July 23, 2025 • 35 mins
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Donna and Bralynn have frank and insightful conversations about the mysteries and deeper things of God. We take intimacy with the Godhead and engagement with Heaven to the Nth Degree!
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ABOUT BRALYNN: Bralynn Newby is a spiritual business coach and trailblazing Kingdom warrior. She is passionate about helping entrepreneurs finally release fear and limiting beliefs, and resolve emotional trauma that has been holding them back in business and life.
She also helps visionary coaches, speakers and influencers design their business around the message on their hearts, build leveraged systems and structure, and activate their influence to transform more lives and fulfill their destiny through their business.
Connect with her on Social or on http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com
ABOUT DONNA: Donna operates in practical, organizational wisdom which she brings to the topic or revelation at hand. She is a sharp and agile seer, teacher and creator with exceptional insight into spiritual realities.
She's a voice that can bring the next level of clarity to a situation. She is the owner of Dwellhouse Productions where she creates content that aids people in bringing forward their ability to engage Heaven. Her aim is to offer lifestyle-type coaching on spiritual topics through group and solo sessions. Find her on Goodreads, MeWe and Rumble and her website https://www.dwellhouse.net
(c) 2025 Bralynn Newby Int'l LLC. All rights reserved.
Donna and Bralynn have frank and insightful conversations about the mysteries and deeper things of God. We take intimacy with the Godhead and engagement with Heaven to the Nth Degree!
Fusion Coaching combines engaging and legislating in Heaven with bringing those strategies and verdicts into business coaching. Bring Bralynn and Donna on to your Success Team! http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/fusion
The Nth Degree with Newby and Neeper airs Wednesdays at 6pm Eastern on Rumble, Mewe, YouTube, and others, and the podcast can be found on several platforms including Spotify, iHeart Radio, iTunes, Amazon Music and many more. While you're there, please subscribe, join, like, and share with your friends!
ABOUT BRALYNN: Bralynn Newby is a spiritual business coach and trailblazing Kingdom warrior. She is passionate about helping entrepreneurs finally release fear and limiting beliefs, and resolve emotional trauma that has been holding them back in business and life.
She also helps visionary coaches, speakers and influencers design their business around the message on their hearts, build leveraged systems and structure, and activate their influence to transform more lives and fulfill their destiny through their business.
Connect with her on Social or on http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com
ABOUT DONNA: Donna operates in practical, organizational wisdom which she brings to the topic or revelation at hand. She is a sharp and agile seer, teacher and creator with exceptional insight into spiritual realities.
She's a voice that can bring the next level of clarity to a situation. She is the owner of Dwellhouse Productions where she creates content that aids people in bringing forward their ability to engage Heaven. Her aim is to offer lifestyle-type coaching on spiritual topics through group and solo sessions. Find her on Goodreads, MeWe and Rumble and her website https://www.dwellhouse.net
(c) 2025 Bralynn Newby Int'l LLC. All rights reserved.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, hello there, welcome to the nth degree. This is
going to be good because we're raw and fresh and
have not conversated yet.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We have not conversated, So if you tune in because
you just want to hear two people who are spiritual
beings like you are, and we're and we're walking with
the Lord and intentionally listening to him. So that's what
this is.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We're a degree. Yeah, we don't even know if we
agree with what we're going to say because we haven't
talked about it. This is literally a raw conversation, right, So.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
If you've ever wanted to be a fly on the wall,
this is that experience.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So as I was walking in here to get on
zoom with Berlin, I was like, Lord, what are what
do you want us to talk about? Holy Spirit? What
do you want us to talk about? We could talk
about it variety of things. What I need? I need
a guidance, I need a direction and I and I
heard in my spirit talk about change, and so I
(01:09):
just said to Berlin, I think, as I asked, totally
spirit would to talk about he's talking about change? You
got any low hanging fruit on that?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And she said, I absolutely do about a half an
hour ago, I just read hag Guy one four are
excuse me, yep, I.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Talk about it? What? Yeah, what's your what's your what's
on your what's in your spirit?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
About that? Well, the thing that I first of all
led the verse is something to the effect of totally
praifi thing that the Lord hag Ice asked the Lord
about building his house, and the Lord said, well, you
live in You guys all live in paneled houses, and
(01:52):
here I sit without a house, So what do you think?
So the verse fourteen is the Lord stirred the heart
of Zeruba Bell who was the governor, and Joshua, who
was the high priest, and he also stirred up the
heart of the remnant of the people. So I said,
(02:12):
I had to look up, Okay, what's the Hebrew stirred
up the heart? What does that mean? And the context
that I original that I approached it from was can
we pray for the Lord to stir hearts or to
change hearts in a situation? Or is that a witchcraft prayer?
(02:33):
And so then I was looking up, Well, if the
Lord stirred up a heart, can we pray to the
Lord to stir up a heart? So then I was
looking at the word stir up and it also means
wake up. And then I was going, I was about
to look at the Septuagint to see if when the Greek,
when they translated the Hebrew into Greek, did they use
(02:56):
the same word that Paul used when he said I
opened the eyes of your heart. I was about to
do that. And when I looked at the time, I'm like,
oh no, I've got to get on with Donna. So
that's what I am in that kind and that research.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I can so identify with Oh no, I've got
to get on with Berlin.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, right. But it's a it's a change, it's
a change of heart. And so when you said do
you have something on change, I'm like, well, here's an
instance where God changed the hearts so that they do
a thing to bring His will into the earth.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, this is a supernatural conversation because my side of
that is before I got on with you, I was
sitting with the Lord and it just bubbled up in
my spirit and came out of my mouth in my
private time. Here stir Lord, I stir up my waters. Lord,
I stir up my heart. Lord, I stir up I
(03:50):
stir me up. Wow, and I think what I would
say this topic of change. Oh Lord, this is fine,
just doing this with you is there are times in
your life where God is changing a thing. Oh boy,
we are in that season. There are times where you
(04:12):
are working with God to perceive the need for change,
so you're you're colaboring in the change. And then there
are times when the Godhead desires that you stir yourself
up for change. And actually, we humans, I don't care
where you are on the planet, We humans, we need
(04:34):
change in.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Order to grow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We need the sensation of it, we need the feel
of it, and even the you know when it's difficult,
the pressure of it are difficult. I don't want to
do that. I just can't get myself motivated to open
the door of that change. I know I need to
go through. But we need that actually in the brain
(04:59):
and the neural pawer ways, and and and because as you,
as you then make a decision to move through that change,
you are really expressing the image of God because he
always he He doesn't change, but he changes, right. We
know that because he created seasons, he created time which
(05:19):
we experience lineally, lineally, but he can see it all
at one time. Yeah, and so we know that he
moves you forward and look at the human condition. You
go for my baby. You know, through decades of life
that's changed everything in that experiences changed, and so and so,
and you change your mind, you change your you know,
(05:42):
Paul says, once I was childish, and I did child
I thought as a child. Now I'm I'm an adult,
and I'm gonna think as an adult, meaning that he
grew up into knowledge or he grew up into understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's a maturation process.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's funny that you said that, because earlier this morning,
I have I have a client whose wife is pregnant
with twins and she's dueing September.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And so's the lord.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I yeah, it's like, oh my gosh, and yeah, exactly.
And so I was also listening to another podcast or
something and they were talking about having a cesarean section.
Is that sea section? Is that whatrean section? So anyway,
I was thinking, wow, I read somewhere that they have
(06:31):
started making the cesarean section opening a lot smaller so
that the baby has to have feel pressure as they leave,
and make that change that evolving because the studies had
shown that when there was no pressure on the baby,
they tended to go through life more listlessly and without
(06:54):
as much drive and motivation to go after their dreams. Amazing,
It's so amazing that you just said that we need
the change, We need the pressure. Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Need you need to feel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's almost like if you feel.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That it's going to be difficult, I don't want to
do that in the beginning of your processing. That's actually
a great place to start. You're you're right, you can
know you're on You're on step one. Okay, that's actually
a great place. Step one is better than step zero.
So let it, let it go, let it show you
(07:30):
you've already you've already gone from zero to one. You're
already on the first step and now too. It's that
count the cost.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Type of situation.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But then you want to you want to keep going.
That change requires that, growth requires that. But I want
to circle back to something, hm, I want to trok
back to stir up.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, you both said that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, So Brilynn, give me your like, if someone said,
you know, what would you want to say if that
were the topic, stir up? What would you want to say?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know? And then this is probably filtered through the
business that you know. What I do is we have
to pull up our own bootsteps. We have to stir
ourselves up to get on with what we need to
do in our day in order to accomplish the goals,
(08:28):
because sometimes we just don't feel like it and we
have to get over then not today, Lord, I just
want to lay on the couch and or take a
nap or whatever. We have to stir ourselves up, motivate ourselves.
And that's why doing the declarations of the truth of
what God said, who God said you are, and the
(08:50):
assignment that He has you on, and the urgency of
this assignment, it's so important to continually stir yourself up
to actually go after it and that you can do it.
You do have. I am capable, I am strong enough,
I am courage, He is with me. There are more
with me than there are against me. You know what
I mean. Stir yourself up to just go for it.
(09:14):
So that's when I think of stir up.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think of that, and that's so interesting. Want to
I want to come from a different angle on that
I'm equally true, different facet because that's the expression of
the different I mean, that's the expression of God in you.
This is the expression of God in me. I love
how check Pierce always says that. But so as I
(09:38):
this morning, out of my experience this morning, when I
was like, okay, I must need to stir myself up,
because that just bubbled right up out of my spirit.
And in fact, I walked around my office singing I'm
gonna stir myself up. I just was like, I'm going
to stir myself up by walking into circle, you know.
I'm just like, Lord, I'm stirring myself up. And all
of a sudden, the Spirit of the Lord spoke and said,
(10:01):
do a new thing. And so I sang to him,
I'm going to do a new thing, you know. And
He's like, no, I really mean to do a new thing.
And so I'm like, okay. So I had to pause
a second. What is this? Look?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, I'm gonna leave my office, which is my quiet place,
you know, and you're and I'm gonna go out to
the back porch. And I went out to the back
porch and they sat there, and the Spirit of God
was out there. As soon as I got out there,
I could feel his presence and he and he goes,
good job, you're doing a new thing. And sometimes stirring
up is to do a new thing. In other words,
(10:36):
you get complacent and a little bit what's the word comfortable?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And you think you got this right, You think you
got this and so do the demons. Right, so does
the enemy because he's all he's wicked. He's looking how
to trip you up. So just by moving you know
that many steps I could. I was like, oh, this
is this is really my spirit in this way. And
the Lord said this thing to me. He said, your
(11:05):
soul will follow your spirit when your spirit stirs itself up.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh so good.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm gonna say it again. Your soul will follow your
spirit when your spirit stirs itself up. And I'm like,
we are so dynamic spiritually, so our spirit is so capable.
So I'm talking about the human spirit in Jesus. So
(11:32):
therefore let me define it. I'm talking about your mingled
spirit with the mingling of the sevenfold spirit of Yahweh
and the spirit of Truth, and the spirit of God
and the spirit of Jesus. And he shows you all things.
But when you concentrate and remember that you are in
(11:53):
that oneness place as a mingled flame, a mingled smoke,
a mingled wrath, a mingled frequency. That's your spirit, and
your spirit in Jesus is awakened. Now. If you're not
in Jesus.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yet, we got good news for you.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You can ask to be and believe to be and
repent of sin and move into Jesus. Rocket science. But
the soul follows your spirit. So I think it's interesting.
We're a boy soul spirit, and you could try to
stir up yourself in all three different capacities. But what
(12:35):
works the best my opinion, it is stirring up your spirit.
It's your spirit stirred up.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know. I guess we have different phases that we
go through and sometimes the same thing doesn't work the
same way. And so I wanted to follow that with
when we're looking at stirring up our spirit or using
our spirit to stir up our soul, That's how I
would say, my the way that I think about it, Huh.
(13:08):
We take we're bringing truths from heaven into second Heaven,
our mind, will and emotions where our soul is. So
we're when our mind or our soul and body just
kind of want to black spirit knows the truth. Spirit
knows the urgency of the assignment and the mandate that
you've been given, and so spirit stirs up soul by
(13:32):
you know, doing those affirmations. Now our body follows that,
and at the same time, we could, like for me,
I'll go bounce on the trampoline to get my body
going and then do the the affirmation or the speaking
so that all we've got spirit, soul and body going together,
so that they're no longer fighting each other. I don't
(13:53):
have frequencies of you know, dull lifelessness writing against No,
we've got to go. This is important to God. This
is doing his will. This is you know what I mean.
I don't have I don't have a fighting there. I
bring everybody online.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Mm hmmm. I like the way you said that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, because we are those three parts, and you can
use becoming aware of your different three parts, that each
of your three parts have senses, a mind, and they
meet in the place of your heart, which is your decider,
your chooser. And I just feel like sometimes you have
(14:32):
to try different things to stir yourself up. Right right now,
I would I would like to say this, if you
feel really stagnant and still still, like the pond is still,
it's got algae on it. What you said a minute
ago is so true. It is the living word of
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the living God that will stir that will begin to
stir that so you can. You can if you feel staged,
ask Father, through Jesus, come and stir my waters.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I believe they we're supposed to learn how to do that,
so that we do it like we are doing it.
Not is merciful and graceful towards you, and he loves
you and he knows your condition. So if you feel
stagnant like a pond, and your living water isn't moving,
isn't flowing, isn't living, then go ahead and ask for help,
(15:30):
because you actually may have a resistance in your atmosphere,
a resistance in your geography. You may have a resistance
of a mind belief in your soul that's acting as
the gatekeeper, and the Holy Spirit will help you understand
which one that is.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I was just gonna say. Music can help to
definitely worship or even just something with a beat that
has is different than you're a slow like bringing yourself
up just by the beats of the music coming up.
But then Obviously, worship and praise also will shift you
(16:11):
shift your awareness into the presence. And sometimes in the
presence of God, sometimes we slow down and we just
relish in that presence. But sometimes the presence really stirs
us to movement and gets us into the stream so
that we can flow where He's going. Right, So to
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know yourself and know what you need and what type
of worship or praise or or that's important too to
understand how He designed you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I love. There's just nothing more that I love is
getting in the flow with God so that throughout my
day that day, I'm very aware of His presence. What
part of that, well, part of your being is aware
of His presence like that it's your speak it and
so taking time in the morning to get in his presence,
(17:07):
in front of his beautiful face, standing in his light.
These are all phrases that will help you. And music
is one. Be careful of the type of music. Obviously,
if it's old music, if it's if it's how do
I say this Lord, it'll slay you down. This one
thing will slow you down. If it is last season's music,
(17:35):
especially if it's vocalists. Sometimes that will keep you in
an old cycle. That'll keep your soul in that old
cycle emotionally, and you need a new sound. Interesting, That
new sound will help you stir your water for the
now and the future, present, present to future.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know, that's interesting. Sometimes our worship team reaches into
the wayback machine and pulls something out and it feels
like it feels like it's new. Because here's the reason
is because when that was happening, I'm talking about the
two thousand and ninety nine two thousand kind of range.
(18:18):
When that was happening, I was just coming into understanding
spirit led, being spirit led. I had been a Christian
because I had grown up Lutheran, but I was so
far from the church, like it had nothing to do
with Holy Spirit, right, So it was around that timeframe
that my spirit started coming online and I was filled
with Holy Spirit. So when I hear those kinds of
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music now, I'm like, I rehearkening back to those times
and it kind of stirs something new in me even
though it's old. So I agree that just just like
five years ago, probably wouldn't do it, that would keep
me stuck. But going back there, you know, and feeling
(19:01):
those old feelings and remembering, which.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is so interesting if you think about it, because God
may I mean, sound really moves your spirit because it's frequency,
like your spirit is frequency. And so this is why
I think people have to be very careful of what's
coming in the eargate, careful as in, Lord, is this
a good place for me to vibrate? You know? Or
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or do you need or is a better place? And
so an old I gotta clarify because an old sound
can be brought forward. That that is true, okay, And
I've seen worship teams do that, but usually they start
there and they launch into the new or new.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right then then it becomes prophetic and they're seeing the
word of the Lord over it right right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
On the other hand, occasionally, especially if you were in
the if you grew up in the church that did hims,
I mean, some churches still do that, hymns that are
with not a lot of electronic modern sound. Okay. But
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sometimes the Spirit of God will give you a him
You'll hear a himn in your spirit, and it's not
necessarily for the purpose of you go in and find
that on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What he's doing is he wants to redeem a sound
you want to listen to what the lyrics are, and
it's just the phrase probably of that he gave you
he wants to redeem something. Was just show you something
that came out of that era that he wants to
redeem and make new in this present and future part
of you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's so good. Yeah. So coming back to change, I mean,
we're in we've been talking about transition and change quite often.
I mean ever since we started the podcast, right, we
started with transition and change. And I have heard several
different sources that wouldn't have been talking to each other
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or seeing each other. I don't think say that this
because of AI and because of the leaps in technology
and the way the world is shifting, that potentially this
twenty twenty five might be the last year that we're
it's even possible to operate some things without AI, and
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so that's a big shift and change. If twenty twenty
six in six months is going to be like everything
will be AI, it's like wow, Okay, So we really
need to have our discernment on. We have to understand
what is driving us, who who's speaking to us, who
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whose influence are we under the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Need for discernment. Oh my gosh, in our modern time
and where you're going to get your discernment. You're going
to get your discernment mingled with the wisdom of Holy Spirit, right, And.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So the shift and change, they're trying to go in
one direction and the Lord is trying to go in
another direction. So I would say any daily habit that
you have, any routine pattern, anything that any mindset shift
makes sure that you're going in the direction that the
Lord is calling and not just being on the default
(22:32):
flow of where culture is going. And sometimes I'm going
to tell you it's going to be uncomfortable. I'm going
to just say that going against.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The culture is always uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Exactly when remember we talked about the pressure and the change.
This is will grow you in the way that the
Lord wants to grow you, rather than shape you and
mould you into the brick rather than the living right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It can mold you in the leaning on him more.
It'll grow you up. And if you want to lean
on the Lord more, which I'm always looking where I
want that, it'll grow you in that. And you have
to grow that. That is like a muscle, That is
like as it's a part of your spirit that expands.
(23:19):
Is the is the leaning on him and being aware
of what heaven. It's like, I mean, we've talked about
this so many times I think in this podcast is
that you know, you are a citizen of two places
and to walk bifurcated like that, where you're aware of
what the spirit realm is doing as you're moving about
your your natural Yeah, it really is the you know,
(23:44):
sometimes I set myself like a mini challenge, can I
do this very ordinary thing? And I'll here is an example.
This is a recent example. I had to clean the
window with you know, the glass cleaner. I had to.
It was just I'm like, I've got a god to
stop and clean the window. So I'm like, Lord, I
(24:05):
want to do this, and hear you. I want to
clean the toilet, and hear you. I want to you know,
I want to do that. And it's like a mini challenge,
can you do that? Sometimes just cleaning your window and
praying in tongues, it's gonna do that. So in that example,
that's what I did, and I was like, Okay, this
is this is okay, this is how I can be
(24:27):
two places in one time, in one space. You know,
I'm in I'm here, but I'm also with you. I'm
also seeing what Heaven is saying to me, and this
Heaven usually is quite busy and talking, right, but sometimes
to you personally, it may just be a moment where
were you and God are just you're just together, You're
(24:50):
you're not necessarily conversating, but you're just you're aware of
one another.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I was being facetious with conversating, of course, I know
you were, I know, right. I hear some people say
words like and sometimes they rub me the wrong way
and sometimes they're funny. So anyway, yeah, I agree. I mean,
we we just need to be so aware of his
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presence and aware when we're not in his presence, and
aware that something else has shifted and moved and changed
and taken his presence out of our governess.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Let me also suggest to our audience that change is positive. Okay,
change is positive. So if you have a mindset that
change is negative, take that to the Lord and say,
what what's my deal with this? Yeah? Because I want
to prophesy over the audience. I prophesy that when you
sense a change, and there's many changes, many levels, many
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areas of culture that are changing, many thoughts in you
are changing. But when you have a new thought, that
is a change. Change gives an eruption to a new landscape.
And you as a human need the new landscape.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You need it in.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Your spirit, your soul, and your body. It's healthy for you.
And so I prophesy to look for the change in
the landscape as you sense the change, and don't judge
it necessarily automatically, but wait for the spirit of the
Lord to show you if the change in the landscape
you are looking at is what does he want to
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do with that? What does he want to grow out
of that? Because every change will cause an eruption on
the landscape somewhere some level.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know you you said something there and it's not
the first time you said it, even in this show.
But we have done whole shows on this. The pause,
the take a moment, the wait a minute, because in
our culture and in our society, we're so about next, next, next, next, next, next,
that we don't take that pause. I know we've done
(27:03):
whole shows on it, but I'm telling you that is
going to be the critical moment of your discerning that
we're That is so important for the way that we're
changing and are you changing toward God or away from him.
It's gonna be in that pause, in that moment, in
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that catch his thought on the idea rather than your
thought on the idea or anybody else has sought, any
other spiritual beings or culture that are influencing Is it
their thought or is it God's thoughts? Because I would
venture to say that rarely it can happen, but rarely
will they be the same.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Mm hmm mmmm. It's always good to pause.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
We do talk about that a lot, we do, we do,
we do. It's just like we're gonna drill it, and
we're gonna drill. We're gonna keep saying it until you
get it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah. Oh, I pray that this has really stirred someone's spirit.
That you are feeling the movement and the flow of
the breath of God, that the river of His goodness
that flows from out his throne, that's there for you,
that's alive, that is in filling you with his power,
his might, his love, his appreciation of you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
He is a he.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is thunderstruck by you because you are willing to look
at him and grow with him and seek him and
walk with him and have a lifelong journey.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Oh. I love the way you said that that was good,
and I was still paying attention to that I had
something to say, But now I'm like, oh, what was it? Lord? Oh? Oh, yes, okay.
So we are supposed to be the shifters of culture,
so the river of life that flows from his throne
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is also supposed to flow out of our belly.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I love it. I've been here all morning. I've been
here all morning talking. Right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We are the agents of change. So if you're being changed,
make sure you're being changed by Father. And then who
are you changing? What are you changing? Are you the
agent of restoration for all of creation? Are you his
voice print in the earth that can shift and change things?
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Or are you so focused on you being changed that
you're not You're not even conscious or intentional about bringing
his voice into the earth, which is of course what
we're here for. We're his ambassadors to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, And I have to say there is a part
of that that as you change, people around you will
notice and they'll change. When you're vocalizing change to some people,
be careful that. I mean, just ask the Lord. There's
the pause again. Lord. When I speak to change, who's
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my audience? When I speak about changing, my audience because
there we have to be sensitive that there are people
who are very challenged by change and to you know,
just be sensitive and compassion and love that there's an
audience if you're going through a change and you're and
you're having a good outcome, which I think change should
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move forward, it should prosper you, it should expand you.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Cause you to be successful.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That those that there are people that the enemy is
like really down on them, like really hard on them
about that and about the whole comparison. You're changing, but
I'm not, and you know all the stuff. So just
be careful and out of that compassion for the person
in front of you, think is this person needing to
hear my testimony of change right now or not?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I know your audience. Yeah. I get around people
who are not interested in being they're not coachable or teachable,
and yet I'm a coacher, coach and the teacher, and
so I have to throttle myself down because it's like
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banging my head against a brick wall. Right, if they're
not coachable and teachable.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I'm we're not ready to receive what you have.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Right, I'm ruining the relationship more than I am helping them.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I think coaches we run into that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, right exactly. So that's where my Lord, I need
you because I have patience and I have to zoo
not say anything and.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Be appreciative that that person is where they are. God
knows that, and he's working and he'll use your prayers
and all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I guess the if we were
to come around for the last circle on the airport
and try to land the plane here, get our landing
gear down. We're talking about stirring yourself up for the
change that the Lord is calling you to do. And
when you get stirred up by culture, by the enemy,
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by fear. Everything is fear based out in the culture,
in the world, social media, everything is is fear based,
and it's all divisive and things like that. When you
get stirred up for that, watch who's stirring you up.
And watch when you're getting stirred up to toward a
negative change, toward toward deepening the rut in your neural
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network of fear or of divisiveness. Oh, I can't love
that person because they think this, you know, just look,
be aware what's getting stirred up, right, now and is
this take that point? Is this me stirring up for
good or stirring up for bad? You know? And if
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it's for bad, you can just say no, not not
receiving it, be teflon, let it slide off, you know,
and then you can actually go in the opposite direction. Lord,
tell me your truth instead. How I want to switch
off this news and I'm put on some worship. I'm
gonna switch. I'm gonna literally make an intentional move to
stir myself up toward the Lord rather than toward something
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that would pull you away from him. Yeah. Yeah, well, Donna,
that was a great question.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What do you want to talk about? Lord? Talk about change? Okay,
talk about change. Yeah, it is the human condition. And yeah,
God is so big. We're always exploring him and never
finding the depth, never finding the bottom.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And just yeah, even in eternity, we want to ever
find them. Yeah, so good, so amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They're going and keep looking and keep experiencing, keep seeking. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, So we would love to hear your comments on
YouTube or Rumble or wherever you're listening to the show.
We appreciate you sharing this out there, especially to people
who get stirred up the wrong way, or people who
are just so stuck and they need to be stirred
up in the right way.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, especially send them this to them.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
If something really touched you and you were like, oh,
that's a word for me, but jotted down in the
comments so other people can see it there and they're
like what are they talking about?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah? Yeah, so good, share the show, like subscribe, do
your best to help us get over those algorithms. Wherever
you're enjoying the show, and until next time
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Take it to the ins degree of I
Well, hello there, welcome to the nth degree. This is
going to be good because we're raw and fresh and
have not conversated yet.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We have not conversated, So if you tune in because
you just want to hear two people who are spiritual
beings like you are, and we're and we're walking with
the Lord and intentionally listening to him. So that's what
this is.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We're a degree. Yeah, we don't even know if we
agree with what we're going to say because we haven't
talked about it. This is literally a raw conversation, right, So.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
If you've ever wanted to be a fly on the wall,
this is that experience.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So as I was walking in here to get on
zoom with Berlin, I was like, Lord, what are what
do you want us to talk about? Holy Spirit? What
do you want us to talk about? We could talk
about it variety of things. What I need? I need
a guidance, I need a direction and I and I
heard in my spirit talk about change, and so I
(01:09):
just said to Berlin, I think, as I asked, totally
spirit would to talk about he's talking about change? You
got any low hanging fruit on that?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And she said, I absolutely do about a half an
hour ago, I just read hag Guy one four are
excuse me, yep, I.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Talk about it? What? Yeah, what's your what's your what's
on your what's in your spirit?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
About that? Well, the thing that I first of all
led the verse is something to the effect of totally
praifi thing that the Lord hag Ice asked the Lord
about building his house, and the Lord said, well, you
live in You guys all live in paneled houses, and
(01:52):
here I sit without a house, So what do you think?
So the verse fourteen is the Lord stirred the heart
of Zeruba Bell who was the governor, and Joshua, who
was the high priest, and he also stirred up the
heart of the remnant of the people. So I said,
(02:12):
I had to look up, Okay, what's the Hebrew stirred
up the heart? What does that mean? And the context
that I original that I approached it from was can
we pray for the Lord to stir hearts or to
change hearts in a situation? Or is that a witchcraft prayer?
(02:33):
And so then I was looking up, Well, if the
Lord stirred up a heart, can we pray to the
Lord to stir up a heart? So then I was
looking at the word stir up and it also means
wake up. And then I was going, I was about
to look at the Septuagint to see if when the Greek,
when they translated the Hebrew into Greek, did they use
(02:56):
the same word that Paul used when he said I
opened the eyes of your heart. I was about to
do that. And when I looked at the time, I'm like,
oh no, I've got to get on with Donna. So
that's what I am in that kind and that research.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I can so identify with Oh no, I've got
to get on with Berlin.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, right. But it's a it's a change, it's
a change of heart. And so when you said do
you have something on change, I'm like, well, here's an
instance where God changed the hearts so that they do
a thing to bring His will into the earth.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, this is a supernatural conversation because my side of
that is before I got on with you, I was
sitting with the Lord and it just bubbled up in
my spirit and came out of my mouth in my
private time. Here stir Lord, I stir up my waters. Lord,
I stir up my heart. Lord, I stir up I
(03:50):
stir me up. Wow, and I think what I would
say this topic of change. Oh Lord, this is fine,
just doing this with you is there are times in
your life where God is changing a thing. Oh boy,
we are in that season. There are times where you
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are working with God to perceive the need for change,
so you're you're colaboring in the change. And then there
are times when the Godhead desires that you stir yourself
up for change. And actually, we humans, I don't care
where you are on the planet, We humans, we need
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change in.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Order to grow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We need the sensation of it, we need the feel
of it, and even the you know when it's difficult,
the pressure of it are difficult. I don't want to
do that. I just can't get myself motivated to open
the door of that change. I know I need to
go through. But we need that actually in the brain
(04:59):
and the neural pawer ways, and and and because as you,
as you then make a decision to move through that change,
you are really expressing the image of God because he
always he He doesn't change, but he changes, right. We
know that because he created seasons, he created time which
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we experience lineally, lineally, but he can see it all
at one time. Yeah, and so we know that he
moves you forward and look at the human condition. You
go for my baby. You know, through decades of life
that's changed everything in that experiences changed, and so and so,
and you change your mind, you change your you know,
(05:42):
Paul says, once I was childish, and I did child
I thought as a child. Now I'm I'm an adult,
and I'm gonna think as an adult, meaning that he
grew up into knowledge or he grew up into understanding.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's a maturation process.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's funny that you said that, because earlier this morning,
I have I have a client whose wife is pregnant
with twins and she's dueing September.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And so's the lord.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I yeah, it's like, oh my gosh, and yeah, exactly.
And so I was also listening to another podcast or
something and they were talking about having a cesarean section.
Is that sea section? Is that whatrean section? So anyway,
I was thinking, wow, I read somewhere that they have
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started making the cesarean section opening a lot smaller so
that the baby has to have feel pressure as they leave,
and make that change that evolving because the studies had
shown that when there was no pressure on the baby,
they tended to go through life more listlessly and without
(06:54):
as much drive and motivation to go after their dreams. Amazing,
It's so amazing that you just said that we need
the change, We need the pressure. Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Need you need to feel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's almost like if you feel.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That it's going to be difficult, I don't want to
do that in the beginning of your processing. That's actually
a great place to start. You're you're right, you can
know you're on You're on step one. Okay, that's actually
a great place. Step one is better than step zero.
So let it, let it go, let it show you
(07:30):
you've already you've already gone from zero to one. You're
already on the first step and now too. It's that
count the cost.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Type of situation.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But then you want to you want to keep going.
That change requires that, growth requires that. But I want
to circle back to something, hm, I want to trok
back to stir up.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, you both said that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, So Brilynn, give me your like, if someone said,
you know, what would you want to say if that
were the topic, stir up? What would you want to say?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know? And then this is probably filtered through the
business that you know. What I do is we have
to pull up our own bootsteps. We have to stir
ourselves up to get on with what we need to
do in our day in order to accomplish the goals,
(08:28):
because sometimes we just don't feel like it and we
have to get over then not today, Lord, I just
want to lay on the couch and or take a
nap or whatever. We have to stir ourselves up, motivate ourselves.
And that's why doing the declarations of the truth of
what God said, who God said you are, and the
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assignment that He has you on, and the urgency of
this assignment, it's so important to continually stir yourself up
to actually go after it and that you can do it.
You do have. I am capable, I am strong enough,
I am courage, He is with me. There are more
with me than there are against me. You know what
I mean. Stir yourself up to just go for it.
(09:14):
So that's when I think of stir up.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think of that, and that's so interesting. Want to
I want to come from a different angle on that
I'm equally true, different facet because that's the expression of
the different I mean, that's the expression of God in you.
This is the expression of God in me. I love
how check Pierce always says that. But so as I
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this morning, out of my experience this morning, when I
was like, okay, I must need to stir myself up,
because that just bubbled right up out of my spirit.
And in fact, I walked around my office singing I'm
gonna stir myself up. I just was like, I'm going
to stir myself up by walking into circle, you know.
I'm just like, Lord, I'm stirring myself up. And all
of a sudden, the Spirit of the Lord spoke and said,
(10:01):
do a new thing. And so I sang to him,
I'm going to do a new thing, you know. And
He's like, no, I really mean to do a new thing.
And so I'm like, okay. So I had to pause
a second. What is this? Look?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, I'm gonna leave my office, which is my quiet place,
you know, and you're and I'm gonna go out to
the back porch. And I went out to the back
porch and they sat there, and the Spirit of God
was out there. As soon as I got out there,
I could feel his presence and he and he goes,
good job, you're doing a new thing. And sometimes stirring
up is to do a new thing. In other words,
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you get complacent and a little bit what's the word comfortable?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And you think you got this right, You think you
got this and so do the demons. Right, so does
the enemy because he's all he's wicked. He's looking how
to trip you up. So just by moving you know
that many steps I could. I was like, oh, this
is this is really my spirit in this way. And
the Lord said this thing to me. He said, your
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soul will follow your spirit when your spirit stirs itself up.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh so good.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm gonna say it again. Your soul will follow your
spirit when your spirit stirs itself up. And I'm like,
we are so dynamic spiritually, so our spirit is so capable.
So I'm talking about the human spirit in Jesus. So
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therefore let me define it. I'm talking about your mingled
spirit with the mingling of the sevenfold spirit of Yahweh
and the spirit of Truth, and the spirit of God
and the spirit of Jesus. And he shows you all things.
But when you concentrate and remember that you are in
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that oneness place as a mingled flame, a mingled smoke,
a mingled wrath, a mingled frequency. That's your spirit, and
your spirit in Jesus is awakened. Now. If you're not
in Jesus.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yet, we got good news for you.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You can ask to be and believe to be and
repent of sin and move into Jesus. Rocket science. But
the soul follows your spirit. So I think it's interesting.
We're a boy soul spirit, and you could try to
stir up yourself in all three different capacities. But what
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works the best my opinion, it is stirring up your spirit.
It's your spirit stirred up.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know. I guess we have different phases that we
go through and sometimes the same thing doesn't work the
same way. And so I wanted to follow that with
when we're looking at stirring up our spirit or using
our spirit to stir up our soul, That's how I
would say, my the way that I think about it, Huh.
(13:08):
We take we're bringing truths from heaven into second Heaven,
our mind, will and emotions where our soul is. So
we're when our mind or our soul and body just
kind of want to black spirit knows the truth. Spirit
knows the urgency of the assignment and the mandate that
you've been given, and so spirit stirs up soul by
(13:32):
you know, doing those affirmations. Now our body follows that,
and at the same time, we could, like for me,
I'll go bounce on the trampoline to get my body
going and then do the the affirmation or the speaking
so that all we've got spirit, soul and body going together,
so that they're no longer fighting each other. I don't
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have frequencies of you know, dull lifelessness writing against No,
we've got to go. This is important to God. This
is doing his will. This is you know what I mean.
I don't have I don't have a fighting there. I
bring everybody online.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Mm hmmm. I like the way you said that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, because we are those three parts, and you can
use becoming aware of your different three parts, that each
of your three parts have senses, a mind, and they
meet in the place of your heart, which is your decider,
your chooser. And I just feel like sometimes you have
(14:32):
to try different things to stir yourself up. Right right now,
I would I would like to say this, if you
feel really stagnant and still still, like the pond is still,
it's got algae on it. What you said a minute
ago is so true. It is the living word of
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the living God that will stir that will begin to
stir that so you can. You can if you feel staged,
ask Father, through Jesus, come and stir my waters.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I believe they we're supposed to learn how to do that,
so that we do it like we are doing it.
Not is merciful and graceful towards you, and he loves
you and he knows your condition. So if you feel
stagnant like a pond, and your living water isn't moving,
isn't flowing, isn't living, then go ahead and ask for help,
(15:30):
because you actually may have a resistance in your atmosphere,
a resistance in your geography. You may have a resistance
of a mind belief in your soul that's acting as
the gatekeeper, and the Holy Spirit will help you understand
which one that is.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I was just gonna say. Music can help to
definitely worship or even just something with a beat that
has is different than you're a slow like bringing yourself
up just by the beats of the music coming up.
But then Obviously, worship and praise also will shift you
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shift your awareness into the presence. And sometimes in the
presence of God, sometimes we slow down and we just
relish in that presence. But sometimes the presence really stirs
us to movement and gets us into the stream so
that we can flow where He's going. Right, So to
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know yourself and know what you need and what type
of worship or praise or or that's important too to
understand how He designed you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I love. There's just nothing more that I love is
getting in the flow with God so that throughout my
day that day, I'm very aware of His presence. What
part of that, well, part of your being is aware
of His presence like that it's your speak it and
so taking time in the morning to get in his presence,
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in front of his beautiful face, standing in his light.
These are all phrases that will help you. And music
is one. Be careful of the type of music. Obviously,
if it's old music, if it's if it's how do
I say this Lord, it'll slay you down. This one
thing will slow you down. If it is last season's music,
(17:35):
especially if it's vocalists. Sometimes that will keep you in
an old cycle. That'll keep your soul in that old
cycle emotionally, and you need a new sound. Interesting, That
new sound will help you stir your water for the
now and the future, present, present to future.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know, that's interesting. Sometimes our worship team reaches into
the wayback machine and pulls something out and it feels
like it feels like it's new. Because here's the reason
is because when that was happening, I'm talking about the
two thousand and ninety nine two thousand kind of range.
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When that was happening, I was just coming into understanding
spirit led, being spirit led. I had been a Christian
because I had grown up Lutheran, but I was so
far from the church, like it had nothing to do
with Holy Spirit, right, So it was around that timeframe
that my spirit started coming online and I was filled
with Holy Spirit. So when I hear those kinds of
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music now, I'm like, I rehearkening back to those times
and it kind of stirs something new in me even
though it's old. So I agree that just just like
five years ago, probably wouldn't do it, that would keep
me stuck. But going back there, you know, and feeling
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those old feelings and remembering, which.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is so interesting if you think about it, because God
may I mean, sound really moves your spirit because it's frequency,
like your spirit is frequency. And so this is why
I think people have to be very careful of what's
coming in the eargate, careful as in, Lord, is this
a good place for me to vibrate? You know? Or
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or do you need or is a better place? And
so an old I gotta clarify because an old sound
can be brought forward. That that is true, okay, And
I've seen worship teams do that, but usually they start
there and they launch into the new or new.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right then then it becomes prophetic and they're seeing the
word of the Lord over it right right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
On the other hand, occasionally, especially if you were in
the if you grew up in the church that did hims,
I mean, some churches still do that, hymns that are
with not a lot of electronic modern sound. Okay. But
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sometimes the Spirit of God will give you a him
You'll hear a himn in your spirit, and it's not
necessarily for the purpose of you go in and find
that on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What he's doing is he wants to redeem a sound
you want to listen to what the lyrics are, and
it's just the phrase probably of that he gave you
he wants to redeem something. Was just show you something
that came out of that era that he wants to
redeem and make new in this present and future part
of you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's so good. Yeah. So coming back to change, I mean,
we're in we've been talking about transition and change quite often.
I mean ever since we started the podcast, right, we
started with transition and change. And I have heard several
different sources that wouldn't have been talking to each other
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or seeing each other. I don't think say that this
because of AI and because of the leaps in technology
and the way the world is shifting, that potentially this
twenty twenty five might be the last year that we're
it's even possible to operate some things without AI, and
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so that's a big shift and change. If twenty twenty
six in six months is going to be like everything
will be AI, it's like wow, Okay, So we really
need to have our discernment on. We have to understand
what is driving us, who who's speaking to us, who
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whose influence are we under the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Need for discernment. Oh my gosh, in our modern time
and where you're going to get your discernment. You're going
to get your discernment mingled with the wisdom of Holy Spirit, right, And.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So the shift and change, they're trying to go in
one direction and the Lord is trying to go in
another direction. So I would say any daily habit that
you have, any routine pattern, anything that any mindset shift
makes sure that you're going in the direction that the
Lord is calling and not just being on the default
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flow of where culture is going. And sometimes I'm going
to tell you it's going to be uncomfortable. I'm going
to just say that going against.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The culture is always uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Exactly when remember we talked about the pressure and the change.
This is will grow you in the way that the
Lord wants to grow you, rather than shape you and
mould you into the brick rather than the living right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It can mold you in the leaning on him more.
It'll grow you up. And if you want to lean
on the Lord more, which I'm always looking where I
want that, it'll grow you in that. And you have
to grow that. That is like a muscle, That is
like as it's a part of your spirit that expands.
(23:19):
Is the is the leaning on him and being aware
of what heaven. It's like, I mean, we've talked about
this so many times I think in this podcast is
that you know, you are a citizen of two places
and to walk bifurcated like that, where you're aware of
what the spirit realm is doing as you're moving about
your your natural Yeah, it really is the you know,
(23:44):
sometimes I set myself like a mini challenge, can I
do this very ordinary thing? And I'll here is an example.
This is a recent example. I had to clean the
window with you know, the glass cleaner. I had to.
It was just I'm like, I've got a god to
stop and clean the window. So I'm like, Lord, I
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want to do this, and hear you. I want to
clean the toilet, and hear you. I want to you know,
I want to do that. And it's like a mini challenge,
can you do that? Sometimes just cleaning your window and
praying in tongues, it's gonna do that. So in that example,
that's what I did, and I was like, Okay, this
is this is okay, this is how I can be
(24:27):
two places in one time, in one space. You know,
I'm in I'm here, but I'm also with you. I'm
also seeing what Heaven is saying to me, and this
Heaven usually is quite busy and talking, right, but sometimes
to you personally, it may just be a moment where
were you and God are just you're just together, You're
(24:50):
you're not necessarily conversating, but you're just you're aware of
one another.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I was being facetious with conversating, of course, I know
you were, I know, right. I hear some people say
words like and sometimes they rub me the wrong way
and sometimes they're funny. So anyway, yeah, I agree. I mean,
we we just need to be so aware of his
(25:17):
presence and aware when we're not in his presence, and
aware that something else has shifted and moved and changed
and taken his presence out of our governess.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Let me also suggest to our audience that change is positive. Okay,
change is positive. So if you have a mindset that
change is negative, take that to the Lord and say,
what what's my deal with this? Yeah? Because I want
to prophesy over the audience. I prophesy that when you
sense a change, and there's many changes, many levels, many
(25:51):
areas of culture that are changing, many thoughts in you
are changing. But when you have a new thought, that
is a change. Change gives an eruption to a new landscape.
And you as a human need the new landscape.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You need it in.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Your spirit, your soul, and your body. It's healthy for you.
And so I prophesy to look for the change in
the landscape as you sense the change, and don't judge
it necessarily automatically, but wait for the spirit of the
Lord to show you if the change in the landscape
you are looking at is what does he want to
(26:30):
do with that? What does he want to grow out
of that? Because every change will cause an eruption on
the landscape somewhere some level.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know you you said something there and it's not
the first time you said it, even in this show.
But we have done whole shows on this. The pause,
the take a moment, the wait a minute, because in
our culture and in our society, we're so about next, next, next, next, next, next,
that we don't take that pause. I know we've done
(27:03):
whole shows on it, but I'm telling you that is
going to be the critical moment of your discerning that
we're That is so important for the way that we're
changing and are you changing toward God or away from him.
It's gonna be in that pause, in that moment, in
(27:25):
that catch his thought on the idea rather than your
thought on the idea or anybody else has sought, any
other spiritual beings or culture that are influencing Is it
their thought or is it God's thoughts? Because I would
venture to say that rarely it can happen, but rarely
will they be the same.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Mm hmm mmmm. It's always good to pause.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
We do talk about that a lot, we do, we do,
we do. It's just like we're gonna drill it, and
we're gonna drill. We're gonna keep saying it until you
get it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah. Oh, I pray that this has really stirred someone's spirit.
That you are feeling the movement and the flow of
the breath of God, that the river of His goodness
that flows from out his throne, that's there for you,
that's alive, that is in filling you with his power,
his might, his love, his appreciation of you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
He is a he.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is thunderstruck by you because you are willing to look
at him and grow with him and seek him and
walk with him and have a lifelong journey.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Oh. I love the way you said that that was good,
and I was still paying attention to that I had
something to say, But now I'm like, oh, what was it? Lord? Oh? Oh, yes, okay.
So we are supposed to be the shifters of culture,
so the river of life that flows from his throne
(28:54):
is also supposed to flow out of our belly.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I love it. I've been here all morning. I've been
here all morning talking. Right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We are the agents of change. So if you're being changed,
make sure you're being changed by Father. And then who
are you changing? What are you changing? Are you the
agent of restoration for all of creation? Are you his
voice print in the earth that can shift and change things?
(29:24):
Or are you so focused on you being changed that
you're not You're not even conscious or intentional about bringing
his voice into the earth, which is of course what
we're here for. We're his ambassadors to do that.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, And I have to say there is a part
of that that as you change, people around you will
notice and they'll change. When you're vocalizing change to some people,
be careful that. I mean, just ask the Lord. There's
the pause again. Lord. When I speak to change, who's
(30:04):
my audience? When I speak about changing, my audience because
there we have to be sensitive that there are people
who are very challenged by change and to you know,
just be sensitive and compassion and love that there's an
audience if you're going through a change and you're and
you're having a good outcome, which I think change should
(30:28):
move forward, it should prosper you, it should expand you.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Cause you to be successful.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That those that there are people that the enemy is
like really down on them, like really hard on them
about that and about the whole comparison. You're changing, but
I'm not, and you know all the stuff. So just
be careful and out of that compassion for the person
in front of you, think is this person needing to
hear my testimony of change right now or not?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I know your audience. Yeah. I get around people
who are not interested in being they're not coachable or teachable,
and yet I'm a coacher, coach and the teacher, and
so I have to throttle myself down because it's like
(31:16):
banging my head against a brick wall. Right, if they're
not coachable and teachable.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I'm we're not ready to receive what you have.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Right, I'm ruining the relationship more than I am helping them.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I think coaches we run into that.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, right exactly. So that's where my Lord, I need
you because I have patience and I have to zoo
not say anything and.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Be appreciative that that person is where they are. God
knows that, and he's working and he'll use your prayers
and all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I guess the if we were
to come around for the last circle on the airport
and try to land the plane here, get our landing
gear down. We're talking about stirring yourself up for the
change that the Lord is calling you to do. And
when you get stirred up by culture, by the enemy,
(32:15):
by fear. Everything is fear based out in the culture,
in the world, social media, everything is is fear based,
and it's all divisive and things like that. When you
get stirred up for that, watch who's stirring you up.
And watch when you're getting stirred up to toward a
negative change, toward toward deepening the rut in your neural
(32:45):
network of fear or of divisiveness. Oh, I can't love
that person because they think this, you know, just look,
be aware what's getting stirred up, right, now and is
this take that point? Is this me stirring up for
good or stirring up for bad? You know? And if
(33:07):
it's for bad, you can just say no, not not
receiving it, be teflon, let it slide off, you know,
and then you can actually go in the opposite direction. Lord,
tell me your truth instead. How I want to switch
off this news and I'm put on some worship. I'm
gonna switch. I'm gonna literally make an intentional move to
stir myself up toward the Lord rather than toward something
(33:31):
that would pull you away from him. Yeah. Yeah, well, Donna,
that was a great question.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What do you want to talk about? Lord? Talk about change? Okay,
talk about change. Yeah, it is the human condition. And yeah,
God is so big. We're always exploring him and never
finding the depth, never finding the bottom.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And just yeah, even in eternity, we want to ever
find them. Yeah, so good, so amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They're going and keep looking and keep experiencing, keep seeking. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, So we would love to hear your comments on
YouTube or Rumble or wherever you're listening to the show.
We appreciate you sharing this out there, especially to people
who get stirred up the wrong way, or people who
are just so stuck and they need to be stirred
up in the right way.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, especially send them this to them.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
If something really touched you and you were like, oh,
that's a word for me, but jotted down in the
comments so other people can see it there and they're
like what are they talking about?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah? Yeah, so good, share the show, like subscribe, do
your best to help us get over those algorithms. Wherever
you're enjoying the show, and until next time
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Take it to the ins degree of I
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