The Oracle, Award winning Poet, Denise L. Cook shares her passion of The Arts

Denise L. Cook, known as The ORACLE, is a published author, motivational speaker, actor, singer, spoken word artist, poet, choreographer and dancer, and is well known as a healer in the field of massage therapy.  Asked what motivated her so to pursue such a wide range of interests and she answers, “my father always said ‘anything worth doing is worth doing well. And anything you put your time and effort into, you may as well get credentialed’. I believed him, so doing anything less wasn’t an option. With Daddy excellence was the first line of defense against the big bad wolf of life.” As a member ​Hollywood Poets Consortium, contributing Poet for “A Simple Guide To Better Lovemaking: ‘69 ways 2 Please Your Lover, Your Better Sex and Relationship Guide,The ORACLE attributes her love of life and firm belief in “I can do anything I put my mind, body and soul into”, with her close association to her sister Bessie Maria Lyles who was born with muscular dystrophy and cerebral palsy and lived only a short but full 22 years of life. “Other than my father, Ri Ri, as she was lovingly called, was my best friend for many years. I am half and half, Black and White, and this white girl couldn’t dance. She taught me how to dance, from her hospital bed. I was ridiculed, laughed at, and abused because I was the “wrong color”. Racism in reverse; I was light skinned, light eyed, had ‘good hair’, etc. From her I learned compassion, a deep sense for unconditional love, and an awareness of how precious and special life are and how sincerely lucky I am to be where I am today; alive, healthy, happy and in love with G-D, my life and myself.”rs.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, if you just get out the way moves. Okay,
I'm knowing what I'm doing. Hell my daddings, even though
he thinks he's don't know what I'm doing. Okay, so
today it's gonna be a phenomenal day. I'm not touching anything.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
They come in.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Why don't you just put a bell around my neck
when I get ready touch something. I'm about tired of
these people say you can't do this, you can't do that.
I'm well, I can't touch the buttons, and I know
that for a fact, and I'm so delighted, attacked to
be we joined with this phenomenal woman. And you know,
I don't throw out the accolades and you know all
the fancy world, I don't do that too much all

(00:42):
the time because you know, I am petous. So when
I give out some kind of accolades and I think
like that, and not just thinking like that, it's being
like that. This is a time that it is known.
Unfortunately for the most part, the fact that they're everybody
in California kids is you know about in California wants
to be in the movie, they want to be on TV.

(01:03):
You know, they just come out here pack their cars
up and just come out and everything is supposed to
full up their feet. Now they're bringing their mentality from
you know, Rule Kansas or some place coming out here
to Los Angeles and they get lost and then they
start becoming where they want to prey on the industry
and they wanting to do anything to get to be there.

(01:24):
And people say, you know, people live in California.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Just tell punny Pleasure, you live in Hollywood. You down
there in southern California, you know, y'all just real up
my nest. You call me once, he told me auntee,
you know you real boogie. Yeah, let them thank you,
thank you very much. And so I'm what I have
found and whom I have found, and who have given
me the humble h the humbleness to be involved in

(01:48):
that inner circle. People that you know, you can pick
up the phone and they'll take your car. I see
what your needs and what you can get them and
what they can give to you. You know, bartis is
the money on the you know, the complasing and the
love and the ononeness. And I found that in a wonderful, peaceful,

(02:09):
soulful don't let a poolice you got a wicked sness
of humor. And I just absolutely am so pleased that
we continue to grow in our relationships and get to
be able to fellowship and you know, come and talk
to each other. And said, that's what I want this
show to be about, people coming on, letting us know
what they're doing in the community where they have come from,

(02:32):
those who are willing. And you know, if you're coming
on the Mother Love, y'all gonna be all over your
sheep because I want to know. And you will tell
everybody else you know, in the magazines and the opted
pieces and what have you. But rarely through especially small
business entrepreneurs, especially new family startup of it's the oracle.

(02:56):
Look like she just imaginely appeared. She just came in.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
He was right there, said afternoon, my dear, how.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Are you girl?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Like I always say, I'm six feet above and now
I'm just see That's what.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm talking about, because just a wholehole lot of folks
that didn't get here, and a whole lot of more
of that Wenna get here. And said, this is why
when you get to a certain age and a certain
and I say, hey, somebody told me the other day.
So Mother Love you finally grew into your name.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm like me, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
He said, Because when you came in here something that
you was the mother love and you like in your thirds, Yeah,
you are you mother. I'm not I got a sat
I ain't mother Love back to talk, you know. So
that's just because telling people what you do. I could
be here. He can just sit down and look pretty
what what just going through your head and where he's from.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Lets you know where you're.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
From and what was going through your head before you
got to this point when you're a young girl.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh god, I was born and raised. You're in Los
Angeles TENN eleven fiftieth Street between Central and Wrothorn. Now
why you did out? Maybe I remember our old phone
number eighty four four one one one. Oh that was
it was. I'm remember seven out of eight kids, and
it was drilled in us, our address, our phone number,
what our parents named.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Name one not mommy and day.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
They had names, you know. You know, when I was younger,
I knew I was going to be where I am today.
By the time I was in fourth grade. Most schools
over across the United States, fourth grade is when they
have in the curriculum for the students to do their
family tree, you know, and part doing the family tree
is there's always a section for your future. And in

(04:44):
fourth grade my future, I had written that I was
going to be a dancer, and I was going to
be a teacher, and I was going to teach dance.
I went on to get my degree in dance in UCLA,
my teaching credential from the Graduate School of Education at UCLA,
my master's and Fine Arts at UCLA, my teaching Masters
from National University. Girl, I did what I said I

(05:04):
was going to do with fourth grade.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I have accomplished into my age.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So now that you've gotten all of this up under
your belt, up under your belt, up under your dress,
up under wherever you put it at, you know, because
I have never known you to rest on your laurels.
And you know what I see when I say it,
it seems like you know, and I am you know,
I am sisterhood struck because to see people that look
like me go into great places and people always think, oh,

(05:34):
that's just happening for them. No, listen, no, it doesn't, No,
it does not.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's a lie. There's a misnomer that fifteen you know,
you know, fifteen minutes of fame. It no, it takes.
For those of us who are really dedicated to who
we are and what we do and our authentic self,
it's a lifetime, a lifetime of preparation.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I remember my mother when she got rest her soul.
She came out to visit me in California and one
of the things she said to me, but I always
pay attention when she said to me, because my mother
had the Jedi mind trick down, like better than Yoda.
I'm just saying. And she asked me one day, she said, so,
do you want to be a celebrity or do you

(06:14):
want to be a star? I said, I'm a star.
I'm gonna shine wherever I go. And she said, and
that's why a baby, and don't ever stop shining. You
stand in your purpose. Sometime I thought she was kind
of crazy when she was saying that. I was like,
you know, I'm gonna talk to your host, right and
she was like, either you if you want to do

(06:34):
it and just be a flash in the fan.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Do it and do it hard and get out.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
If you want to be I have a career, you
do it every day and this is what gets me
out of bed and gets me to where I can
talk to you. I'm proba na say this because see
I've we been on each other for a number of
years now. And okay it was you Tuesday Connor, who

(06:58):
is another rock star?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And oh what's her name?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It'll come to me.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You thinks we're on the show. When I was over
at l.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
A Talk radio and ye y'all had a ball over there,
and I have a ball enough for all four.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Of us, and I thank you did, I would say,
and you have not changed a bit. Okay that.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Makes me think, No, that's good, even though I believe
you've gottah in your basement and no basement in California.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
You gotta pick them. You remember the story door and Gray, Okay,
you gotta pig Jill you down there in the in
the backup on ball something?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Are you trying to say, I got some skeletons.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
No, listen, people like us, we don't have skeletons.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
We have you open up the door.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
They coming out, didn't want to tell everything.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
They know they're they're come and join us.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
See, that's why you gotta pick your friends, especially people
you want to be friends with and grow with. Friends.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
So now you wait in the news.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now, let's talk about some of these privates that you've done,
because you have done eleven teen different things. So you
come from Los Angelos and you decide a fourth grade
this is what time I'm gonna do, and you went
and did all of that. What was your most trying
time and how did you maneuver through that.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
My mom's trying time, believe it or not, was when
as a kid, my mother, she was an interesting personality,
God bless me, and she's fawn on now. She had
a sore elbow.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
She was a.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Functioning alcoholic and unfortunate of all the kids, I was
a camp for y'all. Just get a long, kid. You
know you could beat me Philly and make me believe
Now half an hour after I get out of my feelings,
get my cry on, I'm coming back and I'm loving
you even harder, you know what I'm saying. And the
hardest part for me is that I would have to
snoop out of the house to go to Los Angeles

(08:54):
to attend classes at Inner City Cultural Center. I'm one
of the original Inner City Custal Center brats. Okay, sneak
out of the house for that, or sneak out of
the house to go to dance rehearsal and she meet
me with a baseball bat or a broomstick or whatever
it was in her hand when I sneak back in
that when fock coming from rehearsal. But she was the
first person who sit in the front road at the recital,

(09:15):
and so I was constantly I wasn't sure what to
think about, you know, whether or not I should do
what I ended up doing, And what made the final
decision that I where I really so solidly said this

(09:35):
is what I planned to do. We had just done
a dance rehearsal at Saint Andrew's High School, Pasadena, where
I attended high school because we moved to La to
Pasadena after the original riots. And after the dance, there
were like twenty five dances. I was then twenty two
of them, and I had choreographed maybe ten or twelve
of them. Right after the dance, mister Murphy, Monica Murphy,
this is my classmate, her father said, oh, ooh.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You were wonderful, all of these that could What do
you plan on doing when you grew up?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And I said, I'm going to go to college and
I'm gonna take dance, and I'm gonna be a teacher,
and I'm going to teach dance. And at that moment,
I could feel my father's heart drop into her shoes.
Because of the eight children, I was the one academically brilliantly.
I'm not bragging. I'm just stating that I was the
one that was capable of accomplishing the goal of becoming

(10:23):
a doctor. He was a doctor, my mother was a nurse.
And there's plans have been for at least one of
the eight of us to become a doctor and or
a nurse like one of our parents. And I was
the one that chose the one to be there. And
when I looked over at my father and I saw
the crestfallen look in his face, that was I guarantee you.
I have to admit in my entire career that was

(10:46):
the hardest thing I've ever had to experience in reaching
my goals. Okay, to who I am today is that
I had let my father down.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, that feeling. I know that feeling. And when and
when you got a passion for it, they're gonna be
people who will say to you that you know you're
the lost us left of your rabbit mind. Your earnestly
thinks you get a degree in dancing, right, okay, so
then how you're gonna feed yourself. I'm gonna be a
teacher because they did not, because that is really so complicated,

(11:22):
because you expect the people that are supposed to love
you most will be there to support you and when
and you grew up with your father and your mother,
and people just don't know. Just because you gotta fancy
time in front of your name does not mean you
won't abuse your chip. Now, the other brothers insist that
it's okay, well you're the game is love, Okay, you

(11:42):
know what I mean? And I just look, did the
other brothers and sisters happened as hard on them as
you did?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Let's see, it depended on who you were and what
physician and hierarchies you were. The baby girl and the
baby boy were spoiled rotten, and he ended up being
my brother. I'm the baby boy. He was eighteen months
older than me. He ended up dying in prison, you know,
four stage unfascer, and had spent most of his life
in prison. It started going to jail for joy writing

(12:10):
when he was like think ten or eleven. My younger
sister Carlo, number eight, she became a teacher, and you
know she's retired now. My older sister Anne she now
and I got abused, but Anne got the brother of
be because she was number one.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Of the eight, so got the example for the other children.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah. Yeah, she was our second mom. She was our
second mom, you know. And I guarantee you I would
rather be punished by her than by my mother. My
sister Anne wouldn't hit you, but she'd have you hold
telephone books.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
What about what?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's what?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Back then she was a child helping.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Her mother raise her children, you know. And then one
of my sisters had muscle and threbral palsy. She was
an indolence born that way. In fact, I credit her
with teaching.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Me how to dance.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I want you know what, because everybody will not waiting
you hear this story about its agree read Ribby about
her chisterre read how did she teach you how to dance?
When you said she got cerebral palsy and musclar distance
so she just didn't have half the okay, tell us

(13:28):
about that sting.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
She was dead riding her entire life. She was born
with both conditions. Well, what happened was what had happened
was okay, I was eight years old and I ran
into her room. Think oh, I was just lamenting, and
she told me, I'm gonna clean it up for the audience.

(13:52):
She told me to shut the buff up fish.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Listen. We understand that completely. That's why people always say.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
What are they talk about?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Because she had no other vices, so she cursed. I mean,
what else could she do, you know? And she told
me to go get her record player. My father had
gotten her a battery oper rated record player. Because she sat.
I don't know if you can see my we.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Can't sat like this.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
This was her lower portion and this was her upper portion.
Her back was in a permanent art because she lost
the muscular chair in her back, and so but all
and she could see herself like this, or she could
lift that findle put it on that record. And that's
what she did for me. She would put the findal
on the record. And she goes, okay, now stap your fingers. Okay,

(14:41):
then Janie, don't dance fastest, don't flow the fast music,
don't dance happy to sad music and vice, and she
she would have me hold on to the jorinop.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You remember the day you put the door. I held
on to the going off.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
And my sister, who never walked a in her life,
taught me how to dance. And that's why by the
time I was in fourth grade, I had decided to
dedicate my life to giving back to her what she
had given to me.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
All about when we talked about sister love. That's some
sisters love right up in there. And she passed away
at a very young age.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
She died the day after her twenty second birthday, and
I was the one to discover that she was in
the dying process. We had been prepared. The doctor said
she wasn't going to live past eight.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
She did.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
They said she wasn't going to live past twelve. She did,
and they said, whatever you're doing doing it. We loved it,
you know. So I was late to the birthday party
because I was down the road getting raped. That's another story. Yeah,
that's another story.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But I walked up there.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was drenched in with from rain from walking where
the thing occurred. And I got there. I was late.
They had already sung Happy Birthday, so I said, please
sing Happy Birthday again. Now that I'm here, so they
sang it again. They relift the candles that she could
go out with me there in the pictures and everything,
and then she said, and she's spoken the third person, ooh,
re read so tired. Ooh you re really to go

(16:09):
to sleep forever?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh really just so oh.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Really needs her diaper change. And so I volunteered to
change her diaper. And I picked her up in the room.
And because of the thing she has been seeing, red flag,
red flag, right, So I took her vitals, I checked
her respiration, I touched her her faults, I checked all
her vitals, her heart beats the whole nine, and I
realized she was in detail. That's when your heart goes

(16:32):
before it stopped going. Okay, it's in its.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Last you know, laugh, laugh of light.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
And so I asked her, I said, reread, do you
want me to that time has come? Because she knew
she was going to die, and we talked about it openly.
It was a cool, comfortable conversation to have. And I said,
you know, you want me to go tell everybody because
you probably won't make it until tomorrow. Your heart's in
defis and you know you're talking about being tired da
da da da, And I said, or can we talk
a while? So, you know, but I wanted to make

(17:01):
sure things were right with us. You know, it's very
rare that you get an opportunity to say goodbye, right, and.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Then they turn they get to the funeral home and
it's fallen all over and like, minute, where were you?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
So she gave me twenty minutes. I gave her a
bed bath, I put on her her new things that
she had received as gift for her birthday. She had
this he quilted bed jacket, this beautiful pink chiffon nightgown,
and and my little three three three booties in a pack,
you know, Terry and I sense booties in a pack,

(17:35):
blue pastel colored, blue, pink and yellow. So I took
the pink and put those on her feet, and we talked,
and I asked her, is there anything I did that
I should apologize for or anything that I didn't I
should do I should have done, and I haven't done.
And the only thing she could think of is I
had not written her story. Mind you, I had been
getting published as a writer since the age of eight
or nine years old. My father used to send myself

(17:57):
to junior readers, Zaija already and I used to get
published in the Scholastic of Slastic award magazine, you know
the school. So she said that she regretted that I
never wrote her story. So guess what My ThEC from
UCLA when I graduated. My the thes was of love

(18:19):
of life, of miracles, the case of retreating unused portions
of the brain in the case of cerebral polity loss
loss of mental capacity due to cerebral palsy. It was
a real differtation, okay, but I told her story. I
told her story, and now it's somewhere in the library
and at UCLA somewhere.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well should we not get that out so that other
people can get some of these nuggets? You know what
I love about it?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Come on, you know mother love.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I was talking to someone yesterday and I realized, there's
so much more that I've done in my life with
my life, about my life and for other is others
life that I've forgotten or I haven't recorded. I lived
so in the moment of things happening that I end.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Up you know, no advertising, Why do you think that
is why? Because you people would say it comes to
you naturally. I would say that comes to you naturally
and you know where to go. How long can be there?
Sometimes you're going to be there for a minute. Sometimes
it's gonna be there and you're like, whining, this's gonna
be over. When can I get this lesson? And every
day it's something new to learn. And you know, when

(19:33):
you when you got to a pinnacle point, what did
you think about what you were doing? Did you did
you ever stop and think about what you were doing
outside of the time that from the beginning to cut
me in the end. Or are you one of those
kinds of people that, oh, yeah, I got some brilliant
ideas and you know you put them out there. They go,
oh yeah, that was a moment.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I'm I'm diagnosed with ADHD in three grade. They want
to wanted to put on ridlin and so yeah, I
still have that I have. My doctor has actually said
I now have adult ADHD and about sixty or seven
years ago wanted to put me on medication because I
am that is exactly me. I did a project and

(20:14):
I've settata, next setnada, next senata. The great thing I
attribute to my daddy. He taught me how to finish
because with people with conditions like my extreme and severe adhd.
You start projects, but you don't usually finish them. My
father taught me a sense of excellence. And how he
did that is Daddy paid you got five dollars for

(20:37):
an a you got. We had top dollar allowance for
cleaning the hearts vacuum or going and doing the yardwork
or whatever. Daddy he get day dave as financial incentives.
And then he also dave a spiritual inspiration. Because Daddy
would praise you. Oh, he wouldn't say, oh, that's a

(20:58):
great job to know, exc said. He would tell you
it's for you know what. It was a time when
And at the end of the story, your chest stelt
like this because you knew he was talking about you.
And that's what we want.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
We just want to be validated by our parents. And
I understand you not knowing which way to go. And
and you said earlier that your mother was a functioning
alcoholic and they could be very mean.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
They could be with evil girls. She would wait a minute,
she stopped sitting on my head with the couch pillow,
because that's one thing she My mother had this thing
she called figure forty. And you get naked, okay, And
first you go out and get your switches and you
get made the cheek.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's another one.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
He would bring these pitches. She would put water on
them and then put salt on them, and she said
that would help keep them from breaking my skin because
I have a sense of the skin anyway. And then
she would have me faith get know what I mean,
fainting the house. She takes the couch pillow, put it
on top of my head, then sits on top of pillow.
Because she had Angina had the heart attack, she had

(22:00):
to take those little weight Nigel Glissers, I was usually
the one had to bring her her fields. Think about that, oh,
I had thought, don't we all like okay? One day
my brother Ranald walked in on her beating me, you know,
under the pillow, and I was unconscious, and he told

(22:22):
her that time, if he ever saw her do that again,
he was gonna call the cops on her. So she
stopped doing that. But then what she would do is
this the hair grab. I've always had this this hair
are you used to wear it? And the natural and
the puff fall comb y'all hair? Straighten your hair. She
used to put what do you call that? Relaxers in
my hair. Okay, but she would grant me. So to

(22:43):
this day, I think I have a whiplash. And see
you see me laughing about the stuff that happened to me.
It's not because it was funny. It's because even as
a child and young adults, I reckon and even today
I recognize the balance Without the madness, How could I

(23:03):
truly appreciate the people that's it.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
You got to go through it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
You've got to go through it, and and sometimes you
gotta sit in it.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
You know, you really have to sit in it and
get all that, you get it all out on one
of these things, some thoughts, and you know, and we saw,
I mean the.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Stuff we saw when we were blowing up women out.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
This is what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
What that's what I want to know.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
I want to know when you are.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You're not having your fit and you go into reread
rooms and you crying and everything because they was calling
you white girl, How in the world does that happen?
Because you, I mean, ain't nothing wrong with white women,
but you are, you are in the in the whole
ethnic thing. We you belonged to us.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
So when the white up I got to tell you
how that happens.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Okay, you know, I want to know what happened.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
The people calling me whitey honky and past and all
that were my own family members. PU see my mother
steps out with a white guy naming birds white you
guy who owned the hardware store Greenbird's Hardware at the
corner of fifty fiftieth and Central Avenue. Okay, And she
stepped out, and I was the obvious obvious accident, if

(24:14):
you will, and back in those days because they she
told me she tried to get hit by a car.
She told me to threw herself down flight a stairs
with you. Yeah, she tried to get rid of me,
she told me. But my mother, my mother wants deep.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Kind of crazy all the members. And then you start
hearing the story and I can connect to that.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh, yeah, that happened to me.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Daddy. Daddy wouldn't let her bring me home from the
hospital when I was born. I was born with blue
eyes and white skin and no hair. And the doctor
chas signed. The nurse in front of my mother said
you've given her the wrong child. And my mother had
to see something said no, look at the risks. It
had Lyle's baby. Lyle's name, you know, the Yeah, I
sent the for three months of my life in the

(25:01):
hospital the day my mother brought me home because the
hospital will say give her up for adoption or come
get her. The day she brought me home, she gave
me to a lady named Lois Novelle Gray who lived
across the field. Her road doll baby, her eighth boom,
her role running buddy. You know. She gave me to
her because she couldn't have these. I was raised by
my godmother and her mother, Ernest Ye Somerville, the once

(25:23):
wife of the owner of Somerville Hotel Somerville which is
now known as the Dunbar Hotel.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
I got history of Oh I'm killing you.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
You had to become a wife my mother.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Five years later, I'll wrap it up. Five years later,
he and my godmother had a fight and my mother
took me back out of fight and at when I
was five years old, and from that point she started
beating me. I had another brother who was beating me,
another brother who was trying to molest me on a night.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Lead.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yah, his life was completely chaotic.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Got down for what I had because I was a
spoiled little princess at like besid my godmother's house. I
ain't gonna lie. My got my grandfather, my Jewish grandfather.
I was the first Jewish grandchild in that family. And
it didn't matter that I was a bastard, It didn't
matter that I was half black. I was the first grandchild.
And they have a h what do you call it?

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A tradition in the Jewish family. You know, the first grandchild,
girl or boy is the eoch of the at age.
And so my grandfather would give money to my big
mama because they were friends, give and give clothes and
toys and stuff to my big mama. And if I
go home across the street, my family lived across the street.
So my mother debated, said they when my godmother and

(26:36):
grandmother needed it, my mother would take whom clothes off
my back, give them my new clothes, my brothers and sisters,
my toys, and to the neighbor's kids who lived on
the streets behind us in the house and hinders.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
So life was not not pretty as a child. The
thing is so when you watching crapa of somebody's buddies
behind or changing when she started her cycle early changing
somebody co text. I was eight years old when I
started changing my sister's co text eight years old when
I was cleaning crap out of her because she couldn't
take care of herself she was bedridden. It's very difficult

(27:11):
to have a oh woe it's mean self pity party
when you're faking that somebody has it worse than you.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And this is your brood too, this is your system,
you know now. I mean, you could have picked a
man it.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
And it's all kind of different directions, and something.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
In you said, no, this is what I must do.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
This is my six ye and so God well your
brothers and involved in a positive way, or was it
as it was always chaos every day?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
It was generally it was generally chaous. I mean we
had you know, I'm sure we had some fun. But
sometimes when they're retelling stories, my memory is me sitting
in the corner crying, or me sitting in the corner
sulking because somebody has hurt my feelings or somebody has
hit me or or whatever, you know, whether imagine or real.
That's much of my memory as a child. And yet

(28:01):
and still it's I was still happy and joyful.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
And you know, and just get along.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Here's the issue of love of love. Here's the issue.
But I was eight years old. I was old. I'm
gonna have to walk. We're gonna walk and talk. When
I was eight years old, am I still there? I
had a visitation from what I call my archangel, the.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Lady in the blue white life and.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Get in the car.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Oh that's me getting out of the lot.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
My Lady in the blue white light told me what
my life would be, what my past to be, and
she gave me an opportunity to ask her anything I
wanted to ask. And I asked two questions. The first
question was how come my sister can't walk? What did
she do that her God given right to walk had
been taken away? And then the second question I asked
was why me? I'm eight years old?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
What did I do?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'm a kid? But how did I make these people
so angry with me? If they would treat me the
way they do? Her answer for my sister was her
God given gifts had been taken away so that your
God given gifts could be developed and shared with the world.
You are here for the benefit of mankind.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
That is God's plan for you.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And the answer to why me, she said, how could
you say you understand the thing. If you've not experienced
the thing, how could you get it? You see what
I'm saying. And at eight years of age, how could
I talk about the atrocities of great if I've never
been raised? How could I talk about the atrocities of
domestic violence if I've never experienced it? How could I

(29:34):
talk about all the atrocities of life if I myself
have not yet experienced it and not only experienced it,
but moved through it, around it, under it, over it,
with it.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's there's old mother love.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
They used to call me your fool. All of that,
the Arkansol said to me, make sense?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay, oh you know, I sell. I'm surprised that it
even still on. And I understand completely. And a lot
of people will sit in that will fit in that
and and say, you know, and say, well, this is
what happened to me. Oh and I this so and
so on. I'm blaming everybody else for what happened to

(30:18):
me yesterday or the day before yesterday, or whatever the
case is. And see, you take you take that pain,
and you make it work. And you don't know how
many people you've helped.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
You know, you won't know you will never know how
many people.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
You have helped. Your spirit at me being around you
uplift me me. Having you on the program that is,
that's that's very humble because you have been everywhere and
I know what that's like. And when you've been told
you better not see anything, you say anything gonna kill
your whole family. You better not say anything. You better
stop doing it.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
God, Okay, this is just really okay, get off, you go.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
But I'm on the.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Radio and the videos, I don't know. I thought it
was off. Okay, So so you know, as I was saying,
having gone through all of that, and when you.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Go, why me see my foot?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I asked that why? I mean too, you know, why
why not you? Why not you? Why not? Who would
use it? Not bring your life to the world. You
don't think they have all of them. You got all
them gifts because God in the universe.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Dig them to you and he said you would have
to you. Yeah, I'll give me the four works.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
And my whole thing was like, Okay, well I'm gonna
do that. I don't like man thout a front of
people who said you should do I said, well, why
dont you gonna get that? Don't worry about that. I said, well,
what I'm gonna don't worry about that. So I couldn't
even get it out to say, Okay, I don't want
to do this, and why me?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
He goes, and why am I you? I don't know
sen them to come back.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
And so I had to learn to be in front
of the camera, learn to work the room, learn and
I was always authentic. People say the same thing. She
a old, so she might have been in here people
down with her old house. I was talking about gown
folk conversation, and I asked my mother one let let
her throw her girlfriends and her sisters be up a girl.
I'm still up on at the kitchen table because I'm

(32:15):
getting walk. They don't even know I'm there. So one
time my mother calls, she said, what are you doing
upun the table? I said, I'm just so you want
us to get you to take take pune? Could you
clean your something? Help of God to your room?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
You were getting ready for your profession.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I listen, and if you had have told me this
thirty years ago, I just said, Okay, who's your direct building?
Can I just tell you? Because your daddy, I thought
a lot of times, especially women we stand in our
own way, we get in our own way. We talk
ourselves out of the great things in life. We'll talk
about the things that you should have that you know, period,

(32:54):
good health, good mental being, a good spirit in your soul,
the compassionate.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Women will say, oh, I'm gonna get me a husband,
I get mayor when I lose fifty times, I said, what's.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It gonna do with you? I have a husband thirty
seven years now.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
They don't understand people asking, well, what's the secret your marriage?
And it's okay, Well, when you you.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Know, I was gonna say, when you do good, but
I'm gonna change it. When you do God, you get
things like your daughter and her husband, your son in law.
They got married January twenty three. August fifteenth to twenty three.
We were moving into a house that they bought from
my husband and I. So you see, you will say me,

(33:40):
where did you get you all the chaos of your youth?
Because I already knew in advance that my ending was
gonna be better than the beginning.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right, and this is not an ending. You can't even
call this an end.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm not even here.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
The you ain't even.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Close I've got some current stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Pop it.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
So, okay, when did you get to that part of
the conversation.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm excited, okay about it?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Well, then here's okay, the most important one is this
last year, well, yeah, this past June or whatever, we
did the Hollywood Fringe Festival. It's an international festival of
live performances from local talent in the community. Okay, that

(34:26):
we have a French that's being held. Well, our play
Gil scott heron Bluesology won the top prize the International
Fringe Encore Series Awards, the prize. They're putting us up
at the Sofold Playhouse Theater in Lower Manhattan, going the
off Broadway Girl the whole month of February. February third

(34:49):
is our opening night. February twenty third was our closing night.
But I'm told that they've added four new shows. So
I'm not sure if we're being extended or they're going
to squeeze our shows in to the space that we
already have a lot of sports. But we're scheduled to
go up February third, and we're scheduled to close on
February twenty third. Now the next thing that's happening, Oh,
and you can go to Jill Scott heron Bluesology all

(35:12):
one word, Jill Scott Harron Lousology, no dash between Scott
and Aarons. Just Jill Scott Hearn bluesology dot com for details.
Because we've got about five or six people already said,
hey girl, I'm catching a plane.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, wait a minute, I know you see Oh heavy,
Wait that's a little while.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Wait what's that? I was just saying?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Stay?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Oh, okay, people with you think you thinking of a
reason to go, right, I don't mean you're reason enough
for sharing that with us.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
You know, we're gonna tell everybody and their mama.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Now there's one more thing that's happening in Los Angeles, Okay,
next month, November fourteenth, at the Hudson Theaters, the Pacha,
the Peach International Film and Arts Festival is honoring me
with a life Fine Chief Men Award.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Well congratulations, say it's just say your first lifetime achievement award.
So when you get like that twenty third one, you
know you can kind just gonna hang all the people
with the rest of your brothers and sisters like this
and you have never seen like taken by you know,
the accolade that I have to. I mean, you're the

(36:21):
same person every time we talk to each other, every
time we're there. And I didn't understand why people want
to try to change you. If somebody want to change
you and say, well, no, you shouldn't be doing.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
This, you should be doing that.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's why I'm married thirty seven years. My husband never
asked me to change who I am, ever, because my
philosophy was this, since I don't want you telling me
who to be, I'm not gonna tell you who to be.
That way, we keep the nights and even you know,
see and the changes. For those of you out there
who are looking for long term relationships or you're in
rocky relationship or whatever, here's the deal. You have to

(36:57):
want to love, you have to want to get over
those hurdles, you have to want to do it together.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
And then the others w is you have to work.
You have to do the work people say, manage, Oh,
hockey wear, hockey wear A wedding.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
There, so we got a big party and we can
open up.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
All the kids to everything. And then a few months
late after y'all to spend thirty thousand dollars on a wedding.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know, I mean, I give you my money back.
You know, I want all my money back right now.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know what I say, the fine thing. I want
to close with the way it finished.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, no, I know. But that's the case because I
often get excited and I forget to say this. My
monster is always remembered to love yourself twenty four seven
three sixty five because if you don't, who will.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
That's why I live my life. Mother loves, because you
have to do this, you know, we have to be
to set an example. I remember my husband and I
were walking the red carpet, right, and so it would
have a lot of reporters and everything, and so when
it was coming, you know how they put their name
off first, and then when you go down the red carpet.
So the lady at the you know, the was holding
up the card and she said, oh my, that it's.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
So good to see you out.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So is your husband here? I said, yeah, he said,
And another reporter said, you got the same husband. See
that's what I understand.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
To my acquaintance and say, I didn't know you were
married because my husband keeps us behind the scenes, he.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Stays in the back. But that I knew you were married,
and everybody know who I'm married to the point that
don't let me walk in the door by myself and
he's just knock on by myself and.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
He's not with me.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Hey, mother, let up were Kenny. I'm like, do I
have to pack to my hit? No, that would just
be too funny. I understand about the thirty seven years.
You see when you get up here with us in
the city park, in the pity part, that's when you know,
people used to think he was crazy because I was
the loudest, wildest, undisciplined person on our yard at the

(38:54):
Ohio State University. And everyone says he's got to d
of magical but husand he's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
You know Jesus, yes so, And I tell people listen,
unless you you'll understand what my marriage is and what
I do.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You need to get some business?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hey, you know what they need?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Tissed off because you got a hood. You know, I'm
sorry said that they he tissed off when they find
out you got a husband. I dagh when say you
know I'm married.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
I don't know if they get pissed off, but you
can see this, you know, the big DP slaves It's like, okay,
see how see how sweet you are?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You just clean that right up?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Gotta get that. I'm like, oh yeah you oh now
you want to find out back your stuff up. I
just don't get it kind of the agreement my husband
that I have, or the understanding he is. He knows.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I mean, I'm actively in the business. I'm a hugger,
I'm a kisser. I'll kiss you on the cheek, I'll
kiss you on the neck, you know, and if I
know you well enough, I might give you a little
peck on the on the list, you know, like your
brother or whatever, you know. And he's he's okay with that,
you know. He said his friends have come to him
and saying, hey man, you know, wipe you all over everybody.

(40:07):
You're just saying nothing to come home with me.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's in the husband hand. But after because if that
wasn't the right thing, I mean, my husband said those
exact words. Let her get Let's get a love out here, mother, love.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I'd like to introduce you to someone.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I would love to meet someone just like my granddaughter.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh my goodness you those eyelashes. Oh I pay money
for mine, and look that braid.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Get you close because they can see you.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh, but now I can see you. Now, what's your name?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
My name is kelike you can tell it Isabella. You
just came Callie.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
It's two hard to sell caliope.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yes, people don't have caliope.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I gotta talk kalaikey? How how I? Oh? P do
you think? O?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
L I old? PC? And I have my name?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Do you have?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm gonna have to write their name down so many
words I can get out of your name. Have you
ever tried that before? Okay? So what you do? You
like the person? And if you got a middle name, right,
the first, middle and last name, and then you start write.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
My middle name and they haven't learned how.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
To sell it.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Oh, you can sell it's Abella.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I S A B E L L A.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Oh I mean, I mean he's spella in my name.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
It's okay, let me shot it.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
So how old? How old are you?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Because I think how old are you?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I am in seven seventh from now, I'm like six
and a quarter.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
When is your birthday in December?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
My birthday is in December?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay? So we were born in the same month. Oh yeah, yes,
I was on December twenty nine, So.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
You got twenty Oh my daughter, her auntie, my daughter
Felicia was born December twenty ninth.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh party, birthday party. I hear her birthday party.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I'm gonna put the camera back on me. We're gonna
walk to the car.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Okay, to the one one child.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I have to go get the other one.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I will be hey normally Iroquois. That's why we're going
to get Iroquois. Normally I don't pick up on Wednesday.
But my daughter, she owns her own business and she
had a client call in Booksport today.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
What does he do?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
She owns her own mobile massage business. Oh, it's called
in Touch Massage. And she also has a brick and mortar.
She has a facility as well, at the corner of
Manchester and lati Hera and Eton, Westchester.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Oh, well, look us up. You know, I would love
to be the talk to her because so many expects
in our community, so many people even though you topped
it up right nicely, that's they probably I'm gonna use
that word in front of me hearing okay, and after
say she wants to come on a program because loving
and supporting women's own businesses and authors. Well, you know

(43:15):
that you're an author that gets hit her and I
get like an author, a dancer, a musician, a writer. Uh,
she just has a new series of books out. It's
called What's One with My Why did the idet persisted?
Come up? My children's books?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
What happened was when I was a kid, I got
picked on for not combing my hair because I have
big feet, or you know, any number of things. And
then when you have grandkids, you know, you learn a lot.
You relearn a lot. And what happened I was asked
to participate in a book event at the wily A
Playhouse in Englewood. And because the person who produced the

(43:58):
event knew that I have books to published books, the
oracle feet just because and full circle balance in life,
and she said, you have children's books too, don't you?
I said, I will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Night, I did well, I had to.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
The next day I was sharing it with my daughter Felicia,
and I thought of the light bulb went on. I said,
wait a minute, I could make a series, because the
first one I did was you know, my theater two
being that was the title. But then I when I
thought about doing it as a series, I said, no,
that's not that title is not going to work, what's
wrong with my dot dot dot qu exclamation points and

(44:40):
then underneath tee, underneath feet, underneath hair, under whatever, you know.
And that's how it became, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
The other books I have, I have oh, an inspirational
booklet much like a Daily Word called The Oracle, presents
ten pages of nothing, nothing but the truth. And both
the children's Theories and the Inspirational Booklet series there are
five volumes right now. I'm in the process of expanding.
But this ADHD mind of mine. You like I said,
you do a project, get it done, and.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Go to the next because okay, I can do that.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Oh, I can do that parts with inspirational uh stuff
on it.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
You gotta send me some.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I'll send you the whole package.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
You know I have a Oh, I have a.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Flash drive that contains my fifteen song CD flash poll,
this song and poetry because I do spoken word with
with music and what happens. And it also has my
two videos, Freedom Wakes Me Up, which I debuted in
twenty thirteen at the U N and American Soldier We Care,

(45:46):
which I did in collaboration with the then First Lady
Michelle Obama and Second lady Joe Biden. So they get
you met the damn text me your address, I'm one
here and what is the ups now or whatever?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Or who know? Look, don't get me started. I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I just get it from the.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Door, put it behind the mailbox for the for the
letter carrier to come and get it. Shit in the main,
like too are convenience for these young people, you know?
And they I mean when I went into the when
I went into this fancy for restaurant, and when it
got into this lady's room. Okay, I look after see
comes around like I don't know where it comes from

(46:29):
the word, but it comes around and cover your seat
cover then you touch if you wave your hand.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Over the cornooll.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
When those first came out, I was like, really, then
you'll keep most of us out of the day now.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
And I know what a bedet does. And I don't
know why they have them in the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I know, Bill, but I do.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
And so we don't even need to retire our shoes.
The kids won't learn to cut sobriety. They'll never learn
how to write a check or have a bank account.
I'll be crypto and you never see money again. That's
why when I did, I'm gonna be stopped poy, you know.
And it's scary. They want a smart phone, smart TV,
a smart refriger. I kind of want my house to
stay dune, you know. I don't want to. I don't

(47:07):
want to smart. And my husband is a gadget fanatic.
It's so many wires in this office.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I don't even know what they go through.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
And he came on and said, oh, we're gonna start
putting t shirts and tucks and that compass. We who
he'd have found something else for me to do. You know,
now you accomplished so much. What what are you working
on now? I know this city of the Children's well,
what's wrong with my No, because somebody gonna always tell
you something wrong with you. I used to hate the

(47:34):
little boys because they would say, oh, she's so scusey,
she's a little olive boy like people were like, and
I was so self conscious because I was the smartest
person in my family. And you know, my sisters and
brothers are traumatized me more than sometimes your parents do.
But they're not like getting beat up by your by
your sister. I ain't the one time and my oldest
sisters her, she's the oldest me, and then there's four

(47:56):
more behind me, so they're six of us. And we
were all teenagers together. And I was always impressed. If
I became an adult, then there was my mother. How
she made it through and not poisoned all of us
because I found about teenage just make you understand why
some species eat they're young, you know, because you and
they want to stand toe to toe with you. Oh,

(48:18):
I'm gonna tell you what all was frying, sary touching,
because you imagine slamming the door in your house. M
Can you imagine slamming a door in your parents' house?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Oh? Oh, oh oh, when when I'm sharing my story would.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
No, no, I know, oh, we know.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
We come from a generation when all your mother had
to do was look at you a certain way. And
it wasn't a dress, It was a.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Promise, right and beside beside, un can ask you sidey
because everything you're doing and see that, she said, girl
like a baby.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I got eyes in the back of my head and
she went to pull up wigs up one day and
I was like, Mama, please.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Please, Mama, please, it's our first live it is you.
Please go for your wig off. The host asked her, uh,
so what kind of a title was She like, uh,
And I was like, please, God please.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
She saw all honey on you the whole of the show.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
For that, I just said we had to surprise her
and support her.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
So they just left me a big giant okay, bringing
Mother Loves Mother.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Nim on hair and so oftentimes your siblings will treat
you worse.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
My sister used to.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Beat me, and I'm and I didn't want any her
touching me under any circumstances.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
And one time she and you know how to get
like and Mama tell you go.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
How to get a switch and get three switches and
they they'll not be little and break them up.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
She was like, somebody go get me a high live paddle.
You know, a high live.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Paddle is limited game that. It was a wooden board
that with the girl.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Band and ball on.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
He would get that, snatch the ball off and be.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Wearing on you.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
And I was like, okay, I'm not gonna be dealing
right with that. And I had a smart Alex mouse
and I can talk her all of them and everything
was like at a fever pict and like I'm saying,
I gotta get away from its crazy came to California
when oh that was fruit. Let's since crazy came right
with men, so I was gonna leave it, and frazy

(50:25):
just comes with me, and it's I was saying earlier
about the myths the mis information people get about people
who are in California. They assume everybody is from someplace else,
like there're no native Angelinus. And I'm like, okay, and
I come, you're gonna be taking the reputation then, and
then I've been here long enough to be considerous.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
In here twenty plus years. You can consider yourself a quasi.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Oh oh okay, well I'm over head. We've been here
thirty five years. They told me you will give you
a month to stay, and if you don't like it
in thirty days, I will send me back, no harm,
no five And said, okay, send me back, no harm,
no foul. He has been thirty five years. Had I
never got fired until I got actual show.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Business holdout a taking Yes, year, I've been here sixty
six years going on sixty seven. But let me finish
this this radio interview. Okay, okay, we'll talk to oct Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Coholio sixteen. We are not your mother's grandmother.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Okay, there would have been no explanations.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
He used to tell us. She used to tell us,
I'm just men all sixty yea.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I know right now she carried a load of thirty
eight and we didn't realize that she actually carried a
loaded gun with her wherever she went because of being
a widow woman with six kids, you know she had.
And my mother's one of the ogs. She wanted them
ogs that you don't expect her to be an oglect
just and that was not my mother. She could cut
you long, short, beep wide and off it. You don't

(52:06):
even know you bleed some different way. Man, I'm like said,
And my mother was a flapper, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
But you know, speaking those James women did, Mike, Remember
I told you about the big fight that my mother
and godmother had and my mother just me but back
when you are fine, they pulled their they pulled their
zip guns out on these subjects. My big my godmother
told me, yeah, he had her zip gun and I hadline.
So it's a homemade gun they used to make.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Okay, So you know when they came out with ghost
guns that could pass through the electron, to pass through
the security, I was like that ain't nothing but a
zip gun.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
And I was like, what's a zip gun?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I'm like most of the women I who cared the
zip gun. My mother carried a loaded thirty eight. I
let it and she said, don't pull it, and don't.
She said, don't pick it, don't take it out, and don't.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
And pull take it out.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You pulled the tripper because you ain't got a business
take it.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
If you put your hand on the gun, you you shoot.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So you have to be you know, you have to
be real mindful on the kind of people get you around,
because you know she can't. She shot up in the
ceiling one time in the kitchen in our house. We
was doing sixty bus and when we got sixteen ages,
we can only have one friend in piece. But asked
twelve more people and then my uncle nun. They was
all the same age as we were for the most part.

(53:25):
And she said, I told y'all about making all this noise,
So how you gonna get like eleven teen people to
be quiet. We were like, well, she shouldn't be listening
so hard, okay. And I didn't know that. And before
because we had radiator, he and two of the pipes
led up, put her her room on the second floor,
and they.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Had a little one of the little.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Washing things that didn't see. We paid no attention to
it as a kid when she told us, I hear
everything you say down here, Mama, what she goes? Oh,
I can hear a rap pists on cotton. Get that
four a visual this is she always takes something. But
we were getting cussed out. He had we had to
have a dictionary, the four a Bible and you could

(54:04):
pick another up. We had the Quran, We had the
rocket Polucian.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
You know, I mean she had all the Catholic Bible.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
The doing did you have the Bible?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
We know? We had a we had a new King
James version, I mean the King James verge.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Who is King James?

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Why he had to write a Bible?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I want to write a Bible too.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
In church, I said. And then when I feel know
what's wrong with this child? She could be possessed. She
wants to write her own Bible. I said, well, James
a whipper King James, why I can't have one? And
said go over The people don't know King.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
James has the Bible rewritten. He wanted to divorce and
it was against the church. So he broke away from
the church, started his own church and had the Bible rewritten.
Shakespeare had a hand in writing the King James Vere.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And there's another thing that people out of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Shakespeare was black.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Good time.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
They told him, I'm like that dude. They he's black.
All the Moors were black, All the Moors still are black.
And they kept up, wait there, I'm amazine farm. I said,
my mama told us about fun and I would going
to my little kid. Boys like that. Hannibal, another black
man under say how many people ever across the elephants

(55:18):
across the house they see. That's why they want to
change history, because they know we're coming up. We're coming up,
We're coming up. So it's been time. And he just
looked worse every single solitary day. And she's just looking
like a champion for the per He looked like he

(55:38):
looks very president. Oh oh, he is so president. He's
you running for the office of the greatest job in
the world and you can't come to an interview. And
his people say, well, he too tired, coming said, and
he's too tired to be on the road to do
his own campaign. And how do you gonna be president
for four years?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Exactly? That's exactly what's sad, Exactly what Harry said. That's
what everybody's saying. And now the Republicans are saying that.
But my thing is this, they really didn't intend for
Trump to run.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
They wanted to.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Get Jadie vancon.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Was not that idiot.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
That's who they really wanted in here. Well, yeah, food
of himself because he's pretty Trump.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
And that's a problem like that because I can it
not uh the I don't call the guys man.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Now A forty fifth says he picked JD. Vance and
that was a big mistake. Can I kick him off
the ticket? Okay, you made that decision because you said
he was the only one that told you he liked you.
If that's your pick of a running maid, you know.
And I don't believe they're saying that he and he
and she are neck and neck and he's she I'll

(56:48):
find enough.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Look, she makes you look like a fool.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
All the way down, up and down the ticket because
you didn't see it coming.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
And when you go ahead, I think what might be
hustling with the poles, which I folks, is happening. What
I think is happening. Is that they're saying, is that
connect to keep people enthused about going out and voting.
If we thought she was winning, we might not go
out and vote.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Exactly. I see I said that to us here because that.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Happened with Hillary. Yeah, that happened with Hillary, and I.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Was pissed off when people did not get behind her
with him, and then we got four years of agony
and another four years of stupidity. And these people are going, well,
it's a commercial with his former top age when they
asked as he fit for a and not pick to
run a dog catching jobs and it's like children and
the grand children, and you would have yourself, well that

(57:40):
would mean he would have emotion, but that was not
out a narcissist. But anyway, I don't even want to
talk about that. Please register the vote, Please go and vote.
This is the weight in for diplomacy. We are fighting
for all of our freedom and I appreciate. See, this
is another thing I think they're lying about. Black men
don't want to back because she is a woman. Now, yeah,

(58:00):
as a member of.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
The Divine nine, that's nine.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Well, you know what, you know what they say if
you tell a lie three times or more people will
believe it, say, and that's tell you how vullible people are.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
And he's just been cramming his stuff down in people's throats.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And thought I was.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Running against another of all, guy, I ain't knowing a
running against a woman, you know, because you're on Time magazine.
He's a beautiful woman. Then he comes back to something day.
Let us say he is hideous and ugly. I'm good and.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
You know what gets three mother loves For those people though,
especially the men and who say I'm not sure a
woman can have it with job, Wait a minute for
you men who come from single mothers, and you saw
your mother work two and three jobs and raise you
and your five brothers and sisters and make sure that
you had as much as you could have, and all

(58:53):
that was, you know, and you can't see that woman.
Can't see the same strength in another woman.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Because they don't get it.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
You're not gonna get it. They have you don't waste.
Their brain cells are stupid, you know, because you could
pick a lot of things, but you can't fit stupid.
And that whole group is they just stopped on stupid.
Paul on Pope, Okay, touching on how they can get
the touch of feet. This is so fun. Give you
a less. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Well, I got kicked off of Facebook and it's I
was too political.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
They oh wait, okay, wait, wait, wait for one man. Okay,
here we we have to we have to wrap us up.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
So please know that we will have you back on
the program.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
The oracle dot cook at gmail dot com. I'll put
it up on to this dot cook at Gmail and TikTok.
I'm on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I got to go. Know that I love you. Think
it's so much.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I love you more, my dear. I have a great
time you too, and everyone else.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Always remember to love yourself twenty four seven three fifty
because if you jump, will that's all we asking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I love you too, piece of blessing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
They hop hand in here, tave me one day at
a time. This Marty, Oh my good, that's the only
Marty I know. Hey, Marty Lewis.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Oh that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I figure will connect. How you doing? Uh huh, that's
stuff ain't no good for you. It is just that

(01:01:17):
a controlled substance. Okay. Well, being in the kind of
thing you've been in, it would seem like, you know,
the body can can tolerate a lot more.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
Okay, so is it helping? Oh okay, okay, you just
told him that two years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
This is not working for you. Hey, you can not
getting the relief that you need hm mm. And that's

(01:02:49):
not helping either. I missed you too, tighten assure you
you you don't have anything to apologize for. You think
I don't know what you're going through it, so you
got to know that that's not even a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I want you to be all right, it's getting better
and better.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
It's getting better and better every day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
M you do help.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
And you just being Marty and just knowing I could
come and talk to you and they don't have to
be a you know, long drawn I just know you
can always talk to me. We gotta just keep on
each other, uplifted in prayer, keep on the people that
we love, up lifted in prayer because you know, God
changes everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
You just have to believe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
And that's important too, because when you're a k, when
you're con when you're when you are cognitive of what
you need to do with your health and you know
that you can do that, you know, do it like
eating an elephant. Do it one bite at a time.
You know, and know that and believe that you will
get better, believe that you will be well. You gotta
believe that you will be well. Uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
See that's what do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You could tell her all your see because that she
won't remember, and then you get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
You get it out consistent because I told somebody it
was she resistant to me, so let me just get
this out two minutes later. She can't forgot that. See,
that's the reason for you got.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
M h m hmm. It's it's your mentality. It's what
you think and Andy, and hell that's on guarding you,
cause you got to do the work too, my and
you got to do the work. And if this was easy,
anybody could go through it and come out on the
other side. That the strong it is. This is a process,

(01:06:07):
you know, and it's an ongoing process. And you gotta
ask the doctor's questions about the medication. If you take it,
how is it interacting with each other? You have a
right to speak up. And if you don't like that, doctor,
get another one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Is is it in medicare? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Okay? I what I never heard of that? What's that for?

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Where? Flag? Where? Flag? Where flag that when they got attentions,
I could go to sleep, but I would have these
whole wistic nightmare. I mean, Kennedy said, I'd be jumping up,
screaming and that would be horrible nightmare. And after about
a two fives, I said, you know, the doctor said,
give you that time, some time to get through your system.

(01:07:25):
And I was saying, I don't think i'ma be taking
this no more. And I told her I'm not taking that.
We got to find something else. And then when I could,
they couldn't get the uh ozentfic end. These people out
here California an't about that got on my nerve. I
can't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
And people don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That they don't have diabetes, don't know what that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Doing to deliver to their panther to their heart.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
You take to something that's awful. No, I'm back on
my ozmbic. So that's the same thing, just a different name,
made by the same company, Ozembic, Mandalou.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
What's the other one we go be?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It's like three or four of them are It's all
when you look down and you see what it is,
it's all got the same measure ingredient. And they just
gave it a fancy name and the logo and have
the dancing I I got, you know, I got type
two diabetes, but I'm not gonna get well. I was like,
they are not trying to kill diabetes. It's too much
money in it. They not trying to kill you. There's

(01:08:23):
too much money in it. And they can build. And
you've got the right to say no, I don't want that.
That that's good. And you were on one hundred and
seventy five milligram me, now you go take it at
twenty five. They weren't really over medicating you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, oh well it's starting to get cold.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
All it won't be this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
And they they've been.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Asking him, you know, I'm you know y you I
well see how Robert Kennedy's cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Uh it it it just you know, and I just
don't wanna be around him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
It's two toxic and they dropping. My relatives are dropping fast.
My mother's oldest sh she was older than him, but
my oldest uncle, he just died a couple of weeks ago.
And then my aunt, his sister, they found her son
dead in a fast food restaurant my bathroom from a
drug overdose, and it was like one died on uh Friday,

(01:09:50):
and the next one died on Saturday night Sunday morning.
Oh girl, women. So when I was talking to my aunt,
she said, oh god, don't you be sorry. I did
everything I could form and she did everything she could
for him. Then drugs just had a bigger hold on it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
My aunt was you know, she's like real religious, and
you know, she go to church three times a week.
And now her daughter's got five girls or four girls
and a boy. But now she got five kids and
they all live together, and she's a she is her
daughter is a emergency room nurse, so she get to

(01:10:28):
see all the blood and Gordon stuff and carrying on.
So they can they take me care of the kids.
They are just the little kids are just beautiful and
they're so smart. Oh my god, I'm talking to a
six year old.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
She's the granddaughter one of the guests I had, was
the guests I had on today.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Just as smart as I said, hold are you Colliabe?
She said, aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
My brother's in December and I'm gonna be seven in December.
So right now I'm six and three quarters and well
I've been saying these kids tell you that all that,
I'm just saying, I'm gonna know what's your age. I'm
seventy and a half. Uh huh, alright from.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Nineteen fifty three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
This is two thousand, twenty three, twenty twenty four, right,
there's twenty twenty twenty four. I was born in sixty three. Honey,
we up there in the letters now. And I know why.
I know why women that get to bri stop wearing

(01:11:32):
a Brazil. I'll see. I have to because I go
out in public and they be doing what's what's that
on your knees? And look like two big knots on
your knee? Those will be my breast, thank you very much,
and so oh not if I can help you, I
understand because I don't like having clothes on now, so
I have to go. I have to go get me

(01:11:54):
and make me some soft clothes I can just put
over and with these all the eight all the elmas
I got, h I'm trying not to be sick of.
I'm getting ready to scooter because you're gonna like nothing
touching you sat out Mark see you that you go

(01:12:16):
walk around buck Rent as long as you want to.
And I get mad when it just stop over? Why
you ain't called y'all know I don't like phantom visited,
call and let me know you coming. H See. Yeah,

(01:12:42):
I didn't know much and you don't know that those
skins construct that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Far on your on your on your bod. I was like,
I can't even.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
See the doctor in the doctors circle because he said, well,
you gotta hold them up if you want to see him.
M I see, you know, I see I Honestly, God,

(01:13:12):
I never expected to live this long. So I know
I'm on house money cause I'm doing as the punch
as I can while I can. I'm, you know, dealing
with all these elements, just getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
I got one for the Iron office.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I said that Marty asked me when did I When
did I get Oh? When did you get? Ask me?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
When did I get old? I?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Oh, I already told you, I said, I've already told
you about asking me when did I get old? I
already told you the b punk line for that one,
the punchline for five. Okay, Well it just went out
of my head. I was like, I can't remember it. See,

(01:13:51):
that's what happened to me all the time. I'm'na had
to put color c color coded utensils in the uh
in the drawer so I could know what I'm picking up.
Got a color cold and and uh uh I've been
on this website that is truly ec and I have
got to get off of it. I'm just like totally addicted.

(01:14:14):
He moved, t E. If you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Don't see, you're not helping.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
You are not helping. See. They've been bothered in me
because I left stuff in my card and all I
do is go back and add to is an ad
to an add too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
And I'm like, oh d I'm down. I'm over it now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I m hm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, h.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Who who knows who I am?

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Who is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Okay, Steve Harvey so I Steve Harvey. Yeah with Steve

(01:15:40):
Harvey son. Oh that's cool. That's just that' something. How
they they if they have the same passion as they
did twenty years ago, well as the guys do. The
show was on Saturday at final prior we reminisced about

(01:16:01):
that episode from Forget and Forget and he wanted he
loved telling me, well, you know, myther love. This was
twenty six years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Twenty six years they still.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Love you, you know, and I gotta be out here
with them on this whole Uh. Well, Kennedy helps me
be on the on the when you when you send
it out, blasting it out on the on the podcast
and what have you in a different platform. And he
does that. And today I had she was on my
show seven years or eight years ago at the LA

(01:16:33):
Top Radio and she we just had a great conversation.
She's called the Oracle. Uh huh oh, that's wonderful. That

(01:16:54):
is wonderful. Okay, I got a little bathroom. I'm sitting
here holding it till Keny and came out. I will
tell you that I love you. Say hey, heyday. Yeah.

(01:17:31):
Can you come ahead, get this close? Oh come adam

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fo e