Gender Warz World Wide Episode 23- "Is Marriage a Real Goal in The Black Community?"

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Oh we're about to go up, Vaughan. What the fuck
they thought we was fucking lacking.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
They thought we was lacking, never.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Stretched, So I give it they stinking our lash, no rubbing,
no clash. You know how they get.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Way, Bob who thought this guy was like.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
She knew my way.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
It's kind of heyn she holding my word, seeing everything, but.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Their Oh we're about to go up, we'll be doing.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
She didn't get my wood.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
Never do crazy this time to be in my eye
when you're telling me that it's nine sold.

Speaker 8 (00:52):
I'm to play our game for a line.

Speaker 9 (00:54):
And no baby, and you are bad.

Speaker 10 (00:57):
Of something that asked you Jemmy grays and girls.

Speaker 11 (01:01):
And I said nothing else fast.

Speaker 12 (01:03):
I'm like my yum y.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
And I asked for like sho show the nice skinny
ties that stretched.

Speaker 12 (01:11):
So I drive.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I gave it the staking our glass, no rubbing, no flash, dugs.

Speaker 8 (01:18):
You know how they get right, BN, I got it,
get my bed, it.

Speaker 12 (01:22):
Stops on shot on my word the floor. See niggas,
you know I'm in my birds. She said, you now,
I'm man, say you know for shuts you sit on
my man.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Just fill up your scut fuck out dud, making sure
she come first. Hey, man, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:37):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't give a fu. What's going you get your
hyena ass up here?

Speaker 6 (01:42):
You and my back.

Speaker 12 (01:46):
You thought you thought of what?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Who sends the most mixed signals? Motherfuckers? Who sends it?
Shakiro rosie. Let's get into this ship, man opening ship up.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Man a fluid?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You said men?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You said men?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I know who gives.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I know who gives the most mixed It's women. It's women.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Standing you know why.

Speaker 13 (02:17):
I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Y'all would give us a whole running round before you
take accountability. Let's get into this ship. You will give
us a whole running around before you actually take a compability.
So I want to I want to. I want to
know what you think is your care? What do you
what are you trying to say? I think it's bullshit,
But you can continue if you would like your submission.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Now you said you're gonna talk.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm done. I'm done. I said it's the women. The
women are given most.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
I think the men give off most of the mixed signals.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Why why is that? Why do you believe this?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I agree with you, yo, The reason why I say
that men give off. The most mixed signals is because
y'all you you act like everything is down to earth
and we want to make home. Okay, we want to
play house with y'all.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
I'll tell it straight up. These niggas wind and dine
these women and do all of this relationship stuff just
to tell these women they don't want to be exclusive.

Speaker 11 (03:29):
Why are you, hey, so while so while we're playing house?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yo, you over there playing house with what five? Ten?
Maybe three bitches?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So just because I'm playing house that I'm giving Because
I'm playing house, yes.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
Because you wanted me to be the mommy, but you
don't really want Why are we playing house?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
What if it's fun to see?

Speaker 8 (04:02):
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Relax, relax?

Speaker 12 (04:06):
He is?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
What if I like it? You gotta love it? What
the you talking about?

Speaker 14 (04:16):
Like?

Speaker 10 (04:16):
What's going to.

Speaker 9 (04:18):
Make life?

Speaker 8 (04:19):
And to keep playing that and that?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
And look, that's the problem is that we fall in
love during that moment.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
So like the nobody told y'all to fall in love?

Speaker 12 (04:29):
Though? What if?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
What if what if I said relax, let's ticket? What
if I got I want the tickets?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
If you told me, if you told me to relax,
I would back all the way the funk up.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
That's the mixed signals right there. They tell you relax,
they tell you relax back, y'all tell these women relax,
and then y'all go have raw sex with them and
don't pull like.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Please explain, baby girl, that's the part right exactly.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
Please explain.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, bullshit that.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 15 (05:06):
That's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's bullsh it. I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
She said, Yeah, he does that.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I'm trying to finish.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
You.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
You you ferocious.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah yeah, you called her straight. You caught her straight
like a mother right there.

Speaker 12 (05:44):
I'm trying to get.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I don't believe you, yo.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah yeah, these ferocious beast says that you're going in
and out.

Speaker 12 (06:08):
I don't give mixed signals. I'll let you know why
the start. It's up to you.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
No, no, I don't even talk as much. You caught
it straight, and I'm going on you. I'm going I'm
going on you and I'm not gonna talk no more.

Speaker 12 (06:24):
This is this is crazy. I just can't even kill you.
Know what I don't. I don't give mixed signals. Okay.

Speaker 16 (06:31):
What I do is I tell you what it is
and then if you. It's up to you to keep
my mind, you know the same. And if you change it,
then that helld on.

Speaker 12 (06:44):
The Republic and nobody wants you around if you if
you change it, then that's that's what the problem coming at.
I don't. I don't give mixed signals.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (06:52):
I don't believe in mixed signals. I'm direct, all out,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Make love you.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Something in me is saying that women still give the
mixed signals, all of that for nothing.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
Well, confusion, So let me clear that up right, women,
us women, we never give mixed signals. Okay, it's just
you guys. Think you got you guys. You guys pretend
to be something that you're not.

Speaker 12 (07:21):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
And then once we get to know you, guys, you
realize that we don't actually like you, and then we
leave you guys alone.

Speaker 12 (07:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So they're playing they're playing games, yo, in the first
core part of the game.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
They're playing games in the first part of the game.
Some bullshit, who gives mixed signals?

Speaker 14 (07:44):
More?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Let's have this open conversation, Rosie bond Stunner, May yo,
fucking make love you coming in here looking like a
damn rapist.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, who gives Let's go, Men give more mixed signals
than women.

Speaker 17 (08:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Kidding me?

Speaker 12 (08:10):
Listen, listen, listen if.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
You if you were talking about both of your parents,
especially your mom my, Mom taught me women can never
lie ever, because women are emotions. They cannohide the truth.
They can't hide their emotions, like mommy taught me. If
you know how to test those emotions, you you can catch.

Speaker 12 (08:31):
Every single lock, or you'll never recognize.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
When it's not the truth.

Speaker 12 (08:35):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Men emotional, we can go like a mother. But women,
if you don't know how to read them, they will
tell you don't do the cat. They they can't fight
their emotions.

Speaker 12 (08:50):
Men just don't. We don't pay attention.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
We look at the ask, the sex or the bullshit,
and she'd be ripping your book. But you just don't
know how to read women. So you get your ass
at my level. That ship's friends becomeing.

Speaker 18 (09:06):
Damn that.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Because a Republican. That mic is so trash, bro, what
are you speaking on him?

Speaker 14 (09:15):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I can't even hear you fucking phone nine hundred and
twenty seven times?

Speaker 8 (09:21):
Will you count it?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Wow? It sounds like it.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Ship who gives more mixed signals? I think that's bullshit
because we couldn't hear him. His mic is it's bullshit.
It's all bullshit coming up here.

Speaker 19 (09:34):
Y'all heard that man say gives, but it's bullshit though,
Vaughn vnn his mic is bullshit, So it's all bullshit.

Speaker 9 (09:45):
That he says.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
So real ship, though, niggas don't know what they want.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
They don't if you pay attention to a woman, women
aren't emotional. It's possible that my mother told me when
I first met your daddy was lining my asshole.

Speaker 12 (10:02):
That's what we do.

Speaker 10 (10:03):
We gotta we can't, can't.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
We gotta pull you out.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
But your attention to women.

Speaker 13 (10:10):
I couldn't lie shit because my emotions can't keep up
with my thoughts.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
They can't.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So because like hens, he knew, I was just stopped
sucking with that ship.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
All right, all right, I'm just tied in the mic.

Speaker 12 (10:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You gotta get a new phone.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
The phone's fucking fucking with me.

Speaker 20 (10:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's like this scratchy ass noise.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Bro, Bro, Bro, I don't want to hear that mic.
Move on your friend. You could get him out the audience, yo, Jonathan,
what's good?

Speaker 12 (10:40):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Mis the wood old I got the woods with me.
Hold on, man, I didn't even see Jonathan with me.
You know what it is, Listen, I can't want to
hear that scratchy ass Mike. You sit your ass in
the audience until you get a new phone. All of
that bullshit I heard is cap it's spoilshit, and B
you got a nerd and mclove you with you. Shut

(11:05):
up your goddamn wild hyenas. You're fucking wild, ferocious, fucking
zoo keepers.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
I don't want to hear are the keepers and y'all
are the lists.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I don't want to hear that bullshit. Who gives more
mixed signals women?

Speaker 11 (11:25):
Do?

Speaker 12 (11:25):
You? Guys?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Will will run us around the fucking block until it's
time to take y'all don't want to take accountability. I'm
standing on this side. You feel me.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm staying on this side. Jonathan, how are you feeling.

Speaker 18 (11:42):
Way more mixed men? It's not even clowns women trying
to play coy. Women like attention as men. I can't
tell you the number of times I've seen men they
go out, they go out to a club, they be
dancing with the lady. By her she'd be smiling she'd
be grinning, giving him attention, give him the number, never

(12:07):
hear from him.

Speaker 12 (12:09):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So you're saying it's more ghost thing going on on
our side, Jonathan, that's what you're saying on their side.

Speaker 12 (12:15):
No, what I'm saying is when you're talking about mixed signals,
men don't do that.

Speaker 18 (12:20):
If a man likes you, he likes you. You not
gonna see a man hang out with you all night,
dance with you, flirt with you, buy you drinks, and
then not call you and not follow up. If he say, hey,
I'd love to see you this week, you can best
believe nine times out of ten he gonna call.

Speaker 12 (12:40):
Women have a whole husband at home, whole boyfriend.

Speaker 18 (12:44):
But they like go out, like to live in a moment,
like to get the attention, have the free drinks, dance
a little bird, I still got it, get their ego stroke,
go home, fuck their husband. Have no plans on ever
calling that man or see them again. Women definitely send.

(13:06):
It's not even close.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
That real shipped on this, because that's what men do.
They go out to the club by girls, drinks all night.
You see what I'm saying, Get numbers, get instagrams, knowing
that their wife is at home waiting on them in
her move. I'm just saying, your wife is waiting on

(13:35):
you with a fried chicken dinner and you at the
club buying somebody else drinks with her money.

Speaker 12 (13:41):
I'm kind of inferiors heal clubs, and.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
That's why he at home.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
That's why y'all got. Y'all gotta beat the facts when
y'all talk about stuff like.

Speaker 21 (13:53):
The facts, like when we when we talk about stuff
like this, he'll like, it shouldn't even be a if
you just go, you know, off the facts. And all
my life and even on this l I've been hearing
women say men only want one thing. Now we're the
ones who are unpredictable, and now we have you know,

(14:14):
come on man like either. I think women is just
when it's time for y'all to take accountability for something
that's y'all characteristic. Y'all say, no, it's the man. But
all my life, I've been hearing y'all say men just
want one thing? So now how are we the ones
who you know, beat around the bush or give mixed
signals like I don't I don't get it?

Speaker 12 (14:35):
Which one either?

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Do y'all know that men want one thing or do
men give mixed signals which one?

Speaker 8 (14:41):
No, we know that you guys want one thing. It's
the steps that you're taking to get that are giving
you on a relationship instead of just saying that you
want that one thing. That's the mixed signals that we
be talking about.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I don't I don't think that happened like that, man.
I think I think that that women give more mixed signals,
and it's worse because it's on purpose women as y'all
getting dressed, y'all know, y'all going out to give mixed signals.
When y'all getting a quote with y'all homegirl and talk
about what y'all fore to drink, y'all know y'all feitna
go out and give mixed signals for those drinks. So

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it's like, come on, now, let's be for real.

Speaker 19 (15:19):
It's interesting that men for so long claim to know
so much about women, but then y'all say, there's mixed signals,
So do you know everything about women like y'all claim,
or are y'all that's.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
The same thing I just said about the women?

Speaker 19 (15:34):
So you see how dumb that shit sounded.

Speaker 21 (15:36):
Rights, But that's why I said it to show y'all
how dumb and be sounding when y'all say, Okay, men
only want one thing or men. But y'all been claiming
to know men for one hundred years. So how it's
the same men that y'all know so well, and y'all
can teach y'all daughters about and coach youll friends on. Well,

(15:56):
I guess I guess you're saying, I'm gonna help you out.
So I guess y'all saying, even though y'all know us
so well, you know that we're coming with mixed signals.

Speaker 12 (16:04):
I'm trying to help y'all saying what you said.

Speaker 19 (16:06):
Back to you so you can see how false, how
much of a fallacy that argument is.

Speaker 12 (16:12):
But you want to repeat what I said about y'all,
I think you.

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Went over your head. It's okay.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
The point is she is telling the truth and you are.

Speaker 12 (16:27):
That game. I think like this. If a man acts
like he likes you, you know he likes you.

Speaker 18 (16:39):
If a man smiles and compliments you and ask for
your number or gives you his number or says, hey,
let's get together, you know he likes you. With women,
just because a woman smiles, just because a woman gives
you the number just because she kick keys with you.
It doesn't mean a goddamn thing. So when women are queens,

(17:02):
I got a million homegirls and they've told me because
you know, when I was younger, I was like, what
the hell is this? I said, I've I've because I
was in the night life business, and I've like, I've
hung out with women all night, had a great time
and never heard from them. And then there's been women

(17:23):
I swore, eh, you know, I'm probably not going to
hear from them, and they called me and we hang out,
and I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 12 (17:32):
My friend? This is what some of my friends told me.

Speaker 18 (17:35):
You will go crazy trying to figure out the mind
of a woman because half the time we don't know
what we're doing ourselves. A lot of us live in
the moment, so you can't read too much into it
because a lot of times we just want some attention.

(17:55):
I'm like, God, I damn, I don't.

Speaker 12 (17:59):
Think men do that.

Speaker 18 (18:00):
I think, like he said, women be getting dressed, got
a man, No, damn, Well, they not following up on
a goddamn thing. They go out with their girls, drink
for free, get into v I p eat for free,
laugh and dance, have a great time. Go to Vegas,
go to Miami, don't pay for ship, front row and usher, gamble,

(18:28):
maybe even get some clothes, might even get some spinning, buddy,
And don't ever and don't ever plan on following.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Up at this. They lyeing the whole time. They premeditate
to life the whole time. Come on, man, your whole

(18:58):
lifetime is a lie.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
No, the worst part is we lying to each other
because you're doing all this.

Speaker 22 (19:05):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
The worst part is we lying to each other because
you're doing all this and you don't even really want
to be with the girl. That's where tricking came from.
Like men fly women out, take them on vacations and
be in whole relationship. They do this for their side chicks.
This don't mean that they want you. That is not
what that means.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Okay, so watch this though.

Speaker 21 (19:26):
Have you ever seen any woman that actually sit there
and let guys a bout her drinks?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
You ever see her do it with an attitude like
and stay.

Speaker 21 (19:35):
From the I don't like you, and I ain't forgive
you my number and nothing, but still buy me that drink.

Speaker 12 (19:39):
The point is you.

Speaker 21 (19:40):
Still gonna batch your eyes and be like, oh yeah,
but give me that the little whatever out the tequila
or whatever you drinking. You you know what I'm saying,
you not me, and you already. But the point I'm
making is men feel real. You already know what he
brown you drinks for.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
He you know he's not bouying you drinks because I'm
just fit by your drinker, because I just need a
friend to talk to the night.

Speaker 12 (20:01):
You know what I'm saying, talk don't. Let's be for real.

Speaker 21 (20:03):
But you will sit there when you see him I
offer you a drink, you will say, hold on, I
fair turned up my manipulation to get one hundred draints.
Matter of fact, come sit by me, homegirl. Make sure
he buy both of us drinks, and I'm gonna keep
acting like I like him. You see what I'm saying.
So I think my thing is I think men are
more realer when they comes down to this stuff than
when y'all love manipulating.

Speaker 12 (20:24):
Play the game which is given mixed signals.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
But I just like to that term kind of weakens
it a little bit, you know that mixed signals, because
you can kind of play with that.

Speaker 12 (20:35):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
But I believe you guys live in dishonesty way more
than me.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Now, I understand that viewpoint. Right now, a woman may
sit there and act like she likes a man according
to you, to get drinks. But y'all are notorious and
known for actually sleeping with women that y'all won't even
acknowledge in public. Y'all sleep with women that y'all don't
like all the time. And that's the ultimate mixed signal
to me, Why are you freaking with somebody that you

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don't even really like?

Speaker 21 (21:02):
Oh wait a minute, so do the people that lie
about their body count the most? Is saying that, not
saying you do no disrespect as a whole. Women lie
about their body count the most for you to make
that come you baby.

Speaker 19 (21:16):
Men also lie about their body count, y'all make it
more than what it is. When most of y'all aren't get.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Oh wow, so are you saying? Are you saying that they.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
And let's take it a step further, they're not getting
no kuchie. That's why they buying them drinks in the
club hoping that nobody's gonna sleep with them.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah you hear this ship, bro?

Speaker 12 (21:44):
You lying about her body count too?

Speaker 23 (21:49):
Who I don't answer questions like that, so I don't
have to lie.

Speaker 24 (22:00):
Yo, Who the fuck is that your daddy.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Out rapist today? Kidding me right now?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
I thought I was tripping, bro, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm not tripping. I know her voice, but damn picture.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Whenever you can't please, you could just say the way whatever.
Who gives more and most signals? More men or women?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I've already gave my submission. I said it is the women.
They will run us around the block. Angel even said,
y'all will manipulate us and have the homegirls sitting next
to you. So I gotta buy you your motherfucking bestie drinks.
I want to continue this conversation. The floor is open.

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Who gives more mixed signals?

Speaker 12 (22:52):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Men or women? Popcorn style? Let's continue.

Speaker 21 (22:57):
And you know what else, guys, let me say this. Man,
I didn't watched, you know, and I ain't mad at
it because I love women. But they know, man, y'all
you know half a duce, y'all y'all go so crazy
arguing with them. Man, they know, y'all not feel the
win is brouh cause they I'm gonna tell you something
they don't care. I'm gonna hear the mic on it,
and I say that make them. I'm just saying, like you,

(23:19):
not saying them make y'all some bad people. All I'm
saying is the truth is y'all know the truth about this.

Speaker 12 (23:24):
Man.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Y'all don't care. Y'all feel man, these dudes go stud it,
do this and me that's.

Speaker 12 (23:30):
Why I don't.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't go out and do this type of stuff brouh.
But I understand why y'all. Women do it.

Speaker 21 (23:36):
For most dudes, you know, boom they coming like this here.
But the truth is this is what y'all do. Y'all
even do it to your own husbands and boyfriends that's
in the same.

Speaker 12 (23:44):
House as you.

Speaker 21 (23:45):
You you make it a lifestyle of giving mixed signals.
Why because it's about controlling and getting what you want.
Because most of y'all are big babies and princesses who
want your fairy tale right you want so y'all whole thing,
and the way that y'all even with your kids, I'm
gonna gar them like somebody get mad, but y'all gonna

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play everybody. Y'all give everybody mixed signals for control.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
Right, y'all, men live in mixed signals.

Speaker 19 (24:13):
One day y'all talking about y'all don't hose, and the
next minute you're fucking with the hose. And then the
next minute you want a virtuous woman, and in the
next minute you want a virtuous whole.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I don't know what is not a virtuous whole, And.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
The next signal because they will marry the virtuous woman.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Then with the God, wake that up.

Speaker 21 (24:35):
That sounds like both sides. Though I thought women have
s black of village too, What black of village?

Speaker 5 (24:43):
You heard my fact?

Speaker 25 (24:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (24:45):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
They're gonna listen to that song of belly on the
women that is all men.

Speaker 21 (24:51):
Mm, I'll be listening to se y'all listen. This is
what y'all don't get. We play a tint like all men,
not dumb and slow. This is why y'all been getting
away with this stuff for a year, because most dudes
are dumb and low and they think with their little head,
so y'all be running circles around them.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
But it's a group of us who's smart and we
pay attention to y'all.

Speaker 21 (25:10):
And everything you're saying on his cap right now, y'all
know that your manipulent dep and you to get your
way in anytime.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
You can't. You see that you might not get your way.
You're gonna turn up a little more. You Oh you
think you I can't control you. I ain't got you
in my pocket. Watch this, Watch this, Watch what I do?

Speaker 12 (25:28):
You know what I'm saying? Come on now, let's be
for real.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
Know what does y'all have to do? A mixing?

Speaker 21 (25:38):
Because that's what mixed signals really is, though, manipulation. Think
about it, yo, yo, listen, listen, listen. Shout out to
everybody that just pulled up. Shouts to my sister Diego,
shuster Kevvy, Shostter, Jhonath, I got the woods with me today.
You heard real o g ship on the app right now.

(25:59):
Yay for a hundred side with me? Oh my god,
mclovey with me all way from the goddamn West coast.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Vaughn.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I appreciate you, Stunner. You already know Rosie we locked
in mighty what up? Diego my sister a or Ral Yo,
let's go up, angel right listen, who gives more mixed signals?
I already gave my submission. I said to women, will
they'll run us around the block. Let's continue to have
this conversation open popcorn style. Anybody can jump in, help me,
room up, home team, everybody pin, I gotta.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Stay the stacks. It's definitely the men.

Speaker 20 (26:30):
How long do men sit in relationships with women and
never give them a ring? Come on, she's just sitting
there because you saying left right up down, turn around,
left right up down, roll around in a circle.

Speaker 17 (26:43):
And she's like, I.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Think, I think, I think he's about Oh he's Oh,
she's so damn confused. It is the men. Stop capping
in this room.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
You better do it. Simon says, on your hat, put
your hands on your toes.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
All right, Max sigh.

Speaker 18 (27:13):
Look, my best friend is because one of my best friends,
my female best friends, you know, pretty lady educated.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
Uh, she's an attorney. She went with her whole girls
to Vegas. Do you know that these girls went to
the day parties.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Jam?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
The day party is crazy?

Speaker 21 (27:40):
He say, the day party might even tell about that
went to the onceer concert.

Speaker 18 (27:46):
Ain't at the nicest restaurants, partied in bottle service, and
I asked us the way how much money.

Speaker 12 (27:54):
That you spend this week?

Speaker 18 (27:56):
She said, you ain't gonna believe me. I said, I
I believe you how much? She said, we didn't spend
a dime. I said, what, man, Guys invited us all
week in in long dudes. They come to the concerts. Hey,
we got tickets to the fight. Hey come to the

(28:17):
We got bottle service. Hey we got a table at town. Hey,
woo woo woo. She is the only thing we had
to pay for was our hotel, she said. Men was,
you know, all kind of invited. Now they got their
own money. But they smiling like like ohme, boys said,
they smiling and grinning man, thinking they have a chance

(28:41):
knowing damn well, they all got men at home.

Speaker 12 (28:44):
They on a girls trip, all these men wooing and standing.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I ain't gonna lie man them girl trips be real suspicious, bro.

Speaker 21 (28:54):
Whoa Hey, y'all know what's going on on them girls trip.
That's why I came down with the girls.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Go girls. I'm a specially stunner.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
No my girls trip.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
Yeah, girls just want to have fun.

Speaker 26 (29:12):
Stopping been our own money.

Speaker 25 (29:15):
We buy our own work on each other, work on
each other, recorded them.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Man, right, what stays in Vegas? Things in Vegas. That's
why we don't need the man, because we got each other.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, you got each other's sisterhood. That's all y'all need.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Does sound like twelve year olds?

Speaker 11 (29:38):
What are you talking about? A sleepover slumber parts?

Speaker 21 (29:40):
Wow, well you seem like you seem like you might
be mature. But let me say this right here, we
just let's let's be for real. Men are not giving
mixed signals. And y'all been saying that I'm not gonna
eat my mama, my sister, everybody all y'all wo me.
Y'all know they don't because I've been listening to y'all,
y'all everything. Now I'm gonna be on it's some snakes

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men out here who played a good guy role and
still buying a drink and playing a good girl role
like he don't want nothing, But however do you do
everything about his body and language, his eyes and everything
and telling you what he wants you still to get
what you want? You gonna play along with him? Then
play the victim at the word and say, he giving
me signals? Now, baby, you knew everything is mine was
up to stop playing. He's not giving mixed signals. You

(30:24):
using that as an excuse after you didn't did what
you did to say, oh, well, I went this. All
this happened because me and are giving mixed signals. Now
you will tell texting your girl, look how he looking
at me? Girl, I'm gonna sit it right here and
lay if you knew what he want and stop playing.

Speaker 12 (30:38):
Come on, man, don't do.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
It like that.

Speaker 19 (30:40):
It's funny because at what point you were like, yes,
it's men out here do that, but men don't do that.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Which one is it?

Speaker 5 (30:46):
I just and that's why I just said. Also, it's
a man out here a signal? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
that's stout good. But everybody heard me say that. Okay,
maybe it is.

Speaker 21 (30:58):
That means I'm coming back now after I thought about it,
saying you know what, maybe it is. I'm not gonna
act like every guy just out here, not being a
complete snake, but I do believe that there are guys
out here.

Speaker 12 (31:09):
Well I know it's guys who are here who come
like that.

Speaker 21 (31:12):
But I also know that y'all women are very intelligent
and ain't nobody getting over on half of y'all.

Speaker 12 (31:18):
Y'all not y'all been in the water, y'all been in
the clubs, y'all been in the bars.

Speaker 21 (31:22):
You knowing when you see them, you sitting there on purpose,
giving them mixed signals like you wicked.

Speaker 12 (31:26):
Than what you really is?

Speaker 21 (31:30):
Right right, Come on now, so you're not playing, You're
not sitting there taking his drinks and making him think
he may got a chance even though you already take
your girl.

Speaker 12 (31:41):
Man, his brothers think I am not. But were gonna
get my five more drinks.

Speaker 11 (31:46):
From this drink, sir, But thank you so much for
being kind.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
He see you know how to play the game good,
and I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna
argue with you because I don't know what life, but
you know how to play the game good.

Speaker 12 (31:58):
Though.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Wow, that's why they call her number one stun up,
because you you can't really argue with nobody about their
own life. But if we go off what we've seen
that experience and where most women.

Speaker 21 (32:12):
Going, especially when they trying to have a good time
and they realize they didn't got the one, they ain't
got to spend their own money to night each and
never one of them gonna utilize that. Right, You probably
have one girl who like my by my own drink.
The rest of y'all for the girl come on there
going on? You are the ones it's y'all the.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
And yeah, I can see.

Speaker 21 (32:35):
But then if you were so, if you if you
wasn't giving me signals, you were straight up soon you
won't bad your eyes or nothing.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
You're look at them like, Okay, I take your drink,
but bag up, y'all. Don't do that. Okay, Okay, you
got Okay, how many more joints you're gonna buy? Some
old drags? Okay?

Speaker 12 (32:54):
Come on, stop playing that, y'all. What happened? Y'all? Smile?
The men come over, and y'all entertain the men.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Hand and everything, the whole entertainment with.

Speaker 18 (33:11):
The energy are come. Dudes, invite y'all to the day party.
Dudes invite y'all with the sections. You go with your girls,
y'all smiling, you know, they entertaining, and so men thinking
that they have a chance. That's where the mixed signals,
the mixed signals is you know damn well, you don't
plan on acting on any of this.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
You know why.

Speaker 18 (33:35):
They're giving you the energy they give it. You don't
plan on following it up. You're not interested the way
they interested, and you know that, but he don't know that. So, yeah,
if a man's if a man's showing an interest. That's
not your issue.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
But when you y'all do it every weekend, y'all entertain it.

Speaker 12 (33:57):
That's where the mixed signals come in.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Right hold on.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
The sign is saying one thing and doing another.

Speaker 27 (34:06):
She never said nothing.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Nothing but participating there is a mixed signal. Now, if
you participate entertaining, that's one way.

Speaker 18 (34:17):
If you're entertaining a man, if you don't plan on
following through, you don't have interest. But you over there
going to dinner because he asks you to a nice restaurant,
but he really at you type, that's a mixed signal.
If you over there in the section smiling, letting dudes
buy you bottles, but you got a man at home,
you don't plan on going out with him, that's a

(34:38):
mixed signal. That's what mix that's the definition of mixed signals.
If a man, hold on, if a man asks you
to dinner, you know he likes you. Just because a
woman accepts and goes to dinner with us, we don't
know if she likes us.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Because women are doing what mixed signals every day.

Speaker 19 (35:02):
It says mixed signals occur when someone's words and actions
are inconsistent, often leaving the recipient confused about their intentions, words,
and actions. If that lady did not verbally tell you
that she won't you, she didn't sing you ale, miss signal,
you just don't know how to read.

Speaker 21 (35:24):
So what about her actions? You talked about verbal What
if she's going alone, that's action. If she's participating that action,
I just read.

Speaker 10 (35:35):
We got action.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
We got action. She going alone?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
That's because you brought a drink. You didn't say that
you wanted anything.

Speaker 18 (35:45):
You ain't.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
You ain't taking that drinking. No attitude, baby, come, I
told you, y'all it's accountability. Now, you just brought a drink.

Speaker 18 (35:58):
We're not listen to buy. I agree with you buying
the drink. That ain't the mixed signal. But when y'all
entertained the attention, that's the mixed signal. If a man
just sends you a drink from across the room, no,
I agree, that's not a mixed signal. But the actions
you y'all are grown women. Y'all know what we're talking about.

(36:21):
Because right the man asked you to the mastros.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Man asked you to a sorry, sorry jumping.

Speaker 18 (36:32):
Let me let me say this last point, a man
asked you for an obvious eight type of restaurant, just
ain't a friend type of restaurant. He asked you to
a Mastros or Eddie V's or whatever you have in
your area. That's nice ro man five star, and and y'all,
oh yeah, I love to go. But you know you

(36:53):
don't like that man. You know that you ain't interested.
He ain't so type. You ain't gonna get you ain't
gonna get there. But he's gonna take you out. You're
gonna have a nice evening, You're gonna have a nice dinner.
You let him spend some money on you, and you might. Y'all,
some of y'all go out two, three, four times. And

(37:13):
that's why a lot of men don't want to That's
why the whole coffee date start coming up. Women like,
why you men are so cheap? Why y'all don't because
a lot of men are like a lot of women
will go out, waste the time, waste the money, and
they don't really have an interest in you. So a
lot of men, because of that, are now trying to
keep it simple and trying to find out is a

(37:36):
woman really interested in me or she's just interested in
going out to a nice dinner because what a lot
of women are sitting mixed its?

Speaker 12 (37:46):
Thank you? Cos? What up?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Man jumping.

Speaker 28 (37:57):
This?

Speaker 9 (37:59):
I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Can't hear you your so?

Speaker 9 (38:02):
So I got you, I got you, I got you, y'all.
So when man, when when when y'all say that? I
just heard everything?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
So is it me or Hoss's love on my tripping?

Speaker 14 (38:15):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (38:16):
He's still pretty.

Speaker 13 (38:21):
Much better, all right.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
So what I'm saying is that to that man and
women are smarter than men. If if that ship was
a ridd of thing, for sure, Because if y'all if
that how they sit in a mixed signal and you
offered a boy a woman a drink. Woman ain't turned out,
no fuckers free drink. What woman gonna do that ship?

Speaker 5 (38:40):
She she?

Speaker 9 (38:41):
She ain't what?

Speaker 10 (38:42):
So you know what gold there?

Speaker 9 (38:43):
Because she's turned out and drinking. Niggas y'all crazy, Hell, y'all.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
Think men ain't going to see mixed signals. Most you
niggas won't push anyway from the women. So that's but y'all,
But y'all swear, y'all, and it makes the funk out
of them. Hear the words sithing go on clubhouse. See
niggas on clubhouse. Whoever said this it that.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
That's why that you on clubhouse, that's why you don't.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Got no woman slam beside your ass that you that
you that you committed to for sure, that's that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
I'm not I bet you don't. Whoever just said this
ship I don't sit for.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
I don't have to sit for no woman on clubhouse
because I give a damn about these motherfuckers. Yeah, I know,
keep on keep on finished trigger because I'm talking about
your ass. Even though I say your damn name, I
don't know who the fuck you is. I ain't looking
at my phone. So when I'm saying it, most you niggas,
I'm gonna it gotta be a little kid though for
sure you know what I'm saying. I gotta be a

(39:32):
little kid. But gender one, I'm gonna get on your
ass in the free minutes when I get on saying
of fin the say most niggas that I know are manipulators.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
Like a motherfucker.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Y'all know damn well, when y'all was younger, because guess more,
some of y'all here older than me.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
When y'all younger, you weren't trying to cuff that girl.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
You just wanted some pussy because she looks a certain
kind of way. Her ass was big, so you wanted.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Some push it from him.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
So y'all manipulated shit out like yeah, telling her that
she looked good. Y'all like her, y'all can go with her.
But then y'all turn around then, y'all, y'all, you ain't coming.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
To her, so that that ain't.

Speaker 11 (40:11):
Lost your highs.

Speaker 21 (40:13):
Yeah, because he's talking about little boys. It's not like
he talking about some little boys or something. You're talking
about me and me and me.

Speaker 12 (40:22):
You got to nobody to get the down.

Speaker 9 (40:25):
Y'all. See see you see boy, you see what they'm
talking about.

Speaker 10 (40:29):
All the women.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
If you see what I'm saying, when you start exposing
the ass, they start to come off there.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
Michael du like y'allposing out.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
How's he doing it?

Speaker 12 (40:40):
BROA, who did it first?

Speaker 11 (40:43):
Talk about?

Speaker 5 (40:43):
You?

Speaker 9 (40:47):
I know who voice was? You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
That ship's y'all so triggered because I'm telling y'all, I'm
telling the truth.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Y'all know that ship the truth.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Y'all know it's men who do who've been doing that
ship said they are down women. Women don't see miss
signal because y'all niggas are matter want to be the
word sip came up?

Speaker 9 (41:05):
You want to be a sip at nigga to buy
her a.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Drink, Nigga, she don't need your I want to buy
no motherfuckers just a woman. I don't know no motherfucker drink.
If I ain't trying to get no puss it from her,
I want something about that ship. I'mna buy her drink,
by her food, whatever. As long as I get that
motherfucker number, I can talk out of her draws. I
don't give a fuck about all the other bullshit. I'm
gonna get what I want because she got what she won't.
That is that a miss signal that you niggas most
majority of the nigga be doing, or or if I'm

(41:28):
lying a cabin on flying, I jump out this house
right now and fly like a motherfucker bird because y'all
think I'm lying, Because y'all because that shit true like
a motherfucker co men do that ship all the time,
and y'all don't commit to no woman. All y'all niggas
had a woman to hear that y'all should have committed
to him, committed to it been a long, a long
relationship with But y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all see her miss.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
Signal, y'all.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
She thought you loved her, but you left her cause
you cause you see another.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
Woman that you like.

Speaker 12 (41:54):
You know what I'm saying, divorced shoe and then she
gets her.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
Yeah, I look and see that ship.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
But y'all like going up that the voice she all
the time on it out and say she gonna take half.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
Most of you niggas ain't got half shit the ticket
took from.

Speaker 12 (42:11):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Oh man, hey, you even had to say that.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
Bro, Bro, you're trying to hit us slow. But look,
no one listen.

Speaker 18 (42:23):
The tagle isn't do men's send mixed signals, it's who
sends mixed signals more. Yes, you have some men who
send mixed signals, sure, but there is a but they
do what they did a poll it said that what
sixty percent of women, seventy percent of women have admitted

(42:44):
going out with a date just for food.

Speaker 10 (42:47):
That's the height of mixed.

Speaker 12 (42:50):
Right. It's that the.

Speaker 10 (42:53):
What is the whole culture of coffee dates?

Speaker 12 (42:56):
Right?

Speaker 18 (42:56):
When we've had all this big clubhouse arguing about taking
women to cheesecake factory.

Speaker 12 (43:02):
All these men don't want to be around man and
chef by wrest.

Speaker 18 (43:06):
Why do so many men hold back on first, second,
and third dates because the culture of women sending mixed signals.
The reason why a lot of men aren't taking you
to the great dates and going all out in the
beginning to make the first impressions is because men are
now gotten him that a lot of these women ain't

(43:27):
really interested. They just want to be wooed. They just
want to go to the nice restaurant. They just want
to have the nice experience. And so they're giving you
the impression that they're interested to you buying the Beyonce tickets,
thinking that you've got a chance, And the reality is
the woman doesn't have the interest in you the way
a lot of times they portray. That is the height

(43:51):
of mixed signals. If a man, even if a man
just wants some booty, you know he likes you. Men,
you know that he likes you. You don't have to well,
I wonder if he likes you. They got a whole thing.
She loves me, she loves me, not she loves me,
She loves me.

Speaker 12 (44:09):
What is that about.

Speaker 18 (44:11):
It's because women are the queens are mixed signals. Not
to say that we don't send some, but women send
by far, send way more. You got women getting a
rent paid, women going shopping. We have women right as
we speak, somewhere in the world traveling. But a man
that she does not like, she is he is, He

(44:35):
ain't in none of the.

Speaker 17 (44:37):
He hated the video.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
But she's there with this man. John.

Speaker 18 (44:42):
We will not know that that man is paying for
the trip because she doesn't really like that man, but
she likes what he can provise.

Speaker 9 (44:50):
That is a mixed Can we have a dialogue?

Speaker 12 (44:55):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (44:56):
So, so that man that you just said that they
sending any women out of town, she don't like him.

Speaker 9 (45:04):
Do you think who fault is it?

Speaker 7 (45:08):
He is about trying to pay all this money trying
to impress her, or her fault because she went on
the chip because he offered to go to it.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Which one.

Speaker 18 (45:17):
It's both of it's both of their fault. He's a sucker.
He's a sucker because he's spending a whole bunch of
money on them, right, And she is a manipulator because
she making that man think that it's more serious than
it is, which is why he took her to Boley
in the first guy.

Speaker 12 (45:36):
And that's her lifestyle too, all right? So yeah, so
is he a simple? But to the topic of the
room you're talking? But to the top, so is he
a simple?

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Is he?

Speaker 12 (45:53):
Is he blameless?

Speaker 14 (45:54):
No?

Speaker 10 (45:55):
Should he be?

Speaker 12 (45:56):
As a grown man complaining, No, some ship? You just
got that? Like like the homies say, nigga, some ship.

Speaker 18 (46:02):
You gotta charge it to the game, right, you just
gotta charge it to the charge it to the game.
But to the title of the room, who gets more
mixed signs?

Speaker 9 (46:15):
I think so, John?

Speaker 7 (46:16):
So, so if you what you just said, right, so
that man for to bring her fly cross seas and
take her out of town.

Speaker 9 (46:27):
What is that man expecting from her?

Speaker 12 (46:29):
When do you do that?

Speaker 18 (46:32):
Well, hopefully he gets some. But I got homegirls, and
I'm sure all of YouTube and I know you women,
y'all know what I'm talking about. I've got homegirls that
have been on trips with men and stayed in separate rooms.
I'm not really ready. It's okay, we can stay in
separate rooms, but you can bring your homegirl. Because the

(46:55):
nigga hoping that he convinces you on the trip. Sometimes
he's able to con sometimes he's able to convince you.
Sometimes he's not.

Speaker 9 (47:05):
I got it, I got I got you, John, I
got you.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
Just you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 17 (47:11):
You know what's going.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
That's what they get though, because he wanted to.

Speaker 7 (47:18):
He want to impress her, So that's a his fat
you know, damn well, that conversation between us when we
already had, when we'll be in here, I'm not fna
just sit for somebody out of town that just because
I want to fuck man, We're gonna have that conversation
from day one.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
I'm specting.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
I'm forna get this before we hit the fuck before
we hit over them.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
Se what what a man miss up?

Speaker 6 (47:39):
He thinking?

Speaker 9 (47:39):
Ifter a fly across the ain't get in the.

Speaker 17 (47:45):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
He ain't lying real quick, real quick, quick, real quick, Jonathan, Jonathan,
real quick. If y'all are just joining with the gender wars,
we're talking about who gives the most mixed mixed signals.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Men or women.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
If you guys can on the pole, that'll be cool
so we can get down to this ship. You understand,
like we want to know who gives the most mixed
signals paint the.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Room out, share the room out.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I'll also be sharing the Telegram links in the chat
four hundred side freaking I r L group chat, our
group chat.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Anybody that would you see us.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Rock with make sure you chap in with them aside,
But who gives the most mixed signals?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Men and women talking about right now? Who wants to
jump in next to.

Speaker 12 (48:24):
Answer that question?

Speaker 29 (48:25):
Man, I feel like women are more emotional and like
we're we have like eighty AHD you have you have
to be able to with hold our attention and and
you know what I'm saying, we get we get bored
with the sex is cool, but we get bored with
it and like we start wanting something more like a

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like a sore highly intelligent woman, she gotta have this, this, this,
But a lot of times, like the women, she just
doesn't end up meeting no standards. So we're like on
this constant, on this con to pursue for this ideal woman.

Speaker 19 (49:08):
So I wanted to go back to something that Jonathan
said when he was talking about going on this trip,
and Hawes asked, well, what was the reason why he
invited her, and he said, well, hopefully he gets some asks. Well,
Why did he communicate to her that he wanted some
ass before he took her on that trip?

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Is that not the same thing?

Speaker 19 (49:24):
But I was saying that the women were doing when
the men was buying the drinks and entertaining.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
But look, here's.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
How much how much of this bullshit I got listened to?
How much?

Speaker 12 (49:37):
How much?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Down?

Speaker 5 (49:41):
You know what time? Will shut your big fat, black
fucking mouse.

Speaker 12 (49:45):
You know what time is a woman out on the
order get a hotel. All that she was talking about,
she know what time it is?

Speaker 10 (49:56):
What she wanted to play pity pat.

Speaker 12 (50:00):
The woman.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Hey baby, I'm gonna get you this hotel.

Speaker 12 (50:07):
I want to pop that pussy. I want you to
pop that pussy for a real nigga.

Speaker 19 (50:11):
The same reason why they seem to think that they
have to be told that a woman is not interested
if she ain't sending no choosing signals, say a freaking reason.

Speaker 12 (50:20):
Women to drink. The woman's supposed to say no, I'm okay,
I'm good. That's that's.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
That's just it.

Speaker 10 (50:27):
I don't want to hear that ship.

Speaker 9 (50:29):
Don't want that ship.

Speaker 12 (50:29):
How I was talking about, No, they didn't. They're not
gonna turn down to drink. No bitch, excuse my langua.
I'm sorry. I mean to say that.

Speaker 10 (50:36):
No, you, I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 12 (50:41):
No, goddamn just from that man, same thing in the bar.

Speaker 25 (50:45):
If you're not if you're not going to give no
ass up, if you're not gonna give him play, say no,
you got your own.

Speaker 12 (50:50):
God damn money boy, you god damn drinks.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Are we chatting in here?

Speaker 19 (50:53):
But if you buying a drink for Coochie, why not
just say Hey, I'm buying this drink because I want
to see your vagina.

Speaker 12 (51:00):
This is crazy.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
This is crazy. I'm just saying, and before tell him,
before he buys, you're not going to see it.

Speaker 19 (51:11):
I think with that, if more men live with honesty,
y'all would see a whole lot of different results.

Speaker 27 (51:18):
But y'all be lying.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I think honest the truth.

Speaker 12 (51:23):
Baby, you gotta treat him like I think both should
be truthful.

Speaker 30 (51:31):
What means, wait, so should we assume? Should we assume
that any man wants Now you just have some.

Speaker 11 (51:39):
Ballers in the world who want to buy everybody a dreams.

Speaker 30 (51:41):
I'm not every woman that you have bought a drink
for you wanted to sleep with.

Speaker 12 (51:46):
Her every yes, every time a man said you a drink?
He mean he won't send you next you. That's what
that means.

Speaker 8 (51:53):
Really drink?

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Yeah yeah, that's what does it mean?

Speaker 21 (52:00):
Ugly women drinks or something just to be buying and
we live family, we live friends drinks for come on, man,
be for y'all know.

Speaker 30 (52:09):
Yeah they the intelligent man okay.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
Like they do it all.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
I mean eventually, you know, eventually he wants to you know,
he see you in that type of way. Basically what
we're saying, come on, man, thank you, he won't see
you next you.

Speaker 19 (52:23):
So I have a question for the women that are
on the stage and in the room. Could you put
a heart emoji or something like that. If a man
has ever purchased you a drink and has not requested
your a vaginant.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
That doesn't mean them brought a drink And I didn't
even see his face.

Speaker 31 (52:39):
So stop, I don't even know where here.

Speaker 12 (52:42):
Here's the point. We're not talking about your home.

Speaker 11 (52:45):
Not talking about homeboys.

Speaker 19 (52:46):
We talking about strangers, maties.

Speaker 18 (52:52):
Listen, listen, listen. I'm not talking about a friend, your
homeboy in college. Uh you know due you went to college.
If a stranger is buying you a drink, it's because
of time. He's attracted to you. That's why we buy
women drinks. That's why not every woman in the bar

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is getting drinks sent over. It's not, oh, you get
a drink, and you get a drink, and you don't
get a drink and you're a woman, you get a
n No, that's.

Speaker 12 (53:20):
Not how it goes.

Speaker 27 (53:22):
Yes, that is how it goes.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
In your head.

Speaker 12 (53:27):
That's how I go.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
Listen.

Speaker 19 (53:31):
I have had men walk up, put money in my hand, say,
buy y'all some drinks, walk off.

Speaker 13 (53:37):
I never saw that man again.

Speaker 12 (53:39):
That was only one man.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
That was only one man, one man.

Speaker 10 (53:42):
I said, because he's attracted to you.

Speaker 14 (53:46):
No.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
See, here's here's what you're missing.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
I mean, nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 10 (53:51):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 19 (53:52):
Here's what you're missing, Jonathan. There was no conversation, there
was no my name is, There was no ocean after,
no phone numbers exchange, no nothing. They're literally just out
buying drinks.

Speaker 18 (54:05):
He wasn't buying everybody a drink, ma'am. There's a whole
bunch of women in that bar didn't get no drink.

Speaker 12 (54:16):
Why did you do?

Speaker 32 (54:17):
You're showing an interest the first time, right, because you
don't know if you really want to get in bed
with her after you talk to her, like you take
a second date. Because not every woman that looks attractive
to you at the bar is somebody that you're got
to be more interested in.

Speaker 30 (54:31):
Is that right?

Speaker 18 (54:31):
That's true? Now, you're exactly right. But my really my
point is, and the ladies, y'all not naive because when
you're in the bar, or you're in the lounge, or
you're getting special attention, you're you're old enough to understand.
Not all the women are getting drinks bought for them.
When you go to the club and you go in,
some women are standing in line. Not everybody's over there

(54:54):
in bottle service and in sections, there's some women standing
up right. There is a thing called what pretty privilege.
And if you're a pretty girl and your social experiences
are different than other women, let's not act like every
woman has the same social experience.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
But that doesn't mean that.

Speaker 11 (55:14):
That doesn't mean that the man want to take you
home and lay you down.

Speaker 12 (55:17):
He just want to be means it means that, but
it means that men are attracted to.

Speaker 30 (55:24):
Answer.

Speaker 32 (55:25):
I'd like to answer the question in the room from
what Jonathan just said, Definitely men give mixed messages way
more than women because how he mixed it up was
like this, guys, so he said, like every man who
buys you a drink wants to get in your pants
or he wants to see you naked.

Speaker 25 (55:42):
Right.

Speaker 32 (55:43):
But then when we asked further and said, well, do
you want to sleep with every woman you better drink
for he said no, So that right there is a contradiction.
So absolutely, yeah, absolutely, men give more mix.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
We do that same thing when women talk, y'all all
do the same dance.

Speaker 21 (56:03):
You can find that in anybody when they talk, they're
gonna say something one minute and then they're gonna come back.

Speaker 12 (56:07):
So that's not the point. But I'm gonna sell this
right here.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
When I've done that before, the reason why I've done it,
it wasn't about them. It was about the people that
was watching. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (56:16):
So I do believe that I agree with you that
people will do that, But when I did it, it
wasn't about them.

Speaker 12 (56:22):
It was about the people that was watching.

Speaker 30 (56:26):
Okay, So I'd like to say a little further.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Signals thank you, yeah yeah yeah, drink your.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Walkdown yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I did that.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
Answer your question.

Speaker 18 (56:42):
Man, Listen, when when you're young and dumb, and yeah,
you might be buying the drink just to try to
get As you get older and you have a little
bit more to lose, you may not just be trying
to hit and not know who the hell you're hitting.
But you buy the drink because it's an entree to

(57:03):
a conversation. It's an andre and they're trying to get
to know you because I'm attracted to you. If a
man buys you a drink, you know he is interested.
There is no if ins butts about it then. But
most men ain't buying no drinks just to buy a drink.

Speaker 32 (57:19):
Okay, Jonathan, So just because you bout her drink does
not mean she's gonna you're basically assuming that she's gonna
show you nakedness.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
No, no, okay, I said that.

Speaker 12 (57:29):
I said that earlier.

Speaker 18 (57:31):
It's hold on, It's not about just accepting the drink, right,
I said that earlier. Yes, if a man just sends
you over a drink or buys you a drink, hey,
thank you. That's not a mixed message. But what we
find in a lot of social situations is that the
women are milking it and they're entertaining it, because usually

(57:53):
a lot of times you smile the drink, don't just
stop thedn't The men come over and introduce themselves. And
then a lot of times women are cheeking in and
they're smiling, and he's buying or they are buying you
and your friends drinks all night, and you guys are smiling,
you're entertaining it. The men think that the conversation's going right,
the chemistry is right, the wine is right, the mood

(58:15):
is right, the light is like knowing the whole time. Maroni,
you have a man at home, and you don't plan
on talking to that man tomorrow, bet alone going to
lunch with him. But we are having drinks, and we
are being treated VIP, and we are sitting in the sections,
and we may even go oufter breakfast with these men,

(58:36):
and we will never see these men again. And this
happens all the time in the United States of the sill.

Speaker 32 (58:46):
If you have the skills, you will close the deal
and ask her for a second date and a third date.
And furthermore so, women at heart were like, Okay, there's
a nice guy, and then you know, obviously she's not
interested in you. And if she doesn't like you, she's
not gonna go on a date. But at the end
of the day, if she's not going out on a
date on with you, because maybe she's not attracted to

(59:07):
you the way you are attracted to her.

Speaker 30 (59:09):
This is a It's like a dance, don't you think, Jonathan,
this is a dance. You liked her, she thinks you're pretty,
or she's pretty. You sent her a drink.

Speaker 10 (59:18):
I don't understand. I give you, I give you the drink.

Speaker 18 (59:24):
My thing is and and and everyone in here that
goes out, y'all know what I'm talking about. There are
women that will spend the evening. It might be a
group of three women and the men. It might be
three men, and they will spend the evening. Let the
men buy them.

Speaker 12 (59:39):
Drinks, entertain their flirt.

Speaker 10 (59:42):
The men are being flirty, the women are flirting back.

Speaker 18 (59:46):
And women have either not interested in the men but
still flirting, or have a situation and no, damn well,
they're not gonna follow through because they're not available. But yeah,
that they're giving off single lady energy, or they're giving
off energy that they're interested. And listen, and I'm not listen.

(01:00:09):
We're grown men. So I'm not gonna say, oh, well,
they took advantage of us.

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 18 (01:00:13):
I'm not trying to, you know, play victim here. He's
a grown man. They spend their money how they want
to spend it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.
But to the title of the conversation, who's sending out
mixed messages? I think that women send them out by
far more than men, because it's women are playing coy

(01:00:34):
and flirting all the time. If a man's flirting with you,
he's interested in you. If a man's taking you out,
he's interested in you. If a man's buying drinks, he's
interested in you. If a man buys you presents, he's
interested in you. If women, they can accept all these
things and still not be interested in you. It is

(01:00:55):
the crux of mixed messages. That's all I'm trying to say.

Speaker 32 (01:01:04):
I mean, I don't want to hold on how the mic,
but I'll say this, Jonathan, you're sending her a drink. Okay,
that's a normal behavior for you know, social events, Like
she's beautiful, you like her, So by accepting it, she's
sending a mixed message to you or not. That's my
number one question after that. If you talk to her

(01:01:26):
and there's chemistry, you guys go.

Speaker 30 (01:01:28):
Further and further. That is like the quoting behavior. How
could that be a mixed message?

Speaker 32 (01:01:35):
When she's accepting your drink, she's trying to see if
she has more with you. That is not a mixed message.
She's still allowing you to be in her presence. I
don't understand how she's sending a mixed message.

Speaker 18 (01:01:46):
Because Maroni, listen, if it was as Vanilla is what
you say, and no, that's not a mixed message. But
you just now said the word. She's allowing you to
court her. She's accepting your presence. You're buying multiple dreams.
You guys are laughing and flirting with each other. And
if she was just trying to determine if she was

(01:02:09):
interested or not, and absolutely not. But a lot of
times these women know from the beginning, he's not her title.
These women know from the beginning they got a man
at home.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
Listen.

Speaker 18 (01:02:23):
I've owned nightclubs since I was twenty three. I cannot
tell and I own the club, so I know the girls.
I cannot tell you how many married women and women
that are in whole relationships that are in the club
on the weekend, being wooed, courted and laughing and joking

(01:02:43):
and letting men spend enormous amounts of money on them
that they never plan on following up with.

Speaker 12 (01:02:51):
Now a's a club, own her. I'm not saying nothing.

Speaker 18 (01:02:53):
I'm happy letting men buy you drinks, babe, let them
buy bottles, no problem. But I see how a lot
of women move, and some of these women, it doesn't
matter if the guy was indriz Elba and you know,
and that's being extreme.

Speaker 12 (01:03:10):
These women are taking.

Speaker 18 (01:03:12):
These women have husbands, but they enjoying their attention and
they're enjoying the free drinks. And that's why men have
to be careful when you're out there just willing, nearly
buying drinks and taking women to But that's a whole
nother conversation because a lot of these women ain't really single,
and a lot of these women ain't really interested in you.

(01:03:34):
They're just interested in what you can do for them.
And that's why there is mixed signals, Maroni. They're not
really interested. It doesn't matter if the game is great
or the chemistry's great. Either they're not interested or worse,
they're taken.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
And that happens.

Speaker 33 (01:03:50):
Well, I do want to say that, I do want
to admit that what he's saying is true.

Speaker 11 (01:03:55):
I live in a city where a lot of women,
and yes, it is true.

Speaker 34 (01:04:00):
Whether we want to admit it or not.

Speaker 13 (01:04:02):
A woman already know ill not him.

Speaker 11 (01:04:04):
Oh he got a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
First rip okay, so let's go.

Speaker 33 (01:04:18):
So basically we know if we smell money, we already
know if you got money, and if we don't know,
it'll take five minutes. We'll find out whether you stingy
or whether you're given, if you get if you stingy.
Especially in the city, a lot of men got their
feelings hurt. I can't speak for everywhere else. I'm saying

(01:04:38):
city girls. That's why they made the move, the different
solid city girls running because we will run, get your
money and go. So basically, now I can't I can't
speak for every otherbody else, but I could say this
married women is in the clubs, husband's coming. They would
come back home and give the husbands some money. So basically,

(01:04:58):
if a woman, a woman knows when she gonna sleep
with him and never see him again. So easy to say, oh, yes, baby,
I love you, Yes, the sex is good, Get up,
and go that's for the city now, whether they want
to admit it or not.

Speaker 10 (01:05:10):
I'm fifty one years old.

Speaker 33 (01:05:11):
I look like I don't even look my age, and
I have turned. It took me to get older to say, hey,
let's stop playing this game. All women know whether or
not soon as you glance. We could smile and say,
oh hell nah. But then you turn around and you
BArch and you give us a drink.

Speaker 10 (01:05:31):
We gonna take that. Well.

Speaker 33 (01:05:32):
I don't drink, but they buy me sodas and we
say stuff like, oh my god, he's a nice man.

Speaker 26 (01:05:37):
I guess I can be with him.

Speaker 33 (01:05:39):
Sometimes we do charity work and just stay with the
god we're not interested in for that night and they
never see him again. Now, he's right, we should tell
the truth. We got a man at home, baby daddy,
crazy as hell. Five minutes he coming through. You know,
I gotta hurt or get out of here. Somebody that
bought me a drink. He is telling the truth. And
I don't know if y'all want to put that in

(01:06:00):
the category of of responsible women are irresponsible after a
woman drinks?

Speaker 11 (01:06:08):
And is she is?

Speaker 33 (01:06:09):
Should she take caountability after she drinks? Well, doctors say
after a woman drink to the point where she start
telling like being so drunk to where she you know,
out of it, then it's the men's fault because they
thought they were gonna get with her.

Speaker 11 (01:06:22):
So it can go, it can.

Speaker 13 (01:06:24):
Really go both ways.

Speaker 33 (01:06:26):
But a sober woman right now, I could tell you,
if they meet you in person, whether they want to
be with you or not, period, point blank. And that's
for the key privileged women, low self esteem women. They
might fall in love with you and one day, who's knows.
But the pretty privileged women, we already well they I'm
not pretty any more like that. But but I'm sullivant.

(01:06:48):
I'm into this christ thing now. But I've had, I got,
I got nine kids. I'm gonna write a book about it.
I ain't even finish that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
No, no, no, no, that's why.

Speaker 11 (01:06:58):
I we ain't even talk, and I'm going to land
my plane.

Speaker 33 (01:07:01):
So yes, yeah, pretty girl privilege now and I still
pull twenty three.

Speaker 34 (01:07:07):
Oh, come show you y'all have that it. I'm just
saying telling you, y'all, yo, she's still yo.

Speaker 17 (01:07:25):
Let him know.

Speaker 12 (01:07:26):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Jonathan answer the new topic, because somebody do a reset, please.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
With most women say if men stop paying for a date.
That is the new topic. Let's jump in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Let's pick the room out to hell.

Speaker 12 (01:07:49):
Let's go, let's talk about hell.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Stay, stay with the person, stay with the men, stay
in the situation, and stay with the religationship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Let's talk about it. Open popcorn.

Speaker 20 (01:08:04):
If it's a relationship, stax. Absolutely, I mean, that's her man,
she don't mind. But even in the beginning stages, some
women don't mind. I feel like when a woman really
likes you, she's gonna she's gonna pay a little bit,
you know, she she don't mind.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
That's her way of saying I like you. So yeah,
they're they'll pay a little bit. Okay, if he stopped paying,
If he stops paying that, who's gonna do that? Absolutely not.

Speaker 12 (01:08:45):
At least you tell the truth now.

Speaker 11 (01:08:49):
I mean, if this, if this is my husband's tax
I guess we're just.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Not going no, damn where why? I guess I'm just gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Get some candles for the house, you know something, we.

Speaker 14 (01:09:06):
Just go.

Speaker 20 (01:09:06):
We're just gonna cook and you know, turn the lights down, load,
sit at the table, the cando.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
I mean, that's that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Walks in the park, These.

Speaker 12 (01:09:14):
Women right here.

Speaker 18 (01:09:18):
These black women got all this money. They done been
fighting for the last thirty five years for equal rights.
These women got opening up business. The highest number of
entrepreneurs open up businesses Black women.

Speaker 12 (01:09:34):
They educated at a rate of two or three times
the black men.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
Cand of light dinners at the table, biggest.

Speaker 18 (01:09:40):
Group of homeowners. So these women, it's twenty twenty five.
These black women got all this money, all these cars,
all this real estate. And these women, boy, they hate
to open up that person.

Speaker 12 (01:09:51):
Boy, that for it, you ain't here be getting. I
don't go for it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
But y'all, y'all can have them type of women.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
If she don't do any anything, that means she just.

Speaker 12 (01:10:03):
Says, I don't like you.

Speaker 21 (01:10:04):
Like I keep telling dudes that I don't care what
these women say on that alp brother, I don't care
how pretty or how ugly, how fast high skin.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
If your woman getting money and she not giving you nothing.

Speaker 21 (01:10:17):
She don't like you, brother, Cause it ain't that you
gotta asking big and trying to get nothing out of women.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Just do they give hes naturally, whatever they love, they
gonna give to it. Whatever they heart is, they definitely
gonna get their money to it. So if she not
giving you money.

Speaker 12 (01:10:32):
Bru, she getting money.

Speaker 21 (01:10:33):
Ain't talking about the struggling woman, the single mama who
you dating. You think she supposed to give you something?

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
She got kids. I'm talking about the woman who can
give you some money if she got it, and she
not doing it.

Speaker 12 (01:10:43):
Know this, she don't like you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
You had a single mama still pulling up with something.

Speaker 12 (01:10:49):
Yeah, those single mamas.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
It don't sound right and it definitely ain't hurt.

Speaker 21 (01:10:54):
But when or if she really likes you, shoot, she'll
start putting you before them kids.

Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
Damn you. I'm just gonna be real.

Speaker 21 (01:11:03):
I'm not saying she should, but I'm just that when
a woman, when a woman really like a man, bro Man,
I'm telling you all this stuff I be hanging, it
won't go down. So these women don't really like y'all.
Stunning said stop paying for dates. She said, they just
gonna be cooking and watching Netflix.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Wait, I wait, back up.

Speaker 12 (01:11:28):
We're good, Sonny, y'all got all this money you can
pay for the day.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
She looks like she gonna pay for the day. Yeah,
she looked like she's a good woman.

Speaker 21 (01:11:39):
She just like the talking and content content content money
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I see we got some more sters coming in here.
They follow here, Yo, I want to, I want to.
I want to talk about this ship though, pick the
room up, share the room up? Would most women stay
if men stop paying for dates? Thank you guys for
joining the Gender Wars house. If you got a pink ticket,
cash that ship into so that way you can be
a part of this. We also got the poll at
the top. I want to see what you guys think

(01:12:05):
so we can get to the bottom of it before
the before the topee changes again. But let's talk about
this topic open popcorn style. Think you guys for coming up.

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
Lisa, I have a question. I'm doing great.

Speaker 35 (01:12:17):
My daughter just accepted their offer as a teacher. My
baby girls fantastic.

Speaker 12 (01:12:23):
Okay, fellas they coming in here.

Speaker 10 (01:12:26):
We gotta get ready, Okay, I'm trying to figure. I'm
trying to.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
Relax.

Speaker 35 (01:12:38):
Relax, Okay, relaxed. Okay, what most of them stay? You say,
stay for the date or the duration of relationship?

Speaker 12 (01:12:45):
Don't get the watch?

Speaker 10 (01:12:47):
Which I mean, which one? Will most of them stay?

Speaker 36 (01:12:49):
At?

Speaker 10 (01:12:49):
Mansta?

Speaker 35 (01:12:50):
I mean this is how I feel if you asked
me out on any day, you if the man should
pay for it? If I asked you out, on the day,
I'm going to pay for it. So these type of
conversations are weird to me.

Speaker 11 (01:13:02):
I paid for days up to ass don't regret it,
and it's not a big fucking deal. What's y'all motherfuckers
be doing?

Speaker 10 (01:13:12):
Shall be looking up with some Hong revengues.

Speaker 12 (01:13:14):
I seen.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
You.

Speaker 18 (01:13:18):
But here's the question, if you were in a relationship,
If you were in a relationship, all of a sudden
your man stopped paying for the days, but you stay
in the relationship.

Speaker 35 (01:13:29):
Yeah, he might be going through hard times. I'm gonna
leave my man because he can't pay for a date
and win in a relationship. Why I man gotta be
more to it. I know he just liked you know,
but I ain't taking this bitch, y'all no more.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
We ain't never again.

Speaker 21 (01:13:47):
But that's the reason why people have all these experiences,
because they chasing women who really don't like them. I
never really experienced this because I don't chase women who
I have to chase.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
I chase, I track, I don't chase. So if y'all
stop chasing women who who y'all just trying to get
to like y'all, y'all want experience this type of stuff
like y.

Speaker 11 (01:14:10):
Y'all be weirding me out of ship with so many questions.

Speaker 10 (01:14:12):
I'll be like, what, Wow, who's gonna leave that man?
Because they stop taking them out on days?

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
Women?

Speaker 10 (01:14:17):
Black women put up with whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Where are you from?

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Elegant we put we put way more.

Speaker 10 (01:14:27):
Women put up with women.

Speaker 35 (01:14:29):
Let me put up with men about kids, home and
bit and still there so they ain't.

Speaker 12 (01:14:35):
See.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
I think this is I think it's some good women.

Speaker 21 (01:14:39):
I thank y'all men up north taking y'all women for granted,
and y'all need to sit them down here.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Louise done in Texas? Your feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
To do?

Speaker 35 (01:14:49):
What create?

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
That was?

Speaker 19 (01:14:55):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:14:55):
That was there?

Speaker 12 (01:14:56):
That was that was wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Elegant now pot giants.

Speaker 10 (01:15:02):
But I'm just having some fun this evening.

Speaker 35 (01:15:04):
You know, Like I said, I don't see too many
women leaving they guys because they stop taking them out
on dates.

Speaker 10 (01:15:10):
I mean, are they going through some financial issues? You know,
some emotional issues? You know what's going on? Because if
you're in a relationship a while, y'all.

Speaker 35 (01:15:19):
Not gonna be dating like that out like that every
day any dawn because y'all ground y'all bills to pay
ship to do.

Speaker 8 (01:15:26):
You know, I'm not gonna leave you initially, but I'm
not gonna stay for that. My god, it's obviously something
wrong if he was doing it at hers and he
just all of a sudden stops like what.

Speaker 13 (01:15:42):
Let's get to the root issue. Okay, surface level, who
made this topic.

Speaker 18 (01:15:47):
I'm gonna get to the root issues. Y'all eating too
much shrimps. He's now trying to save somebody.

Speaker 12 (01:15:53):
That's what it is. Too much shrimp, too much seafood.
Power was as crazy ass. That's what happened when y'all
get with women.

Speaker 10 (01:16:04):
But I thought it myself, no foods.

Speaker 11 (01:16:11):
I'll save the expensive ship for me, I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
But have you not taken me out? I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:16:19):
We're gonna be in here soon. Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:16:27):
I like to go out, but I know I have
common sense enough to know now I haven't been everywhere
in the world, so I do try to remind myself.

Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
You've only been in Louisiana and Texas Field. You know,
you've only been to Louisiana and.

Speaker 12 (01:16:42):
But you know, man, listen half of this stuff. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
I know the women that I know, they'll talk just
like these women talking.

Speaker 21 (01:16:51):
But when when they get with that right, guy, Cuz
many it be a whole different ball game.

Speaker 12 (01:16:56):
They come in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Maybe I seen this shirt, I seen these shoes today.
I've seen this at the store. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't be nothing. That's what y'all guys. Okay, no mind,
this ain't what the room about. I'm gonna leave that alone,
gonna keep doing that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
Angel, Angel, Are you the goat on your other profile?
Oh no, no, no, no, I don't have another profile. Okay,
we got your twin brothers to becoming.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Now my old my old profile was filtered.

Speaker 12 (01:17:26):
Okay, we got a brother in South just like you.
He said, the same stuff you do. His need is
to go.

Speaker 17 (01:17:33):
I thought.

Speaker 18 (01:17:35):
Proctor doctor D's leaving.

Speaker 37 (01:17:43):
Yeah, she said, I don't think that a lot of
people are well, I think that y'all are being genuine
too what y'all feel. But we've heard women, so you
gotta take them on three hundred dollar days, they are
in fact believing. I mean, their bags are packed faster
than to plate at the restaurants they go to. Okay,
so I know some of the women in here, the

(01:18:03):
genuine women. Yeah, y'all might say, these women have told
y'all to y'all.

Speaker 30 (01:18:08):
Faith, they're not even dating a man that go to Chells.

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
So I know for a fact we don't even gott
to be Chills.

Speaker 13 (01:18:15):
It could just be he ain't going on.

Speaker 37 (01:18:17):
She in fact is leaving, but I know we got
some genuine women in her. But this is also gender wars,
and we know the truth. So some of these ladies
are leaving, But some of y'all ladies have stayed for less,
so you know, it's it's a given take unfortunately, but
some of them.

Speaker 13 (01:18:33):
I've stayed for less, and that's why I don't That's
why I ain't staying down right.

Speaker 30 (01:18:38):
But what Angel said is correct.

Speaker 32 (01:18:41):
What Angel said is correct if you like, if you
like the man, I guess it depends at what time
of your life, because if you have your life straight
and you're like, you know, I mean, because you start
dating differently. Because you start dating differently, you don't date
for that medle. You don't date for the money. You
date the genuine like if you're dating genuinely about because

(01:19:06):
I think like the likeness, liking one another and kind
of like the attraction, the intelligence. I mean, you start
to go on non eating dates, not none money dates.
Then the connection is right there. So at that level,
because if you like the man, you're attracted to him,
and you're talking to him like that magnetic connection for

(01:19:28):
a long period of time, you don't care if he's
quote unquote paying for dates, but because of the magnetic connection,
he will court you differently anyway. But I feel sad
for the women that are dating for money if he
has money, if he doesn't have money like that, because
now you're not even really dating him for him, you're
really dating him for the money. That dinner you could

(01:19:51):
make better dinner, Yeah, you can make a better dinner
at home.

Speaker 30 (01:19:54):
So that's all I'm saying, Like, I know women who
are not dating.

Speaker 32 (01:19:59):
For the stupid day and stuff, but they're actually dating
for this amazing, attractive, manly man who's like, who would
just treat you like you are the queen in that time?
Just to even a date without that money involved is
so much deeper, the conversation, the walks and all that.
I know men like that they're not trying to like

(01:20:20):
woo you with their money because they know you have
all your stuff down. That is a better connection with
men than dinner. Dude, Like, you could cook better dinner
than the restaurants most of the time, so I know
women will stay. Those kind of women will stay no
matter you're paying or not, because they're actually searching for you,

(01:20:40):
not for your money.

Speaker 24 (01:20:42):
Muranie.

Speaker 37 (01:20:42):
Some of them people, and I hope I say their
name right. Sorry, correct me if I'm AMRANI.

Speaker 30 (01:20:48):
Yeah, yeah, what you're saying just correctly.

Speaker 37 (01:20:50):
Okay, No, no, all, I just want to make sure
didn't butcher your name. Some of these women can't cool,
not the ones in her really, that's why they want
to go all these dates to eat because they cannot cook.
So we have to th old women too, how they
gonna stand there? So if they stay in the house,
everybody losing away, the kids, the boyfriend them. I'm just wondering.

Speaker 24 (01:21:19):
But you know what, I like that my good sister
Olivia says she is leaving.

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
She made a good point too, lady.

Speaker 13 (01:21:24):
So she said she made good money so she can
pay for some dates.

Speaker 37 (01:21:29):
Why didn't she Why wouldn't she want reciprocity. I think
that's a good question to pose because I mean, I
guess if you are paying for dates and he's not
paying no board.

Speaker 9 (01:21:39):
Y'all still don't care.

Speaker 24 (01:21:39):
If y'all just doing it, or y'all just saying faste.

Speaker 21 (01:21:43):
That's but listen, so watch this. What if that's the
love of your life though? Like, what is just the
dude that will die for you? Here for you and
your kids are doing anything walk in the cold for you?
Like so, so what about that guy? It don't even matter?

Speaker 38 (01:21:58):
How is he not doing this anymore because of some
financial issue?

Speaker 8 (01:22:06):
I don't know what it is, and that's something we
can't or you just choosing not to like She's like, nah,
I don't agree with the dates anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:22:13):
I'm not gonna spend my money there anymore. So I'm
not doing it anymore.

Speaker 12 (01:22:17):
You know, y'all eating too much?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
They have.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
That date is not food y'all, Come on.

Speaker 12 (01:22:22):
Now, you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
Eat food when it generations that's gonna just die like this.

Speaker 12 (01:22:29):
Right, just you know, good and will.

Speaker 18 (01:22:31):
Some of y'all live in these major cities, y'all be
wanting to go to the spot at the happy hour,
the sushi. Y'all want to go to the Lucky Strikes,
the ipack movie with expensive movies.

Speaker 12 (01:22:44):
You know what I'm saying. Y'all know y'all be wanting
to go on these.

Speaker 21 (01:22:46):
Experiences, experiences, experience you know the word that be saying.
Now I want a yeah South girl era. They won't
be no side, but they big gangsters though, punching, and
I don't get it. I'll be telling okay, I'm glad

(01:23:08):
you brought that up, though, I'm gonna make this quick though.
I'll be telling women though, Man, you gotta choose a
side though. You can't be a big gangster. Didn't want
to be treated like a princess.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
Like you can't be talking to that man and you
know you big tough guy like him, and then it
just don't work like that.

Speaker 12 (01:23:22):
Man, I just want to throw that in.

Speaker 14 (01:23:23):
No.

Speaker 24 (01:23:25):
Yeah, man, uh, women aren't at home.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
I'm soft.

Speaker 26 (01:23:30):
If they're going with y'all, they're not living a soft life.

Speaker 24 (01:23:33):
Let's get over that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Lisa want the picture of Lisa.

Speaker 10 (01:23:42):
If a woman ain't busting down for.

Speaker 12 (01:23:44):
You, hold on, I gotta know what we non mind
make a man great again.

Speaker 39 (01:23:52):
If she ain't willing to bust down on the first
meet up, I mean, she really don't like it like that.

Speaker 12 (01:23:56):
She is just that's just old with the thing.

Speaker 39 (01:23:58):
I'll be I'm hearing with the and the conversation is this,
Uh how many how many days do y'all expect to
go on like, let's just say a month's time if
you in a situation or a relationship with somebody.

Speaker 37 (01:24:14):
I was in another room and they said the budget
that a man should put together is about twelve thousand
dollars for the entire.

Speaker 24 (01:24:21):
Year to go on dates. That's what I heard in
your other room to day.

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
What listen, listen, listen though you're talking about being being
out there dating or dating your woman still while y'all
in a relationship.

Speaker 12 (01:24:34):
What y'all talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
Yeah, that's that's I do that for my woman.

Speaker 30 (01:24:38):
You might as well buy some land for her.

Speaker 12 (01:24:42):
Yeah, but I'm smart, she's smart.

Speaker 10 (01:24:46):
Yeah, but I'm gonna keep it a stack. That ain't enough.

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
What thousand boy said that? You said it ain't in
a third hoonger?

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Well, y'all be tricking right crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:24:56):
Though, hold on, im boy said twelve five things? Another no,
but whatever, I'm not, I'm being no.

Speaker 18 (01:25:02):
I get it, like y'all, I don't twelve thousand a year,
twelve thousand a years, a thousand dollars a month.

Speaker 12 (01:25:10):
You don't spend on thousands of dollars a month.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
You and your woman, everybody don't go out on days
like that. While they're in a relationship, they don't they
no more.

Speaker 21 (01:25:20):
Why, Yeah, that's the problem when once they start dating,
I mean, once they start staying together, they hide each other.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Nine.

Speaker 12 (01:25:27):
Yeah, you can spend a thousand. You can spend a
thousand on the weekend. That's just easy.

Speaker 32 (01:25:33):
But maybe that's why people are like, once there's no
more money, they just leave each other.

Speaker 30 (01:25:39):
That's crazy.

Speaker 36 (01:25:40):
Crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:25:41):
Listen and now listen, I'm not I'm not talking about
no tricking. You can't do no tricking on a thousand
dollars a month. I'm talking about some.

Speaker 18 (01:25:49):
Real You and your girl go to happy hour, go
see your movie, go bowling, go to.

Speaker 12 (01:25:55):
Brunch, go to dinner.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
They're bout five hundred dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:26:00):
Yeah, that's about five hundred dollars. I might, Yeah, nigga,
I don't.

Speaker 18 (01:26:04):
Some of y'all don't go outside because you can spend
two it's easy to spend two fifty.

Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
Quick. Put it this way.

Speaker 18 (01:26:12):
You can spend one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty
dollars a cheesecake factory. Yes, sir, by the time you
if you pay for parking, leave a tip, and you
and your girl have a Drink Advertiser and Entree the
Cheesecake Factor.

Speaker 10 (01:26:26):
You were around one fifty probably a little bit, and.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
Then you're gonna tip good, right, I hope you're gonna
tip good Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:26:34):
Who.

Speaker 24 (01:26:35):
Factory And it tastes like tea with them.

Speaker 21 (01:26:38):
I mean, but listen like they But but but you're
supposed to. You're supposed to when you dan your woman. Now,
y'all supposed to go out and stunt and be the
envy of everybody's eyes.

Speaker 12 (01:26:50):
So I believe in that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
But some these dudes who just they ain't even doing
this that now, I don't I don't get that.

Speaker 32 (01:26:56):
I'm not no, no, no, no, I don't know because
I think from what was said earlier too, like I
would recommend for women not to even have them spend
money on them yet, because if you're already expecting for
her to sleep with you because you're spending money, that's

(01:27:17):
just putting. I felt like when I was at that point,
I was like, no, I didn't want them to pay
even for the first date. I just wanted to go
on a different date, just like go walk in public,
because it was starting to be like it's awkward to
eat in front of someone you don't know first of all.
So anyway, I'm like, you just don't pay so much money,

(01:27:43):
because then are you dealing with the money or are
you dealing with the person at the beginning get.

Speaker 30 (01:27:47):
To know them genuinely.

Speaker 32 (01:27:48):
Anyway, I iel my mic because if a woman is
going to stop dating you because you're not paying for
the dates anymore and you've been to six dates already,
then she isn't the wrong, Like, she isn't the wrong,
so just let her go.

Speaker 18 (01:28:00):
But maroney, when the man said, hey, let's go on
copy dates, the women talked about us like.

Speaker 32 (01:28:06):
A dog, then that's not the right woman, Jonathan. If
she's after your money, she's not after you. Yeah, she's
not the right woman.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
Look, John, that's the first thing I do.

Speaker 12 (01:28:17):
I'm a.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
I'm a.

Speaker 21 (01:28:19):
I may invite her to my favorite part. I'm aa,
that's the first thing I do. I'm gonna invite you.
I'm at the park. I'm just you know this because
this is my daily routine. I'm gonna see if you
like me that much first. If you can't do that, whatever,
you know, I want.

Speaker 17 (01:28:32):
To say this.

Speaker 39 (01:28:34):
Let's say y'all said six dates. Let's say a man
over the course of six dates. He spending uh, three
thousand dollars? Do you think that he has the right
to sue that woman?

Speaker 13 (01:28:46):
Get the fuck out of here, y'all taking this ship too?

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
Yeah, we need sitting there to jail police saying some
ship like that.

Speaker 11 (01:29:00):
That ship just kissed me off.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
That's a birds, man. We're tired my brother.

Speaker 12 (01:29:07):
Birds.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
Man, y'all are birds.

Speaker 12 (01:29:09):
Of my brothers.

Speaker 13 (01:29:10):
I hate men of this generation because the fucks.

Speaker 11 (01:29:16):
Just like my dad. No more, man, y'all niggas need
to shut the fuck about three thousand fucking dollars.

Speaker 21 (01:29:22):
Not exactly, go ahead, exactly send me three thousand dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:29:30):
Yea fucking crazy bitches, man, Like, what the fuck is
going on?

Speaker 12 (01:29:35):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:29:35):
Y'all talk angry?

Speaker 32 (01:29:39):
That catching something else and they're spending too much money, Termaine.
I think the anger of men nowadays, it's like you're
not telling them and not putting a gun on their
head and saying, spend this money on me. But then
they do it themselves. But they're angry at themselves. But
then now they turn around and be angry at women.
I think for me, it's like you have to look

(01:30:01):
at the situation. They're expecting so much from you just
because they take it out of the dinner.

Speaker 11 (01:30:07):
Move around niggas like that. I don't know men like this,
move around these types of niggas, that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
Yeah, see.

Speaker 11 (01:30:15):
Talk like that when they start talking to the fuck
around from these types of mesas like this. This only
happens on clubhouse. That's why I be coming over here
like what the fuck? Because my reality, I don't see
these types of niggas like what the fuck?

Speaker 21 (01:30:28):
And see that's why and see, that's why I don't
make it an obligation for women to be as clean
and responsible as my mama, because I know every woman
ain't my mama. And I think a lot of people
they problem is they want people to be like other people.
But she just said the word start going around the
type of if you think this how man should be

(01:30:49):
going around them, type of man, if you think this
how women should be going type like I'm gonna follow
the room that Maroni be in because the way she talking,
that's how I think. Like, you know what, See, y'all'll
be trying to force people. Okay, I like him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
I like what they got.

Speaker 21 (01:31:05):
You try to force your way of thinking up. Nah, man,
them people letting you know this how I think, this
how relationships. And I'm at the point I'm about to
get the mic though, but I'm at the point where
I feel like, in my maturity, I realized that it's
just different stroke different folks, and just because people don't
see how I see it don't mean it's wrong. It
just means me and you ain't the one who need
to be clicked up like that.

Speaker 12 (01:31:26):
You feel.

Speaker 9 (01:31:29):
Wow, Yeah, man, this ship crazy stack for sure.

Speaker 12 (01:31:34):
Oh man, like yo, get up on this.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
I'm already up on this ship.

Speaker 12 (01:31:41):
Man. This this sure.

Speaker 9 (01:31:43):
Black women respect black man who can't teach them anything?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Oh ship, turn it up?

Speaker 12 (01:31:53):
Yeah, you come behind.

Speaker 9 (01:31:57):
Respect.

Speaker 7 (01:31:58):
Yeah, she should respect regardless a man sting a teacher.
Are you gonna get a kid to teach ship a woman?
These women don't want to be talking these days.

Speaker 9 (01:32:05):
The funk we're talking about it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
You can't teach her ship a woman that's already stuck
in her fucking ways, You can't teach her motherfucker thing.
That's why most men and one young girl sucker teach them,
mold them into what they want and then but you
will get shined for that ship. Some men don't don't
great this ship because you don't get shining for this ship,
even though uh, these older women can fucking suck and
do all it to the young niggas though, but they
they don't ever get shined for that ship.

Speaker 9 (01:32:28):
So I'm just I'm just be honest with you this
this this is crazy ship right here. Then I'm did.
I'm just that ship.

Speaker 7 (01:32:36):
If you' if you don't know how to respect yourself,
you can't. She ain't gonna respect you. She can't respect herself.
A woman that will who your cult, her ass, shorts
with her ass hangout.

Speaker 9 (01:32:43):
She for the streets. A woman that can't that they
can't can't.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Talk to you respectfully without without calling your boat, dusting
all that type of ship because you don't want to
do certain ship for she for the streets.

Speaker 9 (01:32:54):
Them red flags, Jill. Like somebody just said, move around them.

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
People can't move around people that they don't go that
they don't even they fucking city. Most of the people
don't club. I don't even believe they city. They are
around people who they always gonna be around, so that
they gotta deal what they gotta deal with. You can't
move around people, you just you just tirely see every
fucking day that you always see these type of women
usually going so most of the most men these days,
young niggas. Y'all need the older community to learn from

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the young niggas. I heard the wayans fuck them and leave.
They asked the fuck alone. That's the basic they saying.

Speaker 9 (01:33:24):
Don't buy them.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Ship.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
Now you can smoke a blunt with a motherfucker writing
one of the young girls and fuck them and get
your dick struck right now if you want to, you
can buy a motherfucker look at a bottle of Hennessy
and get them drunk.

Speaker 9 (01:33:35):
Y'all, y'all have a motherfucker. That's some sad.

Speaker 7 (01:33:39):
And they talking about they talk about cheesecake factory. Well,
most of these motherfucking young ass girls. I heard you
get some McDonald's for them and you smash it like
a motherfucker.

Speaker 9 (01:33:47):
So that shit be crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:33:48):
How I come on club down, I'm living world. I'm
looking at the I'm looking at the real world. I
ain't talking about this this clubhouse ship where they talk
about this, I don't real listen can to that. But
because most of the motherfucker's in here for sure, and
I know this has been a trick of they ass.
Most women, I guarantee you most of them have got

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picking up by a motherfucker older nigga while they was
in high school and dropped back off before they got
out of school.

Speaker 9 (01:34:14):
Most of the motherfuckers. That's why, that's why, exactly why they.

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
Don't respect men. Because guess what a woman said out
her own motherfucking mouth. She don't respect men because she
never had a father to show her respect, So why
she don't respect men. So if the respect word come
up and these women say they can't respect you because
you can't show them ship. Remember men, they're sitting on
this app why the fuck would she respect you? And

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why would you be her daddy and teach her something?
Because she's not your mama, and she can't teach you shit,
she'll leave you. She got she gotta show you something
because she's not your mama. They throw that mama shit
up all the time. But if you got to teach
a woman something, then you you know that's a red flag.

Speaker 32 (01:34:59):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:35:00):
I'm guessing that's a fucking red flat. Because I ain't
teaching a motherfucker a woman of today.

Speaker 11 (01:35:04):
That's not a red flag.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
High that's to me. To me, my opinion, Why wouldn't you.

Speaker 11 (01:35:08):
Want your woman to be able to learn from my
old opinion?

Speaker 12 (01:35:11):
Right?

Speaker 24 (01:35:11):
Because then look what I said, factory.

Speaker 7 (01:35:15):
Know what I'm saying, because I sit up to the
women of today, of today, They y'all, they put so.

Speaker 9 (01:35:22):
Much standard on this ship.

Speaker 7 (01:35:23):
Y'all ain't septing no fucking cheesecake factory. Y'all, y'all can't
accept the going to a coffee shop and drink d
a cup of coffee and have a nice conversation. Y'all
ain't accepting that ship. And then you gotta take y'all
to a fine and die winding down. You gotta pay
for the entree every sienne to go along with that ship.
And guess what these niggas are, some crayon dumb ass,
fly ass niggas, because see, I take a woman to

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that ship. If I take a woman out to this
ship right there, hassan gonna get some pussy. I don't
know about I'm getting. I don't know about the nigga's sure,
because when that's true for me for sure.

Speaker 24 (01:35:57):
But when you look at if you go to my
profile on Google Maps, I'm in the top ten percent
and most of the places I go, including fish taco
are are under ten dollars, and it's documented with me
actually moving. So I cater two women who might be

(01:36:18):
interested in doing something that they know nothing about when
they leave town. That's not true at all. Now, if
we have to bring our relationship back to the table,
of course, cheesecake is not acceptable.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
And I just want to say, Tremaine, you deserve all it.

Speaker 21 (01:36:37):
So I want opposed in which I just had to
throw that out there because sometimes when you come back
and say stuff, you know, people now know what you
won't know what you deserve.

Speaker 24 (01:36:48):
You feel me and know what you know your worth
and the cheese cave back to.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Love ship.

Speaker 11 (01:37:04):
What is wrong with your acting?

Speaker 13 (01:37:05):
My teethcake factory is some bullshit.

Speaker 9 (01:37:07):
I don't know, John, John.

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
The first the first problem, the first problem with women
are they don't they don't want to accept that there
there are, there are, there are medium there there are
like fours. They think they're fucking ding piece like the
niggas gotta take them, oh swimm if they think they
motherfucker four and five. I'm gonna tell you what I mean,

(01:37:38):
gonna I'm gonna tell you exactly. Let me tell you
what I mean. Maroni if you put your real pizza of,
take that motherfucking makeup off your face, and show me
this ship.

Speaker 9 (01:37:46):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 11 (01:37:47):
What about that's crazy at hell's your delivery. That's not
the way you should have said it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
He well, hold on, hold on what you're donna doing.
Let me see what say gender wars. This is what
she say, right, I'm gonna say what the fuck I
want to say because I'm a man. Can't no woman
tell me what they say. Police, your nigga. Police told me,
correct your nigga, don't correct me.

Speaker 30 (01:38:13):
So we can't teach them anything like what does that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:38:16):
Explain to me?

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
Please, you can't teach a woman nothing. See see most
of y'all there's there's uh thirty thirty and above.

Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
Y'all stuck in your wage. Y'all ain't trying to change
for no motherfucker nigga can't. You can't show y'all ship.
A nigga can show y'all how to get money. Y'all
ain't trying get y'all they trying to hear that ship.
If if he ain't giving you something in today's time,
these women the days of time, if you ain't giving
a woman ship.

Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
You can't show her ship.

Speaker 17 (01:38:37):
We could.

Speaker 9 (01:38:38):
It's how you feel, that's how That's what I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:38:41):
You've been around nothing, but hell no, that's what that means. Yes,
you know, if you've been a lot of women.

Speaker 12 (01:38:49):
You're not gonna call.

Speaker 9 (01:38:51):
You're not gonna call.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
Well you're not well well, uh well, sister, you always
tell eighty five percent of women of club out this.

Speaker 9 (01:38:59):
Ship, they take that ship.

Speaker 11 (01:39:02):
Okay, okay, hold on, I like what I'm not fucking
disagreeing with you, But if that's your only sentiments that
you've got, you've been around another but bum ass holes,
because females that's really chasing and getting to it. They
not they want a nigga to teach them that ship.
So if you're telling me you've been around me, you

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ain't been able to teach her ship. You've been around
bum ass bit you have to take care of and
that's on you. That ain't no herd because that's you
you choosing these bitches.

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
Not the.

Speaker 12 (01:39:34):
Knowledge wasn't working up.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
You have moved in his pocket.

Speaker 12 (01:39:40):
But you could say the opposite though, but no, you
have women.

Speaker 24 (01:39:44):
You have women like beyond State to do lemonade. You
have Gloria Gainer, who's dead. I will survive. I forget
what that lady's name is. To say, you playing me
like a food, I'm gonna put it in the one ass.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
My man is not true, So smaller people are also.

Speaker 24 (01:40:03):
To deserve more and have self esteink.

Speaker 30 (01:40:09):
Okay, respect him. If you can't teach her anything, Jonathan, please, Well, well.

Speaker 18 (01:40:15):
We could say this. Look, we could say it both ways.
Right to Charmaine's point. If you've had a woman, you
haven't taught her everything anything, you could say that she's
a bump chick. But if she hasn't, if she hasn't
learned anything, it might be that she's a boss chick.

Speaker 13 (01:40:34):
No, women, even boss chicks, still need a man to
teach that.

Speaker 11 (01:40:37):
We need men. The thing is, if we if we
can't learn from you, we don't respect you. A woman
who can't learn from her man, she don't have no
respect for I'm telling her right now, that's how I've
always felt.

Speaker 12 (01:40:56):
Answered the toddle of the room exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
So votapol vote the pool. Then everybody vote the pool.
Y'all know the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Vote the poor.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
No real woman's gonna respect you at all if you
ain't standing on business. I don't care what the fuck
y'all saying. You get debate all y'all want to hear though,
that's sure, respect and ship. Let's talk about it though,
open for them.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Let's go back.

Speaker 28 (01:41:20):
Don't you think there's a different level of respect, Like
I mean, like, he can't teach me nothing, but he's
not he's not gonna be my man, and he's not
gonna be uh getting a potential suitor respect he gonna get. Oh,
I'm gonna respect this motherfucker because they are human being.
Respect but not like he get the call of shots
in my life.

Speaker 10 (01:41:41):
Respect.

Speaker 28 (01:41:41):
Don't you agree, like there's different levels of respect that
motherfuckers could get.

Speaker 13 (01:41:44):
That's two different conversations.

Speaker 11 (01:41:46):
Go ahead, Sean Man, Yeah, that's two different conversations.

Speaker 13 (01:41:49):
That's not in the same context.

Speaker 11 (01:41:51):
That's two different I'll just say I.

Speaker 40 (01:41:54):
Just got here, good lucky. Should women respect men who
can't teach them anything? Hell goddamn now, Jonathan, let's continue.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Anybody jump in, pick, let's go up.

Speaker 12 (01:42:10):
I'm not listen.

Speaker 41 (01:42:11):
I'm not.

Speaker 18 (01:42:13):
I kind of have mixed feelings, which is why I
haven't really said much because I see definitely where you're
coming from.

Speaker 12 (01:42:20):
Status but at this age of female.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
It's like, why be a useless man? Jonathan was all
made to be here to to you know, set the tone.
You know, Well, maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm different.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:42:38):
I agree with you in theory, right Like in theory
I agree with you. The problem that we have in
our community is that mindset that's keeping a lot of sisters.
Because what you have is you have a lot of
very educated sisters. You got a lot of proficient, professional,
successful systems, and a lot of these sisters are saying

(01:43:01):
that exact same thing. In order for me to respect
the men, he gotta be able to teach me something.
I gotta be able to learn from him. At the
same time, your ass got a PhD. And you make
a quarter of a million dollars, So you're looking for
a man above you where maybe that man who doesn't
make as much as you, but he's strong, masculine, good

(01:43:26):
in bed, treat you, good provider, protect her.

Speaker 12 (01:43:30):
Maybe you would have had a good life with that man,
but you so stuck on.

Speaker 10 (01:43:35):
I need a man that's on my level, preferably above
my level.

Speaker 12 (01:43:40):
Not everybody gonna get a man in a perfect situation.

Speaker 18 (01:43:44):
You're able to teach your stuff, your women's stuff, about
finances and about real estate and about portfolios.

Speaker 12 (01:43:52):
And all that thing.

Speaker 18 (01:43:53):
But the reality is that a lot of these women
are coming to the relationships pretty damn successful when you're
in the professional world. And if every sister is looking
for that Alpha Stacks type of man, there ain't enough
brothers to go around like a Stacks.

Speaker 13 (01:44:11):
But Jonathan's bigger than the money.

Speaker 11 (01:44:15):
It's men that may not have made make much much
money as me. But them, nigg I don't even know
how to explain it. They just have an energy about
them that they know how to teach you something.

Speaker 13 (01:44:25):
I don't even know how to explain it.

Speaker 11 (01:44:26):
But there's men. It's not it's bigger than the money.

Speaker 13 (01:44:29):
It's not even about the money.

Speaker 12 (01:44:30):
But I agree with you, but you know what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 11 (01:44:34):
I know what you're talking about. But that's why people
are compatible with people. They're supposed to be compatible with.
Everybody is not for everybody.

Speaker 12 (01:44:41):
That's not enough. Look, there's not enough dudes like the
Stacks to go around.

Speaker 11 (01:44:48):
But there's not a lot of But hold on, wait,
we just said eighty five percent of women and the
fucking ship are just there's not a lot of women
like that either.

Speaker 13 (01:44:56):
That's for Stacks, trust me, it's not.

Speaker 11 (01:44:59):
I think when you it's not a lot of women
that's gonna be on that frequency that Stax is on.
He is gonna take a certain type of woman for him.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
I did.

Speaker 12 (01:45:09):
When you look at these.

Speaker 18 (01:45:11):
When when you look at that, Yeah, that's what I mean.
When you look at these major cities in Atlanta, A, Dallas,
in Houston, l A, A, d C. Chicago, these black
women is kicking the ass. These women are brunched. These
women is buying property. Everybody's looking for that alpha type
of dude that they can look up to, keeping the

(01:45:33):
warm hundred and there ain't enough of them dudes to
go around. That's why you got so many professional women
single because they looking for that dude. Ain't enough of
them dudes to go around. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 13 (01:45:45):
I do know what you're talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:45:46):
They're looking for that dude in your ptr and winmen
pictures in that way. They looking for that Thank you.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (01:45:57):
I'm I'm willing to bet you money that those men
you speak of, the men who ain't about the money
who but who still have that high energy you speak of,
still probably got chicks crawling all over h. I mean
when we talk about I think, as black men, if

(01:46:18):
we got a mission of success going for us, I
mean maybe not a smission, but if we got a
good amount of success going for us, like if we
got our shit together to a certain standard, we're.

Speaker 42 (01:46:30):
Gonna have women crawling over.

Speaker 17 (01:46:31):
Us for the most extent, because I mean, just there's
the stereotype that in the stereotype federaled in in society
and then the media, and we some bum niggas, we
some niggas who don't like take care of our kids,
and and we just and we like fuck everything that
we fuck everything that moves, and that stereotype still exists.

(01:46:54):
So men who beat that stereotype and have a good
amount of success with it and doing good, doing well
and good for yourself, you don't even I mean, he
don't have to be making five hundred thousand dollars a year,
but I'll be making six figures, not even six figures,
I mean even but if but if he's got the
energy you speak of, he probably got women over him too,

(01:47:18):
or crawling all over too. He probably got his choice
of bitches too.

Speaker 39 (01:47:21):
So that's just man the way, they're not gonna respect
you because they can't respect themselves.

Speaker 12 (01:47:30):
It's all.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
It's a it's all. It's all starts within.

Speaker 39 (01:47:33):
They don't love themselves, they don't respect themselves, so they
will never be able to do it for you. And
that's just the bottom line. All these brawls. They be
having low self esteem. That's why they need you to
validate them and all this old type of shit because they.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
Just don't have it.

Speaker 39 (01:47:46):
So y'all just trying to get something, and y'all trying
to get something out of somebody that you can't get.

Speaker 12 (01:47:52):
It's not the.

Speaker 32 (01:47:53):
Spirit, it's it's it's not that that way is the
other way around. If you're a respectable man and then
woman comes to your life, she's disrespectful to you, gonna
let you have to determine that. But for a woman,
a man that we look up to, you know, obviously,
like he comes, okay, he comes to your life, you're

(01:48:15):
either gonna look up to him and you're gonna respect
him or you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Let's talk about it. Because a lot of men be
weak as fucked too.

Speaker 32 (01:48:26):
You up, that's that's true but heavy, but ultimately the
respect is there or not right, but you could respect
a person, make sure women like if you you can
respect him for who he is, but let him go
because if you stay just because you're humble about it,
it ends up biding you on the back.

Speaker 30 (01:48:48):
At the end of the day. The man must be.

Speaker 32 (01:48:51):
Something that we look up to, obviously, because it's easier
to be under that umbrella because naturally they want to
put us under their umbrella, right because they want to
be the man. So we have to make sure that
they're above us and we can look up to them
and admire what they do for.

Speaker 30 (01:49:08):
Themselves, not necessarily for us.

Speaker 32 (01:49:10):
That's why I'm a little bit confused stack about the
topic because you're saying, can't teach her anything, because I'm
sure she's gonna come with her own too. So is
it if he can't teach her anything or if is
it because a woman will respect the man if he's
respectable in his own life what he comes with, not
like necessarily try to appease to her to respect him.

(01:49:32):
But he's already respectable, then she's gonna continually respect him.
So it also has to do with selecting the partners I.

Speaker 17 (01:49:40):
Think if all women follow that rule, the whole dating,
the whole dating thing as we know it would be
a whole lot different than what it is today.

Speaker 42 (01:49:50):
But just the fact is, or the way I see
it is it just you got it is a.

Speaker 17 (01:49:57):
Significant amount of the lady population who still care about well,
will care more about how a man makes him feel
than whether like or just field period, whether he don't
got shipped to his name, or whether or whether he does.
If he's got the gift of gas to make a

(01:50:18):
woman feel a certain way whenever he wants to, and
some met out here got the gift of gab if
they don't have shit else going for him. That like,
there's a lot of women out there that are still
far for that. Fuck the admiration, just the just the
feeling it gifts him. Getting the gift of gab is
still like, the gift of gab is still a thing
in the society. Some women may be more about just

(01:50:44):
surviving because they may not have this shit together. But
a guy may not be admirable like in a way
like she just like I guess in the way you're saying,
but he's good enough to help her, to help her
out of her situation.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Look, oh well, I thought she had gonna land.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
But look at what you're saying.

Speaker 39 (01:51:07):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna just talk about
what you pretty much said. Look at what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (01:51:11):
You and a lot of men do this, But we
have to put it together.

Speaker 39 (01:51:15):
The same woman that's sitting up there, you know, halfway
selling herself, is the same woman that's gonna sit there
and bust down for the next man.

Speaker 12 (01:51:24):
She the same woman she's just doing she just had.

Speaker 10 (01:51:27):
She's a different person with a different man, but she
the same hit. So we have to understand this.

Speaker 39 (01:51:33):
These women are selling themselves. Now you have to choose
not to buy it, and you have, like you just said,
to give the gap. Your conversation should be conversation rule
the nation. That's what all the old school players say.
Conversation rule the nation. So you gotta have enough conversation
to motherfucker have that brawl.

Speaker 10 (01:51:53):
But if you don't, it's you.

Speaker 39 (01:51:55):
You gotta move on to the next and get what
you can get. But that's what a lot of guys
have to come to terms with. You dealing with the
same woman. You just don't know a lot of a
lot of guys are married and in relationships with women
who's selling themselves.

Speaker 12 (01:52:08):
But I land on that.

Speaker 24 (01:52:11):
Well, the thing is is you have the right to
believe that God. Will I dream a Jennie drop you
down a mate that can offer you the promises of
God and lead your household because I've seen a lot.
I've seen a lot of households where the guy is
not a man, but that does not exempt the woman

(01:52:34):
from making enough dinner the night before so he can
take it to lunch and work. And that is a
big problem because I used to tempt. I used to
take one day assignments, four day assignments, and I never
saw a black man bring lunch, you know, home from work.

(01:52:57):
I mean lunch to work from home. So but you know,
regardless of what the problem is the HIV. When I
did my grant writing for children, it was called Hip
Hop Revolution and it was picked up at the National
Harbor in PG County. Part of the problem is is

(01:53:17):
that you have men who are not men. They're male,
and they are down under and they have The DC
area had the highest rate of infection we're talking about rate.
It was higher than the whole continent of Africa, which
was eight out with HIV AIDS. I yield my mic.

Speaker 17 (01:53:42):
Hey, I'm gonna just say something in reply to what
you just said about men not being men.

Speaker 14 (01:53:48):
Not like.

Speaker 17 (01:53:51):
With with the millions of with with the continent, endless
rules and regulations about what makes a real man and
the ever changing like definition or like of what a
real man is supposed to be. Sometimes I'm like, fuck it,

(01:54:14):
just call me a mail and let's get it over
with because and let me try to explain what I mean.
I could be a six. I could be a lead plumber,
like a master electrician, make it one hundred and fifty bassoles.
I could own my own business, have houses, investments, cars,

(01:54:36):
life insurance, everything settled, be a family man, believe in Jesus.
But it's always going to be something that let's say
I have all that, but let's say I might argue
with a woman once.

Speaker 42 (01:54:52):
In a while, just like I mean, back and forth,
you know what it is, or not even that I might.

Speaker 17 (01:54:58):
See I'm might be walking down the street in Oxon Hill,
because this would never happen in National Harvard, but at
Oxon Hill or Saint Barnabas Road or over by Suitland
and see a guy beating on a woman and I
could just go mind my business and not do anything
about it. But like if if somebody catches it on

(01:55:19):
camera and sees me walking away and not doing nothing,
they're gonna say, oh, you're not a real man. Now,
I'm I'm just saying people will say that stuff about it.
Man Like, no matter what I feel that, no matter who,
no matter what gender, exhibits bad behavior, I still always
feel they're quick to like take a man's like emasculate

(01:55:41):
a man before they defend feminized a woman each and
every time. And at some point I'm like, now that's
the way I feel. Sometime at some point I'm like,
you know what, fuck it, I'm reductive enough. I've overcome
the obstacles that I've overcome. Like obviously we all want
to be men. But at some pointint like if you're
just gonna keep on moving the gold post about what

(01:56:02):
a man is gonna be, or just adding on adding
on one thing after another, I'm like, fuck it. At
this point, I'm proud of myself. Just be like you
keep a man. I'm not a download dude. I'm not
I'm not a download dude. I'm just like a regular male.
That's that's how I feel sometimes. But I'm just I'm
just leading, yeah, okay, being a decent human being. Sometimes

(01:56:27):
I think that's enough. So but.

Speaker 7 (01:56:31):
Why the fuck with y'all? Hey, why the fuck with y'all?
I say, why, Why the fuck do y'all even matter?
What the fucking woman demascalized a man. She didn'tstalize her,
she did messalize your ass. He women, Hey, I have,
I have, I have cart club, have to be approven
fact that I'm a bom man. Nigga broke, that nigga live,

(01:56:52):
want the bridge, that nigga don't take care of kids.

Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
That nigga.

Speaker 9 (01:56:55):
I don't give a funk about none of that bullshit.

Speaker 7 (01:56:57):
She can't, she can't do none of that ship to me,
and she don't hurt me with these fucking women say
the fuck. They've been saying that shit for two, three
or three generations, y'all niggas still getting in y'all pants
in a bunch cuse the women say that bullshit. Man,
she can't demasculinize your ass. The fuck her words, he
mastualize you. Fuck with they, Tom Bell Man, I don't
give a fuck with these women be talking. They can't
play that shit crazy at him, mate. And I guarantee you, brother,

(01:57:19):
you're older than me, I guarantee you all. A woman
can never demssalinize me. She can't tell me shit. I
don't give a fuck when she said I ain't that
for my kids. She could say I'm a bitch ad
I'm all that ship to her. I won't give a
flying fuck because she don't. She don't even know me
in a day of the time, Dude, I don't follow
a suit.

Speaker 12 (01:57:34):
What a woman say?

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
A woman follow suit what I say? I don't date
women who don't, who don't listen listen to what the
fuck I say? And and and she tell me make
a left. And if I feel like it's safe to
take a left, I take the left. I feel like
she's telling the truth or you want to help me
or something. But if she can't follow suit what I'm
saying may fuck up the fuck what she talking about?
Sh She can't tell me ship the fuck we talking about, y'all?

(01:57:58):
Most most men, like you just said, most male pood
women points every day where they de masculinize me.

Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
The mass line who to massilize.

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
These week bay, the male ass niggas jenny bean back
ass nigga. Yeah, they di missed like they do that
shit to y'all because you just said that's how you feel.

Speaker 9 (01:58:13):
They do it shity, y'all. The don't do it shit
to a motherfuckering niggas who who know his purpose.

Speaker 11 (01:58:17):
They don't want that.

Speaker 9 (01:58:18):
They don't. Matter of fact, they don't date.

Speaker 7 (01:58:20):
Niggas who know they purpose and and walk on their
and work, walk in their motherfucking direction with their purpose
in their motherfucking hands. They run, They running them nigasause
nigga ain'tn'n let them run up. They can't stand on
our fucking neck and they can't run all over us.

Speaker 10 (01:58:32):
But when they find a.

Speaker 7 (01:58:32):
Week a week jelly bean ass back ass niggas, that's
what they do. Ship, that's what they do ship too.

Speaker 9 (01:58:40):
The word is masculate master, my bad, English teacher.

Speaker 40 (01:58:48):
My bad.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
Yeah, Yes, I'm.

Speaker 11 (01:58:53):
Public and sadmaster.

Speaker 8 (01:58:55):
I don't go down.

Speaker 10 (01:58:56):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:58:57):
I don't give a fuck about going out of public
saying nothing to a black woman could guess what.

Speaker 9 (01:59:01):
Black women don't act like y'all women on own clubhouse.

Speaker 7 (01:59:04):
They don't be disrespectful ship in my fucking face, black
women in my face show love to a nigga, they
say thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:59:10):
When when I heard doll before, No, no, no, no,
no no, I didn say you disrespected me. No, I
say appreciate you. I said appreciate you.

Speaker 11 (01:59:19):
I said you call me an English teacher because I
corrected it.

Speaker 9 (01:59:23):
Yeah, that's you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
How yo, that's Porsche. You know who that is, bro Skie.

Speaker 9 (01:59:29):
I'm from the I'm from the South, man, I from
living So you know what I'm saying. She ain't the
teacher for so I appreciate the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Y'all crazy ship that my girl. Man, Yo, should women
respect men who can't teach them anything?

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
I'm still standing on.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
My sweat fuck snow new New New. You know, biggie,
if they can't teach me, you know you can't teach
some shit.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Come on, what do you you? A useless man?

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Give what you're saying?

Speaker 14 (02:00:08):
My mind, my way of saying was always, man, you
gotta teach you the reaching you gotta reach it, you
gotta reach you the teaching. You gotta teach you to
keep them. But check yourself. And this is the reality
of it. You know what I'm saying. I understand the
way that I look at it and the way that
I see it, Hey, that's not the way people out
there are operating. You know what I'm saying, because last

(02:00:28):
time I checked, right, you know outside you know, Hell,
it depends on what woman you talking about, because I
know a lot of these and yeah, I know a
lot of sisters that get with you know what I'm saying,
dumb motherfuckers that can't teach your sister shit.

Speaker 12 (02:00:44):
But how the motherfucking be a little a little dumber,
a little more ignorant.

Speaker 14 (02:00:49):
But hell, because that's because hell, that that attracts those
particular sisters because they ignorant as fuck. And I think,
you know what is those what is the saying that
people say? You know, and they it was popular on
Clubhouse at one time. Water seats its own level. See
the problem? You know that one of the issues and
a lot of these conversations you got everybody, you know

(02:01:10):
what I'm saying. You know, everybody wants to act like
they don't swim in the gutter.

Speaker 12 (02:01:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 14 (02:01:18):
You got you got you got women out here, You
got women out here, and you got men out here
that love swimming in the gutter. And I'll say it, like,
let you let these motherfuckers on clubhouse tell it. There
ain't no such thing as as as as ah, There's
no such thing as ain't shit women. Let some of
these brothers tell it it ain't no such things. Ain't

(02:01:38):
shit brothers. Some of these women ain't shit, And some
of these brothers ain't shit. And they and they and they,
and many times they find each other. But what the
problem is is no one wants to No one's going
to admit that they ain't shit. You get what I'm saying.
So you know like you should women. You know, women

(02:02:00):
respect who can't teach them anything. The women deal with
motherfuckers all the time who can't teach them shit. We
may go and I'm not there. You know, I'm not
saying all women do that. I'm not saying most women
do that. So but whoever starts screaming and hollering, they're
the ones who do it. You get what I'm saying,

(02:02:20):
because they'll check this out right now. You have you
have sisters. You have sisters, and I just proved positive
up it. You got sisters.

Speaker 22 (02:02:27):
Man.

Speaker 12 (02:02:28):
Put it like this.

Speaker 14 (02:02:29):
I know brothers out here right like brothers from the
neighborhood wherever they is so you know, don't know shit
and don't know what the fuck is going on on
a fundamental level, and they got children. So what that

(02:02:49):
means is that some sisters right and and and and
a lot of them have children by multiple women. That
means that says that some sister somewhere saw this, saw
value in having a child with this dumb motherfucker that

(02:03:12):
somebody tell me where the fuck.

Speaker 12 (02:03:14):
The lie is?

Speaker 11 (02:03:16):
Well, Biggie can ask you a question, don't you think though,
like certain men who see life through a different lens,
they don't even they don't fuck with females like that
that you're like them, the ones that's like they don't
be having what Okay, there's just certain men, like the
men you're talking about, they see life through a different lens.
They're not fucking with no woman. That's like on some

(02:03:38):
the ship that you're just explaining, Like those types of
men don't be fucking with women like that. And if
they do, I don't know women like that.

Speaker 12 (02:03:45):
That's what I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 11 (02:03:47):
Like women that they feel like they can't teach them ship.
That's just like you know, just there just to.

Speaker 14 (02:03:54):
That goes because you have to you have to think, right,
And this is and this is why I say a
lot of these conversations and I'm I'm talking specifically to you, right,
but a lot of these conversations on clubhouse.

Speaker 12 (02:04:04):
They don't play outside.

Speaker 14 (02:04:06):
They're not They're not they don't they these are just
these are just talking points because because like a lot
of times, right, you have to think about what drives attraction.
Like on clubhouse, it's money and intellect. That that that's
those are only things that drive attraction on clubhouse, right,

(02:04:27):
But in the real world, that shit ain't true. Dysfunction
drives uh, attraction, unresolved but unresolved, unresolved trauma drives attraction.
Both self esteem drives attraction. All of these things drive

(02:04:52):
attraction in the real world. So saying, if you have
if you have a sister or a brother, right, Hell,
but you got a lot of code dependent really relationships
out here. But let these motherfuckers tell it. On clubhouse,
this shit only goes one way. You can have a
sister a highly educated system for instance, for example, right

(02:05:12):
that that uh, you know can be you know a
highly you know she is an educated sister, you know
is gainfully employed. Hell, she'll deal with a bullshit and
she can be an attractive system. She'll deal with a
bullshit motherfucker because when she looks in the mirror, hell,
she thinks she ain't shit, and so she'll deal with

(02:05:33):
a bullshit motherfucker because that's that. That's how she sees herself,
because her self esteem is all jacked up and fucked
up and into toilet.

Speaker 12 (02:05:45):
And brothers do the same shit, but only on clubhouse.

Speaker 14 (02:05:48):
Everyone has high self esteem and a positive self image.

Speaker 12 (02:05:52):
That shit ain't true.

Speaker 11 (02:05:54):
No, that's some real shit. And you know what, biggie,
Most relationships I feel like are code depending most people
set or they just like you said, they it's like
a codependency on That's that's some real shit you just said.
I didn't look at it that way you got.

Speaker 24 (02:06:09):
I was just reading this profile here and it says
a woman can fully rest in her and she's cooking
and her divine feminine only when held by a man
rooted in his divine masculine. Her softness leads his strength
to bloom. So the thing is is that while you're

(02:06:29):
calling out all the nagative not nagging, well nagging and
negative attributes, that they can be harnessed for good if
you change else, you're just gonna be an energy.

Speaker 11 (02:06:46):
Honey, you didn't hear nothing he just said even coincide
with what he was just explaining. And that just lets
me know, like, women don't be fucking listening. That has
nothing to do what the fuck he just was talking about.
It does because of this, No, it doesn't. It's for
the simple fact that she can be better if he

(02:07:06):
is better.

Speaker 10 (02:07:08):
So it does.

Speaker 11 (02:07:09):
I don't even have the enegyyt you don't have to,
but you have to break that down. I don't think
her elevator goes. She don't have a range to even
I don't even think it's worth it.

Speaker 4 (02:07:25):
Yeah, well you get your high off of no disrespect.

Speaker 11 (02:07:29):
I'm not even being disrespectful, but her range is not
there to even understand what She's not ready to receive
what you just said because of her response. So it's like,
what's the point in breaking it down to a micro
level for her? That ship is crazy?

Speaker 6 (02:07:42):
Is that bar.

Speaker 24 (02:07:44):
Because he's not my man.

Speaker 9 (02:07:45):
It's not even.

Speaker 11 (02:07:46):
About that, it's not even about me. Long, motherfucking women
are lost. I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
A hold on.

Speaker 22 (02:08:08):
Joe shot up. Wait a minute, Oh the way the
man be white. Why are you getting up here yelling
in the first place? You up, you the fuck up.

Speaker 8 (02:08:30):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:31):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
You don't come up here and start yelling. Get back
to the top. Should men and women? You know, shouldn't
women respect men who can't teach them anything? I want
to get back to the top. Funck all this bullshit, biggie.

Speaker 3 (02:08:45):
Giants, Hey, go sear man, I appreciate you'll. How about
y'all picking the room up for me? Let's gone.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
I want to get back to the motherfucking topic. I
don't want to hear all the yelling. Let's get back
to this ship. What were talking about?

Speaker 26 (02:08:59):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
I don't feel like women gonna respect anybody that can't
teach them ship.

Speaker 5 (02:09:03):
Bro, No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
If you a weak ass motherfucker, you're gonna be a
weak ass motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
Bro, I don't. I'm standing where I'm at. Y'all could
continue to have the conversation, but let's attack people.

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
Wait.

Speaker 37 (02:09:21):
Absolutely respect men that can't teach them anything. Because they're
sleeping with those men, they're having children with those men.

Speaker 13 (02:09:29):
Why would you not respect.

Speaker 37 (02:09:32):
Earning something from that man was so much of a
priority for you you would have figured that out before
the panties at the floor.

Speaker 13 (02:09:38):
Respect Those men respect.

Speaker 12 (02:09:43):
What I said.

Speaker 9 (02:09:44):
They have their children, they already respect them, though. That's
the that's the craziest part.

Speaker 12 (02:09:51):
Though.

Speaker 9 (02:09:52):
They could respect them, but they can't respect them. This
is crazy to me, though.

Speaker 31 (02:09:59):
I I think all men should be respected because just
like Diego said, you're if you're going to be sleeping
with somebody, or if you're gonna like even spend like
even like more than three months or a year with somebody,
you should respect them because you made that choice to
be with that person. And if you're not learning something

(02:10:22):
from them, you're you should be inspired by them.

Speaker 12 (02:10:27):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 24 (02:10:31):
Should be respecting people, period. But you've got to and
that's what I've had to learn the hard way. You know,
how long am I going to hang around and not
see you grow, not see the relationship grow. But yes,
you should respect people all the time. And even when

(02:10:52):
you say you're aduce and get out of the relationship,
it should it should be on a good note of respect.

Speaker 14 (02:10:57):
I'll tell you what somebody's sisters of learning from some
of these brothers how to navigate child support and custody court.
They learning that you get what I'm saying, because they
got to bullshit.

Speaker 12 (02:11:08):
Motherfucker that they that have a child with.

Speaker 14 (02:11:11):
Now they gotta go file for child support and compel
this motherfucker to pay something for his children. God damn it,
I'll tell you something, some of these sisters are learning.
You know what I'm saying from some of these bullshit
It's from some of these bullshit ass brothers. Hell how
they have to pick up both sides of the goddamn
coin when it comes to being there for for a brother.

(02:11:33):
You know what I'm saying, for being there, uh be
raising a child with a brother that doesn't understand how to.

Speaker 10 (02:11:40):
Be a fucking fire.

Speaker 14 (02:11:43):
So the point is that I'm being a little facetious,
but it's real. The point is is this hell Hell,
just because somebody's learning something, that doesn't mean that is
a positive thing. I hear that. You get what I'm saying,
because the thing gives is this, Like I said, like
the sister said, like I said, hell yeah, what what

(02:12:04):
the fuck do you mean if you you don't respect
the dude, but you can just recreated this motherfucker on
this plaquet, through his through through the children, through your womb.
But you don't respect the motherfucker. What that really means
is you don't respect your goddamn self. If you if
you through the through your womb, you give this motherfucker

(02:12:28):
another life beyond his own. And then say out the
other side of the sister's mouth and she don't respect
the brother, Well.

Speaker 12 (02:12:38):
Hell, man, the hell mad you.

Speaker 14 (02:12:40):
But but you just do, But you just but you
just recreated him through your womb, because that's the only
way that a man can recreate himself as through the
womb of a woman. So you gave him, you gave him,
you gave him, you gave him, uh, the ability to
create life through you. But you don't respect the motherfucker.

(02:13:02):
What does that say about the sister who lays up
with that brother and has that brother's child.

Speaker 31 (02:13:10):
Well, what if it what if it's not their child
and he's raising your children. You're saying you can't learn
anything from That's.

Speaker 14 (02:13:18):
Not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is
what I'm saying is just exactly what I said. What
I said because you know, well, I mean the title
of the room has changed now, so we'll go ahead
change it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (02:13:32):
But what I'm saying is yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:13:34):
You already enough now, you bighead brother.

Speaker 14 (02:13:37):
The point I'm making is is this is do women
respect me and they can't learn anything from And I'm
I'm saying is that that you know, we always have to,
you know, try to frame all this stuff as if
it goes in one direction, right, Like learning has to
be something.

Speaker 12 (02:13:55):
That that that uh, that moves the woman forward or
makes her better. Hell.

Speaker 14 (02:14:00):
Hell, the learning process with a bullshit dude could be
something that makes you worse. It could be something that
makes the system. It could be something that makes the
system more bitter. It could be something that makes the
sister put walls up. You get what I'm saying. Because Hell,
if a sister is wrestling with a with a with

(02:14:23):
a with a bullshit dude, you get what I'm saying. Hell, Man,
that sister is going to is going to be worse
off than she was when she got with the dude.
But she but but that's the process of learning too.
So But does she does she respect him? I mean

(02:14:44):
that's a matter of opinion. I would say that a
sister that lays with a brother like that doesn't respect herself.

Speaker 11 (02:14:51):
Yeah, it will always come back to the person. But
you know, I'm a very contentious person, so to be honest,
I hate this title, right, I mean, I mean, I
guess it goes with the culture of clubhouse cliquebait are
starting argument, start some sort of I guess, provoke conversation.

Speaker 13 (02:15:17):
Type of thing.

Speaker 11 (02:15:19):
Because, for one, it assumes respect is earned only through dominance,
dominance or intellect.

Speaker 13 (02:15:27):
I mean, respect isn't only earned through intellect.

Speaker 11 (02:15:30):
That's that's for one. I know, I know many people,
especially generations like baby boomers, with hardly any education in
a formal matter. So now we have to define, well,
what type of teaching are we talking about? Because for me, right,

(02:15:52):
some men may not teach in a formal sense. But
you but if you still provide protection, piece and present,
I mean, is that not still valuable?

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
But I.

Speaker 11 (02:16:06):
Know I'm agreeing with you. Yeah, I'm I'm on your side.

Speaker 13 (02:16:10):
Yeah, that's that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (02:16:17):
So, and not only that, it also reinforces that every
ego battles, uh we say we hate so like, for instance,
if we flip the question should men respect women who
can't teach them anything, it would immediately be seen as toxic. So,
I mean, why is it acceptable the other way around.

(02:16:38):
I mean, I think we should all learn from one
another whatever this means.

Speaker 8 (02:16:43):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:16:44):
Maybe Sax is trying to start something today.

Speaker 3 (02:16:52):
Where we at? She see where we at?

Speaker 12 (02:16:56):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
My next topic for you guys, I'm walking on that
last Okay, diego, it's all my sister, and can you
reset that for me?

Speaker 13 (02:17:07):
I got you.

Speaker 37 (02:17:08):
So as we wrap up the last topic, the last
thing I want to say is, even when there's a
man who cannot teach you something, in all actuality, women
still expect the protection of men, whether they're with them,
whether they're not with them, whether they're friends, whether they're
women expect the protection of men. So it'd be very
weird to expect men to protect you but feel that

(02:17:29):
because they cannot teach you something, they are not worthy
of respect. But nonetheless, welcome to gender worlds worldwide.

Speaker 10 (02:17:34):
We are here with.

Speaker 37 (02:17:35):
Stack at the pack top left. Shout out to him,
Shout out to all the mods in the room. The
title right now is do men get more praise for
bare minimum than women? There is a poll at the
top of the room. Make sure you guys vote in
a poll. We're going to roast you guys about your
choices because we can see what you voted for.

Speaker 30 (02:17:52):
But vote anyway, be a good time.

Speaker 10 (02:17:59):
The wall floor is.

Speaker 11 (02:18:02):
Diego? Is she meant by that? I didn't get that,
so said it again with the last part you said.

Speaker 37 (02:18:07):
About Oh no, What I'm saying is when we're around men,
when women are around men, even if you just met
that man, even if you just gave him your number
and he decides to walk you to the local CVS,
if another man was to come up to you and
slap you across the face, we expect protection from the
men that we are in proximity to. So the men
that we give access to, we expect protection from whether

(02:18:30):
they are good providers, whether they're good men, whether they're
bad men, whether they teach us something, whether they don't,
whether we're having sex with them, whether we're not, whether
they take us out, whether they don't. We simply expect
protection from men like it is a given that if
a man is around you, he is expected to protect you.
So for me, if you're one of those women who
expect protect and I am one of those women, let
me let me speak for myself. So me, I respect

(02:18:51):
all men unless you disrespect me first. I respect all men.
So that's what I mean, Charmaine. I feel that if
you're going to be around the man, regardless of.

Speaker 11 (02:18:59):
What he can provide.

Speaker 37 (02:19:00):
But he's a good man, but he's a good father,
well all the qualifiers, you still expect protection from that man,
then that man is.

Speaker 24 (02:19:06):
Worthy of respect.

Speaker 11 (02:19:08):
I mean people are worthy. I mean, I don't know.
I'm indifferent about that. I feel like everybody doesn't deserve
my respect. I can be like respectful towards you, but
I feel like I don't. Everybody don't deserve my respect.
But I get what you're saying on that. The only
thing I will say is like I think we're talking
about like in an aspect of like when you're like
trying to be with somebody like together. So I feel

(02:19:31):
like you can't be in a relationship and really be
into that man if you don't learn from him, you're
not going to respect him if he can't teach you shit.
That's all I That's how I think anyways. That's what
I'm thinking, Like, I think you guys are thinking in
the aspect of disrespect humanity all around. But I think
it's two different things. You get what I'm saying, Like,
I don't know.

Speaker 37 (02:19:51):
But since you had the nerves to come off like
a disagree with me answer the question.

Speaker 11 (02:19:58):
It's like, who's going to disagree got you? Because Diego
is usually right all the time, but not all the time.
But I what you're saying, thank you, shout out to
my sister.

Speaker 43 (02:20:16):
I think you're sposed to know.

Speaker 12 (02:20:18):
They don't.

Speaker 43 (02:20:20):
You're talking not the pole like I just like because
they said, yes, they do know they I got you,
I got you. Yeah, yeah, but I don't. I don't
think they I'm definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
So explain why doctor b Waller changes.

Speaker 44 (02:20:34):
Yeah, So black men don't really get praised for anything,
like niggas can be exemplary, and women are gonna be like, well,
you're the leader, you're supposed to be that. Meanwhile, these
are the women who are the most subpart mothers out
of every group. They leading child abuse, they're leading in fantaside.
Here we are every Mother's Day telling them Happy Mother's Day.
Like we literally ran a room on Mother's Day and

(02:20:55):
the question was do bad mothers still deserve a happy
Mother's Day?

Speaker 43 (02:20:58):
And the women said yes, yeah.

Speaker 44 (02:21:04):
They get praised for doing the barest of minimals, just
existing doing nothing. You know, getting their hair and nails done.
We're supposed to do a car. We're like, ooh, you
got friends. I'd be surprised when the cars speak clean girls.

Speaker 3 (02:21:20):
John muted muted to go to the audience, diego.

Speaker 8 (02:21:26):
Even go here?

Speaker 43 (02:21:28):
What's going on right now? I was a brother with
a bad hairline, worse than mine.

Speaker 12 (02:21:34):
But yeah, so yeah, this is absolutely no. Men don't.

Speaker 44 (02:21:39):
Men don't even get praised barely when they're great. You
have to be fucking superman to actually get like a
crumb of acknowledgment.

Speaker 15 (02:21:46):
So well, I don't know why.

Speaker 11 (02:21:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 31 (02:21:52):
I think all men get praised compared to women. I
think women do a lot nowadays.

Speaker 26 (02:21:56):
We do two jobs.

Speaker 31 (02:21:57):
We can give birth to children. We like, we become
your like amazing girlfriend, wife, whatever you want us to be.

Speaker 18 (02:22:05):
We like.

Speaker 31 (02:22:07):
I mean, women can do more than men in some
ways like that, like at the present time to uh
respect a man.

Speaker 43 (02:22:16):
And when y'all say like that, many times your brains
are misfiring.

Speaker 25 (02:22:21):
Attempt to answer. Let's go jump in what's up stack,
I'm gonna make this real quick.

Speaker 17 (02:22:28):
Uh.

Speaker 25 (02:22:28):
Men don't get praised for nothing. So the fact that
it's even a question is kind of crazy. We don't
get no praise, so we.

Speaker 1 (02:22:38):
Don't get by don't get no praise.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
Bro, Come on, Jehovah, let's pick it up. Bro's talking
about it.

Speaker 12 (02:22:46):
What do men get praised for?

Speaker 5 (02:22:49):
What? M hmm?

Speaker 12 (02:22:51):
What going to work?

Speaker 14 (02:22:52):
Like?

Speaker 25 (02:22:52):
We don't get no not a good question. Being a
being a good nigga and doing for your family we
don't get. So it's out the way and helping a
woman cross the street, we don't get no praise for that.
Building the roads and the calls that these women drive
on every day. You know what they say, They say

(02:23:13):
they could do that ship. They say that shit don't
matter to them, like even like we build a world
and they don't care about that.

Speaker 12 (02:23:21):
What do we get praised for us? That's the better question?

Speaker 31 (02:23:26):
Is that why they have tall skyscrapers so it can
be like erect penises?

Speaker 3 (02:23:30):
Hey, are we fucking crazy? What the fuck is she talking?

Speaker 10 (02:23:34):
Who for the first one.

Speaker 9 (02:23:39):
When you first said this ship?

Speaker 12 (02:23:40):
Bro?

Speaker 25 (02:23:42):
But against that, like like like doctor B saying, like
women get praised for just showing up, like literally just
showing up. They got their kids, but that child got
on a pissy panther and no shirt and running around
in the middle of the street.

Speaker 12 (02:23:59):
But your mother, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 31 (02:24:02):
I don't know what kind of mothers you guys know,
but I ain't that kind of mother.

Speaker 10 (02:24:05):
Oh nobody was talking about you, man, mute up?

Speaker 12 (02:24:08):
Thank you? Is it crack? Thank you? Appreciate you? It
be the hit thoughs bro like this ship.

Speaker 25 (02:24:14):
You don't be making the stacks like you know, like
they get praised for nothing. So yes, I ain't got
nothing else to say.

Speaker 11 (02:24:23):
I wouldn't say for nothing now, like, come on for.

Speaker 25 (02:24:25):
Nothing, nothing, y'all. Y'all get praised for nothing, just jehovah.
So just showing up in the y'all, just showing up
in a room. It's considered black girl magic.

Speaker 11 (02:24:36):
No, you need to stop it. You gotta stop, you
gotta stop.

Speaker 12 (02:24:39):
No girl power, girl power.

Speaker 11 (02:24:43):
It's a man's world, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
She got a point?

Speaker 11 (02:24:47):
What the song say?

Speaker 3 (02:24:48):
She got a point?

Speaker 43 (02:24:51):
We're not talking about who the world it is talking
about who.

Speaker 11 (02:24:53):
Gets what do y'all want? You'll want flowery in front
of cortex is not what I wanted to It's the
lack of in front of cortext we're women, you guys
are men.

Speaker 44 (02:25:09):
You, guys, where is over stimulated? That what's happening right
now the lack of cortex classes. You must have missed
me over stimulators, because I didn't miss you.

Speaker 27 (02:25:31):
I haven't been in there. I was just talking hogh
of you to take that back.

Speaker 11 (02:25:42):
To be honest, I think there's a contradiction in a
lot of these messages simply because one minute we said
earlier that women have put sorry men on child support
and the things that they do with sorry men, and
they get with these sorry men and pretend that they
know they're worth and then we're saying we're not praising men.

Speaker 13 (02:26:05):
So I'm confusing. Here's why.

Speaker 11 (02:26:10):
If women did not praise men, and then why do
we have a number of women dating men or having
babies by men who literally do the bare minimum, but
in their minds they do they're just these awesome ass men.

Speaker 13 (02:26:36):
But they're not.

Speaker 11 (02:26:38):
So I'm a little confused because we see it all
the time where women pretend to know they're worth, but
yet they are actually praising and holding these men to
a very a lot of I've seen it to a
high standard, who are really not those type of men
who shouldn't be held at a high standard. So I'm

(02:26:59):
just I mean, can we make up our minds because
from one conversation to another, but they do, oh they do.
I've seen it. Oh, I see it all the time
where women praise these type of women and Big you
mentioned it, give them ship as nigga, but you'm a

(02:27:22):
whole legacy. Hold on, you give him a big doctor, b.
This is confusing. You don't want anyone to interrupt through
the whole thing, but you keep But you're interrupting me
as I'm talking to you.

Speaker 5 (02:27:41):
But I'm talking.

Speaker 12 (02:27:42):
Are you talking to me?

Speaker 11 (02:27:44):
So let me get so, let me get this straight.
Should I be praising you in this moment now?

Speaker 17 (02:27:48):
I don't know why.

Speaker 11 (02:27:50):
Interrupting me and being okay, can I please finish? Can
I please finish my statement?

Speaker 6 (02:27:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 11 (02:28:01):
So I'm just a little confused because Big even said
it like we have many women who have had children
with men. These are sorry men, I mean, these men
are barely Jehovah. I'm not sure why you're confused. Are
you not following the conversation or no, I'm not out

(02:28:24):
of bread. I'm walking, yes, so as you guys are talking,
I'm exercising and walking.

Speaker 32 (02:28:28):
Is that.

Speaker 22 (02:28:31):
We all no?

Speaker 11 (02:28:32):
I don't have to focus on anything. Maybe you can
focus interrupt me. I just I am focused on what
I'm just saying. We said, do men get more praise
for bare minimum than women?

Speaker 12 (02:28:46):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (02:28:49):
What are you talking about? So you're telling me that's
not a no?

Speaker 14 (02:28:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:28:59):
How is that not.

Speaker 9 (02:29:02):
God?

Speaker 11 (02:29:04):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (02:29:04):
Now, like what are we talking about?

Speaker 11 (02:29:08):
Your definition?

Speaker 17 (02:29:10):
We don't definition.

Speaker 12 (02:29:13):
What a praise mean?

Speaker 43 (02:29:14):
Somebody reads the definition?

Speaker 11 (02:29:17):
Yeah, can someone please read the definition of phrase to me?

Speaker 43 (02:29:20):
We don't change it. Somebody find the praise definition. Let's
see what it says.

Speaker 12 (02:29:24):
Tell your top breeze, get in there.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
Fine.

Speaker 11 (02:29:32):
Praise it's more appreeval or admiration. So if I admire
you and I see and I see you as a person,
that some form of admiration, I entertain you different forms
of praise?

Speaker 12 (02:29:51):
What do you not praise?

Speaker 14 (02:29:53):
No?

Speaker 12 (02:29:54):
It was it was. It was a bad argument from
the jump. Just continue, No, it's not.

Speaker 11 (02:30:04):
What I'm saying. Listen to what I'm saying. What I'm
saying is women can reward bad minimum behavior because sometimes
women unknowingly reinforce the same system by celebrating inconsistency out
of desperation.

Speaker 13 (02:30:21):
That's my point.

Speaker 11 (02:30:22):
And sometimes that looks like entertaining you. I don't know
what you're talking about.

Speaker 42 (02:30:27):
That sad.

Speaker 11 (02:30:30):
What just follow what I'm saying. What I'm saying, No,
you can, you can't be that lost point is what
are talking about?

Speaker 45 (02:30:48):
The praise, guys, is to express a favorable judgment of
command and to glorify a God or a saint, especially
by the attribution off.

Speaker 11 (02:31:02):
Okay, hold on, So my point is when you when
you are, when you accept any attention, when you accept
attention as affection or overcompensating emotionally, emotionally in hope of potential,
that is a form of praise. What are you talking about?

Speaker 12 (02:31:24):
I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 11 (02:31:27):
God, With all due respect, I'm talking.

Speaker 12 (02:31:34):
Just getting confused in this because what's up? How you've been?
It's good to rock with you?

Speaker 5 (02:31:38):
For what's up?

Speaker 12 (02:31:39):
I think?

Speaker 46 (02:31:40):
I think sex and women having sex with me just
a typical part of an interaction of to people that
she can like. Just because she's doing that particular act
with a man doesn't mean she's uplifting him and giving
him the recognition.

Speaker 5 (02:31:54):
You know that.

Speaker 11 (02:31:56):
Hold On, let me clarify. I know that we all
agree with that. I agree with that.

Speaker 17 (02:32:06):
I'm y'all.

Speaker 11 (02:32:07):
I don't want to raise my voice. Y'all not gonna
make it seem like I'm not making sense when I know,
damn well, I'm making sense. So let me articulate what
I'm saying. Rico, I agree with that. I think the
problem is how men and women view sex. When women
give sex to a man, it is her way of,

(02:32:29):
in a sense, praising him, glorifying you, uplifting him in
her mind, is what I'm saying. I'm not saying all
women do this. Obviously, I don't see it like that
because I don't have children, right, I don't see it
like that, So I don't. I don't. But there are women,
and I've heard it low type esteemed women who say

(02:32:49):
it that way. I know for a fact that men
don't view it that way. But I have met some
women with really messed up rational behind sex, behind a man,
behind chasing men, and that's how they often view it.
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 46 (02:33:07):
Okay, cool, you remember you know how men always say
it's a running joke. It's been a running joke forever.
And I know what you heard is too like push
he in the gift on Christmas puss he in the
gift on Valentine's Day, and men have always said that
because that's just the standing operating procedure when it comes
to being a relationship. That's not going over and beyond,
that's not doing I'm just trying to get you to see.

Speaker 11 (02:33:32):
You don't have anything.

Speaker 13 (02:33:34):
I'm speaking from a point of.

Speaker 11 (02:33:35):
View of how I am.

Speaker 46 (02:33:38):
It's not that serious. Sometimes, I'm just trying to get
you to see that. I think women know.

Speaker 3 (02:33:41):
Better than that.

Speaker 46 (02:33:42):
They choose not to go over and beyond, they choose
to stay on that level. They try to use that
as giving a man of some type of gift that
I'm doing this for you, But it makes no sense
because you enjoy sex just as much as I do.
You want to have the act just as much as
more so than I do, So you didn't do anything.
So I think women have for years have been using

(02:34:03):
that as an escapegoat to be like, well, I'm giving
you sex. But to be honest, men don't see it
that way because that's just a part of the package
deal that just naturally comes along with that. So when
you praise somebody or you want to do something, I'm
gonna go out and do something that I know that I.

Speaker 43 (02:34:19):
Wouldn't normally do.

Speaker 46 (02:34:20):
I'm gonna go over and beyond what you normally would receive,
which is sex. So maybe not this gonna sound funny.
Maybe if I was praising you, maybe I would let
you bring my best friend in on the deal. And
I'm not saying that that's something that I would be into,
but maybe someone might do that. Or maybe I'm gonna
go get your car cleaned, or maybe I'm gonna go
do something or send you away, or go get your

(02:34:41):
hair cut or something like that that would be something
out of the ordinary that a man would be like, Oh,
she recognizing me, or I can see the recognition aspect
of what she's trying to do, laying there giving me
something I'm used to getting. Always to most men, and
I think to most women too, it's not gonna be
seen as praise.

Speaker 11 (02:35:00):
I know, okay, I'm not gonna I'm gonna say this
and that I gotta go back to studying. I know
that when we have these conversations, we're speaking from many
different perspectives. I agree with you, there's no disagreeing there.
What I'm telling you is oftentimes how some women view sex,

(02:35:21):
and this is why you see a lot of bastard children.

Speaker 13 (02:35:24):
That's my point. It's cultural conditioning. Good men deserve rewards.

Speaker 11 (02:35:29):
You never heard a woman say that, oh he took
me on a nice day, I should give him something.
Many there are women who are raised to believe that
a man who is faithful, employed, or acts right should
be rewarded with sex. So the fact that y'all are
sitting here pretending that is praise, what are you talking about?

(02:35:51):
That these people are not gonna make it seem like,
first of all, I hate what this is why I
hate coming on club.

Speaker 9 (02:36:02):
I know, shut up, doctor.

Speaker 11 (02:36:03):
Bed on my rent. That's really when I come on here.
When I come on here, and it's always people who
don't fucking read a damn book. Help I throw a
book at your face, you wouldn't be able to identify it.
And then you're sitting here and arguing with me, a
person who's literally in law school who studies words, and

(02:36:24):
telling me I don't know what praise me like, y'all
are so fucking weird. In fact, put the ship in
chat GPT and said, is sex considered a form of praise?

Speaker 42 (02:36:37):
And literally.

Speaker 11 (02:36:40):
Yes, some women do you giving sex? As to men
as a form of praise or a reward. You're coming
coming on here and y'all are arguing with me when literally.

Speaker 35 (02:36:52):
Chat GPT who's smarter than your fucking ass would agree
that praise?

Speaker 11 (02:36:57):
That is the definition you're arguing with me.

Speaker 26 (02:37:00):
For smarter than smarter than people want to.

Speaker 5 (02:37:10):
Go on.

Speaker 11 (02:37:13):
The reason why I should them how stupid they are?

Speaker 6 (02:37:18):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (02:37:19):
The reason why you don't actually.

Speaker 45 (02:37:23):
That that praise, that sex, that that providing sex for
a man who is considered praise is because genuine women
that are in committed relationships do not give it up
to a man unless they are committed to the man,
especially those who want to wait till marriage and have
their right partner.

Speaker 15 (02:37:40):
They don't just some of them don't give it away, guine,
So how is that not praise.

Speaker 46 (02:37:44):
Because looking at a man, you're looking at a man
like like you give a doggie a treat. In other words,
you're saying that in relationships, just because I do will
comply to what you say, you want to give me
sex the moment that I don't. You want sex is
a standard part of a relationship. That's a standard part

(02:38:05):
of two people. That's not that's not going over that's
that's just all up. That's just walking operating standard. To me,
that's not you going over. But that's not praising. Any
woman that think that giving man sex is praise, that's
where the problem starts within her.

Speaker 45 (02:38:22):
That's sex is not about just pleasure though, sex is
also about, you know, creating a child.

Speaker 44 (02:38:33):
Yes, I stayed at the Highidy and Express last night,
so I'm smart. Like we're now just throwing a frisbee
a stupid around and everybody's just catching like here you go,
frisbee over here, over there, over there. We're really just
called pussy praise. Like I'm definitely going bad early tonight.
I can see this is gonna be a long tight Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:38:54):
This shit crazy because I don't get I didn't get
that ship on you. You give us, you praise me.

Speaker 11 (02:39:00):
Uh, it's crazy to me. I don't agree with that,
understand it. I like, I didn't get it.

Speaker 7 (02:39:11):
I couldn't get to my phone when she was saying,
I'm like, you were so so women and whoever, some
some of the women agreed to with her now don't know,
like they didn't you telling me that you praised that
nigga enough to you pray so you got to puss
it so that why you praise them? So why are
you praying someone? Why you just stay with that nigga?
Then when you pregnant your ass, then when you said
you're praying some more for much. So if y'all give

(02:39:33):
y'all pushed away from just just for just praising niggas,
just get your push away.

Speaker 9 (02:39:36):
Like that, then y'all bad motherfuckers.

Speaker 7 (02:39:39):
Y'all give y'all push aways and every nigga because y'all
praising every nigga. Y'all, I had six because it ain't
just one nigga. You motherfuckers ain't fuck you fucked over
ten niggas. I know you praise all ten niggas. Then
you got to I gotta go tell my nigga this
shit right. Here's first, there's a new ship I learned
from club out today. Women get pushed away because they
praise niggas. Okay, I got this ship.

Speaker 44 (02:39:58):
Yeah, said what she like and said she heard white
women said that the Well, it's got to be exhausting
as a woman to just lie like because it's a Tuesday, like,
let me, I ain't get enough lies then over the weekend,
so let me get my quarter up today and get
aliud Like white women just talk about, hey, you know
I fucked Charles and that was like, why do y'all
just belying the stop supply fock?

Speaker 41 (02:40:23):
I wonder when women like get rid of their baby daddy,
do they lose the praise that they was giving that nigga,
or like when they come in here and talk about
how trash that baby daddy is, it's like, well, you
was praising the trash. So it's like, at what point do.

Speaker 47 (02:40:37):
We realize that this shit is dumb as hell for
women to say, y'all giving niggas too, she is praise.
So every nigga that like, every woman that a nigga,
fuck a nigga praising them because we're giving them dick, Well,
that what you're saying.

Speaker 18 (02:40:50):
Her.

Speaker 31 (02:40:54):
Faithful to you and you're the only person she's You're
the only person she's fucking. You're saying that she's like
not crazy, is not giving that standard ship?

Speaker 41 (02:41:05):
Well you know, my god, you're saying conversation.

Speaker 11 (02:41:12):
This is scary. No, that's just that's not praising.

Speaker 42 (02:41:15):
Oh my god, with.

Speaker 12 (02:41:18):
Praise worshow Hollywood it goes praise is what I do?

Speaker 11 (02:41:23):
I mean, if women really think like that.

Speaker 12 (02:41:27):
It is. It's definitely what they call you.

Speaker 43 (02:41:32):
I'm Michael, say nothing. I hate you, you have nothing
to say.

Speaker 11 (02:41:40):
I figured shut the fun up, doctor me alone.

Speaker 12 (02:41:44):
So what call you? When they left and praise?

Speaker 5 (02:41:54):
This is what I do?

Speaker 12 (02:41:57):
Crazy, what.

Speaker 5 (02:42:06):
I just think.

Speaker 36 (02:42:11):
So if a girl got.

Speaker 5 (02:42:14):
To that though, y'all know that I do know what
she said.

Speaker 13 (02:42:21):
She just perfect.

Speaker 31 (02:42:23):
I don't think Porsche really meant that that's where she got. Yes,
she's gone that way, but I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 26 (02:42:32):
No, stop stop, stop, stop being in the making.

Speaker 44 (02:42:38):
Except Animal was right though he said he was the
first one actually said in the chat. He was like
pussy his praise and like she she was reading everything
in the chat, boy Animal said, and that was like
we were all asking that same question, like where are
you correlating this When the pussy become like women niggas
they don't even know their name, how is that praise
fucking niggas in the bathroom clubs.

Speaker 10 (02:43:01):
Jamaica Weekend, Miami Weekend, whip.

Speaker 44 (02:43:11):
Right, don't even know the niggas real nice from his
clubhouse name, you know, according.

Speaker 12 (02:43:19):
Club that doesn't go on the club that kind of
ship doesn't go.

Speaker 9 (02:43:27):
Biggie screaming prayer that nigga got plenty praise. Then on
this motherfucker, the clubs.

Speaker 30 (02:43:35):
All these women, what are you consider praise them.

Speaker 12 (02:43:40):
Them?

Speaker 43 (02:43:41):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 25 (02:43:42):
No?

Speaker 41 (02:43:42):
No, what is the man I praise for God?

Speaker 36 (02:43:45):
I don't praise you.

Speaker 43 (02:43:51):
Oh my God, I don't believe in God. You got
me saying that one Corey's room was dumb. Now we
gotta come around and y'all being dumb like it was
this dumb Tuesday. I was Taco Tuesday, just dumb Tuesday.
Dig or please we need cake? Please say this day.

Speaker 48 (02:44:11):
Some question is what are they teaching y'all at these universities,
Like what's going on? Because I know that the people
that be saying this should be all agreed up, like
like what class did y'all take to understand that this
ship was craized?

Speaker 26 (02:44:23):
What shat GPT got her degree?

Speaker 25 (02:44:27):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (02:44:27):
Stop bringing out in the conversation.

Speaker 12 (02:44:31):
A degree don't mean you smart.

Speaker 5 (02:44:32):
That just means you could pay attention for.

Speaker 41 (02:44:36):
So you have to pay attention to somework for what
a degree?

Speaker 11 (02:44:43):
A degree you study that specific area of stud d
it has others to do. A genius smart intelligence ET cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 12 (02:44:56):
That's all I'll be saying.

Speaker 43 (02:44:57):
People be good at their jobs and nothing else.

Speaker 12 (02:45:00):
They don't need to be good at the job. It's
a lot of degree.

Speaker 44 (02:45:03):
Now they good at their job. They just can't do
nothing exercise what they do. And they think they until
it just requires their job. If it does require and
tell just transfers over. And I don't like I had
a degree in finance and economics. I ain't got ship
to do with politics just because I got agree in finance.
I mean understand politics. I do because I study it.
I study the body, study your.

Speaker 26 (02:45:21):
Finance kind of pleasant economics more so.

Speaker 44 (02:45:24):
But they don't mean to understand like how geopolitics work.
Outside of that, there is some economic tie to it,
but outside of that there's even more.

Speaker 15 (02:45:32):
Doctor b I praise you, please.

Speaker 43 (02:45:36):
Thanks Amber to send the dog on you and start
yelling at that.

Speaker 41 (02:45:41):
So she praised you.

Speaker 12 (02:45:43):
Does that.

Speaker 24 (02:45:46):
Give you.

Speaker 12 (02:45:51):
Praise going on yelling at us?

Speaker 6 (02:45:55):
So that wasn't and it wasn't.

Speaker 43 (02:45:59):
That's a that thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:46:01):
I was yelling. Yeah, we do walking.

Speaker 5 (02:46:03):
All that we did.

Speaker 11 (02:46:07):
When he was frustrated with the GBT is just a
bunch of information that Professor.

Speaker 6 (02:46:15):
Other people wrote, and you generated through GBT, never.

Speaker 41 (02:46:22):
Had an original attacking portion.

Speaker 11 (02:46:26):
All of information is generated information.

Speaker 24 (02:46:29):
That's already okay, thank you.

Speaker 41 (02:46:31):
I know you know you heard it, because I don't.

Speaker 26 (02:46:36):
I don't think that the people I know this after
that though, And I don't know that lady.

Speaker 41 (02:46:41):
I wouldn't recognize her if she was walking down the street,
fucking incel cock sucking fag hordes, attacking porsches.

Speaker 3 (02:46:49):
Crazy.

Speaker 12 (02:46:52):
Yeah, you had.

Speaker 10 (02:46:54):
Was attacking about you?

Speaker 12 (02:46:55):
You had your lunch. Yeah, they want to praise?

Speaker 6 (02:47:02):
Yeah, who's attacking?

Speaker 43 (02:47:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:47:05):
I just said that was it?

Speaker 12 (02:47:06):
The piece of do you want to do? What do
you want to do? You want to fight?

Speaker 3 (02:47:10):
Shut your big fat sucking mouth, Shut your big fat
bro yo.

Speaker 12 (02:47:26):
I'm doing to point that phraise on this goddamn map.

Speaker 11 (02:47:31):
No, that's why I praised.

Speaker 42 (02:47:38):
No, Joe.

Speaker 26 (02:47:41):
You Joe Hey, why ma title title?

Speaker 3 (02:47:46):
You're being crazy right now?

Speaker 43 (02:47:49):
Yeah, I missed a good room. What was that Sunday
when the men in here were telling us about their heartbreak?
Was that Sunday and Saturday?

Speaker 5 (02:47:56):
What was the day was that God the heart.

Speaker 12 (02:48:01):
Whenever Brian and you.

Speaker 43 (02:48:03):
Missed the man would tell us about their heartbreak.

Speaker 12 (02:48:06):
The whole goddamn floor was.

Speaker 11 (02:48:14):
Yeah about your heartbreak right now.

Speaker 43 (02:48:17):
They were telling us about how you know something that
they brought the woman broke their hearts and them the
therapy and everything.

Speaker 5 (02:48:22):
It was.

Speaker 3 (02:48:23):
It was real cathartic that.

Speaker 12 (02:48:25):
It was about y'all.

Speaker 49 (02:48:29):
Y'all know, y'all do know what's live by the by
the man who's Mike. He was the one man one
who leading this ship, lead ship.

Speaker 44 (02:48:42):
Mike said, I gotta get this off my chest. Today
they question, yeah, black people seventy every.

Speaker 43 (02:48:54):
Yeah, he said. He lost like seventy pounds. He couldn't
eat a sleep. He was walking around Florida with no
shoes to night, just walk.

Speaker 12 (02:49:03):
Mute up. He was drying, drying his tears with the
hem of his garment.

Speaker 43 (02:49:11):
Man kind of way. Man.

Speaker 12 (02:49:13):
I was a thin guy. Back up, big, mute up, biggie,
think yeah, you was in the ring crime, bro in
the ring crime.

Speaker 5 (02:49:26):
To tell you some times that that's the song I
was saying, But big eat, chill up, man.

Speaker 12 (02:49:38):
You know you take your history lessons, your black history lessons.

Speaker 14 (02:49:41):
Can you take your you take your your your sick
in love crocodile tears?

Speaker 12 (02:49:45):
Man, take that into a keeps way.

Speaker 5 (02:49:51):
M hmm.

Speaker 43 (02:49:52):
They said they couldn't sleep, they couldn't eat.

Speaker 12 (02:49:54):
It was wild.

Speaker 15 (02:49:55):
But in the ring, your laugh is terrible.

Speaker 8 (02:50:11):
Doctor B's laugh worse than I don't think, worse than your.
Did you hear he was laughing yesterday?

Speaker 12 (02:50:19):
I heard how he was laughing to them. That's like
a dog barking in the distance. You ever heard that?

Speaker 5 (02:50:32):
What we sund like not.

Speaker 12 (02:50:36):
Sounding like?

Speaker 15 (02:50:36):
No, I wouldn't, doctor B.

Speaker 5 (02:50:39):
I was exactly she Please.

Speaker 1 (02:51:06):
You guys are fucking insane, every last one of you.
Should your party be praised for the bad minimum? I
don't know what the fuck is going on? The liquid
crack or coke?

Speaker 3 (02:51:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:51:17):
You choose you tell me, get back to me and
let me know what it is. Shall see you guys
and Agenda Wood, you got to pick ticket, cash it in.
Let's continue to talk about this open floor. Should your
partner be praised for the bad minimum? We're still talking
about this open stuff. Shall see you guys for pulling up.

Speaker 7 (02:51:40):
They don't wore it out, But I hate it for
the man who don't get praised for the bad minimum.

Speaker 9 (02:51:49):
They do it from their woman. If they got one.
If you had a woman that they were praise your air.
You you picked the wrong up for a woman.

Speaker 7 (02:51:56):
If you if you got a woman right now, she
don't praise your ad for the bad minium, but you
you just waking up being a man, then you got
the wrong woman.

Speaker 9 (02:52:03):
I hated for you men who never had the one
who to praise you. I hate it for y'all.

Speaker 7 (02:52:07):
She nigga nigga God wake up to a ten minute
every morning. I'm I'm alway to work at four in
the morning. I get ten minutes a four thirty five
every fucking morning to the How how much how much
you praise me?

Speaker 9 (02:52:19):
How much you thank God for me? And that she crazy?

Speaker 7 (02:52:21):
When woman don't praise you, then man, y'all don't even
really evacuate your home, motherfucking life and pick another woman.

Speaker 9 (02:52:26):
Man, just don't praise you for who you are as
a man.

Speaker 7 (02:52:28):
I don't know this ship crazy to me because I
heard a lot of men on her say that they
don't get praid.

Speaker 9 (02:52:33):
Men don't get praised for shit.

Speaker 12 (02:52:34):
Well speak for.

Speaker 7 (02:52:35):
Yourself, brother, Joe Jeo, you my brother, speak for yourself
because I'm I'm I guess I'm I'm inside the box.
By myself because I get praised every fucking day and
then and give me push it not a praise, So
that that is that's a that's a.

Speaker 9 (02:52:48):
Human thing to me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:52:49):
But being being a man, being an upstanding father, being upstate,
the husbands, being a lawyer, husband, may respectful husband, being a.

Speaker 9 (02:52:56):
God faird man.

Speaker 12 (02:52:57):
I get.

Speaker 7 (02:52:57):
I get praised every day. That's just how my wife
feels though she's that type of woman right there.

Speaker 9 (02:53:01):
So this nigga is what it is. I hate for you, brother.
They don't get that ship and y'all need to read
better with some ship.

Speaker 12 (02:53:06):
Now, I was gonna speak for me.

Speaker 25 (02:53:11):
I believe you should praise your partner for the bare
minimum because your partner don't have to be doing even
a bare minimum, So you should be grateful that your
partner choosing to do something. And as for me, you know, hies,
I definitely agree with you. I feel bad for these
niggas who don't. No, I'm dead serious, I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:53:37):
Haws.

Speaker 25 (02:53:37):
I do feel sorry for these niggas who don't get praised.
That's a requirement for me. You gotta come barren gifts,
you gotta come barren donations and all that when you
come to me.

Speaker 10 (02:53:46):
But I do see what niggas be going through, so
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 25 (02:53:49):
I agree with you, brother, But yeah, I think you
should praise your partner even if they do doing even
if they are doing a bad minimum, because they don't
have to do that.

Speaker 12 (02:54:00):
They don't gotta do that, so be grateful, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:54:05):
I disagree.

Speaker 50 (02:54:06):
I think the bare minimum, that's the whole point of
saying bare minimum. It's the absolute minimum you can do.

Speaker 3 (02:54:12):
Bro.

Speaker 50 (02:54:13):
It's fucking pathetic people that you work with that come
to work and do the bare minimum, or the motherfuckers
that leave you coming off work tired as a motherfucker.
A bare minimum motherfucker barely deserves a place to live.
A bare minimum motherfucker's drinking hot dog water and they're
eating hot dogs in Roben noodles all fucking week.

Speaker 12 (02:54:29):
The bare minimum, when I hear that word, is fucking pathetic.

Speaker 3 (02:54:32):
But that's just me.

Speaker 9 (02:54:33):
When I hear that word, trigger Warner.

Speaker 50 (02:54:43):
I'm triggering, damnit, you bare minimum motherfuckers. But I don't
know how y'all look at bare minimum like bare minimum
to me is some bullshit.

Speaker 5 (02:54:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 25 (02:54:58):
I mean, I feel you, But bare minimum don't don't
mean I gotta work harder like I don't gotta work
harder like that example you use. Just because I'm at
a job and my coworkers doing the bad minimum don't
mean I gotta work harder. I can choose to, but
I don't got to. And I'm gonna applaud you for
doing what you came to do. You did what you
were supposed to do, whether whether you next it out,

(02:55:21):
you did just enough to go home, you came and
did the job.

Speaker 10 (02:55:25):
So shout out to you, my nigga.

Speaker 12 (02:55:27):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (02:55:28):
I'm gonna do money and Joe, what's wrong with romans
man the project talking about the hot dog he's he poked,
I want to hot dollars?

Speaker 9 (02:55:41):
What's wrong?

Speaker 5 (02:55:44):
That's?

Speaker 9 (02:55:45):
You know what I'm saying that that you So you're
a bad week, wild as fuck all week? Maybe a
nigga said, so you don't know about uh?

Speaker 7 (02:55:55):
Well, when when people do their financial literacy ship when
they talk about saving and ship man man, a man
that saved, gonna eat what it was for you to survive.

Speaker 9 (02:56:06):
If you want to eat that ship. I went through
a whole fucking month.

Speaker 7 (02:56:09):
He's Romanu, and I saved every bit of ten recks
when I did this ship because I ain't have to
spend ship. So I don't know when when when people
mindset be it when they be talking about Romanu, like
y'all ain't never ate this ship before, Like some of
y'all ain't eating this ship now, some of y'all might
be slipping on the motherfuckers right Noward and.

Speaker 12 (02:56:30):
Hold you say eat.

Speaker 9 (02:56:34):
Man, Look, listen, my job whenout working. This motherfucker paid
me thirty dollars an hour.

Speaker 14 (02:56:40):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (02:56:42):
When I tell you I was doing over I worked
seven days a week for a whole my work thirty.

Speaker 41 (02:56:47):
Days over time, I'm just saying like you couldn't spend
a thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (02:56:52):
No, No, I want, I want.

Speaker 9 (02:56:54):
I want to spinish. Look, I want, I want.

Speaker 5 (02:56:57):
I was staying with my mom.

Speaker 9 (02:56:58):
I want spending ship.

Speaker 30 (02:56:59):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (02:56:59):
I'll say all my mom. When I say at my MoMA,
now the motherfucker I want spending that motherfucker thing, I
can always my mama was here, She'll tell you that ship.
I managed my ship to the tee Bro, I want
spending ship. I ain't have to spend ship. I'm talking
about talking about it for it back.

Speaker 9 (02:57:12):
To work ship. Now, I rode a bike to work, nigga.

Speaker 12 (02:57:15):
That's how.

Speaker 9 (02:57:15):
That's how. That's how couture this ship came.

Speaker 10 (02:57:17):
When I just said, like, you could have spent two
fifty your week on food.

Speaker 12 (02:57:22):
And not a still.

Speaker 9 (02:57:25):
You know how I got the wrong newse My mama
got food stamps. So I'm telling you about it had
to spend off for no.

Speaker 12 (02:57:31):
No.

Speaker 48 (02:57:32):
What I'm saying is this, if you made if you say,
ten bands in a month because you ate free milks,
if you it only took two fifty a week, you
could have still saved nine thousand, right.

Speaker 10 (02:57:46):
That Hollywood man, Now that makes too much sense.

Speaker 12 (02:57:50):
Man, listen, man, very minimum. What do I want to know?

Speaker 50 (02:57:55):
What the audience, what everybod else think when y'all hear
bare minimum? Because when I hear that ship, it just
I don't know, it triggered me into.

Speaker 12 (02:58:00):
Minimum is relative, man. You know what I'm saying. It's
relative to to where you are, to how you live it.

Speaker 14 (02:58:06):
You know what I'm saying, because bare minimum for a
motherfucker that is that is uh, you know, living a
certain kind of way that that bare minimum hell might
not even be eating every day, that bad bare minimum
might not even be having a meal every day. A
bare minimum for a mootherfucker that uh you know that's

(02:58:27):
worth uh you know, you know, you know, a few tickets,
it's gonna be another story. Bare minimum for hell, bare
minimum for a motherfucker that's worth half a billion is
gonna be a different story. So, I mean it depends
on where you you know the vantage point man that
you know, bare minimum is a.

Speaker 12 (02:58:47):
Is relative man to the rock.

Speaker 25 (02:59:00):
Yeah, because your bat minimum, uh what Big E would
call bare minimum, that might be more than enough for
what A woman could come to Big Biggie and present
her a certain way and Big Ee could be like, well,
that's the bare minimum. But to me, this woman could
be over achieving, you know what I'm saying. So, like

(02:59:22):
Biggy said, it's relative like that' shit subjective. That's why
I say, like, for me, the batimum my part If
it's my partner and they showing up doing a bare minimum,
yes I could ask you for more, but I'm not
gonna just downplay what you're doing because you don't have
to do what you're doing. So yes, I'm gonna pat
you on the back for doing what I asked you
to do, even if it's the bare minimum.

Speaker 14 (02:59:44):
I'll tell you what, one thing you hear on Clubhouse
a lot, and you can really tell where a lot
of these dudes are coming from when they say shit
like this depends on how they you know, how they
articulate this shit, right, Like I've heard dudes on this
motherfucker say that a woman cooking for them, uh, you know,
even respecting them, right, woman respecting them, a woman showing

(03:00:07):
up a certain way, you know. Uh, you know, one,
you know what I'm saying toes on the line, that
that's some type of luxury. Motherfucking that's the price of injury.

Speaker 3 (03:00:20):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 12 (03:00:22):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (03:00:23):
And so you know what I'm saying, Like you can
tell that a lot of these motherfuckers out here used
to settle them for less.

Speaker 12 (03:00:29):
So so you know, hell, you think that cooking and
cleaning and sex and all.

Speaker 14 (03:00:34):
This kind of shit it's some type of luxury or
a woman doing you a favor here, you're probably in
last place, and so your bell metal because hell yeah,
I ain't that shit is Come on, man, that's the
that's the price of injury.

Speaker 12 (03:00:48):
That's that's that's that's that's that arrives at the door.

Speaker 14 (03:00:51):
You feel me in. So you got but you got
dudes that that that that's a luxury item for them.
So their bare minimum is you know, maybe you know,
getting getting the sister cooking the meal for them.

Speaker 12 (03:01:02):
Man once every blue moon. I mean, y'all have heard
that before. I ain't. I know I'm not the only
one that hears that. Ship the mother fucking help.

Speaker 50 (03:01:14):
Yeah, but bare minimum implies that it's definitely like you
doing the extremely least amount that you can do to
get by bear Like, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 51 (03:01:25):
I'm my partner for doing bare minimum because if you're
doing bare minimum, that minimum, that's what you should be doing.

Speaker 6 (03:01:33):
So why I'm I.

Speaker 12 (03:01:34):
Praise you or give you a cookie for what you
should be.

Speaker 14 (03:01:37):
For Some people are used to settling for less. That's
like like that's their default. The default is the hell.
The bar set in the fucking toilet, the bar set
in hell. Mhm hmmm, fucking that sets the bar in hell.

(03:01:57):
You tatious and low and low, and they don't expect ship,
and so you know they're the bare minimum, you know,

(03:02:18):
out of mind, you know thing that it's.

Speaker 12 (03:02:20):
Gonna be you know, extremely minimal.

Speaker 2 (03:02:26):
You know that's not a lot of these motherfuckers in
last place man, and you can hear it in what
they expect and when they articulate their expectations. So, you know,
bare minimum for a for a low shooting motherfucker sit.
You know it's gonna be less than a pity you
feel the.

Speaker 12 (03:02:45):
Kind of ship.

Speaker 3 (03:02:53):
Do you think they deserve no praise?

Speaker 12 (03:02:54):
Though? Big let me read the questions. I think, I
think you know.

Speaker 14 (03:03:01):
I don't think you know deserve I can't say what
they deserve, but I I can say that, you know,
people who used to being in last place praise. Okay,
if you used to come in last place in the
in the sixth man race, hell you gonna praise fifth place.

Speaker 12 (03:03:20):
But if you used to win him ship, everything other
than that is is ain't and shit that shit ain't.
That shit ain't worthy of praise.

Speaker 14 (03:03:29):
But if you motherfucker being used to losing, coming to
dead last, yeah he gonna praise fifth place. He gonna
praise get praised fourth place. So it's all relative, you.

Speaker 5 (03:03:39):
Know what I'm saying, though you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (03:03:43):
But I'm saying, if if the person who is who
is who is giving them praise is a last place motherfucker.

Speaker 10 (03:03:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (03:03:51):
They gonna praise anything that that that is better than
last place, even though the motherfucker didn't even place in
the whole goddamn race.

Speaker 43 (03:03:59):
That don't mean that don't The question is do they
deserve it?

Speaker 14 (03:04:02):
But what I'm saying is the person who determines whether
they deserve praise is the one giving it to him.

Speaker 12 (03:04:10):
The only person that you flipping the question to a
question he's supposed to just No, I'm not flipping the question.

Speaker 14 (03:04:16):
What I'm saying is I can't tell if this motherfucker
is over here getting praised for the bare minimum. Hell,
I'm not praising this motherfucker. Hell, his old lady is
praising it, so she feels like he's deserving a praise.
To see a last place motherfucker too. I can't tell
the next motherfucker what he deserves. Hell, you do whatever

(03:04:38):
you get, that's what you deserve. So if you're getting praised,
then you somebody feels like you deserve it.

Speaker 50 (03:04:46):
Let's say you equally yo, and you're getting a bare
minimum from your woman.

Speaker 12 (03:04:50):
No, I'm not accepting the bare minimum, So I don't
even know. I'm not accepting that. I'm not accepting that shit.
That's it, that's all that. The answer was, No, No,
that's but that's me though.

Speaker 14 (03:05:05):
But you can't tell I can't tell the next motherfucker
what the fuck the next motherfucker got going on, because
the next motherfucker he ain't. He ain't setting the bar
as high as I set the bar. See some of
you motherfuckers. Hell, you know what I'm saying. What motherfucker
owe you two thousand dollars? Man, you're gonna accept the

(03:05:25):
thousand of it? I ain't accept the shit. You feel me,
you hear what I'm saying. So I can't tell the
next motherfucker what he gonna accept and what he's deserving of.
I can tell you what I'm what I'm gonna accept
and I'm not gonna accept and what I'm deserving of,
And I can't tell you about the next motherfucker.

Speaker 50 (03:05:42):
Yeah, yeah, we agree, I mean yeah me personally, No,
you ain't coming with that shit. Anybody got any push back.

Speaker 26 (03:06:12):
And big me, I'm not getting in your personal business.
But do you consider your woman giving you.

Speaker 12 (03:06:19):
Say that again?

Speaker 26 (03:06:20):
Do you consider when your woman gives you something as praise.

Speaker 12 (03:06:25):
She gives me something, or when she give you something,
you know, have sex with you? The fuck?

Speaker 26 (03:06:31):
No, man, come on, man, when you I'm just asking
you because you.

Speaker 12 (03:06:37):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (03:06:39):
That's just not no.

Speaker 5 (03:06:40):
No.

Speaker 26 (03:06:40):
The only reason why.

Speaker 52 (03:06:41):
I'm asking you, bro, is because you was being used
and the person trying to make their point. And I
was like, ain't no way in hell. In my head,
I said to myself, I say, ain't no way in hell.

Speaker 26 (03:06:51):
BIGI think that ship.

Speaker 12 (03:06:52):
Oh, that's what I was saying. People. A lot of
folks set the bar. Hell. The bar is set in
the toilet, you know, set in hell? Man, like hell?
You know, nah, o, how the.

Speaker 14 (03:07:05):
Fucking sex praise? But that's what when that shit ain't
even Yeah?

Speaker 12 (03:07:10):
You know that hell.

Speaker 14 (03:07:12):
You know, a woman ain't doing you no favors by
other sex with you? When you ain't doing that no
motherfucking favors. That's something that represents, uh, you know, the
however y'all feel.

Speaker 12 (03:07:22):
About each other or whatever y'all want to share with
one another.

Speaker 36 (03:07:25):
That ain't no.

Speaker 12 (03:07:26):
But you know, yeah, like I'll the fuck you look like?

Speaker 5 (03:07:29):
Man?

Speaker 12 (03:07:29):
What a woman look like?

Speaker 40 (03:07:31):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (03:07:31):
What a what a dude look like, say, for instance,
right on his birthday, his sister show up.

Speaker 12 (03:07:39):
You know what I'm saying. She ain't, did she?

Speaker 14 (03:07:40):
She show up in Linzie talking about happy birthday, man,
and the motherfuckering accept that. And where's the motherfucking money
you're talking about, Willa, Goddamn buddy.

Speaker 51 (03:07:57):
I do feel like that something men do accept that,
like birthday sex, anniversary sex, the lingerie like and so
women think that is like.

Speaker 50 (03:08:08):
A gift, majority of definite earlier tonight. Would you say
the majority or the minority.

Speaker 3 (03:08:22):
That.

Speaker 51 (03:08:22):
I don't know, but I've heard a lot of women
and men, especially on Clubhouse or you know, be like,
oh yeah, that that birthday sex, that anniversary sex. So
I would say on clubhouse is probably a majority. In
real life it's probably a minority, figgers.

Speaker 12 (03:08:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 44 (03:08:47):
I think I run probably the biggest club on the
Clubhouse just for black men, just completely.

Speaker 43 (03:08:53):
I don't think I've ever heard that.

Speaker 12 (03:08:58):
I think you're making that up. I do.

Speaker 3 (03:09:02):
Dig go on, Ethan Cake.

Speaker 5 (03:09:05):
I don't think.

Speaker 28 (03:09:06):
I don't think.

Speaker 9 (03:09:10):
Or be a gift, but.

Speaker 53 (03:09:13):
At least for my personal husband, sex is a big
part of intimacy for him, So.

Speaker 13 (03:09:22):
I make sure that it is a time of praise.

Speaker 53 (03:09:26):
I wouldn't like, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't do oh birthday,
Happy birthday.

Speaker 13 (03:09:31):
Here's no, You're worth more than that to me.

Speaker 53 (03:09:34):
But the fact that intimacy sex is a big part
of intimacy for him, I make sure that I you
know what I mean, I pull out all the stops
for him. So I make sure that he feels praised
while we're having sex. But that's just one area for

(03:09:55):
me at least.

Speaker 3 (03:09:59):
Does he praise you as well?

Speaker 43 (03:10:00):
I would imagine in different ways.

Speaker 13 (03:10:02):
My sex drive is not as high as his, so
it's different for me.

Speaker 50 (03:10:07):
But yeah, so you don't feel gratification while y'all are
having sex?

Speaker 17 (03:10:13):
What are we doing?

Speaker 15 (03:10:15):
I do feel the closeness.

Speaker 36 (03:10:17):
It's mutually, you know.

Speaker 43 (03:10:20):
That's a little personal for their relationship.

Speaker 4 (03:10:22):
Bro, that don't matter to me.

Speaker 53 (03:10:29):
Y'all know who me and my husband are. We we
be on this app letting out all the little gems.
But but no, from like I said, for me, it's different.
It's like different love languages. Not that I don't feel
fulfilled when we have sex, very fulfilling, but for me,
it's more time spent.

Speaker 6 (03:10:49):
It's more.

Speaker 13 (03:10:51):
You know, I'm tired, so you help me with the dishes.

Speaker 11 (03:10:54):
Ship like that.

Speaker 13 (03:10:54):
That makes me feel seen and appreciated. But yeah, it's
just different.

Speaker 43 (03:11:07):
I really just women understand what praise is.

Speaker 5 (03:11:10):
But go ahead.

Speaker 36 (03:11:14):
Praise uh the bare minimum thing that was that's interesting.

Speaker 54 (03:11:20):
So like if the bare minimum is cooking, like I
can't praise my wife for cooking for us. Like if
if the bare minimum is cleaning and I come home
to a clean house, I can't praise my wife for
having a house clean.

Speaker 11 (03:11:41):
I mean you can, yeah, but.

Speaker 13 (03:11:48):
She gets a ghost on the cookie for.

Speaker 36 (03:11:50):
That, so it's okay. Like, so this is the thing,
like the.

Speaker 54 (03:11:57):
This is not a competition, Like there are no wives
other than my wife in the house.

Speaker 36 (03:12:06):
She's the only person doing this thing.

Speaker 54 (03:12:11):
So like I can understand if this if I have
five wives, Yeah, I guess wishall would say will kind
of be valid. But she the only one doing this.
She's the only one performing these things. She's the only
one putting in the effort in something in particular for
me and the family. Like she's doing this for people

(03:12:32):
outside of herself, even if it's the bare minimum. I'll
see why it'll be an issue to praise her for
being the selfless.

Speaker 38 (03:12:44):
Juicy, but how are you.

Speaker 3 (03:12:47):
Chuckle blee.

Speaker 38 (03:12:53):
No, I think partners should be praised for the bare
minimum because five years on the club else men and
women can't even find the opposite sex to do the
bare minimum or have someone do the bare minimum for them.

Speaker 12 (03:13:08):
Thank you so much, Javis.

Speaker 25 (03:13:11):
What you said is basically what I said, Thank you
for breaking it down so eloquently. If I ax her
to do the ben if I ax her to do
something and she did the bare minimum of debt, she
still did it, so that deserves a thank you, that

(03:13:32):
deserves I appreciate it because she didn't have to do
it at all, and I appreciate you doing it.

Speaker 12 (03:13:41):
I asked you to do it and you did it.
Thank you.

Speaker 38 (03:13:45):
Yeah, relationship rooms or the relationship side on here would
suck if people had men and women doing the bare
minimum for them.

Speaker 12 (03:13:54):
You don't.

Speaker 38 (03:13:55):
So if you find someone that can do at least
the bare minimum, well thank you, and if you think them,
they'll probably do go above and beyond.

Speaker 41 (03:14:04):
So what are we saying thank you?

Speaker 36 (03:14:06):
And phraise is totally different.

Speaker 12 (03:14:08):
That's what we're pretty much saying.

Speaker 38 (03:14:09):
Whatever.

Speaker 54 (03:14:11):
No, So like even if I praise her like, hey, hey, baby,
you the I told my wife the other day, like, man,
I appreciate everything you be doing, bab like it and
it that encompasses like the cook and the laundry, the
stuff that would be bare minimum to some people. Bro, Like,
I appreciate it and you're great at it. That that

(03:14:34):
that's me praising her for something she's doing. But like
I said, I don't see what the issue is when
she the only motherfucker in the house.

Speaker 38 (03:14:45):
Let me ask you this question, pra North, So let
me ask you a question.

Speaker 6 (03:14:50):
Then, what are people?

Speaker 38 (03:14:51):
What are What is the number one thing that people
come on here to complain about.

Speaker 12 (03:14:59):
Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:15:01):
Loneliness.

Speaker 38 (03:15:03):
Loneliness that means they can't even find someone to commit
to them to do the bare minimum?

Speaker 3 (03:15:10):
Am I incorrect?

Speaker 12 (03:15:14):
Mm hmm, keep cooking.

Speaker 38 (03:15:19):
If you find someone that can do the bare minimum,
they should be praised because leave it to you, guys,
leave it to clubhouse. That's scarce.

Speaker 25 (03:15:32):
I'm confused because saying I appreciate you is literal praise,
like that is literally.

Speaker 54 (03:15:40):
Literally, that's literally it's literally like it's no different than
what you do with God.

Speaker 36 (03:15:46):
You tell God, thank you.

Speaker 12 (03:15:48):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 36 (03:15:51):
Everything he do, you praise him by doing that, Like,
it's no different. I think it's deeper than that.

Speaker 55 (03:16:00):
You think it's deeper than that, but it's not deeper
than that. The bare minimum is a foundation. It's just
like you know anything, It's like the small molecules and everything.
All of that stuff is important. So like the small
things that a person do that's good, Yeah, definitely praise it.

(03:16:23):
Because if you look at like abusive relationships, a lot
of abusive relationships starts from the smallest disrespect and then
it grows. It grows like a cancer. So like when
it comes to like somebody doing something you know, the
bare minimum that's like good and positive, Yeah, you should
praise that because they could do the bare minimum on

(03:16:43):
something negative and then next thing, you know, this is
how domestic violence happens, This is how suicide happens, this
is how killing happens from like the bare minimum of
negative things. So praise the bare minimum of the positive.
I'll leave it right there.

Speaker 54 (03:17:00):
The new bare minimum hold is that you get praised
for doing the bare minimum. If I can't even get
praise out of you for for me contriving to the
bare minimum, bed. Hey, man, I don't understand that.

Speaker 36 (03:17:18):
I don't know if his clubs the dog.

Speaker 5 (03:17:19):
You know, you're not how disrespect for that is?

Speaker 25 (03:17:24):
Yeah, that's crazy, Jovis. I appreciate everybody who does something
for me. If you do something, it don't have to
be my girl. Man Jonvis, If you gave me a
ride to work, I appreciate you, my nigga, I appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (03:17:39):
And so and so to see y'all.

Speaker 14 (03:17:41):
I'll tell you what then, since y'all believe in praising
folks for the bare minimum, go ahead and heat praises
on your children next time they bring you in seventies
in the in the house. That's what I'm saying is, listen,
that's the bare minimum that it takes to pass. They passed.
So gone ahead and raise your children and and and

(03:18:01):
and and celebrate that, because then what you're gonna be
doing is celebrating mediocrity.

Speaker 12 (03:18:07):
Because that's but big, big e. It's in some but
in some circles, right it is.

Speaker 25 (03:18:15):
It's a big thing for a child just to get
a g just to get a ged.

Speaker 10 (03:18:20):
High school diploma.

Speaker 25 (03:18:24):
But because of your but but biggie, because of your circumstances, Yes,
I'm gonna praise you for doing a bare minimum, because
that level what I call a bad minimum. What we're
saying as the bare minimum, as a g ed, that
might have been big for them. So guess what I'm
gonna praise you for that.

Speaker 14 (03:18:41):
Gs called that's called settling for less man. But my
wife also, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying she's
your child. What I'm saying is I'm talking about the
principal of praising the bare minimum. You know what I'm saying,
I don't think her father shouldn't be praised for being
a father. That's what you're supposed to be doing. Mother

(03:19:02):
shouldn't be praised for being a mother. You know what
I'm saying. Like they like like you know what I'm saying.
We have we have we have slid so far down
down the lodder of expectations, right. You know what I'm
saying that we praise mediocrity. I'm not praising mediocrity.

Speaker 10 (03:19:20):
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 14 (03:19:21):
I'm not praising mediocrity in my in in the sister
and I'm not praising and I don't expect mediocrity if
I'm operating in a mediocre way of a basic, bare
minimum way. I don't expect praise from that. I don't know, man,
but for what when you can do better?

Speaker 5 (03:19:42):
But I know you.

Speaker 14 (03:19:45):
Praise that's a matter of opinion. I don't really see
it as praise, but I mean.

Speaker 12 (03:19:55):
Opinion.

Speaker 5 (03:19:57):
Am I tripping?

Speaker 12 (03:19:59):
What you say? Don't think it is? Am I tripping?
So I don't think it is either Like I'm humbled.
I'm humble.

Speaker 50 (03:20:08):
I tell mo, fuck, thank you, you're doing your job.
I'll give an occasional thinking. I'm not praise is going
above and beyond. I feel like praises. I feel like
a different level. But maybe I'm tripping.

Speaker 2 (03:20:30):
Y'all shot everybody down up on the motherfucking wall floor.
Y'all shot everybody down. God damn, it's looking like a rap.
I'll be back in tomorrow. I'm coming in. We'll have
another conversation. I appreciate everybody. Yeah, I'll hit you too,
everybody you already know. I will be back in four

(03:20:52):
hundred side tomorrow morning. Yeah, you'll do something and then
we'll come back in here and do another topic. I'll
see y'all tomorrow. Appreciate y'all banging

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