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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, Hello, and thank you for joining us on the
Nicki Medoro Show. I am Nicki Maduro. She is Kim McAllister,
and please make sure you hit that subscribe button and
tell all your friends about the Nicki Medoro Show. I'm waiting.
I am hearing the porn going on in the background.
Kim alister for my beverage. Yes, you have a lot
to digest, and it is going to take some beverages

(00:40):
to go over this week's news. We will get to
the debate, we will get to some local crime stories,
which I've just been also trying to digest kind of
the whiplash I'm getting in what kind of crimes police
choose to kind of go all in on, which when
we discuss it, you'll get what I mean by that.

(01:01):
But I have to start off with and we've already
seen it in the comments of the YouTube comments if
you're watching on YouTube. Yes it's happened again, fourth time.
In twenty twenty four. The CPUC has taken out its
rubber stamp and has agreed to raise rates once again.

(01:23):
RP Genie rates are going up, and I love when
they say it's six dollars, as if the rates will
only be six dollars more on our bills. It's every
time there's a rate increase, it's it's astronomical. I actually
wrote I did one of those like formal complaints on
the CPUC website, as if they give a crap right,

(01:44):
as if they care, but I did. I was like,
you can't. You can't keep doing this to people like
especially and I understand like families and everyone like that,
but I am becoming more and more aware of this
whole idea of a fixed income. I don't know where
they think people are getting this extra money. I don't

(02:05):
understand where they think people are getting even more money
four times a year like what. And I know we bitchmoned.
I did reach out to Loretta Lynch. We adore Loretta Lynch,
former CYPUC president. She always comes on and explains it
to us in layman's terms and basically agrees with us
and all of our bitchin and moanin that the CPUC

(02:26):
sucks donkey whatever. Every single time they do this to us,
and they never say no to pgn E. It makes
absolutely no sense to me at all. And I don't
understand why they keep doing it, But it's because they
can because there's nobody. There's nobody regulating pgny, Pgeni and

(02:48):
the CPUC are absolutely the same. So my husband's bringing
me a very stiff drink. This is not my Medora mule, right,
I don't know this.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's infuriating old on.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I got to figure out what I'm drinking right now.
Oh it's an old fashioned. It's an Elijah Craig barrel proof,
barrel proof. If anybody knows what that is. Elijah Craig
barrel proof, old fashions.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
My grandparents used to drink old fashions. Maybe they're coming
back into new fashion.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
My husband loves old fashions, and this is very well done.
Thank you, my love. Cheers to you, and Fpgenie and
the CPUC cheers to you. Yeah, if there was anything
I mean not not that everybody drinks alcohol that watches
the show, and to those tonight there you go, and

(03:41):
to those that do the plants, do the plants. But
you know, Fpgenie, I don't understand where they get this.
I don't know where they get off. And they're like, oh,
it has nothing to do, you know, to make some
sort of connection that we're protecting shareholder dollars and are
we stupid like they actually did, They actually think that

(04:02):
we're stupid. It just really really bothers me that they
think that we're asinine, Like we're just absolutely asinine. They
must think that we are. But anyway, so that's happening.
We really would hope to well. I reach out to Loretta.
She did not get back to me, but I did
ask her, Hey, if you want to come on next

(04:22):
week or whatever, because we're still going to be feeling it,
please do so the invitation is out there, and yeah,
so I apologize you guys, but it doesn't seem like
anybody is going to be able to stop. I actually,
on my ex account, I got a bit of a
potty mouth and I was just cussing out Newsom and
cussing out the Pgenie and cussing out the CPUC. And honestly,

(04:44):
this is what this is what gives Republicans in the
state of California absolutely the right to say, this is
the problem with California and super majorities. There is nobody
watching over you know what I mean. And I'm not
saying that if Republicans were in office at the CPUC
wouldn't be doing the same damn thing. I'm not saying that,

(05:07):
but they're going to point to Democrats and say, look,
Democrats aren't doing anything to stop it, and you guys
are in complete power.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So it's looking for it while you're talking, looking for
this story, which outraged me. Okay, so we know we
have an increase. We knew they were going to just
rubber stamp it in the California Public Utilities Commission. We
also know, because of Loretta Lynch, that all of the
members that sit on the California Public Utilities Commission have
been put there by Governor Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, right, so you could say.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
One could argue that he is responsible for the state
of our power bill. Right, And then a couple of
days ago comes this story. Governor Gavin Newsom is joining
the national fight against higher electricity bills. What he and
seven other state leaders are calling on the Securities and
Exchange Commission chair to change how utility recovery bonds are

(05:59):
now classified. They say, calling them asset backed securities defies
common sense, harms millions, and offers no clear investor protection benefit.
The bonds are used to cover costs like damage to
the electric grid from wildfires and storms. I argue this
Governor Gavin Newsom, who I like in many regards, this

(06:21):
reg one, if you cared about the state of our
power bill, then why don't you pick up your phone
and call your buddies on the CPUC.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Thank you that you appointed that you Why don't you appointed?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Why don't you appoint more people like Loretta Lynch who
will actually stand up for the consumer instead of bending
over to the PG and E and power companies exactly,
and instead of you know, giving us giving screwing all.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Of us exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
So don't don't try to say you're standing with other
state leaders to lower our power bills.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
We all see through at Powell exactly. There was this
article in the Washington Post. This is the headline, kim
rent utilities rows faster than home values for the first
time in a decade. This is new data from the
twenty twenty three American Community Survey. It also showed nearly
half of renter's household spent more than thirty percent of

(07:17):
their income on housing. So if you're spending more than
thirty percent of your income on housing and yet rent
and utilities rose faster, I mean, think about that thirty
percent is just going to rent and now you're adding
on top of that utilities. It's like, give me a
freaking break over here. We can't catch a break my
pgen ebil. Like I don't have a car payment. I

(07:39):
like not having a car payment. I really, I'm doing
everything in my power to not have a car payment.
I'm trying to instill in my fifteen almost sixteen year
old daughter, like, yo, you're gonna be sharing my car,
You're gonna have to get a job, Like put money
towards getting your own car. I don't want a car payment.
I don't want to If we get a car, I
want to pay mostly cash for it. So if we

(07:59):
do have one, my PGENE bill has turned into a
very expensive car payment, when before it was just like
any other monthly bill, like okay, I no, like you
know internet self, those sorts of things. It is becoming
an intense drain on people's budgets that they can't afford.

(08:23):
And now four times and in twenty twenty four alone,
and they're doing it with a straight effing face.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Right now, here's some of the things that I'm doing
at my house because our PGENI bill was way crazy high, right,
I I don't have bathroom privacy anyway because people always
come in. So I stopped closing the door, right except
for interesting situations, I just leave it open.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And I don't turn the light on.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So often when I use the restroom it's dark in there,
and my husband walked by the other day and goes, oh,
I do the same thing, just don't even turn the
light on, Like nope.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
There, yeah, exactly exactly. But what these kids?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, go ahead, I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Also, are you on the four to nine pm system?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think i'm four to eight.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
They say if you use.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Your appliances between four pm and nine pm that it
costs more, so if you don't, then your rates will
be lower. So I'm doing laundry at other odd times,
sometimes late at night, like really late at night, middle
of the morning kind of, or sometimes early in the morning,
but never between four pm and nine pm, which is

(09:41):
when it's most convenient for me and everyone else. So
these are a couple of things I'm doing. Also, I
don't turn the garage light on when I go out
there anymore.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
There's so many like remember what was it called the
vampire Is it the vampire energy?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Like your computer that you keep like the laptop is open.
I was sucking the power right, like you're supposed to
unplug everything the switch.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
And I'm guilty of.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Some of those, you know what I mean. But yes,
my kids, I must yell when I leave the house,
turn off the hall light. And every day I come
home from work and I sound like my dad, right,
And everybody turns into their parents like I when I
when I grow up, when I grow when i'm when
my kids grow up and I go to their house,
I'm going to turn everything some light on. Oh my god.

(10:28):
And then you realize why because but at least when I,
like I said to myself, at least when my parents
when I was a kid, they weren't paying when we
were paying. It's just but like there's a there's a
comment from Dave that I was googling, And you're absolutely right, Dave,

(10:48):
it's Jerry Brown's fault. I mean, I still think it's
Newsome's fault because he could appoint the CPUC. Yes, you
are absolutely right, Jerry Brown.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a problem, and he could have done something.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
He could have done something. But Jerry Brown in twenties
seventeen or yeah, assigned a bill in twenty eighteen, he
signed it. But this is how to do with the
twenty seventeen wildfires, allowing utilities to bill their customers to
pay for future legal settlements stemming from the twenty seventeen wildfires. Now,
while I will agree with you, Dave, we can blame

(11:18):
Jerry Brown. Newsom has been governor for a long effing time.
We are a super majority in the state of California,
and these Democrats could do something if they want to.
Stop acting like your hands are tied. Stop it. It's ridiculous.
It's excuse after excuse after excuse.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Sandy says, my apartment is only six hundred and fifty
square feet and my PG and E bills have been
one hundred and ten to one hundred and.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Twentytlive candles, candles.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's very crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I have no idea some other ones.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Laurie says.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Newsom will lose California for his twenty thirty two potus
run if he doesn't handle the CA the CPUCPG and
E collusion malfeasans before he leaves office. And I used
to like him a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Cheryl says, why are we not writing to Newsom directly?

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I do I have.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I have literally on X I've written it through his
online like mailing thing. I mean I have. I feel
I personally have. Everybody should I and we've said it
on the show many times. I don't know why every
single we're not reporters anymore. I don't know why every
single reporter and every single news story and these reporters
have PG and E bills.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is not every reporter pissed off like this?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It should be the first play, Hey Newsom, do you
pay your PG and E bill?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
What the f man is going on?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Jason says, every time I pay my PG and E bil,
I just think, dang, I pay a multiple convicted fellon
money every month. And it bumms me because PG and
E was criminally charged.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yep, right back, wildfire, absolutely exactly exactly. I just I
don't under stand what the hell's going on and I
and it's not as if Newsom doesn't know. And that's
what that's also the thing that really gets under my skin.
He hears it, you know, he and then he has
the audacity, Kim to stand up there and talk about
price gouging with oil and get ass and all this

(13:18):
kind of nonsense. Shut up you're It sounds disingenuous, you're
a liar. And I like Newssom. It sort of kills me, right,
It's like, I love California. I know that he's on
the right side of history. With so many other issues,
We've said this time and again, you suck at this, Newsom,
you suck at this.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
You've ben pay to I just in my blood's boiling.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Cheryl doesn't think that Governor Newsom has control.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Over this stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
He does. He appoints the members of the CPUC, thank you,
that's it. He does. So there you go. No, the
buck stops with him. I just I feel like Cheryl
to say that he has no control over it is
is giving him just a pass. I just do he hasrou.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
And Cheryl mentions auto insurance going up as well. That's
a different issue and being tackled by a different segment
of the California government, right, the Insurance Commission, right, and
they're working on it. But that's different than the California
Public Utilities Commission. Rubber stamping increase after increase after increase,
and PG and E gets away with everything, and it

(14:27):
is outrageous and we shouldn't stand for it.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, I mean, I was just like, I literally just
put into Google right now Newsom CPUC Right. The first
one of the first things that come up is court
rules against Newsom, says the CPUC president must disclose meetings calendar.
Over Newsome's objections, the state appeals Court ruled a watchdog

(14:52):
group was entitled to learn when Newsome's senior enterty advisor
met with utility companies in the year before the governor
appointed her as appointed her as president of the CPUC. Now,
this is a long article that I'm just reading fresh.
What my first question is, why would the governor give
a crap? Why would he not want that disclosed? This

(15:13):
is the question that I'm talking about Cheryl and others.
He appointed her president. She is the president of the CPUC.
This article came out this year, I believe, yes, yes,
in April of this year. So these are the things
that I'm talking about. It's it's a collusion, right. It
sounds like they're in bed together, which is just gross,
especially when people are having a hard freaking time paying

(15:34):
their bills. And this is a major bill. We're not
talking about driving less, we're not talking about taking public transportation.
We're talking about keeping the lights on. This is not
something that people can, you know, just be like, well,
I'm gonna send the turk all the time.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
You gotta cook your food, you gotta you know, do
all these things. And it's just Samson Newsome is just crickets.
Every time this happens, and it's the fourth time this year.
It's nuts.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's nuts.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know, man, And it feels powerless.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, like we have nothing, we can't do anything.
It's just it's it's it's insane. So I mean, between
this and home insurance policies and insurance companies leaving the state,
and it's not just California. I know, it's across the country,
but it just seems like we're getting in every different
direction and we need people on our side. And so yes,
again I have reached out to Loretta Lynch. I have

(16:28):
not heard back. If we can get her on next
week or in the future, She's always welcome on the show,
and so again we will reach out to her. But
of course it was a vote today. This is my
not shocked face, but it's my pissed off face, and
so it sucks. I did not think and I would
have literally had a shocked face if they actually didn't

(16:49):
approve it, you know what I mean, I'm like, oh
my god, I have a soul. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think I read this story.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
They're going to quote vote because you know, it's not
a vote, it's just.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Put it in a pile.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, some of them don't even some of them aren't
even on like PGENI. Some of them don't even have
a PGENE bill. Some of the members of the CPUC
do not even get their energy from PGEN. That in
and of itself, it just tells me like you're regulating
something that you don't have. You don't have any skin

(17:26):
in the game. What do you care about four rate
increases a year. You're not paying the freaking bill, right,
Like Phinny is right, Nikki Kim, did you get four
raises this year?

Speaker 6 (17:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right at all?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Obviously, right. So it's like, yeah, it's just one of
those things where no, we did not and nobody did, right,
Like I don't think I think most of us did
not get four raises this year, And it sucks, It
really really sucks. And so again, I'm sorry, guys. I
wish I was the bearer of better news, but it
didn't happen, and so again it sucks, and so hopefully

(18:00):
we'll get Lorena lynch on soon. All right, let's move on.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Oh go ahead.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I was just gonna say, I have a story for
you when you're ready.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh yeah, lay it on me, my friends.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
This is a story about a man named Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, oh, let's go take.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
A big stiff drink for this one. A Georgia judge
is dismissing two criminal counts against Trump in his election
interference case Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee, ruling that prosecutors
did not have the authority to bring those charges against
Trump related to his alleged filing false documents in a
federal court. McAfee is allowing the rest of the case

(18:38):
to move forward, including eight charges against the former president.
What two of them being tossed out? Yeah, huh for
I guess for standing.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
What do we know? What do we know about this
judge Scott McAfee.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
He think he's been the judge in the case all along?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Right, Oh okay, okay, okay, interesting, okay, thoughts, thoughts thoughts, people.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I just I when it comes to interfering with the election.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
The election that he already admitted that he lost.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
But cheating, okay, cheating when you have uh, fake electors
in the state of Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, other places. Cheating
when it comes to things done with you know, tampering
with things in the middle of the night whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Cheating.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
These these Trump people were cheating. They were trying to
cheat the American people out of their vote. It's cheating.
They're cheaters and liars.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Big old cheaters.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
They're dirty, dirty, they're despicable, and they're Unamerican because we
vote in America. We have free and fair elections in America.
And they cheated, Yes, cheated, okay, and we all know it.
So to have any of these charges thrown out I
think is horrible.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Did you do I agree with you completely?

Speaker 7 (20:01):
Um hm.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I mean the racketeering charges in the case.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
But it's just it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And so what do we know about, like do we
know anything about like was it going to reduce what
the possible sentence could be or like is this is
how how detrimental is it to any possible punishment? Do
we know that?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
They say they threw out one count of filing false
documents and one count of conspiring to file false documents,
both stemming from Trump's campaign efforts to put forward a
slate of fake GOP electors in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, I just Trump.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It is only named in the conspiracy count. So I
just feel like it's another case where all of these
charges are applicable. We all know they're applicable. And why
doesn't he face every single you know charge in the book?
Why aren't Why aren't they taking it seriously well?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
And why are they taking it seriously when again, and
we talked about this last week, he's admitted out loud,
then he knows that he lost the election. This is
the thing. All If he knows and has admitted that
he lost the election and yet still did all of
this crap, that's a problem. Like the let's you know,

(21:15):
let me just take it away from the election. You know,
when somebody claims a crime was committed and then all
these resources and police are used, that's a crime because
there's money involved and all of this other stuff that
there's a reason for that because they could have been
doing something else that they could have had their efforts
put elsewhere, but instead they're putting it towards this and

(21:38):
on top of that, what it did to this country,
what it's still doing to this country, to the fact
that there are Republicans that still to this day can't
say out loud. They'll say like this, They'll be like, oh,
we all know that Joe Biden's the president, but they
can still not say Donald Trump lost the election.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I saw something about it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's so stupid. It's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I saw a video. It was just a YouTube video,
so I wouldn't source it, you know, here, or reported
as news or anything, but I thought that the premise
was interesting. We heard at the debate. Trump was asked,
you said that you lost it by a whisker. You
said that, you know, he came so close or whatever

(22:23):
the three things he recently said where he slipped up
and admitted that he lost three different times. Right, I
lost it by a whisker type of thing. And he
was asked at the debate, are you now admitting that
you did indeed lose the election, and Trump indignantly said, no,
I was being sarcastic. I didn't lose the election, no way.

(22:45):
And I saw this video saying that person making the
video again not a bonafide news source.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay, but the.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Thought that they shared was that he can't say that
he lost now because of all these legal cases pending
against him. Of course, that if he admits now publicly
and officially that he did lose.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
The election, but he did already.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
If he but if he if he had admitted it
at the debate, if he said something like.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Why does the debate stage matter but a press conference
doesn't matter?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Like what's the difference there?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, I guess you could.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
You could argue at a press conference or at a
rally I was being sarcastic to the people.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Making statement.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think so too. But if he specifically asked at
this debate for a serious and real answer, right by
a journalist, there's probably more of a of a chance
that that gets used against him in a court of law.
And so when you're talking about, you know, not accepting

(23:50):
the results of an election, when you're talking about subverting
an election, and all of these court cases that were launched,
I just feel like, maybe I don't know if that's
the reason, if they're smart enough to know that's why
he can't admit it or not. But this woman was
saying he can't admit it. Now it's too late. Now
now now it's a legal matter.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I just that's disagree. I understand what you're saying, and
I agree with you like I feel like on the
debate stage because of the I would say more it's
the eyes watching more than the legality of it. I
don't agree that if we went to court, like for instance,
if I was, you know, prosecuting Trump and I showed
the press conference in which nobody's asking him, him on

(24:33):
his own accord, is saying it like serious, No one's laughing.
It's not a rally. You're not joking. There's no laugh track,
there's no clapping you on your own accord, are saying
I lost by a whisker. Whatever you say, right, you're
of yours, nobody, and you're not flat. There's no physical,

(24:54):
uh universal sign of a joke, right you're saying it. Yeah, okay,
I think that would hold up in court just as
much as the debate. You know, of him using the
debate as a defense like I'm sorry, And it's not
only that he said it repeatedly. This is why I
wish And even though I think David Muir was trying
to fact check and we'll get into that whole thing, right,

(25:18):
And people are like, oh, they were just totally fact
checking Donald Trump and not fact checking Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Well, donald Trump lies all the time.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So there's a reason why we have to fact check
Donald Trump all the time. But I just feel like
Donald Trump has admitted, not just once, not just twy,
numerous occasions on his own that he lost the election,
and for Republicans to say, oh, there's it was questionable,

(25:46):
and then and then the failing, the failing of people
to say, but only the presidential election, just the presidential race,
none of the other ones, none of the other none
of the down ballots that make actual more of a
difference when we're talking about control of Congress, Like, if
we were gonna steal the Fing election, don't you think

(26:09):
we'd want it buy more than one fing vote, which
is the vice president. Don't you think if we were
really in for it, like why not go for two, three,
four something? You know what I mean? Like it doesn't
make sense because we didn't do it. And I'm using
we as the Democratic Party right because it's nonsense. It's nonsense,

(26:29):
and it just it pisses me off because people, let's
just say half the country that are Republicans whatever, they
buy this nonsense hook line and sinker like. I want
to play you this video of this woman and again,
and she's emblematic of what's wrong with Trump supporters.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
And I want you to listen to her whole answer.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Because and we've talked about this many times, it's like
these people are like, oh my god, this country's going
to hell in a handbasket as they go on cruises
and buy Taylor Swift tickets and live in million dollar houses, right,
and and this idea that life is so hard and
yet they're living so good. Okay. And I'm not saying

(27:12):
that Times on Top, I was just bitching about my
PG evil. I'm not saying that everything is always hunky dory.
But give me an effing breakover here. Okay, here's this
woman tell me.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
About if if Donald Trump does not win, what do
you what do you do?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I hope that I'm gonna die. I hope something Donald
Trump doesn't win.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I don't want to live like this anymore. You like
our country the way it.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I I mean, this doesn't really matter what I think.
But you've got a pretty good life.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
You got you got nice clothes on, you got Hannah
and sunglasses, you got your health.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I mean the country has done pretty well by you, right, No, the.

Speaker 10 (27:48):
Country hasn't done anything by me. I've done everything for myself.
My husband and I took care of ourselves as we
grew older. Now when we when we got ready to retire,
we took we had planned what we were.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Going to do.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now, what is the country doing for me? Now?

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Do I get any interest on anything that I put away?

Speaker 8 (28:05):
And say, well, your money is safe, right, I wouldn't
say that you got access to healthcare.

Speaker 10 (28:11):
I have access to health care because my husband served
twenty years in the military.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So the military did something for your family. Military is trustworthy, right,
And I.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Just want to pause here and the fact that and
I'm not knocking the military or military families when I
say this, but again, like her husband served and she
benefits from that, right and so and when you serve
in the military, you serve under all the administrations.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So whether it is a Republican or a Democratic president,
you don't get to pick and choose which military service
gives you the benefits in which you now get to
benefit from.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, military health care system is great.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
No, I wouldn't say it's great.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
We were promised free health care for our whole life,
but that did not happen.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
What is it that is so bad about where America
is or where you are right now with America that
you would want to die if Donald Trump doesn't win.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
I just don't want to live in a country that
is screwed up as this one. That people are so
out of control and that they think that everything, that
they're entitled to everything.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
She doesn't even like realized what she just said. That
people feel like they're so entitled to everything, and yet
her whole entire statement is that she should be entitled
to everything. But it's just it's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's just she's not a big thinker. Okay, she's not
a big thinker. I don't know, man, I'm today by hypocrites,
hypocrites online.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I'm having a really hard time.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I was telling Mark earlier online on Facebook, on social media,
just scrolling past because you feel like somehow responsible to
be part of a conversation to let people know, you know,
have someone speak up and speak up against the lies,
to show that there is some type of reasonable rack thinking.

(30:01):
But then you realize look here trying to have a
conversation with these people drank the kool aid. Their mine
checked out a while ago. It's that lady. There is
nothing you can say to her. She wants to die.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
She wants to die like that is. And she said
that out loud into a microphone and a camera like
that's a sickness. That is cultish behavior. Dave says, you
have nice roads, clean water, food that's not poisonous, and
you go to where the flag is a jacket like
a total nerd. And not only that, Dave, what I've
also learned from my husband many many times, and he's

(30:34):
informed me because he's military and military family actually, and
she should know better. Yeah, you're not supposed to wear
anything with a flag as clothing, so she should know better.
She should absolutely know better.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
So you've I've told you this before, but we my family,
everybody takes a holiday and mine is the fourth of
July because I have the pool, and so I bought
one time my husband a pair of swim trunks that
like you know, stripes on one side and stars on
the other.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
He was a former marine.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
He looked at me and he goes, I am not
wearing not wearing that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Goes you don't wear the flag. That is not something
we do. It's against the rules. Don't do it, not
having it. And I go, it's not the flag though
it's like it's based on the flag, but it's not
technically the flag.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
He enough, No, okay, same thing.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I did the same thing about like a and I've
worn it before.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's a gray shirt and it kind of it has
like a hand with a piece and it has just
behind it, like just kind of the look of a flag.
And I was gonna buy one to match my husband,
and he's like, I don't want one. It wasn't that
he thought I was wearing the flat. They just didn't
want one. I wear it, But you know, I get
what so I would never buy that, But yeah, I
get it.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I thought maybe because he does he barbecues on the
fourth of July, and maybe I buy him a little
apron that has a little flag on it.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, no, no, don't wear the flag.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You don't wear it. You don't wear it as clothing exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
If you're patriotic, which apparently you know.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Shit the military woman that her husband served, who's not
getting enough from this country because she's done it whatever
isn't getting enough. But that's fine, all.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Right, So let's get into the debate now.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I will say there was this funny video and I'm
sorry I don't have it, and I should have brought
it up because I'm just thinking about it right now.
Wanda Sykes, you know who Wanda sex is. Oh yeah, yeah,
give me a me and she pointed out this videos.
Let me see if I can get it really quickly.
So she pointed out that there was this moment during
the debate in which Kamala Harris cussed okay, which she

(32:36):
joined the debate, but she didn't you see this video.
I have it. I have it. I have it. Okay,
are you ready for I used to have it. This
here is Wanda Syson pointing out the pointing out the
moment in which Kamala Harris called Trump we've all wanted
to call him.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
I keep thinking about that debate, and the thing that
stayed with me is how she was able to call
him a motherfucker, him a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
That was that was genius.

Speaker 11 (33:08):
Just a look and we all heard it, well she said,
and this.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Former president, we all heard it.

Speaker 11 (33:18):
We all heard her call him a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's like so true.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
And I didn't even like until she like but it.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I was like, oh yeah, she totally did. She absolutely did.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh you're muted. I know you have. If you touch
your microphone it goes hey wire, here you go.

Speaker 12 (33:43):
OK.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I'm the thing is in Paris from the moment
she got on stage with that handshake to control the
whole entire.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Thing absolutely at first, what did.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
You think of the handshake? Because at first I was like,
is this Emma fr not going to meet her in
the middle and he didn't. I don't know if it
was because she was like I Am not going to
let him like take control. But what did you think
of that handshake? Because I was like, she is not,
She's going to take control of it. Come like you are,
I'm going to take control of his handshake?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, it was it was clear that he walked like
way behind the podium, off like he was trying to
get away from her, and so that she just walked
right up and said, you know, Kamala Harris. I think
it threw him off his game. I think it also
kind of emasculated him to the point where the following day,
on September eleventh, when Trump and Harris were at the

(34:40):
the nine to eleven memorial together or at the service
the ceremony. They shook hands and I don't know, there's
someone standing in front, but you can see that that
Trump pulls this thing where yanks on her arm. Right,
he's not moving and she's not, and she kind of
pulls it back a little bit. Yeah, it's almost like
he realized that that whole handshake thing kind of played

(35:03):
with his mind and he needed to do his whole
one upmanship thing.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah. It was bad.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, and she wasn't gonna move in because he does
that all the time where he tries to bring someone
to him and she's not moving. She's like, I am
not moving because she had to be told. Like she
was talking to Chuck Schumer at the time during the
nine to eleven ceremony and someone's like, oh, because they hadn't.
I didn't realize that they hadn't actually like really met
that much before. And so she's like Donald Trump's here,
and she's gracious. I mean, obviously you want to be cool.

(35:30):
You know, all the cameras are on you whatever as
they shook hands and all that. But you could totally
see Donald making that just that move right away, and
she's not moving.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
She's like, you can pull my arm all you want.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I am just shaking your hand and these heels are
staying right here.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Did it around like her husband was right there. It
was a show of weird like male dominance, and it
was it doesn't play well with the woman.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm not saying that. I like when someone I.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Don't like when a man will shake your hand and
they kind of grab your hand like you're.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Like you're diligent. Oh no, I hate that.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
It's like a limp wristed thing because you're a woman.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
If you don't shake my handshake, Yeah, if you don't
shake my hand properly, I think less of you. I've
said this many times because I'm a firm handshaker, like
I grip your hand. I am a firm handshaker because
I vividly remember my dad teaching me how to shake
hands when I was a kid, Like he taught me
and my brother how to shake.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Hands, and someone in the eye firm and firm handshake.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I've even had people mentioned like you've got a firm hand,
and I go yes. And so if a man is
weak and maybe they're weak because of what you just said,
Like they think I'm a delicate flower or some nonsense.
Kay uh, I think they're the delicate flower. I go, oh,
unfortunate for you. Like what are you doing? What are
you doing that? Like I judge, I have judged you instantly,

(36:57):
so Laurie teacher Laura says, and I have to I
have to pay attention. Now, apparently Trump has learned how
to say Kamala. I did not realize this. Has he
learned how to say her name properly? Now that's good.
Maybe he has minions will learn how to say says.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
It part of the time and part of the time
he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, well we have to get into now. I'm going
to play you two clips, my two favorite clips.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I know there's many many clips from the debate. I'm
not going to play them all because obviously we're two
days out, so I'm not going to play them all.
Obviously the funniest one from Donald Trump. Okay, this is
the problem with Donald Trump and his presidency and just
his existence in politics is that the bar does not
exist for him. If it was literally anybody else, anybody else,

(37:45):
and they had the audacity to say this on National
if not international television. It would never be considered to
be president, but apparently you can if you're Donald.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of
the people that live there.

Speaker 13 (38:10):
ABCDS did reach out to the city manager there. He
told us there have been no credible reports of specific
claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals
within the immigrant community.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
All I've seen people intelligence.

Speaker 13 (38:21):
Let me just say here, this is the people on
television certain my dog was taken and used for food. Again,
the Springfield city manager says, there's no evidence of that.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Vice.

Speaker 13 (38:30):
I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've
heard talk about stream Spring.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay, it's it's racist, it's this is not the first
time that that people are othered for their food choices, right, so,
and honestly, it's not just Haitians like you've heard the
stereotypes of other ethnicities. Oh, they eat animals, they eat
animals that we consider pets. Okay, we've all heard it,

(38:57):
and I'm not just going to go into it here. Okay,
Mary and Williamson literally just tweeted out, but Haitians do
do voodoo things with cats and dogs. This is absolutely
a racist lie. And then jdie Vance doubles down on it.
It's okay because now we're talking about border issues. It's

(39:19):
not okay because apparently this whole entire thing came from
like either a next door or a Facebook post of
a person of a person who heard it from something.
It's not okay because actual Haitian residents who live there
are now getting harassed, you know, maybe even something more
violent against them because a former president of the United

(39:41):
States is saying this on national television. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I will have you know that they know it's a lie,
and it's one you know it's lie. They're going to
keep saying it because somehow they feel it gives them traction.
And the more they say it, and they've got us
all talking about it, right, the more the people hear it,
the more the people and they know it's not true.
Once again, they are lying to people.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
In the toxic political climate of our times. This is
a wild claim. Republican vice presidential candidate jd Vance, who
has railed about a large influx of Haitian immigrants into
the rather middle sized town of Springfield, Ohio posted reports
now show that people have had their pets abducted and
eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. And

(40:27):
this claim, which focuses on kittens and ducks, has exploded
in the far right echo chamber, amplified by the Trump campaign,
conservative commentator Senator Ted Cruz, Donald Trump Junior, Elon Musk,
and more. They are saying and or implying, if you
elect Vice President Kamala Harris, her immigration policies will put

(40:48):
your pets at risk. But to be clear, this allegation
against these immigrants is patently false, a far right fever
dream which could easily prey upon resistant xenophobic fears. According
to Springfield city officials, there is no foundation for any
of this. In a statement, they said, we wish to

(41:09):
clarify that there have been no credible reports or specific
claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals
within the immigrant community. Additionally, there have been no verified
instances of immigrants engaging in illegal activities such as squatting
or littering in front of residence homes. Furthermore, no reports

(41:31):
have been made regarding members of the immigrant community deliberately
disrupting traffic. Yet, when CNN asked Vance's office why he
is pushing such a blatant lie, they said Senator Vance
has received a high volume of calls and emails over
the past several weeks from concerns citizens in Springfield. His

(41:51):
tweet is based on what he is hearing from them.
But again, there is no truth to what he is hearing,
and that is easy to check.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I mean, they could just say and that's the thing
they're like. I've heard people say, what's and that's not enough.
You can't just because there are legal people Haitian people
that live in America that have to deal with this
nonsense now because a former president and the vice presidential

(42:24):
candidate have decided that they're worth the sacrifice, They're worth
the sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Sure, we're just.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Gonna make up some nonsense because it gets people talking,
and we'll do the memes. They don't care about you.
They don't care about you. Your skin color is the
wrong color, and I don't care about saying it like that.
It doesn't matter your Haitian. You look like immigrants, so
it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're an American citizen,
if you're Haitian. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
They I'm actually calling them Kamala immigrants because they're from Haiti.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Crazy so nuts and then oh it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I have to tell you that jd.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Vance, who is a candidate to be the Vice president
of the United States, is acknowledging this week that it's
possible that this is a false claim the whole eating
of the Petsy thing, but he still encouraged his followers
to post cat memes to continue to tweet about this.
He said, it's possible these rumors will turn out to

(43:23):
be false. You yeah, and then he goes on and on.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean, it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Rh but he doesn't care because now we're talking about
the border and Kamala's immigrants and all that sort of stuff,
And so it doesn't matter that people who actually live
in this area have to deal with the consequences of this,
because you know, nutsos, which are magannuts, right, are going
to do something to anyone that even looks Haitian. It's

(43:49):
the only they even know, like go find Haiti on
a map, like you know what I mean, Like that's
what we're dealing with here. So they don't care. You
look Haitian. You if if you're walking your dog, you
stole that dog, you're gonna eat that, you can hear
how it can go bad. That's what we're dealing with.
They don't they don't understand how politics have gotten violent

(44:12):
in this country, and they should, given the fact of
what we have seen in recent years. And that's the problem.
That the stances that these Republicans have taken have consequences,
and they can go so bad. And so I want
to play a saying of a actual educated answer during

(44:33):
the debate, and I loved it. And that was Kamala
Harris's response regarding Roe v. Wade, and I thought it
was eloquent and it made sense and it should reach
across to Middle America, even to those who are quote
unquote pro life, because I think that she I love

(44:53):
what she said because it was like, this is not
what they wanted, and I just love what she said.
Listen that Vice President want to get your response to
your President Trump.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch
of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact. Let's
understand how we got here. Donald Trump hand selected three
members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention
that they would undo the protections.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Of Roe v.

Speaker 7 (45:17):
Wade, and they did exactly as he intended. And now
in over twenty states there are Trump abortion bands which
make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide healthcare.
In one state it provides prison for life. Trump abortion
bands that make no exception even for rape and.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Incest, which understand what that means.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
A survivor of a crime of violation to their body
does not have the right to make a decision about
what happens to their body next. That is immoral, and
one does not have to abandon their faith well deeply
held beliefs to agree. The government and Donald Trump certainly
should not be telling a woman what to do with

(46:03):
her body. I have talked with women around our country.
You want to talk about this is what people wanted.
Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term,
suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency
room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go
to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in

(46:24):
the parking lot. She didn't want that, her husband didn't
want that. A twelve or thirteen year old survivor of
incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
They don't want that.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
And I've pledged to you when Congress passes a bill
to put back in place the protections of Roe V.
Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly
sign it in to law. But understand, if Donald Trump
were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion band.
Understand in his Project twenty twenty five, there would be

(46:59):
a notional abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies,
your miscarriages.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I think the American people.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
Believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make
decisions about one's own body, should not be made by
the government.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I loved it. I thought that was the best response.
That was the response that Biden could not give. And
that's why she's, you know, the presidential nominee. And and
that's and that was that was the moment I think
that she won that debate. I mean, in my opinion,
that was that was the winning was winning.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
He said the asinine, ridiculous, non true statement about babies
being born and then aborded post. First of all, that
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
No.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Second of all, we all know that's not law. Third,
we all know that doesn't happen. Right, I go back
to what Pete Budah Judge says, Right, I mean, your
baby has a name and a onesie and the dresser
and a crib being set up.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Come on, that's ridiculous. This is so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I wish she would have hit that harder, like actually
called out that lie harder.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
But when you talk about lies and the.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Fact checking that went on, there are a lot of
people that are calling foul on the fact checking, all right,
saying he got fact checked five times and she didn't
get fact checked at all, and that her claims about
unemployment were incorrect. But here's the thing about that. They
could anticipate every single lie he was going to tell.

(48:39):
They had done the research and called the city manager
for Springfield already. They knew that coming, They knew those lies,
and they were ready for them. When you have a
candidate like Kamala Harris who isn't known for lying, right,
who maybe maybe I don't know, makes a mistake or

(49:00):
you know, the number.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Or spins spins it. Yeah, I mean you could take
numbers of her. If you're going to take numbers as lies,
as far as that. I mean, that's one thing. Saying
they're eating cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio when there's
not one police report that that's happening. Is a Clayton lie.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
If Kamala Harris had a lie that she consistently told.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It, rallies, yeah, exactly, that they expected to come up.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
They could see it coming and they would have fact
checked her. But the fact is that Kamala Harris is
not the liar on the stage, so it would make
perfect sense to me that they would focus their fact
checking on him and not her.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I loved this meme. Bette Midler put this on after
the debate. Woman kills baby live on stage seventy eight
years after this birth. It was the only late late
term one that ever happened live on stage, which I
just thought was absolutely the winning meme of the night.
Jennifer says, there's something so impactful about hearing that response

(50:02):
given by a woman. A man could have said the
same things, but for me, it just would not have
carried the same force and authenticity. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I mean, look, I.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Understand people saying that this whole idea of liking somebody,
and I just feel like there's just so much more
weight when it's the first woman president.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Like I was literally just talking to my friend yesterday
and we were talking about something with our daughters. But
I was saying, like, women have it in them, and
it's something that I think is instilled in us oftentimes,
whether there's a job interview or anything where we have
to tick ninety percent, if not one hundred percent of boxes,
whether it's a job interview or whatever, before we even

(50:43):
put our foot in the door, right, Like, ah, men
will go and it's like they have forty percent. I'm
going for it, you know. It's just this pressure that
we either internally put on ourselves or society puts on ourselves,
and it's ridiculous, right, But men don't. And I was
working with a woman and she's like, I always ask
myself whenever I'm afraid of something, what would a mediocre

(51:03):
white man do? And then I just go do it?
And I'm not trying to like knock white men here
when I say that. She's like, but white men, if
not just men in general, they just go for it, right,
She's like, I want that mentality, like just what would
a mediocre man do? Like they would just go for it,
and sometimes they get it and sometimes they don't, but

(51:24):
it's that mentality, like women need to have it. And
So whether you like Kamala Harris, whether she checks every
single box for you, whatever, but Donald Trump was president
of the United States, completely unqualified, bad as crazy, and

(51:44):
serve for four freaking years and is trying again. So
if that mediocre white man can do it, Kamala Harris
should be able to be in the White House.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Like, one of the things I love what she said,
and she said it repeatedly, is that it's time to
turn the page, which I thought was pretty cool, especially
since she's part of the current administration, right, but it
was a way to distance herself from everything and everyone
and to be her own person. And when she said it,

(52:16):
you look at him like he was ancient, and you
remembered he already got four years. And remember that's why
we voted for President Biden because we didn't want to
go back to that. So in case you forgot time
to turn the page, Oh yeah, yeah, it's interesting you
talked about, though, how women have to be twice as
good because I saw something I think it was on

(52:37):
MSNBC about debate prep and how Kamala could beat him.
This was before the debate, and the guest on MSNBC
was a man of color, and he said, there's a
generation of people, of black people, and of women who
were told that in order for you to succeed in
this world, you've got to be twice as good as

(52:58):
anybody else. And he said, she is of this generation,
and she knows she has to be twice as good.
She has to put in twice the work. She has
to rise to this challenge in ways that he never.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Will have to do. And it was true.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
It was true because he got a pass on so
many things. As Eric says, if they were really going
to fact check, they would have stopped him after every
word out of his mouth, exactly. He got away with
a lot of stuff there.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, it's the whole Dei thing. It's the whole deioh.
She's a Dei higher. It's this that it's as if
all of her years of experience, right, I mean, look
at how and even look, oh, she must have been
fed the answers. It's not that she's educated, well spoken,
just better than Trump. She must have been fed the answers.

(53:47):
They can't give her, you know anything. It has to
be cheating. How could she be so good? She must
have cheated, you know what I mean, it's always that,
it's always that, and it's such bs so they can
say she was I saw this one. Oh did you
see the earring that she was wearing. Fit all the answers.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I thought it was a secret spy pearl earrings.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
President Legitimately, these are what this is what people think,
the crazies that President Obama was backstage and he was
feeding her all the answers, because apparently he would have
had all the answers, thank you, thank you, So now
you're so not only you know, was he feeding her
the answers? But I guess maybe because she's a woman,

(54:31):
she needed someone to feed her. The answers, Yeah, just
were from Tiffany. They were not spy earrings. This asine
And it was like, it's just it's this republicany thing.
It's this Nope, I'm not going to say it's a
Republican anything. I'm going to say it's a trumpy thing.
Because I think there's a difference that when you lose,
you blame others.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
When you lose because you know.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
You're a cheater, you say they're cheating, and so that's
the only way instead of having good sportsmanship about it,
the only way they could tolerate lock in a way
the loser of that debate was to somehow blame someone
else or say someone else cheated and say it wasn't
a legit win. And it's the same thing they're going
to do when she walks away as the president of

(55:16):
the United States. Exactly, they're going to level all these
claims that really Trump probably.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Did exactly, oh God, planned.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
To do, and that Kamala Harris had nothing to do
with well.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
And again, if Trump tries to pull the same thing
he pulled in twenty twenty with the whole election thing,
it's it's bs. It's totally stupid. I think we're going
to be exhausted from it. And again, the other thing
that during the debate that people were talking about, I
don't have the clip of them saying it, but it
was like the concept of a plan regarding healthcare, which
is what I've always bitched and moan about with the

(55:49):
Republican Party the first time around, Repeal and replace. Repeal
and replace. I found this video. I think it's the
Washington Post that put it together. Let's just remind you
if you ever have a under family member that posts
the meme. Why would I give Kamala Harris a promotion
when she doesn't have when she hasn't done anything in
the past four years, even though she just vice president,

(56:10):
she's not president. I want you to share this video
with them because this person was actually president.

Speaker 14 (56:18):
I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
You're going to have to get rid of Obamacare. I
think you'll probably have to scrap.

Speaker 15 (56:25):
The whole thing. Obamacare has to be changed, repeal, and
replaced with something terrific. I will ask Congress to convene
a special session so we can repeal and replace really terrific.

Speaker 8 (56:38):
I believe healthcare plan coming out.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
We have two plans coming out.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
We're going to come up with a healthcare plan.

Speaker 14 (56:45):
We're not going to vote on it till after the election.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
The plan is coming out over the next four weeks.
We already have the concept of the plan.

Speaker 15 (56:52):
We'll be announcing that in about two months, maybe less.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
We're signing a healthcare plan within two weeks.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It's just about completed now.

Speaker 16 (57:00):
It is developed. It is fully developed.

Speaker 15 (57:02):
It's going to be announced very soon.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
We're going to give you great health care. That's what
we're going to give you. And I'm not saying anything
about Obama. If maybe we'll make it better, maybe we'll
change it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
We still do not have a plan.

Speaker 15 (57:14):
I have concepts of a plan.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I'm not president right now.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
They never had a plan. They've never had a plan,
because it's hard. Obamacare could be improved. Everything can always
be improved. But it's hard because they can because Republican
Republicans don't want to work on it, right, they don't,
They don't ever want to work on it. They need
to get insurance. I think really out of it in

(57:40):
all honesty, I think we just need to have single pair.
That's my whole thing. But again, Republicans will never never
give you better health care ever, So just stop already,
just stop it. He's full of crap. Concept of a plan. No,
he has no concept of a plan. He never has
to say, never will what I.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Was thinking of?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
And you, as you mentioned, you know how Kamala Harris
is being blamed for. If you know you've been there
for three and a half years, why haven't you done
it already? Well ask the same question of Trump, then, right,
is everything that you accomplished or didn't accomplish Mike Penci's fault, right.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Who's the president?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Who's the president?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Who's responsible? Kamala Harris is not responsible for things done
in Joe Biden's administration, just like Mike Pence isn't responsible.
Complicit maybe, but not responsible or things done in the
Trump administration exactly. I mean, it just it's it's ridiculous
to blame one one person for the fact that it

(58:43):
was and it wasn't even their job.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, I found that video if you want to see it.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
By the way, it's well, yeah, do you have it ready?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I do?

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Here it is, okay, here we.

Speaker 15 (58:52):
Go, Okay during our discussion now is Michael lercdyes and
Distinguished Professor of African American Studies and Ethics at Vanderbilt University.
He is the co author of the new book represent
The Unfinished Fight for the Vote. Michael, to Mike Barnacle's question,
how did we get here? One of the places we're

(59:16):
at is this world of the double standard. There's going
to be a standard for Donald Trump tomorrow night, and
there's going to be a standard for Kamala Harris tomorrow night.
We know Kamala Harris standard is going to have to
be perfection. We know Donald Trump's standard is something else.
We've had double standards in this country for a long time,

(59:38):
don't we have.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
And that's a brilliant way you set it up, because
it's deeply entrenched. There's nothing new to Kamala Harris. You know,
as an African American boy growing up born under the
wing of Jim Crow in Detroit, Michigan, it was battered
into my brain that you have to be twice as good.
I know that's an old chivalous to some and it's
an old to others, but it is true that a

(01:00:02):
certain generation of black people felt we've got to outperform
just to get half the consideration. So Kamala Harrison knows
already that we're grading Trump on a curve, and we're
grading them, you know, with a great dispensation of grace
and mercy. And oh, that's just she has to be
held to a higher standard. She won't complain, she won't

(01:00:23):
belly ache, she'll perform, and that's the best way to
beat these folk who engage in that kind of unspoken privilege.

Speaker 17 (01:00:30):
You've been in various debate form formats and different kinds
of academic challenges over the years that are much more
sophisticated than this kind of thing. But how is just
as a student of rhetoric, how is one and a
master of it? But how does one confront rhetorically pathological lying.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Yeah, that's a great point. The thing is she gave
a bit of a hint when on an interview on
another the station when she was asked about mister Trump,
and she said, same old tired playbook, next question. Now,
I think at this point she can also illustrate to
the nation how nvidious, how hateful his rhetoric is. So

(01:01:14):
she's got to engage a little bit to say, this
is the worst aspect of our American soul. This is
not what Lincoln would call the better angels of our nature.
So first she shows that she's a master of rhetoric
in the way that Donald Trump could never dream to be,
and then she uses it to dispose of his arguments
which are faulty. And then thirdly she reminds people there

(01:01:35):
is a huge difference between this man with his criockety
logic that is desultory jumping from subject to subject and me,
I'm going to stay steady and do what I do
I think at that level, the pathological line will continue,
but it won't affect her in the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Same way exactly. I mean, I think that's so well.
She did all that right, exactly exactly worth watching. Yeah, absolutely,
And that's the thing. It's like, on one hand, you know,
it's unfair that she has to do all of those things,
but because she does, it really shines a light on
just how bad Trump is at it, you know. And

(01:02:11):
I hope we get to a point where she doesn't
have to do that, or people of color or that
just aren't that Donald Trump type person that they get
the pass. But I also do think Kim that like
Donald Trump is in a class of his own, you know,
and I think that we don't. I hope this doesn't
breed another generation of Trump. I hope that the Republican

(01:02:32):
Party and other parties that we're not just gonna have
it's not cutting the head off the snake and another
one pop. I really really hope. But he's been traveling
with some really questionable people. Did you see that he's
traveling with like Laura Lumer in his plane, particularly, she's
badass crazy. Did you see did you hear what about I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Am afraid someone's going to eat her for dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Did you hear what she said about Kamala Harris though,
that that if Kamala Harris gets elected president, that the
White House and I apologize, the White House is gonna
smell like curry, and that the White House Trust Conference
is going to be like hell at the call center
and no one is going to know what anyone saying.
She is such a racist, a hole, Yes, even Mark.

(01:03:18):
She is so bad that even Marjorie Taylor Green is
speaking out against But I think that Mark Taylor. But okay,
if I could just put my gossip hat on right now,
do you think that Donald Trump is out an affair
with Laura Lumer?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Who isn't he having an affair with?

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
But I'm just saying, why is Laura Lumer hanging out
with Donald Trump? And then and then like, okay, I'm
just gonna gossip right here, this terrible gossip or whatever.
And then somebody posted a picture with Donald Trump and
I don't know if he always wore his wedding ring,
but he wasn't. And then he was like stroke in
the back of Laura Lumor and Malanie is all the
way across the other country, does not want to be
seen with Donald Trump, although she did put out that video.

(01:03:55):
What did we think of the video? By the way,
the I want some need to investigate the assassination attempt
of my husband. What did we think of this video?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Are you going to show it to us?

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yes, I'm going to show it to you. I'm going
to show it to you. But I really don't like
the video. And the only reason that I don't like
the video is because of how it ends, which I
think is just really cocky and and really really gross.
But here we go, you guys, let me know what
eating of it.

Speaker 16 (01:04:20):
The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible,
distressing experience. Now the silence around it feels heavy. I
can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials arresse
the shooter before the speech. There is definitely more to

(01:04:42):
this story and we need to uncover the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Buy my book?

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Why are you showing your book?

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Is that weird?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I mean really weird showing your book?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
And okay, it doesn't sound like wild. It doesn't sound okay, Okay,
I'm and I always have to preface whenever we talk
about this. I don't like to go down the conspiracy
rabbit hole. I literally was having a conversation with somebody
and this past weekend and they try to like have
a conversation about the conspiracy rabbit hole, And all I
keep telling myself is somebody lost their lives. Like I

(01:05:19):
just I don't. I don't like it because it's gross,
So on that side, Okay, but this is this is
the now I'm just gonna put on my Melania hat. Okay,
but even Malania hat, and this is the hat of
I don't like my husband not saying that she's part
of the anything to do with the assassination attempt. That
is not a woman that gives two licks about finding
out why somebody tried to kill her husband. Sorry, didn't

(01:05:44):
at all. She wanted to her book. I want to
sell my book. Like all I care about is why
why are questions not being asked? Okay, Like that's it.
Like there wasn't there wasn't an image of my husband.
There wasn't anything really like moving about this video. You
would have thought there would have been, like even the
image of my husband, like with the whole fake fight

(01:06:07):
song whatever, you know what I mean, like something moving.
It was just her stoic not even a family portrait,
not even an image of her like upset about hearing
the like there was nothing that would have told me
that she was even married to the man. No, just
the most boring ACME video picture of a book that

(01:06:28):
I've ever seen in my entire life. Milania book. Read
that's it, like, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
This says Malania is going to vote for Kamala. Let's
not forget. Let's not forget. And I always go back
to this that during the time when Trump was involved
in the whole birther movement against Obama, right, she went
on the View Milania and she accused President Obama of

(01:06:58):
not being born in America.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
She went toe to toe with Joy. What's her face read?
She has a joy? Read No, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Joy from the view, Oh Joy Bahar, thank you, And
Kamala Harris was as dirty and nasty about the Birther
movement as any of them in the trumpet. But that
was before really, because I haven't forgotten. She doesn't really
care to you, she is one of them. She's one
of them. She's one of them. If she was capable
of that, then she has no conscience.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
She but I think that she also doesn't she hates
Trump too, Like, you're right. I think you're absolutely right,
But on that list now includes her husband, like she
doesn't care and now she doesn't care about him, like
book best.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
That's pretty good, that's pretty good job.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah. I just that whole video was gross, Like why
didn't they arrest the shooter before? Yeah, okay, that's a
good question, very valid, But it was just the most
emotionless and then ending with a picture of her book
like what it was really weird.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
We can all agree that there needs to be more
of an investigation into what happened, and I don't necessarily
think that that. Let me say that differently. I don't
think that the GOP or that the Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Campaign I don't want you to investigate it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
No, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
They don't. They don't want you to investigate it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
It's it's honestly, I think the whole thing is weird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I think the whole the injury is weird. I think
the fact that there's no doctors. I'm not going to
go down the conspiracy rabbit hole. I do think the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Lack of attention on it very quickly is weird. It's
odd one it ended very quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
One of her two nominated party party candidates for president
in the United States was shot and hit by or
grazed by a bullet or whatever. Yeah, and we're not
really covering that anymore, like it happened, and then like
two days later we were onto something else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I mean, this is a big deal, and anytime died.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Like we're not even focusing on the person that died.
And that's even weird, Like and where was the few
and I mean, and maybe because there was so much
after and then Biden and then he dropped out, like
there was a lot of news at that point. I
get it, and but I just feel like a lot
of it is suspicious. And again, I don't like conspiracies.

(01:09:35):
I don't like to go down the rabbit hole. I
take things, and maybe to my detriment, I take things
a lot, especially with the loss of life at face value,
because I don't want to mess with like the loss
of life. If somebody lost a loved one, I'm gonna
believe it until there's actual evidence to the contrary, you
know what I mean. And I'm not going to somebody
like that. But for Trump to let it go as

(01:09:58):
quickly as he did raises the hairs on the back
of my neck that it's kind of be us, you
know what I mean. But I'm not I'm not gonna
fall on like I'm not gonna die on the hill
of investigating it because we're not paying any attention to it.
So it is like whatever. I'm just it is what
it is. But I I just feel like this election,

(01:10:22):
it's what fifty something days until November. Taylor Swift endorsement.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
After the after the debate swea pease.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
A historic amount of people are getting registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Care than three hundred thousand after she posted that registration.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
And it is going and it's still going.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
I love how she did it. She said, this is
my choice. I did my race, Sargy, you do yours
and make your own choice. I'm from forcing my endorsement
down your throat, but registered to vote and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Here exactly loved it. Basketball star Kaitlin Clark liked it,
got some pushback, and then she was asked during a
press conference, you know are you is that you're endorsement
Nakamala Harris. She's like, you know what, I like the
fact that she was urging people to register to vote,
and that's what I'm doing using my platform. You should
educate yourself about the issues, what you believe in, and
get registered to vote and then go vote. And that's

(01:11:13):
actually the message I would like all people with a
major platform to do, because I do think that when
people actually educate themselves about the issues, and I mean
really educate themselves, not oh is that what you know?
Taylor Swift. I'm was just gonna just do what she does.

(01:11:35):
Educ your sol What do you believe in? Read up
on it? What does that? What do you truly believe?
What would you if you were in that situation? What
would you want to happen? That's what you should That's
how you should vote, you know what I mean? Like
and I'm not gonna push my beliefs on you, but
I just going back to what Kamala Harris said about abortion.
You know, some people say this idea of what abortion is,

(01:11:58):
and then you're bleeding out in your car because you
have a topic pregnancy. You know what I mean. There's
a disconnect between the narrative and the reality, and that's
what we have to talk about. So I arge the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Yeah, this is the this is what she wrote. Kalma
of what Taylor Swift wrote, will you read it. I'm
voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights
and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady handed, gifted leader, and
I believe that we can accomplish so much more in
this country if we are led by calm and not chaos.

(01:12:35):
And she signed it a childless cat lady exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I mean, I think that it's awesome. Can I just
play you this quick clip of JD Vance's reaction to
Taylor's He is so I don't think that he hears
the words as they come out of his mouth, but
this is Jade Vance.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
Look, we admire Taylor Swift's music, but I don't think
most Americans, whether they like her music or fans of
hers or not, are going to be influenced by a
billion celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the
interests and the problems of most Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
You're running with a billionaire who is mostly disconnected from
the interests of most Americans, So you're an idiot. So sorry,
j D.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Mans. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
There's another He said, people aren't going to be influenced
by a billionaire who's out of touch. I saw a
meme with that quote and the picture of Melania and
Trump and Baron.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
In this gold room where.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
He's like nine or ten and he's he's on his
you know, fao Schwartz lion stuffed lion with toys around
and they're in this palace.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Really, have you worried.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
About your p Genie Bill or whatever you in New York?

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
You have not, you know? And then there's Elon Musk,
who is so effing weird, Like after Taylor Swift makes
her endorsement, he's like, fine, Taylor, you win. I'll give
you a child and guard your cats with my life.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Was that a sexual reference?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Well, I know that Elon Musk believes in like fothering
all kinds of children because he thinks he needs to
repopulate the country. Yeah, and then he thinks that her
cats are her children. So I think he was making
a joke. I really do think that he was trying
attempting to make a joke. Elon Musk is an odd duck.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
I think that if I was going to choose a
tweet or whatever you call ex's things now that had
more of an influence a positive influence on society. Taylor
Swift's is way better than Elon Musk's. But again, and
my thumbnail kind of hints to this, does what they
say actually matter? I think Elon Musk has lost the

(01:14:45):
impact of his words to society and Taylor Swift is not.
Megan Kelly lost her effing mind after Taylor Swift's endorsement.
She went on her podcast or whatever, She's like, f you, Taylor,
You've lost like all the Republican vote. And I'm like, Megan,
did you actually if you if you were a Taylor
Swift fan, honestly, you already knew who Taylor Swift was

(01:15:08):
voting for. You already knew because you watched Miss Americana.
Like any Tea Swift fans, you already know this. You
watched Miss Americana, so you already knew who she was
voting for. You didn't need the endorsement. If you were
a Tea Swift fan, you already knew. So for Megan
Kelly to be like, if you you lost, know you're
not a Taylor Swift fan, like, so stop it already.

(01:15:30):
I love these conservatives that tell people instead of shut
up and dribble, like, shut up, and sing they don't
have to. Why don't you just shut up or don't
or do whatever, but stop telling people that have a
huge platform to not use it in the way they
want to. They can use it any way they want to.
Elon Musk can make weird comments of Taylor Swift, and

(01:15:53):
the fall Out can do what it wants to be,
and Taylor Swift can get thousands of people to register
to vote. I would rather have Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
I just rather wonder why she waited so long. I
really thought she would have done it during the Dmc'm
saying the timing was really good. That right after the
debate was really.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Good timing, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I mean, I like that it has spurred people to
register whenever she wants to do it, right. I think
if you're I agree with you, though, if you're really
a Swiftie, first of all, you already knew, and second
of all, you would think. I love how she respected
me by telling me, here's what I'm doing. Make your
own choices, but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Get registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
That was incredibly respectful of her fans, because you know,
there's people on both sides of the aisle. When you
consider how many fans she has they're not all going
to be blue, going to be red, right, so she
had to be respectful in that way, and she.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Was, Yeah, I think, and I think that the message
is is what all of us should be saying to
each other. And it's what I say to my conservative friends,
you know, or people I disagree with, like I while
I do care because I would like you, obviously to
vote in a way that doesn't harm me or the
people I care about. I do just want people to
be engaged.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I hope to convince you on the platform that I
am voting on. I would hope that you see it
my way. But if you don't vote, you know, be engaged.
That is what I want. That's what America is about.
And we could disagree about policy and then you go
into the battle box and you do what you want,
you know, but that's being an American. And we can
have those debates and then in another four years we

(01:17:32):
have the debate again, and that's what it's about.

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
But it's not about lying and cheating and being a
sore loser.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
It's about, you know, having an election and then in
two to four years doing it again. And that's how
it has to be but you don't get a bitch
and moan if you don't register to vote and you
don't vote. I mean when I was watching the news
and they were interviewing especially young people, and they're like, now,
I'm not going to watch the debate. I don't really care,
and then and then they're gonna bitch and then somebody

(01:18:02):
else is going to make decisions for you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Why you don't care about your future? Do you think
these celebrity endorsements sway people? Do you think they're important
or that they would make a difference in an election?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
I think that what Taylor Swift did getting people registered
to vote, Yes, and that's important because people will be
engaged and be like I'm for this, I'm for that,
and then when it comes time to vote, they're not registered.
That matters.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
So yes, I think in that instance, yes, are people going.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
To know exactly how Taylor Swift votes in every single
you know decision? No, I think people know how you're
going to vote for the president. There's so many other
things on that ballot, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Like, I know if McConaughey came out, if Matthew might
kind of Houghty came out and said here's how I'm voting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
I probably wouldn't vote the same way as Matthew might
be all the time. No, no, I love him to death,
but I probably wouldn't agree with Matthew on all topics
except you know how gorgeous he is. But no, you
know what I mean, No.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
You know it's but I'd listen, you know what I mean.
And that's what I think is an important thing. Is
like if you have a celebrity that you like, that
maybe that will open the door to maybe listen to
what they have to say.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Sure, So, for instance, if Taylor Swift is for and let's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Just use abortion, I'm just gonna say, or a woman's
right to choose at the very least, right, just a
woman trying to choose. Like, Okay, you could be pro life,
but do you think the government should have a say
in it. You don't have to have an abortion, you
could be absolutely against having an abortion, But do you
think the government should have to say if a woman
has an a topic pregnancy or is a victim of
incest fill in the blank?

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I think this all the way through, Like, do you
think it should just be rule across the board, those
sorts of conversations could be had when it's a face
that you really really like, you know what I mean.
So that's where I think a celebrity could maybe open
the door to that conversation versus some rando just knocking
on your door.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
You know what I mean. Your point absolutely, and they're gonna
get made coverage. And so, you know, some random knocking
on your door you might not open, but you're gonna
click on that picture of Taylor Swift and read what
she has to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Say exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Also, though, I think in a race where from what
I understand it can come down to just a few
thousand votes in a swing state, right, having people register
to vote and more people maybe participating and encouraging people
to register, like you said, that could actually bring a
Taylor Swift effect exactly where she influences an election simply

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because she got people out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
There to register.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Absolutely, and I hope it does happen. Okay, that's an
act debate talk. Because I want to get into something
a little closer to home and buy home, I mean
here in California. And that has to do with like,
these are three crimes that I'm going to just briefly
kind of compare, okay, and they made big news. I
would say, I don't know if they all made national news,

(01:20:59):
but kind of one definitely made national news. That was
the Tyreek Hill. I guess you would call it a detainment.
It was a police detainment. Uh so. Uh. It was
right before Sunday's game. He's a football player, camp. I'm
sure you've seen the video. He was on his way
to the game. He was he was pulled over by police.

(01:21:21):
He was He's a Dolphins, a Miami Dolphins player. He's
pulled over by police, and I have the video right here.
I think I have it. I have a cute up. Okay,
here it is. So he's pulled over by police and
this is what happens. So to lead it up, the
cops have his ID, I believe, but they asked him
to keep his window down and he rolled it up.

(01:21:43):
So here we go.

Speaker 12 (01:21:45):
Get out of the cut right now.

Speaker 16 (01:21:49):
We're not playing this game, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:21:51):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Getting arrested, Drew.

Speaker 16 (01:22:02):
I'm getting arrested. I'm getting arrested, Drew.

Speaker 14 (01:22:06):
I'm getting up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Bro, God, Dan Twin, could we tell you to do
something you doing?

Speaker 16 (01:22:11):
You understand, you understand for you what we tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Confute.

Speaker 12 (01:22:17):
I'm getting up all right, brother, yea, brother, do what
you gotta do. We will go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Bro, It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Hey, don't worry about you.

Speaker 16 (01:22:27):
Off the stop crying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Okay. So and the video goes on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Okay, that's really scary.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
He actually Okay, So I'm gonna sew you quick another
video because he actually makes it to the game. Okay,
he actually made it to the football game. They won.
Here is him being interviewed at the game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Roller coaster of a day for you, starting on the
way to the stadium, a day filled with adversity.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
How would you just describe your mindset coming into this
game today?

Speaker 10 (01:22:55):
Know what?

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Man?

Speaker 12 (01:22:56):
So when I left home, I told my wife, I
was like, Mabe, I'm gonna go to work and I'm
going to get prepared for my day limited. I know
that was quite a surprise on the way, man, But
you know what, at the end of the day, doll,
I got a job to do, and my job is
to come inside of this stadium and be great.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
Doll.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
So what did it mean to you for your teammates
to join you this morning and show support?

Speaker 12 (01:23:15):
Bo I loved that I was fired up, Doll to
see Joe, you know, right there in the heat of
the battle with me, Man, I go to show that man,
it's more than it's more than about football, Doll. Like
the brotherhood that we got outside of just football is
amazing all because those dudes were like really risking their
lives for me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
So and again, I mean it was obviously a very
aggressive takedown. Now he has said he would he he
does think that the police officer that tackled him should
be fired, But he also has said I should have
handled things differently. I should not have rolled my window
up when they told me to keep it down. And
a lot of people are saying, you know, it's a

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the officer. It was a bit much like he didn't
need to do what he did over basically, I mean
rolling your window down, which who hasn't done that sometimes? Right,
like you roll your window up, you roll your window down.
And it made national news. Okay, So that and again
I'm not that's just one crime that I want to

(01:24:16):
talk about, Okay, So can I just.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Tell you that all of that started because he was
going sixty and a forty right, So and again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
A crime that not all of us, but many of
those have done. Right, he's a football player.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Do you think if you or I were going sixty
and a forty and were pulled over in our fancy
car with the doors that open up, right, and we've
sent the officer I need to roll my window if
it's too warm outside, because it's really hot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
In Florida, right, right, right, right? Do you think we
would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Yanked out of the car, thrown to the pavement and
cuffed in the behind our back like that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
It's in a rough manner.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
I don't think so. I mean again, I think that's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Never happened to me in my life. I would be
horrified and crying and I probably still wouldn't be over it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
And he looked at him. He went out and won
a football game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
He went on and again it's this idea that again
black men and and I And it's not that I
want to bring race into it, but you can't have
this conversation without bringing race into it. You can't because again,
it's one of those things where race has to be
brought into it. You, Kim, as a white woman, if

(01:25:23):
you they would you know, And I'm just I obviously
I'm making an assumption here, Kim They might have looked
at you and been like, you know, you should roll
you indo up, it's hot outside.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
They might have told you to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
They might have told you to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
They might have seen that you have kids in the
car and we know there's a lot of mosquitoes out
here and it's really we.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Might have they go ahead and roll.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I'm just saying, I'm not saying that would have happened,
but it could have. You know what, it's not beyond
the realm of possibility, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Okay, do you think it goes back to what that
guy said earlier on when we were listening to him
saying that there's a generation of people of black people
that were told you've got to be twice as good,
and that's why he's able to deal with that, then
to go on to the field and be twice as
good because you constantly have to deal with this crisp yes,

(01:26:10):
where if I would be a blubbering mess by the
side of the road, probably wouldn't have made it to
the game, Probably would have called my family members to
come hug me because I would have been so emotionally damaged.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Right exactly now, Calvin says, the problems is tinted. His
windows are tinted and could easily have a weapon. Okay, okay,
you can shoot someone really fast from inside the car,
and the cop went and see it in time. Now, Calvin,
tinted windows, yes, are against law, and I'm assuming they
are in Florida. I'm just making an assumption. I don't
know the laws there, and I do see what you're
saying now. I also, I just think that the reaction

(01:26:46):
to it, it could have been like keep your windows down,
keep your windows down, like it's but anyways, Okay, So
it just seems to me that that's one. And the
conversation that I want to have right now is that's
one police for Okay, this is I have three that
I'm going to just so that's one. My next one
is this one. And this is the one that really

(01:27:07):
pisses me off. This is the one that happened last
weekend on the Bay Bridge and this I just I
just don't get this one.

Speaker 11 (01:27:14):
This oh.

Speaker 14 (01:27:21):
It all happened at the intersection of Higgenberger and Edgewater
in the city. A driver crashed into spectators. We stood
the vedo just a second before the impact. There a
female was run over as the car left the scene.
Some of the crowd rushed to help her, and another
side show took over the entire westbound side of the
Bay Bridge. The CHP says at about three thirty this morning,

(01:27:44):
at least one hundred cars blocked all the westbound lanes.
This incident lasted about twenty minutes. One vehicle struck the
crowd here as well. No arrests have been made.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
No arrest made, okay, so twenty minutes held up traffic.
Bay Bridge cop see it dispersed, no arrests. Third crime,
this one which again conflicting reports. Also race and everything
brought into it this crime.

Speaker 14 (01:28:14):
This video, outed outside Peer thirty nine along San Francisco's
in Barcadero September eighth, is difficult to watch. Hot dog
vendor Anna Luisa kessimir Huka is seen on the ground
being detained by police as her five year old daughter
can be heard screaming. Nearby the Port of San Francisco,

(01:28:36):
they along with the Department of Public Works and Public Health,
conduct regular enforcement of unpermitted vending on port property. SFPD
says they were providing security to those city workers and
jumped in after they say Casimir Houka attacked a.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
Port employee because she's got a told.

Speaker 14 (01:28:53):
She was then arrested for that assault and delaying an investigation.
We found her today unable to vent. She says, were
injuries and her car being confiscated. My whole head, everything bruised.
How is it possible they did this to me?

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Okay? And so it went on, and apparently there was
this report that she did have her daughter with her.
The daughter had gone away, and then apparently some other
vendor had brought the kid close. The allegation is that
somebody said, hey, kids start crying to make it look
bad on camera. We don't know if that's actually true.
But again, the crime is vending. Her assaulting one of

(01:29:31):
the poor authorities. That's what led to her being arrested
and charged and things like that. But here's my question.
Out of the three that I just showed you, which
is the crime that you want police to focus on?
Which is the crime if you had to choose out
of those three, I have to choose one. These are

(01:29:56):
your options, hot dog vending sides show, and I guess
speeding with windows or not rolling your window up.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Or is the crime in case number one? What Cheryl says.
We don't want to see a bunch of cops holding
down a black man. I mean that to me is
the thing that stands out the most. But if I
had to pick a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
No, I'm a police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
I'm a police officer.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I'm walking up side shows and yet not one arrest,
not one arrest, was made on that side show. And
that's what pisses me off. It's like, and I understand
there's a lot of people, but it's like, what in
the holy hell that's why I did this story everything.
It's like, so, we have a guy that's speeding with
tinted windows, he gets pulled over, he rolled his windows down,

(01:30:44):
and he's put on the ground. We have a woman
that's a hot dog vendor. And yes, I'm not saying
that the assault alleged against the port Authority worker is
not valid, because if she did that allegedly, then yes,
she should be arrested. But right now it's hot dog
vending and that alleged assault. Yes, But the side show,
two people and two separate incidents get hurt, Traffic is

(01:31:04):
held up for at least twenty minutes to thirty minutes,
and no arrests were made. Are you freaking kidding me already?

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
It's a menace?

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Absolutely, this is this is so dumb, and we have
no solution for it. There's no solution apparently for this.
And that's what I don't understand. And it's dumb. It
is so dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Side shows are so lame everyone that participates.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
You guys are lame. You're so dumb, Like, here's your
lame card. We find something better to do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
You know what I mean? Like they're gonna come do
one right in front of your house now they do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Like like, oh, like I haven't seen the black tarmarks
on the street. You guys are lame. Find something better
to do, Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Eric says, with the side show, you know, none of
the spectators are cooperating with the cop.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Course they're not. They're part of it. And it's just
and that's what frustrates me, and that's why I wanted
to like, of all the three that made the news
and the ask couple of weeks, the only one that
I really wanted someone getting arrested for is this freaking
five show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
He says, how do you not arrest people on the bridge?
There's only two ways on and off.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I was so frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
There's all over the bridge. They can see who's doing it.
Don't they get you on the way off or on?

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
I think the problem is is all the people that
are caught, right, Like, all of a sudden, I'm on
the bridge and these idiots are doing this and I'm caught.
But you know what I would I would rather be
hammed up as someone caught up and be like, I
will prove that I'm coming and going. I'll prove receipts
if I can catch some of these mfors, you know
what I mean. I will be inconvenienced to be a
witness to this nonsense if it helps catch some of them.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Sign me up, Sign me up, because they're lames.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
They're lame. I hate all of you. You guys suck, okay,
and I have one more story because I know you
can bring them hell along, one more story.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
You know who else sucks and is not my hero anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
And I don't know what the hell. I don't know
why he did it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Who Dave, girl of the Food Fighters?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Why why are you telling the world that you've had
an affair and you have another child?

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Like if someone was gonna someone was gonna put that out,
so he had to pat him to it. So so
I mean, you don't let someone else blackmail you. You
don't let someone else.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
So don't let come forward and say okay.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
So I just I don't okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I like Dave Girl. I like the Food Fighters. I
know some people don't care for their music. I like
the Food Fighters. I have nothing against them. Like you know,
I'm not a huge fan. I have never bought food
Fighters music, don't get me wrong, But when they're playing,
I listen to it. I like Dave Girl. He's had
an affair. He comes forward and he said, I have
a new baby with a woman outside of my marriage.

(01:33:53):
Do you think he did the right thing? Do you
think a press release if you were his wife? Do
you think that his wife is happy he did that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
I think he probably went to her and said, listen,
someone's gonna out me on this. You've probably known it
for a while, but I'm gonna have to come forward
and say something. So yeah, and you know what, he's
a rock star, like a serious, bona fide rock star.
So there were probably women throughout his career throwing themselves

(01:34:24):
at him backstage. Not that I'm making excuses for it.
But look at the history of other rock stars. Look
at Mick Jagger, right, I mean, these guys have women,
have kids with a million different women.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Wife is really beautiful, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Surprised to me, I guess I'm just not surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
I mean, I'm sorry. Dave Girl's wife is gorgeous, by
the way. Here's a picture of her. Oh, there we go.
I mean, And here's the thing. I'm not trying to
insult Dave Grohl, but his wife is gorgeous, and he's
all right, he plays a guitarist, so and he's part
of of Food Fighters and was Nirvana. But if he wasn't,

(01:35:04):
he would never land her, like she would land a
much more good looking guy. And I'm not trying to
be superficial, but I'm sorry, Like, if we're just gonna
be like, if she.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Was ugly, it would have been more acceptable for him to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
No, no, no, what I'm saying, if if they if
there was no celebrity involved, if we're going to talk about, like,
you know, on the superficial scale of attractiveness should be
totally superficial, Okay, not personality, No personality, So we're taking
superficial totally. She is he he is, She's way above

(01:35:38):
his league. Okay, like way, So this is what I'm saying,
because like, why are you sleeping around on her? That's
what I'm saying, Like you have a gorgeous wife. What
are you doing? What are you doing? I never understand
men that sleep around other gorgeous wives, Like what are you?
I don't just get it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
This is not a me like this is a rock
star thing right why?

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I guess because I'm not a man. I just don't
get it. I just don't get it. And I mean,
does this humiliate her more than he says it? And
she's supposed to accept? Okay, if you were the wife,
here's a good yea kid? And I know you sorry
to know the answerless Like I don't. Oh no, maybe
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
So what do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Do we accept the baby? Is it like part of
the family?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
What are the baby's fault?

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
It's I know it's not the baby's fault.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
I guess we do Christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Like what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Did he tell me right after it happened? Did we
work through our problems? And have I accepted that the
fact that he has another child? Because if whether I'm
the mother of those three kids that you see there
or not, I'm going to say that that's my children's
step sibling, and I'm now a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Stepmother, sibling, half sibling.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Half sibling, and I'm going to do what I can
for that child to welcome them into my family, regardless,
regardless of the ridiculousness of him. Now, if he just
told me and the kids like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I don't know, eight twelve he just told me an
Arnold Schwarzenegger thing, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
That's unforgivable. I'm the divorce papers are being ready. That's
that's the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Different She's like, are you affing kidding?

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
I know, yeah, yeah, that's a betrayal on a whole
different level. But I mean, you're not angry at the child.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
I would be angry at the child, But it's like,
how do you how do you welcome the child?

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Do you welcome the child and the mom?

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
I'm not welcoming the mom, although I don't hate the mom.
And here's why, because the mom, that's exactly right. It's
your husband that made the bows to you. It's a
husband that promised to love, cherish, honor.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yes, what have you. She didn't make any place, He
didn't do it exactly the women I know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
While she's morally suspect, you know, and while maybe I
don't like the way she operates.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Right, he's the one thats the betrayer.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
He's the one I always agree with that. I hate
when women are like that. Wholeror slept with my husband
is like, but you're gonna forgive your husband.

Speaker 11 (01:38:14):
She wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
She didn't take the marriage vows. Now, if a woman
knows that a man is married and is still going
after him, then you're more Just like you said, you're
morally suspect. And I would say, I don't like you
as a person. I think that there's something morally wrong
with you, but I'm not gonna blame you like I
wouldn't trust you with any other married men. Obviously there's

(01:38:36):
something wrong with you, but I'm not mad at you
like I'm mad at my husband or my boyfriend or
whoever made a commitment to me. Absolutely, I'm very disappointed
in any day girl. I will say that though I
agree with you, though, I mean, it is the whole
rock star aspect, and it's recent like you. I don't
know why, I just feel like older rockers should just
get it out of their system when they're younger, like

(01:38:58):
you should have done that earlier. Really, dude, seriously, you
couldn't have done this like a long ass time ago.
I don't know whatever. You're not my hero anymore, Dave girl.
It doesn't mean that he.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Doesn't make good music like everyone else and makes mistakes,
and it's between he and his wife, but it's it
is a disappoint and I bet it's not the first
time that he got it on with somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
That sucks. All right, that's our show, you guys, Thank
you all for being here. I hope you enjoyed it.
If you loved it, give us a thumbs up, because
we love being here. I finished my old fashion. It
was very very good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
I blame you. Oh, I'm glad you finished it. That's delicious,
sand says. I blame Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Everything on Trump. That was a very good old fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
It's Trump's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
I look at Bill Cosby's wife. She knew what he
was doing and she stayed.

Speaker 9 (01:39:49):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Yeah, that's that's a good question. John Schwartzenegger and the maid.
I mean you would only have to look at the
maid's son to be suspicious about that whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
I mean, he looks identical Donald Schwartzenegger.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
I like the Food Fighters music too, I do. I
wonder who the woman is though, here's the question too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
If I'm the wife, I'm looking at you like, not
only are you a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater, but you
didn't use protection?

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Yes, well, now we got a problem, right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Like you're coming home dirty, dirty d dude like e
because you know about wrapping it up when you're married.

Speaker 10 (01:40:29):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
No, oh no, Phineas, I'm so sorry what happened? Oh no, no, no, oh, Phineas.
I'll say a little prayer for your dog. Everybody gives
good night's, so oh, I'm so sorry. You know, dogs
are the best, but we will only have them for
such a short time and it sucks, It really really sucks.
But I'll say a big prayer for you, Phineas. I'm

(01:40:55):
so so sorry. I'm so sorry. Thanks for the shallow
ladies from d Drew. I'll miss the next two weeks
because you live the life. I wish I could leave alone.
Helloa going to Maui next week. Oh, enjoy the sunshine
for us. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Out on the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Send us pictures of the of the beach. We absolutely
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