Gender Warz World Wide Episode 20- "Do Men and Woman Confuse Lust for Love?"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hit.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
He faked this.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
She heave a fake Shut.

Speaker 4 (00:03):
The fuck up, y'all, lee with the y'all not even.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Got cold and ran ship. She get the police and ship.
Nigga been on probations.

Speaker 5 (00:10):
As fucking I don't know when motherfuckers out fucking playing
him like that.

Speaker 6 (00:14):
Them are the savages out there.

Speaker 7 (00:16):
I'll touch another motherfucking talking shit about cheek.

Speaker 8 (00:19):
I fucking beating yass.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm not gonna playing.

Speaker 9 (00:22):
A more.

Speaker 8 (00:29):
So So.

Speaker 10 (00:32):
About to go up Rico. You know what it is.
You know what it is, Mac, top of the top.
We're about to go up right yo, Yeah, what do

(00:53):
you do?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What we're doing? Four honey side niggah.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
No fucking whole us.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
You won't get fun doing.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
So out what that car?

Speaker 10 (01:06):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Now that what's up?

Speaker 9 (01:08):
Don or?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
They're doing it on What's so so? You wasn't y'all know?

Speaker 10 (01:12):
Wah, y'all play on Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
God y'all some pro boys, God, y'all some pro point.
We got lots of toe bo so so and they
love him.

Speaker 11 (01:26):
Go bus Snow, We're gonna look go.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
We cannock, go no.

Speaker 10 (01:35):
Roll, what's no verdial, bullet bowls, poy got pants boy.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And my past for this.

Speaker 11 (01:41):
What's back down?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Ball? You won't pick up game, don't pick that I'm
playing for. No know what you was saying? No you
what sayings?

Speaker 9 (01:50):
Boy?

Speaker 10 (01:50):
Collect bands on the landlord, Yo, Yeah, top of the top,
we goo top of the top, four hundred side in
this mother fuck up.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Let me tell y'all something.

Speaker 10 (02:03):
If you don't see me in your motherfucking room, I
don't fucking shit.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You only gonna catch me a four hundred.

Speaker 10 (02:12):
Side I r L and you might catch me in
the barrio with them crazy mom. But if it's not,
if you're not on the side the home team, I
don't give a fuck. Don't reach out to me. Don't
don't don't it when shit goes down in here.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't want you understand. Don't call me bro. This
is the war floor. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:38):
So shouts to Rico, shouts to Max Shawsta. Yeah, and
we're gonna be building this room up throughout Sunday. But
do people love you or the benefit of you? I
feel like people like the benefits only right. I don't
care what you said. People will get with people for options.
Maybe also you know they got a motive, they got
an agenda. Right, But then you got some people that

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will love you for you. You know who you are, you know,
but it's hard to tell when you when you when
you when you got the bag?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Who's really there?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
HD?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Come up? Parents, Curtesy, come up.

Speaker 10 (03:11):
It's hard to tell, right, Maybe when you're doing something
great out here in the world, it could be kind
of difficult to be like, Yo.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Who's really who's really here for? You know? The solid shit.

Speaker 10 (03:24):
That's kind of what I want to talk about today
is do people love you or the benefit of you?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
But what you can do for them?

Speaker 10 (03:29):
Right, Let's get into this ship yay courtesy h Steve
makefly welcome you know, good morning, bro. Let's let's start
this conversation again. Happy Sunday man, how you feeling?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Copy of PA.

Speaker 12 (03:43):
I say it like this. A lot of people like
the benefit of you. And the best way you could
do that of to find that out is the people
that always be giving you a call. Don't call up,
you understand, like wait until wait, wait until, like you know,
see if they need you or or they just want
to call you just to check up to say like, hey,

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how you doing you understand, or start saying no to
people you understand because a lot of times people you know,
like to call you when they need you. Like, let's say,
for an example, they want to like borrow some money or.

Speaker 13 (04:19):
They need something.

Speaker 12 (04:20):
You understand, you call them. They quick the pick up
with the phone right, But when it's time to pay back,
you don't see that call. You don't see that phone
pick up.

Speaker 13 (04:29):
That's fast, you understand.

Speaker 12 (04:31):
Or when it comes to, like, you know, certain things,
when you start being unavailable to things, you start to see,
you know, people really care about you. And like a
lot of times when it comes to like, you know,
people dying and stuff like that, and people at funerals
and all that stuff, I feel like a lot of
fake shit because when the person one was alive, y'all
wasn't concerned. You just want to look good towards other people.

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So with that being said, I don't want to be
too long winded. A lot of times people just like
the benefits of you, not I really like you for
who you are. Because when you're struggling, you start to sing.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Your real friends are or or or AHD.

Speaker 10 (05:07):
When you start saying no, how many you know what
I mean? As soon as you laid the log down
to say no. Now we got in this shop when
you said yeah. How many times we don't say no?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Rico?

Speaker 10 (05:19):
How many times we had to tell people God, damn no, yo, woa?
How many times we said no? And then this ship
will backfire sometimes like damn, I thought you loved me
for me, man, when I say no, now's no love?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now was fuck me? Huh? Motherfucker?

Speaker 10 (05:35):
Hyena you hyena, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Now now it's fucked me.

Speaker 10 (05:43):
When I was all willing, it was all goods soon
as I put a no in the air, I'm telling you, bro,
people switch up. I'm telling you right now, understand Andre,
thank you for coming through HD whatever you.

Speaker 12 (05:54):
Know, what's funny? H what's another no likes a while
like a lot of women be having like issues when
that sex doll, the sex goal is the form are you?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Are you fucking kidding on you right now? Are you?
Are you? Are you trolling? Are you? What's your problem?
What's your problem?

Speaker 13 (06:18):
I'm not trolling a serious scenything because a lot of
women feel like they're put his power right and they
feel like the guy has to say yes to them
and everything. But when it's my God, say no, like
you know what I'm not dealing with you. I'm dealing
with someone else whatever. It's another chick or sex doll.
They started getting mad and everything. It's something to make
you think about. It's a little less kill.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So you're saying, so you're done, HD.

Speaker 10 (06:42):
Youre telling me a woman is getting mad over your
stupid rubber ducky bullshit motherfucker.

Speaker 14 (06:51):
I just told them, No, that's about it. Don't thing
got anything to do with a dog.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Gag at all.

Speaker 15 (07:04):
A rubber a rubber fucking duck over some real flesh.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Like it's like, why would you even bring that type
of exempt who?

Speaker 12 (07:12):
Man?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Is this? AHD? It has been too many years, man,
go get a real I think hold.

Speaker 13 (07:24):
On, hold on Trojan, hold.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
On, hold on silicon man.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
More likely it all depends on your status.

Speaker 15 (07:36):
Your status and if you of someone means whether it's
some type of power of money, more than likely they
doing the ship to benefit them, you know what I'm saying.
So it's hard to tell, like you know what I'm saying,
Like I be in the world of thinking, like, yo,
what the fuck you're around you for?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Just because I well, you know what I'm talking about. Stacks.

Speaker 15 (07:58):
You know what I'm saying, like I feel like I'm
trying to you know what I mean, I like and
I got a wall up and I cut motherfuckers off
some more to likely, there's always all depends on who
you are, what you got going on.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
People most likely going to.

Speaker 15 (08:10):
Use you for for for what you got, they really
don't give a shit about, like, you know, the really
human part of you.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
They give a shit about the status of I believe
that to be one hundred used.

Speaker 16 (08:22):
I used to be a pretty big doug in the
cannabis industry out here in California. And I'll tell you
what fucking you want to attract a bunch of fucking
flying monkeys, man, fucking let people know what the fuck
do you do for a living? And uh, you know
it's just gonna fucking happen. Uh, It's the unfortunate, fucking
truth of the matter. But you know, the one, the

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really big warning sign I fucking found that found out
with a lot of these fucking women, and it's manipulative tactics.
Can't blame them, they're taught at you know, you can
blame them for not seeing it and realizing it and
really degrading their own fucking worth and value by doing it.
But a woman, any woman that comes up to you
and says, well, I've.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Never been shown unconditional love, bitch.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Get the fuck away from me.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You don't even fucking you don't.

Speaker 16 (09:15):
I don't even want to fuck around with that kind
of bitch, dude, because all they're fucking really saying is
I've never had anybody had a completely open pocket for me,
because they're yeah, open pocket, open wallet. Yeah, yeah, fucking
you know. It's just all these girls thinks they can
be only fans, fucking girls, and they're gonna make a

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million because there's some fucking ugly ass bitch fucking making
money on only fans because some fucking thirsty ass motherfucker
doesn't realize that you can fucking look up all the
free porn you want in the world and he thinks
he's got a genuine connection to this only fans girl. Man,
it's fucking ruined in our society. It's ruining our fucking women.
It's fucking absolutely absurd and disgusting whole mentality.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Wow, it's the flying monkeys and you know, the abservedness.
I think Andrea was trying to come into. Yeah, Andre,
how do you feel about this topic, sister.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Thank you for okay, okay, right here, right now.

Speaker 10 (10:27):
People love the benefit of you. They don't love you
for you. It's rare. It got to be like a
family member, bro, or somebody that really really really respect.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah you grew up with.

Speaker 10 (10:37):
When you meet people on the journey, the ship be
fake love, bro, And they don't seen this ship a
hundred times, Like niggas don't been hanging with us, like
they'll hang with us, right and yeah, you've seen it.
Niggas are hang with us. Oh yeah, you're doing good.
You do you, you're the best at this. And then
you know niggas are be only hanging around just because

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of what you can do, maybe for them.

Speaker 15 (11:01):
A certain few, because it's a lot of a lot
of people aren't authentic, you know what I'm saying. So
when you get the authenticity from a person, you keep
them around it Like that's why walking with my team.
You already know what it is, man, four.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Hundred facts, Brouse, that's why you.

Speaker 14 (11:15):
Gotta fuck when niggas got that got motion already, and
you also got to fuck with niggas that was supporting
you through your struggle or whatever. That looks like because
they were always with genuine when you was working and
making your motion, it wasn't motion. It's still have started moving.
People don't want to support you when you're when you're stuck,
when you're putting it playing together and things of that nature.

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The real people, the ones that see you putting the
playing together even though you ain't make the motion yet.
The people were talking about right now are the people
that identify the motion and want to get close to
you because now they see you moving. Now when they
see you getting to that top, but they see you
moving to a direction that they want to be around
without putting it in the effort, that's when they're gonna start.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
Hitting you up.

Speaker 14 (11:56):
Oh yo, bro, it's good yo, y'all see you at
this ship? Yo yo bro, bro, next party, let me
know and the next thing you know, they never come around.
Why because they want you to give them a a
personal invitation to your development.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
No that say no, keep it.

Speaker 15 (12:15):
Moving, got a hit in the agenda to try to
take what you got going on. Understand how many don't
I don't build nations, bro. And somebody had come from
another part to like, yo, why you gotta be on
the you? Why they just can't be for the hook,
Like what nigga, Like what what? What resources have you
pumped into? These people will love you people, and so

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nine times out of ten they try to take what
you got going on.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Only didn't we think deft? But it's that this ship is.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
And the and then yeah, and how many niggas we
don't stop from doing like peoples will, Yo, nigga, we
don't stop niggas, bro from from even like we'll call it, we'll.

Speaker 17 (12:57):
See it from a mile away.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
You're not about to You're not about to be coming
over here just for the benefits, bro, And we don't
and we don't cut that ship short. So that's why
a lot of people like you know what I mean, y'all,
y'all could even look at the replace. You know what
I mean, gonna get smaller and smaller.

Speaker 14 (13:15):
I'm here real right because I with mac you and
I know this room is gonna start getting popping. It's
gonna be niggas that's gonna be coming. I'm still gonna
be making my own ship, but it's gonna be niggas
that's gonna be coming around. They're gonna start with y'all
try to ride the wave. I know y'all gonna beat
the game, but that's that's that's exactly what's gonna happen.
They're gonna see the motions and trying to get on

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that boat with y'all.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well, Nah, were locked in. But you're definitely right, though, bro,
definitely right. Yoh sacks about to about to do that's
the word? What? What's the word? What we mean? No?

Speaker 15 (13:57):
No, I thought you about to get basic, but you're
talking about earlier in the chat.

Speaker 10 (14:01):
Yeah, just in just in the background a little bit.
But I'll be able to you know what I mean.

Speaker 15 (14:05):
Finesse about give me a scout my big coin mining
and all that ship.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Now I got you, and keep the conversation.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
And if y'all are not into mining or bigcoin and
all of that, make sure y'all tapping with me, and
I'll make sure you get onboarded in the right way.
You'll have a crypto wallet and you'll have a dashboard.
You can go ahead and start making passive income. So
shout out to you, yeah for doing that early in
the morning. I'm about to start my ship too. But
do people love you or the benefit of you? Let's
keep this conversation rolling. Courtesy Steven Sharon, Chris HD, Andrea Sharon.

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Let's keep this rolling. Shout out to mac Rico. Y'all
know what it is, how y'all feeling about this conversation
so far while we start to build this up on
this Sunday top of the top.

Speaker 18 (14:50):
Good morning, y'all.

Speaker 19 (14:51):
I got my movie.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Place right now.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh you sound like when she gets her coffee, Andre.

Speaker 19 (14:56):
I mean this coffee smoothie smooth.

Speaker 18 (15:04):
It's not good for him in age, so not don
undrenk coffee. I don't need anything else in mad Age.
But no, I'm gonna turp it different because I believe
you should benefit from people that you love and they
should have benefit you from you. I think it's about balance,
like you shouldn't over given and they shouldn't be over giving.

(15:25):
Think So, yeah, I was that I can benefit said
that my husband was a smart man and so I
could learn a lot from him. I loved him because
he was smart, not because he had a lot of
money or anything like that. When we first met, he didn't.
He had nothing, but he was smart and he knew
how to get it. And he loved me because I
was I was a help, make a help, I really

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help I had my business mindset was good. He knew
that just from that, so we should benefit from one another.
And we loved each other because that we knew what
we would benefit from each other and build the things
that we wanted to build other. So, yeah, I think
it's a balance.

Speaker 19 (16:01):
You have to find a balance.

Speaker 18 (16:02):
So if you see that it's not balanced, that person
is not Someone says something about people returning calls and
things like that, they're.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Not returning to your calls.

Speaker 18 (16:10):
You'll see some of these things early on if they're
only around when it's good and they're not you know,
you know, saying Okay, well what's next. You know, when
our first business ended or failed, I was like, okay, baby,
what's next.

Speaker 9 (16:23):
Let's go what we're gonna do.

Speaker 18 (16:25):
So we benefited from each other, and that's the only
thing I can really relate it to friendship the same.
It's just not about male male relationships, but overall relationships
are still the same. Okay, that's all I got for
you this morning, Happy Sunday.

Speaker 16 (16:40):
You know, that's awfully fucking good human of you. Their sister,
and your husband's a lucky man.

Speaker 12 (16:46):
You know what's really fucked up during the pandemic, right,
the vaccinative versus the unvaccinated. Right, the people who is
un vaccinated really saw who really liked them for who
they are, for what they could benefit because a lot
of times you start to see people stop dealing with
the people who didn't get the job because you know,

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the ones who didn't get the job wasn't able to
get certain type of jobs.

Speaker 10 (17:13):
Und Oh, so you're saying that separated a lot of
people too, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

Speaker 12 (17:20):
You understand and you start to see how people behave
and their intentions and their spirits and all of that stuff.
So the pandemic really showed the truth on a lot
of people's character.

Speaker 20 (17:31):
And all that stuff.

Speaker 12 (17:32):
So something to make you think about I live.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I think it's terms and conditions.

Speaker 21 (17:37):
I think I think we as humans we have a
hard time grapping our heads around the conditionality around love.
It comes with conditions, and when those conditions change for me,
then so do the way I feel about you. It's
only a very few people in your life that's going
to love you with no conditions that no matter where
you at. You know, it's not about the money, but
the money. The money can cause them our conditions to change.

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So the condition has changed. So really, I don't I don't.
I don't see you in the same way. There's no
really need for me to be around you in some way.
When you love someone, you can have a critique of them,
criticism of them because they know that it's nothing. It's
nothing that I could give my mother that's gonna change
the way she sees me. There's nothing I can do,
there's nothing I can undo, there's nothing I can do

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to make the stop the way that she feels about me.
I could because she loves me. For me, It don't
have nothing to do with nothing else.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But I realize in reality that's not most people.

Speaker 21 (18:33):
There's terms and conditions to whatever we're talking about. The
moment that that that that you're not providing people with
what they need out of you, the moment that you
don't give them what they think and they.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Don't have to be money, it can be whatever that
may look like.

Speaker 21 (18:49):
Those those conditions are gonna change, and the way they
feel about you is gonna change. So to me, I
think when we have these conversations, a lot of people
want to take like a naive approach like, yeah, there's
a godly way to love. Everybody love you in that way.
But I'm talking about a deep rooted like love that
can't be moved. It's very few people in your life

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that you're gonna have that no matter what condition you're in,
that love don't change.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Now.

Speaker 21 (19:16):
It may have some ups and downs, it may you
may have some distance, you may have some hiccups, but
through even that, we love each other. Like you can
be angry at somebody and you will know like this
is just a temporary thing that's separating us. They don't
stop the love between us. We just got some issues
to work around. But some people that's not even the thing.

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Like the distance is just that distancing myself because the
conditionality from which I love you just has changed and
alter the way me and you. I can never see
you that way again. And like I said, sometimes sometimes
people do good or they change that and I'm gon
laying here circumstances like those people don't change, the people
around them change. Because now you're a motivation. You feel

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obligated to something that I have. You feel obligated to
something that I've earned, and and and in the moment
that I the instance where I tell you no, or
I make or I tell you like this or that.
You'll start to question the basis of our romantic relationship,
our friendship. Even when it comes to religious churches, people

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feel a way if you don't give a certain amount
of your tithes, if you don't do a certain thing,
if you don't if you don't people feel obligated to
a lot of things that other people have worked for,
u to other people's time.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
They space, and their energy.

Speaker 21 (20:37):
In the moment that you be like, nah, I'm good,
like I'm just doing this, they then interpret that as oh,
you discounting me. So then they begin to pull back
the love and all this, and so it is conditions
with most people when it comes to this situation.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Damn. Thank you for.

Speaker 10 (21:00):
Radosta, Angie for coming on the stage, Doctor Evil Hillary
courtesy Sharon right Shaw to you guys, you guys can
jump in the conversation. Steve, I'm a pass it to you.
But if you guys are just joining, do people love
you or the benefit of you? That's the conversation we're
talking about. Thank you for that submission. Rico, Steven over
to you's going man.

Speaker 16 (21:16):
Yeah, Rico, I think a better word for a descriptive
word for what you're trying to pervey is entitled to
your shit, and entitlement is a hell of a bit.
But my grandfather once told me, he said, Steven, look
at your right hand. I looked at my right hand.
How many fingers you got on that right hand? I said,

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I got five. He goes, now, how many friends you
got in your life? Like, you know, like fifty. He's like, now,
look at this kid. Out of them, out of them fifty,
only five of them are not looking to stab you
in the back. And if you've got five good friends
that you could trust not to stab you in your back,

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you're a lucky fucking man. Most people, like I think
they need fifty one hundred fucking like really close fucking friends.
But really, truly, if you got five close friends that
are fucking back to play when you're at the lowest, man,
you're a lucky motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
But I can deal with that. I can deal with that.

Speaker 21 (22:17):
Most people can deal with the fact your friends don't
like you anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
They betrayed you. That's an easy thing to deal with
because we expect that.

Speaker 21 (22:24):
But when it comes from a place of not just entitlement,
because I don't. I'm not gonna give you nothing when
it comes from the place someone that should love you unconditionally,
a brug or sister, a mom, you know, your religious foundation.
This is things that hurt because I shouldn't have to
give you anything, a woman that I love. It's not
that you don't love me anymore. It's the fact that

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the condition that you love has changed. And because this
has also in your life has become harder or your
situation has changed, you find the need that you're not
on easy street no more.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And this is the uncomfortability. You're no longer comfortable. So really,
you you you become.

Speaker 21 (23:02):
Discontent with me because what what changed other than our status.
So it's not that I love from a kid and
you let that situation change the way we filled out
each other. You let one of us becoming successful change that.
That's the part to do it.

Speaker 22 (23:23):
Love should never be transactional, period.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
But so why is it? Then? Love is always transactional?
I don't know why it is.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
Sometimes it is it's like that, it's like if y'all
ain't getting no no, nobody ain't gonna love them.

Speaker 22 (23:37):
If I love, if I love you and you love
me back, that's the only transaction that needs to happen. Love, loyalty, trust,
those are the things that you need to trade between
each other and and not compromise on because what becomes
established that I'm giving you this because you're giving me
x y Z, then there's now a power play within
the relationship that should never have been introduced. Period. Either

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equal or you shouldn't be with them.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think we don't want to get in a glass, Sharon.

Speaker 20 (24:10):
Okay, I agree Rico terms and conditions. You know when
you look at life period and I say this with
all honesty and not not rose colored glasses. This is
a mature woman that is speaking with you that know
about that in the condition that we are here and

(24:34):
does America, there's terms and condition politics, terms and condition
of politics, and it definitely falls in the relationship. Let
me tell you something, when we talking about genuine agape love,
there is still in terms whether we're religious or just
finding someone depending on how you grew up or the

(24:57):
surrounding the community that you grew up in, that were
terms and then that relationship where you live signing a
lease of being an owner, terms and conditions. This is life. Okay,
So no, you didn't have to be. I mean, it's life.
It's life. And if you think you're not living under

(25:17):
some term, you're you're in a delusionated state. How you
choose the love and the people that come. There are
people that will enter into your life. We understand for
a season and for a reason. There are people that's
going to execute life. You yourself, study, learn, know what
you are, want to tolerate what you are willing to

(25:40):
put up with. Uh, And that's a term okay. So
you can't get around it saying like okay, nobody we
got to be equal.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
No, we do not.

Speaker 20 (25:49):
We're not all created equal, even though even under the
Constitution every man and woman should be treated. So these
are terms in which we need to realize that you
either put up with and say okay. And whether or
not you're not, you know you some people take enough.
My parents taught me like, okay, when somebody come to

(26:12):
you with a situation that they're living in or they're
going through, listen first before you enter in your opinion,
because they just like want you to be there to
benefit from your knowledge. And if you do not have
the knowledge to pass on to them that you feel
like you can you know, like say, okay, but you
got to have some because I I have came to

(26:34):
the point in my life that I'm not gonna let
these people that are draining my energy, you know, with
their sometime pettiness that they call me up and you know, girl,
this man and come home girl. I look through his
phone and I'm like saying, I was having a great
day before you call, and so I just like, you know,
I look at the number and I was like, under,

(26:55):
you know, to protect my peace, I'm like, I'm not
going to answer because you know, this is gonna drain
my energy for one and uh delete whatever little happiness
for a minute there, just for a minute, because it'll
come back on me.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like, you know, I want peace right now.

Speaker 20 (27:12):
I was enjoying myself, whether or not it was going out,
grounding or whatever else. I'm knowledgeable of that, but it
took me time and mistakes and listening to I would
like say, now I listen to their problems and people
choose to come in your life something like I said

(27:32):
to just if you, if you're a builder up, if
you are a person of knowledge and you get what's
really going on really going on, Oh you're not You're
not gonna let you know, the nay series come and
just drain your energy or power, and we got it.
We got it, We're we're chosen to have it. And
that lack therein no no, can't come here no more.

(27:55):
You know that that door is closed. But yeah, as
kings and queens that we are the original teachers, we
are the power makers. We have done so much for
this country, and this country has not and then the
conditions that they constant sign into law whatever else to
tear us apart, to keep us not coming together and

(28:16):
unify ourselves so we can elevate like never before. All
that time has come to an end. And we, like
I say, they are not like us. So the US
is the ones that' said coming to a awareness about
yourself and saying okay, enough is enough.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I'm not gonna let.

Speaker 20 (28:33):
Continue to drain my energy, to drain my or steal
my ideal or whatever else that cause.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Alright, all right, all right, now do people love you
or the benefit of you? Thank you for that, miss Sharon.
It was just a little bit too long, but you
got to the point. You explained everything you need to explain.
People love the benefit of you? I remember getting in
the industry, right, Yeah, listen to this mic Niggas was

(29:02):
promising me to get me on BT when I first
got in the game, use me for all the social
media shit I can do, right Yeah, you think I
got on that ship.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
People like you for what you can do for them
and how you can build with you know what I'm saying.
So there's people out here that will use you for
you know, or maybe even be on a bigger status
than you and try to use you for what you
can do for them too. It can happen in a
business sing Yeah, I didn't seen this happen before. People

(29:34):
be promising you can do this for you if you
do this for me, and.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It don't happen.

Speaker 10 (29:39):
So be careful of that as well as people trying
to get one up on you in a business sense too.

Speaker 23 (29:44):
That's where you gotta be careful what you're doing stack
Like if you if you messed with somebody that can't
offer you anything or you know what I'm saying, like,
you know what's gonna let you have the same benefits,
like the same value and transaction. Most most likely he
needed to leave them alone because at this point they
become your protege and you become their mentor. But at

(30:06):
the same time they have a hitting the agenda.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
You get what I'm saying, And I've seen the hind
of the agenda, bro.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
It was just to get the social media shit to
where he needed to go to get recognized from who
he needed to get recordized from.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Feel me, bro.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
So I'm like, man, really genuine love from you know,
decide that it was coming from but it was genuine
coming from me.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Feel me. Feel what I'm saying, bro. So you just
got to watch out a.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Lot of people don't want that. A lot of people
don't want love.

Speaker 21 (30:37):
They just want you to tell them exactly what you
want for them so we can keep this business going.
I just want your respecting your lords. Everything outside of
that I can deal with on myself. This is what
I get from this. This is what you get from that,
and that's it. Let's just keep this line. Let's not
blur these lines at all. There's no feelings, there's no hate,
there's no answer, and Mossy's keep this business thing. Ain't
no home boy, ain't no nothing. This is what this

(31:00):
business model says that we're doing. This is what I get,
This is what you get. Relationships, whatever we know exactly.
This is clear cut. Don't try to start talking about
were cool, or we're friends or we none of that.
This is just drawing down right now, because that way
I can understand it.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That make it make sense.

Speaker 21 (31:15):
It makes more sense to me if I know this
is the sentence that I get from miss, this is.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
What you get or this is what I expect from
you to be doing for me.

Speaker 21 (31:21):
That's easier than me trying to be complicated, trying to
figure out why you're mistreating me or now you're angry
at me about something else.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Shit I've seen putting your time even though maybe I'm delusion, or.

Speaker 23 (31:36):
To say, okay, motherfucker got love for me on this
app right, Maybe maybe I'm a just a genuine person.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no, it's it
stops at a certain point. Well, don't even don't even
don't even say that. It's a certain level of love too.
Where where all right? You know what I mean?

Speaker 23 (31:55):
But I still peep, I still peep. But they were
doing there like it's so many rooms, there's so many clubs.
That was birth of me just sitting there trying to
be supportive and ship. I sit to myself, I said,
imagine if all those people were loyal and then have
a hitting an agenda, how how thick we would have been.
I don't stop what we would have been making money

(32:17):
and all that type of stuff like that. But now,
like people like the Grabs take run and do what
they want to do and like that. So, man, this
ship is real.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
Bro's donna thank you for coming through, Mike Sharon, Doctor
Evil courtesy Angie Canary just popped up. Ali got two
alleys on the stage today. Okay, yeah, but sure to
see you.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man. How y'all feeling about this topic? Man?

Speaker 10 (32:43):
Do people love you or the benefit of you? Happy
Sunday to y'all. I know we're on the wall floor
could turn up anytime though, it could go left.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I know it's the morning time, and y'all like you
feel me.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
But me and Yeah got the call of duty guns
on standby. Yeah, me and be and woot we got
the vest for y'all. Yeah, I mean we got on standby.
But right now we're trying to have the core room
and have a conversation right now. But let's get into this. Man,
do people love you or the benefit of you? This
is what we're expanding on right now. Thank you guys
for supporting the gender wars and the conversations we've been paying.

(33:17):
Room up and share the room up if you guys can,
we would appreciate that. Is there anybody else that wants
to jump into this conversation? Do people love you or
the benefit of you?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Will do? Popcorn staff for now? Somebody jumping? Let's go? Yeah,
let me get in.

Speaker 24 (33:35):
I think people love me for me because I don't
got enough money to benefit nobody or energy to benefit somebody.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
You hear himself, He.

Speaker 24 (33:44):
Really fugging me because like I can't do nothing for you,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I know people fucking
me stack you here because I can't be there for
you when you need me.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
So I know people really fucking me.

Speaker 24 (34:00):
Like you know, I don't have people calling me for
rides because I don't got no car and I don't
got the bags me for famous because I ain't got
no money for really, thank you?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Wow?

Speaker 10 (34:15):
Who else wants to jump in? Man Canary reason saying wow,
just like I don't got no money?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
What what?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
What kind of ship is this? Better stuff? There's too
many ways, man Canary there's too many ways to make bread. Bro.

Speaker 24 (34:29):
What you mean, Man, I got a job, but I'm saying,
like Nigga, I leave a chick. Chick many benefited nobody, right.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
I had to you know what I'm saying, Stacks.

Speaker 10 (34:45):
Would you say, Yeah, who who's talking?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Who is that? Yeah? My energy event? But what energy event?

Speaker 10 (34:56):
That's what you're saying. Yeah, that's what you're saying. People
can now, Yeah, say that one more time. It was
just sounded like you was a little echo pop.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Somebody had their phone their phone open too, and that
Mike I said, it's a lot of energy vampires out
here too, bro. Believe that that of course.

Speaker 10 (35:13):
Yeah, there's plenty of times you told me you know
stories and we'll be chopping it up. There's plenty of
people that like to suck and drain energy from you guys,
and you got to release from times. Sometimes you need
to break from certain people. You know what I'm saying,
Go do your thing or release that shit or know
how to balance it.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (35:32):
Like a lot of y'all are the vampires that were
speaking about. So yes, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah,
do people love you or the benefit of you. Let's
continue this conversation. Man, who else want to jump in
pop on stuff for now?

Speaker 12 (35:47):
You know what's one of the best movies that can
explain it is coming to America. You understand, because a
lot of times when you are you know, flashing, you
know you're flaunting or you know you short your accomplishments,
a lot of people want it. So instead of like

(36:09):
you know, doing that, you know, try to just to
do like what Pritt Hakeen did. Came to America looking
like a poor dude or looking dusty. Then you start
to see how people are. You understand. Sometimes they got
to play the fool, the fool, the fools to think
they fooling you. Alan, huh, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
People do benefit, man, people.

Speaker 10 (36:38):
I think people only benefit they love you, all right,
I can benefit from this person.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
All right, cool, I'm gonna show them love.

Speaker 10 (36:45):
But if they don't, soon as you test what I
was telling you, as soon as you take it off
the table, stunning Mike, Well, as soon as you take
it off the table, I'm telling you, soon as you
take the benefits off.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
The table, the move, the energy, the vibe switch.

Speaker 10 (36:59):
I'm telling you there's no way all the time as
soon as somebody repels or soon as somebody says no,
you cannot benefit from me, then that's when the issue occurs.
And that's what I see a lot and sometimes in
like you know, friendships, you know, relationships, stuff like that.
As soon as you guys laid the law down or
have some type of standard for yourself, then it's oh, man,

(37:19):
you know what I mean, then switch us up, right,
But yeah, let's continue this conversation. Who people love you
or the benefit of you ping the room up, share
a room up. Thank you guys for being here with
me this morning. How do you guys feeling about this conversation?

Speaker 22 (37:31):
When we first got on here, like four or five
years ago, I felt like I was constantly trying to
keep up with my own set standards, what what I
let people know about myself. So I felt like I
was always having to prove something. I was always having
to like literally like verify myself over and over again
on here. And so when chatter opened up, I went
over there and decided to do it differently. So didn't

(37:53):
put anything in my profile about who I am or
where I work or what I do, and just kind
of like left say that and literally people ask us
to start talking about how much money I've got. I've
never joined in. I'm like, I don't know, man, I
eat ramen noodle. I'm fine, and I've let it, let
it go. It just kept it that. I tell you what,
I've made some actual, real friendships. When people do go
over to my Lincoln or something, they're like, holy shit,
I had no idea. Yeah, you know, you never asked

(38:16):
and I never offered. And I tell you what, I think.
I feel like the friendships i have over there versus
the friendships I've made on here, I can maybe count
on one hand the people in five years I've made
here that I would actually like hang out with, you know,
like like go visit, like hang with and over there,
I can only maybe count five people I wouldn't hang
out with because those people have shown me that none

(38:36):
of that is relevant to why they are friends.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
With me, none of it.

Speaker 22 (38:40):
So yeah, and it hurts. It hurts because you know,
I work in casting, So it hurts when people who
you've been, you think you've been friends with for a while,
you think care about you, and then they want to
audition for something and they're really bad, and you know,
you gotta say I'm sorry, I man, the part went
to somebody else and then they're just like like you
personally slapped them in the face and said you suck.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 22 (39:02):
It gets Yeah, people people will discarde you prett damn quickly,
even though they've been hanging with you for years and
yours and years. As soon as you no longer have
the illusion of hope, they U yeah, they'll drop you.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Hillary.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
I like what you said there about the illusion of hope, right,
illusion of hope? How many people will still be with
you if they didn't see hoping you? That makes that
gives me a new question. How many people will really
stick by you if they didn't see the hope or
the potential in you. A lot of people that give up, bro,
A lot of people like I ain't signed up for
this ship and they gonna leave, Bro.

Speaker 3 (39:37):

Speaker 10 (39:38):
It gotta be real, true, genuine love for the person
to stay when you ain't got shipped to offer, when
you ain't got nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like,
it gotta be real, Chip, And I feel like that
shit rare, Bro. It only happened when you you know,
That's why I said family, people that you know, grew
up with you, right, Yeah, I was saying that, So
let's continue the conversation flows.

Speaker 25 (39:57):
Over, I would go ahead, Yeah, you give this scenario
and with a con so I can understand the context
of when you say hope.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
The illusion of hope. So the illusion of hope is
like this, Yeah, I want I want to stand, I
want to understand. Okay, Okay, to hump back in Hillary,
thank you for sure.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Okay.

Speaker 22 (40:16):
So now I've done to Stack for years and years,
all right, and I've wanted to work with him in
the past. We've talked about it on an hour and
stuff working together. And let's let's say I said, so Stack,
Stack knows, you know, if he comes to an event
or something with me, then he's gonna meet a lot
of people in the industry. It could benefit him.

Speaker 19 (40:32):
So about an event.

Speaker 22 (40:33):
He goes out there with me and turns out the
event is a bachelorad party. There's really nobody there from
the industry, and he realizes, oh shit, she can't help
me at all. Man, this is fucked up. I wasted
all this time. Blah blah blah. So the hope is
don't gone there. The hope the illusion of all of
it is Okay, well, maybe I can't get nothing out
of this. For you know, this is bullshit. He's probably
not gonna talk to me again now versus you know,

(40:54):
he said give you two scenarios. That's that's one scenario.
Another scenario would be you're a shit actor. You're really
bad now you stack fan you know. Uh so this
person just is not good. But they have this illusion
in their head that they deserve a role in a
movie because they're friends with me that uh, and then
I don't this recently happened, and uh, they've never auditioned.

(41:15):
They just think they should be in a movie. And
then they get irritated because I've cast these movies and
I've never put them in anything. What, never auditioned, No,
nothing like that. But they're they're aggravated to me because
I've never offered them something. I've got thousands of people
that are auditioned for each role, like what. So that's
that's the illusion, I hope when people get irritated and

(41:36):
aggravated mad at you because they put you at some
kind of an expectation on you and then and you
didn't meet up with what they had their imagination.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 25 (41:46):
That's why I was coming from the expectation of others, like, yeah,
I saw, I get what you're saying. Anybody anybody else
stubber knuckle fucker wanted to speak?

Speaker 12 (41:59):
Go ahead, uh you said, duncofucker with some respect to
Philopone Somemon's name, take their foot off or suffed up
your ass's person.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Calm down?

Speaker 10 (42:16):
What is going on?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Buddy? What is what the hell's wrong with you?

Speaker 10 (42:21):
Drink your coffee and really, I know what's the wool
floor and you guys are ready to throw some ons
at it.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
But rely have a nice fluffy pillow open here with
my friends. I don't want to yo.

Speaker 10 (42:33):
But yeah, how do you feel about those those still
seeing those scenarios you put together?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Broo? Like that's like it's valid, right, Yeah, it's valid.
It's real valid. So you know what I'm saying. And
that's that's the problem with people.

Speaker 25 (42:48):
They don't ask questions or they just think that these
people are gonna put them in certain places, and when
they don't, and you know, not intend stacks. It could
be someone testing you to see how you're going to
react to certain things, and then you fell the test
at the same time too, Like that is who I'll.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Be testing so many people.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, there's plenty of.

Speaker 10 (43:09):
How many times we threw the rope out there to
see if the rope of gold left.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
And right left the right time?

Speaker 23 (43:17):
My real like you know, I know like a lot
of people in the industry like music and stuff like that.
And I tested him out so bad, bro, And then
I said, there was one situation where my homeboy set
something up. I said, Joe support him. So he went
to someone that he knew in Universal and this is
the time when bb REXA was popping.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
So I set up a meeting with him and that person.
And this I mean, I understand that he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
At the same time. Bro, you could have used that
to your advantage.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
But then he fell risimbly. He started talking.

Speaker 25 (43:49):
He started talking the way that I told him that
he needed to work on the first time I seen him. Basically,
I got had a situation when I was getting a
grant right and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
It was getting like five hundred five hundred uh five hundred.

Speaker 23 (44:04):
Five hundred thousand, you feel, I'm saying for a grant writer,
And he came and drunk into the party, into the meeting.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
That's them what, bro. And he wasn't even inviting. My
other guy invited him because we were gonna push him. Bro.

Speaker 23 (44:19):
And then it was just so many tests that people fell,
and they think that they deserve the right to get
the end result.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
And that's the ship, the expectations that I heard with people. Mmmm.

Speaker 10 (44:29):
And that's the ship that you know Hillary was talking
about that losing the hope. I'm still stuck on that.
A lot of people give you the illusion, Yeah, we're
gonna do this for you, We're gonna do I told
you when I first got yo. Yeah, I couldn't believe
that I said this.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Did this nigga just bamboos on me like yo woo.
I didn't even realize until like a couple of weeks later. Bro,
I'm like, what's going on here? I mean, Robert, Robert
dark and fucker.

Speaker 12 (44:58):
I mean, I mean, people looking for an easy stack
and everything. But they realize they can't be lazy and everything.
That's when it's a problem, and you understand they're looking
for they're looking for easy bag, They're looking for easy
stack and don't feel like they don't have to do ship.
The favoritism, the nepotism and that shit don't even work
out for them. They realize they got to put in

(45:18):
some work and they don't even want to do that,
or they don't even have the qualifications or skills until
you even do it, that's usually the problem.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I'm losing the hope. I'm still on it. I'm gonna
be riding that out the whole room. Yeah damn.

Speaker 22 (45:33):
If you're my friend, like, honestly, you should want me
to seed. You shouldn't putt yourself in a position because
you should want me to succeed. If you're a friend,
you should be rooting for me, not sitting there being like,
how can I get a piece of this?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
That's a fact, a fact? Who else want to jump in?

Speaker 23 (45:48):
Let's continue to have something to offer, right to take something,
give me something.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Exactly, bite my hand off and not even give me nothing.
This is crazy. Cheose my hand off but not.

Speaker 10 (46:01):
I've seen it too many times, yo, you know it's
crazy in the in the industry, it's always like supposed
to be barter y'all know that, right, Like yeah, yeah,
you know, you know, I know you got something going on,
you got motion, you got this ship going on. We're
supposed to help each other right all day, but a
lot of people will just see what y'all got and

(46:23):
take it from you. If you're not at the table,
you're on the menu all the time. I tell a
lot of people this ship in the game. If you're
not at the table, you're on the menu. A lot
of niggas gonna be coming to y'all table to see
what they can get get get, but never seeing what
they can dish out.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Stop letting niggas at your table.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
Just anybody, though. It's a lot of people that are
just let me pull up what you do. You didn't
even buy the napkins of the lemonade, nigga. You just
see the table popping. Now you wanna come back. That's
what I'm trying to say. It's always that's.

Speaker 26 (46:50):
Why we have you and I have this type of relationship,
and we have the trade and barter means because we
have certain resources. That's that's beneficial for both of us.
And if you can't see see that way is no
other way to really And of course we have a
strain be out currency and stuff like that, But for
the most part, it's like you have a you have
a product.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I got the people. Let's link it together, let's eat
you know what I'm saying. So for people like that, yeah,
that's a bad rule.

Speaker 27 (47:18):
Yeah, I just want to know why all these people
came in and they saynamore the type of the top,
whoased you?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Who raised you? Yeah?

Speaker 27 (47:28):
Top of the top, y'all. But I think it's a misnomer, right,
I want to dispel this misnomer that relationships, whether that
be platonic or romantic, they're all transactional. The only time
that it's a discrepancy is when it's not an equilibrium,
but even exchange. But every in any relationship it's transactional.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
True, don't say that set fire to a lot of people.

Speaker 12 (47:59):
I just know.

Speaker 28 (48:02):
If I'm loving you and I show you love, isn't
love energy exchange just like Hillary just said earlier, and
return for my love is you're given the same love
and change.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
It's not I give you my love and I give
you all this type of other stuff. No, because at
the end of the day, we know it's a service.
If it's a service, then what it's transactional?

Speaker 9 (48:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Yeah, good morning, fellas. I think I don't think this
is all expectations at top of the top. I think
this is all expectations because who am I expecting this?
You know this unlimited love from right, because it's in
categories right, it's friendships, relationships, partnerships, et cetera, acquaintances. You

(48:52):
got to put them all in a level of expectation.
And the reason I said is because I don't know
about y'all, but you know, put it one in a chat.
If you still check up and call on all your
exes and their families because you still love them, I'm
not expecting any ones because in that Yeah, because in

(49:12):
that moment you felt that way. That moment is done
because it's a cost benefit of analysis. Now flip it
to flip the question the other way. Put a list
of all the people. Count how many people in your
life that you have zero benefit from but you just
love them? Right now, understand outs, I want you to

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exclude from that list family, actual family. That list is
going to be real small because there's a lot of people.
You just said the vultures, right, the vampires. A lot
of people you probably had love for it that I
was a homie, which really didn't have any benefit for
you or vice versa. They wasn't a different stage of
day life. They want to smoke black and miles and
go hang out. You want to go and study and

(49:54):
build your life. Yeah a moment. You probably loved them
when you grew up in elementary school or when he
was on the block at that stage at that time.
Now you've evolved, right, So what happened all the love?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Then?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Oh it's gone. It's removed because the transaction changed. There's
no cost benefit, right, just like when we had the
conversation the other day. Hey, so all this love is
defined in dandy, but the divorce is a man's worst nightmare, right,
because she loved you till death. Do his part until
the end. Hey, I want to take him for everything
he got. What happened to the love?

Speaker 14 (50:27):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Because there was no benefit from both sides anymore. Now
you became an op, you know what I'm saying. So
I think this shit is more expectation versus versus if
it's really gonna happen. I don't expect nobody outside my
mother and you know, certain close family family members like
my grandmother, maybe you know, my older brother or something
like that, to have that unlimited Oh yeah, I just

(50:50):
fuck with you just because I focus with you.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
And I love you.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
That's that stuff really don't exist, and I don't. I
don't expect it to, because again, there has to be
a cost benefit. Now some people lean into the benefit
and only that be couseplay it is love. It's a
different conversation. But more often than now, we're not fucking
with nobody in our contact list, our call logue. If
there's not nothing mutual, like hey, you scratch your back,

(51:12):
you scratch you mine. Because you're in this level. I'm
at this level. We have things we could build on.
Even a building conversation is a benefit, right, because I
could bounce an idea off you. You got the bandwidth
to be like, oh, I think you should think about
it like this, that's just what it is.

Speaker 10 (51:28):
YO might appreciate that. Yeah, well, I want to also
say that Vaughn is a toxic hyena. That's all I
wanted to say. I just wanted to say that you
are a toxic one. You are checking on your exes
and it's not acceptable. Okay, a red flag, A red

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flag for vin.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Okay, Now, if I'm checking all my exes, that means
I'm still gonna give them the illusion of hope.

Speaker 10 (52:01):
The same ship we were just talking about with Miss Hillary,
with Miss Hillary, and Vaughn just came into it. You
are selling the illusion of hope Vaughn and I'm and
I don't like that at all. Yes, you walk, If
you are checking on them, that means the door may

(52:23):
be still open to get in.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (52:27):
It's it's it's it's very it's very confusing. For the
next party that gets involved with Vaughn to deal. I
would I would hate this for the next party. I
would hate this.

Speaker 29 (52:39):
Go von, so I check in just to see how
they're doing, see how life is treating them, see what
they got.

Speaker 19 (52:46):
You know, miss you, I love you.

Speaker 29 (52:51):
I still have feelings for you, none of that stuff.

Speaker 30 (52:54):
Oh how you doing?

Speaker 31 (52:56):
Cool?

Speaker 8 (52:57):
Great?

Speaker 17 (52:57):
Great, good to see you.

Speaker 9 (52:58):
Good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
And give me a scenario. Yo, yeah, hold on, let's
stay right. Yeah fix you sound far bro scenario. I
want to hear this scenario. You walk in the room,
your man on the phone cracking jokes, laughing. All right, look,
it was good, it was good.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
It was good.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Catching up you hit you later?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
All right? Who was that?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh that was just Jennifer. Jennifer who my ex?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
So what I told you about.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
How would you how would you you when you walk
in the room after How would you feel about that?
VN VN VN.

Speaker 17 (53:38):
She he's a.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Toxic Okay, yo, yo, We're done. We don't live in
the same planet. We don't. We don't live in the
It sounded on clubhouse Vaughn. This is what I'm saying.
This what yo, yo, yo yo?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Blow up? Higgle level two, higgle level two. So VN
so now it don't you don't mind it? Okay?

Speaker 9 (53:58):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
You at the hair salon. He just dropped you off.
I'm sorry you have the nail spot. He just dropped
you off. You're about to go have some dinner or
lunch or whatever for the day, right Sunday fun day.
He's about thirty minutes late. Dan, where you at, babe,
I'm on the way. He's like, okay, I thought you
would happen to four o'clock or whatever time. He's gonna
pick you up. You know, Jennifer had a flat tie.
Just had to drop her off at the tire Plus
real quick. I picked her up. It was thirty minutes

(54:20):
out of the way. When he comes, he can get you.
It's the same one. He cracking jokes, but you got
no issue with.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
How you feeling.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
See how you escalated it.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no no,
no answer the question because there's a purpose. Well, don't
take this valid reason why I ask. There's a valid
reason why I escalated it.

Speaker 22 (54:38):
Okay, So that would not be okay, But.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Checking on them on the phone would be it don't
make no sense.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
But Mike, exactly, this is where it's selected different thing.
It's not because here's the thing. If I'm calling and
checking up and were cracking jokes, we cool, right, It's
never gonna happen again, which possibly could mean let's let's
bring it down a level. Instead of us talking on
the phone cracking jokes, we texting each other back and
forth while I'm in the car with you and you driving.

(55:06):
That's that that that opens the door for that. But
then remember I love you, right, I'm still checking on
you now. I'm gonna come pick you up because you're
in an emergency cracking jokes and you can't help me.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Could it be a difference, can you hear me ahead?

Speaker 23 (55:23):
Difference in her mind because at this point that you
put her the other girls knees before her, before her
that's all.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Listen, that's what I'm trying to tell you. It's all
cap It sounds good until the scenario, until the scenarios
not scenarios.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Hold on the.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Scenarios, rock the scenario. Once you once you carry the one,
the math don't work no more. Once you carry that one,
the math don't work no more. It's supposed to be
just simple division. But but but once you carry that one,
it's like, oh, hold on, nah, I ain't cool with that. Well,
hold on, we were just cracking joke.

Speaker 12 (55:55):
That is the homie.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
If they're in an emergency. If they're in an emergency,
why can't help the home you find?

Speaker 29 (56:05):
You stated, people need to understand the difference between acquaintances
and friends and et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 32 (56:11):
So you also have to.

Speaker 29 (56:13):
Understand the difference between I'm calling to check up on
you once a year versus I'm dropping everything and neglecting
my people.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Well, you're not being neglected, because you're still being picked up.
You just put it. You're just being put a second
priority in that moment. It's it is the same because
here's the thing. We're expecting it to just be a
one cent of a year thing. Okay, cool. We talk
on the phone once a year, but we made text
once once every other week. And I'm not saying we
pursue each other. It's just a random you cross my mind.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
HM.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
As a human, I'm not gonna always be honest with
Vaughan about why she crossed my mind.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
I remember back in the day when we used to
do X y Z. I bet Houston's right now. I
thought about you. Guess what they changed on the menu?
Oh Dan, what happened? Oh they took off X y Z. Okay, cool,
that's what's up. You're cool. You have you not nowhere
near around me. You at your mom's house. I'm at
the bar at Houston's chilling doing this, doing this texting
back and forth. What that does is continue the bridge.

(57:08):
The bridge is not burnt. That continues the bridge of
conversation because you can't control who initiates the contact. I'm
your man. Yeah, of course everything is cool. You know,
you could quote unquote trust me. You don't know what
she's initiating. Maybe she texting and said, hey, how y'all
doing over there? Oh we good? What's going on? Coming
off as a home girl. But really, the waters get murky.
So this is the reason why me me personally, I

(57:30):
believe you, Vonne. But I'm saying as a whole, I
think it's all cap because it's only good until the
scenario is not a benefit to you. Because again, it's
not that he's doing it intentional. It's not like he's
saving her every day. It's literally an emergency. And in
that moment they just happened to be talking that same
morning on the phone, key King, when you walked in, Hey, hey,
where y'all going? We going to the park? What she

(57:51):
happens to be round the street from the park at
some place and she caught a tire. Hey I got
x y Z. I know you know what I'm saying.
It's inconvenient, but oh yeah, nowhere's I got you. I
just got pick up the wife after and there's no
there's no nothing, no funny business. But because I want
to be a good man, I'm gonna keep it one
hundred percent of thousand blood are all with you and
tell you the truth because you cool with it.

Speaker 18 (58:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
This is where it becomes an issue.

Speaker 29 (58:15):
Take a simple constant.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
It ain't simple. It's never seen if I used to
make you and I used to make you organstic. There's
nothing simple about it.

Speaker 11 (58:27):
Wake it up, Wake it up.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
I got Hillary, I got Hillary coming through, and then
I'm gonna get miss Andre. Hold On, I heard Hillary,
and I'm gonna give miss Andrey.

Speaker 22 (58:36):
Comes down to Vaughan. Would you put any of those
guys above your man? If your man says he I
need you to be somewhere and one of those other
dudes said, hey, I need you to be over here,
who are you gonna go with your man? Right? Is
there any any one of those people that you would
have to lie to here? And here's the baseline of it.
This is how why I've been married for sixteen years.
This is why a relationship works. We always act as

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if act as if I'm gonna know everything that happened,
as if I'm in the room with you. If there
is anything you have to lie about to me, or
anything you feel like you can't tell me all of that,
you are in the wrong fucking place. Get yourself out
right now. So is there anything in any these situations
that your man couldn't be sitting right next to you
during exactly there you go.

Speaker 19 (59:21):
I totally.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
I think that the guys tend to struggle with the
fact that, like.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Well, we don't struggle trust me, y'all, trust me.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Guys tend to struggle with inside joke. I think the
guys tend to struggle with the idea that like, once
the door closes, it stays closed. But also the fact
of the matter is like, at one point I did
care about this person. At one point, I love this
person deeply. So that doesn't mean that the door for

(59:58):
us to rekindle the relatelationship is still open.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
It just means, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Want to know that you're doing okay, right, So like,
don't it's not because because because that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:12):
Means you got your feelings involved with it. I don't
want to hear that ship you're talking about. I want
to see how you miss Andrews. Stop coming up here
with that bullshit you're talking about. You're telling me hold on,
hold on. I know you can say it, but that
sounds like you got your feelings still involved with the
whole motherfucking thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Or I just want to know or just want to
see I just want to know how you're doing that
shit sounds stupid.

Speaker 10 (01:00:33):
No, No, I'm just I'm keeping it one hundred with you. No,
I'm keeping it real. So long as you say something crazy,
I'm gonna call it out. You are. I just want
to know if you're okay. I don't give a fuck.
Once you break up with someone, release all ties.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
What are you doing? But I just want to know.
I just want to know if you're okay. Did you
make it home? Are you that ship?

Speaker 22 (01:00:56):
It's fat.

Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
Im that's what we really hope.

Speaker 19 (01:01:02):
So, lady, what's going?

Speaker 8 (01:01:04):
R Kelly literally wrote a song about that's the worst reference.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
That's the word.

Speaker 33 (01:01:11):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
You believe, hold on, you believe everything that you said.
Hold on, listen, listen you said you said that, you
said specifically, the door is not open. I believe you,
and you believe that as well yourself. But you have
no idea what the opposite party believes. What they tell
you and what they believe is two different things. That's

(01:01:35):
that's my only contention. But go ahead, I feel you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
But in even in that regard, the opposite party can
feel the exact same way.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
They can feel the exact same way they.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Can, but you have no idea if it is the truth.
That's my only point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And they and I got you, I got you, But
but it doesn't matter right, because if you've closed the
door to recant, you close the door to the possible
ability of re killing. It doesn't matter what I believes, because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I'd rather hear from Breezy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Act. It's men pursue right, as men we pursue.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
So we've we.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Then, what it is to be a homeboy like that's
never had intimate relationships with you for a certain amount
of time until the day comes when you cry and
fall on the stick. Right, We understand those situations exist.
We also understand that, yes, we were together for some time,
we actually made love with each other, We had very intimate,
private things going on. Then all of a sudden after
our breakup. You want me to believe that, oh, she's

(01:02:40):
only reaching out to me because X y Z, my
mama's gonna say it's Cap, my sister's gonna say it's Cap.
All the people that you used to know in my
life forgot. But yeah, she still wants you. Yeah, she
still wants something with you, even though in your mind
you've laid the table down and said there's no there's
no quote unquote possibility of it. All it really takes
is time and space. The right time at the right

(01:03:01):
space hubby pisses you off, you storm out the house angry.
I just happened to text you, or you happen to
bump into me at the bar by the beach, et cetera,
et cetera. Happens everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
But it also doesn't happen every day, if you get
my point. So the fact that the fact of the
matter is both parties can let go entirely in the
in regards to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Men will never let go of the previous box.

Speaker 12 (01:03:28):
They do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
They do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Only if it's fire. Mic. It gotta be real.

Speaker 8 (01:03:36):
I'm only speaking.

Speaker 22 (01:03:38):
Look, I'm forty six years old right now.

Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
When you are talking, both y'all are talking at the
same time, trying to I'm sorry, miss.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Andrew, I don't agree, okay, but continue and then up.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
Yeah, I've seen it happen because I lived that. I've
lived that experience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Like the guy that I thought that I was gonna
marry back in grad school, right like, I sent him
a message and I was like, you know what, I'm
sorry for all the things that I did. I'm sorry
for all the bad blocks and I don't want us.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
To that's just unacceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Total that you are correct, I'm not speaking one second, Lena,
you are correct. I'm not even disagreeing with that. But again,
this is where you know, between men and women we
have a different thought process because you're talking from a
point of possibility. All of that is possible, but the probability, unfortunately,
is not in your favor. Because any man who used

(01:04:36):
to call this person mind not always just dating you
for a little bit. You used to be mine. You
could even go back to high school. If you're still
messaging me and we rekindle in my thought process will
be like hmm, as most men like, damn, maybe I
could still clap that. Okay, cool, let's see what's going on.
He may not even pursue it. It'll just be a thing.
My point is, as men, we understand and overstand that, Yeah,

(01:04:58):
ain't no man just trying to be a homie like that,
especially if he knows exactly what you look like when
you don't have clothes on. Those relations are not just oh,
we went to school and we shared math class together.
That's different than hey, I was this was mine at
one point. The mindsets are different for women. Yeah, y'all, possibly,
maybe y'all could do that, But for you to expect
the new third party, you're with a man what hopefully

(01:05:21):
has a backbone to be okay with that, and I
know the opposite way, y'all definitely not okay with it.
Y'all gonna say what ya want this app There's no
woman I've been with that I'm currently with, was with
before whatever, whether it's a conversation on the phone, bumping
to them at the mall, would ever be okay with
me even saying anything about said X I could even
follow or like a photo. It's up and you want

(01:05:42):
me to believe that. Oh it's cool if she just
called me and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Check on me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Come on, But Mike, you know that we are not
all again, possibility versus probability, Lena, I know that it's possible.
You're not gonna die in the airplane clash. The probability
is very low, but it is possible, right again, It's
just it's just you gotta weigh it out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
But it's also possible that unicorns could exist. But I
dismiss it because the idea is so muul.

Speaker 10 (01:06:08):
Breezy can hold on, hold Breezy, come in, jump in
and need one person at a time, and then we're
gonna do a quick reseat go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Reason fifteen.

Speaker 19 (01:06:16):
This ain't been sounding good. Okay, you're gonna lie lie better, Okay,
but hell no, hell no.

Speaker 17 (01:06:26):
Because ain't no checking in.

Speaker 19 (01:06:31):
What the fuck y'all checking in about y'all do? Y'all
they dead?

Speaker 34 (01:06:35):
Remember they fucked you over? Remember fuck them? Remember uh
what the fuck we checked they did?

Speaker 19 (01:06:43):
And they're good there?

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
What is we doing?

Speaker 32 (01:06:46):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
I mean.

Speaker 31 (01:06:48):
My thing is I respect both people with opinions. Like
I will say, at the end of the day, y'all
can be cool. Y'all can be cordial without a third,
but the foods have to be gone, like the feelings,
like like my boy Big Mic said, if I seen
you get like and you're telling me that you could
just I was random, like like the very two days ago, like, yo,

(01:07:11):
what's up with you checking on you?

Speaker 9 (01:07:12):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
And i'mna still think I can crack that.

Speaker 31 (01:07:15):
But if like time passed and like years past, and
man it's like you like what I'm checking on the
third at the end of the day, it could be
like you know what, we can be cool.

Speaker 11 (01:07:24):
It can be cordial, man, but if like like a
fresh breakup, no, we can't be cool.

Speaker 19 (01:07:32):
I mean that's literally mean, I don't give a fuck.
If it's ten years, no, like.

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
We can't be cool, we can't be nothing. But if
it's fresh, why do.

Speaker 19 (01:07:41):
Y'all need to be cool? I was cool, y'all, not cool,
because that's not how the thing is.

Speaker 29 (01:07:46):
Though, everybody doesn't have these horrible dating or relationship experiences. Well,
oh my god, I hate this person's guts. We broke
up and I hate their exit. Not I don't have
that experience. That's not how I live my life. Oh
if that's how you y'all live, then perfect, you know, definitely,
don't you know, engage with those people. But I've not
had breakups where it was like, I'm never speaking to

(01:08:07):
this person again and I hope they die. That's never
been my excuse, Yo.

Speaker 10 (01:08:11):
Vaughn, real quick, hold up, breezy, breezy, real quick, real quick, breezy, breezy, muted, muted,
mulded church. I feel where Vaughn's coming from, too, You
feel me. I feel where she's coming from. But once
you get into your next situation, Vaughn, people gonna be
talking about boundaries and principles and the respect of a
shit too. You feel me, y'all?

Speaker 17 (01:08:30):
Feel you on on?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Yeah, I wanna check on on.

Speaker 10 (01:08:32):
I want to y'all didn't have these better Nah, respect
the person you with or respect the new person that comes.
But if you don't have any new people coming in
and out, then I feel it, like fuck it, you
know what I'm saying. But if there's somebody that's there
that's standing on business, they gonna think that's a red flag.
I don't care what no one's talking about. It's gonna
be like Yo, it's the principle of it. It's the
respect of it. It's the boundaries part. But a lot

(01:08:52):
of motherfuckers don't got boundaries. They think everything's a slipping
slattery slow. So that's why I'll be like, uh, what
the fuck is going on? Like you can that person
would be cool with you doing that. I mean, he's
a sucker to meeting you, a suck as nigga, punk nigga. Now,
I'm just now I feel you. He sounded like a
punk nigga. That's gonna let you do whatever you want
to do, and he's gonna be like, Okay, you could
call your nigga sound like a goofy. I'm just keeping

(01:09:14):
the honey with you, you know me, I keep it
real with a with a big g nigga that nigga said,
he's a big goofy. He's like, I'm not I'm not
letting that ship rock.

Speaker 23 (01:09:28):
Different caliber of people out here, bro, Like, you can't
just chop it. We can't expect everybody to be like us, bro,
like from a different breed.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 23 (01:09:35):
I'm saying it's it's certain type of people, it's certain
communities that accept certain things within each other. So I
wouldn't really call him that unless he comes from the
same environment that we came from. My chick one, at
one point, I had a my ex an X I
was away from like elementary and stuff like the long
term likes went for a while, but that we're still

(01:09:55):
cool to this day.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
She I told, like, you know, I'm like, you have
to go. You have to suck it up, because that
was way back in the day. My people.

Speaker 23 (01:10:02):
I was inconsiderate. She felt some type of way, but
I also kind of a used it at the same
time too. So everybody ain't gonna Everybody ain't gonna be
with that ship, especially if they don't. If you put
in an environment where they can't even trust you, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 31 (01:10:15):
That's the fact, Like I believe, like I believe, like
I believe that like here, like I said, like if
Tom passed on your man and like you checking on
me and ship and we and we and we start vibing,
we start we can be we could be keeping cordial
to me like if like if if I got a
girl right and like time passed on the third man

(01:10:36):
and my ex, like, yo, week, what's up? What you've
been up to with that the third and man, it's
like number one, are you hitting me up for your man?
Number two? It's like, uh, I got I got a shorty,
now your man. I'm gonna let my shorty know what's
going on. Man, I'm like no, but she cool. Peoples though,
like like and my shorty can If my shorty can

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respect it, then it's like all right, cool, we can vibe.
But if you don't respect it, then you gotta go.

Speaker 19 (01:11:03):
One second.

Speaker 34 (01:11:06):
And ladies, I can't believe I did this because I
walked into some bs. What the fuck is you talking about?
It don't have to be a bad breakup or anything,
but it's over. What the fuck is you checking up
on somebody for like these niggas can't check up on me?
What the fuck I look like letting some somebody that
I used to date check up on me?

Speaker 19 (01:11:27):
Why he got my new number? What the heck is
we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
What it is?

Speaker 8 (01:11:34):
Would you imagine?

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Hold? Hold hold on? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Let it on, stack? You're trying to tell me a
woman that used to sit on my face? You okay
with me talking to you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Spreading all over the place.

Speaker 10 (01:11:53):
I gotta I gotta do the it's not walking your territory,
and you gotta leave what listen?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Hold on, Hold on second, y'all had a whole war,
Hold on, hold on a second. You had a whole
war on this app where women would justify and why
they dislike the fact that they see their man in
the likes of some random chick you don't know, in
the comments of some chick you don't know. Oh but
his ex is okay though, come on, man, y'all got
like Mike, like if.

Speaker 22 (01:12:22):
He never wants to know again, at least we know
that he has bad with them as well as the good,
but the bad but it's just right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
But also if you notice, like the sex wasn't enough
to keep you guys together, right.

Speaker 8 (01:12:33):
The fact that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Some reinforcements up. Yeah, step, but did it?

Speaker 8 (01:12:44):
It didn't stop whatever it was, Okay, we get it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
We get it. We just don't agree.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
That's it.

Speaker 22 (01:12:50):
Men are different from women.

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
That's all there is. It's a maturity thing.

Speaker 19 (01:12:54):
I think it's you're right.

Speaker 22 (01:12:56):
And also the time that passes between relationships. Like my ex,
my ex is my son's godfather. He's also I walked
in his wedding. We got our our family is going
back and his dad comes and visits us, and my
husband loves and things that they're great.

Speaker 19 (01:13:10):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 22 (01:13:10):
We dated in high school. I'm forty six years old.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
The sons, God, what, Yeah, let's just move on.

Speaker 22 (01:13:17):
Twenty years twenty years after we broke up, because but
we broke up because we were not sexually attracted to
each other. There was no attraction there. Really, we were
just kind of dating because we were really we were cool,
and so we kind of came to that conclusion. And
then we've been friends ever since.

Speaker 19 (01:13:29):
My husband has no problem with that guy.

Speaker 22 (01:13:30):
Now, my ex that I had, you know, a real
rocky relationship, but real passion relationship with I dare the
motherfucker come on the property, you know, and no fucking
way let him anywhere around. So in time and the
in the relationship itself matters, like like what the relationship
was about, Like me and Joe, there was never really
nothing there. We dated, but it wasn't really nothing ever
and it never there's no chance of it ever being anything.

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He's Joe, you know, that's my boy. But an X
that I was passionate with that, you know, you know,
I said up feelings in my heart about you know, look, man,
this ended wrong. Kind of want to talk about it.

Speaker 19 (01:14:00):
No, that person's.

Speaker 8 (01:14:03):
Or any kind of anything like that in my life.

Speaker 19 (01:14:06):
But no, this is my question.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Yeah, tell us y'all going for it? Yes, because.

Speaker 22 (01:14:12):
To be your child God, because I had cancer, I
was dying and his family was there for us. They
helped us cover some bills and stuff. If it not
for him that my child would not have been born.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
So that's why that's fine. You don't got to explain.
We don't got to go down that path. That's her,
that's her. Hillary.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
You ain't got to explain ship to these black folks.

Speaker 10 (01:14:38):
Let's continue this ship, big bag Breezy, Let's listen, Let's
continue this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Let's switch it up a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:14:43):
Man, listen, if y'all are just joining, thank you for
gender Wars, for joining this ship. The podcast was actually
going insane, ping the room up and share the room up.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
New topic.

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
Though, most relationships last out of routine or real love.
I want everybody to switch everything up right now, Let's
switch it up. Appreciate everybody for joining Matt Yay, Hillary,
Mike h D the rubber ductterfucker sharing doctor Evo. Yeah, nigga,
you know where we're at. Four hundred side right, Most

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relationships last out of room team for real love. Let's continue.
Let's switch this ship up. Who's jumping in next? Popcorn style?

Speaker 11 (01:15:19):
I'm an hop on it real quick, and I think
I think, what.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
The did you so? What you can come on?

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Now? You know that ship was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Stick thinking us just just straight this diabolical with it.
No no diddy, no diddy.

Speaker 31 (01:15:47):
But like I said, I think it's the routine, like
you go through that ship they in the day out,
like you don't be liking the bitch like man, this bitch, But.

Speaker 11 (01:15:58):
The routine, it don't be love.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
I think it's a combination of both because like some
of the routines that you have can be the thing
that strengthens your love, like, for example, Wednesday night date nights.
You know, that becomes a routine, like every Wednesday we
go out and we just reconnect somehow or I don't know,
like whatever activities you like to do together, or even

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just the little thing, even just the basic things like
cleaning the house together, those are all routine, mundane shit.

Speaker 8 (01:16:30):
But if you look at it in a different way.

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
But do you think we like that though we don't
like that ship?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Who doesn't like that ship?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Like? We we like it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
We like it, but don't ever, everybody's different. Not all
men are the exact same, and not all women are
the exact same.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
But that's why it's not good to that Lida. That's
trust the reason why you shouldn't be talking to your
ex because he randomly texts you on a Wednesday and
be like, hey, remember what today was for us?

Speaker 10 (01:16:55):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Listen, this ship triggered me.

Speaker 17 (01:16:56):
I'm sorry about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
We built this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
We I guess where you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
But like the routines can be like a thing that
also like strengthens and fortifies the love that you have,
And that is the problem.

Speaker 8 (01:17:12):
I think it can be a combination. I think it's
a combination of both.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
So what happens when the love has faded? Does routine
help that? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
If I think it's the commitment, right, Like we know
that relations and rather emotions are like the tide.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
It comes in and it goes out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
So when you're in those moments where the love is
like kind of moving out, if you will just focus
on the commitments that you guys made to each other,
it's really just I mean, it's not simple, but it's simple.

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
But it's not easy, all.

Speaker 31 (01:17:45):
Right, cockkeep it peak cock, keep it real, man Like,
at the end of the day, after a while, like
I said, we've walked its routine because when you first start,
like in that honeymoon fave, like that should be cute
and all that, but we all know we're gonna be Nigga,
we just be trying, like, you know, man like man like,
she's sexy as fuck, Like I'm trying to see what
that be about, like real ship. After a while, that

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shit get boring. It's like, yo, I don't feel like
doing this ship. Maybe you're just boring, big bag. Let's
really wake up the real issue.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Nigga.

Speaker 31 (01:18:16):
May like I don't like hearing this, I don't feel
like hearing this bitch like I would keep it a pig,
like that should be routine, Like I'm just gonna do
this ship just so she can shut the fuck up.

Speaker 9 (01:18:29):
It sounds like it sounds like you don't like women
to be honest with you, Like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Who said that?

Speaker 12 (01:18:34):
Hold up?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Who said he does?

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
What I mean by that?

Speaker 32 (01:18:41):
What I mean by that is just to say, like
the example you gave was too early for me to like,
not like this woman, like for me to be like routine,
Like routine don't usually sit in there early.

Speaker 9 (01:18:53):
You talking about honeymoon stag, honeymoon stage.

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
I said, I said to be.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
I got you, let me feel nobody cut you off.
Mike Tyson, Just wait a minute.

Speaker 32 (01:19:03):
Again, you said at the beginning, the beginning is just
me thinking she's sexy and I want to fuck her
and all this shit. Honeymoon stage usually falls off between
six and eight months. By then, the whole I just
think she's sexy is out the window. There's more to
her that I've discovered.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
I got you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
You don't need to come me off again. There's more
to her that I've discovered.

Speaker 32 (01:19:24):
The routine or not even a routine at that point.
At that point, it's still doing different shit. You're still
learning one another. Routine hasn't even set in yet to
be for real, for real, you're still discovering new shit.
So if you're already bored at that point, then you
didn't really like the person. You just like the things
y'all did, and or you just like certain elements about

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the person but not the person overall. You never actually
grew to know the person in fucking six months. So
I don't think you really like the women you fuck.
You just like fucking women, which is fine, just lead.

Speaker 11 (01:19:59):
But if you heard what I said. I said in
the beginning and the honeymoon phase.

Speaker 31 (01:20:05):
You know, when y'all first google out and everything else,
it'd be cool, it'd be fun. It'd be like you'd
be like you be you do be wanting to You'd
be like, damn you. I'm like, I'm feeling this girl.
I want to see what she about. I want to
see that that the third I want to see a B,
C and D. Basically, long story short, you want to
crack long story short. I'm just being a nigga about it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:24):
It's not the honeymoon stage and then and then.

Speaker 31 (01:20:26):
After a while, after the time moved on, it's like, yo,
I don't like dealing with this bitch. I'm just gonna
do it just because so it is routine.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
What's your longest relationship that's not routine? I got ten years,
So ten years that got you? So when did your
honeymoon stage fall apart?

Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
After the five years? Shit got born at the five.

Speaker 32 (01:20:47):
So you was just trying to crack for five fucking
years based off the submission.

Speaker 31 (01:20:51):
No, I was cracking within the five within the within
the five years, I was cracked years after the year
five years. That hit got boring.

Speaker 32 (01:21:03):
Within what got boring, what got submission is that while
you're trying to crack, is the honeymoon stage, you're already cracking.
You're fucking people are fucking that that's already been fulfilled.
So after that, then clearly there's a stage where you're
learning the person and finding things you like and dislike
about them, finding things that y'all have in common and separate.

(01:21:25):
Within those honeymoon stages, right, you're learning the person. If
all you were worried about was just fucking during the
honeymoon stage, then again, I don't think you like the
women you fuck, you just like fucking women, and that
is fine. But leave it at that. Don't make it
seem like it's something else. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:21:46):
Okay, you can't comprehend what I said.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
I understand you, right, do a Wesley got a point,
But big bad, big bad?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
What actually what got born?

Speaker 10 (01:21:55):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
What got boring?

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
Having sex with your if I?

Speaker 31 (01:21:58):
If I I'm gonna keep it, keep it the buck,
like it's like after the after the five years, like
you already know this girl, like you already know that
the third and you'd be like yo, like this is real, nigga.
Ship Like you're like, damn, I don't like doing this ship,
Like but but you're gonna do it anyway. Because but
I'm asking where did that?

Speaker 9 (01:22:16):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Where does that emotion come from? Man?

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
I don't feel like doing this ship no more? Is
it because y'all spent so much years together? Or is
it because you this bitch brings out to the point
where you boor it now or like what is it?

Speaker 11 (01:22:26):
Yeah, after a while, after the year's past, after his time.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
In like after it's like real, so it's the time
basically then it was just put so much time.

Speaker 11 (01:22:33):
Together, after this time, after his time man, and you
like know this girl like the back of your hand.
You be like, man this man, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Well.

Speaker 31 (01:22:44):
She's too predictable now, okay, Like like we niggas, like
we can't deny that, yore, like we know how we are,
Like you can't say like, oh no, like I don't
believe in that ship like it's not it's not love,
it's new tane because like, yo, you know this girl,
you know, like what trigger and the third ABT and
D like you just to keep her quiet?

Speaker 11 (01:23:05):
You canna like you know what, fuck it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
You know what you considered using boredom as a way
to learn something like you can use it as like
a tool, a way to develop and strengthen your relationship. Okay,
well we've been doing this and it's been this, that
and the third. Why don't we try something new, Like
y'all could go learn something together. Y'all can get there,
explore something together, like like.

Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
But if you don't but if you don't like her,
none of those options would be available to him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
That I believe you don't like him almost.

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
That's what I said. He don't like them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
He just liked fucking that's why.

Speaker 32 (01:23:45):
Everything he said about the honeymoon stage was about sex,
not about the person. It's just about sex. He believes that,
like they just an object. And I look, I'm not
against his opinion, right because that's his opinion. But again,
you can't formulate the argument of this routine being an
issue because the routine and I do agree with miss
Andrey sometimes I do agree, but I agree now the

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routine is something that y'all have in common, that y'all
like outside of just sex.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
It doesn't, it's other things.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
It's more I got you, it's.

Speaker 32 (01:24:16):
More of an intimacy thing where you're not getting intimacy
on the quote unquote level outside of sex from your women.
You're just getting pussy, which is fine if that's what
you desire, and you'll hold on to a chick for
ten years of just getting pussy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
But at that point, it's just convenience.

Speaker 9 (01:24:35):
It's not you wanna be here.

Speaker 32 (01:24:37):
It's just you want to fuck her because she's convenient,
which again is fine if that's your problem.

Speaker 31 (01:24:42):
Okay, even again, even outside of sex, let's just take
sex out of it. Let's just say you fucking with
a girl right for about a good five to ten years,
five to ten years. You mean outside of sex, You
mean Y did this at first? Again, it was cute
at first, you actually like real ship, You actually liked her,

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like you liked who she was, you liked her vibe.
Like everything was cool at first. You mean then down
the line, it's like you know what it's it becomes
a headache, like damn, like yo, Like, I.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Want a new bitch, this bitch born, Like, I need
to be honest, bro, just be honest, this bitch boring, bro, Bro,
I need a new bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
I mean, I didn't exhausted all this bitch already brodoxed
all the possibilities of this bitch already need a new bitch,
be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
But that's not.

Speaker 8 (01:25:36):
There are infinite opportunities. There are infinite things that you
can learn.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Listens and real quick, real.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Quick, real quick, you need a new bitch.

Speaker 19 (01:25:47):
That's basically what he's saying. He's the old one broke
and he wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
He needs a bitch that he actually really wants and
statue bro, bro, bro, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I keep talking.

Speaker 9 (01:26:02):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (01:26:03):
See y'all make me lose what I'm gonna say when
y'all just keep yelling like that, Bro, stop yelling please
over each other? Do most relationships last out a routine
or real love? This is what we're talking about. Let's
get back to the convo. Vaughn real quick? Are you
are you available? You just had a crazy ass idea
that I want to talk about. Are you are you available?

(01:26:24):
To talk about it? Real quick with me with the.

Speaker 8 (01:26:30):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
So, Vin Vaughn had an.

Speaker 10 (01:26:32):
Idea where the people could go on the warld floor
and we could do events and y'all could vote on
who's gonna be the winner of that debate.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Understand.

Speaker 10 (01:26:41):
So we'll have a we'll have a topic up and
we'll have two people that we've you know, selected, and
they can go on the world floor and war it
out and everybody will be able to vote with a poll.

Speaker 12 (01:26:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
I'll start doing that probably like next week or something.

Speaker 10 (01:26:54):
Right, And like I said from the articles, you guys
can request songs and also support the podcast on the
back end as well, Right, So I'll have those links
up when we go up into the war floor and
then also when we're on the gender war flow too.
So thank you for that, Von, that was a good
ass idea you just put in the group chat that's
gonna be fucking insane. So anybody that's interested in, you know,

(01:27:15):
debating back and forth or versus, we'll do like a
versus type of thing, this person versus this person, and
we'll put together the event powered by the four hundred side,
you understand. So that's the shit we're gonna do in
the ward floor. So you let me know if you're interested,
dm me, hit me up, hit up, yeah, hit up
our telegrams or whatever, and then we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Get you in the queue for a battle on the
war floor. It's gonna be crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:27:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:27:39):
Make sure y'all hit my telegram link so we can
all link up four hundred warld floor like this.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
These my people is man. When we open up rooms,
y'all know what's going on.

Speaker 23 (01:27:50):
And if y'all wants extra income, squad, squad, it means
that means et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Hit the bruins up.

Speaker 16 (01:27:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
We try to empower people too as much as we do.
These appreciate you, yay. Now let's get back to this conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:28:03):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:28:03):
Do people do most relationships last out of routine or
real love?

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Let's get back to this. I'm gonna leave the floor
open for a little while.

Speaker 10 (01:28:11):
I'll be sharing some resources at the top, like the
telegram for gender wars, h Yay's telegram, the podcast episodes,
and how you guys can support the whole movement. Let's
continue this conversation. Who else wants to jump in before
the topic changes? You know, I get boarded this shit quick.
But let's jump back into this conversation. I just wanted
to do a quick reset.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Well, what's up? Let's voice it up. I'm gonna pass
it to Mike.

Speaker 9 (01:28:33):
Mike, you di no, he's not, but I what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
What's going on top the top?

Speaker 27 (01:28:37):
Do you agree that today most men are in love
while women are inconvenience?

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Well, one thousand percent. One thousand percent, man, I mean,
you know, you got to look about it. You gotta
think about it like this. The way that men that
we're raised, we're raised to be, you know, the hunters,
the gatherers.

Speaker 17 (01:28:52):
We're the ones that we provide.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
You know, we want to you know, and we want
to be able to do that for a women. I mean,
that's what we're taught to do. Women are the risks.
So women are much more trained to you know, what
are you doing for them, and what benefit does it
make for them if they are to you know, capitulate
to you whatever whatever. So, you know, but because of
modern feminism and because of you know, independence and all
of this type of stuff, thank god. You know, men,

(01:29:17):
you know, I mean we are you know, we've always
you know, had love for women and we wanted to
be in love. But for women, you know, it's everything
is out of convenience of what you can do for them.
Women don't really love men or really don't have any real,
you know, feelings for men. Today it's a different world.

Speaker 34 (01:29:35):
Yeah, so I wanted to go ahead and speak to
the topic. Huh, you can love somebody, but love is
a waxing and waning feeling like it's more so about
your duty. So it's going to be out a routine
because the routine is we get our asses up and
we go to work, or we clean up, or we

(01:29:57):
do this. You start doing any of these things, I'm
not gonna hold you. What's going on with you?

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Are you sick?

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
So I'm wrong with you.

Speaker 34 (01:30:05):
Because we entered into this underneath the premise that I'm
gonna be.

Speaker 19 (01:30:11):
Doing this and you're gonna do this unless we get sick.

Speaker 34 (01:30:14):
Or lest something unless something happens.

Speaker 19 (01:30:17):
So it's the routine.

Speaker 8 (01:30:19):
I think.

Speaker 34 (01:30:20):
Because you switch up that routine, you switch up your
patterns on me, we probably not gonna last that long.
It is what are you doing?

Speaker 19 (01:30:29):
So that's what I think.

Speaker 10 (01:30:35):
Thank you for that, Breezy. Do most relationships last out
a routine or real love? Are you comfortable in this shit?
Are you just comfortable with the routine because a lot
of people are comfortable in their lifestyle. Well yeah, Hillary
Stunning Vonughn like yo, people will be real comfortable in
the situation that they're in. So they're like, you know what,
I'm gonna just stay in this routine. Fuck it, I

(01:30:56):
don't even love the person. I'm gonna stay in this
shit just because this is all I know. You know,
you got some people settling too, so let's open up
the conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
What's up, somebody.

Speaker 19 (01:31:07):
You're not about to break this routine.

Speaker 22 (01:31:10):
I used to own an novelty store, and let me
tell you some the people who come in there and
are willing to explore with each other, to to push
the boundaries and limits together. I saw them. No, no, no,

(01:31:36):
And let me say you, if you are at a
point where you're feeling in some kind of way about
you know, she's not as sexy as she used to be,
or maybe y'all are just tired and you just don't
feel like it. And then some girls are Alfy was
like hey, and she's all young and perky, and ship
be like hey, but you know what, she's gonna be
willing to do this stuff with you that your wife
is gonna be able to do with you because your
wife trust you and it isn't worried about a video

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pop it up somewhere or you're going to tell all
your friends or that your wife is there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
She's hitting on something, she's hitting on.

Speaker 22 (01:32:06):
So if you're if you're bored, it's on you. You
need to introduce new ship. And new ship doesn't mean
a new person, it means changed it up.

Speaker 17 (01:32:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
You have to hold on.

Speaker 10 (01:32:15):
Hold on, Hillary got you from here. Hold on, Yeah,
she got a point. Some of y'all do gotta spice
it up, like y'all be with doing the same ship,
same positions, same fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Step your yeah, weak ass pumps? What's going on?

Speaker 26 (01:32:34):
Gee?

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
It's a lot of y'all are week.

Speaker 10 (01:32:36):
You gotta switch it up a little bit, man, listen.
When you that guy, you're gonna be able to switch
it up anytime. Bro, she ain't gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Tired of you.

Speaker 10 (01:32:46):
But big bag sounds like a fucking wild hyena tied
hyena on the loose, and you need to find peace.
Why it's not one woman enough? Why you're getting keep it.

Speaker 31 (01:33:02):
I'm gonna keep it a gun stacked if like yo,
at the end of the day, it's like I didn't
I didn't did it before. I didn't have the whole
household thing, you mean, the family thing and everything else.
Don't get me wrong, I don't knock it. I mean
it's definitely fun, it's definitely cute.

Speaker 11 (01:33:16):
While why last you got to make it last?

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
My brother?

Speaker 11 (01:33:21):
Like real quick, let me think quick.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
I don't want to let you because you've been talking
the whole time.

Speaker 11 (01:33:28):
Bro, I would just quiet. You just can't make But.

Speaker 10 (01:33:31):
I'm just saying you you it don't sound like you
want that ship to last. You're going into it with
the last you got the wilet last mindset, Nigga, what
do you.

Speaker 11 (01:33:39):
Mean that's the only that's the only thing you've.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Heard the whole my whole had no more. I want
to switch it.

Speaker 31 (01:33:45):
Up at the end of at the end of the day,
like I said, if the family thing is cool, like
I'm gonna lie I like it.

Speaker 11 (01:33:52):
You man, it was fun? Why why I laught it
was cool?

Speaker 14 (01:33:55):
You mean?

Speaker 31 (01:33:55):
But and they to me personally because I've been there
and I've done that. It be came a routine at
the end of the day, like all right, yeah we
did that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
We did that.

Speaker 11 (01:34:05):
I mean we fight it up and everything else, But
that too is still a routine.

Speaker 19 (01:34:09):
What do you get a new family?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Get a new bitch? Yo, this is great?

Speaker 11 (01:34:16):
Can hit that were.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Routines with her?

Speaker 11 (01:34:20):
If you hold big get a new bitch, it becomes
like different than it's over.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
You don't go here, bro, you got it? You got it,
chip bro, Yeah you got You gotta be quiet.

Speaker 17 (01:34:32):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Catch them tickets? The tickets cashed? That in everybody in
the room. It's annoying me.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
So yeah, Yo, po can you come through? Man, you
sound like you were speaking some logical sense. I don't
want to hear from big Bag anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
You hear, Poe? What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:34:52):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
How you feel about the topic? Man? About or anything
you heard so far? You wren't jumping.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
I mean I both agree with the ladies, especially was
she at what Hillary said?

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Man, you gotta spice it up. Really yeah. I don't
believe in the ideal of uh wallet lasts. I don't
believe or not no me either, Bro.

Speaker 10 (01:35:17):
When you got the wallet last mindset, ain't nothing. You
ain't gonna be able to build, no dynasty or no empire.
Wilet last, Nigga, this shiit supposed to be longevity. Fuck
a you're talking about. That's why I said some people
are doomed. Some people in the community be doomed as fuck,
like nigga. Yay, that's another brother.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
We got to help out. You heard, Bro, We got
help that brother out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Bros.

Speaker 12 (01:35:38):
Far going?

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Man's you see I'm talking about? If YA say you
far gone, it's far gone. Bro, I we can't help you, Bro.
That is nuts.

Speaker 10 (01:35:50):
The wallet last mindset is why a lot of shit
doesn't last for you, guys, while a lot of relationships
don't last, while a lot of families don't last because
you're in it wilet l as.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
You're supposed to be like this is forever.

Speaker 10 (01:36:02):
This is the supposed to have that mindset though, But
I wised the abundonance mindset at man, what's going on now.

Speaker 22 (01:36:07):
You are exactly right on that.

Speaker 19 (01:36:09):
Look here.

Speaker 22 (01:36:09):
If you if you are looking over somebody's shoulder, you're
in the wrong relationship. If you if somebody walks in
the room and you look away from your girl or
your guy to check out who's over their shoulder. Or
if you're always waiting for the next best thing to
come through and you're hoping or betting on that, get
the fuck out of the relationship. You're doing a service
to you and to her or him. Don't be with
somebody if you have to look over their shoulder to

(01:36:30):
see what else is coming next.

Speaker 19 (01:36:32):
That's not who you need to be with.

Speaker 22 (01:36:33):
Wait until you got the person that you're supposed to
be with and then give them everything.

Speaker 17 (01:36:37):
Yeah, I think that that's naive.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
And I think that at the end of the day,
you know, somebody like myself, And again I understand where
everybody's coming from. But you know what's better than pussy
new pussy?

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
So how long you've been.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
And and you know, at the end of the day,
for me, you know, I like I like new things,
you know what I mean. I like new new clothes,
I like new cars, I like new trips. You know,
that's kind of the way that I live. So I mean,
you know, I don't you know, here's the thing, you know,
spicing it up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
I do agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
I think that that's important, and I think it's important
for both the men and the woman that spice it up.
What happens is that because of the routine and you know,
women get comfortable. So you know, they're not really wearing
you know, Frederick's or you know, they're not really wearing
you know, Victoria's secrets, and they're not really wearing you know, these.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Different you know.

Speaker 12 (01:37:24):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
You know, they start, you know, wearing these really horrible
look at moo moos, and you know they start, you know,
wearing just these little T shirts and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
They're not really.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
You know, it just it just looks really you know,
sad and cheap.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
And then you know they're not really being as nasty
and and you know, and you know, just doing all
of this stuff. You know, more mouth sauce. We need
more mouth sauce. No, you know, it's like nineties head.
It just becomes a whole catastrophe. And so you know,
like uh, you know, and then you know, you know,
if they get mad at you it's not like, Okay,
we have an argument and everything is all good now

(01:37:59):
the woman is withholding sex. There's a lot of those
situations that's going on out here. And so you know,
now I'm going to work and you know, the woman
I'm supposed to be, you know, getting satisfied from she's
not doing her job.

Speaker 17 (01:38:09):
She's not on her job, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
So you know, what does a guy to do?

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
And so I think the best thing, man is is
I mean, you know, you got to, you know, keep
your options open.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
You got to be able to have some you know,
different things, you know, at your disposal. And I think
that that's the best way to do it.

Speaker 22 (01:38:24):
I think you can. I'm comcap on that because dude, honestly,
what girl have you ever seen in the Moo moo
off of TV or something like that. In your budgets,
you're able to go to the moon moo.

Speaker 17 (01:38:33):
Yes I have.

Speaker 22 (01:38:35):
Baby, Come here, let me give you a hug. I'm
so sorry. I'm so sorry that happened to you. But
I don't believe you for shit, because look, you don't
seem like the kind of guy that would be with
the girl number one who wears a moomoo and I'm
pretty sure I don't know if she's not wearing Fredericks
and all that shit. Why aren't you buying her some?
Why did you go out and get herself of Victoria's secrets.

(01:38:55):
I've been married sixteen years and I'm almost fifty years old.

Speaker 27 (01:38:57):
I's still dress it up, hilaryus some sexy moves though.

Speaker 10 (01:39:06):
That ship, That ship looked the right way.

Speaker 27 (01:39:10):
Tell them sitting up set it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
But but you know there's but there's a lot of
women that they're just lazy, man, and then they withhold them.

Speaker 22 (01:39:21):
And go buy her something.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
You're lazy, Hillary, coming in, I'm telling you, listen, you
want to I beg your pardon.

Speaker 22 (01:39:27):
Man what you're saying that it's her that's lazy. But
why didn't you go get her something?

Speaker 10 (01:39:32):
She did.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Later? Honey?

Speaker 9 (01:39:36):
Oh you know I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Oh I'm not just comfortable with that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Oh you know, you know, moving on there, you go.

Speaker 10 (01:39:48):
Listen, if she's born by some mangerie fellas, you don't
like the momo, take her to go get something to
were you guaranteed she will appreciate it and you will
appreciate it. Like what are you'all doing bro most relationships,
Last time real love?

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Who wants to come in next? Open popcorn style? What's up,
let's go.

Speaker 29 (01:40:14):
I think a lot of people get complacent in relationships
and they confuse complacency with comfort, and then that complacently
complacency leads to a lack of effort in the relationship.
So it's not that you have date night every Friday night.
It's that that on every date night you go to
the same restaurant, you go to the same places, You're

(01:40:34):
doing the same.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Thing exactly exactly, So then you end.

Speaker 29 (01:40:38):
Up in that space of, you know, one person feels
like it's lacking.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Oh, I wish that you would.

Speaker 29 (01:40:43):
Put forth more effort. Then things start to get a
little sketched.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Nah, I agree with Vaughn.

Speaker 10 (01:40:49):
It's like when we're doing the same thing. That's why
I now, now, now I kind of feel where.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Big Bag's going with this smooth Well, I'm gonna go
back on them. We'll yeah, you hear me.

Speaker 10 (01:41:00):
He must have been doing the same ship over and
over well, like he must have been had the same routine.
Now when you're switching this up with your shorty, you
doing different things. You you experiment you know what I mean,
you exploring, shit's always gonna be exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
That's why.

Speaker 10 (01:41:14):
That's why I'm repelling what he's talking about. And really
I don't really understand what he's saying. Because when you
would to short like and she like you, everything y'all
do is gonna be new, spiced up fun. The ship's
gonna be lit anytime, y'all in the rack. So when
he's when when I'm when I'm hearing big, it don't
sound like he really liked the shorty or the shorty
like him, or even like women at this point, because

(01:41:35):
when you really like women or when you really into
the women, you're gonna be doing. Everything's gonna be lit.
Y'all could go to the target, it'll be lit. You
feel me Like, Yeah, niggas be doing the same ship
and wondering that they don't get no results. Bro, it's
the same routine that's getting you the bullshit. You gotta

(01:41:57):
be a little bit different. We gotta be like, oh,
you want to try this, although you want to do
something different or you it's got to be a little
spicy because a lot of y'all niggas, right, they'll go
into relationships.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Yeah, first thing up keeping.

Speaker 9 (01:42:06):
All of this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Yet were doing this. Everything's new, We're doing it.

Speaker 10 (01:42:09):
And then the ship becomes repeated after you feel me
like Nigga didn't want we do that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
First was in You know what I mean?

Speaker 23 (01:42:15):
You want to you want to relate to somebody with
the vernacular of a fucking eight eighth Credit's crazy, bro,
I don't know how you.

Speaker 27 (01:42:25):
Yo, Yeah, that's crazy, but no, that's real ship though.
Like you you you gotta have some type of spontaneity.
If you're not spontaneous and you're stagnant, that will kill
the desire.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
So yeah, I'm curious about some of the things that
you guys have done to spice up your relationship that
don't have anything to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Do with that.

Speaker 27 (01:42:46):
Oh bring your busty up, that's easy, my god.

Speaker 10 (01:42:54):
Yeah nah, that's a good question though, miss Andrew, Like,
what what do people do to spice the ship up?
Like if it's dead, like you hear some fellas coming
in and say, Yo, this shit's dead or it's getting boring,
what do you do?

Speaker 22 (01:43:07):
You got to raise you's got to need something to
release the dopamine, I mean period and ox toasted is
what's released, you know. When you have an organism. But
it's also what's released when you experience something that's like
a really just just good, just really fucking good moment.
So if you want to recreate that type of feeling
within them, which is what makes you addicted to something
or someone, then you do things. Sometimes. Look, my husband

(01:43:28):
and I go fishing, like every other morning together before
he starts to work, before we do anything, we go
we go off a little baby, go fish. Why because
it's something that you know, he's really really into it
and sometimes became you know, I like it and now
i'm you know, we have a show on Sunday mornings,
Duck Duck Fish and uh So it's like you had
to find something that they like that makes them happy

(01:43:48):
and fucking suck it up. Butck up. Do something outside
of your own wants and need. Sometimes sometimes you don't.
You know, it doesn't always have to be what you
want and what your expectations of it are. Sometimes you
need to do what's they like to do because you
know what you care, You care about them, you want
them to be happy. Not every time, but most times.
If they want to do something, just stop your shit
and just go just do it and that creates that dopamine,

(01:44:10):
that creates that release of the endorphins that you need
to keep the relationship where they are only looking at
you because they don't have a need to get that
validation or that dopamin hit from anyone or anything else
because you gave it to them. So always be hitting
that dopamain always with them, and they won't need or
want anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
And the might unless you, unless you're a kitchenhoor, definitely
can't shatisfy that person.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
That person, right, we started a book club. It was
his mind that I fell in love with, and so
we would pick different kind of books to read on
different topics and we would discuss them and I'd be like,
oh my god, he's so fucking smart.

Speaker 8 (01:44:54):
I want him so bad. Oh lord yep, shout out
to the Fox and Hound book Club.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
Yeah, I mean, and this is the type of stuff
that that This is where the conversation just kind of
gets ridiculous because it's again, I mean, you know, watching
Duck duck food or whatever, or you know, book club.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
You know, no disrespect to you all the way that
y'all do.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
But again, most men, we're not we're not really jacking
that we're just not. And that's why I always say,
I mean, you know, you gotta have options, because when
you have these types of things where you know, men
are not looking to watch Duck duck food on Saturday,
or you know we up there and playing with this
book or that book or doing nerdy ship man, you know,
we just you know, hey, you know, where's my drink?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Where's my food?

Speaker 22 (01:45:36):
You don't listen very well. That might be one of
your problems.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Together, we both host get some, you know, get some,
get some, you know, some real comfy pillows for your knees.

Speaker 12 (01:45:50):
Ma'am.

Speaker 32 (01:45:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I'm not thinking that doesn't read and can't read son and.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Again, you know, now you're throwing shots because no.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
No, no, I'm not even throwing shots like you're situating.

Speaker 8 (01:46:08):
No, I'm not even talking about you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
I'm responding to what you said. You're like, most men
are not even trying to like read, And I'm like, well.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
You're not.

Speaker 8 (01:46:19):
You're not the man. They're not the type of man
that I would entertain.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
You don't have to be because I didn't take a
shot at the sister.

Speaker 17 (01:46:28):
You did take never because highlight at all, I take
direct shots.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
Okay, Well, you're doing the panda bear stuff now, So
there you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Go, you animals, you get your pants for the woman.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Can't Spris this ship up?

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Gender war? Not nigga nigga crown.

Speaker 22 (01:46:51):
Relationship for where where's your girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Right now?

Speaker 17 (01:46:54):
It is the opposite gender. I'm right on point.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
You're all the opposites of us.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Like, the only thing that I was saying is like,
I get what you're saying, Mike, I get what you said.
You were like, you know, most men they're not going
to do duck duck fish or most dudes are not
gonna be into reading, but like Hillary and I aren't
into most men, like we're into our men. And the
reason why our individual relationships are working is because we
found dudes that fit with us. We found the dude

(01:47:26):
that's willing to be in a book club, we found
the dude that's willing to go fishing together. And that's
where at least, that's we're only speaking about our individual successes.
And there are also like women out there who want
to go fishing with their men and they enjoy that.
And there are women out there and dudes up there
who are like, you know what, let's check out this
next book the man in the high Castle. Let's talk

(01:47:47):
about it, considering what's going on right now. So, like
you just you meet the person who fits you, you
get with that person, and then like you can build
the routines that strengthen the love that you got as
have and hopefully it lasts until you die.

Speaker 8 (01:48:03):
But still, you know, there's no guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
We know that, but we do the best that we can,
and at least for now, for me and Hillary, it
seems to be working.

Speaker 8 (01:48:10):
That's all that I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
That's peace. You fucking the cups.

Speaker 10 (01:48:20):
What the fuck do most relationships last out of routine
or real love? It's the conversation, Rico, You fucking came
back in the midst of crime.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
It's crazy, It's great, Rico.

Speaker 10 (01:48:33):
How you feel about this topic though, Ma, bro, you
want to you want to come back in fresh on
the top. I know you didn't get to hit it,
but if you want to hit it, how you feel
about this one?

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
I think I think out of routine, but I mean
to be honest, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
I don't think a lot.

Speaker 21 (01:48:49):
Of people that seen relationships they still have the same
passions and burning as iyas that they did. I think
that a lot of people are patternized. It is routine,
it's mundane. I think that people try to introduce things
their relationships other people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
Some people start having open relationships.

Speaker 21 (01:49:06):
Some people try to introduce sex, toys and all different
kinds of aspects.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
They try to do things. But I just think that
people are just used to what they used to like.

Speaker 21 (01:49:16):
And I think most a lot of people don't even
like the person that are actually with I say this
all the time. I think they like being with them
in certain capacities, but they don't enjoy the time like that,
you're not my friend, like that I don't want like
you know, like how you with your friend, and like
that time goes by, you're not my friend. You just
and most men would just do enough to keep the

(01:49:38):
woman in the healthy romantic space so when she's not
upset to what she doesn't feel neglected.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
But if given the option.

Speaker 21 (01:49:44):
Between doing something that they really have fun and typically
being with her, that they're not gonna choose, sir and
be quite honed. I know a lot of women don't
want to deal with this truth. But a lot of
times that representation looks like stress aggravation. It looks like nagging, complaining.
It looks like we're doing some shit that I have
to do what you want to do? WHI y'all really

(01:50:05):
kind of find corny. But I'll go ahead and do
it because if I don't do it, you're gonna fucking complain.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Brother Rico coming in with his submission.

Speaker 10 (01:50:17):
Thank you, im Rain, thank you for being here, Jasmine, Coach,
Mike Breezy, Miss Andrew Rosie just woke up finally back
from the dad stuns here, Von Rigo, let's continue this conversation.
Do most relationships last out a routine or real love?
I think we got to the bottom of it. How

(01:50:37):
you feel the team? I think we got to the
bottom of what we was trying to figure out. If
you guys want to still chip into the conversation, it's
popcorn stuffing.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Now, somebody jump in. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
The way that goddamnite that all y'all quiet?

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
It got shot? Everyone shot.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
He was shot, Bro, diabolical shot.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
They shot through three topics. They shots. Who did it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Who did it?

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
I forgot who did it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
One of y'all did it? Hillary? Who's Who's who? Shot them?

Speaker 9 (01:51:13):
On?

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Damn? Who won this one? Anywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Sorry?

Speaker 22 (01:51:16):
Officer. I did not see anything anything. I don't know anything.

Speaker 8 (01:51:20):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
An animal that shot that. Niggas in't here. Yep, you
gotta lay the log down, Brod. I'm blaming animal.

Speaker 17 (01:51:31):
I always get.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
At this point, bro because everybody can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
I just my people that's messing the conversations and stuff
like that. Like you're Rick.

Speaker 23 (01:51:45):
Listen, we didn't have a lot of people we had
to stop dealing with because we're all about making.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Bread in every type of way.

Speaker 9 (01:51:52):
So when you shoot somebody, you ain't paid for it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
You gotta paid for it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Gotta pay for way.

Speaker 9 (01:51:57):
Another I'd like to speak on the.

Speaker 10 (01:52:04):
Topic ahead, lovely, you can jump in we popcorn style
from now before it switches up, let's go.

Speaker 35 (01:52:11):
Okay, thank you. So do most relationships last out of
routine or real love? I think that is real love,
which is why it lasts. And I like how Rico
brought up, like some people sometimes they don't even like
the person they're with, because you can love a person

(01:52:32):
and have seasons where you don't like them, but you're
still contributing to their overall wellbeing because you love them and.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Saying you barely like the person. That's what you're telling me.
That's what it's sounds love.

Speaker 35 (01:52:53):
Oh no, because this is the thing, like you're not
gonna always like and be plead eased with how a
person is acting. That's just real life and and and
on this land in America. That's the reason that a
lot of people aren't like in long lasting relationships because

(01:53:14):
they don't get that, like humans are human.

Speaker 8 (01:53:21):
But anyways, uh yeah, that's.

Speaker 35 (01:53:27):
What was I saying, caper Cop, trying to get back to.

Speaker 8 (01:53:31):
Real love.

Speaker 35 (01:53:32):
Really, thank you, And it's accepting that person do what
we would perceive as their flaws or whatever, but you
still love them like them.

Speaker 8 (01:53:47):
And I see that.

Speaker 35 (01:53:50):
I've seen that in my relationships and also in my
relationship with my parents and my friends. So I think
if you guys think about it like that, like the
love of appearing and even your friends.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
If you have some longtime friends.

Speaker 17 (01:54:05):
I have a homie.

Speaker 8 (01:54:08):
That I was wild and on but was still the
one to come to my rescues. That's love.

Speaker 35 (01:54:13):
Like she didn't like me at the time, but she
loved me and we've been friends since second grade. So
it's like, that's why these relationships last because.

Speaker 8 (01:54:23):
It's real love.

Speaker 35 (01:54:24):
It's not just based off of how that person makes
you feel temporarily. It's like more realistic and holistic.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
That's what you came up with.

Speaker 21 (01:54:34):
So when I say, like i'm speaking, I'm thinking about
commonality of interest on with my girlfriend and are romantically
involved with. But I'm doing something that we both enjoy.
We actually love gaming together. My girl is a gamer.
I'm a gamer. I'm not doing missing. As an example,
my girl likes to go jogging. I'm an active runner myself.

(01:54:55):
It's an activity that we're both doing together. So when
we go do it, we look forward to it because
all are we together, but we both share a common
interest in what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
My girl is an avid swimmer. She likes to swim.

Speaker 21 (01:55:09):
I don't really swim that well, but she took me
for swimming lessons and now I'm getting the hang of this.
So that's that's a bonding exercise that we do together
when we're together, when we're in the pool together.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
What I'm trying to get you to see is that
you can love someone, but if.

Speaker 30 (01:55:26):
You're I can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Wow, go ahead, wow animal, cut you wild hyena.

Speaker 19 (01:55:42):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 30 (01:55:42):
I can't hear of the sam song range.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
Since you cut Rico off, go, who do you have
to say? Since you speak? Yep, you gotta speak because
you cut Rico. Rico was talking. You heard Rico.

Speaker 7 (01:55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:55:57):
When he first was talking, though, he was saying and
on the premises of you don't like that person all
the time, you know what I'm saying. So and when
he was saying, oh he thinks this out of routine,
that his reasoning was because you won't like that person
all the time, he was just like, what's convening for
you at the moment. But when he came back got
the lovely he tried to switch it up. I just

(01:56:19):
want to point that out. But I'm gonna say, from
my own personal perspectives, do most relationships last out of
routine or real love? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna have
to say both. Some people get in the habit of
going through the motions right that when they come back
together they stronger than ever. I've seen it happen countless

(01:56:40):
times in my parents' marriage growing up, then my dad
sleeping on the couch for months and then back in
the bed like shit never happened. So I do think
it's a little bit of both. Sometimes you're not gonna
like to put people that you're with, but when you
love them, you know what I'm saying, you ain't gonna
break routine for them. My dad still brought my mom

(01:57:03):
coffee every Tuesday, Thursday or Sunday today analysis even when
they was beeping with each other. So all I'm saying is,
you know, when you really love somebody, it shows, and
you won't you won't just switch up the whole routine
because you don't like them at the moment.

Speaker 19 (01:57:22):
It was beautiful.

Speaker 22 (01:57:23):
Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Wow. Fuck, that's what we have to say about this
Wild Talk records.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
It sounds so crazy, like that just sound crazy. It's
like it's like women.

Speaker 21 (01:57:42):
It's like they think because men are there and they
have a longevity, they think that they're going off the
premise that the men are happy because they're there. That's
the most crazy shit in mill You know how people
been married for twenty thirty years and only ten of
those years were quality years. Not if you've been arrested
in five year years only two of the first two years.
Just because the person is there doesn't mean they're satisfied.

(01:58:05):
They're just doing what they typically do. I'm used to
her kind of crazy. I'm used to this shit. I'm
dealing with it. That doesn't mean that there's some cycling.
That's not a gauge. The gauge isn't the time. The
gauge isn't the longevity of how long people can do.
People can stay in misery forever. I got my kids here,
I got this going on. Me and her are tied

(01:58:26):
together in this way, ain't going nowhere. That don't mean
that person is happy. How many men do y'all know
that rush home to theay significant others that rush home?

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Hey man, you want to go get a drink? Man
before I go home? Or what you're doing?

Speaker 9 (01:58:38):
Bro?

Speaker 21 (01:58:38):
Sitting out here in the driveway? Man about to go
inside the house? Bro, real in your mind as soon
as you walk in the door. God damn, BRO, I
gotta get a minute to myself.

Speaker 8 (01:58:47):
Bro.

Speaker 21 (01:58:48):
Why do you think me and Bill man caves? Why
do you think they build them? What do you think
a man cave is for him to get away from
the rest of his family.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
That's what it is.

Speaker 21 (01:58:58):
That don't mean he don't love them, mean I need
a mental break in space away from them.

Speaker 4 (01:59:03):
So when y'all be.

Speaker 21 (01:59:03):
Saying this like, oh my mom was mad, I guarantee
you and I heard a woman say this as a child,
you never have the perspective as an adult. So because
your mom loved your dad and your dad loved their mom,
you're looking at it from a child's perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
You're seeing two people that love you.

Speaker 21 (01:59:20):
You don't know the inner workings of those grown people
what's going on because you're not seeing it from the
perspective of them in their relationship. You're seeing it from
a perspective of being a child and witnessing your parents.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
It looks totally different to you. And that's all I'm saying.
This is I'm going back on fucking mute.

Speaker 30 (01:59:40):
Okay, first, right, let's put out some things right. First
things first, the title is talking about happiness.

Speaker 19 (01:59:46):
It said why our relationships lasting?

Speaker 30 (01:59:48):
So it is about the longevity. That's first. Second thing, right,
I'm an adult now, so when I see these things
happening and my parents and right, the same things that
I've seen happen over the years, now at my age,
I am capable of having those uncomfortable conversations with my

(02:00:08):
mom or even my dad. Matter of fact, I've been
a safe space for them both to get their shit
off about one another, because shit, they don't.

Speaker 8 (02:00:16):
They don't like outside people.

Speaker 30 (02:00:18):
It goes in their house, stay in their house. So
you know, we keep the conversation within the family, intermediate
family out that it's just us for really besides my kids,
me and my parents, my sister. Right on these premises,
you know, I get what, I get what you're saying,

(02:00:40):
I really do, right. But my whole point in referencing
my parents' marriage is because the routine lover changed, right.
The love that my father showed my mom never changed.
While he slept on the couch months right months, it

(02:01:03):
was about at least five months. But he still woke
up every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday at four o'clock in
the morning while he gotta be at work at six.
He would have got them both coffee. He went and
woke her up for dialysis, and he got her there
even though she could drive herself, she got her own car. Right,

(02:01:25):
These sourts of things, those sorts of acts, why you
are quote unquote mattered at each other or you're not
in the right space with one another. That's what I
meant about the routine don't change because the love don't change. Right.
That's why I said it's a little bit of both
right when oh damn, titles changed.

Speaker 10 (02:01:45):
But mm hm you gave you gave me tired now, Rayn,
I'm tired. Yes, new topic if you guys are just
now joining with recall, I was doing the same thing.
Don't worry, ma, Bro, I was sitting there like Animal.
You know what I mean, Animal, I was doing the.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Same exact shit. Don't worry Fellers.

Speaker 27 (02:02:08):
Mute it, Mute it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Mute it, mud Manute Please? What the fuck.

Speaker 10 (02:02:16):
Do men and women confuse lust for loyalty in the
first ninety days? I want to switch this topic up.
I'm tired of hearing from y'all. Y'all Animal to kick
this shit off. What were doing, bro? How you feel
about this man? Let's switch up the dynamics in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
What's up?

Speaker 21 (02:02:35):
No, I always love him in the first ninety days, baby,
it's those that make it past.

Speaker 17 (02:02:40):
The nineties that really, you know, set themselves apart from
the rest. Remember everybody, I'm all daddy and no.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
Sugar, What did you say? What the what the what
the fuck you say? Animal? What did you say?

Speaker 17 (02:03:02):
You wo wow, No, sugar, I love them all the
first ninety days.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
What is wrong with him? Mhmm. You guys are loving
people in the first ninety days.

Speaker 9 (02:03:21):
I love.

Speaker 17 (02:03:23):
I love all.

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
No, no, no, no, no, he just said he said all.
He just said he red dead. Hillary, what's going on
with this topic? How you feel about this?

Speaker 22 (02:03:32):
I don't think anyone confuses for loyalty, even a thousand
years laid down the road. Nobody's confusing lust for loyalty
because the two do not go hand in hand. The
two don't even sit in the same room together. Lust
and loyalty, that's no, no, no, he's lust for love, yep.
Confuse loyalty for love, yep. But nobody's confusing lust for

(02:03:53):
loyalty because when you're lusted after somebody, you're all everything
is going off. You know, every one of the neural
chemicals in your brain is and yes, yes, yes, this
is everything. You're getting, all that dopamine, you get, all
the oxytocin, you get everything you need, but you're not
in it. There's nothing else there, there's nothing else, there's
a while on earth. Would you confuse that for loyalty?

Speaker 10 (02:04:12):
How did you feel in the night first ninety days, Hillary,
have you ever confused that with A thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Times in my life?

Speaker 22 (02:04:21):
Days I was like, oh my god, whoa sixteen at
the time. But but I mean, you know, there's there's
been all kinds of times where I thought, I really
really thought that somebody was down for me, and then
learn later on, no, it was their their lust for me,
not the way their lust I was confused as loyalty.

(02:04:41):
I thought that I had it like that. I thought
that I had it in a way that they would
only see me, only want me. But the thing is
people who are really what's the word of looking hyper uh,
people that they've become very obsessed, very easily, very quickly.
Those kind of people will also that quickly fall out
of that loss or that obsession, you know, or that

(02:05:02):
that desire, that need to possess. It doesn't last very
long and then they go onto the next one. And
it took me many of your many bad relationships to
learn that the harder they come at you at first,
the quicker they're gonna fade away.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
These stacks.

Speaker 17 (02:05:16):
Now you understand what I'm saying. That's why all of them.

Speaker 10 (02:05:22):
Because they're gonna fall forward in the first day or
so you fucking wild, fucking I don't even know fuck
you fucking I don't even know what to call you anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:05:33):
You fuck it. I'm just better. Yeah, what is going on?
You know?

Speaker 17 (02:05:42):
Sometimes there's less, sometimes.

Speaker 8 (02:05:46):
He's so many demons, man, Yeah, I can't even hear you.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
So I was like, you scratching metal?

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Bro?

Speaker 27 (02:05:55):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
Tell me if I'm bugging? If bro, don't sound like
you're scratching.

Speaker 17 (02:05:58):
Metal and show bomba yeah, fix you, yo, bro, fix.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Your damn Hillary Clinton, phone myther Fuck? What the fuck
is you doing?

Speaker 10 (02:06:10):
A man?

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Who's coming in? Next?

Speaker 27 (02:06:13):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
Who's that? Hillary?

Speaker 10 (02:06:15):
You tell me what they've been So you've mistaken this,
You've seen this and you was like, damn, it ain't
what it ain't all what it's cracked.

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Up to be. Is that what you're telling me.

Speaker 22 (02:06:25):
I've had guys before that pledge their ever loving soul
that you know, I was the one, And then you know,
a month later he told my best friend the same thing.

Speaker 3 (02:06:35):
Oh yeah, so he was a pimp daddy.

Speaker 22 (02:06:39):
No, he was an idiot little boy that was playing
games and thought that by being he was a this
has been suffered of education, but by being obsessed. I
confused his obsession and his attraction for something more. Renestly,
I'm not as lucky as rain. I did not come
from a family where my parents were together, unhappy and
all that shit, So I confused where I thought loved

(02:07:00):
would be. I didn't have a template to look and go, oh,
that's what it's supposed to be. So when somebody was
giving me all that attention, I assumed that they loved me,
so in return, I responded with what I thought was loved,
because that's all I knew at that time.

Speaker 17 (02:07:13):
Mm hmmm, fix my phone, piece of ship?

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
You are you back?

Speaker 10 (02:07:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
Is your bottle of phone working? What's going on?

Speaker 12 (02:07:25):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
You are you here? Whatever? Never compared to a phone
ever you got a raise or flip? Shut up? Man,
listen yeay. Have you ever confused lust for loyalty in
the first ninety days?

Speaker 27 (02:07:39):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
Have you ever seen something like, yeah, I'm on this,
what's going on? Man?

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
I love for loyalty, love for loyd.

Speaker 3 (02:07:48):
Okay, okay, let's talk about it. Definitely that I'm tired
to give you motherfuckers my scenarios. I'm for it.

Speaker 11 (02:08:00):
Yeah, how you gonna do that?

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
And just leave you?

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:08:03):
Get your ass back here.

Speaker 9 (02:08:04):
What the.

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
Screw? Yeah, man, man, forget him and his story too.

Speaker 10 (02:08:13):
He'll get us engaged, right, Miko will be listening, right, Yeah, yeah, nigga,
what happened next?

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
And then he just pulled back Nigga.

Speaker 26 (02:08:19):
This one cheek, bro, When I really thought, cut the
meat off your chest man before you talk to me, Ricco.

Speaker 9 (02:08:30):
But no, it's talking about thought like.

Speaker 23 (02:08:36):
The love, the love and the loyalty thing. It's kind
of tricky with a less than laydy thing is kind
of tricky because you can also love somebody and then
in the loving them. So now, a lot of time
in the beginning you think okay, like like like Hillary
was saying, oh, this might be the one, just to
turn out that it was just only lust.

Speaker 36 (02:08:55):
It's it's a it's a disappointment. But when it comes
down to confusion, the lord hie with LUs, I don't
know how you even do that. I'm different, uh two
different lanes.

Speaker 10 (02:09:08):
Yeah okay ooh yeah, thank you for that. Thank you
for your submission. With's stunning and stunn. It's probably busy, but.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
I want to hear you guys.

Speaker 10 (02:09:15):
Todd, Thank you you working all right, Todd, Thank you
for getting on the stage, Julie Coach, everybody that's still
here with us, we appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
We've been warring out on the war floor now.

Speaker 10 (02:09:24):
Vaughn came up with a good idea earlier, and I
need you guys to put a one in the chat
if you think it's a good idea as well.

Speaker 3 (02:09:31):
But we'll be.

Speaker 10 (02:09:31):
Having events inside of the war Floor where people can
debate and go back and forth, and you guys will
be able to vote on who won. You guys will
be able to control the music selections. Inside of that.
It will be a live versus boxing match, you understand.
So if you guys feel like that's a good idea, put.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
A one in the chat. I'm gonna have von Stunner.

Speaker 10 (02:09:54):
The ladies is gonna be definitely holding the war Floor
down along with the four hundred side as well. I
want them to hold down that ship. If you think
it's a good idea, get up in the chat and
make sure you DM me and yay hit us up
on Telegram Clubhouse if you guys want to be a
part of the live debates, the live heated battles, the
versus that we're about to you know, put on. We're

(02:10:17):
gonna go crazy on the warlf floor and that'll be
you know, schedule things like events that are scheduled with
two people that already hit us on the back end,
and that you guys can go on the war floor
already ready debate, debate and battle about the topic at hand.
And yeah, you know, when you start doing, you start
doing some gift some gift prizes, the some giveaways.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
Man for the winner. Probably do something like crypto tip.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
Yeah, tow something on the crypto tip.

Speaker 10 (02:10:40):
Yeah, you want, you want, you want to do it
for the What I'm saying, what if the women win
that day though we can't. We can't give for rico
what we look like gifing both parties if the other
party lose, man, you have your party lost.

Speaker 19 (02:10:56):
You can't get the bag.

Speaker 23 (02:10:58):
But you act like your ho sell of guy, damn
club And she's like that ladies only ladies come in.

Speaker 10 (02:11:03):
Why I'm talking about stunning in the home. They was
gonna run it, bro, it was gonna be at the top.
I want to stand hold it. Yeah, not what do
you come on? That's why I say you gotta listen.
Stop reading with your fingers.

Speaker 3 (02:11:20):
Listen up.

Speaker 10 (02:11:21):
I was saying, I want Vaughn and stunning the hold
it host it like open the room and ship and
that way we can come through whatever whoever's man.

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
It all I need you to do is at this moment,
it's just such a big back fucking mouth. Right, let
me speak to this title.

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
Go ahead, we get up in there, bro.

Speaker 12 (02:11:45):
You know, a lot of this.

Speaker 21 (02:11:46):
Comes from premature sex, It's all this is a lot
of this come from a lot of this can be
on either side.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
But I'm gonna speak to women to give up the
yams too early.

Speaker 9 (02:11:56):
Just oh.

Speaker 11 (02:12:03):
To see me out.

Speaker 21 (02:12:04):
Loyalty can only be only be established over a period
of time. It's the only way you can mark loyalty.
It's over a span of time. There's no way for
you to know who's gonna be loyal to you. Only
through time. No, you don't have a crystal ball. You
didn't go to Hard Wars. Would you play for Gryffindorf.

(02:12:25):
There's no way for you to look at any person
and be like, that's a loyal person, that's a loyal purpose. Yeah,
you can get references from some people that may want
to give that person a good reference.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
Oh, I think they're a good person, but you don't know.

Speaker 21 (02:12:39):
So when you give up your yams prematurely, you're under
the assumption that I'm gonna be loyal to you. You're
under the assumption that I'm gonna do right for you.
You're under the assumption that you're the only one I have.

Speaker 8 (02:12:51):
I never said that.

Speaker 21 (02:12:53):
You assume that, And when you assume, you make an
ass out of you And Uma Thurman, that's not what
I said that it was you said that. I said
that I like you, I think you're attractive, and all
that sweet things that I said, I didn't take to
get naked.

Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
Now you find out.

Speaker 21 (02:13:08):
There's someone else. Now all of a sudden, Oh you
ain't Lowyer. No, you didn't let you didn't let it
play out that way. You didn't let things run its course.
You were so willing and eager to get freaky decky
let me thank you up, and then now you left.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
Holding the bag.

Speaker 21 (02:13:25):
So the truth of this is just a lot of
times people do not let time play out. They're so
eager and so quickly to want to move forward in
the relationship. You know, a lot of these things work
theyself out. If you just waited before you did that,
it was regretful. You be like, nah, I ain't gonna
do that because I see you're not that. I see
this with you, like red flags and different things, they

(02:13:47):
stick out if you take the time, But because people
don't want to wait the time, they end up getting
hold of the bag. So loyalty is a time thing.
It's based off of time. It's based off you seeing
something a period of times that and they not been
I gave up the panties a few times.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Over and then they realized a dude like, yay, he
just ain't ship.

Speaker 17 (02:14:11):
Wow, I.

Speaker 3 (02:14:18):
Was disrespectful.

Speaker 23 (02:14:19):
I'm glad that you looked at me as your dating material,
but recalling I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:14:23):
I don't go that way, bro, Like, okay, I know you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
If I was that way, you wouldn't be manly enough.

Speaker 10 (02:14:30):
You You don't.

Speaker 3 (02:14:31):
You don't have enough meat on your bones, You skinny bastard.
Be my girl. What the fuck? Cut that out? Cut
that out the podcast. That's not going on on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
Oh, I see how it looks at me, and I
don't like it.

Speaker 9 (02:14:52):
It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (02:14:53):
It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 21 (02:14:56):
Just get on hand and tell one of your stories
again about how some girl you men you like these
snake she was walking like a snake, and she fool.

Speaker 10 (02:15:06):
Oh, yeah you talking about the snake, the snake in
the nurse dress, snake in the nurse out.

Speaker 3 (02:15:12):
Yeah we can. We ain't like you live off that.
Yeah you know you have a snake said, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
I wouldn't mean the back for that. Y'all would have
lost your lord to you for me if y'a was
around that right there.

Speaker 31 (02:15:22):
That is a fact.

Speaker 8 (02:15:25):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:15:26):
Yeah, I didn't mean to do it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
I'm sorry, I really I know that was your girl,
but I really liked her.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
Yeah, that's the type of niggas would have been around her. Bro,
that's a fact, she stacks.

Speaker 21 (02:15:35):
When I dated a woman super loyal, you say, first
thirty ninety days, I'm all in in ninety days.

Speaker 1 (02:15:41):
I love this woman.

Speaker 21 (02:15:42):
I'm a wait a minute, brother, just relaxed, don't don't don't.
I love this woman with every fiber of my being.
In the first night I love her, I'm thinking about, Hey,
how can we move forward? How can we uh solidify this?
To what should I give a ring?

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
What should I do?

Speaker 21 (02:15:55):
In the first ninety days, I'm already head over heels
ninety days, I'm thinking about cohabitating with this woman I'm
thinking about.

Speaker 1 (02:16:03):
Uh, you know who knows. Man, I'm ready to go ahead.
But that's just me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (02:16:08):
Like I'm the one that's sitting out, you know, singing
songs to her and the ring.

Speaker 1 (02:16:13):
I mean, that's just Meedo. But you know, you can't
trust the majority of these guys.

Speaker 17 (02:16:17):
Man.

Speaker 21 (02:16:17):
I know like I'm a sucker for love. That's all right, Stacks, Man,
I'm used to it, and I got my heart broke
a lot of times behind this man. But you know
I'm still gonna keep the faith.

Speaker 33 (02:16:26):
Brother, See Stacks, Wow, some fucking love crazy shit. I
love all my hosts, and you're insane and you're we
go fucking great ninety days. You guys are fucking being punks.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Ninety days for me.

Speaker 3 (02:16:50):
Yeah, I can't believe this shit marriage.

Speaker 17 (02:16:56):
I don't got time today.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
You guys are what I'm saying, both of me. I'm
like that.

Speaker 17 (02:17:05):
I'm like that. I'm like that song Stacks youis love
Leave me Alone?

Speaker 1 (02:17:14):
Day eighty nine. I'm listening to sharing it.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (02:17:17):
I'm ready to pull this ring out in my pocket.

Speaker 10 (02:17:18):
On day eighty eight, eighty nine, Hey, I'm about to
go crash doctor b ship.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Right now, what do you got going on over there?

Speaker 3 (02:17:33):
I'm about to crash that ship. We're about to go
over there with them. Let's go crash. Oh yeah, you
want to go crash that ship? Crash, bro? All right,
I'm gonna shut this ship down. Will happen?

Speaker 17 (02:17:48):
Thanks for coming over there, Bro, We're going to the back.

Speaker 12 (02:17:53):
I'm gonna put the leak and.

Speaker 3 (02:17:58):
No can that ship. I'm gonna go over there, Bro.
Put the chat up in there so you can go
on there for little bit problem strings Sho go shoe
gave me this.

Speaker 9 (02:18:06):
I should have got thirty on the sel beauty. Yeah,
I mean my fix instead of.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Pear boots from Rinky Gray.

Speaker 7 (02:18:11):
And tell me, little girl on the trip one cool
clap out of my money for click, got clap.

Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
Or lie no flick?

Speaker 7 (02:18:15):
You can't take no pick, no flick, No cat by
the bitch and mine.

Speaker 1 (02:18:18):
You whip her a fat head fish her and so fat.

Speaker 7 (02:18:21):
It's amazing, makes her a so fat it's a miracle.

Speaker 17 (02:18:24):
My last man money is sterical.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
She's run the six mon nom sters.

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
Yeah, I'm the same a bust stereo.

Speaker 7 (02:18:29):
Yeah, my boys on the block Suso cereals. I wake
up bitter morning, my cereal flingmake those you're doing are okay?

Speaker 19 (02:18:34):
Ship on they make the same hereal sellings on they
really getting hear me O, get the neb's.

Speaker 9 (02:18:38):
A little busy your cereal. Get it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:39):
The better for pevery to barrow.

Speaker 6 (02:18:41):
But ever rebelling, I've every dinner shoes.

Speaker 1 (02:18:42):
I got to sweat up.

Speaker 8 (02:18:43):
I the hell to fetish you, I am, I.

Speaker 7 (02:18:45):
Can't I bring I want so I went some I
take when you something to say, it's not something that
you know. He has a coup that shi you bout
to rest in my circle.

Speaker 9 (02:18:51):
I would not you put money on money.

Speaker 12 (02:18:53):
In you for your album Rome in the one this.

Speaker 19 (02:18:55):
Boy ship, I'm like you like it's nothing.

Speaker 11 (02:18:57):
My second way go to your seeing like copper.

Speaker 7 (02:18:59):
Broke you seeing me in the shit made a husher brother,
I don't know where again into my home. Yes, wear
that little nigga my clothes.

Speaker 3 (02:19:04):
I had to do this ship on my own air
sum little baby pdumb no no.

Speaker 7 (02:19:07):
Patic on my frisk Yeah, why dumbinghum zipka.

Speaker 19 (02:19:10):
Yeah go ahead to go and.

Speaker 7 (02:19:11):
Get a met Yeah your fingerhere can say like I said, Yeah,
you're a badmansh wee can me what shower are you?
My state to that brispagity, Oh, my great selling little soaker,

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