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November 23, 2024 60 mins
Shaq C and Mother Love share  their love for this Forgive or Forget that is so viable today. They share the passion, the heartbreak, and the power of forgiveness and the strength to say I will forget the pain of this relationship and for of these guests.  Shaq C a loyal, devoted fan of Mother Love, the original host of the syndicated daytime talk show, Forgive or Forget. This young man has dedicated his time, energy and effort in finding episodes of the show to share with you. Mother Love is filled with tears and joy that he watched the show with his elders when was eight yrs old. As an adult, he made it his business to reach out to her and ask her what happened to the show, why was she not there everyday loving on her "Babies!" Why there was never a logical reason for her to have been replaced.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello side bad we did even more fabulous Mother loves
coming to your life and the living color, the handsome
fether there and pastimates to Shack. See how you doing, Shaq?
What's doing with you?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I love, mother Love, I'm doing good.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am doing well. I'm glad to be up above
the ground, to be honest with you. You know, the
I'm I'm easy, I said to I'm easy. I'm not
cheap though not woman and I I do cheap and
I do cheap and the only time I do cheap
is when it's cheap and tawdry sex.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And it must be cheap and tawdry. Oh real.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh see, you people think it life way too serious?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know. You gotta know what what youlimity is.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And I got lower your lane is, you know, and
stay in it. And at this point in our life
us just thinking about it. Where else I be like, Okay,
that's enough. That thought was hold on, let me go,
A hand fixed on my eave. Oh lord, I can't
take it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
But nonetheless, we're here on Saturday, five pm Specific time,
eight o'clock Eastern time with Sack c who loves to
come up and duck and our love teeth. He went
and got all these videos and from forgive or forget it,
and people.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Are still saying, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Know, what happened to it? Listen how this this is
my favorite one? Well, how comes you running on TV?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Mother Dove?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm like, why you been here digging with me?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
This is a business. We need TV anymore? Not anymore?
You could just you could do your own thing by
yourself and we don't have to be beholding to the SCC,
you know. So that's what I'm saying. Gotta be cheeth
and TALKI talk to so we.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We we reminisced on on Saturday evenings, you know, get
a little life, be in some brevity and sometimes just
listen to people go through all kinds of changes. And
this was like from twenty two decades ago, and it's
still relevant today because people we obviously don't learn from
our mistakes, you know, we.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Sid got no more, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So what Jack does you tell them what you do?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
I recorded all these episodes.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
And I told the other love, I never tell her what.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Episodes I picked, and we just.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Go through them together and we watch them together. So
many these episodes I haven't watched in a while too. Okay,
like I'm watching them for the first time to.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So, who do you have one tap today? And just
so y'all know, I do have a prom did that
you know?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
And I've learned and not put so much makeup on
my face when I talk to you, because it'll be
I have an adas, I will an eyelashes because of
the A And one time the Allies was over my
fore head and I'm like, wait, a sute. I'm watching it, like,
oh my goodness, this is pretty good. I remember when
we were actually doing it in New York and I
would watch the show as a as a viewer because

(02:49):
I would didn't want to do a program that I
wouldn't want to sit down and watch that. I wouldn't
want my mother, my kids, or my pastor. And I
don't want that I had, you.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Know, I had to be all righte with it, and when.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It got crazy, I was like, okay, y'all, we need
to get yourself together and to see it now. And
when I always call them kids, when the kids that
grew up with me, I see them now, and.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some of them I used to drive their school buses and.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
They go, hey, that bust of them, like I am
no longer the bus gud, you do understand, Oh, You're
gonna always be my bus ride. Because kids will keep you.
They keep you first, they will keep you going all
the time. And I remember I told you about these little.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Us, this beautiful family. I mean, they were just a
very attractive family. It was a mother. She had about
seven or eight kids. He had two cents of twins,
twin identical twin boys and identical twin girls. And I
can hear them, you know, I love it when they
talk about me, like I can't hear my love, my love.

(03:50):
And she said.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
One of the twin girls says, mother, love is a dinosaur,
and the other little girl said, no, she's a unicorn.
You could have bothered me for a quurse. I mean,
I gave up the whole empire. I mean it was
just you never know what they're looking at. And I
asked her what was a dinosaur and the lidir said
something that's old. I said, I'm not a something, I'm

(04:12):
a somebody and just to watch our place.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
And she was like, yeah, it's kind of make sense.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And they were just cool and their mother was very gracious.
And when we got and we were in Costa, I
told you man, my husband dated inn pasta.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's what we do. We go on Saturday to eat
the discuits and the kits.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's what we do.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
You'll do the pre sampled.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh yeah, we said we're back up free sampling. Uh so,
what what's going on now?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Tell us what we're doing today?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Who you got for us?

Speaker 7 (04:40):
Well, this is a this is an episode that you
guys did a few times where people would come on
the show who already came on the show and they've
all got an empty door, but they just started to
come back on the store and try again.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
So these are some people who are already on the
show to see they could try again.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, this will be very interesting. I'm ready. Are you ready?

Speaker 8 (05:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Hello?

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Everyone, welcome to forgive or forget.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, you wanted it and you got it.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Often our most talked.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
About guests are the ones who go away unforgiven. He
can the door at the Black Christien.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
However you praise it.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Many of you have contact with us, I say to
update you on what happened to our guess after the show.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
Well, today's the day.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Well bringing back the most unforgettable of the unforgiven. How
could anyone forget our first step, jose Alicia.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
Take you look. The last time I was on the show,
I made my desires pretty y'all.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Betther, How'm any times square to tell the city.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
You know, to tell the whole world that I love Mike.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Mindset.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Look, I ain't got a great tattooed on my arm.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
For my time.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
I ask you for my pace, Mike, I love you.
Why won't you love me?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Back away me?

Speaker 9 (06:30):
I want you, but I won't give up mine. I
love you.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I'm here today and I brought you all this.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Way to tell you that I love you.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
That I love you, and I want you to be
with me, not nobody else with me.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
And I'm hoping that today before I leave, I hope
you walk through that door.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, thanks, send and.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Go the way.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I hope.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
All right, Hosey, you came all this way, Let's open
that door.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
I made a choice.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I said to myself, regard it how much hurts me.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
This is my last option to bring them all the
way to New York. And I'm going home. And now, Tank,
I just want to let you know that I'm.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Not coming through this door, only just to let you
know I don't want to risk our friendship, which I
think we have. I don't want to risk it over
a relationship right now.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Well, I'm bad because Mike is not over until I
say it's old Mike.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I love you, Mike coming out, I love you.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
I'll never give up. I want to talk to her
and oh, day back to day oday, Come on up.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
I want you to know America has fallen in love
with you, and they all want to know what has
been going on since you and Mike walked away from
this show and he's left.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Get to doing well.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
I'm gonna be honest to do my mother love ever
since I got back after the show, it was cool,
we threw back and everything seemed okay. But when we
got back, we got sexually intimate again.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Yes, we got sexually intimate again.

Speaker 9 (08:21):
And I got to see him once.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
In a while, you know, here and there. And as
a matter of fact, about last week he sat by
my house. Well, me being arrogant and dumb, he needed
some money, so I gave it to him, being the
sugar daddy.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
That he caused me, you know, so I gave it
to him.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
So now I'm doing a clothing at the end of
November on my house and he's supposed to.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Be moving in with me now today.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Wait, hold on, because we've got to hear all of this.
Hose should I sit down with them?

Speaker 10 (08:55):
Wait a minute?

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Was because young man? No, no, just hold my hand.
Okay with me with what are you doing now after
the closing of your home?

Speaker 9 (09:06):
Well, he wants to move in with me, and.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
I'm gonna let him. Got but a bout mother love,
but mother love. But I'm here again today.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
And today is gonna be the last job because you
know what, when I get back home, if you don't
gonna walk through that door, I got somebody ready to
remove my his name.

Speaker 10 (09:26):
Off my bid.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
You even have the chat, you take it on this
So wait a minute, what are you telling me?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
You go back to your intimate with him when you said, okay,
if he's not gonna.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
Be my friend, okay, we can we can't be lovers.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Okay, fine, you were cool with that. Well, so now
you go back you're telling me that you were intimate
and then and so are you trying to find out
if he said just wants to be your friend or
your seen well you known what on the last show
he said, Well, if y'all saw the last show, he
said that he could see his friend as a forever.
But when I understand me, the best of friends become

(10:03):
the best lovers.

Speaker 9 (10:04):
And you know what, I'm not only a best friend.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
You need to give me something up already.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
So that say that said, okay, now, okay, I'm just
trying to get this clear because I don't want to
get any mixed signals.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
Is that what you think? Mike has given you mixed signals?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
And he's saying, okay, I can love you when I need.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Something, when I want to be close to he when
I need some money, but I'm still not going to
be your main person, you know when I know the
mixed singles are these signals. But it's cool, it's real
cool because.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
You know what, I let myself go for that.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
But you know what, I'm back here again because of
you and because of everybody that I saw me and
felt my pain.

Speaker 9 (10:40):
Because of that.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
I go to the club Wive performance and people come
up to me and they tell me.

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Oh, were you on the Mother Loves?

Speaker 9 (10:45):
And I said yes.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
You know, I thought to a pain, I said didn't
fit it when I was up in that door, A.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
No, that was all part of your no.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Well, even though you got a right hard about it.
Your heart was okay, Well now you got number good Jose.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
And Mike, right now, straight on how you feel it?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
What you want to day?

Speaker 9 (11:10):
No, right here all night. I brought you all this
way and I'm letting you.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Know right now that if you don't come through that
door today could be with me.

Speaker 9 (11:19):
When I get back home.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Your name's coming off with me and said that about
you're moving in with me.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
No, there's no more mean you okay, because you know
well coming to the Mother Loved so I saw many
plenty of people.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
You know, well, they can give me what you can
give me.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Mike.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yes, Mike, Mike, you know how your friend feels. You
take a moment to think about what you want from
your relationship with Jose.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
You just think about it, what you really want and
what you're willing.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
To get here. No, Hosey, you know how this works,
and you see it happen once before. What if my
sesiness walking spend time?

Speaker 10 (12:11):
You know why?

Speaker 5 (12:12):
One time I saw your show a girl then forget
her sister.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
And she stood back there, but later on she ran
out through that black curtain. But you know why, I
ain't even trying to.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Run back in that black curtainause do you know why
I'll stay.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Here with fights Andy and take it the way I
got to take it back a while? What do you
think before?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I feel like I was in the episode of E R.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Just so from one wall to the other wall. I
love him, like you know, I'm willing to say this
all out in public, all and to all the people,
and I'm gonna do it again. I mean, I don't
know if he's a guton for punishment, I don't know.
I don't know. You know, when you go through all
of that, you gotta be more, you know, something positive

(12:58):
to come out of that. And I'm like, uh see,
that's how you don't.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Play with people's emotions.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
You can't play with that right you know you could
because this will come.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
And bite you on the buttop multiple times.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
So you can't expect people to do what you want
to do just because you're you're asking them. You can't
expect them to do to go to be at your
back and call I don't know, it just seemed like.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
You're well see he said, he said.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh, they said, Mike cast him his sugar daddy, you know,
and you you and you're gonna be the sugar daddy.
You're giving him money, but you're.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Sending I think he's sending too many mixed messages. I
mean I I think you wouldn't have to think about
what that, what's that? What that's gonna cost?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Because you know, I don't want to be I want
to be prejudgment but you know I'm prejudgment. Okay, My
mother loves shot.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
How you both feeling to night? I'm filling with my hands.
You still look a beautiful but the left.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Thank you watching you every time day night. We love you, Babby,
thank you so much for participating. Because okay, now let's
see what jose and Mike is gonna stop.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
All right, jose Alicia, let's start this one more time.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Open that door.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
And okay, jose k is uh.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Let's talk to Mike.

Speaker 9 (14:35):
Mike, you've done this.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
To him twice. Tell him why, tell him why.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
It's funny how he could say that we have, we're
getting we're moving in together. It's kind of funny how
all this is coming out right now.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
This is news to me.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
It's news that we did something after the show. That's
something new. Maybe that's in your head. You know what,
you crossed the lines? You know what no, no, no, no,
you know what.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Let me tell you some you know what. Don't put
up a proper because you.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Know why many people are walking back into tigo.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Let me tell you song.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
I know you ain't with me because I'm fack, But
you know.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
What's something I got stuff for you, you know what
for because you know what that takes you, all that
you think, you all that.

Speaker 10 (15:15):
You know I don't get me, so by good why
I'm telling you that you hold on, I'm got to
keep that down.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
Hold on, just hold on, everybody, hold on.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Wait a minute, just a minute, Michael, you telling us
the whole day is sitting out.

Speaker 9 (15:40):
Here making this up.

Speaker 11 (15:41):
Him of all people should not be saying that I
think I feel good about myself. Him of all people
to know that I don't feel good about myself. Okay,
And first of all, I don't think I look good.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
I have a lot of a lot of low self
esteem about myself. Okay. I thought you were my friend. Okay,
this is not a friend. This is not what you
call a friend himself at home.

Speaker 10 (16:05):
I know you don't work for me, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Let me try to something work right, back a Hossted, honey,
because you know what, Daddy, I'm not no more.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Who he was getting ribby.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
He don't walk off.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
They just both wanted to be right.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
They both wanted to be right.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And when you start and that just with the line
of communication open because I'm writing what I'm saying and
you have to and he he opened up with thing
he was to have him self esteem issues. He didn't
feel good about himself. Listen, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
I just feel like he was just putting off for
the whole thing, putting off for the audience a little.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Bit, a lot of it, not a little bit, that
is a lot of them. And they were we were
all feeding into that, and we were egging him on.
You know when I look back at it and restless
select But that's what he wanted.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
He just what he wanted us to be right. He
wanted us and see how they love mother love.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Here before him got humiliated and I'm going to take
a chat and go again.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
And the same thing.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Would you have to be humiliate it in a situation
like that, No, like.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Means know sometimes.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Fan and I'm like you said that, I want you
at my back and call okay. So that's not gonna
be worked. That we are both at each other's back
and call. That's called a relationship.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
And you'll need on other people. And you don't know
what somebody is going through. You really don't, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
And he Mike seemed really upset.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
That he got up and walked off. So what the
hell they're doing now? Yeah? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, what's what's going on next?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Lord, see you be coming up with some stuff he
was doing.

Speaker 11 (18:02):
The former guests whose first appearances on our show ended
with empty doors.

Speaker 9 (18:06):
See if you.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Remember Ada Dove and her daughter in law Rachel, and
I've tried to love you and.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
He treated me like crep. Uh, you blame the.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Crime your son has committed on uh, you know, and
he did quite blame me.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
That's my daughter in law, Rachel.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
I brought her here to the man and apology.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
She does not care.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
She is a self centered individual, evil person.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
She thought that she married a.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Family's money, but she didn't want to be part of
his life and pleaded allowing me to see my grandchildren
above everything else. Let me see my grandchildren. Rachel has
done nothing but but my family.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
The pure hell. I regret the fact that I allowed
my son to marry this lady.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
At seventeen years old.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
I owed you one to go on his wishes.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Because she was pregnant. And now I find out just
the other day, my quintfrienders, I will not give the name,
that it may not even be my granddaughter, and that
so I didn't get what I wanted, and things have
gotten worse. But today I'm back, and this time that
the facts speaks in themself.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
At uh.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
We have your daughter in law, Rachel joining us backstage.
Tell us what's been going on since? To kill so
to sern them have the love? Things have gotten worse.
I was tart with a teleshout communication. I want I
would set up Saturday to court.

Speaker 9 (19:28):
She has no sense and so up.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Because the second time I've been arrested and no sense.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
What minute is that like?

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Telephone her landom of their family?

Speaker 9 (19:36):
Yes, my love, what do you.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Want from her today? If things have gotten worse?

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Children?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
None?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Mother loved.

Speaker 9 (19:42):
Since the show, I've still not seen children. I can't
I don't get scanned. They can't call me. They don't
call me.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
She makes no effort, mother, father, my son, has not
seen the children. She makes no arrangements for anyone to
take child and see the father. So at this point
in time, like I said on the other show, it's
not so, where does any of his children belong to me?

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Because at one time I thought one didn't belong to me.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
So now you're questioning me the paternity if you don't
even think that they're your grandchildren anymore, Well, I still do.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
I think maybe one of them theirs, but I always
thought that one wasn't.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
But at the same token, I would love from Toult
being my grandchildren.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
I feel over my grandchildren. I always went into my
life and I've been denied.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Well, let's talk to Rachel. Rachel, this whole big thing
was started because you are.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Married to her son.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Now he doubts that these are her grandchildren?

Speaker 9 (20:36):
Does he have any reasons to doubt?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
There is like a fifty percent hands set My daughter
is not his and there the pants said my son's not.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
But he knew going in.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
He just said that was the sign of the mas life,
and he knew and it.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Was because he never come out in the day.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
That's not true.

Speaker 10 (20:52):
That is the reason why.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
Fine, how do you know you got there? You think
you want not any he said, well, you al any.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Other daughters is under his request his want. I did that,
I said, I hear you. We know you love you
had the held a latter what people peron whatever, his
whole nine. But you feel like, wait just a minute,
hold on for a.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
Minute, and do you feel like that they got you
to sign for.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Him because you had decided for him to get mad
father level because he was under age, and you feel
that you signed for Waiteil and your son to get married.
And he said he was being deceitful because you did
it because she was pregnant and.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Now she might not have been pregnant by your son.
That's what you say. No my love for him saying
she said, it's something that the.

Speaker 9 (21:36):
Child was my son. Boy, she told me that.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
So you signed the papers for him to be married
because I thought that was the right thing to do.
My son asked me this because of the way they
He said he wanted to sit up for.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Just because when he.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
Got the little part to do today and you deny him.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
And that is where it's at. There is no whole life.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
While I have a foul, but I hadn't that because
you know, he called, I don't want my word and
you're called the phone back a way. Don't had a
course still in jail, Ye have to is conning home
to mother.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yep, we gotta take a break, you know, we would
take this break.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
But you know, there's so much more to this story.
When we come back, the patunity test results will reveal that.

Speaker 11 (22:15):
Adam was white to suspect that her father is not
the father of racer's children.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
You stay right there, we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh see, I forgot what we did a show like
that you are not the father? I mean, how do
you just not know?

Speaker 5 (22:33):
You know?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
And we've seen this happen time and time again. Were
disruptive and families, you.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Know, and.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
People they're so selfish.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, if there's a fifty fifty shot that this
is not your husband's child. So you learned, he's learned,
everybody learned. Because when does the twoth come out?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You got to go get a praternity test and they
put all your business out here on from street on, Jim.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
You just gotta get it out.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You just gotta get it out.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
And this is another couple. They just want to be right,
I'm telling you. And then her in that and that yelling,
well she said, well, he knew it was the fifty
fifty chances might not be his child. And we know
you know, and you know what how you can always
tear from the see look at their feet, but always

(23:27):
hear about the seat.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Look at the baby's seat. That's big baby feet and
you and when and.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
When babies are born, a lot of them are born
with you know, bury fair skin. But you can sit
around the edges of their and the tips of their ears.
Were they gonna be chocolate like me? I've seen it.
So she's summon to you and this is this is
your mother and your mother and your mother and your
and your wife, and they screaming and hollering what kind

(23:54):
of how dynamics that he has between the two of them?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
He would be my concern?

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And why use your children a son?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Huh?

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah, I remember why he is a stepand up and saying, hey,
he's not righting over there.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Let's find out where.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Honest, I don't know. See, people don't.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Undertake you do not play with people feelings in their emotions.
And you cannot make an informed decision on the line
that right there throws without the window. Okay, let's see
what they what they said Ray children.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Her mother in law seem a little premilied because we're
following up with some of our most memorable deaths, the one.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Who left with the empty door, and the Dove and
her daughter in law.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Waitchel's family feud is still lazy and is.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
In full swang. Now Anna even doubts that her son
is the.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Father of Waitael's children. But the praternity test is about
to settle that once and for all, because I have
the results.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Right here in the taxing moment. You ready for this?
It's not love, I am.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
It's been a long time coming.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Oh oh, here we go.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
The paternity test shows that Charles Dove is not the fob.
Wait a minute, He is not the father of Angelina,
but he is Charles Junion's father. Quite as sick of that.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Charles dev is not the father.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Of Angelina Dove. This test is ninety nine point seven
percent accurate and will hold up in a court of law.
Based on testing result of team from analysis of nine
different DNA pros, the probability of him being Angelina's father
is zero zero point.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
It is zero point zero zero zero here is zero's zero.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
There is no test that he is Angelina's father. Now
Charles Dove is the father of Charles Junior, that is
your grandson, Anna.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
And she has none test one there.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Now they're not in love.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, it's an accurate, says Rachel.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
I'm talking to well Burn the middle.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Let me say the horse fall.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
You know, under the under the nine different DNA probe,
the probability of your son being the father of your
grandson is ninety nine point ninety ninety six percent. She
has never been a part of Bubby's wife from never never,
you don't like you know from Bubby lets people long

(26:27):
and over here with my grand son talk, people hanging
about him, the whole head, his everything.

Speaker 9 (26:32):
So you listen to father, will you? Says Lesson.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
I'll tell you why I'm not a lovesile.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
I would see my plans.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I see there.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
You know I won't get my.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
Trandparents wife because I have grandparents, friends, how I've got
a nap.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's something.

Speaker 9 (26:59):
You can said, you want to just kind of now
take it now take it to the psel.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
I thought, I want your band pas is back, and
you knew the.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Ads leader was a fifty sixty.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Tap No he was.

Speaker 9 (27:10):
You don't want any hard and I didn't want to
believe that.

Speaker 10 (27:16):
And I didn't want to hear your daughter, lady.

Speaker 9 (27:18):
Son, that's what want.

Speaker 10 (27:19):
I don't want to hurt.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yours county's handicap. Wait, that's why you didn't want him
video pay your vandam caught. It worked hot it because
you're starting like your mother.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
You can do what to me to say you stay
on it?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
You so psychotic.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
I'm gonna start. Yes the moment.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
We got a few questions in the comments.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
I'm sure I just have to say to the girl.

Speaker 12 (27:48):
With the blind hair that Rachel Rachel, honestly little fights
to cut pigs.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
I was like, hey, I'm not gonna do my plan
but you because that's just the set he he he
had to pay. There is Delena dirty right, so you
had another child?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
My never man so now under my son's name, he says,
Clail since seven out and becomes pire. Hey, hey, listen,
we're dealing with this still here. We got enough on
our plate with you too good this man ready too.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I want to know did you know it.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Was the fifty fifty chance that your husband was in third?

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Two things fall by my oldest daughter before my little
morgan o lord son.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Yeah, me and him both years, you know, fifty fifty
cans he wanted and mother Lam would not start that
out to.

Speaker 9 (28:37):
Hear married he had that was heard before Angelena. He
wasn't even there dead.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
She's like fourteen fifty out pregnant.

Speaker 10 (28:45):
My god, you're not pregnant me.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
We wasn't it today? Okay, lying Landa that you said
to by work, there's.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
Gone bathy my way there you know doing he's stills
in my heart to the're not gonna forgive.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
You of all of those everything out under my camily.

Speaker 9 (28:57):
He thinks you do it. He was out and last
Johnny and you know I want that it's going to
break one. But wait, you like, excuse me, thank you?

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yes, I had Christy Fred that's break them?

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Are you really as your husband now?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
He's been locked up for like nine years while you
killing part of it and it yeah, ver I breaked
them all by my nother all night.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
That I don't talking about you know what?

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Wait stop right there, Yes, all I hear from both
the years you get you get.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
Year wait for you just say.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Because I recollect you being here the last time and
I don't remember what he's saying to us.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
It's a fifty fifty tent that my husband might not
be my son's father. Wait a minute, just a minute.
We did what we thought would be the best thing.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
To try to help you all solve this. Angelina is
not his granddaughter. Yeah, but you why you're thanking God?
You think to day God, you hope Tom is her grandson.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
And I want to have the white to be involved
with with one.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
I don't want me to.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
No, I'm not Rachel.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
No, I'm not gonna keep asking to be quiet.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Appreciate you coming back.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
The second time.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
We'll be black back at we'll be white back.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
See, they're not looking for a solution.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
And down the road, and and what I do I
have to learn to say?

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Do you just want to vent?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Or do you are you looking for a solution? Are
you looking for a way to make this, you know,
relationship at least at the very least palatable, because you
are have family members. You know, they don't want to,
you know, solving is she They just want to be
screaming her the kind of stuff that will give you
a stroke by the time you're forty five years old,
you know, because all you want to do is then

(31:06):
I want you to see my pain. I want you
to know how much I'm hurting. Okay, now you're just
gonna keep swimming. Holler. You're gonna see your kid.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
You're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Your kids listening to y'all streaming holler at each other.
You know, their daddy is in prison. The grandmother saying
that the mother is psychotic. You know, both of them
got some kind of issues going on, and they don't
even want to deal with that part, you know, because
they the mother was trying that animal, was trying to
say that races was the reason why her son was
in jail. You know, it's it's just so many different

(31:38):
you know, strings and things to pull in so many
different layers that they don't even want to stop and get.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
To what the real group is. I want to be right, okay,
do you want to be right?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Or do you want to live well and in peace?
And see that's too much chaos.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You know, thats just entell you too. That takes too
much energy to be that angry.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh the time, and people can.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Hold good this forever.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Now, this was twenty six years ago, so her kids
are like good.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
And grown now. So and I'm wondering if they were
able to get through that.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I hope they were, because that was just a whole
lot of crazy right there. That was just a whole
lot of I just want to be right. Well, sometimes
you just got to look how much crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That you're gonna let this go for just you.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I'm tired already. Oh lord, seem that takes a lot
of energy.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
See, that's what I asked, that you want a solution
that you just want to vent. I'm gonna let you vent. Okay,
that's enough for that. We'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
That's it. That's all.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Let's talk. Let's talk it in that one.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
All right, Well, honor you amazin checking back in with
our most unforgettable guests whose loved ones sent them home unforgiven.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
You might remember this next guest.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Oh I know, I do do.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
Lost time I was here.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I actually like a big yerse. I'm gonna tell you something.
I think you are sytemonious self life's arrogant individuals.

Speaker 9 (33:10):
Because he blood do not give you and any.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Other brother or sister, or mother or father.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Carse blunt to mess up with somebody just because they're
in your family. I had done some pretty rotten things
to my sister as a toddler.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Around the age of three.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
I remember we.

Speaker 12 (33:29):
Had like real tall oak trees where I'm from, and
he's leave me hanging in the trees and it would
be like incredible heights. He'd leave me in a closet,
locked up for hours, nothing to eat. He just came
in totally enraged.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
My son was about a year when this occurred.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
He came in and just kicked us out.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
I tried to apologize, but I just got myself in
more trouble.

Speaker 12 (34:03):
How do you expect for me to really just come
on stage now and we'll give me a great, big cougin,
just wipe everything away. She probably felt like you could
have been a better brother to.

Speaker 9 (34:12):
Her, but she'd have torn her. You have to try
to pull you put her baby out here.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
I am back at the door this time when it opens.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
I hope my sister's standing there now. That was a
very southern Douglas Webster and his sister, Julia Bridster. Douglas
is back with us today.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
Douglas come out here.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I mean, he's got a boom.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Where did they get out there?

Speaker 6 (34:40):
That there's all the good Douglas that you're getting mood?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
It's not Douglas, tell us what's happened with you?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
And your sister says.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Sis them all right, First, I want to say, mother,
love you.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
You went straight off to her, and.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
You know what, I'm not gonna hold my hair down
because you know I should have been sending on your seat,
y'all right.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
And then but you know, I want to say that,
you know, with what you said.

Speaker 11 (35:05):
Me being self righteous, arrogant, and I was being that
stubborn and everything else, but you know, listening to you.
And once I got back to California and I had
the opportunity to look at the show and really see
myself and see.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
What I was doing, where I was being wrong and stop.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
And it helped me to realize that.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
The world does not revolve around Douglass.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
So now have the said all that, how have you changed?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
I've changed tremendously.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
And another thing that helped me to change, you know,
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Realize that so many people watch your show. But I
went to the supermarket and one of the clerks I
was walking.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I walked in the door and I.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Noticed him staring at me, and every hour I went down,
he went down. And I was like, I hope the
brother don't think I'm trying to steal. And sooner or
later he walked up to me. He said, once you're
on the Mother Love Show and say yes. He said,
I don't like you.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
You re not to come half seting with right.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Well, Douglas, we contacted your sister, Julia.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Let's see if she decided to be behind the door
this time for you.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Go over to that door.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
And Douglas left.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh, I was just saying, I was trying to peep
up under the door to see if I could tell.
I don't know what made me.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Think I could do that.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
From that door again, I I, Julia, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (37:02):
So this is better? Yeah, there's a major improvement.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Well, but so do me.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
What's me going on? Jusus, Jill, what's been going on?

Speaker 6 (37:11):
I got a cu someone call from 'em a few
days after our sell air showing us on there.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
And he wanted to come over and speak to us.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
I mean, speak to me.

Speaker 12 (37:19):
My son was there, but he wanted to speak to
me about calling the truth and making teeth and getting
to know each other and building from the beginning to
learn about each other, learn everything.

Speaker 9 (37:31):
About me, because he really didn't.

Speaker 12 (37:32):
Know anything about me, nothing simple like my favorite color
or my favorite food, or what I disliked or my personality.
So we talked a lot upon those lines and really
going to the basics and learning about each other to
build a relationship because we never had one.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
So how's it going? It's is it going pretty good?

Speaker 9 (37:50):
Or it's going good?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
It did?

Speaker 10 (38:01):
It was, I'm this it her? You going well?

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Worland.

Speaker 12 (38:05):
I don't want him to sit up and sugar coat everything, cause.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Like you know me, I have our little bumpy ropes.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
So let's be real about everywhere.

Speaker 12 (38:15):
Yeh.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
And it was as much as you were being real,
you are making progress though, Yeah, we are, definitely And
then you blae it you and he said he build
a we a positive relationship.

Speaker 12 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Well, then I pointed out was that we just.

Speaker 12 (38:28):
Need to put all fulishness behind us because we are
blood related and you know, it's really close.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
See, you never know if you're gonna be here tomorrow
or not that, so in you to put everything inside
and be a real person.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
One thing I've learned I have to say, and all
honestly does was he seemed like a different person.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Yeah, you seem like that You've.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Opened up your heart and you're willing to at least try,
and that's what.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
I asked for everybody. You, Well, that's I'm a good thing, Julia.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
You're never unestimate the power of.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
That's of our own back up white shirt. See we
when we work on it, and relationships are work and
especially you know when we grew all of my brothers
and sisters, we all grew up together.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
We were all teenagers at the same time, and it
was a seven year or this difference between my older
sister and my younger sister and six of us.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And that were six of us and wanted to know
each other, you know, and they didn't want to get
and you do a lot of times your your family
and friends. Your family will think, well, you're my brother,
you my sister. I could talk to you any kind
of way, I could treat you any kind of way.
And I was like, uh, that doesn't make a lot
of sense. Would you want me calling you out your

(39:57):
name all the time? One of my favorite relatives, she
would not call me by my name. She always called
me sometimes do viatory name.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
And I just start ignoring her, and she was like, well,
why you're.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Not paying attention to minute because you're not calling I'm
not gonna answer you. That is not my name.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You cannot call me by my name. Don't talk to me,
or you think you somebody?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
He said, no, I don't think I'm somebody.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I know I'm somebody, and I'm somebody to be respected,
and you want me to respect you, And.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
She would, well, i'm your elder that I don't give.

Speaker 10 (40:24):
You want to talk about me like a dollar.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
You're a dang and you just supposed to take it.
Oh well, but that's my brother, that's my sister. We
learned from a long time ago. Our mother used to
say to us, you better be ninety your brothers and
says this, And this is before we even knew that
that you could transplant an organ. And she used to say,
better be ninety your brothers and sisters. You never know

(40:46):
when you might meet a peace part from them. And
I was like a peace part kidney donations, blood, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I mean, I didn't know anything about that. And we
can treat our brothers and sisters and cousins.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
And aunts and uncles and children with such it's dang,
you know which mm mmmm see. And you've got a
pretty decent relationship with your family yet yeah pretty decent. Well,
well what's my my dad? And and look my dad.

(41:18):
But that's good. The guys need their father.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I look.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I always tell people I could have been on the
front page of the Mommy book. I could not teach
my son anything about being a man and not a
black man in this country.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I was like, I've done my part.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
This this this is this is your life. This is
what you It's your responsibility to teach them that and
and not teach and not be bulliant because parents were
bullying your kids and your kids at school a bully you,
you know, and you want to be able to come
home to some peace and to not have that.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
But your family that could take that could take a
big toll on you.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
You know, you gotta walk on eggs shell. I don't
know she's gonna go off the day. I don't know
if he gonna throw the god and can down and say,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
What's gonna matter a flash day. Okay, I'm back, man.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So what are your thoughts on you know, making sure
that you keep you know, you don't have to just
like love them like for no.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Reason but to have a cordial relationship, you know, when you.

Speaker 13 (42:13):
Call them, you know, and I come, don't don't call
me only when you need something, right, Yeah, because that's
he's taken advantage in your family, and that's you could
be doing that like your family's a family.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
You can't change that. You can't buy them, they argue,
you are. You can't choose them, so you have to
you know.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
I'm not saying like, don't you have to reciprocate treat
them to you how.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You want to be treated, you know, and that and
that's not so much done anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
People just want to talk to you any kind of
way now and they think it, well, we could say
anything we want to say to you, and you're just
gonna be no backlash. And I mean, we're gonna through
this whole thing, with the whole caring situation when people
will just you know, calling up the police and saying, oh, well,
there's a black man in the park walking has.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Dog and I feel threatened.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Give me tell me that's what you're doing with your
time and your life.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
We got other things to do. That is set up
and be ridiculed.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Into it and be talking down at one another. We
got other stuff to do.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
I like, it's just two dumb.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Money go to you want of your feelings being correct?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm like, can we please put on our big girl
panties in a big boy boxers and act like adults here?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
We're a adult as.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Much of an adult as I can act, That's what
I'll do.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I can't be a full grown adult. That's adults.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
They take like way too serious and I'm not doing
all of that. So we got another one, yep, and
we're ready to go.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
That was a good one, though.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I'm glad you.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
Telling some of our unforgettable guests.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
So we brought them all back here to find out
what's been going on to said last appearance on ourself.
This next fifteen year old have mobbed, blood and spoiling.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Remember him?

Speaker 9 (44:01):
Why are you so terrified of your own son? Well, oh, mother, mother,
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
He just the other day he puts stand in the
face who.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
He pulled a knife on me?

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Did you pull a knife on your mother? Like she said?

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Ses for this?

Speaker 14 (44:19):
I just don't like the way you act sometimes I'm
trying to hurt to you, and I don't like that
feeling you're my child.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
I like, Kimberly Miller, lets open that door a whom.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
You don't scare me. I got a grown son, trust me,
and we've been to fifteen. At the rate you're going time,
you're not gonna make it to sixteen. You need to
apologize to your mother for pulling a knife on her
or putting your hand in her face, for just respecond
her own.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
That's what you need to do.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
You need to sell her if your father for being somebody.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Are you going to do that? No, Ronald, you are
going to be escorted out of the building.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
You are on your way to boot camp.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Peach hell y n he saw.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
I wasn't joking, so I what kind of a textic
boot camp? Had a relationship with your mom?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Or luke him?

Speaker 4 (45:23):
I wasn't you know?

Speaker 5 (45:24):
I was preferred for you know, this is gonna be
no problem.

Speaker 10 (45:28):
But it ended up.

Speaker 15 (45:30):
You know, I'm not used to getting off at five
thirty in the morning and running every morning.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
And the colonel there, he he was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
He he wor worked.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Through a lot of problems with me. I had the option,
you know, I could have just sat there and did nothing.

Speaker 15 (45:52):
You know, we're in there with an attitude I'm just
gonna do whatever, and as.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
Soon as the colonel. The all at means I was
for having my hands in my pocket. I realized there
there was no joke and that.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Just ain't as easy.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
As I thought it was gonna move. So what did
can learn from boot camp?

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Loned? That my mom is not gonna be around forever.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
I know, sooner or later, I'm gonna have some children
and they're gonna want.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
To see their grandmother.

Speaker 15 (46:26):
And if I get into a big flight with her
and I never want to see her again, I realize,
you know, my children aren't are gonna do the same thing.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Do you have any any regrets about the way you cheat?

Speaker 9 (46:44):
Tom?

Speaker 15 (46:46):
The biggest regret I have is not apologizing to her
last time?

Speaker 9 (46:50):
Hey, is that why you're there now?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Yes, ma'am. You seem to have straightened yourself out, but
you weren't behind the door for your mother the last time.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
Let's see if seed behind the door for you today.

Speaker 9 (47:02):
Go take your place over there.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Ronald, w I kick you.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
All right, Ronald.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Miller, who got a ruder?

Speaker 9 (47:12):
Wegdy?

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Let's open that door. This makes her all perfect?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Hi, Kim Hi?

Speaker 9 (47:36):
So how's the Oh, my goodness, you'll be bears. So
what's Lonald like? At home now, it's not one hundred
percent my Wait, wait before you even.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Go into that.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
First, he owes you something. There's something he wants to
stay to. You tell your mother, Ronald, look at her
and tell her and do.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Abody comes Mom. I'm sorry about the way I've been acting.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
I ain't I'm not gonna change a hundred per ten.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
I am gonna change what I can.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I ask, is there like any.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
One point when he was away, when he came home
that made you realize he is really.

Speaker 9 (48:25):
Trying to turn his life.

Speaker 10 (48:26):
Awhile, Yeah, he.

Speaker 14 (48:28):
Left on Thursday to go to boot camp and I
hadn't had any contact with him, and he called me
Sunday evening with the PRIs contact.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
We had to a little camp and.

Speaker 14 (48:41):
We talked about a few things in some communication and
the most important changes.

Speaker 9 (48:47):
And when she loved me and he hadn't done that
a long time, and that's all he wants to do.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
They love me, give her good reason.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Come up you openly and honestly and be a good son,
because just like I said, your behind off the boot camp.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
Don't make me come to your house and get doing.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Tell I appreciate you saying.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Your saying Thank you, whyn It's good that you're turning
your life around.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
You've got things to do, in a way to go,
but son, you can get there.

Speaker 9 (49:20):
With your mother love.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
You will get there. Thank you bok very much. Pray
see what I did there.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
With mother love. I just couldn't even imagine, you know,
I come from the old school. My mother couldn't look
at you across a hundred yards and look at you
and make you feel like she poured the whole work
in your forehead.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
She ain't e decorates her boys.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
When he started talking real slow, and they are very methodical.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
By that time, I'm not, well, can't you just beat
me nuther?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Because can you? And to beat that?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
This suspectful?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
This is why, uh, in scripture and just in life
in general, you gotta treat people, especially your parents'.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Scripture says honor your mother and your father so that
your day.

Speaker 11 (50:16):
Not their day.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
That's that mixed up.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Sometimes, don't make it a mixed up.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I mean, I mean because you imagine raising your voice
to your father, wait, raising your voice to any elder
and being able to talk to the next day.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
Well, if I ever did that to my mother, yeah,
I'd be eight feet under that.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Two more people more.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Feet under and they and they know.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It's an instinct that we have. I just can't wait when.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
These people and the kids in the store person.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
What I'm like, Oh my godd, I told you about
the time.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
This is when I started keeping bail money in my shoes.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Be seriously. So we're in a uh this is word
like and uh it wasn't quite Walmart, but we're in
one of those kinds of stores, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
And so I'm standing behind this woman.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
And she said, a daughter I'm gonna stay, may be
eight or nine years old.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
He was the button.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Okay. So the mothers putting her stuff up on the
the bare belt, and I'm starting standing there. My thunders
in the shocking her. And the mother said, no, you're
not getting those shoes, and she took them off the
bare belt. The little girl slammed the shoes back up.

Speaker 10 (51:32):
On the covere belt.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
The mother pulled them off. The little girl balled her
fists up and punched her mother in the back. I
had an out of body experience. I snatched this little
girl up so fast and so tight it wasn't even funny.
I didn't even get March had to unball her fist,
and I had got fist like this now to y'all

(51:55):
stared at me. Now And as I told her, said,
this is the woman.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
You're going home with. This is the one you need
to learn to respect well. She tells you know you
you don't get no rebottled?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Do you understand what I'm saying? And I'm talking to
her like do you wander stand why I'm telling you?
A little girl? So the mother turns around. You know
she can't hear me, you know, and what I mean.
And the mother turns around. The little girls like help
we The mother turns back around, just kept on with
her stuff, going through the going through the conveyor belt.
I said, so Jesus, And then I'm going Jesus. That's
when I know God watch over old folks, babies and foods.

(52:27):
And I was a fool that day.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I was like, what right?

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Cause you never know that mother could have been like,
oh you get away from the put put him in check,
put in check, and have her on a plane.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
We're on the airplane.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And see that's what I I don't like flying in
the first place.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
And so but we're sitting in the we sit on
the plane and we're like right behind first class. And
then as a little girl, she couldn't have been no
more than seven or eight years old, She's sitting by
the window and I'm sitting by the window. And she
kept kicking my chair and I told her, I said,
they just stop kicking my chair. She kicked it even harder.
I stood up. I turned around and said, you better
not put your foot on the seat again. The whole

(53:08):
plane saw herb it the whole plane. She took her
little toy boxed up and throw it up against the
window and I said, then picked that toy up, even
picked this from me, that said. She said to her mother,
I said, push that chair one more time. I better
I hear you not another people out to go into
this plane land.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
They were like.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Because she was chair rising the whole plane.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I mean, she was just so disruptive.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
And the mother was there like, well, I don't know
what to do.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I can't control my child.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
This is a child you want playing to work the house? No,
you don't want putting the food on the table. I
wish I would have anybody living in my house and
everything they gonna slam or door. Mm uh, you see
that's what's wrong with these kids right now? Too many
of 'em been there titled and this just has everything and.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I have to work for it.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
They don't understand what it means to have to get
down and dirty and understand what hard work is. Oh no,
I should just be entitled to this. Why, well who
died and left you boss? And they couldn't give that one.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I had to listen to that. One's like several telling
well who died and left you boss? And I was like, well,
do somebody gotta die for me to.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Tell that one? I said, dude, we just gotta get
We have to start.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Being the adults in the room, the bruinals in the room.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
And stop giving these children all kind of out Let
them understand what the school of hard not is about,
because you won't always be around the cushions. They have
to learn how to manage toccess and failure. And it's
all right to fail because that mean you could get
up and try something else, or get up.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
And do it again, get up and do it again.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
No, you just shouldn't be just handed to you. I'm like, really,
I mean when we going to school, that was our job.
My mother said, you know, you don't pay the rent.
You don't pay the water.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Bill, you don't buy the food.

Speaker 11 (54:53):
I do that.

Speaker 9 (54:54):
Your job is to go to.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
School and get the best grades you can. I expect
nothing but this from you. And I was like, okay,
So it wasn't about you know, plugging out of food
and getting seas and these and ever getting.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
A Why do they call him a participation ribbon?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
You know cause you no ribbon?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Then you come in first sec of the time.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
No, I don't care nothing about that.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
You gotta try harder.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Oh, you're just being really hard on. They got us
understand what it means to not have things go their way.
I wish he would fall out and have a fit
on me.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
My son fell out on me? What's happened?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Had to fit another boy out of body expense. I
just fell down on the floor with him and start
toiling around the floor like the three students.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
And I was like, don't you hadn dont you had
hadden down your head happening.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
He got up off the floor and he said, Mommy, Mammy,
peeskin up. You embarrassing me. I didn't even know the
child knew what embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
We never had that problem after that, and sometimes you
gotta go.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Back crap crazy. You know, you don't have to hit him.
You don't have to be screaming and hollering at him.
You gotta be talking about the name.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
You just got to let them know who is running
the shelf.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
And like I said, I don't care if you're twelve,
but you feel like you you wanna. You know, you
can go out here and take up care the responsibility.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
You believe it twelve, but take everything you bought.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
And by after sixteen, the only thing I had bought
was not what you get part of our in the
winter time in Ohio end. So you got to watch
what you say and.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Watch how you treat peace. So now what's doing? So
this is quite enlightening.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I taught you have my tissue right here.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I really.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You do this to me every week, and every week
I get, you know, but I got to the point
I'm like, okay, I ain't even gonna try to take it.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Through it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
So now Thanksgiving us coming up, and we want to
say thank you to everybody who's participated.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Thank you for giving us and letting us know that
you are watching and listening to us, and all of
our stuff for many days gone by. It's still relevant
because you all want to be.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Loved, we all want to be forgiven, and we all
need to have more forgiveness in our heart because you
can never underestimate the power of forgiveness.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So now Thanksgiving us up. Are you cooking the Thanksgiving?
Are you having a big shin beg? Well, we usually
never do. Usually my uncle can't go over. And if
you want some bowld with my dad and.

Speaker 9 (57:10):
They and he cooks a little bit, and so yeah,
we at me.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Well is it? That's wonderful?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Be thankful for all that you have and all the
people that you love, and even.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
The ones that are hard to love.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
It's easy to love people that you like. Love really
shows up when if you love people that are hard
to like, and mostly that's because they don't like themselves.
So happy things give me to all of our babies.
Happy Thanksgiving to ye Shack and your family. Just make
sure you take good care of your felling him, take
good care of yourself, make sure that you're not doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Smile every day. One of my sorority sisters sitting down
a row Sobrity Incorporated.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
She send me this this cute little paperweight and it
says heat glitter every day, so you spar for awe
through the day.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
I thought that was true.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But don't eat good.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
It don't go on real way. It's like you can
eating now. I found that out the hard way.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You know, you don't be clear. I'm just la and
so I want to say thank you, thank you to
see what do you want to say to people this Thanksgiving?
What do you thankful for?

Speaker 7 (58:13):
I'm just grateful to well obviously be alive, how breath,
because you know it's been almost four years.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
If my mom's mom's been.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
Thank I just thank God that I'm still alive and
I still have things to look things.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
To look forth to, you know, because some people don't.
So I'm just thankful.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Well you know why that is because your parents didn't
make junks. You know, give us see and when you
know you come from good stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I both So we're both in the same situation with
our mother being in heaven and I'm still scared of
my money. It's she scared me.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I'm like, and they can hear you, they can hear me,
even before you say something. They can hear It has
been my true joy.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Let's enjoy the holidays. I'm gonna get back to my
wife and I have to start cooking three four.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Days before Thanksgiving. They just come in and eat up
all the food and.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Pass out and snore doing a football back. That's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
That's when you know you got a good Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
When they get a food high. They like I I've
had got I just galate got a slate.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
We listen, we have a great time.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You have a great time.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Know that we love you.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
And remember this baby's no matter how big or tall,
sut or small thing, it matters.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Now what skin you're in.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Everybody needs some mother love now and then go and
love up on some people. Piece and blessings to all
of you. Think it has been my blessing piece. And
blessings everybody.
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