Gender Warz World Wide Episode 16-"Can Men Forgive a Womans Past?"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you know that's on in my millet's having and
not the big cheep t doesn't embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He ain't me.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
You can keep it comparsson my fish. She probably want
to the bastill.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
Turn into a sash.

Speaker 5 (00:10):
You best.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You gotta follow them the traffic, but you can't.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
We're gonna go up today.

Speaker 6 (00:14):
I keep let's go y'are doing them nasty niggas.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Couldn't even see me in last year, just started at
them niggas, and last I ain't even try to in
a pass from giving loose.

Speaker 7 (00:22):
I canttribute the fashion jump or something.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'll be giving them cash.

Speaker 8 (00:25):
Don alone that you're regular rip right now?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Car reason all easy, come through.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It ain't he's drawing.

Speaker 8 (00:30):
You ain't got a worry. You don't care about your boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
See me ain't getting herds out, damn and get his
turn fish this time man it shap, just say I
it well, none of you guys can flashed me well,
matter of fact, none of you guys get hotshed me
well post my trip on they leave.

Speaker 9 (00:49):
Just so they can see, well turn me or some
more on my get here.

Speaker 8 (00:55):
Howbout it dover in the back of the car and
tell her to go.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
She when she laughs, she beg it man.

Speaker 8 (01:00):
Back on the roads.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know how I get when I get in that
mold and't fucking with bees, ain't buying no clothes and
made me some songs, especially nown this shit come and
get so scrips.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because we close, I'm gonna do another walk.

Speaker 10 (01:14):
Every time we do this ship we go up even more,
even more even high. Ash Right, so shout, I saw
all you guys that's been.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Supporting the motherfucking podcast.

Speaker 10 (01:23):
First of all, right, shouts the fly, shots to Kim
Shosta vall shouts the four hundred club, shouts the yay
let me shout out to the home team, and shots
you guys at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's coming up.

Speaker 10 (01:36):
But today we're gonna have a quick conversation who gets
more attached quicker men or women? Right, this is the
conversation we want to have. Come up if you like,
But I want to have this. I want to see
who the fuck gets attached a little quicker, a little
bit faster. Yeah, and I'm gonna just give my submission. Yeah,

(01:57):
I'm gonna give my submission. Straight up, women get attached faster?
Von yay, listen, fly what a fly when we put
it down, y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Don't go nowhere.

Speaker 10 (02:16):
Y'all be just kind of like you know, stuck and
like you know, emotion, you can't move, you.

Speaker 11 (02:22):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (02:23):
But sometimes you can't move, but you don't want to
move right. So, yeah, it's women that get attached Cooker,
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
B Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:30):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Leila?

Speaker 10 (02:31):
Kim Let's have this conversation while we're waiting for some more.

Speaker 11 (02:34):
People to pull up. Talk to me ship sacs.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
I don't know, man, I guess that's just a certain
negative ship that certain dudes get them women that that
certain people can speak to that point.

Speaker 12 (02:44):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
Every man can't speak to that point. Bro, you can't
trying to stay like get you. Yeah, you can't put
them all in the same category. Niggas ain't even got
it like that. I'm saying, no charisma or nothing.

Speaker 10 (03:00):
You're insane, Leila. What do you think who gets attached?
Quicker men or women? I feel like, you know, women,
they get attached. You guys got more feelings? You guys
go off brain emotion. Let's get into this conversation.

Speaker 11 (03:14):
A little bit.

Speaker 13 (03:14):
Definitely, I have to agree with you a on this
phone because it really depends on that, like the character
of the person. I think as a general, probably women.
But I think there's a large sub group of men
who attach very quickly.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
M attached.

Speaker 10 (03:37):
So you think there's a certain type of man that
attaches quick what you're.

Speaker 13 (03:41):
Saying, Yeah, I'm not saying it's healthy, Like, I don't
think it's healthy on either end, right, because I think
it muddies the waters for discernment and vetting. So I
don't think it's good for anyone to do that. But
I think that yeah, by majority, probably women. And then
you know there's this set of men that do that
to you.

Speaker 10 (04:03):
I I agree with Laila, men do get attached as well. Yeah,
you as soon as we get a little piece of.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
That start driving.

Speaker 11 (04:13):
What's that.

Speaker 12 (04:16):
It's a link to an article that links to a
study that says men get attached quicker.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
So you already study proof on this.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
That's why I laugh.

Speaker 10 (04:32):
Welcome to the stage, Michelle, thanks for coming bond and
says that men get attached quicker. We would like to
know if that's true. I feel like women, do you
know you guys go in more with.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
The feelings and the emotion.

Speaker 10 (04:46):
How you feeling Michelle Laylor let's continue this conversation.

Speaker 12 (04:56):
I do think men have a more idealized view of
romance and relationships, and that's what leads y'all to fall quicker.

Speaker 14 (05:04):
That's my personal opinion.

Speaker 12 (05:06):
I think y'all actually have the Disney view where it's all,
you know, rose colored glasses, and.

Speaker 14 (05:15):
I don't think we have that.

Speaker 12 (05:16):
I think women, at least women who dated at least
one man, do not have that view of the world anymore.

Speaker 11 (05:23):
She's a racist.

Speaker 15 (05:25):
What nigga?

Speaker 10 (05:29):
This is insane. What is Vaughn talking about? So who
gets attached quicker?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Men or women? And women?

Speaker 10 (05:38):
Von saying men, she's automatically pushing back. But I think
it's still going to be women on this side. You
guys will go and just going with everything with your
heart and your brain and your mind.

Speaker 11 (05:51):
Right.

Speaker 14 (05:52):
So, oh, men fall quicker, women fall stronger.

Speaker 16 (05:59):
So that's what you're seeing.

Speaker 12 (06:02):
I said, men fall quicker, but women fall stronger or harder,
So our emotions will be a whole lot more amplified
once we do fall.

Speaker 14 (06:13):
But y'all fall quicker.

Speaker 11 (06:16):
I don't know about that, miss study woman.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Oh, I don't know about the study guy taking up.

Speaker 12 (06:24):
I mean, think about it when y'all fell in love
with that girl in middle school and she broke your heart.

Speaker 14 (06:28):
Y'all still ain't let that shit go on, y'all forty five?

Speaker 10 (06:31):
What so you're saying we holding grudges and shit? Now,
I don't know what Vaughan thinks this is. She's saying,
we holding grudges from middle school? Yeah, I don't believe.
So why would I hold a grudge from that long ago?
Who gets attach more? Men or women?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Told you, guys, just what I'm staying on this side.
You know what I mean. You can't take me off
the square. Little you know.

Speaker 10 (06:59):
This is where I'm say, would you chime into this conversation?
Who gets attached quicker?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Men and women? Men and women? What do you think?

Speaker 17 (07:10):
I think men first because it's always physical, and then
women because of the physical.

Speaker 18 (07:20):
We get attached.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
But like.

Speaker 17 (07:23):
The lady was saying, we love stronger and harder because
we put all in. We want to make sure you
guys have everything. We start attending to you guys, when
generally most guys after intercourse or in you know, that
first interaction, they're like, oh well, yeah, maybe this wasn't

(07:43):
what I wanted. So then you get guys detached.

Speaker 11 (07:51):
See, I disagree with that.

Speaker 13 (07:55):
I think a woman will put do all of the
things that she wants to do in a relationship without
being attached right away. So I think some of those
things that it's not from the attachment that those things happen.

Speaker 11 (08:12):
It's like her role.

Speaker 13 (08:13):
Some some woman just fall into the role of the relationship,
like that's who she is in a relationship and she's
just doing that.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 9 (08:28):
Man?

Speaker 5 (08:29):
This is weird.

Speaker 11 (08:31):
This ship is weird, bro.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
I think I think we got to explain the attachment
now because this ship is getting kind of crazy right now.

Speaker 11 (08:42):
Like I mean, like men, we mean, but well, may
we act like we really attached to you? But we
had like four so it'd be like marry gang. So
who who did this period? View on the study and everything?
Come on, y'all tell me, because this is just a
you just snatched off the internet.

Speaker 14 (09:02):
I did it.

Speaker 12 (09:04):
I did it to be funny because I hate I
hate the stats in the conversations. But my thing is,
were you attached to that snake charming nurse?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Now?

Speaker 7 (09:15):
She was attached to me as a matter of fact, Nah,
and then I got attached.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
Do you feel me, Yeah, I feel like you got
attached first.

Speaker 11 (09:24):
Man.

Speaker 10 (09:25):
Something's telling me you lying, And I had a thick
pack dread dragon locks and I'm going to leave the
rest out of it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
You feel from out of town.

Speaker 11 (09:35):
Oh, so what you want to do?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
What you want to do now, I'm lying she had attached?

Speaker 11 (09:41):
No, No, why would.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You say that?

Speaker 11 (09:42):
Why would you say that you was down here? You
was using my cock to put inside of her?

Speaker 19 (09:48):
Is wrong?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
What's what's my button? That he's done?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
What then?

Speaker 11 (09:57):
Is wrong with you? I'm just saying, I don't think
making it. It's kind of weird right now.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Because that you'll act like this is a real thing,
like women known, Like you know, they looked at you,
meet him, they look at you here you speak, run
home and tell he tell your friends about you.

Speaker 11 (10:14):
Then you know, men and I just met this ship, battie,
but you already know probably what's she is? Like, I'm
just telling you the truth. Like if your niggas never
went through this, then going on, the women are not
expression stuff today.

Speaker 14 (10:31):
The women are to tell nobody about y'all.

Speaker 12 (10:33):
Y'all in the group chat with a nickname for like
the first two months, gonna be hot. See we had
one dude in our group chat. I do not remember
this man's name. I just know him as Daytona, that's all.

Speaker 11 (10:44):
We called him, mister mister Daytona and tall at the beach.

Speaker 14 (10:51):
Blumar, your nickname in the group chat was probably we.

Speaker 11 (10:59):
Yo was five head. You don't have dreams? You see movies, yo.

Speaker 10 (11:04):
Y'all same bro now vonn for real, though women get
attached clicker men, they're just crazier.

Speaker 11 (11:15):
Being no one coming on the stage for this no more,
he'd just be killing. What's up? B?

Speaker 12 (11:19):
We need your wisdom up here, brother, y'all always be
calling doctor be the stage right.

Speaker 20 (11:28):
Super nigga, be super safe. She's scared, she's got nigga's nuts.

Speaker 14 (11:37):
That's what you ain't scared. But why y'all be back up.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
Jesus that being run your as you better be careful A. B.
What you think B may get attached more or women?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Man?

Speaker 11 (11:53):
Keep it on the ladies guys all day Brota.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
I don't know you.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
The man definitely get attached with.

Speaker 21 (12:02):
Explain that why do they get attached quicker? Because men
usually have so men usually put in more effort to
get the woman so wanting to return on that investment
makes the yearn for her more because he knows he's
put out. So if he don't get it back, you
know he's out. You know whatever he put up for.
So yeah, that attaches him. That's why you know niggas

(12:23):
get for next. But the good thing about that is
that once you got a woman that like you, then
you can, you know, you play her back because how
you treat somebody at the beginning, how they're gonna treat
you in the end. So all the hoops you make
a man jump through up front, he gonna spin the
block on you on the back end, and he's gonna
run you rag at that relationship. So just remember that
when you're making him jump through hoops up front, you

(12:43):
think you're getting over on him, how he's doing his
plotting and waiting, because when it's over, he gonna drag
you back.

Speaker 11 (12:55):
He's sweating her bro just dragging him through the mud.
Bee yo, Mike, And like, man, fuck you, why are
you mad? Help? Just thinking?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Ass out?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I was doing?

Speaker 11 (13:12):
Pulled up? What's up?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Listen? Who gets attached quicker? Men or women?

Speaker 10 (13:18):
I want you to tell me, please, who gets attached quicker?
I feel like it's women. Be said it coming as men.
I feel like women, you know, going with their hearts,
they feelings, emotions, and y'all just be getting wrapped up.
Men could just you know, discard women be fast seen
this too.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Let's have this conversation.

Speaker 11 (13:37):
According not according to doctor B. Doctor he do make sense.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
When it comes down to the vestment proper, we're about
to the men that don't invest in anything.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Oh no, that's not wrong.

Speaker 21 (13:46):
Men can discard him like I don't get attached to people.
I'm fucked up like that. But everybody, everybody don't have
like trauma and fucked upness like I do.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Y'all.

Speaker 21 (13:55):
A lot of y'all love boys, and I respect that.
I love that for y'all. I'm not a lovabley though.

Speaker 10 (14:00):
Even though, like bro, when I was coming up, though
I was hard on them, though, Bro, you feel me
like I wasn't always like that. It took you gotta
find the right one to make you be like, all right,
I ain't gotta be so stiff, you know me.

Speaker 22 (14:14):
I grew up in the era of the love boys back.
I know you that's the era, Like you know how
bad you know, you know.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
How your niggas want to be rappers and dury rappers
and ship stacks. You and your people you want to
be like R and B singers and.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
My people's why I gotta be my people's nigga.

Speaker 11 (14:32):
Just saying I never heard you play.

Speaker 22 (14:35):
Now you know you never played one R and B
song on your reset dance and you.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
Want to dance and field is the play play chief,
Keith Nigga.

Speaker 11 (14:49):
Yeah see see I was right. But doctor B, you
already know what I mean. That's why romantic thing. Uh
we talked about this earlier.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
Broad romance like that feel me? So my thing is
even now on days like men don't even know how
to romance and I don't think they even have to
work for that ship. To be truthful, doctor B, it's
different about.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Romance like that.

Speaker 21 (15:21):
These women don't want romance, they want finance.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
They broke.

Speaker 11 (15:26):
That's not like chicks like.

Speaker 21 (15:29):
Now chicks sounding like me because he's still on my
talking points.

Speaker 11 (15:32):
Oh my god, I didn't instigate that at all. It's
not Andre. It was kind of crazy over there.

Speaker 22 (15:43):
We were going on over there was you know what
I'm saying, What's what's crazy?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Motherfuckers?

Speaker 11 (15:54):
This is the safe save placed Andrea.

Speaker 10 (15:56):
Come on up, there right, who gets attached quicker men
or women? I told you guys, just women. They go
into it with their minds feeling spody. All of this
ship right men, like I said, they can discard very fast.

Speaker 18 (16:13):
Andrew's on the phone stacked.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
She was getting packed up in the other room.

Speaker 11 (16:17):
Yeo, doctor big she was.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
So there's a voice, well no, so I think it
was richest.

Speaker 21 (16:26):
Room and they were talking about Mide and I didn't
stay in very long because you know, when I hear
certain voices I hate, I just leave. And she was
arguing one of those voices I don't like.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
But that voice was backing up Ango and pretty moll
the fucker.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So I hope Andrea is okay right now. So she's
probably you know, it's like a little sad. She's getting
packed up.

Speaker 22 (16:54):
I told you, look stacked. Turn your audio or bunch
of motherfucker won't be copper.

Speaker 14 (17:00):
It sound like you whispering, dude, you.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
Don't want to listen to me, Like what, man, I
think that nigga probably stressed out today, trash out day.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. We got a quartey for
people in a rico.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Oh, I ain't gonna ask rico because this niggas a
fucking fucker. But you know he's gonna say, you know
I did it.

Speaker 11 (17:28):
I always motherfucking get attached first love women are Yeah,
now what you think?

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I do?

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Want to know what you think about the title? Bro
mm hmmm.

Speaker 18 (17:48):
I think every I think it could be different in
different situations.

Speaker 11 (17:54):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Flight attendants be so thick.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
But the pieces of ship yeo, for real, I'm not lying.

Speaker 21 (17:59):
I like I like pieces of ship because there's nothing
you have, nothing to worry about them.

Speaker 11 (18:06):
They like over the road truck drivers.

Speaker 21 (18:09):
Uh yeah them and nurses Like nurses are pieces of
ship too. I like nurses too, and flight attendants because
they don't really be called you bugging you because they
got a man.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
They cheat nom mhm.

Speaker 11 (18:24):
Are you say, Jazz.

Speaker 23 (18:28):
I was gonna ask get attached to what specifically?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I mean?

Speaker 11 (18:32):
No, be talking about relationship. I'm sorry.

Speaker 21 (18:40):
Yeah, I'm telling you these women don't care about romance
no more. They need finance. It's economy hitting them hard.
You want her to love you, make you feel loved.
You better make her feel like she got some money
in her account.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (18:54):
They don't love for free no more.

Speaker 21 (18:57):
Yeah, love is for sale.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
This is sad bro y'a don't have nothing to say
to us. Just why y'all don't want to rebuild anything? Okay,
y'all don't want to rebuild anything. If somethbody else quiet, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
It's just circumstantial, I guess.

Speaker 21 (19:28):
I mean, yay, this is your seventh room today.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You'll probably tired.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Wow, this is not.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
People are y'all?

Speaker 21 (19:39):
Is the four hundred side paying overtime?

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (19:43):
Over time.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
We're not paid label labor.

Speaker 11 (19:53):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
You know what?

Speaker 11 (19:54):
You're dead.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's fine.

Speaker 12 (19:56):
I'm gonna steal all your wig glue, so you gotta
go outside by he got on hair?

Speaker 11 (20:02):
What is that? Girl? That's ship ti?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 11 (20:16):
I can't answer it.

Speaker 21 (20:17):
So, yeah, well do you like because you know, for
some reason, I had like a craving for bell peppers?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Do you like bell peppers?

Speaker 11 (20:24):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I love bell peppers? Look good?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Everything the raw?

Speaker 11 (20:29):
Whoa, that's wild wiggling.

Speaker 21 (20:32):
Like that's kind of animalistic.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
No, it's not.

Speaker 11 (20:35):
It's vegetables. Bro eat my vegetables.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Raw with some ranch.

Speaker 21 (20:41):
Just grabbing a bell pepper off the counter, like yeah,
let me just go and eat.

Speaker 24 (20:44):
This like an apple is kind of crazy with some
ranch to be.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Eat French.

Speaker 21 (20:49):
I've never ate ranch a day in my life.

Speaker 23 (20:51):
Ranch with bell peppers.

Speaker 12 (20:54):
Just biting into a bell pepper, That's what I'm clean
and then did, but it ranged like a carrot.

Speaker 11 (21:01):
I will bite into a bell pepper. You gotta stop.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Hand all are weird.

Speaker 12 (21:09):
Yeah, you take him and you put them in a
pan and salt tail.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, you just walk around with a bell pepper in
his pocket.

Speaker 11 (21:15):
Is eating like an apple in my lunchbox. In my lunchbox, man,
you cut it out.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
I'm here.

Speaker 11 (21:23):
I don't like y'all stacked here.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I left.

Speaker 11 (21:29):
Said, nigga, I'm here. Where the fuck is hair at bro.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Here?

Speaker 11 (21:36):
It is here? I think it's a probably question. Hey,
stn what you thinking about the title?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Hold on, give me a second.

Speaker 21 (21:49):
Carry in the chat line saying men are poured expressing
loves not for sale. Yeah, like men have been writing poems, songs, signing,
it's bond, it's everything for y'all for centuries. And then
when y'all became shitty women, men was like, yeah, fuck this,

(22:09):
y'all stopped wanting poems and started wanting cash.

Speaker 18 (22:12):
Because I was broke here.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
I hate them, well, I do love them. That men
some men, you know romantic we did fight. It was
a it was a thing for you to compete for
a woman where a win. You know, we could throw
down to each other's spaces and ship like that.

Speaker 11 (22:33):
Women appreciated that.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Now I don't think it's the same thing some women.

Speaker 23 (22:40):
Some women still like that. Who gets attached quicker? Men
or women?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Mm hm, that's kind of a heads up toss.

Speaker 23 (22:49):
I think somebody, one person is always more attached than
the other in any type of situation. I think that's normal.
But who does it quicker? M that's tough.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think it's a fifty fifty toss up.

Speaker 11 (23:07):
I think you.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
What was my micmut when I said, yeah, peppers, yeah right,
nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 10 (23:21):
I know.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
What's that for me? I ain't bringing lamb over hen
what not? The one in refrigerator? I got lamb in refrigerator.
It's not free?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
What is you talking about?

Speaker 7 (23:40):
I'm talking to my goddamn kid about my lamb? How
am tells me what I need to do?

Speaker 11 (23:49):
Stack package back? That shoot off? My bad thought me?
Both right? The fucking y'all talking about everybody's quiet? Everybody's quiet?
I don't know what's all this day.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Now it's about to boom this ship. That's what the I'm.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
About to do from boom it? Why you gonna boom it?
Doctor B's head?

Speaker 24 (24:18):
I don't mind him booming it?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
All right, doctor B is the boom A right? O?

Speaker 11 (24:28):
G Fred? Let's good, O g Fred?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Hey ship ain't ship? What's going on y'all?

Speaker 7 (24:34):
That's everybody talking. I mean everybody's not talking. What do
you think about the title.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Who gets attractive?

Speaker 11 (24:44):
Man? Man?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Am I blind?

Speaker 11 (24:51):
Explain?

Speaker 25 (24:53):
You know how some niggas can get because some niggas
is getting bad chick get with her autobatic?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh yeah, she mind this, this and that? Yeah, I'm saying.

Speaker 26 (25:02):
I'll say, man, especially a lot of these younger dudes
now they want to claim before.

Speaker 27 (25:07):
It's even this, that's all say it seems like you're wrong.

Speaker 11 (25:17):
Yeah, it's because these niggas with job turkeys. I mean,
I'm supposed to be why they.

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Gotta be jove turkeys? If all of them agree, aren't
you the drive turkey?

Speaker 7 (25:29):
Stay out the man's business? Rico say that, Hey Mac,
I gotta hit my boy, Mac?

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Mac?

Speaker 11 (25:41):
You did Mac?

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Are you at work?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 28 (25:45):
Man?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Bros.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
The work.

Speaker 11 (25:47):
Who's all quicker man or woman who get attacked?

Speaker 25 (25:49):
Title that whoever make the least amount of money get
attached quick. All this ship is transactional. Yeah, love, don't
pay the bills, better pay attention.

Speaker 11 (26:03):
Oh my god, suld Be kind of said, what money,
That's what's going on. You know what. Let me get
out in the world for being.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Let's say he got the bigger bag.

Speaker 25 (26:17):
She's gonna let that niggas so, oh my god, you
my soulmate, right is that bag bag? Now let's say
he a homosexual. That niggas gonna be like, oh my god,
who sent you?

Speaker 11 (26:30):
So?

Speaker 25 (26:30):
Whoever make the least amount of money, that's who get
at touched with it?

Speaker 23 (26:36):
I want to I actually want to go and try
that out. I actually want to go and try that out. Man,
I want to test that a chance.

Speaker 25 (26:48):
He said, where do we get these women at ZEUS network?
Loving it bout the shade room, right, etcetera, etceteratwork.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
I want to go.

Speaker 23 (26:59):
I want to go find god that makes like thirty
k and see how quick he gets attached. You do
that and report that will give me about three business case.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I got you.

Speaker 11 (27:15):
Think shit. Probably my younger days well, I know, I
know what still looks like. Now you know the young
boys like like Ogi Fresh there Bobber show like a killer.

Speaker 16 (27:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 23 (27:32):
I still say men because you have I guess I
would say, man, I agree with Ogi fred A man
will just be like your mind just for his ego
type stuff. So he'll get like an unhealthy attachment just
to kind of stroke his ego and it has nothing.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
To do with him really wanting you. It's just your mind.
Because I said your mind.

Speaker 25 (27:53):
On team what you tell me all the time. I'm
a gangster, but i'd be like that gangster, right, woman
of the new thugs niggas are the new sweet.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
Mhow that's she and she and she's right.

Speaker 11 (28:08):
You just want to be deep. They get they get
put deep, real deep.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
And that's what y'all like.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
No man, no.

Speaker 14 (28:16):
Man, I'll want a girl that gonna put you in
a full of Nelson.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
No, ma'am, I just love said.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's what I say.

Speaker 10 (28:27):
Her niggas is acting like real bitches and hurt women
are acting like real niggas right now.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's crazy. How do we reverse these roads?

Speaker 11 (28:39):
Kill everybody off?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Y'all just gotta go back to using the washing, the drive.

Speaker 11 (28:47):
That scrubber thing and hanging it out in the backyard.

Speaker 23 (28:52):
Who is who is putting their hands up? That's correct, doctor,
I just said, yeah, we didn't. We didn't have these issues,
you know, back But I'm not gonna advocate.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
For it because I'm against them.

Speaker 11 (29:09):
You are a whimp.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
God damn, I'm against the testing.

Speaker 11 (29:21):
Damn Billiam Bermont. Come, hot pocket.

Speaker 12 (29:24):
That's not nice.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Kill hot pocket.

Speaker 14 (29:30):
You have that eat that's winey.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Here your's wine?

Speaker 11 (29:34):
This one to wash your mouth.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
So the answer, it.

Speaker 12 (29:45):
Sounds like we have an answer. Everybody agrees except for wig.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I even look around the app so we got somebody
else speaking.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
Friends.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Hold up, it is not the answer. I don't agree
with that. Yo.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
You funk over women good enough? She in love claiming
you tomorrow morning. We all know their contract is nigga
once I get you just pushing you mind now, Oh
it's a contract.

Speaker 14 (30:08):
Of course. You would say that you have a wave
brush to.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Beer, get you fuck up good and eat up good
tomorrow morning. She she's telling everybody you are.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
You know that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Nah, that's the fact.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Go brush your beard, Go brush your beard. It's crazy.

Speaker 11 (30:30):
Damn. Why the insult?

Speaker 7 (30:32):
My son?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Beard gotta stay fresh?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Me up at the check.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
What's going on?

Speaker 14 (30:42):
It's the war floor.

Speaker 16 (30:43):
It's a solid war yea.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
What's going on in the chack?

Speaker 14 (30:54):
Who said Lloyd Banks in the house? Who is Lloyd Bank?

Speaker 23 (30:58):
Zeu's network is niggas sid I don't know who Lord
Banks is?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh say, I don't know?

Speaker 11 (31:08):
M hm drink.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
He called the home team a g unit nigga.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Oh.

Speaker 14 (31:14):
He told him to say, gun.

Speaker 11 (31:22):
Me my mic.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
What sir, No, we want to.

Speaker 14 (31:29):
Hear everything that's going on in the background.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Ms Chassidy, what do you think to this title? Go ahead?
Doctor B was about to say something.

Speaker 21 (31:50):
Oh no, I was just looking at the hallways saying
I didn't I shouldn't have made that list because now
everybody's doing lists again.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Told you that, Oh did you see your name on
the list? Doctor B?

Speaker 21 (32:02):
Oh no, I should win all this because I'm the
greatest of all time.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Your name is on every list.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Mentioned travels with everybody's daddy.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Horrible.

Speaker 21 (32:13):
How did did y'all say that Stunner was on the
most influential list?

Speaker 24 (32:16):
Because I thought I was dreaming when I heard.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I don't know why you haten. I don't know why
you hated stack.

Speaker 24 (32:21):
I don't. I ain't if I was half sleep when
I heard I was like stunning.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Who you was wide and woe and you knew it
was me.

Speaker 24 (32:27):
That's why I'm like, I didn't you agree? Nobody? Everybody
was like, who is stunning?

Speaker 23 (32:33):
And you said, congratulations, stunner, you definitely should be up there.

Speaker 24 (32:36):
I did not say that.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (32:38):
I was.

Speaker 24 (32:40):
Then I heard thought, did I hear Yay's name?

Speaker 11 (32:42):
Like yay? Who? There was like Yay two?

Speaker 24 (32:45):
There was like ya two fifty.

Speaker 21 (32:46):
I was like, I don't know ya two fifty.

Speaker 11 (32:50):
I didn't know.

Speaker 23 (32:52):
We gotta stop Hayden. You was on the most marriageable
list too. I don't know who was that delusion?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
That was wild that was on crack.

Speaker 23 (32:59):
Playing was now he wasn't on the chastity Are you
want to answer the title of.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, I can.

Speaker 11 (33:16):
Do.

Speaker 29 (33:16):
Men know how to be vulnerable without losing respect. I
believe so. I believe so. I think that it's just
a m It's a matter of having just just having
just being emotionally intell intelligent and emotionally available and being

(33:43):
vulnerable to the right person too, because you have to
be vulnerable to someone who is okay with you expressing
your emotions without looking at you as like inferior or
feeling like, oh you're weak or you know, you're less than.
So I just I think it just depends on.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
The woman.

Speaker 29 (34:08):
You know, you have to find a woman who's so
who's a safe place to land, you know, someone that
you can be vulnerable with, someone that you feel safe
with that's not gonna judge you or criticize you for
being vulnerable. So, I mean, I think me and can
because I've I've encountered men who was open to being vulnerable,

(34:33):
and you know, I think that I respected that more
than anything.

Speaker 16 (34:39):
So yeah, yeah, it's a big deal to me with mine.

Speaker 23 (34:49):
I'm just gonna make sure if you want to reset
the title, we don't even know it changed.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
Change it anywhere about to change it.

Speaker 12 (34:58):
He just changed it Reid to Ginger Wars Worldwide. Uh,
don't pick on the way I say gender Iron Country.
The topic is do men know how to be vulnerable
without losing respect? Anyone is welcome to come to the stage,
turning your pe tikets to share the room.

Speaker 30 (35:20):
H Yeah, anybody wants to people on the title. No,
I'm not here for that.

Speaker 12 (35:33):
I'm not gonna speak to the title, but chastity your voice.
Have you ever heard the like the ending of one
of the Lauryn Hill songs from The mis Education of
Laurenn Hill, when they was asking.

Speaker 14 (35:45):
Little kids about love.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
You sound like that girl that was talking like you
sound like a grown up version I heard you have
a very smooth voice.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
It's like smooth and chill.

Speaker 12 (35:53):
No, no ship, It's like a compliment. It's just like
you need to do like audio books and stuff. This
is where I'm going, like, you should be a voice actor,
look into audiobooks and stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
You know, she was high shat.

Speaker 16 (36:14):
I think, yeah, I was just gonna wait because y'all
was talking. I think men weren't taught how to really
be vulnerable. So I think men are capable of being vulnerable,
but it's social conditioning. Y'all would talk to like shut up, work,
put your head down, don't cry, be strong, man up,

(36:34):
and it's looked at it as a weakness to a lot
of men. I would say, men feel like they lose
respect if they tell a woman what they're really going through.
And to be honest with you, a lot of women
you know, if it gets into a deep argument or
something gets really serious, it's going to throw it back
up in a man's face. And y'all know that hurts
me in more than anything. Goes back to that pride

(36:56):
and ego, right all, y'all issues are rooted in y'all
pride of need. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
So I don't really I think even with the safest woman,
it would be hard for a man to be safe
with her. It would take a lot of time and
a lot of trust. But y'all, just y'all, men weren't
taught to be that way. And what I see on

(37:17):
club I was y'all can't be vulnerable, you know. So
I don't know, it would take some time. Y'all just
weren't talked that way. You're supposed to man up. Yeah,
you gotta shut up and work. You know what I'm saying.
You're not supposed to say how you feel or stand
up for something. You're supposed to just dry your truck
and put your head down, wrap your locks up.

Speaker 12 (37:40):
That's that put his wig on the ninth thing, right,
she loves talking about wigs.

Speaker 22 (37:46):
I'm gonna get on your bulldog head ass in the
second better stop, leave me alone ahead, No, I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
I landed.

Speaker 16 (37:54):
I was just saying, that's that's what you're supposed to
do as a man. Shut up, go to work, man up,
pay the bills. So it could be hard for y'all
to be vulnerable. That's all I'm saying. I was just
using you to be funny.

Speaker 11 (38:12):
It's all good, you know.

Speaker 31 (38:13):
I ain't sensitive that that is the truth, and I
don't think men could be respected that they are. Especially
tell that lady, what you're crying for? You always wanted
to just go to work, do what a man gotta do.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
That'sh you being you being You're being sassy.

Speaker 11 (38:34):
You're being sassy. That's the worst thing you ever tell
her man he's sassy. His girl telling the man, telling
her man he's sassy.

Speaker 16 (38:48):
Yeah, sacks, just make these gender war titles and shut
up stat be a man, and make the title.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Serious.

Speaker 32 (38:57):
I don't even know why y'all always quit a man's
vulnerability to sound like a bitch, Like why he gotta
be a whiny, whiny man to be vulnerable? Like what
what part of the game is that?

Speaker 11 (39:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 32 (39:14):
Like I don't get it, Like why why is it.
Why is it that y'all don't see at least for me,
I think one of the most courageous things a man
could ever be it is vulnerable with his woman, because that's,
you know, at least for me, I honor.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
That.

Speaker 32 (39:37):
And and y'all don't even realize that if you're vulnerable
with the right woman, you're activating her protective like that
we're created from your rib to protect your heart. So yeah,
like y'all want to be tough guys so bad and
be you know, extra with this, making it seem as

(40:00):
though just because a man is vulnerable, he gotta sound
like a whiney ass bitch all the time. Like sometimes
a man being vulnerable might be him that he might
have a day or two. That don't mean he about
to be crying every day of the week, Like it
just means that he's allowing himself to be fully seen
by his woman. And I don't understand why y'all immediately

(40:21):
correlate a man's vulnerability with like I don't I don't know.
I just don't get it, But y'all must know why.
I may maybe I feel like whiny girls on the inside.
And that's why y'all think that you know, that's what
a man's vulnerability should sound like.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
But hey, but yeah, I agree with Tea.

Speaker 23 (40:44):
I feel like the more vulnerable a man is, and
vulnerability is just it's just giving me information about you.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
It doesn't mean you have to come crying.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Oh my god, this happened to me today.

Speaker 23 (40:54):
That's not what being vulnerable is. It's just communication. You're
just telling me stuff. Feel like I will respect the
man more. You feel a deeper bun. You have a
better understanding how he moved, how he acts like. You're
able to see things on a deeper level, not just
on the surface. If I don't know, that's what we're like,
why the fuck he acting like this?

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Why you da da? But when you give her that.

Speaker 16 (41:15):
Information, then she kind of knows she can take your personality,
with your with your words and things that has happened
to you and move accordingly.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
It just makes give you a deeper Yeah.

Speaker 32 (41:24):
I don't know about you, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
just one mids thing Like for me as a woman,
I personally don't feel safe being emotionally like vulnerable with
a man that doesn't show me that he trusts me
in that way. I'm very guarded to a woman like, yes,
I'm a very feminine, very like soft woman, but I

(41:46):
could be real stoic too, and I can make I
can make a man think that he knows me, make
him feel like I'm being personable. I'm very nurturing, I'm
very kind. But some of us we were guarded enough.
I'm an onion, Like, we're guarded enough to where like
until we see that it's safe to do that, we're

(42:09):
not allowing ourselves to be seen either. So then what
then we have this surface level ego like no no
real connection, fair based freaking relationship because we were gonna
be with each other and be lonely in a relationship,
because that's what it is. You're in a relationship, or

(42:31):
you're not allowing yourself to be seen and now you're
risking your life for someone that you're not even giving
the opportunity to love you fully. That's some bullshit, but
check got it.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
Yeah, My thing is like the reason why I get
compared to a woman all the time because we alredn't seen.
Every time a man displays any type of emotion, it's
not really embraced. It's like, are you acting feminine? Are
you acting sash right. Now, I didn't see a woman
tell before, like I'm a.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Woman, I can act like this. You're a man, you're
not supposed to be emotional like me.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
I done heard shit like that, and it be it'd
be crazy because it's like I can't have it both ways.
I'll say this all the time, like it can't be
in one breath.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
We want men to express themselves and be vulnerable. And
then when a nigga display he a bitch ass nigga. Now,
oh your mother, his mother didn't love him.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Oh he's traumatized.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
Oh he's hurt, like a woman could display any type
of hurt or vulnerability, and most times it get embraced
like it's okay, girl, you're gonna.

Speaker 24 (43:35):
Be all right.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, we got you a man.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
A nigga doing that, like, nigga, fuck you want it for?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Are you acting sashy? Are you acting like? That's not
how a man like?

Speaker 8 (43:45):
I don't see all that. So that's why when a
man do it, it get compared to a woman because
it's like what a woman is expected, Like niggas displaying
vulnerability of being emotional. Another woman will look at that
like and try to use it against him, like, are
you acting like you acting like a female?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
I'm the woman. You the man I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
I'm supposed to act thiswe You ain't supposed to act
like me.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Hey, guys, good evening.

Speaker 19 (44:11):
By the way, Haystack shout out to everyone, Mac, I
love you.

Speaker 17 (44:15):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Gates?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
He my darling, Kyla, they can love you as well.

Speaker 19 (44:21):
You know what's interesting, I'm not sure where we are
in the conversation, so I'm just going to go off
the last two speakers that I heard. But what's very
interesting when I hear these conversations is that I'm always
confused why men don't create these spaces for themselves, Like
when women cry and their homegirls are like, yes, oh
my god.

Speaker 16 (44:41):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
What's wrong?

Speaker 11 (44:44):
Sis?

Speaker 16 (44:44):
What can we do?

Speaker 19 (44:45):
That is a woman creating a space for another woman.
So I'm just trying to understand, like if men, when
I hear women like downgrade men for being vulnerable or
for having emotions and just outright being human, I do
have to acknowledge that they get that from men. Men
don't take their like, men don't take their own emotions seriously.

(45:07):
Men don't take other men's emotions. Seriously, if you go
to your homeboys crying because something bothers you, your homeboy
is the one that's going to call you a bit
jazz nigga. He's going to call you the solf pussy
as nigga. He's gonna tell you the man up, He's
gonna tell you get to get over it. But for
some reason, when we have this conversation, it's as if
the onus is on women to create these safe spaces

(45:28):
for men, when men can literally create these safe spaces
for themselves. If we want to change how people or
women view men in terms of being emotional, then men
should also change the way that they view other men
for being emotional. But if every time men are kind
of just like, nah, you know, I'm a man, you
know I don't try and I don't feel nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I'm a grown man, you know, I'm rude.

Speaker 19 (45:51):
To God will have feelings like, then I'm not sure what,
like why you guys would expect women to not also
adopt that, like, to not have that ideology if that's
what men themselves are portraying. So I think when men
downplay their own emotions, that is probably why it has
become the norm for women, because now anything she does

(46:12):
outside of just agreeing with you, y'all will probably label
it nagging or she's bothering you, She's trying to force
you to be vulnerable. I think men should take a
bigger stance amongst their own emotions creates. If male mental
health is important for men, men need to create spaces

(46:35):
for men to deal with their mental health. Men need
to be more inviting to their homeboys. Let him come
cry on your shoulder, let him get it out, and
now you can give him the advice and help him
through that emotional thing. I'm not sure why you guys
are looking for women to do that, but.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I land so.

Speaker 8 (46:56):
What so if what you're saying is true, how you
saying men do with the other men?

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Why every every time a man.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
Who's not a man who displays vulnerability or doesn't like
the expression self, it's.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Always a woman that was the common de nominated a woman.

Speaker 8 (47:11):
He was in a relationship with or was probably talking
to that through it in his face.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
I never heard. I haven't heard no men.

Speaker 11 (47:18):
I'm not.

Speaker 8 (47:18):
I don't hear a bunch of men out here seeing Oh,
I can't be vulnerable because of another man?

Speaker 19 (47:25):
Of course y'all are not gonna say that. But you
guys don't want to be vulnerable with women either. You
guys don't trust women. You y'all don't trust women enough
to be vulnerable with women. So if there is more
camaraderie amongst men, if there is more understanding from another
man who has the same fight.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
As you, I'm not a man.

Speaker 19 (47:47):
I don't know what it means to navigate through society
as a black man in America. But you do, Yay does,
Mister Immaculate does, and other men do. So men need
to create that space for men and they would be
more unders I don't know why women ask y'all for vulnerability.
I'm not gonna lie, Prince, I really don't know. I
honestly think it's predatory for women to ask men to

(48:09):
be vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I make that.

Speaker 19 (48:10):
Statement a lot. For someone to outright ask you to
be vulnerable is a predatory statement. So no, I'm not
one of those women that believe, you know, no, men
must share their feelings. He doesn't love me unless he
tells me. I'm not one of those people. So I
don't know how to answer that. In terms of why
women are nagging y'all for your vulnerability, because I don't

(48:33):
believe those women can really help you guys with your
vulnerabilities anyway, right like the fears you have or whatever
issues you may have as a man navigating through society.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Women are not going to really be able to help
you with that.

Speaker 19 (48:46):
She might be able to comfort you for the time being,
she might be able to take your mind off of
it for a little bit, but she does not have
I don't believe at least she's going to have practical
solutions that you're going to be able to implement as
a man because her plans it's very different as a woman.
So men need to create those spaces for men. If
men care that much about men's mental health, they should

(49:09):
do something about it.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
I agree with the last part you said about they
need to stop asking because she can't.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
She could be a good.

Speaker 8 (49:18):
Listener, but I don't feel like she could be the
solution to my problem. Only I could fix that. She
could just be a listener.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
But I do feel it needs to stop, like it
gotta stop because and it be.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
That's why I be confused, because it'd be a lot
of Oh, we love when a king expresses himself be vulnerable.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
That's that's a turn on.

Speaker 11 (49:37):
And then when the nigga do it.

Speaker 8 (49:39):
It's like being too sad, being too what you just said,
that's what you wanted though, like you can't have it
both ways be and because it's like, what's the point.
What's the point of asking for some ship to be
shared with you that you could potentially use as a
weapon against me? Some you've been asking for, this is
what you wanted in your men to be vulnerable with you.
And then what happens if you like getting a fight

(50:00):
or somewhere you get mad, You're gonna take the ship
he shared with your throw it in, Like it'd be
a bunch of that going on. So it's like, I
need to this this whole narrative of men being asked
to be vulnerable and express themselves for a woman, that
it do need to stop because it really it don't
it don't really be a positive outcome with that.

Speaker 13 (50:21):
I said that the other day we were talking about
this particular subject, and I was saying that that a
woman's part of a woman's purpose is to guard the
heart of her husband, and that you have to be
that space, safe space, regardless of whether he utilizes that
or not, because you can't demand vulnerability from someone. You

(50:43):
have to be a space in which he's comfortable being
whatever level of vulnerability he's comfortable with right whether it's
just venting a little or whoever that man is, and
you can't say I'm the space. Now you have to
do it. It's kind of like you have to be
this space and allow him to utilize that space in

(51:03):
a way he's comfortable. But demanding vulnerability is not a
safe space.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Yo.

Speaker 25 (51:20):
I don't think there's no reason that men should know
that the woman that they're dealing with her ex at
a bad relationship with his dad.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
You heard.

Speaker 25 (51:32):
So what I'm saying is dudes that be vulnerable and
that should have get put on a billboard. Why does
every woman that we speak to have a crazy story
about her ex and we talk about intimate shit. You
don't even got to ask. You don't even got to
ask about this ship. She would tell you all of

(51:53):
her ex business and guess what that nigga was once
upon a time vulnerable.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
I think that.

Speaker 23 (52:16):
When Stunner said that you have to know who you're
dealing with, did you vote first? I didn't even see
who that was. No, go ahead, Oh okay, I agree
with Stunner was saying, you kind of want to know
what you're dealing with.

Speaker 16 (52:33):
So I feel like being you know.

Speaker 23 (52:36):
Expressive sometimes or transparent in certain moments helps, but vulnerable
is kind of you know, you're opening yourself up to
damage your attack in a sense. I think so, I
wouldn't like nobody really likes the word vulnerable one meet
me or a man, but expressive definitely.

Speaker 11 (52:59):
I want to know something.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
Why do y'all think that men don't build happy, safe places.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
For young men or men. It's times that I went to.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
My homie I was going through some shit and I cried,
don't mean, ain't necessarily hug them. He just grabbed my
shoulder like, yo, bro's gonna be all right, and let
me get my ship off, let me get my shit out.
It's time that he felt he was going through some
shit with his mom, his situation, same thing are differently.
Then we go out and we go chill. Well, I
don't know why you guys don't think that we don't

(53:29):
build these spaces for me. At the end of the day,
we do. We homies, we count, we comrades, we talk
to each other. We just don't need to show y'all
that we do. We do this because in all reality,
our women are the ones that A're supposed to have
these conversations with us too, without sitting there throwing in
our face. But we can't do that, And so we
go to our our moms to go through our to

(53:49):
our aunties, our uncles. But soon as we go through
to our moms, y'all call some mama boy, it's wear.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Child.

Speaker 14 (54:01):
Please okay, mature mom please?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Oh my bad god.

Speaker 7 (54:14):
No no no, no, no, no no no, you go, yay,
spare me.

Speaker 19 (54:21):
Okay, I love you, but I need you to spare me.
If y'all really had these faces to men, y'all would
not be on Clubhouse crying every other week in regards
to the male loneliness, because y'all would not be on
Clubhouse trying every other week about how males mental health
and men are killing themselves.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
And men are the ones committing or suicide. No, I'm
just being honest.

Speaker 19 (54:45):
So like you guys, don't you may have figured that
out right, you got that you. I don't know what
your problem is, but I hope you gather yourself and
do it quickly.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
So for me It's like if.

Speaker 19 (54:57):
Men were doing that large ya, those would not be
the talking points that you guys have. Men have already
established they do not trust women, and I think that's okay.
No one can force you to trust women. No one
can force you to trust a person you're with if
you have had negative experience. I know men and women

(55:17):
are like who have had negative experiences, sharing their vulnerabilities
and later having it thrown in their face. Right, Like,
I need us to stop pretending like a gender specific
My point though, is that women will create different little
avenues in spaces to deal with that shit. Like they
will pour into their friends, they will go join a

(55:39):
knitting club. They will I don't know, they will go
now all of a sudden they do spoken word no.
But I'm just saying, like, women are finding various different ways,
and I don't understand why men don't take their mental
health seriously.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
So the only thing.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Go ahead, okay, I want to have a conversation with you.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
So you live in a city, right, Yes, When you
go to the park, what do you see?

Speaker 19 (56:09):
I see mothers, I see children, people playing, I see
men exercising. Yeah, I see men exercising. I see men
playing basketball.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
Yes, that is our outlet. We talked amongst each other
during those times. I mean, like men, y'all on the
stage with me, y'all, can you can confirm.

Speaker 16 (56:26):
Or not.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
Go to the studio we rapping there about, you know,
and put our ships in the lyrics like we do
have it. I don't know why you're blind to it,
but I'm.

Speaker 19 (56:39):
Not saying you don't have it. I'm saying you guys
don't have it in Mass. In Mass, you don't get
to say men are killing themselves more than women. The
male suicide rate is so high, and then turned around
and say, oh, no, no, no, we're fine.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
We played both with each other. We're all talking, we're
all sharing our vulnerabilities. Will have an outlet. It has
it's one or the other.

Speaker 19 (57:03):
Right, So either there is an issue with male suicide
and men's mental health or most of the men are fine.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
So you tell me when you say that's when suicide.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
No no, no, no, no no no no brands sold on
one second, say it again.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Gain I said that.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
I think it's just drunkies and drug The drug addict
says out here, just killed themselves men, I used to type.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So just it's just the drunkies and the and the
drug addicts.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
All right, My thing is like, I get what you're saying,
But y'all, I think a lot like I think as woman.
Y'all look at it, Like the way that y'all cope
with your emotions and how y'all go about them, I
think y'all feel like men. We should do the same
like them examples you gave, Like if a woman going
through it or she just having a she having a

(57:52):
hard time, or she going through it at home with
her men or whatever, y'all might do like that, y'all
might do a group chat together and come to ground
in the circle or pajama party and y'all consoling each
other and codd it's the right girl, everythink, y'all, y'all
do shit like that. A nigga that's going through it
at home, at work or whatever he going through life,
he ain't about to like all right, let me make

(58:14):
a group chat, or let me call all four or
five niggas to come around in the circle and let
me come. Let me come complaining them about what I'm
going through and we just like men, we don't move like.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Right, we go about it.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Wait, stay right there, hold on, no, no, stay right.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
There, don't right there, hold on, we're not a group
chat like we don't right, I agree.

Speaker 19 (58:40):
With you, and then you're one hundred percent right. But
you see what you're saying now. When I first came
in the room, the first thing out of your mouth was,
see when women are crying and they have issues.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
This other women there to be like, no, it's okay,
We're okay.

Speaker 19 (58:54):
You literally complained about the fact that women comfort other women,
and now you're saying, but we don't.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
We don't do what our emotions the way women.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
So you gotta kick one.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. I'm not one
thing you're gonna learn.

Speaker 8 (59:10):
About the.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, I don't heal.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
I'm not gonna hold you, so let me.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Just land right hand.

Speaker 19 (59:20):
So no, I got you, and I'm gonna give a
ride back to you.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
You guys can't have it both ways.

Speaker 19 (59:25):
You cannot complain that women create these avenues for themselves
in regards to mental health, but then you also admit
that men don't process their emotions the way women do.
That's shine, and we all understand that men and women
don't process emotions the same way. But you can't get
mad that women struggle with their emotions and then find

(59:45):
and create different.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Ways to deal with it.

Speaker 19 (59:48):
You cannot make it seem as a society is just
so pro women's health and they care so much about
the mental health of women. What women are the ones
creating these avenues for themselves. That's why my first submission was,
if men cared about mental health issues, they have to
do something about it. They have to create those faces.

(01:00:10):
Because again, like you said, Prince, and you are one
hundred percent right, men and women do not process their
emotions the same.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
If doctor Vaughan breaks out and starts.

Speaker 19 (01:00:19):
Crying on this stage right now, I'm gonna ask her
for her number. Oh my god, No, it's okay. What
can I do to help? Let's talk about it, Let's
figure out solutions. I'm gonna have to be on a
three day binge with doctor Vaughan to figure out a
solution to help her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I don't know if that's what men do. Apparently, according
to AA, y'all are fine, y'all.

Speaker 19 (01:00:37):
Go, y'all play basketball, everything is cool, and then just
the drunks and the Druggies are the ones killing themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
So I need you try to pick us.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Out, and you know my thing is with you, Like
you keep acting like women ain't the biggest the common
denominated knows. This ain't about processing emotions. The point I'm
making is if I got a homeboy and I got
a woman I'm in a relationship you're with, and I'm vulnerable,
Let's say I should sound personal and vulnerable with both

(01:01:04):
of them. This is my men's and this is my lady.
Who's who's more liable to use it against me out
of the two of them. She she's gonna the woman
I'm in a relationship will do that shit to me
before my homeboy will.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
That's the point I'm trying.

Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
To make to you, And two you keep saying like
that's what I'm saying, Like, just because we don't display
or do it the same way y'all do, that doesn't mean
we're not processing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
We just don't.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
We're not gonna go call up a group of niggas
and be like, yo, let's go get mimosas because I'm
going at it. I'm going through it at home with
my lady. Like we don't do what y'all do. We're
not gonna make a group chat winding and complaining to
each other about it, and I think y'all be trying
to project how y'all go about it as a group
of women, y'all want men to do the same, And
in y'all mind, y'all think if we don't do it,
how y'all do it, we ain't doing it at all,

(01:01:50):
And that's false.

Speaker 12 (01:01:52):
So the thing is, though, there are programs for mental
health created by men, cater to men, and things that
men like to do.

Speaker 10 (01:01:59):
How about you drop the resources wrong, don't let me finish, Please,
don't cut the commercial, let me.

Speaker 12 (01:02:06):
Finish, and those programs get shut down because y'all don't
participate in them, all.

Speaker 10 (01:02:12):
Right, So ron, how about you drop all the website
resources that all as.

Speaker 12 (01:02:16):
Matter of fact, I'm gonna go find a link.

Speaker 14 (01:02:18):
There's a young man just graduated.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
We need man putting together a free eight program for
men for mental help.

Speaker 14 (01:02:30):
I'm gonna go get the link.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Get all the links.

Speaker 12 (01:02:32):
So I gotta go get auto links for y'all.

Speaker 14 (01:02:40):
Got to do autowork.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Listen, get the links and help all the mental health.

Speaker 16 (01:02:47):
Right, they probably don't know about it.

Speaker 10 (01:02:51):
Listen, if y'all just joining me and gender walls ping
it all share it out. I'm trading in the background
right now, so I'm focusing on the charts just going
up and down, and I'm trying to close this shit.
So handle this conversation. Yeah, Mac, appreciate you. Ice Stunner,
Biggie Kyla Diego ping the room out, share a room out.
Does a woman respect a man who tells her no?

(01:03:13):
Fucks no, y'all catch your heart attack? Yeah, you tell
them no. I ain't gonna lie with you, Mac. When
you tell them no, they kind of give it like
it's like, damn, what's going you know what I'm saying.
But if a woman really respects you, bro, I'm gonna lie. Yeah, really,
she's gonna respect that no, because yes, it's coming around
the corner. But a lot of y'all don't respect the no,

(01:03:33):
and it's like a hard no. I see a lot
of people crossing boundaries. You know, women are very very
very hard to accept nos. So, yeah, you want to
talk about this, brothers, sisters on the stage, Let's continue
this conversation. You know, does a woman respect the man
who tells her absolutely? Hell no, let's have some corn.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Let's go.

Speaker 15 (01:04:00):
I'll say something absolutely accept it right then and there
drot it down dated?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Are you sure though appen though it sounds no?

Speaker 15 (01:04:11):
No, no, no, Just just make sure you it's noted.
Is documented the day he told you no and what
you asked for?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:04:20):
Make a tally?

Speaker 15 (01:04:22):
Make a tally how often the man is saying no
versus yes?

Speaker 14 (01:04:27):
And then you you wad up from there?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Okay? Are you wasting your time?

Speaker 15 (01:04:31):
Or is this beneficial?

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Okay, I got it? Yeah, so that you can tell
your next your other guy. Hey, he you know the
other guy told.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Me know, hi, baby, don't worry about that nigga he
broke so you can wow.

Speaker 14 (01:04:56):
Wait, all I had was.

Speaker 15 (01:04:58):
To go to Jamaica for the week. He didn't take you.
Oh my god, let me book us a trip right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I'll take you in two weeks. So so so a
man can't tell.

Speaker 11 (01:05:11):
This woman know because the next nigga is going to
do it for you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
See how that ship goes stacks? Who's this clown dropping
links in the God damn.

Speaker 10 (01:05:19):
I think it's I think it's funner and going back
and forth, crazy link.

Speaker 14 (01:05:27):
I'm not even in that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I ain't even do they need me to keep going
or no? Because they was hot to drop it dropping
keep going.

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
I was gonna be nice and put together the whole
Google doc for y'all, but.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Put together google telegram.

Speaker 23 (01:05:41):
I heard them yelling, drop it, drop it, drop it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:43):
No, thatn't enough. That's sucking my brain up to much.
Put it in the Google docs stack. She got three
stacks him in the Google doc field in order, and
and and.

Speaker 23 (01:05:53):
That's what will take my take.

Speaker 28 (01:05:59):
Take.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Mind's going to make that spread sheet.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Yeah, we're gonna need to excel.

Speaker 12 (01:06:05):
Sheet to get these about this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
It's okay, they could just go play basketball.

Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
Why I hate look at that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
We told you, n I got a question for you,
you too, No, no motherfucker link tout your big fat
sucking mouth. Now let's get back to this. Now, have

(01:06:34):
you had to have to tell a person know? And
what was their response to your no? Any type of
situation that you guys had, big ye, It don't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
His response, all right, So let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
Explain everyone's I got a request.

Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
If they dropped one more link, can we kick them?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
You gotta pay the papa up.

Speaker 24 (01:07:00):
How much the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Pop to of these motherfucker animals? Five dollars matter fact.

Speaker 16 (01:07:06):
Dollars you can send me the money and I will
leave help your life.

Speaker 14 (01:07:13):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I don't want to help your life.

Speaker 14 (01:07:20):
You want to get rid of me. I will see
you by cash out right now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Missy McLean said. They said be vulnerable and shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Let's leave it at the check.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Let's leave it at the chat.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I dropped the link, y'all acting like, y'all don't want
the link.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
No, you gotta put it document. You had your in
my head.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Okay, I got.

Speaker 16 (01:07:45):
Y'all, I got, I got y'all.

Speaker 23 (01:07:47):
Okay, let's move on. Yes, I told him no and
he said, what are you telling him?

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
He said, did you get himmed up? After that? Son
of you?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Get the look amaze?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Oh, now she's in the yo. Yay, she's in the matrix.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
When she got that treatment back, she got that real
man treatment. She's like, I'm in the matrix. I don't
know what you're talking about. Nah, Stunner, what happened he
grabbed you up? Look at She's like, yeah, what did
this mean? What did that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:08:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:08:23):
Someone when I do that, When I when I right,
that means and I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
With someone, it does it does back in the day.

Speaker 10 (01:08:33):
But so is it fair to say that women love
toxic man toxic right, Ice, don't come on, Let's let's
stunner you too. Let's talk about this Kyla like you
hear her.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
She didn't even want to talk. I liked it. She
like chuckled a little bit, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (01:08:58):
She thought about it. So y'all like talking ship. It's
then improved my point. Toxicity lives forever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
They don't say no, but known.

Speaker 15 (01:09:15):
A man, I can tell you know, you know you
like toxic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
We heard just sy.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
You can tell I can tell you know when that's
what you're supposed to say.

Speaker 16 (01:09:25):
Yes that you're talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
You talking about Okay, take no financially, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
The ratings on this gender?

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Get we've been kicking y'all last the men have been
up for a while, she said, what's the ratings from expla?

Speaker 14 (01:09:46):
Well, that's a lie. The last topic y'all didn't even
win it.

Speaker 16 (01:09:51):
Even doctor B agree with us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
That you you think be said? Then that's what it was? Crazy?

Speaker 10 (01:10:06):
So what so what are you talking about? Because I'm
trying to I'm trying to understand. Okay, so come so
come back here, So go ahead.

Speaker 15 (01:10:14):
You know in the bedroom is when like you're like, oh,
you're too rough or be softer, be junk with me,
and he's like, no, yeah, yeah, tell her.

Speaker 10 (01:10:27):
How boring that is, How boring that is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
I don't know about that one. So you're saying, know
what what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Just make some knowing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
I think I get what you're saying.

Speaker 23 (01:10:46):
What she said, like if they don't listen to what
you're saying, they keep doing what they want.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Like it's not a bad scenario.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Double.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Doctor B's back, Doctor B.

Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
I got a question for you if you're available, if
you're not on the flight yet, Bro, Doctor B.

Speaker 16 (01:11:04):
On the flight coming going to be larger.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
All damn, Doctor B.

Speaker 10 (01:11:10):
I know you on the flight, but Bro, I just
want to know does a woman respect her man who
tells her no?

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
What do you think? B? What's good brother that he
needs to do?

Speaker 26 (01:11:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 33 (01:11:24):
We're excited options for first and that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
If you'd like to take out.

Speaker 11 (01:11:33):
Before the story is closed.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
He's on the plane.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
He's on the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
B was on the plane. I was trying to hear that.

Speaker 34 (01:11:42):
Was that was the announcement, son, I know you don't ahead, tree.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yo, be quick with this done. There that's so.

Speaker 21 (01:12:02):
No, I don't I don't know, so that's I don't
know if it really I don't know if you heard me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I don't know if it's like telling her no has
to play with respect.

Speaker 34 (01:12:10):
I know they don't hear it, but they can respect
you to tell them no.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I just don't know how much have no place. I
just know that they never like to hear no, especially if.

Speaker 24 (01:12:18):
They're attractive or they think they're attractive, because there's always
some dude like ya ya two fifty that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Tell the guests yao?

Speaker 16 (01:12:26):
Would I do what I do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
What the I do to you?

Speaker 35 (01:12:29):
Be wearing basket that's actually a T shirt?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
It's hot while you cut that on your head.

Speaker 21 (01:12:36):
Because I was in Panama and I didn't want my
head to burn from the sun.

Speaker 10 (01:12:40):
Hey, doctor B said, it is always going to be
somebody like yay. He said, yes, that's good, that's great.
Now let's continue this conversation. Does a woman respect the
man who says no? Everything's off limits? Like no, a
hard non sing this conversation? Who else is here? Stop

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going stuff from?

Speaker 11 (01:13:03):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Who else? We had a point with the pretty wom
again told no.

Speaker 11 (01:13:09):
They that ship by fight nigga.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
They on the floor like a little baby supermarket throwing
attention tank Bro, sweater, got Bro.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
That makes you give so since they acting like that, yay,
that makes you give them what they want.

Speaker 11 (01:13:29):
No, I feel like I got the power last dragon.
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Great, Now, get up, get up? Get up? Oh wow,
get up is nuts?

Speaker 11 (01:13:45):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Get up?

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
You're starting to get up is insane?

Speaker 11 (01:13:49):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Get off? Yeah, get off the floor is even worse?
Would be good.

Speaker 11 (01:13:55):
I get it for you tomorrow. It's okay, it's up.

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
It's it's how you gotta see them.

Speaker 12 (01:14:03):
It's funny because with y'all, they be falling all over
the floor and then they come talk to their girls
and be like you be telling me no, and I'd
be getting all I bother.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
They like it.

Speaker 14 (01:14:12):
It's like a little weird so.

Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
Basically so basically they acting mentally, so they active retarded.
So they're acting crazy and mentally challenge kidding me right.

Speaker 14 (01:14:23):
Now, y'all, don't y'all stay with them?

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
And then they end up getting bron.

Speaker 10 (01:14:29):
Did you just say that? They like that ship so
they like falling out and doing all. This is a therapist,
so he knows that they like acting crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:14:38):
I was just thinking from.

Speaker 12 (01:14:39):
A therapist point of view, a regular person.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
You're spilling the beans.

Speaker 22 (01:14:46):
She's talking about that girl story for the that she's
giving us the beans right now.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
You're trying to give us you say, oh no, no, no, nah,
you already spell.

Speaker 12 (01:14:55):
They like they like to be little girl by y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Wow, you have to roll on the floor. You have
to roll on the floor like a four year old
so he can feel like he has control.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
So basically, you got to drop up, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
You gotta act like you're giving him control.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
I'm gonna I treat him like it.

Speaker 28 (01:15:15):
So I grabbed my body hair drag him in the
house by the hair grab.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
It sounds like everyone's having a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Are you guys?

Speaker 10 (01:15:25):
And that sounds violent and not a good time. Not
anything sounds.

Speaker 11 (01:15:32):
I'm gonna need you to get it together.

Speaker 14 (01:15:38):
Like you ground.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Listen up in this ship? Who else jumping in the corbo? Yeah?
What's up? Does a man? Does a woman respect the
man who tells her no?

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
I want to want colo on this one. Yeah, y
are you here with us? Sister? That's good, I'm up here. Okay,
I got a question.

Speaker 10 (01:16:02):
Talk to me Okay, so have you ever you can
answer the question on the topic, But then have you
ever had a situation in your life where you had
to tell someone no? And how that shit go? Because
usually when you tell someone yes, yes, yes, he has
so many times when you get that no, it's like
they don't know how to take it. So let's talk

(01:16:26):
as Kyle has been told no? And has she been told?
Has she told other people know? And how have they
took it? That's what I want.

Speaker 16 (01:16:32):
I have that told no. I'm used to doing everything
by myself. I don't like being told though, because I
get by way. So that's something that I've had to
work on. You do not cross people's boundaries. Women don't
know boundaries. I don't care how mature you are here,
women don't know boundaries. It is something that has to

(01:16:54):
be learned. Sometimes to no gang you gain more respect
from the man. I just okay, cool, Damn, I told her,
know what's going on? She's she's chilling, you know what?

Speaker 11 (01:17:05):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Turn around?

Speaker 16 (01:17:06):
Think about it? That I know for a factya two
and women say they emotionally intelligent, but a lot of
us we can't handle with no, especially when we want something,
when we really want something we can't handle with no,
okay cool and to y'all us acting like y'all just
walk away with classing, with y'all boiling on the inside,

(01:17:27):
that's a fact. I don't care what you're talking about.
It takes a lot of growth to get to be
okay with no it do. I'm still working on it.
I don't like no, that's a fact. I even convinced
my daddy to say, yes, you understand, you know what
I'm saying. So that have I ever told a person though, Yes,

(01:17:48):
And the one incident the man crashed out, he crashed out,
stupid y'all, all that crazy stuff. So whether you're a tarbor,
whether you're a grown woman, yeah, because and they do
it on this apple lot. To tell them no, tell them,

(01:18:08):
tell some of these immatures, tell them that, you know
what I'm saying, they.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
Do all that it takes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I think it takes a seasoned woman.

Speaker 16 (01:18:22):
It takes a seasoned woman and a woman who's more
emotionally mature to handle or No. Young women can't handle it,
no like that. We we can't handle it, no like that.
It tastes growth and self awareness to work on handling
and no, if I'm lying. I'm flying because I'm working
on handling that. What you mean? No, okay, you're talking
to somebody who's working on hyperdependence.

Speaker 11 (01:18:42):
I do.

Speaker 16 (01:18:42):
I'm a goddamn self.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Have we got a problem?

Speaker 11 (01:18:45):
Question? Yeah? What's up?

Speaker 16 (01:18:47):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
What do you believe?

Speaker 18 (01:18:50):
Anything that you believe?

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
One of it? Like anytime somebody see something believe?

Speaker 16 (01:18:54):
No, sometimes I do, Sometimes I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Cool, So why do you think we would just be
sapping all like that?

Speaker 16 (01:19:02):
Because I've been a part of I've witnessed it.

Speaker 36 (01:19:07):
Sadly, I was the one I was. I'm wanted the
ones that do right. I just did this I did
to a cold people. I'll cut your ways so old time,
like man, I come regularly like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
The bitch from trulling This ship is not real. I
don't take this as serious. Take it serious? And the
goal that was that's crazy and ship? Why is God nigga?

Speaker 11 (01:19:33):
Again?

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
But I feel what Kyla said. I have to go.
I have to go be in the trees to calm down.
After No, it hurts really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Wow, so you're gonna go?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Yeah, I have to go take a nap in the
in the trees. It hurts really bad.

Speaker 13 (01:19:55):
What kind of news are we talking about that people
are getting so upset about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
It doesn't matter, and it doesn't It don't matter, Laila.
It doesn't matter if.

Speaker 23 (01:20:04):
It's a restaurant preference and you say no, list, I'm
so hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
It just hurts anything.

Speaker 23 (01:20:12):
It has to be really really big for me to
be like, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm gonna count to ten.
I'm gonna take a deep breath and deal with this
because it's for the betterment.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
But if it's something small, yeah, I can't take it.

Speaker 16 (01:20:26):
If your feelings involved, you might you might be have
a issue with the note. That's another thing. Let a
woman feelings be involved, and dude say, no, oh boy,
oh boy?

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Is that The ones who be.

Speaker 16 (01:20:43):
It don't gotta be that, ain't nobody. If you got
something to lose, you ain't doing that. But you're definitely
gonna feel a way about that. No, you might even
get into it with him later on because that no
don't sit right with you. It's been marinating for a
couple of hours and you just waiting to get your
rocks off because you shouldn't see it. No one, because
to us, he shouldn't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
No, one in the first place.

Speaker 16 (01:21:04):
You know what I'm saying, right, I try not to
put myself in situations where I know there's a possibility
to be no. I think me and Layla had that conversation.
When you know you're a person, you kind of already
know what Noah is. So to avoid hearing it, I'll
just pretend that I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Don't want to stop it. Stop don't I don't Rosie,

(01:21:44):
you're catching fit stunner.

Speaker 11 (01:21:46):
Somebody tell your stop.

Speaker 24 (01:21:48):
I said that.

Speaker 23 (01:21:49):
I already said that I have a hard time. I
cannot breathe properly. But like Collie said, we are work
can find that, so I know there's a possibility to
be no. I just may not ask.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
They're don't think the nigga broke.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
No, they don't have to be money. You don't have
to be money.

Speaker 23 (01:22:16):
Yeah, if I want to watch something and you tell
me no, I don't know, I might feel away for
a moment that.

Speaker 21 (01:22:23):
I don't know a little stuff like that.

Speaker 16 (01:22:24):
I'm gonna go to sleep. I don't care about that
we're watching your show.

Speaker 11 (01:22:27):
I want to sec you go to sleep.

Speaker 16 (01:22:30):
That's that's how we don't have that. I'll go right
to sleep. I'm not going to play that game. You
want to watch? What's that old?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I don't want It took me a while for Ozark.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I'm going to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Ain't watching what I want.

Speaker 16 (01:22:41):
Let's catch some.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I ain't gonna spasm, don't believe.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
Definitely went to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Kyler said, I'm going to sleep. It's nuts.

Speaker 11 (01:22:52):
Wow, there's no kind of rejection?

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Stocks is it like a reject? Well, when they go
to sleep kind of.

Speaker 37 (01:23:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
You tell them no?

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
Oh to them today? Think it's the rejection? Yeah, yeah,
of course, of course who tells them no? Who tells
them now? Especially if you're pretty.

Speaker 16 (01:23:15):
I think it's from your upbringing too. I think a
lot of a lot of women are used to what
their fathers do.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 11 (01:23:23):
That's stupid.

Speaker 23 (01:23:25):
That's what they used to most people. Most people will say,
you have to get a man like your father, especially
if he is a good man in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
That's your idea of a man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
So that's all your daddy told your nigga. Theres no
plenty of time.

Speaker 24 (01:23:39):
My dad ain't told me no.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
I know you lie.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I believe he told you no.

Speaker 11 (01:23:45):
I'm about to pull up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Look why they're all quiet, Like, what do you pull up,
Let's get into that, nigga. When you pulling up to nigga,
we ain't no awkward nigga.

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
We know that's Rightiggas get to a nigga like that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
You got.

Speaker 10 (01:24:19):
My nigga word like, that's why I want to know, nigga.
When you pulling up to you, you're going over there, nigga. Figga,
how you fly in the stunners?

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
Nigga?

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Dad, you feel me like you're a a pop.

Speaker 7 (01:24:36):
Did you ever tell this young lady know before? Because
she's saying you said yes to everything.

Speaker 23 (01:24:41):
He's going to say, I don't tell my children's relationship.

Speaker 26 (01:24:49):
You're supposed to raise your kids how to deal with
the word no, man like once you catch up growing
up thinking that they can get anything they want.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Come on, but see you in the same token. I
know I know what my dad would say no too.
Like I said earlier, some things you just won't ask.

Speaker 37 (01:25:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 23 (01:25:06):
To save myself that heartbreak and that trouble, that disappointment,
I'm smart enough to just know, like, no, my dadd
he's not gonna do that. I'm not even gonna try
to push it. You may be a ten percent chance
that he'll say yes, But I'm not even gonna try
to push it, so I don't have.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
To hear that no.

Speaker 23 (01:25:18):
So I'm gonna ask pretty much what I know. It's
gonna be one hundred percent yes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Let him explained to you that you don't need it.
He's not telling you no either. Now, you don't need that.
You're good. Relax, that's what are teaching you. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:25:31):
You don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Yeah, he's not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Though, old man.

Speaker 28 (01:25:42):
It is not a great man if he doesn't tell
his girl no.

Speaker 38 (01:25:49):
So you said, my daddy's not great, the greatest niggada great.

Speaker 10 (01:26:02):
Hey, I got a question for you, Stunner and Kyler
and Rosie Rico, welcome back. Do men only value Yeah? Well,
do men only value women who suffer for them?

Speaker 11 (01:26:14):
Y'all?

Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
I like the drag women through the mud, through the dirt,
through everything, and then she gets married her. Yeah, I
see that a lot.

Speaker 37 (01:26:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Oh, she's unsuffered.

Speaker 10 (01:26:26):
It's been battered and bruised and beating down to the
fucking question.

Speaker 9 (01:26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:26:35):
Stunna, you're going first. Actually, since you want to say
what kind of questions? You don't even get no chance
to think, do men only value women who suffer for them,
like like go through unbearableing hoops, fire loops and and
jumping jacks. Stunner over to you kick this conversation off
since you want to come off mute first.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
It's off to you because you say you're a man.

Speaker 11 (01:26:59):
So Mom's answer the question.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
I don't need niggas speaking for me. What's the question?

Speaker 23 (01:27:06):
Do men only value women who suffer from them? Absolutely not?
No value you. No, I would disrespect you to the
end of days. I will trow you. I would disrespect
you for for the end of time. If I'm gonna
deal with you, it's a conscious decision. But no, I
don't value No.

Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
No, there was actually okay.

Speaker 23 (01:27:30):
Do the women value right?

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Get rights?

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
What's an example of her suffering for the man? Like
her suffering from.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
She could be I So for example, so say if
she she she stayed after the man?

Speaker 11 (01:27:46):
The man?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Right? Are we tapping the phone with me and count?
Men put women through ship all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:27:57):
So.

Speaker 16 (01:27:59):
I think they I feel like they have to say.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
They just feel bad.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
You see.

Speaker 8 (01:28:03):
If I'm like, if I'm treating her like shit and
she just keeps staying with.

Speaker 10 (01:28:08):
I feel like men value that more like they're like, oh, yeah,
this is the one that been with me all these years,
twenty some years. And then they put more value on
that woman, you feel me because she suffered a little.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
Bit more stacks of Let me just get it up,
because everybody like body.

Speaker 11 (01:28:24):
I don't get you know. That's why I'm gonna start
sitting in the google big.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
I can't. I'm just so disppell it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
Anyway, we all, well, some group of men know that
we do put women through the ship to see if
they're gonna stay there and last, and if they do it,
we do show them respect. The thing is the same
chick that you fucking you're treating this the way the
same trick. It us a daisy line treating the same

(01:28:53):
way that you're loving. Right, and so niggas that have
like two three little wifees I call it.

Speaker 11 (01:28:58):
And then he dragging one through the mound.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
He dragged his main chick through the mud.

Speaker 7 (01:29:02):
Then he let the he lead the other chick in
the mud, keep with his other chicken. She thinks she did,
you know, like she was supposed to get that wife
he treatment. She either she knows she he had to
do or she never knew that he had a due
you feel me. But the one that is his Wifey,
she get everything but ship. She could left them the
dust too. I left a lot of them in the mud.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
I'm not anybody else want to be a.

Speaker 16 (01:29:26):
Real Let's go back to what does go back to ya?
What we talk about this morning? What do we really
hit on this morning? Pride and ego? Your issues always
connect right there. That's that's that that has to do
with pride and ego, right because we know, right, you

(01:29:47):
don't have to suffer.

Speaker 14 (01:29:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 (01:29:50):
That's an ego validation. You do not have to suffer
to know real love. You don't.

Speaker 8 (01:29:55):
You don't.

Speaker 16 (01:29:57):
They don't need you to suffer to prove your worth.
They value your piece, your joy, your stability, and you
inspire them, not tolerate them. So a lot of women
prior to ego just go to self esteem woo because
we God damn, this is I'm telling you all, y'all
to tap my phone because I've been reading on this
and I haven't write, and I gotta do this because
I see, I see you, I see my lady.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
We say you're hitting on it.

Speaker 16 (01:30:20):
Because I had to write about it rite how I
felt about it. No, you don't have to do that
long suffering. And see a lot of women think, oh,
if I stick around, I'm loyal. You don't view you
what's loyalty. That's why a lot of men eat with
women and they walk through the fire with them. He
don't respect you, and you think if you stay, you
more respected. No, it don't go that way. It does

(01:30:41):
not go that way. You do not have to have
long suffering to be respected and emotionally immature men only
does that, and it is a what ego validation?

Speaker 26 (01:30:54):
Oh my god at this point because the women stay
because she didn't want and women.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
That have if he that, Nigga's.

Speaker 16 (01:31:02):
Got an ego problem too. Women will sit in a
relationship with a man because they don't want to see
them with somebody else, not because they love them. Now
she got an ego and prior issue, you got an ego. Price,
it's control, it's control, it's control. And then those type
of women it all and men it goes down to

(01:31:24):
self esteem and self worth prior ego, self esteel and
self worth. It all goes hand in hand. Women will
stay with a man and think that their whole value
is based on them having a man. I wish the
fuck I would. You should be yourself and love yourself
before you get into a relationship. Ain't no real.

Speaker 14 (01:31:44):
Woman putting up with that.

Speaker 16 (01:31:45):
You ain't and you not putting up with that. You're
not putting up with that. No weak women do that.
Ain't nobody putting up not no person who's mature, who
really loves themselves. They're not putting up with that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Women weak women weak.

Speaker 16 (01:32:04):
It ain't naive. These women we ain't. We ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
We ain't in our twenties in here.

Speaker 16 (01:32:09):
These are weak. So if you do that, you're weak.
You're not naive. Hey, we done been through some stuff,
all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
I know, I'm thirty.

Speaker 16 (01:32:16):
We'd have been through some stuff, right, So now you're
not naives. Some of y'all forty, They ain't stupid. Ask
them why they say it ain't because they dumb. Well,
if I don't get a man, y'all performative. When we
talked about performance, jump through hoops of jump and jacks,
just to have a man, a piece of a man. Yo,

(01:32:37):
you love him anyway, but you don't want another woman
to get him because he just might be better off
with her, and you just maybe you just might be
the single one that that ain't naivety. Yay, I'm sorry,
it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
It's a weak woman.

Speaker 16 (01:32:53):
Pride and ego issues, control issues, self esteego.

Speaker 25 (01:33:03):
I think men value woman is naivety or a woman's wisdom.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
More generally, I think I think men value the courage
of a woman. Oh shit, I got very bard if
a woman. If a man do a woman wrong and
she walks right away, he gonna chase her.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
He gonna respect her too.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
He may even stay clean for about two weeks, two
years up, two months, I'm telling you, and then you
know that man might even drop to the knee. But
if you just a woman, that that's gonna let a
man keep running over you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
He's gonna keep running over.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
You until we found some type of value inside of you.
And by then, by that time, y'all we you know, we.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Drag out through the mother so long.

Speaker 11 (01:33:46):
Like y'all be like, nah, I'm not be fuck all
of that. I'm not even trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
I'm just stuck with you.

Speaker 11 (01:33:50):
I'm not trying to marry you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
It's gonna be disrespect a whole lot of that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
If a man gonna put it with it, he's gonna
settle for it.

Speaker 11 (01:33:57):
He's just gonna settle for it.

Speaker 25 (01:33:58):
True, yo, bro, you think most men have the luxury
of being able to make a mistake with women?

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Most men?

Speaker 8 (01:34:11):
Nah nahas niggas gotta be superman.

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
I'm not gonna keep putting my business like I'm dumb
with this ship because people like to, you know, bring
it back to you and start talking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
So I'm going to shut up. That's why you did
that too.

Speaker 16 (01:34:32):
Do you see do you see the people that's gonna
bring something back to you?

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Come on, now, this is crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:34:39):
I want to give a about Listen, don't let me
get I mean say what you said. I like it
because when I hear different men's perspectives and not just
the being around me. Or when you know, when I
when I talk about sessions, I'm talking with the people
that I talk with.

Speaker 29 (01:34:56):
It adds.

Speaker 16 (01:34:57):
Y'all help me. I don't look at it the judge.
I can't judge nobody who's slating here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Clean it helps basically want to know. That's what.

Speaker 16 (01:35:17):
Well, if he wants to open up, Ya has been
transparent all morning, Matt, He's been He's actually been.

Speaker 11 (01:35:25):
Something else, texting it break.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
Is coming in the room.

Speaker 16 (01:35:30):
But I was saying, if you would like to be transparent,
I would love for you to be transparent because it
helped me. When I hear from other men and they
get their perspectives on life and relationships, it helps me.

Speaker 11 (01:35:41):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:35:41):
I'm just gonna write notes down and then I'm gonna
talk about it.

Speaker 24 (01:35:45):
Is to learn from myself.

Speaker 16 (01:35:47):
No, I think I got two years in the game.
It's like getting another degree. I gotta I gotta get
my associates first work.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
I'm leaning in my bed. I ain't saying you're talking
about I'm chilling.

Speaker 10 (01:36:02):
Yo, real quick, real quick. Let's get back to the topic.
Do men only value women who suffer for them? Anybody
can chime in. If you guys are just now joining
U tapping with the Gender Worlds Worldwide clubhousehouse on here
and so that way you can catch in a pink
ticket if you haven't joined, the telegram makes you do that.
If you haven't joined the fourth Telogram, make sure you
do it. Do that as well. Let's continue this conversation.

(01:36:24):
Anybody can get on stage popcorn style. Do men only
suffer when women?

Speaker 11 (01:36:29):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Do men?

Speaker 10 (01:36:29):
Only value women who suffer for them. Let's continue this conversation.
Anybody jumping popcorn style, Let's go truly.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
If you truly value her, you wouldn't want her to
suffer at all in any capacity. Why would you want
the person who you give a fuck about the suffer.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
That's crazy, But hey, what the fuck do I know?

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Like my PTR.

Speaker 18 (01:36:49):
With a wife in the house, my PTR.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
No sug You gotta refresh it, you see it. I
thought I thought it was pretty funny. But yeah, that's
so funny about that. Black folks say slavery never happened.

(01:37:16):
It's you know, I thought it was a pretty humorous thing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
On the boat back to Haiti.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
I'm sick of I want to go to Haiti and
you tripp him getting money in America. Man, stop it.
But I never met a brother who actually gave a
funk about his woman that wanted her to suffer.

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
Man, That shit crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Man. It's not direct, like you know. It all depends
on your upbringing. Man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:37:47):
We're older now, so we can only talk about we
did it with the things that we've done in the
past and the mistakes that we made. In the past
and stuff like that. So that's not how I move now.
But I did once once, once upon a time, but
I knew I didn't know better, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
So yeah, if.

Speaker 11 (01:38:03):
She, if she took my ship through all the suffering
and stuff like that, I buy cars, I buy everything
and give a bread, you know what I'm saying, Like
you know, and I take out.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
I treated like a lady. But I come from a
different background than.

Speaker 11 (01:38:15):
A whole lot of people. Do you feel me?

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
So if I come from the background, come from it's
like a lot of street ship. So if she can't
stand in the paint while we're going through ship whatever
some what if my dog could kick now, you're gonna
give me up. That's that's the mindset I have back then,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 25 (01:38:33):
So it was different, That's all I'm saying. If she
ain't whether this storm, she shouldn't be here with the sunshine.
Let's just have a go the gym.

Speaker 10 (01:38:44):
Yo, she ain't going through the fire. I don't want
you what haitians talking about through?

Speaker 21 (01:38:50):
Whether the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Want to put you?

Speaker 29 (01:39:01):
I said, I want you?

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
You want to bitch theer?

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Wow? That's great?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Yeah, motherfucker go through.

Speaker 39 (01:39:18):
That was too, because you got to see it from both.

Speaker 26 (01:39:23):
So what I what I see like, what I see
it as is like I see it from both sides,
So instead of just looking at it from one way
or another.

Speaker 39 (01:39:32):
I see it as yes and no.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Like you do want a woman.

Speaker 39 (01:39:35):
To suffer to show that she cares about you and
that she wanted to go through something for you, But
on the other hand, you don't want her to suffer emotionally,
so you really should extinguish, like what type of way
or what type of suffering you mean, because at the
end of the day, somebody else might suffer differently than
another person does, so some things could be just effortlessly.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
No problems.

Speaker 26 (01:39:58):
You just gotta know who you mean us some way,
and you gotta know yourself the best to be able
to distinguish if she's worth, if she's worthy to even
be suffering for you, because some things you just gotta
take into consideration. Some things could be left and and

(01:40:19):
some things could be kept, but it's all up to
the two individuals. But I'm done though I'll land my plane.

Speaker 9 (01:40:26):
I'm gonna try to explain it the best way I can.
Every friend that you got your true friends, all your friends,
because y'all not went through some shit like you know
where they're staying. You didn't get that way just by
hanging out. You didn't get that way just by like, oh,
chopping it up talking. No, it didn't work that way.
You got those people, but that ain't that ain't your

(01:40:47):
real friend, Your real friend. You got some stories to tell.
You got some nice that y'all probably got locked up
for a night. You got some nice that y'all probably did,
some shit that y'all not proud of. You got some nice,
but y'all got some stories where y'all went through it themselves.

Speaker 18 (01:41:02):
You and him probably almost came to fist the cuffs.

Speaker 9 (01:41:05):
Who fucking knows, Maybe y'all had to go do spin
the block on somebody. Whatever y'all did is what y'all did.
But during those times, that's where your bond occurred. Some
people may say, well, that's that's kind of like a
crazy friendship. That shit seemed kind of wild, but you
understand it because it made y'all now where y'all at. Now,

(01:41:26):
y'all look at that shit like you know, without a doubt,
it's not a doubt in your mind, that if it
came down to it, that person would rise. It's not
a doubt in your mind that if some shit flew
out the handle, your dude, if you in the club
and somebody start acting crazy, you ain't got to worry
about it. You ain't even knowing that, like y'all ain't
even y'all so far past that point of like you,

(01:41:47):
that's your brother now, but just he just your friend.
You can't be surface level with no woman. I don't
care how many good times y'all had or what y'all had.
You have to kind of know that she's kind of
in the right place. I got a question for you, off,

(01:42:08):
stay when you're done smoke crayco. You know, cut your
big fat sucking.

Speaker 11 (01:42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:42:20):
When y'all need to go ahead and do a business
and you start selling wigs like ya.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Ya, why I'm not nice to ric.

Speaker 18 (01:42:33):
Y'all say suffering, y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:42:35):
Y'all, y'all say suffering, man, I say, test the honorbility.
You can word it however you want to word it.
Y'all say suffering. I say, you have to let us
stand on business. But in a different way. You have
to know that she is who she is it's gonna
be some tears behind that. I'm not talking about what
you're talking about. You out there just acting and don't
with other women. But it's gonna be some yelling, it's

(01:42:57):
gonna be some situations ship behind that ship she have
some tears. It's gonna be some hectic shit behind that.
But you may be wrong in a few of those instances,
but you have to know that she ain't going no where.

Speaker 18 (01:43:10):
You got to know that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:11):
And then when you know that that's going in a
way sound crazy, No, it's not trauma. BONDI bar sounds crazy,
but in a way, you're gonna be like yo, now
I can certify you as being a soldier that you
are in a different way. So like if your girl
is your girl or your wife or whatever, if it's

(01:43:33):
too playhousey, too like joky pokey, like that shit is
just not gonna be it. It's just it's not. It's
not it's not it's not gonna be real your lady
like it's it's love. They're big love there, but it's
a little bit of pain in there, a little bit
of all kinds of things mixed in there. But the

(01:43:54):
thing that's not there is the doubt that you know
she there now.

Speaker 18 (01:43:59):
Sometimes I'm a.

Speaker 9 (01:44:00):
Laying here at the end of it all, you may
look back and be like, yeah, I wish I could
did this a little better.

Speaker 18 (01:44:06):
I wish I would have said that. I wish I
would have did that.

Speaker 9 (01:44:08):
But at the end of the day, you still know
that woman loves you, and that's what makes you proper
up like that, maybe you do look at like a
form of payment for like her being, you know, being
the way she was. Maybe that is kind of like
twisted if you look at it from a wrong lens.
But to me, if you just got a girl and
you don't a woman, or you don't really know, like

(01:44:30):
really that just because she say words words don't mean
you have to. I'm telling you you're gonna have to
have a throw a few knives at you, a few
pots and pass and if you get your ship and
get out or I don't want to see you a
hang up or biblical Texas in the middle of the night.
If you ain't, it's going it's you gotta you gotta
go through that too to to kind of realign her

(01:44:52):
mascarre or gotta.

Speaker 18 (01:44:53):
Run a few times. That's all I'm that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
Man, Yeah, y'all, y'all be talking man, because y'all know,
damn well, if sister, if y'all sister was getting put
through the fire by a brother, you look at him
some way like you feel something. Yeah, but that's what
I'm saying, Like he wasn't a solid, He wasn't a
solid dude because he put your sister. I know, I

(01:45:17):
get that, I understand that, but you know what I mean, like,
let's be let's be honest and saying that that don't
make a brother solid. That don't make him like a
real dude. That just because he put his woman that
he's care about. I just want to said the truth.
I know, said the truth or your daughter, right, Like
come on, like we got daughters, man, Like, come on,

(01:45:40):
tell you we know we know that ship ain't right
when you know the brothers be doing the book. Come on, man,
we know that ship right.

Speaker 9 (01:45:51):
The way I tread on my homeboys either, but I
don't it still don't change the fact they're still my homeboy.

Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
The only the only thing what I'm saying is when
we look at the correctness or the incorrenect correctness as
to whether or not a woman must suffer for her man,
we know that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
Incorrect, Bro, we know that ship, ain't you know?

Speaker 5 (01:46:11):
We know that ship.

Speaker 18 (01:46:13):
I didn't invent the game, bro, I'm just part of you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
I'm just saying we got we just admit that what
the game is this? This ship is fucked up, Yo,
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
But just to say that it's not up and wow,
you never you never did this to a woman before. Look, man,
this ain't about me, brother.

Speaker 35 (01:46:36):
Did you do it about run?

Speaker 6 (01:46:43):
What I'm trying to say is we know that ship
fucked up. That's all I'm saying. Man, we know we
know that ship funked up.

Speaker 18 (01:46:49):
Man, when light comes on the roaches scalter?

Speaker 13 (01:46:55):
Is there a difference between the relationship be battle tested
and you actually putting her stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Like intentionally?

Speaker 13 (01:47:04):
Because I feel like it's important for people to be
battle tested, but like you breaking someone over their coals
to prove that they're loyal to you sounds very different.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Did this planting chip? Eatn motherfucker? Tell the truth of
what we're he at?

Speaker 6 (01:47:21):
We know that ship for the Come on, That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
We know that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Did you do it?

Speaker 11 (01:47:27):
How many times.

Speaker 40 (01:47:27):
Did you listen, man, this ain't about me. I don't
name me something for you. Don't center name me something
for you. Haitian sensation, name me somebody, situation.

Speaker 9 (01:47:39):
Every great athlete, every great star, every great iconic historical figure,
every great I'm sorry, adversity is a part of it.
It's just a part of that thing becoming great. It's
just a part in the adversity. The people that lasted,
I'm just saying, they usually go on. If the story
is too good and too happy, it usually don't have

(01:48:02):
nothing good at the end. It just it's got to
be that. It has to be the adversity, the disappointment,
all that has to be a part of it.

Speaker 18 (01:48:10):
It just has to be a.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
Think a woman putting in work and the relationship is
her suffering.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Do you think that because you put it in.

Speaker 18 (01:48:19):
Word, she can put in worse. May be a perfectly
good girl. That doesn't mean that Sometimes I'm an at
a donkey. Don't mean that. Don't mean I ain't gonna
act a donkey. Doesn't mean that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
And I think that's what you're trying to say, just
because she's doing the right thing, that I'm always gonna
do the right thing I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
I'm not.

Speaker 14 (01:48:36):
Is it okay?

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
If I have.

Speaker 33 (01:48:40):
Okay, So I'm gonna say this. I don't think it's
a matter of.

Speaker 16 (01:48:47):
Oh if if she's.

Speaker 33 (01:48:49):
The right woman or whatever, then oh that means I'm
gonna treat her right or whatever. It's as far as
like a man's maturity and how a man can handle
himself when he's out of that, like, oh, I'm gonna
mess with different women and I'm gonna do this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
What What the fuck did you?

Speaker 18 (01:49:15):
Is he going back to infidality.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
I'm trying. I'm trying to make it.

Speaker 37 (01:49:22):
No.

Speaker 33 (01:49:22):
Well, I'm saying it the best way I can communicy.
But what I was saying is, you know, it doesn't
mean like okay, as far as the man right, it's like, okay,
certain qualities or whatever that women look for in a man.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
Right.

Speaker 33 (01:49:45):
We don't want them to cheat, We don't want them
to do.

Speaker 16 (01:49:47):
X, Y and Z.

Speaker 33 (01:49:49):
Right, that's a fair consensus, right between everybody, man and women.
We all think that a woman would be in search
of that, right.

Speaker 41 (01:50:05):
What you're talking to, Yeah, let me say something here.
When you guys get a chance times shot.

Speaker 14 (01:50:17):
No, it's okay, I'm I'm done. It's something, Okay.

Speaker 33 (01:50:24):
All I was saying is like, there's no guarantee, Like, okay,
if a woman is like super loyal to her man
or whatever.

Speaker 16 (01:50:37):
There is, there is no.

Speaker 14 (01:50:44):
I would say.

Speaker 33 (01:50:45):
It's like, it's like this, okay, when a woman, when
a woman choose, I'm I'm gonna say it right now
because now together, So when a woman is super loyal
to her and right, that's a choice she's.

Speaker 14 (01:51:02):
Making just for herself.

Speaker 33 (01:51:04):
I want to be loyal to this person, and I
want to hold this person down, whether it's reciprocated or not.
But that doesn't mean that a man shouldn't reciprocate the
same type of loyalty and energy towards that woman.

Speaker 6 (01:51:21):
That's a gambled when she invests heart into a man,
she gambling, She rolling the dice. Ain't know guarantee she
going to get a return on it. You see what
I'm saying, and what she got. And yeah, she had
the casino when she do that, and she dedicated herself
to that level.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
She had the casino.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
She rolling the dice, literally spinning the wheel, right, she
playing the price.

Speaker 41 (01:51:47):
Well, I'll say that it's the times for our shirk.

Speaker 42 (01:51:49):
I'll say that I think that men have to show
that they will suffer with a woman through hard times
before women.

Speaker 41 (01:51:57):
Will trust you.

Speaker 42 (01:52:00):
And then once yeah, sure, you know, I think that
I'm not really sure where this title is kind of going,
but I mean I think that I'm I think, you know,
nobody should have to suffer. I guess would be the
ideal answer. But it's like, is you know, if you
want to put it into the general black man black
woman discussion, it's about you know, there's the suffering of

(01:52:23):
like the trauma, bonding suffering, right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
You want you want to love, buddy, think about what
you talk about.

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
You I get moved from.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
Talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Trauma, binding suffering. Is he still on there?

Speaker 6 (01:52:59):
That was that we need to be alliance with the
sisters because the sisters getting the bag right now?

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
For real, for real, you should worry about my sisters.

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
Getting it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
They're not They're not getting it, they're not getting it bad.
We just explaining things that we've been through. We are
older now, we don't do this to women, bro.

Speaker 28 (01:53:19):
But when we can't say that we haven't done this
to women.

Speaker 10 (01:53:23):
Now, I understand why you don't be having real conversations
with these motherfuckers. I never did this motherfucker sound good
on clubhouse. Niggas stop capping. That's why MAC don't even
be talking like niggas crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:53:35):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (01:53:35):
I told you'all niggas stopped lying on the stage. I
have a real conversation on here staring.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
No, I never did that before. I'm the perfect husband.

Speaker 10 (01:53:42):
Niggast the fuck up nigga, Nigga, something yall, niggas. Niggas,
you don't here saying niggas, y'all.

Speaker 11 (01:53:51):
So many.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Screwed up nigga. I'm not done.

Speaker 10 (01:53:55):
I'm let y'all go, bro, But I'm saying, niggas, we
don't here acting like they so perfect, bro, Like they
never did ship.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
When they were younger.

Speaker 10 (01:54:01):
If you married old man now, nigga, good for you.
I'm talking about what you used to do, your experience.
That's why I like having these conversations because I like
that real ship from what happened experiences. But when y'all
start coming on here lying and ship, I'm cuting up, Bro.
Sounds that never happened to me before. I never put
a woman through that. Nigga, stop lying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Look at me, George.

Speaker 43 (01:54:27):
Just a reminder if she suffered alongside you when you
were poor. That's a keeper.

Speaker 10 (01:54:32):
Exactly exactly exactly when when when you were when this
getting somewhere?

Speaker 33 (01:54:41):
So can I can I ask this question? Because it's like, okay,
if if you know you're poor whatever, and a girl's
beside your side, you know, like wait until.

Speaker 14 (01:54:55):
Ship is good, you know, for you.

Speaker 33 (01:54:57):
But they're carrying you all the way through, you know,
being by your side and stuff, would it be the
same for if a man isn't as mature as you
would one, would that.

Speaker 14 (01:55:12):
Be the same.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
What do you mean the maturity?

Speaker 33 (01:55:16):
Like he's not active, Yeah, like he's not over the
like you know, the different women things, you know, just
like certain things that that may not that yeah, that may.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Not be valuable to the right framing for this.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
Okay, So like.

Speaker 43 (01:55:40):
The two what are the two rules that every man
has to achieve when he goes out of your house
every day? What are the two things women judgment on
to determine their manner that money?

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
I'm gonna tell you that bad got to come back
on the table, brother, correct, that's number one? What else?
Let me hear the second one.

Speaker 43 (01:56:03):
The second one is when he speaks, other men are
supposed to obey him or at least acknowledge his presence.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
That's security.

Speaker 14 (01:56:14):
I don't think it's that.

Speaker 33 (01:56:17):
Hold on, hold on, because I maybe it's not exactly,
but as far as like having respect just generally so
they know how to approach other men, it's not necessarily

(01:56:40):
what you were saying.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
It's not that.

Speaker 33 (01:56:43):
It's just being able to be respectful in every scenario.
So if they're dealing with the man or you know,
with the woman, just having respect.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Nigga's jumping in, trying to jump on her. Let her
get her work.

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
Life right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
This is what doctor said.

Speaker 35 (01:57:14):
Doctor B said, y'all, don't be y'all, don't be testing
no woman. Y'all be immature and not ready for no relationship.
That's doctor.

Speaker 43 (01:57:29):
Okay, Well, I was testing to see if she knew
what a man was in the first place. Because I've
been in these feminist spaces for about two years. I
don't even know the requirements for someone to be a man.
But they keep saying they're looking for a good man,
and then you ask them, what are the two requirements?
Go get the bread by any means necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
Make sure.

Speaker 14 (01:57:56):
I wouldn't say it, say that. I would, yes, how.

Speaker 33 (01:58:01):
Right here, That's all I would say, is just being respectful,
you know how to navigate, you know, and show that
respect with men and women. I would say that I
don't feel like you the men were wrong saying like okay,
the bag, Yeah that's true, but that's just what.

Speaker 16 (01:58:24):
I was saying.

Speaker 33 (01:58:25):
I don't think it's a man o by another man.
That's I wouldn't say it like that. I would say
it just having a respect that.

Speaker 9 (01:58:36):
Works against your favor, even more so because if I
have a bag, you then become minimized. The people that
have resources know that they have resources, they know that
people are seeking them for resources.

Speaker 18 (01:58:48):
So now I really got to see what you're about.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
That goes with friends everybody, because I got to separate
the people that just there for the want to be
around me for what I got, and who's really there.
So as a woman that women always say they want
me with money, now you're in a real precarious position
because now there's so many of you that's so easily
obtainable to me that now how do I sort out
the people that's there for my for my good intentions

(01:59:13):
and well being. Now you are the easiest thing to
come by, that's that's nothing. How do you tell a
man that you're talking about, Go get in the bag.
He talking about to make you a good man. You
know how many dudes go out and men respect them
and everyone who listen to them, and they got the matter.
They're not good people. They're not good people. That's not
a good person just because you meet those two qualifiers.

(01:59:36):
Do people respect you and honor you because of who
you are? Or do they respect and honor you because
they fear you? Or do hold on or do they respect.

Speaker 11 (01:59:46):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
A question?

Speaker 9 (01:59:48):
Relax, mama, You gotta chill out. You gotta just you
gotta just gotta you gotta listen. Take the same five
ten to you more. You need to just pipe it
down a man to get back on the train. What
I'm telling about, by the.

Speaker 41 (01:59:58):
Way, time score shock, I'm back, love to finish my thoughts.

Speaker 9 (02:00:01):
Right, hold on you just you just chill right because
we let you back up here time square. Y'all just
had an active shooter. Why don't you go find a
man that's shooting in Manhattan right now? The bottom line
is this what I'm what what I'm telling you is
that you gotta go. You gotta you gotta think about
this right like everything you saying to men, and I'm

(02:00:22):
just trying to explain this the best way I can.
Without you come across women in your life, it has
to be a way that you separate them you. You
have to learn to distinguish people that's there for you
and people that's only there for what you got or
to try to take advantage of you. And the only

(02:00:44):
way you gonna see that is through time and through
some adversity. You don't you did not go to Hogwarts.
You don't have a crystal ball. So if people that's
willing to leave, backstab, gossip, put your and it's on
social media. If you yell at that person and they
storm off, you did yourself a favor because you know

(02:01:06):
they was not worthy of anything that would happen, and
that person probably would fold on you in a heartbreak.
So the people that are usually close to people women
and men in their lives are usually I hate to
say it, it sounds crazy, you mightn't want to accept it,
but they are usually people that kind of been dragged
around a little bit. They kind of had to get

(02:01:27):
dragged a little bit because they were so loyal and
loved the person so much that now the person that
kind of dragged them. They know outside of that, they
don't want nothing else from me. I'm gonna give them.

Speaker 24 (02:01:39):
The world now.

Speaker 18 (02:01:41):
But I had to put them through that. I had
to do it to see really what they would do.

Speaker 43 (02:01:48):
Yeah, and I can understand that, okay, but it's not
that complicated. Like when women choose a man, they just
check those two things on the list. If he doesn't
meet all both requirements, they don't fuck with them. Or
if they do fun with them, it's entertainment. He's a
side piece when they're looking for a man to marry
and inherit and breed with. He has to hit those

(02:02:09):
two metrics. Cookin ray ray out on the street corner.
They hit those two metrics, they get all the bitches.

Speaker 3 (02:02:17):
You can't. You can't stop them impregnating a woman. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 28 (02:02:22):
Oh wow, hold on, time Square, do not do not
get out of hand out.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Listen.

Speaker 11 (02:02:34):
We're not those type of blacks.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
We're not afraid of you. You speak on your white
people and what you go through.

Speaker 7 (02:02:40):
Don't say what the blacks go through because you're not
black and you don't know what.

Speaker 5 (02:02:43):
We go through.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
I respect, I'm pard Indian. We are black. The funk
wun't you man?

Speaker 41 (02:02:52):
Okay, that's that's fine. Okay, So however, and that's fine.

Speaker 42 (02:02:56):
I can speak from my own experience, and I can
also comment on the fact.

Speaker 11 (02:03:00):
That I have been what.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
The we having ability here with the women? Get out
the way, bro, man, if you.

Speaker 18 (02:03:12):
Got stock chips, drop me in a chat and let
us move on.

Speaker 3 (02:03:15):
Yeah, does the woman under face? Not really? Not really?
Maybe say something.

Speaker 7 (02:03:28):
Else, Carl, I'm gonna kick your ass out of the
goddamn Google you piece of ship milk.

Speaker 11 (02:03:33):
Dug hands, I said, he's afraid of the letters.

Speaker 43 (02:03:41):
I want to know how women suffering, Like like someone
in chat. Someone in chat asked, how do women suffer
from men? Like when women give up their careers, that's
a sacrifice. It's usually done for their husbands, hopefully because
that's a long term bind being social contract, So that counts.

(02:04:03):
That's suffering for your man?

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Is that the chat?

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
When men can birth men? I think the conversation will move.

Speaker 18 (02:04:11):
Forward women what man, I'm about sick of this ship?

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
I said, anything, What does that have to do with women?

Speaker 16 (02:04:27):
Can make tangible how women suffer?

Speaker 10 (02:04:32):
I mean unless men are birthing men, are we going
to ask how women are suffering.

Speaker 21 (02:04:39):
I mean, I'm sorry, I just got okay.

Speaker 43 (02:04:42):
So the person suffering like sacrifice can be suffering. Look
at Jada Pinkett Smith, she's.

Speaker 16 (02:04:50):
Talking like that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
She lives. She lives in the shadow of.

Speaker 4 (02:04:58):
Sweetheart.

Speaker 14 (02:04:59):
Sweetheart, how have you ever been outside the US.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
Karina, need to get off the stage.

Speaker 25 (02:05:10):
I told you ignore the white hands and the gold is.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
Going on. Stop letting crack and cocaine on my stage. Brokaya.

Speaker 43 (02:05:21):
Back to Jada Pinkett Smith, she suffered.

Speaker 18 (02:05:23):
I don't know we're gonna keep drug adds often. I
think should be the first to go.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
Okay. So, according according to Jada Pinkett Smith, bro, stop
centering yourself.

Speaker 24 (02:05:33):
Bro.

Speaker 41 (02:05:33):
Goddamn.

Speaker 43 (02:05:35):
So, according to Jada Pinkett Smith, she has sacrificed and
suffered enough under Will Smith's tyranny. Somehow, even though he
promoted her his entire career, she has been suffering. So
she took out her revenge on him. And we've all
seen that the last couple of years now.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
So, yes, hell, she suffering, Bro, She she isn't. I'm
being sarcastic.

Speaker 43 (02:05:55):
I'm literally being sarcastic. She's not suffering. She thinks it
suffering because she's not as famous as her husband is.
She wasn't willing to sacrifice her personal fame for the
success of her family. She doesn't want to do that.
She does not want to sacrifice if someone just off So,

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so Will Smith really should separate himself and his children?
So Will Smith really should separate himself and his children
away from Jada Pinkett Smith because she's not loyal, and
loyalty is the most important thing in a relationship.

Speaker 41 (02:06:32):
You don't know what about.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
I don't mean the rapper.

Speaker 43 (02:06:39):
Explaining how women treat everything as suffering.

Speaker 14 (02:06:42):
Oh my god, you want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (02:06:47):
Women treat.

Speaker 43 (02:06:53):
Modern women treat any and all suffering as their personal sacrifice,
even if you're suffering too, as the husband and the
money maker.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
They don't care.

Speaker 43 (02:07:02):
So you've got to be careful these women you shack
up with and have children with, because they have a
set of rules for men, and they do not follow
those rules for themselves.

Speaker 18 (02:07:11):
Are are y'all listening right now?

Speaker 39 (02:07:14):
Are y'all listening to this ship?

Speaker 11 (02:07:18):
Where's the part where I live?

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
Where's the part where I live?

Speaker 5 (02:07:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:07:28):
I'm wrong?

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
And then we got Jada picking. Wait a minute, what
is going on where you keep someone? Please shut.

Speaker 11 (02:07:39):
Shut up?

Speaker 10 (02:07:40):
Everybody shut up, you drunk drunk on the stage while
y'all keep in biting her up, bro, stop doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
Now we're switching this whole topic up. Now getting men
really shut everyone?

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
So y'all give the opportunity speaking wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
I don't know, this is nuts, bro, all right? Can
women really forgive?

Speaker 11 (02:08:01):
No?

Speaker 10 (02:08:02):
Can men really forgive a women's past? This is the
conversation we talk about. Now tap the fucking let's go crazy.
If you haven't joined the telegram, do that. If you
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(02:08:22):
Please keep it on track and stop inviting people that
are on cocaine on the stage on value. But come alone,
all right, get back to the conversation. Please, Can men
really forgive a women's past?

Speaker 3 (02:08:34):
Let's go absolutely not.

Speaker 16 (02:08:40):
Because her past?

Speaker 3 (02:08:42):
Who's the amber? If you know why? You know why?

Speaker 10 (02:08:47):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
Absolutely not? Because a woman past matters. Right, we're not
the same. My future matters. My past doesn't matter. As
a man. Where I'm going as a man.

Speaker 25 (02:08:57):
That's what matters?

Speaker 3 (02:08:59):
So what I hold a past against her? Absolutely?

Speaker 16 (02:09:04):
Why?

Speaker 4 (02:09:07):
Fred?

Speaker 24 (02:09:08):
Why is her past?

Speaker 3 (02:09:09):
Yo?

Speaker 5 (02:09:10):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
Fred? Fred?

Speaker 10 (02:09:11):
You want to know why a lot of y'all be
sticking y'all dicking anything, bro, and then wondering why y'all
could be wondering around with all these.

Speaker 3 (02:09:17):
Energies and all this ship y'all. I'm not fucking with
just anyone.

Speaker 24 (02:09:21):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (02:09:21):
You you said why because the track records are important? Bro,
I don't want to know who you think I will.
So imagine I pull up to the function me matt
ya right, nigga?

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
You think I want to hear that my man's before?

Speaker 11 (02:09:34):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
You niggask about nigga smashed that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:44):
Smash smash on would.

Speaker 5 (02:09:53):
Yeah stuff?

Speaker 19 (02:09:55):
Because you asked me why.

Speaker 6 (02:09:56):
Yeah, That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 3 (02:09:58):
I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (02:09:58):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:09:59):
At the end of the day, if you like her,
you like her, Bro, you ain't got no control over
who you like. You're gonna force your something not to
like the bitch because she she had a kid.

Speaker 10 (02:10:08):
And the talk was talking he was talking to Fred
thought o g Fred Mac and O G Fred was
having that conversation. Bro, shut up, that's the same Mac
and O G Fred that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
That's it.

Speaker 39 (02:10:22):
Why would her past matter?

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Well, what's going on right now with y'all, it's about now.

Speaker 24 (02:10:27):
You just said you're about the future. Were worried about
what's going on now?

Speaker 3 (02:10:30):
Why why dwell in the past?

Speaker 10 (02:10:33):
Like, come on, man, so you open to me, you
don't even you won't even know what if you ain't
even know she was a jump off back in the days,
and you fall in love with the chick.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
Then what you what you know won't hurt you? Come on, man, like,
yeah's a corner star.

Speaker 10 (02:10:51):
She could take it in the ask the Haitian Haitian,
I just said it was Mac and Og talking.

Speaker 11 (02:10:57):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
You won't go to the audience, bro, I just said
it was domb Bro.

Speaker 10 (02:11:00):
Come on, I like when you're in a conversation, you
funny and ship, but stop being funny right now when
they're talking. Bro, feel me, Mac and o G. That's
the only person I want to talk because he's they're
talking to each other.

Speaker 11 (02:11:09):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:11:10):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (02:11:11):
O G.

Speaker 44 (02:11:12):
Are you open to marrying APONO start.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
In my situation?

Speaker 11 (02:11:24):
No, because like I said, that's my boy.

Speaker 16 (02:11:29):
Past matters.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
That's what I'm saying. I was a single dude.

Speaker 39 (02:11:33):
If I was a single dude, whatever it is and whatever,
living a life.

Speaker 11 (02:11:36):
Take that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:38):
Possibly, Yeah, that's my clown ship right there? You bugging.

Speaker 11 (02:11:45):
Lying that's clown ship.

Speaker 16 (02:11:48):
Come on, that's you.

Speaker 3 (02:11:49):
So you're worried about somebody said possibly?

Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
Bro?

Speaker 11 (02:11:53):
Come on, man, men are sure of what they're gonna
fuck with it?

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
Not she's a point? Start or not? Bro? Or jump off?

Speaker 11 (02:11:59):
Bro?

Speaker 10 (02:11:59):
I'm well where you know what I'm saying? I know,
not be aware that they fucking jump off? I don't
get it, bro, How are you not aware she's not
a whole? You're gonna feel how loose it this nigga?

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
She's loose?

Speaker 11 (02:12:10):
What's gonna what happens?

Speaker 7 (02:12:12):
What happens when we're gonna start going through some ship,
you're gonna jump right back being a hole out there?

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Like what's gonna happen? Like right away? Actually, bro, now
you know the terms. First of all, your kid turn
the hole into a housewife. That's a fact.

Speaker 24 (02:12:23):
That's the rude. That's been for years.

Speaker 5 (02:12:27):
Again.

Speaker 10 (02:12:28):
So, but you said you would date the pornos star
Oji Fred You said I'm cool with that the star?

Speaker 11 (02:12:35):
Why not?

Speaker 10 (02:12:35):
No, you said I said wife her? You're going to
wife that you're bringing that back wife and that we're
talking about wife in it.

Speaker 11 (02:12:42):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (02:12:42):
Fuck the girlfriend just happens. Anybody can play with it.
I'm talking about wife in it. Bro, you're gonna wife that.
You said, come on, why not?

Speaker 16 (02:12:53):
What do you?

Speaker 11 (02:12:54):
What do I mean? Wife?

Speaker 16 (02:12:55):
And that wife is what us in her?

Speaker 43 (02:12:57):
That's your thing?

Speaker 11 (02:12:58):
What are you a wife?

Speaker 24 (02:12:59):
And that to take three or four chicks and wife.

Speaker 5 (02:13:01):
From off you?

Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
I'm asking you if you're gonna cuff that. You're trying
to back pedal?

Speaker 11 (02:13:10):
O O G.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
Fred is you gonna you you cuffing the pornal star?
You said, why not? Why not?

Speaker 24 (02:13:20):
That's what you're saying by fucking her. I'm cofing up.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
Really, I'm done, O G.

Speaker 6 (02:13:27):
I'm done even if but even if you made the
bitch your wife, I mean, fuck it like if you
like her like that, you know that's what it is, bro,
poner star of single Mother, whatever the fuck she she was?
What the fuck they got to do with anything? Man,
you're trying to ship. If anything, that pornal experience put

(02:13:47):
you in a better situation.

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
Now you can get you.

Speaker 6 (02:13:51):
Yeah, now you could get your ship off in her mouth?

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
Right?

Speaker 11 (02:14:00):
I didn't like did I hear did I just hear?

Speaker 5 (02:14:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:14:04):
He just equated a porner star to a fucking baby mother.
What type of conversations.

Speaker 5 (02:14:12):
Is done for the night.

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
He's gonna have to take the time, bro, crazy he said,
you're done, Bro, I'm done with you, nigga, just just
over with yo.

Speaker 37 (02:14:25):
The answer to the title, Uh, yeah, I don't really
be concerned on no woman's past.

Speaker 11 (02:14:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
I'm gonna be honest, all right, An I will tell
us why because I'm putting you in the O. G.
Fred box. Uh just put me in a box by myself.

Speaker 37 (02:14:44):
But uh, because the reality of it is, I'm not
getting the virgin, so she was something to somebody somewhere else,
So why would the funk I concerned myself with something
that don't really matter. I'm just being honest now, not

(02:15:05):
at the same time, at the same time to how
mac Uh phrased it or formed it, there's some limitations
to what I'm willing to deal and not deal with.
So to answer your question now, I'm not fucking no
porn start and it ain't because because these these square

(02:15:30):
bits just be worse than these wholes. So that's just
that's just being honest.

Speaker 10 (02:15:36):
I don't know animal, I think y'all. I think in
this conversation y'all taking the past ship too light? Bro,
Mac you agree, Yah, I think they're taking the past.
They're taking it too light. It's like, Yo, what happened
to the vetting process?

Speaker 11 (02:15:49):
My bro?

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
Do I really got to wake this ship up. It's like,
y'all niggas don't care, like and but what's going on?
Doctor B? Like I know this, what's going on? Yeah?
What happened to me? Where are you from? How where
did you grow up? Are you the right person for me?
Do you meditate? Like? Where's all this ship? Bro?

Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
Like?

Speaker 24 (02:16:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
It's like y'all missing a lot of peace. I don't
get about the past.

Speaker 10 (02:16:12):
Focused right now, na, because you know during conversation, ship
like that gonna come up or like what happened? I
mean different little stories and ship. If she's comfortable with you,
she's gonna express that. But it don't sound like y'all
what the hell? Yeah, so so so stat they don't know.

Speaker 28 (02:16:29):
They don't know she was invite them on the stage
and ship like that.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
I already got their pt.

Speaker 28 (02:16:33):
Also, they say something stupid power right in the kiss her.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
So so Stat I mean sink.

Speaker 37 (02:16:43):
Hell yeah, let me ask a better question before what
in terms of the past, what are we talking about here?

Speaker 10 (02:16:51):
Past relationships, past situations before she got.

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
To you, my brother?

Speaker 5 (02:16:56):
Oh nah, that's not what I do.

Speaker 37 (02:16:59):
I'm just being I don't be conversing fucking woman's past.

Speaker 3 (02:17:05):
With niggas.

Speaker 5 (02:17:05):
She fuck. I don't want to know all that ship.

Speaker 3 (02:17:07):
That's whole ship to me. Be honest with you, okay,
aha from animal? Who's coming to go ahead?

Speaker 11 (02:17:13):
Oh g, I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
Phrased it wrong with about your friends.

Speaker 5 (02:17:19):
It wrong. I meant.

Speaker 3 (02:17:22):
So reframe it, mister four hundred. Hey you remember Medina, bro?

Speaker 11 (02:17:28):
I think so no, no, no, no no no, Animal
remember Medina?

Speaker 5 (02:17:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (02:17:36):
You know her reputation, right yeah, your wife your h.

Speaker 5 (02:17:42):
Yeah. But that's that's that's not I.

Speaker 3 (02:17:49):
Hold on.

Speaker 18 (02:17:50):
But that woman's past superseds.

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
Wing. When way talking on that, bro, we over. I
don want know what this nigga is, so mabby, who
is this guy? I just said no, and you're telling
me listen, guys, you said yeah. No, guys, I never
I never said yes.

Speaker 5 (02:18:14):
I said no.

Speaker 37 (02:18:16):
I said because that woman's past supersedes her as a person.

Speaker 21 (02:18:22):
That's what I said, nobody said no, damn yes, all.

Speaker 10 (02:18:26):
Right, we're gonna have to check the replaces. Yeah, check
the take the replaces on animal because.

Speaker 3 (02:18:32):
I heard yo yo yo Mac and my bugget. I'm
not bugging twitched it up moment.

Speaker 5 (02:18:39):
I never it up.

Speaker 37 (02:18:40):
Man, heard somebody else talking animal Animal on you your animal?

Speaker 3 (02:18:46):
You know I rock with you? On you though, plays
is coming tomorrow, God bro as animal. Listen, I'm gonna
tell you what I heard, and you can say whatever
you want. He asked you. You said yes. Then was like, nigga,
I ain't never talking. He was getting for real. Did

(02:19:07):
you know?

Speaker 4 (02:19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 37 (02:19:11):
No from you want to stack? You want to clarify,
he asked me. He asked me, do I remember who
Modina is? I said, yes, that's where the yes came from.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
Okay, right, what are we talking about? I don't know, man,
I'm checking them replays. I got it. We're gonna have
to go back.

Speaker 5 (02:19:36):
Did he did?

Speaker 3 (02:19:37):
He not ask me two questions?

Speaker 44 (02:19:39):
He did?

Speaker 10 (02:19:40):
He did?

Speaker 5 (02:19:41):
Come on stack.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
Left Animal Animal kind of devol me up here?

Speaker 4 (02:19:47):
What is going on?

Speaker 5 (02:19:51):
True?

Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
Animal A big fat nigga. I appreciate that. Nah, Let's
get back to.

Speaker 10 (02:20:01):
This congo nigga Look, can men really forgive a woman's past?

Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
Hmm?

Speaker 10 (02:20:07):
I feel like they can't. Y'all hold on some shit.
I feel like certain men do hold on a shit
like damn bro like them like all right, so peep this.
This is where I'm coming from. If you a certain
type of caliber nigga, right, you're not gonna wanna be
fucking with another girl or woman that's been how tracker.
It's all over the place. Bro, I don't know why
y'all niggas acting like this. Ain't simple animal, That's the

(02:20:27):
shit I'm coming from. If you a certain type of nigga,
you hold yourself a certain type of way, Bro, You're
gonna want to be with a certain type of woman.
Bro that holds herself together. Bro, it has respect, you
feel me, Just like a certain type of caliber.

Speaker 12 (02:20:39):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:20:40):
You don't care about the past. Bro you want to
hold bro or whatever. You don't care about that shit.

Speaker 10 (02:20:44):
It's it's it's clipped well for me, bro, I'm not
rocking with it. But yeah, that's where I was coming from.

Speaker 5 (02:20:52):
Yeah, yo with me.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):

Speaker 26 (02:20:57):
Can you can you can a man forgive a woman past?
You know what I'm saying? You know how I see
it is, yo. Just let me get on my ship. Bro,
Damn I'm getting there, yo. So like how it feels
like he can.

Speaker 39 (02:21:19):
You know what I'm saying, I forgive, but at the
same time, you can't forget it. You know that's true.
That's true.

Speaker 11 (02:21:26):
So you know.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
Funny though, this room's in and in about ten seconds there.

Speaker 10 (02:21:36):
Yos this fine, We're done for the day. We don't
want to hear anymore share. We'll be back in the
A F one house and appreciate you big he Laylor
home te did our thing today. O G there South called.
Everybody that's been joining the rooms back to back. Make

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sure you join the four hundred house so that way
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Speaker 3 (02:22:04):
Yeah, you're going up tomorrow right, Am? I correct?

Speaker 11 (02:22:07):
I may?

Speaker 5 (02:22:07):
I may?

Speaker 10 (02:22:08):
Okay, okay, So make sure you're following Yay's house. Make
sure you follow him so that way you could be notified. Also,
join the telegrams so that way you guys can be
notified as well.

Speaker 3 (02:22:17):
Let me actually share the link so that way you
guys can get in there.

Speaker 10 (02:22:20):
Rosie will welcome you guys in and give you guys
a nice warm welcome, and there's also some different sections
inside of the telegram as well. I'll also be sharing
Yay's link as well in a chat, so you can
join the four hundred house as soon as you get
in that telegram. Yeah, we'll be having his telegram in there,
so I'll be back and forth. You guys can join
both so that way you can be a part of

(02:22:41):
these conversations. Appreciate you, guys. We'll be back in tomorrow.
Don't know what time Yeay is getting up. He gets
up before the roosters and before everyone, you know, everyone
wakes up. He's up on the road working like a
hard man. You'll be up by five four doing a room,
by six to thirty, doing a robust thirty. I'll see

(02:23:02):
you guys. I'll see you guys tomorrow. I have another
gender Wars topic, so we can come in here and
have some fun, play some music, and extend the podcast.
Anybody that's looking to become a guest, make sure you
send me a message. Anybody that wants to come on
a podcast show, send me a message. Anybody that needs
cryptocurrency passive income send me a message as well.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
I'll see you guys tomorrow

Speaker 10 (02:23:24):
Yah four hundred, Mac big Ye, Rosie, everybody that came
to appreciate

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