November 8, 2024 • 60 mins
My name is Wayne Mabry. I became a Raiders fan in 1970, back in Mississippi while watching the Raiders play the Chiefs. My transformation into The Violator takes about an hour and a half to complete. I am then ready to be an Ambassador of the Game -- NFL Football. I currently live in Moreno Valley, CA where I recently retired after 36 years in the Carpenters Union (#1506). Some of my accomplishments, over my 24 years of being The Violator, include being inducted into the NFL Hall of Fans in 2000, appearing in several commercials: Coca Cola, Direct TV, Bud Light, Tide, and the NFL Network. Shaleaf Perkins, professionally known as Mr. Greenleaf, is a certified recording engineer, record producer, and a multifaceted creative specializing in computer graphics, animation, film, and video editing. With eight Raider Nation albums to his credit and a highly anticipated final release on the way, Shaleaf has firmly established himself in the music production world. Beyond music, his video production work has amplified the voices of his group, 4Dub, and numerous other artists across the U.S., showcasing his passion and expertise in bringing visual and auditory experiences to life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three two, A cyber baby. It's the even more savvyest
abouted mother Love coming to you talking about live and
living color. I'm all decorated and looking all cute, because
I have a decorator looking all fine. This gad has
you got about a fan, especially a fan of football.
(00:21):
You guys know that I love football, and this guy
has taken he's one of his missions and turned it
into just something absolutely wonderful. And I love him. I
love him, I dude. His name is Wayne Marbery. You
will recognize him as the violator at the Waiters game.
Oh my goodness, welcome to the program. It's good to
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see us always.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you, Mother Love. First of all, I'm honored to
be side by side with you talking smack.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh see what see? Well, we talked a real smack though.
We talked to smack that you can't make up. We
talked to smack that you had that you looked through.
And you know what difference between what is and what
I ain't?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Why didn't like you're talking.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So and having? And people always thought I was the
only girl and a brother and a brew full of brothers.
There was four girls and two two guys. Four girls
and two boys, and our mother was a football fanatic.
I didn't even know she could get crazy like that.
We're from Cleveland, Ohio. She has a die rided die.
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I don't care what you say. We could be losing,
we could be knowledge. I'm gonna stick with the Browns.
Tell me about you ain't. And when did you realize
that started loving football?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think I was probably four or five. You know,
I wasn't even in grade school yet, but I used
to sit up and watch the game and it just
caught my attentions because to me, football was like the
Gladiators and the arena. Already. You can tell I'm into
Night's swords stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Her. I know her armors and and that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so it just immediately called my attention. You got
eleven guys on east side running beating him out of
each other to the ball, and that was like the
in Lord of the Ring. That was the precious the football.
So I immediately looked at it as man old man
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combat and it just I was so thrilled about it.
My mom used toy. I used to just sit there
and she would be calling me. She could not get
my attention while the game was on. So I consider
myself kind of a student of the games. But anyway,
fast forward until I'm twelve years old and I'm watching
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the Raiders play the Kansas City Chief. Now my color
or my favorite color is black. He got I've had
a silver and black and they zoomed that on a
helmet and I saw a shield with two crossed swords
and a one out of time mother love. I feel
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in love. My heart was smitten, as they used to
stay back in the day. I was spitting at twelve
years old. So my quest begins, where is the team from?
Because I had no ideas, but I'm gonna go wherever
they are to live out my life. I wasn't really
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happy with where I was, and I knew there was
something better from me. So that began that passion, even
at twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's what I'm you know, tipping about because you know
and when you know it's something that you are supposed
to do or something that you want to do. Now,
was it something that you had to do? Was it
something that you wanted to do? And did it a
call to you to say come in here with me
something like you said something struck in a fig that
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's where that's where it hit me, but blave in
my spirits. I never spoke about it to anybody, but
it was just like, wherever that shield is, that's where
I want to go live. So in my I put
that in my mind before high school, wherever they are,
and I restarted researching. You know, it was no Internet
like we're talking now. I had to go to the
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library and uh, you know, growing up in Mississippi's it
was not a whole lot of information about California. So
I would go through encyclopedias and I ran a fun
Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So history class began to be my most favorite class
because every time California came up, I was all is.
I was locked in, as I say, so you know,
I would I would listen to those classes and just
dreams and I'm gonna get to that later. I would
sit there and dream of myself being there, not knowing
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what the hell the terrain was, like weather or nothing,
but I envisioned myself there or Terraider's games, and like
I said, I just walked out this dreams, like he said,
all the way through high school, my two years at
Jackson State, where I met, you know, Walter Payton, Jackie Schlater,
Robert Brazil.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna even date myself. I'm not
gonna even date myself to say that I know exactly
who you're talking about. These these are legends that you
are talking about. And they were.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
They were like Jimmy God walking across campus. But on
Friday night and Saturday, when they strapped up, they became warriors.
And I admired him for that and I took on
that persona, so to speak. There was a switch that
they hit when they crossed the white lines and then
they became gladiated to me. So, you know, after a
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couple of years of observing them, and some of them
got drafted. Most of them this they got drafted. I
color got depressed, and I'm saying I'm done with college,
even though my news that was gonna break my mom's heart,
but I had to follow my heart at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
What did you go to college for? I was an
art major, okay, telling me surprised, Yeah, telling our surprised. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I am an audience by by the gifts of God.
So that's what mom wanted me to go and make
my living doing so now today I can say to her,
which I did before she passed, that every day that
you see this, I'm using my art as it's seen
around the.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
World, and it's it's it's just so unique. Now, did
you come up with the idea of the strikes on
your face? Or did other people? Did they have input
into how you became a violator? And I want after that,
I want to know, and I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna tell, So go ahead and tell the story, and
I'm gonna tell man, like, after.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, let's do this, we're gonna play some handball. So anyway,
what you see is a spirit that was inside of
me as a youngster. Like I said, the Knights were
like who I wanted to be. The Superheroes were what
I thought I could be. You know, they were the
good guys, but they were strong, you know, and they
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had a purpose with what they did. So this, this
image that you see in front of you is just
my persona that's inside. Every day when I pay him
up and dressed him up, you get to see him
live how I feel all the time. So it's just
a tendered spirit that all of us have. But now
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I've got an outlet to let this guy breathe and touch.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Other people, and you do, and specially what had actually
around with the kid, And now thin didn't really only
one of you? Or is it like eleven team violators?
Because I see you at every right or game, there's
only one I now see. That's that's when you know
you a bad mom, a bad motor scooter because and
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he brings such life and such energy and what I
wanted to let people know that, yeah, this is a
rough shot put persona and he's playing a violetter like
a gladiator, and you he are you are also a
gladiator at heart, because I've watched you with children. I
watched you be around, especially the young guys, you know,
who really don't know where to go, what to do,
(08:28):
and they I watch it, you know, come up left
to you and money Ki. He could have been no
more than twelve or thirteen. I don't even remember what
game it was, but I saw you embrace this kid
like in the awkward stage. You know, they you know,
they don't know what's going on and hormones going wild
and my lives and my my and you just put
your arm around his kids, and I could see his
body's language change, just like you putting your arm around
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his shoulders.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Just like conversation is a way to plant seem touching somebody,
you exchange energy. So when I do that, they feel loved,
not they don't feel intimidated or anything. And you can
sell them relaxed. But once you get them that clothes
mother love, that's when I'm finna get some on them.
Because all I am is a mentor sharing my wisdom
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through my travels, and everybody is different, so hopefully something
that I say will kill a spark in them and
just have them to raise their different things. Because we
are the sons and daughters of the kings, so nobody
really can touch us once we realize our purpose and
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the whole journey is about, and.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
We don't we gonna let them know when you aim
for the King or clean better not mess. You came
in and see when did you understand and at what
age were were you going through that you could you
could even be able to talk about God and share
your skills to journey because you know a lot of
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people don't want to hear what we have to say
about that. And you you I mean, and you do
look intimidating. I mean, I know you're not intimidating, and
that's one of the beauty things, beautiful things about you.
You might look intimidating, and then when they see pass
the strength and they hear your heart and they hear
your voice because you got to flesh it, I'll be
I'll be paying at pattire now. And just something simple
(10:24):
like putting your armor around a young kids. I don't
even know if you said anything to them, because you know,
your back's kind of like tim and I don't even
know if you said anything. I just saw this kid
go for my sins. You put your own wanted and
they went like this, And that was what I saw.
And to have that, When did you know that you
had to incorporate your faith walk with what you do.
(10:45):
But being up you know the die hard radar nation
do what die? Your giant drop, a water kill, a
rock fall, radar nations per When did you when did
you know? When did you realize I have to do this?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, I'm I'm gonna go back in town a little
bit and then fast forward.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, I grew.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was brought up in the Bath Southern Baptist Church,
so you know Sunday was not only football days, but
church day. So I was the type of kid that
used to walk out in the clovers to get my
footstong by bees, so it would swell up and I
couldn't get my shoes on. That was gonna be a Sunday.
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I'm gonna get all the football in.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Wait a minute, you gotta playing. I'm Gonawaiian.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Let m be swell up and back walk back.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
When they find out that you were up to, just
kind of sell bugly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Look that was That was the Dennis and minings. I
called that was the Dennis the mining.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But you know it was.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And my teachers used to say, you have a very
vivid imagination, and I took that as a copper do.
So you know, I tried this trick a few times
and it worked first couple of times, and Mom caught
onto it. Every first Sunday, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Be there all day, all day.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So every first Sunday I would go to Staday before
and get them walk out there, get my feet hung
up so I couldn't get her those wing tips that
she used to have us wear.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Black toes are like that, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
With the little with a little stamp on the tour.
Everybody in those wing tips. Now that's the fashion. Back
then we call them broke in. Couldn't tell them up.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And they would get me and they were they were
all so handy, you know the man. You know, you
would conquer like a fankistan walk.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, like one like class there years coming and
you know back then we wore taps on them to say,
and then don't be able to dance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's the kind of stuff that you know when they
talk about going back and you know Renaissance and you know,
having the memories and what have you. I mean, I
had great memories of growing up, and you know that's
what I don't see in our kids because it's so
dangerous out there today. When you've got to pray for
your child to go outside to go to school in
Nord Jesus let him be back home and say that
all the children come back home and say, and you
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can't seem to grow in the grocery store, in the
church or you know, any place with that, and have
to be cognitive of what if somebody comes in here
and start shooting up the place that's taking them. So
much about energy and so much creativity or awaiting from
the world where you've got to focus on this crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Good and and being in church all the time. There
was a book called Revelations got the Bible said now
we are living and times right now. But as a kid,
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I remember all that talk and it was like, oh yeah,
you old folks think you're gonna scare me with that
fire brim saw. I ain't buying into it. But going
back to your previous Querson when it hit me that
the spirit was there and he had been walking side
by side with me. Now I was about to retire
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from working as construction worker and I was disabled, and
I didn't really know yet, but I kept hearing a
void say go and get yourself checked out. And I
ended up getting an MI because you know the HMOs
out here in California especially, you know, I had to
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go through the gauntlets, you know, go to see the
chiropractice and they would crack you. And then two days later,
I'm back in the same position of pain. So I'm
thinking that ain't working.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So they went to uh TT which because that that
didn't work, that caused.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Me more pain. So once I went to that and
I go back to my what they called your primary physician,
and he's looking at all these results and what happened
three sessions and I just hit him up and I said, look, god,
you know what's the next step. I mean, I was
calling it a cat skin, but it was really an MRI,
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which what I needed. So he put me in for that.
He said that's the last thing we would offer because
of the car. So that started to change the way
I looked at the whole medical field. But we'll get
to that in another talk. So anyway, I got the
MRI done and come to find out I had something
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called Oh I would butcher up the name, so I'll
just say I have degenerative discs. After thirty five years
of you know, heavy labor, plus lifting weights and playing
sports and all that stuff, I had just grounded everything
down to almost where it's touches. So the surgeon, when
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he got the result, he called me in and he's
looking at it. So I'm looking at the skeletal structure
in but he says, you notice their space between everything, right,
He said, that's called going out. Now I've heard that
turn going out, so I'm looking at him. He says
that means I can't fix that. So he says, go
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tomorrow and retire from your union because you've got the
time in. So that was a that was a that
was an instant of fear. That flush threw me like retire.
I don't have enough money to retire, and so I
go home, you know, and discuss it with my wife.
But his voice is with me saying.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'm thinking, okay, I'll get back to that. That was
the man of says, just talking to me the whole time.
I got you. Do what you gotta do and keep moving.
So I go in, put in my paperwork, got everything going.
My retirement pension started to come. But when it came
around to getting the full disability, that's when when Satan
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reared his head and uh, you know, I got my
day in court. You go before you know, a judge
in your district, and he denied me. Hey, he's looking
at my medical records. Now I know I'm getting all
off track.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No no, no, no, I'm just trying of I'm I'm keeping
up with you because now you go through all these
the scenes to come back full of something.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Trust. So he denied me, and you know, I had
this this tranting company from out of Boston of all plays, Alston,
Massachusetts that was doing this, representing me pro bonall this.
I turned me down. Well anyway, when I walked into
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the courtroom, he says he made this statement, and that
was the downfall, you know for somebody's fifty nine. You
look pretty husky to me, and immediately coming from the south,
I knew that was a that was a jam. So
my eyes were like blood red. But I knew I
couldn't explode to say nothing. But I'm looking at this
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guy and if I could get to you, you know
what would happen. So I'm sitting there and I'm pretty
ticked off. So he goes through the hole to nine
and there's a boldcational specialist there with me from my trade,
and that showing him a grasp. I started in seventy eight.
I peaked at whatever year it was, and I started
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to slide down, which is a normal, you know, So
in our flat lining, that means he's done, especially with
the condition that I he denied it in spite of
all that. So shows you how I go home and
I'm really upset now because that's half of my income
that I'm living on today. That's over.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You are deserved for a conversation for the work that
you put in, and you already and sometimes you know
people that are in a position of power. I don't
care how many scule it is or how many people,
and they seem to get our joy out of watching
us suffer and seeing how we're gonna come out of this.
And then when you do, they always got they put
on your neck, always got they put on your neck.
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And then you know, we got a scared of that,
just like this make they come in, but we know
how to come out the buildings standing straight up, standing tall.
And that's why the power comes in because they want
to scare you. Oh no, why should you get one disability?
You know, and you've got somebody there that's helping you
and telling this story, and you know what it was.
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You know, they still color struck. That's I got an
iron back. That was an iron back exactly. Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I knew exactly what it was. My spirit felt it.
I didn't even have to hear it, but hear it.
That went straight through my spirit, and it just I
knew what I was dealing with. I'm sitting there being
as quiet as possible. My attorney never said a word.
So when I go back, my love, but it almost
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takes me three years to get back around to another
cordate and I go before the same guy because he's
gonna make sure I'm gonna cut this guy's legs from
on him second time. But this attorney firm, and I'm
going to put their name out there because I love
him that Muchanella and Mama love and the name makes
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me land still. But those guys do not play.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
It sounds like as it yes, like banana. Yeah's too good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
His opening statement, the phenography, I guess typed it down
because when she did it, she peeped around the wall
the petition to look at me. And as soon as
I saw her face, I'm like, oh she heard it too,
That's all I said to said, Oh, she's like, who
is he throwing to like that? So this is all
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on the tape, the man and so the court session,
you know, when it goes back to Boston and against
the big guys in the firm year they put him
on their target. Whenever court date, we're gonna send the
closer back, which is a different attorney.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The other one was considered a noodle anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But so I'm saying, Oh, so God had a hand
in this. So they're sending the closer out, and they
that a form for me to still out. I'm giving
you a lot of information.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yes, it's in our program. We can do what he want.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going because this
was to show him and I'm putting it in the
spiritual take don't mess with a child of the king.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And now when you knows, I understand what that means.
He knows there not even in the mindset in the
spirits said and then you got to what they say
when you go anybody to put on the whole armor
of God, put.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Your armor on. That's what I'm saying. So that is
your cloak of arm when you believe and have faith.
But so I'm sitting there and this closer came. He
pulled me to the way they call a five balls
and he talked to me for about ten minutes. Paid,
you're getting ready to get paid today with back page
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and what he says. When they we went back and
we played the minute, and the big bosses heard that
he was put on a target on their calendar that
whenever he says, I was already selected to go and
close the deal. And he said, if you had been
a little white lady that there were, you would have
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gotten paid the first time. So this is when I
learned how the court system actually works when people of
us are Hugh walks in there and he says, just
sit back. You know, he had his little American flag
on his affair. He's kicking back, little aging guy. I'm listen.
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If i'll see him today, I've given a huge hug.
He just says, sit back and relaxes. You probably won't
have to say nothing, but yes, you go. That was
all mother love. That's all I said, that whole procession.
So he brought a different vocational specialist back to get
a different graphic than they.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He saw before.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's trying all the loops down so so as you
when God opened the door and no man can close it.
So I'm sitting there just like I'm sitting down watching him.
He's just keep down on him. So I'm watching him.
If he goes through the pages and he just he
had this blob, but they blas him and this dude
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the next time when he got to that second to
the last page, I saw a lump in his throat,
and he started to turn a little bit bright, if.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I mean, and I'm thinking, oh.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Something's happened. So he had to read all this stuff
out out aloud and it said that you know, I
had fired my name on it. So he looks at
me first, like what twenty two attorneys in that office
and they all got whatever percentage that the office was
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supposed to get. Yet that same amount plus I got
retro paved for the year and a half that I
had to wait to go back to see it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Pout is good all the time. And you know when
you do something like that, they go, Okay, who was
he talking to? How did he know that you should
be doing this?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I know you did? Oh see all lit And then
when we go have to go to court, and that
that's one of the reasons if I ever have to
go to court again, because you know there's listen, people
want to sue you. You know, they think you drinking
chewing green vaper and drinking eight and runny in the bathroom,
rolling one hundred dollars bit And it don't work like that.
And when you speak tooth to power and you know
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you got people on your side, you could exist. You
just say that to yourself. Well it's gone. Like the
door opens. No man, no company, no entity can ever
close them. And sometimes you see it metaphorically in your life,
and sometimes it's like the actual the door actually does
not Nobody could close the door. I mean you literally
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could not pick up move the door because it's so big.
And that's what we do, that's what we Maybe I'm
just a supernaturalist because I believe that if you if you,
if you really hit God and God really hears you
got a personal relationship. You ain't got to go begging
God or nothing. You ain't got all little please let
me get his good husband, and you take any piece
of God coming off the street with no moral values.
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You know, got four or five baby mamas and all
this kind of other kind of crazy carrying on, and
so to see and you know it's crazy. Soo see
what we married because you are manage being single in
this environment. Most of them couldn't even come wouldn't even
come close. Not to say that they're that. You know,
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my husband and your wife are better than anybody else.
But there's the people up is that they like us anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And when you have that right, one and I'm gonna
put that out there. When you got that right one,
you become complete. There's a balance right there, you know,
regardless of each other's extreme, when they come together, you
at ying and yang come, that means something. So I
learned that over time.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I see and I'm gonna do Mike. I'm gonna do
myke ying and yang because I'm coming to the chair.
I come to the table with him whole he because
I can't pick under that. I listened. I am a wonderful,
awesome mother. I could have done on the page of
the Money bar O, the Mommy book, raising our son.
I couldn't teach the cat how to be a man,
how to be a black man in this racist country.
(27:21):
You know, you gotta sit down and tell your twelve
year old son you have to get pulled.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's twelve.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
What the heck when he needs to be pulling the
police over? And I remember once that him and his
friends they gotta do some trouble. Right. It was in
this store. There was stupid stuff to teenage boys do. Okay,
when they started the police telling me, everybody ran except
his and he was like, man, I'm on, he said,
why am I? Why? I haven't done anything. Okay. Then
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when the police got him and talked to them all
they sent them, told the boys, but we're gonna want
till your parents get down here, come take you up,
and you gotta explain this. Our son said with sitting
He said, he was sitting his chair. He's out the
stake to just go, not because he would sweating so bad.
Because police officers said, oh no, I'm taking you home,
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and he consider, please, please, can't you just lock me up?
He just took me in jail. I think you know
you don't understand my parents are training or they playing. Yes,
do they may tell my mither lady.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Don't tell my father.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh my, I mean he looked. They say a tall guy,
and I could see he was, and we would we didn't,
you know, doing that parental look. He aid, it's as
bad as a bubble gun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And sometimes all it is is just just just a look,
like you said. But that's how we were raised to
have respect, first of all for each other and definitely
the eldest. Anybody in used to call my my neighborhood
the village. You know, they said it took a village
to raise all of them. Could beat your butt if
(28:55):
you got out of line, and then that was a
second one once that word got home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sebringing see that was kind of crazy though, I mean,
let's just keep it real. That was kind of crazy.
You You just got into some trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You got caught.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes, you need to be way commented for it. And
then she said, God didn't give me a switch. Yes,
matter in fact, big three, I'm t I braid him
and they stood in praying it I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Free and they better not break.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Bring me them know what was I wanted? And you
got to go outside and it better not take you
more than five minutes. So I learned how to count
five minutes sixty five times and I was like, okay,
she gotta be the calm down by now. Walking to
the door, she said, oh no, get him to me,
and said when she called me a helper, I knew
I was in big trouble. Help her get over here,
and then be how your mother and grandmother could do
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this thing. You could be way across the room y'all
in church.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Mm hmm. Burn that head and Lord it is I
ain't good.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And now now if you strike your challenge and this
was in them, they'll take you to tell they'll take
you to court. I can tell them all, I said,
you take just be beat of me like this. This
is when they first start having a child abuse center
calls and what have you. I said, I'm from the
Betty pictures, but whatever the name of always because you
be hitting me like this. He said, wait, hold on.
(30:22):
She put on the phone. She said, hold on now,
this is this is who you want to talk to.
I said, well, yeah, ma oh, thed you retreating me face,
You're like, there do you say, went up in this?
When the last time you want a mad brother, don't
make me go down the list. You an't gotta give one.
And they just just like cut to them. And these
kids hard as it kep. A lot of our young
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people really need to have some strong guiding and direction,
not beating them down, not always bringing up them safe
in their faces. Understand what off the time. It's not
a what, it's a why. And the kids don't these
kids don't know how to hope. I mean when I
grew up, there was no I mean, I didn't even
know what the word divorced. Man. It always sounded like,
(31:05):
you know, like one of them nasty words, like you
know I'm like, nobody in our family in the neighborhood,
all the families were attacked of dads that of them
went to work and you know, came home and you know,
they did the family thing. We grew up with a
large neighborhood. We had three families that have fourteen kids
in each family, and that was like in an arms region.
(31:26):
I'm like, so, don't mess with us, because you know,
we kind of great people in the project. We kind
of people each other and we're gonna take care of
each other.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And they don't understand about camaraderie and the importance of
siblings and sometimes sibling liboys, you know, because now you
got brothers and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I know about the rivalry. Yeah that was some
notck down moving furniture, but we straighten it up.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Before got home. Okay, listen.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And then I was I don't know, how did they
always no, they're alway, He's no, it is and.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That is that is important to have a personal relationship
with God, whoever you conceive God to be, whoever is
where you're comfortable, where you feel safe. You know, the
God I serve he is supernac gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
This, you know, he can.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean, how many people can say I was born
in the Major and I'm gonna be the king of
the world. I mean, come on now, and he's having
me be the king of the world.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
How many people do we know that?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And he was a people, He's still a people. You
know that says, Okay, you don't get to do this,
but you get to do that. You know, you don't whatever,
because we always we are always fighting against principalities, and
evil is evil, and Satan is real. Remember Satan believe
in God. Because if they were talking about but that story,
(32:53):
I'm telling if they made all of this up, which
I don't believe they could because men and women are
stupid trying to keep secrets. He said, I am going
to take this down and I am going to build
a kingdom. I will be resurrected and be here with
you in the next life.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
They put him in a tune. They put it down,
rock in front of it. Okay, they walked away. Man
in their own business, come back, I'm gonna say, away
Jimmy and the rock downs.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Then he walking down the street meeting people, all my ters.
When Simon heard it. He could have crapped up. Shut up.
He can't say that about the lim But you know
what I'm talking about. And the fact that we have
instructions in the Bible, and I understand ibody was written
by man. That's why he got the King James version
and I want the Mother Love version. I'm taking all lot,
(33:44):
all them parts out. You know, I'm the only happen
mine to come up with like maybe eighteen books, because
we got fifty six. See minould be a short read.
I know this, Lord, shut up and to see the
King before your eyes. Tell us about some of it
(34:05):
because you do work a lot of work a kids.
Tell us about the uh some of their success does
with the kids and in your walks out and as
he do.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know there there Mother Love. Yeah, I'm glad you
brought that up because that was another time that the
spirit was always speaking to me. You know, I got
involved with these kids through Smiley and Jenny. I'm getting
them a shout out. You already know they are. I
know what. But to the world, that's the raid of
(34:36):
Nation for life car club and uh, this this couple,
I knew him before they were a coupled, but I
met Salaf through Smiley and I called Salif my raid
of poet, and that's what I just we all have purpose.
And as soon as I met him, there was some
kind of energy. I'm like, this guy's a poet, but
(34:58):
he could take that anyway. And you wanted to go
and spread that message like I'm trying to do through
what I do putting the hands on stop.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't want to hear I'm trying. You are doing
the dog gone thing. You know you are doing it.
I'm not gonna allow you to even think of what
you're doing. When you said this earlier and I just
had to hold it back. It was something that you said,
air comes to me white, I'm gonna be in the
beastaple I like, just mayby, just go back to sleep.
(35:33):
I dream in color, and when you see in color.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You do like I'm drawing a picture. So I try
to explain myself. And you see I'm talking with my hands,
so I'm creating a picture that I'm speaking to you.
So getting back to that planting the seeds and all that.
You know, what I'm doing is just showing what I
saw my mom do and just care for other people.
(36:00):
So when I when Smiley took me to this first
event and I met these kids. You know, I remember
feeling myself kind of trying to push back. I didn't
want to feel what I was feeling.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, what were you feeling? What were you dealing?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was that, just that feeling of love. But it
scared me. I'm like, am I getting missed just from
being around these kids? And it was that? Was that?
So as you embraced that? And I told her mad
I told him, I said, you treat me into this.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
He said, yeah, I had to do what I had
to do what I had to do, but that's the way.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And that's how I running jokes. You treat me into
this because I went to a car show thinking I'm
gonna look at cars, but I met the kids and
if the mother love had changed the trajectory of my journey.
You know how people said I just pivoted. That made
me pivot because what I thought I really didn't have
(37:01):
time for is what I got the most pleasure out
of putting time into.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
So ain't not play how I work? You know this
decide ain't not play how it was.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's funny for people that don't know when you know,
just get close enough and that means a lot. Man,
those kids, I call them my hero. And I've watched
some of them, the ones that survived the whole disease
that they were fighting. The ones that survived they're now adult.
Before I just saw them like two or three weeks ago,
(37:34):
to the barbecue that these guys through every year for
the kids, you know, before we take them to a game.
Now this year they didn't go, but we had done
it like three or four five years previously when the
team was in opening. That was like a road trip
for the kids and their family and just to see
(37:54):
the looks on their faces. And they've been through some
traumatic stuff that you know, we complain about, Oh there's
a Mastille in here. These kids are are sometimes strapped
down or having surgerys and this and that everything you
could think of, and all they want to do is
feel love and be played like a kid. So when
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I got closer to them and started meeting the families,
just being there, you know, gave strength to those families
because you can't imagine what stress they were under just
knowing that their kid is deal and this illness may
take them out. And we're talking young kids, you know,
(38:39):
and It just showed me that there's a purpose that
I walked right into. Like I say, it's all I
gotta saying all in God's time. I walked right into it.
But by me not running, it's strengthened me. You know.
It's when you put this on. Now it's a whole
different meeting than it was when I first started back
(39:00):
in ninety one. It was just to go in.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
God, tell her to shame the devil. I'm going out
hit the rent tail, see yes. And I have to
say society. I have to say, society treats men better
than they do with it when it comes to I'm
just I no, no, no, no, You're not going out
here to do nothing on on the beacon hap and
running them up. You have to be on a short leaf.
(39:25):
And I was like, I'm not a dog wanted to
be on the leaves. I don't understand that. And I would,
I would think it, but I wouldn't say it because
and you can't even think. My mother, you couldn't even
think it, you could. I'm she used to tell us,
and this wait, before Yoda came out, she had some
Jedi mind tricks on us that weren't even funny. And
(39:46):
then you said, why doesn't she just give me a whooping?
I would, I would, Oh my god, it would be
She was like methodical. So she understand here and she's
gonna learn this lesson, and I'm I'm the best student,
I mean on the arm, the roll. And then that's
the un society, you know, all the something's supposed to
do academically, okay, but everybody wanted me to be at
(40:07):
that party because I was like a party girl. And
so that's gotta be in a lot of trouble, you know,
because well, you and the body you let me right thirty.
I'm like, mana, we don't start picking up with by
eleven thirty. I'm gonna be here eleven thirty. I mon flock,
why you're gonna hear a cross stop? She knew, she knew,
and I I just had to learn to say, okay,
(40:28):
you got to Jedi minded. And a lot of our
mothers have that. You know, they'll they'll they'll call you
up and say, uh, how you feel. I'm like, oh,
I'm okay. You don't sound okay, you don't feel like
I'm she she put in some old JETI stuff on it,
and they know don't tell. So when you first put
on when you first put on the face, now, is
(40:49):
this your design on your face?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes, Now that's back to the question. Yes, this is
my this is my war design to war my mind.
But those stripes represent the officials on the field.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Okay, so really I want to tear a hole in
them too. Okay, that was I mother. I don't want
to tear a hole in that. Okay, that just sounds back.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
That just sound painful.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You've been at one hundred.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
But that's all.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Everything represents something, the fight. That's the pain that you're
gonna feel when I get to you.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
He got a plan.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
He has a plan, people, mother love.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I learned that from my father, who is like a
career military guy paratroopers, So you know, it was a
little squirreling, you know. And he would say, if.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You stay ready, they got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
So that's that's kind of like how I rose.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I think I think it was all the time. And
do you still hear them? Do you still hear your mother? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Look, they both would say when you start hearing the tape,
the seed is wet. She was praying seas when I'm
saying I ain't.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's that's too busy. I don't take up too much time.
I'm all about, you know, instant gratification. And I say this,
you know you you better instantly guided by yourself out
there doing go to work. I've been working since I
was fourteen years old, and so you know, and in
my era, you know, we we were in that in
that gap between you know, the forties and the fifties,
mom and dad, you know, doing all this stuff and
(42:26):
you know, looking all the nice going to the trash can,
and you know all of this, And now I gotta talk.
We got caught in the list. Women, you can do
whatever you want. Go to college, get a good education.
You don't have to go out here and want to
be you know, get married or have killed. What did
you say, woman, I can't have a choice. Oh no,
but I heard that word.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's what this is.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
This, this election is so crazy. Women and men were
just gonna all have to pull together to keep our
democracy a lot. And when you think about that, you know,
we have to be democratic in most of our relationships.
You know you're gonna get I even lose something. But
don't just figure it out that you need to take
the whole time. That's what we're gonna have to keep them,
keep them in line, what keeps doing on it, what
(43:08):
keeps you focused.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
There's another party go around and then you mom says
you can give away some baby. So, like I said,
a lot of those characteristics I carry within me. Those
were the seeds she was planning. So my job or
my doing is to pass that on to somebody else.
Everybody I meet, that's my mission is to just trust
(43:31):
them with something that will enhance their life in a
good way and that they can pass on. So I
got the whole seed thing, and when you speak it
into the universe, you can't suck it back to give
it life.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And I know, I know it my assign I know,
and I didn't know. And when God was having that conversation,
you know, I oftentimes will try to talk God into well,
why you got today? You don't have to question Lord.
You ain't got to question his motive, You ain't got
to question his motorcyple arandi. You just need to be still,
be quiet, feel beating. And even in this day and age,
(44:13):
when we talk about you know, keeping along, having a
long Marriagian relationship and how long it is and how
do you get to that point? What's your magic potion?
There's no such thing as magic potion? Is the every
day is the every day while fight, you know, And
we got to fight together, you know, because when you
walk outside that door, people don't care about you being
(44:33):
a violator. How are we gonna take you downe? Can
we get a piece of that action? Can we just
talk about this suspective for for our young people, the
importance of being in the business. You are in the
business of bringing the violator out to all of these
games where the raiders are. And I don't know if
I said just told you my husband. You've met my
husband on many occasions. See gonna say, if it was
(44:56):
left up to him, you'd be on once for a week,
because you know he left, you know, to get black it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Look, I'm welcome to color. Like I said, it's an
honor just speaking with you today because the last time
we spoke, and if you can go back and lift
at the tape, you said something that kind of almost
threw me off the chairs when you said something about
God had a plan for me and I was gonna preach,
and I kind of pushed back, like, no, I don't
(45:29):
know about all that.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
You know that was at the at the l a top.
Wadill say so it was the.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Video, yeah, And I kind of pushed back, But inside
of me, I'm saying, she's speaking the truth.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
So what I'm doing now is doing my version of
I guess you could call it street ministry. But it's
not so much scripture wise. It's experience wise, knowledge wise,
faith driven, you know, because until is that you just
you're just like a dog chasing itself and can't catch up.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
But all you take it in your own self. And
you know, I could never understand why the dog chaser
to tell God that don't worry about that. And you,
when you have a personal relationship with the most high,
he will hear you clearly all the time. You might
not like that response say he gives you. You might
not like the direction. And me, the bowelheaded woman I am,
(46:29):
I wouldn't well not anymore. I started a two and
a half heathens. I'm down to a half a heathen nine.
That's it. I broke that up at the one age,
So it might take a while to get to that part.
You know what, when when the when the world came
in my aunt used to tell me discovers all the
time for my little girl. She said, you're gonna be
an evangelist. I'm like, I don't even know what that means.
(46:50):
And she would tell me that all the time. You're
gonna be in it, and you're gonna be an evangelist.
So then I have to go look at an evangelist.
And it wasn't enough. It was in the Bible. And
if you the people that going to the community, I'm like, well, well,
why would you send me to go do that?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And you know I'm the queens have to comeback. I'm
the killing off of that. And I went, uh, but
what if I don't worry about that, Well, don't worry
about that. And every time I came over with one
he was he was laughing ainst me. I could see
him for this child, miss you are my child. You
would just be on your assignment and be obedient. People
(47:28):
say that all you gotta do is.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Mother, mother is keep stepping walking. And that's why that's
why I titled my books or Walk, because I've been
on that journey since I was a little hollered back
from Mississippi. This journey that I'm on started way back.
So that book was just kind of like my memoirs.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Okay, where's my autograph copy? I ain't know your book.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You just send me your info when I get Oh,
I ain't left the cover, but you can get that
on Amazon or as my personal clothing website, which is
motos dash sports dot com. No personally autographic or from
that website.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, but mother loves You got one coming. See, thank you, Pigy.
I so appressed it. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying. I mean,
you know, when you could look good with a stripe
with black and silver faith, you know, and you work
at it.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You gotta be okay with who you are, right uh?
And and okay with your skin. We talked about that
skin a lot, but that's the coach that God wanted
us to wear.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
You know what God made. You know what God made?
You know what God made us? You know what God
made us? Like this?
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You know why because He knew we could handle it. Yes,
and we can't handle this. And and I love the
fact that you're off always in the community. You know,
you're not somebody else. You know how they had a
bunch of bodyguards and everything. Now you've got to be
just you be protecting the bodyguards. I'm gonna be half.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That guy, you know, you got you gotta be about
the people when you when you walking in that life
on his life, you know, and that with that faith,
you know, I pretty much go wherever mother, because I
just pre and go. Even during the pandemic, people were
like scowling bag and doing this and that, you know,
(49:23):
And I took the regular precautions, you know, using common sense,
which by the way, they're not teaching that anymore.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And isn't that something I you know, I was wondering
about that, you know. And I knew who was in
trouble when they took the art and took gymnasium off
the curriculum, and they wanted to have come. So many
of our kids are not not just fat chevy kids.
These children are morbidly obese that a lot of them
might not make it to the twenty first birthday. And
they think, we know, that's no big deal. And I
(49:52):
understand people are stressed out. I'm a stress eater. I
eat when I'm happy, I eat what I'm sad. I
eat when I moved, I eat when I'm glad. So
and I ain't know that and I had to learn
how to be able to modify my lifestyle. You know something,
I would not keep all that weight on me because
they were talking about, you know, my love people and
your family don't last long, so you know, you might
(50:13):
want to think about getting some of that weight off
of you. And he said I was morbidly obese. I
was like, no, I mean I'm fluffy. You know, I'm exoptic.
You know, I'm squeezy, like you want me dead with
your exhausted teeth. Whatever he said to me. And there
was a wake up call and I woke up. I
was at a red carpety ben and I just felt
(50:34):
I saw myself outside of my body and I was like,
I can't be sick like this. I know something is wrong.
I'm like, I gotta get a jump start on this,
and I haven't look back, you know, And it's so important,
you know when you know, and we can't help everybody.
I mean, I've got so much push back from family
(50:55):
and friends. You know, we all have type two diabetes,
or they have heart disease and they got LOOPID, or
they got some other kind of chronic condition co OPD.
I have them about tangement eating handles. And the first
thing Black people say is well, I don't want I
don't want to eat no diabetic food. I'm trying to
figure out what what what's that means? That means mayametic food.
(51:18):
This is food food. It's food, you know, and the
money and we don't want to eat the right things,
you know, and I ain't know. People are eating because
of stress and you know everything that's going on, and
what's gonna stop us? What's gonna help us? When you
see what you have done and what you continue to do?
What keeps you motivated? What means you say, what you
(51:40):
got to get up and do your thing?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
It's the motivation is just the fact that I get
to wake up every day, don't have to punch a cloth,
doing what I actually love to do, and then seeing
the rewards and and like I said, just the goodness
that comes from it, that warm feeling as we call it.
And you get that warm feeling, you want to embrace
(52:05):
that as much as possible. So you know, thirty three
years of me striping or paint ump as I call it.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Oh, I love that painting up. I do that the
same thing with my makeup, but I only put it
on my eyes magnificance. I wanted to add that you.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Guys call it makeup, I call it war paint.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Oh it's been war paint. It's been more pain. And
I was the first one and the first girl in
the family to start wearing makeup. And then you're like,
what's you and there doing. I'm like, I'm putting them
a war paint, you know, because I could go in
and you know, make my face look any kind of way,
and I don't mind having my face desiorated. But he
told me, no, you're not going out with a stripping face.
(52:44):
Let him do what he does, and know you're not
striping up your face. I don't have a problem with
it because I know what's up under here. Crazy, it's
up under here, Okay, I can't believe. Just just's talk
about when you're not in the violator mode? And are
you ever in the violator.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I'm like I said, and.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That's really good. What would you say to some of
these other young men who might want to get into
a field like that, get into the a field of
especially mental health among teenagers and the young people. I mean,
I never would have thought I would have heard an
eight year old girl has to go to therapy because
she's been shamed on the internet.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
And.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
So that's why you have to. You know, we're losing
too many people to unnecessary depths, and you know, on
these drugs and stuff. And you know, I'm I'm glad
about I only come out here with no drug issues.
I did all my drug issues before I came out here.
And so if they want to get me drugs general alcohol,
I carry a big pocket book and put it in.
(53:53):
But I got I'm telling you way too much what
I do. Take ten forward with me, though I got
no shame in that. So when when did you decide
that this was gonna be with you? Because you said
know this for I'm out here, and I'm saying thirty
five years shut out, can't believe.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, I've been listening to you that long. But thirty
three years this year, I've been doing this, and it's
become my therapy because now that you can see what
I feel like, let's talk. Once we gets all of that,
let's talk or let's embrace, or let's share these moments.
You know, when I'm taking pictures with fans, always tell
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them now that make this a memory now, so they
they pay a little bit more attentions before you're making
a memory. You can look back on it ten years,
fifty years, or your grandkids can look at it. But
we shared this moment in time because that's all we got.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
That's all we got, and couldn't look morning about yesterday.
Been there done, Dad got the funky T shirt. Let's
have to get today. I tell you this is why
today has called the present. It is just as president
of past, of time of emotion. And I like to
wake up my box with my box sitting on the bed,
so I'll do a pull in the ribbon. And sometimes
I just wrap a box up just so I could
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tear it off me.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Oh it's it's it's amazing and and it's hardy nowadays
even again. Adult return to church and we turned to
the temples. We turned to a sense of needing and
longing to have a presence with a higher power than yourself.
And we don't do it up. We cannot. People get
on my number and say I'm a self made woman,
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when when is wait a minute, I meant something in
the osmosis with the ax firm in the edge, it's over.
What do you mean I'm myself made. You ain't a
self made anything. I don't care how much money you make.
And let me course you go on side west his
soul he stopped. I mean, did he put down some footprints.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
All the even prints my journey. I call it the walk.
It's it's a it's a it's a blueprint to where
my legacy will lie once I'm saying and death.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
I don't think it's gonna ever be said and done.
And I don't know why you keep telling yourself that.
I heard this the other day, and I never really
thought about it like that. They said their two deaths.
Your physical body dies and your souliers re leads to
the universe, and that and you got a second time
when nobody remembers your story all about it? Well, I said,
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now that is really really profound.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
You know that that brings by Dennis the minutes of
when you see it. I'm just my my whole journey
from getting from Mississippi, Kelly, was that once I'm done,
you know, because we all, you know, all do all
of that that one day we won't be here. But
it's leaving stories behind, and you have to do something
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worth talking about stories to be told. So I keep
all of that in mind. If I go out in
the world on a daily basis, I don't care if
it's a complete stranger. I greet him with love. My
mom said, kill it. Even share your inemies withhod you.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Have merchant Jesus, somebody come hold my mute because I've
got to get him run about his death. People don't
understand that. I remember the first time I saw somebody
getting happy. Remember in the Baptist church that would get happy,
you know, and they get to scream in the fall
and all out, and I'm like, Okay, what's going on
with that? Why her dress up like that? Why she
pull her hair off? I don't know. It scared me
to scare me to death, and they woulday, that's the
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spirit of the Lord. And I'm like, okay, I don't know.
If I don't want get involved in that. That looks
like a work. But when I got there and I
was able to stay there, and what am I gonna?
You know? What am I looking for in a pastor
in a church? And people got to remember that your
past and the first one and everybody in that conversation
are all humans. Now, all of us fall short of
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the glory so I'm been in there and thinking, but oh,
he can't do that, he can't do this. I know.
We went to Vegas. I go shopping. I don't gamble,
so we can go to Vegas. And I see one
of our church ladies there and she just will, oh,
please don't tell it, Please gonna talk? No, you talking
me about it? He why would I have to even
have a conversation? What state you think I'm want? But
(58:19):
that's that's that guilt. See, I'm not gonna do the
whole guilt thing. It takes too much work to hate
and to keep that trace sustainable. It's just not it
doesn't work. So what made you decide to write the
book The Walk?
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well, like I said, when doing that, it's kind of
telling my story or getting the world to know means.
And you can be different, but different doesn't mean you
don't have purpose. We all are broad here for that.
We have a purpose. When you find a mother in love,
it's like going down there to the falls. It's like
you don't even worry about the bottle. I mean, you
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were right.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
We do not worry about the right. And you know,
and even even if you fall off the cliff, you
know because I'm fell off the cliff. I've been pushed
off the edge of the clip because I was They
thought I was looking too far ahead. And you know,
we got to get control of her because she could
be a problem. And said, you don't even know who
our serve. You don't even know. And and God said, listen,
he told us this. I got you. He told you
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he had you. He had you that you could go
to mountains. That's why, that's why we make a lot
of crazy and have a great time. Tell people how
they can get in touch with you.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Oh you get a hold of me on on EDGs
at Barley to fifty seven Facebook, Wayne Maybury fifty seven
on Instagram at Maybury Wayne. They're very simple, old you.
You're in the right place.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Thank you, sir. It's always a pleasure to chat with
you know. I love you guys. The pieces and next
time we talk we go. You had to tell me
what what what the raider.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
We will get into that. Oh I want I wanted
to tell this alright, Oh Ford, God, bless you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Mother, Thank you, Thank I love you too, baby, Thank
you so much for joining us. Alright, babies, we got
to doing the s
Three two, A cyber baby. It's the even more savvyest
abouted mother Love coming to you talking about live and
living color. I'm all decorated and looking all cute, because
I have a decorator looking all fine. This gad has
you got about a fan, especially a fan of football.
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You guys know that I love football, and this guy
has taken he's one of his missions and turned it
into just something absolutely wonderful. And I love him. I
love him, I dude. His name is Wayne Marbery. You
will recognize him as the violator at the Waiters game.
Oh my goodness, welcome to the program. It's good to
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see us always.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you, Mother Love. First of all, I'm honored to
be side by side with you talking smack.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh see what see? Well, we talked a real smack though.
We talked to smack that you can't make up. We
talked to smack that you had that you looked through.
And you know what difference between what is and what
I ain't?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Why didn't like you're talking.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So and having? And people always thought I was the
only girl and a brother and a brew full of brothers.
There was four girls and two two guys. Four girls
and two boys, and our mother was a football fanatic.
I didn't even know she could get crazy like that.
We're from Cleveland, Ohio. She has a die rided die.
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I don't care what you say. We could be losing,
we could be knowledge. I'm gonna stick with the Browns.
Tell me about you ain't. And when did you realize
that started loving football?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think I was probably four or five. You know,
I wasn't even in grade school yet, but I used
to sit up and watch the game and it just
caught my attentions because to me, football was like the
Gladiators and the arena. Already. You can tell I'm into
Night's swords stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Her. I know her armors and and that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so it just immediately called my attention. You got
eleven guys on east side running beating him out of
each other to the ball, and that was like the
in Lord of the Ring. That was the precious the football.
So I immediately looked at it as man old man
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combat and it just I was so thrilled about it.
My mom used toy. I used to just sit there
and she would be calling me. She could not get
my attention while the game was on. So I consider
myself kind of a student of the games. But anyway,
fast forward until I'm twelve years old and I'm watching
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the Raiders play the Kansas City Chief. Now my color
or my favorite color is black. He got I've had
a silver and black and they zoomed that on a
helmet and I saw a shield with two crossed swords
and a one out of time mother love. I feel
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in love. My heart was smitten, as they used to
stay back in the day. I was spitting at twelve
years old. So my quest begins, where is the team from?
Because I had no ideas, but I'm gonna go wherever
they are to live out my life. I wasn't really
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happy with where I was, and I knew there was
something better from me. So that began that passion, even
at twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's what I'm you know, tipping about because you know
and when you know it's something that you are supposed
to do or something that you want to do. Now,
was it something that you had to do? Was it
something that you wanted to do? And did it a
call to you to say come in here with me
something like you said something struck in a fig that
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's where that's where it hit me, but blave in
my spirits. I never spoke about it to anybody, but
it was just like, wherever that shield is, that's where
I want to go live. So in my I put
that in my mind before high school, wherever they are,
and I restarted researching. You know, it was no Internet
like we're talking now. I had to go to the
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library and uh, you know, growing up in Mississippi's it
was not a whole lot of information about California. So
I would go through encyclopedias and I ran a fun
Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So history class began to be my most favorite class
because every time California came up, I was all is.
I was locked in, as I say, so you know,
I would I would listen to those classes and just
dreams and I'm gonna get to that later. I would
sit there and dream of myself being there, not knowing
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what the hell the terrain was, like weather or nothing,
but I envisioned myself there or Terraider's games, and like
I said, I just walked out this dreams, like he said,
all the way through high school, my two years at
Jackson State, where I met, you know, Walter Payton, Jackie Schlater,
Robert Brazil.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna even date myself. I'm not
gonna even date myself to say that I know exactly
who you're talking about. These these are legends that you
are talking about. And they were.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
They were like Jimmy God walking across campus. But on
Friday night and Saturday, when they strapped up, they became warriors.
And I admired him for that and I took on
that persona, so to speak. There was a switch that
they hit when they crossed the white lines and then
they became gladiated to me. So, you know, after a
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couple of years of observing them, and some of them
got drafted. Most of them this they got drafted. I
color got depressed, and I'm saying I'm done with college,
even though my news that was gonna break my mom's heart,
but I had to follow my heart at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
What did you go to college for? I was an
art major, okay, telling me surprised, Yeah, telling our surprised. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I am an audience by by the gifts of God.
So that's what mom wanted me to go and make
my living doing so now today I can say to her,
which I did before she passed, that every day that
you see this, I'm using my art as it's seen
around the.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
World, and it's it's it's just so unique. Now, did
you come up with the idea of the strikes on
your face? Or did other people? Did they have input
into how you became a violator? And I want after that,
I want to know, and I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna tell, So go ahead and tell the story, and
I'm gonna tell man, like, after.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, let's do this, we're gonna play some handball. So anyway,
what you see is a spirit that was inside of
me as a youngster. Like I said, the Knights were
like who I wanted to be. The Superheroes were what
I thought I could be. You know, they were the
good guys, but they were strong, you know, and they
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had a purpose with what they did. So this, this
image that you see in front of you is just
my persona that's inside. Every day when I pay him
up and dressed him up, you get to see him
live how I feel all the time. So it's just
a tendered spirit that all of us have. But now
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I've got an outlet to let this guy breathe and touch.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Other people, and you do, and specially what had actually
around with the kid, And now thin didn't really only
one of you? Or is it like eleven team violators?
Because I see you at every right or game, there's
only one I now see. That's that's when you know
you a bad mom, a bad motor scooter because and
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he brings such life and such energy and what I
wanted to let people know that, yeah, this is a
rough shot put persona and he's playing a violetter like
a gladiator, and you he are you are also a
gladiator at heart, because I've watched you with children. I
watched you be around, especially the young guys, you know,
who really don't know where to go, what to do,
(08:28):
and they I watch it, you know, come up left
to you and money Ki. He could have been no
more than twelve or thirteen. I don't even remember what
game it was, but I saw you embrace this kid
like in the awkward stage. You know, they you know,
they don't know what's going on and hormones going wild
and my lives and my my and you just put
your arm around his kids, and I could see his
body's language change, just like you putting your arm around
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his shoulders.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Just like conversation is a way to plant seem touching somebody,
you exchange energy. So when I do that, they feel loved,
not they don't feel intimidated or anything. And you can
sell them relaxed. But once you get them that clothes
mother love, that's when I'm finna get some on them.
Because all I am is a mentor sharing my wisdom
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through my travels, and everybody is different, so hopefully something
that I say will kill a spark in them and
just have them to raise their different things. Because we
are the sons and daughters of the kings, so nobody
really can touch us once we realize our purpose and
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the whole journey is about, and.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
We don't we gonna let them know when you aim
for the King or clean better not mess. You came
in and see when did you understand and at what
age were were you going through that you could you
could even be able to talk about God and share
your skills to journey because you know a lot of
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people don't want to hear what we have to say
about that. And you you I mean, and you do
look intimidating. I mean, I know you're not intimidating, and
that's one of the beauty things, beautiful things about you.
You might look intimidating, and then when they see pass
the strength and they hear your heart and they hear
your voice because you got to flesh it, I'll be
I'll be paying at pattire now. And just something simple
(10:24):
like putting your armor around a young kids. I don't
even know if you said anything to them, because you know,
your back's kind of like tim and I don't even
know if you said anything. I just saw this kid
go for my sins. You put your own wanted and
they went like this, And that was what I saw.
And to have that, When did you know that you
had to incorporate your faith walk with what you do.
(10:45):
But being up you know the die hard radar nation
do what die? Your giant drop, a water kill, a
rock fall, radar nations per When did you when did
you know? When did you realize I have to do this?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, I'm I'm gonna go back in town a little
bit and then fast forward.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, I grew.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was brought up in the Bath Southern Baptist Church,
so you know Sunday was not only football days, but
church day. So I was the type of kid that
used to walk out in the clovers to get my
footstong by bees, so it would swell up and I
couldn't get my shoes on. That was gonna be a Sunday.
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I'm gonna get all the football in.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Wait a minute, you gotta playing. I'm Gonawaiian.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Let m be swell up and back walk back.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
When they find out that you were up to, just
kind of sell bugly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Look that was That was the Dennis and minings. I
called that was the Dennis the mining.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But you know it was.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And my teachers used to say, you have a very
vivid imagination, and I took that as a copper do.
So you know, I tried this trick a few times
and it worked first couple of times, and Mom caught
onto it. Every first Sunday, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Be there all day, all day.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So every first Sunday I would go to Staday before
and get them walk out there, get my feet hung
up so I couldn't get her those wing tips that
she used to have us wear.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Black toes are like that, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
With the little with a little stamp on the tour.
Everybody in those wing tips. Now that's the fashion. Back
then we call them broke in. Couldn't tell them up.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And they would get me and they were they were
all so handy, you know the man. You know, you
would conquer like a fankistan walk.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, like one like class there years coming and
you know back then we wore taps on them to say,
and then don't be able to dance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's the kind of stuff that you know when they
talk about going back and you know Renaissance and you know,
having the memories and what have you. I mean, I
had great memories of growing up, and you know that's
what I don't see in our kids because it's so
dangerous out there today. When you've got to pray for
your child to go outside to go to school in
Nord Jesus let him be back home and say that
all the children come back home and say, and you
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can't seem to grow in the grocery store, in the
church or you know, any place with that, and have
to be cognitive of what if somebody comes in here
and start shooting up the place that's taking them. So
much about energy and so much creativity or awaiting from
the world where you've got to focus on this crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Good and and being in church all the time. There
was a book called Revelations got the Bible said now
we are living and times right now. But as a kid,
(14:02):
I remember all that talk and it was like, oh yeah,
you old folks think you're gonna scare me with that
fire brim saw. I ain't buying into it. But going
back to your previous Querson when it hit me that
the spirit was there and he had been walking side
by side with me. Now I was about to retire
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from working as construction worker and I was disabled, and
I didn't really know yet, but I kept hearing a
void say go and get yourself checked out. And I
ended up getting an MI because you know the HMOs
out here in California especially, you know, I had to
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go through the gauntlets, you know, go to see the
chiropractice and they would crack you. And then two days later,
I'm back in the same position of pain. So I'm
thinking that ain't working.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So they went to uh TT which because that that
didn't work, that caused.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Me more pain. So once I went to that and
I go back to my what they called your primary physician,
and he's looking at all these results and what happened
three sessions and I just hit him up and I said, look, god,
you know what's the next step. I mean, I was
calling it a cat skin, but it was really an MRI,
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which what I needed. So he put me in for that.
He said that's the last thing we would offer because
of the car. So that started to change the way
I looked at the whole medical field. But we'll get
to that in another talk. So anyway, I got the
MRI done and come to find out I had something
(15:46):
called Oh I would butcher up the name, so I'll
just say I have degenerative discs. After thirty five years
of you know, heavy labor, plus lifting weights and playing
sports and all that stuff, I had just grounded everything
down to almost where it's touches. So the surgeon, when
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he got the result, he called me in and he's
looking at it. So I'm looking at the skeletal structure
in but he says, you notice their space between everything, right,
He said, that's called going out. Now I've heard that
turn going out, so I'm looking at him. He says
that means I can't fix that. So he says, go
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tomorrow and retire from your union because you've got the
time in. So that was a that was a that
was an instant of fear. That flush threw me like retire.
I don't have enough money to retire, and so I
go home, you know, and discuss it with my wife.
But his voice is with me saying.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'm thinking, okay, I'll get back to that. That was
the man of says, just talking to me the whole time.
I got you. Do what you gotta do and keep moving.
So I go in, put in my paperwork, got everything going.
My retirement pension started to come. But when it came
around to getting the full disability, that's when when Satan
(17:20):
reared his head and uh, you know, I got my
day in court. You go before you know, a judge
in your district, and he denied me. Hey, he's looking
at my medical records. Now I know I'm getting all
off track.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No no, no, no, I'm just trying of I'm I'm keeping
up with you because now you go through all these
the scenes to come back full of something.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Trust. So he denied me, and you know, I had
this this tranting company from out of Boston of all plays, Alston,
Massachusetts that was doing this, representing me pro bonall this.
I turned me down. Well anyway, when I walked into
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the courtroom, he says he made this statement, and that
was the downfall, you know for somebody's fifty nine. You
look pretty husky to me, and immediately coming from the south,
I knew that was a that was a jam. So
my eyes were like blood red. But I knew I
couldn't explode to say nothing. But I'm looking at this
(18:24):
guy and if I could get to you, you know
what would happen. So I'm sitting there and I'm pretty
ticked off. So he goes through the hole to nine
and there's a boldcational specialist there with me from my trade,
and that showing him a grasp. I started in seventy eight.
I peaked at whatever year it was, and I started
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to slide down, which is a normal, you know, So
in our flat lining, that means he's done, especially with
the condition that I he denied it in spite of
all that. So shows you how I go home and
I'm really upset now because that's half of my income
that I'm living on today. That's over.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You are deserved for a conversation for the work that
you put in, and you already and sometimes you know
people that are in a position of power. I don't
care how many scule it is or how many people,
and they seem to get our joy out of watching
us suffer and seeing how we're gonna come out of this.
And then when you do, they always got they put
on your neck, always got they put on your neck.
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And then you know, we got a scared of that,
just like this make they come in, but we know
how to come out the buildings standing straight up, standing tall.
And that's why the power comes in because they want
to scare you. Oh no, why should you get one disability?
You know, and you've got somebody there that's helping you
and telling this story, and you know what it was.
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You know, they still color struck. That's I got an
iron back. That was an iron back exactly. Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I knew exactly what it was. My spirit felt it.
I didn't even have to hear it, but hear it.
That went straight through my spirit, and it just I
knew what I was dealing with. I'm sitting there being
as quiet as possible. My attorney never said a word.
So when I go back, my love, but it almost
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takes me three years to get back around to another
cordate and I go before the same guy because he's
gonna make sure I'm gonna cut this guy's legs from
on him second time. But this attorney firm, and I'm
going to put their name out there because I love
him that Muchanella and Mama love and the name makes
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me land still. But those guys do not play.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
It sounds like as it yes, like banana. Yeah's too good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
His opening statement, the phenography, I guess typed it down
because when she did it, she peeped around the wall
the petition to look at me. And as soon as
I saw her face, I'm like, oh she heard it too,
That's all I said to said, Oh, she's like, who
is he throwing to like that? So this is all
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on the tape, the man and so the court session,
you know, when it goes back to Boston and against
the big guys in the firm year they put him
on their target. Whenever court date, we're gonna send the
closer back, which is a different attorney.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The other one was considered a noodle anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But so I'm saying, Oh, so God had a hand
in this. So they're sending the closer out, and they
that a form for me to still out. I'm giving
you a lot of information.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yes, it's in our program. We can do what he want.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going because this
was to show him and I'm putting it in the
spiritual take don't mess with a child of the king.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And now when you knows, I understand what that means.
He knows there not even in the mindset in the
spirits said and then you got to what they say
when you go anybody to put on the whole armor
of God, put.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Your armor on. That's what I'm saying. So that is
your cloak of arm when you believe and have faith.
But so I'm sitting there and this closer came. He
pulled me to the way they call a five balls
and he talked to me for about ten minutes. Paid,
you're getting ready to get paid today with back page
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and what he says. When they we went back and
we played the minute, and the big bosses heard that
he was put on a target on their calendar that
whenever he says, I was already selected to go and
close the deal. And he said, if you had been
a little white lady that there were, you would have
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gotten paid the first time. So this is when I
learned how the court system actually works when people of
us are Hugh walks in there and he says, just
sit back. You know, he had his little American flag
on his affair. He's kicking back, little aging guy. I'm listen.
(23:31):
If i'll see him today, I've given a huge hug.
He just says, sit back and relaxes. You probably won't
have to say nothing, but yes, you go. That was
all mother love. That's all I said, that whole procession.
So he brought a different vocational specialist back to get
a different graphic than they.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He saw before.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's trying all the loops down so so as you
when God opened the door and no man can close it.
So I'm sitting there just like I'm sitting down watching him.
He's just keep down on him. So I'm watching him.
If he goes through the pages and he just he
had this blob, but they blas him and this dude
(24:14):
the next time when he got to that second to
the last page, I saw a lump in his throat,
and he started to turn a little bit bright, if.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know what I mean, and I'm thinking, oh.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Something's happened. So he had to read all this stuff
out out aloud and it said that you know, I
had fired my name on it. So he looks at
me first, like what twenty two attorneys in that office
and they all got whatever percentage that the office was
(24:48):
supposed to get. Yet that same amount plus I got
retro paved for the year and a half that I
had to wait to go back to see it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Pout is good all the time. And you know when
you do something like that, they go, Okay, who was
he talking to? How did he know that you should
be doing this?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I know you did? Oh see all lit And then
when we go have to go to court, and that
that's one of the reasons if I ever have to
go to court again, because you know there's listen, people
want to sue you. You know, they think you drinking
chewing green vaper and drinking eight and runny in the bathroom,
rolling one hundred dollars bit And it don't work like that.
And when you speak tooth to power and you know
(25:30):
you got people on your side, you could exist. You
just say that to yourself. Well it's gone. Like the
door opens. No man, no company, no entity can ever
close them. And sometimes you see it metaphorically in your life,
and sometimes it's like the actual the door actually does
not Nobody could close the door. I mean you literally
(25:51):
could not pick up move the door because it's so big.
And that's what we do, that's what we Maybe I'm
just a supernaturalist because I believe that if you if you,
if you really hit God and God really hears you
got a personal relationship. You ain't got to go begging
God or nothing. You ain't got all little please let
me get his good husband, and you take any piece
of God coming off the street with no moral values.
(26:13):
You know, got four or five baby mamas and all
this kind of other kind of crazy carrying on, and
so to see and you know it's crazy. Soo see
what we married because you are manage being single in
this environment. Most of them couldn't even come wouldn't even
come close. Not to say that they're that. You know,
(26:34):
my husband and your wife are better than anybody else.
But there's the people up is that they like us anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And when you have that right, one and I'm gonna
put that out there. When you got that right one,
you become complete. There's a balance right there, you know,
regardless of each other's extreme, when they come together, you
at ying and yang come, that means something. So I
learned that over time.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I see and I'm gonna do Mike. I'm gonna do
myke ying and yang because I'm coming to the chair.
I come to the table with him whole he because
I can't pick under that. I listened. I am a wonderful,
awesome mother. I could have done on the page of
the Money bar O, the Mommy book, raising our son.
I couldn't teach the cat how to be a man,
how to be a black man in this racist country.
(27:21):
You know, you gotta sit down and tell your twelve
year old son you have to get pulled.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's twelve.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
What the heck when he needs to be pulling the
police over? And I remember once that him and his
friends they gotta do some trouble. Right. It was in
this store. There was stupid stuff to teenage boys do. Okay,
when they started the police telling me, everybody ran except
his and he was like, man, I'm on, he said,
why am I? Why? I haven't done anything. Okay. Then
(27:46):
when the police got him and talked to them all
they sent them, told the boys, but we're gonna want
till your parents get down here, come take you up,
and you gotta explain this. Our son said with sitting
He said, he was sitting his chair. He's out the
stake to just go, not because he would sweating so bad.
Because police officers said, oh no, I'm taking you home,
(28:07):
and he consider, please, please, can't you just lock me up?
He just took me in jail. I think you know
you don't understand my parents are training or they playing. Yes,
do they may tell my mither lady.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Don't tell my father.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh my, I mean he looked. They say a tall guy,
and I could see he was, and we would we didn't,
you know, doing that parental look. He aid, it's as
bad as a bubble gun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And sometimes all it is is just just just a look,
like you said. But that's how we were raised to
have respect, first of all for each other and definitely
the eldest. Anybody in used to call my my neighborhood
the village. You know, they said it took a village
to raise all of them. Could beat your butt if
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you got out of line, and then that was a
second one once that word got home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sebringing see that was kind of crazy though, I mean,
let's just keep it real. That was kind of crazy.
You You just got into some trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You got caught.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes, you need to be way commented for it. And
then she said, God didn't give me a switch. Yes,
matter in fact, big three, I'm t I braid him
and they stood in praying it I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Free and they better not break.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Bring me them know what was I wanted? And you
got to go outside and it better not take you
more than five minutes. So I learned how to count
five minutes sixty five times and I was like, okay,
she gotta be the calm down by now. Walking to
the door, she said, oh no, get him to me,
and said when she called me a helper, I knew
I was in big trouble. Help her get over here,
and then be how your mother and grandmother could do
(29:51):
this thing. You could be way across the room y'all
in church.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Mm hmm. Burn that head and Lord it is I
ain't good.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And now now if you strike your challenge and this
was in them, they'll take you to tell they'll take
you to court. I can tell them all, I said,
you take just be beat of me like this. This
is when they first start having a child abuse center
calls and what have you. I said, I'm from the
Betty pictures, but whatever the name of always because you
be hitting me like this. He said, wait, hold on.
(30:22):
She put on the phone. She said, hold on now,
this is this is who you want to talk to.
I said, well, yeah, ma oh, thed you retreating me face,
You're like, there do you say, went up in this?
When the last time you want a mad brother, don't
make me go down the list. You an't gotta give one.
And they just just like cut to them. And these
kids hard as it kep. A lot of our young
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people really need to have some strong guiding and direction,
not beating them down, not always bringing up them safe
in their faces. Understand what off the time. It's not
a what, it's a why. And the kids don't these
kids don't know how to hope. I mean when I
grew up, there was no I mean, I didn't even
know what the word divorced. Man. It always sounded like,
(31:05):
you know, like one of them nasty words, like you
know I'm like, nobody in our family in the neighborhood,
all the families were attacked of dads that of them
went to work and you know, came home and you know,
they did the family thing. We grew up with a
large neighborhood. We had three families that have fourteen kids
in each family, and that was like in an arms region.
(31:26):
I'm like, so, don't mess with us, because you know,
we kind of great people in the project. We kind
of people each other and we're gonna take care of
each other.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And they don't understand about camaraderie and the importance of
siblings and sometimes sibling liboys, you know, because now you
got brothers and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I know about the rivalry. Yeah that was some
notck down moving furniture, but we straighten it up.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Before got home. Okay, listen.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And then I was I don't know, how did they
always no, they're alway, He's no, it is and.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That is that is important to have a personal relationship
with God, whoever you conceive God to be, whoever is
where you're comfortable, where you feel safe. You know, the
God I serve he is supernac gonna do.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
This, you know, he can.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I mean, how many people can say I was born
in the Major and I'm gonna be the king of
the world. I mean, come on now, and he's having
me be the king of the world.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
How many people do we know that?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And he was a people, He's still a people. You
know that says, Okay, you don't get to do this,
but you get to do that. You know, you don't whatever,
because we always we are always fighting against principalities, and
evil is evil, and Satan is real. Remember Satan believe
in God. Because if they were talking about but that story,
(32:53):
I'm telling if they made all of this up, which
I don't believe they could because men and women are
stupid trying to keep secrets. He said, I am going
to take this down and I am going to build
a kingdom. I will be resurrected and be here with
you in the next life.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
They put him in a tune. They put it down,
rock in front of it. Okay, they walked away. Man
in their own business, come back, I'm gonna say, away
Jimmy and the rock downs.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Then he walking down the street meeting people, all my ters.
When Simon heard it. He could have crapped up. Shut up.
He can't say that about the lim But you know
what I'm talking about. And the fact that we have
instructions in the Bible, and I understand ibody was written
by man. That's why he got the King James version
and I want the Mother Love version. I'm taking all lot,
(33:44):
all them parts out. You know, I'm the only happen
mine to come up with like maybe eighteen books, because
we got fifty six. See minould be a short read.
I know this, Lord, shut up and to see the
King before your eyes. Tell us about some of it
(34:05):
because you do work a lot of work a kids.
Tell us about the uh some of their success does
with the kids and in your walks out and as
he do.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know there there Mother Love. Yeah, I'm glad you
brought that up because that was another time that the
spirit was always speaking to me. You know, I got
involved with these kids through Smiley and Jenny. I'm getting
them a shout out. You already know they are. I
know what. But to the world, that's the raid of
(34:36):
Nation for life car club and uh, this this couple,
I knew him before they were a coupled, but I
met Salaf through Smiley and I called Salif my raid
of poet, and that's what I just we all have purpose.
And as soon as I met him, there was some
kind of energy. I'm like, this guy's a poet, but
(34:58):
he could take that anyway. And you wanted to go
and spread that message like I'm trying to do through
what I do putting the hands on stop.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't want to hear I'm trying. You are doing
the dog gone thing. You know you are doing it.
I'm not gonna allow you to even think of what
you're doing. When you said this earlier and I just
had to hold it back. It was something that you said,
air comes to me white, I'm gonna be in the
beastaple I like, just mayby, just go back to sleep.
(35:33):
I dream in color, and when you see in color.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You do like I'm drawing a picture. So I try
to explain myself. And you see I'm talking with my hands,
so I'm creating a picture that I'm speaking to you.
So getting back to that planting the seeds and all that.
You know, what I'm doing is just showing what I
saw my mom do and just care for other people.
(36:00):
So when I when Smiley took me to this first
event and I met these kids. You know, I remember
feeling myself kind of trying to push back. I didn't
want to feel what I was feeling.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, what were you feeling? What were you dealing?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was that, just that feeling of love. But it
scared me. I'm like, am I getting missed just from
being around these kids? And it was that? Was that?
So as you embraced that? And I told her mad
I told him, I said, you treat me into this.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
He said, yeah, I had to do what I had
to do what I had to do, but that's the way.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And that's how I running jokes. You treat me into
this because I went to a car show thinking I'm
gonna look at cars, but I met the kids and
if the mother love had changed the trajectory of my journey.
You know how people said I just pivoted. That made
me pivot because what I thought I really didn't have
(37:01):
time for is what I got the most pleasure out
of putting time into.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
So ain't not play how I work? You know this
decide ain't not play how it was.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's funny for people that don't know when you know,
just get close enough and that means a lot. Man,
those kids, I call them my hero. And I've watched
some of them, the ones that survived the whole disease
that they were fighting. The ones that survived they're now adult.
Before I just saw them like two or three weeks ago,
(37:34):
to the barbecue that these guys through every year for
the kids, you know, before we take them to a game.
Now this year they didn't go, but we had done
it like three or four five years previously when the
team was in opening. That was like a road trip
for the kids and their family and just to see
(37:54):
the looks on their faces. And they've been through some
traumatic stuff that you know, we complain about, Oh there's
a Mastille in here. These kids are are sometimes strapped
down or having surgerys and this and that everything you
could think of, and all they want to do is
feel love and be played like a kid. So when
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I got closer to them and started meeting the families,
just being there, you know, gave strength to those families
because you can't imagine what stress they were under just
knowing that their kid is deal and this illness may
take them out. And we're talking young kids, you know,
(38:39):
and It just showed me that there's a purpose that
I walked right into. Like I say, it's all I
gotta saying all in God's time. I walked right into it.
But by me not running, it's strengthened me. You know.
It's when you put this on. Now it's a whole
different meeting than it was when I first started back
(39:00):
in ninety one. It was just to go in.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
God, tell her to shame the devil. I'm going out
hit the rent tail, see yes. And I have to
say society. I have to say, society treats men better
than they do with it when it comes to I'm
just I no, no, no, no, You're not going out
here to do nothing on on the beacon hap and
running them up. You have to be on a short leaf.
(39:25):
And I was like, I'm not a dog wanted to
be on the leaves. I don't understand that. And I would,
I would think it, but I wouldn't say it because
and you can't even think. My mother, you couldn't even
think it, you could. I'm she used to tell us,
and this wait, before Yoda came out, she had some
Jedi mind tricks on us that weren't even funny. And
(39:46):
then you said, why doesn't she just give me a whooping?
I would, I would, Oh my god, it would be
She was like methodical. So she understand here and she's
gonna learn this lesson, and I'm I'm the best student,
I mean on the arm, the roll. And then that's
the un society, you know, all the something's supposed to
do academically, okay, but everybody wanted me to be at
(40:07):
that party because I was like a party girl. And
so that's gotta be in a lot of trouble, you know,
because well, you and the body you let me right thirty.
I'm like, mana, we don't start picking up with by
eleven thirty. I'm gonna be here eleven thirty. I mon flock,
why you're gonna hear a cross stop? She knew, she knew,
and I I just had to learn to say, okay,
(40:28):
you got to Jedi minded. And a lot of our
mothers have that. You know, they'll they'll they'll call you
up and say, uh, how you feel. I'm like, oh,
I'm okay. You don't sound okay, you don't feel like
I'm she she put in some old JETI stuff on it,
and they know don't tell. So when you first put
on when you first put on the face, now, is
(40:49):
this your design on your face?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes, Now that's back to the question. Yes, this is
my this is my war design to war my mind.
But those stripes represent the officials on the field.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Okay, so really I want to tear a hole in
them too. Okay, that was I mother. I don't want
to tear a hole in that. Okay, that just sounds back.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
That just sound painful.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You've been at one hundred.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
But that's all.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Everything represents something, the fight. That's the pain that you're
gonna feel when I get to you.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
He got a plan.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
He has a plan, people, mother love.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I learned that from my father, who is like a
career military guy paratroopers, So you know, it was a
little squirreling, you know. And he would say, if.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You stay ready, they got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
So that's that's kind of like how I rose.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I think I think it was all the time. And
do you still hear them? Do you still hear your mother? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Every day?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Look, they both would say when you start hearing the tape,
the seed is wet. She was praying seas when I'm
saying I ain't.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's that's too busy. I don't take up too much time.
I'm all about, you know, instant gratification. And I say this,
you know you you better instantly guided by yourself out
there doing go to work. I've been working since I
was fourteen years old, and so you know, and in
my era, you know, we we were in that in
that gap between you know, the forties and the fifties,
mom and dad, you know, doing all this stuff and
(42:26):
you know, looking all the nice going to the trash can,
and you know all of this, And now I gotta talk.
We got caught in the list. Women, you can do
whatever you want. Go to college, get a good education.
You don't have to go out here and want to
be you know, get married or have killed. What did
you say, woman, I can't have a choice. Oh no,
but I heard that word.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's what this is.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
This, this election is so crazy. Women and men were
just gonna all have to pull together to keep our
democracy a lot. And when you think about that, you know,
we have to be democratic in most of our relationships.
You know you're gonna get I even lose something. But
don't just figure it out that you need to take
the whole time. That's what we're gonna have to keep them,
keep them in line, what keeps doing on it, what
(43:08):
keeps you focused.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
There's another party go around and then you mom says
you can give away some baby. So, like I said,
a lot of those characteristics I carry within me. Those
were the seeds she was planning. So my job or
my doing is to pass that on to somebody else.
Everybody I meet, that's my mission is to just trust
(43:31):
them with something that will enhance their life in a
good way and that they can pass on. So I
got the whole seed thing, and when you speak it
into the universe, you can't suck it back to give
it life.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And I know, I know it my assign I know,
and I didn't know. And when God was having that conversation,
you know, I oftentimes will try to talk God into well,
why you got today? You don't have to question Lord.
You ain't got to question his motive, You ain't got
to question his motorcyple arandi. You just need to be still,
be quiet, feel beating. And even in this day and age,
(44:13):
when we talk about you know, keeping along, having a
long Marriagian relationship and how long it is and how
do you get to that point? What's your magic potion?
There's no such thing as magic potion? Is the every
day is the every day while fight, you know, And
we got to fight together, you know, because when you
walk outside that door, people don't care about you being
(44:33):
a violator. How are we gonna take you downe? Can
we get a piece of that action? Can we just
talk about this suspective for for our young people, the
importance of being in the business. You are in the
business of bringing the violator out to all of these
games where the raiders are. And I don't know if
I said just told you my husband. You've met my
husband on many occasions. See gonna say, if it was
(44:56):
left up to him, you'd be on once for a week,
because you know he left, you know, to get black it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Look, I'm welcome to color. Like I said, it's an
honor just speaking with you today because the last time
we spoke, and if you can go back and lift
at the tape, you said something that kind of almost
threw me off the chairs when you said something about
God had a plan for me and I was gonna preach,
and I kind of pushed back, like, no, I don't
(45:29):
know about all that.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
You know that was at the at the l a top.
Wadill say so it was the.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Video, yeah, And I kind of pushed back, But inside
of me, I'm saying, she's speaking the truth.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
So what I'm doing now is doing my version of
I guess you could call it street ministry. But it's
not so much scripture wise. It's experience wise, knowledge wise,
faith driven, you know, because until is that you just
you're just like a dog chasing itself and can't catch up.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
But all you take it in your own self. And
you know, I could never understand why the dog chaser
to tell God that don't worry about that. And you,
when you have a personal relationship with the most high,
he will hear you clearly all the time. You might
not like that response say he gives you. You might
not like the direction. And me, the bowelheaded woman I am,
(46:29):
I wouldn't well not anymore. I started a two and
a half heathens. I'm down to a half a heathen nine.
That's it. I broke that up at the one age,
So it might take a while to get to that part.
You know what, when when the when the world came
in my aunt used to tell me discovers all the
time for my little girl. She said, you're gonna be
an evangelist. I'm like, I don't even know what that means.
(46:50):
And she would tell me that all the time. You're
gonna be in it, and you're gonna be an evangelist.
So then I have to go look at an evangelist.
And it wasn't enough. It was in the Bible. And
if you the people that going to the community, I'm like, well, well,
why would you send me to go do that?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
And you know I'm the queens have to comeback. I'm
the killing off of that. And I went, uh, but
what if I don't worry about that, Well, don't worry
about that. And every time I came over with one
he was he was laughing ainst me. I could see
him for this child, miss you are my child. You
would just be on your assignment and be obedient. People
(47:28):
say that all you gotta do is.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Mother, mother is keep stepping walking. And that's why that's
why I titled my books or Walk, because I've been
on that journey since I was a little hollered back
from Mississippi. This journey that I'm on started way back.
So that book was just kind of like my memoirs.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Okay, where's my autograph copy? I ain't know your book.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You just send me your info when I get Oh,
I ain't left the cover, but you can get that
on Amazon or as my personal clothing website, which is
motos dash sports dot com. No personally autographic or from
that website.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, but mother loves You got one coming. See, thank you, Pigy.
I so appressed it. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying. I mean,
you know, when you could look good with a stripe
with black and silver faith, you know, and you work
at it.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
You gotta be okay with who you are, right uh?
And and okay with your skin. We talked about that
skin a lot, but that's the coach that God wanted
us to wear.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
You know what God made. You know what God made?
You know what God made us? You know what God
made us? Like this?
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Right? Yes?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You know why because He knew we could handle it. Yes,
and we can't handle this. And and I love the
fact that you're off always in the community. You know,
you're not somebody else. You know how they had a
bunch of bodyguards and everything. Now you've got to be
just you be protecting the bodyguards. I'm gonna be half.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
That guy, you know, you got you gotta be about
the people when you when you walking in that life
on his life, you know, and that with that faith,
you know, I pretty much go wherever mother, because I
just pre and go. Even during the pandemic, people were
like scowling bag and doing this and that, you know,
(49:23):
And I took the regular precautions, you know, using common sense,
which by the way, they're not teaching that anymore.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And isn't that something I you know, I was wondering
about that, you know. And I knew who was in
trouble when they took the art and took gymnasium off
the curriculum, and they wanted to have come. So many
of our kids are not not just fat chevy kids.
These children are morbidly obese that a lot of them
might not make it to the twenty first birthday. And
they think, we know, that's no big deal. And I
(49:52):
understand people are stressed out. I'm a stress eater. I
eat when I'm happy, I eat what I'm sad. I
eat when I moved, I eat when I'm glad. So
and I ain't know that and I had to learn
how to be able to modify my lifestyle. You know something,
I would not keep all that weight on me because
they were talking about, you know, my love people and
your family don't last long, so you know, you might
(50:13):
want to think about getting some of that weight off
of you. And he said I was morbidly obese. I
was like, no, I mean I'm fluffy. You know, I'm exoptic.
You know, I'm squeezy, like you want me dead with
your exhausted teeth. Whatever he said to me. And there
was a wake up call and I woke up. I
was at a red carpety ben and I just felt
(50:34):
I saw myself outside of my body and I was like,
I can't be sick like this. I know something is wrong.
I'm like, I gotta get a jump start on this,
and I haven't look back, you know, And it's so important,
you know when you know, and we can't help everybody.
I mean, I've got so much push back from family
(50:55):
and friends. You know, we all have type two diabetes,
or they have heart disease and they got LOOPID, or
they got some other kind of chronic condition co OPD.
I have them about tangement eating handles. And the first
thing Black people say is well, I don't want I
don't want to eat no diabetic food. I'm trying to
figure out what what what's that means? That means mayametic food.
(51:18):
This is food food. It's food, you know, and the
money and we don't want to eat the right things,
you know, and I ain't know. People are eating because
of stress and you know everything that's going on, and
what's gonna stop us? What's gonna help us? When you
see what you have done and what you continue to do?
What keeps you motivated? What means you say, what you
(51:40):
got to get up and do your thing?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
It's the motivation is just the fact that I get
to wake up every day, don't have to punch a cloth,
doing what I actually love to do, and then seeing
the rewards and and like I said, just the goodness
that comes from it, that warm feeling as we call it.
And you get that warm feeling, you want to embrace
(52:05):
that as much as possible. So you know, thirty three
years of me striping or paint ump as I call it.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Oh, I love that painting up. I do that the
same thing with my makeup, but I only put it
on my eyes magnificance. I wanted to add that you.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Guys call it makeup, I call it war paint.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Oh it's been war paint. It's been more pain. And
I was the first one and the first girl in
the family to start wearing makeup. And then you're like,
what's you and there doing. I'm like, I'm putting them
a war paint, you know, because I could go in
and you know, make my face look any kind of way,
and I don't mind having my face desiorated. But he
told me, no, you're not going out with a stripping face.
(52:44):
Let him do what he does, and know you're not
striping up your face. I don't have a problem with
it because I know what's up under here. Crazy, it's
up under here, Okay, I can't believe. Just just's talk
about when you're not in the violator mode? And are
you ever in the violator.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I'm like I said, and.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
That's really good. What would you say to some of
these other young men who might want to get into
a field like that, get into the a field of
especially mental health among teenagers and the young people. I mean,
I never would have thought I would have heard an
eight year old girl has to go to therapy because
she's been shamed on the internet.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
And.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
So that's why you have to. You know, we're losing
too many people to unnecessary depths, and you know, on
these drugs and stuff. And you know, I'm I'm glad
about I only come out here with no drug issues.
I did all my drug issues before I came out here.
And so if they want to get me drugs general alcohol,
I carry a big pocket book and put it in.
(53:53):
But I got I'm telling you way too much what
I do. Take ten forward with me, though I got
no shame in that. So when when did you decide
that this was gonna be with you? Because you said
know this for I'm out here, and I'm saying thirty
five years shut out, can't believe.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, I've been listening to you that long. But thirty
three years this year, I've been doing this, and it's
become my therapy because now that you can see what
I feel like, let's talk. Once we gets all of that,
let's talk or let's embrace, or let's share these moments.
You know, when I'm taking pictures with fans, always tell
(54:32):
them now that make this a memory now, so they
they pay a little bit more attentions before you're making
a memory. You can look back on it ten years,
fifty years, or your grandkids can look at it. But
we shared this moment in time because that's all we got.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
That's all we got, and couldn't look morning about yesterday.
Been there done, Dad got the funky T shirt. Let's
have to get today. I tell you this is why
today has called the present. It is just as president
of past, of time of emotion. And I like to
wake up my box with my box sitting on the bed,
so I'll do a pull in the ribbon. And sometimes
I just wrap a box up just so I could
(55:10):
tear it off me.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Oh it's it's it's amazing and and it's hardy nowadays
even again. Adult return to church and we turned to
the temples. We turned to a sense of needing and
longing to have a presence with a higher power than yourself.
And we don't do it up. We cannot. People get
on my number and say I'm a self made woman,
(55:34):
when when is wait a minute, I meant something in
the osmosis with the ax firm in the edge, it's over.
What do you mean I'm myself made. You ain't a
self made anything. I don't care how much money you make.
And let me course you go on side west his
soul he stopped. I mean, did he put down some footprints.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
All the even prints my journey. I call it the walk.
It's it's a it's a it's a blueprint to where
my legacy will lie once I'm saying and death.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
I don't think it's gonna ever be said and done.
And I don't know why you keep telling yourself that.
I heard this the other day, and I never really
thought about it like that. They said their two deaths.
Your physical body dies and your souliers re leads to
the universe, and that and you got a second time
when nobody remembers your story all about it? Well, I said,
(56:33):
now that is really really profound.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
You know that that brings by Dennis the minutes of
when you see it. I'm just my my whole journey
from getting from Mississippi, Kelly, was that once I'm done,
you know, because we all, you know, all do all
of that that one day we won't be here. But
it's leaving stories behind, and you have to do something
(56:58):
worth talking about stories to be told. So I keep
all of that in mind. If I go out in
the world on a daily basis, I don't care if
it's a complete stranger. I greet him with love. My
mom said, kill it. Even share your inemies withhod you.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Have merchant Jesus, somebody come hold my mute because I've
got to get him run about his death. People don't
understand that. I remember the first time I saw somebody
getting happy. Remember in the Baptist church that would get happy,
you know, and they get to scream in the fall
and all out, and I'm like, Okay, what's going on
with that? Why her dress up like that? Why she
pull her hair off? I don't know. It scared me
to scare me to death, and they woulday, that's the
(57:37):
spirit of the Lord. And I'm like, okay, I don't know.
If I don't want get involved in that. That looks
like a work. But when I got there and I
was able to stay there, and what am I gonna?
You know? What am I looking for in a pastor
in a church? And people got to remember that your
past and the first one and everybody in that conversation
are all humans. Now, all of us fall short of
(57:59):
the glory so I'm been in there and thinking, but oh,
he can't do that, he can't do this. I know.
We went to Vegas. I go shopping. I don't gamble,
so we can go to Vegas. And I see one
of our church ladies there and she just will, oh,
please don't tell it, Please gonna talk? No, you talking
me about it? He why would I have to even
have a conversation? What state you think I'm want? But
(58:19):
that's that's that guilt. See, I'm not gonna do the
whole guilt thing. It takes too much work to hate
and to keep that trace sustainable. It's just not it
doesn't work. So what made you decide to write the
book The Walk?
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well, like I said, when doing that, it's kind of
telling my story or getting the world to know means.
And you can be different, but different doesn't mean you
don't have purpose. We all are broad here for that.
We have a purpose. When you find a mother in love,
it's like going down there to the falls. It's like
you don't even worry about the bottle. I mean, you
(58:58):
were right.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
We do not worry about the right. And you know,
and even even if you fall off the cliff, you
know because I'm fell off the cliff. I've been pushed
off the edge of the clip because I was They
thought I was looking too far ahead. And you know,
we got to get control of her because she could
be a problem. And said, you don't even know who
our serve. You don't even know. And and God said, listen,
he told us this. I got you. He told you
(59:22):
he had you. He had you that you could go
to mountains. That's why, that's why we make a lot
of crazy and have a great time. Tell people how
they can get in touch with you.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
Oh you get a hold of me on on EDGs
at Barley to fifty seven Facebook, Wayne Maybury fifty seven
on Instagram at Maybury Wayne. They're very simple, old you.
You're in the right place.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Thank you, sir. It's always a pleasure to chat with
you know. I love you guys. The pieces and next
time we talk we go. You had to tell me
what what what the raider.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
We will get into that. Oh I want I wanted
to tell this alright, Oh Ford, God, bless you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Mother, Thank you, Thank I love you too, baby, Thank
you so much for joining us. Alright, babies, we got
to doing the s
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