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July 25, 2025 14 mins
In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Stackpack sits down with the dynamic Dr. Lawana — a thought leader, healer, and transformational voice in mental health, relationships, and self-mastery. Together, they dive deep into real conversations around emotional intelligence, generational healing, trauma recovery, and the evolving roles of men and women in love and leadership.

Dr. Lawana shares her unapologetic truths about what it means to do the inner work, how society distorts relationship expectations, and why healing isn’t just a buzzword — it’s survival. Stackpack brings the heat with raw, unfiltered questions that push the conversation beyond surface-level. This episode will challenge your mindset, provoke emotion, and leave you with tools to elevate your personal evolution.

Whether you’re navigating modern dating, looking to heal from the past, or striving to level up spiritually, this episode is a must-listen.

🎙️ Tap in and experience Stackpack x Dr. Lawana — where truth meets transformation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome back to the Network podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I got a special guest coming.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
In for you. Doctor Lewana's coming in. She's been doing
some amazing things.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Get out and get something. She's pulling up to the studio.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
You need to get it off, get it out and
get something. How would you make it if you never
even dry? You need to get.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I don't recall if graduating at all.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Sometimes I feel I'm guss dis some pointment to yuk
every day I just say around.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Then I can't be around always.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I say give me something in life.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like amall time to trump my aunt take.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Got enough problems off I own. They gonna use a
host to be not gonna three. I try to be
a man I'm hoosed to be, but they ain't gonna
tell for a degas hot. You see if you ever
for s hot mett, I'm gonna some dumb ship and
I'm probably they gonna do some must ship and hold
that against me.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Don't and what not.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
My music's all sometimes we can testify.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hey, we're gonna have a dope bad show today because
I told y'all, I got doctor Lawana pulling up to
the studio. Any man, she'll be right in the studio
and we're gonna be having.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Another I like doing this. I go all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
In matter of fact, I think doctor Lawana just pulled up.
Thank you for joining the show. Doctor Lawanna, Can you
please introduce yourself to my audience and tell them who
you are and what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Over to you, I am doctor Lawana Richmond. I am
a futurist who specifies in Afrofuturism. I produce black comic conds.
I've created a framework called Afrofuturism Dream Tank for a
strategic visioning, and I also do workshops who speaking engagements
all over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We I told y'all had to fire guests coming in
for y'all. Y'all better stay tuned now, Doctor Warner, my
first question for you, my first question for you on
air today is what made you get into this? What
was that day it just clicked off for you? You said,
you know what, this is all I want to do.
Do you remember that day?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Over to you, I mean it started off really as
a response to what was happening around me. I work
at a university and I was watching students, you know,
put themselves on the line and get injured protesting and
trying to you know, combat police brutality and a lot
of other things that were happening. And I wanted them

(02:30):
to put that energy into themselves and thinking forward, not
saying that they were right to be against the things
that were going wrong. I just want people to remember
what we're for, because sometimes we get so caught up
in being against things that were not moving forward. We're
just staying and still looking back.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh man, doctor the one I love that. My next
question for you is, doctor Lajuana, is what do you
tell someone that's trying to do something just like you
looking up to you, looking in your steps and says
you know what I want to do this?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
What's a message you got for them?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think the biggest thing is, like, you don't have
to be perfect. A lot of times people don't do
the thing that they want to do because they're waiting
for like every duck to get lined up in a row,
and that's never really going to happen. You just have
to go for it.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think that's important.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Arthur wanta going forward and not letting anyone tell you
that it's not possible. Okay, now, doctor Lawanna, how are
you using some of this new technology and using it
in your journey today. I know there's an an AI,
there's a lot of new tech coming out, but how
are you using some of this.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
New technology to advance yourself nowadays?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Over to you, Well, I've I've used AI to build websites,
and then in terms of my Afrofutureism dream tank, it
used to be a three day process. Now I can
go through the whole thing in an hour or two
with AI to like help synthesize the content and spit
out to a result so that people can make it iterative.

(03:58):
So instead of like you know, manually trying to figure
out how to bring together everybody's ideas, I actually let
AI do all the like blending and then we do
a human review. So I use AI also for writing, editing,
creating art, and sometimes just for thoughts, starting and planning.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I love that, doctor Lajuana, using AI, using this smart
tech to get yourself to the next level is very important.
So my next question for you, doctor Lawanna is what
is collaboration and what does that mean to you? What
is collaboration to doctor Lajuana and how were you using that?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
What does it mean to you? Over to you?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Now for me, collaboration is when people work together for
mutual games and mutual lens. Sometimes people say they want
to collaborate, but what they're really saying is they want
you to come and help push them. I think a
true collaboration is one where everyone is really clear on
how to make sure we're pushing each other to or

(05:00):
mutual games.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I understand that part now, Doctor Lawana, I told you
on the network podcast We're Coming in Hot Now, what
do you see yourself in the next five years? You
got a lot of stuff going on, But where do
you see yourself in the next five years with all
this stuff?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, I'm hoping in the next five years, my plan
is that other people will be able to replicate a
lot of the work that I'm doing, and then I'll
be able to focus on more one on one engagement
and let the big event be more something that I've
kind of left to the community.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Wow, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Lot of la Wanna know what's something you would tell
your younger self right now and what's something you wish
you would have known on your journey. A lot of
people run into different situations, trials and tribulations, But what's
something you wish you would have known on your journey.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I think the biggest thing that I've learned is that
it doesn't really matter who likes you, or who are
with you, or who supports you, if you truly like yourself.
I think sometimes we get caught up in trying to, like,
you know, make everybody else happy, and we end up
leaving ourselves miserable. I think that my greatest success has

(06:14):
come when I've been doing the things that make me happy,
because other people want to be around happy people.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Other people want to be around happy people.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Wow. So what's some of your strengths that you found
in the industry? And if you don't mind sharing, have
you found some of the weaknesses that you've strengthened up
Over to you, doctor Lawanna, let's continue.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think you know, you know, oddly, the greatest strengths
that I found are really low tech, and that's the
ability to like, love, and connect with people and build
relationships that are meaningful instead of plentiful. And I think
in terms of the weakness, it was spreading myself too thin,
and I've strengthened that by just saying know a lot more.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So you exercise the word no. How has that worked out?
For you exercising that How powerful is that for you?
Because sometimes you got to put up your boundaries. How
important is boundaries over to you?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
So sometimes we look around and we see people who
we might consider less qualified or less prepared than us
seeming to achieve greater success. And a lot of that
is because they are non negotiables, are firmer, and so
you know, I was somewhere once to where I watch
someone who, like you know, they had set their price

(07:35):
and set what their requirements were, and they didn't even
know what they were talking about. The people met that requirement,
and I was like, oh, okay, so I'm walking in
with all the things that I bring with me, I
need to just stop giving them away exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I feel that now, doctor, the one that what, what's
the biggest mindset shift you had to make you succeed?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think the big one was just to focus on
the what and spend less time obsessing over the how,
because when you move in the direction of the what,
and the how begins to manifest.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Can manifest pretty quick. Definitely, definitely, definitely understand that. Now,
do you believe entrepreneurship is built or born? Let's talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
I think it's built. I think, you know, if it's born,
it's more of a nepo thing than of a you
were just born automatically knowing what to do. It's just
like you know, people aren't. I guess there's some people
who are blessed with like natural muscular bodies. But if
you really want to have you know, good tone and fitness,
you have to exercise every day. And I think entrepreneurship

(08:44):
is a muscle you have to exercise and built as well.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Now, my next question for you, doctor Lawana, is how
did you get your first business idea and how did
that come to life?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Okay, my first business idea. You're going to laugh at me.
I was about ten years old and it was a
hot summer day and me and my friend Tina were
sitting by the pool and we realized that everybody else
was like hot and thirsty too. So we went to
the store and bought like treats and kool Aid packets

(09:16):
and we made like a kool Aid stand right by
the pool and we kind of cleaned up that summer.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
That is a good idea, though, having that going though
that is not a bad idea. Now, my next question
for you is really really really like because a lot
of people go through this, but what was the biggest
challenges in your early startup days? You know, people always
have to begin these days. You remember any big challenges
that you went through in your early stages.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I think the biggest challenge for me has been, you know,
was focused and being able to like tune out. You know,
once you have an idea, and it's good. Everybody got
their idea of like what you should do or how
you should do it, or what they would do if
they would use and all of that is distractions. It
doesn't mean you can't listen, because listening is you know,

(10:09):
you got two ears for a reason. But you can't
just like be, you know, running around chasing everybody else's
dreams when it's your dream you're really trying to build.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, definitely, I definitely feel that, doctor La wanna because
you're hitting on a lot of points.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now, what's a pivotal moment in your entrepreneurial journey? Do
you remember that? Do you remember any pivotal moments let's talk.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I think the biggest thing is when you know, I
realized that this was not just like a hobby because originally,
you know, I was just doing these things for fun,
because it's things that I actually enjoy and have a
passion for. And then you know, there was a moment
when I realized that my passion and my purpose could align.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Alignments everything, Doctor Lawanna, we need an alignment. Look, doctor
Waanna came, can you tell me where they can follow
you at on like social media platforms? Because I know
a lot of people are going to be listening to
this episode, but how are they going to be able
to find you when it's time to search you? Any
Instagram tags, anything that they can find you on with.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Pages with some of your stuff for so Afro Futurism
Underscore Lounge is the page for the event. And then
I have doctor Lawana on ig and Sirial which I
say it has the most followers. It's the hardest thing
to spell. It's f like family, I R Y A

(11:32):
L I and it's the swily name that means extraordinary.
It came out of when I was an undergrad student
and I was on the African Cultural Society. We had
to have African names if we wanted to be in leadership,
and so I went with sial and Tumla cambone, which
means extraordinary messenger or servant for and of the people.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I told you I had doctor Lawanna coming in now,
Doctor Juanna, before you leave? How do you stay ahead
of your competitors and the rest of the people out
there that want to do what you want to do?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
I spend time consuming a lot of content. I pay
attention to what's happening in the genre, in the field,
in other parts of the world. I read a lot,
and I spend a lot of time with other people
who have the same interest as me, just to kind
of stay up with what's going on.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Doctor Lawanna coming in killing this now, Doctor la One,
I got, you know, a few more minutes with you. Now,
what role does branding play in your business success? Let's
talk about this before we leave.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
So, I mean, somehow I didn't realize it when I
first started being in afrofuturism. You know, everything that I've done,
I thought I was behind. Like when I started making
websites in nineteen ninety five, I thought, oh man, the
internet has been around for a long time. I need
to get up on this tech, and I realized that
nobody else was really doing that back then. And the

(12:59):
same thing with after futurism. It's like I have been
reading the books and being into the genre and the
seal before I knew the term, and then one day
I realized that, like at least in my city and
many other circles that I frequent, I represent after futurism
for those people, like just the way that I dress,

(13:20):
the things that I talk about, the things that I do.
Sometimes people invite me to events locally just because they
know other people will be excited about whatever it is
because they know I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Doctor Lawana is in here and lotad one and then
dropped the bomb. She'll be back on the podcast show.
She'll be coming into a clubhouse with me, and shall
you follow her Instagram? There's going to be a bunch
of people following her after these episodes, and she'll be
continuing to work with stack Man as these as these
stories start to develop. But Doctor Lawanda, we appreciate you.

(13:57):
Any final words before we crash out of here.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, anybody that's going to be in San Diego for
a San Diego Comic con, come to the Afrofuturism Lounge
on Thursday, July twenty fourth, six pm at the Fleet
Science Center, so then you can kind of see what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Will be there, b Square, Doctor Ronald, We appreciate you
and thank you for coming on the Network podcast Let's Go.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Thank you for having me
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