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November 15, 2024 • 96 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, Hello, thank you for joining us on the Nicki
Meduro Show. I'm Nicki Medoro. She's Kim McAllister. This week
has been one for the books. So cheers, my friend.
This is Cocktails and News on the Nicki Medoro Show,
which we always have to drink lately. I mean, what
a week of appointments. I mean, between last week and

(00:38):
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(01:01):
It seems we're getting whiplash of all of the different
appointments that Trump has been making every single day. But
there's consequences, right Kim, here in California, and I want
to bring in a friend of the show because she's
waiting in the wings and we love having her on,
and I'm interested because there are consequences to elections here

(01:24):
in California. Our friend former California Public Utilities Commissioned President
Loretta Lynch is here. Loretta, thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
On with us.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Kim, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, so first off, before we talk about you know, energy,
pgen E, CPUC, how are you feeling atter the election, Loretta?
I mean, how have you been. I know you've been
dealing with COVID, You've been getting over COVID. How are
you feeling, just as a Californian, how are you feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm feeling scared. We have to do what Maya Angelo says,
which is believe him when he tells us who he is,
and he wants to be a dictator, and he will
be unless the Congress and the courts and the people
push back. And it is going to be a very
scary hard time, not only for California, but for everyone

(02:22):
across the country who was not who doesn't look like
and act like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it's just I've been. I've
been kind of going back and forth between trying not
to freak out. I told my husband the other night,
there was a moment before COVID hit the fan where
I was sitting at the dinner table and Kim You'll

(02:48):
remember this, Like we were getting this news in you know,
Steph Curry had gotten it, Tom Hanks had gotten it,
and I had this overwhelming pressure on my chest like
this is going to be bad because we were in
the news and we were getting all this information and
I got this like, oh, it's going to be It's
going to be bad. And I had that the other night,
like I was just like it's it's it's Gonfer. It

(03:12):
was a little bit I was, and then I had
to like just kind of breathe through it and not
freak out, like you can't live like that, right, Like
just kind of is what it is. We have to
you know, wake up and and kind of deal with it.
But there are consequences, like I mentioned at the at
the top of Loretta here in California, because our Governor
Gavin Newsom has been kind of on this kick of

(03:36):
like trying to Trump proof California and he's been, you know,
meeting with people and and trying to sign all these things.
Do you think you know, I guess like in your
expertise with energy and and and all those sorts of things,
are there ways that we can do it? When Donald
Trump doesn't even believe in climate change and things like that.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, the question is going to be whether or not
the federal rules are a floor or a ceiling. And
if they're a ceiling, they will harsh California's mellow right
because they will not allow us to go above probably
a very fossil fuel oriented ceiling. But if they're a floor,
and the states can go above them, which is generally

(04:20):
how the climate rules work, right, you can go further
along the path to clean energy than what the Feds require,
but you can't go less than what the Feds require.
So ideally California will continue its march for progress. The
big problem is the other states may well roll back
what little progress they've had, like Wyoming and Nevada and

(04:44):
Idaho and Montana, Colorado and New Mexico. Those are coal
and natural gas states, and so several of those states
don't even have a climate policy because they are captured
by the coal industry or the natural gas industry. And
so my biggest concern is that the governor is going

(05:06):
to move ahead with what should now be just an
absolutely ridiculous plan to seed California's authority to the federal
Energy regulatory commission to both run our electricity markets, which
is about what kind of power we can buy in
what price, and also run our transmission grid, because we

(05:28):
want our transmission grid and our electricity market to prioritize
clean energy and not dirty energy, and less expensive energy
and not super expensive energy. And if we just hand
all of that authority over to the Trump furk, you
know they're going to screw us over.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Eric makes a good point. Though we're the fifth or
sixth largest economy in the world, there's plenty of corporations
that will change their products to meet our regulations. And
it's not easy. I mean, if you're already on the
path of trying to meet California regulations and then Trump's
like you don't have to do that anymore, it's like, well,
wait a minute, we're already on the path. And they
might be saying and believe in climate change, like why

(06:10):
not just continue on that path?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And you've seen companies like Tesla say screw your regulations, California,
I'm out.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know, well, exactly, that's the problem. California has led
the country in zero emission vehicles electric cars basically, and
also in some real interesting pollution containment and pollution reduction
and carbon reduction requirements. And generally what's happened is some business,
if not the Association of Car Manufacturers, for instance, have

(06:41):
sued California and said, no, no, no, you are interfering
with you know, all sorts of federal rules, or you're
interfering with our ability to sell cars into other states.
And so California has had to defend itself again and
again and again to uphold our rules. And now the
big problem is what happens when not only do the

(07:03):
car manufacturers or the film in the blank polluter companies
to California, but the Trump administration comes in on behalf
of the polluters and not on behalf of California's right
to determine its own clean air and clean water.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
If you're joining us, we have a former CPC president,
Loretta Lynch with us. Elon Musk is also now parts
and parcel of the Trump kind of circle tesla. I mean,
you would think he would kind of have the ear
of Trump, even though I think Elon Musk is spreading
himself even thinner now that he's the you know, part

(07:42):
of this Department of Government Efficiency slash doze thing. Do
you think that might help just kind of, you know,
it would help Elon Musk sell more of his Tesla
vehicles if you know, they were kind of supported by
the Trump a minute straation.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't think Elon Musk owning Tesla is going to
be enough to change Trump's history and also his comments
about being a climate change denier on the campaign trail.
He said when he would praise Elon Musk, well, we're gonna,
you know, keep him away from all the electric car stuff,
but he can do these other things like slash government

(08:23):
services to those who most need them. So Elon Musk
is there to protect his big kahuna interests, which is
formerly Twitter X and SpaceX. Right, he has billions of
dollars of NASA contracts and who knows what kinds of
contracts he has for his satellite companies. So he's there

(08:43):
to protect his big dollar investments. And Tesla at this
point is kind of the tail wagging the very big
dog of the government contracted universe of Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, I was just announced today that Newson announced the
home electrification in and Appliance rebates for qualified homeowners. This
is the first of two federal programs in California for
climate resilient homes. I'm just bringing this up because again,
these are federal programs. Any sort of federal programs that

(09:15):
help Californians, can we just expect them to end under
the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I think so. Now, the great news is both, you know,
our Representative Nancy Pelosi and also our President Joe Biden
came together to pass incredible investments in clean energy, especially
in the Inflation Reduction Act of twenty twenty two. And
so those subsidies and those incentives are still available unless

(09:42):
than until the you know, Maga Congress repeals them. And
what they're going to do is they're going to take
every single possible incentive away in order to fund their
extraordinary corporate tax cuts, right so they are going to
slash all those So I would say the fact that
the governor is opening that money now in November, I

(10:04):
hope people going and get it and go buy those
products that are going to be eligible for it right now,
because I'm not so sure that money is going to
be available come March or April, and certainly not by
next October.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Exactly. Eric, again, he was talking about reigning in Pgenie
and the CPUC. I think it was what the end
of October where the governor was issuing that executive order
trying to regulate the CPUC. Is this just kind of
pomp Yeah, right, I signed this executive order to regulate

(10:40):
the CPUC, to regulate itself. What did you think about that, Loretta?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I think that the executive order continues the governor's war
on solar because, as he allowed louds a lot of
costs that the PUC has layered on us customers. The
one cost he calls out as unwornarranted is solar. So
he says, whereas California's electric rate increases have been driven

(11:07):
largely by the cost of some programs added over time,
like the subsidy provided through the Legacy net energy metering program,
which is the rooftop solar program, where if you produce
more solar electricity than you can use, you get paid
for it because it's a great benefit to the system.
And so the one cost he calls out as bad

(11:30):
and the one reason he gives for California's electric rate
increases is rooftop solar, which you know, at some point,
this tiny little program that really provides a lot of
benefits to the whole system, certainly to our air and water,
cannot hold all the wrath that the governor has poured

(11:52):
down upon it, because he's basically saying, Allah, the Wizard
of Oz, don't look behind the curtain. Go look at
that dog Toto rooftop solar program. Go get it, because
behind the curtain you will see that PG and E
drives extraordinary and excessive costs, excessive executive compensation and bonuses,

(12:15):
excessive profiteering, excessive profits when they build new transmission lines
that we don't need at premium profits, or when they
underground transmission lines at ten times the cost of just
fixing the wires so that the lines don't burn. So really,

(12:35):
what we need to do is look at the serious
drivers of our electric rates, which are profiteering, overprofiting, undergrounding,
unnecessarily building unnecessary transmission lines. And also the secret procurement
contracts where the PUC keeps secret the actual cost of

(12:56):
buying electricity for Californians. And if we knew the sweetheart
deals they were approving, we would never stand for them,
which is of course why they keep them secret. And
then just like Elon Musk and Tesla and all his
other businesses. The rooftop Sellar program is the tale that
the governor says is wagon the whole dog of costs,

(13:17):
when in fact that dog needs to be put on
a diet.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now, exactly when you look at you look at who
is the next Democratic star rising star, and you look
at what Kamala Harris had to offer and her skeletons
in her closet, she didn't have one like this, which
is the way Californians feel. You can see Gordon writing here,

(13:41):
shame on Gavin, the way Californians feel about his deal
with this, you know, nominating all these CPUC members and
then basically just rubber stamping everything PG and he wants
do you feel like that's going to hold him back?
Should he be the next person from the Democratic Party
to try to run for president?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, I think if we can take one thing from
this election is that most people were ticked off that
their bills had gone up so high for no reason
that was ever explained to them. They were paying more
and getting less. And that's exactly what is happening to
Californians when it comes to their electricity bills. We are

(14:23):
paying way more and getting way less. We don't have safety.
We know that from all the wildfires. We don't have reliability.
We know that from all the power shut offs and
the fact that it took pun like six weeks to
fix one small transmission line on my street and they
turned off our power several times before they actually got
it fixed, right, And that's happening all over the state.

(14:48):
And so when you pay more and get less, people
are angry. And what we've just seen is they take
it out on the elected officials that were presiding when
they started to pay more on getting less. So until
the governor fixes the real reasons for our outrageous and

(15:08):
spiraling out of control electricity bills and stops blaming it
right here, the only blame he puts is on Brieftop
solar program. Until he really honestly examines the drivers of
our outrageous costs, he won't be able to fix them.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, and not only are we getting less, I won't
turn on the heat. I'm not actually even getting anything again.
Blankets are out, Loretta. I keep telling my then not
turning on the heat. It's not that cold yet, I'm
not even getting it. And my bill is still expensive.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, and think about it, Nikki. If you were a
single mom on a fixed income and all of a
sudden your bill doubled, what that means is then you
don't have enough money for groceries or shoes, or school
supplies or something else like rent. And I grew up
in a working class family where my dad would say,
put on a sweater, don't touch that dial, because I knew,

(16:05):
even when I was in grade school that if our
electric bill went up, it meant we didn't eat meat.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
My mom, who was a teacher for forty years before
she retired, we had growing up and still to this day,
a Thanksgiving rule, no one turns on the heater before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
And we had book club at my mom's house the
other day and a couple of the people there were like,
it's kind of cold in your house, and my Mom's like, yeah,
grab a blanket there, exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah. Everyone keeps saying it, Everyone keeps saying it is it,
it's cold in here. I'm like, yeah, get a blanket everyone.
You know what everyone's getting for Christmas. You know, you
can get a little electric blanket if you want. You
could plug it in and warm up just a little bit.
But I am not not turning on that heat or
heating up everybody in the else. I have a bet, Loretta,
I bet you as Gavin leaves, perhaps he'll start solving's

(16:53):
magically solving some of these problems. But he's not running again. Obviously,
we do have candidates. Malla Harris now is being a
name thrown about for the governor's race, although she hasn't
made a decision. Obviously she's still licking her wounds from
the presidential race. Some other names, Katie Porter, a Riverside
County sheriff, Chad Bianco, a Republican state Senator, Brian Dolly,

(17:19):
Lieutenant Governor Lani Coolanakis and then former LA Mayor Antonio
Viragosa are all on the list of people that perhaps
are going to be running for the governor's race.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Tony Thurman to our school chief, Benny Ye, our former controller,
Tony Atkins, the former state Senate President pro tem from
San Diego, And then many people say, Rob Banta are
ag We've got We've got able.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
So of all of the people that we've that were
just mentioned, who do you think will be the best
on energy policy in California?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
From your perspective, Who's going to get your endorsement. Loretta
was going to get your endorsement.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, I'm not ready to say yet, and I'll tell
you why. Because the governor I've heard, and certainly his
California Independent System Operator or the cal ISO, is going
to put a bill into the legislature yet again this
January that will give away California's power to run its

(18:23):
electricity markets and to oversee its transmission grid to the
federal government. And why in the world, when we're trying
to Trump proof California would we hand over incredible control
to the Trump firk. I do not understand it. But
the ISO, which is currently a California corporation that is

(18:46):
supposed to follow California law that says you were supposed
to run the grid and the energy markets in a
manner that minimizes cost to California consumers and maximizes the
availability resources, meaning enough power to California consumers. They don't
like those rules because they don't want to run the
grid to minimize costs and maximize power to California. They

(19:09):
want to be the overlords of the entire West. They'll
make more money, they'll be more important, and most importantly,
they will be free of pesky California and our climate goals,
because they want to run this grid to run the
heck out of coal and natural gas, and right now
we don't let them run our grid that way. And

(19:31):
so they have been trying to jail break out of
California law for a long time, for at least eight years,
and here comes here they come again, except for very
sadly this time. I've been told, and I don't know
that this is going to still be true, that the
governor is going to put his stamp of approval on
this ISO jail break.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Why would he do that? What's the argument?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
The argument is, well, you know, California doesn't always have
enough power, so if we expand and have this regional grid,
we can get more power from other states. And California
has great green laws, and if we expand, we will
essentially educate and bring our green laws to the West.

(20:14):
But what I know is we have plenty of power.
We trade with every other state every day, pretty much
every hour of every day. That's not the problem. The
problem is the other states don't share our climate goals,
and the other states don't have the prices that we have.
In fact, California is two to four times more expensive

(20:37):
than all the other Western states, depending on which state
it is. So I don't see why any Western state
would want to hitch their wagon to us, except we
will then become a new market for their fossil fuels.
And many of these Western states are very fossil fuel dependent. Again, Montana, Colorado, Wyoming,

(20:57):
big time. Wyoming is a cold state, basically Novada, Utah, Idaho.
Those folks are super fossil fuel dependent, and right now
it's harder for them to sell us fossil fuel to
make electricity, fossil fuel electricity if we regionalize and the
rules are set by the federal government. Do you think

(21:17):
the Trump furk is going to make it easier for
them to sell their fossil fuels into California? Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Then would we buy it?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I mean, if we have our g we wouldn't have
to buy it because the rules will be set by
the federal government, not the state.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, And I and you think Newsom would do then.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's a pig and a poke. And we have seen
this pig and a poke before. You know, Enron touted
energy deregulation as a way to have cleaner power, lower prices,
more reliability, and instead we got dirtier power, higher prices,
and blackouts. Here they go again. The sons of Enron
want to make money. They want to wring every penny

(21:57):
out of the dying industry of fossil fuels. And we
are the ones leading that fossil fuel death, we Californians,
And so they would love to co opt us into
a federal scheme where the federal government is pro fossil fuel,
because then under the supremacy clause the Constitution, we would

(22:17):
have to follow the federal rules. But as long as
we have a one state only market, which is what
we have now, then we have a much bigger say
in how that's run. For instance, under our state law,
this California State Corporations Board of Directors is appointed by
the governor and confirmed by the state Senate. The proposal

(22:41):
will eliminate that California Corporation and its authority, and instead
will change the corporation to a Delaware corporation that will
be run by people who are not Californians, who are
not picked by California, and who couldn't care less about California.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Is this going to be something that go before voters
or is this something that it's an executive governor decision.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
No, it will be a bill in the legislature. So
I'm really hoping that the folks who listen to you
guys call their legislators and say, hey, the ISOs what
they are now calling Pathways program. It's a pathway to
a greener future. It's a pathway to coal and higher
prices is what it's a pathway to. But they're a program,

(23:26):
which is just another name. They've just changed the name.
It's regionalization. It is seeding California's authority, giving it away
to the Trump Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and they will
rule California's markets, California's transmission and pretty much what we
buy and where it goes at what price.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So this goes against what we've been hearing in the
media that Governor Gavin Newsom is trying to Trump proof California, right,
that he's trying to take all these steps to make
sure that Trump can't touch us and all the things
he wants to do don't affect us here that much.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I wonder if he's doing that so he can maybe
make himself appealing to the rest of the United States
as he makes his way to trying to become president
of the United States.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Will be proofing us from this, No, Kim, this is
going to be where the rubber hits the road, and
it's going to be a real test of whether the
governor is walking the walk or talking the talk. If
he moves forward with the ISO pathways or regionalization program,
he'll just be talking the talk, because this will expose
us to the insanity of Trump's energy policies and higher

(24:39):
prices in a way that we don't have to do it.
If we just let it be, we can protect ourselves
so much more than just ceding all protections to the
Trump furk for some future amorphous maybe possibly in twenty
years benefit that Frankly, they always say the benefit's going

(24:59):
to happen in tender twenty years because then they know
that a new governor will be around to have to
face the consequences.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So we know that that you say that this is
going through the legislature a bill that then the governor
would sign, and then it would and that's all it
would take. And we also know that PG and E
dumps a buttload of money into politics, so we don't
know how many people in the you know, representing Californians
will be just bending over for PG and E because

(25:26):
they've been paid off by them. And that's the problem
is that even if you make the phone call and
say please don't do this, they may be beholden to
PG and E because of campaign contributions, right.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Or Sempra, which owns San Diego Gas and Electric and
so Cal Gas. But this really benefits what I call
the sons of Enron. This benefits Warren Buffett and all
his coal holdings. This benefits a whole bunch of Texas
and Florida energy companies that own a bunch of liquefied
natural gas and other natural gas holdings. This will provide

(25:58):
an enormous, pretty much new market for all that fossil fuel,
just as California has been starting to close our market
to that and try to reach our climate goals. So
it's just absolutely insane if what you want is cleaner air,
cleaner water, and to reach our climate goals at a
reasonable price. But you know, as you just mentioned, Kim,

(26:22):
money talks. Money talks, and so the big question is
will the governor be talking about trump proofing California or
will he be walking the walk and will he tell
the ISO. No, we don't need to see one one
kill a wat.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Of California's authority and law, much less convert a California
corporation to a Delaware corporation and let it just run
away from California control.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And honestly, as these people start running for governor, who's
talking about pg and E and the CPUC. I mean,
that is a top issue I would say for California voters,
and I want the next candidate for governor of California
to be talking about it. And if the candidate isn't
even talking about it, then that just tells me where
their kind of loyalty lies. If you're not talking about

(27:14):
PGNI and the CPUC, then that also speaks volumes to
me about where you're going to go.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Nikki, you are having just exactly right, which is why
I didn't answer your question who am I for? Because
until the candidates take public positions one against this wolf
in sheets clothing ISO Pathway's jail break, and also until
they take public positions about just how they're going to
make the PUC accountable to the people and not to

(27:44):
the utilities. Right, we got to change that PUC from
being a lap dog to a watchdog exactly, and there
are lots of ideas out there about how to do it,
and so far none of the candidates are talking about that.
So that's going to be my litmus test, and boy
will I have a litmus test, because who the next
governor is is going to be key and critical to

(28:07):
whether or not we continue these out of control spiraling
electricity and gas prices where we pay more and get less.
We don't have to do that. The rest of the
states don't do that. We have the second highest electricity
prices in the country. Of course, the highest is Hawaii, right,
and at least you can understand why they're.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
In exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
So the highest in the country and certainly in the
contiguous United States, which says we're doing something wrong because
we're not getting more for it, we're getting.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Less, exactly. So we're going to be keeping a close
eye on this as we had twenty twenty six. We
are going to talk to you a lot. I don't know.
I honestly, I don't have a choice. You guys know,
I love Katie Porter. I would love to see the
whiteboard with Katie Porter I feel like she would like,
honestly at least get some of the people out there
and kind of do the for people. So we'll have

(29:01):
a lot to talk about us we head to twenty
twenty six, and I definitely as we get closer, we're
going to try to get an endorsement out of you
as we get closer to that election.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Well, I need it.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm going to exactly I'm going to need it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
You look at domestic policies, You look at things like
you know, Governor Gavin Newsom, look at what he did
for same sex marriage, and look at what he did
for giving people freedoms, and I thought, well, that's just
the most wonderful thing that should have been done long
and long time ago, right, And then you have this
whole other side to him, where about giving deals to
the guy at whatever the stand work shop was. It

(29:35):
was a Panera bread and giving deals to the guy
at the stadium in Los Angeles and PG and E
deals And it's like, well, you're kind of creeping me
out with money and your reed well at the same
time doing good things. So it can be hard to
kind of figure out who these people are.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Sometimes, Well, well, Kim, what I would say is this.
I believe the governor is a great civil rights democrat, right,
very civil rights and no money's involved. He's all there.
But what we need is a great civil rights democrat
or a great civil rights governor and a great economic
rights governor. We got to be for the people when

(30:10):
it comes to economic rights. And if we don't understand
the message of this election, which was from my perspective,
just that where are you in our economic rights? You
can't be for big corporations or for you know, unlimited
trade when it's not fair without taking care of the
people at home. And so this governor and the next

(30:33):
governor is going to have a really big mess on
their hands fixing two decades of corporatist electricity policies. It
can be done, but you have to have the political
will to do it, not just you know, being interested
in civil rights exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I love Teacher Laurie's comments. So we want to message something,
it should be something like Gavin Newsom say no to
ISO and pathways. I mean, we could do all sorts
of things, but you have to start writing. You know,
the people that are running for the governor in the
governor's race, and he has to write to new some.
I mean, he's still the governor. You know, if he
says yes to this, we're kind of screwed. So yeah,

(31:14):
so we have to do that. Loretta Lynch, former president
of the CPUCI. Everyone loves you when you come on
the show because you explain things that we never understand.
We love having you. So glad that you're feeling better.
Thank you so much for coming on the show. The
door is always open and I always appreciate you making
the time for us, So thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You guys are great. Thank you so much for having me,
and I am happy to be invited back because I
will so take you up on that.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Ye have a good way. Bye. Loretta Lynch, former president
of the CPUC. And again you I mean, I say this, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Do you even know? Did you even know that the
ISO was going to go federal? Did you have no
idea that that was on the on the docket? Because
I didn't, and I pay attention to things, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know what's so disappointing is that Govin becomes more disappointing.
The closery is to like not being our governor anymore.
I mean not in everything, because I do think he's
a good spokesperson for the Democratic Party. I do like
when he like sticks it to the Republicans and all
that sorts off, you know, on the national stage. And

(32:20):
I really do think that he's like stop, you know,
there was something he was talking about last week where
we need to stop licking our wounds. I do think
that he's good on that sort of thing for the
Democratic Party. This sort of crap kisses me off to
no freaking end. It really does.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Stuff just makes him look like any other run of
the mill politician with this handout.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Now, let me ask you, let me ask you the
laundry list of people running for governor. If Kamala Harris
was running, do you think she'd be more of a
beholden to paganie than like someone like Katy Porter. I'm
just just I'm not saying she would be or she
wouldn't be, but just on the top of your head
because of the politician, like long time politician, I know.

(33:03):
I mean, then again, she.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Kamala Harris has had a history of you know, fighting
for the public. As she said multiple times during this election,
you know, my client has been the people. Do we
believe that. Do we believe she's for the people? I think.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
THEREDDA mentioned this.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
If if, as we just saw in this election, that
Trump and the Republicans won because people vote vote with
their pocketbooks, and that is what the most important issue
to America was the price of eggs, the price of gas,
the price of milk, whatnot and what not. If that
was so important to us, then here in California, we
would be asking these questions and demanding it of our journalists.

(33:43):
Find out who's going to lower my PG and E bill,
find out who's the best for energy policy in California.
And I don't think we get through the next govers
and a governor's election without all of us making that
a key issue, right I do.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh, and I'm learning from Laretta Lynch kamalas attorney general
did not indict p Jeanie over San Bruno. It took
the federal government to indict them. Wow, I'm just thinking
like something like long term politicians. I'm not gonna say
this about I hate saying this because I hate putting
all politicians into the same bucket. I don't like broadbrushes.

(34:21):
I always hate that because I think it's unfair, but
I liked, I honestly feel like and and thank you
Loretta for that side note. I always feel like when
you're in politics for a long time, it just you
just become a holden. You just do just because you're
in it a long time. So I know, you guys
know I love Katie Porter. So I'm biased, and I
always admit this. I just love her. Katie Boro hasn't

(34:43):
been in politics as long she has experienced, and she's
been in it enough, right, but not I guess, not
long enough to be as dirty as somebody else.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And and she puts you know what, Lorena was talking
about the economics. She knows the economic and loves sticking
it to these people. That's what I love about Katie Porter.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, what you're telling
me is this? Plus this mine is this? This is
what you're telling me? How does that make sense? And

(35:14):
I love that about her, right, And I do think
she also cares about civil rights and everything else because
she's a mom. She you know, all these sorts of things,
so you know, you know what I'm saying. So anyways,
it's gonna be a long couple of years to the
governor's race and we'll see what happens. But Newsome's out,
so you know, there's no more Newsome. I wonder what

(35:36):
he's gonna do in the next couple of years. But
we first have to get through this, Okay, So let's
talk about we're gonna get into Trump's appointments, and honestly,
I really feel like it is just been whiplash. But yeah,
let's do some thank yous too, because you guys have

(35:57):
been really donating to the show. Thank you, Jim, five
dollar donation. Thank you to Loretta. We love Loretta Lynch. Again,
I mentioned she had COVID. She was supposed to come
on before she lost her voice. She was supposed to
come on like weeks ago, and it took her a
while to get rid of that voice. So COVID still
around if anybody worried about or Okay, by the way, jeez, Louise,

(36:19):
but yes, thank you Loretta, Uncle Scrooge, thank you, five
dollar donation, donation and the supersticker, thank you, thank you,
Thank you Louise for the ten dollar donation. Okay, he writes.
Key to handicapping Trump's appointments equals just think of the
worst possible least qualified person for the position. Come on,

(36:41):
emptg Jewish laser conspiracist for Ambassador to Israel. Come ong
has not been appointed anything yet, but who knows? You
know what I mean, not yet, but who the heck knows. Louise,
also with the two dollars sticker, is sorry for your
lost Calvin. Calvin.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, Calvin's parents have passed away.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't know the timing of it, but he had.
There's a beautiful video that his sister made and it's
really poignant because it showcases his parents' life from the
time they got together as young people and then adding
children through the years into their you know, their retirement years.
I'm choking up thinking about it. It's really a beautiful video.
So yeah, I'm sorry too.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I'm sorry. I can't imagine. I have both of my parents,
so I really just I truly can't imagine. But my
heart goes out to you, Calvin. You've been a long
friend of the show, and so my heart and prayers
go out to you. I'm so sorry about that. That sucks. Yeah, okay,
Eric says, I don't know which is worse. Matt Gates

(37:46):
is Attorney General butt heead Or R junior for HHS.
So Matt Gates mag Gids needs to like he needs approval, right.
So Republicans as a whole, I think, don't like Matt Gates, right,
And he resigned like immediately, and and Republicans are saying, oh,

(38:09):
it was to give more time to replace the seat.
And the Democrats are like, it's because that report about
him being like a predator was just about to be released.
There's this video. I'm gonna show you guys, what's his face.
Cornyn wants still that that report to be released about

(38:30):
Matt Gates because Matt Gates, he's a predator. The woman
that it's about still wants it to be released. Was
like I was in high school when the allegations against
him happened, so like, it's not minor she was allegedly,
but the allegations are not minor against Matt Gates. So

(38:53):
here is Senator Cornan talking about that.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
How critical is it.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
To have access to what the House Ethics Committee has
found in their investigation.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think there should not read any limitations whatever. The
House Ethics.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Absolutely so now they don't have to release it. But
apparently one person from the House Ethics Committee just needs
to switch sides, and they can release the report, so
one person would have to do it.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
So I don't know what do you mean by switching sides,
like from a yes to a no or Republican.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I don't yeah, I don't know exactly what that means.
I don't think you need to switch parties, but maybe
just kind of switch sides or support. I don't know
what that exactly means. But he wants to see it,
so I don't switch side.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
What I understand is that in the games the political
gamesmanship of Washington d C leaks are quite common, and
that we should expect that if, for whatever reason legally
they don't release this document, that it will be leaked
and we will get to see it anyway.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Does anybody actually believe that Matt Gates didn't feel it?
I mean, I'm not all allegedly allegedated. I mean, look
at the guy. I mean, I'm not gonna sign.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
So the report gets leaked, and the report comes out,
and we figure out that he's as big of a
skeezy gross guy as we thought.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
He was exactly, And does it matter. No, No, it
doesn't matter to Republicans. He's oily gross disgusting guy.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Obviously the President of the United States incoming. That is
legally he's a fall in. He's yes, he's legally liable.
He wasn't convicted in a criminal way, but he's legally
been held liable for the rape.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Of a person. So if we don't care about that, no,
we don't care about.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Apparently Matt Gates doesn't. We don't care about him trafficking people.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Matter.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
The bar is so low that there is no bar.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Have to do to be considered a no vote. I
don't know what you would have to like, how low
can you think before you're not wanted?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Thank you Pamela for the five dollars donation, and thank
you A Luis for the other five dollars donation. Matt
Gade's already assembling his staff. R Kelly Diddy, Harvey Weinstein
butt heead wants you exactly. But this is the thing
that's actually pretty funny, but in a way, right, But
this is the truth. The point that you just made,

(41:28):
Kim is absolutely true. The American people overwhelmingly have shown
us that they do not care about moral moral codes,
whether you're a felon, whether you're accused of any crimes,
whether you're convicted of any crimes, they do not care.

(41:53):
And if you are convicted of it, they don't. They
either don't want to believe it, or they plug their
you know, they cover their eyes and they plug their ears.
They have to, right, because if they were actually paying attention, right,
if they paid attention, then they would know that it
was true. But they don't watch the actual news or

(42:15):
follow the actual thing. They don't write, they don't they
I truly believe. For instance, the January sixth hearings right,
there is no effing way zero that people that actually
support Trump actually watched it, right. They watched NEWSMAXAAN Fox
News distilling it for them. They had to have because

(42:38):
if you actually watched it and listen to the actual
people that were there that worked within his administration and testified,
they would be like, oh my god. But they didn't.
And the reason why they didn't is because they knew
in the tiny parts of their body that they don't
want to talk about, that they would be convinced and
they didn't want to be.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
They don't want to be convinced. They want to live
in either ignorance or they're ignorant. So choose one. That's it,
choose one. Uncle Scrooge says breaking our cases, chemicals and
the water cost kids to be gay or trans Is
that true?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I mean, I wouldn't. There's no science involved in him,
so I don't doubt you, but I feel like I
need proof. Did he really say that?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I'm looking, I was trying to look it out water.
I'm just gonna put three words. Yeah, all right, so
it three hours ago? Well on CNN rf K Junior
has repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality
in children.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
So is that because chemicals? I mean, let's follow his
train of thought. I'm guessing. Is it because chemicals affect you?
Drink in the chemicals and they affect your hormones, and
then so then you m hormonal, hormonally confused, used, then
you sexually confused. Is that where he's going with that?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Who cares? Here's a question, here's my question. I have
reason and have logic with the guy. Why will I
care who people are sleeping with? Why do I care
what you care?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Honestly, why does.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
All I for yourself on someone in a dressing room?
And I care if the person is seventeen or under age.
Oh yeah, but like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Care if you're sleeping with if you're a man and
you're in a consensual relationship with another man, an adult, right,
I don't care. I don't keep your eyes on your
own papers. How many how many people have said fine
over the last week, right, I mean, and this is
the other thing. So okay, So the Republicans have the

(44:49):
House and the Senate and obviously the presidency, and they
have a conservative Supreme Court. So don't cry to dems.
Don't when and the things that you think are supposed
to happen don't, right, Okay, if they do, and honestly,
utopia happens, great, great, if utopia happens, I won't complain.

(45:15):
Utopia is here, yay.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I don't believe that's gonna happen, but fine, fine, But
if it doesn't, you have no one but yourself to blame,
because you can't blame us.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
We are literally not in charge of anything, like the
thing that's able, like the craziest people. This is where
you step back. Here's what my sister says.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
She says this, she's always she's a she's a therapist, right,
but she's always trying to find the good and things
and trying to uplift And I told her that I'm
just like Loretta, I'm scared, and that I look at
this and every day it's like a new Oh my god,
or you can this is what we're doing right, And
she said, listen, this is going to be so bad.

(46:07):
Oh no, no, no, she said the next four years
it's like it's going to be the biggest s show.
And maybe that's what this country needs to go. Oh
that's not what we want at all, that's not what
we meant at all. And so then maybe you have
this massive turnaround where we set the course right again.
But then she said, like some things, you have to

(46:28):
hit rock bottom before you rise back up. So maybe
this is America hitting rock bottom before we have another,
you know, resurgence of good. I don't know. I told
her she's full of crap, but maybe she's got something
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
All right, Okay, I want to get into what I
actually teased for this story, and that is these protests.
And as you can tell from the tease of my
you know thumbnail, I ain't about it. These four b
and these blue bracelets. Okay, and you guys can be honest.

(47:03):
Obviously I'm not into it. Okay, but you guys can
be honest with me. I will not attack you. Who's
into it, who's into the four B idea? And okay,
So the four B movement basically no marriage if you're
not married. No no children if you don't have them,
no dating if you're not you know, obviously in a relationship,

(47:27):
and no sex with men, and that even if you
are married. Apparently, yeah, you're basically like if you're a woman,
it's like abstain just basically from everything he says as
a form of protest, as a form of protest. Now,
Nick Fuantes that there. He came up with this video.

(47:48):
I'm not gonna play it, do not google it. I
watched it. It kept coming up on my feed. He's
a for writer. We played him before. It's he's an
ass hat. Okay. He came up with his video. You've
seen it, you've heard it. Your body my choice kind
of thing. It's very upsetting. The video is.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Like, why how did he even get any air?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Oh? Oh, he's been a guy, he's been around for
a long time. But anyways, his video is very upsetting. Okay,
So anyways, the four me movement is kind of in
response to that attitude, right, like women are taken back
control of their body. Men want to be like this. Okay,
you don't get us, then, now I understand that mentality.
I understand that no, no, one, No, I'm not giving

(48:36):
up one. I'm not giving up my husband, who has
done nothing wrong, who is a supporter of me, who
is a supporter of women. Right, I'm not giving up sex.
Not I'm not shaving that hurts him as much as
it hurts you. So no, I'm not shaving my head,
which is also apparently part of it, which is like

(48:56):
what you would shave your head. Shave your head if
you want to. If you want to do anything, listen,
if you don't want to have sex with men anymore
because you're protesting, do it on percent. You have my
support if that's what you truly want to do. I'm
not saying don't do it. I'm not doing it. And
it doesn't mean that I'm not supporting women. Okay, that's
what I don't support. Okay, it doesn't make me less
of an advocate, is what I'm saying. Okay, I feel

(49:19):
like performative protests are not what we need, right, now
blue bracelets, which is supposed to be like a signal
that apparently, and this is what I understand them to be.
And you guys can correct me if they're wrong that
white women are giving to signal that I didn't vote
for Trump to other people. Stupid idea. One Apparently it

(49:44):
was used by like far right groups also, so that's
been co opted a little bit. Apparently there's some sort
of history with that. And two another performative pro like signaling.
We don't need signals, we don't need that.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Stop. If you want to know who I voted for
as a white woman, why don't you just talk to me.
I'll tell you. I've told you right here.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I mean, what why do I need a bracelet? I
don't understand.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Is it the act of people feel like they need
to do something that it feels like such a kick
in the gut that you feel like you need to
take action, yet there's no real action that you can
take aside from like maybe stocking up on Plan B
and being prepared for the long winter ahead. Right right,
there's nothing to do. Well, I did aunt of no

(50:31):
having sex that's going to fix this?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Right, So this is what I did, and I did it,
and it actually kind of happened organically, and I'm going
to keep doing it. And I warned him about it,
and I was like, this is going to be happening
and a lot, and it's going to happen because it
probably a lot over the next several years. Especially. So
I went the other night and my son was in

(50:54):
his bedroom and I'll go and I always go in.
You know, you had to bother your kids, right, I
go into my bed, my kids bedroom when I jump
on his bed and I'm just like bothering him because
you know, Mom's here. And I was like, hey, you know,
then what are you doing? You know, talking and you know,
I was like, what are you looking at on his phone?
And just you know, it's not snooping and you know,
I was like, you know, what are you looking at

(51:15):
on your phone? He's like nothing, I'm just watching videos
or whatever. And I go, okay, I was like look
and I was like, I want to know what you're
watching obviously, and I was like, and it's and as
a boy and as a young man, you need to
be very mindful of the videos that you watch. And
I was like, because they're gonna get you. I was like,
you're going to start seeing videos. He's like, I don't

(51:36):
watch those kind of videos, Mom, And I was like, oh,
it doesn't matter. I was like, you can be watching
the most innocent of videos and all of a sudden,
the algorithm may know and discover you're a boy, and
then all of a sudden, it's going to start feeding
you certain messages. And I was like, and over the

(51:57):
next few years especially, it's gonna get hateful and you're
gonna be You're gonna start being fed hateful messages about
women and about you know, people of different ethnicities, lgbtqs.
He's like, Mom, that's you know I would never do.
I'm like, I don't care of what you would never do, right.

(52:20):
I'm like, if you're fed a message over and over
and over again, then you start repeating it with your
friends and you think that it's funny, and then it
becomes a joke, and I'm like, that's what I don't
want to happen. You walk through the halls and all
of a sudden, you just kind of yell to your friends,
my body, your body, my choice as a joke. Right,

(52:44):
it's a joke with your friends because you saw it online.
No you don't do that because then a girl hears
it and she internalizes it. Right, I'm like, this is
how it happens. Here's how I know you're right.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
There was a group of boys and junior high just
to two years ago when Julia was in eighth grade,
and they somehow found that guy, remember that guy, Andrew
Tate with the pizza box like total massages, gross, gross guys.
I was reviewing her text and I saw one of
them refer to stuff that he'd been saying. These are

(53:20):
boys that are here in the North Bay, and you're thinking,
how did that happen? It's just precisely from what you're saying.
You get served up this stuff. They're impressionable. They hear
it and they're like, oh, I guess that's how men think. No,
it isn't.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
It's just a joke, you know. It's just like that
remember the Hawktua girl. Remember Yeah, okay, so that's you
know that's made his way to middle school.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
You had to explain that to me, right, But it's
all these things, right, It's it's all of a sudden,
it just becomes a joke. And then all these sudden
these kids are saying and no comprehension, really what I mean, right,
And then all of a sudden it's like, no, wait
a minute, and they don't have any true comprehension. But
at the same time they do. I think young ladies

(54:04):
do know because young girls learn really young, right, They
really do learn really young that their bodies are a
form of currency. Young girls learn it extremely young that
their bodies get them what they want. They're told that
they're beautiful, or they're told to give somebody a kiss

(54:24):
or whatever. Young girls are told this. We learn this
very young. And so now all of a sudden, you
have middle school, high school boys telling you, as a joke,
your body, my choice, and then adults that voted for
this guy to be president of the United States sates. Oh,

(54:45):
these lips are just cry babies. This is the repercussion
of politics. We're not crying because Donald Trump's in the
White House. We're crying because of the repercussions that trickle
down all the way down to our kids. That's what
we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. That's the

(55:06):
consequence of elections. And people say, oh, you have Trump
derangement syndrome. No, it's because we see the consequence when
Donald Trump says it, and then as manyons say it,
and then they put it on social media, and then
it spreads like wildfire. It gets to my thirteen year
old that's and now I have to have a conversation

(55:27):
with him. And I told him, I was like, this
is not the first or last time I'm going to
have this conversation. He looks at me, He's like, I'm now,
and I'm like, I'm serious, Like I'm going to be
in your ear just as much as that's going.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
To be in your ear when you look at the
things that we can do right a moment, exactly, raising
our boys to be good people that are respectful.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Of women, that care exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
And it's interesting a couple people had sent me. It's
like a forty minute video of politics girl. You know
politics Girl. She's really good. Lee McGowan is her name, Yes,
And she waited a week and then she gave her
views on the election, and she was really impassioned. Part
of her video had the Nick Fuintes video and embedded

(56:11):
in it, and then she came back on And so
I'll tell you first of all that Jacob was happened
to be in the kitchen while I was watching this, okay,
and I didn't realize she was going to show that.
And he got tears in his eyes and said, why
would he say those things? And I told him don't.
We're never going to let you change who you are
right now.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Who you are is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I said, you just made me feel a lot better.
You made me feel so much better. Then she goes
on and she ends up, you know, talking about all
the things that women have been called, and among the
things she said was the C word, and he's like,
what's that. I'm like, oh God, here we go again,
that those videos in front of your kids. So now
my ten year old knows what that is. But the
thing is that before they get entrenched in all of this,

(56:52):
I feel like they truly start from a good place.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
So the goal for us is to keep them in
that good place, to make them understand that their thinking
is the right thinking, right, their first instinct is the
right instinct exactly.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
And the problem is is that these people that voted
for Donald Trump, and I know everyone says, oh, because
of the price of eggs, they don't understand this part,
you know what I mean. They don't understand what it
does to the kids. They don't see it as oh,
that's just locker room talk. And I don't know why
they minimize it, because then they get up in arms
about library books, right, They get up in arms about

(57:29):
things like that could be a discussion at home, Like
wait a minute, you you are up in arms about
library books that people actually have to use their brains
to read, that take time. But the thing in their
hands that they scroll through constantly, that they're being fed
a really awful message over and over and over again

(57:53):
because of the politician you elected. That doesn't bother you.
And it is literally a straight line from your president
to that social media that post that person. They make
tons of money off that. I had to literally reset

(58:17):
my social media accounts after the election because for some
reason its skewed right, Like I could not stop getting
Republican reactions to the election, and it was all like,
oh these Dems are crybabies, oh these kids, And I
was like what am I on this side of there?

(58:39):
And I just like, how to go back to cooking
and pet videos? I was like okayent, I was like, okay,
I'm bringing done.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
But yeah, Anna Marie writes as a mom and a teacher.
It's like wildfire. Kids end up hearing all of this
and then trying to process it all. She says, they
repeat it and they don't realize how hurtful it is.
I agree, And that's the thing. Don't get mad.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Teach, right, that's what you have to and teach over
and over because social media they in so many different ways,
in so many different videos, entertaining videos right where it's
your favorite, you know, YouTube or whatever, they incorporate it
over and over and over again. It's like brainwashing them.

(59:24):
And so yeah, it's it's like the skippity toilet right
like or whatever. It's all these stupid ways, but they
do it so then all of a sudden it comes
out of their mouths. Yeah, and they don't even realize it. Right,
it's so dumb. Yeah, it's crazy. They're immature, so they
need to be set right, absolutely, Louise, thank you for

(59:44):
the five dollars donation. The price of eggs must have
been mega cheap and Nazi Germany, right, yeah, Eric says Nikki.
Even the left leaning channels are skewing right. In the comments,
the trolls are flooding interesting revs is Young young men

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think Andrew Tait is not toxic. They think he's telling
them how to better themselves as men. This male masculinity.
I've mentioned him before, Professor Neil, He's on Instagram. I
really do enjoy him. I've mentioned him before if you
haven't followed him. He does this whole masculinity kind of

(01:00:28):
breakthrough thing. I really enjoy his breakdown. He does a
lot of these masculinity Oh, let's let's go down that
rabbit hole of what they actually mean. And I enjoy
his breakdown of that. I just don't, Okay, you're good.
I don't. I don't understand the pushback of like what

(01:00:53):
a what it means to be a man except in
the only thing I can think of this is what
this is? This the only thing I could think of one.
It's the incorporation of women in the workforce, right, this
whole you know, women getting into power and replacing men,
right obviously LGBTQ and that sort of thing, and then

(01:01:17):
just you know, men that are just weak just can't
handle it. I don't. I don't. I don't get it.
I just don't get it. Laurie, thank you for the
twenty dollars donation. Thank you keep up with the good
fight as long as you can. I mean, there's no option, Laurie,
especially when you have kids, not I mean even those

(01:01:39):
that don't have kids, you keep up a good fight.
But I have a son, not only and a daughter,
which I think are just it's such a good juxposition, right.
It's like I'm trying to raise a very strong woman
that won't put up with any shit, which I'm very
successful at, by the way, dear detriment a little mini

(01:02:04):
me over here. And I'm also raising a young man
that is not only able to stand up for himself,
but also like very sensitive to women like oh you know,
like that isn't threatened by a strong woman. Like there
is nothing wrong with strong men and women, and there's

(01:02:29):
nothing wrong with sensitive men and women. Right, there is
room for all of it. I just wish, you know,
we lived in a world. I just I'm just gonna
like daydream with you, Kim, And I know this is
absolutely ridiculous. Just follow me here on the whole quantum physics.

(01:02:50):
I was ship Franklin was here because he would go
down this rabbit hole with me. There is a reality
in which roles are reversed, and there is a world
in which women have been in charge. I'm not knocking
men right here, but I just I would love to
see what that world looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Is it a better world.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I'm not saying it's a better world. I just would
love to see what it would have been like. You know,
and women still birth children. I would love to see
a world that is run by by people who give
birth to children, because I think it gives a perspective

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that men not knocking men I love you, men cannot
because they don't understand. And I'm not knocking you guys,
I'm not, but I think that when you give birth
to something, there's just a perspective. There's just a perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Not now and not here. But there have been societies
in America, or not in America, but in the world
that were matriarchal instead of patriot arcle. I think maybe
Hawaii might have been a matriarchal society way back when
and entirely governed, governed by women. So there, it has
happened before it has happened. Uh, there's a I'm looking

(01:04:12):
up looking at it right now. There's a matriarchal society
governed by women in mostsuo China, in Costa Rica, the
Bribri in Costa Rica, A tribe in Kenya, a tribe
in Indonesia, some people in Ghana, some people in India.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
How is it working out for them? Probably a lot
better than it's working out for us, That's what I know.
I just I just don't want the pushback of women
in I guess that's what I'm looking for, Like, just
can we just not push back against women being in charge?
I don't know, I don't know. I love my men.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I love my men.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I'm not I'm not I love men. Don't get them wrong.
I'm just saying I would love to just see what
that reality would have looked like, right, you know, I
just did. Okay, I have other things to talk about,
by the way, uh, I did want to talk about
a little bit more about the appointments. By the way,
the DOGE thing really bothers me. The Department of Government

(01:05:12):
efficiency with with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami is so stupid. Now,
how many of you think that Donald Trump is going
to get tired of Elon Musk?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I think so absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Does anybody think that he's going to overseay welcome to
that I think Elon Musk is annoying. I think he
is very I think he's a very annoying person to
be around, and that's why his wives or his girlfriends
are not around. I think he's a very annoying person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
So here's my grand conspiracy theory. Okay, And this is
based on no proof. This is based on only my
impressions over the years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I think Putin has something on Trump, and that's why
Trump seems to cowtow to him his every whim. And
I think that Musk and Putin are in cahoots. Okay,
And I think that Trump is beholden to Musk and Putin.
Now you see what I mean. So I don't think

(01:06:12):
I don't think Trump will be allowed to get tired
of Musk. I think he has to bend a knee
to Musk. I think Trump isn't the guy in charge.
Here's a story, though, I just okay, that's what I think.
Elon Musk says he will receive no pay for his
work heading the new Department of Government Efficiency under President

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elect Trump. He wrote on x that it will require
tedious work that he expects to make a lot of enemies.
He says he'll be working with the former Republican presidential
candidate Vivek Ramaswami.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
To lead Doge DOGE.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Now here's why this is funny to me. He says
he'll receive no pay for his work. He's selflessly cutting
the US government. You know what he's doing. He doesn't
need the money because he'll be fleecing the US government,
making sure all the contracts go again, exactly, sure that
all the policies are in place that he can do

(01:07:09):
what he needs to do with other countries. So does
he think we're stupid that he's not taking the pittance
that he would get paid by the American government. No,
he's getting trust me, he's getting paid time rep.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
He makes a good point. Met Elon met with the
Iranian UN ambassador today. I think Elon is beholden because
he also owes and it's a ton of money because
remember he bought or he was in over his head
when he bought Twitter. So I think both. I don't

(01:07:45):
think Elon's a very good business man, I really don't.
I don't think Trump's a very good business man. I
think they are both beholden to people, and I think
that that's why they both kind of partnered up. I
think we don't know who's running this country, and I
think that the American people are screwed because of it.
I really do, I really really do. Yeah, Jennifer, I

(01:08:06):
think the p tapes are underage sex scandals. Who knows
what it is and is blackmailing them. I mean, remember
he put out the naked pictures of Milania on Russian.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I think that was a message, we have the tapes
and we'll use them. Get in line.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I know. This is just that, in my complete impressions,
not fact at all. This is not official news.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
I mean, but anyways, I think that's so stupid. I mean,
and then the Defense Secretary, Peter Hegseeth. Now, he is
an Army veteran. He served in the military. He has
no senior military or in national security experience. He did

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go to Princeton. He was commissioned as an infantry officer
in the Army National Guard. He did serve in Afghanistan
and a rock as well as ontonam Obey and then
he served as a Fox News host, where at one
point he said he hasn't washed his hands in ten
years because he can't see germs, So why wash his hands?

(01:09:11):
He is so icky.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
I mean, I think you're wearing a blue bracelet, make
sure you flash it at him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Don't let him the Defense secretary. I mean again, And
there's some controversial obviously things that he said I'm sure
you know about, but he doesn't believe it that women
should be in combat roles. And I did, And I'm
going to be fair with this guy. I did read
more than just the sound bite stuff he basically meant
in like things that had to deal with strength and

(01:09:41):
things like that, Like he doesn't believe that men and
women are equal when it comes to things like the
seals and stuff like that. He doesn't believe in like
old g I Jane kind of that women should serve
in combat. And he's much right, yes, right, So he
does not believe in any of that crap. He also
doesn't believe in in equality like gender people in the
military all that. So all that's out the window with him.

(01:10:04):
Uh So, yeah, I don't like the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
So what are we going back to? Don't ask, don't tell.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I have no idea what we're going to deal with
with him, you know what I mean at all? So
I don't understand Donald I don't understand Donald Trump's appointments,
which totally makes sense, right. I don't think we were
supposed to understand Donald Trump's appointments. I think that some
of them Donald Trump did because it was what he

(01:10:31):
needed to do to kind of fulfill a promise. And
then I think he also knows, you know, that's not
gonna happen, but I have to fulfill the promise. And
then he kind of he's like, well, it's not going
to be approved, but I did what I had to do,
so whatever I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Christine nom for Department of Homelands, Yeah, she said. I
was reading an article with her today and saying, I,
this is exactly the post that I wanted. So for payment,
she had to stand up there like an idiot while
he danced on stage, and in return she gets to

(01:11:05):
leave the Department of Homeland Security. The only qualification I
can see that she might have is that she knows
how to use a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
What right? What does she have to do? I mean,
are we not safe because the idiots are the what
do they say? The lunatics are leading the asylum?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Yeah? I don't particularly like Telsea Gabbard as the Director
of National Intelligence. Well, talk about a friend of Russia exactly.
I don't. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Whose side is she on?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Not ours? I just again, these are all Trump loyalists, right,
These are all Trump loyalists. It's just And then, of
course Trump made the joke about a third term, and
I'm just saying, if Trump even tries it and gets it,
we're going Obama and Whoma's younger. Trump will be at

(01:11:57):
death's door if he gets a third term, We're going Obama.
So screw you Trump. Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I mean, I guess it's you would think it would
make sense that he would do that. He's got Congress, right,
he's got the House, he's got the Senate, he's got
all the judges in his office.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Is dead, he's almost that dead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
That would require a constitutional amendment, right, and and so
every state would have to I would think that'd be
really difficult. Although if he has presidential immunity and he's
doing something while in service of America, then maybe all
he has to do is sign an executive order.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
The judges say that works for us, call it good,
and you're in charge again. I think what's gonna happen
is I mean he's gonna be I doubt he's even
gonna I don't know, I say it, but who knows.
I feel like anything can happen with this dude, But
I don't even know if he's going to be able
to finish his term. I don't think he's helping at
some dudes, honestly, I mean, come on, al.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I don't. Usually it's against my nature to hope for
still ill to befall some way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I never say that. I just don't think he's the
healthiest of people. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, that's
where we're going with that. I just don't think he's
a healthy I mean, look at him. I do not
think he loves his fast food. He doesn't walk. I've
never seen him on a bike. I mean, come on,
but you know what, things seem to fall his way.
So who the hell knows? You know what I mean,
who knows? Who knows? There is some good news that

(01:13:25):
I wanted to give. I do have good news.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
What do you have.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
That the Onion has bought Alex Jones Info Wars. He
was the best news I read all day today. I mean,
at first I thought it was an Onion's headline, and
then I was like, oh no, they actually bought info Wars.
Alex Jones was freaking pissed. They bought it with the
backing of Sandy Hook, obviously shooting victims families. Jones owes

(01:13:56):
them more than a billion dollars for the defamation Judge mens.
The purchase turns over Jones's company to the Humor website.
The plans to relaunch the info Wars platform in January
as a parody. The judge in Jones's bankruptcy case said
today that he had concerns about how the auction was
conducted and did order a hearing for next week after

(01:14:18):
complaints by lawyers for Jones and a company affiliated with it.
But as of right now, the Onion owns info Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
And they told him you got to pack your crap
and get out. Yes, he has everything over absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I absolutely love this story.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I mean, this is another one of those things where
you see bad things happen to bad people and you
don't feel so bad about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I don't. I don't feel bad about it at all.
Alex Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
You know what, well, the regular Info Wars viewers even
noticed the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
That's funny. I was thinking that Alex Jones was going
to get an appointment in Trump's freaking cap I honestly was.
I mean, I was thinking that Alex Jones was going
to get some sort of like side appointment, you know
what I mean? Like, that's how scared I And who knows,
I mean, who knows he might he might even get it.

(01:15:16):
I have no idea. Trump is so bat ass crazy
now that the info wars is gone. Who knows what's
gonna happen. I wouldn't even be surprised. I would not
even be surprised. It is absolutely crazy, it is. But
I'm glad Lady Beatrice Darth Cheeto tries anything. We the
people are going to show him. He's sadly underestimated democracy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
How are we going to show him? Are we going
to take up arms? What are we going to do?
Or is it for the first time ever, it'll be
the fleeing of Americans into Mexico rather than people from
South America into you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah, he just as Bobert for the Department of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Education, you know, if they were eliminating the Department of Education.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah, that's the thing. I've been thinking a lot about
that as well, you know, the all I keep thinking
about with the Department of Education being eliminated is f
them kids. That's all I keep thinking. Everybody's like, oh yeah,
let's get let's get rid of the Department of Education.
I guess f them kids because you know who's hurt.
Rural kids, like in the rural areas and special ed

(01:16:24):
kids are going to be hurt the most.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Yeah, Nikki, they only care that the kids are born.
They don't care what happens after the kid's born. They
don't care about the feeding of the kid, the educating
of the kid, the well being of the kid, the
health of the kid. None of that matters. Okay, it's
just have the kid, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I just I it boggles my mind the hypocrisy of
this party.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
It's just it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Have the child, have the child. And they have this
like meme where it's like the pregnant woman and it's
like your body and then the little baby inside their body.
But then lost maybes.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
I was like, just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
As a democrat, I care about the living, breathing human
on the outside, you know what I mean, Like Jesus
Lord Almighty, I just I don't get people.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
I just ridiculous, like she just said, bober for education
I have. I'm sitting here looking it up because it's
you know, it would be so outrageous, but so of
all the other things.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
And I'm like, is it true?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Does she mean? Does she mean it? Is it true?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
And I wouldn't put it past him. It's crazy again.
You can't blame us like I can't. I am. It's
not like I want to pop ofpcorn because we live
in this world altogether, like we're living in this country together.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I'm laughing with you guys because we're I my husband
made me a very strong screwdriver. You know, I'm not
like a wake up tomorrow. Yeah you know what I mean.
I'm you know, I stilf hair on my head. I'm
so you know, sleeping with my husband. But I'm telling you,
like I I go up and down a lot, and

(01:18:22):
I don't look rad piece is America spoken? And and
and that's the truth, right. I know there's still questions
about the ballots and all this sort of stuff. I
really don't want to be uh stupid, And I'm gonna
say stupid because the whole like that last election just

(01:18:45):
proves that it was stolen both Both votes in the
last election were way above Okay, so stop acting like
there was just this astronomical number of votes for Biden
and there weren't an astronomical more votes for Trump. It
was way so many people turned out in the last
election because Donald Trump was batshit crazy. Okay, so stop, Okay.

(01:19:09):
I don't know where all the voters went. I don't
know if people just stayed home. I don't know what happened.
I really don't know what happened in this last election.
I really just don't. But a lot of people decided
that a felon, a civilly convicted sexual assaulter, and basically
a liar deserved to go back to the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It's a shocker, but that's where we are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
And so fine, right, so fine.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Exactly and fine and fine. I've been trying to come
up with a T shirt that's gonna explain fine to
people besides just fine. Like I came up with some designs.
I feel like all of them just make it so
like I'm calling myself fine. But no, I just and
if anybody has any ideas for that, you can send

(01:20:08):
them to me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Ah. I just just.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
I comfort myself with the idea that I didn't vote
for him. But I lose that comfort, Kim, because again,
we live in this world together, and my children live
in the world, and I have family that lives in Kentucky.
I have family that lives in Arizona. And I don't
think that they wrap their mind around the fact that

(01:20:35):
they're not amongst the people that Donald Trump is going
to bless. You know what I mean, Like, it's not you.
He gives a crap about Sorry, it's not You're not
the rich people he's going to bless. You're not unless
you're a multi millionaire or you make it like, you know,

(01:20:59):
tons of money. And I know some people make tons
of money and they're like, yeah, done, done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
And that's what my sister was saying that, you know,
in the next few years, are people really going to
see their lives improve? Regular people who voted for Trump.
Are they going to see their lives improve? Are they
going to see their station in life somehow? Are they
going to be elevated over the races again? Are they
going to be like, are they going to see their

(01:21:27):
power return? Are they going to see more money in
their bank accounts?

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
That's what everyone wants to see the bank accounts. Is
what matters. The money matters, that's what we.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
See any of this. And so will they then become
disillusioned if they don't see the results, or do they
care about the results?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Do they just want to have to take though how long?

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Maybe they just drank the Trump kool aid and they
don't care if they get results. They just want that,
and maybe it doesn't matter, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
I our good friend Heather Common had messaged me after
I posted a video of our last show, and she's like, no,
you got it wrong, because I remember I was saying,
stop with the hope and the change. We have to
change our tactic. And she was saying, like, no, I
drank the media kool aid. It's because the media wasn't
focusing on Trump. And that's not what I was saying,
because obviously she wasn't watching the whole entire thing. It
was just a clip. What I was saying, if you

(01:22:18):
guys watch the show is we have to focus our
message like we aren't. And and I was thinking about
it because maybe I wasn't even focusing my message even
in that branch. I was giving the thing that the
Republican Party does just to kind of recap. And we
say this all the time. Is they brainwash people? We

(01:22:39):
say it, right? And I was thinking about this literally
today on the way home from work. How bad are
we at messaging? And I'm not bagging on the Democrats,
but how bad are we at messaging when we actually
have truth on our side? Yeah, and we can't get

(01:22:59):
it across us well enough to eno Americans to vote
for us. They speak wise, you know what? You know
what I am.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
They're not looking for the truth. They're not looking for
the truth. They're glombing on to trans issues and these
wedge issues that don't affect the majority of Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
But do you want to know a moment that always
rings true to me of what Donald Trump did during
the election, And it didn't have to do with trans issues.
It had to do with the economy. I remember this
moment where he was standing I don't know if it
was during some sort of press conference or what, and
it was on Fox News. It was even on Fox News.
I don't know if it was an interview, but he

(01:23:39):
was standing there and there was like a ticker right
and he was talking about how bad the economy was,
and below him was a ticker talking about how great
the dalla was like it was soaring, and he stood
there and he kept saying, the economy is terrible, okay,
the rise, and it didn't matter that the literal truth

(01:24:04):
was on a ticker below him. He lies and he
lies and he lies, and it didn't matter what was
happening around him. He stood, He stayed on message. It
doesn't matter if the house is on fire you say

(01:24:25):
it's not. You do not deviate. That is what the
Republican Party does, and we fail at that. You know
what we failed out with economy. I thought about this, Okay,
this is what we did with the economy. Okay, this
is what we did. The economy was soaring, Okay. We

(01:24:45):
always added the caveat we know people are struggling. We
always said that. You know when we failed and what
we didn't capitalize on. Kim and I just it dawned
on me, and it pisses me off that we never capitalized.
This is what we should have done. We should have
never ever kept We should have never ever said I

(01:25:09):
know people are struggling. You want to know why, because
at the exact same moment that people apparently were struggling,
the exact same year that people were struggling. You know
what people were doing. Tell me, do you remember.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Buying buying ers tour tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
And not just some people, everyone across the country was
buying Taylor Swift Country. You know what our message should
have been, Kim. I am so happy that our economy
is doing so well that the American people are able

(01:25:49):
to have a discretionary fund to buy thousand dollars concert
tickets because I know that the American people would never
put concert tickets above groceries for their children. I trust
the American people to be able to budget for their

(01:26:11):
family household. So I know the economy is doing well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
I also know that the American family is doing well
because they can buy Donald Trump's speakers exact and show
an image of how much he's charging. So I'm so
happy that the economy is doing and never waiver, never waiver,

(01:26:37):
never say anything that deviates from it. Oh well, the uh,
whatever price of something is going up that has that's
nothing to do with us. Our economy is doing well.
Our economy is doing so well that these people can
spend thousands of dollars on a discretionary fund. Discretionary spece,

(01:27:00):
entertainment spending, vacation fund spending is up. That's all we
should have said all year long.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
And don't you think so that we needed to acknowledge. No,
because you and I experienced the grocery. I just don't
think it's the president's job to fix that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
No, No, we should have never That's where we go wrong.
We always try to do that, and that's where Republicans
ever do it. Why it's not our fault that they're
being price gouged by private companies. That's not our fault.
Why should we acknowledge something that's not our fault? Right,

(01:27:43):
if they're being priced gouged by a company, until we
can fix it privately. Right, unless there's something going on
behind the scenes that we can fix, we do not
come out and acknowledge it until it's fixed. Until there
is something positive to say, we do not acknowledge it.

(01:28:04):
Republicans know that. Game always say, is I am so
happy that the American public is spending thousands of dollars
and nobody can say that they're not because every day
concert venues were filled. And I'm just gonna say it
largely with white people. Because Taylor Swift brought people all

(01:28:27):
about the nation, right, fighte me on it, tell me
it's not happening. Show images every day on the news.
That's all we fail at. We missed it, and it
happened all year, all year, all year.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I have a meme for you. You're talking about people
from other states trying to realize that they've been bamboozled.
There were red states versus blue states. This is what
won't happen if Canada, if we just all the blue
states right, like, problem solved. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
They don't want to say there, No, they're like, no,
we're not taking your I mean, we'll just go to Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
But yeah, I'm just saying, like Democrats, we're too empathetic.
We we like to be like, yay, we're doing great,
but we know no, stop with the but we know
that's not our fault. Stop acknowledging crap, that's not our fault. Stop.
That's what I think is our problem. Republicans never acknowledge things,

(01:29:37):
whether they're at fault or not. And we have the
truth on our side. We have a great message. How
did we lose?

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
We can't. You can't have people. You can't say the
truth is on our side. If people don't get the
true message. What they're hearing, no matter whether you say
it or not, what they're hearing five thousand times a
day Fox is on in the background is things suck.
Here's what we think. They're not hearing the truth. They're
hearing the spoon fed message that you know that Republicans

(01:30:10):
want them to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
But we need to be that's what I'm saying, like
and that's what I was saying last week. We need
to we need to have a more concise message. The
economy is strong. Look at all these people paying for
Taylor Swift tickets. The economy is strong. We had a
whole year of it. Look at all these people paying
for Taylor Swift tickets. The economy is strong. And there's

(01:30:31):
a prime example. They used it all the time. Look
look at the border. There's a border problem. Look at
all these people coming through the border. The borders a problem.
Look at all these people in whatever stayed in Texas.
The border is a problem. Look at all these people
at this place in Texas. The border is a problem.
That's all they did, over and over and over again
till they were nauseated, and then they kept going, we don't.

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
Do that we talk about big inspirational things. We need
to concise and we have truth on our side.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
That's the problem. The economy is good, the economy is good.
We did improve the economy, we just did know how
to sell it properly. That's what I'm talking about. I'm
not drinking any sort of kool aid. What I'm saying
is we need better marketing. We need better, more concise,
more brainwashing. We need to get a Republican brainwasher on

(01:31:28):
our say. We need more brainwashing. We do techniques.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
If you want price controls, move to Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
True, but we need a brainwasher. I'm telling you brainwashing techniques,
but truth.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
We have truth.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
We shouldn't even feel bad, Like we shouldn't even feel
bad about brainwashing people because it's brainwashing people with the truth.
Me tell you, people just need to listen to me.
Listen to me. I'm telling you. I'm just telling him,
all right, very much, Just listen to me. Just listen

(01:32:05):
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
I'm not wrong. People are agreeing with you. Break keep
it positive.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
See, I'm telling you, I'm just And again I was
thinking about this on the way home, like is this wrong? No,
it is not wrong. We have the truth on our side.
One more funny story before I let you guys go.
Did you see Oh Have you talked to Tim Seeker lately?

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I talked to him last Friday, and I'll talk.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Do you give a review about Wicked yet?

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Not yet?

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Okay, I'm just wondering. Get back to me on it.
I want to know if it's good or not. I'm
hoping it's really really good because I've never seen the play,
so okay, I want to know if Wicked is good.
But anyway, did you hear about the misprint? I did.
You've got to tell everybody though, this is great, Okay,
don't I didn't go to the site because whatever. Apparently

(01:32:52):
Mattel put out a website on the toys for Wicked.
I don't know what the whibsite actually, I'm assuming Wicked
dot com show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
The real website is wickedmovie dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
The Wicked dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That's right, don't go there, don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
This is a porn site. I just love the fact
that they didn't even bother typing it in, Like where
is quality control? Like nobody bothered to type it in once,
just once before they put it on thousands of boxes,
just once. No, nobody decided to do it. So anyways,

(01:33:32):
uh they and I love the directions. They're like, don't
go to the site and throw your boxes, return your boxes.
Everyone's going to the site. No one's returning the boxes.
It's going to be sold to the highest bidder, thank
you very much. Like nobody's following those directions. But I
thought it was really really funny. But yeah, anyways, I

(01:33:52):
thought that was a really funny story. Uh, if anyone
is seeing Wicked, apparently if you have Amazon Prime, you
could have gotten early tickets. I want to say today
or tomorrow or something like that. If you have Amazon
Prime you could go. You have to pay for the tickets,
but apparently you can try to get early tickets to
some sort of showing. But anyways, I really want to
go see it. So if anybody sees it, but let
me know if you like it. I'm and listen to

(01:34:13):
Kim because she always talks to Tim Seka and so
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Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I finished my chemikaze.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
It's gone, got a little bit left of mine, you know,
I was talking a lot today, So there you go,
all right, take care of each other. We love you.
We will see you next week. Bye bye, Niky you also,
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Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
You all so the best.

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I really get rest. You're a sous.

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Wow.

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