Episode 373: Crawford vs Madrimov preview

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey, what's up, guys. Happy Witness Today Wednesday, Happy Wednesday,
humpday as they call it, right in the middle of
the week, and welcome to the Neutral Corner Episode three
seventy three. I am your host, Michael Montero and tnc
three seventy three for the week of August third. We're

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about to hit August. We're on the downslide of the
remainder of the year. The holidays will be around just
around the corner, right, and we're almost through the dog
days of summer. Thank goodness. It's hot as hell here
in Atlanta and I'm dying. I'm melting this summer. Okay.
So we have a lot to catch up on today,

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and I feel like I say that every time I
go live now because I don't get to do a
weekly show. But it's good to have so much to
talk about, you know that. That's a great thing. So
I'm going to catch up on everything. We're gonna catch
up on all the news. There's plenty of stuff to
talk about there. We will review some of the recent action,
including a great heavyweight fight in London last weekend. By

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the way, if you're not a fan of Derek chaisaur
you're not human. How could you not be a fan
of Derek Chasaur, especially after that. The guy is just
so entertaining man, just a true fighter. So we'll talk
about that, and of course we're gonna preview the Big
Card in LA this weekend and anything else you guys
want to talk about. Phone lines are open, you could

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that momentum going. And I appreciate you guys sticking with
me through this period of my life. By the way.
My youngest daughter, Josie, turned nine months old yesterday, so
we are three months away from our first birthday and
she's already like standing up. She's definitely got her dad's
athletic genes. She takes after me. She's almost as big

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as her sister already. They're only like a pound apart,
even though they're a year apart. So my oldest Jackie
definitely takes after her mom, and my youngest Josie definitely
takes after daddy. But yeah, hit nine months yesterday, so
that was little monsters. They're growing every day. As my
my dad always says, hey, you feed them and they grow.

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That's just his little expression. You feed them, they grow,
and he's right. Super chat from my man CJ. What's
up brother, He says, thank you for the super chat.
He says, coffee on MEMB, have a buddy, got a
suite for the fight Saturday. That's dope, man, that's great.
Price was slashed by thirty percent. Yep, yep, yep. Tickets
are moving slow. Bud stoppage ten to twelve right over

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pit Bull. Okay, you're not the only one who feels
that way. I actually had a friend hit me up today,
who said, you know, should I take that? Should I
take that bet right over pit Bull? And I'm like,
I don't know. I just if it goes to the cards,
I don't know if he can get a decision over
pit Bowll. I don't know about that because there's politics

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on pitbull side. Okay, several different factors anyway, Bruh, I'm
glad that you're in La Man. I haven't been out there.
Shit out there since the year my brother died, So
that's why I went out there to get him, to
try to help him out. And shit, I haven't been

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back since then. So enjoy, brother, Enjoy, have fun at
the fights. But we'll talk about the tickets. They're so overpriced.
I don't know what the hell they're thinking. We'll get
to that. Okay, let's see. Let's jump into some news. Okay.
First of all, guys, new issue of Ring Magazine is online.

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Those of you who subscribe to Digital mag you know
that already. I have an article in there previewing the
fight card this weekend. It's called LA Season, and I
rate each fight on the pay per view according to
its pay per view worthiness. It's competitiveness. I've done a
few articles like that. Now, that's kind of like a
new thing I'm gonna do going forward, previewing some of

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these pay per view cards and just talking about the
worthiness and I grade it on a scale of like
A to F and give you guys my opinions on
several different factors of each fight. So be sure to
check that out. All right, Okay, So other news fighter news,
Hi May Mungia signs with Top Rank. I love this.

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This is a smart move by Top Rank. I think
that it feels you know, Mungia has kind of had
a multi management He's got a couple of different people involved.
But Top Rank I think they're gonna know how to
how to move him and do well promoting him going forward.
So that's a pretty cool move. It will be interesting

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to see what they do. I can't remember that they
have a fight date before Mungia later this year. I
can't remember it off the top of my head. But
I think this will be a good a good deal
for both sides of that, for both Top Rank and
high May Mungia. Okay, speaking of deals, Riadd's season. Who's

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putting on the card this weekend in La Right Turkey?
Ilo Shake Read Season signs partnerships with Golden Boy Promotions
and Top Rank. So, of course Reodd Season's already been
working with Mattroom. They have a great relationship with Mattroom.
But now they're going to have a working partnership, official
working partnership with Golden Boy and Top Rank. So what

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does that mean. That means you're going to see a
lot more of these Redd Season cards, So if you're
a fan of them, this is good news. It also
means you're probably going to see more of them in
the United States because Golden Boy Promotions at Top Rank,
of course, are headquartered in the United States. They're based here,

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so you're probably going to see more of that. You're
probably also going to see more of the American fighters
with Golden Boy at Top Rank travel over to the
Middle East to do fight cards over there. So in
that respect, it's exciting because now that there's this partnership,
you've got Mattroom, you've got Golden Boy, you've got Top Rank,

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and the money talks, right, so if the Saudi's put
up the money, you're gonna see cross promotional fights between
all of them. In fact, the fight card this weekend
in LA multiple promoters are involved, Top Rank, Bash Boxing,
TGB Promotions, Matchroom, and Warriors Boxing are all involved. So

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that's awesome. We need more of that in boxing now.
The potential downside is that, you know, we're getting closer
and closer to a monopoly type of thing happening, which
is similar to UFC. There's good and there's bad related
to that. Turkey Alo Shake has talked about basically buying

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up all the promotional outfits and there's really only one
more major one that they're not working with official partnership with,
So there are some potential downsides to that, But overall,
with the state that boxing is in right now, I
think it's a good thing. It is concerning that these

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promoters are kind of having to sign these big partnerships
with entities overseas to profit. That's concerning. It shows you
kind of where boxing is at in the United States
right now. But perhaps this could be a vehicle and
a tool to kind of bring some of that back

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to see guys getting more active. One of the biggest
issues in boxing, particularly with the certain platforms in America,
is the fighters are just not active. They're fighting once
a year. Terrence Crawford, a guy who's headlining this card
this weekend. He has not even fought yet this year.
This will be his first fight since beating Ero Spence

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last July. It's going to be more than a year
out of the ring coming off the biggest win of
his career. That's crazy, right, So hopefully we start to
see a little bit of that get healed. Okay, let's
see what else. Jack Caterall injured his fight with Regis Progra,
which is a nice solid matchup that has been pushed
back to October. So it's still happening. It's not canceled,

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it's just pushed back a little bit. Caterall's had a
lot of delays in his career. Is just another one
of those guys for different reasons. He's kind of had
just stalls in his career. But so is Regius Progray.
So but I like this matchup. I think it's going
to be a fun fight. Okay. Big fight news quote
unquote Canelo Elvarez versus Berlenga coming up September fourteenth in

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Las Vegas. This of course will be on pay per view.
So a lot of people were pissed off at this
fight being announced. They would like to see Canelo fight
a bigger challenge. I have several opinions on this. I'm
gonna I want to pull up Canelo's record because I
want to make sure I get these correct. And my

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brain is fried right now. So I'm just looking back
at Canelo's schedule here. Okay, In fact, let me go
ahead and share my screen so you guys can look
at what I'm looking at. Hang on one second, let
me share a screen. Let's go, let's go boom. Okay,
can you guys see this? Good? So just going backwards. Okay,

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He's fighting Edgar Berlinga in September, but earlier this year
he fought Haimemungia. Before that, it was Jamel Charlow before that,
John Ryder, before that ancient Kennetic Glovkin who has not
fought since. And then before that it was the Dimitri
Bevo loss. Okay, so I'll only go back that far.
That's going back a couple of years. That schedule, other

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than the Dmitri Bevil fight, that schedule is not what
I would call elite. Now, there are some names on
there that, particularly the America can Fight Press would tell
you our elite names, but that's nonsense. Jamel Charlow. I
never thought he was a pound for pound level guy

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at any point in his career, and I understand he
was undisputed and all that, but he fought in a
weak division and you didn't fight the top challenges. And
I don't blame him for that. The top challenges didn't
have belts at the time. But anyway, that is a
maybe impressive name to some people. I don't particularly look
at that as a top win by Canelo. And then

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I mentioned glove Can. Obviously, at one point glove Can
was a pound for pound level fighter. He's the top
middleweight in the world and a very formidable top five
pound for pound type of guy, at least top ten,
but he wasn't anywhere near that level when Canelo fought
him for a third time at one sixty eight. And
I should also mention that was glove Can's first and

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only fight at one sixty eight, and he hasn't fought since.
Like I said, it's been almost two years now, and
Triple G hasn't fought at Then there's John Ryder, who's
a tough, rugged guy, but he's not obviously even at
the level of like a Jamel Charlo. And then there's
Jim Mugia, who I do feel is somewhat underrated by
certain fans that call him a quote unquote bum. I

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don't look at him like, you know at that level.
In fact, I'd probably favor Jimi Mungia to beat Jamel
Charlo at one sixty eight if they were to fight
at one sixty eight. I actually think Mugia probably beats
both Charlo brothers at one sixty eight, so, you know,
not a bad win, but again not necessarily elite. Then

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we go to Edgar Berlanga, who I think we have
a lot of questions about. I think a lot of
questions will be answered in this fight. Is Edgar Berlanga
more like a John Ryder or is he more like
a Jimi Mumgia type, And we just haven't seen the
best of him yet. Either way, he's certainly not on
the level of like again, going back to early twenty

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twenty two, Dimitri Beevil, who's clearly a pound for pound
level fighter and in his physical prime, and when Canelo
went up against him, he was absolutely dominated. I don't
care the scorecards are one fifteen point thirteen. That's ridiculous.
That was pretty much a shutout. Why do I bring
all this up. I bring all this up to say

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it's very evident, and I've talked about this before. Canelo
Alvarez is at the point in his career where he's
kind of phasing out and he's picking and choosing where
he's gonna fight. He's when he's gonna fight, who's gonna fight,
how he's gonna fight, And because he's the top guy
in the sport, he can do that, and he's no

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longer interested in taking on the top challenges. The only
way I think a fight with a really top young
stud or you know, a legitimate like a super challenge,
like fighting the let's say Beater bf BIVEL winner or
something like that. The only way I see something like
that happening is there is if there is an extraordinary

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amount of money thrown at him. I'm talking like one
hundred million dollars, like something ridiculous. I think he'd do it.
But other than that, at this stage of his career,
he's going to take soft touches. And there are plenty
of guys out there that have either undefeated records or
they've won belts. But there's a little bit of smoke

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and mirrors behind that, and the promotion can find a
way an angle to promote the fight, particularly to novice,
you know, casual fans. And then there are a lot
of people that are just Canelo fans. They're gonna watch
Canelo fight no matter who he fights. He's the most
popular fighter in the sports, so like he could fight
anybody could fight me and people will watch it. So

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there's that element too. But do I expect this fight
to do north of five hundred thousand pay per views?
I think it's going to struggle to do that. I
really do. There have been a lot of pay per
views already this year. There are a lot of sports options.
By the time September rolls around, fall sports, winter sports
are going to be coming back here in America. A

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lot of you guys outside of the United States, you
don't understand how many entertainment options we have in this country.
We are truly spoiled. We have so many entertainment options.
And this is a big country. America is really like
four or five countries put together. Think of the European Union. Okay,
that's America. That's basically what we are. So there's just

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a lot going on, and it's a tough sell. Now
they're talking about the Mexico versus Puerto Rico rivalry, right,
and that's the way they're going to try to promote
this thing. My response to that is the nineteen nineties
called they want their propaganda back, guys. And I mean

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no disrespect to my Puerto Rican brothers and sisters. I
love you, guys. But for a rivalry to actually be
a rivalry, it has to be competitive, and Puerto Rico
has to win sometime. And I'm sorry this century the
two thousands. For the most part, particularly over the last

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ten to fifteen years, Mexico has whipped Puerto Rico's ass
pretty much every time. There are a few exceptions, of course,
but for the most part, Mexico has whipped Puerto Rico's ass.
So this really isn't a rivalry, you know, it's a
much bigger rivalry Mexico versus Japan. That's a rivalry in

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the twenty twenties. Okay, that actually exists right now. Mexico
verus Puerto Rico. Yeah, that's a stretch. That's a big stretch.
The last guy that was competing at that level, that
was a Hall of fame level, Puerto Rican fighter that
would get in there and not always win, but would

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fight all the top guys and at least be competitive.
That was because Koto and I was a huge fan
of him. I was a big proponent of him being
in the Hall of Fame. I felt he was worthy
of that. He fought everybody, fought competitive with everybody, and
what had some good wins on his resume. He was

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the last guy. So this whole Mexicover's Puerto Rico thing,
good luck with that. Again. It's gonna work with casual fans,
particularly casual fans who are like thirty and over, forty
and over, you know, that middle aged group in their
forties or fifties. Maybe you'll have some success with that

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marketing because they grew up with that rivalry and it'll
be in their minds. But for younger fans, they're like,
what the hell is Mexico Over's Puerto Rico? What the
hell is this? Are there any Puerto Rican champions?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
What is this? So anyway, I just I find that
to be funny. Let's see what else? To me? The
real factor of this fight, and I should mention I
got here in my notes. Canelo Elvros was stripped of
his IBF belt at one sixty eight, and so this
won't be for undisputed guys. That's gonna happen. I think

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at some point all of Canelo's belts are going to
be stripped because he's not gonna want to take on
certain fights. They're gonna you know, he could have taken
on his IBF mandatory, but he looked at that, and
he looked at Berlanga and if well, mexicover's Puerto Rico.
He's undefeated, he had that knockout streak. There's enough there
to market to casuals. Let's go this route. And that's

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what he did, and that's the decisions he's going to
be making for the rest of his career. I don't
rate Canelo Elvarez as a pound for pound fighter at
the moment, okay, And that's not me disrespecting Canelo. The
last thing I am as a Canelo hater. I've been very,
very supportive of him. I've covered so many of his
events around the country, and I had him on my

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pound for pound list in recent years, but that was
mostly because of his overall body of work in him
carrying the sport, him being the most active. Of all
the super popular superstar fighters in the twenty twenties, Canelo, ever,
has essentially carried the sport after the COVID pandemic broke

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here in the United States in North America, I should say,
because of course we're going to include Mexico in that
he carried the sport and because of his overall body
of work, his activity, the numbers, he brought all of it,
and then he had success in multiple divisions. So yes,
I rated him pound for pound, But at this stage
of his career, I kind of look at Canelo right

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now the way I started looking at Lomachenko a few
years ago. I had Lomachenko on the pound for pound
list in his prime, when he was really really doing
the thing. But if you look at Lomachenko's resume in
recent years, other than the Devin Hainey fight, it hasn't
been the top guys. So I actually I think Wamachenko
has fought better opposition than Canelo over the last couple

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of years overall, but especially over the last year or so.
But I still I kind of looked at Loma, like,
you know, he's not that dude anymore, and I took
him off my list. I took him off my list
before a lot of other people did. It's kind of
the same way I'm looking at Canelo right now. I
don't mean that disrespectfully. I'm not saying that to put

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him down, Okay, But the biggest factor in this fight,
I think is age. And I'll just make this last
note and then I'll move on. So, in terms of mileage, right,
if these were two cars, if Canelo and Berlango were
two different cars, Canelo has way more mileage. He's been

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in a couple of accidents and had to go to
the shop and get repairs, and Berlanga is pretty much
it looks like he just came off the lot, right,
So those are the two cars now. A lot of
times in boxing we talk about size being a factor
a guy moving up in weight, and sometimes you could
just move up too high in weight and you just
you know it's too much. But generally speaking, a guy

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who is way more skillful and experienced and way more
crafty that can mitigate a size difference. Look no further
than Alexander Usik and Tyson Fury for an example of that.
That was a massive size difference, right, and Usik's skill
level was so superior to Fury he was able to
mitigate that size difference. The harder thing, okay, and some

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of you may not agree with me, but I'll ask
you to look at recent boxing history, Okay, in all
of boxing history really for examples. The harder thing is
to get over an age gap when you are an
older fighter, a lot of mileage on the odometer. Again,
you've had a couple of accidents, you've been banged up

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a little bit, you've had injuries, you've had to heal up.
You've been to the top of the mountain, right, so
you kind of lose that edge a little bit when
you've been to the top of the mountain. And then
you go in there. You've lost a little speed off
your fastball, you're a little slower than you used to be,
your feet don't move quite as swiftly as they once did.

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And then you go in there against a guy who
is just entering his physical prime, who's youthful. Naivety actually
aids him in that situation because he doesn't know how
to lose. He doesn't know what it's like when you
have a lot to lose, when you're at the top,

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when you have a lot to lose. It puts a
different kind of pressure on you when you're coming in
with nothing to lose. Yeah, you could just let it rip.
And so for an older fighter to fight a younger fighter, okay,
even if the older fighter has significantly better skills and experience,
sometimes that age, that energy, that youthful explosiveness can mitigate

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that skills gap. And we have seen so many examples
of that in boxing, so many examples. I could point
to recent fights, and I can point to many fights
throughout boxing history of that being the case. So that
to me is an interesting X factor in this matchup.
Why do I mention that because I think a lot
of you out there are thinking this is going to

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be a complete just bulldozing of Canelo over Berlanga. And
what I would say is, it wouldn't surprise me if
Canelo drops Berlango a few times and stops him. Wouldn't
surprise me. Okay, it wouldn't shock me at all. But
if I were betting, my initial gut feel on this
fight is it's a distance fight and Berlanga will be

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more competitive than a lot of you think. By the way,
I said the same thing about John Ryder said the
same thing about Jime Mugia, right, And I was right.
And I'm telling you guys, that's what I see now.
Obviously I favor Canelo. I favor him big. But do
I expect a third round knockout or something. No, I don't.

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I expect a distance fight. I really really do, at
least that's my initial gut feel. Okay, one last news item.
I saved the most controversial for last real quick, let
me get to the super chat first. Another super chat
from CJ. Thank you so much. He says Turkey is
overpricing the market UFC card by Riodd season in September,

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same night as Canelo. Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot
to mention that. Thank you for bringing that up. Man
has already twenty five hundred tickets. Consolidation of promoters will
price out folks live great points.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
CJ is such a freaking smart dude. He articulates things
so much better than me. You need to come out
here and co host with me. Man. That is the
downside to what I was talking about a minute ago, right, CJ.
That like this consolidation, while it's a good thing in
a lot of different ways, it is not oversaturating. It
is overpricing the market, and that has probably been the

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biggest issue in boxing, even more than the inactivity. In fact,
the overpricing of the market has led to a lot
of the inactivity because these promoters, these promotions cannot afford
to pay fighters these rates multiple times a year. They
just can't justify it. They can't do it. So one

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thing kind of leads to the other. Right, they're definitely interconnected,
But that's an issue. And these guys are getting salaries
right now, they're getting purses. I should say that they
are not They're nowhere near as valuable as these purses
that they're getting. Right There's several guys on this card
this weekend, Andy Bruiz, Jarrell Miller, Jared Anderson, Isi Cruiz,

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David Morel, these kinds of guys. They're getting grossly overpaid
compared to what they're actually worth in the market. Even
guys in the main event, Terrence Crawford Israel Madrama. They're
getting so overpaid. When guys start getting used to that,
it's hard to get them in the ring on a
pay cut. And most of these fights, let's be honest,

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they're just not worth They're not pay per view worthy events,
and you're gonna have to lower the purse to make
it profitable for everybody. I don't know if they're gonna
be willing to do that after getting paid like this.
So there is some potential bad side here. You can
see a consolidation of the sport this decade, okay, but

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it can actually be further marginalized and become even more
niche than it already is. Also, celebrity boxing could usurp
regular professional boxing in terms of overall popularity and profitability
here in the United States. That could happen this decade.

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Wouldn't shock me at all. We're already kind of getting
moving in that direction. Okay, let's get into the review.
I think I hit all my news stuff. Yes I do,
I did. Okay, let's go back a couple of weeks
to July twentieth. I want to mention this fight in Japan,
Junto Nakatani Ko one win to defend his WBC Bandam

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weight belt for the first time. That, of course, is
his third belt in a third weight class. He's had
titles at flyweight, superfly and now bandam weight, and he
has entered pound for pound territory okay, because he's active,
he's dominant, he has had success in multiple weight classes.
I want to see Nakatani unify. That's the next thing

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I want to see with him. I want to see
him unify. I want to see him try to clean
out a division. He's not as popular as his countryman.
They owe you in a in a way is a star, right,
He's a superstar over there. He's freaking Michael Jordan over there, right.
So he can command the financially, the incentive to get

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other promotions to work with him, other fighters with other
belts to unify with him, and that's how he's been
able to go undisputed. That's part of it. Nakatani doesn't
really have that, so it's going to be more difficult
for him maybe politically, to get those kinds of fights.
But that's what I want to see next with him.
He's definitely entered that pound for pound discussion. Now, a

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lot of people already had him on the pound for
pound list. But now if you don't, you're stupid, all right.
July twenty seventh, Last Saturday, Let's go to Detroit, my hometown.
Claressa Shields Destroy is a soccer mom to win a
bunch of vacant belts at one hundred and seventy five pounds,
which is heavyweight in women's boxing. Okay, I mean no

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disrespect to Vanessa Lapage, Joannice Janice, I mean no disrespect. Okay,
I respect every fighter that gets in the However, it
was evident from the opening. It was evident from just
looking at the resumes of these two that this was
a gross, gross mismatch. I didn't even know Claressa was

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fighting last weekend until, like, I started seeing friends of
mine back in Detroit posting about it because they were
going to go It was downtown and they were going
to go check it out and hanging out downtown stuff.
So I started seeing them posting, I'm like, oh shit,
Clarisa' shields is fight. And I look up the opponent
and I'm like, wow, she's moving up in wait now
she's going to go for titles? And what the fourth
weight class? The third or fourth weight class? And I

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look up the opponent and I even see some stuff
on YouTube and I'm just like WHOA. And I tweeted.
I don't think it's called a tweet anymore. I posted
on X I don't know if it was Friday or
Saturday last week. It might have been the day of
the fight Saturday, paraphrasing here, but I basically said, this
will be a stoppage. Claressa Shield, don't stop nobody, This

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will be a stoppage. The ref will find any opportunity
to stop this fight. And what I was getting at
is this girl's gonna get hurt if they don't stop
the fight. So they gotta stop it and stop it quick.
So I told everybody, all my gambling people, I told them,
bet the stoppage here. Claressa doesn't get stoppages, but bet

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the stoppage and betted early. And what happened. Yeah, So
look this girl, Vanessa Lapel Lapage Jonice won the vacant
WBC heavyweight belt back in March with a split decision
over an even more pedestrian fighter. That title before that

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had been vacant since twenty twenty one. So the WBC
Women's heavyweight belt, which was only created I think the
early two thousands, maybe around twenty ten, somewhere around there.
It's only a decade or so old. And that was
the first one of all the other sanctioning bodies that's
been vacant for a few years before this year, and

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that's the beout that Clarissa one. She also won the
WBO belt, which had been vacant since twenty nineteen. She
won the vacant WBO belt. It was created in twenty nineteen.
They had I think one or two fights and then
it sat vacant for five years. That's about Claressa Shields one.
Why do I mention this? I should also add before

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I go further that the division one seventy five. I
believe it has about twenty women in the world, twenty
licensed professional boxers in this division on Earth. Okay, why
do I mention all this? Because as accomplished as Clarissa
Claressa's Shields is on paper and I've made this point

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five billion times, sorry to repeat myself. Comparing her to
men's boxing to any capacity is acidine. And if you've
competed in boxing at all, then you feel this even more.
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the kid I

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fought in my pro fight last September would destroy most
of claressa Shield's opposition. He destroy them. The kid I
fought and the kid I thought was a novice, right,
So that's not me trying to be disrespectful in any way,
shape or form. It's just to say that the opposition

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in women's boxing north of one forty seven, the talent
is really really weak. North of one sixty, it's pretty
much non existent. Claressa is talented. She's clearly the best
big girl in all of boxing. I don't mean big

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girl disrespectfully. I just mean big girl. And she's a
big girl. Okay, she weighs more than one hundred and
fifty pounds. She's a big girl. I don't mean big
like fat. That's not what I'm saying. She's the best
big girl in all of boxing today, there's no doubt
about that. But the talent there just is not on

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par even with other women's boxing nor south of one seven,
particularly south of one thirty five. That's where all the
talent in women's boxing is. And that makes perfect sense
because that's the size most women are. Women are smaller, right,
so that makes a lot of sense. You have more
athletes in more licensed professional boxers in those divisions, those

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women's lower divisions, so you're gonna have better talent when
there's a bigger pond, there's more fish in the pond.
There's gonna be better talent. So I mentioned all that. Listen,
if Clarissa Shields retires tomorrow, first ballot Hall of Famer,
I have a vote in the Women's Boxing Hall of Fame. Okay,

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I was part of who I helped bring women's ratings
to Ring Magazine. I was a big proponent for that.
I've been a huge supporter of women's boxing, and because
of that, I was recognized by the Hall and they
gave me pretty much a lifetime vote for Women's Boxing
Hall of Fame. Claressa gets my vote the first year

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she's on the ballot, unanimous, sugar and unanimous. However, after
every one of her fights, there are certain members of
the media that post her stats, all the belts that
she's won. Now I mentioned the two belts this weekend
that she won. Okay, they try to compare that to

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men's boxing, and they say, you know, she's got the
most belts of any boxer, regardless of gender. That is
such an asinine, irrational, inaccurate comparison. It's so irresponsible for
media members to do that, and they do it because

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it's a virtue signal to get clicks, to get favor
you go boy, yeah, you know, and so like that's
why they do it, right, But the reality is that
comparing Clarissa's accomplishments to any male boxing champion, and I'm
including interim belts, Tank Davis belts, all those kinds of belts, right,

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it's asinine. It's just asinine. Stop doing it. Let women's
boxing be women's boxing, which is going to bring me
to a news item I skipped over. We have to
hit on. Let women's boxing be women's boxing. It's a
different sport, and stop comparing it to men's boxing. It's
two different sports and there's plenty of room for both.

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And I'm a fan of women's boxing. There are certain
female fighters I'm big fans of Cnsia Estrada, Katie Taylor,
Alsia Bumgundner, I'm fans. I love watching them fight, Natasha
Jonas fan of heard there's several female fighters I enjoy watching, Okay,
but don't try to compare the two. It's stupid. Okay,

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On that note, I got to back up and go
back to news. The Olympics are going on right now,
are you watching? I'm not I haven't watched a minute
of it, including that opening ceremony that was seen as
being very controversial for a lot of people. I ain't
even watched that. I didn't even know the Olympics are happening.
I don't give a shit. Part of me being on

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the beat in boxing back in Los Angeles, you know,
I did reporting on the Olympics, and part of that
was I had to look at the International Olympic Committee.
I've talked about this in the past, and you see
how the sausage is made and how they exploit third
world countries and slave labor for most of these Olympic Games. Now,

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it's pretty disgusting. The International Olympic Committee is one of
the most corrupt organizations sporting, political, or otherwise, on Earth.
And when you see how they operate and how the
people that work in that organization live, they're more pampered
than politicians here in America. I just I haven't supported

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the Olympics in a long time. Once I learned more
about that. Most people are completely unaware of how it
all works and how it comes together and how these
stadiums get built and all this stuff. But it's pretty nasty,
So I, you know, I haven't supported the Olympics for
a while. I'll pay attention to the boxing. I'm not

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going to watch it, but I pay attention to who
medals and stuff like that because it matters. But yeah,
I just I don't watch it anyway, So I haven't
watched a minute of it. However, I have to mention this.
There are two boxers competing in the women's division. I
think ones from Thailand and ones from Algeria if I
remember correctly, I might be wrong on that, but I

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believe it's where they're from. I know, once from Asia,
once from Africa. I know that they have been previously
banned in other world competitions, specifically the last World Championships,
because they did not pass I don't know what they
call the gender test, because they according to the person

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that runs the World Boxing Championships, the person who runs
the organization that controls the World Boxing Championships. According to
that person, these two people tested. Their tests revealed that
they had an X and Y chromosome. Okay, for those
of you who have elementary level biological knowledge, you know

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that that means you're a biological male. Okay, we have
the X and the Y chromosome women don't. Now, are
there some people on Earth who are born with both
sex organs or no sex organs or you know stuff
like that. Yes, those anomalies happen, but you're talking one

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in several hundred million people with some of these anomalies.
It is extraordinarily rare. Okay to take that rarity, and
then you look at how what percentage of the population
are fighters. I'm not even just talking about boxing. I'm
talking about all martial arts. It's a fraction of a percent. Okay,

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So you're taking a fraction of a percent and a
fraction of a percent in multiplying that that number, the
possibility is so minute. Now you're talking about literally one
in several billion people. That's literally the math we're talking about. Okay,
that what might be female sex organs but have X

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Y chromo zoones. I mean, stuff like that happens. But
someone like that who's also a competitive combat athlete, Yeah,
you're talking one in billions. Okay. To justify I don't
even know if I mentioned this. These two athletes are
fighting in the Olympics. Did I mention that they were

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banned from the World Championships. They're fighting in the Olympics
over in Paris against women, And I'm seeing this being
defended by again the virtue signaling types in the American
boxing press especially, but all of the Western media, because well, hey,
there's some people just born that way. Yeah, you're talking

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one in millions. And then again the number of those
people that are competitive combat athletes, you're talking one in
several billion. Like, seriously, dude, you're talking about such an anomaly.
My thing is this, what do I always talk about
strict liability or not strict liability, uniform standard, okay, what
strict liability is part of. But in this particular instance,

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you either have a standard or you have no standard.
And if I were running the Olympics, I would say,
if you have X Y chromosoon, you're not competing against women.
I don't give a shit how you identify what you
consider yourself, what is in your underwear, I don't care.
If you genetically have an X and Y chromosome, you

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do not compete against women, period, end of. You compete
against men because genetically biologically, if you have an X
Y chromosome, that is what you are. That would be
my standard. That was the standard held at the World championships.
When the AIBA is the moral authority on an issue,

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you know you're fucking up. So I talked about the
IOC being extraordinarily corrupt and just an evil organization. I'm
going to use that word evil. AIBA isn't exactly the
moral authority of humanity, right, but they're actually the moral
authority here. They're actually getting it right. I can't believe

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I'm saying that and making the IOC look even more evil.
So I just want to make this clear. I'm a
supporter of women's boxing. I talked about my credentials with
that before a few minutes ago. I have two daughters,
I have a wife, I have a sister, I have
a mother. Okay, I am a fierce supporter of women's sports,

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but they should be for women. There's a reason why
women don't compete against men in sports because they can't.
That's not me being disrespectful. That's me just observing biology.
That's all it is. The best female athletes in the
world are never going to be able to compete with

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the best male athletes in the world. Caitlyn Clark, best
women's basketball player in the world right now, right there
are high school boys I did not mean to hit
that button. I did not mean to hit that button.
That was an excellent sorry guys, but the kind of fits, Wow,
that was really funny. Caitlyn Clark. There are high school

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boys that would destroy her in a pickup game. You
take any state in America, the high school boys championship
basketball team would slaughter, slaughter. It wouldn't be competitive, slaughter
the WNBA champion. Why because bro biology. Okay, I recognize

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all that, and I love watching Kaitlyn Clark play. I
love watching her play, most dynamic player in all of
women's basketball. But I recognize that she couldn't make a
roster in the NBA, and that's okay. Multiple things can
be true at the same time. So to bring it
all back to boxing, men, which includes gender dysmorphia, people

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that have an xy chromosome should not be competing against women,
period and of And if you say otherwise, you're the
sexist and you're the one undermining women. You're the one
undermining women's sports. If you're the guys supporting this bullshit,
it's not me. I'm the antithesis of that because I'm

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sticking up for women. You pricks out there defending this
shit are actually anti women. You pose differently on social
media your virtue signal, but in the real world you're
the jerk off. And mark my words, there will be
a ring death in the coming years. Some commission somewhere

(44:57):
is gonna let a dude fight at check and he's
gonna kill her. And all you motherfucker's out there defending
this right now because you want to be one of
the good ones, You're gonna have fucking blood on your hands. Yes,
I'm going there. All right, Enough with that, rats, let's
go back to the review of what happened last Saturday.

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Let's go to London. Derek Chesaora talking about balls. This
guy might have the biggest balls in the history boxing.
He certainly has big ones. Derek Chasaur unanimous decision went
over Joe Joyce at the O two in London. Derrek
Chasaur has kind of made that a home for him
at that arena. He's had a lot of fights there,

(45:39):
a lot of memorable fights there. I think he's only
lost one, he's one. I know he's won most of
them and he's had exciting fights there. He's dropped Joyce
late in a fight. I want to say it was
the ninth round, but don't quote me. It might have
been the eighth round. I just it was one of
the later rounds dropped Joe Joyce, and look, Joyce started

(45:59):
this fight strong. And some people didn't like the scorecards.
The judges had at ninety seven to ninety two. I
thought that was two wide, and the other two had
at ninety six ninety four. I thought those those were
okay scores. But I don't know about the seven rounds
to three for Chisaura. That's a bit wide, but you
could you could go six to four even if you

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had it five to five with the knockdown. Chasaur is
the winner, right. But Joyce throughout the fight, even in
the late rounds, landed a lot of punches and busted
up Chasaur's face and had him hurt multiple times. It
felt like Chasaura was completely out on his feet those
last couple of rounds. Yet somehow he'd back up on

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the ropes, he'd wait for his moment and he'd come
with a roundhouse right hand, and he kept landing him, dude.
And he landed some hooks. I mean, he landed some
big shots. But as much as I want to give
Derek Chasaura credit. I also want to give Joe Joyce credit.
It takes two to tangle guys, and these types of
really exciting like slug fests, particularly at heavyweight, which feels

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like a thing of the past. You just don't see
it as much anymore. Used to get a lot of
that shit in the seventies, even the eighties, you get
these slugfests at heavyweight. Don't see that as much anymore.
Guys are way more technical, right, But it takes two
to tango. And Joe Joyce he gave a lot in
this fight too. Chesura gave a lot, left a bit

(47:27):
of himself in that ring, so did Joe Joyce, So
I want to make sure that he gets proper credit
as well. And that knockdown late in the fight that
I mentioned. He was hurt. He was hurt. He got
hit with a shot he did not see coming. He
was hurt. He got up, he didn't run, he didn't hold.
He got up and came forward and kept punching. So

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both men slow clap, gentlemen. That was fantastic. Was it
the most skilled fight ever? Are these two guys super fast? No,
I'm actually faster. Than both of them, and that's saying something.
But the entertainment value is there, the drama, the humanity.

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This was a great fun heavyweight fight. Man. And this
was on regular what was at ESPN Plus, and it
was on in the afternoon, so I was able to
put this on the afternoon and watch it, well, my
daughters are playing in front of me in the living
room and watchboxing on ESPN Plus. I love that. I
just love that. It's one of the coolest things about
being a fight fan in the twenty twenties that we

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have that kind of capability. It's really really cool. But
I just wanted to give I wanted to make sure
I give both of those men credit and give them
their props. Man, that was a fun fight now real quick,
and then I'll move on where did they go from here?
Derek Chasor, this was his forty eighth pro fight. He
said he wants to do two more fights. I hope
he doesn't. He wants fifty pro fights. And I get that, dude.

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Why if I were a Chassoor's team and his family whatever,
I'd be like, dude, how are you gonna top this?
You had this super memorable fight, a fight of the
year candidate that you scored an upset win. Joe Joyce
was the betting favorite. You had to come from behind
to do it. You dropped him. You did it at

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the O two in London in front of a lot
of your fans. There they were singing your name, they
were cheering your name in the crowd. How are you
going to top that? You can't walk away now, Bro,
walk away? That is what I tell Derek Trasori. He's
got more than enough money. He's still got his faculties
about him. But he has tooken some ass whoopings in

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that ring. He took an ass whooping in this fight
even though he won. Walk Away, Bro, walk away, brother,
Joe Joyce, He's done. I hate to be that guy.
I hate to say that, but you know I talked
about Joey before because that was high on Joe Joyce

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a few years back. And you know he's a relaxed
guy in the ring. He doesn't think too much. He
lets his hands go for a big man. Yes, he
has extreme limitations. I mentioned being very very slow, but
he's a just a massive human being, super strong. I
mean he just sort of hit him with massive punches

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and he would just be like, okay, mite, brig it.
You know, he just kept coming forward. The one that
dropped him, it's because he didn't see it. The guy
has taken some ass whoopings though as well. And now
that granite's been chipped, that concrete's been chipped a little bit,
and it's going to keep that crack is going to
keep growing every fight, and he's going to get more

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and more beat up. He came to boxing late. He's
been an overachiever. He's accomplished a lot. I don't know
why they have to really strongly can that are if
they want to keep doing this, because if people on
his team are being honest, Okay, if you can't beat

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Derek Tresra at this stage of Derek Tasaa's career, if
you can't beat him now, that shows your level. He's
not going to get better from here. He's only going
to get worse. I'm talking about Joe Joyce and if
you can't beat Derek Chasaura, this ancient version of Derek Tasra. Yeah, dude,
you're nowhere near a top ten heavyweight. So they got

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to really really think about what they're going to do next. Okay,
let's preview the card this weekend. Make sure I didn't
miss any super chats. No. Okay, Saturday August third, in
Los Angeles at Beatmo Stadium previously a Bank of Cali
California Stadium on ESPN plus pay per view. It is

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Rion's season coming to America. And for those of you
just getting here on the on the show, I want
to remind you guys, the new issue of Ring Magazine
is out. It's posted on the site and I have
an article on there previewing this weekend's event in LA
detailed preview where I grade several components of each matchup

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and it's discussed its pay per view worthiness, So you
guys might enjoy that. Definitely check that out. Okay, real
quick before I preview this card. The last title fight
that was at this venue was in twenty nineteen. The

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last world title fight was Emanuel Navarati defending his junior
featherweight belt, was five years ago. Something that my boy
Steve Kimis talked about and I've talked about this too,
is that Southern California, which used to get a lot
of high level world championship fights that's kind of dried

(52:57):
up in recent years. Now I mentioned that on and
a bunch of my California dudes got really pissed off
and mentioned came back at me like, hey man, this
this guy's doing the club shows every week. This dude's
doing the amateur shows every month. I hear you. The
California Commission is the busiest commission in America. It does
more events, amateur, pro, everything in between combined than the

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next like three or four states total, like combined. So
they're doing plenty of business in Cali. But I'm asking you, guys,
how many big name championship fighters have fought in LA
in recent years? I mean, let me pull up the
pound for pound list. Let's see, let's pull up our

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pound for pound list. We share my screen again. Boom.
Alexander Usak hasn't fought in LA in a long time.
Neither has in a way. Terrence Crawford's never fought in LA.
He's fighting there for the first time this weekend. Canelo
Alvarez hasn't fought there in years. Bam Rodriguez, I don't
think he's fought there. Peter Bev bivl Bivil's fought there,

(54:05):
but not in a long time. Davis, it's been a
few years since he's fought in LA. Right, was the
last time he fought in LA? Now I'm curious. I
gotta look this up because I don't want to get
this wrong because the fact checkers, they'll come after me
Los Angeles twenty twenty one. He fought Isi Cruz there
in twenty twenty one, junto Nakitani Devin Hany. I know

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Haini's fought out there. But what I'm saying, guys is,
when I'm looking at this top ten pound for pound list,
these guys haven't fought in LA much in recent years.
That high end boxing market, championship level fights has dried
up in southern California. It's just harder to justify doing
business there because of all the constraints, the restrictions. The

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government there is so oppressive to any kind of business
that that's why thousands of companies have left California in
the twenty twenties and millions of people have left. I'm
one of them. So you just don't see this a
lot in LA. So I hope that this card's successful

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and it gets people wanting to come back and do
big fights in LA. And I know Tom Loffler does
shows out there. Thank goodness for Tom Lofler Golden Boy Promotions.
Of course, they do a lot of shows at the
casinos around Los Angeles. It might be an hour or
two out of LA. Like in the Inland Empire and stuff,
they do a lot of shows around there. There are

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club promoters. Engel Breckt does shows down in Orange County,
but these are mostly like club level shows. Okay, don't
mean that respectfully. I love club shows, but that's the
level most of those shows are. You might get an
occasional world title or highly ranked fighter or something. For
the most part, that's what you're getting. Okay. To get
a guy like Terrence Crawford, who's one of the best

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fighters in the world, to get him coming to LA,
it's a big deal. It has it happened a lot
in recent years. Okay, so I hope that LA can
turn some of this around. But I say all that,
and I'm going to go back to CJ's point. The
tickets for this are grossly overpriced. I don't know what

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the hell they were thinking. You're read season is going
to learn the hard way that the American market is very,
very different than the market over in the Middle East,
where they can charge ten grand a ticket. You got
billionaire oil shakes. They shit ten thousand dollars after breakfast.

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It's not a big deal for them. But here in America,
particularly now, with a horrible economy where the dollar is
lost over twenty percent these last two or three years,
people are really struggling. Record inflation, record high gas prices,
grocery prices are insane, interest rates for housing are insane,
the housing markets driving up. It's rough right now for people.

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I saw some of the prices, guys, some of these
tickets they're asking five thousand dollars. Nah. Bro, there's a
lot of rich people in California that can afford that. Okay,
but they've got better things to do this weekend. If
the Dodgers are playing, you know, or something, that's where
they're going. That's where the celebrity types and that's where
they're going. Right. So this is a tough sell in

(57:28):
that regard. If you had this priced right and that
maybe a different venue, maybe the sales will be better.
But I'm seeing a lot of you guys posting about, uh,
the tickets that you're buying now the week of the
fight that are really discounted. Right, they're slashing the price
and you guys are getting thirty forty percent off and

(57:48):
all that. I've talked to a couple of my ticket
broker friends. They said the same thing. So, yeah, you're
gonna have to learn the American market, and this is
gonna be a rough learning experience. That's something that Hearn
had to go through with Mattroom. They've kind of cleaned
that up and they're doing better. But you notice that
Hearn doesn't bring a ton of shows over here anymore. Right,

(58:08):
there's a reason for that. It's just a very different market. Okay,
Let's really quickly talk about these matchups. Let's see Terrence
Crawford versus Israel Madromov in the main event for Madromov's
WBA super and the vacant WBO Interim Junior at middleweight belts. Okay,

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So technically this is for I'm not even gonnaclude the interim belt.
Who gives a shit. This is for the WBA belt, okay,
And this would be a chance for Terrence Crawford to
win a belt in a fourth weight class. Now, on
the surface, in terms of experience, Crawford is light years

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beyond Madromov. In terms of quality of opposition, it's not
even in the same stratosphere. Okay, he's fought much better fighters.
Madromoff probably fought better guys than the amateurs, But in
the pros, Crawford's fought much better opposition. Right, So, on
the surface, this looks like a blowout, This looks like

(59:10):
Canelo berlinga in a lot of people's minds. But there
are some of you out there who have said that
you're getting Canelo BIVL vibes from this matchup. Interestingly enough,
Madromov helped Bivil prepare for that fight against Canelo, So
I get that. Why are some of you having those vibes? Well,

(59:34):
I think it's because Crawford hasn't fought in over a year.
Crawford is moving up in wait. Also, I think a
lot of you are starting to recognize what I've been
saying since well several years, that Errol Spence wasn't as
good as he was sold as. And maybe people got
a little too hyped up about Terrence Crawford's win over

(59:57):
Errol Spence because Spence just wasn't at the level that
he was sold as. How do I feel about this fight?
I think it's going to be a much tougher fight
for Terrence Crawford than the Aero Spence fight was much tougher.
I expect the early rounds to be very technical. I

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expect Crawford to take his time to download data. I
expect Madrimov to have some hesitation at times because he's
in there with such an experienced fighter who can CounterPunch
very well and can be a sniper in there. And
then I think things will heat up a little bit
more in the middle rounds. What's going to be interesting

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to see is how Crawford does like on the inside
in the mid range, where on paper, Madgemov should have
a strength advantage guys these Both of these fighters are
listed as the same height and Crawford has six inches
more reach. Crawford also has that wrestling background and he

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tends to do well on the inside. He tends to
be able to move guys around. Will he be able
to do that with Madromov? Because Madromov has some of
that training, as most of the Eastern European and Central
Asian fighters do. They have some of that foundation as well.
That's going to be the interesting part to me, and
that's going to determine. I think how the second half

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of the fight goes. I'm taking Terrence Crawford by decision.
I see a distance fight. I think it's going all twelve.
I see Crawford winning a decision. Andy Ruiz versus Jirell
Big Baby Miller. I don't know what to make of
this one. Andy Ruiz is another guy who has just
been chronically inactive. Both of these guys have been very

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undisciplined and had just up and down performances. Miller, of course,
is coming off a dominant loss where he got the
break speat off of by Daniel Dubbat earlier this year,
and at least he got some rounds in. Ruiz hasn't
really fought, so I don't know what to make of this.
You know, this is one of those fights where I'm
gonna be away in bro and I want to see

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the way in. I want to see what they weigh,
and that's gonna tell us a lot about what kind
of condition they're in and who's taking the fight. More seriously,
if Ruiz shows up fat, which he's done in the past,
and Miller shows up jacked, keep in mind there's no
drug testing for this fight, so Miller can do whatever

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the hell he wants, and he's shown in the past
he loves steroids. This is an interesting matchup. It's heavyweights.
I'm telling you, this fight may steal the show for
the whole card. Also, it's in Southern California. Andy Ruiz
is from Southern California. It's gonna be a lot of
Mexican Americans in the crowd and Mexicans in the crowd

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as well that make the trip up, and they're going
to be cheering for Andy Big So. Jerell is the
East Coast guy, New York guy has got the East
Coast West Coast thing happening. It's gonna be a fun atmosphere.
I'm looking forward to that one. I don't know who
to take in that fight. I really don't. Jared Anderson
versus Martin Bocolay, this is another interesting one. Jared Anderson

(01:03:19):
has had some issues out of the ring. He's had
some lackluster performances as of late. He's like failed to
really inspire in some of his recent performances, and he's
shown like some emotional and mental issues and things, you know,
going out outside the ring. He's had legal trouble all
of that Martin Bocolay has had some upset wins before.

(01:03:40):
He's a massive man, big dude, you can hit. He's
got good experience. This is a nice step up for
Jared Anderson. I'm gonna go out on a limb here
because a lot of people are picking Bacola to win,
and it wouldn't shock me. Wouldn't shock me. But I'm
going to be a proud patriotic American and be an optimist,

(01:04:01):
an optimistic patriotic American, and I'm gonna say Jared Anderson
shows us a level that he hasn't shown us yet.
He raises his game in this fight. He may have
to get off the canvas early or something, but he
raises his game. It shows us a level he hasn't
shown us yet and scores an impressive victory in this fight.

(01:04:21):
There's my positive message for the day, all right, Isa
Cruz versus Jose Valenzuela. There are a lot of you
out there that are picking Venezuela, a lot of you.
My thing is, if this goes the distance, okay, if
it goes to the cards, I think Cruz is going
to get the nod. Politically, there are certain entities that

(01:04:49):
are connected to this promotion that need Cruise to stay
relevant and to keep winning because they have plans for him. Also,
he's part of their marketing strategy with their biggest name fighter,
so politically he's definitely the guy that has the benefits
going into this fight. So I could see Cruise winning

(01:05:12):
a decision that maybe some people disagree with and it
is deemed controversial. Also, David Morrell versus radig O, jeez,
I'm not even gonna try to pronounce this collegic the
last name Collegick for a vacant w Wow, there's a
vacant WBA belt on the line. No shit, I won

(01:05:34):
seventy five, So I like morel to win that fight
big that that's really not that competitive of a matchup.
Maybe we'll get a surprise, but I don't think so. Okay, boom,
that's it. Okay, I caught up in the chats. Yes, okay,

(01:05:54):
let's jump to the phone. Let's see who we got.
We got to call her from England. I think this
is how mad. Let's see how mad is that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
My brother?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Yes, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
It's while, Yeah, it has been a while. It's man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, I just listened to the show. Nice early and
I was just listening to what you were seeing about
the can. I got the pint of view, although you
got month free subscription of the own, so I didn't
think it's that bad of a deal. But I want
to be annoyed initially the Virgil tis that excuse me

(01:06:33):
got canceled, but I still think it's not a bad overall.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Yeah, I agree, and that's something I wrote about in
my article. I wrote about, you know, the best matchup
was that Virgil Ortiz fight, and uh, I was looking
forward to that. It took some of the value off
the card. And I still think it's a good card
to your point, and worthy of the pay per view

(01:06:58):
price in this market. But where they're going to struggle
is with the tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I thought that really hurt the ticket sales and they
should have discounted the tickets. They do that, and now
from what I'm hearing, they haven't done very well at
the box office with that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
I heard they did that for the trust for the
bloss This was so I wasn't going to buy tickets
to that by it. There were people I know that
wanted to get tickets. But that's the one thing I
think the saudis need to control maybe too many people views.
Although a lot of these people reviews, I haven't really
had too much of a problem, I think apart from

(01:07:37):
the aging and the Gan New card, I know there
was a good fight that I think between Park and Zang,
but I thought that card wasn't the best. Apart from that,
I think the people views will be okey. It just
I think they maybe need to be a bit careful
because this card is going to be on I think
about two or three in the morning in the Key.

(01:07:58):
I guess that will affect people who are subscribed to
the Zone. I wasn't subscribed, although there was a bit
of a clich I canceled in January. I don't know
what happened. I had the channel the TV Channel for
free from January to July, but now the channel's gone.
I think, so in order to watch it, I have

(01:08:20):
to pay to watch it because they put it on
pay per view anyway, but I think that's the only
thing with the tickets and the amount of pay per views.
Apart from that, I think they're doing a good job.
Hopefully the card doesn't drag on. That's my one worry
is the last couple of cards you've had. I don't
know about the pretty ustic one volun Aj the World

(01:08:42):
of Parker card, and I think it was the Joshua
Naganu card. Those finished really late. Do you know what
time this card will start or anything like that, like
the timing of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I don't know the exact time, but I want to
say it's probably going to be around one o'clock PM
out there in UH and always a second yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe a lot of times the cards out in LA
in California, they'll start at like one or two UH
because they want to try to get the main event

(01:09:14):
to be around midnight here on the East Coast. I'm
not sure though I should have looked at up. I'm
not sure that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
That's not bad then, because I thought if it starts late,
then that's going to be going into like really lated
into Sunday morning. But yeah, regarding the cat, I do
think this is arguably crow toughest fight since the Victor
postal point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I also think it's not blowouts, and I favor crowfit
on points, although I won't be shocked if madroum Of
wins because I think he's a very good fighter. I
know people keep looking at his record. I think it's
just people that who probably have not seen him fight
are kind of detractors of critics of Crowf. But I

(01:10:00):
saw him flight about his third or fourth fight onwards.
I think it was against Eric Woke, and I think
before that and I saw Eric Walker and the contender,
he was a good fighter. He handled him, I thought
pretty decisively. I think he should have stopped him directly
messed that up, and then from there on in he's
one a title inside ten or eleven fights, he's some

(01:10:21):
good fighters, Like thought was a good fighter as well,
and you made the point be All brought him in
for spotting. So this is the first fighter if before
I think it's a very tough fight. It could be
a potentially upset if Crawford it doesn't like start fast
and is actually in a tough fight because SOB has

(01:10:42):
a tendency to start quite slow and sometimes it takes
him like three or four rounds to gain his groove.
Against Madame Mom, I don't know if if that was
worth against him or if they won make a difference,
because I perutally think if Crovid stops him, that's very impressive.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
I know he's stock some.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Very good fighters, but I don't know if you could
go back as far as the Pastal fight, but definitely
is between Port and Postal, and I feel Pot was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Actually in that fight.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, I prisonally still got Crowfits winning that fight, but
that was a pretty much a closest fight and until
the stuffic, so I'm looking for to that fight. I
think the heavyweight fight should be good. Although I got
to see the American heavyweights at the moment, I don't
know what you think about it. I think they need
someone to come through. Like I know, I understand people

(01:11:34):
who got hopes on, but he's different, serious issues outside
the ring. I don't know if there'll be better if
Miller wins, but I disonally think they need I don't
know what happened to Michael Lincoln. They need someone to
breathe some life into the American heavy region.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah, it's pretty bleak right now, you know, as well
as Jerry and I said, Checks a lot of boxes, big, strong,
athletic guy, has all the punches, has a lot of
good experience. He is not one of these guys that
comes from another sport. He's always been a boxer does
he have the mental emotional makeup to you know, survive

(01:12:14):
in the sport at the highest level. That's the big
question that and can he take a big punch from
a top rated heavyweight. So again, this will be a
good step up for him and we'll see, but so far, Yeah, man,
I think a lot of people are questioning him. You know,
Is he gonna be one of those guys that just
doesn't have the mental makeup? You know? I think of

(01:12:37):
like Andrew Goalotta in the nineties. Andrew Goalotta, big athletic,
explosive guy, had all the punches, all that, but mentally
it was just a freaking nut job. He was just
crazy and he just couldn't handle being on that stage.
He'd freeze up in certain fights and then in other
fights he looked amazing. Is Anderson's like, yeah, insist.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
That he was a rastics as well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I the think with Anderson, I think it's more of
a mental make up. It seems to be it's not
this sensitive to criticism. It seems like he's a bit
too emotional. I think that's probably the right word. I've
seen him that back at the top ranked comment teachers,
and I think it's the yes, comment teachers, and I

(01:13:25):
think he's even criticized his own company top rank. I
think he was top ranked. And he's also been making
statements about retiring I think at a young age, which
is never I think a good sign when you when
you're acting emotional and talking about retirement. But regarding another

(01:13:45):
I think you tooched from the Olympics. But one thing
I wanted to get your opinion on is a very
good fight.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I think top ranked.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Find him ayure Ago, I think you probably know back
to your jelal loge. He already won I think the
gold and it's going for another goal, which I I
found a bit o. Are you again the fact that
professionals could actually go into the Olympics and win go
medals and this is the guy whos already actually.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Well yeah, they made that ruling a few years back.
And what's interesting is none of the highly rated stars
in professional boxing have gone to the Olympics because there's
just no incentive for them to do so. So a
guy like Jalalov, who is highly accomplished but doesn't commercially

(01:14:36):
is not a big star in professional boxing, there's actually
more financial incentive for him at this stage of his
career to go compete in the Olympics because where he's from,
a gold medal is a big deal, right, the government
gets involved financially, and you're taken care of. There's a
lot of factors that go into it for some of

(01:14:57):
these guys from other parts of the world. So I
get why you do it. As far as should it
be a ladder that, I don't know. They let professional
basketball players in now, they've been doing that since the nineties.
I guess it's okay. It'd be one thing if we
saw like literally if Terence Crawford and you know, in
a way and those guys start going into the Olympics,

(01:15:18):
it could get interesting again. But I just don't see
that happening. I don't really think it's going to have
much of an impact. I think Jalalov will get another
gold medal and that'll help him from a branding perspective,
particularly in the part of the world that he's from.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, he's also that's a standing. I think him an
nustic down the line on I mean by down the
la maybe and the two is sick could actually quickly
fast truck him. Would be a very good fight because
he's actually a very good heavyweek and he looks like
a really skilled and affectic guy. I just don't know
if us will be wrong by the time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
He's actually.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
The top.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
That's the only things said. You fight for forty, but
Jellos had fourteen fights, and I don't know when top
rank will try and get him to fight the top guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I think I want to see I'm sorry interrupt, and
I want to see Jela and Anderson. If it is
successful this weekend, that's a fight I want to see
end of this year or at some point next year.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
I think Jalov would look him. I wouldn't mind seeing
that jel fighting the other big Russian guy, Macmudo. They
both I think big punches would be interested as well.
I wouldn't mind him just stepping up now because I
think he's got the experience and he's a girl already
a goal that probably will get another goal. So if

(01:16:45):
he could start fighting guys like that or even Jalline.
I think Wallin had a fight the other day. It
was only a round, but regarding the rest of the guy,
I think those are probably two big fights, and I'm
interested to see what happens Cruise, but I think that
the Cruise is going to be set up to fight
do you want to do? I don't know why they want

(01:17:06):
to go that route, but do you think the second
fight could be more competitive or close or do you
think you want.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
To I think I think Davis would actually do better
in that rematch. But I completely agree with your assessment
on that. I think that that's what that promotion wants
to do, and they're going to have They're politically connected
and that's going to help Cruise if this thing goes
to the cards.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Yeah, I want to last thing, what about the paida.
I'm really high on him. How do you think if
I was between him and Lomachenko would go? If Loma
comes back otherwise, I think that's probably the best fight
to make, like, unless you want to Davis, But I

(01:17:55):
just I don't think that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Will That's that that fight's not going to happen. And yeah,
this if you know Lomachenko as a belt now right,
so it'd be a title opportunity. Uh, that'd be an
interesting fight. That's when you could put in southern California
that would sell. I don't know what Lama's gonna do,
you know, I don't know if he'll fight again. I
honestly don't know if I'll fight again.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
I heard Tom Brand said he will come back next year.
Maybe he's just waiting to see if he could get
another chance of watching for Indisputed. Because I think they
won't talk about I don't think that that they will
know both do you want to do with Stevenson? But
I think maybe one of them, or maybe the pieder
will fight the other champion, Baranchick, and then I think they.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Could be a bit more hear image, like to see
who the top guys are at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I think will probably.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
End up fire.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
But I think he's kind of mentally a semi checked out.
Oh yeah, I don't really believe because he's had a
lot of amateur points.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
He's been checked out pretty much for the last three years.
He's just fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
I I still thought he did well against.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
No. Go ahead, I man, sorry, I thought I thought No.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
I thought he did well against and a lot of
people thought he won that. I think he's just been
a bit too inactive, but it was due to the
due to the war as well.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Oh my god, let you go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I'll let you get to some of the other call.
It's good to speak to you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
All right, you two, there it goes. We're gonna take guys,
We're gonna take two more calls that we're gonna wrap
it up. We've been going for almost an hour and
a half, so two more calls. Let's get to these quick. Okay, uh,
I'm gonna go up to the Bronx boogie Dawn three
four seven. You're on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
It's up, Hey, Mike, how are you good? This is
the runs from New York. First time caller. I mean,
I think I a couple of times pitched out to
you in Twitter. We went back and for a few times. Yeah,
I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big
fan of the show. Everybody hit the light button, the
like button. How come we have only two legs after

(01:20:07):
an hour and a half?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Is that it really have? You know? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
We have two legs. Well, we hopefully get much more.
So I want to go over a few things you said,
and I have a little rent on my own, so
I want to talk about the I mean, let's start
with the Chizola Joyce thing. Two years ago when Joyce
stopped Palker. He was on top of the world and

(01:20:34):
Palker was advised to retire. And look how things are now.
You know, Palker beat Jang and now he's like probably
waiting for a title shop and Joyce is about to retire.
He's been talked to the same thing we do Boir.
They said it was a quitter and everything, and now
it's fighting aj for a shot. So it's just funny

(01:20:54):
how this pot is. It's about momentum. David More that
we mentioned, it's just a waste of career. He doesn't fight.
He has the talent, but it doesn't really fight anybody.
And he doesn't fight period. It's a shame. You're waiting
for the big fights. Why won't you just fight in
your division, clean out people so you get yourself some value.

(01:21:18):
I want to talk about Penelo. We mentioned him and
in future is. You know, people put him on the
top of the of the pounds for pounds, but every
time he really stepped up and he took a fight.
I mean that he was not the it was not
you know, it was not a favorite. He lost. I

(01:21:39):
mean he lost the first time to Golofkin. I don't
think you want the second time against Golo Kins against
the wall. I thought it was the chief picking that
went wrong. I thought he he thought he's just going
to go and go and roll over the vall and
he was shocked. Now he also takes fights that he
has a built in excuse. So when he wanted a

(01:22:01):
real much with the world, Bevore said, Okay, I protected
my best, Now you go ahead protect your best. He's like, no, no, no, no,
no no, because then I would think before would be
in one sixty eight, and then he won't. You won't
have the excuse of there to be great because look,
he came to you always class and he wiped you off.
So while Canelo, I appreciate him, like you said, he

(01:22:22):
carried the spot and everything. He is being very smart
other than working hard, you know, and good for him,
but it is, but it is. I was a really
bit surprised by what you said about Lomachenko. About him,
you know, you compare him to Canelo and taking the
easy fights, and then a minute later you said that
age is the hardest thing to overcome. I mean, I mean,

(01:22:46):
I'm a longa guy. Just a disclosure. Okay, Well, he's
been fighting people bigger than him, younger than him, goes
to their side of the world. Look at comboss. You know,
he had a tough outing with the Lopid fight, but
after that the only fights top ten people. So I
don't think it's failed to put him in the Canelo.

(01:23:08):
You know, it's going to a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
I think just choosing a you make a really really
good point with that. I didn't think about it that way,
but you're absolutely right. I mean, you know he has
been fighting, you know what I mean, and he has
been fighting younger guys. So I mean if you look
at Devin Haney is basically a welterweight in so me
Lopez and those guys, so it isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Again look at and also the menal tis he forted
one voting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, you know, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I think that just because we are expecting so much
from him, so when he's just like he's not the
same guy used to be obviously, but when he's just
a little bit less or it's check and I don't
see that that way. You know, it's just one thing
all about Chizova is a lot of fun, man. I

(01:24:01):
love watching him. Is not going to be a poundful
pound guy ever or top ten by I love I
never met missus or fight, man, I want to talk
about Terrence Cowford and then I let other people do
so people have the urns coff and the poundsul pounds.
While I believe that Terford is an amazing fighter, I

(01:24:22):
think he is overrated on the pouncl Punily, let me explain.
He doesn't fight. He just does not fight. He was
waiting for the expence fight for all those you, and
he fought well over the limited care book. He thought
Sean Parker that yeah, it was a good fight, but

(01:24:43):
Sean Parker wasn't really at his best, you know, and
they said and he had choices. I mean, Virgilotis called him.
I believe terms Cofford would have beat him, but he said, no, no, no,
you're not real. He didn't take this challenge after he
beat a after it beats what it expends suddenly that

(01:25:04):
I would call him out fight him. I mean because
the reason I'm saying that because it's all over twitter.
I'm this, and that it became really obnoxious after they
spend fight tweeting everything. You know, if him and Chakule
just fight more and sweet less would be much better
in my opinion, you know. So it's right now on

(01:25:26):
number three. If Bevoll fights but the winner of them
is well about him because their best win is over
his best men. And I just don't want to hear people,
not that I care, but I'm just talking because they're
all boxing fans that if he beats Madriamov is back
on number one on pounds of pounds, because my dream

(01:25:47):
of does not bring him back pound for pound. I mean,
you have noah in way and you are us sick
that are doing amazing things. You know, there's no way.
And with the film there's no way is a poundful part.
I mean, that's all think all last thing, I agree
with you completely on the Xbox chromosome. This is completely

(01:26:09):
against women's sports. Whoever gets the letter athletes compete like that.
That's ridiculous men. And the last thing about the monopoly
in boxing. If the ship buys all the box bio
basically controls of the boxing, I think in the short
term would be great, but in the long term it
would be horrible because when somebody business doesn't have financial

(01:26:32):
it makes no sense financially to compensate so much and
pay so much, and it cuzzies a toy and eventually
we get tired of the toy, and then what and
that's basically what happened to the PBC with all aim
and when they started, they pay everybody, and then nobody paid.
Therefore nobody for That's basically what I gotta say. You know,

(01:26:53):
I appreciate you, and I'm a friend, and that's the
best podcast, and I continue watching and we're still let too.
People come on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Thank you so much, man, great call, bro, call back in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Okay, I appreciate you. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
I'm going all right, we're gonna take one more call.
We've got Fad here, so we'll see how FAD's betting
the fights this weekend, and then we're gonna wrap it up. Guys.
So there's a bunch of you on. Hold you, guys.
We'll get to you next time. All right, we're running
at an hour and a half here, we're going to
get fat and then we're gonna jump out. We're gonna

(01:27:31):
get out of here. Fad. What's up, bro? How you doing? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Yeah, Mike, got my third cup of coffee already here
talking boxing. I don't think life can get any better, right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Third cup? Holy shit, I try to limit it too.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
We're talking. So, yeah, you got a bunch of likes.
I think there's like twenty some when I when I
clicked on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
But okay, you know he just might need the refresh.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Oh absolutely, I think that's where your cousin you're paying
to come on for you. But anyway, yeah, I don't
know if you mentioned about Lomachenko being checked out, but
look if I had a hotel in my home country
and I named it the Loma Club or something of
that nature and the Russians blew it up, I think

(01:28:15):
I would check out too. I just think the human
nature of some people, especially like a and this isn't
a knock this Loman was a sensitive guy. He's actually
a god fearing gentleman like he's a good person. He
doesn't see evil in anybody like that's why he's been
taking advantage of an America. Like a guy like me,
I could smell it. I mean I could smell the

(01:28:35):
con from day one. You know they always say a fisherman,
can you know see a fisher a fisherman from across
the way, like you recognize what you are? And yeah,
I've been known to do that. So I know that
the general nature of people and manipulation. But a guy
like Lomachenko he's he's grown up respectfully from a father,
you know, that trained him just to be the best,

(01:28:57):
and then if you are the best, then the things
will happen. Well it's not like that, okay. So here
we're seeing in real lifetime a guy that just you know,
he doesn't trust the system anymore. He's been jaded. He's like,
you know, a boyfriend that had his girlfriend cheat on
him like five times, you know. And I finally realize, like, hey,

(01:29:18):
why am I sticking around with this piece of garbage?
So I think that's the real story here, and I'm
glad that Loma told Tank to go f himself with
his demand for forty million or whatever. He's like, enough,
you guys aren't going to be taking advantage of me anymore.
So CIA would want to be like Lesley Snipes, right,
So good, good on Lomachenko because he doesn't need that fight.

(01:29:40):
Tank needs that fight, yes, And I think Tank's fans
need that fight, which which makes it even sweeter. So
I don't know if you have anything to say about
that before I move on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
But I completely agree with you. If I were if
I were a Lomachenko, I would name a ridiculous price
if they can't meet it, I'd tell him to go
f themselves, because they were not interested in fighting Alma
when he was anywhere near his best, and now he's
got a belt and they could it could be a unification.
I don't think Tank has ever unified belts. So from

(01:30:11):
a marketing perspective, you know, hey, we're unifying belts, We're
going for undisputed. And then the type of fans and
I'm talking ideology here that they market to. There's an
angle to the Loma Chenko thing that they'll love, right,
and they're going to play that up pretty hard. So

(01:30:32):
there's a reason why they're going for that fight. Now
if Ivra Loma tell all of them to get lost.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Absolutely, it's been seven years. I mean Lomachenko first challenged
them in sixteen and Mayweather said, like four year running. No,
we're gonna wait them out. No, we don't need a
blah blah blah. So you know what, good, good, I'm glad,
I'm lasting. Good for Lomachenko. You can retire and be proud.
Last couple of cars mentioned, Jalalov and Musik is actually
at the Olympics, like scouting. Perhaps scouting. Yeah, so he

(01:31:03):
saw a couple of big knock a big knockout with
the guy that's fighting Jalla out next Junior Tea. If
you're gonna watch an Olympic fight, that's the only one
to watch that it's really worth it. Junior t is
from Australia. He's a tank. He's six six. He's like
a Macmadov Joe Joyce clone like mashed together jaal alas
like a Vladimir Klitschko and but Tali Klitschkow kind of

(01:31:26):
clone together, although not as dynamic. And obviously those guys
were all time greats. But he's along those lines. And
let me tell you, I've watched him fight. If you're
coming forward on him, he's gonna blast.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
You out, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
And these guys don't want to come forward because every
time they do, they get knocked down. He's a beautiful
sight to watch. I don't think he has the aggression
and the killer instinct to really become an all time great,
but he's just happy. You know, if they're going to
wait outside, he's an out box him. If they come in,
they're gonna get crushed. But this guy that he's fighting,
he's gonna come forward, so it'll be interesting to see

(01:31:59):
what happens. But he's still tend to one to win gold.
I got him at three to one previous to the Olympics,
so I'm kind of happy with that. But you mentioned
what would happen with Jahhausen Anderson. It would it would
look like Vladimir Klitchkow versus Calvin Brock when and I
was at the fight at the Massive Square Garden, and yeah,

(01:32:20):
the theme was Calvin Brock was like the great American
hope nobody remembers that, but he was an Olympian and
he took you know, he beat a couple guys, Tomil
mcclein and Vladimir Klitschkow just absolutely annihilated him. He literally
knocked him, knocked him out and walked over him, and

(01:32:42):
it was a definitive fight. Yeah, and then HBO was
behind vlad and all of a sudden that was it,
Like they pulled the plug on him. But I think
Jared Anderson sort of in that realm, he's been hyped up.
He's a good boxer, per se. I don't think he's
a good fighter. I think once it's he's in there
with Bacoli this weekend, and I have three upset picks.

(01:33:04):
I think Bacoley is probably the least of my favorite,
but he's plus one fifty, so actually he's actually more
likely to win than the other two. But I think
Bacoli will get out boxed, you know, the first six
or seven rounds, and all of a sudden he'll just
start hammering him. I think, because everyone knows this and
talks about it, that Anderson pulls straight back. He doesn't

(01:33:25):
know how to fight a taller fighter because he's been
fed a steady list of six foot guys, so it's
his natural instinct to pull back. And when he gets
pulled back, like he got exposed versus the guy who
walks the earth like a king or whatever his name was,
I forget. But he blasted him with the right and
then Anderson really didn't have any anything left, like he

(01:33:46):
was completely shell shocked. He turned them up Macho Camacho.
After Rosario blasted him, would have left and as the
Square Garden in eighty six, the first HBO fight ever.
Watched it all you remember it, but it reminded me
of that he had no heart act that. So I
do like Bacoley to pull the upset, but I'll be
you know, I'll be surprised, you know, if Anderson actually

(01:34:07):
steps up. Because this guy cried to Roy Jones Junior
because the pressure was too much. I just think, what
the pressure is dialed up, he's gonna fold. So I
like Bacoley if by knockout the other two fights. This
one I love because Andy Ruiz. Everyone's thinking he's winning,
no one's talking about it. I love Jerl Miller in
this fight. I think Jarl Miller wins his pretty handily

(01:34:29):
if he gets the decision. You know, farre and Square,
I don't think they have a reason to rob him
because I think Ruiz has done at this point. He's
a plus two forty underdog. Okay, he's two and a
half to one. You know, you're getting money on him.
His style, he's active. Who knows he might be geared
up this sight. He looks pretty ripped. Actually, he looks

(01:34:50):
pretty good. And God only knows what Ruiz looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Yeah Ruiz.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
I mean, I think the real Andy Ruiz was a
mix between the guy that went to Sally Arabia two
eighty and then struggled with a fifty year old or
teeth you know, uh, that was a give and take fight.
He should have blown our teeth out. Actually, Ortez has
no chin, so I think he's right for the the upset.

(01:35:16):
I I just don't think there's a sense of urgency there.
I think Millard wants it more, believe it or not.
And after this weekend, Mike, you mentioned about the American heavyweights.
I could see Jerald Miller being the number one rank
USA heavyweight. I really could if it plays out the
way I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
So I like I like Millard, it really is. Could
you imagine that? Is that a.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Wow? Oh yeah, It's like being the tallest guy in
a room full of midget There really is. So it's
just that simple. It's it sucks. You know, this is
the culture. And you saw the American and the super
heavyweight division in the Olympics. He came out jab and
he didn't want to engage and he lost. He was
a favorite. He was the number one ranked.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Guy and the way, man, it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
He got number one seed because jo you know, he
didn't have the credential this year or a couple of
years in the amateurs, so there's like a weird ranking system.
So he was number one. He got knocked out by
the lowest seed. Because all he did was jab he
didn't engage. He thought he'd just win a decision be
handed to him, and he lost. And that's the mentality.
It's an entitlement thing in America, it really is. I

(01:36:32):
think we're all guilty of it to a certain level.
To a certain degree, I think we all are. But
I just think that's the case. I think people are hungrier.
And then that brings me to the last fight of
the weekend I'm really looking forward to, and I compare it.
I love history, because I really do compare this to
Canelo versus Bivel. Everybody was saying when Canelo was knocking
out Saunders and all those guys, he could go up

(01:36:54):
to heavyweight, beat Yu sick. We want to see him
fight YOUU sick. Oh that's not that Besides doesn't matter better.
Oh skill marriage, skill pays the bills. But guess what
Madromov got Bill already for Canelo by mimicking Canelo and sparring.
Bilia went out and he shelled Canelo. Okay, so here

(01:37:14):
we are again. Everyone's on Crawford's jock because he beat
up a shot arrow. Spence completely shot out Spence, but
he didn't knock him out. He stopped them standing. I
think that says a lot that maybe Crawford doesn't have
that one punch knock out. He realized that a lot
of people having having the fight stopped against a guy

(01:37:36):
like Madromov. And I've watched his entire career and I
could see why they they went with this fight. This
is why they're very overconfident because Madromov seemed to get
hit a lot against the guy in Tulsa. This one
guy is like his sixth fight, and the guy came
to fight, give him Madromov problems. He's hitting him. Madromov

(01:37:57):
laid him out, knocked him out in like the seventh round.
But the ref said it was a slip. It was
a clean punch. He's not to know what a left hook.
I mean, you couldn't get me clearer on the replay
and in real time because he lunged forward blasting him
with the left He was like a Mike Tyson left hook.
He was out. He got up and he was like shaky, wildly,
couldn't even stand. But they said, oh no, he because
he lunged in and pushed him over. But no, that

(01:38:20):
wasn't the case. On replay well anyway. I think Madromov
is very underrated. I think people have the wrong idea
about this guy. He fights to the level of his competition,
just like Bibble, that's a stablemate. Jaal Alov is a
stablemate as well. They fight to the level of the competition.
If the heat gets turned up, they turn it up back.
They fry at the people with their own heat. That's
what it looks like to me. And I think Madromov

(01:38:42):
is going to step it up another notch. And I
think people are just gonna be like, whoa what are
we watching here? Because I think they overrate Crawford a lot.
Crawford's not going to knock out Madromov. He has too
good of a chance. He's too strong. The guy's a tank,
all right. They do say he swallows up to one
set twenty five, but so does Crawford. Crawford's a big

(01:39:02):
guy naturally, he's just been a wakefully so they're about
the same size per se. I think Crawford has more
musculatur from lifting weights and exercises. I think Madromov has
the more natural muscle mass, that low center of gravity,
and he's a good wrestler and what people don't know

(01:39:23):
about Crawford. He's a wrestler and a lot of his
offense comes in the clinch when he's moving his arms
around and he and he opens you up for a
shot you don't see coming or he was not ready for.
He's very good at angling. But Madromov is better at
that tactic. He's stronger and he could position himself. And
I don't think Crawford is going to have that opening.
I think I think Madromov is going to turn into

(01:39:45):
Terrence Crawford and Crawford Crawford, That's what I think. I
think there. I think Madromov is not just a basic guy.
He's not you know what they what Mayweather said about Galofkin.
You know he said, oh, Bill Gluffkin has no special effect.
But yet he denied Golupkin's request to fin him at
fifty four. If that were true, then Maywether would have

(01:40:06):
fought him, because we all know he's a cherry picker
later in his career early in his career. Is a
real guy. But that being said, I think they sort
to cherry pick Madramov, expecting him to get hit in
the sharp shot. I don't I don't think that's gonna happen.
I think they're gonna they're gonna find out what happened
to can is gonna happen to them, And all the
people saying he could be Canelo, we'll never hear that again.

(01:40:27):
I don't think. I think that talk is going to
be done, even if Crawford does win by some mere
like if he wins by decision and the judges see
it or say, uh, you know, Bilbil won about ten
or eleven rounds against Canelo, and he only won by
two points on every card. If it's slipped like that,
and maybe he gets a draw or Crawford wins by

(01:40:48):
two points seven rounds or whatever, I think that talk
is done anyway. I think people would realize that he
has no chance at SPA. I do think he's going
to get handled by Madromov on the inside. And another
thing about fifty four is that you use ten ounce
gloves and hand size is very important. I found that

(01:41:09):
out myself. You're going from eight ounce gloves to ten
ounce gloves. I don't know the fifth size of Crawford,
but I don't think it's the I don't think it's
the same fifth size as Madromov. And if you put
a little hand in a bigger glove, it just doesn't
do the same damage. I don't care how much snappy
for torque you have behind it, that hand size does

(01:41:31):
matter in a bigger glove. That's why when you're sparring,
you're using like fourteen ounce gloves, sixteen ounce gloves, you know,
to try to lessen the blow. But I think this
is all wrong for Crawford. But if he wins, he
gets all the credit because this is the best opponent
he's ever fixed in his entire career, and they're calling
him pound for Pound number one. I never liked it.

(01:41:53):
I thought he had the softest resume out of all
the pound for pound nominees. People want to say, well,
gloves and fought the list seeless guys. He fought better
competition than Crawford. Let's be honest. Some of those guys
were in their prime at least. Crawford hasn't fought anyone
in his prime at the top except for Postal and

(01:42:14):
he just Caviascas. And the Calviascas fight was probably the
peak Crawford has been and he got dropped. He had
some flaws in that fight that are going to be exploited,
especially early. So I like Madromof to win the fight.
I don't know if he's going to get the decision.
He's going to have to drop Crawford at least once,

(01:42:37):
definitely twice to get a decision or draw. But betting
the fight at plus four fifty, if you're getting drop
protection on that, I think that's that's a chance we're taking.
And if you like Crawford, the only way I see
that is decision, and he's plus two hundred on decision.

(01:42:57):
But there is one caveat to that referee is because
I know in America they don't like Madromov's style, and
I could see a disqualification coming out of the left field,
like I really, I really can. I don't if Crawford
complains with a referee because he's getting wrestled, or he's

(01:43:17):
getting handled, or if he's getting lunged in on, I
could see the referees like GQ and Madramov. Because it's
in LA the politics are behind Crawford. They want him
to win this fight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
I just told you, whatever happens, it's not the judges
screwing it up or a referee screwing it up. I
just want to see. Yeah, good solid fights, but man,
I gotta wrap it up fast.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Okay, But one last thing. The good thing is reat season.
They haven't had much controversy, so I'm holding out hope
that you know, the Turk. He's different than these guys.
It's not like the Hainy fiasco in Vegas and whatnot,
so and then the Andrea Ward fiascos in Vegas. So
let's hold out hope. But I think made I win
this fight.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
All right, good stuff though.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
That's gonna wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
MIKEL appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
All right, We have a nice day, Thank you, all right, real.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Quick, guys, to that's point. I'm sharing my screen here.
I just pulled it up on box right. The top
rated American heavyweights. I mean the names here, Jared Anderson,
Michael Hunter, Jermeale Miller, Richard Torresday, I got Wilder Wilder
on there, but he's done. Jermaine Franklin, Steven Shaw, one

(01:44:32):
of my sparring partners, fought Stephen Shaw. Jonathan we treat. Yeah,
one of my sparring partners fought him too. Uh, Cassius Cheney.
I mean I'm looking at these names, guys. Wow, Wow,
it's bleak. If that is right, and Anderson loses this weekend
and Miller wins, Miller is the top American heavyweight out

(01:44:54):
there right now.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
That's crazy. Didn't think i'd be saying something like that,
you know, at some point this year. All right, guys,
enjoy the rest of your week enjoy the fights this weekend.
We'll do it again as soon as I possibly can.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Have promise pay the fee I seize at the fights.

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