The Nerd Clan Back again to give a review on Spider-man across the spider verse.

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Yo, was good. I'm down. I'm duce major in. Today's topic
is across the Spider Verse and thisis the nerd Box, all right,
So today, since we're going intoacross the Spider Verse, you'll give the
spoiler free review as far as themovie go, Man, how you thought,

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what you feel about it? Sofor me the movie, the movie
as a whole was definitely like aten or nine. I would say nine
point five ten. The ending withscrape garbage, Like I know, it's
a lot of people that that kindof give it a pass because the movie
is so good. But man,the last movie came out twenty eighteen,

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and we waited from twenty eighteen.It is twenty twenty three right now.
For that, just like no,man, we deserve a little bit more
than that, you know what Imean? Like it, they could have
ended it a whole lot worse thanwhat they ended it. Boy that the
end did not probably give it maybea five just because it could have went

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a whole lot worse movie wise,I give it a solid nine. It
was a phenomenal film, you know, Like like you said, the endn't
really dunked it for me that butyou right now, it's been a lot
of cliffhangers with stuff, So Ireally felt that was a personal shot.

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And for it to be a twohour and nineteen minute long movie, I
feel like there's no reason for itto have been cut the way it was
cut, you know what I'm saying. And for that matter, with the
twenty eighteen way up until now,you would think that the movie would at

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least be if it was going tobe a three party, it would at
least be a complete portion. AndI know a lot of people people are
saying, oh, it wasn't choppedin half. This movie was chopped in
half. Yeah, you and youcan definitely tell it was chopped in half.
Man, it was chopped in half. And you know, it's a
lot of people that saved this andsay that. But me personally, I'm

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sure that this movie is supposed togo a different way than what it went.
And I appreciate the movie for whatit is, like I said,
a phenomenal movie, but yeah,not the way that they went about it.
It's just it's it's hard to saythat parts of the film could have

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been chopped back. You know,it felt pretty flush with every part,
but it does feel like parts couldhave been chopped back, you know.
Yeah, yeah, you know,like definitely, like towards the beginning,
Yeah, it felt like a hope, like matter of fact, before you
went to see the movie, Idefinitely told you like those certain parts that

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really wasn't Yeah, I saw that, but it followed the flow of the
first movie from him doing that,And when you're watching it, you understand
why they're telling you all this.They kind of recapping you in the beginning,
which they really didn't have to do, you know, yeah, because
I'm pretty sure, like the moviewas so anticipated, Yeah, I'm more
uncertain. Almost everybody who went togo see this movie watched the first one

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before they went to see this one. And when you even when you're looking
at it, Spider Gwinn's little recapping, they explain what happened, you know,
what's going on with her. Atthe time, it felt like that
whole piece was just a lot longerexposition than what it needed to be,
Like it could have been short.They could have got straight to the point,

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you know, explained the woes ofher life and got on. Honestly,
I really didn't even need to dothat. It felt like they were
reintroducing characters we had just spent somuch time with another movie. But when
I think about it, I'm like, well, the movie came out into
in the eighteen I'm pretty sure theyfelt like they had to do that.
I mean, but I mean,I don't know why they felt like they

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need to do that, unless itwas somebody that was just new to the
movie. It's like, hey,it's a Spider Man movie, let me
go watch this. But for everybodyelse, man, it's like the movie
it hits you home so so well, just because how good the movie was.
They really didn't have to do it, because it's not like it was
a forgettable move movie. No,No, not at all, not at

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all. And you know, andwe're talking about the cross was it across
the Spider across the Spider Verse intothe Spider Verse, the first into the
Spider Verse into the Spider Verse wasso good to the point that it's being
compared to live action. But youknow what, and uh, as far
as Marvel, I know that theydo a lot of and they got it

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from the Iron Man movies where theydid a lot of on spot acting and
and kind of kind of winging it, so to say, did you can
tell that with this movie. Withthe Spider Man movie, it was well
structured from beginning to end. Itdidn't deviate from the plan. It wasn't

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too many rewrite and if it was, they made short structured properly. You
know, they weren't going in andand like oh, on the drop of
whim, this line was put inbecause it sounded good, or we want
this part to be do this now, we reshoot And you know, Marvel
is known for doing reshoots up untilthe very last minute that they possibly can.

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And it with animation, you know, you really can't do that.
Everything's got to be storyboarded and handledin a particular way, so there's really
no margin for every error, youknow. So with that, I can
see why people are comparing it tothat on that level, because the story
is just you could tell us it'sso much more flushed out than anything we

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don't got recently in the mcuh youknow. But I mean, at the
same time, it maybe it's moreflushed out because this right here is kind
of like Sony's Baby. Yeah,and it I mean it spect technics because
it's not a Disney movie, no, no, it's an association with Marvel.
Yeah, yeah, so that mightbe why it seems a little bit

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more flushed out, which is whymost of the Marvel things that Sony do
don't seem as flushed out. Becauldthey don't make their films that long.
And you know, that's why Iwouldn't give Sony full credit for flushing the
story out like this. It's somebodyon the storyboard and is doing their job
and they and they're doing a damngood job of it. You know,

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they had you could tell there wasa whole plan. I can't say that
the plan was supposed to be likethis, for the sequel to be chopped
in half like that, I can'tsay that that was the plan. But
either he knew that he could makemore money, he or she whoever's the

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I'm not entirely sure, but theyeither figured, Okay, if I if
I chop it right here, Ican make a whole lot more money and
stretch this thing out, because it'sjust that good of a story. And
I'd be lying if I said I'mnot going. If I'm not going to
see the third I am. I'llbe there in front and center. Yeah,
So my question is, how doyou feel about the pacing of this

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movie? Like I said, theIt was just it was and I don't
want to call them dry spots becausethey wasn't. It wasn't dry spots,
but it was. It was justa lot of exposition dump, you know
that you didn't need. Like youget into a certain universe and they're explaining

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each universe as they're going to them, you know, or to a certain
extent, and they're explaining things,you know, and instead of just going
straight through it, you know,straight to the point, you know,
it felt like they were kind ofjumping around to get to the main.
So it paste out pretty well,but it had things that kind of stretched
it out and deviates it from hereto there. You find yourself deviated from

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the main storyline a few times.Nothing too major to be a distraction,
but it pace wise, it's Iwould give it a B. It's it's
it does kind of move awkwardly paceto me, anyway, got you So,
I don't know, man, Ithink pace wise, it started off

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kind of slow. Yeah, ina sense, it's like they tried to
speed it up, but ultimately itstarted off kind of slow. But I'm
not mad at the stuff that youget between yeah, leading up to like
the action and everything that this movieis actually about. So I don't know,
man, the pacing is probably,yeah, probably what you say here,

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probably about a B or just abovea B, you know, not
necessarily right there, maybe a Bplus, which is why it's like,
I can't really call it dry spots, you know, because when you look
at it, you know, you'relike, Okay, I understand why they
put it right here. Yeah,but it's too much. It's too much

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of that right there, you know, in certain spots. And then there's
the dramatic moments that get stretched out, you know, like the reveal at
the end. You know, I'mnot gonna say what the reveal is,
but they kind of already hint atit, and you if you're paying attention,
you already know what's what's literally aboutto happen, and he's so shot,
and then they stretch it out tothis big reveal, you know,

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and that part that happens it isa reveal. But you know, it's
crazy when you look at these videosafter everyone's seen this movie, yeah,
and you look at the reveals andthe the stuff that people go back and
see from that first movie. Yeah, they revealed it in the first movie,
and it's like stuff like that.If you're paying attention, you kind

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of see the reveal coming. Sothe fact that they're doing these loan drawing
out you know, reveals on topof what you already should know if you
really pay attention to the movie,it just kind of feels unnecessary. You
know. It's like going to seeJason movie and you can see him in

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the woods, and then they dothis big reveal for the people that's in
the woods with them, like,oh, we didn't know you were right
there, but we knew we saw, But the reveal just got stretched out
so much as longer than what itneeded to be. And like I said,
I get everything they were trying todo. The hypen anticipation is is

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well earned, you know, sowhen they're going into it, it's like,
Okay, I get you. Youknew this was gonna be a big
moment, but it just it didn'thit because I already kind of knew what
it was about to happen. Yeah, but it man overall though, Man,
it was a bomb movie. BestSpider Man movie I've watched in a

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while. So how does he compareto the first one? I mean,
y'all know you just said it wasthe best one you've seen in a while.
But how does it compare? Iwouldn't say in a while, because
that's Tom holler movie. That's comparable. I see why they say that it
is comparable. And the only reasonthat makes the only thing that makes it
comparable is the fact that they uselive action things, you know, and

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and stuff like that. So it'slike they they were they were reaching for
the stars. Yeah, they definitelyreach for the stars. And you know,
and with with Tom Holland's movie,it's like, um, the Spider
Man that they brought in, it'skind of a I want to say,

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a cash grab. You know,you got moments where like when what's his
name? From the Amazing Spider Manseries he comes in and and and through
the portal and it's this long,awkward silence, and you know, you
could tell those moments they set upfor you to go like this saying whoa.
You know, they don't have thosetype of moments in the Spider Man

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into across the Spider Spider Verse,you know, but I mean in the
sense they kind of do it.They kind of do they kind of like
they had a few, they hada few. But we'll get into all
that a little bit later, butno, you can you can feel it
more into that. The Tom Hollanmovie, it felt like when those moments

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happened, it just felt like,oh, we're supposed to be But but
you know what, the Tom hollermovie, I don't think it was more
so much more of that they didit. It was just the fact that
people was looking for but wasn't lookingfor because of rumors. Yeah, and
they kept getting put off like no, no, that's not it, that's
not it. So when it actuallyhappened, it's like, Okay, there

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we go. Well, you knowthat they'll never be able to take the
steam from that movie because it didsomething that's never been done first. And
I think that's that's um with TomHolland understand Yeah, because I've just seen
an article. I don't know howtrue it is anyway, So he was
saying like, the only way he'dcome back to do another movie or anything,

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they have to guarantee they talk thelast one. If they can't talk
the last one, they said,he's not coming back. But like I
said, I don't know if that'sactually what he said or not. I
mean, I gotta understand if hedid say that, I can understand why
he would say that, you know, especially after I mean, at this

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point there there's really no reason forhim to really say it. Besides,
you know, he wants to goon do other things. And then I
mentioned I think he already signed onfor like a few more appearances, not
no big movies. If I'm notmistaken, or he might, I'm not
sure. I have to go backand look, but you know it's he.
I'm pretty sure he signed on todo some more Spider Man roles.
I don't know, like he hewas really set on, like going to

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spend some time with some day andyeah, yeah, I mean you know
that food. It's time off SpiderMan as the baby of both Sony and
Marvel. Yeah, they gonna givehim as much as time as he me.
He but I mean, if ifhe's looking at it like we have
to talk the last movie in orderfor me to come back. If he's
looking at it and that that pointand say they can't talk the last movie,

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there's no point in doing it.They really threw you in this in
these movies, like through You inCivil War, Yeah, to build you
up all the way on this pedestal, and you just just do do dive
right off of it, you knowwhat I mean. It was like,
all right, fall that, I'mgonna go do something else, because I

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understand not want to be branded asSpider Man, especially after you probably talk
to the other two guys and theyprobably explain like everywhere they go Spider Man,
Spider by the Man, you knowwhat I mean, especially Toby.
But at this point it's too late. Yeah, it's too late. At
this point, you're already inside ofthat bracket. Yeah. Well, you
know, as far as the beingbetter, I agree, it's gotta definitely

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go above me, y'all. Becausewhen you look at the Spider Tom holland
Spider Man movies, they progressively gottenbigger. You know, the first one
street level, and you know,it was it was definitely street level.
They had alien tech that they wassalvaging from. And then in the second
one we got a mysterio which couldhave been a street level, but they

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turned it into the first hint atthe multiversal you know, world and whatnot.
And then the third one is literallythe multiverse, and then you got
this Spider Man across the Spider Versemovie, you know, and they just
went into so much more depth.I think I would. I think I

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would be a little disappointed if theydidn't go a little bit deeper into especially
this this well, but that's theneed now. They don't technically have to
go too much deeper in it.They do have to make the next movie
better. Yeah, and out ofevery villain that I've seen, the one

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villain that I actually wanted, yeah, they're actually doing in a video game,
oh Craving. Oh you know he'sstill getting a movie though, ain't
it. H Yeah, exactly,like like they don't use them. Yeah,
like you have all these great villainsthat they can use Madam Webb event
like they can put her in amovie and they can literally do the Spider

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Awards. But then not thinking thatwas one of the movies they're going to
be coming out playing on doing likea what's the name movie, a Madam
Webb movie. First, I don'tknow how that's gonna play into the whole
Spider universe thing that they building,because Marvel and Sony are building this Spider
Man universe, whether people see itor not outside of Marvel, you know,

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and I feel like they, likeMarvel really wants that, Yeah,
because I think they do too.Look, how many villains Spider Man actually
has, yeah, you know whatI mean, and Kingpin being one of
them as well. So and whenyou look at it, it would benefit
Sony to have Marvel in that cornerwith these Spider Man movies, if not

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for anything for the budget, youknow, yeah, most definitely, you
know, so I can I coulddefinitely see Disney wanting them to continue do
it, which is probably why Inever stopped. You know, when you
look at all those movies, theytried to connect they whether it was successful
or not, of a whole anotherand you really see that they really tried

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to connect it. After Morvious,yeah, yeah, and how they that
it was kind of dry, butthey tried it, trying to make me
villains and I mean, we're notvillains of villains, heroes of villains.
And then they make villains that arethe exact same as the person that we
kind of root before. So itwas like two vampires. I could do

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exactly the same thing. I thought, at least in Morbous he would be
fighting and naturally occurred vampire me personally. With Morvious, I don't know,
I didn't have an issue with themovie. Yeah, I just feel like
the movie would have made more sensehad it was a closer due date to

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like Morvious come out and then theBlade movie come out not too long behind
it, and then from there youplaying a movie where you know, crossover
exactly, or the Morvious movie comesout and then Blade movie and Morvius makes
an appearance or in the Blade movieor somewhere somewhere they mentioned his name or

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something like that, you know whatI mean. I just I thought the
character was kind of mishandled in Morbous, you know, not to spear off
into a different movie, you knowwhat I'm saying. But they they should
have picked somebody else. They probablyyou know, it's it's just I don't
know, they kind of spearheaded themovie in the direction I wasn't expecting it

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to go. You know, hewas the living vampire, and it felt
like when they did the same thingthe Old Boy, it was like both
of them was kind of the livingvampire and it was it was weird.
So it definitely was like it.I don't know, man, it just
seemed like they threw that out therebecause they know people are excited, and

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they know if people see more ofBeers, you know, Blade is not
too far behind you know, andwhich is why I like stuff like those,
you know, like Blades and morebest, those could tie in the
Spider Man so easily, and theynever do it. If they wanted to
do like these slow introductions of charactersinto the stories without making full fledged movies,

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these would be the times to doit, you know, these these
storylines and stuff like that, whichwas another thing that the Spider Man across
the Spider Verse handle well. Theyb story, you know, with Gwen
and stuff like that, which almostfelt like it was the main story,
and like like Miles was kind ofthe b story at least for a portion

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of the movie anyway, more thanwhat needed to be then what needed to
be, And I think that's wherea lot of the time went to.
A matter of fact, here wego, so, as you already know,
this is a portion where we giveyou a little time to leave because
we're going to the spoiler section ofthis, so we give you some time.

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All right, now we're beat becauseit don't take long hits, you
know, swipe up or whatever youneed to do. Now ask for the
Gwen portion of it, right,oh man. At the beginning where they
show our full recap of the lastmovie. We don't know why I needed
to be that because they definitely didn'tdo They definitely didn't do too much chopping

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up. You know. It's almostlike you got a little miniature movie here
at the beginning, and you knowwhat's crazy before you even get too deep
into that. They when they didMiles's recap, his was like fast,
like a montage, you know whatI'm saying. They did a full whole
scene out for I didn't understand whythey had to do it like that.
So with hers, like they rippedlike the full recap for them last movie.

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It was scratched out longer than itneeded to be. They could have
shortened hers. Hers could have flewby. Really, they could have chopped
hers up and let it fly becauseall the little moments with her dad and
everything, you could have flew bythose moments. You didn't need it extended
scene for that to understand, like, Okay, she's going through issues with
a pops Yea, we established thatSpider Man's story. I mean we established

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that last movie apparently because Miles alreadywas here. That's literally the Spider Man's
story. They always have issues,you know, with their family. See
now, Ultimately, for this particularmovie, I personally didn't see the purpose
behind most of it. I enjoyedthe movie. Yes, I did not

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see the purpose of his dad havingto die if his uncle already died,
you know. I actually I thinkthat's the point that they getting at because
when Gwen goes back and tells herfather who she or would confronts him after
she didn't told him movie would towho she was, you realize that he

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doesn't quit the force, and Idon't think that normally happened. But I
mean, the only reason he quitthe force is because he wasn't gonna take
her to justice exactly. But itseemed like he was at the beginning at
the beginning year. But I thinkthat was just because he was in the
moment. Yeah. Now when herealized, yeah, she left and he
saw her lid, which and Ithink that indeed yes, and he's like,

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oh wow, I was really aboutto end. It snapped him and
he clicked back into it right now, this right here already. Lets you
know, the rest of the thirdmovie was just pointless because Gwen could have
easily went back to uh, thisis a whole twenty ninety nine. It
was like, look, my Dadquit the Force and nothing happened. Yeah,

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because the event, whatever special eventchanged, matter of fact, just
from that alone, just from Milesbeing bit alone from a Spider that was
from a whole different Earth Earth fortythree or forty Earth forty two, and
nothing happened, Nothing happened. It'sjust his particular character ended up being a

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problem instead. And from that,it's like, Okay, nothing happened because
that event didn't happen. Nothing happenedbecause this event didn't happen to clearly showed
that the events can be changed.Yeah, and I and me personally,
I feel like whatever swallowed up thoseparticular Earths was their fault. Twenty ninety

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nine, it was his fault.And then the villain inside of this movie,
Yeah, whatever happened to that oneEarth, don't know which number it
is that was him, Okay thatI don't think that had nothing to do
with them doing these events out oforder or whatever not. I don't think
it mattered, because who's to say, Hey, Miles didn't save them one

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if the other Spider Man save themand said, you know the way,
I'm I'm taking these cannon events asthey called it in the movie, and
then before you get to there whenwhen he like his big event, it's
his girlfriend's father passing away. Howdoes that affect him? The guy didn't

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even like him. It's the leastcommissioner thing. But that was that was
her dad, that wasn't his.No, no, But the I think
they were trying to do it becauseI know there's an old comic book that
literally happened with that. But Ithink they were trying to make it a
point that this repetitively happens not toevery Spider Man, because then you got

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some Spider Man who lose Uncle Benand yes, and it don't make sense.
Yeah, it's like that. It'slike is reaching further than in East
two. So so what I likeI said when I'm I'm taking out of
these cannon events is the Spider peoplenever do anything differently, and the one
time that it was done differently isshowed that the cannon events can be changed.

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Well, I wouldn't they get likeprogressed too far along on that particular
set of events, like the Dudewhere they showed a universe collapsing and stuff
after he saved old Buddy, Likeyou say, yeah, you know,
I think that maybe it went toofar. He probably should have did with
did and just reveal how its identity, because it seemed like that was a

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fix all. And that's the onlything I could put in common falls they
don't never tell I don't know whythey're still doing this whole balance and act
between the secret identity and you know, I think the only Spider Man that
actually worked for is the live action. Yeah, the cartoons don't really matter.
And then if you look at themovie, his mom find out perfectly

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fine, fine with it, Yeah, you know it just be safe and
don't get killed and all that extraand all that, you know what I
mean. But definitely shouldn't have listenedto Gwin at all, Like, yeah,
who actually, when you look atthis, a lot of this movie
is kind of her fault. Allof the movies. She ain't shit all

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right. Then she got a wholenew Spider boyfriend. Man, Yeah,
I would you call her that?Everything the streets, she just wanted to
be warm at night, man,She had nowhere else to go. Sheol
ain't got she got a fixation forspite of people in that particular Spider Man.
Yeah, I don't know why.I'm gonna say as soon as I

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saw him immediately in my head,Jimmie Hendrix, I can see that.
I can see that. You know. I actually found out the Spider Punk
got a lot of little history,you know that they have been expanding on
his lord and stuff. I ain'tknow his character. The that that character
Obie is in another universe or howeverthey do it is actually the problem.

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Yeah, really yeah, yeah,they tripped me out. So I was
like, Okay, this this dudeis it's kind of already been weaved into
the universe before, so they reallycould dive back into that. That was
probably my standout character from the movie. Dude was already on one. He
knew what he was like, don'tjoin. I'm telling you you're not gonna
but I mean, I don't.I don't think that That's why he was

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more of seeing it, because youknow, everybody around them besides Miles already
knew what the deal was. Yeah, and he already saw the type of
person Miles was, and he's probablybeen hearing it from Gwen too, So
it was more like, look,man, you're a good dude. Don't
even worry about trying to join.Don't worry about this bracelet because you don't

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want to be. I you know, you don't want to be a part
of it. This right here isnothing but bad for you. And she
ain't shit and and I, yeah, yeah, you're right about that.
And I think he was literally alreadyplaying on like I don't want to say,
blowing that bench up, but hewas about he was about to do
something because he was still in parts. Dude was putting them back, but

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yeah, he was still parts tobuild that that travel watch that they used
to hot between universes and whatnot.Yeah, and I didn't realize what he
was doing. And until he leftit for old girl, that was that
was a nice drawback. I likedthat. But then again, I don't
know if he might have just wasstealing because the one that the wash she

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had looked like it was part ofhis soup. No, but he uh,
but you know, everybody's was prettymuch the same. His was the
one he left. It was sounique. I felt like it was those
pieces that he kept grabbing. Ican't prove that, so you might you
could be right, that could,but the one he had already had but
because he took it off when hegot he went through the portal, he

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took it off and threw it backwhen he went through the portal after everybody
had lost. They cool on him, But dude, he was a standout
character for me. He was astandout Spider Man. I didn't expect to
be a fan of the Spider Punk, nor did I know the Spider Punk
was black. But dreds no lessthat that caught me off guard. Jimmy

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Hendrick, Jimmy Hendrix, I couldsee that. I could definitely see that.
But you know, like the Ithought I would, I would like
the twenty nine care for him.He was a yeah, yeah, man
that that guy man, not evena little bit, had no remorse for
that guy man. And then it'sto the point to where when Spider Man

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Too comes out, I'm definitely notwearing that at the costable at all.
It's like, man, you lost, you lost. They took the twenty
ninety nine shoot out of the game, I wouldn't be man. Yeah,
And the vampire thing kind of threwme. I didn't know that was a
big part of his character now,that much, I didn't know. I

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didn't know. They actually had togo back and find out. They said
he dude put venom and people inall kind of crazy that he could bite
you, and I, oh,man, that's that's true. Yeah,
yeah, but I don't know,man, that I don't know. Man,
it's kind of hard hard. Whattype of vampire is he is the
question because he was definitely out thedaylight. Yeah, I don't think he

(30:59):
a vampire, just he just gotthings. He just but but you know
he's taking he's injecting himself with somethingconcealed because I know, I just went
back on the lore, like hegot infected with something and he was trying
to cure himself and they used thespider DNA in the process of that,
which is how he got the fangsand the claws and stuff like that.

(31:22):
And I don't know if if he'slike on some blade type deal where he
still got to take something to keepthis keep it at bathe Yeah, but
I knew it was something similar likethat, But I'm probably butchering the story
up a little bit, because,like I said, I just went back
and kind of did some research onthat because that tripped me out. I
didn't know that because I didn't understandthe fame thing. It was like he
a vampire and I was like,then, you know, one of those

(31:45):
cocky heads to the side moments,like he definitely was a beast. Oh
yeah, yeah, no, hewas a savage, savage whatever whatever level
he was at. Yeah, myhouse was just like one ahead. And
that's crazy because like you've been doingas longer than me. Yeah, you
don't want no smoke at all.I'm the best. I'm the best.
Let's cool, but um oh man, what what? The one Spider Man

(32:12):
that really caught my attention was thechick that was doing a VR game.
Oh the Spider Byte the virtual Yeah, yeah, that was that was real
cool. So apparently she is ain a universe where everything is virtual reality.
So when she she goes and logsonto her VR, she's basically Spider

(32:32):
the Spider Girl at that universe onVR. That that's the tripa stain in
me. I didn't think that theygot real creative. I'm not even gonna
lie. They put spider people thatI ain't think they would put in there.
They used the old nineties one fromthe Spider Spider Man Unlimited. They
used the old nineties cartoon and SpiderMan. They use uh Superior Spider Man.

(32:57):
They used the bulletproof, the electricproof Spider Man and the Insomnia Games
Spider Man. But a matter offact, speaking of that, the game
Spider Man, did you happen tocatch um who was his roommate or whatever?
The Spider Man two games, theone that's supposed to be coming out,
the Skinny Ned. Yeah, thatthat they had the physically fitting ned

(33:20):
on this one. Yeah, Ipeeped that out. Actually, I peeped
a lot of stuff they had.They were putting a little a little Easter
eggs all throughout and stuff, likethey had a news article with um.
Yeah yeah yeah. But a matterof fact, one of my favorite Easter
eggs, it's not even really anEaster egg really. I think that Prowler

(33:45):
thing with the live action Prowler.Oh yeah, you talk about try to
gain Yeah yeah, that tripped meout because I didn't think they would ever
go back and and I mean butthey teased it. They did, which
is why I didn't think they weregonna go back to it. Now,
I think like who, like likeyou said, whoever was on this storyboard

(34:08):
man. They paid attention to everylittle d to everything. They went back
to other Spider Man movies and TVshowed like Japanese and stuff that we don't
watch like they even threw the wholeyouth to the Spider Man point each other,
and you know, I hope theydon't do the joke again. That

(34:28):
was probably like the last time Ican really take the But you know,
I saw it coming. I sawit coming, and you know what,
it was cool. I was like, all right, I liked that one.
I see what they did. Therewas a universal one. But I
do hope that was the last onebecause they did it in uh, the
Spider Man no Way Home. Theydid it, and ump it was the

(34:51):
other one they did it in becauseI know it was uh, it wasn't
just a no Way Home. Itmight have been. I could have worn
they did it one other time.I don't think so, don't think so.
I think that was it. Youmight have just kept seeing the memes
memes and maybe that's what it was. You know, the memes is definitely

(35:12):
drying it out. But yeah,I'm burnt on it. But it was.
It was funny. It was funny. I liked it though. Yeah.
They they were immersive though. Whowhoever was behind the storyboard man,
they paid so close attention and didyou see um they were saying that that
scene where he's being chased through theby all the Spider Men. They said

(35:34):
that scene took four years to do. I don't know why, But then
again, I'm not an animator,so that that scene that probably yeah,
yeah, at that thing, itwas pretty pretty detailed. And I'm pretty
sure they don't have to They won'thave to do that again in the next
one. Maybe they do, youdon't know, you know what. That's
why I can't agree with everybody onsaying that this movie was because there was

(35:58):
a few people that was like,oh no, it's not chopped in half.
That's it was mad. I thinkfor them to already know that it's
gonna be out next year, whatin the summer? I think it was
they say, thing, it's supposedto be marched. Man, it's like
nine months. Oh man comes outeven in four years, and that that
movie is is freaking done. There'sno way. There's no way it's gonna

(36:21):
because we waited from twenty eighteen upuntil now. There's no way. And
I feel like when they did thefirst one, this movie wasn't done.
They probably wasn't nowhere near done,you know, And then they went to
working on this movie for four years, four or five years and got so

(36:42):
much in it that they were like, man, I don't want to cut
all of this stuff out. Let'sjust keep it high it is and cut
the thing at the climax of it. They're gonna be mad, but they'll
come back. Yeah, because thatthat movie release March twenty ninth next year.
See what I'm saying. There's noway, like I said, not
even a full year, no waythat that movie ain't already done. Somebody

(37:05):
would leak it. Yeah, LikeI know, I'm not gonna say I'm
definitely gonna go pay for that one. I'm gonna pay for it. But
I would version too. I'm notgonna lie to I would. I would
definitely watch the League mad as hell. Yeah, man. But but most
definitely though, like I do feellike they cut it. Yeah, I

(37:27):
feel like they made it. Theymade the whole movie probably like four hours.
Yeah, And it was like,I don't know if everybody gonna sit
in the moot. I wouldn't havejust so you just so you know,
Sony Marvel, Yeah, I wouldhave sat through the movie. But you
know, and we talked about thatonce before, you know, that era
of movie that we're in and TVshow. Everything's extended. Now. Yeah,

(37:49):
TV shows literally with commercials used tobe like thirty minutes without commercials,
it was like twenty five solid.Now TV shows are literally like forty five
five minutes to an hour long hourand some change. Movies are going from
an hour long and two and threeand four hours, you know, like
that four hour movies beyond, likecertain movies like The Green Mile and you

(38:15):
know some movie, wasn't that alittle what it felt like? It was
that long? I think it waslike three hours? Man like high can
say that. Um, most definitelythe Snyder cut of Justice League hours.
Yeah, definitely other long movies Lordof the Rings, The Lord of the
Rings. But see, you know, stuff like that wasn't the norm.
You know, when and when ithappened. They always had success in run.

(38:38):
But I mean four hours in themovie theaters not normal. But they
could have did it. I wouldhave said, I promise you, I
would have went, you could havea matter of fact right there when you
cut the movie and you could haveput a little pause. I'd have got
some more popcorn and went back back. Let me re up for I'm saying.
Yeah, but you know, withthe movies and stuff, I would

(39:01):
sit. The only reason I wouldsit in the movie theater for four hours
it is because I know how expensivethe theater is and the experience alone.
If it's afore, I feel likethat's that's a total immersed thing. Like
Okay, I got my money's worth. This was this was reasonable. It's
turned into a whole thing. I'vebeen here for a minute watching this movie,

(39:22):
you know type deal, even thougheventually you know we're gonna get it
at home and we can be ableto do the same thing. And now
now that portion of it. Nowthis this this Spider Man movie across the
Spider and needs to be seeing intheaters. Yeah, I didn't meet personally.
When it comes out to digital,I wouldn't be buying it now.
I would not buy it until Ihave to complete set. And if I

(39:46):
buy this movie just to see anotherto be continue at the end, I'm
just get pissed off. All ondo it again? Know what I'm saying.
I'm not buying this because I'm notabout to sit in Washings movie.
Like, damn man, this moviewas pretty good and they had to see
that that to be continue. Everytime I watch it, I refused,
So that brings me a good question, man. So up until the to

(40:10):
be continued, Man, I knowyou because I know he was on the
edge to see how'd you feel aboutthe the reveal of him being problem in
the universe? That was That washow it was. It wasn't expected,
but it kind of was going backto the first Spider Man. It was

(40:32):
expected because you know, they showeda spider sense he was problem and then
it switched over to him with theSpider Man of Colors in the back.
Yeah, so it seemed like thatparticular Miles is going to end up being
problem. Yeah, yeah, whatit looked like. Yeah, and and
then what really gave it a waysbecause he was with his uncle, but

(40:52):
you also saw the prowler like hereand there while he was taking him wherever,
while he was talking whatever it was, you know what I mean,
they kind of showed a little glimpseof it. Yeah, and they and
they tried to throw you off withhis uncle putting like grabbing that, you
know. But the problem Miles,that looks dope. Yeah, it did

(41:13):
definitely did. Like the braids too, Yeah, that looked dope. You
know what, though, curious howhe would have been a Spider Man now
though, and how that Smiles wouldhave ended up as the problem if it
would have played out the way itwas supposed to. Now, I see,
I don't know, I don't know. I kind of think that he
probably would have ended up bad,Yeah, just because he wouldn't have had

(41:38):
a Peter. Yeah, he wouldn'thave had a Peter because that that particular
universe was miles universe. Yeah,and be Spider Man, Spider Spider A
Parker was it that was in hisuniverse? Matter of fact? Yeah,
well yeah, that particular Spider Manfrom the first movie that was his universe.

(41:59):
Yeah, because he was like themost perfect Spider Man that they showed
so far. He was the actualSpider like the one that you think that
you've seen all these years and didit's him and he just killed him off,
the Spider Man. He was likethat that. He's the Peter Parker
that you see in the game gameokay, okay, the one that's doing
damn thing. Yeah, so heyou know, he had that Peter for

(42:22):
that moment. They blamed Miles gettingbit by the Spider and why Peter died.
That sucked. You know, Peterdefinitely died because Miles didn't know what
the heck he was doing with theseSpider powers, and he got caught because
he was helping Miles escape because that'swhat he do. So it was fault
like they said it was, butit wasn't. It was, but it

(42:45):
wasn't like you're sitting here trying tostuff him in there, like, bro,
just grab him, leave, takethem safety. Come back, dude,
you got to do, you know. And honestly, when you look
at it, I think you right. It was something you said earlier.
Miles then already with hell a tragedy. Why he got to go through so
much tragedy, so much more tragedythan the other Spider Man said he had

(43:07):
lost his uncle. He lost SpiderMan, you know what I'm saying.
Now they're telling him his dad gottadie too. Yeah, that's crazy.
The first when you see the firstmovie, you immediately think like, okay,
his uncle was his uncle Ben,you know, which, which made
sense. It makes absolute sense.And then honestly, now that I'm thinking
about it, if it had playedout right, it would have basically been

(43:29):
a villain story. But with hisuncle dying, he probably would have if
he didn't get bit by that Spider. His uncle might have just died and
in the process of the whole thingwith Spider Man, and he probably just
took up the shee like I thinkthat um in the other universe. Yeah,
his dad probably would have became chiefafter the uncle died. Yeah,

(43:53):
but then again, we don't knowhow that actually would have turned out because
he wouldn't have had all the crazinessgoing around. That's true. That's true
because his uncle is directly involved.Yeah, but I mean the thing,
yeah, but I mean most ofit. It's like a lot of it

(44:14):
could have been avoided. Yeah,And seeing the way that the other universe
went that right there, just letsyou know it could have been avoided.
Yeah, because his uncle wouldn't havebeen there. No, No, definitely
wouldn't you know, because his uncleended up with No, his uncle got
killed because he found out who hewas, Yeah, and he was chasing
him and he made that decision,yeah and got to end up getting killed.

(44:37):
Yeah. Yeah. But see thedad, I don't know, he
don't I don't know him his way. That's why I say I feel like
he would have probably picked up theman, or it would have probably played
out just slightly different. I likethinking like he would have been fighting Spider
Man or something like that. Youknow, we would have died. Maybe.
You know what I think if hegot bit Yeah, he like,

(44:58):
okay, I got these spider powerswhatever, whatever, whatever, his dad
as a police chief. His daddied, he would have ended up playing
out like um, you know theregular old plane Jane Peter Parker, Peter
went for Ravene. She had stoppedhimself. Yeah, opposed from not having
powers. His dad died, andhe turned to his own uncle, yeah,
as a father figure. Yeah,because that kind of has high played

(45:22):
out in the other universe. Kindof turned his uncle as a father which
was weird to me. Not thatI didn't like the Miles Prowler. I
was like, man, I wonderwhat made him? Not why uncle?
I feel like his uncle was Prowlerand just gave it. But he gave
the torch the Miles maybe so,maybe so, maybe so because I was

(45:44):
at that part did throw me.I was like, oh, man,
I wonder why. And he didseem like he knew what he was doing
with the dumb thing because he wascold out of that. Miles is cold
blooded too. Yeah, he definitelysaid, but my dad's gonna die.
He s okay, yeah, yeah, but you gotta do it. Ain't
my daddy eats did already. Mangot the mural man Miles on there.

(46:06):
Oh he was weak. He wason that that punch of band like look
in my universe you did and hewas man panicking. He's sitting there putting
the glove on. Yeah, yeah, man, and whacked. I thought
he hit him in the face.I was like, nah, I know
he was gonna hear him like,I mean, you know, but it
was like, but I mean,like, even if that is Miles from

(46:29):
a different universe, that's still youknow, yeah, that's real. That's
real. Yeah, And I cannasay, you know, he wasn't gonna
do but at the angle of theday, yeah, it did look like
he got domn not stuffing out.Yeah. I don't even know how that
thing was still hanging up afterwards.But neither here nor there that. But
yeah, so him going into thatuniverse, the I saw on the screen

(46:53):
and said what universe he was goinginto? So I wasn't really surprised to
see him in the universe that Spidercame from. Yeah, because he scanned.
When it scanned him, it gotDNA Spider. Yeah, which in
you know, he should have beenpaying attention, like, okay, you
really from this universe? Yeah,yeah, fact, And honestly, I

(47:14):
think that's how the machine worked.I don't think it was taking their DNA
from the universe or to know wherethat. I think it was just analyzing
Spider's DNA. Yeah. Now,had he did it the right way though,
that's real. Yeah, that wouldhave been real slick right. But
then, um, the the CyberSpider Man. She let them go.
Yet she definitely let them go becauseit seemed matter of fact. It seems

(47:37):
like at the end when they showedGwyn with the Spider Team that she ended
up. I thought I saw hertoo. She might be. She might
be. You know, she wentback and got the old team, and
I think she got a few otherpeople. Yeah, you know, so
I don't too much care about themotorcycle Spider Man though they she was asshole.
Oh you talking about the the pregnantone. Yeah, you know,

(47:59):
I didn't care was pregnant. Butyou know, she's supposed to be like
the original Spider Woman or something likethat. They could have kept it was
crazy. They could have kept herlike she oh Man, like the Indian
Spider dude though. He was cool. Yeah, yeah, he was cocky
as well. He said, Ijust wake up like that, you know,
I'll fly my hair every y'all point, you know, you know he

(48:22):
was. He was cocky as afool. That that dude. That was
funny. I did like I thinkhe was on the lineup when she went
back and built the team. Yeah, yeah, you know him, Obie
the spider Pump you know, ofcourse, the original group from the first
one. Um, honestly, Ireally don't see what her her goal was.

(48:44):
It felt like she took a longtime to get to him. She
I don't I don't know, man, it really didn't. She really didn't
have no motive besides taking orders.And you know, once they kicked her
out and she she's she's the definitionof a messed up friend, you know,
when you know something and yeah,yeah, yeah like and yeah,

(49:05):
I wouldn't even see missed a friend. He was really feeling her like that,
Yeah he was, and she wastoo. But she kept him on
back burnings and she knew why,and she didn't say nothing. And she
should have stayed away. She reallyshould have if, especially if she knew
she was gonna be his cutthroat aboutit as she was gonna be she had
to change her heart at the end. Yeah, but through the whole process,

(49:30):
it was like because I mean ifif his dad becoming chief, yeah,
automatically was like, okay, you'regonna die. Yeah, Like if
she stayed away, it was gonnaplay out anyway anyways, that which is
probably why they told her to stayaway from him. Yeah, but I
don't know, like, hold on, how did how didn't spot started traffic?

(49:53):
He figured out what power does?Yeah? Yeah, he when he
lost all his spots and he wentinto the inside out of his holes and
he went to that that little ramon the inside of it, and he
saw he can go to Yeah,that's how he figured that out. And
so he was just traveling to theuniverses with the little kaleidoscope thing and getting

(50:13):
strong on each one in him.Just how how are you just that upset
that? Yeah? Like they ain'teven serious, bro. I think they
were just trying to level up acharacter they knew they weren't gonna do nothing
with man. Well, I wouldn'tsay he was a joke in the comic

(50:34):
book too, Like the way Mylesreacted to him is the way the first
Spider Man reacted to him like,bro, you you're fucking stupid. Yeah
yeah, but I mean, asyou can see, he's a force to
be reckoned with. Yeah, infacts like done done the right way.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,definitely multiversal. Yeah, you know,

(50:55):
but I think I've been waiting fora good story like this. I and
seen the Spider Verse thing done likethis animation wise, since um that old
Spider Man, the animated series.That's probably like last time I really saw
it done like this. And yeah, but you know that particularly Spider Man,

(51:17):
that was my joint when I wasyounger. I still watch it,
but with that one man, it'slike they they they introduced Madam well,
you know, they had them dothose the Spider Awards and he teams up
with X Men here and there andeverything like all that is possible. It's
just they refused to do it.Like man, I've heard that they were

(51:39):
a few they're like I've heard thatMarvel or Disney or whatever they're not even
introducing next. Yeah. I've heardsome similar reports too, And I don't
even want to get into that becauseit's gonna hurt the feelings it already did.
But you know. I so it'sa big Mester guy. But you

(52:00):
know, I thought they would dothat when they were going into across the
Spider Verse, seeing twenty ninety ninein charge of the multiversial stuff, when
they could have used Madam Webb,that felt right to me, But they
didn't do it like that. So, seeing the way that these movies are

(52:22):
lining up to go and they're doingMiles the same way they do every other
Spider Man. It's only three movies, how do you feel about his his
story ending the way that it's turningout the end, Well, first of
all, it's refreshing. You know, I didn't. I didn't think they

(52:43):
were gonna do it like this.I thought it was gonna be, you
know, just like the comic bookwas he popped up in the universe despite
of the first Spider Man was andyou know, a player. I like
to make him an anomaly like theydid. I thought that was creative.
Watching this play out, it's it'sbeen a cold journey man. It's I

(53:06):
didn't. I didn't think you couldtake a Spider Man stay. You know,
mind you we got we already gotanother Spider Man series out people won't
you know, the other Spider Manmovies to get done and stuff like that.
So it seems like we're getting multipleSpider Man at once, and it's
still refreshing to watch, you knowwhat. I just thought about what And

(53:28):
I don't know if I'm tripping,I might be tripping. When he went
to the wrong universe, Why wasn'the glitching out? I think he did
once, if I'm not mistaken.I think he did glitch out once when
when he was right before he wasgetting to the apartment, when he was
on the staircase. I don't thinkso, man, did he not when

(53:51):
he went to that he was swingingand sneaking, and yeah, I think
go back and watch that part.Maybe he didn't. I don't remember him
glitching out. And then, youknow, I don't know. Maybe is
he not glitching out because of theSpider's DNA it's from the universe. Maybe
I don't know. I have togo back and verified out one that as

(54:12):
a trippy one if that's the case. Yeah, and then if he if
he's supposed to glitch you out,wouldn't he be able to glitch you out
of being tied up? Touch andhe was knocked out for a minute,
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, becausehe don't have that rough that that band
on him anymore, because that's howhe initially got away. Yeah, because
the old but they snatched that offwhen they were doing the little chase scene.

(54:37):
Yeah yeah, which they kind ofmade all the Spider Man looked like
chumps during that chase scene. Whathe was getting off. Yeah, I
think Miles just that guy. He'sjust that guy. That's what happening.
You an anomaly when they say youain't supposed to be here, Like I
fight different than y'all because we're notthe same. You're not the same.
It's it's different. I'm not evenpost to be here. So you let

(55:00):
me know. He had an accident, you catch up? Oh man,
the problem trying to be a universalaccident, baby. Yeah. That that
whole joint was crazy, man.I really thought they would have fared better
if they had Adam Webb explaining it. Yeah. But but then, um,

(55:22):
and then they really can't even induceher because they said this is it.
But with him, Why did GwynnPortals still open that long? I
don't know. I'm not about thatfor a many my damn self, I
don't know. I don't know.For the plot I guess man like,
and then it's like, yeah,shouldn't she be able to sense that he

(55:45):
was there? I was, Ithought, I mean, he got scanned
and everything, even though you're matterof fact, he's the only one with
those powers. Yeah, yeah,and the only one that shouldn't have been
able to sense him as a SpiderMan twenty ninety nine because he don't got
no spider sense from my understanding,matter of fact, maybe that's why they

(56:07):
couldn't sense. And you know,they only get a sense when it's like
danger. He probably just yeah,but I mean he was scanned, even
though even though he's invisible, hestill got scanned. Yeah, yeah,
because that thing was scanning all up. Yeah. Yeah, that's right,
that's right. Touche touchet, Likeeven if you are visible, like you're
you got scanned. Bro. Idon't know. I don't want to come

(56:30):
up with the mumbo jumbo science andsay it was his electro magnetic field because
its powers. It then it's funnythat, um was it. Spider Punk
had to teach him how to Yeah, he said to use your up like
why would you know? Yeah,yeah, I ain't see him do anything

(56:51):
like that. Yeah, but itwas helpful. Yeah it was. It
was damn man using your fingertip.Well, he blew that thing smooth up.
He did that a couple of times. Yeah, hu man, And
I'm not even gonna lie. Sinceplaying the you know, the Spider Man
Miles Moralities game, Yeah, whilehe was swinging and she was like,
already me see what you got.I thought he was gonna be God Day

(57:14):
Venom jumping in all type of crap, all kind of stuff. Yeah.
That see that scene there I feltwas unnecessary, you know what was unnecessary
because we could talk about it nowbecause we already had this portion, um
all the dud. So I'm soand so Spider Man, let me tell
you about my back Like your backstoryis the same as everybody else, is

(57:36):
the only one the only backstory that'sdifferent. Yeah, in twenty ninety nine,
because he went to another universe tooktheir life. Yeah that, but
you know what that literally, theones who got any multiversal experience usually is
the ones with the different backstory.Miles got a whole different Spider from a
different universe, and like you said, twenty ninety nine, he went and

(57:59):
basically hijack the whole universe. Yeah, you know, what I'm saying.
So those characters had very different stories. Yeah. See, but but see
when his characters like that, Okay, yeah, get the backstory. Yeah,
but literally everybody, like every NewSpider Man, you had to show
a backstory. Yeah, like thatis wasted time. It's wasted time to

(58:19):
make it seem like you had tocut it. Yeah, like it you
you wasted at least what five minutesmaybe ten something like that showing this crap.
Like you don't you're not even talkingabout the time you wasted with this
extended recap that you did. Yeah, the recap was unnecessary. You know,

(58:40):
helly, I didn't even need Miles'srecap. Honestly, I would have
preferred just seeing like oh and whenyou think about it, really wasn't even
his recap hers it, Yeah,it was. It was her recaps going
through his little notebook is only reasonI say it was his. Yeah,
like, you know, it justit. You don't need it. You
could literally looked at my eyes,oh got taller, which I did.

(59:02):
You could have looked at him andbe like, oh, he didn't figure
it out, you know, hespider Man it up, but you know
he like you know, at thevery beginning show the recap of the first
movie, and then went off thehull and then she did the I'm Gwen
Spider Man. It did that.That's like why we saw you in the
recap, follow a trend that theysaid first movie. That's how I opened
up with him. Yeah, whichis why I said that. You know,

(59:25):
it's it's following you know, theformula from the first movie. But
and I guess I can't be toomad because it wasn't broke. You know,
though I can understand you know thatit's not broke, don't fix it.
But it was unnecessary and you didn'thave to have it like the like
you said, the recap was unnecessary, the swinging montage where they was doing

(59:45):
I thought it was unnecessary. Ifif she just wanted to see him and
then did some shady crap behind thescenes, I'm like, okay, that's
and that's a quick scene. Yeah, you don't need to swing through the
whole city. Yeah, like likeand then disappeared on Man. Yeah,
yeah, you know you met hismom like everything, like Man got the

(01:00:05):
Man put on more months of ground, Like if youre just gonna bounce Man,
you could have you could have juststayed away. Yeah, that's facts,
and then you know, the wholehaving them the long conversation. They
did have a lot of long conversations. There was a lot of dead points

(01:00:25):
with that with him and her.Yeah, I didn't care for the water
tower scene with him and her,and I thought that was literally what the
whole them sitting upside down on thething was for a yeah, yeah,
and it was parts like that,you know. Yet the school scene in
the beginning where he was late.Actually appreciate that whole month. I appreciated

(01:00:50):
it, but it felt like itit kind of could have been cut cut
a little bit shorter. I mean, that seemed really wasn't that long.
It really wasn't like he came inboom by, boom by. Yeah,
oh I gotta go. I mean, it wasn't a bad sit. It
just didn't feel necessary to me becauseit's like we already knew he was having
trouble balance in his life. Heliterally said that right in the in the

(01:01:14):
beginning. I mean, really,the only thing that he's having trouble balancing
apparently is Spanish, which that that'sgot to be the most trifuling thing.
Man, How you got a Spanishmother? And you're struggling with Satis.
He's not struggling with Spanish. Heremember he missing he missing class five times

(01:01:35):
classes. So that's why everything elseis straight set for the Spanish because he
missed class. And then they havean issue with him going to off to
it was a New Jersey to goto school, to the best school that
and they're trying to just keep himthere, keep him there. But you
kind of understand the direction of itbecause he's supposed to be in New York
Spider Man or whatever, all right, you know, and and his Spanish

(01:01:58):
people and black people like, youknow, we big our family too often
times we don't like to see people, just our people, you know,
venture off too far, you know, And that seemed like it was.
I mean, it wasn't really thatfar, you know, it was it
wasn't, you know, And whichtripped me out because it was like,
you ain't grown. He ain't evengot no license. He was like,
man, mom, ain't got nolicense. She liked this New York.

(01:02:22):
We can walk where we need togo. Now. I thought that was
funny, but you know it was. You can see it's a coming of
age story. If if nothing else, you know that I mean, since
we're talking about Miles, how doyou feel about mister Moore saying he gonna
drop weight to audition. Uh,they'll keep the same voice, you know.

(01:02:47):
And there's a lot of people sayingthat he's too old. It's great.
I mean that wouldn't have been mytop pick for the Spider Man.
I mean, I'm Riles. Imean everybody like, oh, he's too
old. But I mean it isn'tlike like legit if he like if he

(01:03:07):
gets the haircut, take off facehere, everything, God looks young.
That was very I don't even thinkage to me anyway, Age ain't really
got nothing to do it. Yousee, we got people that as well
over in the thirties and forties pretendingto be characters that's in the twenties.
I mean, I mean Tom Hollerswasn't even the right and you feel me.
So it's he just looks. Hejust look you know, you know,

(01:03:29):
age wise, that's that's not anissue for me. Um. You
know he can act, he can, he can definitely act. Um,
but then you have never seen himin this type of road or you know,
when I think of himik More,I believe I said his name right,
I think stuff like the Wu Tangseries, and and you know,

(01:03:52):
it's it's kind of hard to picturehim in a spider suit, yeah,
because everything's like the Wu Tang series. He's dope, like what is it
to get down? Stuff like that. It's always kind of the same saying
so so it's kind of a hardpicture and them in that role. Even
if he did drop the weight,you know what I'm saying, I don't

(01:04:15):
know. Maybe, man, Ithink he can do it. I think
he can do it. He probablycould. You know. I'm skeptical,
but I he could do it.Man thing to too up there with that,
you know, But then again Ifelt like the dude for that.
They picking for static shot. Thatwasn't my first pick neither. I just

(01:04:39):
got to see it as it asit a folk I believe in, my
fellow Georgian. I don't know ifhe would stayed here long or what.
I believe in the man right,but I want to see a player I
gotta be also soon what and itmatches a lot of people say Miles Brown

(01:05:03):
from Blackish, Oh, I didn'tknow that was his name. I ain't
go figure I can see that thatthat makes sense. I mean it's a
lot of things that makes sense.At one point I thought here even the
hair match, he a little bitbrighter than what I thought he would be.
Like, I mean, at onepoint Jaden Smith would have worked out.

(01:05:24):
You know, that was my thingat one point. That's that's a
sad story. No, it's not, man, Them kids are fine.
Those kids are fine, man.Man, they're they're free. And not
even that I'm talking about movies hemade. I mean, have you seen
after any anywh have you seen KarateKid? No, for Karate Kid first

(01:05:48):
came out, I didn't have vessuewith what. I ain't care for it.
But then you know, I'm astickler for the old ones. I
like what them old white folks wasdoing. All right, you got me
there two shot too. But butyeah, it's Miles Brown, Yeah,
which I can actually see. Ican see that. I can see that,
I can see gonna be a goodfit. Now. My only thing

(01:06:09):
is, yeah, I don't knowhim from too much anything besides Black Blackish.
I don't think he's done anything outsideof Blackish. Yeah, and that
is what scares Yeah, I couldsee that, I can see that.
That's what scares me. Um,because you know, he's funnier than schmik
more though, is he Have youseen anything Shmid did funny? His roles

(01:06:32):
to me be more serious than anything. Yeah. And you know, and
even though Miles only got that onerole, he's not hilarious. Don't get
me wrong. He ain't like dieHard funny. His twin sister was funnier
than her the TV show. Well, I mean the way his his UM
persona is from what I've seen onBlackish, Yeah, that was beside it

(01:06:57):
in Blackish where they just tried toturn him to an idiot. Yeah,
but they were trying to do himlike his big brother. They tried to
turn into an idiot slash jock andwhatever. But that's not the point.
But yeah, like that's the onlything they get me because I don't.
I haven't really seen him in toomuch of anything besides Blackish, you know
what I mean. But I feellike it'll work, you know what I

(01:07:20):
mean. And I don't know hishis um, who his parents are,
or anything like that, if hehas that same background as um Miles Morales
or not. But he definitely looksapart. Yeah, I'm looking at it
now. He definitely looked a parthe reminds me of what's a dude name

(01:07:45):
that tea and to marry a littlebrother of from smart George? Was that
really his name? George? Oh? You know that check out. Yeah,
he reminds me of him. Butyou know, um, the advantage
that Tom Hollans had was he wasalready um, he already was able to

(01:08:06):
do them the flips and everything likethat. Yeah see yeah he you don't
really Yeah, it's like Tom Hallanshe was what did he he was?
Um? Tom did gymnastics and stuff, didn't he? Yeah? I believe
so. Yeah, so most ofthat stuff they needed him to do that
they probably wanted stunt people to do, he probably was doing on his own

(01:08:27):
and stuff, you know. Andwith that, if he's doing all those
stunts on his own, like,that's probably a reason why Tom feels the
way he feels, because I knowthat takes a toll on his body and
you have to do all that,remember your lines and all like yeah.
Man. So yeah, Now ifthey do get Miles Brown to um played

(01:08:48):
Miles Morales, who's going to beas his his stunt though? Yeah,
yeah, because I don't know howphysical he if he is athletic, I
mean you I mean, they trainyou up on all that stuff, and
it all depends on you. Everybodygot levels, though, it all depends

(01:09:10):
on who. Who's this movie.Who's gonna do this? Is it Sony
or Marvel in Disney. Yeah,but see it's it's like because if it's
Marvel in Disney's, he's gonna haveto go through intense training for all that.
If it's Sony Sony, don't.I don't know, man, I've
seen somebody shape heroes from Sony.I mean, Sony, you know they're

(01:09:33):
gonna piece stairs together just to getit out. But I agree with you
on the Marvel thing. They're definitelygonna work him out. Everybody got lemons,
you know, even with the proudof thing. I Danny Glover,
I feel like that looks so weirdseeing him do anything physical. Can you
imagine a fight scene with him?I feel like it'll be all right.

(01:09:56):
They probably would, but I justcan't can't actually picture it my like they
just I feel like it'll be allright now. I personally feel like the
man deserves a cameo in a liveaction it definitely, even if they do
kill his character off in the inthe first movie or whatever. He definitely
deserves or camera. Yeah, theyprobably will. I mean, they got

(01:10:20):
it out the way I mean technicallyspeak and they ate if Marvel and Deep
Marvel and Disney are the ones doingthe movie, they have to use him,
yeah, because they've already introduced himass Prowler with the uncle yeah it
was, and introduced him as theProwler now yeah. Yeah, so they

(01:10:42):
have to use him, which andI wouldn't be mad if they they use
him because he's been pushing for itfor quite some time. Yeah, and
I appreciate all the push he gave, yeah, because it definitely made some
noise in it. Help. Well, I tell you what, they ain't
gonna do that until they tightened upon their A storyboard and at Marvel because
they had gone through it. Rightnow, this whole writer strike and everything

(01:11:08):
Blade being pushed back, movies isjust movies and TV shows. It's just
not well. I mean at thispoint, I'm not too man at it.
They need trying to collect themselves andbe like the should have took a
break after the Avengers in game.Well, I mean not a huge break,

(01:11:29):
but I could have did. Theycould have did the break after um
thought the strange well, no,I can't even say that because I actually
break I actually cared for the Guardiansmovie. I love the Guardians movie.
That was good. Yeah, Ididn't care for the second one, but
I actually cared for the Guardians movie. The Black Panther. I can live

(01:11:49):
with the Black Panther man, youknow, I can live with it.
My kids can't live with it.But I'm in that small margin of people
who felt like they should have recastthe Challo. They did, and I
know they did, but I mean, at the at the moment you know

(01:12:12):
that they were planning, because itfelt like the story just got changed so
much that it wasn't even a BlackPanther film. I feel like, you
know, they recasting them, Yes, they recast I feel like a lot
of people feel the way they feltbecause they didn't recast them the way that
they wanted them to reconcast them,and the way that they recasting them was

(01:12:36):
just respectful for what Chadwick built.Yeah, and you know, I get
the you know, trying to payhomage to it, and I still feel
like there was other ways to doit without killing the character off in the
movie. Well, I mean,they even though they killed that particular to

(01:12:56):
challof you still have the next onewhere you can basically build. So they
basically given you hope, and Ihope when they realized like Storm, Yeah,
they gave you hope for Storm yeah. And I need them to introduce
these mutants. And that's really theonly reason I'm cool with the way they

(01:13:19):
they did that part of to Challa, Like but still on the on the
recast, I still think that wouldhave benefited a lot better. You know,
I didn't care for the way theythey did the thing because because the
way that they recast it. Yeah, say say all right, let me
ask you this, because you're you'remore knowledgeable on this than I am.

(01:13:41):
A whole lot more Storming to Challa, how long have they known each other?
But as far as just being aroundeach other things, I don't think
they knew each other until like lateron in years like adulthood, because she
was already in America with with themwhat's his name, Charles Xavier because he

(01:14:04):
grabbed her when she was a child. They was worshiping her like a god
and stuff like that, and youknow, Wakanda is a secret, and
so I don't I don't know ifthey knew each other that long, and
if they did, it was fora short period of time. I mean,
all right, so if they kneweach other, you know, for

(01:14:28):
extending period of time. Now thatthey have a younger to Challa, they
can do that quick scene. It'strue. I don't know. I just
I really wasn't on board with howthey did because I don't I don't necessarily
tie chat with Bowsmen down to justblack Panther, you know. No,

(01:14:53):
he's the Black Pather. But Idon't just tie him down to just the
black Pather, you know. Yeah, because he had all these high,
amazing movies and it felt like theywere so hung up on him. Yeah,
he stapled that black path the movie. If that was the case,
we should have just left that thatlegacy there, you know what I'm saying,

(01:15:14):
and not touch on it again.Clearly they already saying they're not gonna
do the X Man and stuff likethat. You know, So if we're
gonna let it die, we justlet it die, you know. But
I guess they had to do somethingthat was that was a cash cow,
and they everybody needed to follow up. Yeah, yeah, we all needed
to follow up, and in minusmy grievance is what it wasn't a horrible

(01:15:40):
movie. I just felt like itkind of deviated from what I expected a
Black Path and movie to be andwhat I thought a sequel to a Black
Pants the movie would be. Youknow, the suary thing. That was
cool. You know, it's accurateit, but she just didn't sell it
as a black parther for me.Oh that that first Black Panther movie was

(01:16:04):
so amazing, And you know what, that's not to take away from the
acting that they did in the secondone, because man, the Queen,
the Queen Mother. Oh man,the war she got for her role in
that was well deserved. Probably someof the best acting in that movie period.
But I mean, Angela bastard.But it's Angela Bastard all star,

(01:16:29):
Like, literally, how do youlose with her? I mean that whole
cast was it was all stars.They all stars. But you know,
I what what what really got alot of people me included. Yeah,
It's like, man, we satthrough a whole lot of that first movie.
You got Black Path at the beginningcut off, and then you had
him a little more at the end. Yeah, we've done this stage with

(01:16:53):
you. Are I need more ofthe Black Panther in the second movie,
like regardless if she was wearing thesuit, give for the power, Give
the Power, and we basically hadblack Panther the whole movie, but no,
we had to wait till the endof the movie to get black panther,
yeah, which was heard or noteven want the responsibility of the black

(01:17:16):
panther. And then that on thatnote too, it made me feel like
doing this one the first movie,I know that I could clearly tell that
they didn't expect Chadwick that because theywrote themselves into a corner for the second
one was burning the herb hurt.It hurt the movie. It heard the

(01:17:38):
second movie so bad because it's like, now I got to basically make a
whole synthetic heart shaped herb off ofsomething from up under the water that I
got, Yeah, that I gotoff this old ass bracelet, you know.
And it felt like they had wrotethemselves into a corner. They didn't
intend for it to go like that. They intended wanted to be passed to

(01:18:00):
his son exactly, you know,like now, I mean, yeah,
of course they didn't expect him topass away because nobody knew he was just
working his ass off and getting itdone. You know what, I mean,
he knew what this role meant toblack people, to young black kids,
you know what I mean, Andhe wanted to like do that with

(01:18:21):
with all that he had left inhim. And he showed that with every
role he took until he took hislast breath, for just that alone,
the roles that he played, theroles he chose, the iconic people that
he's played through all this time.You can't do nothing but respect him,

(01:18:43):
man, because he definitely hand pickedthose roles. Man. He left big
impressions, the big shoes to fill, which is why I understand why people
were skeptical about the recast. Butyou know, when I look at it,
when I when I tell my girlsto see it, you know,
I thought maybe because it was gonnabe a female black panther, they would

(01:19:03):
have been excited. It's like,that's not the black panther, And that's
the same that's the same reaction myboys get, you know. And and
my boys went to sleep, andand my kids didn't go to sleep.
They didn't pay too much attention becausethere wasn't no black panther really in it.
But you know, like when theyfinally revealed it, they was like,
oh, dad, that's not theBlack Panther. Who is that.

(01:19:26):
I'm like, yeah, that's theBlack Panther. It was like I thought
Black Panther was a boy, andyou know, I'm thinking like, okay,
the girl. You know, I'mlike, oh, they would have
looked they would have loved it,and they didn't enjoyed as much as I
thought. Maybe they would have enjoyedit more had Black Panther, like had

(01:19:46):
he actually been there. And thenthey introduced a female version of them,
you know, so they both wantus on the screen together. Yeah,
but you know how that goes.And you know, I'm at the same
time, you know, glad thatRyan Coogler, even though he did kill
him off, he didn't do asiege yeah face and yeah, yeah,

(01:20:10):
yeah, I would have beat thatwould have been worse, like like the
way that their son Chadwick off.Right, you can tell that was a
real, true, genuine tribute.Yeah, you know it and it really
I don't know if they put thatin there from editing, but it seems

(01:20:30):
like his face was actually on thewall wherever they were like, man,
that's that's beautiful, beautiful, that'sbeautiful, man. And for you to
work with a group of people andfor them to feel that way about you
from the little bit of time,that like you didn't know him your whole
life and they felt like that aboutyou. Man, that says a lot
about your character, it really does, you know, and everything the man

(01:20:53):
did. You know, everybody heldhim in high regard, especially with this
movie. You know, it torethe fans. You know, it messed
up the driver, the MCU whateverybody thought that the direction it was going
in. You know, I'm sureit messed the writers up and the other
actors. You know, they definitelytook an extended break. Yeah that happened,

(01:21:16):
Yeah, most definitely, which I'mpretty sure, like the movie kept
getting delayed, I'm pretty sure everybody. Oh man, it got rewrote and
delayed. I'm positive all of thathappened, you know, while they were
trying to figure out what to do, and you get to a point where
you realize these are just movies,you know what I'm saying, And we

(01:21:40):
do take very seriously clearly, Yeah, a whole lot. Yeah, some
people more than others. Yeah,where they sent for some reason and death
threats and all that is weird.But even though that happens, always take
it as you know, I can'treally say because I don't act or nothing
like that, but if a fangives you hate mail and death threats,

(01:22:04):
that means you played the hell yeahout of that part for them to make
for them to feel like that's actuallyhow you are, and they just hate
that character to their chord that much. Man, you you played the hell
out of that character. But definitelyhave to know the difference between fiction and
reality. Yeah, And you know, I just didn't want it to get

(01:22:26):
so hung up on the Chadwick Bosemanas as Black Panther because to me,
I just saw him as his man, as great actor that did so many
great roles. I couldn't just timedown to just Black Panther, which is
why I was okay with, like, you find the right actor, because
there are some some amazing black actorsout there that could have filled the role,
maybe not to the extent that hehad already established, you know,

(01:22:51):
but could have at least held ituntil it was passed off properly. Hell,
maybe they could have even killed thecharacter off in a way that it
would have looked like okay, becauseI didn't I didn't really buy the whole
disease the thing because he had to. Yeah that, and this the most
technologically advanced place on the planet inthe movie series. So it's like,

(01:23:16):
if you could cure all these diseases, why would he hold it to itself,
knowing that we got all this technologyto aid me and and heal me,
you know, Like it felt weird, you know, And and like
I said, I get that theywere trying to do it in a way
where Okay, we don't have tovisually show them dying, and we could
make an excuse for it without it, you know, and keep the story

(01:23:40):
flowing. But if they would haverecast him and then killed the person they
were recasting off, hell, theydon't even have to take him out to
suit, you know. Yeah,but it's just the fact that everybody knew.
Yeah, yeah, And I thinkthat probably would just hurt the man.
I think that this this second moviewas more as a whole a tribute

(01:24:00):
movie too. Yeah. Anyway,Oh, it definitely was a tribute movie.
It was so much so that theydidn't even put the Black Panther in
until the very year. But wehave reached that time, so yes,
Deuce, final thoughts, Final thoughts, um Spider Man Across the Spider Verse.

(01:24:24):
Like I said before, I giveit a solid nine um. Pacing
wise, Um had his ups anddowns. Uh give it, Ah,
I'm still on that B maybe aB minus. You know, it was
it was kind of to me,pacing wise, it's all over the place.
They very off ain't gonna go intoa tangent or other stuff that wasn't

(01:24:45):
necessarily necessary, but it was necessary. All it was. It was weird
spaces they took you through. Actionwise, they could have up the action
a tad bit. They could ifyou if you notice, it was a
It was a lot of explaining,you know. It was the action scenes

(01:25:09):
that they did have. As faras the visual, everything was beautiful.
You know, I can't even knockthe action scenes that we did get.
You know, everything was beautiful.It did feel like they had moments where
they were sitting and talking a lot, though, you know, like when
well, I feel like the mosttalking came from where his no, his

(01:25:30):
parents, Yeah, yeah, Imean could they had in school that they
had on top of the rule whieexactly twice And when he went back to
see his mom, and when hewas Spider Man sitting and having a conversation
with his dad, was in thesame thing with Gwen. Gwen was talking
to her dad. She had thatlong ass conversation with Miles when she came

(01:25:51):
back twice. Um uh, hehad that that long old conversation with both
Spider Man uh. Twenty ninety ninein spite of people. It just it
felt like a lot of talk,that long talk with with Obie. Yeah,
you know, it felt like alot of talking. Now I said
that, don't that doesn't not don'tlet that knock the action scenes at all

(01:26:15):
by any means, you know.Hell, going into each universe, everything
felt unique. It didn't feel likea copy and paste thing, you know
that a lot of animation does whenthey're trying to do like multiversal or varying
type of things. They'll copy andpay something and it'll be the exact same

(01:26:36):
thing, but then like a slightlydifferent color or yeah, or something like
that. But everything felt unique,So visually a plus, you know,
everything visually was an a plus forme. Um uh. Suspense Uh,
it definitely had its uh, itshigh moments. Parts I didn't think was

(01:26:59):
going to sarily happened. The highestmoment of course, being that cliffhanger ending.
Wise, that's probably the biggest strawback for me is that's that's gonna
be my my biggest drawback. IfI had to rank the whole movie as
a whole, they's still gonna getan S ranking for me, But as
I don't know how to fit theending into that to that ranking, you

(01:27:24):
know, because the moment I thinkabout the end and the thing start.
But but you know what, sofor this ending, because we can come
back and revisit this after the thirdmovie comes up, and if that third
movie is better than this movie,I'll accept that ending. Yeah, And

(01:27:45):
I'm sure they're gonna conclude it right. There's no way you could cut a
movie in half and not have aa dope story the follow up, especially
this fast. I know they gotthat story finished. There's no way.
Yeah, there's an Animation takes along time, you know, definitely,
and for that type of top notchof animation, it takes a long time.

(01:28:09):
Yeah. Now, I did seebefore we leave, I did see
a lot of people have issues withthe visuals in the sound really inside of
the theater. Yeah, and theyhad to send the new copy to theaters.
Yeah, I didn't hear about that. You know, maybe it's not
for everybody because you know, nowI think about it, Wifee, she

(01:28:30):
didn't really care for the Pastel universe. That didn't really Yeah, she didn't
really care. But you know Icould see what they were doing with it,
you know, they it was theywere visually showing the aesthetics of each
universe. You know, it's notnecessarily just animated, you know, it's
yeah, it's just everything has itsown look to it. You know,

(01:28:54):
we see it as animated because that'swhat we know, what those colors signify,
and the look of things and howit is. But I mean,
for the most part, most ofthem about ANIMI yeah, yeah, yeah,
so, but I can't I willsay it wasn't really no copy and
pay Spider Man. You know,pretty much every Spider Person that they had

(01:29:15):
and there was unique to their ownuniverse. They even had that old Spider
Man that only goes this way andnow that jump was funny because they had
leg Yeah, they had the legoSpider Man. Yeah. A matter of
fact, I think with the legoSpider Man, um, I think it
was a guy or somebody that wasactually doing videos with that and they actually

(01:29:41):
had him to do that. Oh, like, uh, what's to stop
motion. Yeah, yeah, Ithink they actually had him. Yeah,
that's pretty cool. And stuff likethat just show you how much goes into
it. See, So that meansthat they use not only did they use
regular animation, they they used stopanimation, they use five action like they
put different types of filming, youknow, into this story. So that

(01:30:08):
that's if that's not attention to detail, Yeah, I really don't know what
is. Yeah. Yeah, thatthat definitely deserves some applause for that level
of work because four for no fiveyears give a take, Yeah, yeah,

(01:30:30):
give here you know what it depends, you know what I'm saying.
So that that's something that's a lotof await time, you know, if
it would have been a just abomb, you know. So the fact
that they hit this one back outof the park was I'm almost certain that
this movie they might make tweaks hereand there, but I'm sure that movie's

(01:30:54):
done. You know, this one'sa plus plus. Yeah. Yeah,
So after you said all that,there's really nothing else for me to say.
Um, definitely go watch this intheaters. Even though it ended the
way it ended, it is stillan excellent movie. Yeah. Um,
with the right now, if youwant, you can pre order the movie
now on your platforms, don't.They don't really tell you exactly when the

(01:31:16):
digital version to come out, butyou can't and go ahead and preorder.
It's nineteen ninety nine. It's alot cheaper than that market. Mo.
Yeah it has Oh man, thatwas money? Why yeah? And they
still and um. Last thing I'mgonna say and then we out is um.
Hopefully when all three of these moviescome out, they probably won't do

(01:31:39):
it, but I would appreciate aSnyder cut type movie this, like they
put all three of them, cutit and then put all three movies together.
I wouldn't mind that. Or youthey give you the choice to watch
it like that, if you ownall three of them, that would be
decent. Though at least the secondwe had the second, third one,

(01:32:01):
Yeah, at least anyway that that'dbe the least button. Yeah. Yeah,
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