October 14, 2023 • 60 mins
On this edition, Brigitte is going to start the conversation with Preston Dennet, talking about his time as a field investigator for Mufon, in California His time when living in topanga canyon ( UFO hotspot ) and his encounters there, and others encounters as well as their link together regarding " the poster " while both living in Topanga canyon as they were having ufo encounters . She will talk about the diversity of all of his books that he has written and his AMAZING You Tube channel in which each episode has the most Acceptable subject matter regarding witness Ufo encounters whilst finishing off about his other You Tube Stargate show alongside Dolly Safran lifetime contactee.
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We're enjoying a welcome after mine andwelcome to The Naked Truth and now your
host Bridgid bar Clay. Cool.Hello there, Good evening America and good
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morning England. So welcome to onex Radio podcast, my new podcast.
I'm Bridget Barclay and this is mynew show called The Naked Truth. Tonight,
we're going to be speaking with anotherone of my close friends that I've
known for well I think long,the Nick Pope actually about twenty seven years.
Spoke to him in ninety six.It is a mister Preston Dennett.
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Preston is well authored thirty one booksas as of yet soon to be doing
some more books, Sky History Channel, all of the TV documentaries. What
I want to speak about tonight isbesides all of his remarkable books, it's
his remarkable YouTube series. So ifyou haven't, if you haven't or if
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I haven't forwarded it to you,then this is the time to be in
the know. It has absolutely everythingyou need to know on any subject to
do with upology. So without furtherado, we'll go into that later.
That further ado, I want towelcome a President Dennet to the show,
to my show. Hello you Iknow right, look at us right.
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So what I didn't say in theintro is is how we met. We
met because you used to live intoPanga Canyon. I used to live into
Panga Canyon and i'd had a bigUFO encounter in Brentwood, Los Angeles that
people are starting to learn to learnabout. But I used to and I
say wholeheartedly, Presnay, I didn'ttake one. I probably took a few
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of your posters down. And Raceis going to show a poster in a
minute of the well similar to theposter that we had that I took down.
They were all on telephone polls andit said have you seen a UFO?
No, not that one that's presentthe ego. It was similar to
that. That was the messenger,that was our local Panga newspaper. But
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after I'd had my uphone counter counterin La and I saw that, Oh
my god, I got to getin touch with this guy. I didn't
have the guts to get in touchwith you, so not at that point
in ninety three, but it wasabout ninety seven I think that I did
when I came back to England.So talk me about your life at the
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very beginning, because I know thatyou worked for mufon and at the time,
and just tell me what you weredoing Intopanga. Had you had an
encounter at that stage. No,No, I grew up into Pega.
I'm originally from Illinois, but wemoved all six kids of us and my
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two parents in California. Spent threemonths in an RV traveling frost the United
States and ended up in California andspent a little bit of time in the
valley. It was too hot,so we ended up moving into Topega Canyon.
Yeah, and I was, let'ssee, eight years old. Wow,
what amazing time to be brought upin Tanger right, Oh my gosh,
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I to grow up. Oh yeah, because it's National State Park.
So let people know it's sort ofyou can get from it from the valley
and it would go to the beach. I mean you can describe it a
bit further to us, to Panga, to people that don't know what Topanga
Canyon is all about. Yeah,I mean it's surrounded by city, but
it's surprisingly rural or wilderness. Peopleactually will get lost in four days.
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I don't know how. Yeah,I know, right, Yeah, had
coyotes and deer and raccoons and wildcatsand lots of wild animals. So it
was a really cool place to growup, trumping through the creeks and climbing
in the sandstone caves. I haveno idea zero that there was UFOs flying
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around. Yeah, and I neversaw anything, which is kind of surprising
and considering it's pretty active area.Or do you not just remember anything at
that age? It might actually beright, because I did have what I
think might actually be a missing timeincident around age ten eleven, because you
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know, with six kids in thefamily, you don't skip lunch. I
did not get too lunch. I'mlike, how did you guys eat lunch
without the house? What happened?You were like, well, yes,
I was. Okay, you haveto talk about that in a minute.
Then okay, so then so thenobviously later on that you moved back to
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Tapanga or you were in there fromthat age growing up. Yeah, I
grew up there until around age twentyfive is when I moved out. Okay,
I'm the only kid who moved outand never came back, by the
way, But yeah, it wasnineteen eighty six, twenty one years old,
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and we're sitting watching the news thosewho are at the house. Yeah,
and I think it was Dan ratherTom Brokaw, one of the news
guys, came on TV and startedtalking about this pilot we'd seen a UFO
over Alaska. Okay, and nowI know the case super well, can
you Trochi? Easy for you tosay, you know, I'll never forget
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it. Wow. Okay, Butthe news report was very joking. You
know, it's not serious, verytongue in cheek. I just kind of
joked about this pilot who thought hesaw you UFO. I thought, well,
that poor man is obviously diluted becauseUFOs aren't real. The stars are
too far away. I would haveknown about it now Earth was being invaded
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by aliens. Yeah, that's whatI was thinking. And boy was I
wrong, because a couple of yearsearlier, my brother Mark, my older
brother, did come running into thehouse I was probably I don't know,
fourteen years old and said he'd seena UFO and I just said, you
know, shut up, not real, what are you talking about. But
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after hearing that news report, Iasked him about it. For some stupid
reason, I asked him and hegave me this kind of look like,
are you really ready to hear,well, that's the answer we will give
everyone now, isn't it. Yeah, but I did. I listened and
he described this amazing and Connor witha metallic disc which he chased his car.
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Well you know the area receivable Yeahyeah, so wowow yeah, so
yeah. Basically was that in daylightor was it in the evening? That
was that night? He had histwo friends with him, John greg who
I ended up calling because you don'tbelieve me talk to them, you know
them? Oh great, Well thatwas the first case I found out.
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There was a lot of people.So hence the book Your books, if
so thirty one in total of yourbooks that you've written so far. The
diversity of your books is amazing.I mean, that's just and there you
go at the top. You've gotUFOs over to Panky Canyon. I took
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that one out today out of mybookshelf and I looked in it. I
got that one given to me sentover from a lady called Elsie into Pangy
Canyon because I was back here inEngland in nineteen ninety nine she sent that
to me. Wow. Yeah,so yeah, because obviously I'd had an
encounter also into Panga Canyon, sothe diversity again, but we'll talk about
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that in a minute. Of yourYouTube channels, hence all of your books,
they are so diverse, so youcould have I mean, gosh,
I mean, well, we'll talkabout that in a minute. Right.
What we're going to say is youhave a friend called Roger that you'd had
a very close encounter with. That'scorrect, Well, that was actually an
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out of body experience that I hadbefore. Well it's all it's all relative,
Okay, Gorne then, because Ido want to talk about out of
body experiences gone, then, yeah, he was. He was my best
friend, but passed away at ayoung age from alcoholism. We just couldn't
help him. It was really sadand devastating. And at that point I
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had gotten pretty good at doing outof body stuff, so I knew I
was going to see him because prettymuch every time now when a person passes
away and they're a loved one,I know I'm going to have an encounter
with him. And I did,and it was about two weeks after he
passed on. Unlike most people youknow, who I see are after they've
passed on, during the heaven whatI would call the heavenly realms, not
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really a religious sky, but Idon't know else to describe it. It's
so beautiful up there, with theflowers and the trees and the fields and
rivers and little pathways and benches.You will love it, trust me,
and absolutely have a wonderful place tohang out. And everything glows with light.
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But that's not where he was.He was in a dark, lower
realm screaming his butt off. Okay, it was very scary for him,
I think, and especially but alsofor me to find him there, and
I told him, you know,I will help you. I'm going to
help you. And it was somuch emotion I got pulled back into my
body. But I told everyone,we need pray for Roger. He's in
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a bad place. We need tohelp him. And having read about prayer
and I know it's it has aneffect to these people on the other side
can actually hear you and feel yourlove. So I really prayed for him.
I told everyone to do it,and a couple of weeks later I
saw him in a much higher realmstill okay, more urban than what we
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would call rural and garden like,and he's thanked to me. He's like,
thanks so much for all the lovebombs. Oh so that's a bit
like when a medium works and youhave a spirit that's in front of you
and you want to move them onbecause they're stuck. They're unsure of where
they are, they're'm sure of what'shappened to them. So yeah, you
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send them love, you send theminto the light. So so from your
out of body experiences, because youhad been to them, No, you
hadn't been to the Monroe Institute,had you. You had you done the
Gateway experience. No, you know, I tried. I can't afford the
Gateway experience. I worked full time, all right, No, because I
did that back in back in ninetyoh, probably about ninety ninety, ninety
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eight, ninety nine. I've stillgot all of them now. I still
periodically pop back to it. Ilove it and put myself in the conversion
box. And you know, actuallyit's so accessible now, the Monroe Institute
online on YouTube, and it's absolutelylovely. So hence, when I got
your book, I tried some ofyour techniques, and my gosh, do
they work? Because obviously I knowyou, so I sort of like it's
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because I know you as I'm readingit, it's like you would be reading
it to me and I'm like,oh my god, I get that.
I so get that. It's amazing. Oh no, no, it's great
when you when you do because yeah, okay, so I do think you.
No, I will say give creditto Rabbit Monroe because it was ifinitely
absolutely do it. Yeah, butI did it old fashion just hard meditation.
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Gosh see, I don't have timeto meditate. I wish I did.
I need to ground myself more andmeditate. But but because yeah,
I just do. But there's there'sa few things that we all need to
do, I know. But theGateway Institute is so available and it is
so worth it because of so manyand what it has taught me. And
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I've got a few friends that doit is just you got your alpha and
your beta. That what you canactually pick up with like around us,
but further out and further out.And I think it's a bit like psychic
work, or let's say, ifyou're having a paranormal experience or a high
strangeness, your awareness just totally expandsto it, doesn't it. Yeah,
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it's absolutely the most wonderful thing Ithink that's ever happened to me. Wow.
Yeah, really, my favorite subjectand came right along when I started
doing UFO research really the same exacttime, which I always that was kind
of a coincidence. Now I thinkit's more than that. I think there's
probably something to that well, becauseit is a much stronger realm anyway,
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having a UFO experience and with thehigh strangeness, and I suppose you could.
You know, when you go outof your body and then you're once
you're conscious of it, you canpop back into your body because you think,
oh my god, I just gotout of my body. You've got
to, like you say, youlearn to flap, or you learn to
go up, or you look downupon yourself and you go, oh my
god, there I am. Andthen you realize and then boom back straight
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back in your body. It's like, oh shocked. I did it right.
So, so with Stephen Grier,I you went to the well,
you did some c C. Yeah, where did you go for that?
Then? Was that well, there'sthe photo right there. The first night
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we did it, which was Augustnineteen ninety two, okay, and that's
when I really well, let mesee, maybe it was ninety one around
there, okay, But that's whenI started having major sightings, okay,
and that was one of the firstbecause he came to whereabouts your sightings were?
Where were they? Well, Ihad received I've seen some anomalous lights
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into Panga. They're just lights andI need something really more than that.
And just prior to that, Idid have a little orb come down in
front of my car in Woodland Hills. Beautiful. Oh, I love what
the very next to to Panga.Yeah, I know I live in the
Woodlands as well. It's a prettyarea. It's very densely populated. Yes,
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But I did have missing time thereas well. It took me a
long time to realize it, butI had the little orb come down and
slid away, and that's all Iremember. I don't remember driving home,
so that is odd. It wasthat same year. Then we took a
family vacation up to Crater Lake.I saw another UFO with my brother and
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sister in law, and then Iwent to this sea SETI meeting YEP,
which was in Canoga Park right nextto the right. Oh okay local I
had a little condo which was literallya block away from where he held it
in some hotel marit I forget,but that night we went up, you
know, and that picture shows theSanta Susanna Pass on the north edge of
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the Sentimental Valley. Okay, sowhat so what's that pointing out too?
If so? Behind the ridge?What is that there? What is that
that? That is the valley behindright? Yeah, to the left okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,just beyond those hills is Simi Valley.
Oh yeah, but you know,he there was probably one hundred people
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at that lecture, and about thirtyof us maybe went up to that hill
to try to call down UFOs anddarn it if not on the first night,
something didn't show up. Heck youreiver. Yeah. In the second
night, it was probably about twelveof us, which really surprised me.
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I thought, gosh, wouldn't don'tyou want to see it? U have
hold? Isn't that why you came? Yeah? So there was just a
smaller group, and we had theseflashes of light coming over our group,
which was different. They were almoststrube like. It was weird. So
I was hooked. For the nextfive years or so, we had a
little LA group and I was acore member. I mean, I was
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there entangle minute. What year wasthis? That was starting in ninety two?
Oh darn it. I was thereat the time. Prior to well,
I was living in Tapang then yeah, no, no, I wasn't.
I was living in Losiana, GreenOlympic Beverly Hills adjacent sort of thing
at the time. Close enough.Well yeah, but yeah, well with
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LA traffic, forget it. Wellbesides being on the freeway in the four
or five at Brentwood, that's whatit did it for me. But at
that location with that picture one yearwas probably two or three years in.
We had just packed up our campand we're walking home, hadn't seen anything,
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and I saw this huge bright lighton the mountaintop. I thought,
guys, you know, did yousee that? And no one had him
like I saw something. I'm tellingyou, look right up there. And
it flashed again. Now mind you, this is on the mountaintop. So
I'm thinking, well, you know, I don't know. But we stopped
and we took out our lights andblinked at this thing, and it would
blink back at us. Yeah,And the whole time I'm thinking, well,
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this could be a person, ButI know that area. It's Rocky
Peak, it's a it's a park, it's locked at night. You're not
supposed to be up there, andthat, well, there is a fire
break. It's not easy to getto this peak, which was wilderness basically
no real trail. It's a bitlike he set you ranch then as well,
isn't it somethinking? Well, Idon't know. I don't know.
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And then I knew because this startwe were flashing back and it would flashing
us. It flashed back this enormousprismatic red light. I don't know,
big is the full moon almost?I mean it was right so red that
there's no way. I mean,you'd have to bring a search light up
there. Yeah, yeah, isn'tfeasible. And that's when I knew,
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knew, knew that this was afterten now I definitely know. Yeah,
and so yeah, because so Stephensore as well. No, by that
time he had left. This wasour core group with joel Berg's jovallejo Oh
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oh gosh, I forget all theirnames. There was a lady named Dixie.
Uh, I forget all their names, but there was you know,
I was one of the real coremembers, so h uh that. Yeah,
we had a lot of good sightingsand I had one really good one
in Tapanga actually said he was doingthat X to Panga girl. Yeah,
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I was were. They were doinga nationwide thing. All the c SETI
groups were doing it across the nation. Prested, it's time for you to
lead the meditation. I'm like,no, no, I don't. I
don't like to lead the meditation.But fine. I had been avoiding it.
And there was maybe five or sixof us in the trip at ranch.
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So you know, you go upin Trotta into the Trippet Ranch.
Is that up on the on theon the right, going up by the
fire station that way. Let mesee where is the fire station? It's
close to ye yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
it's just well one of the roadsand Trotto right up on the hillside into
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the state park. Yeah yeah.And I was sitting there, you know,
I had led the meditation. Wewere all sitting there with our eyes
closed, and I kept getting thismessage, look up, look up,
and I'm like, I'm not lookingup. My eyes are closed. It's
the middle of the meditation. Andfinally I just couldn't resist it anymore,
Like something is telling me to lookup. I'm gonna look up. And
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I did, and instantly, Imean literally the second I looked up,
this pin prick of light straight atthe zenith straight up appeared and it's a
tiny little dot, but it startedto expand expand, expand expand. And
the only way I can describe itis if you were standing under a glass
table and someone was pouring milk onit and it just UPO. I mean
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where the sky bridge it? Andthen and so I think something was coming
in or going out, because there'sthat one was description before. But wow,
shooting Star, I'm telling you thiswas not anything normal. See,
I would say, personally, andI'm sure lots of other experiences say every
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encounter that you've had is different,isn't it. Oh yeah, and it's
different for a reason. And Iknow you know, there's no rhyme and
reason except for you've got to learnfrom that experience, right, every single
one is totally different. And youjust think, you know, like you're
saying, like you're pouring milk,It's like, can you imagine looking up
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at that? You know, it'slike, Okay, that's enough to deal
with, and then you'll have anotherencounter and then that's different again, and
you're just say, oh my god, now you said that, what was
weird? About is. You know, it happened so fast and I should
have cried, hey, look itkept talking to you communicating. It was
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for me that I got. Youknow, I stopped and I looked at
everyone. Their eyes are still close. I'm like, well, this is
not going to go over well no, no, no, right, I
know, and I know you knowbecause I'm not gonna lie. What's so
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cool? Bridge it is? Youknow I did have flyers up all over
the well, you had a fewless or you had to keep putting them
up. I think you said tome that you had to keep putting them
up. I was like, whois taking my fires? I don't know
how many I had, but Iyeah, I lost it along the way.
But yeah, trying to dig oneout. I know, I know,
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I know. Don't worry, don'tworry. It is. It is
what it is. So wait onemore thing. Because someone took that fire
another person and called me up andsaid, you know, I was driving
through the Penga Canyon on this nightat this time. I'm like, wait,
what night? What time? Yeah, it was the same night,
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the same night you had more.One mile away they saw this amazing metallic
craft Raina Nassy and Bruce Merrifield sawthis kind of boomerangish shaped craft which stopped
right over the Yeah, it wasvery much like that. That's actually my
sighting. Yeah yeah, yeah,but that was a different sighting. Well
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they saw it in a minute.It was right past the straightaway going into
the canyon where the shaved hill is. I don't know if you know where
that is, but it's right theview ridge, right past viewerage, right
at the top. Yeah yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
yeah. And it stopped and turnedon its side and flashed all these lights
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at them. Oh wow. Ithink that was further confirmation because they showed
themselves on purpose, yes of course, oh yeah, oh yeah, at
the most silliest time when you leastexpect it, or or I listened to
one of your one of your YouTubevideos the other day and you were to
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oh it was with Mike Cleland init, and he was set. You
were saying that you wanted some confirmationthat you saw a bright flash of light
and you went no, no,no, no, that's not enough,
come on something else. And thenand then something swooped over you, a
big bird, an owl. Wellabout I don't know, I want to
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say probably in the summer when itwas really warm. I was sitting out
late at night by myself in theout in the front by the bees.
Bees are all asleep, My beehivesare all asleep, and looking at the
stars amazing. Saw some shooting starsand I thought, you know what,
no, no, no, no, come on, I want to see
something. And I saw something andI can't confirm what it was. It
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was just a flash of light andI thought there could be anything. And
then, you know what, justgive me a little bit more. And
then, honestly, like from rightin front of me, as I'm sitting
down on the bench, something swoopedso low with no flapping and just flew
past me and went up, andI went, okay, then I'm going
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it. I thought, that's enough. That's enough. I don't need anything
else ANDed to me exactly what isthat? Yeah, it made no noise,
it made no noise heavy, itwent just swoop past. But I
got a little oh, I've gota screech owl. Periodically he'll be outside
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the house, you know, he'snot every night, he's whenever, And
so I'm wondering if it's him orher. I don't know, right,
So that's another subject in itself withours, Mike. Mike's said that he'd
love to come on as well,so obviously that I can't wait for that
as well. So right, Iwould like also because obviously because of Tapanga
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and I'll connect you with the Tapangaand Los Angeles the valley. And I
didn't know that you lived in theWoodland Hills. Yeah, good gosh,
Okay, that's great because I didn'tknow that at the time. You know,
Catalina Island. You know, we'retalking about the we're talking about all
of the underwater flying objects, wellnot so immersible objects. I watched one
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of your most amazing YouTube videos againand I'm going to have to read out
some of the titles for that,right, Okay, So you've got underwater
UFOs and USO basis. I'm justI mean, you've got over one hundred
right YouTube episodes. So for anybodythat doesn't know police, go to Preston's
YouTube because the diversity, Like Isaid, I mean, one place to
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go. Do you want to hearabout UFOs over graveyards? Yes, so
then you've got a whole hour ofit and you went, oh my gosh,
do you want to hear about UFOsover prisons. Yeah, there you
go, you've got another hour ofit. Oh my gosh, so you
can. There's one over Preston Prisonin England, by the way, Yeah
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no, but yeah, there wassome English ones in there. Yes,
I have to say, but I'mjust going to read out some of the
titles because some of the titles arereally quite crazy. So obviously got your
out of body. You've got lotsof humanoids. I was inside the UFO
do you know what the life ofme now? Fast and furious because I'm
a total petrol head. I lovedall that. You've got one about drive
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ins American drivings. That's amazing obviously. Oh gosh, that was a great
one. Oh yes, because yes, I think you had something happened to
you, didn't you with a drivein? No? I wish I used
to go to drivings all the time. You know, there were six kids
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and they don't want to pay forall of us in the trunk. Bad
parents. Oh right, okay,Uh Erie California, obviously, I'm going
to say aliens into Panga Canyon.Uh That fifties uf fifty UFO photographs from
California were absolutely amazing. Some ofthe stills from that were phenomenal. I
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have to say so because we gotlet's talk, you know, Kim Carlsberg
had her famous encounter just off Malibupch and we're going to go back to
Catalina and a minute is Grandpa andAlien. You know, that's that was
interesting. I have to say therewas one I've got goose pimples, as
I say it, flying saucer andthe Alantean bracelet. Oh my gosh,
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that was the most remarkable high strangenessYouTube video that I saw. And with
it, it's it's you've got lotsof clips, You've got lots of drawings.
Sometimes you can have ten, tensubjects and you can have three subjects
in it. It's absolutely phenomenal.Gosh, I mean the smell of UFOs
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UFOs healing cases because everyone thinks it'sbad, Nope, because you know what
if they do, don't they cancome back and they can heal you.
And there's so many amazing cases ofthat. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know everything you are just likeyou like Nick Pope and Encyclopedia up there
of everything and extra extraterrestrial minus.That was really really interesting. But I
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like the quirky ones like over thegraveyards and things like that. But you
know over one hundred. Please goto Preston's YouTube channel and the links.
Well, the thing is, mybrother had a UFO in Well, I've
got two brothers. They both hadufhone encounters, but one of them had
a ufoone encounter in a graveyard inLimpston where I had my Chinese girl in
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the gazebo when I have my encounterin Limpston. So yeah, I was.
I saw that title. I'm goingto that and the humanoids as well.
Obviously I will find something I thinkthat I feel that fits me,
so I want to see what itis. And then it just diverses off
and you just think wow. Soanybody that doesn't know Preston's channel, I
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can't pump it even more because it'sjust amazing. So go back to your
books. You have as many books, if not so much more than I
have. How do you read everyday to get all of to get all
of that knowledge and think, right, that's going to fit into that category,
that's going to fit into that category. How does it work? Because
obviously, yeah, tell me please, Well with thirty one books, you
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have a lot to draw from constantlyinterviewing people, and let's face it,
there's a lot of recorded encounters outthere. What I love doing is finding
a specific topic and digging out patternsand research because you know, I did
find investigator case personally about a UFOover a drive in. Yeah, and
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then I ran into another, andthen I ran into another, and I
thought, you know what, there'sprobably more out there. Yeah. And
so you're digging too some of thedatabases, and you know, there were
none in terms of driving in anybooks. I found one. And you
know, I've got almost as manybooks as you have. I think you
might be beating me Bridge. Igot fifty seven. The other day,
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I told you if there was anycopies that I can that you don't have,
then, you know, I said, you know, I'm happily to
But what I do love about doingresearch is I have a huge collection of
newspaper articles me too't even talking toabout. That's where you can get some
stuff that a lot of people haven'theard about. Yeah, And then you
can you know, with the internetthese days, you can. It makes
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investigating what is it easier? Yeah, and also read it's really good as
well. Lots of people put alot of information up on Reddit, which
is quite extraordinary. You know,people ask you where enough did you get
that from? You know all themove on journals. You know. When
I joined moufan as I became afield investigator, I'm like, you know
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what, sign me up for yourjournal, and not only that, send
me every journal you've ever published issuesto. It was nineteen sixty. You
know who I am? I needthem all I was and am obsessed.
Are you are you? Are youstill working for me? For I am
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a field investigator, I don't activelyinvestigate for them. I still speak for
their chapters and occasionally for their maingroup, but no, I work mostly
independently. I support mof on,yes, like every group has its controversies
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and issues, but I love thepeople in move On. But the problem
is, let's face that we're dealingwith an active cover up which is very
well funded with a lot of time, money and energy, and as far
as I can tell, every singleUFO group at some point gets infiltrated by
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folks that aren't don't have our bestinterests in mine. Yeah, So I'm
going to ask problem. I'm goingto ask you something that I asked Nick
Pope last week, what do youwhere do you see experiences in all of
this in the way of government,you know of because all they're interested in
right now is pilot reports. Andyou know, don't get me wrong,
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you know they've got some remarkable,well remarkable footage and being a pilot.
I suppose you know you you knowyour you know your distances, you know
your speeds, you know all ofthat because you've got all the you know,
you've got all the dolls and everythingin front of you. You know,
there's us saying well it was aboutforty five foot and blah blah and
you know, wings span, nofeelage. But where do you see us
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as a as experiences and all ofthis, you know, being able to
be listened to? H that wasall I feel, honestly that the experience
of phenomena is the core, theheart. Absolutely, this is where we're
going to need to be speaking tous, don't they And they're not,
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which is why it's laughable. It'sdisingenuous. It's not disclosure. They are
talking about simple sightings and ignoring thelanding cases. Anyone who ever had contact,
Yeah, the communication like you saythat you have prior to your experience.
There's a knowing you know, didthe pilots don't get that? The
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pilots then just see something that youknow, you know, God knows how
many you know miles away? Willthey pick it up on radar? Hang
on a minute, there's yourself,like you're saying that you had missing time
when you were younger, and we'retalking about collectively everybody that has been an
experiencer. You know that there isa pattern. There is a total pattern,
whether it be in the family,would it be you know, and
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the high strangers, and every singlelike we say, encounter that you have
is different for a reason. Youknow. It's like, I mean,
god, I mean, it's phenomenal. Why they're just not like they're not
even you know, opening the doorsto any of us. Yeah, it's
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it's a very bad decision in myopinion on how they're handling this. And
I mean NASA saying, oh,well, we formed a commission and we're
going to study all these sightings.I'm like, sure you are. I
don't believe you for a second.Yeah, we've been doing I mean,
there's eighty years of research going tothe subject. When you're looking at sightings.
Yeah, don't be you know,you know for me for a dance.
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Yeah, your pointing the telescope inthe wrong direction, because it's about
them communicating with us, you know, not they know, I don't think
that they're being truthful. Let's faceit out look at a map of all
the saddle it's surrounding our planet andit's black. I mean, the sky
is filled with satellites the Earth andthe space around our planet. There's thousands
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of thousands of them. And you'retelling me you don't have evidence. Sure
you don't. But again you've talkedabout an orb okay, so you know
that is uh some something energy formcommunicating with you. So not necessarily are
they going to pick that up becauseit could just literally pop into the into
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your room as and when and thenyou're then seeing it and communicating with it.
So you know, you know,as an experiencer, you know because
you've had that happen to yourself,that that's what it's about. Really,
that's you know, people won't getthese they won't get that will their following
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experiences. The government is acting experiencers, particularly those who have a lot And
I know this because I've seen itfirsthand. I talked to one lady who
had her hypnosis tape stolen. Italked to another guy. I'm like,
write down all your experiences. That'sthe first step you need to do.
And he did. He put theenvelope on the mantle. Someone broke into
his house and stole his those notes, not his money. Dolly Saffron is
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another example. She sent me picturesof these black SUVs, you know,
outside her house. And when wewent to a UFO con in Nevada,
we were followed to the Airbnb thatwe had rented. And absolutely I know
this wasn't me being paranoid because withseveral streets and I pulled into the driveway
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and this darn car blocked the drivewayand glared at us. I'm like,
really, well, yeah, Imean, intimidation is a part of it,
isn't it. When I got arrested, are fifty one with That's another
story. That's another episode, folks. But we had that as well,
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where we had intimidation that night wherewe stayed and then the next day where
we stayed. The big the bigvehicles and they would come right up to
us. Take lich, get outof the car, take a picture of
us, probably a couple of metersaway from us, then get back in
the car. I mean that happenedonce. Yeah, walking outside of my
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condo, this car goes right toa stop in the middle of the road,
takes a picture of me. Myfirst instinct is to look around,
like, who's Yeah, why arethey taking a picture? It was of
me? Yeah, what what doyou want to know? Come come on,
let's talk exactly. We'll tell youwhat do you want to know?
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The thing is, we haven't gotanything to HiPE because we're public about our
experiences, and I think that's justthe best way. It's a bit Stephen
Greer, you know, you've gotto go public with all of us.
We've got to go public because we'vehad these experiences, you know. I
mean there are people that have experiencesthat don't go public, and you know,
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and I'm sure that people come toyou and say, you know what
this is, what's happened to me? Please don't put my name to it.
You know, there's there's so manyranges of people that have experiences.
One of my one of my schoolfriends, had the most remarkable experience with
a couple of there's I think fouror five of them, they're on dates
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with their boyfriends. When we wereat school and an object with red,
blue, and yellow flashing lights wasjust above them or all of them.
And I remember her telling me inthe morning, going, oh my god,
that's so amazing. But because Ihad had experiences were growing up as
a child, so I just thoughtit was so amazing. But she doesn't
talk about it. I mean,me and her do, but she didn't
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ever want it to go public aboutit. So you know, everyone comes
into this subject in a different way, I suppose. Or you could be
a secret reader, a secret personon the internet just looking at up to
everybody. Oh god, do youget pressed and shut up? Don't talk
about it anymore. The beginning,my family thought I had lost my mind.
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To the day he died, mydad would never talk about it,
never read one of my books.Why don't you just write science fiction?
But he'd be so proud of younow, both of both of your parents
be so proud of you now.And that's the way that I see it.
I mean, my mum used toroll her eyes. She didn't she
didn't understand because that was the firstplace that I went back to when I
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came back from the States. Butyou know what, I know them upstairs,
and they give me signs all ofthe time, literally, and they
just know that you know what,Yeah, you were right. Just do
what you're doing, you know so, And that's the best that we can
all do. So yeah, andI think that we do get a bit
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of guidance from all of them upstairs. And it's all into linked anyway,
as you know. You know,I wasn't going to go to that c
set meeting with Stephen Greer. Iwas forming LA it's too expensive. And
the newspaper called me up and theeditors like, I have no idea why
I'm doing this, but we wantto pay your way if you write an
article for the Messenger. The dependon newspaper. Oh well, and oh
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pas absolutely a guidance, I think, yes, because there's this weird points.
I mean, I go to thepost office and someone say, what
do you think about UFOs? Myfirst instinct is look to see if I'm
wearing my UFO. Sure why askingme about UFOs? He doesn't know me,
I don't know him. Oh,I mean it's the weird coincidences are
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just off the charts in this field. They are They really truly are,
and you just can't. You can'teven make it up when you tell people
go what yeah, right, yeah, yeah, not just yeah, And
it follows you all over the world, doesn't it. It's not just in
one place. It just I know, you know what people say, you
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know, why are you? Butyou know what, I am so blessed
and I know that you are soblessed by having these experiences in Dolly and
everybody else that have had these,I mean, because it's remarkable. I
won't want to be just a boringperson that lives next door that just doesn't
do anything and watches the same crapall day, you know, No,
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I would like to be different.Okay, definitely a little bit stressful because
people are talking about sports and Iwant to talk about life after that.
But saying that, saying that it'smore popular now so and and it's really
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nice that if someone comes up toyou and go, hey, I had
that you do this, and yougo yeah, and they genuinely are interested
and generally or they'll say, well, look this is what happened to me.
So so many people come from workor whatever, like, you know,
I didn't want to tell anyone,but now that we're alone. You
know, I had inn Coner,what do you think of this? And
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they tell me this amazing story.I got a lot of my first accounts
from people at work, and Iworked in that there was a lot of
turnover at our office where I didyou know, data entry and bookkeeping.
I'll never forget the time Connie Lopezwalked into my office and my boss,
who was totally into it, hadbought me a little gray alien statue put
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it on my desk, and Connorand she scareams and points at that.
It's like, what is that?President? What do you think that is?
She said, I don't know,but I saw one of those like
you did. I got this amazingstory from her. Oh wow, you're
not putting it in one of mybooks. Tell me what happened? Amazing.
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So right, let's lead on toCatalina, because we're sort of like
doing around your circular area, wellnot now, but where it was.
So Catalina, talk to me aboutCatalina because on one of your YouTube videos
there was a great picture. Zoomedit actually, and then you sent me
another picture. I don't know ifI sent that to Race. I think
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I did, but he's not goingto find that. Now it was the
one, uh, the one withlifeguards, but I don't think I did
send that one tray. So you'vegot one. Tell me the story about
this, the chap that had photographedif Race wants to put it up,
it's the photograph over Catalina. Tellme a little bit of history on Catalina,
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because there's a naval base there onCatalina, and lots of people report
everything there and and Kim Carlsburg wouldhave been looking out towards that area right
exactly. Yeah, it was.The Catalina Channel is right off the coast
of La southern California. Yeah,Catalina islands like twenty six miles out and
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this is where there are I mean, I've got over one hundred and fifty
cases there, well closer to twohundred. Now, that's amazing. Started
getting them immediately of objects on thewater, coming out of the water,
going into the water, sometimes bothas a description of something that I was
absolutely amazed by. Carry on,yeah, yeah, and all kinds of
sightings and not just one object,sometimes multiple objects. I mean there's a
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couple of cases ten twenty thirty objectsor more than a couple actually there's a
dozens and a couple of cases involvingover one hundred objects. And there was
an ex navy as well, orjust there were sailors on a sale ship,
weren't they? I think it wasyour one that what was it?
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It was underwater UFOs and under theUFO basis, I think. But there
was a gentleman that had photographed something, but he that he saw just this
massive object underneath the water, lightunderneath the water, and it was following
his sailing ships. So because youhad a lot of sailing ship descriptions,
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which was really fascinating. My dadused to have boats. My god,
that would be just really interesting.Yeah, they actually target if you look,
there's someone we can show off too. What was the title of that
of that YouTube? It wasn't thealien base the underwater UFOs? What was
the boats boats aware or something?Yeah? Please people if your sailors uh
(46:49):
yeah please yeah. And I don'tthink they're doing anything nefarious. They're basically
just showing off saying hello. Somepeople do get really frightened. Yes,
because that was lady that went underneathit and went back into the boat.
She was so scared of what shesaw witness with her with her husband,
and he was navy. Wasn't heex navy? Yep, yep. Yeah.
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We talked to the people who whenI was a submarine navigator. Yeah,
I mean they know they're like pilots, right, they would know from
from their expertise underneath the water aboutwhat on earth is that there? And
my brother once described me seeing myUFO is like to be it's probably like
(47:30):
seeing a BT phone box in themiddle of the Atlantic Ocean. And I
sort of looked and thought, well, yeah, it is kind of like
that, because you think, whaton earth is that doing there? So
tell me talk to me about someof the cases, because it's just so
fascinating seeing an object or you know, going past you across to Catalina Island
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doing a night crossing, Yeah,overshot the harbor. So we're going along
the coast of Kettaline Island and suddenlyunderneath his boat it's all it up.
It says, it looked like aswimming pool all lit up. It was
much bigger than his beat, sothere was a huge object underneath him.
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That's one of the many boating caseswhich I love because how do you explain
that that's well, exactly that's whatfascinated me. You know. You know,
have you been over and visited Katalinaquite a bit? Yes? Sure,
Yeah, one place I never went. Actually i'd love to. Oh
you've got to. It's really beautiful, absolutely a wonderful place. The water,
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everything about it is amazing. It'sexpensive. It is a tourist trap
for sure. Yeah. But yeah, I've been there, I don't know
a half dozen times. And thatis the place to see UFOs and usos.
Yeah, you know. I dida TV show with Josh Gates,
(49:00):
I Explorer. I forget what thename of the show is. You've done
so many that's why. But I'mlike, here's you know, and actually
interviewed me. It was the coolestthing. And I'm like, that's where
should we go? You know,where would be the best place. I'm
like, good on Catalina Island andlook towards the mainland and you will probably
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if you hang out there enough,you'll see stuff. And they did,
and they caught it on film.Oh you know, because the reality TV
shows they go out there and theymake this big deal nothing ever happened,
but it did. And they showedthis object coming up out of the water,
right up shooting up. It wasunbelievable. I mean, it was
a good capture of this actual USO. And they said to other, do
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you think the synchronous tis because youbecause you had said to them where to
go, because you are an experiencer, because that's how it works as well?
Right, Well, could I thinkthe ets know what they're doing?
You know? Yes, here's anopportunity for some publicity. You get this.
I did Keeping Up with the Kardashians. I did that show. Yes,
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they called me up. No,yes, oh yeah, yeah,
I heard about all the activity.I'm like, well, you're in the
grid. Air yourself to the devil. They were very nice. They were
really nice. I don't watch theshow, so I can't tell you what
goes on. It's just my tea. But I told him, if you
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really want to see a UFO,you can just stay out late at night,
meditate. Yeah, you can callthem down and the five. Yeah,
but be prepared because they could showup. And it's funny, because
amazing it is. This orb appearedand I think it was Chloe and her
(50:52):
boyfriend jumped up, looked at it, so don't take us, take Preston
and ran back inside. You guys, I told you something up. Oh
wow, oh right, Oh gosh, you're gonna have to send me the
link to that or everybody google thelink, Google link. Episode was it?
What episode? Because that's quite funny. Was right before the season ended,
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so it was like the fifth tolast episode. Oh wow, I
forget the name of it. Butshe literally said, ta tape press that
wrong? Here take me, well, I want to get off. Oh
wow. Okay, so right,tell me what's your what's your most I
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mean, we've all got fabe.Well, every encounters different. Give me
a couple of your favorite ones ofyour own. One that was a pretty
early encounter in loving the steamship aLeaky, a Japanese steamship who was off
the coast of Long Beach and sawthis fireball coming down and it hit the
water. What year was this wasnineteen sixty eight, it was around there.
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It was a pretty early case.Okay, But what's really cool is
this fireball comes down and hits thewater and well it's a fireball, but
then it comes up out of thewater and flies off, and that's pretty
rare just to have something go inand out. A lot of people see
something coming in a lot of peoplesee something coming out or flying around,
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like skimming. It's like skimming apebbles literally went down and then just flicked
back straight back up underwater. Itdidn't just go on the surface. They
went underwater and came back out andwas still this glowing object. So clearly
not a fireball. It's an amazingcase. And another one I really liked
was Ninsta Eridando Beach in nineteen fiftyfour. All the same area. Oh
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don't beach is nothing any You can'tgo a mile on the Pacific Coast Highway
where there is not a case.Literally every single mile I can name a
case because that's how active it is. You got Hemosa Beach, haven't you.
You got Redondo Beach, Hemosa Beach, then you got Huntington Beach.
You got all that that stripped downthere. Yeah. I spent a bit
time in Hemosa. One of mybest friends lived down at MYSA in great
(53:13):
place. But this case at RedondoBeach involved this giant orange object, a
desk, which came down and ina gliding motion and landed on the surface
right off the shore of Redondo Beachlong enough that a whole crowd gathered including
police officers from Hermosa Beach which neighborsit, Redondo Beach lifeguards and a bunch
of people watched it sink beneath thewaves. They sent out a boat and
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right when they got there they couldsee it. It disappeared. They sent
out navy divers the next day withGeiger counters. Right, it should have
been there a minute ago. Itshould have been a minute afterwards, idiots.
Then the post guard releases a statementlike holding up a little what's called
a light bolle said it's a buoywith a little light on it. Okay,
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they said this is what people saw, which is laughable and obviously debunking
explanation because this darn thing came outof the sky. It wasn't a booyah,
and it was bigger than the guy'sboat. So many people saw it.
It floated on the surface and thenwent down. It wasn't a light
booy It's ridiculous, But so manycases. There was one right off the
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Charthhouse restaurant, right off the pegA canyon where the people were watching this
object. I don't know which one. Where is that one right at the
end of Tapanga on onto piece exactlyokay, yeah, right down to Blatstone.
Blatstone's way. Excuse me, Blatstonesthat way, isn't it stones?
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God? Okay. They watched thisthing dart underwater. As fast as these
things move in the sky, whichis, you know, boom boom boom,
one thousand, two thousand miles anhour, they can do that underwater.
And they saw this thing darted aroundunderwater. That's okay, phenomenal,
unexplainable. I don't know what itwould be like if I ever had an
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accounter like that. I mean,as much as everything's mind blowing, that
would really blow my mind to seean object or a light or you know.
One guy, you know, Idid the Coast to Coast show.
Yeah, and the one guy callsand he's like, yeah, I was
off the Channel islands on the northend of all this when I saw these
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whales under my boat, and Ithought they were whales, but coming up
and going down, coming up andgoing down. They were far down that
he couldn't tell what they were untilone finally came up. It wasn't a
whale, of course, it wasa gray disc perfectly round, and they
were swimming around there like a schoolof fish. So I think there's a
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parking lot down there or you know, like film the abyss. Yeah,
and I think it's a great placefor them because they're not going to be
bothered. We can't go down there. It's a great place to hide out
and you know, contact people atwill. Yeah. And I think they're
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down there in large numbers. Yeah. Well, so so there you go.
So go back to you know,pilot's reports, you know, with
Congress and everything, you know,it's not it's about those experiences as well
that are having those experiences, youknow, on their boats, whether they're
flying over Kettley well anywhere, overthe Atlantic, the North Sea, anywhere.
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Really, if you work on anoil rig, you know there's oil
rig reports. You know, whyaren't they going to aren't they researching those
or speaking to people? They justwant to know about the pilots that are
coming out now now because they areno bridget they don't they don't need to
do research. They know exactly whatit's all lie. Yeah, that's a
(57:00):
author is a pure publicity stunt.It's propaganda. It's funny. I laughed
when the tic TAC video came out. I'll just say this is the last
thing because we've got time to wrapBut when the tic Tac video came out,
it actually came out on my birthday, the sixteenth of December, and
you just thought, you can't makethat shit up. Really, that is
(57:22):
just typical. When they brought thatout, I thought, oh my god,
that was a great thing. Right, Preston, you are going to
come on again, because I've gotabsolutely loads more questions that I haven't even
asked you because we've gone on,we've gone on and everything. But thank
you. I apologize always for stealingyour your posters to pang A Canyon.
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But you know what's twenty seven yearslate, well, thirty years later,
actually it's thirty years ago that Istole them. You know, we're still
here, we're still in contact.If anything, what we're doing is we're
trying to make a difference, andthat's all that matters, right exactly.
So I think he's just saying thatwe got to wrap up. Is that
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anything you want to promote? Allright? Promote anything? Can we hear
you still, Preston? Yeah,promote yourself quickly, promote all of your
YouTube to do everything, send outstrangeness. Yeah, and that would be
really it other than thanking you forgiven letting me appear in your show.
It's awesome enough times all right,So without further ado, I would like
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anybody to go back onto this reel. I would like to thank the Anex
Network for hosting The Naked Truth withBridgett Barkley and Preston's Nnett next week.
I'm not sure who I'm going tohave on. I've got a couple of
people in the pipeline. They're justwaiting in the pipeline, so it will
be a halloweeny sort of theme,but around UFOs as always. So I
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just want to say thank you againto Preston. Please go on to his
YouTube channel. It has at thediversity is phenomenal. If you cannot be
bothered to read a book, andI've got one hundreds and hundred books,
just go on there. It's justthe one stop shop of absolutely everything.
Thank you Race for helping, andthank you to everybody for tuning in and
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back next week at eight Eastern time. So from me bridget Barclay here in
England, welcome to The Naked Truthand it's a goodbye. See you next
week. Thank you are you've beenlistening to The Naked Truth. With Bridget
(59:40):
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Neighborhood Area product Yeah Like
We're enjoying a welcome after mine andwelcome to The Naked Truth and now your
host Bridgid bar Clay. Cool.Hello there, Good evening America and good
(00:27):
morning England. So welcome to onex Radio podcast, my new podcast.
I'm Bridget Barclay and this is mynew show called The Naked Truth. Tonight,
we're going to be speaking with anotherone of my close friends that I've
known for well I think long,the Nick Pope actually about twenty seven years.
Spoke to him in ninety six.It is a mister Preston Dennett.
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Preston is well authored thirty one booksas as of yet soon to be doing
some more books, Sky History Channel, all of the TV documentaries. What
I want to speak about tonight isbesides all of his remarkable books, it's
his remarkable YouTube series. So ifyou haven't, if you haven't or if
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I haven't forwarded it to you,then this is the time to be in
the know. It has absolutely everythingyou need to know on any subject to
do with upology. So without furtherado, we'll go into that later.
That further ado, I want towelcome a President Dennet to the show,
to my show. Hello you Iknow right, look at us right.
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So what I didn't say in theintro is is how we met. We
met because you used to live intoPanga Canyon. I used to live into
Panga Canyon and i'd had a bigUFO encounter in Brentwood, Los Angeles that
people are starting to learn to learnabout. But I used to and I
say wholeheartedly, Presnay, I didn'ttake one. I probably took a few
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of your posters down. And Raceis going to show a poster in a
minute of the well similar to theposter that we had that I took down.
They were all on telephone polls andit said have you seen a UFO?
No, not that one that's presentthe ego. It was similar to
that. That was the messenger,that was our local Panga newspaper. But
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after I'd had my uphone counter counterin La and I saw that, Oh
my god, I got to getin touch with this guy. I didn't
have the guts to get in touchwith you, so not at that point
in ninety three, but it wasabout ninety seven I think that I did
when I came back to England.So talk me about your life at the
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very beginning, because I know thatyou worked for mufon and at the time,
and just tell me what you weredoing Intopanga. Had you had an
encounter at that stage. No,No, I grew up into Pega.
I'm originally from Illinois, but wemoved all six kids of us and my
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two parents in California. Spent threemonths in an RV traveling frost the United
States and ended up in California andspent a little bit of time in the
valley. It was too hot,so we ended up moving into Topega Canyon.
Yeah, and I was, let'ssee, eight years old. Wow,
what amazing time to be brought upin Tanger right, Oh my gosh,
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I to grow up. Oh yeah, because it's National State Park.
So let people know it's sort ofyou can get from it from the valley
and it would go to the beach. I mean you can describe it a
bit further to us, to Panga, to people that don't know what Topanga
Canyon is all about. Yeah,I mean it's surrounded by city, but
it's surprisingly rural or wilderness. Peopleactually will get lost in four days.
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I don't know how. Yeah,I know, right, Yeah, had
coyotes and deer and raccoons and wildcatsand lots of wild animals. So it
was a really cool place to growup, trumping through the creeks and climbing
in the sandstone caves. I haveno idea zero that there was UFOs flying
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around. Yeah, and I neversaw anything, which is kind of surprising
and considering it's pretty active area.Or do you not just remember anything at
that age? It might actually beright, because I did have what I
think might actually be a missing timeincident around age ten eleven, because you
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know, with six kids in thefamily, you don't skip lunch. I
did not get too lunch. I'mlike, how did you guys eat lunch
without the house? What happened?You were like, well, yes,
I was. Okay, you haveto talk about that in a minute.
Then okay, so then so thenobviously later on that you moved back to
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Tapanga or you were in there fromthat age growing up. Yeah, I
grew up there until around age twentyfive is when I moved out. Okay,
I'm the only kid who moved outand never came back, by the
way, But yeah, it wasnineteen eighty six, twenty one years old,
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and we're sitting watching the news thosewho are at the house. Yeah,
and I think it was Dan ratherTom Brokaw, one of the news
guys, came on TV and startedtalking about this pilot we'd seen a UFO
over Alaska. Okay, and nowI know the case super well, can
you Trochi? Easy for you tosay, you know, I'll never forget
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it. Wow. Okay, Butthe news report was very joking. You
know, it's not serious, verytongue in cheek. I just kind of
joked about this pilot who thought hesaw you UFO. I thought, well,
that poor man is obviously diluted becauseUFOs aren't real. The stars are
too far away. I would haveknown about it now Earth was being invaded
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by aliens. Yeah, that's whatI was thinking. And boy was I
wrong, because a couple of yearsearlier, my brother Mark, my older
brother, did come running into thehouse I was probably I don't know,
fourteen years old and said he'd seena UFO and I just said, you
know, shut up, not real, what are you talking about. But
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after hearing that news report, Iasked him about it. For some stupid
reason, I asked him and hegave me this kind of look like,
are you really ready to hear,well, that's the answer we will give
everyone now, isn't it. Yeah, but I did. I listened and
he described this amazing and Connor witha metallic disc which he chased his car.
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Well you know the area receivable Yeahyeah, so wowow yeah, so
yeah. Basically was that in daylightor was it in the evening? That
was that night? He had histwo friends with him, John greg who
I ended up calling because you don'tbelieve me talk to them, you know
them? Oh great, Well thatwas the first case I found out.
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There was a lot of people.So hence the book Your books, if
so thirty one in total of yourbooks that you've written so far. The
diversity of your books is amazing.I mean, that's just and there you
go at the top. You've gotUFOs over to Panky Canyon. I took
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that one out today out of mybookshelf and I looked in it. I
got that one given to me sentover from a lady called Elsie into Pangy
Canyon because I was back here inEngland in nineteen ninety nine she sent that
to me. Wow. Yeah,so yeah, because obviously I'd had an
encounter also into Panga Canyon, sothe diversity again, but we'll talk about
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that in a minute. Of yourYouTube channels, hence all of your books,
they are so diverse, so youcould have I mean, gosh,
I mean, well, we'll talkabout that in a minute. Right.
What we're going to say is youhave a friend called Roger that you'd had
a very close encounter with. That'scorrect, Well, that was actually an
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out of body experience that I hadbefore. Well it's all it's all relative,
Okay, Gorne then, because Ido want to talk about out of
body experiences gone, then, yeah, he was. He was my best
friend, but passed away at ayoung age from alcoholism. We just couldn't
help him. It was really sadand devastating. And at that point I
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had gotten pretty good at doing outof body stuff, so I knew I
was going to see him because prettymuch every time now when a person passes
away and they're a loved one,I know I'm going to have an encounter
with him. And I did,and it was about two weeks after he
passed on. Unlike most people youknow, who I see are after they've
passed on, during the heaven whatI would call the heavenly realms, not
(09:13):
really a religious sky, but Idon't know else to describe it. It's
so beautiful up there, with theflowers and the trees and the fields and
rivers and little pathways and benches.You will love it, trust me,
and absolutely have a wonderful place tohang out. And everything glows with light.
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But that's not where he was.He was in a dark, lower
realm screaming his butt off. Okay, it was very scary for him,
I think, and especially but alsofor me to find him there, and
I told him, you know,I will help you. I'm going to
help you. And it was somuch emotion I got pulled back into my
body. But I told everyone,we need pray for Roger. He's in
(10:01):
a bad place. We need tohelp him. And having read about prayer
and I know it's it has aneffect to these people on the other side
can actually hear you and feel yourlove. So I really prayed for him.
I told everyone to do it,and a couple of weeks later I
saw him in a much higher realmstill okay, more urban than what we
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would call rural and garden like,and he's thanked to me. He's like,
thanks so much for all the lovebombs. Oh so that's a bit
like when a medium works and youhave a spirit that's in front of you
and you want to move them onbecause they're stuck. They're unsure of where
they are, they're'm sure of what'shappened to them. So yeah, you
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send them love, you send theminto the light. So so from your
out of body experiences, because youhad been to them, No, you
hadn't been to the Monroe Institute,had you. You had you done the
Gateway experience. No, you know, I tried. I can't afford the
Gateway experience. I worked full time, all right, No, because I
did that back in back in ninetyoh, probably about ninety ninety, ninety
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eight, ninety nine. I've stillgot all of them now. I still
periodically pop back to it. Ilove it and put myself in the conversion
box. And you know, actuallyit's so accessible now, the Monroe Institute
online on YouTube, and it's absolutelylovely. So hence, when I got
your book, I tried some ofyour techniques, and my gosh, do
they work? Because obviously I knowyou, so I sort of like it's
(11:37):
because I know you as I'm readingit, it's like you would be reading
it to me and I'm like,oh my god, I get that.
I so get that. It's amazing. Oh no, no, it's great
when you when you do because yeah, okay, so I do think you.
No, I will say give creditto Rabbit Monroe because it was ifinitely
absolutely do it. Yeah, butI did it old fashion just hard meditation.
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Gosh see, I don't have timeto meditate. I wish I did.
I need to ground myself more andmeditate. But but because yeah,
I just do. But there's there'sa few things that we all need to
do, I know. But theGateway Institute is so available and it is
so worth it because of so manyand what it has taught me. And
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I've got a few friends that doit is just you got your alpha and
your beta. That what you canactually pick up with like around us,
but further out and further out.And I think it's a bit like psychic
work, or let's say, ifyou're having a paranormal experience or a high
strangeness, your awareness just totally expandsto it, doesn't it. Yeah,
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it's absolutely the most wonderful thing Ithink that's ever happened to me. Wow.
Yeah, really, my favorite subjectand came right along when I started
doing UFO research really the same exacttime, which I always that was kind
of a coincidence. Now I thinkit's more than that. I think there's
probably something to that well, becauseit is a much stronger realm anyway,
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having a UFO experience and with thehigh strangeness, and I suppose you could.
You know, when you go outof your body and then you're once
you're conscious of it, you canpop back into your body because you think,
oh my god, I just gotout of my body. You've got
to, like you say, youlearn to flap, or you learn to
go up, or you look downupon yourself and you go, oh my
god, there I am. Andthen you realize and then boom back straight
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back in your body. It's like, oh shocked. I did it right.
So, so with Stephen Grier,I you went to the well,
you did some c C. Yeah, where did you go for that?
Then? Was that well, there'sthe photo right there. The first night
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we did it, which was Augustnineteen ninety two, okay, and that's
when I really well, let mesee, maybe it was ninety one around
there, okay, But that's whenI started having major sightings, okay,
and that was one of the firstbecause he came to whereabouts your sightings were?
Where were they? Well, Ihad received I've seen some anomalous lights
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into Panga. They're just lights andI need something really more than that.
And just prior to that, Idid have a little orb come down in
front of my car in Woodland Hills. Beautiful. Oh, I love what
the very next to to Panga.Yeah, I know I live in the
Woodlands as well. It's a prettyarea. It's very densely populated. Yes,
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But I did have missing time thereas well. It took me a
long time to realize it, butI had the little orb come down and
slid away, and that's all Iremember. I don't remember driving home,
so that is odd. It wasthat same year. Then we took a
family vacation up to Crater Lake.I saw another UFO with my brother and
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sister in law, and then Iwent to this sea SETI meeting YEP,
which was in Canoga Park right nextto the right. Oh okay local I
had a little condo which was literallya block away from where he held it
in some hotel marit I forget,but that night we went up, you
know, and that picture shows theSanta Susanna Pass on the north edge of
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the Sentimental Valley. Okay, sowhat so what's that pointing out too?
If so? Behind the ridge?What is that there? What is that
that? That is the valley behindright? Yeah, to the left okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,just beyond those hills is Simi Valley.
Oh yeah, but you know,he there was probably one hundred people
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at that lecture, and about thirtyof us maybe went up to that hill
to try to call down UFOs anddarn it if not on the first night,
something didn't show up. Heck youreiver. Yeah. In the second
night, it was probably about twelveof us, which really surprised me.
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I thought, gosh, wouldn't don'tyou want to see it? U have
hold? Isn't that why you came? Yeah? So there was just a
smaller group, and we had theseflashes of light coming over our group,
which was different. They were almoststrube like. It was weird. So
I was hooked. For the nextfive years or so, we had a
little LA group and I was acore member. I mean, I was
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there entangle minute. What year wasthis? That was starting in ninety two?
Oh darn it. I was thereat the time. Prior to well,
I was living in Tapang then yeah, no, no, I wasn't.
I was living in Losiana, GreenOlympic Beverly Hills adjacent sort of thing
at the time. Close enough.Well yeah, but yeah, well with
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LA traffic, forget it. Wellbesides being on the freeway in the four
or five at Brentwood, that's whatit did it for me. But at
that location with that picture one yearwas probably two or three years in.
We had just packed up our campand we're walking home, hadn't seen anything,
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and I saw this huge bright lighton the mountaintop. I thought,
guys, you know, did yousee that? And no one had him
like I saw something. I'm tellingyou, look right up there. And
it flashed again. Now mind you, this is on the mountaintop. So
I'm thinking, well, you know, I don't know. But we stopped
and we took out our lights andblinked at this thing, and it would
blink back at us. Yeah,And the whole time I'm thinking, well,
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this could be a person, ButI know that area. It's Rocky
Peak, it's a it's a park, it's locked at night. You're not
supposed to be up there, andthat, well, there is a fire
break. It's not easy to getto this peak, which was wilderness basically
no real trail. It's a bitlike he set you ranch then as well,
isn't it somethinking? Well, Idon't know. I don't know.
(18:02):
And then I knew because this startwe were flashing back and it would flashing
us. It flashed back this enormousprismatic red light. I don't know,
big is the full moon almost?I mean it was right so red that
there's no way. I mean,you'd have to bring a search light up
there. Yeah, yeah, isn'tfeasible. And that's when I knew,
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knew, knew that this was afterten now I definitely know. Yeah,
and so yeah, because so Stephensore as well. No, by that
time he had left. This wasour core group with joel Berg's jovallejo Oh
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oh gosh, I forget all theirnames. There was a lady named Dixie.
Uh, I forget all their names, but there was you know,
I was one of the real coremembers, so h uh that. Yeah,
we had a lot of good sightingsand I had one really good one
in Tapanga actually said he was doingthat X to Panga girl. Yeah,
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I was were. They were doinga nationwide thing. All the c SETI
groups were doing it across the nation. Prested, it's time for you to
lead the meditation. I'm like,no, no, I don't. I
don't like to lead the meditation.But fine. I had been avoiding it.
And there was maybe five or sixof us in the trip at ranch.
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So you know, you go upin Trotta into the Trippet Ranch.
Is that up on the on theon the right, going up by the
fire station that way. Let mesee where is the fire station? It's
close to ye yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
it's just well one of the roadsand Trotto right up on the hillside into
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the state park. Yeah yeah.And I was sitting there, you know,
I had led the meditation. Wewere all sitting there with our eyes
closed, and I kept getting thismessage, look up, look up,
and I'm like, I'm not lookingup. My eyes are closed. It's
the middle of the meditation. Andfinally I just couldn't resist it anymore,
Like something is telling me to lookup. I'm gonna look up. And
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I did, and instantly, Imean literally the second I looked up,
this pin prick of light straight atthe zenith straight up appeared and it's a
tiny little dot, but it startedto expand expand, expand expand. And
the only way I can describe itis if you were standing under a glass
table and someone was pouring milk onit and it just UPO. I mean
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where the sky bridge it? Andthen and so I think something was coming
in or going out, because there'sthat one was description before. But wow,
shooting Star, I'm telling you thiswas not anything normal. See,
I would say, personally, andI'm sure lots of other experiences say every
(21:06):
encounter that you've had is different,isn't it. Oh yeah, and it's
different for a reason. And Iknow you know, there's no rhyme and
reason except for you've got to learnfrom that experience, right, every single
one is totally different. And youjust think, you know, like you're
saying, like you're pouring milk,It's like, can you imagine looking up
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at that? You know, it'slike, Okay, that's enough to deal
with, and then you'll have anotherencounter and then that's different again, and
you're just say, oh my god, now you said that, what was
weird? About is. You know, it happened so fast and I should
have cried, hey, look itkept talking to you communicating. It was
(21:48):
for me that I got. Youknow, I stopped and I looked at
everyone. Their eyes are still close. I'm like, well, this is
not going to go over well no, no, no, right, I
know, and I know you knowbecause I'm not gonna lie. What's so
(22:08):
cool? Bridge it is? Youknow I did have flyers up all over
the well, you had a fewless or you had to keep putting them
up. I think you said tome that you had to keep putting them
up. I was like, whois taking my fires? I don't know
how many I had, but Iyeah, I lost it along the way.
But yeah, trying to dig oneout. I know, I know,
(22:30):
I know. Don't worry, don'tworry. It is. It is
what it is. So wait onemore thing. Because someone took that fire
another person and called me up andsaid, you know, I was driving
through the Penga Canyon on this nightat this time. I'm like, wait,
what night? What time? Yeah, it was the same night,
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the same night you had more.One mile away they saw this amazing metallic
craft Raina Nassy and Bruce Merrifield sawthis kind of boomerangish shaped craft which stopped
right over the Yeah, it wasvery much like that. That's actually my
sighting. Yeah yeah, yeah,but that was a different sighting. Well
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they saw it in a minute.It was right past the straightaway going into
the canyon where the shaved hill is. I don't know if you know where
that is, but it's right theview ridge, right past viewerage, right
at the top. Yeah yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
yeah. And it stopped and turnedon its side and flashed all these lights
(23:37):
at them. Oh wow. Ithink that was further confirmation because they showed
themselves on purpose, yes of course, oh yeah, oh yeah, at
the most silliest time when you leastexpect it, or or I listened to
one of your one of your YouTubevideos the other day and you were to
(24:00):
oh it was with Mike Cleland init, and he was set. You
were saying that you wanted some confirmationthat you saw a bright flash of light
and you went no, no,no, no, that's not enough,
come on something else. And thenand then something swooped over you, a
big bird, an owl. Wellabout I don't know, I want to
(24:22):
say probably in the summer when itwas really warm. I was sitting out
late at night by myself in theout in the front by the bees.
Bees are all asleep, My beehivesare all asleep, and looking at the
stars amazing. Saw some shooting starsand I thought, you know what,
no, no, no, no, come on, I want to see
something. And I saw something andI can't confirm what it was. It
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was just a flash of light andI thought there could be anything. And
then, you know what, justgive me a little bit more. And
then, honestly, like from rightin front of me, as I'm sitting
down on the bench, something swoopedso low with no flapping and just flew
past me and went up, andI went, okay, then I'm going
(25:06):
it. I thought, that's enough. That's enough. I don't need anything
else ANDed to me exactly what isthat? Yeah, it made no noise,
it made no noise heavy, itwent just swoop past. But I
got a little oh, I've gota screech owl. Periodically he'll be outside
(25:27):
the house, you know, he'snot every night, he's whenever, And
so I'm wondering if it's him orher. I don't know, right,
So that's another subject in itself withours, Mike. Mike's said that he'd
love to come on as well,so obviously that I can't wait for that
as well. So right, Iwould like also because obviously because of Tapanga
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and I'll connect you with the Tapangaand Los Angeles the valley. And I
didn't know that you lived in theWoodland Hills. Yeah, good gosh,
Okay, that's great because I didn'tknow that at the time. You know,
Catalina Island. You know, we'retalking about the we're talking about all
of the underwater flying objects, wellnot so immersible objects. I watched one
(26:17):
of your most amazing YouTube videos againand I'm going to have to read out
some of the titles for that,right, Okay, So you've got underwater
UFOs and USO basis. I'm justI mean, you've got over one hundred
right YouTube episodes. So for anybodythat doesn't know police, go to Preston's
YouTube because the diversity, Like Isaid, I mean, one place to
(26:41):
go. Do you want to hearabout UFOs over graveyards? Yes, so
then you've got a whole hour ofit and you went, oh my gosh,
do you want to hear about UFOsover prisons. Yeah, there you
go, you've got another hour ofit. Oh my gosh, so you
can. There's one over Preston Prisonin England, by the way, Yeah
(27:03):
no, but yeah, there wassome English ones in there. Yes,
I have to say, but I'mjust going to read out some of the
titles because some of the titles arereally quite crazy. So obviously got your
out of body. You've got lotsof humanoids. I was inside the UFO
do you know what the life ofme now? Fast and furious because I'm
a total petrol head. I lovedall that. You've got one about drive
(27:25):
ins American drivings. That's amazing obviously. Oh gosh, that was a great
one. Oh yes, because yes, I think you had something happened to
you, didn't you with a drivein? No? I wish I used
to go to drivings all the time. You know, there were six kids
(27:45):
and they don't want to pay forall of us in the trunk. Bad
parents. Oh right, okay,Uh Erie California, obviously, I'm going
to say aliens into Panga Canyon.Uh That fifties uf fifty UFO photographs from
California were absolutely amazing. Some ofthe stills from that were phenomenal. I
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have to say so because we gotlet's talk, you know, Kim Carlsberg
had her famous encounter just off Malibupch and we're going to go back to
Catalina and a minute is Grandpa andAlien. You know, that's that was
interesting. I have to say therewas one I've got goose pimples, as
I say it, flying saucer andthe Alantean bracelet. Oh my gosh,
(28:32):
that was the most remarkable high strangenessYouTube video that I saw. And with
it, it's it's you've got lotsof clips, You've got lots of drawings.
Sometimes you can have ten, tensubjects and you can have three subjects
in it. It's absolutely phenomenal.Gosh, I mean the smell of UFOs
(28:55):
UFOs healing cases because everyone thinks it'sbad, Nope, because you know what
if they do, don't they cancome back and they can heal you.
And there's so many amazing cases ofthat. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know everything you are just likeyou like Nick Pope and Encyclopedia up there
of everything and extra extraterrestrial minus.That was really really interesting. But I
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like the quirky ones like over thegraveyards and things like that. But you
know over one hundred. Please goto Preston's YouTube channel and the links.
Well, the thing is, mybrother had a UFO in Well, I've
got two brothers. They both hadufhone encounters, but one of them had
a ufoone encounter in a graveyard inLimpston where I had my Chinese girl in
(29:48):
the gazebo when I have my encounterin Limpston. So yeah, I was.
I saw that title. I'm goingto that and the humanoids as well.
Obviously I will find something I thinkthat I feel that fits me,
so I want to see what itis. And then it just diverses off
and you just think wow. Soanybody that doesn't know Preston's channel, I
(30:10):
can't pump it even more because it'sjust amazing. So go back to your
books. You have as many books, if not so much more than I
have. How do you read everyday to get all of to get all
of that knowledge and think, right, that's going to fit into that category,
that's going to fit into that category. How does it work? Because
obviously, yeah, tell me please, Well with thirty one books, you
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have a lot to draw from constantlyinterviewing people, and let's face it,
there's a lot of recorded encounters outthere. What I love doing is finding
a specific topic and digging out patternsand research because you know, I did
find investigator case personally about a UFOover a drive in. Yeah, and
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then I ran into another, andthen I ran into another, and I
thought, you know what, there'sprobably more out there. Yeah. And
so you're digging too some of thedatabases, and you know, there were
none in terms of driving in anybooks. I found one. And you
know, I've got almost as manybooks as you have. I think you
might be beating me Bridge. Igot fifty seven. The other day,
(31:17):
I told you if there was anycopies that I can that you don't have,
then, you know, I said, you know, I'm happily to
But what I do love about doingresearch is I have a huge collection of
newspaper articles me too't even talking toabout. That's where you can get some
stuff that a lot of people haven'theard about. Yeah, And then you
can you know, with the internetthese days, you can. It makes
(31:40):
investigating what is it easier? Yeah, and also read it's really good as
well. Lots of people put alot of information up on Reddit, which
is quite extraordinary. You know,people ask you where enough did you get
that from? You know all themove on journals. You know. When
I joined moufan as I became afield investigator, I'm like, you know
(32:01):
what, sign me up for yourjournal, and not only that, send
me every journal you've ever published issuesto. It was nineteen sixty. You
know who I am? I needthem all I was and am obsessed.
Are you are you? Are youstill working for me? For I am
(32:23):
a field investigator, I don't activelyinvestigate for them. I still speak for
their chapters and occasionally for their maingroup, but no, I work mostly
independently. I support mof on,yes, like every group has its controversies
(32:44):
and issues, but I love thepeople in move On. But the problem
is, let's face that we're dealingwith an active cover up which is very
well funded with a lot of time, money and energy, and as far
as I can tell, every singleUFO group at some point gets infiltrated by
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folks that aren't don't have our bestinterests in mine. Yeah, So I'm
going to ask problem. I'm goingto ask you something that I asked Nick
Pope last week, what do youwhere do you see experiences in all of
this in the way of government,you know of because all they're interested in
right now is pilot reports. Andyou know, don't get me wrong,
(33:27):
you know they've got some remarkable,well remarkable footage and being a pilot.
I suppose you know you you knowyour you know your distances, you know
your speeds, you know all ofthat because you've got all the you know,
you've got all the dolls and everythingin front of you. You know,
there's us saying well it was aboutforty five foot and blah blah and
you know, wings span, nofeelage. But where do you see us
(33:50):
as a as experiences and all ofthis, you know, being able to
be listened to? H that wasall I feel, honestly that the experience
of phenomena is the core, theheart. Absolutely, this is where we're
going to need to be speaking tous, don't they And they're not,
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which is why it's laughable. It'sdisingenuous. It's not disclosure. They are
talking about simple sightings and ignoring thelanding cases. Anyone who ever had contact,
Yeah, the communication like you saythat you have prior to your experience.
There's a knowing you know, didthe pilots don't get that? The
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pilots then just see something that youknow, you know, God knows how
many you know miles away? Willthey pick it up on radar? Hang
on a minute, there's yourself,like you're saying that you had missing time
when you were younger, and we'retalking about collectively everybody that has been an
experiencer. You know that there isa pattern. There is a total pattern,
whether it be in the family,would it be you know, and
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the high strangers, and every singlelike we say, encounter that you have
is different for a reason. Youknow. It's like, I mean,
god, I mean, it's phenomenal. Why they're just not like they're not
even you know, opening the doorsto any of us. Yeah, it's
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it's a very bad decision in myopinion on how they're handling this. And
I mean NASA saying, oh,well, we formed a commission and we're
going to study all these sightings.I'm like, sure you are. I
don't believe you for a second.Yeah, we've been doing I mean,
there's eighty years of research going tothe subject. When you're looking at sightings.
Yeah, don't be you know,you know for me for a dance.
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Yeah, your pointing the telescope inthe wrong direction, because it's about
them communicating with us, you know, not they know, I don't think
that they're being truthful. Let's faceit out look at a map of all
the saddle it's surrounding our planet andit's black. I mean, the sky
is filled with satellites the Earth andthe space around our planet. There's thousands
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of thousands of them. And you'retelling me you don't have evidence. Sure
you don't. But again you've talkedabout an orb okay, so you know
that is uh some something energy formcommunicating with you. So not necessarily are
they going to pick that up becauseit could just literally pop into the into
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your room as and when and thenyou're then seeing it and communicating with it.
So you know, you know,as an experiencer, you know because
you've had that happen to yourself,that that's what it's about. Really,
that's you know, people won't getthese they won't get that will their following
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experiences. The government is acting experiencers, particularly those who have a lot And
I know this because I've seen itfirsthand. I talked to one lady who
had her hypnosis tape stolen. Italked to another guy. I'm like,
write down all your experiences. That'sthe first step you need to do.
And he did. He put theenvelope on the mantle. Someone broke into
his house and stole his those notes, not his money. Dolly Saffron is
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another example. She sent me picturesof these black SUVs, you know,
outside her house. And when wewent to a UFO con in Nevada,
we were followed to the Airbnb thatwe had rented. And absolutely I know
this wasn't me being paranoid because withseveral streets and I pulled into the driveway
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and this darn car blocked the drivewayand glared at us. I'm like,
really, well, yeah, Imean, intimidation is a part of it,
isn't it. When I got arrested, are fifty one with That's another
story. That's another episode, folks. But we had that as well,
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where we had intimidation that night wherewe stayed and then the next day where
we stayed. The big the bigvehicles and they would come right up to
us. Take lich, get outof the car, take a picture of
us, probably a couple of metersaway from us, then get back in
the car. I mean that happenedonce. Yeah, walking outside of my
(38:29):
condo, this car goes right toa stop in the middle of the road,
takes a picture of me. Myfirst instinct is to look around,
like, who's Yeah, why arethey taking a picture? It was of
me? Yeah, what what doyou want to know? Come come on,
let's talk exactly. We'll tell youwhat do you want to know?
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The thing is, we haven't gotanything to HiPE because we're public about our
experiences, and I think that's justthe best way. It's a bit Stephen
Greer, you know, you've gotto go public with all of us.
We've got to go public because we'vehad these experiences, you know. I
mean there are people that have experiencesthat don't go public, and you know,
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and I'm sure that people come toyou and say, you know what
this is, what's happened to me? Please don't put my name to it.
You know, there's there's so manyranges of people that have experiences.
One of my one of my schoolfriends, had the most remarkable experience with
a couple of there's I think fouror five of them, they're on dates
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with their boyfriends. When we wereat school and an object with red,
blue, and yellow flashing lights wasjust above them or all of them.
And I remember her telling me inthe morning, going, oh my god,
that's so amazing. But because Ihad had experiences were growing up as
a child, so I just thoughtit was so amazing. But she doesn't
talk about it. I mean,me and her do, but she didn't
(39:55):
ever want it to go public aboutit. So you know, everyone comes
into this subject in a different way, I suppose. Or you could be
a secret reader, a secret personon the internet just looking at up to
everybody. Oh god, do youget pressed and shut up? Don't talk
about it anymore. The beginning,my family thought I had lost my mind.
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To the day he died, mydad would never talk about it,
never read one of my books.Why don't you just write science fiction?
But he'd be so proud of younow, both of both of your parents
be so proud of you now.And that's the way that I see it.
I mean, my mum used toroll her eyes. She didn't she
didn't understand because that was the firstplace that I went back to when I
(40:40):
came back from the States. Butyou know what, I know them upstairs,
and they give me signs all ofthe time, literally, and they
just know that you know what,Yeah, you were right. Just do
what you're doing, you know so, And that's the best that we can
all do. So yeah, andI think that we do get a bit
(41:04):
of guidance from all of them upstairs. And it's all into linked anyway,
as you know. You know,I wasn't going to go to that c
set meeting with Stephen Greer. Iwas forming LA it's too expensive. And
the newspaper called me up and theeditors like, I have no idea why
I'm doing this, but we wantto pay your way if you write an
article for the Messenger. The dependon newspaper. Oh well, and oh
(41:27):
pas absolutely a guidance, I think, yes, because there's this weird points.
I mean, I go to thepost office and someone say, what
do you think about UFOs? Myfirst instinct is look to see if I'm
wearing my UFO. Sure why askingme about UFOs? He doesn't know me,
I don't know him. Oh,I mean it's the weird coincidences are
(41:52):
just off the charts in this field. They are They really truly are,
and you just can't. You can'teven make it up when you tell people
go what yeah, right, yeah, yeah, not just yeah, And
it follows you all over the world, doesn't it. It's not just in
one place. It just I know, you know what people say, you
(42:15):
know, why are you? Butyou know what, I am so blessed
and I know that you are soblessed by having these experiences in Dolly and
everybody else that have had these,I mean, because it's remarkable. I
won't want to be just a boringperson that lives next door that just doesn't
do anything and watches the same crapall day, you know, No,
(42:35):
I would like to be different.Okay, definitely a little bit stressful because
people are talking about sports and Iwant to talk about life after that.
But saying that, saying that it'smore popular now so and and it's really
(43:00):
nice that if someone comes up toyou and go, hey, I had
that you do this, and yougo yeah, and they genuinely are interested
and generally or they'll say, well, look this is what happened to me.
So so many people come from workor whatever, like, you know,
I didn't want to tell anyone,but now that we're alone. You
know, I had inn Coner,what do you think of this? And
(43:21):
they tell me this amazing story.I got a lot of my first accounts
from people at work, and Iworked in that there was a lot of
turnover at our office where I didyou know, data entry and bookkeeping.
I'll never forget the time Connie Lopezwalked into my office and my boss,
who was totally into it, hadbought me a little gray alien statue put
(43:45):
it on my desk, and Connorand she scareams and points at that.
It's like, what is that?President? What do you think that is?
She said, I don't know,but I saw one of those like
you did. I got this amazingstory from her. Oh wow, you're
not putting it in one of mybooks. Tell me what happened? Amazing.
(44:09):
So right, let's lead on toCatalina, because we're sort of like
doing around your circular area, wellnot now, but where it was.
So Catalina, talk to me aboutCatalina because on one of your YouTube videos
there was a great picture. Zoomedit actually, and then you sent me
another picture. I don't know ifI sent that to Race. I think
(44:30):
I did, but he's not goingto find that. Now it was the
one, uh, the one withlifeguards, but I don't think I did
send that one tray. So you'vegot one. Tell me the story about
this, the chap that had photographedif Race wants to put it up,
it's the photograph over Catalina. Tellme a little bit of history on Catalina,
(44:51):
because there's a naval base there onCatalina, and lots of people report
everything there and and Kim Carlsburg wouldhave been looking out towards that area right
exactly. Yeah, it was.The Catalina Channel is right off the coast
of La southern California. Yeah,Catalina islands like twenty six miles out and
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this is where there are I mean, I've got over one hundred and fifty
cases there, well closer to twohundred. Now, that's amazing. Started
getting them immediately of objects on thewater, coming out of the water,
going into the water, sometimes bothas a description of something that I was
absolutely amazed by. Carry on,yeah, yeah, and all kinds of
sightings and not just one object,sometimes multiple objects. I mean there's a
(45:36):
couple of cases ten twenty thirty objectsor more than a couple actually there's a
dozens and a couple of cases involvingover one hundred objects. And there was
an ex navy as well, orjust there were sailors on a sale ship,
weren't they? I think it wasyour one that what was it?
(45:57):
It was underwater UFOs and under theUFO basis, I think. But there
was a gentleman that had photographed something, but he that he saw just this
massive object underneath the water, lightunderneath the water, and it was following
his sailing ships. So because youhad a lot of sailing ship descriptions,
(46:21):
which was really fascinating. My dadused to have boats. My god,
that would be just really interesting.Yeah, they actually target if you look,
there's someone we can show off too. What was the title of that
of that YouTube? It wasn't thealien base the underwater UFOs? What was
the boats boats aware or something?Yeah? Please people if your sailors uh
(46:49):
yeah please yeah. And I don'tthink they're doing anything nefarious. They're basically
just showing off saying hello. Somepeople do get really frightened. Yes,
because that was lady that went underneathit and went back into the boat.
She was so scared of what shesaw witness with her with her husband,
and he was navy. Wasn't heex navy? Yep, yep. Yeah.
(47:09):
We talked to the people who whenI was a submarine navigator. Yeah,
I mean they know they're like pilots, right, they would know from
from their expertise underneath the water aboutwhat on earth is that there? And
my brother once described me seeing myUFO is like to be it's probably like
(47:30):
seeing a BT phone box in themiddle of the Atlantic Ocean. And I
sort of looked and thought, well, yeah, it is kind of like
that, because you think, whaton earth is that doing there? So
tell me talk to me about someof the cases, because it's just so
fascinating seeing an object or you know, going past you across to Catalina Island
(47:53):
doing a night crossing, Yeah,overshot the harbor. So we're going along
the coast of Kettaline Island and suddenlyunderneath his boat it's all it up.
It says, it looked like aswimming pool all lit up. It was
much bigger than his beat, sothere was a huge object underneath him.
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That's one of the many boating caseswhich I love because how do you explain
that that's well, exactly that's whatfascinated me. You know. You know,
have you been over and visited Katalinaquite a bit? Yes? Sure,
Yeah, one place I never went. Actually i'd love to. Oh
you've got to. It's really beautiful, absolutely a wonderful place. The water,
(48:37):
everything about it is amazing. It'sexpensive. It is a tourist trap
for sure. Yeah. But yeah, I've been there, I don't know
a half dozen times. And thatis the place to see UFOs and usos.
Yeah, you know. I dida TV show with Josh Gates,
(49:00):
I Explorer. I forget what thename of the show is. You've done
so many that's why. But I'mlike, here's you know, and actually
interviewed me. It was the coolestthing. And I'm like, that's where
should we go? You know,where would be the best place. I'm
like, good on Catalina Island andlook towards the mainland and you will probably
(49:20):
if you hang out there enough,you'll see stuff. And they did,
and they caught it on film.Oh you know, because the reality TV
shows they go out there and theymake this big deal nothing ever happened,
but it did. And they showedthis object coming up out of the water,
right up shooting up. It wasunbelievable. I mean, it was
a good capture of this actual USO. And they said to other, do
(49:45):
you think the synchronous tis because youbecause you had said to them where to
go, because you are an experiencer, because that's how it works as well?
Right, Well, could I thinkthe ets know what they're doing?
You know? Yes, here's anopportunity for some publicity. You get this.
I did Keeping Up with the Kardashians. I did that show. Yes,
(50:09):
they called me up. No,yes, oh yeah, yeah,
I heard about all the activity.I'm like, well, you're in the
grid. Air yourself to the devil. They were very nice. They were
really nice. I don't watch theshow, so I can't tell you what
goes on. It's just my tea. But I told him, if you
(50:31):
really want to see a UFO,you can just stay out late at night,
meditate. Yeah, you can callthem down and the five. Yeah,
but be prepared because they could showup. And it's funny, because
amazing it is. This orb appearedand I think it was Chloe and her
(50:52):
boyfriend jumped up, looked at it, so don't take us, take Preston
and ran back inside. You guys, I told you something up. Oh
wow, oh right, Oh gosh, you're gonna have to send me the
link to that or everybody google thelink, Google link. Episode was it?
What episode? Because that's quite funny. Was right before the season ended,
(51:14):
so it was like the fifth tolast episode. Oh wow, I
forget the name of it. Butshe literally said, ta tape press that
wrong? Here take me, well, I want to get off. Oh
wow. Okay, so right,tell me what's your what's your most I
(51:35):
mean, we've all got fabe.Well, every encounters different. Give me
a couple of your favorite ones ofyour own. One that was a pretty
early encounter in loving the steamship aLeaky, a Japanese steamship who was off
the coast of Long Beach and sawthis fireball coming down and it hit the
water. What year was this wasnineteen sixty eight, it was around there.
(52:02):
It was a pretty early case.Okay, But what's really cool is
this fireball comes down and hits thewater and well it's a fireball, but
then it comes up out of thewater and flies off, and that's pretty
rare just to have something go inand out. A lot of people see
something coming in a lot of peoplesee something coming out or flying around,
(52:24):
like skimming. It's like skimming apebbles literally went down and then just flicked
back straight back up underwater. Itdidn't just go on the surface. They
went underwater and came back out andwas still this glowing object. So clearly
not a fireball. It's an amazingcase. And another one I really liked
was Ninsta Eridando Beach in nineteen fiftyfour. All the same area. Oh
(52:49):
don't beach is nothing any You can'tgo a mile on the Pacific Coast Highway
where there is not a case.Literally every single mile I can name a
case because that's how active it is. You got Hemosa Beach, haven't you.
You got Redondo Beach, Hemosa Beach, then you got Huntington Beach.
You got all that that stripped downthere. Yeah. I spent a bit
time in Hemosa. One of mybest friends lived down at MYSA in great
(53:13):
place. But this case at RedondoBeach involved this giant orange object, a
desk, which came down and ina gliding motion and landed on the surface
right off the shore of Redondo Beachlong enough that a whole crowd gathered including
police officers from Hermosa Beach which neighborsit, Redondo Beach lifeguards and a bunch
of people watched it sink beneath thewaves. They sent out a boat and
(53:37):
right when they got there they couldsee it. It disappeared. They sent
out navy divers the next day withGeiger counters. Right, it should have
been there a minute ago. Itshould have been a minute afterwards, idiots.
Then the post guard releases a statementlike holding up a little what's called
a light bolle said it's a buoywith a little light on it. Okay,
(54:01):
they said this is what people saw, which is laughable and obviously debunking
explanation because this darn thing came outof the sky. It wasn't a booyah,
and it was bigger than the guy'sboat. So many people saw it.
It floated on the surface and thenwent down. It wasn't a light
booy It's ridiculous, But so manycases. There was one right off the
(54:23):
Charthhouse restaurant, right off the pegA canyon where the people were watching this
object. I don't know which one. Where is that one right at the
end of Tapanga on onto piece exactlyokay, yeah, right down to Blatstone.
Blatstone's way. Excuse me, Blatstonesthat way, isn't it stones?
(54:45):
God? Okay. They watched thisthing dart underwater. As fast as these
things move in the sky, whichis, you know, boom boom boom,
one thousand, two thousand miles anhour, they can do that underwater.
And they saw this thing darted aroundunderwater. That's okay, phenomenal,
unexplainable. I don't know what itwould be like if I ever had an
(55:08):
accounter like that. I mean,as much as everything's mind blowing, that
would really blow my mind to seean object or a light or you know.
One guy, you know, Idid the Coast to Coast show.
Yeah, and the one guy callsand he's like, yeah, I was
off the Channel islands on the northend of all this when I saw these
(55:31):
whales under my boat, and Ithought they were whales, but coming up
and going down, coming up andgoing down. They were far down that
he couldn't tell what they were untilone finally came up. It wasn't a
whale, of course, it wasa gray disc perfectly round, and they
were swimming around there like a schoolof fish. So I think there's a
(55:51):
parking lot down there or you know, like film the abyss. Yeah,
and I think it's a great placefor them because they're not going to be
bothered. We can't go down there. It's a great place to hide out
and you know, contact people atwill. Yeah. And I think they're
(56:13):
down there in large numbers. Yeah. Well, so so there you go.
So go back to you know,pilot's reports, you know, with
Congress and everything, you know,it's not it's about those experiences as well
that are having those experiences, youknow, on their boats, whether they're
flying over Kettley well anywhere, overthe Atlantic, the North Sea, anywhere.
(56:37):
Really, if you work on anoil rig, you know there's oil
rig reports. You know, whyaren't they going to aren't they researching those
or speaking to people? They justwant to know about the pilots that are
coming out now now because they areno bridget they don't they don't need to
do research. They know exactly whatit's all lie. Yeah, that's a
(57:00):
author is a pure publicity stunt.It's propaganda. It's funny. I laughed
when the tic TAC video came out. I'll just say this is the last
thing because we've got time to wrapBut when the tic Tac video came out,
it actually came out on my birthday, the sixteenth of December, and
you just thought, you can't makethat shit up. Really, that is
(57:22):
just typical. When they brought thatout, I thought, oh my god,
that was a great thing. Right, Preston, you are going to
come on again, because I've gotabsolutely loads more questions that I haven't even
asked you because we've gone on,we've gone on and everything. But thank
you. I apologize always for stealingyour your posters to pang A Canyon.
(57:43):
But you know what's twenty seven yearslate, well, thirty years later,
actually it's thirty years ago that Istole them. You know, we're still
here, we're still in contact.If anything, what we're doing is we're
trying to make a difference, andthat's all that matters, right exactly.
So I think he's just saying thatwe got to wrap up. Is that
(58:05):
anything you want to promote? Allright? Promote anything? Can we hear
you still, Preston? Yeah,promote yourself quickly, promote all of your
YouTube to do everything, send outstrangeness. Yeah, and that would be
really it other than thanking you forgiven letting me appear in your show.
It's awesome enough times all right,So without further ado, I would like
(58:30):
anybody to go back onto this reel. I would like to thank the Anex
Network for hosting The Naked Truth withBridgett Barkley and Preston's Nnett next week.
I'm not sure who I'm going tohave on. I've got a couple of
people in the pipeline. They're justwaiting in the pipeline, so it will
be a halloweeny sort of theme,but around UFOs as always. So I
(58:52):
just want to say thank you againto Preston. Please go on to his
YouTube channel. It has at thediversity is phenomenal. If you cannot be
bothered to read a book, andI've got one hundreds and hundred books,
just go on there. It's justthe one stop shop of absolutely everything.
Thank you Race for helping, andthank you to everybody for tuning in and
(59:14):
back next week at eight Eastern time. So from me bridget Barclay here in
England, welcome to The Naked Truthand it's a goodbye. See you next
week. Thank you are you've beenlistening to The Naked Truth. With Bridget
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Barclay. Any duplication or rebroadcast ofthis program or its content without express written
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