point that helped develop a friendship
between George and Gerald while on the horseback trip, or
even Gerald and Stacy if they did just happen to
meet walking on the trail. In the end, it's hard
to see Gerald as a suspect because he's a bit older,

(16:06):
and even if he did do something, that's unlikely he
could have moved a body very far, especially not in
the timeframe we're talking about here. It seems the park
Service never saw him as a suspect, but then again,
we can't be sure, and they obviously interviewed him, so
they have far more details than we do to make
an informed decision. Ultimately, that is where things stand as

(16:27):
far as available information on the disappearance of Stacy airis.
We know very little, and that is likely because the
Park Service has not really released any documents related to
the case. I mean, they did release some documents at
one point, but it was just a few pictures, newspaper clippings,
and correspondence. It amounts to probably less than one percent

(16:48):
of the total case file. Since this is one of
those cases where we know very little, and also one
of those cases that folks have asked me to cover
so many times, I figured it would be necessary to
head out to yo Semite and up to the Sunrise Lakes.

(18:08):
Yosemite is an absolutely massive park, at over seven hundred
and fifty thousand acres or about twelve hundred square miles,
and perhaps most famous for its monolithic granite rock faces
like El Cap and Half Dome. The park is so
popular you can't just decide to drive in. Like most
national parks, you have to make a reservation and then

(18:30):
pay to get in. Even with the reservation system in place,
the line to get into Yosemite can take a while.
Once you're in, be prepared to spend a lot of
time driving around if you want to see multiple locations.
I spent three days at Yosemite, and during that time
I felt like most of my time was spent driving
from my campground to a trailhead, or from a trailhead

(18:52):
to Yosemite Village. It pretty much took an hour to
get anywhere because you're slowed down by the winding mountain
roads all route the park. This isn't necessarily bad, it's
simply a huge chunk of preserved nature. For this adventure,

(19:28):
I did not plan on following the same path as
Stacy Airis by starting over at the Tuolemie Meadows. Instead,
I traveled to the trailhead at Tenaya Lake, where you
can take the Sunrise Lakes Trail directly to the Sunrise Lakes.
This made the most sense to me, since getting to
the lakes is the goal here. In addition to this,

(19:49):
if Stacy did leave the lakes and make for a road,
it is likely that she would have taken this trail
as it is the fastest route out of the mountains.
The trail starts at the lake remains fairly level for
a while before climbing a steep ridge. You then take
a left at the fork and head towards the Sunrise Lakes.
So let's get started on the trail.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
All right, Good morning.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm here in Yosemite on the trail heading to Sunrise Lakes.
This is for the Stacey Eiras case. Starting out at
about a little over eight thousand feet, going up to
over nine thousand I believe, maybe ninety three hundred.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So we'll see how I do.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
With the altitude this time, though, I have had a
little time to acclimate, so hopefully it's not so bad.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So far.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
The trails looking good, not too hot yet, and hopefully
I'll make it to Sunrise Lakes and no time and
get a look at the place and see how this
enduring mystery could have occurred.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So let's get a move on. Well, a little trail update.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Spend a lot of up and down. It's getting a
little warm outside still early morning, though, pretty rocky trail, beautiful,
lots of trees, Like I said, lots of ups and
downs so far.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Nothing too steep though elevation. I can certainly feel it, but.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
It's not as bad as say, when I was doing
Shasta that's probably because I've been acclimated a little bit.
I spent a lot of time in Flagstaff Grand Canyon
prior to coming here. Those are about seven thousand feet,
so hopefully getting up to a little over nine won't
bother me too much. But as I've learned in the past,

(22:57):
altitude and me do not agree. But we'll see. So
we're going to continue on. Luckily, this trail is pretty
shady and a lot of spots, so that's great, not
a lot of direct son.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Looking forward to moving on.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Hm, well, I'm taking a brief respite. Ah, there's quite

(24:34):
an altitude game. One portion of this trail pretty steep incline,
so that's what I'm battling through right now. If it
only gets better as you go up, but the height
gets pretty difficult at this point.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm sure it'd be.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Much easier coming down.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, everything, the king, how the brooding, how things.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Having all right?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
So I've reached the top of the ridge mountain whatever
you want to call it, and basically the max elevation
I'm gonna get to out ninety ninety three hundred. I've
been checking my checking my blood oxygen level and it
hasn't gone below ninety so far on this trip, which

(27:31):
is great compared to some other higher altitude hikes I've
had where it's dipped into the eighties for quite some time.
That's usually when I start getting sick. So things are
going good. Seems to be pretty flat from here to
the lakes, and boy, flat feels real good about now.

(27:55):
And it's beautiful here.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Once you crest the hill you just get a nice
view of surrounding valleys. Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I gotta admit, when I was going up that ridge, boy,
I was kind of wishing that I was on a horse.
I would have made life so much easier. And it's
quite apparent that they go up here because you see
their excrement everywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
So good on those horses. That's pretty steep, So moving along.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Next stop should be Sunrise Lakes themselves, Bigfoot Tree break.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
It.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well. I made it to one of these Sunrise Lakes.
The others are not far from here. Maybe we'll go
check those out too. Feels good to finally make it here.
It's an absolutely gorgeous lake. It came up and it
was just like a mirror, and then when you get
close enough you can absolutely it's just crystal clear. You
can see the bottom, which kind of it gives an answer,

(32:01):
a bit of an answer to one of the questions
I had about the search. So much is not known
about how they did it and what they did. There's
just occasional newspaper clippings. In reality, the National Park Service
hasn't really released any of their own documentation on this search.
They posted a little thing on their own website, but

(32:23):
they provided basically nothing. They provided stuff like pictures and
not very many, and also some newspaper clippings that they
just had in their records. None of their own generated
records were actually released, so.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Very little is.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Known about what they did on the search. And when
it comes to the lake, I was really curious about
whether they searched that at all, if they did any
dragging of the lake, because it is possible and maybe
stands to reason that it could have perhaps been a
drowning or you know, if you want to go to
the foul play route. Maybe I don't know, it's hard

(33:01):
to say. Obviously a body's float, but I don't know.
It's one of those things I was wondering if they
really checked into it all. I'll also take a moment
and talk about Gerald, who's the older fellow that went
with Stacy as she was heading down to these lakes here.
He was in his seventies. Some people see him as

(33:24):
a suspect, which is fair. He was the last person
to see her and they were leaving together. He got
tired and she went on. There's a lot of questions
around him, And again because we don't have the report,
we don't really have answers to those questions. But when
it comes to Gerald and how they met him, how
they knew him, a lot of questions arise around whether

(33:44):
or not it makes sense that Stacy's father would just
let his daughter go off with an older man who
they don't know, or maybe they knew. We don't really
know anything about him. My assumption is that he was
also on their little horse ride that they were taking
through the trails here. Maybe they got to know him

(34:05):
and during that time or got to be real friendly
with him, and I suppose the father got comfortable with
the idea of sending his daughter off with Gerald to
the Sunrise Lakes. Now, it makes sense that Gerald would
have had to stop at some point in my mind,
because if you are taking a horse up here and
going through all these trails, you're not really working your body,

(34:26):
and so you might not notice the altitude as it's
kicking in and hitting you. So once they get hearing,
Gerald starts walking around and he has to come down
here to the Sunrise Lakes. Obviously it starts affecting him
and he has to stop and sit down for a
little while.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Stacy, being a bit younger, was able to go on
and then she's just never seen again. So she was
heading in this direction towards this lake and something happened.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Now we don't know what.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
There is a trail obviously going through here. One of
them heads back out to the road. It's about three
miles back to the road, and it's pretty steep. Why
would she do that doesn't really make any sense. Here

(35:37):
is some footage of the terrain surrounding the first lake
I came to. Obviously, this place is full of rock
and boulders interspersed with trees. Still, it is pretty easy
to move around in this area.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
By the first lake.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
There are a few places one could hide, but I
think an army of searchers would easily be able to
cover this area with confidence. But in order to get
a better feel of the area. I figured I might
as well continue on to the next lake. All right,
I'm back on the trail again. I'm going to head
to the next lake, just to see what that one

(36:11):
looks like, I guess, And I gotta say, I feel
like this hike is going a lot better than some
of the other ones I've done on this channel, because
earlier this morning it was really looking like it was
going to be a hot day, sun was out. It's
actually been pretty overcast, totally moderately temperature day, and I

(36:33):
haven't been attacked by any bears or mountain lions. Go figure,
So things are going pretty well. So as we continue,
I did want to briefly speak about the fact that
there has been It has been noted that Stacy was
having some troubles at home, though they were unspecified what

(36:55):
those were. I don't know if she was fighting with
her father on the trip, or if there's just something
going on in her life that we don't know about. Again,
we lack information. And that while she was on this
trip she was also missing her boyfriend. I guess that
was relevant because park officials needed to know if this

(37:16):
was a disappearance that was done on purpose by the missing.
Did Stacy leave of her own accord? We don't really know.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
It didn't seem like it. The main evidence for this
is that.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
She was leaving on this hike to the lakes here
in her sandals, and her father stopped her and had
her put on her hiking boots. And her dad said,
if she wanted to run away, it's unlikely she would
have tried running away in her sandals, And that may
be true, But then again, fourteen year old kids don't
really think ahead like that, So is it a good argument.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Possibly, then again, possibly not.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I mean, if she wanted to hike down here in
her sandals in the first place, obviously she wasn't very
forward thinking about what it takes to actually hike on
these trails, probably because she'd been riding a horse for
a lot of the time. So I actually don't rule
out voluntary disappearance on this one. And it's just a possibility.

(38:18):
I mean, she could have waited with Gerald, but she didn't.
She kept going and now she hasn't been seen again,
and it's easy to get lost out here. Well, it's

(39:42):
truly gorgeous out here. The lakes are just great. And
one thing got me thinking is that.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
A lot of this case.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Kind of hinges on how far could Stacy walk, And
again that's kind of an unknown into itself, because if
she could get pretty far, then this search radius they
had here would have been pretty intense. Most everything she
had in terms of terrain after leaving her camp was downhill,

(40:24):
which could be done pretty fast if you're in good shape.
I'm not necessarily saying that she did run off, but
it is a possibility if the possibilities were looking at
her foul play or her running off, I feel like

(40:45):
foul plays almost a harder cell because you're not going
to get a body out of here, it would still
need to be up here. So I'm here at the

(43:41):
second lake of the Sunrise Lakes, and this one was
a little different to get to. The first one had
a clear trail heading to it.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
This one did not.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Walked up on the main trail as far as I
wanted to and almost pass the lake here, and I
couldn't see any trails anywhere. Also, check the GPS, there's
nothing on the map that shows a trail leading here.
Yet once you get to the lake you start seeing
some very small trailish looking things, so maybe there is

(44:19):
a trail here, but if there is one, that's really
not very obvious, So that's kind of interesting. It kind
of clues you in that you could get lost trying
to get here. Who knows, And if we want to
talk about lost or getting lost instead of talking about
foul play or voluntary disappearance, I think it is very
possible that Stacy could have simply just got lost. One

(44:43):
key point about this whole case is that she wanted
to come down here and get photographs. And there's one
thing I kind of know about photographers. It's that they
like to put themselves in dangerous places sometimes to get
a really good picture. You know, there's some nice high
points around here that you could try and climb to
get to to get really good pictures of these lakes.

(45:06):
Makes me wonder if Stacy tried to do something like that,
you know, I mean, she was a teenager. She may
not have been safety conscious as many of us teenagers
when we were that age, we weren't either, So it's
a possibility. So and if that occurred, who knows, she
could have fallen. There's so much granted around here, it

(45:27):
would be really hard to search this area. You'd be
climbing all over the place. So was it just a
teenager who wasn't feeling very safety conscious and started climbing
into areas just she shouldn't have been, and then was
trying to get some pictures of these lakes on her own,
left her little chaperone behind, and gerald hard to say,

(45:49):
but it is a viable theory in my opinion, that
she could have simply got lost or had an accident
while doing something like that. So think about Some newspapers
mentioned Stacy taking a trail that goes up a ridge
in order to take pictures, but that is not a
description of the trail leading to the Sunrise Lakes. And

(46:12):
while I always take newspaper articles with a grain of salt,
I do wonder if something like that did occur. Hiking
up a ridge to get a photo and then falling
into a crack in the granite could be an explanation
for what happened, though I'd still be a bit surprised
that she wasn't found given the intensity of the search
efforts in this area. We know that when Stacy initially disappeared,

(47:00):
some of the staff from the camp up above came
down and looked for her, but to be honest with you,
depending on how many there were.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
This is actually a really huge area to have to look.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I mean, three lakes and they're separated from each other,
and there's a ton of granite everywhere that is climbable.
That's a lot to have to look at. Obviously, they
didn't find her, and so they had to call in
more help. Much of the search is kind of a mystery, though,
and that's kind of the thing I don't like about
this case. It bothers me to do cases where we

(47:34):
don't have all the information and why the NPS is
holding that I am not so sure though in my experience,
when the NPS has a huge case file, which purportedly
they have a rather large one on this case that
they don't want to release, it reminds me of the

(47:54):
Dennis Martin case. You know, Dennis Martin disappeared in the sixties,
so as before Stacy disappeared, they haveally released those records,
and what was in those supposed evidence of possible foul play,
but pretty much unlikely, I mean, nothing was definitive. It
makes me wonder if it's something similar with this now.
Obviously Stacy disappeared later and we are over forty years

(48:17):
on from this case, so maybe it's about time they
release it because whether there was foul play or not,
it's going to be a little too late to charge anyone.
I mean, if there was some sort of murderer involved
in this case, you would have to be at least sixty,
if not older, by now. And something tells me they're
not really actively investigating this anymore. So I feel like

(48:39):
they should release it. But every park is kind of
its own thing. You know, Great Smoky Mountains released the
Dennis Martin case file.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
That was their choice.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
You know, they decided we're done investigating this, the public
can have it. Apparently Yosemite likes to really hold onto
their cases and say no, no, we're still investigating it,
so the public can't see it, even though it's almost
certain they are not investigating it. You can look on
that with suspicion. I just look on it as you know.

(49:11):
Some parks don't function well. They have a bunch of
people that are just power hungry. They don't like to
release records or who knows what their reason is. I
wouldn't be surprised if the day comes when they do
release these records and there's something odd in there, maybe
a suspect or something, but obviously it is really unlikely

(49:33):
anything is going to come of that.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
But it's hard to.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Compile a record of possibly thousands of pages about someone
who disappeared in a remote area. I mean, what are
all those pages of narrative reports of the search. That's
not going to take up that much. Interviews with witnesses
apparently there were only really two, but of course they
would have interviewed her family and any other people in

(49:58):
the area that they found, and apparently they were checking
any register they could to find people in this area.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So maybe they did do a lot of interviews. Maybe
that is a bulk of it, but I don't know
what else.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
You know, there's apparently no evidence, no clues in this case,
so but that's just what was reported in the papers.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Maybe there is clues, but.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Then again, Yo Semite is a funky park when it
comes to releasing records. Others are more amiable and they
will allow it, but Yo Semity is just weird. So
that's kind of the deal with the information related to
this case and why we have so little of it.
So it's actually pretty secluded out here too. By the way,

(50:42):
I've seen very few people at the lakes. I saw
quite a few people coming up the trail to get
up here, but I think they were actually taking a
separate trail and go in a different direction. The lakes
are really secluded and quiet, and I suppose you could
say in a way eerie, because you know, Stacy disappeared
up here, and I'm aware of that fact and aware

(51:05):
that it's always a possibility that her remains could still
be up here, and so that's pretty typical for anywhere
I go. And that's a secluded area where the missing
individual hasn't been found, but it's such a serene place.
It's just weird to think about the tragedy that has
occurred here as well. I suppose it's also worth talking

(51:54):
a little bit about foul play while we're here. I
think this is going to be the last lake I
stop at. But one thing I've noticed just walking through
the wilderness out here is there are the occasional campfires
you run into evidence that someone was kind of wilderness
camping in this area. I'm sure the same was true

(52:16):
back in the eighties, though I'm sure things have changed
a lot. I mean, Yosemite itself has changed a lot
with the amount of people that they let in and
things like that, and you got to get a permit
to camp out here overnight.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
But the question is how many people were camping.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Here when Stacy disappeared, and is it possible one of
them was somehow involved in their disappearance? Abduction I think
is out of the question because abducting people at high
altitude and trying to get a fourteen year old girl
down off of this mountain would be extremely difficult. To
kill someone, on the other hand, and hide the body,

(52:54):
that might be a different situation altogether. Is it worth contemplating?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I mean, anything's a possibility when we don't know anything,
so but that doesn't mean much. You know, could bigfoot
be involved?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Sure? Why not? But foul play?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
What are the odds that someone was up here and
were evil enough to want to do harm to a
fourteen year old girl?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Sure it's possible. Hopefully it didn't happen. I am tending
to lean more to lost.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Or she went off trail to take that picture and
fell because some of these slopes are real.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Steep, or did she try and leave? What was her
relationship like with her father on this trip? Why didn't
her father go with her?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Why was it gerald this kind of unknown man that
they might have just met and had only known for
a few days while riding horses. A lot of unanswered questions.
In that sense, I feel like a broken record, But
I really wish we knew more because it would really
help develop a theory in this case. But at the

(54:06):
top of the list, I'd have to say, she went
off trail looking for a picture, fell died somewhere, somewhere difficult.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
To get to.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
And then that possibility that she just decided to get
out of here somehow, maybe she knew it was only
probably four four miles to the nearest road. What was
she the kind of child to run away? A lot
of unknowns about her personality, which makes it hard to

(54:36):
really speculate. You might be looking at that hillside I
just showed and thinking that it seems a little far
fetched that she would try to go up there or
take a picture of this lake, And that's not really
what I'm saying. I think that would be really difficult

(54:58):
and she probably wouldn't attempt it. But the camp is
actually up there behind me, so she would have been
up there coming down towards where I am, and could
she have tried to go out onto a ledge there
and get a picture of this.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Lake that I'm at.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Absolutely, and it wouldn't require walking up as much. So
that's more what I'm talking about when I talk about
did she try to get a good vantage point for
a picture, Because when you're up higher and you're coming down,
there's more options for you to get or go to
ledges where you could get a good advantage.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Point and possibly have an accident.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Unfortunately, I don't know exact coordinates or anything about where
she was last seen, but obviously she was on the move,
so the possibilities are endless anywhere from the first lake
on down to the third, So a lot of unknowns.

(56:09):
You know, a lot of people talk about Yosemite and
are kind of scared of it, it seems like, because
so many people go missing here. But in a way
it kind of makes sense. Yosemite is a gigantic park
and it is one of the more wild parks out there.
The fact is there are actually very few roads going

(56:30):
through Yosemite. There is roads going along up and down
north to south on the western edge of Yosemite, and
then there's one that goes from west to east. So
when you look at a map of it, that's actually
not a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Most of this.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Terrain is all you got to get to it through hiking.
I think Yosemite is largely about hiking. This is a
place you come to recreate, move around, hike, do whatever.
There's some sight seeing you can do. You can come
in here and see Half Dome and l Cap and
all the other big granite faces that Yosemite is known for.

(57:09):
But to really get the Yosemite experience, you really have
to hike here. And a lot of people come and
do that and they're not prepared, and I think that's
what leads to so many disappearances around here. So I
mean other parks they're very different. Sometimes they're much more
about access and seeing certain things. You know, take Yellowstone

(57:30):
for example, you got Old Faithful, the Grand Prismatic Spring,
plenty of other geysers and springs in the area, and
all of them have well maintained trails or you know,
wooden bridges that lead right to where you need to
go to see what you want to see. And roads
going through Yellowstone. You know, there's a big circular one

(57:52):
as I recall, and you can pretty much go around
the whole thing and see the sites.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It's a little more involved here you're at Yosemite.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
So I do wonder if that's the reason why more
people disappear here and very few disappear at Yellowstone. Just

(58:41):
kind of walking around the area, I'll say that surrounding
the Second Lake there is a lot of boulder fields.
Now I don't necessarily think that's relevant to anything, but
I figure some people.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Out there might be interested in that fact.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And let me be quite clear that, well, I am
kind of going off trail in this general area, and
of course I got a GPS, personal locator beacon and
all that. But what I'm trying to say is that
I have no illusions that I'm going to find anything
relevant at this point. Again, it's been over forty years,

(59:46):
I believe, since this occurred.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It's been a.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Long time, and the chances of finding anything at this
point are pretty slim. Possibly some bones left somewhere, maybe
some gear that camera, but you'd hope that they searched
this place quite thoroughly. But again we don't really know.
You can only help, but it's kind of interesting taking

(01:00:12):
a look around. Some areas are easier to navigate than others.
Some areas are steeper. You have to climb over a
lot of granite that sure does look like a trail,

(01:00:48):
So maybe there is a trail here, but it's hard
to see from the main path. It's kind of hard
to tell because some of these granite slabs you get
confused into thinking they're like a sidewalk or something. You know,

(01:01:10):
it just tricks the eye and then you realize, no,
that's just a granite slab. No one poured any concrete
or anything, and you realize what looked like a path
is just some slab granite that's sitting here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
So it can be kind of interesting. You can be
led astray.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well. I got to say that, despite knowing what has
occurred up here and that there is a still missing
individual in this area, I really wish I could have
got a wilderness permit to camp out here at this
lake because it's really peaceful here and just gorgeous, and
I could avoid hiking back today. But the permits for

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this area go real fast and are hard to get.
So that's just how it goes sometimes. And you know,
to get into pretty much anything you want to do
at Yosemite, you're going to have to think way in
advance and get the proper permits, and just goes to
show how popular this place is. They let very a
limited number of people in every summer. Now you got

(01:02:12):
to get a reservation just to get in, and the
lines are still long. And if you want to do
things or camp overnight in the wilderness, you gotta get
a permit for that. And if you want to climb
half domeb you gotta get a permit for that. And
so so many people have wanted to come here that
pretty much anything you want to do you're gonna have
to pay for and plan ahead of time and get

(01:02:33):
the proper permits for. And it's a little bit more
of a pain than other parks, but that's just kind
of how it goes for places of beauty. I guess
everyone wants to go there, and yet surprisingly, like I said,
I really haven't seen anyone here, so go figure. I
wonder who those permits went to. If you're watching this,
I hope you enjoyed it. So but that's kind of

(01:02:58):
how it goes. And I'm gonna have to head out
of here pretty soon. I haven't had any additional thoughts
looking around the train here and other than it's actually
a really nice place and I think anyone would be
lucky to come here and camp out. Well, I'm heading

(01:04:20):
back down now. It's getting a bit hot out. The
sun finally shone its face, and luckily I just got
a lot of downhill to do because I'm pretty tired
of going up. One thing I noticed just heading back
down again and just looking around is that if you

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get off trail here in many of these areas, say,
if you wanted to go take a picture and you
went off trail and then you tried to look back
down where you had just been, you would not be
able to see where the trail was. I mean, it
just looks like everything else. When you're on the trail,

(01:05:05):
it's more easy to see where you need to go
because this whole area is just large chunks of granite everywhere,
and you have a general direction of where.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
You need to go. Obviously, I have the benefit of
a GPS, so I always know where to go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But if you left the trail and then tried to
come back, you could have a hard time finding the
trail again. Just another in the long line of possibilities
of what could have happened to Stacy out here, and
I do think the probability is that she left to

(01:05:39):
take a picture of something, try to get a better
vantage point, and she either lost the trail or had
an accident. That's what's making the most sense to me
right now, looking at this place and just looking at
all the places you could go to try and get
a photo of these gorgeous lakes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
That a way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Looks doable. I'm sure it'd be kind of tough, but
you'd get a hell of a picture. Finding your way
back to the trail might be a different thing. Or
making sure you don't fall because we're at ninety three
hundred feet here, that's another thing too, So.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Just another possibility, I think a.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
M three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
The one thing I keep noticing as I'm walking down

(01:08:08):
is how many areas you can go off trail that
kind of kind of look kind of fun, to be
honest with you, If you like climbing on rocks, then
you know Semity is the place to be for sure.
There's all sorts of little just all sorts of boulders
everywhere that looked like it be fun to get up
on to get a good advantage point go off trail.

(01:08:30):
You know, I was just looking out over there, and
I was like, well, that might be an interesting place
to go check out. Obviously I'm not doing that on
this trip, but trying to get in the headspace of
other people or even a teenager, you know, who might
want to go explore an area that looks like it
would be fun to explore. Just something I was thinking about.

(01:08:57):
There is an undeniable beauty in the Yosemite. While walking
the trails, you encounter many areas that are seemingly begging
you to go off trail to see what's around the
next bend or over the next ridge. It's pretty human
to want to explore, but Yosemite is a vast and
rugged place. Perhaps that is part of the reason why

(01:09:17):
so many people go missing in this particular park. The
hike down from the Sunrise Lakes is easier and just
about every way except maybe on the knees. Could a
fourteen year old girl do this, Yes, of course, But
would she want to? That is really the question, and
it is one that we can't be certain of given

(01:09:37):
the information we have. You would hope or think that
somebody would have seen Stacy on the Sunrise Lakes trail
if she decided to walk out that way, it would
have taken her quite some time to do so. Then again,
she would have made the hike in the evening when
there would be fewer people on the trail. Before we

(01:10:13):
continue on, there is one aspect of this case that
I think is important to cover. In some ways, the
Stacy Airas case is relatively unremarkable in this category of
missing people. And what I mean by that is the
fact that it's a case where someone seemingly vanishes without
a trace, and we know few details about it because
the records haven't been released. There are quite a few

(01:10:36):
cases like that, and most of them are not nearly
as well known. So the Airas case has certainly grown
in terms of recognition in the last ten to fifteen years.
And I think there is really only one reason for that.
Missing four one one and David Politis. He brought attention
to this case with his retellings on radio programs and

(01:10:56):
his books, and of his attempts to get the Stacy
Eras case file. If you're not familiar with that story,
let's take a minute to cover it. When compiling his
first two books, Politis was researching Stacy's case and attempted
to get the case file from Yosemite. His request was denied,
but more than that, he received a phone call from

(01:11:16):
an NPS special agent. The man wanted to know why
Politis wanted this old case file, which the reasons shouldn't matter,
They shouldn't even ask. In the end, the agent told
Politis that he would never get the case file for
Stacy Eiris. He told Politis that there were no suspects
in the case and that it was still considered a
missing person incident and not necessarily a crime. Still, the

(01:11:41):
exemption used to prevent the record's release was one which
states that releasing the records could interfere with future law
enforcement proceedings. Usually this is one you see used when
they actually believe there to be a crime or even
a suspect, but it's also one they can use if
a body has never been found and they just want
to jam you up. Afterwards, Politis attempted to file an appeal,

(01:12:04):
where a separate authority reviews the decision to see if
it was made correctly. That appeal is on record, so
let's take a quick look at it. Right up front,
the NPS tells him that his appeal was denied and
that they properly invoked Exemption seven to A, which permits
withholding records that could reasonably be expected to interfere with

(01:12:25):
law enforcement proceedings. They also advise him that the NPS
has a criminal investigation into the incident that is still ongoing.
That statement alone seemingly goes against what the special agent
supposedly told Politis on the phone. The NPS then goes
on to explain how premature release of the records could
affect their investigation by providing a virtual road map through

(01:12:49):
the government's evidence. Prematurely revealing the full scope of the
evidence obtained hinder the NPS's ability to further control and
shape the investigation and create a great potential for witness intimidation.
This is essentially the same reasoning the FBI used to
withhold the Denis Martin records for so many years, but

(01:13:10):
as we know, they released them not that long ago,
and probably because like fifty years had passed and everyone
was dead. Once the suspects and witnesses are all dead,
there's really nothing more to protect. The Denist Martin case
was older than Stacy's, but I would guess that Stacy's
case file could be released within ten years time. I mean,

(01:13:30):
most of the people involved in Stacy's case are probably
dead already anyway. Going back to the Politis appeal, he
actually tried a clever little attempt at circumventing the exemption
by arguing that the NPS allowed former law enforcement ranger
Charles Ferrabee to view the case file for writing his
book Off the Wall Death in Yosemite. You see, if

(01:13:53):
the NPS had previously released the case file to someone
and that information made it into the public, the NPS
can no longer hide behind exemptions for others seeking the
same records at a later date. Basically, once you release
records to one person, you can't withhold them from another
at a later date. Though Politis doesn't explain how he

(01:14:15):
knows that Faraby did have access to the case file
in the first place, and that turns out to be
kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
A problem still.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Politis argued that Farrabe wrote a lengthy section in his
book about the disappearance of Stacy Airis, and that due
to this, the NPS waived its right to invoke an exemption. Unfortunately,
the NPS did their due diligence and looked at the
book that Politis referenced. They said that the Stacy Eiras
segment in Farrabe's book is not lengthy as Politis described,

(01:14:46):
and they're really not wrong about that. It's basically one
page out of a six hundred page book, and while
it does have basic details that weren't in newspapers, it
does nothing but provide a basic overview of the Stacy
Airara's disappearance. So while Polita's argument was clever, it really
had no standing when you go and read the book.

(01:15:07):
The NPS states that the short general discussion in mister
Farrabee's book regarding miss Eiris's disappearance does not reflect the
detailed information contained in the nearly two thousand pages that
comprise the case file that you seek. In light of this,
there is no basis for the Department to conclude that
any record in the public domain duplicates that being withheld

(01:15:31):
by the NPS. In this case, thus, you have not
met your burden of establishing that a waiver occurred.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
The NPS goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
To state that they did not allow Farrabe to review
the case file for writing his book, and that they
contacted Farrabe personally about this, and he said that the
few paragraphs in his book regarding the incident derived from
his personal knowledge he gained about the incident when he
participated in the search activities, which kind of makes David

(01:16:00):
Politis look a bit bad. Either way, that was their
full reason for denying the release of these records, but
really the appeal alone gives us some important information to
take note of. We learned that they are treating the
case as a criminal investigation, and that there are about
two thousand pages worth of documents in the case file.
That is a massive case file for an incident like this,

(01:16:23):
and this is where Stacy's case differs from other unsolved
disappearances with few details. On those cases where someone vanishes
without a trace and the search fails and there's no
suspects or witnesses, there's very little writing. I've obtained access
to so many cases like that, cases of true vanishings

(01:16:43):
where you get the case file and it's somewhere between
two and ten pages, and information contained in them basically
says John Doe disappeared. We looked for him, but we
didn't find him. The case remains open. I've got quite
a few cases like that, but I can't even make
a video on them because there's so little to talk
about in this case. In Stacy's case, there is somewhere

(01:17:07):
around two thousand pages that shows there was a serious
investigation here. You don't generate that much paper when the
situation is just a girl disappeared, we looked for her,
we didn't find her. And I'm sure someone's going to
bring up the five hundred people that the NPS interviewed
in relation to this case, but I bet that makes

(01:17:28):
up a very small portion of the total case file
because ninety nine percent of those interviews probably went like this,
did you see a blondhaired girl while hiking in Yosemite?

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
No? I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
So while it outwardly seems like very little is known
about this case, it would appear that this is not
the truth. Obviously, there is much more to know, because
the case file is so big. I just can't imagine
you would have that many pages.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
And no leads.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
So even though I can see certain ways that someone
like stay she could fall and die in the area
of the Sunrise Lakes, you really can't rule out some
kind of foul play. And that is simply based on
the fact that the NPS is holding a ton of
information that we are not privy to. I mean, I
could see a scenario where Stacy attempted to hike to

(01:18:17):
the Tioga Pass road and started hitching rides back to Saratoga.
We know very little about what her mindset was while
she was on this trip, other than that she was
having trouble at home and at school, and that she
missed her boyfriend. We don't even have a statement from
her father describing her behavior leading up to the disappearance.

(01:18:37):
We are lacking so much. And while I understand the
park spokeswoman's statement that since Stacy initially tried leaving her
cabin wearing only flip flops, it would be indicative of
her not attempting a very long hike. That is a
fair argument. However, another part of me also considers that
teenagers don't always think things through. Still, I could find

(01:18:59):
plenty of flaws with this theory as well. I have
questions about whether or not she knew that the trail
to the Sunrise Lakes was also the quickest way to
the road. Who told her that she probably could have
managed that trail fairly quickly if she knew about it.
She did ask for directions from multiple people in the camp,
so it is possible she could have got this information

(01:19:20):
from them. Lastly, the three hikers coming up the trail
and meeting Gerald said that they didn't see Stacy at all.
That's obviously a problem. I suppose it's possible she could
have avoided them if she was moving around the lakes
and off trail, though, and like many disappearances, you have
to come up with a detailed scenario that allows a
theory to fit with the known details and circumstances. While

(01:19:43):
I do think the simplest explanation is that Stacy climbed
up a ridge to get a picture and then slipped
and fell, it's hard for me to imagine how that
simple of an explanation could account for almost two thousand
pages of a case file that exists. When it comes
to this case, the Park Service has shown many signals
that seem to indicate they have something in terms of

(01:20:06):
foul play. From the special agent who talked to Politess
to the appeal stating it's a criminal investigation, to the
size of the case file. It's not something I'm used
to seeing when the Park Service believes the case is
simply a lost person. I have received numerous case files
from the Park Service that relate to missing persons cases
that are still open. They released them because none of

(01:20:29):
the evidence pointed to foul play. They aren't doing that
in this case. We won't truly know what the Park
Service has or doesn't have until they finally release their documents.
That could be a while. Still, I think there's enough
here to make some inferences about what could have happened
to Stacy. I know this is a case that often
gets the paranormal treatment, mostly due to it being a

(01:20:51):
popular missing four to one one case, but I really
don't see any need to bring the paranormal into this one.
There are plenty of earthly explanations that could be had here,
despite the fact that we know very few details about
the investigation. Anyway, let me know your theories that you
have about this case and the comments, and until next time,

(01:21:11):
thanks for watching.
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