Gender Warz World Wide Episode 8 - "Who Has More Dating Power?" - The Network Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all should already know what time it is with me
when I go up and you've been picking some people up.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let's go, Hey, staying.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
At your dress because it's through something other ship that
you then being through.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
You say that you a lesbian girl? Me too? Hey,
girls won't girls where I'm from? Heah, girls won't girls?
Girls won't girls where I'm from? Yeah, girls won't girls? Hey, well,
girls won't girls where I'm from? Hey? Can I and
gender war?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's about to go Korean victims battle some people and
all my fans.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
That might have called me on a crazy day. Fo
your niggas think you're trying to blother me on a
fade away. I've been on this ship only vibe with
a payday. Say you go that way? I guess we
both go the same way. Girls won't girls where I'm from?

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, where were both from? You just got to Miami.
The hotel rons biggas tell you that they love you,
but it fail through.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
So you're doing forty two because you hey be going
on that dress because of s telling now of ship
that you I'm being texting me and say I need
to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
What we're doing for Sean what's Friday? The fuck is
we all afraid of? What is we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:18):
My god?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I might come.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm not gonna, I don't know standing at the dress
because it's yeah, telling them how the ship that you're
being say that you'll let me and grab me too. Hey,
girls want girls where I'm from.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
What you're afraid of? Well, I gotta be that as
soon as I come in here.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Bro, damn for sean joke. My question for the day.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Ain't gonna lie with you is can women and men
be friends with no hitting Agenda'll be pinging this up
to some more friends and ship, but if you want
to chime in and hop in, feel free while I
ping this room up over to you.

Speaker 8 (02:01):
Brother, Yeah, I would say, I would say it's very difficult,
very difficult because nature takes hold, you know what I mean,
for women and men to be genuine friends. And I
feel like it might be harder on the man's part

(02:24):
because naturally we're inclined when we're with the women to physically,
you know, conquer the situation. So it's just something ingrained
in us, is in our DNA. So I don't know
how women feel, but and it may be way easier
for them because their power lies in the men that

(02:48):
they can friend zone and not sleep with. You see
what I'm saying, when our power lies in the women
that we could conquest, so to speak. But yeah, I
would say, can it be done, yes, you know, yes. However,
is someone taking an l mentally possibly probably more on

(03:10):
a man's side, I would say yeah, in normal circumstances,
So yeah, it can happen. But it's it's almost like
this is this is my personal opinion. As men, It's
it's damnar impossible because eventually, you know, like not eventually,

(03:30):
like if she's an attractive woman, I'm gonna wanna be
intimate with her.

Speaker 9 (03:35):
And even if I'm.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
Not, and I don't push that thought, that thought is
in the back of my mind, and it's kind of
like I'm not a genuine friend because that that hunger
is always there.

Speaker 9 (03:44):
So uh, it's it's it's it's a difficult one.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
The answer is yes, but it's gonna be taxing on
one of the people, at least in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Hmmm, that's interesting, Frado, that's interesting. I feel like it
can be.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It can be.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It just depends on the situation. It depends on who
you are as a person. I don't know, man, A
lot of people going in situations and feel entitled. I
want to talk about that shit too, Like there's too
much entitlement, bro, Like why people feel entitled to you know,
different shit? Like what if the person really do it?
Does want to stay friends? Like I want to be
your friend. I want to keep it right here? Why

(04:22):
do some people don't want to keep it? They're afraid
of you know what I'm saying, Like, why do they
have a hard time? Let's keep chopping it up, bro.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
No, absolutely, it's because remember it's our instinct of lustings
that it's that dopamine. Is that when we see a
beautiful woman, if you a straight man, you're gonna want
to conquer it. It's just something within us.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
And then you know, for and it's usually us that
pushes the envelope usually, and if the female pushes the envelope,
it's usually because that guy is him.

Speaker 9 (05:00):
Guy is a swagged out dude.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
A lot of females already like him, and he actually
put her in the friend zone where he's actually treating
her like a genuine friend. Because usually when it comes
to certain women in the friend zone that I have
in the friend zone that actually put them in a
friend zone. I had to reverse the friend zone because
they had me in there. And then once I realized,

(05:22):
oh shoot, I'm actually in the friend zone for real,
I just did what I had to do. I got
in better shape, I leveled up, so to speak. While
me and her are still friends. So now she's now
and then it switches because now I put them in
a friend zone. Now she's on my joint because I
pretty much I'm treating her just like I would treat

(05:44):
one of the homies, just giving.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
Her advice, real advice that oh yah, I see you
over there.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're tricking out my hus You're tricking
the maha bread I see you. So now she don't
like that. She don't like that, she don't like the
fact that, hold on, he's actually friend zoning me. And
now it's is reversing the game. So to be honest,
unless you married, or you in a serious relationship and
your friends like the double date friends like you and

(06:12):
her man and her and her friends, and then you're
all friends type of situation, that's better because now you
have somebody that's actually it am serving as a buffer.
But if there's no buffer, and both of y'all are
just friends and single, or one of y'all single and
the other one is not. Nah, I already see a problem.
And then remember most dudes that's in the friend zone

(06:36):
is in the friend zone because they're either too scared
to act to smash. They either got viewed as a
brother because they took too long to smash, or they
just say, ah, she's really a friend, and then mentally
as a man, he's just like, nah, she's not my type,
or I don't see her attractive enough to want to
pursue on that level. But for the most part, more

(06:59):
guy are gonna kind of really want to be friends,
you know, not because we have a genuine thought of friendship.
Because think about it, this is just a real quick situation.
If you and I are friends, stack what is the friendship.
We're gonna communicate effectively. We're going to give each other ideas,

(07:21):
give each other thoughts of making money. If I see
you and we're around each other, I'll buy you a beer,
you buy me a beer, you know, whatever the case
may be. That's a friendship we build on that. I
ask a lot of men, do you have that type
of caliber friendship with the women or is it a
situation where you're the unofficial boyfriend that doesn't sleep with her,

(07:45):
but you're doing exactly what a boyfriend would do. So
that's the difference. A lot of guys are not friends.
They're just boyfriends without the benefit.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh I'm afraid of what is going on?

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So you're saying most of them get friend zoned, right, Mary,
he's saying most of them get friend zone zone.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
He's saying that most of them were just brothers. So
you don't go too hard. This is what I hear.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Fred If they don't go too hard, they will be
friends to you gotta show some times you gotta apply
some pressure for Sean.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You agree?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
SOO, you agree, Mari, you agree, you gotta apply some
pressure for Sean.

Speaker 10 (08:21):
Let's kick it off many however, y'all will take us
to the heaven and che to the rocks going on.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Good morning.

Speaker 11 (08:34):
Who want to go first?

Speaker 12 (08:36):
I mean ladies always first?

Speaker 13 (08:38):
Okay, Fredo, what are they not benefiting? Benefiting from exactly.

Speaker 12 (08:45):
She called dog?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
She called dog freedo.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Oh my.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yo, No, it's all good, it's free right, No worries,
no words like your favorite pasta, so know how it is.
But but ultimately, you know, what I'm saying is a
lot of men that are quote unquote friends with women
right now, they do not really want to be friends
with those women. They wanted something intimate, but the woman

(09:16):
said no, or the guy was too scared to make
a move and got stuck in that position and is
secretly hoping that something could transpire hopefully. But for the
most part, when I'm saying, when it comes to a friendship,
a real friendship, when when men think of friendship, I

(09:36):
think of someone who I can engage with, who's gonna
who's I'm going to engage with, and I could build
build mentally. He could tell me ways to generate revenue,
different things, we bounce, ideas like that, things of that nature.
A lot of times when I'm and I'm gonna speak
for myself, if I'm friends with a woman, depends on
a caliber woman. But for the most women I'm friends with,

(10:00):
I'm usually dumbing myself down and I'm not discussing what
I'm discussing with my guy friends. So is it really
a friendship or is it just, you know, uh, pretty
much a boyfriend without the benefits and so that's what
I was pretty much saying, what's it? Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Demi?

Speaker 13 (10:20):
Okay, No man wants to be about around men all
the time, So he's actually the benefit is being around
the feminine energy. He's it's healing well. As long as
she's nurtured. Like if she's nurturing you, she she's doing
what she do naturally and instinctively.

Speaker 14 (10:39):
That's about it. Her just being there is enough.

Speaker 13 (10:42):
I don't know about if I was a man, I
don't want to be around y'all all the time.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Talk about it though, what the.

Speaker 14 (10:52):
So her?

Speaker 15 (10:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (10:54):
Y'all want her to be like a seal doing tricks
at Sea World, Right, it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 15 (11:01):
She's just gonna exist.

Speaker 12 (11:02):
And that's what you mean. You mean, joy, I know
you knew about that popping on the handstand.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
She better do a trick, yo, Yo, Sean said, she
better do a trick? What you talking about? You better
be at Sea World.

Speaker 12 (11:16):
World, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (11:18):
But that's a friend. A friend is not performing for me.
A friend is just there.

Speaker 12 (11:21):
We're just there on the couch, yeah, popping it. I
don't have woman friend?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah for Sean, I can't be stuck in the friend zone,
especially if I'm trying to get it though, Bro, you
know what I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (11:34):
So hold on.

Speaker 12 (11:36):
I just don't have women friends nowhere. I got sisters
and ladies. Auntie's sisters and ladies. That's what I got.

Speaker 13 (11:47):
So him not making the move is entirely his own
fault because there's many moments you could be alone with
her and you could switch you know, the energy.

Speaker 12 (12:00):
That's creeped out though, Like, because here's the thing that
that's why I call these boys predators. Who Why would
I pursue a woman? Right, and I be around her
and I want her and I don't let her know.
That's one, right, I'm already creeped out. That's that's that's predator.
That's predatory for me to try to befriend you on
a pursue you on the front to being your friend

(12:23):
and then you take it friendly and then I'm low
key trying to convince you to be romantic with me
without being direct. That's creepy. Two, Why I pursue you
and like, hey, I like you, and you're like I
don't like you, and I'm like, all right, let's be
friends so I can still be around you because I
like you after you said you don't like me. Now
I'm a super creep and like, so you're saying he

(12:44):
need to make a move, make a move when I'm
creep the fuck out, Like making a move is super predatory.
And here here's the last thing right here, stud here,
here's the last thing right here. If if she liked me,
I wouldn't have to make a move. Women, women, especially
in proximity to a man, let it be known that
she like him. Like, if we just had a borrow,

(13:07):
we don't know each other, she probably not gonna do
nothing right. If she really liked me, she might give
me a compliment or something. But if we're in a
friend group, man, she gonna do shit. Man, she's gonna
start talking to me. She gonna pick on me, she
gonna sit next to me at dinner, she gonna ask
the homies about me. Like, we gotta stop acting like
women don't like men and don't do shit about it.

Speaker 13 (13:31):
Sometimes we get so comfortable with that man just being
there that the girl knows that you like her, and
she's like, damn, I was just waiting for you to
say something he's like, oh shit, I could have yeah
for two years.

Speaker 15 (13:44):
Now, I already knew you.

Speaker 16 (13:46):
You wanted me like that.

Speaker 12 (13:47):
But I just that's that's one time out of two
hundred thousand, so it come on, stop the cat.

Speaker 13 (13:52):
But that would be my reaction. I'm just like, yeah, already,
but you need to make the move.

Speaker 17 (13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (13:58):
But even then, like a woman want him to make
the move, she would still give him physical behavioral signs
that she's interested, king like he would. She would make
that sign like she went, not like be my boyfriend,
but she's, like I said, sit next to him, intentionally

(14:20):
call him a lot. Like here's the thing when you
when a dude is when a dude is a woman's friend,
she don't be hitting them up early in the morning
checking on him. She don't just randomly try to see
how he doing. She's not randomly investing in how he's feeling,
what he's thinking about.

Speaker 17 (14:38):
He is.

Speaker 12 (14:38):
He is a resource. They share buddy buddy stuff. She's
telling him about her boyfriend or man, you know, dilemmas
or excursions.

Speaker 18 (14:48):
He is.

Speaker 12 (14:49):
He he is the gay friend sat.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Hey, yo, and yo, what you say?

Speaker 16 (14:55):
Fore?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
He's the what bro?

Speaker 12 (15:00):
Hey, I'm about to up, my my brother King, and
my real quick is my dog.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
King? How you feel about what Sean was saying? My brother?
Thanks for coming up? What's going on?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Thanks for running the ward man feeling.

Speaker 19 (15:17):
Bro feeling cool and in a little SoundBite that I heard, Yeah,
that there's validity to that, and I want to hear
more before I, you.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Know, start trying.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, I think King, honestly, I think women and men
they can be friends without And it just depends on
the person you're dealing with, if they're mature enough, if
they got that mental capacity right, Because, like for Sean said,
if I'm pursuing you, trying to be your friend and
then I creep up and you know, it's kind of predatorial,
I'd like to, you know, be one hundred off written right.

(15:53):
So that's what I hear from my brother. For Sean,
He's like, Yo, I'm being a hundred off rip.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm not. I'm not slapping it on you later, you
know what I'm saying. Let's continue this ship man? Who
else want to chart?

Speaker 20 (16:02):
Men? So?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
What's up? Demy?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Fredo Ranya, thank you for coming up? Can women and
men be friends without a hinting an agenda?

Speaker 21 (16:10):
My best's my best friend of' over what twenty My
son's going to be twenty five. So my best friend
of over twenty six years is a guy. So in fact,
all of my closest friends are males. I guess it
depends on the people. I don't sleep with my friends.
I don't. My whole approach to romantic any kind of

(16:31):
any you know, is different anyways, So I think it
just has to do with if people are honest and
how they live their lives. Like yeah, like that's just
but for me absolutely, because, like I said, my best friend,
you know, we've gone through marriages, divorces, children, sickness, business
thing you know, great from and we joke about it.

(16:52):
You know, we're gonna be friends forever ever, even in
the afterlife. And he is a male.

Speaker 12 (16:57):
It's that man. Me and ron Ya. I've talked about
this in the past. I thought, I but you know,
I'll look at her relationship with her best friend.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nah, I would have been that would have been like
this for Sean, that whole ship.

Speaker 22 (17:10):
No, you're gonna understand the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
The whole thing for Sean, my best.

Speaker 22 (17:16):
Friend when we met.

Speaker 21 (17:17):
So to flip reverse it, now we're we're kind of now,
but on the other end of the spectrum of where
we were when we began our friendships. So when we met,
I was the one that was so I was married,
you know, to an Arabic Muslim and then my my
best friend he was single, doing the most and being
extra and but because he was also a Muslim, he

(17:38):
was like one of the only males that my ex
husban was comfortable with. So he's known me, like I said,
a long time. This is somebody that's been my friend
since I'm eighteen, and they're in there, they're in their
mid twenties, and we've brown, like I said, we've experienced
our lives over the course of those twenty five years.
So I've seen him marry, I've seen him go through
hard work, He's seen me go through my like we

(17:59):
just yeah, like nah, like we don't even need to
speak full sentences like I could just like we could
finish each other sentences.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
This is how that whole ship would be for Sean.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
She would have been she would have been cutting them
off all types of ship. That's as John I would
cut you. I don't care how long y'all be afraid.

Speaker 11 (18:22):
I'm the man now that.

Speaker 22 (18:25):
Hell, And that's what I'm trying to tell you. Our friendship.

Speaker 21 (18:28):
Friendship is so like gel that like that wouldn't even
be an issue, That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Because he understands my cultural and my value system and
how I operate and all of that as do I
with him. So even if like I had, like let's say,
I get remarried, right and I have a husband and

(18:49):
he's not comfortable or what like, that wouldn't even be
an issue. That's what I'm trying to tell you, Like,
we have such a genuine friend.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's not going now, John, would you let you you
let your Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You would you let your woman have this best friend
of all over all these years and it's.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Been for her.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Okay, I understand, I understand, But this is certain type
of boundaries and respect that you got to have.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let me let me Let me talk to my brother John,
real quick, John, how you feel about this, my bro?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Because I would never you dealing with me. It's me.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Now tell them good riddance. You can say hi, tell
him to send a pigeon in the sky. It's a
rap for me. But how you feel John about this, Bro,
She's I know you catch her. So basically she's saying
that she's you know she you know my brother for
Sean was talking to her.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
She was saying, you know, I got a best friend.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I talk to him.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
We cool, but I feel like this John, a shoulder
to cry on is.

Speaker 16 (19:48):
A da ride on.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'm in the wa So I'm like, cut all that
ship off. I don't want him to be there. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Dang like we good if we in our circle, in
our energy, that's a rap, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So how do you feel about it?

Speaker 23 (20:02):
So because my wife, she had friends, but it's boundaries,
like any it ain't no shoulder to cry on.

Speaker 16 (20:08):
If you ain't crying on my shoulder, we have ques down.

Speaker 23 (20:11):
We have more problems deeper than that, because when it
comes to like any feelings, any emotions and anything.

Speaker 16 (20:17):
I'm her husband.

Speaker 23 (20:17):
She should be able to come to me for anybody.
We created a covenant. We you know, we created something.
And if we can't communicate on that level where you
got to go talk to another man and you have
to be cool, that's fine, but you gotta go to
talk to another man about your feelings and your problems
and situations before we take anything from my household to
go out into the world to talk about it. That's
a problem because our question that relationship, Like damn, we're

(20:39):
not as that, we're not as one, we're.

Speaker 16 (20:40):
Not as to discuss our issues.

Speaker 23 (20:42):
Because even if I'm cool with man girls, nothing in
my household leave my household.

Speaker 16 (20:46):
And I got to go explain that to another girl.
And I'm cool.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
I only hang out with girls and I have my
wife so but but but I'm not.

Speaker 23 (20:53):
But but as far as like, hey, let me like
go that relationship and I need to proud show all
the girl's shoulderg gets like without going to my life. Nah,
I don't go that far. Like everything's stay in my
household with wifey, but friends cool. I'm not playing the
trips like it played like for example, like my homegirls,
everything is game for you. They're pretty girls getting around me.

(21:14):
I moved the loyal traction. That's how I could do business,
That's how I do. I own a restaurant, the club,
so I have these girls around me. But at the
same time, I'm not silly. I know it's beneficial because
being cool with me give you access to everything. So
and I always tell my homegirls, yore listen, represent me
the right way.

Speaker 16 (21:29):
You move like a whole around me.

Speaker 23 (21:30):
Niggas gonna all make and think I'm fucking on you
or thinking these things move with respect. But yeah, in exchange,
you're gonna be half access. You're gonna be around the
rich motherfuckers. You're gonna be around the athletes. If you
fuck with the athlete, that's cool. But conduct yourself the
right way because I can't have you around me. But
far as like personally problems or like get telling my
issues and things like that, you I said, no, no,

(21:52):
none of that should be my household.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Appreciate that. John, listen, how do you feel about that?
Round your guys?

Speaker 22 (21:59):
I everything he said.

Speaker 21 (22:00):
Again, That's why I started off by saying, it all
depends on you know, the people and how they live
and what.

Speaker 22 (22:05):
Are their values.

Speaker 21 (22:06):
Now I hear what you're saying, but again, I do
not come from North America, right, and I come from
like a little different culturally, and so for me, just
outside of that, with or without my best friend, who
I am as a person, I'm not the girl that
you're going to see in the club. I don't go
anywhere unless I'm paid to be there already. So when
I have a significant other in my listen you literally

(22:28):
talking to the person who came out. The woman's the
passenger princess. I'm not blie like, I don't see a
purpose of me to have a man in my life.
A need to ask another matter. First off, I can't
have a man. I have to ask, so I operate differently.
So that's what I'm trying to say. My friendship came
as a result as this was somebody that was more
of a company so that okay, if my ex couldn't go,
IU didn't want him to send employees, so like, okay,

(22:50):
I trust this one, they could go with you. So
that's what I'm trying to say. It's just about how
we have always operated. I've had relationships since then, and
one of the first things I do is I always
introduce everybody to to them and it's based on whoever
I'm with. Their level of comfort with him dictates like
the scope of their relationship and how he's around.

Speaker 22 (23:09):
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 21 (23:09):
We have a genuine, authentic friendship that if I had
to exit, you know, we felt was insecure or whatever
or just wasn't comfortable with it, then that's what it
would be. It's not like if my best friend's like
on my phone every day and we'd be talking about
each other's.

Speaker 22 (23:22):
A bit like, nah, it's a real friendship. No, not together.

Speaker 21 (23:27):
The only time we've traveled is when we went as
families to do things to support each other's kids. So like,
his son is really doing well in Lacrosse, So I've
gone to things when they've invited as a family.

Speaker 12 (23:38):
Look, check it out, man, here are the things, Runnie,
that's my heart. Man, Okay, I trust Rynie, but I
told her I still don't like the situation with all
you feel we're runya. I would allow the one friend
anything past that is crazy. But look listen, let's be honest. Man,

(23:58):
dem me mady Ron they so you know I can't
stand so but these women is way too attractive to
be having male friends, Okay, because these niggas want.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
To crack crack bad right for sure?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Like what.

Speaker 21 (24:15):
Yeah, but for Sean when you don't go outside like
me though, they can't crack Like that's the thing, My
guy know exactly where I'm at when I have a
guy he'd be like, oh, yeah, she's right here. I
can tell you where she had a one two three
foot You're literally talking to the girl that don't want
to move.

Speaker 12 (24:29):
It don't matter, Mama, it don't matter, right, Like, look
a good, a good, solid woman. Don't want men around
that want to crash exactly.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 (24:43):
I don't have those kinds of people around me. The
only time we are physically around each other is in she's.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Given us too much pushback for Sean if we wanted.

Speaker 12 (24:54):
I don't know, Broy, like I said, I trust her,
you know what I'm saying, But we're not just talking
about you were talking about the nature.

Speaker 22 (25:03):
I get it, and that's why it depends on the people, right,
So I get that's in.

Speaker 12 (25:07):
America, because in America, in America, like I said, I
don't trust a woman that want to be around a
man that's not her brother, uncle, father, or man or son,
like I don't. I don't really trust women that want
to be around men.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
Like that in her life though he was in her
life before y'all started digging type shit.

Speaker 12 (25:27):
I mean, that's the big thing I don't. I don't
really trust women who have men in their life prior
to a man around a lot like that.

Speaker 21 (25:36):
Like I said, I got Wait, what about family, Like, listen,
remember my I'm daddy's girls. My dad's still alive. Like
I'm not too old for my father, like my dad
will tell you, like when I'm in a relationship, but
my dad tells him paul me and tell me I'm.

Speaker 22 (25:48):
Gonna deal with her.

Speaker 12 (25:49):
But that's that's family though, Like look I got, I
got women. I consider sisters that that's not blood.

Speaker 22 (25:54):
Really right, And that's how a friendship is.

Speaker 12 (25:58):
I go months without talking to them, just like my
real family. I pay their bills, I take care of
their kids. I'm throwing events, but I don't spend a
I don't consider them friends. I consider them family because
we don't have to deal with each other regularly. Me
and King are friends. I talk to King weakly. That's

(26:18):
my brother, right. I talk to Stat almost every other day.
That's my friend. Like as men, we can be friends.
I can lean on them for things, they can lean
on me for things. It ain't a woman I'm trying
to lean on. I'm here to help women. That's not
my friend. I help you.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
That's that's what I mean.

Speaker 16 (26:37):
I am.

Speaker 12 (26:38):
I am a man, I am in service to women
and children?

Speaker 24 (26:42):
Can I can I jump in here real quick?

Speaker 17 (26:44):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Who something in next?

Speaker 17 (26:46):
Man?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Let's let's keep the conversation going ahead.

Speaker 25 (26:48):
I love the.

Speaker 24 (26:51):
Whole notion of having women and men as friends being
so taboo and so unorthodox is really puzzling to me
because unless you specifically are thinking on a sexual type
of time with every woman that you see or an encounter,
and if you personally are seeing it as if I

(27:13):
want to associate with this woman, it has to be
only on a sexual type level or a level where
I'm providing for her. I think that's more of an
issue with how you perceive women, whether they're platonic or.

Speaker 14 (27:26):
Sexual relationships.

Speaker 24 (27:28):
I really don't understand why I can't have a man
as a friend to hang out with and talk to,
just like if he were to have a vagina and
I'm doing the same thing with her. If the boundaries
of being respected and there's a respect factor between this
man and woman just like there would have been between
two men and two women, I don't see where the

(27:50):
issue lies unless you specifically feel that you can't trust
this person or you can't trust those people and then
at that point that has nothing to do with me
how I carry myself or how this person views me
in a respectful way.

Speaker 12 (28:05):
Yeah, so I love check me out you listening and
mind y'all, I'm being slightly performed with because we in
the we in the gender war room. So I'm turning
up from my brother's back, but you know, give me
some space. It has a lot to do with the
woman's character, because a woman is measured off her ability
to perceive danger and measure the spaces that she put

(28:29):
herself in a woman, a woman can't really protect her
man out, but one thing that she can do to
protect her man is protect herself about who she gives
her energy and attention to, specifically her mindset. Right, women
are extremely impressionable, and I don't care how intelligent she is.
That's the beautiful thing about the energy and towards field
of a woman. Of how God made y'all is that

(28:51):
you are made to accept information and adjust to it,
adapt to it, take the shape up. And when a woman,
a true woman, a wife specifically understands that when she's
listening to men mhm, especially how chemically respond to him,

(29:12):
she will was.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
In the matrix real quick for Sean. Yeah, I can
hear you, bro.

Speaker 12 (29:19):
My back, Yeah, So I love the situation is energetically
a woman is a woman wants to protect that which
can be impressioned upon by a man, be it his penis,
his physical frequency, his words, and his voice, which will
take shape in her mind her There's no difference energetically

(29:41):
between her yoni and her in her mind.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (29:46):
A woman that's protective of her energy don't want to
be around too many dicks, so to say, you understand.
So it ain't about a man's perception of of her
or what we think of women. We hold women at
such a high high val you and position that we
understand when she knows who she is and what her
power is, she don't have it about her and making

(30:12):
bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And my brother Shawn's in the matrix stand bro, Yeah,
is in me. I'm not tripping right, He's in the
matrix right, Okay.

Speaker 14 (30:28):
Go ahead and speak.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
So I'll make it sure because my internet ship and
I don't know what that is. But in short, I
love we understand men. I've literally in the last three
years where we've had women swear on everything that they
they Homies that they male friends didn't want them, and
we've had them call them live and they and every

(30:52):
time I'm talking about one hundred percent of the time,
the homies was ready to go every time. I'm talking
about sixty seventy plus people every single time. And shows
have done it on the internet. I know people that
then done it real time and they and they day
to day. So we understand is that women don't have
a real understanding of who they are in the world.

(31:12):
Y'all don't have a true understanding where you fit in.
Y'all don't understand where y'all really fit in and how
to operate in the business space like the work work environment.
And you don't even know where you fit in in friendship.
I mean, come on, I lost homegirls. Y'all be in
friend groups that have different friend groups y'all, y'all be

(31:33):
hanging with sisters that y'all can't stand or don't know
that can't stand you. So y'all determine what men is off.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
We for sewing in the building, Listen, I want to
pick the room up and share a room up. Thank
you for my sister sip Yard and for coming through, Prince,
thank you for pulling up. So madam right, picking the
room up, share a room up, and somebody bring up
my sister Amber. I've been trying to bring her up
for like fucking thirty minutes. Bring up my sister.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't know if I'm mike tripping or she needs
to come back in, but bring up my sister Amber asap.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Continue, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (32:08):
So let's okay, every man, any man you see me
out and about or around, and he's a man, I
probably slept with him.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Gonna keep it the honey for you me.

Speaker 14 (32:28):
Yeah, but I don't.

Speaker 13 (32:30):
Mind girls coming up to the men i'm around. I
live a different type of life.

Speaker 16 (32:36):
But the thing is.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
What, So I have.

Speaker 13 (32:44):
Cousins, So whenever I'm dealing with anything, I go to
my male cousins. So those men who are my family, no, no, no,
there's nothing going on, so I don't. Yeah, I'm with
the men saying they don't believe women and men could
be friends. Only your your cousins, your brothers, your uncles, whoever,

(33:07):
right that is blood related. Those are the ones I
turn to if I want companionship or advice. Yeah, it's
just or to hang out.

Speaker 17 (33:19):
And have fun.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Ya Wow, can men and women be friends with no agenda?

Speaker 20 (33:25):
Cat?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Thank you for coming through, Samorita, Mari, thank you for
coming back. Fred O RNYA dig them?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Let's continue the conversation Episode sevens out of Gender Warl's
two on Apple podcast.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Go listen to that.

Speaker 22 (33:38):
I heard what Zoe just said.

Speaker 21 (33:40):
But when you come from a family like mine, Zo like,
I'm my dad's the baby and the family and I'm
my dad's only child.

Speaker 22 (33:46):
I am literally the baby's baby. I'm never wrong. Okay
in their head, I'm never wrong. So in my dynamic,
like I said, my best friend, one of the reasons
why I've.

Speaker 21 (33:57):
Comes to even appreciate that friendship is because that's the
one person and be like, okay, come on now, you
being too much of a print.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 21 (34:03):
All of them agree with me, And he's like, they're
always gonna agree with you, and so, believe it or not,
my friend is often the one that's like, oh my guys.

Speaker 22 (34:10):
I being like, come on, you know you give him
another day?

Speaker 25 (34:13):
Give him.

Speaker 22 (34:13):
He's always the one on that I'm like.

Speaker 19 (34:15):
Who's friend are you?

Speaker 22 (34:16):
He's like yours?

Speaker 21 (34:17):
But I also know you and I know that you've
got like this whole party that's gonna always co sign
whatever you say you want. So I guess, as I said,
it comes down to the people and the dynamics and
what their life is like. So no one's gonna tell
me no, because my daddy's still alive, my mommy's still alive.
I could sit at home and everything come to me.

Speaker 13 (34:37):
So I'm going to respond to her. I do have
a male dude that I mess with and he still
gives me advice, right, so.

Speaker 14 (34:49):
But I'm still messingut never but then.

Speaker 22 (34:53):
But that's what I'm saying for me, for me, that's
what I'm saying for me in my life.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
Right.

Speaker 22 (35:00):
I don't sing with my friends, just like I don't
stay friends with estives. So it's it's just real. It's
like it's different for me. I don't casually date like
you know. My mom them is Portuguese, black, old school Catholic.
My father is the Indian man from India. So I said,
like it's a whole different dynamic. So like so ship
that happened for.

Speaker 26 (35:20):
That man to even become my mind, Like let me
let yeah, let me let Fredo come in after you too.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
So after you want to say that.

Speaker 13 (35:33):
He's non judgmental, I'm sure you enjoy that part. Right,
This dude that I do hook up with, I would know.

Speaker 22 (35:39):
He's very judgmentals. Me age the one person that holds
me and you are comfortable.

Speaker 21 (35:44):
That's why it's cool because he's like, Okay, the one
my conscience.

Speaker 16 (35:48):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
So the main thing I would say in regards to
Ranya's situation is you're saying he's finishing sentences and things
he already.

Speaker 21 (36:00):
Knows, like the crazy shit I'm gonna work out in
my head and he's gonna be like, I know, you
probably convince yourself.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
Like Rana, listening is a skill.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I understand.

Speaker 9 (36:08):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
The thing is I understand that he he actually, you know,
finished his sentence and stuff like that. He sounds like
he could have been a perfect man for you. However,
he's married. If he wasn't married, that's my question to you.

Speaker 16 (36:23):
Would he be a man?

Speaker 22 (36:24):
No, because when we met he wasn't married.

Speaker 21 (36:26):
I told you this, I was married, then I went
through my divorce, then we got him married, and now
he's on a quest to get me married off.

Speaker 22 (36:32):
No, we I've known this person before they were married.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 21 (36:37):
He's like, I don't have a big brother. He's like
the closest thing. Like if I could have had one,
it would be him. That's all I'm saying. Because I
never had I am the LS, so I've for me.
That's the equivalent of like if I had a big brother.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
What he don't know?

Speaker 22 (36:54):
You know what I'm saying, Like he just he wants
you know. He is like, he's like that's that's like
his thing. He wants that.

Speaker 21 (36:59):
He's I need you married whilst I can still shake
a leg about wedding, okay, and have a drink with
my new brother in law so.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
We can talk.

Speaker 24 (37:10):
He in Florida, So okay. I want to respond to
a few things that have been said. Shout out to
cribbing people, good good things, good things. But I really
cannot agree with the things that come out of your
mouth for Sean, and not in a disrespect. I just

(37:32):
really can't because in my reality, that is not how
that works. And I say that because now, if a
man has sexual intentions with a woman, then he's gonna
show that regardless of if he's her friend or if
he's a stranger. I can't control that. Now. If there
are a boundaries set, like I said before, and if

(37:52):
there's an understanding and we are just platonically friends, that
is fine. If he can't respect that boundary, if he's
not trying to respect that boundary, that we don't need
to associate. If I can't talk to you as a
human being without ulterior motives, then you don't need to
be associated with me, and vice versa. You're making it

(38:16):
seem like every single man out here is hungry for
some pussy, no matter if they're ugly or not, if
they're not attracted or not, And that is not how
men I would assume operate. I would assume most men
are more intellectual than that to understand that they can
have a regular conversation with someone without having to feel
like a wolf in she's clothing because she's a woman

(38:39):
who's attractive.

Speaker 12 (38:40):
Yeah, I love so, And it is just in the hope,
just to serve somebody. It's not that every man is
functioning in this way. It's the fact that we as
people have to understand the beautiful thing about the opposite
gender and the same way that the average man will
all right, let me frame it this way, I love.
A male friend cannot be romantically interested, or a man

(39:05):
cannot be romantically interested in a woman that he is
platonic with and still have the desire to sleep with her.
Let's remove the desire. He can still be willing to
sleep with her just for sleeping with her sake. Right,
It's who men are. So when I say a taurus

(39:26):
field early, I was talking about the electromagnetic pulse between
the male and female energy. You understand what I'm saying.
This is what it comes down to. Men and women
being around each other energetically creates a magnetic pulse even
if there is no chemical romantic interest there. Right. This
is why in other cultures and other religions they ensure

(39:49):
to have foundation where they keep men and women engagement
to a specific space, because it's some things that you
just can't control, right, And a smart one is not
going to make herself accessible to men who don't serve
a great purpose. And my biggest thing is that when
we do stuff, we have to see what the utility is. Right,

(40:11):
The same way I'm saying is not much, not no,
but not much utility from a male female relationship is
the same way I say there's zero utility from a
woman living by herself. Right, we have to be honest
about what we're looking at. And for men, my direct
representation for men is that men don't get much from
having a woman friend. Now, is there cases where a

(40:35):
woman can be of service to a man in a
friendly relationship. Absolutely, The question is how often does that happen?
Happening I would say less than two percent of the time,
which means nine times out of ten, a man with
a platonic female friend is in service to her with
her with his masculinity, and he's not getting much out

(40:55):
of that, which means he's the women in his life
that he would be romantic with is losing his resources
to him, be it energy, be it his mindset, his intellect,
his physical protection, his time, and his money. And women
fight for the right to have a male friend so
they can extract all those things I just said. And

(41:15):
it's basically like having a boyfriend without the six So
really it's like having a daddy or big brother, which
is cool, but it doesn't really work out for the
man because it's not like he's getting a mother or
a girlfriend out that situation. First of all, he don't
need a mother and he's not getting a girlfriend, So
what is the benefit? In consciousness, we call it things

(41:38):
a fair exchange of energy, and in this scenario, it's
extremely rare that the man is getting a fair exchange
of energy.

Speaker 21 (41:46):
Well, I can't speak for everybody, but like I said,
it depends on the dynamics of those people in the friendship.

Speaker 22 (41:53):
And I know like from my friendship.

Speaker 21 (41:54):
As I said, we've seen each other through a lot
of different things, and there are things that they will
come to me about for themselves, and a lot of
times it's because you know, like when he wants to
do certain we know each other's strengths and weaknesses, and
because we've been through the things we've been through, because
it's pretty much like they've kind of like watched me
navigate my adulthood, right because I got married very young.

Speaker 22 (42:14):
So similarly with them, it's like, yeah, I have my strength.

Speaker 21 (42:18):
So when he wants to do something you know, over
the top or extra or unpredictable or surprise his wife,
and like I'm the goal too, I'm the one. And
that's why it's like when they have things for the
sun and okay, yeah that's her lane. And then when
I know I need, Like I'll literally text him and
be like, Okay, I need my Harvard brain because he
went to Harvard. And it's like I know when I
need somebody that's gonna sit there and break everything down

(42:40):
because I'm a virgo break it down one to two,
two to three because I'm in my emotional feelings and
what I want, I want and who there tell me.

Speaker 22 (42:48):
No, He's the only person that's gonna do it and
not be afraid of like me going.

Speaker 21 (42:53):
Like yeah hard, pass bye, because I'm gonna listen because
I know he has zero thing other than he just
wants what was best for me as my friend. So
I just feel it depends on the dynamics of the
people and just what their value system is and where
they're at in their life and their respect for what each.

Speaker 22 (43:08):
Person wants for their life. Because I really respect the
life that he wants for himself.

Speaker 21 (43:14):
I respect the life the family, Like we both really
believe in marriage and all of that. So I feel like, again,
it comes down to the people involved, you know, if
it was one sided or one person had a set
of values and the other one didn't actually see all
the things you're saying.

Speaker 22 (43:28):
But like Nah, not not in my situation.

Speaker 9 (43:32):
Do you lend him money?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Can he come to you if he needs it?

Speaker 21 (43:35):
But neither of us have ever had to do that
for each other. We've more done other things. I mean,
we've done a lot of business together, Like you know,
I've plugged him for things.

Speaker 22 (43:44):
He's come to me and be like, yo, they're in nobody.

Speaker 21 (43:47):
I'm a trust because either ways, I'm You're the person
the only one that I could tell this shit to
without it, you know, I don't have to worry about
an NDA, So I'm gonna come to you. And then
there's things that when people come to me and I'm like, ah,
because of who I am, I can't touch this with
my hand. But there's only one person I'll trust because
I know I can, and I'll send it to him,
like yeah, I keep his portfolio on my phone, like

(44:07):
that's that's my buddy, that's my Yeah, that's my brothers.
And I've taken people to him and gotten them plugged
because they don't have to, you know, just on the
merit of because it's me. Like even my ex got
like crazy business just because of who, you know, because
of our friendship. Because I was like Okay, this is
my The first time they man they went out, He's like,
all right, so you know what, because this is Ron.

(44:28):
Your dude's like fuck that, I don't care who else
comes and puts their shit in, like yeah, you got it,
it's yours.

Speaker 22 (44:35):
And then when we broke up, it was like yeah bye.
And then they were like, wait, we wanted to know
why we no longer have sponsorship for Da.

Speaker 21 (44:43):
DA And then they were like, okay, now we understand.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
All right, in the world of equivalent exchange, that's a
fair exchange. I agree with that because if you could
put money in a man's pocket get business.

Speaker 21 (44:55):
Then it's, like I said, it's a genuine healthy thing, right,
We're not trying to be what we're not. He just
wants his friend, okay, because, as I told you, if
he met me as someone's wife, as someone's mom and
now he's.

Speaker 12 (45:06):
Married, as women for sure, because women most definitely get
your bag together. We ain't friends, don't I don't We
not friends?

Speaker 21 (45:15):
Correct, because you met them as business. But I'm saying
this was my friend first because I was younger and
they were younger, and as we grew as adults and
grew in our respective careers, and business. It just led
it to things being able to you know, because we're friends,
like you might as well to together.

Speaker 12 (45:33):
You get that pass on that one friend, it's all right,
but the other ones gotta go. You said, you got
like ten no, I said.

Speaker 21 (45:38):
Most of the people I know as friends are guys,
but they're not like people that I'm talking to on
the phone and going out with the reason most of
the people I know are guys is because, as I said,
I don't go anywhere unless I'm going with my significant others.
So most of the times, the males that I end
up meeting are people that's through him, that he's comfortable with.
So that's how I end up with the male friends.
Like even now, the only male friends I know is

(46:00):
since freaking twenty eighteen are all people that I met
through my ex. And it's it's like hilarious because like
he'll he was like, so I'm blocked, I'm this, and
then he's like and they're.

Speaker 22 (46:11):
Like, you've blocked that up, Like she's amazing, she's a
great person. Are you mad at us because she's still
friends with us? Are not blocking us?

Speaker 12 (46:19):
They gotta go to Ryan, they go with you, You
go with the man, you read go with the friends.
Two friends.

Speaker 22 (46:25):
I've told them they could go, but they didn't want
to go.

Speaker 12 (46:27):
Are you doing to I'm about to come over.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
You want checking on me?

Speaker 11 (46:30):
They'll be like you a girl.

Speaker 27 (46:32):
I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 17 (46:34):
About the test.

Speaker 12 (46:36):
What'd you say?

Speaker 17 (46:38):
Tell him about the test?

Speaker 22 (46:42):
Ahead?

Speaker 17 (46:44):
Okay, all of these I got two points. If all
of these guys are so great and the vibes are there,
why are y'all not with these men? I mean, these
sound like amazing men. So I mean, to me, if these.

Speaker 28 (46:58):
Guys are so great and all that is my good
guy friends, I don't want to hear any more arguments
about there's a shortage of mean we're all a good
men and then your friend zone.

Speaker 17 (47:06):
I mean, I've known that forever. But that's just one
of the yo, Delvin. It's it's totally cool. I said,
we can't have this discussion.

Speaker 28 (47:15):
It's one of the other can be like, where are
all the good guys? But all of my male friends
are so great in.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
The friend zone. That was saying in the friend zone, bron.

Speaker 17 (47:27):
Here's here's the other piece too. Okay, you know these
guys are my great friends? Is totally platonic. Okay, cool,
send him a picture, you.

Speaker 22 (47:40):
Know.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
But del.

Speaker 21 (47:44):
He's writing in some respects because there's two guys that
I met through my ex that as soon as we
broke up, they definitely.

Speaker 29 (47:53):
And they got and he was like, he was really.

Speaker 22 (47:56):
Fucked up about.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
So they spent the hold on running. So they spin his.

Speaker 21 (48:04):
Friend his friend what, Yeah, his friend since he was nineteen,
his friend that gave him his first drink, his friend
that you want to cast his first NFL check with. Yeah,
And I'm the one that blocked the dude after we
broke up and told him.

Speaker 22 (48:19):
And I was like, I'm good, Like that's crazy because.

Speaker 24 (48:21):
That was.

Speaker 28 (48:24):
She's not She's not wrong. I have seen this multiple
times in real life at all, So.

Speaker 22 (48:30):
I get what Delvin's saying. That's true.

Speaker 17 (48:32):
We're friends a couple. We're friends with both of them.

Speaker 21 (48:35):
Uh and Delvin, that's why I don't no female friend
because they're no friend of mine. Gonna take mom Mas
see how smart and not stupid broke man's daughter.

Speaker 14 (48:44):
The female around and what you mean?

Speaker 22 (48:49):
My guy?

Speaker 15 (48:49):
Go, I want to go out to the guys.

Speaker 22 (48:50):
Okay, I'm coming to where we were going, strip club.

Speaker 14 (48:53):
I'm there I'm good, I'll be there.

Speaker 22 (48:55):
You didn't need nobody else, and.

Speaker 17 (48:58):
I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 28 (49:00):
Like, I have a friend of mine that got divorced
and I talked to her after the divorce and she
was like, you would not believe who's in my inbox?
All this guy's friends were in her earbox before the
ink was dry Dell.

Speaker 22 (49:14):
Then we ended up on a four way call.

Speaker 21 (49:17):
You know, this ship was crazy because this old friend
group god blown up because they could not believe it
because this person was literally there when we met, because
we met here.

Speaker 22 (49:27):
They all came to Canada and they were like, you
were there from day one. You were there when they
go yo, bro, you went with him when he went
and picked that ring up for her. You were there
this and this motherfucker was like yo.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
I was like.

Speaker 22 (49:39):
The man came and everything that he knew my.

Speaker 21 (49:41):
Ex, all the things that he knew my ex was
gonna do that I would that I wanted that I
was four, and then all the things that he knew
that became the problem that made me go, yeah, no,
this is not gonna watch man.

Speaker 22 (49:53):
Dude came and he was like, listen, I'm in this house.
I mean this this I'm gonna do that blah blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And I was just like, wait now, I'm here for
you ship. It's a rat flag, Davin, I don't know
I'm here for you.

Speaker 22 (50:05):
That was like no, he walked off. He was like,
I wish I saw you first. If I've seen you first,
you would, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Would, right for sure.

Speaker 12 (50:14):
Hey, that's awful.

Speaker 21 (50:17):
That was his friend of like, like I said, he's like, what,
I'm going to be forty three, he's forty nine.

Speaker 22 (50:24):
His friend's like fifty two, Corey?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
What the hell?

Speaker 20 (50:28):
Bro?

Speaker 12 (50:29):
You can't have friends ran neither? Can you see?

Speaker 4 (50:32):
That's wow?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Listen listen. If you guys just trusting Ranya Rya real quick,
real quick? Okay, Rnya real quick. I just need a reset.
I just need to click reset.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
If you guys are just now joining, we're talking about
Can men and women be friends with no hitting agenda,
no funny.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Ship, no weird ship in the middle? Can they be friends?
Episode sevens out on all platforms. Please go fucking listen
to it. Monetizing this ship. Let's go crazy?

Speaker 16 (50:59):
Right?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Doctor Heimothy are you here? What the are you doing? Brother?
What's going on? What can they be friends with no
hitting agenda? What's up?

Speaker 30 (51:09):
Let's go, let's get into this. Listen, I could definitely
be friends. I want you fellas who knows that I
am friends with your girlfriend and listen, I am friends
with all of your ladies, your girlfriends, and I want

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you to know that the.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Block block.

Speaker 17 (51:43):
Take about the group.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Chair for Sean.

Speaker 11 (51:46):
That ship was so bad.

Speaker 21 (51:47):
The man said he was on the foreway call and
the guy said, thank god I have real friends, the
ones that never met you.

Speaker 12 (51:53):
It was bad.

Speaker 22 (51:54):
That ship fucked him up because it was like a
thirty something year friendship.

Speaker 25 (51:57):
Back to your questions, That's what I'm saying, Cat, come
in real quick. Say to your question.

Speaker 24 (52:07):
Personally, I don't need male friends. I know people like
acquaintances and like business and stuff like that, but I'm
not going to sit at a restaurant and key key
with a with a man like this is this is
not it. If I need that, I need a man
in my life that I can do these things with.

(52:29):
I think I think people people see and and again
I would say it depends on your comfortability and also
how you were raised. I don't need them.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
I have.

Speaker 24 (52:42):
I'm surrounded by enough men that will. They won't even
let me have male friends. They're gonna ask me who's
this man and why is he close to you? Unless
he puts the ring on your finger, we don't want
him around type of ship.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
So no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Cat then said it, who's coming in next?

Speaker 7 (53:04):
I'm disappointed? Stack.

Speaker 30 (53:05):
I just read for Sean's comment for Sean is trying
to get all of the ladies.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Why what is he doing?

Speaker 20 (53:16):
What does he what's happening?

Speaker 9 (53:18):
Cory?

Speaker 12 (53:19):
I just, I just, I just want all your relationships
to be straight up romantic. You don't need no friends.
And if these women think they're your friends, then I
don't want them because I don't. I don't trust that
the arrangement with nobody talking about something. I'm here for you,
what you need? You you you got too much support.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
I'm studior bro. I'm taking copious notes, man, I'm watching
your moves.

Speaker 30 (53:46):
Every time you don't show up on time, every time
you break your heart, every time you don't get us
something you know for a birthday?

Speaker 16 (53:53):
You taking notes every time I missed you gonna get
every single time?

Speaker 14 (53:59):
Right, That's all he has focus on? What part is
she missing that you're not giving.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh y, Corey, you know you know that, you know
you're gonna fall for the Buffalo Wings.

Speaker 12 (54:09):
And this unrealistic things. She mad stuff that nigga won't
even post. Surprised me today. Next thing, you know, the
niggas in an extra.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah on on some other ship. You being weird now
right versus are you doing? You doing too much now?

Speaker 21 (54:28):
But then I blame her because how are you in
a relationship with somebody and you're saying like he didn't
get me what I like? I said, I guess for you,
my relationships are hold on because my relationships are with
so much intent.

Speaker 22 (54:40):
No, listen, you're gonna know what I want. I keep
a registry. I'm gonna tell you three things that I
want you pick one out of that you ain't gonna
let No, it's about communication. That's why I said to you.
I know myself very well.

Speaker 30 (54:52):
Let me tell Let me take you, Ronnie, let me
tell you something what you're missing. I'm gonna tell you
what he didn't get you and you didn't even know
you wanted it. But I'm gonna make it so big
in your mind, like wait, he didn't he didn't tell you, Beyonce.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
It was in town.

Speaker 30 (55:06):
He didn't get your girls. Did he tell you about
the winery? He didn't tell you about these things.

Speaker 22 (55:10):
But I don't like any of those things. That's what
I'm trying to tell you. I'm different. The things I
like and I follow you are different not gonna work.
I'm telling you. People have tried that bullshit that don't
work with me. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (55:24):
I'm such a like, I'm freely fucking spoilt and stubborn
in my own way because, like I said, I I like,
right now I'm talking to you guys, I'm sitting in
the fourth floor because my whole fourth floor of my
house is my master and I just like everything comes
to me, Like if I want tea, it'll come to me.
I'm here watching my daughter's puppies. I'm babysitting my grand babies. Basically,

(55:45):
So for me, these things don't move me because I
got married. So there's there's there's not like those things
don't move me, No concert in moving me, no trip
and moving me. Like, these things don't move me because
I've been doing these things since.

Speaker 14 (55:57):
The skirt has already said yes.

Speaker 22 (56:00):
So those things are not moving me.

Speaker 21 (56:01):
So that's what I'm saying, if I have a significant
other in my life, ain't nothing nobody gonna come and
tell me that's gonna move me, because it's more on
the flip side, whereby I'm gonna be going like, uh, okay,
what do you mean? I gotta wait, like why say who?

Speaker 22 (56:14):
Why are you here?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Then?

Speaker 22 (56:15):
But I'm the one that's quick to be like hard
like the first one. You gotta go.

Speaker 14 (56:19):
That's what it sounds.

Speaker 21 (56:21):
Fox, because as I said, I'm not, I don't I
don't have a daddy issue. I don't have a mommy
like I get I thankfully God willing. You know, I
was born into two parents that were married.

Speaker 22 (56:31):
I had come. My daddy's still alive on the phone.
He talked to me four.

Speaker 11 (56:35):
Times a day.

Speaker 30 (56:37):
Run by the way, by the way, you don't be quiet.
I have you clipping my toenails because.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Clip your toenails as much.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
So I do have a questions that I thought the
ladies was coming in cat coming and I want to
get chat to you feel me, But Devin, you could
take it bro whatever let's do.

Speaker 17 (57:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (57:10):
I just want to you know, because these uh male
besties is so solid and it's so platonic and it's
so pure and so innocent.

Speaker 17 (57:19):
How hard does this go?

Speaker 31 (57:20):
Like, like, do you guys take your male best friend
totally platonic by the way, to like go like shop
for like Victoria's Secret or like try on swim suits
and uh, you know, like.

Speaker 7 (57:33):
How far is this?

Speaker 20 (57:34):
No?

Speaker 25 (57:34):
Like that stuff?

Speaker 22 (57:35):
I don't like. I don't even want to go to
the mall by myself. No, no, yeah, but I don't
even go do that ship for myself.

Speaker 32 (57:43):
Like what are everything?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
I'm like, is this no chat.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Chat? Please take the sister please? No, no, no cat chat?
Come back?

Speaker 24 (57:59):
I think you to all the women on the stage,
I personally don't have a male bestie, nor do I
want one, but those who do, the mic is yours?
All right, go ahead.

Speaker 26 (58:14):
My best friend's a male, is a guy. I won't say,
like it's required. That's the only thing I only push
back I got cat is it's not required.

Speaker 15 (58:27):
It just happened that way.

Speaker 26 (58:29):
We were only black folks in the same neighborhood, so oops,
it just happened that way.

Speaker 15 (58:35):
But but my best friend has never seen me in
my underwear.

Speaker 26 (58:41):
That's not happening. I'm not taking him shopping for what like,
I think we're people.

Speaker 15 (58:47):
I am cloonsy.

Speaker 26 (58:48):
I think where people mess up or may mess up
is when they treat their best friend of the opposite
sex differently than they would when they were in relationship.

Speaker 15 (58:58):
Like it should look the.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Same, you know with that part though, Yeah, break that
down a little bit, chat because people look, you know,
the switch up to I like, I like the fact
you said that.

Speaker 26 (59:08):
Expand on that please, Yeah, because people people are like,
oh my best friend, No, when I get in a relationship,
I shut it down and we ain't hanging out and
going on trips. Well, if you got to change what
you're doing, then why were you doing it? That means
that that best friend was a placeholder for you for
a relationship. That's not fair to that friend and that's
not fair to you, And that's not fair to your

(59:30):
partner either. That you have a friendship that has to
change because you have a man in your life or
you have a woman in your life. So I mean
that would be a little bit you know of adjustment,
but it shouldn't just change because you have a partner.
You should operate that way. If that man, if your friend,
you don't see him as a partner now or in
the future, then he should not be a surrogate man either.

Speaker 15 (59:52):
And some women do that.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
There we go, Chat, come on chat now. Chat wrapped
it up right for Sean.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I like the way she put bro because it's like,
if you got to change up and switch up your
route from what you were doing, and you are already
stepping over you really really really wasn't it. Yeah, you
are already getting cracked. He was alread getting cracked, right
for sure, he was already.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Got what's up?

Speaker 24 (01:00:13):
Questioning the no hidden agenda because sometimes there is no
hidden agenda and the person just ends up finding some
sort of feeling or some sort of something. I always
taught myself, if you can call that person right now
and tell them, you know what, we should try this.
We should try to be you know this relationship we

(01:00:35):
get along well we do. Would that person be like,
get the hell out of here. I'll be like, oh, well,
you know, I've been I've been waiting for you to
just you know, tell me that you wanted like I
just I always question that because I've been again, I've
my eyes were open really quickly by the people around

(01:00:56):
me and this whole Oh this guy is my friend.
And in the moment that the guy feels like there
is a way that he can speak to you or
that you give him certain access, it's a little different.
So I wonder sometimes that people say, Oh, I have
a male best friend. How much of a friend is
that person?

Speaker 33 (01:01:16):
Oh, I want to say the whole time I'm staring
at this guy knowing I can have him at any
moment if I would just be his friend, he's just
my friend, right, I'm like, I could just put it
on him, drop my robe, right, like, hug him a
little too long, and just watch.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
It spring right up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:01:41):
But that's just me toying with him.

Speaker 26 (01:01:43):
But yeah, well that's that's that's the reason why men
don't want us to have male friends.

Speaker 22 (01:01:57):
Up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Let spring right up.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
Waiting.

Speaker 12 (01:02:07):
I know that's right, girl, You watch me spring up.
You're gonna spring it down because we're not friends no more.

Speaker 26 (01:02:14):
Yeah, I don't know, my You know what I think
if your best friend was like you were attracted to them,
or like they're your type or something, or they're very attractive,
you know, maybe people may find that.

Speaker 15 (01:02:31):
A little harder.

Speaker 26 (01:02:32):
My best friend dates white and Hispanic women. So and
he's and he's five eight or five, Yeah about five
A fives? Nothing any got grids?

Speaker 11 (01:02:44):
I don't do it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:45):
Chet. I've accepted the fact a long time ago that
men that eight.

Speaker 23 (01:02:55):
I don't do don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Check.

Speaker 17 (01:03:05):
So check.

Speaker 12 (01:03:06):
What I've accepted a long time ago about men who
accept the friend zone is that they're not good at
rejection and they still trying to play the game. Right,
I'm good at rejection. Let me slide on you and
you say you're not interested. I'm not about to try
to fenagle my way in on some creepy stuff and
still be and get proximity by friendship. I'm like, thank

(01:03:29):
you for your time, have a great day. You know,
I appreciate you, and I'm out of there and we're
not doing nothing else. But if I'm not good at rejection,
I'm like, well, let's just be friends. You know what
I'm saying, give me an Instagram or you know. And
I'm still trying to because if you think about the
dudes in fringe doones that still trying to do the
things that they would do with women that they were dating,

(01:03:49):
trying to convince that girl to change her mind. The
average dude is always trying to prove himself to a woman,
and that's and a woman don't want none of that. Like,
why would you want him as a friend, Like the
benefits of being a bottom of man is having a
masculine frame. That brother ain't masculine enough to even standing
on business for herself. Why would you want him as
a buddy Because he'll probably get beat up behind you too.

(01:04:12):
I mean, you got to you got a moron. He
might be a level of defense for optics, but if
something really go down, he he might get beat up
for you, but he ain't gonna be able to stop none.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
What is go listen, hold on real quick before we
get into this ship, right because y'all gonna go crazy
ping the room out and share the room out so
we can allow more people to come in. I'm gonna
do a quick reset, and I want to hear from
everybody on the goddamn stage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
But let's ping it up, share it up so we
can have more people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Come through the gender wolfloor. Get your free bitcoin debit
card at the top, ping it up, and were.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Doing a quick reset for Sean. I appreciate you, cat,
So let's go in. Let's go.

Speaker 16 (01:04:53):
It's not enough he's selling niggas leave but it's not
enough you me.

Speaker 34 (01:05:02):
Nobody got a doored, I mean him, niggas Mad, nobody
got a doo it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I tell you, G bad washing nigga doors.

Speaker 22 (01:05:08):
We survived outside off from the music, nigga whit.

Speaker 32 (01:05:12):
They're like, what a dore you own?

Speaker 18 (01:05:14):
It's an alphant on nigga vias welcome on.

Speaker 27 (01:05:17):
This is not his own.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
This is a revelation.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
How they get a nigga gone.

Speaker 34 (01:05:21):
He's do a man, baby, y'all on this slam battery
payer bill and make you to tell that like I
can baby teach you something in this correction.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
That's the playing baby. Don't put your life here.

Speaker 12 (01:05:29):
Wear nigga's hands.

Speaker 34 (01:05:30):
Baby, it's not enough if you're selling niggas.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
But it's not enough myself. But it's not enough.

Speaker 25 (01:05:40):
I get on the ass.

Speaker 18 (01:05:40):
Yeah, somebody got a door it.

Speaker 34 (01:05:42):
I met him, niggas mad, somebody got a door it.

Speaker 12 (01:05:44):
I tell you, G bad washing nigga doors. We survived
outside off from the music.

Speaker 25 (01:05:49):
Nigga w a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
We're still in this motherfucker ping it up now. I
want to continue this conversation before the title switches my head.
More people want to go in, but let's you this
ship I want to have more people just dive in,
go into the conversation because it's interesting to see what
some people think about no hitting agendas and friends and yeah,
let's go and can men and women be friends with

(01:06:12):
no hitting agenda?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
The floor is open. Who's taking the mic? Next? Everybody?
Thank you for coming through its question.

Speaker 30 (01:06:18):
I got a question, stag, what percentage of male best
friends do you think are cracking?

Speaker 22 (01:06:25):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I would say all, I would say, all, what do
you think? Corey? I'll give it eighty five, eighty five
eighty five. I'll be realistic, I do eighty five eighty five.

Speaker 16 (01:06:38):
What you think?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
What you think? Bro said, I do seventy five? Why
do you give me an X floor? Let me do seventy?
When you do seventy, I.

Speaker 12 (01:06:48):
Do seventy ninety five? Is crazy?

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
Hold over time?

Speaker 30 (01:06:52):
Let me ask you hold on because I expect I
expect for the men.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
Well, I guess it's not gonna matter you.

Speaker 16 (01:06:58):
Have you heard what I heard?

Speaker 30 (01:07:01):
Yeah, listen, I expect for the men to say eighty
five ninety But when the women get to say in
ninety five percent, trouble.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
We are in trouble.

Speaker 18 (01:07:11):
Hey, what was the question here?

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
What percentage Yeah, Cat, yeah, cat? What percentage Nacho chat?

Speaker 30 (01:07:20):
What percentage Jasmine of male best friends do you think
of actually cracking that female best friend?

Speaker 15 (01:07:33):
Thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Thirty? That's too low for me, Cory thirty.

Speaker 15 (01:07:43):
Y'all forgetting about day best y'all forgetting zero.

Speaker 26 (01:07:47):
People are married, people are in relationships like that's assuming
that that person that that person is single.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
Okay, what what percentage? Check percentage?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Jasmine said seventy.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
Cory seventy in the chat said seventy chests head thirty. Okay, Cat, I.

Speaker 24 (01:08:04):
Think fifty sixty. I really, I don't think the male
best friend situation.

Speaker 35 (01:08:12):
Are y'all including male best friends that you used to
be with now you're.

Speaker 12 (01:08:17):
Male, absolutely cracking.

Speaker 35 (01:08:22):
Well, the real reason I'm asking is a lot of
women how to keep their exes around.

Speaker 25 (01:08:26):
They used to crack them.

Speaker 35 (01:08:27):
They're not cracking them in they're wrong, but they were
cracking them out well wrong, you know.

Speaker 25 (01:08:33):
But Sean tell them, tell them.

Speaker 12 (01:08:35):
Hey, hey, come on, man, listen, listen man. I was
just about the slide into this, Corey, because when Demy
said that. When when I heard the question, I'm like, well,
you we got to understand women gonna hear this differently, Right,
women going to think about the dudes that they don't
like that are best friends, and that number is probably

(01:08:56):
more like what even lower than what chests hid. But
we got to accept that. We got to consider that
number that attractive women are experiencing with attract or men
with women are experiencing with attractive men that they're attracted to.

Speaker 16 (01:09:09):
Like.

Speaker 12 (01:09:09):
The small group of dudes that got that got with
women like is probably more like with them and the
other women with the higher number. It's saying it's not
too many brother because those brothers are are are playing
the game and he's still a creep. He's still a
creep for sure, but he getting what he wants through
the creepiness.

Speaker 20 (01:09:30):
You know what.

Speaker 26 (01:09:31):
We know that's only like twenty ten or twenty percent
of men. But men that are that are what's the
word I'm looking for desirable?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
That's not the word.

Speaker 26 (01:09:42):
But so, how are twenty percent of the men desirable?
But seventy percent of male best friends are cracking?

Speaker 14 (01:09:48):
They feel?

Speaker 12 (01:09:49):
So think about what I said chat follow me twenty
I did you know? But I'm here with you. So
twenty percent, let's say it's twenty percent seven you need
a ninety five of that twenty percent is what I
was highlighting is most definitely probably cracking because here's the thing.

(01:10:10):
Attractive women probably don't really are dealing with dudes. Right,
there are women that are dealing with guys that are
attractive and they are attracted to and for whatever reason,
they claim in friend zone. Because we're forgetting the amount
of men that's putting women in the fuck zone and
the women are calling it friend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Oh shit, hold on for sean, hold on the ze.

Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
What So men don't have a friend Men don't create
friend zones. They create fuck zones. Like women have friend
zones for men that they don't want to be romantic
with but they can extract romantic gestures or energy from.
Men don't have friend zones. They have fuck zones for
women who they're willing to have sex with but they
don't want to give romance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Who's coming in, Prince? What's that?

Speaker 20 (01:10:56):
My bro?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 9 (01:10:57):
What's us that?

Speaker 22 (01:10:58):
So?

Speaker 34 (01:10:59):
I say this, right, there's this quote that says he
who says he can and he who can he says
he can't is usually right.

Speaker 20 (01:11:07):
I think if you, if you hold the disposition.

Speaker 34 (01:11:09):
That men and women can't be then you probably can't
be friends to a man or a woman, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 (01:11:14):
So like, the reality is.

Speaker 34 (01:11:18):
Like, the reality is like there's a lot of men
and women every single day that are friends, right. And
I also think it becomes extremely difficult for men to
have women as friends if they don't see them beyond
their sexual value. Like, if you're a man who sees
more value in a woman than just hitting the skins,

(01:11:38):
then you can see that there's benefit to me in
community with women outside of sleeping with them. Right, So
now you can begin to establish friendships with them, right,
But that's gonna take a mature man. I wouldn't say
the vast majority of men are like that, though, because
I do think a lot of men are driven by
their hormones more than you know, emotional intelligence. And I'll
even say the same thing about a lot of women.
I say, a lot of women is the same way.

(01:12:01):
And the last thing I say is I think for
most people there has to be it's not it's not
usually the moral compass that keeps you in the friendship zone.
Is either the lack of attraction physical attraction to the person,
or is the fact that there's some type of boundary
in place. You know, maybe you know they they want
kids and you don't, or they're too old and you're

(01:12:23):
too young, or there's usually something there that's keeping y'all
from crossing that boundary. But to say that we can't
be friends, yeah, no, I disagree with that, Adam Ely.
I do have women friends.

Speaker 30 (01:12:34):
Hey, so so friends, So I'm I'm more in alignment
with you, But I still want you to answer the question,
what percentage in your opinion of the male best friend
is his best friend?

Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
Is his best friend is?

Speaker 34 (01:12:48):
It's kind of deep, man, Can we just say friends?

Speaker 17 (01:12:50):
Corey?

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Okay, let's say the male friends.

Speaker 34 (01:12:53):
Okay, what percentage of the male friends is cracking? I
don't know if that you know what, Corey, I'm not
really gonna give it that high because I do think
something said Shan said earlier. Women benefit more from friendship,
non sexual friendships than men do. So a lot of
times women women will gravitate and say I have a
lot of guy friends. You hear that a lot more

(01:13:15):
than men saying I got a lot of female friends.

Speaker 20 (01:13:18):
Right.

Speaker 34 (01:13:18):
So it's like, so, so, I think a lot of
women do have friends that they don't sleep with even though.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
They do sleep with them.

Speaker 34 (01:13:24):
So if I was just giving you a percentage number, wise,
I say, let's say.

Speaker 26 (01:13:30):
Yeah and so and so that why, Cory, why do
they get to move the gold posts? Why do men
keep like both of them moved the gold posts? The
women just gave you a percentage.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
Well, you know how men are. That is kind of
how we are.

Speaker 15 (01:13:45):
That's the opposite.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
Though.

Speaker 26 (01:13:46):
I thought women were black and white, I mean emotional
and I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:13:53):
Friends, I thought.

Speaker 26 (01:13:55):
But I agree with what you said, Prince. I was
just noticing that the men have to get, you know,
something extra.

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 30 (01:14:04):
I think the point I was going after is that
this is why most men are anti dating a woman.
They says she has a male best friend. Because even
even if we take the you know, collect the numbers
and get to the media number of being fifty percent
or sixty percent, that means six out of ten times,

(01:14:25):
if I'm dating this woman and she got a male
best friend, that negro is cracking behind my back.

Speaker 7 (01:14:28):
No, ma'am, you can have that. He your woman, you
can't be mine, and she's yo, Cory.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
So he automatically he's cracking. You ain't gonna give him
the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Straight tacking.

Speaker 30 (01:14:40):
We had come up with a number that that that,
you know, the average being ten percent or the median
being twelve percent.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Then maybe, but even to collect when you're right, come on.

Speaker 30 (01:14:49):
Man, even to collect even when the ladies are saying
thirty percent.

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Oh no, we're not doing that. You got a male
best friend.

Speaker 16 (01:14:58):
That's abou.

Speaker 12 (01:15:03):
Numbers like that, You got to push that number up.

Speaker 36 (01:15:08):
I feel like it's also the kind of women that
you're dealing with. If you're gravitating to like horror bitches
like you, you can already like you already know if
a female is a whore or not based on like
how she interacts with you, and like if she's even ready,
like she's ready to pop pussy, like for first or
second day, like then like you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
But I don't know.

Speaker 29 (01:15:27):
I feel like a best friend, like I don't know me,
I've never done nothing with none of my male best friends.
But I mean I can understand because not everybody's the same.

Speaker 12 (01:15:35):
But yeah, how many what the what the number is?

Speaker 36 (01:15:39):
Don data like three?

Speaker 25 (01:15:50):
No, that's a red flag.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
That's a huge flag. That's not put the flag up
in the air.

Speaker 12 (01:15:56):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me talk.

Speaker 36 (01:15:58):
Let me talk.

Speaker 29 (01:15:58):
I feel like, if anything, they be putting me on game,
like no, I don't talk to that nigga. That nigga
just want to suck like but they like them niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Like you want to do the same thing. I'm sorry
to tell you.

Speaker 36 (01:16:09):
Never they never tried anything with me though.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
They want to do the same Delvin, they want to
do the same thing.

Speaker 18 (01:16:20):
Sister don daughter k said they dirty.

Speaker 20 (01:16:22):
Make it for Sere.

Speaker 12 (01:16:26):
Because I ain't trying to crack checked this out. I
ain't trying to crack you. I'm gonna tell you. Ain't
nobody a better cock blocker than your miss.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Put her wrong game, put her on the real game
for Sean. No, for Sean, you got to put her
on the real game. I think you need to listen
to this one.

Speaker 20 (01:16:44):
Bro.

Speaker 17 (01:16:47):
You have questions that if you got your male bestie,
if how mean women?

Speaker 31 (01:16:53):
If you told your male bestie right now, Hey listen,
I've been thinking about it. I want to have a
relationship with you. I thought I want to see what
this could go. How many y'all think he gonna say no, that.

Speaker 14 (01:17:03):
Nigga's gonna come me?

Speaker 26 (01:17:04):
Fuck now, my best friend will say hell no. First
of all, you got ass okay. I like white women,
So that means nine times out of ten they don't
got ass okay.

Speaker 22 (01:17:17):
So you know, uh, he wouldn't.

Speaker 26 (01:17:20):
Now, his frat brothers are like, y'all have never done anything.
Like they're shocked that for over twenty years, we've never
done anything, even kissed or anything. And his frat brothers
they all cappus. They're like, what y'all never no, But
because of our friendship, they've never tried.

Speaker 36 (01:17:40):
To holler, hold on you Tom right now?

Speaker 14 (01:17:42):
On oh, I wasn't.

Speaker 35 (01:17:47):
We did an experiment like this in our house on
clubhouse right. We had a girl, she had a male
best friend. We're having the same conversation, and we made
a bet. I was if you called him and want
and you presented the option, would he say yes? And
she was like no, no, no, He would be like,
you're crazy, that's crazy. This dude was mayor read right.

(01:18:11):
She texts him like I'm trying to see you or
whatever she said. I don't know what she said.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
He was on board, Lenla you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Get look, you get my point. The average man.

Speaker 35 (01:18:24):
Is going, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you guys.
I met my husband when I was nineteen, right, and
I we this was before I was most so don't
get don't get to So I used to be a bartender.

Speaker 11 (01:18:41):
Right, and I used to.

Speaker 35 (01:18:43):
He didn't really like it, and I never understood why.

Speaker 9 (01:18:46):
Right.

Speaker 35 (01:18:47):
So one day he says to me, He's like, you
don't understand how men think that I'm young. He's like,
every time a man looks at you, he puts in
one He puts you in one of two categories. I
would or I wouldn't, right, and don't keep around women
that they wouldn't. So like, that's it, and it's a
fleeting thought. It's not something they dwell on. It's just

(01:19:08):
automatically the way their mind works. Right, So, every time
a man looks at you, you either are or aren't,
so that women keep looking at it through their own
lens the way they.

Speaker 22 (01:19:21):
Think about the man.

Speaker 35 (01:19:23):
The problem is generally the other way.

Speaker 22 (01:19:25):
It's the way the man thinks about you.

Speaker 26 (01:19:28):
Yeah, so, adel And and fellas, can I reverse that question?
Do you have an attractive friend that, if given the opportunity,
you would hit Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (01:19:47):
I don't have no women friends.

Speaker 26 (01:19:52):
I'm talking to the men that have women friends. Our
friends with some men on the stage.

Speaker 12 (01:20:00):
Yeah, you got too much ass. You got too much ass, Chad,
were not friends. I love you, my sister, yo, what
oh my, I'm not.

Speaker 25 (01:20:23):
We're not.

Speaker 12 (01:20:25):

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
But I love you.

Speaker 12 (01:20:26):
I'm here to support you, but I'm not got you back.
But you know when people don't call me brother, you
know what I'm saying because you you you you missed
the step in front of it, like I don't, I
don't know. You know what I'm saying people, these brothers
is lying. I'm just trying to keep us honest. Men
are lying.

Speaker 17 (01:20:47):
I'm trying to keep it honest.

Speaker 26 (01:20:51):
So women aren't pushing up on you all, they're not saying.

Speaker 7 (01:20:55):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Gave us the reverse.

Speaker 12 (01:21:00):
Yes they are. That's why we're not friends. We just
keep just keeping it honest. Because so what.

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
About the men that have female friends.

Speaker 26 (01:21:11):
One of your female friends saying hey.

Speaker 17 (01:21:20):
To my wife and if she say it's okay, it's okay,
that's how we get down. But that's to sit this
one out.

Speaker 25 (01:21:27):
That's a fact.

Speaker 11 (01:21:27):
I do know that.

Speaker 25 (01:21:30):
I don't like when you're niggage.

Speaker 37 (01:21:34):
Wait, what if the wife doesn't want you like you
to be having a girl best friend or doesn't ship
even she doesn't want her around you, Like, what you're
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Women don't listen.

Speaker 23 (01:21:49):
I live in the Middle East.

Speaker 37 (01:21:50):
I don't have no male friends nothing.

Speaker 22 (01:21:52):
My father and my siblings will take them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
No, no, take the.

Speaker 38 (01:22:01):
Most women in a relationship are not going to go
for their man having a female best friend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
That's just most. I think that's impossible. That's not even real.

Speaker 7 (01:22:14):
Is that really?

Speaker 38 (01:22:15):
Like you, guys, a man have a female best friend
that he's attracted to.

Speaker 16 (01:22:23):
What's the problem? J?

Speaker 30 (01:22:25):
Hold on, J let meuse. I want to answer Chet's question.
And I got to be honest, chat. I don't feel
great about this, but I thought I was doing her favor.

Speaker 28 (01:22:33):
You know.

Speaker 30 (01:22:34):
I was on Clubhouse and listening to the lady say
that seventy percent of women don't get orgasms, and uh.
I took this information from Clubhouse and I was talking
to one of my female friends and she was like, yeah,
unfortunately I haven't had one in years. And I was like, well,
as a friend, I think I should be able to
help you with that because I don't think it's I

(01:22:54):
don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
And so I gave her something that a man could
give a check Jesus.

Speaker 17 (01:23:01):
We.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Can we please move on?

Speaker 7 (01:23:06):
So now that he got.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Move on moving Your friends have.

Speaker 26 (01:23:15):
Their boyfriends had a problem with I'm their boyfriends had
a problem with your relationships?

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
Fellas?

Speaker 11 (01:23:23):
Has a man has a has.

Speaker 26 (01:23:24):
Your friends man ever had a problem with your friendship
with this?

Speaker 38 (01:23:30):
Listen, no, because the only women that I have that
I'm friends with women that I'm not attracted to.

Speaker 39 (01:23:36):
Here, here's a problem, here's the problem with your niggas. Man,
your niggas like have reduced yourself to exactly what these
crackers said you was a bunch of fucking horny as
unhuman niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
You feel me.

Speaker 39 (01:23:50):
You can't sit up here and have a relationship with
a person or woman, right, It's like you can't look
like you don't got attractive cousins that you don't think about.
Fucking know what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:24:00):
Stop it.

Speaker 39 (01:24:01):
You could be with you could be in a friendship somebody, this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Nigga, what the is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Corey? Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on, hold
hold on, what what the fuck is going on? We
need that's not a part of the podcast. Cory. Cut
that part. Cut that part off the podcast. Your head you.

Speaker 12 (01:24:30):
Need for contrast.

Speaker 9 (01:24:31):
Let let the niggas keep it real with your bitch
ass fore second.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Hold on, m J gotta go den man, I don't know, man,
we gotta know who's he's done for Sean. That's the
bitch ass.

Speaker 14 (01:24:53):
That she di neck to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
That crack.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
That was crazy crackers and horny niggas. Huh So can
I do a quick reset? Can I do a quick
research please so we can get back on track. Y'all please,
let's do a quick reset. This motherfucker came in here
on some weird ship. Let's get back on track for Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Can we be back on track?

Speaker 27 (01:25:21):
Chat?

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Damn heap.

Speaker 7 (01:25:26):
Go you to my brist buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
Takes me all the sudden.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
She tell me, says, I can't lie.

Speaker 9 (01:25:39):
I thought about you in Customers. She fell in love
with dump my budget, she tell me.

Speaker 11 (01:25:46):
So when she coming, I'm trying to put it boy,
you tell me.

Speaker 12 (01:25:51):
Do you love me?

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
Do you love me?

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Let's go?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I want to still pick the room up and share
the room up because y'allo getting crazy in here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I don't know what the fuck MJ was on. He
needs to go get coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
He need to go to the stores. Go send him
to the store and maybe he'll be all right when
he come back. Because that ship was too much. I
don't know what the fuck he was on. But let's
continue the conversation. If you're not a part of gender wolves,
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(01:26:41):
No hidden tricks. I don't give a fuck. Will y'all
take it? But just the crackers and the horny niggas
and all the crazy shit that y'all was on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I don't I don't want to hear that ship. I
don't want to hear it. Yeah, he's bugging, he's.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Fucking that you you had a male best friend? Didn't work.
I'm gonna you testify.

Speaker 14 (01:27:05):
Ain't much to testify. The ship just didn't work.

Speaker 33 (01:27:08):
Like I wasn't attracted to him, but he definitely was
attracted to me, and he did exactly what you guys
said that they do.

Speaker 14 (01:27:15):
Just stay there, stay comfortable until they can make them move.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
So that so basically it was like a snake in
the grass. Royal, that's what you said. So he's I'm
near for you. I got your back talk to me
just to gain that information and make that motherfucker that
when we know that ship that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
That's what men was saying. I'm coming off the whip.
I'm not laying in the bushes like a snake.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
If we ain't, if I ain't rocking with you off
the with I'm not laying in the bushes like a
snake and waiting for my opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Fuck this ship because I'm gonna feel like a side jerk.

Speaker 14 (01:27:53):
A bit earlier too, but they really do wait to
sit there and hear all the stuff that your man
ain't doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Oh yeah, check, he ain't doing this, the chick, he
ain't doing it, are you.

Speaker 12 (01:28:04):
That's Corey right, That's right. That's why y'all can't beat
none of my ladies.

Speaker 7 (01:28:13):
You know what you know where that came from.

Speaker 12 (01:28:17):
I A'm messing with nobody. I'll see you following because
I know you're watching a social media and you watching Instagram,
you will watch it and stop posting the same type
of lovey love pictures. You know, you know you could
tell she posted all those quotes talking about you know,
if you can't handle me at my worst, you can't
have me at my best.

Speaker 17 (01:28:33):
I deserve this.

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
He watching the healing journey about to slide right e?

Speaker 17 (01:28:37):
Not the healing journey.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Wow, he's watching the healing journey for shun. What man,
that's just too much energy on one who's trying to
get at yo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
I think Rob trying to get in there too, Robin
trying to get in whoever, let's let's let's let's switch
the mic a Rob, what's up, brother?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I'll see you trying to get in for a minute.
What's up?

Speaker 20 (01:28:56):
Brother?

Speaker 28 (01:28:57):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
So I put it in the chat now saying again,
and I don't care who don't like it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Most?

Speaker 40 (01:29:03):
Most women keep dudes around that they don't find attractive.
They keep them around for what they need from them.
She don't like them for sex. But he's good for
fixing something around the house's he's good for a connection.
He's good if she needs, you know, a little change.
But the guy who's who's having sex for her don't

(01:29:25):
have to see he don't have to be paying for
all this stuff. He don't have to pay through the
resources that he brings. He just brings himself. But a
lot of times these guys who are.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
The don't call friends are the ones that have to
in order for them to be around her.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Say they going up.

Speaker 18 (01:29:41):
He's got to be the one that pays for all
all her and her friends.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Oh so he gotta be the fucking trick in the scent,
that's what you're saying. These friends that that that I'm
here y'all talking about.

Speaker 40 (01:29:51):
Yeah, these are the These are the dudes that's gotta
pay that way to be to have proximity.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
To these women who ain't even interested in them.

Speaker 40 (01:29:59):
But they call themselves waiting in the wings for something
that has to fall out of the sky in case
they happen to be around.

Speaker 18 (01:30:05):
So if they show up to fix her refrigerator or or.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Door, they're hoping that maybe, just maybe they can get in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
That's the reality, nah, for real, rob Na. And then
and then back to Royal Royal, You you proved my point, Ranya.
Did you hear what she was saying earlier about the
male best friend that was waiting in the bushes and
then popped out. That's why me and for Sean and
DEVI was like, Nah, we ain't playing that shit. I
don't give a fuck what you think about me. You
could call me in secure, you could call me whatever

(01:30:34):
the fuck you want to call me. But that's why
Royal just proved the fucking fact. Not everybody's the same,
Not everybody's the same.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
And I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
But this is why we said it was a no
go from the start, because Royal already there's people out
there that's in Royal's position is you may not be
that person, but there's another Royal out there where their
friends waiting in another fucking bushes, waiting the motherfucking shoot
with it with that gun. It don't matter, bro, you
know what I'm saying that. That's why I said it's
never going to be a go for me. And I

(01:31:02):
don't care what you say.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Cut them off.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
I don't give if you knew on Fence he was
two years old, he's done. When I come in, I
don't get the fuck.

Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
But it's not only the men.

Speaker 37 (01:31:11):
It's not only the men. Even the women, especially if
you're treating your women right and she stresses you out,
you go to her and you be like, oh, my
woman is tripping and you try to talk about it.
Now she's trying to take that role like she will
try to.

Speaker 22 (01:31:24):
Fill that space that you're missing.

Speaker 37 (01:31:26):
So it's not only for the men, it's both. I
don't have no male best friend, God knows, my dad
and my siblings, they're gonna go crazy. And now I'm married, Helena.

Speaker 22 (01:31:34):
I have my family and my sisters.

Speaker 37 (01:31:36):
But say, but let me tell you another thing. Women
are slick. Women will do it better than the men.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Oh shit, oh shit, she dropped that ship.

Speaker 9 (01:31:46):
Hold on your story, your part, you have no male friends.

Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
I don't think the fact that you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
I don't do that.

Speaker 37 (01:31:59):
I'm gonna tell them. So basically, yes, America, I'm not
from America. I don't live for a second. No, yes,
I'm from Africa. But I was born and raised the
Middle East, so we don't do that. I went to
a separate school, only girls of school. Even my college,
we don't do that.

Speaker 11 (01:32:17):
I have a family.

Speaker 22 (01:32:17):
I have a brothers and father that actually will protect me.

Speaker 37 (01:32:20):
I don't need a male best friend, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Okay, yeah, none of that. None of that, yo, Valencia.
Don moved that around. Moved that around, Bro, moved that around.
Moved that around.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Corey. Take it to her.

Speaker 30 (01:32:30):
Bro listen to Stack, Man, and this is where I'm
a Graham. I'm a Graham with my sister. I'm a
listen Bro. I was talking to this chicken and you know, Stack,
we were trying to get to know each other. Stack,
And I don't know why, you know, Sak, Maybe I'll
just make people feel comfortable sharing life because I'm such
a sharer.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Stack. We were sitting out having.

Speaker 30 (01:32:48):
A conversation and she was talking about her ex back
and she said, to the ex, listen to what I'm saying.
Stat She said, her ex cheated on her, and when
she found out her ex cheated on her, she went
and got a hotel room and stayed in the hotel
room for days and cried.

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
And guess what happens? Stack.

Speaker 30 (01:33:05):
Her male best friend called her and came by the
hotel room, and what do you think happened?

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Stackh He cracked.

Speaker 16 (01:33:16):
Hold on but gets that crazy rico.

Speaker 30 (01:33:19):
So I'm sitting down and I'm just taking very copious
mental notes, and so you know, the question's gonna ask Delvin,
excuse me, miss is this Ni?

Speaker 16 (01:33:29):
She was like, yep, he is.

Speaker 17 (01:33:31):
I was like a I'm out.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
It ain't never happened.

Speaker 17 (01:33:37):
Totally platonic though.

Speaker 12 (01:33:38):
And this is the thing though, Corey, like you know,
I love I love my sisters, but we know that
they liars. And it's like you gotta you gotta search
your spotty sisters to know if they like, if it's
what's true or not. And the best math you can
do is just walk away. And you might be wrong.
That's unfortunately, might be wrong. He might not have ever cracked.
But when women start fighting for they for these male
guys to be in a life, the ones that's been

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around for a long time. First of all, Corey, we
have been some of those men, right, We have been
around for a long time sometimes and unfortunately we know
it come with that. And that's the captain.

Speaker 16 (01:34:13):
I think.

Speaker 12 (01:34:13):
Chat asked a question earlier about like the has our
lady friends men had an issue with us. I don't
have lady friends, but you can call them that if
you want to. But I consider them sisters because I
don't deal with them often, right, but they have my
full support when they need it.

Speaker 41 (01:34:28):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:34:29):
They men have never had an issue with me, Chat
because when they get a man, I am super ghost
because the only reason I'm there is to fulfill the
role of like a father or brother or uncle or
something like that. In what your man not doing? Sometimes
when you get a man, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Need to be there.

Speaker 12 (01:34:46):
I wasn't even really there in the first place, right,
Uncle Blue is not a not available until it's like
birthday time. I pop in, I shake his hand and
give everybody a hug get a present. Then I'm out
right because you got a man. Now what do you
need with me?

Speaker 30 (01:35:00):
Your man is there, You don't have no use for me, hey, Chet,
But to answer your question, the opposite of for Sean,
the answer is yes.

Speaker 25 (01:35:09):
And you know, y'all know.

Speaker 30 (01:35:10):
For me me, y'all know that my best friend of
thirty two years is a woman. No, I'm not attracted
to her. No, she's never tried me. I've never tried her.
But because of the mentality of most men, whenever I
show up, I got to be honest, Chet, Probably every
nigga she's been with has just assumed that something was
going on between me and her.

Speaker 12 (01:35:29):
Often made a lot of money together.

Speaker 30 (01:35:31):
Yeah no, no, you remember the story, like she in
trucking with me, she got she didn't open up text
business with me like that's my dogs.

Speaker 12 (01:35:38):
A lot of business going on, right, But when you don't.

Speaker 30 (01:35:43):
Know the history and you just come in the onset
and you see that for holidays she bring her kids
to my house. I know her mom, like we've been.
We've been best friends since nineteen ninety four. This has
been my best friend. And so yes, chat some men,
you know and Chet. I've even made a concernative effort
at times to let them know that, hey, we we

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just homies. The one person that did not have a
problem with was a husband, and so you know, I
was in a wedding. You know, me and a husband
are real good friends. But they divorced. Now, so in
this dating journey that she has now she's always having
to over explain. And so now now CHET, when I
know she's dating, I do what for Sean? Does I
just back all the way back? She dating somebody? Now,
I don't think I can talk to him about four

(01:36:27):
months because I don't want the assumption that most men
have about this topic to hinder her relationship.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
Can I turn something out there?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Okay, what we're doing?

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Because I made my point about no best friends and
I don't want the best friendship. Did you get where
we was coming from. You understand, everybody's a special case.
But that's why I said no, because of royal understand
royals prime example, Lela, you want to come in, what's
up before we spend?

Speaker 35 (01:36:53):
Like I want to ask, I want to present other women.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Just think about it.

Speaker 35 (01:36:57):
Right, when you have a group of men around you
that's support you, like the what Fashan was saying, it's
also going to change the type of man you choose
because you have spaces filled that are you have spaces
filled that are roles that your man would take on,
but they're already filled. So the way you look for
a man changes when you have men in your life

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that are literally already taking the place of a man.

Speaker 15 (01:37:24):
Yeah, I can, I can definitely agree with that.

Speaker 26 (01:37:26):
And that's also why I said, how you act without
a man should be little to no change from how
you act when you have a man, because it's that surrogacy,
it's that standard, right, that's like what you're saying.

Speaker 35 (01:37:44):
Yeah, like if you have a guy for this, then
a guy for that, and even if y'all are really platonic, right,
there's no it changes what you look for in the
man that you want to be with. So you're going
to choose a man that likely doesn't have some of
those qualities because you don't need him.

Speaker 15 (01:38:00):
You already have someone doing that. There's a there's a
need already being met.

Speaker 35 (01:38:05):
That's yeah, it's and it changes the way you vet
for what you need because you don't need some of
that stuff, but he is supposed to provide that stuff.

Speaker 25 (01:38:14):
So you should be looking for.

Speaker 35 (01:38:15):
Those qualities in your in your significant other, but you're
not because you already have those roles filled.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
That's good.

Speaker 41 (01:38:22):
Yeah, And I think one of those big role is
the emotional labor that your male best friends doing. That
it's like your man doesn't have to do because you're
outsourced it to your male best friend.

Speaker 17 (01:38:35):
So it's one of those roles. I think that's that
wouldn't probably.

Speaker 28 (01:38:37):
Get get a dressed because maybe the guy you've chosen,
maybe he's careful at doing emotional labor, but you don't
know that because that's outsourced to another man.

Speaker 17 (01:38:48):
So that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
A thank you has been the same people over and
over putting me to sleep. No offense to y'all, but.

Speaker 32 (01:39:06):
The new war today, like you're coming from the weeks
suff I know you and your longest story I got another.

Speaker 7 (01:39:14):
Don't want to.

Speaker 9 (01:39:17):
Please no more, no more your longer stories.

Speaker 16 (01:39:20):
Please like women anytime y'all have this conversation.

Speaker 32 (01:39:26):
I look at y'all like y'all crazy, like y'all don't
have ugly female friends because y'allucking them, Like y'all niggas
is lying. All of you are like because we know
women ain't good people. As men, we're usually friends with
niggas that are solid. Women, especially American women, are not solid.

Speaker 16 (01:39:46):
They're just not like.

Speaker 32 (01:39:47):
They don't even have friends that last longer for five years.
Go look at females right now. A lot of their
friend group change every Olympics every time. That's the Olympics.
They got every four years, they got new free right
the Brazil Olympics. Then it with the friends do friends.

Speaker 16 (01:40:05):
They're not good.

Speaker 32 (01:40:06):
They're not good people. They're opportunists and men know this.
So like those niggas who are hanging around, they know
it's a long shot. They don't care. They're not stupid.
Women ain't getting over on them. They not playing them.

Speaker 17 (01:40:20):
Them.

Speaker 32 (01:40:20):
Niggas are playing the long game, hoping like that's the
money they just throwing away and if they lose it
they lose. It's like when you gamble, you don't gamble money.
You can't afford to lose. Them niggas already counted as
a loss. They just hope one day it comes. If
it don't come, it don't come. Women ain't getting over y'all.
Ain't out smarten them. Them niggas, ain't they know exactly
what they do it. And them niggas have friends, female friends,
they say them women always look just like the type

(01:40:42):
of chicks they't be fucking They never have a chick
with four se hair that don't look good when she
take her clothes off, that's overweight, like none of them
like You gotta understand one. Ain't that many five women
like that in the world, right? And now your hit
rate just happen to be one hundred percent on fine friends,

(01:41:03):
stop it. You went after her specifically because men know
there's a level of intimacy to friendship that ain't even
worth given to a woman that don't do nothing for you.

Speaker 16 (01:41:13):
What's the point of having a female friend that does
nothing for you?

Speaker 32 (01:41:16):
And most of them do nothing for you unless they're
doing domestic shit or physical shit. How many of y'all
going to women for advice on life? Raise your hand, fellas,
how many of y'all going to women for like? You
know what, I'm struggling with life. Give me some advice, lady.
None of y'all, I hope not. That was kind of rhetorical.
I didn't really want you to interrupt. So unless you

(01:41:37):
are like that, unless you are doing that, are you
who is a fellow that's going to women for life advice?
As a man? Who said that? Because I don't want
to interrupt you. If you if you got to testify,
we pass.

Speaker 12 (01:41:46):
The court right here, please let me testify.

Speaker 16 (01:41:50):
Yeah, is there any man?

Speaker 32 (01:41:52):
Is there one among you that are going to women
for life advice on how to be a man?

Speaker 18 (01:41:57):
I just said you on how to be a man? Know, okay,
just stop talking.

Speaker 16 (01:42:02):
You can stop talking right there. You stop talking right there.

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
That's what I ask.

Speaker 16 (01:42:05):
Appreciate you, Mike. I appreciate you, my guy, And you
have a great Friday, you know.

Speaker 32 (01:42:11):
But again, what benefit do women bring that ain't domestic
or physical? And watch some nigga come up and try
to make up something and it's gonna sound ridiculous when
they say it. Just be honest, y'all, don't y'all hang
around I r L because they're attractive. I see how
y'all act when they When y'all get in the rooms,

(01:42:32):
y'all get your hard bottom shoes on, y'all get your
buttons up, you put your little colan on right. You know,
you come in there, you try to get articulate. You
ain't articulate nowhere else. I'll be hearing your points for
five years. None of them points are good. They suck.
They've been sucking. And then you try to go google
some ship and they come at I r L. And
then I got to hear your new Google points and they.

Speaker 16 (01:42:50):
Suck to Yeah, yeah, just point they want to be like,
that's it.

Speaker 32 (01:43:00):
I just want to hear the niggas lie to try
to make for a reason that women are really their
friends and it's really just that physically.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Yet, let's get it.

Speaker 12 (01:43:09):
I do have.

Speaker 18 (01:43:10):
I've got probably three or four female best friends that
I've never smashed. Now I'm not gonna say when I'm
moving to high school. I did want to at one
at one time. But there ones ones of corporate lawyer.
One is a one is a UH Healthcare UH Director

(01:43:32):
of Operations for United Methodists, and we we talk all
the time, and one gave me excellent advice on buying
my ring for my wife. Another one gave me excellent
advice we I didn't get a premium prenup, but like
basically on how to set up financially and separate our

(01:43:54):
we we don't have the same joint bank accounts and
you know how to protect myself, on on on that
in So now I've had that's some excellent female friends
and and not not all about not all about sex.

Speaker 16 (01:44:06):
And you could have went to a jeweler ass on
the ring.

Speaker 12 (01:44:09):
Yeah, no, no, no, no disrespect. You sound like you're
a good friend to.

Speaker 26 (01:44:15):
Okay, it's getting financial advice about how we're handling our
financially crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:44:25):
In our home.

Speaker 26 (01:44:27):
I'd be damned if your best friend, your female best friend,
telling you what we should do with our money.

Speaker 18 (01:44:34):
Well, she's a corporate she's a corporate Lauren Houston Houston
one of the best. So yeah, I took her advice.

Speaker 26 (01:44:40):
He's a corporate lawyer. There are financial advisor slap you know,
how would.

Speaker 16 (01:44:46):
You feel if another chick picked out your ring.

Speaker 26 (01:44:52):
Chack his best if it was that's like two checks.

Speaker 16 (01:44:57):
That's why that done, Like won't know what you're doing.
You don't hear, Yeah, yes, you don't hear nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
He's done.

Speaker 15 (01:45:04):
He just started talking.

Speaker 11 (01:45:05):
What's going on with that, y'all saying? I want to
talk right now? Uh now, doctor b hell no.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Now.

Speaker 26 (01:45:18):
If it was my best friend, my female best friend, yeah,
I could see that because she knows what I like.
But consulting with his best friend, no, hell no, sit down.

Speaker 17 (01:45:30):
That's the crazy work. I would.

Speaker 12 (01:45:31):
I would most definitely go to your mom, your sister, Yeah, yo, yo,
best Hey, look God for being you. You had that
around your situation on. I might go to your homie
friend right, maybe in the right circumstances, But like going
to my homegirl to pick out my wife ring. Oh man,
I'm looking not to get married, don't go.

Speaker 18 (01:45:56):
Well, it was a surprise. I didn't want to tell
any of her, any of her family.

Speaker 12 (01:46:01):
You didn't trust her family to keep a secret about
her being proposed to you? Just the wrong family, brother.

Speaker 18 (01:46:10):
Absolutely not. But let me just of all you guys
just spoke, how many of you are, how many of
you are married?

Speaker 15 (01:46:16):
You can't measure me off that I can't marry a
white man.

Speaker 12 (01:46:21):
You can't measure me off that, but I've been I'm
just asking, like my anniversaries, I was very for almost
a decade.

Speaker 18 (01:46:30):
Okay, my man, all good, I'm my anniversaries, my eighth
anniversaries this weekend on July.

Speaker 12 (01:46:37):
Gratulations, congratulations. This isn't a question. This is a question
if you can be married or not. What I'm what,
I'm challenging behavior. No, it's not good, brother. So the
situation is you saying that you you you went to
your lady friend because you wanted to keep the secret

(01:46:57):
from your your your fiance not wife, congratulatsation, because you
didn't want to use her family members who know her intimately,
because you wanted to keep a secret, meaning that you're
alluding to the idea that if you ask them, they
may have told her or that it came out, which
I said, if you can't trust her family, then we're

(01:47:18):
marrying into a family that's not structured to be a family.

Speaker 20 (01:47:21):
Really, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 18 (01:47:23):
But okay, it's not.

Speaker 12 (01:47:26):
Explain to me why it's ridiculous, because.

Speaker 18 (01:47:32):
I mean, they're a lot of families that can't keep secrets.

Speaker 12 (01:47:35):
Yes, but again, you are correct, brother, for what I'm saying.
If a family that can't keep secrets probably ain't a
good family. You said, you trust this woman that's your
friend more than a family that you're marrying into.

Speaker 18 (01:47:49):
Every situation is different, bro, But no it is.

Speaker 12 (01:47:53):
But I'm gonna ask you, is that good advice for anybody?
Would you tell your son to marry into a family
that he feels like he can't trust with small but
important information like surprising his potential wife.

Speaker 18 (01:48:05):
You have to understand the dynamics of their family as
well as I do, which is every every family is different.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
But no, I would not.

Speaker 18 (01:48:15):
And that in that situation. I know her mom. I
just know how she talks. Uh, you know she she
would give it. She would give it away, just just
on her. And a lot of women know that, like
you know, you know when your mom is trying to
hide something from me, you know, hey, did you get
your nails done? You know, asking these ship like what

(01:48:37):
do you need to get nails done? What kind of
dress you're gonna be wearing tonight? You know, they give
it away. So I actually wanted to genuinely be to
be a surprise. So no, I didn't tell her parents.

Speaker 32 (01:48:49):
Imagine and she see the woman that you allow pick
her ring. She's like, hey, girl's a pretty ring. You
gotta She's like, yeah, my man did a good job.
She was like, nah, I picked that out for you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:05):
Yeah she did. She picked it up right right.

Speaker 32 (01:49:08):
I don't so like that's what I was saying. That's ridiculous.
The fact that she was okay with that. I think
both of y'all are crazy, So that maybe why y'all
good together.

Speaker 15 (01:49:17):
There sounds like they're a matchmate in heaven.

Speaker 16 (01:49:21):
I left ridiculous.

Speaker 32 (01:49:23):
I really don't believe you deep there. I don't think
you told her. I think you just said at the
same face because Sean packed you up. It's okay to
trick you a good guy.

Speaker 16 (01:49:31):
Happy congratulations to.

Speaker 14 (01:49:33):
Answer the title, I will see you happy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Go ahead, Amber, sister, thank you for coming through over
the year.

Speaker 14 (01:49:39):
Say yes to the title.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Hmmm, I'm not gonna break it down a little bit, Amber.

Speaker 12 (01:49:49):
Okay, I heard crazy story.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
I have never that my family know.

Speaker 26 (01:49:55):
We've been friends over twenty five years, never slept with them,
never kissed them anything.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
I heard this crazy ass royal story earlier for Sean.
You know I'm holding it to this shit. I make Delvin.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
You know, I'm much dragging off.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Corey, you hear me this story of her male best
friend being in the fucking bushes like a snake waiting
for her the opportunity to pop out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
This is why you gotta be on go. This is
why you gotta be ready. So you ain't gotta get ready.
What the fuck are we doing? You're just letting shit
just freely have This is why. This is why.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
So just having that in the corner, Amber, that's what
I was. I was really stressing that, like, that's why
I wouldn't want, you know, my woman to have a
best friend because.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
You know this woman like Royal out here shoots.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
You'll tell you he was waiting in the corner like
a fucking snake and the fucking grass, waiting for his
opportunity to snatch.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
So that's where you know I was coming from. Amber.
You got anything to say about.

Speaker 14 (01:50:51):
That, sister, No, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
I would say, yeah, I don't want it to be
my case, and I don't want it to be you
guys' case either, because that ship is shitty. You know
what I'm saying, don't let it be your case. I
know it's case by case, but I don't want it
to be my case.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
And I don't want to be nobody else's case. So
let's continue.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Can men and women be best friends without hitting agendas
and no hidden tricks? The floor is open. Let's continue this.
Pick the room up, share the room up? Is anybody
else that wants to snatch the mic that hasn't came on?
Chat over to you stuff?

Speaker 20 (01:51:29):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:51:29):
No, I just have a question.

Speaker 15 (01:51:30):
But did did Dundada get a chance to go?

Speaker 25 (01:51:35):
Okay? Girl?

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
Go ahead?

Speaker 15 (01:51:37):
Okay, okay, sorry about that my question.

Speaker 12 (01:51:42):
I'm sorry I didn't like.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
I like that.

Speaker 12 (01:51:50):
She literally asked you if you had the opportunity to go.

Speaker 22 (01:51:53):
I wasn't being smart.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
No, that's.

Speaker 14 (01:51:59):
That's what I said.

Speaker 7 (01:52:00):
You can be yo, for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
You heard that ship?

Speaker 16 (01:52:04):
Right?

Speaker 36 (01:52:05):
Y'all thinking too much?

Speaker 14 (01:52:06):
Anything?

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
No, girl, go ahead?

Speaker 9 (01:52:08):
Is nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
I don't care what you're talking about. I'm gonna stick
to you. I'm gonna stick it to you. Want that
that ship was nuts?

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Chat? Are you here?

Speaker 16 (01:52:17):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Go ahead?

Speaker 11 (01:52:19):
Okay?

Speaker 26 (01:52:22):
What DoD y'all think about people calling their friends siss
or sister or bro and they're not obviously brothers and sisters?

Speaker 11 (01:52:31):
What do y'all think about that?

Speaker 12 (01:52:34):
I do it and I don't trust I do it
and I don't trust it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
That's crazy for sure, y'all.

Speaker 12 (01:52:45):
I don't trust that ship man bro Bro. Bro is
worse than when I hear a woman say bro is
worse than I hear say best friend. I trust the
woman that said this was her best friend before I heard.
But I heard I heard brother the bro and says,
I'm like, oh, they most they might still currently be
cracking because what they didn't put in front of it

(01:53:06):
was step. She should just say that's my step, bro,
so we know that they cracked.

Speaker 17 (01:53:12):
Was I feel you?

Speaker 33 (01:53:16):
And the reason I say that because if I ever
say that, I really look at you like that, it
ain't even know nothing but that best friend stuff be tricky.

Speaker 14 (01:53:26):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 12 (01:53:27):
I guess I just didn't see in it too often,
like and it's it's me. I don't got no doubt
on this. This is this is one rare situation where
I'm just saying, this is my personal feeling about hearing
BRO and yeah, because I feel I don't know what
it is that like like' I think I think it's
something about hearing the cyst and bro abbreviation make me

(01:53:50):
feel sometimes.

Speaker 16 (01:53:54):
Bro.

Speaker 33 (01:53:54):
Either we were raised like that and we're not biological.
When I say that, like, it's you know, that's different
from me.

Speaker 12 (01:54:03):
I feel my cousin, so them is my cousins, right like,
but my little my blood sister that came from my mother,
I call her sister. She ain't never been sis. You
know what I'm saying. Even my cousin that's my blood,
my first cousins, my auntie sons. I call them my brothers,
right because we was raised like that. My brother, they're
not my bros. Like that my bro, that's my brother.

(01:54:26):
That's my brother.

Speaker 14 (01:54:27):
You're stuck on hyphen I mean, that's that's on me.

Speaker 9 (01:54:32):
I accept that.

Speaker 14 (01:54:33):
No, I wasication, that's all.

Speaker 12 (01:54:36):
Yeah, this is my weird thing. But when I hear
a woman say that's my bro, I say, yeah, that
nigga cracking. She said, if he ain't cracking, he can
like he's sexely attracted to that nigga broke keeps it safe.
Was like, he not my friend because I was working.
But we have but but yeah, brother, I feel I
just feel like brother is different and bro.

Speaker 17 (01:54:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 42 (01:54:55):
I people just don't really understand or think deeper into
their friendships with these other with the opposite gender, right.
I think that a lot of women don't really realize
how manipulative they are when they have these male friends.

(01:55:15):
And this is coming from a female that I grew
up in the hood, so I had a lot of homies.
I thought these were my homies, that they were like
just like family. But when I really put it into perspective,
I realized that if I gave all these men the chance,
that they definitely would crack.

Speaker 14 (01:55:34):
And it was.

Speaker 42 (01:55:35):
It wasn't until I started realizing that some being honest,
let's go, a lot of these men were really trying
to just you know, sliding there and be those emotional
tampons and be there for emotional support until they got
the chance. And it wasn't until I started realizing the pattern,

(01:56:01):
and for Sean pointed it out to me, like he
was like, man, you're letting these men be your friend first,
and then they think that they have the opportunity and
they slide and and honestly they be sliding.

Speaker 12 (01:56:12):
And but women, women, listen.

Speaker 42 (01:56:15):
My reasoning to have these men around was always to
have the person that I really wanted compete with them.
And it wasn't until I really started realizing the patterns
in the cycles of my own my own you know,
my own behaviors. That I was like, okay, okay, so
this is how I'm manipulative, this is what I'm doing.

(01:56:37):
And that's when I really was like, you know what,
I don't I don't need this because it was really
it was really causing a hindrance to the relationships that
I really wanted to put effort into, and I wasn't
realizing how I was low key self sabotaging.

Speaker 12 (01:56:54):
That that Madi, we don't have the other thought, that's
the wildest shit I've heard today, and I think that
might be the really ship that has come off my Yeah,
I would agree.

Speaker 42 (01:57:06):
Wow, But that's that's me being south of Candle.

Speaker 12 (01:57:09):
You know, I'm saying that just woke something up that
I think a lot of women would have difficulty excepting
that they do that. That's what the That's what a
lot of these these best these be damn that.

Speaker 22 (01:57:30):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
No, that ship was deep. That's royal. What's up? Yeah?
That was that was deep?

Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
Right there?

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Royal? How you feel about that?

Speaker 18 (01:57:35):
It was deep?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
That ship was deep, man, that I know, your gonna
come in here, kicks ship over, doctor B. Doctor B,
gonna come in here, kick sh it.

Speaker 7 (01:57:44):
Over.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
I know how he do kick it over, Kick it over.

Speaker 32 (01:57:47):
Mother, y'all think she's cute, and now that's kick it over,
kick it over, bro, right, now she's cute that I.

Speaker 16 (01:57:55):
Think I kick that.

Speaker 32 (01:57:57):
None of y'all something about that the found of the
motherfucker that's like next level, I doctor, I can't that quick,
because that's that's the bigger point, and that's that's what
we're trying to kind of get to. Like, niggas always

(01:58:17):
have this different type of affinity for women. They find
the track, they treat them differently, like how they would
treat the chick that they're what trying to fuck.

Speaker 15 (01:58:27):
Yeah, you know, someone got mad at me.

Speaker 14 (01:58:32):
Bracelet.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
They should.

Speaker 12 (01:58:36):
I'm a little I'm a little man.

Speaker 14 (01:58:38):
I am you fucking for bracelets?

Speaker 16 (01:58:40):
I'm like before exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:58:45):
What we're not.

Speaker 12 (01:58:47):
We're not gonna let doctor be get us away from
that point, right because at the at the end of
the day, women women will use that is a benefit
to women to use a man that they think is
measurable in society that they don't want to posture for
the not just other men, but for the world. And

(01:59:07):
I think secretively that that was deepest hell to me
like she wanted, she wants, she wants the man that
she really wants to see this and improve and be
better than him or prove him wrong.

Speaker 32 (01:59:18):
But I didn't say she was wrong, but like as
because I know, like ya, because I've listened to you
talk your intelligent brother as a nigga who's a scholar,
you didn't find that deep.

Speaker 12 (01:59:27):
I found it profound that she It was deep because
a woman, he was three, doctor b. It was profound
because a woman said it and admitted it. That's deep

(01:59:50):
to me because women.

Speaker 4 (01:59:51):
Don't do that.

Speaker 12 (01:59:53):
You look look look royal when y'all are not that
hYP You said.

Speaker 16 (02:00:00):
That, said that you would not come out to be
like hey, you know what you in your back and.

Speaker 20 (02:00:09):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:00:11):
If GG would have said that, doctor me, I was like,
I'm with you when you're right, it might be time
to get off that when making this I might need.

Speaker 9 (02:00:18):
To step off.

Speaker 25 (02:00:20):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Whatever, Yo, let's go, Yo. Loves.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Thanks for coming through, bro, which how you feel about
this man? We've been talking about our men and women,
you know, can they be best friends with no hitting agenda?
But then we switched it up to this topic, which
was our nice guys really nice or just manipulating with
a smile, however you want to take it. Man, thanks
for coming through love.

Speaker 12 (02:00:43):
Ah, look, peace to the guys, king.

Speaker 43 (02:00:46):
Yeah, should I addressed both of them? Man, that's a
good ass that's a good ass topic. Man, She let
me address the first one. Can men and women be
best friends without you said, without hidden agendas?

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
Yeah, without any hiden agendas on any hidden tricks or
you know, any.

Speaker 4 (02:01:06):

Speaker 43 (02:01:07):
It is possible. It's not impossible, right, It's not impossible.

Speaker 25 (02:01:15):
Is it common?

Speaker 43 (02:01:18):
I don't know if it's common because of the way
we assimilate socially. Right, But here's what I will say
if I'm speaking on men. If you say men, I'm
gonna assume it's a man. And by man, we know
that man is a social construct, right, not the biological
term male, but a social construct. And if there's a
certain criteria of things that you have to meet to

(02:01:41):
be deemed or determine a man. So, as a man,
I believe you have the distinctive quality to discipline yourself.

Speaker 25 (02:01:52):
Beyond your desires.

Speaker 43 (02:01:56):
So even if you had the desire to, let's say,
sleep with a thousand women, and you had the ability
to do so I think as a man, you're disciplined.

Speaker 20 (02:02:09):
Is what.

Speaker 43 (02:02:12):
Is what gathers you most right, is what anchors you.
And so you don't indulge. You have the ability to,
but you don't. So now let's go to Ken. You
have a female best friend, you can as a man.
But the thing is the innate human response to closeness.

(02:02:33):
You know, the oxytocin, the the different hormones that are
gonna be released. You're gonna have a real strong tie
to that person, and you may be closer to that
person than they are to their person, and that may
pose a problem, that may pose a significant problem. So

(02:02:54):
I don't know if as a man you would want
to be the best friend to a woman that actually
had a husband.

Speaker 25 (02:03:01):
I don't know. I don't know if that's the best
thing for you.

Speaker 43 (02:03:04):
But I can say men and women can be best friends,
but you'd probably be better off than being a best
friend with somebody of your same sex. I'm just saying
it's possible, but maybe you should be best friends. A
man should be best friends with a man, a woman
should be best friends with a woman. But I think
it's still possible. It's just I don't know if women
know how to navigate around having a male best friend

(02:03:25):
while they're in a relationship with another man, because it's like,
now she got two men exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
That's what we were saying. Earlier, Los, somebody was saying, Lows,
compete this bro. We was hearing the story from Royal.
You know, I'm gonna stick you to it, Royal. Every
time she was saying that she had a male best friend.
But he was waiting in the bushes for this lady
all his life.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
He's been waiting.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
I'm here for you, I'm here for you. I got
your fucking back. Let me look out for you. And
then he was waiting to make a move. That's why
I was saying, Lows, I don't want you to have
a best friend. I don't give a fuck. You know
what I'm saying, When once I come in the picture,
you cut that shit the fuck off, or you want
to go with him Destiny, That's what I was saying.

Speaker 43 (02:04:04):
I don't think it's socially acceptable on a woman's part.
Two really, like, here's the only determining factor. And I
hate to be I hate to be biased like this,
but let's listen, men love with condition, right, So we
have to make conditions in terms, right, we have to.
If you're gonna have a male best friend, that nigga

(02:04:25):
gotta be gay off the top. Listen, you don't gotta
like them, right. And I get that for Sean because
but this is what I'm saying. If that's the case,
I would rather he be gay. I would rather he
be a flaming hot cheeto, you feel me, because the
otherwise the sexual inclinations and things of that sort a

(02:04:48):
woman is open to. Because whenever a man has anchored
himself so closely to a woman's emotions and her securities
and things of that name nature, she she is.

Speaker 25 (02:05:01):
By nature open. It's just it's just how it is.

Speaker 43 (02:05:04):
The problem is with a lot of these dudes is
they soft anyway, so the chick really just be using
them for emotional stability and really a chatty patty partner.
They usually never really get these dudes no butt and
keep it real, these dudes be waiting waiting, they be
waiting in the background.

Speaker 25 (02:05:22):
Yeah, they usally don't get him. Duds, no booty, you know.

Speaker 43 (02:05:24):
What I'm saying, Like no pool, pool, no pool right,
I'm just you know, but you know, could we call
a booty call. It won't mean going in the boot
I'm just saying, Yeah, they really don't get no ass
like that. They don't, don't. They always get treated and used.
You know, most of them dudes get used. You see
most of them dudes trying to get on with the
girl and it never really happened because women are users.

Speaker 16 (02:05:47):
Man.

Speaker 43 (02:05:47):
They'll have a male best friend and really just use
that guy. But that's the thing you wouldn't want as
a man. You wouldn't want your woman using some other
man for her emotional stabilities and her other things.

Speaker 25 (02:05:58):
Now, when she's mad at you, she uses. That is
the thing, and its ship.

Speaker 43 (02:06:00):
I just don't think it's a stable thing, right, and
it's not the best thing to have. And like like
Stack said, nah, I ain't going.

Speaker 25 (02:06:08):
I ain't going for that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
I ain't going at all. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 25 (02:06:12):
I ain't gonna look for that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Let's continue who's in there through question?

Speaker 25 (02:06:17):
Nice guys.

Speaker 7 (02:06:19):
With a smile?

Speaker 25 (02:06:20):
Yeah, nice guys are manipulators. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not nice. I'm not nice. I'm a good man,
I'm a great man. I'm not a nice man.

Speaker 43 (02:06:31):
Nice men are the reason why we are we are
where we are right now in society. They're the reason why,
as a quote unquote for lack of a better term,
as a black community, we ain't ship because nice guys
don't stand on no motherfucking business. They simp and ask niggas,
they don't assert masculine dominance in areas that we need,

(02:06:53):
and they allow the bauchery, They allow buffoonery, unruly nature,
and they helped perpetuate the stigma and stereotype that Black
men are weak. So nah, nice guys finished last for
a fucking reason. And women don't even pair bond well
with nice niggas. Like at the end of the day,
they use y'all to to get whatever they want and

(02:07:15):
then in two years or so they over you because
they're not even producing enough of the hormone. It keeps
them attaching niggas like you. You just don't really stand
on business like that. So nah, nice guys trash and yeah,
they just manipulators at the end of the day. And
most nice guys is the ones that beat y'all lass anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
So we got lost coming in appreciate you gotta get
lost on the podcast too, for sean lot, send me
a message.

Speaker 10 (02:07:42):
Man, and it shouldn't see nothing else said. It shouldn't
have been nothing else said after the nigga just dropped
that bomb.

Speaker 20 (02:07:48):
I have nothing else to say after that nigga. Nothing.
He's hit every point.

Speaker 44 (02:07:56):
It's gonna be the time where it's gonna be the
time where I'm one balanced. It's gonna be the one
time y'all hear me do just the one subject where
women are completely delusion in mass. Even even if you
think you're you're not that one. Most times, y'all are
You don't know what a person's intentions are. You can't

(02:08:18):
even you can't even speak to it.

Speaker 20 (02:08:19):
You can't.

Speaker 44 (02:08:19):
You can't tell me that your male best friend that
you've known for this many years would never do the
shut up sound dumb. Secondly, imagine that my girl fighting
for a relationship with another man is crazy. It's insane, uh,
thinking that I'm about to split my time the limited

(02:08:40):
time I already get with her between work and the
other things you gotta do with another nigga, sign me out,
I promote her.

Speaker 20 (02:08:48):
As the customer.

Speaker 44 (02:08:49):
It's a rap that's not happening, and the logic just
don't follow You ever noticed that every time these women
talk about their male best friend, he always like one
of the dopest niggas. This nigga always cool as fuck.
He got a great job, he worked out with her,
They go out to eat for He a legendary nigga
for suthing. But but but Dan ain't got no chemistry.

(02:09:10):
They don't want each other at all. Best friend, Yeah,
for sure, he's six three. This nigga used to hoop.
He used to used to hoop overseas and all.

Speaker 20 (02:09:20):
It.

Speaker 44 (02:09:21):
It ain't never no three hundred and fifty pound nigga
man tits.

Speaker 17 (02:09:25):
Come on, it ain't never.

Speaker 44 (02:09:26):
Know three hundred and fifty pound nigga with man tits
who worked the fries at McDonald's, you know, who still
stay with his mama. She got to pay for him
whenever they go out, because he ain't never got no money.
It ain't never one of them type niggas. Ain't no
one of them niggas who ain't got no holes, who
ain't got no will It ain't. It ain't never a
nigga who ain't doing shit. It's always just about some
motion having ass nigga who hands them.

Speaker 9 (02:09:49):
But they just don't want each other.

Speaker 17 (02:09:50):
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 43 (02:09:54):
Let your best friend had to snatch waist with the
BBL and the motherfucker that and the motherfucker and the
d cup Johns. And I'm saying, let your let Jarvis's
best friend have that and see how his girl feel.

Speaker 25 (02:10:09):
You know what I'm saying. He's like, oh, baby, I'm
going out with my best friend. We're gonna have dreams.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
She's gonna have a hard time.

Speaker 25 (02:10:15):
Nigga, what nigga she want to go?

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
She's like, well, I'm coming to She's gonna try to
tag along. What are you talking about.

Speaker 12 (02:10:24):
She's gonna be fine. She's gonna be fine to the nones.

Speaker 7 (02:10:26):
Nigga what he only better than y'all as hell?

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Yeah, competing like a motherfucker.

Speaker 43 (02:10:32):
That's what I'm saying. They know they don't want that man.
They know they don't want that bro.

Speaker 25 (02:10:37):
They don't want that. Stop it.

Speaker 12 (02:10:41):
A nice A nice guy is the worst type of
predator because stack he he's he's he's he's positioning his
uh niceties, his admission to be nicest, to be agreeable.
He's positioning or trying to negotiate return out of his reability.
And when he doesn't get it. It stores up frustration

(02:11:04):
and anguish and eventually he will explode because he's invested
so much, he's not he feels like he's not getting
any on his return. That that last deposit with no
return will make them cracking.

Speaker 25 (02:11:16):
And nice niggas back door they know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
Oh, let's talk about it.

Speaker 12 (02:11:24):
Let's talk the worst bros.

Speaker 25 (02:11:27):
Listen, real, real life, my situation.

Speaker 43 (02:11:30):
Look, my CEO had a you know these these were
street dudes, right, he had a homeboy who big, laughy, cheesy,
smiley nigga man. Every a time that niggas say a joke,
that nigga laughing the loudest anytime.

Speaker 25 (02:11:44):

Speaker 43 (02:11:45):
And you never seen these niggas disagree. You never seen
this nigga in particular. You know, ever go against the
grand because everybody know, real men, they gonna stand on
their opinions, even if it's in my best friend nigga.
We're gonna argue about something, nigga because we men, we
disagreeable to our own you know, morals and principles, whatever

(02:12:06):
you stand on I stand. Me and Faesean did had
back and forth where we sharpened our intellect off each other,
and you could see us nourishing our intellects by.

Speaker 25 (02:12:15):
Those swards, going back and forth.

Speaker 43 (02:12:16):
Right, and so, a real man ain't never gonna dis
agree with everything you say, because how can we ever
get sharper and smarter if we just I'm just a
yes man. We call them yes men. Niggas don't like
those niggas. So this nigga was a yes man. Basically,
these dudes got money together. Whatever make a long story
super duper short. I gotta deal with I got my
deal with Babo with my first deal. We was all

(02:12:39):
up in New York. These niggas left three days early
because we finishing the album. They left three days early,
but me, the CEO nigga, and we stayed up there
to finalize the last couple of tracks. They kidnapped this
man's girl, held her for a million dollars ransom, and
then unlive to her bro. By the time we got

(02:12:59):
back to Baltimore, she was unlive. I got a phone
call from Harveyer, the President bad Boy, say we not
moving forward with your deal no more.

Speaker 25 (02:13:06):
I lost my deal.

Speaker 43 (02:13:07):
Was back in the hood for six years off a
nice ass nigga, bro. Nice ass niggas is the worst game.

Speaker 17 (02:13:13):
Fuck.

Speaker 35 (02:13:14):
And we're always talking about the love bombing, right, Like
at the love bombing is like such a huge conversation
on this app, right, that's the love bombing. When a
man never disagrees with you, never says no, never, that's it.
Like if you want a red flag, that's it. If
you don't have any disagreements on anything when you meet someone,

(02:13:36):
it's not possible. It's not possible for two totally different
people to agree on every single thing that you talk about.
That's a red flag.

Speaker 12 (02:13:46):
Laylast a young a young man, a young lady was
recently unalive by her boyfriend, I e. Baby Daddy. That's
a popular temple on the internet, one of the internet's
favorite I don't know his name. I don't I don't
take notes of the simps, but popular popular content creator
has been telling women what to look out for, like

(02:14:06):
Dereck Jackson and he predator and he got mad at
her about something of her behavior and un alive that
this was within like the last two months, like nice
guys are the dangerous men in the world. And and
women don't like to hear that because they hear SIMP
and the automatically they think we're trying to bully him.

(02:14:28):
What they think that a nice game guy got some
type of effect on our ability to date y'all, and
we don't. As men, we're are we are protectors, and
we letting you know, We're letting your sister know. Don't
deal with these type of dudes because they're ticking time bombs.
Not only are they not good for you, they're not
good for community, and they're not good for the future.

(02:14:49):
These are undeveloped soles.

Speaker 20 (02:14:56):
Right now.

Speaker 25 (02:14:57):
One thing.

Speaker 16 (02:15:01):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 32 (02:15:03):
So like I'm just listening to y'all and listen why
I disagree. I'm glad low still me that live. I'm
gonna go get it. When he said real men don't
agree with everything, because I don't agree here, So I
think that makes me a real man.

Speaker 16 (02:15:14):
By deductive logic, I.

Speaker 32 (02:15:16):
Wouldn't be afraid of nice niggas anymore than I would
be afraid of a mean nigga. Like if I wouldn't say, hey,
it's a nice nigga, I don't trust you, but you
a mean niggas, So I'm gonna leave you around my
chick like the mean nigga gonna line you up too,
like he gonna fuck you over before your broad too,
So I don't know like how they temperament really plays
into it. Niggas just fuck niggas over when they can,

(02:15:37):
if any opportunity, posis himself nice, mean, unhappy, depressed happy
like niggas just gonn niggas.

Speaker 16 (02:15:42):
So I don't know if I would just take that ass. No,
I don't trust nice niggas because mean.

Speaker 32 (02:15:48):
Niggas, angry niggas killing niggas everybody, Like they want your bitch,
they can get your bitch, they gonna take your bitch.

Speaker 25 (02:15:54):
Hey, Doc, I got you. He God, I got you
real real quick.

Speaker 43 (02:15:57):
Let me give Laylor want something real quick than dot
which you said it was dope, Leila, When you said
love bombing, you spark something in me to remember romanticism, right,
because a lot of times people associate love bombing as
a form of romance, and you have to break down
the word romance, right or romantic. It's a roman antic,

(02:16:18):
So a roman antic. It was used back in those
times to lure women in even men, right, because they
were hedonists who just had sexual desires to do all
this wild crazy shit. So because they had, you know,
they had wealth, they would you know, love bomb you
so to speak with all types of gifts and all

(02:16:40):
types of you know, rewards and money and things of
that nature, feasts and things, and so the idea of
being romantic comes from these heathennis who really wanted sexual,
who really had a hedonistic sexual urge right of impurity,
So that whole idea didn't even come in as anything genuine.

(02:17:02):
It never was anything genuine. So just to give you
something to add to that love bombing thing that you could,
you could put that with that next time, you know,
drop that you know what I'm saying straight up and
to Doc real quick, Doc you says something dope. But
I think the difference is we're trying to gauge who
is genuine. So it's not that we just accept a

(02:17:23):
mean person. We don't just accept any person, but at
least a mean person gives you more of a barometer
to see something real in them. And if you can say,
you know what, I don't like that at all, then
you could disassociate yourself with a mean person if they
too mean, if they're overbearing, if they're doing too much,
but at least they give you something. But a nice
ass nigga, you just don't know what the thing you

(02:17:46):
don't know, You don't have anything because you're like, man,
this nigga too damn nice, you too damn agreeable.

Speaker 25 (02:17:52):
You don't stand on nothing, Nigga.

Speaker 43 (02:17:54):
We ain't argue about Kobe, Mike and Lebron and you
just agree with everything I say. That should be the wan,
some funny ship. That should be the way all men see.
How really nigga is who to go Kobe like, I'm
just but.

Speaker 12 (02:18:07):
No, That's what I'm gonna say. You know, doctor B
is not that we don't think a mean nigga can
screw you over. We know what to do with a
mean nigga. It's clear that niggas thame.

Speaker 32 (02:18:18):
I'm kind of talking to the terms as of a
woman like women don't. Nice niggas ain't even a threat
because women don't even like nice niggas, like the mean
niggas have all the whole. So I wouldn't even be
worried about a nice nigga because women don't like.

Speaker 12 (02:18:29):
But see here's the thing that they eventually they do
and it's like no, no, Eventually they settle for eventually
they settle form after.

Speaker 16 (02:18:38):
Don't change the word I could settle for.

Speaker 20 (02:18:42):
You and I like you.

Speaker 12 (02:18:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't like them, but they do
stuff with them. More importantly, they use they use SIPs
or i e. Nice guys to to request behavior from
actual guys they want to sleep with. And that's one
of my biggest issues that y'all heard me talk about
on this specifically, the fact that women use men that
they the behaviors of men that they don't want to fuck,

(02:19:04):
to tell the men they do want to fuck to
act like them, not realizing that the men that they
wanted to fuck act like the men that they didn't
want to fuck. They just become men and they didn't
want to fuck. And unfortunately, when we eventually she keep
sucking the doud she want to fuck it. Then ten
fifteen years later, she's given children to the men that
she didn't want to fuck because he's willing to take
care of her and put up with her after all

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of that fucking, and now he's raising his children under
the same guys that he believes in, which is do
whatever a woman says. So he's reasoning his daughter to
look for a man that's gonna simp out for her,
and he's raising his son to do whatever women say.
And now we got a society that me and your
kids got to grow up with when we got these
soft ass niggas offside, because it's not he was a
fucking softy.

Speaker 16 (02:19:49):
But shine, women don't have kids for niggas they don't want.

Speaker 17 (02:19:53):
Yes, yes they do.

Speaker 16 (02:19:57):
They go to the clip.

Speaker 32 (02:19:58):
They already have their kids by the niggas that they like. Again, look,
you can just go look at the data. The majority
of women already come with kids because that's the nigga
who they really want to.

Speaker 25 (02:20:06):
They bro, why did access the.

Speaker 16 (02:20:08):
They already come with you.

Speaker 43 (02:20:10):
Why why did access the voice at eighty percent? If
you ask a nice can right now.

Speaker 16 (02:20:15):
So let's let's stay on this one.

Speaker 25 (02:20:18):
First. I'm just saying he said that married, he said
the nice niggas. But I'm talking about hold on because
it's a misconception, Hockey.

Speaker 16 (02:20:25):
Why I gotta hold on when I'm talking? What are
we doing?

Speaker 32 (02:20:27):
Like we I listened to you talked for like ten minutes.
Please thank you so for shat. They have kids by
the men that they love like run the women that
you know, they got kids. They don't have kids for niggas.

Speaker 16 (02:20:37):
They don't like.

Speaker 32 (02:20:37):
They go right to the c and go right the
can coon so the same raisingly, I guess now everybody's
king influence.

Speaker 16 (02:20:45):
We just interrupted. We wasn't doing that. I know, I
know because you keep it interrupted.

Speaker 25 (02:20:50):
That's so relax, Relax, los, nigga, that wasn't me.

Speaker 32 (02:20:58):
That's what I'm saying. You can't be doing it and
then beside was doing it. So I get it, like
y'all very all of y'all strong personalities.

Speaker 18 (02:21:07):
I got y'all.

Speaker 32 (02:21:08):
I just want to finish my statementfore before y'all interrupting.
Und y'all two man game again, So for stan back
to what you were saying. Again, women don't have children
for men they don't love. That's how you know who
loci loves. The nigga who's the cleanup man very rarely
gets a kid, very rarely. The nigga who come after
she got two or three, who saves the day that
nigga don't get a kid.

Speaker 17 (02:21:27):
She's done.

Speaker 20 (02:21:29):
That.

Speaker 12 (02:21:34):
They getting kids, doctors, they get another nigge, he and kids.
He getting step kids and she's gonna give them one.
What's happening is what you what you're saying, and with
me what you saying, and me and King lost is saying.
Is the truth. Both things are happening, right. He is
most definitely giving that nigga kids, right, and he's getting
the ability to raise another nigga kids. The two things

(02:21:58):
are happening. But to think that these simpass niggas ain't
getting kids, ter he at least giving them one. Matter
of fact, matter of fact, this was happening. He giving
them three and none of them his, but he thinks
they're his.

Speaker 17 (02:22:09):
That's what really didn't give him.

Speaker 16 (02:22:10):
He gave you step kids.

Speaker 12 (02:22:11):
But but he if he raising them and they got
that simpass philosophy, they.

Speaker 4 (02:22:16):
Ain't his kids.

Speaker 16 (02:22:17):
Kids is biological if you don't have a blood.

Speaker 12 (02:22:21):
They raised, if they've been socialized. But that simpass nigga.
The world fucked up.

Speaker 16 (02:22:26):
Don't know the world. The world is already sucked up.
But they may his kids, like biological makes you kids,
and I.

Speaker 17 (02:22:32):
Ain't given them.

Speaker 12 (02:22:37):
Who is that saying that royal royal? You don't like
charm sometimes, don't do that.

Speaker 14 (02:22:43):
Don't do that.

Speaker 18 (02:22:46):
Something from business real quick before I get out, go.

Speaker 17 (02:22:50):
Ahead, uh.

Speaker 18 (02:22:54):
Uh tea down. There was texting me in the in
the background as I was listening to conversation, and then
I actually started to categorize over the last probably twenty years.
Actually how important, especially in today's society, having a close
i'd actually say multiple close friends as female. And just

(02:23:16):
because you have a female best friend doesn't mean that
you guys go out to dinner all the time. I've
got one. We rarely see. We've probably seen each other
four times in the in the past five years, but
we do talk a lot on the phone. She's a
vice she's a vice president of a she just made
vice president of a major corporate corporation, and she actually

(02:23:36):
helped me get the job that I'm in now. She
made some calls. And so women, as women take more
powerful roles in corporate society, talk to the boss lady
who's on here a lot. As women take more powerful
roles in corporate society, and there are more organizations supporting women.

(02:23:57):
They like I'll just say, my boss is female and
her boss this boss is female. And having having female friends,
having people that you can rely on that don't always
think think like you can open you up to different perspectives.
And the last thing I'll say is I am I'm
actually a stepfather. Uh so you know my kid is

(02:24:22):
that is that is my kid. I don't. I don't
know where that where that comes from.

Speaker 26 (02:24:26):
That's I would say this though I wouldn't want what
I what I find, and I think you're married. Is
like when we talked about best friends, you did not
say your wife and uh huh, you know we've heard

(02:24:48):
about your best friend. But so you don't consider your
wife your best friend? Are those two separate categories?

Speaker 18 (02:24:55):
Two separate categories? I got I don't even like the term,
but I've got multiple friends. I got four or five females.
One passed away a couple of years ago, but four
or five females that I would call very very poor
friend chess.

Speaker 25 (02:25:09):
I have a question of hey, bro got a sister circle?

Speaker 26 (02:25:14):
Well not well, not because I because like my I
would want my husband if he were in his room. Lord,
have mercy a whole man. But you're talking about best friends. Yeah,
my wife, Yeah, I have female friends. But my best
friend helped me do X, Y and Z. My best
friend helped me do this, My best friend helped me

(02:25:36):
do that, My wife helped Like we're hearing a lot
about these, but how appreciative you are these best friends
and how they've helped you?

Speaker 15 (02:25:44):
So what's your wife chopped living?

Speaker 7 (02:25:45):
And I got to do with chat.

Speaker 14 (02:25:46):
I think it was not to hold.

Speaker 18 (02:25:57):
Something real quick. First of all, my wife she's in
the she's in my PTR now. Oh, I's a director
of operations for a major hospital. So you know there
are she's to remember you.

Speaker 16 (02:26:09):
You work before it, don't you.

Speaker 20 (02:26:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (02:26:14):
Yeah, she's around multiple five hundred thousand dollars plus doctors.
She's away on trips and conferences. They're they're and some
are good looking. Okay, so you got to have it.
You have to have a trust and respect when you're
playing at a different level. I understand. In the way
and doctor B or one of y'all loath, I understood,

(02:26:38):
and it completely agreed with. Yeah, be careful of dudes
that want to hang around your girl all the time, right,
I I completely understand that. But I'm just saying from
a from a business perspective, if you want to succeed
in today's society, you better have You need to have
a gay best friend. You need to have you need
to have a couple of female best friends. You need
to be eclectic in order to move to move forward.

Speaker 26 (02:27:02):
I don't know, I don't I don't I don't understand
why you believe that maybe you're you and your work
are the only people that uh have acquired some some
level on the corporate ladder because you aren't.

Speaker 11 (02:27:22):
This is what I will say.

Speaker 26 (02:27:24):
Uh oh lord, hope nobody recording this. I don't like
working with women. They're caddy. Oh they don't, but they caddy.
I'll just say that women are caddy. I've had a
lot of issues with women, especially being in leadership positions
where I have a lot of issues with women. I
would rather work with and for me in my own business,

(02:27:46):
but I would rather work with.

Speaker 25 (02:27:47):
Men than women.

Speaker 26 (02:27:49):
Now women, there are women that love me, but they're
also women that hate me. And so I don't know
about telling people telling men to have female friends because
to me, that just at work, that just seems like
it's drama. Then you got your work wife and she
cooking and all of that. I just think that that
that leaves room or could leave possible room for perceptions

(02:28:14):
to be misconstrued. For you know, she know your wife
out of town. So let me go ahead and bring
you something to eat. I cooked for my husband, but
I go ahead and bring you something because I know
your wife's side of town, and I'm looking out for her.

Speaker 18 (02:28:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:28:24):
That's just to me.

Speaker 26 (02:28:25):
That just leaves a little little pinky tore pinky toe
big toe in the door.

Speaker 14 (02:28:29):
And I have a question too.

Speaker 33 (02:28:30):
I think what you were Yeah, I agree with everything
you said, but I think it was doctor being about
to be kriptman if I'm wrong, But I think you
asked a question.

Speaker 14 (02:28:37):
In another room we had. You were like, what's the
purpose of all?

Speaker 33 (02:28:43):
Oh, okay, but my thing because y'all name it all,
y'all name it all the stuff that other people.

Speaker 17 (02:28:47):
Get paid to do.

Speaker 14 (02:28:48):
So what is I'm confused on the purpose as well?

Speaker 20 (02:28:55):
This outside of business.

Speaker 44 (02:28:57):
They can't think outside We had outside of business and
conducted some type of business. They can't.

Speaker 16 (02:29:05):
And I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 17 (02:29:08):
Trent.

Speaker 32 (02:29:09):
You said your wife had a child before she met you.
Do I have a child together biologically?

Speaker 12 (02:29:14):
That's what I'm trying to ask them.

Speaker 32 (02:29:16):
Hold on, oh doctor, b whole ship while everybody just
hold on, please, because I just want I hope my
theory is wrong.

Speaker 16 (02:29:25):
Do you have a biological child with your wife? Damn?

Speaker 25 (02:29:31):
He said it was a stepdaddy.

Speaker 17 (02:29:35):
It's different what I was saying is have kids. I
don't have kids by you.

Speaker 25 (02:29:43):
I don't.

Speaker 18 (02:29:46):
Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 16 (02:29:47):
The question was just a yes or no. You said no.
So this is back to my theory, and this is.

Speaker 17 (02:29:54):
This is not right.

Speaker 32 (02:29:56):
This is not for hen report is dead okay in
the day and an escort good cars. So again, women
have children for men that they love when they need help.
Whoever is the best guy that can help is who

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they will take. But that womb is regulated for niggas
that they actually love.

Speaker 4 (02:30:25):
With a heart.

Speaker 32 (02:30:27):
I can give this a personal situation. My son's mother,
my son's next to me right now, hopefully got his
headphones on. He can't hear me.

Speaker 16 (02:30:33):
He can hear me. Put your headphones on't hear me.
So her current boyfriend, she.

Speaker 17 (02:30:38):
Don't love that nigga.

Speaker 16 (02:30:39):
He's not me, the one who she gave her womb
to who she loves.

Speaker 32 (02:30:45):
That nigga just does all the shit because she needs
somebody to help her because I'm not there no more.

Speaker 16 (02:30:51):
She don't love that nigga. If she could have came back,
she would have.

Speaker 32 (02:30:55):
But if you don't have a kid by your wife,
a woman I don't know, I would always question if
she truly loves if you already have a kid, that's different.

Speaker 43 (02:31:07):
Give you do when a doc when Trent hanging out
with the with the girls, he'd be saying, ship like, now,
no offinished to your husband, but you look delectable to.

Speaker 4 (02:31:20):
Do you know?

Speaker 12 (02:31:22):
I'm been trying to get that question off. I was
hoping I was wrong.

Speaker 18 (02:31:28):
Yeah, chat you know Meredith? Do you know Meredith Island?

Speaker 4 (02:31:33):
I do?

Speaker 18 (02:31:34):
Yeah, Meredith Iler is one of my closest friends. Meredith
Vilers one of the.

Speaker 17 (02:31:41):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 18 (02:31:45):
Might want to look up who I am because I
already know who you are.

Speaker 25 (02:31:50):
That's how he get him in because.

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
His best friend.

Speaker 18 (02:32:09):
Is what I'm saying here. Meredith Eyler was going to
get me to run for Houston City Council in two
thousand and nine, her and multiple other people in her
public girl. Yeah yeah, yeah. So so just all I'm
gonna say is, before we prejudge each other on this
app uh, we should know who you are. So shout

(02:32:30):
out to the Woodlands girl. It's good to see.

Speaker 43 (02:32:35):
Hey for Sean. Do you know do you know Sha
with Thompson? Because I'm I'm telling you right now, she
braids my Head's interesting. It's interesting that happened. It's interesting
that happen because none of that matters.

Speaker 44 (02:32:49):
And we're talking about relationship dynamics, like like none of
it the city and no shame to you, nothing but
the city council in and not.

Speaker 16 (02:32:55):
None of this suff matters.

Speaker 44 (02:32:57):
It's straight up between me and my woman and our
side people. I agree with Chat one hundred percent that
they all married their woman.

Speaker 15 (02:33:03):
Chat.

Speaker 17 (02:33:04):
I told her you my best.

Speaker 20 (02:33:05):
Friend after autumn, like, yeah, yeah, you're my best friend.

Speaker 17 (02:33:08):
Maybe you got it.

Speaker 44 (02:33:08):
I have to go ahead and give it up to her.
But that to imagine that another person is that for me?
Like I said before, outside of business, because they always
just talk about business. What is the functionality of a
female best friend that you can't get from your the
functionality you can get from a male your male best

(02:33:29):
friend or for your woman. In this context, if you
have a woman, what what what? What's what's she there for?
What's your female best friend there for? Fellasis, ladies, what's
your male best friend there for?

Speaker 17 (02:33:40):
What functionality?

Speaker 5 (02:33:43):
Listen, Memphis brother, now you got to talk. Now I
know him and that I know y'all can share wigs.
So aside from it, you gotta.

Speaker 30 (02:33:54):
Give me a good one, and I know, I know
the length of my hair is triggering for most of
the women in your family.

Speaker 7 (02:34:00):
Jervis, But.

Speaker 25 (02:34:04):
Don demato, don Demaco.

Speaker 30 (02:34:07):
But no, listen, man, I think it's just about semantics.
Because I agree with you, bro, like your wife, your
wife should be your best friend. So I respect that,
and I honor that when you say that. But again,
as a person that has a female best friend of
three decades now, it's just a different relationship, you know,
it's just a completely different relationship. When I was married,

(02:34:29):
my wife obviously came before her, but they developed a relationship.
What I was getting, I don't think it was necessarily
something I was trying to quantify. I wasn't trying to
quantify that I get this from you or we're here.

Speaker 7 (02:34:44):
It was just a bond. It was a relationship.

Speaker 30 (02:34:46):
It was a friendship that has lasted, you know, through
trials and tribulations, through death, through marriage, divorced, all that
good stuff. And we've always been locked in doing business together,
all that stuff. But it's a completely separate relationship that
and the one that I would have with my wife
or or you know, whatever the case may be. So
I see your point, But I think that. As I

(02:35:07):
was listening to you say that, drivers I was saying,
I don't think I've ever asked the question, what is
she giving me that my wife can't? Because that's that's like,
that's not the comparison. It's not you know, that's not
the metric for me. It's like, Yo, this is just
a friend of mine who's been around the question. So
I'm answering the question.

Speaker 12 (02:35:28):
Maybe not the way as again for me, I'm lost.

Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
Now take the.

Speaker 16 (02:35:32):
Question asked me what the best girlfriend does for you?

Speaker 25 (02:35:39):
To hell caused divorce?

Speaker 12 (02:35:43):
Toxic?

Speaker 27 (02:35:48):
Hey?

Speaker 25 (02:35:48):
Hey, can I throw some salt in this ship? Bro?
Make this ship salty.

Speaker 43 (02:35:52):
I think if you're best friends with your with your
wife or your husband, I think that's toxic too.

Speaker 12 (02:35:58):
I'm with you to some degree.

Speaker 43 (02:36:00):
Can we talk about I think your partner should be
your closest friend, but I think your best friend needs
to be somebody of your same sex outside of your shit,
like your best friend should be. Because I don't think
everything you should tell your wife, and I don't think
everything you should tell your husband some shit is for
your best friend. And then your husband and your wife
should be your closest friend. You are my closest friend,

(02:36:23):
my dearest friend. But my best friend needs to be
a man. So when I'm going through man shit, I
could lean on my best friend. You need a woman
best friend. You desperately need a woman best friend because
I think her name is Chat.

Speaker 25 (02:36:35):
Is it Chat? She said?

Speaker 43 (02:36:37):
Chat was talking about how women are caddy in this.
But yeah, but you need sister circle because when you're
feeling for some femininity, when you want me to be
not intelle, excuse me, emotionally available, I ain't with all
that shit.

Speaker 18 (02:36:51):
You need a woman.

Speaker 25 (02:36:52):
You need a woman to be emotionally available to.

Speaker 43 (02:36:54):
So y'all could do that. So I think your best
friend should be another woman. My best friend should be
another man, But you should be my close his friend
and my wife. Yeah, that's how I think it should be.

Speaker 12 (02:37:02):
And that's why I'm halfway with you, because I'm one
hundred percent on the man's side.

Speaker 17 (02:37:06):
Right.

Speaker 12 (02:37:06):
I'm with you in the sense that, uh, my best
friend is gonna be my mentors, my my my brothers, right,
it's gonna be a man.

Speaker 17 (02:37:15):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:37:15):
But I also think that I should be my wife's
best friend. I don't think she needs to trust anything
with anybody else more than me, but I do. But
I do agree that that sister circus paramount for her health.

Speaker 25 (02:37:30):
I might be who knows, but I'm just going to
be mostly available.

Speaker 12 (02:37:34):
Nigga, I'm mostly available.

Speaker 9 (02:37:37):
He can't.

Speaker 12 (02:37:38):
I'm not willing for her to be willing to tell
anybody else something she's not willing to tell me, and
I think that's best friendship and I need. I need
full compliance, even if it's with We got counseling. We
got counselors for this.

Speaker 16 (02:37:53):
I don't know he.

Speaker 12 (02:37:55):
Needs somebody that deep. It's a therapist. We got a
family therapist.

Speaker 25 (02:37:58):
He's got women sistersracles gang.

Speaker 12 (02:38:01):
They she do, but I'm saying she shouldn't be telling
them ship that you can.

Speaker 25 (02:38:07):
Why your wife can't have one?

Speaker 12 (02:38:10):
I don't. I can't have my woman talking to nobody
outside of therapy more than me. It is God therapy.

Speaker 10 (02:38:18):
That's all jealousy and control of real I don't know
you'll get that.

Speaker 12 (02:38:24):
If you want to try to attack my point intellectual
capital to do so, because jealousy has nothing to do
with hierarchy and position.

Speaker 20 (02:38:32):
It's not it's not a hierarchy.

Speaker 10 (02:38:34):
Why can they listen everything like like like everything your
wife don't suppose to know.

Speaker 20 (02:38:41):
Why would you even want your wife.

Speaker 10 (02:38:43):
To see those sides of you? I said, I said,
one thing, You've been talking for twenty minutes. Bro, Sometimes
you got to shut up all you want. I'm just saying, like,
sometimes you gotta.

Speaker 12 (02:38:57):
Are you not saying that's the point, because I'm staying
already and I'm being I'm being I allowed you to
interject me with with a statement, and I'm addressing a
statement and I'm correcting you because it's not jealousy. Jealousy
would be me wanting something that they that they have
that I feel like I need because I just wanted.
Me saying I'm not willing to have a woman have
information outside of my house is a security order that

(02:39:20):
has nothing to do with my emotional or personal state.
It's not because I want it for my feelings. That
is an unsafe safety measure that disrupts the function of
the household. Has nothing to do with jealousy. I would
say the same thing for every household. I think it's
ridiculous for a woman to have information that she shares
outside of the family that the leader can't have.

Speaker 17 (02:39:41):
You know who, also don't do that.

Speaker 12 (02:39:42):
The fucking white House don't do that for the president.
The Secret Service ain't doing shit outside of the parameters
of information that the White House or the President can't have.
So no, it has nothing to do with jealousy. Now
you can attack it with something else, and I'd love
to hear that.

Speaker 10 (02:39:58):
All right, Well, you wrong about that they do share
secrets amongst the White House that the President don't know about.

Speaker 20 (02:40:04):
That's already been proven with JFK fousand some more ship.

Speaker 10 (02:40:08):
And you just said yourself that jealousy is you trying
to get something that you don't have. That information that
she's given her friend and her sister is information, all right,
I was okay, whatever that sums it up.

Speaker 17 (02:40:23):
It's not.

Speaker 10 (02:40:26):
That the information that she's sharing her with her friends
is something that you want. You don't want it, but
for yourself you want it. So you could be fucking nosy.

Speaker 20 (02:40:37):
That's a weak man.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
That's just a weak man.

Speaker 20 (02:40:39):
Bro, that's just a weak man.

Speaker 12 (02:40:42):
You did hear nothing else here because I literally laid
it off for you that if it was jealous he
would be me just wanting it for my own benefit.
I said the fact that a woman wants to share
something outside of the family, that the family would need
to know so they can have proper provision. Is the
reason that it's because.

Speaker 43 (02:41:01):
You can navigate that though like for Shan, you can't
navigate a woman's femininity the way another woman can. And
when it comes to the vulnerability aspect of the emotional,
the emotional way that a woman foundates her ideologies. So
the thing is you can know everything and still not

(02:41:22):
be able to help her maintain that thing. And so
when it comes to having a sister circle, that's when
she gains certain stability. Now mind you, we have to
incorporate or assume that the sister circle is someone who
is a highly intuitive, discerning, you know, divine feelingine character.

Speaker 25 (02:41:45):
But okay, I can dig that. But I'm just saying.

Speaker 43 (02:41:50):
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, right, if this your woman,
then you should assume that by you being who you are,
she is choosing someone that has a certain level of
validity in that and that and that aspect, because you
ain't gonna be able to do nothing with that female shit.
And even sometime you knowing that being a logical man,

(02:42:12):
it's gonna throw you the fuck off. Everything that a
woman thinks is not to be capacitated in a man's mind,
and everything that a man thinks is not to be
capacitated in a woman's mind. That's why there's certain things
you don't disclose to your woman because she doesn't know
how to assimilate or compartmentalize those things. Those are masculine measures.

(02:42:33):
And the same goes vice versa for certain things I
don't don't.

Speaker 12 (02:42:37):
I don't subscribe that a man can't come comprise or understand,
you know, certain things that go on in a woman's mind.
And the unique thing here is it's not about her
not being able to say it to the sister circle,
it's her not being able to see it to a man.

Speaker 25 (02:42:51):
So let me ask you, so, let me make sure this.
So let me ask you this question. Then circle, she
should be okay, Well, let me ask you this then. Then,
why in a brilliant years have men not figured out women?

Speaker 12 (02:43:04):
I think, I think, I think I think the right.
Certain men have.

Speaker 43 (02:43:07):
Yeah, but men overall, if we're looking at if we're
looking at statistics generally, right on a general basis, right,
men have not figured out women.

Speaker 12 (02:43:17):
Massively being in the general space that haven't figured out
meniggas don't know who they.

Speaker 25 (02:43:22):
Are, Okay, but you get you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (02:43:25):
Absolutely yeah, real quick, real quick, real quick. Bro, assuming
that we're talking about a conscious man, he can he can,
he can, he didn't figure it out?

Speaker 2 (02:43:39):
Just real quick, bro. Ping the room up, share the
room up. You got the room going crazy?

Speaker 7 (02:43:44):
You and lows.

Speaker 2 (02:43:44):
I like the back and forth. I want to get
some more people in there. Got Mac on the stage.

Speaker 25 (02:43:48):
I got Jarvis, Yeah, I got my peoples up in here.

Speaker 2 (02:43:51):
Yeah yeah, Kevin, you're going crazy King, Let's put put
more people in here.

Speaker 25 (02:43:54):
Back here, dot fight back.

Speaker 1 (02:43:56):
Also, I got a new question for y'all. Who has
more we're dating power? Loads for Sean, doctor, b Prince, Pharma, Nacho,
men or women? Who has more dating power? In twenty
twenty five keys. Click the link and gender wards. You
can join this ship. Let's continue the conversation.

Speaker 12 (02:44:14):
Slit men get more dating.

Speaker 2 (02:44:18):
He lit.

Speaker 25 (02:44:19):
There's less lit men.

Speaker 43 (02:44:21):
Though, so, at the end of the day, women have
more dating power because a scudder but ratchet, little dusty, musty,
crusty bitch can have she got so many options. It's retarded.
Even a multi millionaire man will date a rusty krusty.
But so, at the end of the day. Women have
more dating options. They've always had more dating options because
access to punini is not that fucking great.

Speaker 12 (02:44:42):
They got they got more, They got greater fucking options.
Women got got the.

Speaker 14 (02:44:50):
Something last year.

Speaker 12 (02:44:56):
She got she got great fucking options. She can she
can wake up tomorrow. She could wake up today and
roll over and get cracked by a one hundred niggas
with no problem, with no effort. She got great. But
she can't find nobody to marry you. Nobody commit, nobody
wants to dedicate their life to these fuckers. These little
pussy say, I want to get married tomorrow.

Speaker 15 (02:45:16):
My thing is who is sleeping with her?

Speaker 17 (02:45:19):
That ain't the question.

Speaker 12 (02:45:20):
Niggas.

Speaker 26 (02:45:23):
You say you're navigating from the women are easier, but
who was sleeping with the women?

Speaker 34 (02:45:29):
Niggas?

Speaker 43 (02:45:29):
First of all, men are easy chat, men are exact.
Women are easier. Men are easier.

Speaker 25 (02:45:39):
Planet.

Speaker 12 (02:45:40):
That's that's why women, that's what we fall in.

Speaker 25 (02:45:42):
Love easier, Chad. Let's tell the truth. We fall in
love with scudder but dusty nusties.

Speaker 43 (02:45:48):
At least when Doc was saying women only really give
babies to certain type of niggas or falling, they I
tell you this.

Speaker 25 (02:45:54):
They falling. They only fall they only love certain type
of men, But men love every type of woman.

Speaker 7 (02:45:59):
We love it.

Speaker 11 (02:46:03):
She got some yams on.

Speaker 7 (02:46:05):
Her and I would say this. You know, we living
in a different times fam a lot of these women.

Speaker 30 (02:46:13):
The fact that men won't marry them, that thing is
being lessened because a lot of these daughters don't want
to get married because getting married to one man, you know,
sometimes eliminates their options.

Speaker 7 (02:46:25):
So we're living at a different time.

Speaker 25 (02:46:26):
For Sean, you don't believe that.

Speaker 26 (02:46:31):
Rocking body, y'all, that doesn't even make sense. If men
control marriage, then what does that have to do with
a woman not wanting to get married. I think if
a woman doesn't want to get married, of course that's
her prerogative. But to me, it's more so about the
quality of the men that are out there. Like when

(02:46:54):
y'all keep saying black black women aren't getting married, black
men are more married than than black women, Well that's
because they're black. Men have better options to choose from
than black women do.

Speaker 14 (02:47:05):
That's why black women aren't.

Speaker 4 (02:47:06):
As married as.

Speaker 7 (02:47:10):
That wasn't That wasn't my argument.

Speaker 30 (02:47:12):
My argument was really it was really almost in contradiction
of what but Shan said that a lot of these women,
they get niggas to crack them, but they won't get
a nigga to marry them. I just wanted to highlight
the point that all that that may be true, that
there are there are a certain amount of women that
ain't even looking to be married, you know what I'm saying. Chance,
so they they are, you know, men we outside tonight,

(02:47:33):
you know, but but.

Speaker 26 (02:47:35):
Most of the women that are doing that, they're either
fresh out of a relationship.

Speaker 11 (02:47:41):
And it is a reaction, but they don't. Really women
don't remain outside a check.

Speaker 26 (02:47:46):
Not only do their friends look at them crazy, the
men look at them crazy. No woman would. Only the
women that remain outside are holes. And last I checked,
some of you respect holes. So maybe that's who y'all
are referring to.

Speaker 12 (02:48:00):
No rect.

Speaker 32 (02:48:03):
So are we gonna be like, Yeah, we're gonna are
we We're gonna be the bulls and one like I'm good,
I'm not good at playing like, I can't play horse green,
I don't know how to play horse grind, I don't reba.
I'm not like I'm a bucket get or too. So
we're gonna let other people get buckets too, or we're
just gonna be ready.

Speaker 7 (02:48:26):
The last time I played, I.

Speaker 16 (02:48:27):
Played a minute a Chad. Just want to know, Stack said,
you want other people to get in there.

Speaker 25 (02:48:33):
So when you talked about.

Speaker 43 (02:48:35):
I was speaking to you talking about black in their options.
I want to give you some statistics just so you
know something. Again, this is not the slide nobody. This
is just to put the truth out there. Black women
are the least desired group of women of all ethnicities
and races right now.

Speaker 7 (02:48:55):
They are the least to start the war.

Speaker 25 (02:48:57):
I mean, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 43 (02:48:58):
I'm just giving the real because because when you see
men are more married than Black women, I want to
give the facts to why. When you look at the races, right,
Asian women are the most married, right, White women are
the second, Hispanic third, and then Black women are last, right,
and most desired and least married, falling last in every category.
And they lead in most single single mother births. Right,

(02:49:22):
and they're only married. Twenty six percent of Black women
are married. So you got to break that ship down.

Speaker 15 (02:49:30):
I gotta break what statistic I checked?

Speaker 26 (02:49:34):
No, hell no, because I would you would you would have.

Speaker 11 (02:49:38):
I would have to read the study, my dog, I
could send you the stuff check.

Speaker 14 (02:49:41):
Give me one second.

Speaker 25 (02:49:43):
Okay, yeah, my dog, it dropped to twenty six.

Speaker 15 (02:49:49):
It was thirty eight last three days ago.

Speaker 16 (02:49:57):
Yeah, it's not that nowhere near that.

Speaker 32 (02:50:02):
Lost is actually right though, the every person who desires
black women as much as more than anybody else's black men.
I want to play something for y'all really quick. If
I can between for Shan and Lo's you know, getting
their buckets.

Speaker 2 (02:50:16):
It's really quick. This came from a room we ran
not too long ago.

Speaker 32 (02:50:22):
Ask you a question, Peppa, So you would you ever
date a black woman, a moner racially black woman? No,
have you ever slept with a moneracially.

Speaker 17 (02:50:35):
So?

Speaker 38 (02:50:36):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (02:50:36):
That was a white man.

Speaker 32 (02:50:41):
Ever date a monerationially black woman, But he slept with
a few. Majority of white men hold that position too.
They will fuck y'all. They don't want to be with
y'all in relationships because they get nothing out of it,
like giving you access to whiteness. If y'all think of
are crossing over, giving you access to whiteness is elevating you.

(02:51:03):
Why would they do that when they could just stay
with a white women. The only time they really be
outside with black women is if she's an exceptional black
woman and has more than him, and he benefits more,
because that's the trade your resources for access.

Speaker 25 (02:51:15):
To his statistics.

Speaker 4 (02:51:17):
Dot.

Speaker 25 (02:51:18):
The statistics are.

Speaker 43 (02:51:20):
Thirty four percent of black men are currently married according
to the Census, and twenty nine percent of black women
are married.

Speaker 16 (02:51:29):
So they hedged this then, So you said twenty four,
you had twenty six. I said thirty three.

Speaker 25 (02:51:32):
Se no, no, no, no, thirty four percent black or
married black woden like.

Speaker 32 (02:51:37):
They split our positions on the middle, So we're kind
of we're both wrong.

Speaker 16 (02:51:40):
It was hot, yours was higher, mim was lower.

Speaker 43 (02:51:42):
Well, this is twenty twenty one. I thought I saw
a more recent one that says something different to twenty six.

Speaker 25 (02:51:50):
But that's.

Speaker 16 (02:51:52):
To like thirty is I think we both can can
see there it's around that area.

Speaker 43 (02:51:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's still the lowest, it's right there, but
it's still Black men are more married than black women.
And when it comes to what race and ethnicity of
men are more desired, it teeters between black men being
number one or being number two and white men being
number one or being number two. When it comes to
the most desired men, Latin and than Asian.

Speaker 27 (02:52:18):
So Asian men are, or Asian women are the least
race loyal. I don't know if you're gonna hear me,
and you hear me, okay, well yeah, Asian women are
the least race loyal. I believe that if Black women

(02:52:38):
weren't so race loyal, because Black women and Hispanic women
are the most uh, if we weren't so race loyal,
I believe that we would see higher marriage rates. We
will also see uh, better credit scores, higher income, and
overall emotional well being right healthy. I think what has

(02:53:02):
been hurting black women is, you know, sticking around hoping
that you are I didn't know, stepping sticking like around,
you know, like that's not getting us anywhere, being loyal.

Speaker 11 (02:53:17):
To black men.

Speaker 27 (02:53:18):
And then you hear how they talk about us, so
like what why stay here? They don't want they don't
want us.

Speaker 43 (02:53:25):
I'm scared you're just telling the true chat.

Speaker 25 (02:53:32):
No group of women, no group of men want you collectively.

Speaker 13 (02:53:35):
Though just gets the mean.

Speaker 27 (02:53:39):
So anyway, that's because one they're scared of y'all. Number two,
it's actually an indictment on the men, right, Like if
some of you claim your leaders and I don't understand
how you can read that stat and not have anything
to say to men. Now, do I believe that as
black women we need to get get it together as

(02:54:00):
we can do better just like everyone else can. But
do I believe we can do better?

Speaker 15 (02:54:04):
Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (02:54:05):
Right?

Speaker 27 (02:54:06):
But there are black women that are moving the needles
and putting the next the community on their backs because
black black men have been absent. Black men are not
building community. Why aren't they building community? There are some
black men that would rather drop a baby off in
you than to raise a family with you, rather than

(02:54:33):
build family, and then family build community. So if they
if they want to use that to talk about their sisters,
their wives, their mothers, then then sisters, let's let them
do it. But I'm just saying, we don't have to
remain here. We can go elsewhere.

Speaker 14 (02:54:51):
And I guarantee you I got.

Speaker 2 (02:54:57):
I'm about to, but y'all can move it to I
R because they're going to have a room. But I
gotta go.

Speaker 16 (02:55:01):
You've been going crazy in the conversation.

Speaker 12 (02:55:04):
No, No, you're good, You're good.

Speaker 20 (02:55:07):
I just got some ship to do head over the
I R L.

Speaker 2 (02:55:09):
I'm about to shut this ship down in like ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:55:11):
I appreciate your lost I appreciate you for Sean Farmer
doctor hemmthy not.

Speaker 2 (02:55:15):
I appreciate you Sean.

Speaker 25 (02:55:17):
We can spark to join up.

Speaker 2 (02:55:19):
Let's get it up.

Speaker 12 (02:55:21):
Let's do it.

Speaker 7 (02:55:22):
Spark it up, y'all.

Speaker 25 (02:55:23):
Pull up, hey chat, pull up, y'all, y'all pull up.
Thanks that, thanks that. Let me add you Brody yep, yah,
I hit you with Let me add you to doc
and do I hit you with a d M.

Speaker 18 (02:55:32):
Bro Let's talk.

Speaker 25 (02:55:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, best say yo, go over, let me add.

Speaker 7 (02:55:41):
Uh.

Speaker 25 (02:55:42):
Anybody else need me to add them? Let me know
I add you before we dip out. You know what
I'm saying. But y'all add me. I add y'all back.

Speaker 43 (02:55:51):
We're gonna spark one up. Let's spark something for Sean.
Let's keep this conversation a good conversation, of course.

Speaker 25 (02:55:57):
All right, bet all right, bet all Yeah, I

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