Cocktails and News Election hangover and hard truths

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh, welcome to the Nicki Meduro Show. I am Nicki Maduro.
She is Kim McAllister, and this is the Hangover Hangover Show.
After the election, I hit that button. Yeah, let's just
all kind of hug raise our glass cocktails and news,
and yeah, please support the show because we all need

(00:39):
to support each other after that election. I'm gonna we're
gonna talk about how we feel. I want to, actually, Kim,
can you put up the link to the show. If
anybody wants to commiserate and actually come on and hear
their voice on the show, You're welcome to do that,
because you know it's our show. I know this was
really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I would say, you don't have to use video if
you don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
To, you don't have to. You don't have to put
your face up on there. You can just use your
voice if you want to. But if you want to
come on and kind of talk how you're feeling, please do.
I'll say this, I was extremely naive. I don't think
I really feel, Kim, that I was so freaking optimistic

(01:24):
and naive that I thought that I really ignored I
ignored the misogyny and sexism in this country because I
was so inspired.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know what I mean, ye difference, I'll call you
this way. It felt like it felt like there was
a massive momentum at the beginning of her you know,
one hundred se Yeah, and then in the last week
or so, you felt this uptick, the surge in the
feeling of positivity, optimism, polls coming out and and people saying, oh,

(02:01):
she's gonna win the popular vote, like there was a
real shot at this.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Really yeah, I was really so lopsided. It's like, yeah,
I was so And we're going to get into this
a little bit about what democrats can do. That's why
the kind of the name of the show is like
now what right, Like now, what what do we do?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
What are we going to do? How are we going
to move forward? Because this is the thing he won
the popular vote? I mean, this is actually remember when
Obama be John McCain and it was like, hands down,
like he blew him out of the water. It wasn't
just even it was so many Americans voted for Obama,

(02:45):
so many Americans voted for Donald Trump. Oh, thank you
Pamela for the five dollars donation. Nikki your face during
the Mark Thompson Jhow revealed everything. Thanks for having the
conversation tonight. Thank you so much, and thank you for
the donation. Look, we need to have kind of this
come to Jesus or whatever moment the Democratic Party does, Okay,

(03:07):
and we're going to talk about that tonight because I
really do think, like I said on the Mark Thompson Show,
we are not living in the same America. We don't.
We are not living in an America where we understand
what we need. What Republicans and I'm talking about Trump supporters,

(03:32):
I'm talking about Republicans. I'm talking about Republicans, Democrats, independents.
What we're reading, what we're talking about, what we care about,
and how we talk about the issues. Because I really
thought that we were talking about the issues, and we're not.
We are talking in a way and I'm talking about Democrats,
we're talking in a way that is not resonating with

(03:55):
people at all. I think because we lost badly, I
mean badly in this election and it's it's hard.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I was reading I was reading something that Wes wrote.
He's a member of this community online chatter type of
but he was talking about He went issue by issue
and talked about how other people feel about the issues
versus people in the in the you know, liberal He
called it a bubble, which I agree here in the

(04:31):
Bay Area we are in a bubble. We get it.
And so perhaps we are way out of touch with
how the rest of the world feels or the rest
of the country feels, I would argue though, and so
his What I was going to say is that his
writings were really interesting to me when he talked about how,
you know, trans people feel about how bussing and flying

(04:52):
the immigrants to other countries that haven't had to deal
with that, and all of a sudden in New York,
their school they had to have their students work from
home do school from home because the immigrants were in
the gym. Right, that these problems now opened the eyes
of people in other states. And he kind of goes
on and on about things that we wouldn't necessarily think about, right,

(05:12):
and how maybe those things could have affected people in
other states. And I appreciated it. I thought it was
an eye opener. But I still feel like she came
to the table with plans and he came with a
concept of a plan. I still feel like we put
the price as a country of milk and eggs over
the price of freedom, democracy, liberty, whatever you want to

(05:37):
call it. So you know, as I've read a couple
of things that people say, you know, enjoy your cheap
eggs while you know your daughter can't get the healthcare
she needs. Like what's really important? What are we really prioritizing?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And I hear what you're saying, but I feel like
it's how we're delivering this message. Do you understand it's
how we're saying it. I think that people care about
you know, obviously the constitution, right, and people care about democracy,
do they?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But I think if they cared about the Constitution, they
wouldn't have voted for the guy that said we should
terminate it so that I could have more presidential power.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
But when they're voting again, Kim, Like, I understand what
you're saying, but when you're talking about an election, I
think what Democrats need to stop doing. And I know
this is going to be really harsh to say and
goes against right our hearts and our minds. We need

(06:39):
to stop I hesitate, we need to stop freaking inspiring people, right,
and we need to start talking about the table issues, right.
We need to stop talking about and I hate to
call out my man Obama, the hope and the change
and inspire people. We need to talk about the you know,

(07:03):
the things that they're they're concerned about, right Like, we
need to listen to what they're talking about when people
are complaining. Let's just talk about what you were talking
about the border. When they're complaining about something and we're like, well,
that's racist or you know, these people need our help
and democracy and give us you're tired and your weak,
and we start talking about platitudes and start coming at

(07:26):
them with what's written on you know, the statue of liberty.
They feel ignored. Yeah, and that's the truth. They're like,
stop talking to me about the Statue of liberty and
start listening to what I'm talking about because my kid
doesn't have this, and you're ignoring me. And that's what
I think Democrats need to come to terms with is

(07:47):
that there is a significant, obviously portions of America who
are done with this inspirational bullshit message from Democrats. And
even though we're inspired and we believe in it, I
do believe in it, and I don't think it's wrong,
and I am inspired by our messaging. When it comes
to elections and getting people to the polls and checking

(08:09):
the boxes. We're failing. We're failing at getting them. Now,
there's another truth that we need to come to terms with,
and that's the fact that Republicans win at the fear mongering, right,
Like we try to get people inspired to the polls.

(08:32):
It's like the it's like news, right, it's like the
good news channel that always fails.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
They always tell us if it bleeds, it leads, right.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
There's a reason for that.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, right. I hope people would rise above it though,
And I just I feel yeah, liberal second messaging says
s J. Lola and someone else talked about that, you
know how they're getting their Folks that are conservative are
getting their information from a whole different place than other people.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Absolutely, And I feel like.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Every time I've had to got it, I've kind of
entered into a conversation with someone who's a Maga trumper.
They come at me with these these facts in quotes
that they truly believe that I know for certain or wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
And so give me an example, Give me an example.
I mean, just can you think of one right now?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
There's a million, there's there's so many, you know where
I may think I may have a figure on I
don't know how many people died of COVID and their
figure is low. I mean, you're just like random facts
and things. You can't even have the conversation with someone
because our information is so vastly different, right, can't talk

(09:45):
to you, meet you halfway, come to an understanding, understand
what you're thinking. If what you're thinking is based on
inaccurate information, and so how do we make sure the
information is accurate? Because if we all not have the
same information, but had access and we're paying attention to
truth and facts, and we weren't being lied to or

(10:08):
spoon fed the you know the political bent that you know,
we only go to one site. We only go because
it makes us feel better, you know, regardless of whether
they had to pay a massive fine for lying or not.
You know, sues our soul to hear these things if
we can't even approach it from we have the same

(10:32):
information at our fingertips, even though we may interpret that
information differently and come away with a different opinion. Yes,
that's the way it used to be. Now we have
vastly different information. And of course they would think, you
know that what they think because that's what they believe.
And I don't know how you get around that.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, and John makes a good point. Right wing media,
fox and radio stations throughout America dominates over our side.
Now that is true. You go Middle America, it is
all right wing radio. That's all you hear. John says,
they are fed at twenty four to seven, like transgender
was a huge issue for them, but we don't even
see it as a problem. And that's true. Now let's

(11:10):
take the transgender issue, okay, because Donald Trump, he's already
come out and said it. He's going to take away
this whole transgender protections under Title nine or whatever it is.
He's going to stop all that, right, He's going to
take that out of schools. Now here's the school also,
like the school letting transgenders participate in sports and the

(11:30):
bathrooms and everything like that. Now, look, let's just let's
have the conversation real quickly about transgenders and sports.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
We never addressed it. We never addressed the concerns that
and I will say valid concerns that people had.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
We never did, though, because when I look at it,
I look at us. Maybe there's four or five instances
where this is a problem, okay, And in the scheme
of things and in prioritizing things, right, I'm sorry not
to be concerned about, you know, whether or not there's
fairness and sports and whether or not people are being

(12:06):
discriminated against for being transgender. I just don't see it
in the priority of issues as something that rises to
the level of we need a national discussion about it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
But there is a national discussion about it.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
True, you ignore that.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
We are ignoring it because we're calling it, Oh my god,
you hate transgender people. See this is a problem. But
but again, Kim, this is again what democrats are doing.
I'm just trying to call out what we're doing wrong.
We're taking an issue. We're saying, you guys hate transgender people.
It shouldn't be an issue, and then we ignore it,
and we ignore it and ignore it, and then Republicans say, look,

(12:46):
they're ignoring our problem. They still see it as a problem.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And it isn't a problem because it's only a problem
because Fox News tells you it's a problem. You see
what I mean. So we're giving air to that by
even considering it and raising it on the priority list.
We're giving air to the fact that they think this
is a problem.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Think it is or isn't. It is one though, if
so many people think that it is, kim it is,
whether we like it or not, whether we agree or not.
What is true is a significant number of Americans watch
Fox News, listen to right wing radio, and vote. So
if we don't have a conversation about it with a

(13:30):
large swath of people and try to reach a compromise
versus ignore it because we're like, ah, you're being misled
by right wing radio, so we're gonna ignore it. I
would rather go to the table and have a conversation, right, Okay,
let's talk it out. Transgender people exist, Let's talk about it,
maybe having a conversation about it, right and bring people

(13:54):
to the table instead of ignoring it because we think
that it's not an issue.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's the same thing as these two. Give you two,
and thank you to Chris, who's who brings up they're
eating the dogs, They're eating the cats. And Sandy who
says people are getting abortions in the ninth month of pregnancy. Obviously, No,
they are not. Obviously that is not happening unless you
know there's a major, major medical problem, right, And probably

(14:19):
both individuals involved are in medical hazardous conditions. But this
is the thing, it's a lie. That is a lie.
People don't do that unless there's a major catastrophe. No,
they weren't eating the dogs and cats. And even Vance
admitted saying, well, it doesn't matter if it's a problem

(14:39):
because we want to highlight this issue. So then you're
and I agree with you. Maybe we have to give
air to it. But responding to lies seems like a
waste of time when there are real issues to talk about,
like the fact that Ukraine has got to be in
its last throws right now, I mean, like the last

(15:00):
couple of months, that we're going to see a Ukraine, right.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean Biden says he's going to give the last
of his money, but then, yeah, I don't. Trump said
he's going to end the war on day one. Well
he was supposed to already end it, right, He said
he was going to end it the day he got
after he got elected. But who knows. And thank you
John so much for the ten dollars, superistick or we
really do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I just but the lot of true things. These are
true things. So why are we prioritizing lies instead of
true things, and but how the country is believing the lies.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
But I'm not but transgenders talking about transgender athletes in
sports is not a lie. There are transgender athletes in sports.
That's a different issue than they're eating the dogs and
the cats. You see what I'm saying, Like that is
an issue. And I'm not trying to fall into the
trap of saying that there's something wrong with transgender athletes. Sure,
I'm using that as an example of an issue that

(15:53):
was really it is really big for Republican voters that
Democrats didn't deal with that. We pushed side and said, no,
it's wrong. You just hate transgender people, and we never
really dealt with it, and we call people names and
we didn't deal with it. And that's what I'm saying
is our problem. We like to call people names and
then we ignore them, and that's our problem. We like

(16:17):
to call people names. They like to call people names too.
I'm not saying they don't. Okay, this is not told us.
They like to call us names too. But I'm just
trying to identify where we're going wrong because there are
so many people that are being brainwashed, and I do
think that they are being brainwashed that these problems are
bigger than they are, right, that it's not as big
of a problem, like the like you're talking about the

(16:39):
late term abortions. Right, that these problems aren't as big.
But if we don't have the conversation, if we if
we just slough it off, oh, you're being allied to,
you're being brainwashed, And we don't educate people and we
don't bring them to the table, then then they're just
not gonna listen to us anymore.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
We need our own. Here's the problem, though. I don't
want lies. I don't want lies just because they're liberal lies.
I want the truth. I think a lot of conservatives
want the truth too, they just aren't getting it right.
So I don't want to fill a liberal fox. I don't.

(17:19):
I just want I just want truth in the media,
and I think for the most part, we have And
I know people like I hate the media, I know
that we try really hard. Let me tell you a
newsroom rule. In most newsrooms, before you can put a
story on the air, you have to have at least
three sources. In some newsrooms it's five sources, so you

(17:39):
can back up and confirm a story that you aren't
reporting on yourself. Right, you haven't gone out, you haven't
gotten the information yourself, but you see other stories coming in.
Whatever the story may be, you don't just believe it
from one outlet. You don't believe it from two outlets,
three or more. That's the standard. What's the standard for Fox?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
There is a one one? Right, there isn't one. I'm
gonna play you a little bit. This is a democratic
strategist also talking about Oh go ahead, just look at.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
That, John Watson, your boy is going to school and
coming home a girl.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well that's not happening. No, that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
But people believe it.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
And John, I mean you can John, you actually can't
actually believe that. Right.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh he's got it in quotes. He's saying that's what
they're telling people, that's what.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And again, I can't even give kids vasilene for their
lips if they're trucked.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Believe, you have to sign a form that you agree
and consent to have your kid carry some screen in
their back.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Exactly like I can't give kids anything. And we're short
on pencils. You think we're given out surgery. I don't think.
Come on now, Uh, here's a democratic strategist. Okay to
also given some hard truths to some Democrats.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now I'm going to speak some hard truths to my
friends and the Democratic Party. This is not Joe Biden's fault.
It's not Kama Harris's fault, it's not Barack Obama's fault.
Is the fall of the Democratic Party and not knowing
how to communicate effectively to voters. We are not the
Party of common sense, which is what the message that
voter is sent to us. For a number of reasons,

(19:13):
for a number of reasons, we don't know how to
speak to voters when we address Latina and language loose
and language has meaning. When we address Latino voters, is
Latin X, for instance, because that's the politically correct.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Thing to do.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
It makes them think that we don't even live on
the same planet as they do. When we are too
afraid to say that, Hey, college kids, if you're trashing
a campus at Columbia University because you're nunhappy about some
sort of policy and you're taking over a university and
you're trashing it and preventing other students from learning that
that is unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
But we're so worried about.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Alienating one or another cohort in our coalition, that we
don't know what to say when normal people look at
that and say, wait a second. I send my kids
to college so they can learn, not so that they
can burn buildings and trash lawns, right, and so on
and so forth. When we put pronouns after na Ames
and say she hers opposed to saying, you know what,
if I call you by the wrong pronoun, call me out,

(20:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I won't do it again.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But stop with the virtue signaling and just speak to
people like they're normal. There's nothing I'm going to say
to Sir Michael that I'm not going to say to
you that I'm not going to say to somebody else.
I speak the same language to everybody. But that's not
what Democrats do. We constantly try to parse out different
ways of speaking, different cohorts, because our focus groups are
polling shows that so and so appeals to such and such.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
That's not how normal people think.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's not common sense, and we need to start being
the party of common sense again. Joe Biden is not
responsible for that. Neither is Kamala Harris. It is a
problem that Democrats have had for years. I've been banging
the drum on this for I don't know how probably
ten years, if not longer, on this. We need to
get back to being the party of common sense, that
people look at us and say, we understand you, we

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appreciate what you say because you speak our language. And
until we do that, we should stop blaming other people
for own mistakes.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
What do you think is it really the problem of
the Democrats for failing to communicate or is it the
fault of voters who turn the blind eye to anything
anyone else says and only get their information from one source.
Because I heard Kamala Harris as an effective communicator. In broadcasting,
they tell you that you have to say the same

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thing over and over again, at least what six or
seven times, in order for people to remember it and
hear it all right over and over again. She said
the same thing her at her rallies. She had the
same taglines, right, I'm lift us up? Right, the real
leader lifts people up. But you could call out all
of her taglines you have Pete Budajet. Are you saying

(21:48):
he's not an effective communicator? He was all over Fox News?
And so is it that people aren't listening because they
want to believe what they want to believe, or is
it because we really aren't effective communicators.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I think what she was saying, though, is that we
are trying in our and I think it's it's it's
it's admirable. I think in our effort to be so inclusive,
right she mentioned Latin X and pronouns and things like this,
in our effort to be inclusive, we have excluded people

(22:21):
who just don't give a shit and for whatever way,
but like LATINX, and that has excluded We're going to
talk about the Latin vote coming up, but Latin people
are like, no, that's not how One, that's not how
our language works, right, they don't they don't give a
crap about that. And two, you know, there is this

(22:42):
misogynistic stereotype that does exist among many in the Latin culture.
They don't want this X at the end. They don't
care about that.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
So you've already excluded people in your effort to be inclusive.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
And it's true. And I do agree with what she's
said in the latter half of her statement about being
too woke right about people who just and Wes said
this earlier in his comments that I was reading about
how people barely understand what it means to be gay,
and they really don't understand all the variations of being

(23:18):
you know, non gendered, trans whatever. I don't get it.
They don't understand it, and are we cramming that down
people's throats? Yes? Is the you know, the pronouns at
the end of the emails an eye roller. Sometimes I
understand that we're doing it to be inclusive, and I
always thought, well, if it makes someone feel better, than
what is it? Tha? But I, oh sorry. I understand

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though that there's not a a there's a large segment
of the population that doesn't think that. But I go
back to what you said at the beginning, which is
you can't that we have somehow the left has a
hard time communicating, and I just think it's because people
don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thanky, thanks for the ten dollar donation. She says, you
guys are so close to the idea that maybe transgenders
in women's sports is inherently unfair. I'm not close to
the idea. I've said many. I've said for many I
think there should be another category. I've been saying that
for a long time, and I've changed my opinion about that.
I'm started off by saying, oh, just let them play,
it's not that big of a deal. And I have

(24:18):
changed my opinion about that over the years because people
have come out and said, no, it's unfair, and I
have listened to that. So no, I do believe that
there should be a separate category because so many people
have been coming out and saying I am transgender because
they've been feeling safe coming out. It's like, Okay, it
might be a small category. Some people don't mind competing

(24:41):
in a category that has male, female, and transgender athletes
in it. So let's create this until there's enough people
just simply for transgender category. I'm fine with that, but
I do think that people have valid concerns about having
biological women against transgender female, especially those that have gone

(25:03):
through puberty.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's not fair. It's not fair. And how big of
an issue, I mean, how many people really are affected
by it? And as far as you and I in
our opinion on it, I feel like asked an answered.
Two years ago, my niece competed in the National Youth
Throwing Championship in Florida, and I think I mentioned at
the time they had a third category. It was called

(25:26):
open and you could compete in it if you're a
boy or a girl, or whatever you felt like you were,
or whatever you identified as. They didn't care. You could
have a girl and a boy on a two boat.
You could have two boys, you could whatever. It didn't matter,
two trans people totally. So it's such an easy fix
that why are we making it into this thing that

(25:47):
needs some massive national debate when we already have the
solution and we can move forward.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, obviously we haven't come up with a solution that
appeases everybody, right, and so that's the issue. That's the issue,
and I feel like people just haven't come to the table.
And again, I do think that looking at how the
vote came out is shocking. It need to wake us

(26:13):
up now the Latino vote, especially after they eat the dogs,
eat the cats, especially after the mass deportation threat, I
mean getting rid of the birthright citizenship, Okay, I mean
all of these things that Trump has said he did
extremely well with Latinos. There is this Hispanic radio host

(26:37):
in Pennsylvania talking to MSNBC, and he was talking about
this idea of Latino specifically Latino men, and why they
voted for Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Here we go Latino vote in general, it was the
Latino man. It was the Latino man who decided that
they were going to vote for Donald Trump. And I
will dare to say that is the Latino man who
wouldn't want a woman president. I mean, you and I
had this discussion before, and I have audios from the

(27:13):
Latino man who were calling my show telling me that
they wouldn't vote for her just because she was a woman.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
And that is.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Unfortunately, but that's part of the Latino culture, right with
the Latino the man is the one the provider and
we're the boss. And we still, unfortunately have a lot
of Latinos with that mentality where the woman belongs.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
In the kitchen.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
That is a reality of the Latino a male chauveness culture.
And I think that's what exactly what happened, Victor.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
How do you get them back, Chris, if you're part
of the Democratic pro democracy coalition.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean again, they were willing to vote for Joe Biden.
They were just not willing to vote for Kamala Harris.
So I will say, listen, the Democratic already needs to
make sure that they regroup, that they look for somewhat
a young, vibrant that can make the case, just like
Joe Biden did. But unfortunately, as far as this Latino man's,

(28:12):
I don't think at any time in the future they
will vote for a female president's. That's sad to say.
I'm a Latino man. I supported Kamala Harris. But I
can tell you I heard it. I brought that to
your attention. I brought you audios of man calling my
show and telling me, oh, no, no, no, she won't

(28:34):
be respected. Oh no, no, no, no, there's no way she
can handle the job. And I will argue with them
on the air, and I will bring examples of all
the female powerful leaders in the world, and they seem
not to want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. Obviously, I see yeah,
obviously Mexico has a female president. I just I do.
I hear that, and I see that. I also think
that Kamala Harris not only was a woman, she was
also a woman of color. And when you have a
woman of color going up against a strong white man

(29:14):
like Donald Trump, you know, I don't know. Look, I
wasn't against I'm obviously a Democrat. You guys all know
that and I said, you know, I was never against
talking about Republican policies. The reason why I would never
vote for Donald Trump is I think he just qualified himself.

(29:36):
That was my problem. I've always had the problem with
the man. Chris. Is what I'm hearing from the CNN
piece and from discussion is blame DEI. And that is
one of those things where the right makes the center
move right and the left look looks way left when
it's just slightly left. Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
You know what was surprising to me though, Kim. You

(30:00):
know those memes where you see where it's like, you know,
don't ask me to forgive you when the way that
you've been talking about, you know, the name calling and
all of the don't ask me to forgive. You've seen
those memes, Right, People that are Trump supporters post those

(30:21):
like we live in a society in which they think
that we act like that to them, that Trump's supporters
think that for the past four years they have been
extending the olive branch to us. Okay, that they have
been the ones that have been trying right, that they've
been trying to compromise and and and be the bigger person.

(30:46):
That is a world that we are living in where
we think that they have been absolutely batshit crazy, right
yelling and screaming maga bullshit all the time, and they
think we've been doing the same thing to them. And
I'm almost emotional saying that, because that is how messed

(31:06):
up this country is. Is that that is the reality,
That is how crazy the miss and disinformation is right now.
Is that they actually and I'm not saying all of them,
I think that they are actually people that know damn well,
they're terrible, awful, crazy ass people, okay, but there are

(31:28):
people that actually believe that they've been extending an olive
branch to liberals this whole time. The whole time that
they've been like, oh my god, I've been trying to
reach these these these liberal democrats and they haven't been listening.
They've been calling us racist and we haven't been racist.
They've been calling us fascists and we're not fascists. And
we've been looking at them being like, but you are

(31:50):
acting racist, you are acting how can you support you
know what I mean? Like, that's how disconnected we are.
And it blows my mind. It's it, and I I
have a hard time because I don't know how we
get back together. I feel like we have to be

(32:11):
the bigger people, right. I feel like, once again we
have to be the adults in the room, and I don't.
There's part of me that wants to be a child.
I don't want to be the adult in the room again. Like,
why do I have to be the adult in the
room for another four freaking years? And what danger is
it gonna be? Who is he going to point? So
he appointed his chief of staff. The history has been made. Right,

(32:33):
a woman has been appointed as his chief of staff.
Susie Wiles, I think of pronouncing her name right, has
been appointed chief of staff. The first time a woman
has been appointed chief of staff. She apparently isn't at
this point, doesn't seem to be. She ran his twenty

(32:54):
sixteen campaign. Apparently it helped make him great again the
twenty She's part of that the first time around. She's
not a big, look at me type of person. She
didn't even take the microphone when he was talking about her.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
She looked. She looked mortified. At his victory speech, she
looked he called her up on stage and she just
kind of it in the background.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
She didn't want attention. I don't know why I like that,
but I do. I don't know why that.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, Oh no, those are the people that are almost
more dangerous, right because they can just go along quietly, unassuming,
doing all the bad things I worry.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, you know here's okay. So this is what I
was hinting to Kim. I wanted to talk about, what
is your mentality moving forward? So I did not cry,
By the way, I have not shed a tear since
I knew you realized.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
You get angry, right soth and you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
This is my mentality. And I've summed it up into
one word, and the one word is fine, okay, fine,
And it's and it's not like I'm not going to
fight for my rights. Okay, It's not like I'm not
going to still be you know, the me that's that's

(34:16):
gonna still fight for everything that I believe in, right, Okay,
this is what I mean by fine. Fine, you're telling me.
This is what I say to Trump supporter. It's like
my father and everybody else. Fine, Fine, you're telling me.
This is what you're telling me. The economy is going
to be better. I'm going to get cheaper health care.
Right fine, Fine, I'm gonna get cheaper health care. Uh,

(34:36):
the board is going to be protected. The economy is
not going to creter when you do mass deportations. That's
not going to look like in tournament camps. Right fine, Fine,
this is what you're telling me. That's what I'm telling
Trump supporters. Fine, you show me that, show me that,
show me that you're not racist and misogynistic. Fine, show

(34:59):
me those things. Fine, that's what I mean by fine,
because I don't believe it. But fine, you wanted another
four years with this guy? Fine, Fine, show me because
that's what they keep promising.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh, No, trust Trump. He's not a racist, he's not misogynistic.
He's gonna protect women whether we like it or not. Fine, Fine, Fine,
I have no other choice. There's no other choice but
to accept, obviously, the result of the election, because I'm
not a child, and I'm not gonna hang a Trump
flag and storm at the Capitol because I'm sorry that

(35:39):
did happen. Okay, Fine, Fine, I don't believe it until
I see it. Fine. You think I'm gonna my four
oh one k and my bank account is going to
explode with money? Right? Fine? My water is gonna be cleaner,
my air is gonna be cleaner. Right, Fine, Gas, it's

(36:01):
gonna be one dollar again, and it's not going to
destroy the environment. Fine, Fine, show me, show me how
you're gonna do all that. Fine, Fine, that's what I say.
I don't believe it's going to happen, but fine, that's
my attitude.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Chris sets the over under on Susie Wilds at eight months.
What happened to the last guy, Like they all end
up facing charges in prison time.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I don't know, John Kelly, we know what happened to him.
I mean, I just it's it's this weird. I will
say this, so you know, my dad's a big old trumper.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
So the next I didn't even tell you did cry?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
So okay, so you know, tell me all this I need.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
This is really interesting, Kim So I did not shed
his tear. I did not, Okay, So I I did
Mark show. I felt it, obviously, everybody you started feeling
kind of early like it was not looking early on. Yeah,
and I just went to bed. I was like, screw this,
I'm going to bed. I felt it. I did say
my prayers, but I knew it was a long shot.

(37:09):
I did have weird dreams though, and I woke up.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And I love I.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I there was a moment where, like Schroedener's cat or whatever,
I lived in this world where I didn't know yet,
Like I lived in the world where I was like
maybe maybe, And then like my husband like was in
the back, came out of the bathroom and I said
good morning, and he said good morning. It's better for

(37:34):
your dad though, and I was like oh, and I
was like, I was like, is it official? And he
said yeah. And I was like, and he gave me
the electoral count or whatever, and I was like, okay,
I was fine. And then I woke up and I
got ready for work, and then I went to my
daughter's room, right okay, and uh, and she was the

(37:54):
one that was crying. She was the one. Now remember
this was eight years ago, right, So my daughter was
the one that was watching me bawling my eyes out.
In twenty sixteen and not really caught I when Donald
Trump was elected president the first time in twenty sixteen,

(38:15):
I had driven home from Kgo and I was bawling
when I came into the door. And I remember I
walked into my daughter's room, and I was giving her
a good night kiss, and I was seeing her Bob
Marley's Everything's going to be all right because three Little Birds,
because that's what I sang to her every night. And
I was crying and she's like, what's wrong, Mama, And

(38:35):
I'm like, no, I just sang her this song and
she always remembers that. And I was just so upset.
And then I got in this huge fight with my
dad the next morning because he's big old Trumper and
he was rubbing it in my face. Right, That's what happened.
It was terrible, no good, terrible. So the next morning,
I wake up this morning after this election, and my
daughter's the one that's upset, and so I'm consoling her

(38:58):
and I'm like, it's okay. And I was actually really proud.
I was like, even though I felt for her because
I understood, but I was like, I'm so proud of
you for one caring. And she you know why she
was crying because her, my gay niece, who lives in Kentucky,
is scared of living in Kentucky right because she doesn't

(39:19):
want to live in Kentucky under Donald Trump. She's so
scared of what's going to happen to her, and you know,
all of that and I and I was like, well,
you know, she doesn't have to live in Kentucky forever
and those sorts of things. But I was really really
proud and and she's like and she's asked begging me
to take you know, she's like, take me to school
because she didn't want my dad to fake her because

(39:40):
my dad takes her and my dad has grown. I
will say this other my daughter, she is there, she
is and uh. And so I texted my dad, who
has grown over the past several years. And I texted
and I'm like, look, don't say anything. I said, congratulations,
you must be happy. I was like, do me a favor.
Though my daughter takes after me. She's really upset. Don't

(40:02):
mention anything about the freaking election. And he didn't. And
he didn't. So there was a lot of growth that
has happened over the last eight years. He did not
mention anything. But I was proud of you. I was
very proud of you. Marley Joe Till Julia really had
was affected as well. Okay, okay, you can stop dancing

(40:24):
on camera.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
She walked out. As I'm watching the election results late
in the evening on election night, and I said, it
doesn't look good, and she just kind of walked out,
and she stood there with this look on her face,
and I said, are you okay? And she went, whatever,
I don't care. She went back to bed. And the
next day you knew then that you know, Trump had
was declared the winner and it was a done deal.

(40:47):
And I were at the kitchen table and I said,
you need to do your chemistry homework, and she goes,
what's the point? What's the point? She first date took
my rights, my female rights away from me, and then
next thing, they're going to take the right to go
to school away. So why should I even bother? Mom?
Why should I even bother? They don't care about women
in this country. She's thinking it's gonna be like the Taliban, right, no,

(41:09):
because she's they just got done with the unit on Malala,
so she's thinking like, this is where we're headed. And
I than she's thinking, what's the point of doing homework?
How do you explain to a fifteen year old girl
who's just realizing for the first time that she really
is a second class citizen and that there are a
lot of people that don't really care about her or

(41:31):
her health or how she does in this world. How
do you explain that one that.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You just keep fighting, That's how you explain it to her.
The women of her generations that are still alive today. Yeah,
fought for her rights and we'll continue to. And thank
you Nick for the twenty five dollars donation. You ladies
making very good points tonight, you too should do a
Ted talk. Thank you, Nick, We really appreciate it. And

(41:57):
also Chris By for the five dollars supersticker. We love you.
Thank you so much for supporting the show. We cannot
do it without you, guys. Chris also says my daughter
will turn eighteen to twenty twenty twenty eight, so glad
she'll be able to vote for her own interest. And
that's what I told my daughter too, Chris is like,
you get a vote in the next presidential election. That's

(42:18):
where I put my hope. And you know what was
really funny thought. I doesn't know this because I look
at her Instagram, because I have access.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
To her instagram of courst you do, that's smart.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Private message, Donald Trump. She's like, I seriously hate you.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Careful She's gonna end up on the bad girl list
headed to.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
It was so funny. I was like, like, that's the
thing that's going to turn him around, you know what
I mean. But I'm so proud. I had like a
little warm in my heart. I was like, you know what,
that's a good message. But yeah, I just like, I
seriously hate you. Oh.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I was really proud of Julia because she's part of
this broadcast journalism TV class in high school and she
went out on election day and did this non partisan
interview of election people that were overseeing the election, the
inspectors and poll workers and how to vote and how

(43:12):
you should register if you're sixteen so that they you
sent get all your paperwork. It was a really good report.
I was so impressed by it. And I could tell
at that point that she started caring when she went
to the polls and started interviewing election inspectors, that she
cared about the process. And I guess that's the takeaway here,
is that there is hope for the future, that girls

(43:33):
just realized what happened to them, and perhaps seeing a
woman run and seeing a woman lose for you know,
this variety of reasons, among them misogyny in this country
and racism in this country. I think those I would
add those two things into the list, they won't. Maybe
they'll rise above that and they'll realize that maybe Kamala

(43:54):
Harris lost and maybe Hillary Clinton lost, but that those
were the women that opened the door for them to win.
So here's hoping.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I mean, I think that there's always going to be
this demographic of Trump supporters that are just trolls, right,
that we need to really like, you know, those Nick
went to Skuy's like he posted on X like your
body My Choice forever.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Seeing this all over the place your body my choice
and some people and then I saw this one clerk
read actually posted this this group and where women were saying,
not if I don't you know, let you have access
to it, and some men are saying, we don't need
your permission. What happened to us?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Now, that's not representative of all men, and that's what
we need to keep it, like, we need to keep
this in perspective. Like I saw something on like a
Texas college campus where like it said something like homosexuality
as a sin and women are property. Those are trolls, okay,
and we cannot allow that to be representative of not

(45:02):
only all Republicans, but obviously America, right, which we didn't
call that out.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You're making my earlier point, which is giving air to
their eating the dogs and cats, just sitting air to
like trans issues when really in the scheme of things,
there's you know, the priority list is that's not on
the high on the list for many of us. It's
like you have these trolls that are sticking these issues
in just to make you, you know, make people stew

(45:27):
about it. That's not what's really concerning I don't. It's
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, and this is the other thing. And as all
these Republicans are saying that they've extended in all of
brands to liberals, what I would challenge my Republican friends
is that when you see something like women are property
or something like Nick Point is saying your body my choice,
forever call that out, because if you don't, then it

(45:57):
seems like you're okay with it and saying, oh, it's
just a joke. Well not at a time like this,
not And they're like, oh, you guys are snowflakes. Understand
that if you're trying to be a uniter like everyone.
Joe Rogan came out and was saying Donald Trump should
really try to unite this country. If you really believe that,

(46:18):
if Donald Trump really wants to be, which I don't
know if he really truly could ever be, but if
you really believe that, if Republicans really do believe that
they've extended the olive branch, then you need to call
out this kind of stuff, because that's what I'm talking about,
because otherwise trolls, the dogs eating all that kind of

(46:39):
crap that will represent you. So then no, don't look
at us when we call you these names, because you
don't call out those sorts of things. And Marilyn, thank
you so much for the five dollars supersticker.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Marilyn.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I covered that other comment. Thank you so much, Marilyn.
I just I don't know. I just I want people
to call out the be us and we need to
stop elevating comments that are hateful. Let's stop, just stop.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Sandy writes. I still keep hoping it's a bad dream
and I'll wake up any minute now. For the last
two days, I was still throwing down prayers. As a
matter of fact, I had at one point bargained with
God on election night that I would not drink wine
or eat chocolate for a year. To me, that was
a big thing. I'm like, okay, no wine, no chocolate
for a year, just just give her a shot. Didn't happen,

(47:30):
You can tell deals off.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I mean, I think the other thing that I'm scared
about is the appointments, right, Like obviously the judicial the judges,
the Supreme Court, but also like who is he going
to put in this cabinet? So obviously the chief of staff,
that's the Wiles woman is the chief of staff, but
you know RFK Junior.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Right, like Health and Human Services and the FDA are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Like and then getting rid of the Department of Education.
The Department of Education has only been around since what
the late seventies, Okay, so it's not like it's been
set in stone since the formation of the country. But
I will say this, Okay, I understand this whole idea
of like reducing government, right that there's redundancies and things
like that. My fear is Donald Trump's concepts of plans

(48:21):
like the repeal and replace. You can take something away
as large as let's say, this Department of Education with
nothing to replace it, Well, why have children? Education is
still happening?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Elon Musk says, you know, it's gonna hurt for a while,
and I would I would argue this that if you
take away the Department of Education, which I don't agree with,
doing most education most of the you know, making sure
that all eleventh graders learn the same things in eleventh
grade across the state, setting the standards all of these

(48:59):
things and at a state level. So taking away the
Department of Education, it's not my biggest one. I'm more
worried about the the EPA, clean water, clean air, no
rules to anyone, the FDA. What are you buying when
you go to the grocery store? I guess it's anybody's guests.
Who do we trust? Who do there's no standards for

(49:21):
anyone exactly I mean. And again now I'm prioritizing the
list of what could go wrong right right.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Like grow your own friggin food. Then I guess, like
I don't know. Thank you Jim for the five dollars donation. Also,
by the way, so nice, thank you, Jim.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Can you imagine if Dave's right though, going from Pete
buddhaj Edge for Transportation Secretary to hul Kogan.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
It's come on, that's another. Fine, It's like, okay, fine,
see what happened. Like It's not as if I want
things to go to hell, But it's not like these
people that voted for Trump aren't also living in this world, right,
So fine, you guys have to live in this world too.
It's you have to live with the consequences of your

(50:03):
vote as well. We're all on this f and vote together. Fine,
your social security, your investments, your gas prices, your water,
your air, your food. Yep, so okay, fine, show me,
show me.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
But Nikki Trump says this is going to be the
Golden Age.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Fine, Fine, Fine, that's why I keep saying it. I
have said fine so many effing times over the past
two days. Fine, And you know what, Kim, I'll say this.
I'm gonna be like a little bill O'Reilly here.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Fine.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
If if things are so effing good, yeah, I'll admit it.
How about that you have it. It's fricking if it's
November seventh, twenty twenty four. If it's so effing good
and I am rich sitting here, and my food is
so deliciously clean, and the air is great, and my
healthcare is fabulous, if everything is so effing good, the

(51:00):
economy hasn't crumbled because we've masked, deported every illegal immigrant
that there ever was, and we don't have internment camps
everywhere and like and and nobody's lost their fundamental rights,
and the world isn't on fire. Yep, fine, I'll admit
I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's a day Thursday, November seventh of twenty twenty eight,
will reconvene to see if four years our life was
any better under Trump.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Going to hey, happily admit that I am wrong.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
You know, wouldn't that be nice?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Though?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
If we were wrong, I loved any wrong. I don't
want to change good health.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I want to be wrong. I want our country to
be better. I don't want a national abortion ban. I
want things to be okay for all of them. But
you know what I saw today, actually last night, an
article on Rolling Stone talking about how they tried to
distance themselves, the Republicans, the Conservatives, the Trumpians from Project
twenty twenty five. Oh, that's not us. We don't know

(51:59):
about that. Trump says, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Okay, let's put the people in charge of charge.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Day after the election, they are lauding Project twenty twenty
five and saying and now we can put this plan
into motion. Lie lie liars.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
The framers of it, the framers of it. Oh yeah,
of course, of course, of course, So fine, fine, because
again everything that they want is still going to impact
all Americans. Again, we're all on the same boat. We're

(52:36):
all the same freaking boat.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I love this from the lady Beatrice. Trump is like
the Empire, the Emperor in Star Wars. Just when you
think you're free of him, he comes.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Back exactly exactly. It's so, it's nuts. It's somebody else
said that this is what cat and has felt like
on the Hunger Games when you had to go back out.
Are you kidding me? Laugh?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It's crazy. What I got an email from our friend
Noe in absolute despair. She can't eat, she can't sleep,
She's worried about her kids being drafted and sent to
some weird war. She's worried about her daughter and her
daughter's rights and what happens. Is worried about all of

(53:20):
these things to the point where she's she's driving herself
in insane with worry. Yeah, at some point, and I
don't advocate sticking your head in the sand completely not
knowing what's going on, but at some point we have
to take care of our mental health. We can't. The
world is going to be set on fire and we're
all going to go down with the ship. At some point.

(53:40):
We have to be smart about it. We have to prepare,
but we also have to go. Okay, Listen, there have
been times in American history where we've gone through some
s right. We had a civil war, we had some
bad stuff, We had slavery. I mean, we had horrifying
things happen in this country and residence we disagreed with,

(54:01):
and elections that were you know, made in the candidates
that were elected in back room deals. This is early history,
and so we can get through this too. I think
we can get through this too. We're gonna we're gonna
carry this load together and we're gonna get through this.
So don't if you're just so disappointed and so distraught,

(54:23):
don't let that weigh you down. You can't. We can't
afford to be weighed down by that right.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Now, exactly. And Chris has some great news. I mean,
McCaffrey's back on Sunday. I mean, are you jinxing it?
Because I know that he didn't have any injuries during practice.
I don't. It hasn't been decided. It's a game day decision. Chris,
let's not jinx it my friend. Okay, anyways, we just.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Have to throw I love everyone's adopting your fine, fine,
let's see it.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
But again, that's why I'm saying, fine, fine, That's what
I'm telling all Trump supporters. Fine, and I say, I
go all I launded list. I'm like, fine, fine, fine, Fine.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
We're gonna get this again. Sandy says. The thing I
hated most about the previous Trump administration was the constant
feeling of chaos. Remember that, waking up every day wondering
what he was gonna tweet? Like what do I have
to report today? Right, we're gonna have that again. We're
gonna have that again. Mad says, maybe the comet finally comes.

(55:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I just I just I've just that's it. Fine, It's
like the dog and the fire. Right, Fine, everything's fine. No,
it's not. Everything's fine, but fine, show me, show me,
show me already.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Apparently Trump's economic policies are having uh, causing some cutbacks
at some companies. Ronda Wright's Pennsylvania manufacturing employees just found
out no bonuses due to terriffs tariff's two employees.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Was that true? Though? I saw it as a meme?
Was there a news story? I saw it as a meme.
I was like, what was it actually true? I don't know, like,
no Christmas bonuses because we have to buy all this
stuff before the year end. Look, let's just wait again,
let's just see because again the tariffs haven't started yet. Again,
he could be totally full of craft because remember, build

(56:06):
a wall in Mexico pays for it. We pay for it, right,
we paid for it, right? Lock her up? Never locked
her up? Mass deportations, eh, right, Like I I hope
it's not mastyportations because that is going to look insane
if it actually happened. So let's see if Trump talks
out of his big behind and what he actually does.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I'm not seeing that. I'm not seeing that story.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
It was a mean that's why. That's why I'm like, yeah, no,
it was on Facebook. It was like this dark black thing.
It's like, oh this, So I don't know it's actually true,
but I have seen that a lot on Facebook that
some Pennsylvania guy said everyone down. I was like, no
Christmas bonuses because I had to buy a bunch of
stuff before the tariffs h So I don't know if
it's actually true, but I could see it being true.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Possibly in Project twenty twenty five includes a national abortion band,
so I have to take them at their word, right
when they tell you who they are, believe them. So
I'm believing that this is a possibility, despite the fact
that we live in California. So what do we do
to prepare well? I feel like I am going to

(57:11):
purchase several boxes of Plan B okay, which is an
emergency contraceptive. Right, you need a prescription for mif of pristone,
which is the abortion pill, So I'm going to load
up on some Plan B and I will tell my girls,
my daughter and her friends that and their mothers that

(57:33):
if anyone has an emergency and we can't get a
hold and we're at a point where you know, we're
now in home reproductive care, that I have a stash.
These things don't expire for the next four years, and
we both have fifteen year old girls, so if whatever
happens in six months, you can't get a hold of
these things, I'll at least have a stash. Little things

(57:55):
like that make me feel better and maybe it's dumb,
but at least I feel like I'm somehow preparing for
the you know, squirreling away my toilet paper for the
for the for the pandemic kind of thing, right.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Right, Well, Governor Newsom says he's trying to trump proof
California with some state laws. So he says he's given
the Attorney General's office more funding the fight federal challenges.
Let's see, uh so or so are other states as well.
I just feel like, you know, a lot of people

(58:26):
are putting the attention on Newsome because they think that
he's the next. Look, it's not going to be a
California person that's going to be the next Democratic president
of the United States. It's not. So get Newsom out
of your freaking head. It ain't gonna happen, especially not
next We're not going to go from Kamala fricking Harris
to Newsom. That is not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
They just told the country, just told us they don't
like California Liberals.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
No, and news news Newsom can throw his like expertise
and support and be like one of those talking people,
but Newsom is not not going to be the person
that's going to be the next Democratic candidate for president. Please,
that would be the worst choice ever. Yeah, it would

(59:15):
be a huge mistake. Chris absolutely, Again, we need somebody
that speaks Middle America. Navin Newsom does not speak Middle America.
Gavin Newsom does not look Middle America. He does not
speak Middle America at all. Sandy says, I also really
worry that he will repeal Obamacare. I never had health

(59:36):
insurance before Obamacare. If he takes that away from me,
I don't know what I'll do. I'm getting old, I
need health care. I don't think he will. I think,
you know what I think he's gonna do. This is
what I think he's gonna do. I think he's just
going to take Obama's name off of it and slap
his own on it. That's what I really think he's
gonna do. I think he's gonna like literally like take

(59:56):
it all away and then put the same thing back
in with his name on it. He doesn't have a plan.
He is zero plans.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
A concept.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
This is a concept of a plan. It's gonna look
just like obama Kay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Plan B is and it's like a cocktail of contraceptives.
It's like taking a bunch of of birth control pills
at once, and it prevents a zygote from attaching to
the uterus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It's stop for pregnancy from happening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Right, So, if you had unprotected sex one day, you
knew that you did, whether it was you know, by
your own doing, or whether you were attacked or whatever
happened to you within the next however many hours, I
don't know how many hours. It's twenty four or forty
eight if you take this plan B bill. And there's
also I'm told by a sex educator that I know

(01:00:45):
for Kaiser, she said, there's also a recipe of birth
control pills. She doesn't she was going to look into
it for me of what you could do with that.
But yeah, so it will keep it will prevent the
pregnancy or the zygot from implanting, and thereby keep you
from getting pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Says moving to the right doesn't help our side. Can
I get Can I show you guys that picture? This picture.
I don't know how I feel about it. Okay, this
is California, all right. This is what happened between twenty
twenty and twenty sixteen, or twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. Okay, Now,

(01:01:23):
I understand that the coast has all the people, like
a lot of the people, right, there's a lot of
land in between.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, this is what happened in Francisco, is and Morin.
Look how dark blue that is, like navy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Okay, but I'm going to tell you that there's a lot.
There's ten counties, ten that flipped from blue to red.
Ten counties that went from blue to red.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And the crazy thing about that, if you look at
the map, is those counties are in the Central Valley,
mostly the central part of the state, which is huge
in agriculture. So they know they need immigrants to do
the manual labor and they're screwed without them. So why
would they vote against themselves in this regard? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Now, let me ask you a question, how would you
feel if this map didn't look blue and didn't look red,
but look purple.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I'm proud of us for embracing things that make sense.
If it were more purple, if it were more I mean,
it's already a bummer to me that so much of
it turned bread. But I would be a little sad,
a little disillusioned, and maybe frightened for the future of California.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind purple. I feel like
purple means compromise, right, I feel like purple means every
time I see purple. This is what I always feel like.
And I know this is totally naive. I feel like
purple means fiscally responsible, socially liberal. That's what I And
it's totally naive to think that, I know, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Always the Republican that left us with a worse debt.
And it's the Republican that economists say, oh, and this
thing is worse for the economy for the nation. So
I don't know if you're right on that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It's not no, and it's naive to think that because honestly,
Democrats always leave a better economy. They do historically, if
you look at it, Democratic president's always leave a better
economy to Republican presidents.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
That f it up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
They do, and it always pisses me off. Thank you
James so much for the five dollars donation. We love
the superstickers, and thank you guys so much for the support.
And then Republicans take credit for it, like Donald Trump,
I started off of my presidency with the best economy.
It was not your economy. It wasn't your economy. And
then he's like, oh, my tax cuts. The son said

(01:03:44):
it during Biden's presidency because you wrote it into the
friggin thing that way, you knew what you were doing.
You had it sonset just in case that you didn't
win the reelection, and you knew that it was gonna
sunset during Biden's presidency, Like, we know what you're doing,
we know what you're doing. Fine, yes, exactly, I should
put that on a shirt. Maybe I'll make it for Christmas.

(01:04:06):
I'm telling you, like, it's maybe that's the new coffee cup,
that's the new Yeah, that's fine, fine, fine, Like it's
just that's what you have to tell your Republican friends.
And as Donald Trump's presidency progresses, like it works, because fine,
if it were honestly, if things get better, fine, right,

(01:04:28):
fine fine, And if it doesn't, what the hell right,
where is it? Where is all the promises that he made?
Because the truth of the matter is Donald Trump can't
be president again and he's old anyways, Like Marl, my
daughter was so scared that he was going to be
president again. I Marley, he's old.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
And then vance let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
This is the thing. This is the thing. Okay, so
I'm so glad he brought this up. Everyone's saying, oh
my god, Vance, Oh my god, Vance. Here's the thing.
There was an article about like Donald Trump and then
this other and how much of a distance in votes
there was. Here's the thing. There's Donald Trump and then

(01:05:10):
there's other Republicans. And I don't know what it is
about Donald Trump, but then there's other Republicans. He just
has something that other Republicans want but do not have.
And I am telling you jd. Vance is not charismatic.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Oh not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
So while he might now this is the worry is
obviously the people that they set up in the cabinets
and all that that might like obviously take control the
rallying of people and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I don't think J.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
D Vance has it. Uh So it could fall apart,
you know what I mean. But yeah, I understand the worry.
I understand the worry.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Look at him like the second coming of Donald Trump.
Trump supported him and lifted him up, so will rally
around him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
He is an I'm more scared of Elon Musk than
doesn't even know he is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
The good thing about Elon Musk is. He wasn't born here.
He's an immigrant, so he Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
And social media is a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
One would argue that he bought the presidency. Okay, so
he has He might have control of America, but he
can't sit in that chair.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
It doesn't matter. He has the ear of the president.
He was in that picture. He was in the family picture,
and Millennia wasn't. Did you see that there was a
family photo after the after the election? Oh my god,
I'm gonna find it was not in the picture, and
Elon Musk was. I can't even believe it. Okay, I'm

(01:06:46):
gonna show you this picture. Elon Musk is in the picture,
and Milania is not even freaking there. It's very small.
You can't see it. Uh oh no, this isn't the one. Yeah,
Elon must so Elon us is holding the baby right
on the right. See the woman on the far right.
You can't This is because Elon Musk is. Okay, So

(01:07:08):
if you look at the far right, there's a woman
who looks like her. She's wearing a sugar top. The
guy in the tie holding the kid is Elon Musk.
Melani is not in this picture at all he is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Not, probably like I'm out of here. She didn't look
happy on stage either. You know, they kissed each other
on the cheeks and she was like the look on
her face is like, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
It, she does not want to Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
She's born with it. Maybe it's jd Vance.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Jadie Vance is gross. Yeah, I don't know, man. I mean,
Levanka was there, which sucks, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
You know what it is about JD Vance that freaks
me out. He doesn't know who he is. He's changed
his name several times, and not for really valid reasons.
He's changed his opinions. First he says Trump's a Nazi.
Now he likes Trump. He it feels to me like
he becomes and morphs into whatever will be most successful
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
He's like he's like the wind, you know what I mean,
like whatever, And he's not charismatic. I don't I don't
find Trump charismatic, but people, do you see what I'm saying,
Like he's he has that that super I'm gonna say
superstar because he's the television all that kind of crap.
So and he's been around for a long time. So

(01:08:26):
jad mean' is not Donald Trump. There's not many politicians
that there's no politicians that are Donald Trump. You know,
I can't believe bober got reelected. Empty g got reelected.
Like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Eric says, Biden better put plastic on the White House sofas. Yeah,
and that's what they're doing, though not plastic. But they're
trying to plan ahead for Trump as well, like what
can we do to make things that we've done more permanent?
What can we do to safeguard some of these things?

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Don't do anything thing that safeguards anything. We are such,
we are such rule followers. Biden is not going to
do anything. No, nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
We don't do that. That's that's not our mo. You
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I saw this meme yesterday where and it's funny. I
was telling Mark about it off the air and he said,
this is the most asinine thing that I have ever
seen or heard. And here's what it said. Joe needs
to resign, sending Kamala to the presidency for the last
two months, making her the forty seventh president. Then while

(01:09:38):
she's there, she can sign executive orders, codify Ruby Wade,
which you have to do with Congress right, set term
limits for the Supreme Court. I don't know. She could
do that either. And she would be able to do
all of this legally, since the Supreme Court ruled that
a sitting president is above the law. She could conceivably
order recounts and find more votes without fear of criminality.

(01:10:00):
She could change the rules for an election so anyone
with a convicted felony on their record wouldn't ever be
able to run or be sworn in for any office
in the land. She could give Trump a taste of
his own medicine without any repercussions whatsoever. Democrats don't play
that way. We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I don't do that. That's why we concede races. That's
why we do peaceful transfers of you know, power, That's
why we you know, we do these things for the
good of the country. Yes, yeah, that's why. And everyone
was like, oh my god, you know why there were
so many votes for Biden's because they cheated, that's the evidence. No,
it's not. There was a historic turnout, and going back

(01:10:39):
to what we were talking about the very beginning of
this show, right about how we talk you know why
there was so much of a turnout, and you want
to know why Biden won. It's because we didn't talk
about unity. It's because we didn't talk about hope. We
talked about fear. We got people to the polls because

(01:11:02):
we scared the living ship out of them about Donald Trump.
That's what people got. That's how we got Democrats to
the poles. We scared the living ship out of them,
and that's what's got them there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
She had a message of unity. She even said, listen,
give you a conservative seat at the table. I want
to listen to you. He wants.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
No more kom bay ya. Democrats need to stop with
the kum bay ya. We're done, Like I'm telling you, like,
we need to change how we talk to people. We
need to stop with these flowery Oh we can still
believe in that. Okay, I'm not saying give it up,
but when we when we're running for president, stop listen

(01:11:53):
to what people want. What do you want? I'm just
going to bring up eggs, right, Okay, So people talking
about eggs, stop with stop with everything else. If people
are talking about a certain issue, talk about that freaking issue.
Stop with the you know everything else. Stop with the
hope and the change and the inclusion. Stop with the

(01:12:15):
celebrity songs. We don't need Lady Gaga, we don't need
freaking Beyonce. What we need is to talk about the
issues that people are talking about on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
I really like the Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I love the Lady, but that's not getting us votes.
We had all the celebrities, we had all the moving
songs and all the moving speeches, and it got us bullshit,
it got us nothing. It got us less votes. Okay, stop,
we need to stop with that. We need to stop
thinking it's a popularity contest because the celebrities like us,

(01:12:49):
and Jimmy Kimmel likes us, and oh my god, stop,
we're deluding ourselves. We're deluding ourselves the hope and the
change and and because we feel like we're on the
right side of history because we are. Okay, not saying
we're not, not saying that we don't have a good message,
not saying that we're not that's not going to get

(01:13:09):
people to the polls. Yeah, that's not the game. Play
the game. Republicans know how to play the game, and
we seem to think that because we have this great vision,
that that means we win, and it doesn't. And it's
costing us our future. I mean, just stop it. No,

(01:13:35):
And I'm not saying like, be mean, But what I'm
saying is mod says, yes, that sounds right to Nikki.
But the only way to destroy evil is to be evil.
If you can imagine evil being destroyed, would you be
appalled at that stance? Is the question?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
You want to get counter? Or do you want to
drag your knuckles in the mud just like they do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Don't bring a feather to a gun fight. Okay, we're
not going to bring a pillow and kumbah yah and
sit there. Okay, this isn't the sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
So you're saying they go low, we go high. Is
it working for you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
We knew that that wasn't working. We knew that wasn't working.
We knew that wasn't okay. We actually kind of tried
it a little bit right. We didn't go all in. Look,
we need to talk about what people care about. And
I'm also saying this. I'm also saying, like we need

(01:14:30):
it's not extending in all the branch, but it's hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Yeah. As she yells at Nugget, I'll say, Mario writing,
people are tired of Democrats always trying to be polite,
always trying to be politically correct, right, and maybe what
America wants is the ugliness. And I have to say
I don't want that. I was kind of like that
we're the classy group. Now I guess that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
What does that get you? Do we get a button
that says, oh, yeah, we're the classic group. We sit
there losing elections. We don't get anything for that, Kim,
we don't get anything for that. Okay, Look, this is
what we need to do. What we need to do
is we need to not extend in all the branch
because I do also think that we need to call

(01:15:16):
out the misogyny and the racism, and we need to
call out Republicans that don't call out that, right, Like,
if that's not who you are, if you're not a racist,
if you're not fascist or whatever, then call out people
that are on your party. Okay, we need to call
that out. So at least we have a baseline of
what's not acceptable. But when they have an issue, right,

(01:15:38):
just like let's take immigration, right, when they're complaining, if
they're in Arizona or New Mexico or whatever, Texas and
they're complaining, and they're complaining and they're complaining, and we're like,
you're complaining because you're racist. We're dismissing issues that matter
to them. That's not fair. It's not fair, and that's

(01:16:00):
our fault, and we need to come to terms with that.
We dismiss people with terms like you're racist and you're
not welcoming, and that's wrong, and that's losing us votes.
So we need to listen to them. We need to
figure out a way to compromise with them, and we
need to come up with a solution because this is

(01:16:21):
a gigantic country and just because we don't live down
there doesn't mean that we don't need to be part
of the solution. And if we don't, and if we
stay in our liberal bubble and we call people names,
we're going to lose election after election after election.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Why do you stand up for what's right? Though? When
do you stand up against racism and bullying and but
iss when they're not doing what they're accused of. Stand
that is wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
That is, But that's what I'm saying, Like, call it
out when that is. But when there's an issue, is
it wrong to say I don't want to have a
hundred thousand illegal immigrants right, migrants that are trying to
figure out whether they could be in the country or
not in my town? Is that wrong to say that?
Is it wrong, Kim?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Is it wrong because you dealing that thousands of migrants
in your town?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Is it wrong to say that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I don't think it's wrong to say that that they're
you know, point out the reasons why. You can't say
I don't want them because they're brown people. No, but
you can say it's hard to have this many people
in town when we don't have enough schools, and we
don't have enough roads, and we don't know if.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
It's month after month after month and nobody's doing anything
about it, and then you call out your president and
there's still nothing done, and then they're sitting in your
schools and still nothing's done, and then people are calling
you racist because still something's not done, and you're done
being called a racist because something's still not done. You
could understand why the frustration happens. And that's why we

(01:17:56):
get here with MAGA.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I am not, she says.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
I'm not saying compromise with MAGA. What I'm saying is
understand the issues that people are complaining about that we
might be ignoring understand that we might be ignoring issues
because we don't live there. I mean to think that
we understand the issues of everybody in every state. I

(01:18:23):
think is really naive, and that's why we are where
we are. I really do think that. Honest, is this
not a wake up call for you guys? Come on,
come on, I have to wake you guys up. We
are missing something here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Okay, but we didn't think there was anything wrong with
us until a day and a half ago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Right, we are in the mind already here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
How do you get to the point where you're like,
everything I think is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
No, I'm not saying what we think is wrong. What
I'm thinking is we are not hearing a certain segment
of America. And I don't think everything that they think
is right, but we're not addressing something here. We're not
addressing something.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I'm not saying everything that they think is right. But
what I'm saying is there's issues that we're not hearing. Right.
Not everybody that voted for Donald Trump is absolutely crazy.
There are crazy maga people, don't get me wrong, But
there's issues. We have to address those issues Democrats if
we want people to vote democratic again. There's people that

(01:19:26):
voted for Biden that didn't this time. There's a reason
for that. That's what we need to address. That's what
I'm talking about. Why didn't they vote for Biden or
for Kamala Harris this time? Besides misogyny or whatever. We
did not address something with them, and we need to
figure out why. And if we don't it, we're just like, ugh,

(01:19:50):
it's because they're racist or it's because they're sexist, then
we're being naive.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Ricky says, I know I can exist without compromising with
those who are intolerant and bigoted.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
I'm not saying to to to say that you can
be racist and bigoted. What I'm saying is listen, listen
to what they're saying. What what What is your issue?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
So let's again I keep talking about the border, because
that seems to be one of the biggest issues. Sure,
what is your issue? What is your issue?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
What is your biggest problem with it? Because again I
always think, especially if you live in the Bay Area,
like I love Bay Area people that complain about the border,
what is your issue? Oh, they're coming to your steeling jobs?
Which jobs? The jobs that white men are hiring them?
For right right at the construction site right over there,
that that white guy hired them for.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
And I really, are they really taking the jobs that
you're applying for that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
They hired them for. So let's let's who do you
have the problem with the general contractor that hired them
for the job? Call out that guy then, yeah, okay,
So let's let's just be fair in the critique. I
understand people that live in border tones. I want to
have a conversation with them, not these Bay Area people
that are freaking complaining in their million dollar, freaking homes.

(01:21:08):
Bite me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Rev says, we cannot become the other side. We can
promote policies that are acceptable to the majority. A progressive
populist can do that. No more cheneye and pretending to
be a Republican.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I'm not. Yeah, I'm not a Republican in any way,
shape or form. Okay, Vicky, what in what way am
I wrong? In what way am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Specifically? Like what am I saying? That's wrong? And I'm
not attacking you, Vicki, because I love you on the show,
But what am I saying? Like we need to talk
about the specific issues.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Maybe they feel attacked.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
But Angel, I'm not saying seventy three million people are racist, deplorable, uneducated,
or sexist. What I am saying is that when some
Republicans are acting racist, deplorable, and misogynistic, if the Republicans
don't call that out, you can understand why people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Think they're That says, you just don't play catera bully.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
But they're not all bullies, VICKI. That's what I'm saying. Like,
if there's an issue, you have to discuss it with them.
Like again, we can't lump everybody in. Just like Angel said,
I'm lumping everybody into the same bubble. I'm talking about
specific issues. We have to listen to each other. That's
what I'm talking about. I'm not saying all Republicans are racist, misogynistic,

(01:22:36):
and big get it. What I am saying is if
you if a Republican does not call out racist, misogynistic,
fascist activities within your party, then you're saying it's okay.
Call it out, don't call it a joke when it
offends people. That's my problem with the party. Angel, that's

(01:22:59):
my problem. If you think it's okay, it's not okay.
And it's not only inside either, Like we need to
just have a baseline of appropriate behavior. And if the
president says things that are wrong, it shouldn't be sleft
off as a joke. Because he's the president of the
United States. There should be a bar of behavior for

(01:23:21):
the president of the United States. There should be a bar.
I think Donald Trump should be held to a higher
standard than any other American. And I am sick and
tired of Donald Trump being given a pass. Oh he
was joking. Oh, that's just the way he talks. Bullshit.

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I am done with that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
That is not ready to get four more years of.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
It, and I'm not That's not okay anymore. He is
the president of the United States. He should not be
allowed if I'm not allowed to name call, right, if
I'm not allowed to name call and I'm not allowed
to say fascist, rais certain things? Now there is he
and if he does, he should be called out by
his party And I'm done with the play cating. Oh
that's just the way he talks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
They won't, they won't, They won't because that's just Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
And if his party and his supporters don't call him
out for that, then they're not allowed to call out
anybody else for that because obviously you don't care about
those things. That's the problem. If you're not gonna hold
your president to a certain standard, then why should I
hold anybody else to that standard. So let's just hold
him to the standard everybody. Let's hold everybody to the standard.

(01:24:34):
Let's not use name calling, let's not use racist whatever terms, everybody,
including the president. Let's just agree to that. And if
we can agree to that, then we can move on.
How about that? And we do that, Like that's what
I'm talking about, Like, let's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Jost We're not gonna have an US and of them,
or we will have an US and of them as
long as we are getting completely different information exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
And again, we need to just agree on certain And
this is another thing that I want to try, Angel,
Angel Kim. I want to understand situations from a Republican
point of view. And this is what we're going to
do as Donald Trump becomes president. We're going to listen

(01:25:28):
to exactly what he says. Okay, because this is what
I think happened sometimes sometimes not all the times. Is
the sound bites? Right? Oh, we played the light inside
the body, right, and everyone played the light inside the body,
even though that is what kind of what he said.
I want to listen to exactly what he said. And
then all of your Republicans that watch my show, I

(01:25:51):
want you to come on and you explained to me
what he said. Go ahead, what did he say, right?
Because I heard it and you heard it right, and
I don't want and he's what he meant, what he
meant to say, no more of this, what he meant
to say. Bs. I am so sick and tired of

(01:26:13):
people deciphering what the president of the United States meant
to say. He's the President of the United States. What
he says is what he says. No more. Right, He's
done this before, if none of this has always ever
been rosen in before, so you know he kind of
talks off the cop now, Ah, he's done this before.

(01:26:35):
What he says is what he says. I'm going to
take it at face value. Okay, So that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
So here, here's what I think Jennifer says. Talk past
the MAGA people to the people who can hear and
know when you are hearing them, the twelve million people
that flip their vote. Right. I read it from Wes earlier.
I've heard it from you today, but I would I
would say this, and I know that it's negative, Nelly,
and I'm so sorry that I can't be more positive
like I normally am. But what they say to you,

(01:27:06):
is what they will say to us, is well, our
guy won. We didn't need to listen to you. Why
would we even care about putting an olive branch out.
We don't need to find common ground, we were saying,
obviously we're in the majority, why would we need to
do that. So again, here we are talking ourselves till
we're blue in the face. Yep. Exactly care about our
message and they don't care about it. What they're saying

(01:27:26):
is clearly what you think doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
And that's when I say what my one word, and
that's when I say my word. Fine, fine, fine, then
show me. If you don't want to extend an olive
branch to me, fine, then Trump's platform better deliver. Fine.
Trump's going to deliver the economy. I'm going to have
Hella cash in my bank account. The water's going to

(01:27:51):
be great, healthcare is going to be cheaper and better, right,
everything he's promised me. The mass deportations are not going
to be a sh right. The economy is not going
to crater because of how much we depend on all
of these migrants for everything. Grocery prices aren't gonna skyrocket
because of it. Fine, fine, fine, show me and I

(01:28:14):
will eat crow if all of that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Fine, it won't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
But fine if it does. Fine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Here's the question. How bad does it have to get?
When we're like, fine and we're writing down on the
scorecard you failed at this, you said you do this,
you said you do that. The water is dirty, the
air is filthy, you know, the rights are taken away,
blah blah blah. How bad does it have to get
for people to fall out of that cult of trumble?

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
We have four years. That's what it's going to be.
It's it is what it is, Okay, So that's what
it is. And that's why I just say, fine, Fine,
you guys, all you Trump voters that it's going to
be fabulous. Fine, show me show me that it's not

(01:29:08):
going to be the a racist, fascist, misogynistic hell hole
that Democrats are so afraid of. Fine, show me show
me that he's not going to be vindictive, right, show
me that there's not going to be internment camps. Right,
all these fears that the Democrats have, right, show me

(01:29:29):
that women aren't going to be dying because they can't
get healthcare. Show me, fine, all of these nightmares. Now,
I'm not saying these are going to happen. These are
the nightmares that Democrats have, right, Fine, show me fine,
that's it. Fine, there's nothing else we can do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Oh, f around and find out. Never mind, I got it.
Josh says he needs a hap that says, f around
and find out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Oh yeah, yeah again, it's it's there's It's not as
if I'm saying give up, right, Like, I will always
advocate for what I want, right, I will always do that.
I think everybody should do that on any political side.
This isn't the end of the world dies. It's not

(01:30:21):
all about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Oh no, fine doesn't work for things like Kim Jong
un sending a missile to the United States because Trump
got into a tweet war with him. Right, that's not fine?

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Okay, Well let me ask you, lha, what are you
gonna do? Right? What are you gonna do? He's still
our president, so while and I'm not gonna do the
head in the sand thing. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Fine? It is fine, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
It's fine, because we have no choice. When is the
saying America gets the America America deserves and vote might
not deserve it. Well, we in the chat might not
deserve it as a collective whole. This is what America deserves.
This is what America voted for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
This is what America is, what America wants, overwhelming number right, Fine,
you wanted it, you voted for it. Show us I
didn't vote for this. But if this is what America wants,
if this is what America truly believes, is going to
lead us to this whatever, great grand better America where

(01:31:33):
money's just going to be spilling into our bank accounts
and there's gonna be great and eggs are going to
be like falling out my ass instead of a chickens ass. Fine,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Like fine, el Chase says Trump deporting me to El
Salvador after twenty four years living here as a legal resident.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Fine, No, it's not fine. You understand why I'm saying fine, right,
Like ol Chay, you understand my whole fine thing. It's
a fancastic fine. I hope you guys understand My fine
is dripping with sarcasm. Yeah, but fine, Like there's nothing,
not nothing, we can do, but show me. Show me

(01:32:16):
is what the fine means. Show me, Show me that
it's going to be better for all Americans, all Americans,
not certain Americans, all Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
You're fine, really comes, you know, a full circle with
this from Sandy. I wonder how many people will be
sorry that they voted for him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
We'll see, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
We have the tip of the iceberg. With women dying.
We've just started to see. Well, we have I don't
know seven eight women in the news that we've heard
that they have been denied care and have died because
of a child birth or a child carrying mishap, pregnancy mishap.
This is just beginning of this, and so over the

(01:33:02):
next four years as we if we still have a media,
because he's put the target on our back as well, right,
we'll hear more and more about it, and hopefully people
will say that it's not okay, even after this vote.
And maybe I'm a Pollyanna Nikki. I have faith that
there are more good people than bad. I understand that
people are frustrated for a million different reasons, but I

(01:33:25):
have faith that in time will see the light and
do the right thing, and as you say, what's the alternative?
If you don't have that hope, then you circle down
the drain of despair. So you've got to find a
way to find the hope and lift yourself up.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Exactly. I mean, there's listen, we had to continue fighting
the good fight. We live a lot of us, I know,
not all of us watching this show. A lot of
us live in California. I know a lot of us
are scared that even living in California doesn't protect us
from everything. Chris is fine, he goes, Okay, Magga, let's
see what she got. Not hopeful, rather expecting people to
be disappointed. No, it just means show us, put up her,

(01:34:05):
shut up your pro Donald Trump has promised, and MAGA
supporters have promised, quite the America, Quite the America. And
not only that, but a lot of the people are saying,
we are not the people that your name calling us. Right,
We're not the racist, misogynistic, fascist, hateful people that you

(01:34:28):
call us. Okay, then don't act like it. I'm not
gonna see any of that, right, I'm not gonna see
any of that, right, Okay, good, good, fine, I'm not
gonna see any of that fabulous. I won't see any
of that in any of the policies that Donald Trump

(01:34:51):
puts out after January fabulous. I'm so happy. I'm so
happy he's gonna look out for women's rights because he's
gonna protect it whether we like it or not. I
don't know what that means, of course, but he says that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Two chats that I wanted to throw your way. Sandy
says a lot of people regretted voting for him in
twenty sixteen. I wonder if any of those people voted
for him again in twenty twenty four, I would say,
the problem is they didn't vote right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
We did not have a turnout that people are thinking
that we had apparently red pieces that major anxiety. As
soon as I opened my eyes in the morning, the
buzz and my guts starts right back up. I've had
a medicaid just to sleep four more years. It's weird again.
I have this odd Guys just really need to adopt

(01:35:40):
this fine thing that I have. I don't know. It's
an anger and a sarcastic I don't know. Maybe after
I after Inauguration Day, it might change. I still live
in this kind of box. I'm the Cat, I don't know,
but again, we have each other, guys, like we really,

(01:36:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Josh, thanks for the subscription.

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And thank get everybody that has subscribed. We're here every Thursday.
We have our cocktails, we go over the news. You know.
John Stewart said that he's going to continue the Daily
Show through twenty twenty five. Saw that, and he put
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same thing that all the pundits were wrong, And it's true,
like what we know is what we don't know. We

(01:36:28):
don't seem to get it right. Like like I started
the show like I was so naive and I will
be at the first minute, I was so inspired by
Kamala Harris, and so were you. I think all of
us were like so inspired, but we got it so wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
We're just saying she wasn't a good candidate. I liked her,
I liked her, loved her message, I loved her enthusiasm.
I love what she would have done for this company.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
We underestimated. We underestimated so we had forgotten right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
We forgot worldly women, we forgot we America, people of color,
we forgot that part.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Right, we forgot we were in America. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
My wine is so big. I haven't even finished It's
it's a full on gobblet of wine like you can finish.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
God, I drink a little, So it's fine. Great show.
You guys are my world. Thank you guys so much. Again,
I love this fantastic show. By telling you it's going
to be the new mantra I think over the next
four years. Just fine, fine, bye bye. I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
I said this, if you can't affect national change, affect
local change, going one. I thought, that's really good. It's
true into something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
You can do something exactly. All politics is local, so
if you can't, you know, don't be disillusioned by national politics.
Stay local. Oh good. I hope you enjoy the results
of your voting, Cheryl. I love you guys. All right,
we'll see you back here five o'clock next Thursday. Love
you guys. Bye, Nikki.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
You know so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
I give you the less so the last. I really can't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
You're all so user Wow. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
I