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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hello, Saturday babies we had it's not giving me
the thing. I'm so sick of the song over to
do and all of that sthing that's rive over there.
Oh hello everybody, it's just stopping. My beloved coming to you,
living and living color on a build with special Saturday night. Yeah,
it's moving now on a very special Saturday night where
we liked the women in about the wonderful shows. And

(00:24):
and oh I didn't know that. I did not know
that we celebrated sweeties down here in California. Oh my goodness,
what do I get? A swey day?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Kids?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
So him a made up happy sweetish Day?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
And you know what that is a.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Holiday that originated in the state of Ohio where the
greeting car company is and and it was it's pretty big.
I don't know if they still do it that we
to get chocolates and flowers. It's like my second uh
Valentine's Day. Uh, I would like to think of. And
since I didn't get a secret birth, I mean a
teet what is it? No sweets Day? I went to
Sweet sixteen ninety seen Sweet sixteen because I was sweet

(01:03):
something back then and there and see what's going on?
So we've been reminisce about forgive forgids, and I honestly
I wondered, why have this time with the Shack'll be
here with us in a minute to say to you,
thank you very much for listening, for watching, for praying,
for sending me good thoughts, and you know, and I

(01:26):
love every one of the prayers and when you put
the emojis in and all the beautiful stuff. And I'm
still learning, I'm still working to get that into the
twenty first century. This is twenty first century radio right
here on the internet. We are on blog top, We're
on restream, We're on Facebook, Instagram, all of those. I
can't remember what the name of it is. It used

(01:46):
to be called Twitter, I said, I could bridge. He
used to be called Twitter, and now they put his
excell in front of it. Because I don't guess the
excess catching on as month as much as mister Munk,
mister Eli Musk thought it was gonna by going in
buying up the you know, buying up the website, you know,
and everything and everybody that came with it, and I

(02:07):
mean they were moving right along. Most of us loved well,
I did I do. And so since now they put
a big giant xden So it's a giant X that
he was making as his NI was made. It as
made as his new go go and so to put
up I guess they put a big X in front
of it. So now I'm wondering, since X march the
spot and is it? Now? I don't know how to

(02:28):
pronounce it? Is that ex whitter? Is the Z whitter?
Because you know, some ex's been pronounced with a Z,
like the name Xavier, you know, Xavier. It starts, you know,
with a different letter that you would think. I would
think it would have started with a Z, you know,
but it starts with an X. And so, you know,
sometimes I wonder, and I'm concerned about these really really

(02:50):
wealthy people who figure they can do whatever they want.
They made their bones, they made their way. They're doing
a magnificent job, and why can't I do whatever it
is I want to do. I'm a rich man, I'm
a billionaire. And you know, with so many billionaires haveing
been made in the United States in the past what
ten fifteen years, you know, you got a billion, you

(03:10):
got a billion, everybody got a billion. I get my billion.
I'm still waiting on it. I got a million dollar
tech wherever my wallet is, but I still have not
got my billion dollars. And and you know, it's enough
money to go around. And I'm not trying to tell
people how to spend their money. I'm just saying, we
don't spend American dollars in American businesses like we do overseas.

(03:33):
You know, we got to learn to, you know, understand
that the middle class truly is the backbone of America, because,
as Jesus said in the Bible, where you will always
have to poor with you you want, you know, you
got to make up your mind what you're gonna do,
where you want to put your dust. You're gonna have
the politariat, and then you got your bourgeoisie class. I've

(03:56):
been called that. I still to this day don't understand
and how. And my nephew said that, he telling me, oh, Aunt,
tak you so boogie. I never, in my wildest dream
what I would have ever thought thought that I would
be bougie in the bourgeoisie class. And so I did.
I ask him, and I've asked him on a couple
of deccades, And since he said this to me, I said,

(04:16):
why do you think, why would you think I'm bougie baby,
I've been I've been knowing them in the womb, I've
I've been knowing them before their mother and father even
thought about it. Wasn't even a bliff on their radar.
And he said, because he thinks you should have the
best of everything. And I was, okay, what's the problem
with that. I'm willing to work on, you know, making

(04:38):
that happen. But I'm trying to figure out what would
make you because I do believe I should have the
best that you know best, that I can have the
best that I can get, and my best might not
be your best. And I understand that. I had a
friend who we used to drive the bus school bus together. Yes,
I had a regular.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Job and I've got, you know, all of my stuff,
and I.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Was a school bus driver for several years, five and
a half years to be exact. And he used to
tell us this phrase every day, good, better, best, never
rest until you're good is your better, and you're better
is your best. So I'm still working on you know, good, better,
better best. I'm still working on the first part of that,
because good and better to be better, and the way

(05:23):
to become and I never looked at it. It's like I,
you know, as being usual zero or anything like that.
I've always thought, Okay, I want to have this. I'm
gonna go work for it. I remember when I got
my first job, and I'm never gonna forget this. Until
my first job, I was fourteen years old. We had
to have a work from it. In Ohio, fourteen years old,

(05:44):
my first job was cleaning the baseboard. Doing it really
was the low work, doing this, but doing all the
work up under the windows, up under the window field
of the whole school. And so we started at the
top and it was only like a two or three
story school. It was an elementary school, might not even
been two stories, but nonetheless they had a lot of windows,

(06:05):
and so there was a lot of space for us
to work through. And so when I got my first
little job, all you or I can tell you, butter
could not melt in my mind. Aunt thought I was
like spoken high. I got my own money in my pocket.
I never looked for a boyfriend because I really didn't

(06:25):
like boys. I liked the men whom adult men with jobs.
And I had to pay taxes to the government, and
they used to tell me all the time. Why you
don't like boys joys? Because that's the word right there. Boy,
I don't like a boy. I don't like children. I
don't want a groom's man child like Peter Pan. You know,
I like them gritty. I like them you know pretty.

(06:45):
You know, I like them gritty. I liked them hardworking,
and I liked them intelligent. And they had an income
TAXI check that they would share with me. And when
I say there, it was the gun in my baby
DK Davis. Because I know what you think and all
of you think that I had no life before for Kennedy, Well,
I don't know. I had a life and I haven't
been even a bigger life with Kennedy and all the

(07:06):
things that we have done together and all the things
that you know, we don't fell on our face. We
just get back up. You know. That's the difference between
a warrior or between a warrior who's willing to get
into the trenches and do you know what needs to
be done to get where they got to go? And
I did all of my legally I did for maybe
some people didn't for the most part, now that it

(07:30):
was no big deal, and so well, I think you know,
watching all these people and watching these guys you know
do their thing and everything and people you know coming
through and you know they're come in and out of
your life. You know you can have a Okay, they
can see you. I now haven't intended right do to

(07:51):
your shoulder, Okay, okay, asking fifty times. Okay, I got
to read boot it. So just keep talking. Okay, keep
talking on blog talk. And so as we're working to
fix yet another technical difficulty, we've had to had them
all week. And so anyway, I was working to share

(08:13):
with you when I was a kid, when I didn't
think of myself as a kid, I'm figuring that my
mother used to tell us grown people have jobs, and
so I felt like I was a grown person because
I had a job. Yes it was for the summer,
because I had a job. When I went back to school,
I washed the dishes in our cafeteria. And that's before
everything was all automated and everything and so and I

(08:34):
did that. And so in the summertime, you know, when
I wasn't in school, I worked, you know, in the
summer school program. And oftentimes when you go to work,
and that's you know what you that's it can become
your whole life, you know, it can become your whole day.
And I was out there and I'm doing my thing.
So I give them a little check. And this was

(08:57):
right before school because I was getting my last summer
school check and I was going back to school or
other a few days earlier to help them get the
kitchen and everything ready, you know, for the kids to
come through everything and had to be stacked and sterilized.
The more they have you. And so I was like, Okay,
the first thing I'm gonna buy my stuff for myself

(09:18):
is a pair of Stewart Whiteman shoes. Oh my god,
I still have the shoes. And this I mean because
when you think about it, I know, people say, well,
all I want to wear the designer clothes. All the
ones wear design All I want to do is wear
designer shoes or carry designer bags or whatever it was.
And I get it. I get it. I get it.

(09:39):
I like, I like really fancy shoes. I want them
fancy and durable. And when you spend money on your
shoes for a woman, on your shoes and your bags,
And now he gonna forgive me, how baby kid? You
hear me? Hey, okay, but forget about what I said.
Y'all keep that and let that marinatee. Because Shaq was

(10:02):
working on some stuff for us. I don't know. They
told me don't touch the button. This is my don't
touch the buttons. Okay. So okay, now that's fun like that.
Oh you did it, Thanky babies. Okay, So this is
our Saturday. It's been out some time together and I
was just waiting, you know, for you to come in.
It's God always see you on Sataye app eating and

(10:25):
I so appreciate you and what they do. Okay. So
what Chack does is what he's done. The majority of
what he's done already, he went through I don't know
how for several years not didn't get distearched and went
and found episodes and forgive it for against start downloading them.
Uncle Bongs TV. One of our friends introduce stuff via

(10:48):
the internet. So I get the whole social media thing.
I'm starting to get that to be with connected with
people haven't seen, you know, and be able to do
something like this to reminisce on the stories, on the tears,
on the laughter, on the disappointments that were were forgive
or forget. So he picked. I don't pick. I have
anything to do with what he picks. I'm just saying this,

(11:10):
you know, for myself. So you know how to say,
don't say it to protect the innocent. Okay, I can't
even I can't even give my friend to point that way. Okay,
So what do we have for today? What are we
starting with? All right, this is all right.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
We're gonna some three good ones here. So the first
one is, well, you're probably gonna lose petitions.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yep. Say I had one sip of tea women and
this was too Oh wait, I got to sip it. Okay,
I got him. My husband went and got me a
big giant box of tissue just for you. Yes he did,
because he said, why you don't want to know what's
on the subject, so you know if you want to.

(11:55):
Because I wanted to be walkers all, I know that
I was there. But as all comes down to, I've
always liked this show like a like a veealer, you know.
So okay, I got my taste. I'm ready. All right.
This first story is but you kind of got really
fuzzy's mm hmm sound fuzzy. No, you look fuzzy. Oh no,

(12:21):
it's your shoulders, not fuzzy and just make me maybe. Okay,
so we never do it. I don't care what kind
of fun we in. Okay, so this one I don't
so tell us about this doing. Yeah, this one's a
little more so.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Woman's coming on the show to thank the man who
saves a song's life by donating his bone marrow. Yeah,
so this is a little bit different than a regular segment.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
But yeah, it's just pretty it's pretty good. So here
you go.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
When if the person they're hoping to see will say
I forgive you or forget it, welcome to forgive or.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
And now the host for tiver forget mother live. I
know I was stopped on that busy show.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, everyone, welcome to forgive or forget. Let's meet our
first get My name is Joyce Miller. My son, Matthew,
was diagnosed with a very rare disease. I was told
without a bow marrow transplant, he probably wouldn't live after
the age of four. I'll never forget the day I
got the calls that they've found a man willing to
donate his bow marrowed my son. This man saved Matthew's life,

(13:41):
and I want to.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Thank him for it.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Hi, Joyce, Now when did you find out that Jared's
son was six? He resignized at thirteen months old with
an any indeficient seeing called Wiscott Aldrich syndrome.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
And what is Wiscott Aldred syndrome.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
It's a very rare disease that affects only boys.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
It affects in one and two hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
It's in iman deficiency.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Their blood doesn't caught and they suffer some from severe
eximous really and only little boys, kid, this only in boys.
That's passed from mothers to sons all. So this is
a genetic yes, and you said it's very rare. How
where is it my son?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
When he was diagnosed with the only one in Oklahoma
with it? Oh my goodness, he was a hundred and
one in the nation. Oh myne.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So when they tell you this, what do you think,
My god, I'm gonna lose my child. And he's only
thirteen months over on thirteen. So then when they tell you,
what do they tell you can be done? If anything
can be done? He can be treated once a month
with a medicine that kind of just helps sustain his

(14:48):
immune system.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
But the O only care four isn't going around transplant.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Without that, he probably would not have made it till
f to four. Really, and if he does make it pa,
if he didn't make it has four, he probably would
have died.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Before he was tending cancer.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
For all.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, as a mother, we'd think about all the
things that can go wrong with our children just playing
and jumping and being normal little kids. To find out
at such a young age that your child is so sick,
how did.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
You handle such devastating news.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
At the time.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I did the best I could, and I was married
at the time, but through all the fitness and and
everything that it took a toll on my marriage and
I ended up divorced. And so now you got a
sick baby and no huns, right, so you kind of
standing there on your l on your own pretty much basically. Yeah,

(15:48):
So they what did you do?

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Well, pray to God a lot, Okay, took it one
day at a time and just pray.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
We down darn So you did l for a dollar?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, we lived for a dinner.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
We tested my family, We tested my husband's time of
his family.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Nobody matched. We went to the National Registry and about
six or.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Seven months later they told me they had a matched
and so they would happen when they got do that.
In November of nineteen ninety four, he went to the hospital.
He took three different types of chimo therapies.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
One took one medicine took eight to ten hours to give.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
He broke out in the hives all over from it.
One medicine, well, he.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Was too young to fwolve hills, so they had to
crush him us and.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It take.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
It was real bitter tasting.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So they had to stick in those two down his
house in the stomach three times a day. Now, Oh,
let me see when he his little body was going
through all these he lived a little over.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
He was about two and a half years. Oh god,
when on one we.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Had three medicines, three different chimos for a period of
thirty teen days.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
And then on November seventeenth he had a transplant.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Hate So they found that doing the fooring dinner.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
And you U wanted to say to him you were here,
because thank you.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
How does how does your son now? He he just
turned six and Pegruary he's six.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Sixth story first grade.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Next week, Well, we sat down with Joyce and helped
her prepare a special videotape message for the man who
saved her son's life.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
Some wagers, well, so I take a look at that message.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
As we see him watching it for the first time.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That's the death part. I double.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I want to thank you for saving my son, Matthew's life.
The day he was diagnosed with his life threatening disease.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
With the statst day of my life.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
But when I got the phone call that he had
a boner match with one of the happiest He gave
my son the gifts of life, and he gave me
a red hope.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, I'm have tears. You waited a long time at
take you to thank Tom in person, Joyce, and we're
not gonna keep you waiting, not one more second longer.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Time.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'm here and he's behind our door.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Why don't you just go over there and say hello
to him?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Open that door there he is.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm sorry, No, don't you dare be sorry? Don't you
dare you tell him now? Tell him right there, thank.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Him so much. It's been it'll be four years.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
So they were seventeen, and he's doing wonderful it wasn't free.
You might not even be here.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
Than you.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ain't a dr late.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
H.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And you didn't even know him. Tom Bood made you
decide to become a bone maller dollar.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
While I was stationed in Corpus CHRISTI at UH Naval
Hospital down there, and we were having a bone marrow
drive and I was down there, uh drawing blood from
the people that were supposed to be known, and.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
I decided to go ahead and get my own.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
And they said it and usually you never get called,
and if you do, it's a great honor. And about
six months later they contacted me.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
I would transfer to Portsmouth Naval Hospital.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
I was going through school.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
There and uh they they said I was a possible match.

Speaker 10 (19:51):
And they started out with UH ten of us and
we had to go and do a lot of blood work,
and then they narrowed it down to five and we
did more blood work, and then they narry down to
two of us, and then we did more blood work,
and then they told me that I would be.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
The best possible match for this little boy.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And you didn't even hesitate. Did you want to be
in your wildest dream? That's something so oh, well, I'm
taking this from them test the neighbor, but maybe I
should do this. Did you ever think in your wildest
dreams that something so selfless would make the difference between
a child's living and not would make the difference of

(20:27):
a mother seeing her baby go the first grade when
they told her that he might not make it.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I didn't think about it.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, it's not at all, you know. I don't know
how many of you are have ever even thought about
ever doing something like this to donature maryl to be
an organ donor. Many of us just don't even think
about it. He didn't think about it, But look at
the difference it made. And Tom, there's someone else here.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Who wants to thank you. Let's open the door and
bring him out.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Now, it's for him.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
I'm the whole thing out.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm sy.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Hi, Matthew, Hi.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
How are you could say?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Fine? Mother?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Not?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I just wanted to say hey to you baby.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Look at that face?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And how could any of us look into.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
A face that precious and that innocent and know that
if we just took the time. I mean, we have
been allowed the ability to do this, and it's for
a reason.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So that we can help one another.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I am a huge advocate for us donating our blood
and our organs when we don't need him. This is
a house the spirit of who you are will always
be there if you have a good spirit.

Speaker 9 (22:03):
Yes, first of all, like the mine boy did all,
I want to make a commenty hear of that, especially
with leukemia and cancering bomera donation.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
It's amazing that he managed to match because I just
came across the story of a lady now who is
four years old and she has two sons, and she's
Tellia's cancer and there's no match. Maybe one in a
million can actually imagine it's incredible. This could actually got
match from here.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That's that's amazing.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
It is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
And the ordeal the Joys and her family have been
through who it isn't over yet, everybody. And January of
this year, Joyce Gay Bird to another son, Lane, and
he too has been diagnosed with the very same disease
Matthew Head. And we're talking about this because we want
you to know that you just might be the person
who can save Lane's life or somebody else's life.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
If you'd like to find out more.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
About becoming a bone Mary Well donor take down this
number and call it's one hundred MARYL two or one
eight hundred six two seven seven six ninety two, or
you can contact them at their website www dot MARYL
dot org.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
I thank you all.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Please think about it, Please really think about it.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We'll be right back. I know how important organ don't
don't mention is, and it's really it's a very slim
number of people of color to get because they don't
want to go. They don't want to go and get tested.
I don't want nobody taking my body part. Or if

(23:36):
I'm donating my order, people don't you know, people will
be trying to kill me off.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
So they did get my or I'm like, really, yah.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Y'all went all the way to this part, you know,
because Mama, I believe it was a rumor, but it
was plausible enough for our people to believe it. There
was a rumor going around that they called them some
kind of name like eight Ambulization, where they were in
skied wrong downtown LA and claim they were riding around

(24:04):
picking up who they thought was healthy and cutting their
kidneys out because they could sell their kidney online for
one hundred thousand dollars. You know, they don't even wait
for the person to be dead. They just but I
don't know. But even if that is crazy, to bring
attention to the importance of organ donations, and especially in
our community communities in a Browns and our African Americans,

(24:27):
Asian Americans, you know, especially people who are and who
are of mixed race. You don't know how that blood
to give mixed up in there, you know, do your things.
One of my girlfriend's mothers, I love her, don't much.
We miss her so much. She donated, she got her heart,
She had to have a heart transplant, and she got
her heart transplant from a young guy in nineteen years

(24:49):
old was killed in a motorcycle accident. And this woman
had never drank as far as long as I've known her,
I've never seen her drink alcohol. I've never seen her
smoke a cigarette. She said, girl email when my mother
woke up, and you know, she was, you know, getting
her her faculties together about about what had happened, and

(25:09):
she was gonna be all right. She said straight up
in the bed and said, oh, I think I want
a cool a cold beer. And we were like beer,
What I thought she was saying? Bear? She said beer.
And she even called the title of it. He even
called the name of the beer, and she said, wow,
she ain't never ask her was so she gets to
go to the store get him on my bottle, a

(25:31):
bottle of a cold beer. Said, she tells me like
she was nineteen years old. I was like, And when
she told her the story, she said, I believe that
when people get old and donated to them, especially their
hearts and that lungs and her kidneys, sometimes they take
on the a trait of the person who donated donated
to them. And I implore you, you can do it.

Speaker 12 (25:55):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I couldn't. I can no longer be a donor once
I got diagnosed with diabetes. But then I'm wondering about
you know, maybe be since then and now they might
have came up with something, you know, because did you
know that all of your organs, especially your skin, are
you could care in front of them, especially in burn units.
Isn't that something?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
That's the part about her story when George said, in
the middle of a crisis with her baby being this still,
they took a straight on her marriage and her husband
left her and his kids baby. I mean, and I've
heard that a lot of times people get sick. Children
get sick, and the people said, I just can't deal
with it. And I've seen both the man leave as

(26:37):
the mother leaves. One of the people I know he
has three days and when it dropped him on at
somebody in the house and they have not seen her
hide nor hair. So what happened to the kids? They
went into the system because they would considered abandoned and
I'm like, you cut, get over your head, and this
is a kid. They don't understand that. Then they start
thinking something is wrong with me, you know, And it

(27:00):
could be very hard, it can be very difficult. But
we got to step up, you know. And on that day,
I thought I'd put on a big girl patties that day.
Well at that time there were a big girl draws
and I was trying to hold it back. But when
he died, stuff like that, and just to say thank you,
to say thank you, that was that.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Was worth, that was worth.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
That was really working.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, let me get that's good, okay, okay, all right now,
I was gonna get back to the Yeah, go back.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
To the story. That was that was a really nice
that was a really nice thing. Well, another one of
my friends had he had to have two kidney transplants,
not at the same time, but he had a kidney
transplant and like ten or twelve years later, you know,
he he that kidney stopped working on me. And because

(27:50):
he was such a young guy, he was, you know,
he took really good care of himself. They had to
give him another kidney transplant and he lived another uh,
come on, how many years he lived after that? And
he started it was an African American man and he
started a nonprofit for other people of color to go
and don't now when he's checked the sea, if you

(28:13):
could be a donor. I found this out for my
son the other day, and you could have just threw
me for a look, he said. I was looking at
that java's license for something we needed and you got
to pink dot on if you got to pick dot
on your driver's license and California, that mean just an
organ doner.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I did not know my child was an organ donors.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I said, why you gonna tell me that? He said,
why does doctor you know you knew that? Because do
you think that what you said? God can't take them
with me? And if I could, you know, why are
you gonna take them? And somebody else could be helped.
I did not know, ain't been an organ. Donus if
he got a jobage license, he like four hundred and twelve.
So it's important you look it up, donate when you can't,

(28:53):
because you never know you might be the person changed
somebody else's life. Okay, so I had to get you know,
get off the weep. I'm ready with your thoughts. I
think it's.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think it's whatever you do, you have the opportunity
to do that, I mean, you gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean I wish I could, you know, with my
mom when she you.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Know, we were thinking about you know, her kidneys and
her kidneys were you know, losing kidney pants.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's another thing that's just so you know, it's so
rare to get somebody who's the same type, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I just you know, I just you know, especially again
with people of color, our kidneys, you know, just so mad.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It comes how it comes to be.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
But yeah, every time you have the opportunity, you gotta
do it.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
And that's important. That's really important, especially if you hear
about it. Uh and blood, because the blood supplied in
the country is pretty Lolcome you could donate blood, do that.
I ain't got but the teeth doing blood in Mesel.
If I could donate, I would, but then I'd be
down to half a teeth on him be in trouble.
But when you can do, those who can do, those

(30:05):
who can't teach. I teach people about the importance of
being an organ doner, and it could be them next. Okay,
I'm ready, all right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Let's meet our next guest. My name is Michelle Davis.
My friend was engaged to a guy that I thought
was no good for her. So the day before her wedding,
I took a pair of visits and cut up her
wedding dress. Today I want to apologize to her.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Okay, wait, why did you cut up your friends?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
I cut up her wedding dress because I disapproved of
the guy she was dating. Me and Sharene went friends
about two and a half years. She's who like a
sister's need, and we went to a nightclub, you know,
and she met a guy and I.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Knew he was familiar.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
You know, I've seen him before.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
So she was like, child, you have one too many.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I was like, no, I've seen him before. So she
was dating him for about two weeks. I asked the
former friend. I was like, you've seen him before. She's like, yeah, child,
I used to date him. Oh.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I was like, oh no.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
She's like he's a cheetah of a con artist to layah.
He used to abuse her and everything. So this girl
being like my sister, of course, I'm gonna round back
and tell her. So I was like, you know, scream,
this guy not for you, baby. You need to get
somebody else that's gonna treat you the way he's gonna
treat you. She's like, you need to mind your business.
He's doing, you know, what he's supposed to do or whatever.

(31:39):
So later on after that, she comes to me talking
about we're gonna get married.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I was like, you're talking about marriage.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I've been, you know, going out for like four or
five months. She trug him out marriage. So she was like,
you want to be, you know, my bride'smaid. And I
was just making a whole bunch of excuses. I'm like,
it's cold, is tack, guy ain't wearing no dress.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I tried, you know, okay, I guess you did take
me up to the day when you decided.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Did you go in the closet, the cars or.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Box, the trunk to cut up her wedding dress. I
mean you cut it up, all right, a piece of
something that you cut the Okay.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
It was the day before her wedding. I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
The way I start, okay, you know, we go there,
all right. I was thinking just to try to sabotage,
you know, maybe fall out of something, you know, throw
off or something.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
I was trying anything.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I did not want her to get married to this guy.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Because she was telling me moneys miss.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Saying, you know, people calling her house and stuff, and
she just was then complete denial, and I'm like, what's up?
You know, you don't get the picture. So waitmen, you know,
usually the maid of honor, she calls you up and
she's like, well, girlfriend, what did you need me to do?
What I needed to cut up my wedding dress?

Speaker 8 (32:58):
What kind of maid of honor?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Word that you wouldn't be? You know, usually they're supposed
to be thinking about how they can help, how they
can sellotaze, you know, gonna be your brides maid, I
buy a pants suit or something to go or whatever.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Okay, So now I want to find out about her
cutting up this wedding.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
J right, Okay, So you go to where are you?

Speaker 3 (33:22):
She makes close She makes own clothes, but she didn't
make this dress. So I know how to cut, so
she can't stitch back.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
So I went in the closet.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
You know, you go to department stores, they give you
the big bags that tie at the bottom. So I
took the big scissor with the you know, orange joint,
and I opened the closet, took the night out, lift
up the bag, and just started cutting through the satin
right across and I cut up the boost the age.

(33:52):
Because you can't have.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
Big stitches down satin and embroidered.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
She can't fix it.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
So after that, after I cut cut up the dress,
we went to go get sunny eat and after that
she called me his semple girls too chick call my
house talking about that's my man. You better leave me alone.
She was like, I'm so fed up, Michelle, I can't
do this no more. So I finally broke down.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, girl, I have trying to tell you.
You know, I destroyed your wedding dress.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I cut it up, and she just dropped the phone
and did one of those oh I can't believe you,
You're crazy to Oh yeah, I would have been yeah,
I would have been there too. Yes, wait a minute, okay, yes,
come on, tell me.

Speaker 12 (34:32):
Why couldn't you directly just tell her about the guy
before you put.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Up the dress?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I did?

Speaker 3 (34:37):
But Charene, he is listening Sharena Shi and Sharena is
a lot of like she is big headed.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
She's not gonna listen.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
She's going to listen to her own instincts before she
listened to anything. So when she wasn't listening to you, well,
we sat down with Michelle before the show and helped.

Speaker 11 (34:55):
Her prepare a special videotape method for her friend Scherene.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Let's all take a look at that, Messa so cause
we see Charene watching it for the first time. The
Serene I feel like, oh, you're a big apology for
ripping up your wedding dress the day before the wedding.
I know that my actions cannot be forgotten, but I
really do wish she can forgive me.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
The reason why I did that is because the guy
you was.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Gonna marry was aligned.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Cheating conn artist, and I feel that I was doing
you a favor.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
But now I know or I did was hurt you,
and I never.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Meant to hurt you.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I love you like the sister, and I hope that
you can forgive me.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
Michelle, I don't know really what you did to Charine
dress you do regretta, don't she That's all, and now.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
She's heard your apology, but it's possible that she's still
too upset about what you did to forgive you for it.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
And if she feels that way, she won't be here.
We'll take a short break and when we come back,
we'll find out if Charene's here.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay, I could have looked in the mayor that dad
that boot far on laying on the top of my
head like that, and like they just took a little
varmit and just put it.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
He were just right, your mother love for here.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
It looks like a like a like a I don't
know what. It looks like a bad comb over with hair. Okay,
I don't even know who did that hair, but them
diamonds and sharp. I mean it's I mean it's like
got a you know you get side far side, father
is like pretty much right here side party way out.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
But your hair off.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
See that. Let you know I trusted my I trusted
my poof misters, I did. I told you my poof mister.
I called him at now they pooped my and I
got a poop mister team and so and I called
him up and they all said, yeah, girl, we're road
right with you with I was like, oh god, and
they are twenty six years old, and so don't even

(36:52):
say it shout I funny if.

Speaker 12 (36:54):
I say no, yes, it was it was.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
It was like I pay here, I can see it, like,
well they there, would you oh, twenty six years later?
I would have thought a few of them dropped there
just spin Philly. Okay, so uh that's what's her take?
Or this kick Stilly. I'm gonna do a little favor.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
And I'm gonna go to the winds dress bag.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I'm gonna cut the wooden dress.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
But what are you doing? Why? Like there's so many
ways to say, oh, don't marry him, don't do that,
but you gonna cut her dress?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
See that's see that that would be a fight. That
was the first time I saw her. I was been
a help he please. When she saw me, I'd be
taking off my wings, taking off my earrings and get
my vasoline out the twenty city ball. And by the
time she takes that jacket off, I know we'll take
my hand. She's taking her jack. Oh use it as
a And I'm not a fighter. I mean I've never

(37:59):
been a fight. I mean I would fight if I
had to. Uh, And my mom got in a lot
of trouble. And I thank God for my oldest sister
who would come out and and she was minising. She
was tall, she was a big girl. She had the
best legs and side. I'm like, how you get them
great legs and side? But nonetheless they would say, oh,
you know who sister that is? They call my sister and.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh none got to leave her alone.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
You're not that whole family crazy. You know, they're jump
on you and and go get them.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
They were living. I was gonna get my uncle, I
was gonna get my club. We gonna be.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
That would have been checking her to the woof shat.
I mean as a woman, I mean, and you thought
about this, this is this is really methodical. I mean,
I'm like, really, you plotted it. You know, you had
some scisors, so this you meant to do some damage.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
And to me, she's like growing up.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
It seemed like at the time she was doing it,
she didn't think she was either I'm doing my friend
a favorite, how you doing your friend to fire? Was
cut up? We'd dressed then before the way.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
She's like, yup, this is what I'm doing, and she's
going yep.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
And she she goes like she might be mad at
me for a little while, but you know, I know
what's best for her. So it was my decision to
make to let her know that she was making a
bad decision by marryings.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Did a little keeter, you know, and see all this.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Other kind of stuff she was calling off, you know,
talking about him. See this I understand. And women do
this to each other and it really does not make
it any sense. I mean, first of all, who can't
so who got and left her boss that she could
say take up on her shoulder? Oh look, I'm just fasted.

(39:42):
So now this is your girl, this is your future
wife girlfriend, and you find out from the future wife
that her girlfriend had cut up her wedding dress. As
the groom whistle drek head been i'd be oh, you said,
that's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
She's cut up that's the dress.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
What else would she do is she thinks that whatever?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
What if she thinks I'm cheating.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
If I'm not what you gonna cut my pires and
oftentimes I've seen women just make up stories to keep
the you know, to keep the crack crack machine flowing,
you know, because if he's paying attention to me, if
I keep telling him I had one kick, I knew
I won't call my girlfriend because I told her my girlfriend.
And you're not just stuck on stupid Paulson's ignorant parks.

(40:27):
Don't done like that because she did something stupid. She
went and slash to his tires because she thought he
had a girl, another woman in his car. Uh, he did.
He did have another woman in his car. It happened
to be his sister.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
You and he didn't have This wasn't no cheap car.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
This wasn't this one of that kind of car. To cars,
you a four hundred dollars more tire, you know you
gotta get I mean, he had to put She slashed
the tires on his car, and then she was une fit.
He wrote in lipsticked something very bogle on his side
of his car. Okay, but he said, didn't nobody know
that it was a nickname or something that she would.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Know that he would know, and she put it down
where he would know.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
It was her. I'm like okay to see that we
didn't have a lot of court shows back then, or
see she would have been taken to the woop shock
that had been one whooping she would have had to take. Okay,
see I began to go slam it on off foot.
Shut up, mother, and I told you, okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Welcome back. We were talking with Michelle Davis, who says
she was so determined to keep her friend Charene from
marrying Miss so Wrong that she went a little crazy.
And she went a lot crazy into some sisons to
Charene's bridal gown, and that day before the wedding just
cut the whole thing up and those the dresser's car
for good.

Speaker 7 (41:59):
Michelle host says, not too late to apologize.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
And repair the damage to their friendship, cause that drift
will not be pieced back together.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
You have to get my money back.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Willing to accept your apologies. Oh I am just so
I'll there you cut up, girlfriend. I had to do something.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, you didn't, and that wasn't shut up with the draft.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
How did you know if if the tables were time,
she would have did worse.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Now you'd have to pay for that drift.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I don't care what.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Anyway, if she's willing to accept your apology, she's.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
Gonna be standing on the other side of that door.
But be prepared, Michelle.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
You might have when you cut that dress up. You
might have cut her out of your life and really crushed.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Her, and she might not be there. But I was
laying off there. You understand?

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Are you ready to find out?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (42:45):
Okay, go take your place in front of the door.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
All right, Michelle, let's open the door and on the show.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I don't wonder if they was at the door or
not at the door, because I don't know which the
way my face is gonna go. I don't know that's
what that was A big hug. They might fight you
on the.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
She wants to say. I tell her what you wanted
to tell Michelle.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
I'm sorry I tortured the gown.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Could you forgive me? I mean, I can forgive you,
but I'll pay for it. You're gonna pay me like
six hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I'll make you one, Tay.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I mean, come on, why did you take it out
on the dress? You could have done something else. You
feel like, lock you in my room.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't care if you can out my mother and my.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Grandmother and all it.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I could have won that dress to nourice somebody else. Okay,
talking out the wardrobe, I mean, I'm angry at you.
Don't think I'm not. You're going to take every now
and this fellow, do you see him anymore?

Speaker 7 (44:18):
He is out of the pitture completely.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
She was right after that.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
I like hide a private investigator.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I found out all this stuff and he he's out of.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
My life completely.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Okay. So she cut up your wedding dress. So did
you get an engagement ring? Where is it? Man's you
a little jealous of your friend? Now?

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And being many of the drearried, No, I don't see
nobody trying to just persuade his dress. She I don't
have an older sister.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
You know.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
She's older than me.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
She's like my sister, you know. And you know she
went listen to me with so.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Much like I'm thick headed, Trust me, I'm thick headed.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
She wouldn't listen to me.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I told her Tom and Tom again.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
You know, I was thinking of things, and that's the
only way that I could see, you know, to do.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
You know what though, if she.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Had really wanted to marry him, so you must have
been thinking something she said was right, because if you
really wanted to marry him, she weig, and you would
have went there and blue jeans or a nightgown. Yeah,
but I GIFs, man, you should have listened to her
on the first place.

Speaker 8 (45:29):
You know what, even thought about maybe she had come
to truth.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You know, well, there's a whole circumstance of the way
she put it. You can see that chick have an attitude,
and she came to with that attitude.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I was like, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
hear it, you know, And I can't kind of understand
how she did it. But but you know, you have
forgiven her, and I kind of understand. You know, you're
being a little upset because but then again, you might
not have wanted to wear that dress that you got
for somebody with somebody see the dress. But he said,
you consult so you can make a better You're not that.

(46:03):
Please don't underestimate your talent though, She went, I am
glad that you said you were sorry.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
That was a pretty vicious thing to do.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
But sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do. When
that wouldn't be involved, and she loved you enough to
go that far. She was time to get married. I'll
buy a don't cut up anymore? Why that's what you do?
That by another drive? Thank you for saying you're s
my working then here, Thank.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You very much. You'll be right, Ben, I'm still I mean,
you know, left her heart that Sharin wanted to forgive
her sister, just like if it's like she said, never
underestimate the would never like you're paying me now, see

(46:57):
that would have been me. You please to tell me
all the time, want to be four million? My husband
got married. They tell me that all the time. You
know you're married him. He's just gonna get up and
leave you. You don't think he gonna stay with your
big budd and the way you talking, you know, as
loud as undisciplined as you are. He thought it was
you know, I stood up for myself and he thought
it was a strong woman and that's what he likes.

(47:17):
He I was like, okay, cool and he had one, two, three,
He got four sisters and his mother, so he was
around a lot of echiges so he knew. And then
I wanted to see if he could handle my family.
And I took him over there and he said, I said,
I'm gonna take.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
This right now.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
You know, we we out there and be third. I'm
telling you, I just want to So first time he
met my family, they just cussed him out. They were like,
why you got two last names? Why you kind of
person named a normal post?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I was said, and who you know you were too
old to be named.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
After the president. I was like, lord, here's the police
take the well. Because you know family will embarrass you
and have no problems, so why I could tell it.
I used to tell my girlfriends, you don't met with
me and my man whomever that was at the time,
but it was mostly for my husband. And I was like,
I don't care if you walk a buck necker down

(48:09):
the street on a horse like lady could die, but
don't you come and tell me nothing he did in
the streets. He will tell me. You know, I don't
need you because and there was always wanted take me.
I get that husband. She too sad, she too black,
she too big, she talked too much. I'm like, obviously
he like all of that. Yeah, for fifty two years
and they still ain't never had a cousin. I never

(48:30):
had a decent boyfriend, a decent man friend, always running
after somebody else's husband.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I'm like, I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Sloppy said, because I want him. That's gonna be me
and here and then you know, my family was saying,
it's just a matter of time. You're gonna ride it
out and then you're gonna get bored, and I was like,
it's not that kind of relationship because we got to
know each other. We were friends first and we became
dear friends, you know, And like I'm telling mama's time.

(49:00):
If y'll feel like you need to get up and leave,
don't do nothing crazy reb you can go if this
ain't nothing but stuff. And if you're not happy, Mike,
I want you happy now. I don't want you to be,
you know, thinking that you got to do everything because
you don't. And people do not sit down and talk
about what their life is. And that actually looks like
what Charene and whoever dude was that they never sat

(49:20):
down and talked about anything. And the fact that her
hurt that he forgave her girlfriend for cousin of her
wedding goods, that's big us because out of stielbit out
of it with some stuff. You gotta let go too,
because you don't want to crack the fast on me,
because that what you want. You just cut up, no fud.
I was saying nothing to her again, like I said,

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dressing and then walk with what And she already said
dude was out of her life. So that was a
good thing. But you don't know it's a good thing.
I'm just saying. Okay, okay, what's going on to the
next week?

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Okay, this next morning is called our teas here our
entire pregnancy.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Okay, I think I remember this one. I think God
remember Okay, let me get that might not because we
ask you of those Okay, yeah, because how do you
hid the pregnancy? Okay, go ahead on yeah, all right.
Do you remember these two parents where if I see him? Okay, bagey,

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that's a fuzzy picture. Okay, go ahead with the story.

Speaker 8 (50:22):
All right.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Trust well, let's bring out Darlayne May and Lenny Leonard
got five me.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Oh yes, sar, oh, this ain't no yarn.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Now your daughter justice that says to listen to what
you have to say. Letter, We'll find out if she
will apologize to you or not. So Darlaine, have you
and Lennie always had public.

Speaker 8 (50:48):
With no, She's I'm very good.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I was a very guitar, very very active in school,
very very respectful to adults.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
System way to.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Be around her, very good kids. And she just get
to to him and promoted to grades. She's her senior
year at sixteen, graduating at sixteen years old. A dumb okay,
but something had to happen. If this is a bright,
intelligent child, you seem like bright, intelligent, loving parents, you

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had to notice something going wrong with her. We noticed
that you said little things, what little thing did you
start start to know the thing?

Speaker 12 (51:29):
She was a She was an excellent student all the
way up through junior high.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
That's when that.

Speaker 12 (51:33):
Kind of stuff started.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
But then through high.

Speaker 12 (51:36):
School it would get to her not going to school
days at a time. Then when we'd go check on
her or get the paperwork from school, we would have
to put her on a thing where she would.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
Take a sheet to work to school and have each teacher.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Sign it you the class to make sure. And that
started to fall apart two and when that's all part
that her dad had leave and he got a transferred
to a job out of state and she was staying
with me, and she's been back and forth between both
of us. We are we're not together, but in parenting
we have always been together in Man Okay. And that's

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but she would stay with me and her dad would
come back.

Speaker 8 (52:16):
On and he come and stay with me and visited
her daughter, and you know, they would.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Do things so places. And one flight he came in,
you know, and I.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Looked at him and I said, you don't she just
don't look right to me. And he said, well, I
don't understand that he doesn't look like to me. And
I said, this could get up and pull your shirts
back back.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
Her dad had said, you know, I mean, you know,
this is.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
How she's built. She's not small frame.

Speaker 12 (52:43):
So you know, s well know that she was getting
older and maybe she's taking off the more my side
of the family, which we're more big moon on her
side of the family. Shoes they're sin and as a
trial she was sin. But then I'm thinking, you know
that's what father's mind out.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Well, found out that she's pregnant. Well we well that
was Friday, Saturday. We had a function to go through
it on time. We went at the function and when
I go back home, she says.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Mom, you know, I need to go to my aunt's
house because I have a church.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Agent on Sunday since eleven o'clock at night. And I said, no,
this because I'm not gonna take you.

Speaker 8 (53:15):
But something touch doesn't need to take her, and I said,
and I said, okay, I'll drop.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
You off at your aunt's house. So at six o'clock
in the morning, I get a telephone call. Her dad
had made it back in and he was on the
couset given the phone and it's probably a couple of
hours later, and somebody to start batting on the door.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And it was him.

Speaker 12 (53:29):
I thought he was still the house cou What happened
between there for before I came back knocking on her
door was my sister told me come down to the hospital,
come down right away.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
And I'm like, he ad, she you took her too, Okay, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 12 (53:44):
My sister, the aunt where my daughter was singing in
the choir for your church and all that, and so
she's like, come come down right away.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So I just get up and I rushed to the hospital.

Speaker 12 (53:54):
I get down there, my sister's all emotional, broke up,
and I'm like, what happened is my daughter, all right,
that was an accident. What what She's like, just come
come on, come on, And we're walking through the hallways
and then we're getting all my tell me what's wrong.
She's like, just your daughter's in there, just because in there.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
And I look up and it's in.

Speaker 12 (54:12):
The maternity sign, you know, the sign for the maternity ward.
And I go in there and my daughter's in there
on the table and the doctors are talking to her,
and then just right there and all just you know,
I'm like, what's going on? And they said, your daughter's
like seven eight months pregnant, and.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
We're just.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
I'm still at I'm still at home, you know.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
So he comes back to pick me up.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
That's when I go back to get her.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
He picked me up and he said, get yours.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
You gotta getdress right down.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
And so we're going to I mean, I got tract
and I'm listening. I thought there was something wrong with
one of his family members. So all the way that
we're driving to the hospital, you know, I said, you know,
don't worry. Your mom could have been fine. Don't worry.
And I'm praying, you know, the name of Buggins's gonna
be fine. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
We'll get to the hospital.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
And he'sin thirteen. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
My mother's got in the hospital just again. I said,
oh my god, she's in a car accident. Tell me
on the way that the ship to you know, to
the to the church event. She said, in a carcident.
Tell me what was a par accident? It's nothing spoken.
She says, no, day Lan, she's getting ready to have
a baby. And I said she wasn't pregnant. Last wait
a minute, okay, okay, that's when you said Friday you

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had to pull her shoulder up. And then this is Sunday, Sundays,
like the same weekend.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
What's the same weekend?

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Weekend? She didn't look to me.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
As a matter of fact, I'm saying, Jessica, what's wrong
with me?

Speaker 12 (55:31):
And we never went to a team because her mother was.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Kind of saying that you've been having so it's kind.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
Of leading towards there and I and I said, jesse
you could.

Speaker 12 (55:39):
Talk to me anytime if you have just let us know,
we can go, you know, get some help, check it out,
let you talk to somebody whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
They're like, no, Dad, No, I have never had and
that's on my mind.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
And then for with in a forty eight hour period.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
Here and we were like, oh my god, and we
just couldn't I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
I looked at it. When I got to the hospital,
I made it to the inside.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Of the room where she was at.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I stared, and I mean I knocked me off my knees,
that went straight to the floor.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
And just started to scream.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I mean it heard it.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
I mean that was that was painful. That was really painful.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
So what do you want to say to her today? Well,
there's so much that she's doing with the baby. I
want her to parent responsible, be a responsible parent, to
come to us, be honest with us. We can get
over this, but the running away and leaving the baby.
She left the baby with her dad for a month
and we didn't know where she was at four months.

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We have to go to work and drop the baby
off at school, and Darlin and I have to go
to work, and I needed to watch the baby.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
I mean, I saw this man just being.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Over backwards, you know, to do anything we do with
her done? Lenny, what do you want someone?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
What was basically, you know, I would like an apology
from her.

Speaker 12 (56:53):
From what she's done in the past and the things
she's done just lately. But lord forward and be the
responsible young lady. I know you were raised to be
and be the responsible mother.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I know you have it in you to do that.
You know she loves her baby.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
When you see a man of rat, they have a
deep love for one.

Speaker 12 (57:14):
Another, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
But then just her probably youngness of you know, being
young and having that response be responsible.

Speaker 12 (57:24):
And hers week because I was responsible with her.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You know, I was a man raising a daughter making
you know I will express.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Her, you know, as well or better than you.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
That's her parents only dream is your parents, does your
child does then what she did? And that's all I asked.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
But Darline and Lenny, Jessica's heard. Oh, you've had to say.
We're taking a break and when we come back, we'll
find out if she'll apologize or not. We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Leave that pain, right did?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I have seen the O and the over in my
neighborhood and my family, and people think that you can't
hide the pregnancy. Oh yes you can if you know
what you're doing or you don't want anybody to know.
I told her the story of what one of my
girlfriends we grew up with. We were sitting on the

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porch playing jacks. That's how young we are. We're playing
jacks and she was sitting on the on the sitting
on the step with us and were playing jacks on
the We're doing our thing, right. Okay, stop that, let's
start over, because well I can start. I think I
got to stop this and us we keep going, okay, okay,

(58:38):
go ahead, up, Okay, you can up over with you. Yeah, no, no,
I won't. I'm gonna turn this off when they go off,
but we can. Let's wrap this upright, Okay, I'm trying
to be on sync with it. Okay, I'm ready. Good

(58:59):
ahead player the uh.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
What welcome back? When he was Darny May and Lenny Leonard.
They say their teenage daughter Jessica hid a pregnancy, ran away,
and the list goes on. They have had it and
they want her to apologize. Darling and Minnie go take
the places in front of the door. All right, Darling

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and Minnie lifts open that door.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
He better had it anywhere the irons are crossed like that,