Gender Warz World Wide Episode 15- "Are Broke Men Undatable or Just Undervalued?"

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Listen, y'all know, God, y'all know, we're gonna go up.
Oh my god, welcome to the motherfucking warar floor. I'm
away from our broskey Gate.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know what it is.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
We're gonna be sending that motherfucking traffic thro gonna tom
you understand, Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Bro's yo, Oh my god, yo.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Hey, eyes hopping on a phone call. But we're gonna
cray come up here real quick, Lorna. Our Marten relationsip
built on love or leverage and me having a lot
of people come through to that. It's gonna be one
of them crazy rooms where the war floor just gets
nuts and we start just, oh my god, the debates
get crazy in here. I appreciate you guys, you know,

(02:40):
coming through and come and rock with stack and oh
my god.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Dead.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
We're waiting for some people to come up, and we're
gonna be waiting for some people to ping.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So it's what I'm waiting for my friends and family.
Hold on.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
It's scared of.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
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Speaker 5 (03:13):
The lay gets.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
Scary spoken hilarious.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Cray scary spoken hilarious.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh man, wait till yo.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Modern relationships built on love or leverage? Oh man, I
really want to know about this today. It's gonna be
one of them crazy topics because every time we do
a crazy ass topic, I'm telling you, Bro.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It gets nuts.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my god, God always you know, PhD, you already
know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Fucking Pat g looking for the late PhD? Whatever? What up?

Speaker 8 (03:54):
What up?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Talk to me, Doctor Vaughan. Ain't for the family to
pull up, man, you know what the fuck we're gonna
be stoll Doctor Vaughan, Hold up, man, when we get
the family up here a side, You get your family
up here a side were doing? Lady, everybody get up here, breezy,

(04:17):
y'all know crazy right?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You done sent the whole mother fucking mop up in
this smother walker and I'm pinging it up. Get up
on the stead, doctor marm. Put people on the stairs
with what the fuck?

Speaker 9 (04:28):
I got hit I got ducks, I got new paper cups,
I got friends, I got posed, But they.

Speaker 10 (04:32):
Host sitting doctor hitters her finger cracking. Don't look back,
black up the LUTs fifty deep.

Speaker 11 (04:36):
But it ain't deep enough.

Speaker 12 (04:38):
Fucking paste. They ain't gonna be mar fucking from a
money tree.

Speaker 13 (04:41):
Hen it grow throughout the monspital little here the camera
speeded off here, I feel good, Get.

Speaker 10 (04:46):
The fuck out my fire, don't got no.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Time, didn't walk out with the side.

Speaker 11 (04:52):
Man, don't let me know what the man.

Speaker 14 (04:55):
Squabble squabble, long squabble, locks squabble, lock, squabble, squabble, squabble.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Up.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
You're in the motherfucking war floor.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
God damn it. Hold the fun up, Hold up, Hold up, yeah,
Freezy pH.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
DD talking and I know he got a woman and
he's talking.

Speaker 15 (05:35):
Like I'm not doing it today.

Speaker 16 (05:40):
I got a want hold on, patro, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Welcome to the war floor, Harriet. Let's get some order, diego.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Good morning, Harriet, Albert Andre and Chad pH D Doctor Vaughan.
Every can I get a good morning in the chat
before we start the war? Can can we put good
morning in the chat before we start this motherfucking crazy wall?
Because I got a question on the table right now,
Penger shub share this up so we can allow more
people to come up here. Shout out to Albert, shout us,
the chat, shout out the diggo shout us. The pager

(06:09):
shouts to everybody that's on the stage right now, right
Jarvis just came here. Word appreciate you. Everybody. Put the
good morning in the child. I like the good energy
before we get flowing in this motherfucker. But I want
to talk about today is our Marden relationships built on
love or leverage. A lot of people are holding shit
over people's heads when they get with people. Right, Oh,
I got this going on. I got you know what

(06:31):
I mean, They holding shit over people's heads. Now, if
you was out there doing your own mother fucking thing,
you wouldn't have, you know, someone holding leverage over your
head or hold it.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like you ain't nothing like you know, someone trying to
be your boss. You're your own boss, right, so you
can't hold nothing over my head. So this this is
what I want to talk about. Then you got some
people building it on love, trust, spirituality, mental development. Right,
I want to get into this shit. Want to keep
the floor open while we have some more people here.
But our Martin relationship is built on love or leverage.

(07:05):
I want to keep the floor open popcorn style, who's
coming in first?

Speaker 16 (07:09):
Let's go me.

Speaker 17 (07:11):
I don't know what the fuck people talking about?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
What the fuck people doing?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
It?

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Don't make any sense?

Speaker 17 (07:15):
And then for hours and hours for five years, people
just talking about stupid ass ship, like what the fuck
is really going on? And I think that they're the
perpetrators of the same things that they complain about.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Mm hmm, squabble up, chad, what happened hip?

Speaker 18 (07:42):
Like I'm tired of this mother, I've got avoided person.
So stuff be over stimulating, you know? Okay? Are mon

(08:03):
of relationships built on love? Or leverage both of them?
Both of them? How you're gonna build without leveraging?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Total chat, break that shit down there, let's do what're
we talking about?

Speaker 18 (08:19):
Like building love?

Speaker 19 (08:21):
Right?

Speaker 18 (08:22):
Building a relationship? People are leveraging different things, Like we
act like it's a bad thing. If you have a business,
you know, you leverage certain things to gain other things, Right,
So people, you're leveraging love in a relationship. Now we
thinking of it as negative because sometimes people leverage by manipulation.

(08:44):
But you can leverage your leveraging your skills, right, what
you quote unquote are bringing to the table, You're leveraging
your potential as a mother, You're leveraging your potential as
a father. You're you leverage qualities, right, and that's what
makes that person settle down with you. So you know,
I don't think you can have love without good leveraging.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, that's what I was saying, chat. I think it
got to be a healthy leverage. But I was coming
from you know, were on the wall floor. So I'm saying,
I see people leveraging ship where they're holding ship over
y'all head. Oh I got this and I got this
and you don't. So it's leverage over the relationship. I
got more going on than you, so I get to
say what's going on?

Speaker 16 (09:24):
You get a chat.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
So I'm putting back on that people hold over people's
head in the relationship with niggas.

Speaker 18 (09:32):
Niggas, niggas, niggas, bitch bitch, So thank you.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
But we all in the same boat.

Speaker 19 (09:41):
No, No, it kind of goes I know he's talking
about we all know what he's talking about. So it
goes to the young women that have more than their counterpart.
And now it's her house, her apartment, her car, right,
same thing for the fellas that you know, I got
I got you right, just let me lay figure out.
So the same thing with the fella. He might be
a dope boy, this is a regular, honest, working young woman.

Speaker 10 (10:04):
Yes he has a car. Yeah, I can get you this.
Y'all bought you those shoes. I bought you this. I
did that.

Speaker 19 (10:08):
By by so, what that person is doing, they're being
they're being toxic to this person, and they're leveraging bullshit,
because if we're together, we're supposed to be trying to
be one.

Speaker 10 (10:20):
So a person saying this is my house, they're kind
of letting you know, nigga, I got the Trump card.

Speaker 19 (10:26):
The guy that's saying a short you know, I pick
for all this, he's leveraging you know who I paid
the calls to be the boss.

Speaker 10 (10:32):
I think that's what stat hitting on. Y'all can play
them though. But let's go, let's go to war.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
We ready, you understand, you understand, understand, let's go. Let's
get it.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
Down.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And my name?

Speaker 12 (10:48):
Why is it in your name?

Speaker 19 (10:51):
She's already laying you know she don't want to be
with that if she goes wrong, if she goes wrong, ye.

Speaker 17 (11:03):
Name now, if you want to have it in your name?
By all, means, but like, this is the whole thing.
If that motherfucking electric bill in my name, that.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
My cr not yours, that's a very woman. That the war.

Speaker 13 (11:24):
They don't come together about it. They don't come together.
They don't come together as one. They don't come together
with the concept we won together. We come from a
power struggle. Who gonna get out on who first? Who's
gonna tell.

Speaker 16 (11:35):
Who what to do? And that's how they come on, Louis,
let's get it. Who got who got? Who got the
most juice? Do you got the most juice?

Speaker 13 (11:44):
Is the money? It's the money, that is the money,
the juice you feel me Lois's it's the shelter of
the juice. What what what's what's the leverage?

Speaker 16 (11:52):
What's what? What can I use to what can I
use to control you? They don't come to.

Speaker 13 (11:58):
They're not gonna say, hey, we coming together as one.
It's our house, it's our money, it's our life bill,
it's our card. No, it's mine, it's mine, it's me,
myself and I. And then about year six, I don't
want to be I don't want to do this no more.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
By wah.

Speaker 20 (12:15):
So just so clear, just so unclear, because I might
have grew up in Disneyland. I'm willing to accept that
if it's true. So, but what y'all saying people are
going down here deliberately looking for people in worse situations
than them. And besides, they can and how they can
provide and use that its leverage.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
To course, b that's not even given.

Speaker 16 (12:42):
Bro hold on, hold on, hold on, real.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Quick, real quick, real quick, real quick. Let me get it,
let me get it. Everybody always praise on the weaker victim.
Y'all see that shit happen every day. If you look weak,
you will get prayed on. You see that ship, stop
playing with it?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, I'm going man of guys, don't.

Speaker 21 (13:01):
A lot of men don't feel like men unless they
have a woman that needs them. Though, So there's that.
By the way, good morning.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Talking with you.

Speaker 22 (13:13):
Man, show to much emotion.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's a chink his.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
But it depends on.

Speaker 21 (13:25):
The kind of woman that she's dealing with. But to
to this topic, our modern relationships built on love or leverage?
I mean, if it's a modern relationship where people are
still operating from survival mode, I'm not sure if y'all
sell this already, But yeah, they're they're gonna be looking
for leverage. But if you're actually looking to connect, bond

(13:46):
and build with a person and show up in service
to a person, then it's built on love. Obviously, ain't
no definite like, there's no like, you know what, what's
the word I'm looking for? My brain is still I
still got Jim Fog part of me. But but there's
no there's no Yes, there's no obviously, like everyone does

(14:11):
it differently. If you if you're coming from again survival mode,
then you're gonna be looking for somebody to take advantage
of an in turn, you would likely be taking advantage
of like a lot of a lot of people who
think that they're taking advantage of a person don't realize
that the person sees that they're trying to take advantage
of them, and they end up being a lick. So
there's that.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Go ahead, bro ski.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Oh can I say something? Or modern relationships built on
love or leverage? Ship? Man? You know what, this is
the most toxic ship I've heard in the wild of bro.

Speaker 23 (14:52):
You feel me because there is a factory that women
it's been hurt so much that they have to get
a one up on you, and if you do, you
they would take that ship, but you'll never know, but
she would take she would she would take that ship
and say, you know what I did that I did
it anyway, So I don't will give a ship anyway
later on masking.

Speaker 11 (15:12):
It as it is like his love.

Speaker 23 (15:15):
So you staying there, wonder as a man, why is
she sticking around? Sticking around after she found out I
have done me? What is the material motive?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
What is it?

Speaker 23 (15:25):
I mean, you tell me, tell me if I'm far off,
because this is what happens. And then and then hold
on and then she she grows it conscious.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
At one point she.

Speaker 23 (15:37):
Don't She doesn't tell you about she did before, she
does something after and then talks about that. Know that
she already got one up. That's the reason why she's
stayed in the relationship. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for
one hundred.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 19 (15:51):
And it's even deeper than that. Not only does she
stay with you ill, she stays with you because you're
a leak. If you guys ever wondered about the fifty
fifty conversation actual relationship, people don't have a fighting in
that dog in that fight is because you know how
dumb it sounds.

Speaker 10 (16:07):
For two people to want to be with each other.

Speaker 19 (16:09):
Understand that most people in the r race come from
poverty or uh, let's say scarce means right for one
person to take on the boat load and the other
person to be fine with that. Come on, man, you
know that is but one of these people, whether there's
men and women, because both ben and women take on
this dumb ass role, one of these persons wants to

(16:30):
be with the other person way more. Yeah, one person
actually is proven their love their dedication to the relationship,
while one person knows, hey, man, I got more sexual
market value.

Speaker 10 (16:42):
She needs me, he needs me. They're not gonna leave me.
That's how this happens.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
So he proves in his love through livery.

Speaker 19 (16:49):
Yeah, yes, Jarvis, hold on, Hoppy. You never heard somebody say, hey, yo,
I know the things you've been through. Man, you don't
have anybody in your family depending on I'm all you got.
You know, I take care of everything you man, You'll

(17:10):
check it out. Man, I have the resources, you know.
I got a good job. I've been working. I do
over time, I do X, Y and Z to support you. Man,
you don't have to go to work.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I got it. I got you.

Speaker 10 (17:20):
Your mom ain't shit your daddy.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, come on, people definitely pull things over your head.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Well people do, people do do that, like you.

Speaker 24 (17:27):
I had a man that was like that with me,
and he was extremely emotionally unavailable and very manipulative. And
that's what like, basically that's his response to anything that
anything manipulation, any time he was ky red handed, anytime.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
He didn't feel what he said he was gonna do.

Speaker 24 (17:44):
He speak on how everybody in my life ain't shit.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Nobody gonna do what he do for me.

Speaker 24 (17:49):
He got more money than everybody I know, you know,
and it's kind of like, bro, like that's not worth
my piece, nigga, Like what the fuck? I play my
own rent, my bills every month with you without you,
with a nigga without a nigga with the mama without
a mama.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
So yuh.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Some people aren't like that, and that is very toxic.

Speaker 24 (18:07):
Like that's a red fucking plant to me because I
feel like, first of all, you're belittering my life and
my independence in turn for whatever the fuck absence, emotional
absence or whatever.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
The fuck you got going on. That's not conducive of
this relationship.

Speaker 21 (18:21):
So Harriet, I legitimately hurt. A man on this app
say that when he gets with women, he makes sure
that when they move in together, he makes sure that
that woman can't afford the rent on her own, so
that she won't leave him, and she'll second, she'll second
gets like leaving him if ever it comes to mind,
Like he's blinking. He blatantly said it rent t really legitimately.

Speaker 11 (18:46):
He said.

Speaker 21 (18:47):
If he said, when I get with women, I make
sure that if we move in together, I make sure
it's some shit that she can't afford on her own,
so that if she thinks about leaving me, she she
double thinks, she thinks twice.

Speaker 25 (19:00):
I was like, wow, like many.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I wasn't done.

Speaker 21 (19:12):
Yeah, Like like it's legitimately. People out here that only
feel and don't get me don't get me wrong, Like
obviously we're built differently, right, and I've grown to love
and appreciate our differences as men and women. And men
do need to feel useful to to to feel you know,
loved in some relationships some men do you know what

(19:33):
I mean?

Speaker 12 (19:34):
Like most men do.

Speaker 21 (19:35):
So I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. However,
if you got to feel useful at the expense of
another person or at the the uh disadvantage of someone else.
I think that that there's something wrong with that. I
don't think that's a pure kind of balanced love that
anyone should sign up for.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Right.

Speaker 24 (19:55):
It's like somebody wants you to somebody wants you so bad.
They want you to feel small, and they want you
to kind of struggle a little bit, and you have
a sense of like a struggle, a sense of providement,
a lots of freedom with them, Like when you're with me,
I want you to feel like this. So you're scared
to leave me? Like what are you planning to.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
Do with that?

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Are you planning to cheat on me?

Speaker 24 (20:17):
Are you planning to call me out my name and
now I can't go nowhere?

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Like what the fuck is going?

Speaker 26 (20:22):
Like?

Speaker 12 (20:22):
Why why would you do that?

Speaker 7 (20:23):
Are you planning to not love me correctly?

Speaker 26 (20:25):
Like?

Speaker 7 (20:25):
What are you planning to do with this trapman?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Lord?

Speaker 7 (20:28):
Are you planning to do with these cuffs.

Speaker 12 (20:29):
That you just put on a bitch?

Speaker 13 (20:30):
Like what the How many times have we heard a
woman say, oh, I really didn't like him like that,
but he grew on me.

Speaker 27 (20:38):
That's leverage, Oh man, that's a man.

Speaker 21 (20:50):
If a man is pursuing, and I, oh, you weren't done.
Pardon me, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (20:58):
If a woman says that her husband grew on her,
why does she marry? Why does she marry? Because evidently
it wasn't for love. It was for leverage, because she
knew she had somebody that had it, that she had
his nose wide open, and did she manipulate him to
do the things or the outcome would be better for her?

Speaker 16 (21:18):
So that was pure leverage. Love, the love.

Speaker 22 (21:23):
She leveraged the marriage.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
For her exactly what.

Speaker 21 (21:33):
I yielded to him.

Speaker 18 (21:34):
So, yeah, because I want to know, I'm not trying
to I was just asking him a question.

Speaker 21 (21:38):
No, it's okay, because that's that's that's where I was,
thank you, because because because I don't, I don't. I
don't see how. I mean, I can see how you
might consider that leverage. And in some cases, and maybe, however,
if I was a man, you're pursuing a woman. She
doesn't initially know that she likes you like that. I
don't know why, y'all, some of y'all will know not

(22:00):
that likable for us for you to just show up
and us know, hey, he has a nice person. Yeah,
you just said you was talking right, and I yielded
to you and I'll let you finish. Yeah, like yeah, like,
in the same way y'all say, you know some woman.
You guys aren't that smart, You aren't that funny. Sometimes

(22:20):
you show up me. The only thing you see is
with the outside, the meat too, the physical attraction, our avatar,
and then y'all decide whether or not we're worth either
committing to keeping whatever it is. It's the same thing
if you're a man and you're pursuing a woman, she
doesn't always know that you're anything more than like what

(22:40):
you what you present initially. So if I'm saying a
man grew on me, it doesn't necessarily mean that, oh,
I'm leveraging the fact that he's attracted to me. It
just means that it took it took a little time
for me to realize that I liked him. Because we
don't just go in thinking, oh, I'm gonna like somebody
right away, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's trying to

(23:03):
leverage anything or take advantage of the men.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, real quick, real quick, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Before y'all
go in, right, if y'all are just joining for the
new people that's coming in. We're talking about our modern
relationships built on love or leverage.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
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Speaker 1 (23:19):
Also, if you got a pink ticket, cash that shit
in so that way you can be a part of
the gender war.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So that way, when we go live, you're right here.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
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Speaker 2 (23:32):
Floor open. Let's continue.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
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mentors Megan Mansion. So that way when I go live
with business conversations, you're there as well.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Who's going next.

Speaker 16 (23:43):
Let's stalk to it so.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
You ask the question.

Speaker 19 (23:46):
So he kind of had it wrong with the leverage
on the men's side. They're actually on the women right,
So these women leverage it looks see the reason why
they go out the guys that are flunting money.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Because they know this guy doesn't look good.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
She know he ain't one of the ones.

Speaker 19 (24:02):
She's gave pussy the niggas without nothing because he was fine.

Speaker 10 (24:07):
Come on, man, paws, that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
She linked.

Speaker 19 (24:09):
He's seeing something women tell you in the other conversations,
I know if I'm gonna fuck you in the first
five seconds.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
To see you.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
So now, how is she?

Speaker 10 (24:16):
How is she telling us that she didn't know she
liked her husband.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
She never liked them.

Speaker 10 (24:21):
She never thought about giving that niggas some pussy until he.

Speaker 19 (24:23):
Showed them prove that he can provide. That's why he
had to go on so many dates. That's why he
had to pay for shit. That's why he had to
provide tangibly before she gave up the pussy, because she
gave it to little Jamal. Little Jamal got that pussy
in the back of a ukhon. Look, Jamal got that head.

(24:44):
Come on, man, hey, the guys, the guys that are
going to the gym, the guys that are on their purpose,
the guys that are chasing money, they don't have these
problems with old women are not trying to give up
the box.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
We all know they giving up the box.

Speaker 19 (24:59):
The guys that are seeing her saying, hey, man, I'm
gonna love my wife, I'm gonna take care of her,
I'm gonna be her all they end up being I
you should carry saying they want attention from other niggas
even though you provided everything, because because she holds deliverage,
she holds deliverage in her looks.

Speaker 22 (25:16):
Man, I'm gonna go on mute man.

Speaker 21 (25:20):
I just want to say, men who use other people's experiences,
negative experiences with the person that they're dating, as the
standard for how they show up are using leverage, are
loving from a place of leverage. And I love they're
they're approaching you based on They're trying to give you
bare minimum, based on the fact that they feel like
that's all you deserve because that's what they think you took,

(25:42):
or that's what they think you accepted. I never understood y'all,
men's need to freaking dick meager with another man, Like,
who cares what the other man, what her experience, what
the other dude is. Are you learning what she's been through,
what she's dealt with, in order to learn how to
love her properly, or so that you could learn how

(26:03):
to show up in the least possible way and gain
the most out of that woman, Like I don't.

Speaker 19 (26:08):
Know she's gassedlighting fellas, let's fellas the bank. Hold On,
hold On, hold on, I got off the like first
hold on real quick the bank. The bank looks at
your history. Everybody looks at you. You've done I can
I talk?

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Can I talk?

Speaker 19 (26:24):
Everybody looks at your history to see if they're going.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
To approve you for more. Nobody listen.

Speaker 19 (26:31):
We're the only people that are then asked to not
look into somebody's history and judge them off of it.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Everybody, even when you go to college, you need transcripts.

Speaker 19 (26:39):
When you want a loan from the bank, you need
history from a bank account, right, you need credit history
to get credit cards.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Why the fuck would I not look into your history
and judge you off that. This is crazy.

Speaker 10 (26:50):
If the last nigga gave you chicken nuggins and French fries,
hold on, I got you.

Speaker 19 (26:54):
But if the last nigga gave you chicken nuggins and
French fries, now you're trying to take my money and
take it to Eddiev's stk.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Chris, you're fucking batshit crazy. You are a chicken nuggets
and so down be.

Speaker 19 (27:07):
Okay with the hamburger yo, Okay, that's good, that's working.

Speaker 28 (27:14):
Get this work there.

Speaker 14 (27:18):
But okay, so so sys you you know what you
said in theory, I like it a lot, right, No,
man should be worried about another man.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Totally agree, never get into that kind of thing.

Speaker 12 (27:28):
But we must acknowledge that often you have a group of.

Speaker 14 (27:32):
Women, not all women, but you know, when you're according them,
sometimes they will bring up and point out what other
men have done for them and so on and so
forth they bring that up.

Speaker 16 (27:43):
You know, that happens.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
And then and you know, now, if you get really
really down, you know, and then sometimes you know, then
the real hood chicks to say, in a minute, well
I can get somebody else to do it for me.
And so what happens is men fall into that manipulation
and they want to compete with somebody that they don't
they don't even know if it's a real man it
even is doing it or willing to do that for her.

(28:07):
But they automatically allow that manipulation to take them down
a rabbit hole where they're trying to show up with
this woman to outproove this, uh, this notion that you know,
I'm going to outdo this other man.

Speaker 12 (28:18):
So it's like it's like a double edged swartz what
you mentioned.

Speaker 14 (28:23):
So, but to the sisterences out there, starting with a
clean slate, who those two youth to those.

Speaker 12 (28:27):
Who are using that manipulative, manipulative tactic.

Speaker 28 (28:31):
Shame on y'all.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Shame shame, shame on y'all.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
And to my dudes, don't fall for the bullshit.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
I am.

Speaker 21 (28:40):
Yeah, it's just giving. It's's giving manipulation, it's giving. We
get why manipulation starts with men, because why the hell
y'all so concerned about how badly like? It's almost like
y'all need to know. And that's what makes it so
dangerous for women to actually open up and share experiences
with men, because it's almost as though some of you

(29:02):
are looking to use negative experiences against women for leverage
in order to not show up as your best self,
as your best selves with women. And I hate that
for y'all, and I hate that for the women that
have to experience y'all.

Speaker 19 (29:17):
Don't let those cheers get you off balanced, fellas, if
not let that sweet voice, that fat ass and their
fucking tears get you off balance. She has never been
to the Bahamas. Why does she want to go to
Bora Bora? Why the fuck does she want to go
to Thailand when she's never been to New York City.
Don't let the tears in the fat ass, take you

(29:37):
off the measure, guys.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
These women are lackluster. They've been dealing with lackluster guys.

Speaker 19 (29:43):
Why shall you be the knight and shining armor that
saves her from the projects. She's never been outside the city?

Speaker 16 (29:49):
What are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
So?

Speaker 21 (29:52):
If you're dealing with women haven't been to Bora Bora
outside the city, what the fuck does that say about you?

Speaker 20 (29:58):
Like?

Speaker 10 (29:58):
Why you?

Speaker 18 (29:59):
Why are you?

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Why are you?

Speaker 8 (30:01):
Figs on hanging through?

Speaker 21 (30:03):
And now you want to be talking about these women
and talking about, Oh, she's never been here and she's
never been there, so why are you trying to be
her night and shrining armor? If you a bum and
you date bum chicks, just say that, But don't try
to make it seem like I'm sitting here trying to
manipulate or gas like anybody, stick to stick to the
the rivers in the lakes that you're used to. But
that's not what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
So so why is it?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
So?

Speaker 13 (30:25):
Why is it that women now, women all of a
sudden won't want men asking for women.

Speaker 16 (30:32):
And men and men have to be left for.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
Their what they got exactly? Just remember they make up
these songs say we're scrubs.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
They not dealing with scrubs.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
They not dealing with niggas on the passenger side.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Remember that that fellers every day.

Speaker 29 (30:52):
Niggas always worried about nigga doing with girl giving me
anybody's presenting. Talk to me like you want to go
get you so you can watch them girls, or so
why you're why Niggas always worried about what the last.

Speaker 19 (31:09):
I got your game? But look, this is this is
so amazing that we get men that even defend this point.
I'm from Florida, guys, if you ain't met me, my
name is palm Bee's Pagerokes. Every summer, every really, really
all year, there's girls that come down and they get
the yachts, they get Airbnb's right, they're smoking weed, they're
drinking hookah. The guy that paid for the yacht is

(31:31):
somewhere in Kansas and he never thought. Damn, Mike Shorty
and none of her friends can drive a boat. Mike
Shorty and none of her friends know where weed is
in Miami? How do they get these tangibles? There's other niggas, right.
These women will sit and pretend and play on their looks.
They will play on the fact that they know there's
a guy that loves her shitty draws. She will play

(31:51):
on that, leverage that and get the nice trips. She
would get the rent page, she would get the expensive bags.
Right whole time, she's giving that ship the pooky and
ray ring on the load.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Come on, man, y'all.

Speaker 19 (32:02):
Don't understand how women leverage this ship. You're probably not
here for the conversation. That's a sad thing.

Speaker 21 (32:11):
I mean, I guess y'all want to talk about women
who who hurt child feelings and who like you know,
like ho out and and and do those types of things.
I understand you know, that's that's where these conversations go.
But yeah, nah m hmm, not.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Here for it.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
Watch your craft for sympathy.

Speaker 22 (32:34):
She's trying to get feel it.

Speaker 14 (32:39):
You didn't address to You didn't address the women that
used that manipulation tactic. You addressed the men, but you
didn't address the women.

Speaker 21 (32:46):
And Rob I actually did. Initially, I didn't know. I
didn't add any gender initially to to what I said.
But you know, Pedro was very focused on a certain
type of one.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
So again I'm gonna again.

Speaker 21 (33:00):
You know, he had to take what I said and
try to make it seem like I was crying and yeah, lighting,
because you know that's what these guys in the medical Robert's.

Speaker 12 (33:12):
Move out the way to That was me and you.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
That was a conversation for you and I.

Speaker 14 (33:16):
I can't you know what Pedro said was his thing,
no disrespect to me, but I was you know, that
was me and.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
You right there?

Speaker 19 (33:23):
Yeah, yeah, no problem. Right, I go to the gym, right.
I have my own finances. I don't have to deal
with it. I don't have to put up with a
snotty nosed girl, right just because she's fine.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Women that are.

Speaker 19 (33:33):
Attractive leverage their looks for guys that are ugly or
guys that are ohweight all the time. This is the
way of the world. Look at some of the celebrities.
Look at jay Z and Beyonce. You think jay Z
and Beyonce are on the same market level when it
comes to sexuality.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Fuck no.

Speaker 30 (33:51):
It can.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I let me work, Let me work, bro let me work, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Let me work.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, let me work. Now I'm
not at work.

Speaker 19 (34:01):
I'm working on the stage right yeah yeah yeah, man,
and so king I can get fired. I don't need
a woman to hire me. I'm a private Why would
I need Heavens, No, I just want Yeah, man, Ao,
you gotta stop trying to hold a hand, Robert, Come on, ma, man,
stop trying to hold handed. These are facts and we
shouldn't be both talking at the same time. I would

(34:22):
have been done by now.

Speaker 12 (34:23):
You know what, I'm gonna let you.

Speaker 19 (34:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, use your New York accent. Tell
me go ahead, go had right, that's how you said
go ahead. I'm a go ahead, so check this out.

Speaker 26 (34:32):
Let me work.

Speaker 19 (34:33):
So so women that are more attractive, they leverage this
all the time. Why do you think it's okay for
women to go to the club with no money because
nigga's gonna buy them drinks.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
The club even let them be free. The club even
let him in free. Yo. It's no problem with a
fine woman that's thirty five showing.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Up with zero dollars.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
They even come with no pocket books.

Speaker 23 (34:55):
What are we talking about.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
They know there's bum niggas, yeah, bro.

Speaker 19 (34:59):
They they know there's bum niggas that don't have any
self awareness that have money. Right, So there may be
a guy that's a millionaire, he has no swag. She
knows that she's gonna eat him up, Pauls.

Speaker 10 (35:12):
Just like the Atlanta Housewives.

Speaker 19 (35:13):
If you look at any of these housewives, then look
at their husbands, then come back and try to argue
with Pedro that women haven't been leveraging their looks and
pussy for years.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
This is the oldest fucking game in the world. Is
called prostitution.

Speaker 10 (35:25):
Y'all just turning their marriage.

Speaker 31 (35:28):
Well, here's the problem, here's the bond deco de Marco.

Speaker 21 (35:33):
So you have someone, I'm sorry, and she yielded to
me a while ago. So I just want to try
to make space for her, if as possible, if you
don't mind let her go first, because she did a
while ago.

Speaker 32 (35:51):
Oh I love you, but I disagree with you. I
do think women their beauty, but I think men leverage
their money. They're game money. Women leveraged their looks.

Speaker 33 (36:09):
That's it, thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Not nowadays.

Speaker 34 (36:12):
I want to be on the same thing as the
man for me and concleve man, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (36:17):
What was going on?

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Brother?

Speaker 31 (36:18):
I just want to say to Pedro, I'm trying to
reconcile what he's saying in such sweeping terms. Because we
see couples like a brad, a brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie
all the time. I mean, that's that's the basis of
assortative mating. People get with people who are like themselves
to such an extent that they even look alike. That
they did, they did a computer imaging scan on people's faces, right,

(36:44):
and they then one of the couples that they used.
They wanted to use well known couples that everybody knows.
So at the time they're no longer together, but at
the time Brad Pitt and Angelo, Angelina and Joelie were together.

Speaker 12 (36:55):
This is I believe this is before they actually got married,
I believe, but any of that they were, they were together.

Speaker 31 (37:01):
Their faces were both facing forward towards the camera and
very close to each other.

Speaker 12 (37:06):
And the computer analysis.

Speaker 31 (37:09):
Show that they actually have very similar facial symmetry and structure.
They did the same thing with Arnold Swarzenegger and Kennedy
family member Maria Shriver, same thing, same results. So and
they did it with a number of other famous couples.
And it is not a racial thing. It's a mathematical thing,

(37:32):
your facial structure thing. So it's not about race, it's
about the facial structure. And what they found is that
the couples who stay together the longest are the couples
who look alike, because like attracts like.

Speaker 12 (37:47):
That's a sortiti of mating.

Speaker 31 (37:49):
Most millionaires in the United States, roughly thirty million of
us of them, most millionaires in the United States have
been are married and have been for quite some time.

Speaker 11 (38:00):
That's a fact.

Speaker 31 (38:01):
Most millionaires in the United States do not inherit their money.
Most of them make their own money their first generation.
It's very rare in the United States to find someone
who inherited their money.

Speaker 12 (38:14):
That's very rare.

Speaker 31 (38:15):
That's a European thing. That's not an American thing. America
is not Europe in that regard. So while there are
I don't deny you know what Pedro said about, you know,
Club Mona and that sort of thing. What's the other
one that lives and you know these type of places.

Speaker 12 (38:33):
I'm not denying that. You know, you got to have
the bottle girl type of thing.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
And all that.

Speaker 12 (38:37):
I'm not denying that. But that's not the norm. There's
a reason why, for example, live in Mona.

Speaker 31 (38:42):
They're in Miami, and there's a reason for it because
that's a very touristy type of area. That's not the
rest of the country. That's not even Hollywood. Like I said,
Brad Pitt all sorts nigger. They got with women that
were like themselves.

Speaker 12 (38:56):
So I think it's a much more constructive.

Speaker 31 (38:59):
I get it, it's very exciting and there's a lot
of you generate a lot of emotion and all the
rest of it.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
But I think it's much more constructive. It's more boring,
it is, it's not as much sizzle with it.

Speaker 31 (39:11):
But I think it's more constructive in the long term
to have more constructive dialogue about how black people can
maximize assortative media.

Speaker 12 (39:22):
Get with someone that is like you, looks like you,
sounds like you, has similar education to you, similar interest
to you. That's how you do it. It's much better
in the long run.

Speaker 31 (39:36):
You have less divorce, less cheating, less marital strife, less
money troubles, less disagreement, less unhappiness. You just do better
across the board when you get with someone who's like you.

Speaker 18 (39:54):
Atlas, these are just men I know that that have women. Biggie,
do y'all you and your your mate, did y'all look alike?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
All that conjections.

Speaker 19 (40:06):
The reason I don't know the reason why you know
he left out one big caveat. I left out one
big caveat right. The reason why is looking like because
they got the same surgeon, they eat the same fucking food. Yeah,
they got the same fucking botoxs. If you thought on
the Swartz the nigga didn't get botox, just crazy. If
you think Brad fit and Asland and Zoe Lee ain't

(40:27):
went to the same fucking then it's the same fucking
surgery for their face and nose. And we talked about
people they got massive surgery. Right sting to the factory,
go down to the Amazon warehouse and I want you
to talk to big that's over. Yeah, shout out to

(40:48):
like his wife.

Speaker 21 (40:49):
Shout out to the natural leases and those of us
that actually put in the work. I don't know who
needs to hear this, but predicting what a person is
going to do to you, or creating a narrative that
hasn't happened yet based on how a person looks, how
much they make, just any of those stereotypes before getting
to know someone based on their gender, That self is

(41:12):
self sabotage, and it's a trauma response. They're not the
person who hurt you, so yeah, just just clean that up. Yeah,
I'm setting love and lights.

Speaker 18 (41:22):
Can y'all answer the prime?

Speaker 12 (41:24):
Do you and your look alike?

Speaker 34 (41:29):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Y'all, because.

Speaker 18 (41:36):
What happens.

Speaker 16 (41:39):
We're not in the same.

Speaker 14 (41:43):
We need to tell somebody's wild work.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
We can't tell.

Speaker 10 (41:48):
Yeah, who deserves fool like? That's crazy when people do that.

Speaker 18 (41:52):
I give you one second. I would like to finish
because I was interrupted when I was asking my question, and.

Speaker 23 (42:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (42:00):
I thought I talked pretty loud. This is crazy. No, okay,
So if you don't what happens when you get divorced? Right,
does your new spouse be like, oh, you look like
your X?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
You know?

Speaker 18 (42:13):
Is that a point of contention if you're if you
look like your partner? I do believe, and I have read.
I'm just joking, but you know, the longer you are together,
the more you start to look alike, and you know,
your mannerisms are the same. But I don't know. I
just wonder what happens when you get divorced, Like, now,
do you not look like the other person? You look

(42:35):
like the new person? I don't know, Thank you.

Speaker 13 (42:41):
There's certain people that come from you know, we would
say they from the same tribe. They got the same
shaped heads, same shaped chin. You know, they they're similar.
But yeah, that's well, yeah, that's that's the kind of
sort of thing.

Speaker 31 (42:58):
But what I'm talking about it is like actual scientific research,
and it's it's not really a matter of debate except
within the black community. Everybody yells pretty much is a
settled matter. That assortate of mating is like very robust.
But it seems that for some reason in online black
for lack of a better way of putting it, black

(43:20):
love discourse, there's a lot of visceral reaction to the
idea that you make with someone who's who's more like you,
not less like you, and not just in terms of
look come about Like the brother mentioned earlier, they're eating
the same food. Yeah, you you don't want to be
a vegan getting with somebody that really likes you know,
text makes barbecue.

Speaker 12 (43:38):
It won't work, not long term. You want to get
with someone who's like you a vegan.

Speaker 31 (43:43):
Why that is so difficult to accept in black love
circles is fascinating to me that.

Speaker 33 (43:51):
I have I have heard I'll be honest, I have
heard people say that when I show them me and
my wife that we do look alike. And when when
when me are saying this, it's not like, well, you
can look on psychology today there is like a nine
a nine reason, you know, dialogue on why this is
a thing. And it's prevalent enough for for psychology if
they even do a piece on I think piece on it.

(44:13):
But not just that when we say like looking like
I'm not saying one to one like we're twins. No, no, no,
But even I point this out with my wife and
her friends, and I think you see the same thing.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
What your friends even think about it.

Speaker 33 (44:26):
My wife is a brown skin woman, medium bill five
five six, with I'm explaining why she she's brown skin,
medium bill five five six with locks. Her best friend
five brown skin, medium bill, brown skin, uh with locks,

(44:51):
her mentor looks the same.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
As it's a thing.

Speaker 26 (44:55):
Even even to an.

Speaker 33 (44:56):
Extent, my friends look like me. Where all we have beards,
we're brown skin. I don't really have too much variation,
like really almost no variation.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So it is a thing.

Speaker 8 (45:07):
I'm not saying that applies.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
To everybody's relationship, but if you look this up, it
is a thing, especially when y'all start dressing alike to Jarvis.

Speaker 16 (45:16):
Matching outfits and ship.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
If I don't want, if I don't want wearing ship together.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
I will say this.

Speaker 18 (45:26):
And Devin and y'all talking about black people contending with
psychology today, they should the a p A issued an apology.
I know y'all not in the field. That's probably why
y'all don't know. But the a p A issued an
apology to black people during George Floyd because the research

(45:47):
was done on white men in the d S M.

Speaker 34 (45:50):
Five.

Speaker 18 (45:51):
So a lot of your symptoms, a lot of your
diagnoses is was based on white men. Right, So that
apology that was, and so it is right for black
people to question and women to question what is in
psychology today that research because it was not geared or

(46:11):
designed with us in mind. I just want to drop
that in there.

Speaker 11 (46:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (46:15):
Yeah, I mean, I'm nigga.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Point is, we have a hard time of grant on
what objective reality is.

Speaker 27 (46:23):
If we had a table, if we had a discussion
about the speed of light, that would be contentious for
whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
We just not even just on this, just on a lot.

Speaker 26 (46:32):
Of other topics.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
We just don't agree on objective reality.

Speaker 27 (46:34):
I think that's what we keep going around and around
on a lot of these topics.

Speaker 18 (46:37):
I don't agree there, so I will ask this if
men are oh, well, go ahead, honey. I talked already.

Speaker 22 (46:51):
Oh nah, Jack, I want you to go out.

Speaker 16 (46:54):
But that was just me exhaling because I was swallowing
the stupid.

Speaker 18 (47:01):
You needed to release. Okay, So my question for those
of you that are married, that are husbands and wives
or in a serious relationship. You know, I got my
white man, so I'm good.

Speaker 12 (47:17):
What hello?

Speaker 18 (47:19):
So my question is it's like, did you feel that
your spouse or your significant of other did you leverage things?
And did you feel that they leverage What did they
leverage and what did you leverage to get to love?

Speaker 8 (47:41):
I don't know. Mine is a sex doll, absolutely and chat.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
That's why I tried to give women the I tried
to give women a leverage in this conversation.

Speaker 8 (47:50):
No, but but I hate having to go this duration.
But y'all keep proving it. The more y'all talk about this,
I feel like it might be something with age.

Speaker 33 (48:00):
And that's the reason why y'all think this way, because
I didn't have shit deliverage with my wife.

Speaker 8 (48:04):
She'd have shit the liverage with me. We were young,
in our twenties.

Speaker 26 (48:07):
How we had was love.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
I have a lover. Like I said, when she was
a Red Bulls girl and I was fucking a fork
Clive driver. We ain't have shit, no fucking leverage.

Speaker 11 (48:16):
I like to us.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
She liked me.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
We saw each other every day, and that's just how
it turned out.

Speaker 33 (48:20):
I think now I'm not a tooth in my thirty
late thirties or in her late thirties, I could see
how she would need a person to have something for
a relationship to be all. But we didn't have to
think about that back then. So I think this is
an age thing. We all think liverage is so prevalent.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I don't believe so.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
I think people getting together because they love each other.
But okay, was it love.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Or was it?

Speaker 10 (48:49):
Or was it or was it.

Speaker 16 (48:52):
Y'all fulfilled each other's need?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Die what bro y'all don't y'all don't hear me over here?
Excuse me?

Speaker 16 (49:12):
Diego?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Can you come in?

Speaker 35 (49:15):
Brothers?

Speaker 12 (49:16):
How are you to?

Speaker 8 (49:18):
I got a haircut?

Speaker 4 (49:19):
You love you?

Speaker 12 (49:21):
Cut, I love you.

Speaker 34 (49:22):
I'm gonna cut.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
Move out the way.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
Ja.

Speaker 36 (49:28):
I actually have to agree with Jarvis.

Speaker 8 (49:33):
Of course you do what you mean.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
You have to.

Speaker 37 (49:39):
Protect Jarvis not doing that now.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
No, we're definitely not doing that, and move down?

Speaker 35 (49:44):
Who said that I have to agree with Jarvis?

Speaker 38 (49:49):
This is an age thing when I got married, Well, no,
I don't let me get them because I might not
agree with.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Ar Give me a second chat.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
I'm com back to your question.

Speaker 18 (50:02):
And I said that, diego, don't you be trying to
move me down?

Speaker 7 (50:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (50:05):
You gotta go.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
How cool did we just because we just did pop?

Speaker 18 (50:13):
Hollywood? Did you or your or your wife leverage anything
on your journey to love?

Speaker 8 (50:20):
The only thing that was leveraged was my location. So
I lived in the different city, so in order for
me to be with her, I had to move to
where she was at. So I got on the first
thing smoking and got the fuck out of met Look
at me eight and a half years, almost nine years
made all right?

Speaker 27 (50:38):
All that leverage and shit, that is my old nigga shit,
because your niggas is a position where at forty years old,
it don't make sense to deal with no mother ass
nigga and twenty three you can take a chance on
love and if it don't work, you stick out your
years aheadach.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Most of y'all is in these positions.

Speaker 27 (50:53):
Y'all in because love has sailed y'all in so many
ways up until this point.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
So y'all trying to figure out what's the.

Speaker 39 (51:00):
Best moves as far as your future because you have
things now, you have a home, you have investments, you
have you know what I'm saying for one page, hopefully,
but I just thinking to that at at the younger ages,
you're able to take more risks and you're able to
lean on emotions personally, lean on your logic.

Speaker 8 (51:18):
Now a lot of you all the day with logic
in place.

Speaker 27 (51:20):
I'm trying to make the best decision for you, which
is why a lot of the niggas in here saying
I'm straight, a lot of the women in here are
saying I'm cool on the ship too, and then all
of y'all just end up single on club. I was
telling us, how y'all about your war story, or y'all
know what Momia is doing, and y'all don't want women
as far as to be a relationship with anyways, and
y'all just telling us the numbers on why men are failure.

Speaker 31 (51:44):
All right, I'm gonna come back to a personal statement,
but I will say this since my name came up.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Well what you be doing?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, they go jump in right quick before you before
you change it because question Diego is trying to answer.

Speaker 26 (52:02):
But then he got mentioned though, and I got you.

Speaker 27 (52:19):
Hey, guys, the comeclaim is a September in Miami. Mama
will be handlining and bring.

Speaker 18 (52:25):
Okay, y'all chirping, Diego go ahead.

Speaker 38 (52:27):
I was gonna say, Chad, I do think leverage comes
into play. I do agree with Jarvis, but I have
to be very realistic. Even when I was twenty, I
was looking for a very particular type of man, and
I leveraged absolutely everything.

Speaker 36 (52:43):
That I could obtain that man.

Speaker 38 (52:45):
Even when I got married the second time, again I
understood the quality of man I was going for, and
in order for me to compete, I absolutely leveraged everything
I possibly could.

Speaker 15 (52:59):
So I understand where Jarvis is coming from.

Speaker 38 (53:02):
But I don't know if I can one hundred percent agree,
because again, even at twenty, I knew there was a
particular life that I wanted.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
I knew that when I had.

Speaker 38 (53:11):
Children, I needed to be able to be afforded the
ability to stay home with them. So I speak a
certain type of man, and I leveraged any skills I
had as far as what.

Speaker 36 (53:25):
I learned and being a wife to acquire that.

Speaker 26 (53:28):
Man.

Speaker 8 (53:28):
So I do think leverage is acquired.

Speaker 38 (53:30):
I just think when we hear it sometimes it sounds
more sinister than what it may really be, like the
word manipulation.

Speaker 12 (53:36):
But that's all.

Speaker 15 (53:40):
I agree.

Speaker 18 (53:42):
It's on you, mama.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 12 (53:46):
So the thing with me personally is I start ladies first.

Speaker 31 (53:50):
So I've found with a lot of black women is
they don't ask themselves what value am I providing here?

Speaker 4 (53:57):
What? What? What?

Speaker 31 (53:58):
What's the value prop is? I don't think a lot
of black women really think about that. And you know,
you can make a case that's kind of understandable. I'm
a very much a ones and zeros type of guy,
so you know they may not think of mating in
that way. They don't think of in terms of performance
reviews or you know, customer satisfaction. Then you know I can,

(54:20):
I can get it. But I think that that's that's
part of like the tension, you know, the whole you know,
cheesecake factory fifty fifty type of thing. Really, what it
comes down to is, you know, am I worth the
dollar that's being that I'm that I'm you know, kind
of you know, suggesting the ticket price for you know,
on the male side of it, on the black male

(54:41):
side of it, many black men feel a lot of
pressure to you know, meet a standard that you know,
is very difficult for them to meet. So a lot
of black love discourses really comes down to both sides
having a tough time kind of living up to the
expectation of the other. And there's a lady in the

(55:05):
chat room I'm kind of going back and forth with
right now, and she made a fair point that much
of the studies that someone like I would refer to
regarding human mating are focused on white often, not always,
but often college educated people. That's a fair point. And
I retorted by saying, okay, so where are the studies

(55:28):
on human mating coming out of the HBCUs. I haven't
seen much of it. I have my own, you know,
my own thoughts on why that is. But for whatever reason,
there's not much evidence or there's not much research on
these questions coming from black academics, black researchers.

Speaker 12 (55:51):
There's not a lot. There's very little that I've been able.

Speaker 31 (55:55):
To over the past three four or five years that
I've been right actually writing books very little.

Speaker 12 (56:04):
And again I have my own thoughts about that.

Speaker 31 (56:05):
But yeah, my own thinking is that in these kinds
of discussions, many black women, I'm not gonna say, oh,
but many black women just don't think about what value
am I giving many black women.

Speaker 12 (56:17):
I get this sin I'll put it this way. I
get the sense that.

Speaker 31 (56:20):
Many black women think just showing up is enough. And
for a lot of black men, there's the sense that
they're kind of being fleeced.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
You know.

Speaker 40 (56:32):
Me, I got I gotta catch a flight on Wednesday,
and I want to talk before my flight.

Speaker 16 (56:36):
Though, Yeah, go ahead, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 10 (56:39):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Doctor B get up in there, Bro's what's uptack?

Speaker 8 (56:42):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
So I was kind of listening me as my sad brother.

Speaker 40 (56:55):
So I'm at the food with Haitians. I didn't know
Haitians love phantom, but they out here. And what I
didn't know that there was a lot of epidemic of
cross eyed women in the Caribbean.

Speaker 10 (57:06):
But we'll talk about that another time.

Speaker 16 (57:12):
I apologize.

Speaker 10 (57:13):
So and then the funny thing. Let me say one
more funny thing that mistaken.

Speaker 40 (57:15):
So we was on a boat trip on Saturday, and
this fat Nigga tried to dive off the side of
the boat and the boat was slippery, and that nigga fail, y'all.
That nigga hit his leg and fell over. It was
about like an eight foot fall. That nigga fell on
his neck.

Speaker 10 (57:29):
That I laughed.

Speaker 40 (57:32):
Now he was in the water. I couldn't augh in
the face, but it was in the water. I couldn't
get it on video though, that nigga fail.

Speaker 10 (57:40):
To your topic from the last row.

Speaker 40 (57:43):
See, you gotta stop calling ship predatory, like I want
your balls to get taken out of the yard and
somebody put them in. Y'all caught everything predatory And that's
like female logic.

Speaker 10 (57:55):
Tell me, of course, it's about leverage.

Speaker 40 (57:58):
Tell me elsewhere in life we don't fight to gain
leverage where Why is leverage only bad when it comes
to relationships. We want leverage everywhere because that's how you
win negotiations. It's not what you deserve, what you have
the leverage to negotiate. And that's why people are fucked
up because they have no leverage even in relationships.

Speaker 10 (58:18):
Like the person who.

Speaker 40 (58:19):
Said he got something that his girl couldn't afford without him.
That was smart, Like why is that not smart? Because
love has been like matriculated out of equations. Again, like
y'all don't love anybody like y'all y'all describe that y'all,
women describe love right now that y'all don't have in
yall life, Like ain't no nigga giving y'all the love
that y'all described in y'all life. So why y'all describing

(58:39):
the love that y'all don't even experience, which is crazy.
Maybe y'all should move towards the leverage. But again, kind
of to Mama's point, y'all really don't have nothing because
y'all don't really have nothing to negotiate with, Like all
your vestures, you've given away everything good about you, you're
given to somebody else. Like everybody's a used product right now.
There are no more new cars in the market. Everybody's
a used car. But you want new car prices, and

(59:01):
niggas ain't trying to pay that. Or women for the
most part, Again, y'all y'all so worried about love until uh,
let me strike that women don't care about love when
men talk about love, right, because don't they say marriage
is a business.

Speaker 10 (59:14):
It takes more than love.

Speaker 40 (59:15):
I've heard this so many times now when men kind
of say, okay, cool, like now it's about business and leverage.

Speaker 10 (59:20):
Well, well, what y.

Speaker 40 (59:21):
Y'all buying for y'all buying love? Y'all don't want love,
But y'all gott to pick a side, which one is it?
It's love a factor or not because men are kind
of figuring out where to go, and it's like this
gup with us niggas, like, Okay, I'm gonna get in there, dope,
get in there, get in there, Like love is not
even in the equation anymore. Shout out to you, I
need love. Cooj love a boy ass niggas. But for
the most part, like y'all are buying love, everybody is

(59:41):
because that's the game. Were in there, even you marry folks.
Stop doing your job at a husband. See how fast
that wife stays right? Stop stop doing your husbandly do this?
Stop paying the bills right right, stop providing, stop protecting.
Watch how fast you go? So you you paying the
same way, just in a different world. You may not
be well, and you are, and you gotta catch them.
You gotta provide and protect and cash out. Then y'all

(01:00:04):
suck fat like sucks.

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
You gotta do.

Speaker 40 (01:00:07):
You got a trick and provide and protect. Niggas who
regular trick don't gotta provide. They don't gotta protect the
tricks exactly. It's cash out. I don't gotta protect you, y'all.
Niggas gotta be willing to die for the chick and
pay for damn. That's a bad that's a bad y'all
lost the leverage. That's a bad deal. That's a very
bad deal.

Speaker 10 (01:00:22):
I don't know, chat. Maybe people aren't dropping off a
good pin.

Speaker 22 (01:00:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 40 (01:00:25):
I don't I don't deal with men, so you would
have to describe that like are you getting good pen?
Are y'all women getting good pen?

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Y'all?

Speaker 10 (01:00:30):
I don't think y'all would be as angry.

Speaker 40 (01:00:32):
I'm not saying you, I'm just saying in general, like
I don't know, like if y'all, if y'all getting good
pen and as a collective, then y'all shouldn't be as
angry as y'all.

Speaker 10 (01:00:41):
That's way too much vitrioll.

Speaker 40 (01:00:43):
And argumentativeness when y'all ain't becoming the organ like y'a
ain't got no they ain't got no let chack y'all
ain't been let shaint.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
It's too much arguing at nine in the morning. You
ain't let shade, right.

Speaker 40 (01:00:53):
So I don't know about that. But again, everybody should
look for leverage. Women, you should look for leverage. It's
not it's not a bad thing. Men you should too.
The only people who complain about leverage is the one
who don't have it. So look forward, try the way
to find a way to find that somebody who gives
you leverage, take it. That's a better situation for you.
Are going, you know, operating out a deficit and lose,
because that's what losers do.

Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
I'd rather win.

Speaker 41 (01:01:13):
Hey, I feel like you know, today women use love
to manipulate men to give them leverage against the men.

Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
So that's how it is at times.

Speaker 18 (01:01:25):
Wait wait, women, okay, women use love?

Speaker 41 (01:01:29):
What women use love as a form to manipulate the
men into giving them leverage.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
I know that's gonna go over a couple of yard hands.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
It's gonna have to let that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I'm not looking at the stage, but that is that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Speaking?

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
Is that him?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
I knew what I knew, what the dogfucker and.

Speaker 41 (01:02:00):
Put some respect to Silicon Simon's name. I said at
her hand and slappy with it.

Speaker 18 (01:02:11):
Okay, I said that at the top of the room.

Speaker 8 (01:02:18):
Damn chests.

Speaker 18 (01:02:20):
Sorry, okay, yeah, doctor B I said that at the
top of the room. Like they're like, people are leveraging, leveraging,
you know whatever, those those skills are, right, People leverage,
you know, men leverage money. Women leverage looks right, and

(01:02:40):
people see that as negative. But that's literally how we're wired, right,
Like you also leveraged. Delvin and I were talking about
He was talking about his wife making gumbo. Women also
leverage like cooking skills, right, if you're a good cook,
if you can keep a great yeah, like you know
what I'm saying, I'll be having the happen cooking skills

(01:03:01):
because they get crazy after you give them, you cook them,
you know, you give them some food and some cookies.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
Hello.

Speaker 18 (01:03:07):
Well, I think that leveraging doesn't to the Egles point.
I do believe that leveraging isn't always negative. And I
wanted to give you all, and I know this might
be triggering when I say this, but I wanted to
give you all the definition, okay, of leverage, and it
is a noun and a verb. The noun is the

(01:03:33):
well I'm not gonna read that one to use something
to maximize advantage, right, It is also the power to
influence a person or a situation to achieve a particular outcome.
The power to influence a person or a situation to

(01:03:57):
achieve a particular outcome? Is that not dating? Aren't you
trying to.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
Give you hella hella pushback?

Speaker 19 (01:04:07):
Uh?

Speaker 33 (01:04:08):
Dah God, I can't watch you come off, Mike, because
I'm gonna use to the reasoning if y'all believe, because
I don't believe this, If y'all believe that people are
leaning on leverage, then I'm gonna conclude. And you could
tell me if I'm wrong that people are dating with intentions,
and I know I hear y'all go against that all the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Time, so.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
Intention they would have better results.

Speaker 42 (01:04:33):
If you're dating with leverage, you're going in the situations
where this ship wouldn't end as much as it does
for the niggas that they keeps having for like, how
are you dating with leverage and intentions for all your
relationships fail and you still a single of forty five.

Speaker 18 (01:04:48):
Because you're not leveraging? Because it's an equality. But I
was reading.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Non se how don't be unfair not to be I'm
asking I.

Speaker 10 (01:05:04):
Don't know how, like, how do relationship? Okay, so y'all
don't want me to be smart, I'll be dumb. No no, no, no, no, no,
go back to what I said.

Speaker 33 (01:05:13):
I said that if y'all are saying that most people
are using leverage, which I don't agree with, then I'm
going to conclude that people are using their leverage intentionally.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
So are y'all saying that people are dating intention It was.

Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
But I don't know you?

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Sorry, gotcha? Oh no, no, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
No.

Speaker 38 (01:05:33):
I was just gonna say, I do believe people are
dating with intention, but we hear intention and assume the
intention of marriage. My intention could be to waste your time.
My intention could be to just use you. My intention
could be to just have sex with you. My intention
could be anything. So, yes, people are definitely dating with intention,
we just can't assume that intention is marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Hold on, real quick, real quick, just real quick to
the diego saying that intention and people's intentions can be shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They can be good. You just got to watch out
who you're pouring into. So diego.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I like the fact you said that because everybody has
an intention. It's up to you to date that person
to see if it's good or if it's going to
be bad. Let's continue to ship topic change in about
five minutes, three minutes, let's go.

Speaker 18 (01:06:18):
I just wanted to read the definition again because I
don't like, I don't know Jarvis.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I love you.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
What you three?

Speaker 18 (01:06:27):
It's not a long definition, but you know, okay. The
power to influence a part you and doctor be a bossy.
Let me say that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
What we're doing.

Speaker 32 (01:06:42):
Dollar bossy.

Speaker 18 (01:06:45):
Your manhood to tell me what leveraging your tell me
what's doing to be bossy?

Speaker 12 (01:06:56):
But the definition.

Speaker 18 (01:07:00):
That's now my white man. I'm listened. He can boss
me around all day. Shout out to that white king. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Uh.

Speaker 37 (01:07:11):
The power to.

Speaker 18 (01:07:12):
Influence a person or a situation to achieve a particular outcome,
or using something to maximize an advantage. Thank you?

Speaker 10 (01:07:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 40 (01:07:25):
Like women, like, what is courtship? Is you trying to
use leverage? Like when you expect to be courted?

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
That is leverage?

Speaker 40 (01:07:31):
You think because he wants access to you, he got
to do a certain level of tricks. That is you
leveraging his desire for access to you. Y'all understand leverage
when it benefits y'all. Y'all just don't want it when
it doesn't, and they use love to manipulate.

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
With that intentionship.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I feel in I feel into the trap of thinking
that people always have good into like I often do.

Speaker 8 (01:08:06):
So I did conceive I conceive it to that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:08):
Yeah, Jarvis, what do they say?

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
The road is held the good.

Speaker 26 (01:08:14):
Exactly?

Speaker 40 (01:08:15):
Nobody has good. Everybody gets in relationships to benefit themselves well.

Speaker 10 (01:08:19):
For the most part. Women definitely do men due to
a degree, and I wish more men would.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Men.

Speaker 40 (01:08:23):
It's like men are afraid to do that because they've
been conditioned not to think in terms of themselves. They
listen to the niggas on Clubhouse, be like, you're not
a man if you don't slave and drive a jackhammer
for eighty seven hours straight for a woman who don't
got eighty seven other niggas and you number eighty eight.

Speaker 10 (01:08:40):
Like that's what men do. We'll go out there and
be like, you know what, she's not a virgin, she
has other niggas kids, but don't die for her. That's
what you should. The niggas who got kids with her
didn't die for her, but you should.

Speaker 40 (01:08:49):
You want to be a man and niggas believe that shit,
and women be like, okay, cool, Well now he's stupid,
so I can leverage his stupidity against him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Like we all do this.

Speaker 10 (01:08:58):
Even on clubhouse.

Speaker 40 (01:08:59):
We leverage our popular are, our connections, other people on
stage withlivers, the green bee, I get. We do this
in every aspect of life. We use leverage. I don't
know why we don't do it in relationships.

Speaker 10 (01:09:09):
It's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Listen now, doctor b you've been going in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
If you guys are just now joined, we've been talking
about love and leverage. I think we killed that topic.
Diego Jarvis chat, doctor Vaughn, everyone on the stage. We
killed that shit. Now I want to talk about something else.
Our most couples together out of comfort or passion. Before
you guys even hop off the mic and talk about

(01:09:34):
this ship, we need to ping this room up. Let's
go on to ping party for about a couple of minutes.
Right ping this shit up. Let's go up gender walls.
We're on the wall floor. Don't fuck around. Also, check
out the lead partnership I got too. Let's turn it up.

Speaker 16 (01:09:51):
Been want your bread.

Speaker 19 (01:09:57):
You can't even lieut'n out at binning first I can guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
You if your mind cash, you got every.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Bad you can imagine, big house.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I can really keep bragging a hundred thousand in my
mouthee was saying, and not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
The big cheep doesn't embarrassing.

Speaker 8 (01:10:09):
He ain't me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You can keep it.

Speaker 43 (01:10:10):
Get passed my fish probably want to another bad girls
turn it into a sack.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
And this betch you got her problem in traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
We can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Imagine you wagging low key.

Speaker 11 (01:10:18):
I've been keeping it cast.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
It could be ready y'all.

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
Here doing them that niggas couldn't even see me in
last year.

Speaker 19 (01:10:23):
Just started in them niggas in the last I ain't
even try to in a pass from giving Look, I
cantribute the fashion trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Something I've been giving them cash. Hit on alone that
you're readul to rap rap right now, car, it's all easy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Come to one ring.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
You ain't got over.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Hurry, you don't care abash your boyfriend, see me, ain't
getting nervous.

Speaker 27 (01:10:39):
I damn that did it perfect, work hard under the time, man,
And it's safe to say I under that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Well, none of you guys get cashed me.

Speaker 19 (01:10:48):
Well, matter of fact, none of you guys get caytash
me well post my trip, or they leave just so
they can see quote turn me or some more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Somebody don't be better? Wake your gass up? So fuck
wake up?

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Are most couples together out of comfort or fucking passion?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Ping it up?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
You see the arrow at the bottom, Take that arrow
and push that shit out to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Because we've got a new topic on here. I want
you all to chip into this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Doctor Vaughan, Chad, Albert Diego, Jarvis, Matt Stunner, Yay, listen.
Are most couples together out of comfort or passion? I
feel like people settle. Oh I'm comfortable with this person.
This motherfucker could be ugliest shit. You don't give a
fuck because you're settling. You're comfortable. You understand this person could.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Be bad for you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Oh man, I don't knowll This the only person that
came to me, right, So what the fuck is going on?
Are most couples together out of comfort or passion?

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Floor open? Let's go.

Speaker 18 (01:11:54):
Well, if most women aren't orgasming, it probably is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Oh hold on, chat what the hold.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Hold him on?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
What do you what do you mean by that?

Speaker 10 (01:12:05):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 18 (01:12:06):
That's what they said, do you mean by that?

Speaker 7 (01:12:08):
That's what they said on this app.

Speaker 18 (01:12:11):
They said that most women aren't orgasm, so then it
definitely wouldn't be passionate because you know, pop pop got ed.
I don't know.

Speaker 38 (01:12:22):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 18 (01:12:24):
I'm just going by what I heard on this app.
Maybe maybe I shouldn't have said the.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Wow, Chad, do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
You go do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
What is going on with Chad?

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
What is she talking about?

Speaker 38 (01:12:35):
I think Chad has a point. I agree with the chat.
I agree with the chat. The Chad said the most
people are together because they can't afford rental oh ship.
I think this is true. I think this is true
for a lot of people. It's unfortunate. I know doctor

(01:12:55):
b said they need to just down downsize. I don't
know if it's not easy for them, but I think
that's why a lot of people are together.

Speaker 8 (01:13:04):
It's sad. I don't know if they're comfortable.

Speaker 38 (01:13:06):
I don't know how comfortable you are living with somebody
you can't say or that you don't want to be
with anymore. You can't have company over and just over there,
sneaking around with your snacks.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Yeah, doctor Vaughn said that they're together out of survival?
How do you guys feel about that? Thank you for
putting that in a chat? Doctor Parr to people put
together out of survival?

Speaker 8 (01:13:27):
How a y'all feeling if they're leveraging things to get
into these relationships? How could it be passion?

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
M M.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
I don't think that you can really say I'm doing
this and.

Speaker 27 (01:13:39):
I'm being very intentful and I'm looking for something and
I'm going that way, and then it be out of
passion because those you just don't mess.

Speaker 8 (01:13:49):
How are you intentionally passionate? You know what I'm saying?
Or niggas is full of shit? Nderful?

Speaker 18 (01:14:00):
So are you saying that?

Speaker 16 (01:14:02):
I don't know if I.

Speaker 10 (01:14:02):
Agree with this?

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
Sorry?

Speaker 10 (01:14:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeall be talking.

Speaker 40 (01:14:08):
I don't know. Like I wish y'all didn't have so
much experience with ED niggas. I want better for y'all.
I'm gonna go to a pandomanian medicine woman and see
if I can find y'all, like an herbal remedy for
you'll boyfriends who have ED that y'all dealing with.

Speaker 10 (01:14:22):
I didn't know women that with ED this much with me.

Speaker 40 (01:14:26):
Like, I don't like, why don't y'all leave, but anyway,
So I don't agree with this because I don't think
it's out of survival. Most people can y'all could be
on clubhouse all day. You can afford a one bedroom.
It's not that you got an iPhone like the new one.
You can afford the one bedroom. You don't need to

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leak it up with somebody because you can't afford it
for the most part, like most people should.

Speaker 10 (01:14:50):
Be able at least listen to y'all talk, unless y'all
be lying.

Speaker 40 (01:14:53):
Like I think y'all are, and wh y'all say, y'all
rich and y'all not shout to me understand economicsy But again,
I think most people, hey right here, I think most
people can like.

Speaker 10 (01:15:03):
Afford a born bedrooms.

Speaker 40 (01:15:03):
So I don't think people are like shacking up for
like survival out of like rent. I do think people
are leaking up because they can't afford. They can't afford
much more than just to be broken, Like they make
enough just to be broke. Now, I mean y'all living
in New York in LA. No one told y'all to
pay four thousands for a closet. Y'all got the right
to be stupid because this is America. But like, go

(01:15:24):
ahead and do that, go ahead and do that. So
shout out to y'all dummies who can't afford LA and
New York that still live there. Like I think y'all stupid.
I think y'all a fucking idiots. If you can't afford LA, Like,
if you can't afford somewhere, leave leave it. You paying
thirty five hundred for a sink at a closet, that's
your fault.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Leave go elsewhere.

Speaker 40 (01:15:43):
But yeah, I definitely think it's out of comfort. I
think the passion's definitely gone. The married people, people in
relationships on clubhouse. I don't think y'all happy because y'all
spend all day long talking to the people that y'all
think are single, all day long, like lecturing them, telling
them what they should do. We don't even know if
you'll have or really a partner or not. Like we

(01:16:05):
ain't seen a picture, we ain't heard their name, nothing.
We're just supposed to just take your face value. You
got somebody, okay?

Speaker 8 (01:16:10):
Cool?

Speaker 40 (01:16:11):
Is there any documentation anywhere? Like can you send a
picture to diego of y'all together smiling out of eat?

Speaker 10 (01:16:17):
I remember what We did that with and.

Speaker 26 (01:16:20):
I told j T.

Speaker 10 (01:16:21):
You ain't got no nigga.

Speaker 40 (01:16:22):
Send a picture of your nigga right now that she
sent a picture from two years ago, because I had
seen the picture, so I knew that. So I'm like, look,
and then she was like nah, Like again, I'm gonna
go on a date with my nigga. Send a picture
to night that was two weeks ago. We ain't seen

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that picture since.

Speaker 10 (01:16:46):
We knew that. That's the easiest thing to say, is
I got somebody. Just prove it, like Diego's IG's attached.

Speaker 40 (01:16:55):
Send your photo to Diego and let us see if
you got a person. But you're not gonna do that
because we don't know y'all got a person. Say're definitely
out of comfort because right now y'all not comfortable.

Speaker 10 (01:17:05):
Y'all not comfortable, and y'all want to be.

Speaker 40 (01:17:06):
Y'all want somebody to love and rub your head and
tell you it's how good and you did good and
you got your degree and good job when you wrote
your your ebook and good job and all that stuff
you rubbed your head, Yeah, good job.

Speaker 10 (01:17:17):
You're a good person.

Speaker 40 (01:17:18):
You are smart, You as kind. You is not what
you say and the help you is naive. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's why y'all in relationships for that. And again,
I bring y'all spouses on here, bring y'all girlfriends and boyfriends.

Speaker 10 (01:17:35):
I want to just bring them. Send the picture to
diego one of the two. It's one of the two.

Speaker 40 (01:17:39):
Let's let's prove everybody got somebody and then we can
have a conversation about a career. Otherwise we all just
kind of line to each other. But yeah, now stack
the passion definitely gone. But these people are still mad.
They're way too mad to be passionate. They looking for
somebody to be passionate with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Oh my women having doctor B's in here kicking the
motherfucking table over and the gender most couples together out
of comfort or passion chat back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Let's go.

Speaker 18 (01:18:06):
Yeah, it's anger passion because I think sometimes yeah, some
people think anger is passed like, oh no, I'm not angry,
I'm just passionate.

Speaker 8 (01:18:20):
We've heard this, right, So you're with somebody writer, what.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Now you know it's crazy chat? You said that because
it was somebody trying to come at MoMA on my stage.
He was talking passionately to the woman and she's like, well,
just relax me. It's like, I'm passionate, you relax, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Some people can mistake that for anger, but he was.
He was really passionate.

Speaker 31 (01:18:43):
Thought goes right to doctor Bee's point that woman was
attempting to dodge to the exact same thing that doctor
Bee was talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:18:52):
There are not all, not all, but there are.

Speaker 31 (01:18:55):
I have observed black women on social media who do this.
They will to try to, you know, dodge around. You know,
just show us the receipts. If you got a man,
show us the receipts. It's just very simple. Just show
us the receipt They never do it, and she couldn't
do it. She could not answer my question, Okay, what

(01:19:16):
do you get with a wife in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 12 (01:19:19):
She couldn't answer the question because she already knew what
the answer was. Nothing.

Speaker 31 (01:19:23):
So that's the reason why she deflected to why you
so passionate? Everybody else that day heard exactly what I said.
Matter of fact, several brothers was like, yeah, you got
a point. They actually said it. So it's like, no sense,
just say it. Why can't you just say I offer nothing?

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Why is that so hard?

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
Sex doll has more to offer.

Speaker 44 (01:19:45):
Wait, and it's always it's always the women who don't
want to do that, who want to speak so much when.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
It pertains to relationships.

Speaker 22 (01:19:53):
I find that ironical, as will what do you mean?

Speaker 37 (01:19:58):
Uh, well, we have a.

Speaker 45 (01:19:59):
Conver stations about relationships.

Speaker 44 (01:20:02):
The women with no men want to talk for five
hours and sixty four minutes so uh, but they never
can pt artist man that other women are supposed to have,
or you know, follow her instructures on finding they.

Speaker 45 (01:20:20):
Don't have the same said men. Way about the men
to fact, because.

Speaker 18 (01:20:30):
When we had either I agree with you, actually, sir,
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Uh.

Speaker 45 (01:20:40):
That's why I have had to put it in my bio.

Speaker 44 (01:20:42):
Don't ping me into no relationship role because it's been
five years and I'm honestly tired of it.

Speaker 18 (01:20:52):
Ye y'all don't want to see my white man in me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Y'all.

Speaker 10 (01:20:55):
Don't you no got one?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Is he giving you more than?

Speaker 18 (01:21:01):
That's my business? Okay?

Speaker 25 (01:21:10):
And then they been there.

Speaker 18 (01:21:17):
Well, because I do think though, that women leverage their
emotions two kind of And I saw this last night, right,
you know, women will engage in a dialogue with with people,
right'll they do this to women and men. But they'll

(01:21:39):
they'll get in the dialogue and when they're losing, well,
I guess I'll say men do this to people do this.
But when they're losing the argument, right then sometimes women
will use their femininity right well, And then they started
doing the Karen thing. We have karens at the white
ways down the car, Yeah, the caring stuff like as

(01:22:03):
soon as you you know, we've seen these Karen videos.
These white women walk up to you know, a black
man or a black person and exactly are you supposed
to be here?

Speaker 15 (01:22:17):
Are you supposed to be here?

Speaker 18 (01:22:18):
In the moment that you respond, then it's oh.

Speaker 46 (01:22:21):
My god, exact after the damn fool stan oh golling
the police, help help me.

Speaker 18 (01:22:32):
Now you want to be a helpless woman, but you
were bold as ship walking up to that man telling
him where he was supposed to be or where he
wasn't supposed to be. So I think that sometimes that,
you know, I think that's manipulation. I think or what
do y'all think about people that that leverage to manipulate?
Do we think that sometimes leverage is manipulation?

Speaker 41 (01:23:00):
I mean leverage, I mean leverage can be a form
of manipulation. But like I said before, people use love
as a form of manipulating, you know, to like fool
people to like give them leverage, like, Oh, I love you,
I'm gonna give you all my money, I'm gonna sign
everything to you.

Speaker 8 (01:23:18):
Then what happens next, Oh, divorce.

Speaker 41 (01:23:21):
They put false allegations and everything, and the guy ended
up losing everything. So yeah, people use love as a
form of leverage and all of that stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:23:31):
So I'm still leaving right there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
HD.

Speaker 16 (01:23:37):
What do you just say?

Speaker 21 (01:23:38):
Bo?

Speaker 16 (01:23:42):
You didn't hear what I said or.

Speaker 41 (01:23:51):
What I said is that you though some people use
love as a form of leverage, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
To like manipulate the y'all. Don't get back to the
motherfucking topic. Bro, get back to the topic. AHD, Bro,
that's just crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:24:12):
I thought it was crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
Understand it definitely was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
But yeah, I'm sorry to ask you guys, chat asked
you all that. But I want to talk about most
couples together, how to comfort a passion and logant?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Can you jump in there for me and then we
can continue.

Speaker 47 (01:24:28):
To do I have absolutely no idea because how would
I know?

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
Am I like.

Speaker 47 (01:24:34):
Walking up to people and asking all they together how
to comfort the passion I mean when you get when
you meet somebody, you love them, of course.

Speaker 12 (01:24:40):
It's gonna be passion.

Speaker 47 (01:24:41):
But as the relationship evolves, passion not gonna be number one.
You might go through ship in life with your significant other,
one might get thick. If your significant other is thick,
where the passion gonna be? You think about them so
they can get better. Y'all working together? So you know,
I don't know, this is a question I really can't answer.

Speaker 18 (01:25:01):
Are black people ever really comfortable?

Speaker 16 (01:25:03):
Mmm?

Speaker 35 (01:25:04):
Chat not really get into it?

Speaker 12 (01:25:07):
Yeah, let's talk about that.

Speaker 37 (01:25:10):
I'm on, Jay, wake it up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Let's wake it up. Then, Jay explain that.

Speaker 37 (01:25:14):
If you looking over to see someone else's grasp and
you're not comfortable, and that's all up to you.

Speaker 10 (01:25:26):
Can we define what comfort is? Because I'm very comfortable, right, yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:25:31):
Definition?

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I'm I'm not even mad at people being to get
out of comfort, Like it's not a kind of say
of word. So even if if people were to get
out of comfort, like, what's the big conference? What if
the comfortability is just over rules everything else?

Speaker 16 (01:25:45):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Like what if you're just comfortable this? Do you just settling?

Speaker 26 (01:25:48):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
You know what I mean? Let's think about that, Like,
what if they just settling?

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Bro?

Speaker 16 (01:25:51):
This is okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I'm comfortable, Bro, I'm here, I put up with ship,
I tolerate shit. I'm comfortable, Bro. Like, don't you feel
like that's you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Red flag?

Speaker 28 (01:25:59):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Just to be comfortable with some shot, settle for some ship?

Speaker 10 (01:26:01):
How do we know they said those?

Speaker 37 (01:26:04):
See that's the problem though, So people, if people aren't
comfortable or not. You know, everybody's saying comfortable like it's
a bad thing. It's really not. But if you're not
comfortable with what she got, then that's how we get
these people always going out trying to find other people
and cheating on each other. That's that's the problem. So
are we going to be comfortable or are we going
to just be always trying to look for someone better?

(01:26:26):
Quote unquote.

Speaker 13 (01:26:29):
Why wouldn't be comfortable? Why wouldn't I be comfortable with?
Why wouldn't you be comfortable with the person that?

Speaker 37 (01:26:37):
You know what I'm saying, that was what we should
strike people aren't.

Speaker 8 (01:26:50):
Yeah, I ain't pay.

Speaker 10 (01:26:56):
They hear me, Okay, they heard me? Yeah, like stacks
something about settling.

Speaker 40 (01:27:02):
Most people aren't settling because we don't frame what selling
actually is. Y'all think selling is not getting what y'all want.
That that's not settling. Settling is when you have two options,
you take the lesser one. Y'all don't have the other
options to not take the lesson the lesser ones your
only option. Well, what y'all considered the less options? You're
on the option, like, if you had a better option,

(01:27:22):
you would have took it. I don't think any of
y'all would have a job that pays y'all two hundred thousand, y'all,
but you know what, now, let me take this job
to pay forty y'all not gonna do that.

Speaker 10 (01:27:31):
So y'all don't have the other options. So again, in
this context, y'all not settling.

Speaker 40 (01:27:35):
Y'all don't have the options to determine whether or not
one's good or one's better. Again, post your nigga ain't
got one, So how you settling? You ain't got a niggay?

Speaker 18 (01:27:47):
Isn't that settling?

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Though?

Speaker 10 (01:27:49):
No, women are confusing.

Speaker 40 (01:27:55):
Women are confused as to what settling is. Y'all been
conditioned to think settling is not getting what I want.
That's the first thing I said, means you have you have? Yeah,
I don't care what you think, for go on you.
So settling is when you.

Speaker 10 (01:28:09):
Have two options and you take the lesselne.

Speaker 8 (01:28:13):
Yeah, y'all don't y'all don't.

Speaker 10 (01:28:14):
Have two options, no branding right now? Wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait, just.

Speaker 40 (01:28:19):
Please think it so again, y'all don't have the first
option to take the second option. So y'all gotta worry
about getting the first option first because the settle, you
gotta have multiple options.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
And y'all don't. I think single, right, I think.

Speaker 26 (01:28:36):
Why not?

Speaker 12 (01:28:36):
Wait?

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait jay post your nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Interrupted me.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
That's what I'm saying. I think the settling from the
relationship being the worst.

Speaker 27 (01:28:52):
Option because they could be by themselves and that needs
a better option. But they're settling because instead of staying
by themselves, they choose to be in a relationship.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
Which is worse for them.

Speaker 27 (01:29:02):
So I mean, if that's what they're saying, that would
be the only way that that's settling is because saying
single is.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
A better option and they go for the relationship.

Speaker 10 (01:29:11):
How can you set on a singleness you already single?

Speaker 27 (01:29:16):
But when being single is better than being in a
relationship with the nigga, the dad relationship with that.

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
Why they're not the same.

Speaker 10 (01:29:21):
Options you have to the options have to be comparative.
They're not here.

Speaker 27 (01:29:26):
Well, I'm just trying to make sense that this stupid
as should be folks saying, bro, so excuse me.

Speaker 10 (01:29:30):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 26 (01:29:31):
Why are we trying to make lord?

Speaker 27 (01:29:32):
And I don't want to just have y'all don't make
a conversation so I can be doing see this, So
trying to help out, man, you know what I'm saying,
Trying to do what I can and leverage my health.

Speaker 33 (01:29:42):
So I did the lead work and just looked at
the definition and it's no, there's no way that it's
connotative in any in any form. Comfort Number one, it's
a non in the verb. So it's two definitions for
the now a state of a state of physical ease
and freedom from pain or constraint.

Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
Number two, the easing or alleviation of a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Person's feelings of grief or distress, and go to the
verb ease the grief or distress of or console.

Speaker 33 (01:30:16):
I don't see how any of that is negative. So
if a person is they I mean with somebody in
a relationship out of comfort.

Speaker 16 (01:30:23):
Is atual thing though.

Speaker 27 (01:30:25):
Job if your old lady cheating on you, but it's
a lot better for you to stay with her through
the cheat because she paid a mortgage.

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
You are staying in comfort that is not good for me.
I don't get what's so hard to understand?

Speaker 10 (01:30:38):
No, no, have you ever been homeless?

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
So look, but not only that, but that only fixed
one problem, Like, okay, you fix my mortgage problem, but
I'm still getting cheated on, So I'm not.

Speaker 8 (01:30:51):
I'm not comfortable, but say in a.

Speaker 27 (01:30:54):
Verrible spot because of comfort, because the comfort is you
have a place to stay because you would be.

Speaker 8 (01:31:00):
Homeless, and then I would you rather get to be homeless.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
But but but I.

Speaker 8 (01:31:10):
Have you ever slipped outside? Have ever slipped outside? Slipt outside?

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:31:16):
No, no, no no, I have been cheated off?

Speaker 14 (01:31:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:31:19):
Which way you think is worse? If you had to
do both?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Again, they're good. If I'm gonna be honest, I sleep outside.
He was a damn food you crazy fu nigga.

Speaker 35 (01:31:33):
That you can tore me, That ship tore me up.

Speaker 27 (01:31:37):
But if you can't afford to be honest with you
longer than you're gonna feel bad about getting cheated all
laying in the comfortable eating food.

Speaker 8 (01:31:45):
And ship at our house with hole paans.

Speaker 33 (01:31:48):
So solly in this context, in this context of relationship,
I need two things. If you're if you're only providing
one and you completely taking the other one off the table,
time comfortable and in either way got to place the state.
But I can't eat and I can't tut to this
woman because I noticed you're gonna eat like.

Speaker 8 (01:32:08):
A pig over a big ass slump in front of him,
knowing that you got a.

Speaker 27 (01:32:13):
Place to sleep at night when it's hot, the ship
outside the nest, when you outside on the streets, Like,
I don't get why people don't understand niggas staying fuck
and women saying funck the situations because of the comfort.
It's women right now getting their ass what getting cheated
on some more shit, but staying with niggas because of
the lifetime that that nigga provides.

Speaker 8 (01:32:29):
It keeps them comfortable.

Speaker 27 (01:32:32):
You saying you don't get this, and you're saying that
you couldn't eat because you got cheated on, you're still.

Speaker 8 (01:32:36):
Slipping in that house.

Speaker 27 (01:32:38):
If your comfort is more than your current feeling, it's
it's a state of well being, a lot of people
are staying in comfortable situations, still with their life out,
but they're.

Speaker 8 (01:32:47):
Not good for them.

Speaker 27 (01:32:48):
They're just saying because I have money from this person,
or I have a place to live, or I drive
this car because of this person, and if I leave
this person, I have to give all this shit up.
We're just seeing a case in court with Cassie, say,
were died a terrible through all the bullshit because of
the life. There's many saying with comfort because of what
it provides for them outside of all the niggative should

(01:33:09):
they deal with staying there?

Speaker 18 (01:33:11):
Oh Jesus, that sounds miserable. I do think though, like
comfort may be something that's like long suffering, right suffering.
Comfort Comfort to me is more sustainable. Comfortability is more
sustainable than survival. Then it may be passion. Do y'all

(01:33:40):
think that passion is only like in spurts or it's fleeting? Like,
can you sustain passion in a relationship? Can that be sustained?

Speaker 16 (01:33:51):
Y'all? Bold? Y'all have that fire for each other? Though,
chat if.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
It's dead, then it's dead. That ship gotta have fire
for each other. If the if the flame is dead,
if the you know what I mean? If all thatsh
is dead. Is dead because people will show you why
they don't care after a while as well.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
How y'a feel about that? Let's continue?

Speaker 34 (01:34:08):
If if I need to find passion to my penis,
why you always kay?

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
Not as a yay?

Speaker 12 (01:34:23):
Why's it always got to be this sexual ship?

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
I'm a horny horny man.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
No, you gotta team yourself. You gotta control yourself.

Speaker 16 (01:34:33):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Why has it always got to.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Why can't we Why can't we be a conversation?

Speaker 16 (01:34:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Oh now you want to be quiet?

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:34:47):
No, No, you know me.

Speaker 11 (01:34:49):
I'm a joking.

Speaker 26 (01:34:51):
Dog to.

Speaker 8 (01:34:54):
Dogs.

Speaker 16 (01:34:54):
Stay passionate.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
She loves a dog. No, look, I hate you, but
it has to It does.

Speaker 23 (01:35:12):
Take two to tangle. Take two for everything. If I'm
passionate towards you but not receiving it, I'm just making
an ash out of myself. And nine times out of ten,
I don't work put you in a place where we
cannot come back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
You fee trying to stay nine time out of ten.

Speaker 23 (01:35:25):
When that passion get knocked out, it's either I work
it to you to a place where you can't come back,
or what we had in the beginning was just straight
uh infatuation.

Speaker 16 (01:35:35):
With each other.

Speaker 23 (01:35:36):
But for the ones that talk that that talking about
real relationships, I don't know. It's a lot of things
that comes in between you. Man, it's not it's not
it's not easy to rekindle. So the love can't be
dependent on that acth depending on loyalty to me. Man,
It's just it's just the way are my operations.

Speaker 16 (01:35:55):
So what do you so?

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
So are you saying that they don't got to have passion,
you're just loyalty. Bro, that's what you're trying to.

Speaker 23 (01:36:00):
I mean, you can try to put it in and
now and then, but you know, you got to understand
what lot of Please Lloyd Lloydy stands.

Speaker 13 (01:36:07):
You know what I'm saying, because what he's saying is
after the passion runs out, because it will.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
If it's real, it won't run.

Speaker 16 (01:36:19):
Out bro, oh god.

Speaker 18 (01:36:25):
For a season?

Speaker 22 (01:36:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, run off for a season.

Speaker 13 (01:36:33):
Because people have People have emotional changes, people have chemical
and ballance changes.

Speaker 22 (01:36:39):
So it's not always going.

Speaker 10 (01:36:40):
To be like it was.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
I'm very concerned because it's like, Yo, when you look
at this person, you think this is like your lifetime partner,
Like you.

Speaker 16 (01:36:49):
Know what I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
That's where that's that's what ahead, Jarvis, are you here?

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Jervis?

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Yeah, brother, And I don't think they understand you know
what I mean. I think they're just temporary dating. Can
you please try me?

Speaker 7 (01:37:05):
I will take.

Speaker 33 (01:37:08):
But phades, I would. I will take ebb and flow
even though I'm not comfortable with it. But to say
it phase, nah, I'm I'm sorry.

Speaker 16 (01:37:17):
Now this is my wife.

Speaker 10 (01:37:18):
I could.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
I had a complete autonomy of picture who I married,
and I picked this up. And every day I wake
up and see her getting ready in the mirror because
I tend to sleep in because I go to work later.

Speaker 8 (01:37:29):
I am happy as fuck? Did she look good? And
I'm passionate about that woman? Every day? And that is no,
I'm can't because real quick, real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Because Jarvis, she gonna feed.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
You ain't treating me to say, you know what I mean,
you gotta keep if it's gonna be passion, it's gotta
be passion to the whales.

Speaker 12 (01:37:47):
Falk that what are you talking?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
That's why don't be lasting?

Speaker 35 (01:37:58):
You wait until you say passion.

Speaker 12 (01:38:02):
He paid.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Mother, y'all be y'all be having passion for only a
temporary moment and wondering why ship don't be lasting. Y'all
gotta have the passion from the day one until the
day is over. Ain't all made today?

Speaker 12 (01:38:19):
Can we have a passion?

Speaker 48 (01:38:21):
Is on a scale from one to t You're never
falling off the scale. You may be at a one
for a season, you may be at a team, you
may be at a five, but you're never falling off
the scale completely.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
I just need somebody on the same way this. I
need you to be at an all the time.

Speaker 22 (01:38:36):
It ain't gonna happen, bro, It ain't gonna.

Speaker 10 (01:38:41):
That's gonna happen.

Speaker 13 (01:38:48):
Yeah, because it's gonna be times that you wake up.
You ain't gonna you ain't gonna be able to stand.
What do you mean she ain't gonna be able to stand.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
But go out do what you need to do and
come back and then we you know what I'm saying, Like,
why y'all think that healthy break unhealthy?

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
So are you?

Speaker 25 (01:39:04):
Are you just talking about let's let him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Finished, just saying like pete real quick's done. The healthy
ship is healthy. Y'all can go take healthy breaks. You
go to the library, go to the grocery store, go
do something with your time, and you you won't be tired.
If you feel like you're tired, go go do something,
Go take a nap. If you're tired of me, you
understand stunning, Go go go sleep, Go sleep it off,

(01:39:28):
and when you wake back up, we won't be tired
of each other.

Speaker 28 (01:39:31):
You understand.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Lewis stunning it than lewis.

Speaker 48 (01:39:38):
If you're talking about sexual passion, I don't think sexual
passion really phase. But there's different levels, but I don't
I don't think sexual passion.

Speaker 23 (01:39:50):
Wait, let's let's let wait, wait before I want to
let before we go forward, let's hear the woman explanation
of this passion from one to ten.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
I ahead, because I'm confused.

Speaker 23 (01:40:02):
Now sexual passion, whatever type passion passion is out there,
and educate me.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
There's a lot of other passion out there.

Speaker 48 (01:40:11):
Like I may be upset with my dude for whatever reason,
but that's not gonna take away when it's trying to
have sex.

Speaker 35 (01:40:16):
I'm not gonna be like I'm mad at.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
You, all right already, bluish Wow, you just gotta be
in the situation and know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 13 (01:40:26):
The passion passion, the passion is gonna leave and it's
and it can come back. But what happens is people
have hormonal imbalances, People get bored, people get influenced by
outside resources. So that's why it's like people, especially with
people been together for a while. That's why you have

(01:40:48):
to stay conscious of are you being passionate or is
your spouse receiving the passion that you're putting out, Because
you could be putting out passion, it's not They not
received it because it's not the passionate they want. And
so that's something that you have to take. Don't take
for granted in any relationship, well it's a two year relationship,
board thirty year relationship, you have to kindle, you have

(01:41:11):
to kindle. That's why you say should always keep dating
your spouse. Regardless however long y'all been together, y'all still
have to keep doing that same stuff because you can get.

Speaker 8 (01:41:20):
In the rut.

Speaker 13 (01:41:21):
I'm telling you can get in the rut with working
and stuff will get bored or you will get bored
and then it's like, wow, what do I need to
do to get back into this Because you get caught
up and work, you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Really get bored of your partner. Though yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know you hear this ship, I'm just not.

Speaker 26 (01:41:40):
At all.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Yeah, really ain't met nobody excited.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
You.

Speaker 13 (01:41:51):
I've been with the same woman for thirty five years.
It's gonna be times you're gonna get bored.

Speaker 49 (01:41:57):
I want about that first move? Sh can I can't
really comment on it, y'all. Don't get pushed. It's gonna
you won't get you as a as a human being.
She get tired of me, I get tired of her.
And that's and that's common sense. Any That's why I
said what I said.

Speaker 13 (01:42:14):
Anytime you with somebody over, I ain't talking about no year,
two year relationship and no failure relationship. Once you start
being with the same person and you have to catch
yourself to make sure that you don't fall into a rut.
Because that's how these look. People been married thirty forty
years talking about they want a divorce. Look at her,
what's the just name his old lady. She wanted divorce

(01:42:35):
because he got caught up in work and she felt
left out.

Speaker 26 (01:42:38):
So it happens.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Let me ask this question, right even talking lewis you
gotta you gotta lead? Rest for the people? Listen? So
is passion physical.

Speaker 23 (01:42:53):
When once the physical dies out, will you still have
the same passion for that person?

Speaker 8 (01:43:01):
Pash?

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
So why do men not anybody but you?

Speaker 23 (01:43:05):
But why do men cheat with younger looking women? And
why do women cheat with younger looking buff men? Please
explain that.

Speaker 26 (01:43:16):
Don't don't.

Speaker 8 (01:43:16):
I don't want to hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
Jaden Fuckery.

Speaker 12 (01:43:18):
I want you to be real fuck clubhouse, you're real.

Speaker 23 (01:43:23):
Life because when Kitty starts stagging and that ass start dragging, you're.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
Looking for another with a bigger wagon. That was a
motherfucking mic drop it. I don't even know it.

Speaker 13 (01:43:40):
And the passion is mental. It all starts in the mind.
Because it's just my opinion. It starts in the mind
because you have to be you have to be well.
When you're young, men are visual and we can see

(01:44:01):
something and get excited. But once you make that connection
and you get locked in with somebody on the mental side,
it's more so on the mental than the physical. You
still like the physical and you still attracted to what
you're attracted to, but when you locked in on that
mental side, y'all complete each other sentences.

Speaker 22 (01:44:21):
She's thinking and stuff that you're thinking of.

Speaker 13 (01:44:24):
And so you know, it's like, hey, I want to
like It's like I give you an example, like, hey, yeah,
I got a taste for some fish fish dinner tonight.
You know what, I was thinking the same thing. When
you get on that level with somebody, it's mental, bro, I'm.

Speaker 16 (01:44:49):
Gonna try to help quick. Job.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Are most couples together out of comfort and passion? If
you guys are just now joining with the gender war's house,
it's the wall floor. Anybody can catch a bullet, anybody
catch a stray. It doesn't matter who it is.

Speaker 10 (01:45:02):
This is the war floor.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
I hate when people come here here and they get
kind of sensitive. Nah, we having fun. This is entertainment.
This is going right on the podcast you at the
end of the day. I want you to continue this conversation.
Ping the room out, share the room out together.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Or comfort? What motherfucker?

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Can you play a whole new world?

Speaker 16 (01:45:26):
Come on, I'm in my hot ride right now, so
I'll do it. Get back.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Don't you dare close your eyes make killing me?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
So this is my look, Look, Lewis this is my
thing because I know you promote marriage the same way
I do. But you can't in one breath say that
it's about the mental and you know all these other
you know, uh uh, sentimental things are important. But then
I also tell the people that you're going to get

(01:45:55):
and listen, you make a definitive statements.

Speaker 33 (01:45:57):
That's why I was coming off Mike to to go again.
You're going to get bored with your partner. The passion
is gonna fade.

Speaker 8 (01:46:06):
No, Bro, just like you're saying it happens, I can say.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
The opposite happens, and that where we're at w in
the middle, so so neither one of us white.

Speaker 35 (01:46:16):
But I can't see.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
I can't see how you can promote people getting together
and being in these long standing relationships the way that
we are. But also I kind of kind of stare
them away by telling them that eventually they're gonna get
bored and they partner and they passion gonna face.

Speaker 16 (01:46:31):
How does it happen? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Jarvis, I'm just always trying to I was confused on
that too. It's like, dog, if you got the passion,
you know that that's your partner, and you excited to
be with this person, they help you. They I don't know,
you just never ever ever get bored of that person. Bro,
you really fuck with that person. Like Odor Lewis, we
know what you're gonna say. You're gonna give me a
bunch of fucking dumb pushback. I know, I know, I know,
I know, but no, when it's real, bro, if you

(01:46:55):
know you know the passion, don't go nowhere.

Speaker 16 (01:46:57):
Bro, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:46:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
We have a different generation and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Bro, but that that that that motherfucking passion don't die
out when you really fucking woul, when you really hold her,
you know, up to that high standard.

Speaker 28 (01:47:09):
Bro.

Speaker 16 (01:47:09):
I'm not fucking around with all that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Bro.

Speaker 8 (01:47:11):
I'm bored.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
I don't feel like it today.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Now, Bro, get the funk out of here, becase it's
gonna be another one that's got feel like a sap.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
You know what it is, Brogga can't stop.

Speaker 8 (01:47:23):
I think the problem is that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
You asshole I am.

Speaker 23 (01:47:30):
Why Why would I tell hold on Nigro league, Why
would I tell you that that you talk too much?

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
Broke?

Speaker 16 (01:47:38):
I didn't know you was talking to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
Yah. I was just saying like, I.

Speaker 23 (01:47:42):
Don't I don't think okay, I don't think you and
Dramas is being genuine. I don't know what I was
on the that was about to speak, but you got it.

Speaker 27 (01:47:50):
No, I was just trying to say, Like, I think
what's happening here is why the views as marriage are
what they are is because niggas do get tired of
the lad people do get tired of their hugs.

Speaker 8 (01:48:01):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 27 (01:48:01):
Times you get people to get caught up in they
cycle of working, They saying schedule, doing the same shit
over and over, and then you end up being just
roommates with them all fluckers, And then niggas think that
this whole marriage is just unfair tale, sweet ass loving
dream when it ain't part of them Vallees.

Speaker 8 (01:48:17):
You motherfuckers can get deep for some people.

Speaker 27 (01:48:20):
So I think if a niggas are her telling you
that it's part of his relationship, that shit wasn't cool,
it wasn't good, and they had to work to get
back to a good point in their situation. I don't
really see why nigga should be valued because that is
some people's true. Now that ain't mad, he might not
be jobs, but the fact what that nigga telling y'all,
Why discredit what he's saying, Because like, even with the

(01:48:41):
whole thought of you're gonna discourage.

Speaker 8 (01:48:43):
People can want to do shit because of the story,
Like if a nigga get this parade of marriage because
they heard the nigga talking about the bad times. They
don't need that shit.

Speaker 26 (01:48:50):
No one but that shit not.

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
Always don't be good. And then what now you got
a nigga thinking.

Speaker 27 (01:48:56):
He should leave this old lady because times got hard.
You don't know what the fuck nigga dealing with.

Speaker 26 (01:49:00):
One going through?

Speaker 16 (01:49:02):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
I want to hear from brother Albert. Brother Albert, are
you in the building?

Speaker 8 (01:49:06):
O G.

Speaker 5 (01:49:08):
Yes, so we're not aware.

Speaker 16 (01:49:10):
What does you think about it being a married man? Albert?

Speaker 35 (01:49:14):
Yeah, I've been cracking up. Man, my voice is down
there out man. Who he guess it's fly backwards. That's
the fact. That was like the ship.

Speaker 50 (01:49:25):
That's how I was listening, being all kind of too ship.
How the hell can you lose passion? What you get
married for?

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
What's that gonna be fixing?

Speaker 51 (01:49:37):
Uh?

Speaker 35 (01:49:37):
A transmission together? What if y'all could have just stayed
shot it up?

Speaker 26 (01:49:47):
So at?

Speaker 8 (01:49:47):
Why don't you get divorced?

Speaker 27 (01:49:48):
Then if the passion and all the ship never goes away,
causeuse ship sometimes don't work exactly, so ship can not
work out. You can lose passion and understanding and being trying.

Speaker 35 (01:49:58):
To fix you. Y'all, Scott asked to talk to me.
You just keep on with your philosophy.

Speaker 27 (01:50:06):
Well, you just keep being the old nigga in the
room saying a bunch of angry ship because you're all angry.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
A minute, Wait a minute, old a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:50:18):
Niggas be done left they first wives what they second?

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
Wise?

Speaker 8 (01:50:21):
Now, marriages don't have ups and downs. Ain't no problem.

Speaker 27 (01:50:24):
Your niggas is liars, brogga man that shiit real nigga,
you wouldn't have left her first wies if anything was
all good the ship.

Speaker 8 (01:50:32):
Don't never say you nigga wouldn't be in second marriages.

Speaker 35 (01:50:35):
Put that bullshit out bullsh because it's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:50:39):
The people in your laughing about the fact that you're
a nigga for talking about marriages are always break but
you are the.

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
Nigga you just come standing and you just think of
something truth.

Speaker 27 (01:50:49):
Like y'all just want to say whatever I want to
say to push out for sporter. Don't want nobody to
push back on this.

Speaker 8 (01:50:53):
Ship when y'all say this cup of that ship. The
truth is marriages have up and downs. Because you niggas
who was married ended up the board and everything stayed
on the.

Speaker 27 (01:51:02):
Nigga wul y'all will still do your first wife, your
manage will still be baby mama.

Speaker 8 (01:51:07):
Why y'all niggas ain't with the ladies. Where the ladies and.

Speaker 35 (01:51:10):
Your floories up.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
On.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
I'm done eating this bacon.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Bagel stack.

Speaker 11 (01:51:21):
Yeah, I love that for you and then you get
that it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 50 (01:51:36):
Man, you know sometimes man, motherfuckers really think they just
fit a square peg in a round hole.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Is that stupid?

Speaker 8 (01:51:49):
That's what it is.

Speaker 35 (01:51:53):
You know something.

Speaker 50 (01:51:57):
You siga that ship out thinking yet I said, I've
been hearing this fucking pig ladder, I said, coming around
the corner, my third dimension ties into my fourth dimension,
creating a new understanding of what it.

Speaker 35 (01:52:14):
Hasn't been understood. That's what the fuck I'm listening to.

Speaker 30 (01:52:20):
I've got clips coming out, this moth clip coming out
this motherfucker what I believe you if you if you
sleep outside, see when you sleep outside, you get caught.

Speaker 11 (01:52:34):
Bars.

Speaker 50 (01:52:35):
This is the ship that I'm hearing. Brother, with a
simple asked question, in the in the room of gender wore,
are most couples together out of comfort or passion?

Speaker 35 (01:52:47):
Right?

Speaker 26 (01:52:48):
You know?

Speaker 50 (01:52:48):
I mean a nigga like me sayings, boss, but you
know we got to always split it down the middle.

Speaker 35 (01:52:53):
Brother's dad, let me, let me get back to doing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
You have spoken most couples together out of comfort or passion,
picking the room out?

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Should the room out? Let's continue to have an open dialogue. Yeah,
do you have anything to say?

Speaker 23 (01:53:09):
I'm just saying, you know, to the brother point, to
DJ's point, a lot of people be acting like there's
no problem. And you remember I used to throw a
lot of rooms with the marriage rooms and stuff like that.
I said, Joe, you know why I stopped throwing marriage
rooms because y'all will always talk about all the good ship.

Speaker 12 (01:53:28):
Everything is good all the time, nothing goes wrong.

Speaker 23 (01:53:30):
You never talk about the in between, the bad times,
the time that you start there and cry together.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
All y'all never talk about those things, like people go
through things. You say that you don't go through anything.
Just you're just saying you're not even human at this point.
So I do agree what the point where DJ was
making and stuff like that, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 8 (01:53:50):
Yeah, we don't even got to agree with me. Look
at the mariagetatistics. They think they can bring up all
the time.

Speaker 27 (01:53:56):
And man, thanks for good while the marriages they.

Speaker 26 (01:54:00):
Think is so good?

Speaker 8 (01:54:00):
Why do these niggas so fingerle?

Speaker 27 (01:54:01):
Let these bigger as age. All these niggas got kids,
but ain't nobody with the bay mom.

Speaker 8 (01:54:11):
It's puzzling.

Speaker 27 (01:54:13):
Niggas replying the ship that they ain't got nothing to
do with what was saying to them directly puzzling.

Speaker 8 (01:54:19):
But these the old niggas, y'all listen to these niggas
is grandfather.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
Like, like, let's be real, granddaddy, what you're granddaddy?

Speaker 27 (01:54:39):
Grandfather saying this ship that y'all be listening to, and
do y'all think these niggas is preaching because they oh, wow,
you're the old niggas are failures, extras relationshipship. These niggas
ain't winning a lot of the old niggas and Billy Tea,
please go on here.

Speaker 8 (01:54:54):
Sir, I wasn't talking about you have some decorum about
yourself that has.

Speaker 35 (01:54:59):
Had musical Get the problem?

Speaker 27 (01:55:02):
Are you and your feelings? Why are you so emotional?
So now you're muted me because your emotional.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
What we're doing?

Speaker 26 (01:55:09):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:55:10):
So are you calor you are you a moderator? Because
the color emotional?

Speaker 11 (01:55:13):
What what are you doing.

Speaker 4 (01:55:16):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:55:16):
You're called her help?

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
What's up? Hour?

Speaker 18 (01:55:19):
What's the problem?

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:55:24):
That nigga fights for themselves that call for help.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
But you, but you, but but you still gotta let
the man.

Speaker 5 (01:55:30):
How you gotta let nigga speak?

Speaker 27 (01:55:35):
Y'all talking talking to Yeah, I was literally talking and
in the man that interrupted me and started going on
me and started muting because he got a moderator?

Speaker 26 (01:55:44):
Bad?

Speaker 11 (01:55:46):
What is the where the music.

Speaker 35 (01:55:49):
Security?

Speaker 28 (01:55:51):
That niggas a.

Speaker 8 (01:55:53):
Mod and a gender war room?

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
That's what.

Speaker 10 (01:55:56):
I was about to start.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
Stop.

Speaker 7 (01:56:00):
It's a.

Speaker 8 (01:56:07):
I don't even want to know the world, d J.

Speaker 22 (01:56:09):
You're here, I don't know.

Speaker 27 (01:56:12):
I don't need a moderator security because guess what wants
a nigga put me out?

Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
Y'all know niggas and hole. So I'd rather nigga put
me on ther whole ass.

Speaker 27 (01:56:21):
Nigga that have an actual conversation that they can't have
because they dealing with their taking wife in the room
talking my.

Speaker 8 (01:56:27):
Marriage is always.

Speaker 10 (01:56:29):
Then they does.

Speaker 8 (01:56:35):
Go around and say a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 27 (01:56:37):
I think literally said that you can get shot in
this role, and that's what this room was built on.
What's the problem?

Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
You sure, will.

Speaker 26 (01:56:50):
You did?

Speaker 5 (01:56:53):
Wait a minute, No, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 12 (01:56:55):
Nobody gets shining that she paid for it in here
than you.

Speaker 16 (01:57:04):
Who's I was.

Speaker 10 (01:57:07):
I was still trying to.

Speaker 35 (01:57:08):
Go I'm completing my task undefeated.

Speaker 28 (01:57:23):
Hello, Hello, people, how y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Hold on, Peter, Hold on, Peter, Peter, Hold on, Peter?
What's going? Is anybody else that was trying to come
in before people?

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
I still was trying to speak, doctor B, o you
and I was gonna come to Albert because I don't
know you know what I mean?

Speaker 16 (01:57:38):
Hold on Peter one minute, doctor b go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:57:40):
Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna because y'all can get back
to fighting.

Speaker 40 (01:57:44):
So I kind of agree with the ups and downs,
like anybody who tries to play like there's not passion
lost in relationship, especially marriage.

Speaker 8 (01:57:53):
Like the data wouldn't support you.

Speaker 10 (01:57:54):
The numbers just kind of reflect what they are.

Speaker 40 (01:57:57):
Even in nature, you can see this, And I'm gonna
have to use my penel my nature trip to say so.
There's a primeate called the T T monkey T I T.
I didn't know this, but I found out when I
was here. This this monkey only mates for one person
for life. It's one of the few primeates that actually
do that. In nature, it has one mate for life
and that's it. If the mate dies, they don't mate

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it anymore. Right, There's another bird called the jacana bird,
and that bird has a bunch of niggas and has
all their eggs, but she don't commit to none of them.
She does her own thing, and the men take care
of the kids and everything. Shout out to nature being
a good reference to this. I think it kind of
reflects us as us being like animals as well. Is
because I don't think we were really designed to be
with one person for ever. We kind of been conditioned

(01:58:39):
into that. I think that that it will reflect that
because people are so apt to leave for whatever reason.

Speaker 26 (01:58:45):
I don't think that's wrong.

Speaker 40 (01:58:47):
One thing, Like when I know I'm not excited to
see somebody anymore, I know it's over.

Speaker 10 (01:58:51):
So what am I fighting for?

Speaker 40 (01:58:52):
Why I don't try to rekindle passion. I don't try
to rekindle passion once it's gone. I think that's an
effort in futility. Now, if you do that, you have
the time to do that, and you want to do that, Like,
I'm not judging you for it. I'm just saying I don't,
and most people I think are kind of in mind
with me if they were. What real openly is like,
you know, when the passion is gone, Like if I'm
not here for survival, then why am I still here?

Speaker 16 (01:59:13):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:59:13):
We do have women especially and men too as well.
You know, I got a couple of kids.

Speaker 40 (01:59:17):
Nobody else kind of won't me, Like I don't really
like this nigga, but I need him to survive, Like
I get that right, Those those kind of are.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
True things.

Speaker 40 (01:59:26):
I think for people who like are self sufficient and
don't actually require you by for their sustenance. When the
passion gone, they gone too. They're not sticking around for
it because they know, for the most part, it.

Speaker 10 (01:59:34):
Ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
I agree with doctor B. Once the passion is gone,
you're gone. And I think that's where Jarvis was coming
from earlier. It's like, yo, why be together if there's
passions is going the way? And that's why I was
giving Louis that pushback, like, bro, fuck you mean passion's
gonna be gone? That means it's over, then you might
as well walk out. That's not true, Okay, whatever you
used toy.

Speaker 10 (01:59:55):
Yeah, when men stay, when the passion's gone stack. It's
because they don't got no better.

Speaker 26 (02:00:01):
That's why.

Speaker 10 (02:00:04):
Y'all disagree with the numbers. Then, like the numbers are
right there, I just disagree to disagree without doing research.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Can I come in, Ny can jump in and keep
the conversation. Really, let's go all right?

Speaker 52 (02:00:19):
Well, listen, the first thing that people in this world
got to understand is how to compromise between everything and
a relationship. One thing that getting into a relationship is this.
You have to understand when you say I will, I
want to, I agree to, you have to understand yours

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is yours no more. Your space, your money, your time,
your love no longer belongs to you because you committed
to another person. Same thing goes vice versas man woman
commitment compromise.

Speaker 28 (02:01:03):
Stop trying to be single?

Speaker 8 (02:01:11):
Okay?

Speaker 26 (02:01:14):
What was that you you don't know where you are?

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
Yeah, Peter, I mean this guy.

Speaker 12 (02:01:22):
This guy is a right I wrote text Peter, Peter,
you're Peter, You're you're You're not.

Speaker 34 (02:01:31):
We know you're not who you say you are on
that Ptrter, Peter, just the way you speak?

Speaker 4 (02:01:35):
What the fuck were you talking about this?

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
I don't understand, yo, Peter, what are you saying, say this,
did you understanding Peter said, you know about the all?

Speaker 16 (02:01:48):
Definitely? Not definitely.

Speaker 52 (02:01:51):
A lot of people won't understand what the whole thing
about it is. The whole thing about it is, man,
I have to understand one simple thing. We came from women.
Women gave birth to us. Every single person that is
on this earth came through a woman. Now the main

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major thing that we of this world that sent us
to school to teach us how to be intelligent? How
intelligent are we when we're keep on asking questions about
something that we already know about.

Speaker 12 (02:02:28):
Have you been drinking?

Speaker 20 (02:02:30):
No?

Speaker 28 (02:02:30):
No, I don't drink brother.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Please, mommy.

Speaker 4 (02:02:39):
No.

Speaker 52 (02:02:40):
You see, you guys still got a deeper sense of
understanding of what your passion and comfort is. We made
comfort by making money and things to be happy. You
made passion because you made a drink so that you
can have love.

Speaker 12 (02:03:02):
Brings us back to my question, have you been drinking?
You've been buying any appohol this season? That's why you've
been party.

Speaker 16 (02:03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:03:16):
Have you been in bibing?

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
Sure? Yeah?

Speaker 52 (02:03:21):
That that's why I said, this world still has a
long way to go understanding to stop arguing with each
other overthrow.

Speaker 12 (02:03:29):
Kind of slur your language a little bit, slur your
speech a little bit. It's a slight slur. That's just
why I'm asking you've been having anything?

Speaker 19 (02:03:35):
Well?

Speaker 28 (02:03:36):
No, no, I slur my speech because the fact about
it is.

Speaker 16 (02:03:42):
Drunk.

Speaker 28 (02:03:42):
I just no, I'm never drunk.

Speaker 8 (02:03:44):
Brother.

Speaker 12 (02:03:46):
You sure you haven't had anything?

Speaker 31 (02:03:49):
It is it is twelve forty on the East coast,
eastern daylight time, so it is around it is around
that time.

Speaker 12 (02:03:55):
You know you would have you know you haven't had
any more.

Speaker 28 (02:03:59):
It's it's a breathing condition.

Speaker 12 (02:04:01):
Okay, a breathing condition.

Speaker 5 (02:04:04):
Yes, I was.

Speaker 28 (02:04:05):
I was stabbed when I was younger.

Speaker 12 (02:04:08):
I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Okay, we sorry, Peter, Peter, Peter, We're done.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
We're over that, Peter, Mama. Can we come back in
with this new topic? Bro our men talk to be
providers or performers. Can we ping this room up and
share this room up?

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
Yay?

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
Albert kat Rosie, thank you for being here, Ice, and
you're the Amber Rico's light skin ass appreciate you. Also
check out the podcast because more Gender War episodes will
be available real soon. If you have a pink ticket,
cash that shit in so that way you can be
a part of the war floor. So that way when
we come in here with these heat at the base,
you'll be right on the podcast show contributing as well.

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Let's go crazy, let's do this, and also we'll be
doing some business rooms and media mentors me Albert and
a couple of few entrepreneurs that I bring on the
app to show you guys about passive income and how
to make cryptocurrency through.

Speaker 2 (02:04:54):
USDT and through the blockchain and how to make passive income.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
Appreciate you guys, our men talked to be providers or
performers me.

Speaker 16 (02:05:02):
What you think about this?

Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
Bro?

Speaker 16 (02:05:03):
Let's talk about this ship, bro, let's open it up.

Speaker 4 (02:05:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 11 (02:05:09):
Hmmm.

Speaker 19 (02:05:12):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:05:15):
Yeah, there's there's some like American cultural.

Speaker 31 (02:05:19):
You know, touchstones on what's expected of you as as
a man, and even in your in the twenty first century,
it's still kind of measured on your ability to provide
a a middle class or above lifestyle, you know for
a family, you know, a wife and children kind of
still kind of measured by that.

Speaker 12 (02:05:39):
So yeah, there's something to be said for that.

Speaker 5 (02:05:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 51 (02:05:51):
About the previous set about the comfort, the reality is
stack is that most people are getting together because they
need help. That's why they getting married. They're not getting married.
Passion is deathly okay in relationships. People, you hear this.

Speaker 22 (02:06:06):
Provider and you gotta do this.

Speaker 51 (02:06:09):
And then then when I make sure that men should
you know, women should wait till they get you know,
as a relationship, they should before they have sex. And
then women use their minds. Where is the passion in that?
It's all about comfort. It's all about help and comfort
and making sure that I can get what I need
because I can't do it myself and I need somebody
to either help me or give it to me. So

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there's no passion in that. And if you listen and
I listen to what women and men, women say they
want a man to.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
Do all this and men know you, oh, I'll do
it because a man the only way to be a
marriage to.

Speaker 35 (02:06:43):
Be doing everything.

Speaker 51 (02:06:44):
So where is the passion of that? People come together
If it's passionate, it's not because of the provision or
the comfort. It's because of the two people that like
each other and like being around each other and have
feelings for each other. That's where the passion comes from.
So of course, you know the health thing everybody needs
help as soon as the help is given, and if

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it and then if the help goes away, so does
that person go away as well. That's why people don't
stay in relationships. That's why people adn't even getting married.

Speaker 22 (02:07:14):
And there's no passion in that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
And I'm done, Rob talk about the second part, bro, Yeah,
go ahead over to you.

Speaker 22 (02:07:23):
I mean then on being taught how to be providers.

Speaker 51 (02:07:26):
I mean because because for me, providing first comes from
within to take care of yourself. And if you are
blaming everybody else for why you can't do that, then
where's the providing coming from? We always talk about providing providing?
What what are you providing? Your time? Effort, interest, are
you putting in a phone call or maybe the idea

(02:07:50):
of maybe getting together with somebody besides having sex.

Speaker 22 (02:07:54):
So so where's the providing is morning? Is giving somebody
some money? Because the things think about.

Speaker 51 (02:08:00):
This, Who in the world, I mean, I mean men
out here can take care of a woman one hundred percent,
very very few, matter of fact, more of men can
barely take care of themselves. That's why men are here
struggling today. But we don't want to talk about that,
because every man on this stage can pay can take

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care of a woman.

Speaker 2 (02:08:23):
Yeah, because I want to talk to Lfe skin Rico
like skin Rico can do this performance Rico talk about.

Speaker 9 (02:08:35):
Definitely performers because there's no to me. Just because you
provide for yourself, that doesn't mean you're taught to be
a provider to a woman in that sense. You're taught
to make enough to sustain your living, to earn. But
there's no changing of the guard. There's no men teaching
men what it looks like to be men or families.

(02:08:56):
There's no mentorship. There's no older men past and down
the baton having these fathers. I'm not saying no like
they don't exist. I'm saying not in masks where they
having these father the son sit down. You know, when
I was small, even though I might have been missing that,
Bill Cosby kind of became my default father on the cars.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Are you are you kidding me?

Speaker 53 (02:09:18):
I'm just saying I learned hold on brother uncle Phil,
Uncle uncle Phil, Uncle Phil on fresh Prince of bel
was still giving us game even though he was watching
it like on on TV YO.

Speaker 9 (02:09:30):
And then we had the guy you know on Family Matters,
So we had Carlow.

Speaker 10 (02:09:36):
Shout out to him man.

Speaker 9 (02:09:40):
Saying, man, the thing is this, though, men are taught
to be performers. So what they're doing is they want
to show like they got it. They want to put
on and this is why you see them do the
most when they are in the street, do the most
like you do when you in the club at the bottle.

Speaker 12 (02:09:59):
Because you performing, you're just putting on a show.

Speaker 8 (02:10:01):
Brother, That's what you're all doing.

Speaker 12 (02:10:03):
That's all it is.

Speaker 4 (02:10:04):
Man.

Speaker 9 (02:10:04):
Even y'all on this app the majority of you are performed.
Was broke balancing the ball on your nose?

Speaker 8 (02:10:11):
Y'all got it?

Speaker 4 (02:10:14):
Yo?

Speaker 26 (02:10:14):
We go trying to his light skinned eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Man, somebody legal lock him up, put him into jail.

Speaker 16 (02:10:22):
We lock him up.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
He's done, you feel me? Rico's done?

Speaker 16 (02:10:26):
A man?

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
What's good?

Speaker 16 (02:10:27):
A man?

Speaker 4 (02:10:27):
Talk?

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
To be provided for my brother? How you feel about
this og?

Speaker 16 (02:10:31):
Yeah? Was good?

Speaker 54 (02:10:35):
No, they're performing, they're not provided. They can dancing and
pep popping on the handstanding.

Speaker 50 (02:10:48):
H they paid for women. They don't even love him.
All you gotta do is is fix turkey chops. That's
some apple sauce, man.

Speaker 5 (02:10:59):
And they.

Speaker 50 (02:11:01):
Women don't really have to putforth much effort, just rub
you on the top. Of your little head, play with
your little balls, and you're happy.

Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
Man.

Speaker 50 (02:11:11):
They don't provide much of ship. A pay check, yeah, yeah,
a nice check. Some men actually scrounged up enough. Mighty provides,
you know, food, clothing, and ship. That's about it, brothers, dat.

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Let's continue this. Who else wants to come in? Doctor?
Doctor Albert? Men taught to be providers of performance? Whe's
where's my I?

Speaker 4 (02:11:40):
R O?

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
Sisters? That's cat? What's SENIORA is Diego Jarvis? Where the
hell they at?

Speaker 16 (02:11:44):
Man? Page the form?

Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
And but you did?

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (02:11:49):
Not you?

Speaker 36 (02:11:51):
I'm here making baby food?

Speaker 16 (02:11:52):
Give me okay?

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Yeah, come back and checking soon, because I want to
know if.

Speaker 7 (02:11:58):
Everybody I'm happy Monday, everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:12:02):
You're cooking through?

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
I just want I just wanted to know from y'all.
Men taught to be providers or performers.

Speaker 36 (02:12:07):
If you guys are performers, they're definitely Morning by the way,
stack everybody. They're definitely taught to be performers. They're definitely
not taught to be providers. Because if they were taught
to be providers, we wouldn't have this fifty to fifty argument.
It wouldn't be an issue we'd have more wives, we'd

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have more stay at home moms. They're definitely performers, the
faked to you naked types for sure, And I.

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
Feel like the performing only gets you, but so far Notcho.
It's like, Okay, you can perform and do all these tricks,
but how long is that's gonna last?

Speaker 21 (02:12:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
I know, you know, I know Rico he likes to
do these light skinned tricks while like going out in
the rain dancing with his boombox and singing outside.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
You know, but how long is that gonna last for him?

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
How long is that gonna last for we go dancing
outside in the rain with his boombox with.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
No shirtle, I want to.

Speaker 7 (02:13:05):
Let me tell you how long is that?

Speaker 16 (02:13:12):
I'm not done, let me get her in there. I'm
going right back on you.

Speaker 36 (02:13:18):
So yeah, no, it lasts as long as it takes
to get her to commit to him, because once he
thinks he has herd that could be marriage, that could
be some form of a commitment with a child or
living together. Then the mask falls off and then the
real guy comes out and then you're stuck like chuck,

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you got it?

Speaker 40 (02:13:41):
So I want to like, because I'm like trying to follow,
try to catch up with y'all plot changes. But I'm
both I provide and I perform. I perform my duties
as a father.

Speaker 8 (02:13:59):
I provide for my U.

Speaker 40 (02:14:01):
I don't know if you're talking about like taking care
of women. I guess to a degree, any man. Can
we talk about like club? So say like I'm in
the barrio stack and Hollywood pulls me into a private
Rule and then you know, we talking shit about Diego
in the private rule and me and Hollywood's we.

Speaker 10 (02:14:19):
O g barrio niggas and we talking shit about.

Speaker 40 (02:14:20):
Diego and then like you know, when Diego come back
on stage, we acting like you know, we wasn't just
talking about Diego?

Speaker 10 (02:14:26):
Like what are we performing?

Speaker 4 (02:14:27):
Right?

Speaker 18 (02:14:28):
There?

Speaker 10 (02:14:28):
Is that performing? I'm just trying to get the how
we determine what performance is?

Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
Yes, oh okay, No.

Speaker 36 (02:14:38):
Performing would be lying saying that you're a vegan just
because you know the girl is a vegan, knowing and
you driving.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
I said, just to get in them drugs, just getting
lit up.

Speaker 7 (02:14:52):
Yeah yeah, that would also.

Speaker 36 (02:14:54):
Performing would also be telling her you do yoga, knowing
you can't even st at without getting a Charlie horse, right,
just because you know she's into her body and likes yoga.
Performing would also be telling her that you're a traveler, right,

(02:15:14):
and you stay at motel lodges, right, no passport, you
stay at lodges.

Speaker 7 (02:15:22):
Another one would be, y'all lie about.

Speaker 36 (02:15:25):
Your income right when in fact you're you're living off
of credit cards or you got your mama, you're sharing
money with your mama.

Speaker 7 (02:15:33):
That's a big one. Oh, that's a big one.

Speaker 8 (02:15:36):
But go ahead.

Speaker 40 (02:15:37):
So basically, y'all, y'all calling me and fake performing is
like being equivalent to being fake right at.

Speaker 5 (02:15:47):
Okay, So, so do you ladies want a way to
learn how to avoid all that?

Speaker 55 (02:15:52):
You?

Speaker 5 (02:15:54):
No, you don't because you're talking about it. So, no,
you don't.

Speaker 43 (02:15:58):
Because how many women is going through the same ship
she's been through. Mothers don't want to listen.

Speaker 5 (02:16:03):
You just want to talk.

Speaker 4 (02:16:04):
So is that you get getting real crazy?

Speaker 40 (02:16:18):
Is nobody gonna define what performance is here? Because I'm
still computed. It's performance And we call the niggas who.

Speaker 7 (02:16:24):
Perform like, Yeah, it's men who are fake.

Speaker 3 (02:16:30):
It's men who.

Speaker 10 (02:16:31):
Aren't multiple questions, multiple choice.

Speaker 7 (02:16:34):
They're acting like there's something they're not. I don't know
why you don't get that.

Speaker 40 (02:16:41):
Not, So it's a yes or no question. So I
didn't hear it yes or no. Her words neither yes
nor no. Are men who perform that we considering them fake?

Speaker 4 (02:16:49):
Yes or no?

Speaker 40 (02:16:51):
Yes, that's all I want to thank you. So we're
basically saying, are men providing? Are men fake? So you
already said men ain't providing? So the majority of men
have to be fake? All y'all? Do y'all feel that
men ain't fake? Do you have any experiences with me
and being fake?

Speaker 8 (02:17:07):
With y'all?

Speaker 10 (02:17:08):
Is there anyone among us that's experienced with me and
performing being fake?

Speaker 8 (02:17:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:17:13):
I don't know why you're changing the word, because fake
and performing they're not.

Speaker 10 (02:17:18):
We just said they equated. We just said it.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
We just said it.

Speaker 10 (02:17:20):
They said yes because.

Speaker 40 (02:17:24):
You could have said no. You could have said no,
yes or no? Because I do what I want, That's
why I can't. But again, if you answer my questions.

Speaker 25 (02:17:35):
Performance is a pretender, A performer is a pretender.

Speaker 5 (02:17:39):
Do you want to learn a way to avoid all
of that? Yes?

Speaker 43 (02:17:43):
Or God, God damn, Black women are so full of
ship and you niggas are full of shit too.

Speaker 5 (02:17:49):
Do you want to know how to.

Speaker 8 (02:17:58):
Say that perform.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
That's not true, and.

Speaker 40 (02:18:06):
Jarvis, that's why I asked the context of what we're
determined what performing is.

Speaker 16 (02:18:10):
Yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 20 (02:18:11):
Makes no sense to say that the person that's that's
performing is being faked.

Speaker 8 (02:18:15):
That doesn't always, Okay.

Speaker 22 (02:18:19):
It depends on how you look at it.

Speaker 13 (02:18:21):
Because top performers they at the top of their game,
whether it's stock market, brick laying, analytics, whatever, they top performers.

Speaker 7 (02:18:34):
I agree, And that's how most men get them.

Speaker 36 (02:18:37):
Yeah, we're talking about actors. We're talking about clowns. We're
talking about you know, watch my left hand so you
can't see what my right hand is doing. We're talking
about men around here juggling. They six figures, they six
inches and they six foot body right in front of
a woman and they're confusing her. We're talking about that's

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what we're talking about.

Speaker 12 (02:19:01):
Yeah, yeah, let's talk about that instead of a guy.

Speaker 7 (02:19:04):
Instead of a guy, instead of I'm listening straight forward,
he doesn't right.

Speaker 12 (02:19:10):
Here's how you get around, here's how you here's how
you get from.

Speaker 7 (02:19:14):
Let me land, I'm going back on mute. Let me land.

Speaker 36 (02:19:17):
Instead of a man who is a straight shooter, he
doesn't have to perform he's not juggling, he's not acting,
he's not making content out of himself.

Speaker 7 (02:19:28):
A straight shooter, he just is.

Speaker 12 (02:19:31):
Okay, So let me let me come in and let
me come in and bring the other part. But let
me bring any other part of it.

Speaker 7 (02:19:38):
But can I land, sir? I don't know, but already
heard what you said at the first time. I don't
overtalk anywhere she's talking to people in the room, not
just I'm quite respectful, right, And I don't argue with men.

Speaker 12 (02:19:49):
Does not argue with having when we're not each other's children.

Speaker 36 (02:19:55):
We're having a dog right, right, So what I'm saying,
can I respect men? So I don't argue man, but
allow me to lamb. So what I'm saying is a
man who is a straight shooter?

Speaker 7 (02:20:05):
Is he is just that?

Speaker 36 (02:20:07):
A performer is a shadow of that. A performer is
sending a ghost vibe.

Speaker 10 (02:20:13):
Right.

Speaker 36 (02:20:14):
Beyonce, she's a performer. Nobody would really call her a singer,
right because there are many singers out there who can
out sing Beyonce, But there aren't many performers out there
who can outperform her.

Speaker 4 (02:20:27):
Right.

Speaker 36 (02:20:27):
She's got costumes, she's got choreography, she's got backup dancers.
She's got lights, she's got smoke, and that's most of
these dudes out here.

Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
Y'all got backup dancers.

Speaker 36 (02:20:37):
Y'all got costumes, you got smoke, and clubhouses your stage iland.

Speaker 12 (02:20:42):
Okay, So now I'm gonna now we're gonna bring some
sanity to this.

Speaker 31 (02:20:46):
So the yoga example that kind of perked my ears,
Trying to fake yoga is pretty hard.

Speaker 12 (02:20:55):
It's pretty hard to do.

Speaker 31 (02:20:57):
These are signals. The other signals that just mentioned pretty
hard to fake. You want to know why, because they
take a lot of time to develop. See the problem
in Black America is that we want quick fixes. I
keep saying it over and over and over again. Assortative
mating is the answer, ladies.

Speaker 12 (02:21:18):
Why aren't you around men like you? Why is that?

Speaker 31 (02:21:26):
Why is that sixty percent of Black American couples meet
through school, work or networking?

Speaker 3 (02:21:35):
So what do you mean?

Speaker 31 (02:21:36):
Not at the club, not at the bar, not at
the basil, No, they met at school, boring places, school work,
or networking people like themselves. Ladies, Why aren't you around
men like you?

Speaker 12 (02:21:52):
Why is that? If you're the real deal, how come
you're surrounded by fakes?

Speaker 4 (02:22:00):
Why is that.

Speaker 12 (02:22:03):
Whodle me that one, batman.

Speaker 31 (02:22:06):
If you're the real deal, you're on the pilates mat
every day, but you're around people who's faking the funk
without without the nasty dunk.

Speaker 10 (02:22:12):
Why is that?

Speaker 8 (02:22:14):
Hm?

Speaker 7 (02:22:18):
Why is that?

Speaker 12 (02:22:20):
What's wrong with this picture?

Speaker 18 (02:22:23):
Why?

Speaker 7 (02:22:25):
Yeah, it's giving rhetorical.

Speaker 12 (02:22:27):
No, no, no, it's giving factual. Let's try this again.

Speaker 31 (02:22:30):
Sixty of Black American couples right now met either through
school work or networking. If you are working it out
on the pilates mat and their guys are walking up
to you faking the funk without the nasty dunk.

Speaker 16 (02:22:44):
What's wrong with this picture?

Speaker 31 (02:22:45):
Why aren't you being approached by other guys who are
also working it out on the pilates mat?

Speaker 4 (02:22:49):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
What's up with that?

Speaker 12 (02:22:50):
M Gotta do the yoda here?

Speaker 8 (02:22:57):
Why is that is rhetorical?

Speaker 7 (02:22:59):
You can add ask it over and over, but it's
definitely rhetorical.

Speaker 31 (02:23:02):
No, it's actually it's a real question. It's not it's
not rhetorical. I'm asking an honest question. If the argument
the statement was made, most of these men out here
are faking it, Okay, reconcile that with the fact that
sixty percent of black couples met through work, school, or networking.

Speaker 12 (02:23:25):
Reconcile the two.

Speaker 7 (02:23:30):
Right, But that's not the question of top And if
we go down that, that's a rabbit hole.

Speaker 31 (02:23:33):
We're trying to say, No, it's not a rabbit hole.
It's definitive. No, it's not a rabbit hole. It's definitive.
It's no, it's not, it's definitive. Sixty percent of black
couples met through school, networking, or work.

Speaker 12 (02:23:46):
That's a fact. So the argument is that most of
these men out here are performing.

Speaker 31 (02:23:50):
Okay, make it make sense what the sixty percent of
couples are clearly is something wrong here?

Speaker 7 (02:23:57):
Now, I think you're taking it wrong right, just assuming
that people are meeting on the pilates, Matt, When in fact.

Speaker 12 (02:24:03):
I wasn't the one that mentioned yoga, Madam you were.

Speaker 7 (02:24:05):
When in fact, Madam, in fact people.

Speaker 12 (02:24:10):
Madam you mentioned yoga.

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
Let me let me you mentioned that.

Speaker 48 (02:24:15):
I didn't mention that she was just giving a exam
FO not to go down a rabbit hole of where
we're meeting people at white We're not talking about that, sir.

Speaker 12 (02:24:25):
We're talking about why it is.

Speaker 31 (02:24:27):
We're talking about why it is that people, in this
case women because they can work for men too. But people,
in this case, women are attracting people that are not
like themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:24:36):
Why is that?

Speaker 36 (02:24:37):
That's not the topic. The topic is are men taught
to be providers or performers? I understand already that topic,
already answered, but already answered the question.

Speaker 12 (02:24:50):
I said, you didn't hear me say it. You didn't
hear me say it. I'll say it again, you know,
because repetition is the mother of skill.

Speaker 31 (02:24:56):
I say that American society, American culture in the twenty
first century, still expects men to perform to a standard
that women will expect. They still expect men to pay,
They still expect men to approach, They still expect men
to provide. They still expect men to protect to a

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middle class or above standard. That is what I said
to Stacks less than an hour ago. I reiterated, Now,
so get it, got it good? Now we're gonna move
to the next point. Ladies, why are you attracting dudes
at a front faking the front without the nasty dunk.
If you're the real deal, you should be attracting other
men who are the real deal.

Speaker 21 (02:25:36):
Is that not?

Speaker 8 (02:25:36):
So?

Speaker 35 (02:25:38):
That is why I keep.

Speaker 36 (02:25:40):
Happening Mama, you're trying so hard to move the topic,
and that's not the topic.

Speaker 12 (02:25:47):
Already answered the question. Now I'm moving the conversation forward,
moving answer the question different, and I'm moving it forward.
I answered the question, so are you okay? Gonna now
let other people answer.

Speaker 16 (02:26:02):
Happened?

Speaker 12 (02:26:03):
I'm not stopping anybody. You didn't even answer the question.

Speaker 22 (02:26:06):
So are you saying clowns are attracted to clowns.

Speaker 12 (02:26:09):
Yes, Frauds are attracted to frauds. Fakes are attracted the fakes.

Speaker 31 (02:26:14):
I find it fascinating that we can be so metaphysical,
so philosophical until it reaches that part. She took my wire,
like attracts like assortative mating. And now we see the
reason why black folk don't want to talk about it.
You attract who you are and what you are.

Speaker 12 (02:26:36):
So if you're attracting guys who are performing, they're faking
the funk. Look in the mirror, take a good long look.

Speaker 7 (02:26:45):
I'm starting.

Speaker 10 (02:26:48):
So bad.

Speaker 4 (02:26:48):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (02:26:49):
But that's that's not what we're talking about. We're talking
about these men out here faking the funk, and they've
been doing that since the beginning.

Speaker 12 (02:26:57):
And they're gonna be with women who are also faking
the funk.

Speaker 7 (02:27:00):
That's I get.

Speaker 12 (02:27:01):
They gonna be with women who are also faking the funk.

Speaker 7 (02:27:04):
You want to move the gold post.

Speaker 12 (02:27:06):
No, I'm saying, I'm not riding what you're saying. I'm
not saying that there are men who ain't faking it.
I never said that. I never said that.

Speaker 31 (02:27:13):
What I'm saying is, ladies, if you don't like men
who fake the funk, don't be somebody who attracts people
who fake the funk.

Speaker 15 (02:27:21):
You are so right, mama, We just got to attract better.

Speaker 7 (02:27:23):
No, it's not right. He's creating a fallacy.

Speaker 12 (02:27:28):
Exactly what I'm creating.

Speaker 35 (02:27:31):
This what he's saying.

Speaker 36 (02:27:32):
He's trying to say that only women who are faking
the funk attract men who are faking the funk.

Speaker 12 (02:27:39):
That's that's that's mating, madam.

Speaker 31 (02:27:41):
That's not that is that is the truth of assortative mating, madam, Madam,
that is the truth of a mating.

Speaker 12 (02:27:48):
That's your truth.

Speaker 31 (02:27:49):
No, that's sixty six out of every ten black couples.

Speaker 12 (02:27:55):
Men that way.

Speaker 7 (02:27:57):
Okay, But that your stat is a relevant.

Speaker 2 (02:28:00):
No, it's not.

Speaker 31 (02:28:01):
It's very relevant. You just don't want to deal. No,
you don't want to deal with that is out here.
You way back to the stubborn denial and the ignorance,
the stubborn denial and ignorance of the science of human mating.

Speaker 12 (02:28:14):
I matter, madam, you.

Speaker 35 (02:28:16):
Have not, but I didn't even want to.

Speaker 7 (02:28:18):
I have self control.

Speaker 12 (02:28:19):
Well no, now we're gonna Now we're gonna go back
to the decorum game.

Speaker 7 (02:28:22):
Yes we are because your go ahead, sir.

Speaker 35 (02:28:26):
Yeah, anybody ever heard of figurative like figures, I'm gonna
go back.

Speaker 7 (02:28:34):
No, figurative language doesn't apply. We're talking about.

Speaker 16 (02:28:40):
Man, you gotta.

Speaker 35 (02:28:44):
I was trying to help you out.

Speaker 7 (02:28:45):
Man, what'd you say?

Speaker 35 (02:28:48):
I was trying to help you out?

Speaker 7 (02:28:50):
Oh, couldn't hear? You must have been i'muter signed.

Speaker 35 (02:28:53):
You wasn't being literal when you said on the yoga
matt Man.

Speaker 36 (02:29:05):
You got me mixed like you can tell I'm a
gen X because I said faking the funk.

Speaker 7 (02:29:10):
But that's true. My brother taught me about that. My cousins,
we know about men faking the funk. We know men lie.

Speaker 36 (02:29:17):
Y'all pretend to drink light liquor when you drink dark
liquor to get in her draw.

Speaker 12 (02:29:23):
I love old fashions personally.

Speaker 36 (02:29:25):
You see what I'm saying. Y'all pretend to like a
certain food. Y'all pretend you'll just pretend.

Speaker 7 (02:29:35):
Until you get what you want?

Speaker 12 (02:29:37):
Isn't isn't the generalizations fascinating?

Speaker 8 (02:29:41):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 12 (02:29:41):
Isn't the generalizations fascinating?

Speaker 8 (02:29:43):
Here?

Speaker 31 (02:29:43):
Now, notice if I have said the exact same thing
about women, what would have happened?

Speaker 16 (02:29:50):
Come question?

Speaker 12 (02:29:53):
Not all the brothers, Not all the brothers are faking
the funk.

Speaker 31 (02:29:55):
It's just the brothers that you encounter, which brings us
back round, Robin to the point, why do you keep
attracting men who are.

Speaker 12 (02:30:02):
Faking the funk without the nasty dunk? Why is that?
Nobody's denying that those men don't exist. I'm not denying
that those men don't.

Speaker 10 (02:30:11):
I know for a fact.

Speaker 31 (02:30:12):
I know for a fact women will pay good money
for men to lie, tell them ball face lies to
their faith.

Speaker 12 (02:30:19):
I know for a fact that's true. I've witnessed it
many times.

Speaker 31 (02:30:24):
The question becomes, it's not the guys who exists, the
women are willing to pay for it.

Speaker 7 (02:30:30):
Nobody is paying for someone to lie to.

Speaker 3 (02:30:32):
The Oh that right?

Speaker 8 (02:30:35):
Is that right?

Speaker 20 (02:30:36):
Is that?

Speaker 12 (02:30:37):
If I showed you evidence that that was true.

Speaker 7 (02:30:39):
What would you You still wouldn't believe you?

Speaker 12 (02:30:41):
Well, you, of course not, because denials more than the
river in Egypt. But it's true.

Speaker 7 (02:30:51):
That denial is more than a river in Egypt. Like,
come on, it's worth.

Speaker 10 (02:30:57):
It's true.

Speaker 12 (02:30:58):
Women will pay money to be like and they will,
they will, they.

Speaker 4 (02:31:02):
Will, they will.

Speaker 38 (02:31:04):
As a therapist, I talked to a lot of women
all the time. Therapist, those are your clients and my
clients are different. So that's how it's supposed to be.
So it's not a debate with that.

Speaker 36 (02:31:19):
Your clients are your clients.

Speaker 7 (02:31:22):
Your clients and my clients.

Speaker 26 (02:31:24):
You know that.

Speaker 35 (02:31:25):
Do you know that mama is stating a fact. He's
trying to call that ship off fact.

Speaker 8 (02:31:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 38 (02:31:34):
I think that that's her opinion and based off of
her experience, Based off of her experience. She has every
right to feel, think and say what she wants.

Speaker 7 (02:31:47):
If you're if you.

Speaker 35 (02:31:49):
Were on the same page, he is calling it a fact.

Speaker 4 (02:31:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 12 (02:31:55):
It is an observable fact.

Speaker 35 (02:31:56):
Me and you we have more sense than a lady booth.

Speaker 8 (02:32:03):
Okay, so.

Speaker 7 (02:32:05):
It applies to us in the rule.

Speaker 18 (02:32:07):
Anybody ever heard of Confucianism?

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
All right?

Speaker 38 (02:32:15):
And so I think that we gotta be more consciously
aware of that when we have these type of conversations,
otherwise nobody's gonna make sense. And so this is this
is why I like Chinese people. I'm sorry, because of
the culture. It's a it's a it's a sense of
honor and respect that they give each other unconsciously.

Speaker 25 (02:32:36):
And that's just something that we all have to learn
how to grow to do.

Speaker 23 (02:32:39):
And that's just that.

Speaker 38 (02:32:40):
And so your opinion is your opinion. Her opinion is
her opinion. Because see, here's the other reality. I can't
say that she didn't experience what she didn't experience. I
can't say he didn't experience because at the end of
the day, based off of our own experiences, these are
our own facts. They've been proven to you, whoever else

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it happens.

Speaker 2 (02:33:01):
To, that's just that.

Speaker 31 (02:33:02):
No, no, it's not, because that's the false dichotomy, a
logical fallacy, that's the false equivalency. What I'm stating here
is the matter of my personal opinion. It's observed reality.
Black women in the black love machine can and will
pay millions of dollars to have black men tell them
both face lies.

Speaker 4 (02:33:21):
That's what I like you.

Speaker 36 (02:33:22):
I like you.

Speaker 38 (02:33:22):
I agree with what you said, so forgive that. Now,
wait a minute, you cut me off. So I agree
you said what I said, and I agree with what
you said about women. Women pay for whatever they want
to pay for.

Speaker 25 (02:33:33):
If they got it.

Speaker 8 (02:33:34):
That's the thing.

Speaker 38 (02:33:35):
If a woman got you, and that's what she chooses
to do, and and her response to that is doing that,
that's that's her thing.

Speaker 28 (02:33:42):
That's a you think.

Speaker 38 (02:33:43):
And so you again, you have proven for you your
own factual life that these happen for you in your will.
And unfortunately for other people they didn't have to or
they didn't experience that. And fortunately, because some people don't
deserve that, some people do. And it's it's good for people.
It's good for not good for some. And again, that's

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what makes us all uniquely different, all right. And that's
why I asked about that one word, because that's the
logic of it all. You're supposed to have you opinion.
I'm supposed to have mine. That's what That's what brings
us in the harmony, that's a debate. This is how
we all become great.

Speaker 36 (02:34:17):
Well, I just want to say my entire life, I've
been a heterosexual woman, and I've dated nothing but men.
I've married nothing but men. So I have experience because
I've dated nothing but men. And mister Momiya, if you've
dated nothing but men your whole life, then I'm sure
you have some valuable information too, I'll hold Okay.

Speaker 31 (02:34:39):
So, so really, once again we have a logical fallacy,
this one being you know, appeal to authority.

Speaker 12 (02:34:44):
Okay, so let's let's play this out so again for
the third time.

Speaker 31 (02:34:49):
I never denied that there were men out there that were,
you know, performing meaning another word for faking the fump
right that they're they're they're being insincere.

Speaker 12 (02:34:59):
I never denied that. I'll be the first to admit it.
What I'm saying is, if that.

Speaker 31 (02:35:05):
Is the tenor in tone of your discussion around these issues,
then at some point the errow of causation has to
go in the opposite direction, meaning from.

Speaker 4 (02:35:13):
Them to you.

Speaker 31 (02:35:14):
It's something about you that keeps attracting men who have
ill intentions. Now, whether or not you're prepared to, you know,
look in the mirror on that all as a Jedi
trials look it up or whether you're not is another
you know, conversation to have My personal observation is very
few women are willing to do that.

Speaker 12 (02:35:34):
Very few.

Speaker 31 (02:35:34):
That's the reason why if you notice there, you know,
when we have these conversations, they're typically framed as societal causes, right,
so you know, it's framed as a as a kind
of a morphous you know, big social concern instead of
one of personal responsibility an agency because for many women

(02:35:54):
that's very difficult to have. But but I mean, if
you want to tell me they're bad men out there,
I'm like, all right, and in other news, water is wet,
I ask him to change for me.

Speaker 8 (02:36:06):
Wouldn't that.

Speaker 56 (02:36:09):
Wouldn't the implicit assumption there be that most men have
good intentions?

Speaker 12 (02:36:17):
Would the implicit assumption be that most men have good intentions?

Speaker 31 (02:36:20):
Well, depending on how you define intentions, because this this
can range from you know, simple lying about doing yoga
and being vegan all the way to much more egregious acts.
So that's kind of like a sliding scale. But I
would say that you know, fifty one percent or better
of men are you know, they basically have good intentions

(02:36:40):
or better intentions on what as far as women are concerned.
So in so far as mating is concerned, So you know, guys,
you know, you must take a woman out for a day.
He really does want to take a woman out for a.

Speaker 12 (02:36:52):
Day, et cetera.

Speaker 31 (02:36:53):
You know, I'm just fascinated by the way it was
worded so stridently that that's what most men are doing.

Speaker 12 (02:37:02):
And nobody caught her on that.

Speaker 31 (02:37:03):
Nobody said, wait a minute, hold on a second, you
really believe most men walking around and doing it like
nobody caught it.

Speaker 12 (02:37:08):
I'm the only one that caught it. I'm like, wait
the hold it. You're telling me that most men waking
walking around are up to no good. Most men are
faking the funk. That's what you're telling me. Is something
warped with that type of thinking.

Speaker 31 (02:37:25):
That's a distorted type of thinking that is so pervasive
in Black American culture. We don't we just consider it
white noise. So I'm very sensitive to these sorts of things,
you know. I'm in tune with the powers of the force.
So that's the reason why I caught it. I said,
wait a minute, hold it, lady. If you're the one,
you're the X factor. You know an algebra, you're the

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ex You're the X factor. If you keep encountering men
like that, then a jew's.

Speaker 36 (02:37:57):
You want to attack the person and not the point.

Speaker 50 (02:37:59):
I get it.

Speaker 12 (02:37:59):
I I address, I address, but to be fair with me,
because you say addressed.

Speaker 56 (02:38:05):
To be fair, you said fifty one percent, which is
damn near half.

Speaker 10 (02:38:09):
Right, Well it's over half?

Speaker 12 (02:38:10):
Actually well no, no, Well.

Speaker 57 (02:38:11):
I'm talking about the negative, right, because if you say
fifty one percent is positive, that means forty nine percent
is negative, and that's damn near half. Okay, right, so
half is a lot, it is, right, So I don't
if you're going to say half of men might have
ill intent, then I don't get care to them say well,
women are primarily attracting men of ill intent because it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:34):
Is women are not.

Speaker 12 (02:38:38):
Well, how about how about this? How about this? How
about I got a great idea.

Speaker 31 (02:38:42):
How about you go over to the women who didn't
attract those guys and god, the guys asked them.

Speaker 12 (02:38:47):
Listen me ask you a question, real talk. How did
you get a good guy? I'm just I'm just curious.
How did that happen? Crazy idea?

Speaker 22 (02:38:56):
I know because she wasn't fake?

Speaker 12 (02:39:02):
How'd you do it?

Speaker 2 (02:39:04):
Oh?

Speaker 35 (02:39:04):
Mia, you know you've been talking for over half of.

Speaker 12 (02:39:11):
I'm sorry, what will that.

Speaker 35 (02:39:13):
Course? He didn't hear that you've been talking for thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
Oh, Ship Albert, I just came back the Gender.

Speaker 58 (02:39:23):
Wars house, and your point is, and your point is,
you're talking for thirty minutes.

Speaker 36 (02:39:32):
And he's performing, Doctor Albert. It's okay, he's performing.

Speaker 5 (02:39:40):
I know you know.

Speaker 31 (02:39:41):
It would be it would be much better if you
would ask me what it is that I'm doing instead
of assuming, because chances are you going to be very wrong.

Speaker 12 (02:39:48):
We all know what what are you doing here with me?

Speaker 26 (02:39:51):
And what what?

Speaker 12 (02:39:52):
What's the point of it all?

Speaker 4 (02:39:53):
Be curious.

Speaker 56 (02:39:54):
I want to be curious.

Speaker 12 (02:39:56):
Don't assume. Ask a question.

Speaker 35 (02:39:58):
Ask a question, Get some osages, hold home, ship, God damn.

Speaker 12 (02:40:04):
We don't need you to white night. Doctor.

Speaker 8 (02:40:06):
She's okay.

Speaker 35 (02:40:10):
I'm not taking I'm not talking to uh nacho man.

Speaker 50 (02:40:14):
She she liked talking to you, so I wouldn't have
went this long, which But I'm just talking to everybody
that respects Gender Wars. Shout out to my man stack, myself,
yours truly, stunner, you know what I'm saying. Shout out
to the people. Shout out to the unicorn lailor, my girl,
my big.

Speaker 58 (02:40:34):
Dog Rosie, Uh Mama, the long winded one, Delvin, Mama,
send you reader brother, uh you know, the honorable PhD,
my homie.

Speaker 54 (02:40:46):
My brother, Frank, Nacho and Bert and Bert. That's people
right there, and diego the big dog, doctor Vine and
the incomparable doctor. And please give me for this for
the info. Marshal call Momea.

Speaker 35 (02:41:03):
We're gonna get right back to it.

Speaker 2 (02:41:07):
I appreciate you, Albert. Listen, if you guys are just
now joining, we're in gender Wars. Ping the room out,
share the room out. I appreciate my ir ladies for
holding me down. Doctor Vaughn Stunner, Layla Rosie, everybody Rico PhD.
Like I said, Nacho and but everybody else here. I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:41:22):
Light skin Man, I don't care like skin man. Okay, relaxed,
light skin Man. Now we got a new topic on
the table. Ping it out, share it out to everybody
on the list. Gender Wars is breaking it open. Albert
will be opening right after. When Albert opens his room,
you guys can go over there. We're gonna be talking
about a dope topic. So Albert, make sure that you
you know, promoting that in the chat. Putting that in

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the chat that way you guys can be aware.

Speaker 16 (02:41:45):
Of what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:41:46):
But we have a new topic on the table, Albert,
you did, Aliba, women are to love or.

Speaker 12 (02:41:53):
Easy to lose.

Speaker 16 (02:41:55):
I'm gonna say again.

Speaker 1 (02:41:57):
I know you're gonna want to hop in and jump in,
but ping the room out and that way, you know
that hinder Wars is motherfucking live in the hallway. We
got about what eight ten episodes now, Albert, we've been
going crazy, so let's keep going. Our alpha women hard
to love or easy to lose? Are they too masculine?

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Are they push Are they pushing you around? Are they
pushing you against the wall and and hinging you up?

Speaker 3 (02:42:24):
Huh?

Speaker 10 (02:42:25):
What's on?

Speaker 8 (02:42:27):
Let's go?

Speaker 2 (02:42:27):
The floor is open? An alpha woman hard to love
or easy to lose?

Speaker 4 (02:42:31):
This this is a real good one.

Speaker 48 (02:42:35):
I think they are easy to love and hard to lose.
They can't get rid of an apple woman that they're
easy to love. You love her, you can't help yourself.
You just hate that she's so apha, but she's still
hard to lose for real.

Speaker 1 (02:42:51):
Nah, I feel like I need I need a little
bit of But if you try to me, you feel
me stunning you you hit me with that? If you
try to me, we're gonna have a I like the
little bit I know, but it can't be too it
can't be more than Martin though. That's what we're gonna
have to disconnect.

Speaker 16 (02:43:11):
You feel me.

Speaker 7 (02:43:12):
I'm gonna let you.

Speaker 16 (02:43:16):
And y'all know what I mean with the right Layelah.

Speaker 50 (02:43:18):
You know now, doctor, you don't know what I mean.

Speaker 28 (02:43:22):
You're crazy?

Speaker 15 (02:43:24):
Alpha woman? What's an alpha woman? Yeah, expedition.

Speaker 1 (02:43:28):
This is a woman that doesn't listen to her man
and tells him what to do, and it doesn't submit,
does not submit no matter what. Donner you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:43:39):
It could be the man, could be leading, the man,
could be a but it's something in you. You just
don't want to submit to that man.

Speaker 8 (02:43:46):
You's just that she don't just as well.

Speaker 4 (02:43:51):
As you do.

Speaker 59 (02:43:53):
Non compliant, So being non compliant and difficult to be
around makes her an alpha woman.

Speaker 15 (02:44:02):
You sure you're not talking about a gay male relationship?

Speaker 28 (02:44:09):
What damn?

Speaker 8 (02:44:11):
Shots fired?

Speaker 35 (02:44:13):
Shots?

Speaker 15 (02:44:15):
I'm just mean I said, I don't see her.

Speaker 35 (02:44:23):
Yeah, I don't know what an alpha woman is.

Speaker 15 (02:44:27):
I don't. I'm really I don't.

Speaker 8 (02:44:30):
You know you ain't never.

Speaker 36 (02:44:30):
Seen a boss bitch before.

Speaker 4 (02:44:36):
Me.

Speaker 7 (02:44:36):
Let me throw this out here to the room.

Speaker 48 (02:44:38):
Most alpha women are the mothers, are single mothers who
take care of their responsibility very well. She pay her bills,
she take her kids, She's on top of everything. That's
mostly considered those alpha women. So get get hurt into
a relationship.

Speaker 7 (02:44:55):
She doesn't apply.

Speaker 48 (02:45:00):
She's handling things and running things in a relationship. They
like to call her an alpha woman.

Speaker 36 (02:45:09):
That's a trauma response a woman.

Speaker 4 (02:45:13):
It is.

Speaker 7 (02:45:13):
It is an adult absolutely, I mean, the age is
going to make her an adult.

Speaker 48 (02:45:17):
However, she's so used to handling things on her own days,
she's not so much with another with a man coming
in kind of telling her to do this and do that.

Speaker 35 (02:45:24):
She already knew how to stand home.

Speaker 7 (02:45:25):
We're talking about a woman.

Speaker 36 (02:45:27):
We're talking about a woman who wears the pants in
the relationship. A woman who a woman whose man asked
her what time it is and what we're doing and
where we're going?

Speaker 4 (02:45:39):
Uh.

Speaker 36 (02:45:39):
A man who has no problem getting in the passenger
seat while his woman drives a car.

Speaker 2 (02:45:44):
He's the passenger princess.

Speaker 4 (02:45:46):
Hello, did you get.

Speaker 16 (02:45:51):
Where we're going?

Speaker 27 (02:45:51):
Downstairs?

Speaker 22 (02:45:52):
You get I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (02:45:52):
Say, he's the baddy, You know what I mean. Let's go,
let's continue. Well, that's what they call the partner.

Speaker 51 (02:46:01):
That's why the bullshit about partners, you see, this is
exactly I'm glad this is a title stack because this
is where this partner bs comes from. I'm not no
damn partner to no woman thereforeced it. I'm running the
goddamn show. And if she don't like it, she can
find some handering girly soft back dude that's gonna let
her run the damn show and be the so called

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out for woman in the relationship. To me, there's no
such thing as an for woman. She's a lady, she's
a woman. She's my woman, or she's somebody else's out
for woman. She ain't mine, and she won't be in
these damn spaces, that's what damn sure.

Speaker 38 (02:46:39):
Wait, let me just let me just get them a
little clarity really quickly. I'm gonna read this out. An
out for woman is typically described as a strong, confident,
and assertive woman who often takes the lead in her
personal or professional life.

Speaker 15 (02:46:52):
She's usually seen as someone.

Speaker 38 (02:46:54):
Who is confident, believes in herself and her abilities without
needing its cernle validation. She's independent, emotionally, financially and mentally
self sufficient, assertive, speaks her mind and sets clear boundaries.
Leader often takes charge naturally and inspires others to follow. Ambitious,
goal oriented and driven to succeed. Resilient bounces back from

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setbacks and adapts to challenges. Charismatic commands attention and respect,
often through presence and communication, skills, decisive mix firm choices
and sticks by them. And lastly, high standards. Expects excellence
from herself and often from others. And then it says
an alpha woman doesn't need a partner to feel complete,

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but chooses one who complete, compliments her, respect, her autonomy,
and adds value to her life.

Speaker 7 (02:47:44):
Right, you don't think that anyone shout out to maya. Yeah,
shout out to you guys.

Speaker 9 (02:47:52):
I don't think that anyone will deny that that particular
set of skills set can be something that can be
a positive.

Speaker 5 (02:48:00):
Right.

Speaker 9 (02:48:00):
It can be You're a leader, you go to work,
you have a career, you have all these things. I
think the problem with that is that most women cannot
walk the line between professional and being in family. And
I think that's problematic because if I think that about myself,
then it's only a matter of time. And I'm just
saying we with Diego wrote that me and you clash,

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it's only a matter of time before we come to
a head. It's only gonna happen in a matter of
time if you can't straddle and walk the line. I
don't care what you do professionally, who you are, you're
following your clout whatever.

Speaker 12 (02:48:35):
At some point, you're gonna buy into your own height.

Speaker 9 (02:48:38):
You're gonna buy into the height that you have, and
either I take a regressive position and let you take
what you consider to be in charge position at that time,
or were just gonna clash and we're gonna come to
a stalemate. That's all that's gonna happen. We both cannot
operate in that same sense eventually, no matter how long
we do it for, eventually discussions and disagreements are going

(02:49:02):
to come to a head with nobody is looking to
bow out. Nobody is looking to bow out. So I'm
not saying that that's a totally bad thing. I don't
think that a lot of those women have a lot
of long lasting, successful marriages.

Speaker 16 (02:49:16):
You're not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:49:20):
Unless she.

Speaker 4 (02:49:23):
Beyonce.

Speaker 56 (02:49:26):
Have you ever heard cater to you?

Speaker 35 (02:49:29):
She's not no alpha Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:49:36):
Albert after Diego just broke down that ship.

Speaker 16 (02:49:38):
Did he say that after after Diego just.

Speaker 2 (02:49:41):
Broke down that ship, You're gonna say beyond.

Speaker 8 (02:49:45):
He's an alpha.

Speaker 58 (02:49:47):
Profession broke it down, Brochelle Obama.

Speaker 25 (02:49:53):
Yes, I question for the men. So quick question for
the men.

Speaker 38 (02:50:04):
If you're at the supermarket, you see this beautiful woman
in the dairy aisle. You're picking up your favorite cheese
or whatever it is that you'll be doing in a
supermarket because y'all don't cook.

Speaker 12 (02:50:14):
But you see this screen.

Speaker 15 (02:50:18):
You see this beautiful woman.

Speaker 18 (02:50:20):
Y'all exchange numbers.

Speaker 38 (02:50:22):
You're sitting across each other, first date, and she says, yes,
you know, I worked really hard.

Speaker 7 (02:50:27):
This is what I do.

Speaker 38 (02:50:27):
I'm an alpha woman. She describes herself as an alpha woman.
To you, put a one in the chat. If that
is the last date you were ever taking her on.
Put a two in the chat. If that does not
bother you, you'll ask her out again.

Speaker 22 (02:50:39):
She's out of here next.

Speaker 4 (02:50:43):
Yeah, but that's the.

Speaker 36 (02:50:44):
Type of man. It's a type of man who can
appreciate the alpha woman. Right, Maybe you're just not that
kind of guy because you gotta have control.

Speaker 7 (02:50:53):
You have to drive the car.

Speaker 36 (02:50:55):
Right, you're the one who has to call the shots,
and there's no co pilot where you are.

Speaker 35 (02:51:00):
But if you're the kind of.

Speaker 36 (02:51:01):
Man who doesn't mind riding passenger, right, maybe even riding
in the back seat and letting your woman call the shots,
then you might appreciate.

Speaker 22 (02:51:11):
That kind of woman.

Speaker 13 (02:51:13):
I think most men. I think most men have understanding.
They only have one mother. I don't know, that's just
my opinion.

Speaker 7 (02:51:23):
I think you have to be evolved.

Speaker 38 (02:51:25):
You know that comes with experience in life, understanding and accountability.
At the end of the day, you hear something so
much and at some point you got to acknowledge it
and and hold yourself accountable to it. So I think
in alpha male, which most men do like and you
kind of want to be with, I think it's one

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of those things where you have to have an evolved
woman where again we know how to There are some
women that don't know how, there are some that do.
Kind of you got to learn how to disconnect from work,
disconnect from problematic situations and things, and you gotta learn
how to disconnect. So until you can kind of get
to that point in that space, then you're gonna have
this attitude, You're gonna have this level of aggression. You're

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gonna have this only nobody type of aura.

Speaker 36 (02:52:11):
You know.

Speaker 38 (02:52:11):
Again, as an evolved person, as you grow through life,
you learn to live and let live and let go
on different things.

Speaker 56 (02:52:19):
I want to very briefly have a dialogue. I want
to very briefly have a dialogue with Nacho because I
think I was the only guy in the chat who
put it to the Diego's question.

Speaker 3 (02:52:28):
Before you go, I just saw it.

Speaker 5 (02:52:32):
I did you see that?

Speaker 22 (02:52:34):
Definitely that's the kind.

Speaker 28 (02:52:35):
Of dude that's gonna go for this.

Speaker 51 (02:52:38):
Yes, And if you want to share it at the top,
please do so people can see what this dude looks like.

Speaker 56 (02:52:45):
So, Nacho, tell me what you think of this. If
you could name one thing, right, obviously there's a litney
of thing, but if you could name one thing that
quote unquote runs the world, what would you say? Okay,
that's a Beyonce line who runs the world?

Speaker 4 (02:53:04):
Girls? Right?

Speaker 56 (02:53:05):
The word I would use is force, right.

Speaker 16 (02:53:10):
I mean, he's a lot of fun, all right.

Speaker 56 (02:53:11):
The word I would use is force right, because you know,
human beings try to cooperate, but ultimately, whoever has power
is the one who has the most force at their possession, right,
So generally that's governments. Right, They're the only ones who
are allowed to develop certain types of weapons. Right. I'm

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mentioning that because in the dynamic, in a relationship dynamic
where the woman wants to be in alpha, right, she
has to disconnect from that reality.

Speaker 8 (02:53:41):
She just has to.

Speaker 56 (02:53:42):
She has to have all the power but none of
the real force. The person who has the real force
is being told that he has to basically tuck his legs,
I mean, his tail between his legs and let her
quote unquote lead. And I'm not just saying that in
a threatening way if there is an actual Oh, she
got on the phone, so I guess if she when

(02:54:03):
she comes off the phone, I'll finish the point because
I really wanted her response to.

Speaker 10 (02:54:06):
That jumping doctor.

Speaker 8 (02:54:14):
Okay, okay, right.

Speaker 56 (02:54:17):
So I'm not saying, because again I put the two
in the chat, I would date an alpha female. But
that doesn't mean I'm not aware that that relationship has
to look very different from a typical heterosexual, monogamous relationship, right,
because the woman does not want to take the responsibility
that comes with the power that she seeking, right, which

(02:54:40):
makes the man a crash dummy, at least in the
instance where the man wants the power, he also has
to do the protecting. But women want power and absolutely
no responsibility to protect.

Speaker 36 (02:54:54):
And to that, you say, what, Well, a true alpha
woman understands that there's an illusion of patriarchy here, and
she'll buy into it, oh God, and hype her man
up right right, And on the outside it might even
appear like he is the leader, but on the inside

(02:55:15):
you would never know she was the literal one doing
the whole operation. In the South, those wives, they have
the same right. The man is the head, the woman
is the neck, and the neck turns the head any
which way it wants. And so yes, the man can
be the protector, but she's still the queen and the queendom.

Speaker 4 (02:55:36):
And I'll you get it, all.

Speaker 56 (02:55:37):
Right, But do you understand that that reduces him to
the crash dummy?

Speaker 36 (02:55:41):
Now you're getting into you know, subjective, that's very subjective.

Speaker 4 (02:55:48):
Because if this.

Speaker 56 (02:55:49):
Man, spider man, we've all seen the uncle Ben said
when he was dying, Well, great power comes great responsibility,
and that dynamic women want the power but not the
responsibility of protection.

Speaker 26 (02:56:02):
Right.

Speaker 56 (02:56:02):
No man can get away with that. No man can
say I'm the head of his house. But if we're
in physical danger, you better knuckle up. No man can
get away with that, right in that alpha woman dynamic,
that's absolutely what she wants.

Speaker 36 (02:56:20):
Well, I think you're making I think you're protecting at
all perspective, and we're.

Speaker 7 (02:56:28):
Talking about it.

Speaker 4 (02:56:29):
I'll play devil's advocate for you.

Speaker 7 (02:56:31):
So you wanted to dialogue, because you're not talking.

Speaker 10 (02:56:35):
Four minutes, I'm gonna give it to you.

Speaker 56 (02:56:38):
Answer my question, I'm gonna give it to you.

Speaker 4 (02:56:42):
Pause.

Speaker 56 (02:56:42):
But look, notch, Look, I'll help you debate me. Right,
because we live in a relatively safe world. Right, because
violence is decreasing for the most part. And of course
you know you don't appreciate that part of patriarchy. You
just think it's oppression. Right, But because we live in
a relatively safe world, Yeah, most people won't have instances
where they need physical protection from their partner being threatened

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by someone outside of the relationship. In most instances, it
will be the partner that they need physical protection from.
And also, generally speaking, is going to be the man, right,
he's going to have to protect himself from the woman
since women initiate most domestic violence cases. But that's a
separate issue. Again, you don't have to answer this, but
I want.

Speaker 36 (02:57:29):
Because the conversation is baiting, so you can just.

Speaker 4 (02:57:31):
I'm not baiting at all.

Speaker 10 (02:57:32):
I made a very going around.

Speaker 4 (02:57:37):
Her opinion.

Speaker 56 (02:57:38):
All right, So I guess I'll just I'll just I'll
just land with saying this. This is why the alpha
woman trope doesn't work, because it's never it's never coupled
with the appropriate responsibility. I like what Lewis said, we
only have one mother. And I'll say another thing. Most
men don't want to be crashed dummies unless they're getting paid.

Speaker 8 (02:57:57):
Right.

Speaker 56 (02:57:58):
Women don't want to pay men to submit to them.
They want those men to continue to add value to
their lives. And that's just not sustainable or reciprocal.

Speaker 40 (02:58:08):
Shout out to that, Like y'all, y'all do be taking
five minutes to say something y'all can say in fifty seconds.

Speaker 10 (02:58:12):
But you know we got number of time. Yeah, so
just listening, y'all.

Speaker 40 (02:58:17):
I guess this is all silly, Like there's no such
thing as an alpha woman in either wolf culture or
social hierarchies. Like this is the delusion that women actually
are men allow women to be so fucking delusional, Like
women will literally think that the fact that a man
gave them power, that they're the powerful ones.

Speaker 10 (02:58:36):
Like, no, the nigga who gave you power to wield
is the alpha, not you.

Speaker 40 (02:58:40):
But y'all think, well, this nigga gave me power, so
now I'm the a. You're not the alpha because alphas
die or if you the alpha in the pack, they
will kill you to take yours. Y'all can't stop no
nigga if a nigga won't you and want to take
your power. But doctor Albert saying doctor Bez, that's a fact, y'all,
y'all still are the best, doctor bis. Y'all should y'all

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should you think about what an alpha does? He can't
be nothing but an alpha. It's the same concept that
women saying, you know what, I'm a bread winner because
ain't no other nigga there. You're the bread winner by default.
When y'all call it, y'allselves an alpha. Y'all the alpha
by default because ain't nobody else there but you. And
that's we're talking about hierarchy, right. So when it comes

(02:59:23):
with the people, you're not the alpha. Ain't just think
it's an alpha.

Speaker 16 (02:59:26):
Woman, you don't have no power.

Speaker 40 (02:59:28):
Now, wish car would have stuck to that point because
that was the point where you won it. You have
no power women have. The second men say, y'all, niggas
are back in chains. Guess where y'all at? Back in chains?
Who gave you y'all freedom?

Speaker 2 (02:59:41):
Men?

Speaker 10 (02:59:43):
How can you be an alpha?

Speaker 16 (02:59:44):
You can't even be free on your own?

Speaker 10 (02:59:46):
Are you an alpha?

Speaker 8 (02:59:47):
You have no power?

Speaker 12 (02:59:49):
You have nothing, you have nothing.

Speaker 40 (02:59:51):
The second men say, you know what, that's enough? Ah Ya, y'all,
donet did enough? You don't you done got your little sassin?
It's off enough. Well, we're tired of it. You don't
hate it enough. I ain't nobody loving you. You ain't
had a hug in a while. Your oxytocin is low.
All that stuff you want to come up in you
know club, that's enough, that's enough. The second men say
that what y'all gonna do nothing because there's nothing you

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can do.

Speaker 16 (03:00:14):
You are the weaker vessel, so you will never be
the alpha.

Speaker 4 (03:00:18):
You're not.

Speaker 16 (03:00:18):
Don't watch anymore?

Speaker 8 (03:00:20):
Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 38 (03:00:22):
Really really quick than yell? Maya's gonna go and then
you could go right off the maya.

Speaker 60 (03:00:26):
Hey, y'all, good afternoon, Thank you? So I wanted to,
So I was trying to figure out, like, first of all,
the term alpha woman, like, I've never used that, so
I had to look it up. So that's why I
looked it up.

Speaker 21 (03:00:42):
Because it's like, what the heck is an alpha woman?

Speaker 5 (03:00:44):
Right?

Speaker 60 (03:00:45):
I think the characteristics that were described were something that
would work well in a relationship. I think it would
work well if that man is in any way, shape
or form or taking out of his leadership role, whether
it be in sickness or death of anything. I think

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that's where the importance of what type of woman you
chose for your family would come in of importance. You
don't want someone who's not resilient, you don't want someone
who's not confident. You don't want someone who can figure
out how to pivot and all this stuff like that.
So I think it's one of those things where it's

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the type of woman that you look for that you know,
in your absence, she's gonna be able to maintain your
family and.

Speaker 18 (03:01:39):
Hold it together.

Speaker 60 (03:01:40):
So that's just how I saw it. But I wouldn't
necessarily call her an alpha female. I would just call
her a good candidate for somebody to make your family work.

Speaker 55 (03:01:51):
So that's all I wanted to add, Oh, what happens
when the alpha woman alpha's her man? I think that's
really where their problem lies because the characteristics in it
in themselves are not necessarily bad.

Speaker 18 (03:02:06):
But when you want to, I.

Speaker 3 (03:02:09):
Guess they call it sunning.

Speaker 61 (03:02:10):
Now, like, at what point do you act like your
your husband's boss, or your husband's mother or you know,
or his alpha. I think it sounds like when the
men are talking, that's really where the problem lies.

Speaker 12 (03:02:25):
And if she's able to do it, he needs it.

Speaker 48 (03:02:29):
Like all men out here ain't moving a certain way
to run shit. So if she's able to do it,
that mean that man needs it. I mean it's probably
a dis alpha.

Speaker 16 (03:02:36):
Though done, don't make an alpha. Like again that the
words have meanings, right.

Speaker 48 (03:02:42):
But the definition of the word has already been put
on the floor. So if we gree, if we agree
to the definition, and it's just what it is.

Speaker 40 (03:02:48):
Alpha Yeah, yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about,
because that's where alpha comes from pack harchies.

Speaker 16 (03:02:54):
So without a pack, you can't be an alpha.

Speaker 7 (03:02:56):
The pack would be the family that would.

Speaker 8 (03:02:59):
Be playing a pack.

Speaker 10 (03:03:01):
That's a duo that is a we talked about family.

Speaker 53 (03:03:06):
You have a person.

Speaker 7 (03:03:09):
I just said a husband, wife and children. That's the path.

Speaker 10 (03:03:12):
Who's added children?

Speaker 16 (03:03:14):
You just said two people?

Speaker 19 (03:03:15):
I added.

Speaker 7 (03:03:18):
Because because you just go ahead, No.

Speaker 35 (03:03:25):
Stunning says.

Speaker 7 (03:03:29):
Say that again.

Speaker 35 (03:03:30):
The show go on. Sip some tea green. I would
hope just let the show Diego's general work. She's done,
she's done the job. Nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:03:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 35 (03:03:44):
Show time to your poem.

Speaker 26 (03:03:47):
I don't know what.

Speaker 7 (03:03:49):
You can I ask you a question to be what.

Speaker 16 (03:03:52):
Did you do?

Speaker 8 (03:03:53):
Now?

Speaker 16 (03:03:53):
I'm not doing questions.

Speaker 10 (03:03:54):
What did you do?

Speaker 28 (03:03:55):
Diego?

Speaker 16 (03:03:56):
She's on the phone, dare, Oh yeah, I haven't made
it yet.

Speaker 8 (03:04:08):
Foot pull.

Speaker 10 (03:04:09):
I gotta get back to the States. I would like movie.

Speaker 40 (03:04:11):
I would like to let mama uh stand in the
tribute for me to answer please, thank you, yeah, saying
there for me.

Speaker 10 (03:04:21):
Ask mama whatever move.

Speaker 7 (03:04:24):
Mia says, he don't know nothing about my shirt.

Speaker 4 (03:04:27):
No, not you.

Speaker 10 (03:04:28):
Your question.

Speaker 26 (03:04:29):
I can answer.

Speaker 40 (03:04:30):
Whoever else had the question. Mama is gonna answer because
Mami is the smart one there.

Speaker 50 (03:04:34):
I got a wager he's probably gonna say David bus
three times.

Speaker 8 (03:04:41):
So I guess my question is general.

Speaker 62 (03:04:43):
Then, So if we're going by the concept of men
gave us power and that's why you know, we can
never be whatever. Right, is it safe to say that
black men don't have power either because y'all didn't.

Speaker 8 (03:04:58):
Y'all were slaves, and so white people decided to let
you free.

Speaker 35 (03:05:01):
And that's the case.

Speaker 4 (03:05:03):
So I mean.

Speaker 16 (03:05:06):
Taking this with Mama, I don't answer dumb questions. You
won't take this one.

Speaker 31 (03:05:10):
I'm not going to answer that dumb question either, but
I will say, but I will say to doctor Albert,
be fortunate that I'm not a gambling man, or you'd
be uh your while it would be quite a bit lighter.
I was going to mention that Franz, the late the
late Franz do while he unfortunately passed passed away, I
think a little bit earlier this year World Class Primatologists.

(03:05:31):
He has a really good ted talk over on YouTube
about alpha males. He studies, in particular chimpanzees, and the
way the whole alpha thing works is in line with
what doctor B was talking about.

Speaker 12 (03:05:49):
He used the word pack.

Speaker 31 (03:05:51):
They use the word troop with regard the primates in
this case chimpanzees. But the but the point is still made.
You have to make coalitions. You have to make coalitions
with others who put you in power. In this case
the male, alpha male. He has to be you know, socially,
you know aware, he has to be. He has to
you know, keep his coalition partners happy, h with females

(03:06:13):
and food he had, you know, he has to he
has to settle disputes. There's no beefing where you know
with you know, with alphas, they settle disputes, they stand
up for the little guy. Is very it's a very
you know, stressful type of thing. But it's basically, you're
a politician for the for the most part. And so
what I would, yeah, Franz do wal check him outs.

(03:06:33):
Matter of fact is one of his best known books
is Chimpanzee Politics.

Speaker 12 (03:06:37):
Excellent excellent read.

Speaker 50 (03:06:39):
So, yeah, that's that's what I want, man, because you be,
you be. Let me get my little words. Because so
you got seahorses. The male carries the children and women
become alpha. You got shrews, the female shrews become alpha.
You got the black widow spider and the male spider.
The black widow eats the male. You got the lions

(03:07:01):
and the lioness. The lioness killed the male lion. If
he gets injured or sick or lose a fight with
another lion. The female giraffe takes the role of alpha
once she gets first.

Speaker 40 (03:07:15):
So stop, I mean like killing like that sounds like
the win man, MoMA, that sounds like the doing like you.

Speaker 12 (03:07:23):
Lost who's given the order?

Speaker 8 (03:07:26):
The new king man?

Speaker 35 (03:07:31):
He doesn't. He told me I will try to get help.
Does indeed help? He has it all figured out. He
wants to just name chimps and think nobody else.

Speaker 12 (03:07:40):
Well, actually, I was answering your question.

Speaker 31 (03:07:41):
You said he's gonna he's gonna cite David bus three times,
and I'm saying, no, I was going to cite Frank.

Speaker 11 (03:07:48):
You gotta be on that one.

Speaker 35 (03:07:49):
You got beyond the David. You say you have a
lot got.

Speaker 16 (03:07:54):
But come on, man, what time? What time you opening
that real quick?

Speaker 4 (03:08:00):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (03:08:03):
All right, So y'all, when when this is done, go
transfer the album's room. I got something to do in
the background. So if I check out, Albert shut this
down for me, bro, and then or Rosie shut it
down for me, and then that way y'all can transfer
to Alberts from I'm about.

Speaker 16 (03:08:16):
To go take.

Speaker 4 (03:08:18):
You know some time?

Speaker 16 (03:08:24):
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, be crazy.

Speaker 36 (03:08:31):
Yeah, good god, I'm only coppers. Hey, are alpha women?

Speaker 35 (03:08:41):
Hard to love her, easy to lose.

Speaker 36 (03:08:43):
Yeah, when he went down that chip path. I was
about to come up with some stuff too, but I'm
glad doctor Albert shut.

Speaker 7 (03:08:49):
It down so we don't have to go down that road.

Speaker 36 (03:08:52):
What's up, Danielle the relatior?

Speaker 7 (03:08:56):
Hey, how are you all?

Speaker 36 (03:08:58):
What do you think about this?

Speaker 16 (03:09:02):
I mean, that's no, not of what doctor Albert said
actually contradicted what you said.

Speaker 36 (03:09:06):
Yeah, a very intelligent woman finish like Danielle.

Speaker 8 (03:09:12):
Because we've listening to we were listening to.

Speaker 40 (03:09:15):
You talking about hour So what the we're gonna do
like the Spider Man.

Speaker 7 (03:09:17):
That's what I want to hear from Danielle.

Speaker 36 (03:09:20):
Want to because daniel I would consider Danielle an alpha woman.

Speaker 3 (03:09:24):
I don't just from what I know about her, I
wouldn't tear you that.

Speaker 7 (03:09:33):
You can't wait here, were about to get to know her.

Speaker 16 (03:09:36):
We got to hear Mamya, I don't want to hear.

Speaker 12 (03:09:39):
I was just I was, we don't want to hear
you exactly? What does she shut down?

Speaker 31 (03:09:44):
Because all I simply said, I just cited Franz do Wall.
I think it's his tik talk on on the politics
of alpha males what not. Fascinating look unfortunately passed away
earlier this year, and I just simply laid out exactly
you know what you know alphas do in a chimpanzee troop,
and it's not beating people down and all that, it's
actually being a very savvy politician.

Speaker 12 (03:10:07):
Now, if there are females that do that, great, go
for it.

Speaker 31 (03:10:17):
If there are human females that there's a human analog
to that, great, I'd love to see the examples of them.

Speaker 8 (03:10:25):
All right.

Speaker 40 (03:10:29):
Before they'll go again. If women were alphas, why didn't
men have to legislate laws for protection for y'all?

Speaker 16 (03:10:38):
That's it all, addie.

Speaker 62 (03:10:44):
Yeah, men had the institute laws because they recognize that
other men do degenerate ship.

Speaker 8 (03:10:50):
That my point.

Speaker 10 (03:10:50):
I mean, we always.

Speaker 16 (03:10:57):
Mh, I'm the alpha, you gotta protect me.

Speaker 2 (03:11:01):
It's crazy.

Speaker 35 (03:11:03):
Y'all have laws that protect y'all too.

Speaker 10 (03:11:07):
Who is y'all?

Speaker 16 (03:11:08):
I was talking to like the ether Usa, y'all.

Speaker 62 (03:11:11):
I'm talking about men in general.

Speaker 4 (03:11:14):
I know.

Speaker 7 (03:11:19):
She was so kind and.

Speaker 16 (03:11:22):
On and you guys are just like, why you interrupted me?

Speaker 4 (03:11:27):
Can we like.

Speaker 36 (03:11:30):
It's only Monday?

Speaker 16 (03:11:31):
No, I don't care what day it is, it's Thursday.
Don't interrupt me.

Speaker 12 (03:11:36):
On Jesus' Day.

Speaker 16 (03:11:36):
Don't interrupt me. O MoMA Day, don't interrupt me any more.

Speaker 4 (03:11:41):
Days.

Speaker 16 (03:11:42):
We got a Mama Day.

Speaker 40 (03:11:44):
June twenty second is now MoMA Day, and that's your day.
I'm now decreed that.

Speaker 8 (03:11:52):
I thought women could only be alphas amongst other women.

Speaker 35 (03:12:03):
Because you pull it.

Speaker 50 (03:12:04):
Up so I can check it out.

Speaker 22 (03:12:05):
That would be awesome reading.

Speaker 31 (03:12:12):
One thing, you know, one thing I found that was
fascinating ind Wall's work talking about chimpanzee politics is how
the alpha of.

Speaker 12 (03:12:20):
The group has to be a peacemaker. They they quickly,
you know, quell beats. There's no beefing. He quickly cools it.

Speaker 31 (03:12:29):
And not just among the male chimps, but also the
female chimps too, I mean, or up cool that out.

Speaker 12 (03:12:34):
They're a peacemaker. They stand up for the little guy,
you know.

Speaker 31 (03:12:37):
They won't allow any bullying or or you know, or
the lower ranked or literally smaller chimps to kind of
get you know, you know, taking advantage of anything like that.
They're very generous, particularly with females and and and you know,
I guess you could say infant chimps, you know, with
food and whatnot. So it was very fascinating to why

(03:13:01):
his his presentation. Like I said, I read his book
Champanzee Politics, really really interesting stuff on that.

Speaker 12 (03:13:07):
So again, if there's a female analog to that that,
i'd be uh you know the.

Speaker 54 (03:13:12):
Walk got it from the uh the apocrypha from the
Great three thousand years ago.

Speaker 22 (03:13:23):
Okay, yeah, check time.

Speaker 26 (03:13:26):
Will not.

Speaker 63 (03:13:30):
Speaks of server to nurturing and care turning bodies bout

(03:13:52):
see that, folks, and drain the polkey he just tied, did.

Speaker 18 (03:14:01):
Everybody go to sleep?

Speaker 36 (03:14:05):
We're just waiting on you know them, waiting on them
to not you know, want to center themselves because I
wanted to hear from Danielle and they interrupted her and now.

Speaker 16 (03:14:14):
We got to hear yourself. Funny how that works, don't
don't city fl so I can send them myself.

Speaker 3 (03:14:20):
You know what.

Speaker 36 (03:14:21):
Today today we had a lot of male minds, But
don't worry, we're gonna have a lot of It's gonna
be balent and y'all are going to be able to overpower.

Speaker 16 (03:14:30):
Us real quick. I appreciate y'all for being here right.

Speaker 1 (03:14:37):
Make sure y'all joining the house, make sure y'all are
supporting us, make sure y'all look like here for the
next conversation too, Albert, what's your conversation about, bro?

Speaker 2 (03:14:47):
So they can learn some more crazy ship. What are
you talking about?

Speaker 35 (03:14:50):
You know it's going to be kind of crazy, out
of my norm, but I have a fear. I believe
the manor actually uh there to pick bees and they're
the gold Dinners. Yeah, I actually believe this.

Speaker 22 (03:15:09):
I believe this to be true.

Speaker 16 (03:15:11):
That's just gonna be fucking nuts. ALBERTA that fucking room, bro.

Speaker 22 (03:15:14):
Absolutely, But you know a man is scared then space.

Speaker 16 (03:15:19):
Nah, we're going over there, Bro.

Speaker 25 (03:15:22):
Are you about to close?

Speaker 16 (03:15:23):
You about to close this room in a minute.

Speaker 1 (03:15:25):
Albert got a room coming up, right, Albert. Yeah, So
whenever Albert opens, to close it down on Rosie and then.

Speaker 16 (03:15:33):
Y'all can go over there.

Speaker 15 (03:15:34):
I just want to give my last little opinion on
this this.

Speaker 2 (03:15:37):
Title, diego appreciate.

Speaker 38 (03:15:41):
I think that I'm I didn't know what an awful
woman was, so I did have to look up the definition.
I'm not a man, so I don't know if whether
they would be hard or easy to to love or
lose whatever. I do think though, the concept of calling

(03:16:02):
oneself an alpha woman immediately makes me feel like you're
trying to compete with men. I don't even see how
this would even be a thing for women if they
weren't trying to make themselves equivalent to men. And I'm
not sure why y'all feel like you have to do that,
because being a woman like has its own strength, and

(03:16:24):
I think it is so unfortunate that women feel that
in order to be or feel strong, you have to
embody or try to be what men are like. You
can be a woman and still be strong. It's a
I feel sad for.

Speaker 15 (03:16:40):
Women that view their own femininity as something weak.

Speaker 11 (03:16:44):
Or or you know, I'm not.

Speaker 15 (03:16:46):
I don't know why, but so I just, you know,
I just I don't know this this idea.

Speaker 7 (03:16:51):
I feel like this.

Speaker 38 (03:16:52):
Whole term is just so you can kind of compare
yourself to men, and I just don't feel like women
have to.

Speaker 15 (03:16:59):
But that's just my two cents, that's all.

Speaker 36 (03:17:02):
I don't think it's a comparison to men.

Speaker 7 (03:17:05):
I mean it, I don't.

Speaker 62 (03:17:08):
I had to go look it up too, because I
don't use that terminology when it comes to speaking about women.
But from what I read, I mean, it's really just
about being firm in a position. You know, it doesn't
necessarily mean you comparing yourself to men, because you know
I'm gonna be assertive no matter who I'm around.

Speaker 36 (03:17:29):
It doesn't matter who I'm around.

Speaker 62 (03:17:31):
You know, I don't think it's a comparison, but I
definitely think that there's one of them trigger words that
makes people feel like you are trying to compare. So
I can't agree with you there, But I just don't
think that it's something that has to be compared to
men because it's really not that serious.

Speaker 64 (03:17:48):
I don't think that. I don't even think of alpha
female exists in my world. They don't, you know what
I'm saying. If it does, if it's a such thing,
it's only a cerchtem by weak ass dudes.

Speaker 2 (03:17:59):
That's a bit to these women. Don't man, ain't buy
none of that ship.

Speaker 7 (03:18:03):
So can I ask the man a question?

Speaker 8 (03:18:05):
What is your obsession over lording over people?

Speaker 4 (03:18:09):
Like?

Speaker 8 (03:18:09):
What is your obsession over like I have to be
in charge? Beating on my chest?

Speaker 36 (03:18:14):
What is your obsessing over that instead of working in collaboration.

Speaker 12 (03:18:18):
I think that's a hang on, hang on.

Speaker 31 (03:18:22):
I think that's the kind of how often do you
have you beaten your wife question? No man here has
expressed what you've asked about.

Speaker 4 (03:18:30):
No man here.

Speaker 31 (03:18:31):
I've been listening now for at least two hours. No
man here has expressed I have to be the overlord.
I have to run over I have to rule over everything.
I have to lord it over other people. No man
here has expressed that, including me. So that's that's that's
the kind of you know, how often do you beat
your wife?

Speaker 4 (03:18:47):
Question?

Speaker 12 (03:18:47):
I advise gentlemen, do not respond, yep.

Speaker 8 (03:18:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (03:18:56):
Answer the question.

Speaker 56 (03:18:57):
I'm gonna be the young rebel and responding to her,
because that is kind of a thing, even though it
hasn't been expressed.

Speaker 8 (03:19:02):
In this.

Speaker 2 (03:19:05):
He just did so.

Speaker 56 (03:19:07):
Danielle Danielle, with the exception to a few psychopathic, narcissistic men. Right,
the authority that a man has over a woman is
the justifying payoff for everything he's expected to provide and
the responsibility to sacrifice and protect. Right, And this isn't

(03:19:28):
just me Like the NI says, right that men are
supposed to provide for women. But then they also say,
you can't provide for and protect what you can't control. Right,
So there is an element of control that men want
when they make the sacrifice and the provision to be
with women. Right now, I know that that's not all men,

(03:19:48):
and I know in twenty twenty five fewer men are providers,
but generally speaking, women will make you pay a price
for not being a full provider, whether it's in disrespect,
whether it's in her keeping her eyes options open, whether
it's the access that she grants you.

Speaker 4 (03:20:04):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:20:04):
So, women are never completely playing a straight up game
if a man is not a full provider, and even
when he is a full provider, they're looking for ways
to not fully keep up their end of the bargain.

Speaker 2 (03:20:15):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:20:15):
So, I think that speaks to the phenomenon that you're
talking to, right, Men who provide want control. If it
isn't just psychopathic narcissism.

Speaker 51 (03:20:25):
Carl, real quick, I'm going to run this show. Whether
she's paying money into the household or not, I'm still
gonna be See this is what leads to some of
the delusion of some of these women thinking that, well,
the only way that I'll be all cooperated with him
if he's paying, If he's the soul provider man. Maybe
some other dudes might fall into that nonsense. But see

(03:20:48):
the thing is is that when men had less decades ago,
they got more cooperation. So when they had less when
they were here using their hands to build, move and
made less money, brought in pennies and quarters and dimes
and nickels and a few dollars.

Speaker 2 (03:21:06):
That women cooperated even more.

Speaker 12 (03:21:08):
They weren't like, well, oh, you know, for you to
be to cooperate with you, you gotta be having.

Speaker 7 (03:21:14):
All this money.

Speaker 8 (03:21:15):
And so we some of us are.

Speaker 4 (03:21:18):
Not me.

Speaker 51 (03:21:18):
I don't because I don't give a damn, but somebody,
some of some of us believe that our manhood and
our ability to be the head of our house is
based on whether we're paying all the goddamn money. And
that's what leads to some of the delusions of some
of these women out here today. Now, there were other
women out here who understand that a man, she wants

(03:21:39):
to be with him, regardless of how much money he makes,
because she loves the man. But if but if men,
and and and and I put it in the chat
of the kind of dude that's gonna fall for this
nonsense of the of the alpha woman who wants.

Speaker 12 (03:21:54):
To I want to be your partner and I want
to be your equal.

Speaker 51 (03:21:58):
Well, there's some guys there to go for that bullshit.

Speaker 28 (03:22:02):
But then there are some guys.

Speaker 35 (03:22:03):
Who won't.

Speaker 18 (03:22:06):
So militant.

Speaker 7 (03:22:07):
So here's the the problem with that.

Speaker 65 (03:22:11):
Y'all always like the reference back in the day, back
when grandma couldn't even get a bank account with our grandpa,
back when she couldn't get a bank account, or get
an apartment or get anyone to fucking stay without a man.

Speaker 36 (03:22:22):
So of course she wasn't demanding that she didn't have
the freedom to do it. So y'all always want to
talk about these time periods where.

Speaker 7 (03:22:30):
Women couldn't do shit. Of course she was gonna.

Speaker 8 (03:22:33):
Fall in line.

Speaker 38 (03:22:34):
She ain't have no choice because it was either that
or have a fucked up life considerably.

Speaker 15 (03:22:40):
So why do y'all keep referencing this time when y'all
know this ain't that?

Speaker 4 (03:22:44):
In five Yeah, well, I want to answer that.

Speaker 11 (03:22:49):
I will answer.

Speaker 22 (03:22:49):
I will answer that. She answered that I was responded
to me.

Speaker 16 (03:22:52):
I'll answer that directly.

Speaker 8 (03:22:55):
But but you also you also.

Speaker 51 (03:22:57):
Put didn't didn't, didn't, didn't mentioned that when men had
less or very little. So now today all lot have
been out here who also get the same kind of
treatment for men. That's why the two hundred and seventeen
dollars or one hundred and fifteen dollars. Child support payments
are real because women are still cooperating sexually to these

(03:23:19):
men who don't have anything. And then after that and
they have the babies, then they realize, oh want us
men who can pay all the bills. Yet they got
two or three kids by the dudes that they talk
about they don't want at that time, who ain't got crap.

Speaker 35 (03:23:34):
But they cooperating with.

Speaker 51 (03:23:36):
Them too, giving they have a jonae in their bodies,
and even letting them stay with them.

Speaker 12 (03:23:41):
So this is a bunch of board bs as well.

Speaker 8 (03:23:43):
And I'm done.

Speaker 13 (03:23:44):
And in twenty twenty five, the women that's getting married,
they cooperate.

Speaker 56 (03:23:48):
Say that again, Lewis, I didn't hear you.

Speaker 13 (03:23:51):
In twenty twenty five, the women that are cooperating are
getting married.

Speaker 4 (03:23:56):
Okay, I agree with that.

Speaker 56 (03:23:57):
So I want to respond to Rock because I want
to respond to Rob because he said something to.

Speaker 26 (03:24:04):
What us.

Speaker 54 (03:24:09):
And never had children and only thirty plack man and
marry and women.

Speaker 7 (03:24:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 56 (03:24:17):
I guess that was a push back to Lewis so
real quick, So Rob point received And I was actually
gonna say something that Danielle said right that you know
all too often men and women do this we think
about relationships from our own perspective, not enough of us
think about it from the perspective of the other person.

Speaker 10 (03:24:38):
And you just have to do both right.

Speaker 56 (03:24:40):
And what I find in trying to understand women, even
though a lot of what they think is nonsense, right,
they simply don't value the things that we value.

Speaker 8 (03:24:50):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:24:51):
So I can view myself as a man for whatever
my reasons, but her picture of masculinity might look different.
And even if I think it's bullshit, if I'm gonna
be with her, right, we have to set up a
situation that integrates her perspective.

Speaker 4 (03:25:08):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:25:08):
So if her perspective of a real man is a
provider and my perspective of a real man is not that,
maybe it's a guy like no pun intendent who works
out a lot, who takes care of his body, right,
because you know that can be harder than making money.

Speaker 8 (03:25:22):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:25:23):
A lot of people make money, not a lot of
people are in shape a man he left? Okay, Well, anyway, Danielle,
you aren't completely wrong. What I'll say to what you
said is, yes, it's true that women in olden times
didn't have the rights that they have today, But they're
not just going out and working and being equal to men. Right,

(03:25:44):
They're going out working being equal to men and still demanding.

Speaker 8 (03:25:49):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:25:49):
So I want that modernity to catch up. I want
women to not demand things from men. I want women
to Obviously they're grown, so I can't tell them what
to do. I'm not there, dad, But I would like
to see women not ask men for anything until men
say they want something with them, and then women cite
their requirements, because that's a real negotiation. But to just

(03:26:12):
come out in public saying what men should be doing,
it doesn't even factor in the dynamics of that relationship
or where those people are in life.

Speaker 13 (03:26:22):
And it doesn't matter how how many are cooperating it.
They still are cooperating. So if it's thirty percent, if
it's twenty percent, it's not zero. So to say that,
you know, to say that women you know, back in
the day, No, it still happens today. People are still
getting married, people still going hand in hand, going down

(03:26:42):
the road together.

Speaker 15 (03:26:45):
People are still getting married.

Speaker 62 (03:26:47):
However, common the dynamics that every relationship is not this
lord over the woman relationship that y'all keep describing.

Speaker 35 (03:26:53):
She ain't gonna be in charge no matter if I.

Speaker 12 (03:26:55):
Pay all the bills or not.

Speaker 8 (03:26:57):
That's who still talking about.

Speaker 2 (03:26:59):
Did you hear that?

Speaker 7 (03:27:00):
Robert the dude militant just said that, what do you mean?

Speaker 5 (03:27:05):
Listen?

Speaker 12 (03:27:06):
Like, look, the reality is the reality.

Speaker 31 (03:27:10):
That was one man that said that, I said, said
one man, one man, one man. That's fine again, so
you just have to leave it at one man.

Speaker 65 (03:27:21):
And that's and I'm speaking in general because I'm sure
he's not the only man that thinks like that.

Speaker 16 (03:27:25):
So what do you mean?

Speaker 8 (03:27:26):
And how do you know he's not?

Speaker 31 (03:27:28):
But because nobody else here said it, sir, Look, I'm
speaking of general.

Speaker 12 (03:27:33):
Nobody else here said that.

Speaker 7 (03:27:34):
I don't know why you keep.

Speaker 12 (03:27:36):
I don't know why you keep.

Speaker 31 (03:27:38):
I don't know why you're trying to extraculate a statement
out to everybody to be good idea, good good idea.
One man, one man said that.

Speaker 59 (03:27:49):
One okay, hold on, time out. Can I make a
request if someone is speaking, even if you disagree with
their point, wait till they're done, and then rebut what
they're saying. But this, hold on, Maria, Hold on, Maria,
I'm not even done speaking.

Speaker 15 (03:28:07):
Okay, but I'm not.

Speaker 18 (03:28:12):
Just like that because it's it's weird behavior.

Speaker 59 (03:28:15):
At this point, I'm asking people to allow for one
person to speak at a time. If you, as a
grown adult, do not have the ability to stay another
person is speaking, then you can leave the room.

Speaker 12 (03:28:30):
If you have to be a bully.

Speaker 15 (03:28:31):
Is quite simple.

Speaker 59 (03:28:33):
I'm not done speaking yet, and you're still trying to
speak over me like I understand that I'm not loud
and abrasive. You yield for the men, and I'm just
trying to.

Speaker 18 (03:28:48):
I don't under the problem, see and don't don't bring
it back up. No, we're not doing it.

Speaker 59 (03:28:55):
If you can't yield to other speakers like an adult,
you can't speak.

Speaker 56 (03:29:00):
Carry on to Danielle's point, I have heard that off
of Clubhouse.

Speaker 12 (03:29:05):
So it's not just Rob who shares that view or
who has that view, I should.

Speaker 13 (03:29:10):
Say, and Carl to the point, you have women that
get on that plan, and but women agree to that,
so it's not like it's an obsession or something, because
that's the you know, that has been the the this
partnership thing that usually didn't relate to heterosexual relationships.

Speaker 22 (03:29:29):
That's something new.

Speaker 16 (03:29:32):
And you know it.

Speaker 56 (03:29:35):
I'm crying, But you know what too, lewis to that point,
I think we discount how much women lie right, women
say they sign up for a lot of things that
they don't really sign up for.

Speaker 8 (03:29:45):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:29:45):
It's just kind of a means to an end type deal. Right,
Because if you listen to the rhetoric long enough, you
hear them complain about everything.

Speaker 26 (03:29:53):
Right.

Speaker 12 (03:29:54):
You hear them complain about having the work and then
come home.

Speaker 56 (03:29:56):
Then you hear them complain about having to be bored
by being home all day and that's why they want
to work.

Speaker 4 (03:30:03):
Right.

Speaker 16 (03:30:03):
You hear about wanting a full provider.

Speaker 56 (03:30:05):
Then you hear about the man not showing up as
a husband and father after work, which means they want
him to do something that they just said is far
too much work for them. Right, Like, if you listen
them to then, if you listen to them enough, you
know they're lying in bullshiting.

Speaker 4 (03:30:19):
Right.

Speaker 56 (03:30:20):
But this is why we have to listen to them,
so that we can put the bullshit in its right place,
in its right perspective, right, so we could actually get
some progress in these conversations instead of just talking at
each other.

Speaker 22 (03:30:33):
And I just learned a new term today at Lavender marriage.

Speaker 4 (03:30:38):
Yeo, that shit was hilarious.

Speaker 56 (03:30:40):
I heard that to him probably like six weeks ago,
like on Instagram, But a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (03:30:45):
Are like that.

Speaker 28 (03:30:46):
Bro.

Speaker 13 (03:30:47):
Any man that sets his sales to the emotion of
a woman, it's gonna be.

Speaker 16 (03:30:54):
Crazy just like her.

Speaker 36 (03:31:00):
Hello, can I say something?

Speaker 4 (03:31:03):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (03:31:04):
Hi, Okay, I believe that I'm an awful woman only
because I have to be, you know, like I'm up
there in age.

Speaker 2 (03:31:12):
And I who's moderating people without checking in with that y'all?

Speaker 22 (03:31:17):
Just moderating whoever.

Speaker 2 (03:31:18):
You Who's what's going on.

Speaker 26 (03:31:22):
For me?

Speaker 12 (03:31:23):
I have no idea it matter, It.

Speaker 1 (03:31:27):
Don't even matter who it is. Listen, I don't know
what's going on with y'all. I don't know what's popping
off with y'all. But stop moderating people on my stage.
If I if I got it rocking for y'all, Vaughn yay,
don't moderate random people on my stage, especially if you're
a moderator. Y'all see me rocking, y'all, See, I got

(03:31:47):
the conversation. We're going stop moderating random people that ain't
on the in the room when we when we usually
got a room together. You see PhD, you see Leila,
you see Nacho, you see Delvin.

Speaker 16 (03:31:59):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:32:00):
And no disrespect to Frannie I ain't never had you
mardered on my stage, you understand. So I don't know
what's going on, but stop.

Speaker 4 (03:32:08):
I know we're cool.

Speaker 2 (03:32:08):
When we come in here, we have conversations, but.

Speaker 1 (03:32:10):
Don't moderate people that I didn't moderate, or that Albert
didn't moderate, or random people moderating. I don't care who
you are, okay, because half y'all don't be supporting the business.

Speaker 2 (03:32:19):
Shit when it's time when we do business.

Speaker 1 (03:32:21):
Half y'all don't come in the room when it's time
to stand on business, which I want to come in
here talk run y'all off about relationships and get modern
and shit, No, it's not what we're doing.

Speaker 35 (03:32:34):
When I come back to Hello, Hello.

Speaker 59 (03:32:37):
A miss y'all left and I feel abandoned.

Speaker 1 (03:32:43):
Fucking moderating people I ain't fucking never even seen before
in my life?

Speaker 2 (03:32:47):
What the fuck are y'all doing?

Speaker 26 (03:32:48):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (03:32:48):
Y'all see who I'm Nacho, yay PhD vonn Rosie, niggas
that's tapping with me and real that fuck with stack
that support me?

Speaker 2 (03:32:58):
The fuck ain't moderating, No randoms that ain't tapping with
my business. So so yo, what's good?

Speaker 4 (03:33:03):
Bro? You good?

Speaker 1 (03:33:05):
Congratulations? Bro, You're doing good out here. No, bro, ain't
no stop all a lot? Yay, what's up?

Speaker 2 (03:33:11):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (03:33:14):
It's that time to migrate, bro, go to You're.

Speaker 2 (03:33:18):
Gonna go to Albert's room. Y'all go on Albert stage.

Speaker 18 (03:33:21):
And modern post the link up top.

Speaker 11 (03:33:26):
Stack.

Speaker 2 (03:33:27):
Do you want me to Yes, yes, doctor von that
is fine with with me. You are you're rare with me?

Speaker 5 (03:33:34):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (03:33:39):
Sorry everybody?

Speaker 59 (03:33:41):
Uh so, we are migrating the room to doctor Albert's room.

Speaker 18 (03:33:46):
The topic is our.

Speaker 59 (03:33:48):
Men, the true Divas, Pygmies and gold Diggers. You can
click the link at the top to take yourselves to
that space. Thank you for joining us in gender Wars,
and make sure you check in next time for another
exciting conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:34:05):
Appreciate you, Doctor Vaughan. Appreciate you Rosie, everybody that joined.
Appreciate y'all joining the war. We'll be back in tomorrow.
I'll do another morning show or we might do a
night show.

Speaker 26 (03:34:14):
But yeah, you know what it is.

Speaker 16 (03:34:15):
We locked in.

Speaker 1 (03:34:16):
We locked in, Rosie. Let's go, Carl, Appreciate you for support.
Go to Albert's room. I'll be back in with another
wall floor legout. Make sure y'all migrate over. Everybody in
here that's in here. Please migrate over the Albert's room.
I'll be right over there with you guys. Everybody, this
room is closing in about ten seconds. Closed it about

(03:34:38):
ten second, yeah, ten seconds. We're going to Alberts. We're
going to uncle Grandpa's Albert house. Fucking Grandpa. We're going
to grand Bay. We're going to grand house.

Speaker 26 (03:34:56):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (03:34:58):
Carl's going to Gramp's house. Go, let's rush. We go
into Grahm's house. I'm about to shut this down way
out

Speaker 32 (03:35:06):
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