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October 17, 2024 60 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Davies, it's the even more fabulous doctor Mother Love
coming at you live in the living color with this fact.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Who is live and in living color with me.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
This is mister Kennedy. I am doctor Mother Dies, and
we got some stuff to tell about today. It's always
something going on. Okay, Let's start with the Menendez brother Okay,
the Menindez brothers, Flyle and Air. This is one of
the big things that happened when I first came out
here to California nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
And these two young men came from a.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Very wealthy family, Jose and Kiddy Menendeath. I mean, he
was running things, big time guy in the community, all
politics and everything, living a life that we would think
the living the life of luxury.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Nonetheless, these young men came into their parents' house and
they stopped and they bought weapons, shotguns, and they lowdered
them up, and they came in the house and they
shot the father dead, and then they shot the mother did.
And then after they both of their parents were killed,
they went on a shopping spree. They didn't seem like

(01:07):
they were morning the Marines. They went on a shopping spree.
Then they found out that you know, this is what
was going on, and when they got busted, when they
got arrested for a first degree first degree murder, means
I applotted, I planned, I executed, and I moved on.
I'm going to buy me Rolette watching them, i buy
me a fancy car because this is what I deserved.

(01:28):
So fast forward thirty five plus years later, here we
are in twenty twenty four and they say some new
evidence has come tonight. Mark Garrett was there as their
attorney now and he says that some new information has
come to light from one of the cousins who had

(01:49):
Io had wrote.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
One of them wrote a letter to their.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Cousins said that how they were being sexually assaulted by
their father. Then a young guy from the group Menudo,
came up forward and said I was I was sexually
assaulted in the Alin Desert house as well. So with
these two new pieces of evidence, the letter from that
he wrote to his cousin and the fact that the

(02:14):
young guy Famernuda came forward and said that he did
the same thing to me. So now both sides of
their family Kiddy signed the mother and and Jose Menendez.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Family his side.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The father they're saying they paid.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
For them mistakes and they should be legit not necessarily.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, they say they wanted to have them resentenced because
they got sentenced the first degree murdered life without the
possibility for parole.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
And help me try to.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Understand what this means. Well, exactly what that means is
that now the district attorney he's got son, Okay, it's
gonna go before jail and say, okay, we got new
evidence and involved in this case here with their amenda's brothers,

(03:04):
and that in light of the new evidence that has
come forward, we would like to have the sensus uh
change when it might they changed as far as them
not having spent life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
So he wants to change the citizen guideline so they'll

(03:26):
be eligible for parole. And if they make them eligible
for parole, then they will be released within the next
two months, so they'll probably be home before the end
of the year. I mean, it's the record, because the
judge has the final decision on whether or not to.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Change their their their uh.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So that's what I got confused on because they were,
you know, throwing out gascon District turning for Los Angeles,
they were talking that, well, you know, we want we
want the attorney to look at this case again. Okay,
But the final decision on the district attorney or.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
The final decision on the judge who hears the case
from on the recommendation of gas gone. It has to
be the judge, okay, because all the district attorneys does
it just recommends.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay. He said, new evidence has come in. Now I
would like to change the outcome. I would like to
change how.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
We send the stem Okay, But the judge that does
not have to approve that. The judge that they're going before,
does not have to accept the new evidence and say, okay,
this is enough compelling evidence that I'm willing to say, yes,
you can change the guidelines of their sentences.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
And wonder how many people are sitting in prison now
who can have this this kind of procedure for them.
You think it's because that comes they got a big
high they got a big high powered name, you know,
to come back and say, okay, So this is what
I want to understand. What the family and both sides
of the family, they want the district attorney Gascone to

(05:01):
saying Okay, we got this new evidence. Man, Joe, I
want you to look at this.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
And it will be your decision to resent.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
But without women without the district attorney said, Okay, there's
new evidence that has come in, and the lighter the
new evidence in light of the statue, I'm wanting to
make a sensing change for these I.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Want to recommend it to recommend.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, you know he said he wants to make a change,
but he can't make the change unless the judge approves it. Okay.
All he does is said, Okay, I have evidence, and
and the light of the new evidence, I'm willing to
go back and revisit their case. And as the district attorney,
he's going to say, I want to go back and
revisited their case and and after looking at the new evidence,

(05:47):
I may recommend.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
That they should be able to get out and they serve.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Their purpose for their prime. I mean, but in my opinion,
I don't underst to how they can overlook the fact
that they killed their mother. I mean, no, no, now
one thing for them to say that, okay, what the
father was doing to them was wrong, go ahead, go ahead.

(06:14):
What they were saying is that what the father was
doing to them was wrong. And the fact that this
evidence was not brought into the first trial that the
hung journey.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, well.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Guilty the first to be murdered because it was women,
It was first to be murdered.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Whether they you want to consider the first.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
To murdered on the father or manslaughter on the mother.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
That I remember the saying that they didn't want to kill,
that they knew that.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Their mother couldn't live. They didn't know women didn't know
what their mama could have lived through.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, first of all, now reality is the mother was
living through them. Them molesting the son, the father, her
husband molested that their son. Say you believe that Kitty
knew what was going on? Yes, I mean there wasn't
like anybody's ever said that she didn't know. Now, I
would be totally shocked if someone said that the mother

(07:10):
did not know what was going on. Yes, she did,
because they were saying it was times when you were
you knew that you could go down the hallway when
he had the sons. One of the sons went with him,
So the mother knew something was going on, you know,
you know, And to say that you know, I can't
say because I don't know whether one of the sons
ever actually came to their mother and actually told them

(07:31):
their mother point blank, this is what dadd is doing
to us, or doing or doing to me, if any
he wanted to do when they wanted to throw his
brother under the bus, if he just wanted to admit
what was happening to him and came.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
This mother and said, okay, well, this is what dad
is doing to me.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know, the fact that we don't know that at least,
I mean, I'm not aware of that whether day became.
But what the point that I wanted to make is
this is that when they the mother and the father
were sitting in the liber room watching TV, they came
in in the living room and they shot. They shot
and killed the father first, then they shot and killed

(08:06):
the mother. And their reason why they said they killed
the mother is because they said they didn't believe that
she could live, you know, through all this pain with
them killing their father and their father been the reason
why they did this action. So they they thought they
chose for their mother to make a decision for their
mother that was not their right to choose. No, And

(08:28):
that's what I'm saying. It wasn't their right to choose
that the mother she should be Uh, it should be
you know, they said the mother couldn't live.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Without the the father.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I meant this thing up and one brother You're saying
that these are kids and then ended up they're looking
for a way out and the kid made a decision
to shoot and kill their father, and they shoot their
mother because their lives.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Again, well, she.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Wouldn't be able to live with this.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
To know what was going on, you know what happened,
you know what happened on that take this as a mother,
as a mother.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And coming from mothers and coming from aunties and grandmothers.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
They always knew what was going on in the family.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know, somebody was gonna say something, you know, And
the secretiveness of it is what is the destruction of
these these kinds of situations with families that Okay, no, I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Not gonna okay.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, you came to me and I you know, your
your father's just having.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Issues or I don't believe you. Your father would never do
anything to you like that, and said, I know what,
I know what that's like.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I know, personally, what's that life? What's that like?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
When you go to somebody and you tell them and
they either gonna believe you or they're not gonna believe you.
And believe in you is gonna be the most detrimental
thing because it's gonna just want the entire family, well
wealthy family. Can't you just get over this? Look the
other way. I know that your father is doing this,
and I know it's a terrible thing, but just look

(09:53):
look at the life that way living. You know, we
have prestige, don't do you want to just disrupt that
because your father feels this way. That's the part around
it that these women are in their homes with these husbands,
and these husbands are doing things with their children and
they don't know. Okay, Okay, what I just want to
ask this question.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
First? Okay, well let me let me just give out
the football coach here.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
See, okay, they knew and they covered it up. They
knew what these guys were doing.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
They knew.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
And what about the doctors that was sexually assaulting.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Hung with young men and women, use collegiate men and
women with the whole life ahead of them, and then
you want to dump this ugly on them and they got.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
To live with this for the rest of their life.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And then you you know, you you you know you
checked out because oh I can't deal with it.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Really, you don't know what they want in your own unbles.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Okay, I'm listening because you're going I mean, you have
to stop and.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Take a breath.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Okay, you're saying that one that the mother knew what
the father was doing. Okay, you know, sometimes you can
you can know and not know all of the same
happened and when and.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I say, this is bullcorn. You know and not know.
You either know it or you don't know it.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, you can, you can have suspicions of what is happening,
and you can choose not to go any further. So
just stick your head in the saying, Okay, it looked
the other way, it didn't happen. A lot of people
do that, I know, I mean exactly, you know, for
better or for worse, a lot of people do. Look
just simply do look the other way and won't.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Listen to what you happen. Not so much. Someone you
don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't want to hear it. You just shut up,
don't say anything. Why don't you just be quiet?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You talk too much Okay, it's based on each circumstance.
Because everybody's circumstances different. There's a million reasons why people
turn their turn a blind eye to what's going on. No,
I can get it down to three.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
The biggest thing financially, your own personal safety is too
You your own.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Security, women your security.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And you're standing in the community.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I mean that's the fact that you e is
not only your reputation, but you know a lot of
people and this is not just one family, this is
most families.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
How how many families want their business out of the
streets women? Very three of us do. And the fact that.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
On that note, as we were growing up, we're baby
boomers and we were.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Taught explicitly you don't go out in the street and
tell us anything about what happens inside this door. What
happens here stays here. You don't go out there because
there's not why A lot of the roofs happen because women,
if you if you keep them in the quiet, and
as a child, as a child, you're always the victim
because you have somebody older than you, somebody who's.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Providing for you, taking care of you. If they're telling
you don't say anything, don't harm, don't do harm. You're
more apt to listen to them than you are to
someone on the street. I mean, that's why most of
these things happen for a long period of time where
families will not with with it not coming out and
to the life. Because if you're told not to tell me,

(13:26):
because most most of us are taught as kids and
you don't tell what's going on in the house, that
that's not your job to do, your responsibility to tell
what's happening inside these four walls once you come home.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now, if you raise us that way, and.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That is what you've been told all your life, it's
hard to say, well.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
How could this go on for so long?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, the mothers are different than than the kids.
If you've been taught that you don't say things, you
know that you don't do this, I.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Mean, and man just gonna do what they do. But
just be quiet, okay when he's black, hall are here,
Just to the house and put it.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
On your face. Last back.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay. But but that's people that you know of that's
never happened to you.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And in the fact, I never know I only got
beat up by one mask teaching, but that.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Was not somebody that that was living in your home.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
No, but abuse just.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Doesn't happen in the home. These predators are only on
the plate round. They in the school, they.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Desert and they looking for.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Who they can't groom.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Who's offing, okay, but who's not paying anybody.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Paying attention to it.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
They are predatory, okay, But women, we're talking in the family.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
But that's somebody on that women that's a predator on
the outside, because you have present.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And there's the women. And didn't they just say in
the Meninda's brother's case that new evidence came to life
from a young man who is in the group Menudo,
he's outside of the family. Women, he's outside of the year.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
But also it's to me it's a bit strange that
just thirty five years for them for this to come
to life, see them, I mean, you know that that's well,
that's gone. It's in a tough re election fight, right
I mean, and I mean it's a shame to bring
this up, but I mean he's in a tough fight

(15:14):
for re election and him doing something too that will
bring favor to him. Guess before that, I mean, if
it's coincidentally comes up in October and and and the
election is like, what agree with let's.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Think what nineteen nineteen county? Right?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So I mean, is this more to help him get
re elected because all of a sudden he's showing, oh,
look I do care about people. One of one of
the props that we've had with that's gone did that
most people didn't like about him soft on crime, that
he's soft on crime, and that he didn't care about
the victim as much as he if he cared about

(15:52):
the perpetrators who were doing the crime. Okay, this makes
them look really good at the at the eleventh hour
to say, oh, okay, well I'll re look at this
case about the men.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
There's brothers.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Can you just make up a worrd? Relooked at wanted.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
He wanted to re look at the case.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh he took the.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Now women all this.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
All the prosecutors before him was asked the same thing
that one like, he was the first pason.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
They have asked to, you know, let them out.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So the other prosecutors before him turned them down. You
know why this guy's gone beside too? You know, to
look at this and it's just coincidentally, did you bring
light to it just before the election. Now, So that's
what that's what I'm I find. Can't he sketchy about it?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Is that the timing of it?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And mean, you know, because what what what the the
families of both sides is saying that women women, now
if they knew about this, when women if they knew.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
That this is what their father was doing to the
south and.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Had been doing this, you know, ye okay, now, but
when when it came time to go to court, let
y'all when you see.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's what that's what looked raggedy to me. It looks
raggedy to me that you would wait in an election
cycle to bring this up. Now, these cats have been
in prison for thirty five years, and we've been out
here in California for thirty five years. This from their case.
And and the young lady that that was that that
was murder that came out here.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
To look at unfortune from moken mind.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And the guy came up to her shot her dead
because he was obsessed with her and changed the law
so you don't just give off people with job yeah,
and stot okay, and and then and it was that one,
and then there was another one.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Okay, one back to them. Okay, now you had Oh
it was the O. J. Simpson trial.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
All of this crazy was going here.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And go with OJ Simpson trial when he was found
out guilty and so he could never be retrought. Now
for that, okay, man's hears women. There's no question women,
there's no question about whether guilty, whether or not they
killed their parents.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
They wanted to be to remember and want to be
Man's flaughter.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Is because women, according to them, because you only can
go by them because both his parents are dead, he
can't ask them. But what they're saying is that they
killed their father because out of fear. You know that
he would never let them leave, that they tried to leave,
he would track them down. I mean, you know that
takes it. I mean, I can't say that they could

(18:34):
not have been in that kind of fear because if
you're not going through something that like what they were
going through and have been going through this for years,
and that's.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
What they do. They keep them seinful. But this is
but not just.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Being a bully, but this is your father, and I
mean it's not just something stranger right that you're saying.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Okay, okay, but the women so do you know that
how did he treat them?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And he wasn't doing these bad things to him? You
know where they really treated really good. That the other
the other family members was envious of their family and
their wealth and their position.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
You know the fact that they come out now.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And say, well you no business things that that was
known for years, even though they were known for years,
but nobody tried to get their sons away. When when
if it was known for years and and nobody said okay, well,
well come on to come stay with us? No, no, no,
why you concerned about the money?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Wait me? The biggest reason why they didn't leave.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
And because of the lifestyle and the fear when you
wait me, see if he's just so fearing there? But
you you win it because they're saying no, they say
there because of the lifestyle and and and they feared
that they left some harm will come to them. Okay,
now you want everybody okay, wait me.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
We all have to believe now that they were so
fearful about leaving that they would stay there and continue
to be more or less because it was better to
stay there and just to keep happening.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
And they didn't. What happened to get up and leave.
They need better start for the scratch like.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Me, really young at the time I'm telling.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
About, didn't they killed them?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
How women?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
How were they when they acted at thirty five or
forty five? They had to be in their early twenties, okay,
and that they've been in joy that they've been in
and they knew that they women.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So it happened in the early twenties. For which men
that you were you won eighteen?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
You once you turn your kids?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, because he turned eighteen years old. That's not really
an automatic.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't ever okay, what it.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Makes you automatically everything or not, It doesn't change the
fact that when they turned.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
They to once again. Now either are you gonna always
be a victim or you can get up into somebody once.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
You turn eighteen. They could have left and never never
looked back again at their parents and never they could
have went out the.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Dollars fortune if I if I go away, no, I
want million?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
So now, so how much of this is fear or
how much of this is greed? And the reason why
they and the reason why they got convicted is because
the district attorney women they were being prosecuted, talked about
their great yes, the second time because in the first
try to the first drive, even though it was the

(21:28):
hungry they retried that because the prosecutor was saying, if
you had so much fear, why they did one? You
could you had apple time every single day, every single
morning you woke up, you could have left. You stayed
there because if once you killed them, then you went
on a spending free so you was you was in
that much fear. But as soon as your parents died,

(21:50):
you started, You went out of side, watched this you
bot car, you want to start women, So now I'm
having a great life. I mean, it's a tragic story
on all the way around. That they were being bruised
by their father and the fact that you know their
mother didn't step in and save them, that they not

(22:10):
only did they killed their father, but then they killed
their mother because they said she could live, but she
can keep living without the father. I mean, what if
the father, God forbid, the father had a heart attack
or got hit by a car or any trackedy could
have but sold him.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Besides them being murdered.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
By his son with the mother would have committed You're
saying the mother would have committed suicide. You know what
I mean, then likely look that the mother would have
committed suicide or a slim to me now I mean
because people, I mean, you.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Can be you can be truly in love with somebody
and worship the ground they walk on.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
But would you commit suicide because they unfortunately had unfortunately
you know, death.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I find hard to believe to say that. Okay, you
said that, Oh you knew this, you knew your mother
better than your mother knew herself.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well did that?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And that part that that she would not wanted to
live her sons that killed their father, so we will
kill you. But they could hire somebody to do it
to though they didn't have to do.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Oh he didn't discount women. Women the law to.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Somebody. Oh what they did was against the law.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Why you so to say what okay, I mean to
list and say, well, it's right against the law.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
What they did was against the lawsuit Wright, but women, all.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Of them, with all of you know, as all of the.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Stuff that's been coming out now about that newfound letter
from his that he wrote to his cousin.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
The young guy from the boy band and said he
was sexually assault at inside of the Mentsert homes and
he came forward. Do you believe that these two new
pieces of evidence was warrant them being resentenced for a
premeditated murder of their.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Father and then, on the spur of man form the
charge of killing their mother. No, I mean, in my opinion,
I would say not because women I can.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I can understand and sympathize with you about your father.
I don't understand and sympathize with you about your mother
because you make the assumption that your mother could not
live without the father. I mean, people do live without
other people when they die.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I mean because all the.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Time you don't, you don't have, you don't have you
have a choice in them and then and then passing.
So therefore, you know saying that you would just want
to kill yourself or take your life, because that wouldn't
do the.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Same thing to your particular.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The fact that you want to.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Do this, that you that you were saying that your mother.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Would have did this right, was insane.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You spared her the Greek.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But you killed your mother.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
On what they've done is called they got a word
for It's called patricide. But the at that you killed
your mother because you were upset about your father. I mean,
you know, I mean no, I didn't live in the household,
so no I can narrow, honestly truly know what cause.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And I don't. Maybe this I know this is me.
I remember listening to the nine one one call when
they called them.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, it was so phony.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I mean that right there, that's the first word flag
for me. That doesn't sound like somebody who's grieving that
the parents have been killed.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know, it just it just did not.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
It seemed very extremely contrived. Well I think.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It had to because God, because you women, you planned, women,
you did plan this murder, right, because it wasn't like us.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I was saying, you look at your.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Brother, say go get dance cap gun after cake, dad
doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
A gun case. We go to go to the store,
go to.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
The gun chop and we get up two guns. We
get two shotguns, and we're gonna do them both. The
white really women.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
But what they were saying women to my knowledge, because
I don't remember all the details now and and and
that's always a bad thing not to know the details
when you talking about something. Sometimes in this certification, because
when this happened, Okay, from what I recall is they
said that they took the mother's life because they said

(26:24):
that she wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Be able to live, you know without the crap, I
mean stuff. But the fact that you're saying now after
thirty five years, because of the bruce that they, you know,
received along the.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Way, they can be allowed to get out of jail. Really,
but how many other people that that that women? When
you have less offensive that are still in jail.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
We still have many women in jail on drug traffic calls,
drug trafficking, marijuana and now it's not a controlled substance anymore,
and you're not letting them out of jail. But these
guys to say, mother time women.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
But what you mentioned marijuana women, if that's a two
head short and so many states they made it legal,
but the federal government still considered it a control drugs
were having this. What it tells you is that you
have a two tiered sister, because on one hand, they say,

(27:24):
if you're on the airplane and you have marijuana on you,
it becomes a federal case, not a state case. The
general went across the state lines and what happened and
being an airplane, yeah you're flying, you you no longer
save you in California and you had the drugs on you.
Once you fly out of California and you can you go,

(27:45):
it's to say two Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
The room's changing might be would they allow you to
have marijuana?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay? So so if you but so you got busted
and there they would are you in there?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
But the fact that you took.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
This the marijuana onto the plane, that becomes a federal offans.
Women see the women because different things, you know, control
different other different other things. And in their particular case,
they men, their brothers. They're saying that they did what

(28:23):
they did because they couldn't take what was happening to
them that their father. The threatename is Y'll try to leave.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
If you leave and tell anybody, they might as gonna
be better tell your mother. Well, I mean more unlikely,
did I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
See, That's what I'm saying, that you.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Can know or not though.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, women, when I say you can know or not know, Okay,
she knew something was.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Happening when when the when the sons was in the
room with the father.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Okay, women, she was not in the room with them.
So that's me say, I know what's happening to women.
She can assume what's happening. Did that mean that she
know what's happening? No, and mean said okay, now, did
the sons ever come out and tell us?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Because they killed.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
The mother, You'll never know if they ever actually told
the mother what was going on, or if she believed
them or did not.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
God, they don't.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Know anything if she ever told them, because if that
she told them, then the mother said, okay, well, I'm
just turning my head because this is my my my
husband about what's happened to you? And you know the
marital wives, they say, uh, because there.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
And to take everyone and clean only hunt him.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
But you can, but you can still.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Go to jail for doing something to someone even under that.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I mean the.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Fact that okay, they have they have there's a provision
that a husband sposors can't testify, don't.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Have to testify any but you can't though.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
But women, it doesn't stop you women, see, but that
that stops have to make that decision. Yes, the individual
man's fact decision, because we all are individuals. Both of us,
the brothers were individuals. Both of them came together and decided, okay,
because of what was happening to us, I'm going to
onto these are actions that we should take together. Because

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the two of.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Them came in there and killed their parents.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So it wasn't one of them sent okay, andsparancy a
copy of conspiracy to commit murder?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
You thought about you went to the guns.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
For you bought shotguns. But you coulda went to the police.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
We could have went with you could have directed to
the police department and and the form member of what
was going on.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
This is gone, but let them, let them go lead.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Them and let the police department of the situation.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
So there I wanted one way, are the consequences of
their actions?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Do you believe that they should be allowed to come
out of prison after thirty five years?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Because the aunts and the.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Uncles and the grandfather were both guys said, oh that
is thirdy. They've done some real good stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
In the prison.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
They got college degrees, They talked to people, they managed
the people. Well what they have counsel you got to
do in prison for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
There's nothing, okay, women, there's nothing. I mean, I commited.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
There's nobody wanted to say you didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Okay, women, I commend them for forgetting the you know,
forgetting a degree, I could.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Commend them to help another person while they were in prison.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean, you know, because you do one thing to
get out of prison because.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
You did some one bad thing does not mean that
you can't do a good thing. Women, they were in prison,
so they were doing good things in prison.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Worse can you do the killing your parents, killing your children?
Wait a minute. The point that I'm making is that,
or why.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
They're even suggesting that they sympoms be changed, is because
they're the Okay, yeah, they did something truly horrible. But
once they once they while they were in jail, they
started doing good things. Well, I mean they couldn't. They
were were like they could go someplace else.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And do something.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I mean we already saw when they were before they
went to jail, they was all living up.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
The living their life. Ay, I mean you know.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
That never went to jail.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
What they have actually helped anybody?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I see that This is the one thing that most
of us will never know.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now they talk about how they while they were in prison,
they wented they win it and got we got their
their bachelor degree that they were in.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
They're helping other people, which I commend them for all
of that.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But Ryan asked the question is what pairs done. I'm
not commending them for any of them go ahead on,
I said, committing them for what they.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Did in prison, because that's what they asked them for
them to be released, is because of what they did
and then rehabilitated.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
There's no chance that we said, we said the business was.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
No chance of them going on and harming anybody. Don't
know that themselves or anybody.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That you don't know that.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I wouldn't trust you to be out here in society.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know that you can fear something else happening. I
mean the fact that I under said about it. They
you said, you want to communicate sentence now that you
now you believe what what they say was happening with
their father.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
That to me, how to that justify what you did
to your mother?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
That that you should be able to say, Okay, I
should get a pass on killing her, you know, because
I thought she couldn't.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Live with my with with what we had done and
with and live with what our dad had done to
both of us as we were growing up. So we'll
just kill shoot her in the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I mean, because you know, you think about it, she
could have taken women she could have picked and one
day just got up the left. She could have took
her to and she would not have been the first
woman that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Ever was about the dead, got the cat dog less.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Took her women that she don't women.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
If she knew that this was happening to her son
and you and never want women.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
She went to the authorities and saying, I need him
to be brought up on charge. We got to see
she's actually a sexually assaulting her son.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
She could have she could you know, there's a lot
of things I don't believe she didn't know.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, I do not was the punishment should have been
death by him?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
That was not his state. In my opinion, they just
state they should stay in jail. I mean, just think
about it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
When I think about it, you know why didn't the
mother just take her kids to leave? The only reason
why I don't think that that didn't happen more than
anything else, it is because of the lifestyles.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And the money there.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I mean, you know you call it lifestyle. It was
all because the money provided all these deeds, right, and
you gave them all these.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
These benefits and and you said, okay, I never you know,
for as much as madness that was happening. I never
thought it was enough madness to want to leave because
I wanted to stay here, be because of the benefits
that that that were coming.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So what if he hadn't.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Decided the whole fate Menendez?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
What if he had decided that, you know what, I
can't keep doing this.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm you know, I'm just gonna kill my wife and
my sons because I can't be stopped.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I know, I'm a predator.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Why are hurt Sam before anybody else hurt Stamps? Well,
I mean he's gonna thought that too.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I mean, we never know, because you know, I mean
that's the speculation. I mean still I got speculated on
the fact that I didn't understand. You know, why didn't
the mother, you know, when they were little, key little boys,
when it's when she first Now, why didn't.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
She take the kids to leave? I mean, you know, the.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I put him out.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Well, I mean a lot you know, there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Of things that you think and believe that could have
happened or maybe should have happened, of avoiding actual murder,
because I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
You can't get up believe. I mean a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean a lot of times people don't believe that they.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Have a way out.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
And that is the truth.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
And if that's been drilled in you day after day, you.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Have to you'll be no You beat nobody without me.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I'm the reason why you are even in this upper
echelon of the society.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now you're gonna do what I tell you do when
I tell you to do it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
And that was bullying and just wanted control.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
As bullying one had control, but every but we.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
All are individuals.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
And when you were a kid, but i'm.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Women, I'm not I'm not trying to say because when
they were a kid, they had no control. Once you
became an eighteen, whether you considered out of being an
adult or not, when they was eighteen, they could have
got up and left anybody to go out there and
live on the street.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Women when we were.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
At another women, What about all the loving relatives that
are coming forward now saying, oh, we feel like they
should be exonerated or what not. Exonerated is not the word.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
We believe that they're resentencing onto a curve becomes you know,
they've been there for thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
They went through you know, hell and back with their father.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Being such a predator, and sexually when lefting them and.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Other people and and they've done their bidding.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
But why did they come a go ahead on said
let me show up. Get what didn't they come and
rest the son?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Because I know it's more than one way to rescue somebody.
I mean, you have to physically do it. You could
call the police when when Now that's one thing that
was as much as as anybody want to stay on
their behal if you knew what was happening to the son,
whyn't Why don't the one de started the police think

(37:22):
to call the police.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
And why didn't their cousin who?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And what?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I think they said it was Eric that brought his
cousin the letter and tell them.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
What was going on. One didn't the cousin go to
another adult and say, he said, he all parents and
say when this is what happened to our cousin. You know,
even if they didn't want to be the one to
drop the die or you know, the one that drop,
I'm not going to see.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
So no, I mean it's easy now.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I mean because if you can, the father don't have
a chance to defend themselves. The mother doesn't have a
chance to defend herself. With these athlete accusations that they're
now saying it that are true. Well, if these things
were true and the family family.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Members on both sides, the truth didn't change.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
The family members on both sides now want us to
believe that they were aware of the horrible things that
will happen. But nobody dropped the dime on him.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Nobody came that's.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ropping to die right, Nobody nobody talked to say I
would call, I would call children Service, that I will
call Children's Services and report this. I mean, so.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Everybody, everybody's thirty five years later, I think the only
means why And I mean, I'm just being honest and
what I think.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Because the only reasons political because that's gone, gas stuck gone,
is up for real election and he needs all the
help that he can get.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And and I honestly believe he thinks this will be
good will for him because of all the things that
he's all these other criminals that he's allowed to go free.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Especially imagine lady jewelry stores.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'm busting up stores, and JUDI feels.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
White, and you will and you looked and wrappa out
of quickly as that came in. That was your policy,
and because you kill that look so bad non DEAs
and because.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Of your of the fact that people he thought on
assault on crime.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Now all of a sudden, you want to do this
hot profile to say, okay, look, this is a really
high profile case.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
And okay, well, and don't forget. They have two documentaries
one I don't know if the doctor one is a
made for TV you know the gardens is allowing and
are and then there's another one a documentary about them,
you know, So you and wanting this. It's just mind
boggling to me that all these people, all these many

(39:50):
years ago, new this. So what so what was the
letter from ed Well was if you had a draw
up under a shoe in an old box with stuff
I mean, and then you validated.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
And finally thirty five years later, thirty five years later,
I mean, you didn't move let me you know, but
when you when you were when you were in when
you were in court, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
You didn't bring up You didn't whether you could have
brought that letter up or not.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You could have had your defense attorney Till.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Brock the young man in to come in and tell
the truth.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Right. Their parents were there, so it wasn't about you
saying you're fearful back. If you came in there and
you would have said, okay, well well this is what happened,
or that's you know, every worried about the father, you know,
retaliating again here because you came in as four up women.
Why didn't you come at the trial and you're gonna said, okay.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
My trials?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Mind you to my cousin, did tell this?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now, manudo young man.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Maybe he didn't do it for God. I'm assuming because
he didn't want to mess up his career.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Been bullying.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Is not Milley. Even if he just bully you, then
he bullet you, even in death to the point that
you want to come and testify for these two young
men to say, well I know you know what, you
know what was happened to them?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
No, maybe he didn't no money to do what they
always say.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I don't want to get involved.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Well do you want to get involved?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Thirty five years later?

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Though?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I mean, I think the opportunity is there because of
God gone and his needed to get reelected and he
needed something.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
That was If that's the case, I wouldn't vote for him.
I wouldn't vote for him if that's what the case is,
I would not mean okay, I make wonder why does
eleven power?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Did it come up?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That? That makes it really you know, strange that all
this time because you're saying that you didn't have this
letter before.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Just now did you bring up or the guy from
them that they could not have come up before? Now though,
I mean, do you let it? You let these two
young men sit.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
In person for thirty five years when there's the evidence
was always always there or that way there or did
other district attorneys Now just think about this for a moment,
the other district attorneys had had the same information that
that that you are sept in Now that that right
that they rejected. Then that there waitmen, because you've only

(42:25):
been in office for four years.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
The d A before you did, the DA before that person,
the DA before that person, you're the d A before
that person. And these thirty five years, why was off
to all of their pills? So this is what you
come away so that you find something.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Else they come up.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I mean, now you can't say that people don't find
evidence later in life. I mean, just just like the
Innocent Project, but they go back because they can do
DNA they do find out evidence that. Okay, when you
said you had these spring of prints, Now.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
That we test, we can find out, oh this DNA.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
We found it, if this DNA actually really massed, even
though back thirty.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Years ago you couldn't then you couldn't have that test
for that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Now you had a test for that now.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
And that's why you're trying to get some people off
there from Okay, I'm asking because I don't recall, and
I'm not gonna pretend like I do.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
When they did they had this letter.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
How long ago did they have this letter wound, this
letter presented?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
And when and when did the young.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Man from a Noodle something knew that bok and says
for thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean so okay, okay, because that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Takes a lot, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
But it's an election year, I think, and I say,
he's doing it more to help himself get real elected.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Ye care about them speaking of an election year?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, this is a great safeway. Uh, we've seen all
the craziness going on in politics, you know, be coming down.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
To the wire and you know, uh.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
They're asking and begging us for money. These rich politicians,
I personally have a have an issue with that. I
have an issue with these politicians who considerably continuously bombard
our emails. Well, oh, let me tell you this about
this state, or let me tell you we just need.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
You to tip in four dollars, three dollars, one hundred dollars,
two hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Every single day, I'm hitting on your sounds. Okay, I'm
let's let me let me hold my hands.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Down and there and and they're constantly asking.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
So one day I just set up and I said,
let me go just.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
See how much money they're asking people who are limited income,
people who can barely you know, keep food on their table,
keep their lights on, keep their medications going. What how
I don't understand why y'all keep answering us for that
for our heart earned money and were catching healtunting people
robber seeds to pay Paul.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
But these rich politicians are writing us every day in
an email.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Old friends, I don't want to ask you this, but
I gotta tell you week with what three do?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Can you match out three dollars? Okay?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
If you're getting three dollars from three hundred million people,
you why are you asking us to pay for your
pay for your campaign. This is what you wanted to do.
You you, this is what this is what church you
made to be.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
A public citizen. And you already rich.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Wait a minute, you already got money.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You know, Well, why you keeps answering uncer money?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Why ain't answering people who are want to fixed income?
You know, give me three dollars, give me five dollars,
then they get down to the four dollars and seventy
eight cent This is what you know, our our donors
up there wearing grassroots organizations. Okay, but you answering us
to take pulled off our table, money out of our
pockets medicine that we need to sustain our health.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
And you you say, oh, just send me five dollars.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Sit.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I mean, I'm just I can I just get off
your building go by, because I'm just really, I'm just
really up that about y'all keep asking people every single
day for a dollar every day. That's thirty dollars a month,
that's medication people can't pay for. What are y'all doing
with the money that you're asking people for? People talking about, oh,
we gotta be super patul ever ating more hundreds of

(46:15):
millions of dollars but you just ask the people for
three dollars.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Okay, I'm all, well, first thing, you gonna have to
send it.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Okay, women, because they're asking does not mean you have
to reciprocate and give it.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I mean, if you're looking at them and say that
they're wealthy and they and you don't feel that they
should be asking you for money, do you said you
can keep your.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Money in your pocket.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
They do this because this is something that people have
decided to do because they want to help one.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Size or the other, as a candidate.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
One way or the other get elected. They want to
help one.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Measure or a ballot posal can get passed. So they
help to contribute to pay for airtime and some of them,
some of these as it's so convoluted, but you know,
they mix the words around here.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
The one group says.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Vote for this, vote voth for this, and you know,
prop for and so on such.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And said don't vote for this on prop for and
so on and such and such, And then when you
see them together.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
That's what's important, people, is important for you to read
the literature that your state, your local government, your federal
government sends you about voting and who's voting and what
the measures are and what what where their position is.
Don't just go in there all willing nearly like, oh,
I'm just gonna vote for them because they're a Democrat,
or I'm just gonna vote for them because they're a Republican,

(47:42):
or I'm.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Just not gonna vote at all.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
That's the most dangerous one when you don't take a
time to understand and realize that you you have a
you have a voice in this and for you not
to get up and say I don't wanna, I don't wanna,
I don't want to vote. Okay, you don't want to vote,
then you don't want to have any participations, so you
don't get this safe. What happens to the roles and
the infrastructure and the school measures and the property taxes?

(48:08):
You know, with these business is the same.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
It's same things, same issues that you're gonna have to
deal with whether you vote for them or not.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Okay, now let's see what they got on up.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Here on the U stee Okay a E groove out.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Of school music. I donate because anything to keep that
demented maniac from one of the country I figure nothing
on everybody's doors to vote for them. And staying touchable
to the people. Now usually I don't care the time,
that's important. I don't want that monster as president. I

(48:42):
grew one hundred percent. And I mean it's a choice.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That in each individual may If you have money to
donate to your campaign, then you do it. If you don't,
then you don't do it.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
I mean, it's not.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Gonna stop the campaign from going forward.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Now. But because they ask for help and.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You say, well, if you're wealthy, you asking me to help,
you know, it's like anybody else. I would hope that nobody,
absolutely nobody.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Women, instead of paying for your medication, you would send
that five dollars to a candidate.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Now, something's wrong with you, winmen, because if.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
You're not there, what good.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
If I take my five dollars instead of get my medicine,
and I said that five dollars to you, Now I
don't have my medicine.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
What happened to me with that?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
With that candidate probably even know that that I did that,
more than likely not.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
So it wouldn't make sense for anybody to take if
they don't have that extra five dollars, three dollars, one
hundred dollars fifty dollars whatever they're asking for, do you
to donate to their campaign? If you obtamay don't have it,
then you don't do it. Don't do it and hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I mean, they're a lot of a lot of the
mega people. That's happened to me, okay with one.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Guy, but when we wanted just one guy, u uh,
just for the sake of the conversation.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
He was you know, back east, and he was in
one of those corn countries like Iowa, you know. Okay,
But anyway, he had so he done in thirty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
In his in his retirement. Fun Okay, he when he
looked at it, at his record, he had been just
you know, really really focused on donating to the forty
fifth president's campaign to the point he left, he gave
away all of his money. Now he got to live
in the trailer on his daughter's property because he's lost

(50:34):
everything to live.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
He gave it away, He gave it away, he gave
it away.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
He willily donated to the campaign. That was his choice.
But but then his daughter should have been as a
dead women, why are you doing for women? If mac
you shouldn't have donated because I'm not saying he should
not have donated, but donated to the point where now
you're financially broke.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Now the daughter I naturally ruined.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Okay, financially run if that's if that's a better term,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I don't look at it being financially because he still
has a travils. He can sell the traivilest, so he's
not financially ruined. He gave away a big he gave
away the majority of it, saying to help somebody else retire.
But that was his choice to do it. He was
an assigned mind and body when he did it. And
they said, well, why would he do it? Because that's
what he was? Okay, And there's nothing wrong with being

(51:29):
believing that. I said, I'm not mad because he believes
in that, or saying that he shouldn't, because whether I
agree with the person that he gave it to or not,
if you chose that you wanted to give it to
them and that made you feel better and you were
not looking at your own financial situation while you were
doing it, then that's that's why I said, where was
his daughter at when he was making all these making
these donations? Now, why didn't he sell um, say, dad,

(51:52):
wait a minute. You can love him every so much,
but he says he's a bigger there. Would you want
to give all of your savings to a being there?
I mean, and if it's billionaire happened to know.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
That you gave him all your life savings as he.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Wrote your check to give you your money back or
even acknowledge you, well, that's what he might be is
being not what difference.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Doesn't matter that you acknowledge me as a donor when
you tell me when I'm saying, now I'm financially broke
because I donated to you.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I mean, see, because Lutie and I think even that
person or another side will received that three hundred dollars
gift would say, wait a minute, I got three.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Hundred thousand dollars somebody because they.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Wanted to see me be a real elector.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
They believe in me that much.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
But now they're financially you know, thrash scrapped because of that.
Maybe I might we want to give them.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Their money back or give them some un for back.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I mean, but that's that's a night, that's that'sn't that's
a really really insane thought, because it is because all
these people that are storm the capital where people lost
their lives and overturning the election that he lost. He's
in the haller these people are losing their lives. He
ain't put up there for one person. He ain't visited

(53:05):
one person. He even said they were stupid. They were stupid,
and he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
He was opposite. Is gonna partner and all that.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He said, it's gonna if he get a lesson, he
will pregnant, you know, and he will because.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
He can't if he just said he was.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
He also said that he was gonna have to turn
the military on the enemy within about the people in
the United States of America, the people who he says
is a threat to democracy.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
He's a threat to democracy. His whole mindset is a
threat to democracy.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
And people are listening to this. He left out here
in California, I'm sure the people around the world.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I've hope I have heard him the Callchella.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Valley h Festival in his huge and it's just like
it was just like over two weekends. Acha million people
are there and.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
You know it, well, make a long story short, you
look at up rules.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Okay, it's a lot of people. Some of his Mega supporters,
a lot of his matter supporters. They were told they
couldn't drive into the venue. They had to be busting.
They had to park their cards and they had.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
To be busted in, and that then they had to
be bust out.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well when they when it, when the people, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I thought you could call it when it was over.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
A couple of buses or how many came to pick
up some of them, and they didn't come to pick
up the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
They left hundreds of people singing. Citizens on whoppers and wheelchairs,
are canes no property? Psiotica, diabetes?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
They all these people are left out here in the
codes for hours, for hours.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I haven't heard anything about that on the news.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
I mean, tell you, he's telling you, he's shown you
I will leave you out in the cold, and I
like you if they talk when they get to.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
That's their true the choice.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I mean, so.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Speaking of choice, I don't want to talk about this quickly, okay,
because I mean that's still their choice. They chose to
go out there, you know, if they still both for
him after being stranded, that that is their choice. I mean,
you had a freedom, women, everybody had free will. If
your free will still say that you want to both
this man after you left you stranded in the desert,
then that's your free will to do it.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
If you wanted to say, women, this is really not
the person that I thought he was, because I would
never imagine that he would have left me stranded out
here in the desert, then maybe you won't both for him.
But that is you decided. I mean, it's the same
thing we talk about our first topic. They had a
choice about either to kill their parents or leave, and

(55:41):
they chose to kill their parents.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
That was a choice they made. There's a choice that
these people made when they went out there did to
hear him speak. I don't think they thought that they
would be standing.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
They didn't know, and I know they didn't think that,
but the fact that they were. Now, if you don't
go back and tell other people, this is what happened to.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
You, and other people have a chance to find out
for sure if that's what's going on or now, well,
then hey, that's still you haven't made that decision on.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
What you want to do or not do. And it
is a choice.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yes, the truly is a choice. And yes, no matter
what it is, all of them were choice. Being a
very good choice.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I want to I want to give a big shout
out to Serena Williams twenty three champion. She don't want
us of getting a tennis award, and thank you. I
want to thank you very much, Serena for speaking up
and taking care of yourself. She found out uh she
had she had a sense on her neck, and the

(56:43):
doctor told her, you know, don't even be worried about it,
you know, and it'd be okay, you know, we got you.
And this this was back in maybel she first noticed
it when the other day the doctors told her, what
you need to do is you need.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
To get this off of you.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
And I know what that's like, because she has a
brontial cyst. I get the basis cysts, and so I
know what that's like. And you think, you know, you
think it's not going to be anything, and then it
grows and grows and grows. I got one right here
on my shoulder right now that I gotta.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Go get removed because if they're fair benign, but you know,
it still can be very dangerous. And we want to
know what to dealer is. And she her sense had grown.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
To the size of the small grapefruit. And like, you know,
she's stay in great cheape.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
And you know she's she's got this. You know this
not the cist.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Earnest, but she had a drain.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
And the fact that she took a proactive approach, and
that's what we have to do, and especially our younger women.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Remember your health is the best. Let it be the
best that you can be.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Take good care of yourselves and your bodies. And so
many women, especially young women.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
You know, I remember being young and I.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Thought I was superhuman. Hell, I thought I thought fly.
I said, my mama, good bed.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
She got it around my neck.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Had jumped out the roof.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And the first thing he said, you just say, well, baby,
are you all right? Did you wake anything to I.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Know you're behind it.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Not use my good cheese to jump off a roof.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Okay, Well I learned that I couldn't fly that day.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
And we then offer us good sheet. Say hey, you
let two feees that day, not just one too. You
knew that you jumped off the room.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Again, You not to use her.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Oh listen, I'm only a fool for one thing one time.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
After that, I'll go to some other food. The fact
that she said this is important. The fact that you
were willing to share your story with us, because when
you could put clothes on.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
And you know where I turnle neck or whatever, covered
up the fact that you came out and you let
people know that this is what was happening to you.
Sick kisses to your Serena, thick kisses. We thank you
so much because a lot of women and you know,
don't want to talk about their health.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
And if you don't take care of your body when
you get to be my eggs just suppers, double crock care,
well that is a symbody that all this is UH
Breast Cancer Awareness Month in case the people are not
where this next month is diabetes Awareness monk.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I mean, we have a lot of elements out there
and we do need more people to pay attention and
be more conscious about their health. And because you don't
effect somebody else to be more concerned about your health
than you are. You know, that's the first thing because
if you if you have something's wrong with you and
you don't go to the doctor you or you don't
call somebody.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Or or get help, then you're or ignore it.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I mean a lot of people say hopefully to go
with because I can't afford to go to the doctor,
well you most a lot of Sometimes you can't afford
not to go to.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
The doctor, and oftentimes we can do something.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Properly to help ourselves. Thank you, mister Kennedy, a quite
lively conversation.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
And remember eat groom and everybody turned in with us.
I am mother love.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Remember this no matter how big or tall, it's sure
the small thick of thing, it matters, not what and
your end. Everybody need somebody's love now Iday, please, babies,
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