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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello there, Welcome to the Ends Degree with Nubia and Nieper.
It's been a little minute since Donna and I were together.
We've been catching up for quite a while. We've talked
about a lot of things, but now it is time
for God to speak through us to you. So welcome audience.
Welcome Donna.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, thank you, it's good to be back and have
conversation together. Thank you for listening to our listening audience.
And we were just praying and asking the Lord to
fill our mouth and open your ears to hear what
he needs to say to you. He's a powerful God,
he's the most high, and his love is overwhelming to
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our soul sometimes and certainly our spirit vibrates with his love.
So we just embrace you in the spirit realm with
his love, and we're going to talk about language. Let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's so funny because we were earlier. I'm just like, well,
did we talk about language? But really we were talking
about dreams. Dreams is a language, you know. But what
kind of prompted us to say, yeah, let's do it.
Was Lately I've been really paying attention to nuances in
my heavenly language when I well, no, not when I
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first did it, but let's just say about ten years ago,
maybe ish, the Lord gave me a new warring language
and a different one for healing. So I had a
general kind of praise and worship, don't know what to pray.
I'm going to pray in this, But when I was
specifically warring, it sounded a little different. And someone who
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heard it told me I was speaking Hebrew. I don't
speak Hebrew. So I was like, okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You're talking about praying in a prayer language that bypasses
the mind's understanding, which is the praying in the spirit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, and then when I'm praying in praying for healing,
it sounds has like dipthongs in it, and it sounds
kind of Vietnamese Ish or another Asian language that I
don't speak.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So yeah, it is a fascinating journey to pray in tongues.
It is a It's a fascinating journey because I have
the same thing. I have the same testimony that I
have heard my own voice nuanced changes and tonality. And
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you know, your mind is even though you're hearing yourself
pray in the spirit, your mind is like huh, because
it can hear you, and your thinking brain is like, huh,
I mean it's kind of parked over here because you're
engaged in the spirit, but you do hear that. And
I've heard what I would say is a Chinese dialect.
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I've heard what I would call some kind of the
African something, and Asian comes up for me occasionally too.
And then there's been some that I could not put
that in any Earth geography, right, yeah too.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, So especially when all of a sudden I start
I'm saying the same word over and over and over again,
I'm like, what what does that mean? Sometimes I actually
write it down and try to find it, but you
never know what language it is, so it's like, how
do you find it? You have to ask the Lord,
you know. And sometimes it's like it's not for you
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to know, you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
For you to trust, and right like, if it's not
for me to know, it's probably really good that I'm
just knowing at this moment, or it's.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
A really juicy thing that just makes you want to
know more. Let's me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But I will say I I I do have to
remind myself to pray and tongues at times. But then
on the other hand, I have had intense moment where
I've been in the secret place, I've been in quiet
with the Lord, stilling myself in a calmness, and felt
it come up like felt, oh, I'm going to pray
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in times because I'm just going to pray and tongues
and that unction of Holy Spirit that's within me is
needing to express himself. And one time I had the Lord.
I said to the Lord, oh, you know what, I'm
so sorry I haven't prayed about that, you know, referring
to a particular issue, and he goes, yeah, you have,
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and I have? I have?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I have.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He's like, yeah, you have. I'm like when and he's like, yeah,
that was in a ton Oh that's so reassuring. Hard
to know that I didn't even know that I did,
but I did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I I find myself praying in tongues
while I'm listening to a teaching or something, and so like, Lord,
I I don't know, I hope I'm agreeing with the teaching.
I don't know what I'm doing, but there I go.
And what day is Sunday? Sunday? I was listening to
someone teaching and it was really good and I'm taking notes,
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but my my voice, I'm almost like talking the whole
time for like an hour, you know, like I don't
know why, and sometimes I'm like I'm here, you know.
But it was just combing out.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So that's so cool that that is proof of tandem, right,
You're overlay of the spirit realm was upon you and
yet you were writing. That takes some brain power, right intellect,
to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I was paying attention to what they were teaching on
there and writing down this. So I don't know if
I if I was speaking something that told other that
the Lord just needed to be spoken, or if I
was agreeing with that. If I was, I don't know
what I was doing because I don't understand my tongues.
That's very interesting, But it was a nuance. This is
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what I wanted to say, though it was it sounded
a little different than the three I already know. It
was not my normal. It wasn't my warring, and it
wasn't my healing. So yeah, the taste it just hurt,
felt a little different. I was saying different words, and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know, I have been in a gathered gathering of
believers worshiping and had the encounter the experience where almost
everybody in the place is without being told or instructed
or taught. They're just automatically praying in tongues together. I've
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also been in gatherings where the leader has sinsed, we
need to do that, and has asked of when to
do that, but when when it just mushrooms like that
organically from the spirit by the spirit. It's so powerful.
I mean, like, as that happened, I was seeing in
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the spirit earthquakes like huge tectonic plates with just shaking
and vibrating and being moved and nudged. And I'm like,
the experiences like that are they inspire awe in me?
And that's that fear of the Lord, that ahe of God,
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this is God, this is this is an almighty creator.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. Another instance where language has
come up in the last week was I was talking
to a friend and client and I said, do you
hear the difference between when Father or Holy Spirit or
Jesus speaks to you? And He's like no, And sometimes
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I just think it sounds like me. And so I
told him some of my experience and it really meant
a lot to him. He said, Wow, that's going to
change everything. Thank you so much. So let me just
share this and maybe we could talk about it, because
this is the language that the Lord speak to us,
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and this is the way I experience it. So Holy
Spirit is kind of more like this is the one
that sounds most like me because it feels like a nudge,
like oh, I think I need to turn left right here,
or you know, oh I need to not do this,
I need to do this, you know what I mean.
It's just kind of like an unction, that little urge
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to do something different or have a different thought or
you know, follow a little bunny trail. I think, why
am I thinking about this? Okay, what do you want
me to notice about this? Or something like that. So
that feels that's Holy Spirit Jesus is. He's often funny.
He's often irreverent, cracking jokes, doing things as what the
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Religious Spirit would say was inappropriate. And he's also just
kind of matter of fact, like a big brother or
a teacher or something, just like you know, just kind
of a little bit maybe not dry, but he's, you
know what I mean, just kind of serious. He in
a serious tone. He's kind of just there, or or
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he'll be teasing and or like like he did in
the Parables, he speaks in riddles and speaks like just
tell me, you know, and he'll say something else that
doesn't make sense to my natural mind, you know, or
something like that. So Jesus is that kind of a relationship,
kind of different. And then Father God, I was I
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was noticing, I have really two ways to think of
Father God. One daddy and one just so reverent. But
both of them if I'm in presidence of Father God,
and both of them will make me cry, this heavy,
heavy feeling of the weight of his glory in the
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awe and the majesty. Even if he is Daddy, I'm like,
oh my gosh, my Daddy loves me so much. So
both of them are very heavy and weighty, and I
can feel that and they often make me cry. So
those were the three different ways that I experienced it.
So I would love to hear how you experience it, Donna.
And maybe this is helping someone. I hope it's helping it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I hope it is too. You know, for a long
time in my life I didn't hear any voice of God.
But then there was a time where obviously the door
of that was being to me and I was really
working with the Lord about it. Now, I was really
familiar with the scripture, the written word, and so often
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I would hear a verse and then I got to realizing,
that's Holy Spirit. He's bringing the written word to me.
So if he can bring the written word to my
inner man, my thought process, my imagination, my you know, knowledge,
bringing it up to the surface of my conscious mind,
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then he can bring what Jesus is saying as Jesus
is saying it. Because Jesus is alive and he lives
in me, so I can hear it my sheep, hear
my voice, and another day will not follow it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And so.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Then I could hear Jesus. Okay, I could hear him
when he talk to me. And when Jesus comes to
talk to me, he's often like a big brother, but
sometimes he's like a teacher. And sometimes I'll never forget
this one time I was just like, I was like, Jesus,
I just want to be with you right now, where
are you? And all of a sudden it was like
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a big brother just came. And you know how a
brother might just sling it over you and look at
you and how you doing, what's going what's going on,
you know, like that's how he came that time. Wow,
I get to know you in the nuanced way of
big brother. I also have talked to Jesus' bridegroom. I've
also talked to Jesus as I think this would be.
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I guess I would use the word wisdom, just very sober,
matter of fact wisdom. And I think Jesus comes to
us in so many nuanced ways. I know someone that says,
just when you think you know the voice of God,
he'll change his voice. And that's because he's presenting a
different facet to himself. A fractal is different, and he
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shifted you to now know him in this way by
this voice. So I love that when when I see
him as a different and then Father, by the way,
I usually cry when Jesus shows up. When Jesus does
oh wow, oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Just okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But the sense of reverence, to me, it's a sense
of awe. When Father speaks, it's just this like mm hmmm,
and you're receiving something that feels so supportive in the
very depth of your being, and he usually he I
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love it when I'm experiencing an encounter where I am
entertaining the three of them and in the spirit. I
don't really like to see a form, but I know
this over here is Holy Spirit, over here is Jesus,
and over here is Father, and we're just sitting here
like in a garden, and we're just like having this
conversation and like they're talking then then this, you know,
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and like a normal conversation, and yet I'm hearing and
the whole of my being is just sitting there absorbing.
Just I know that they speak in frequency of light,
and I'm a light being. So sometimes I'm like, I
just I'm just going to absorb this frequency. And to me,
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that type of encounter is so special. But it does
require me to get really still.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
If I'm busier, my mind is dad, da da. I
just haven't really work at being super still, but it's possible.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah. When I used to do
the breathing exercises, those that's when I could get my
body to the place where just you know, down down,
you know, nothing itches, nothing needs to twitch or move.
Everything's comfortable, it's the right temperature. You know, nothing is
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scratching me, nothing's I'm just like, you know, your body
just down and then obviously soul, the mind, mind cheddar
can can go too. But one other thing about Father
God I notice is when I hear his voice, it's
almost you can really either it's directly or really relatable
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to scripture, like it will be something that he has
said in the logos word or something that closely resembles it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes, I would have to agree with that. Yeah, as
often as he has spoken immediately, I'm like connecting that
to a verse.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, Jesus not so much, right, but this says crazy stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And you know, here's the thing. One time I was
with Jesus, not with him, but in the spirit with him,
and I was just like, you know, Jesus, I think
I put limits on you of how you speak to
me and show me, show up to me. And I'm
finished with that. I don't want to put limits on you.
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And He's like, yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I'm like, I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Sorry for that, Lord Jesus. I I just want to
let you be you, he said to me. And I
want you to be you in the most kind Like
he just gave me a dozen roses. It was the
most Oh, and that's the other thing. I'm going to
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stop in mid sentence and say this. Usually when Jesus
shows up, I am overwhelmed by beauty and I'm not
even seeing it with what you would call a natural eye.
I am standing in the presence of beautiful, beauty, beauty,
and it's like reverberating on the inside of me, and
I can't get And that's what makes me cry. I
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cannot get over or the beauty.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And I don't have another word for it.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's just that's what.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's the word, right, It's like breathtaking and that that's
biblical too. You know, he's beautiful in his battles of
dress or he's breathtaking in his majesty. Yeah, I get
I get distracted by his beauty sometimes too. And and
it's yes, I'm seeing details that could be beautiful, but
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it's more of a feeling of beauty.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's it's a I agree, it's it's just this overwhelming
acknowledgement that this is the definition of beauty, and and
yet I'm not it's not defining itself in front of me.
It's just like I'm engaged with beauty. I'm I'm I'm
viewing beauty. I'm circling around Beauty. I'm I'm I'm talking
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to beautiful and it just it melts my heart. It
just it'll help you relax. I think when I think
of Jesus and Beauty, I my body just like kind
of mills. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Last night, the Sit and Sound Theater had their production
of Daniel open free for the Memorial Day weekend, and
I went ahead and watched it last night, and oh
my gosh, I would have oil day or Labor Day,
excuse me, labor day, yeah day, and which was yesterday,
which was yesterday exactly, and oh my gosh. I'm a
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theater person. I so I would have loved to have
been in that theater and seen that production live. It
was so phenomenal, even on you know, just in the
in the video of it, it was very moving. So
when you think about there the colors, and they integrated
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cinematography in with the people on the stage, and it
was just the way that they did it was so profound.
And they had they had real animals running around. I'm like,
how did you get the gas to do that? You know, yeah,
like that or you know, like it was like, oh
my gosh. But when you think about all of that,
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all of that, as much as beauty and ah and
wonder as I saw there, like heaven is so much better.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, heavenly and the presence of the Lord and the
light that comes from Father. That light, if you look
into that light long enough, it changed. It just changes
your molecular structure, it changes everything about you. The Lord
has been helping me see him as all the light spectrum,
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which is white light but all and and he's like
I because I often see in the spirit shifting patterns
of light.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm not sure when I'm looking at here Lord, and
He's like, well, I am light, and you're filled with
light as I'm in you, and you're in me, and
we're in the Father, and so there's light expanse in you.
I think all these things are to draw your attention
sometimes to pause, the big pause and ask Lord, Okay,
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what are we Why am I seeing that? Or what's
going on here?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, it's important to ask questions.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, So I'm want to say, oh, go ahead, I
was gonna shift the gear a little bit, and just
to share how I often we're talking about language. The
English language sometimes fails me, and I complain to the Lord.
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I'm whining Lord again again, because the English language is
I feel limited by it to express what the sensation
or the discernment of a of a spirit realm thing
it actually is. Even even dreams, Like sometimes I get
ready to write the dream down and I'm like, oh
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my gosh, where do I even start with this? Usually,
Holy Spirit, will you give me a starting point? But
you've seen it in the dream realm. To put it
down is bringing it out of the spirit realm into
the natural realm. And it just feels like you're trying
to squeeze this ginormous thing into this little bitty space.
And so if you ever feel that way, it's common.
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It's common to those of us who walk with the Lord.
And I would imagine that the Old Testament writers think
about that they didn't have the source at hand, like
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, would would.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Struggle with a word every now and then, But that's
what makes what they did right so interesting. And yeah,
so I think I think profits prophecy when you're prophesying
to someone or you're just working with Holy Spirit to
prophesy and you're not instead of so sometimes I prophisey
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out of a flow of the words of the Holy Spirit.
I'm just the repeater, just really into the realm. But
sometimes I'm giving an image and I have to prophisy
from the image. That's a discerning skilled practice. You have
to practice that. I fin to get skilled, because once again,
you're bringing something out of the spirit into the three
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D realm, and that's kind of squeezing a big thing
down to a lower dimension. And that's where I do
my most whining to the Lord. Okay, Lord, I see that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How do I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Communicate to that in front of me who's hungry to
hear your word and you're obviously releasing this to them.
I need help and words and language. And this is
why sometimes profits are especially learning prophets. When you're learning
to prophesy with the Lord like that, you kind of
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like you're kind of paused because you realize, ah, there's
that tension and what I say matters, and so you're
you know, you're just really I call it pressing in
you just leaning more heavily on the arm of the
Lord to get this communication to the person in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and another thing that happens, and another things that
extends that pause sometimes for me is I have to
not only describe what I'm seeing, but kind of interpret
it to something that would make at least a little
bit of sense. Maybe I don't have the full interpretation,
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and I don't know that we're supposed to have the
full interpretation when we're prophesying, because it probably means something
different to that person and once they receive the partial
then they can finish it. But that that line, that
fine line of describing what I'm seeing or perceiving into
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a language and then a little bit of interpretation so
it makes sense, you know, so that there's a little
bit of context, but not the whole thing. Not the
whole thing, and this was what this means, and this
is related to this, and you know, not all of that,
because at our job as a prophet is not to
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put our own spin on it or pet our own
the way that the Lord speaks to us and what
it means to us on a word to someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Such a good tip. And also, you know the Lord
has also worked with me over the years too to
say prophecy the best you can trust it, we're going
to you know, he's getting the job done. And then
he said this phrase, leave room for Holy Spirit to
finish it exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I love it that way that you said that. Yeah, yeah,
because sometimes you know, I'll say something that I think
the Lord says and it doesn't mean anything to me,
but when I tell them, they're like, oh my gosh,
and they were there. What it does for them is
either puts two thoughts together, or it's a confirmation for something,
or you know, it just brings a memory back that
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makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So and really you're serving that because your light, we're
like Jesus, as believers maturing in him. We are bridging
the gap between their spirit and soul too. We're acting
as the trans dimensional bridge.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Right, We've been.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Given this to say, and so we're in agreement just
to release that into the earth bomb and all of
a sudden it connects with something in them. Already. We
were there. We were that bridge, just like Jesus to
to the one being saved. Is the transditional, the transdimensional
bridge to the Father.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And yeah, yeah, so boy, we've covered a lot. We've
talked about the speaking in tongues and how there are
new and nuances to that, and you might be you
might be reading your destiny scroll. You might be agreeing
with something the Lord is saying. You might be talking
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to angels and releasing their what their next thing needs
to be. You ever know what you're doing when you're
speaking in tongues, But it always says that when you
don't know what to pray, you have that to do.
But it's so fun to hear, like, wow, that sounds different, Lord,
what's different about that? What was I doing? You know?
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It's just I love having those those conversations. I don't
always get an answer, release that can ask the question.
And I'm paying attention, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Very much. So yeah, yeah, well we've covered this a
little bit in depth, I think.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, we didn't talk about the language of dreams,
but that is with Donna in the room, that's like
a week long study.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So well, let me just say I'd bless the listening
audience to receive dreams and to meditate on those dreams
in the secret Place with Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah I do too. All right, you, thank you, Donna.
This has been a great conversation. Thank you to the audience.
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Speaker 2 (27:30):
Take it to the nth degree awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Bye bye
Hello there, Welcome to the Ends Degree with Nubia and Nieper.
It's been a little minute since Donna and I were together.
We've been catching up for quite a while. We've talked
about a lot of things, but now it is time
for God to speak through us to you. So welcome audience.
Welcome Donna.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, thank you, it's good to be back and have
conversation together. Thank you for listening to our listening audience.
And we were just praying and asking the Lord to
fill our mouth and open your ears to hear what
he needs to say to you. He's a powerful God,
he's the most high, and his love is overwhelming to
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our soul sometimes and certainly our spirit vibrates with his love.
So we just embrace you in the spirit realm with
his love, and we're going to talk about language. Let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's so funny because we were earlier. I'm just like, well,
did we talk about language? But really we were talking
about dreams. Dreams is a language, you know. But what
kind of prompted us to say, yeah, let's do it.
Was Lately I've been really paying attention to nuances in
my heavenly language when I well, no, not when I
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first did it, but let's just say about ten years ago,
maybe ish, the Lord gave me a new warring language
and a different one for healing. So I had a
general kind of praise and worship, don't know what to pray.
I'm going to pray in this, But when I was
specifically warring, it sounded a little different. And someone who
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heard it told me I was speaking Hebrew. I don't
speak Hebrew. So I was like, okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You're talking about praying in a prayer language that bypasses
the mind's understanding, which is the praying in the spirit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, and then when I'm praying in praying for healing,
it sounds has like dipthongs in it, and it sounds
kind of Vietnamese Ish or another Asian language that I
don't speak.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So yeah, it is a fascinating journey to pray in tongues.
It is a It's a fascinating journey because I have
the same thing. I have the same testimony that I
have heard my own voice nuanced changes and tonality. And
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you know, your mind is even though you're hearing yourself
pray in the spirit, your mind is like huh, because
it can hear you, and your thinking brain is like, huh,
I mean it's kind of parked over here because you're
engaged in the spirit, but you do hear that. And
I've heard what I would say is a Chinese dialect.
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I've heard what I would call some kind of the
African something, and Asian comes up for me occasionally too.
And then there's been some that I could not put
that in any Earth geography, right, yeah too.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, So especially when all of a sudden I start
I'm saying the same word over and over and over again,
I'm like, what what does that mean? Sometimes I actually
write it down and try to find it, but you
never know what language it is, so it's like, how
do you find it? You have to ask the Lord,
you know. And sometimes it's like it's not for you
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to know, you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
For you to trust, and right like, if it's not
for me to know, it's probably really good that I'm
just knowing at this moment, or it's.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
A really juicy thing that just makes you want to
know more. Let's me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But I will say I I I do have to
remind myself to pray and tongues at times. But then
on the other hand, I have had intense moment where
I've been in the secret place, I've been in quiet
with the Lord, stilling myself in a calmness, and felt
it come up like felt, oh, I'm going to pray
(04:21):
in times because I'm just going to pray and tongues
and that unction of Holy Spirit that's within me is
needing to express himself. And one time I had the Lord.
I said to the Lord, oh, you know what, I'm
so sorry I haven't prayed about that, you know, referring
to a particular issue, and he goes, yeah, you have,
(04:42):
and I have? I have?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I have.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He's like, yeah, you have. I'm like when and he's like, yeah,
that was in a ton Oh that's so reassuring. Hard
to know that I didn't even know that I did,
but I did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I I find myself praying in tongues
while I'm listening to a teaching or something, and so like, Lord,
I I don't know, I hope I'm agreeing with the teaching.
I don't know what I'm doing, but there I go.
And what day is Sunday? Sunday? I was listening to
someone teaching and it was really good and I'm taking notes,
(05:22):
but my my voice, I'm almost like talking the whole
time for like an hour, you know, like I don't
know why, and sometimes I'm like I'm here, you know.
But it was just combing out.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So that's so cool that that is proof of tandem, right,
You're overlay of the spirit realm was upon you and
yet you were writing. That takes some brain power, right intellect,
to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I was paying attention to what they were teaching on
there and writing down this. So I don't know if
I if I was speaking something that told other that
the Lord just needed to be spoken, or if I
was agreeing with that. If I was, I don't know
what I was doing because I don't understand my tongues.
That's very interesting, But it was a nuance. This is
(06:13):
what I wanted to say, though it was it sounded
a little different than the three I already know. It
was not my normal. It wasn't my warring, and it
wasn't my healing. So yeah, the taste it just hurt,
felt a little different. I was saying different words, and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know, I have been in a gathered gathering of
believers worshiping and had the encounter the experience where almost
everybody in the place is without being told or instructed
or taught. They're just automatically praying in tongues together. I've
(06:54):
also been in gatherings where the leader has sinsed, we
need to do that, and has asked of when to
do that, but when when it just mushrooms like that
organically from the spirit by the spirit. It's so powerful.
I mean, like, as that happened, I was seeing in
(07:15):
the spirit earthquakes like huge tectonic plates with just shaking
and vibrating and being moved and nudged. And I'm like,
the experiences like that are they inspire awe in me?
And that's that fear of the Lord, that ahe of God,
(07:37):
this is God, this is this is an almighty creator.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. Another instance where language has
come up in the last week was I was talking
to a friend and client and I said, do you
hear the difference between when Father or Holy Spirit or
Jesus speaks to you? And He's like no, And sometimes
(08:05):
I just think it sounds like me. And so I
told him some of my experience and it really meant
a lot to him. He said, Wow, that's going to
change everything. Thank you so much. So let me just
share this and maybe we could talk about it, because
this is the language that the Lord speak to us,
(08:25):
and this is the way I experience it. So Holy
Spirit is kind of more like this is the one
that sounds most like me because it feels like a nudge,
like oh, I think I need to turn left right here,
or you know, oh I need to not do this,
I need to do this, you know what I mean.
It's just kind of like an unction, that little urge
(08:48):
to do something different or have a different thought or
you know, follow a little bunny trail. I think, why
am I thinking about this? Okay, what do you want
me to notice about this? Or something like that. So
that feels that's Holy Spirit Jesus is. He's often funny.
He's often irreverent, cracking jokes, doing things as what the
(09:14):
Religious Spirit would say was inappropriate. And he's also just
kind of matter of fact, like a big brother or
a teacher or something, just like you know, just kind
of a little bit maybe not dry, but he's, you
know what I mean, just kind of serious. He in
a serious tone. He's kind of just there, or or
(09:37):
he'll be teasing and or like like he did in
the Parables, he speaks in riddles and speaks like just
tell me, you know, and he'll say something else that
doesn't make sense to my natural mind, you know, or
something like that. So Jesus is that kind of a relationship,
kind of different. And then Father God, I was I
(10:00):
was noticing, I have really two ways to think of
Father God. One daddy and one just so reverent. But
both of them if I'm in presidence of Father God,
and both of them will make me cry, this heavy,
heavy feeling of the weight of his glory in the
(10:22):
awe and the majesty. Even if he is Daddy, I'm like,
oh my gosh, my Daddy loves me so much. So
both of them are very heavy and weighty, and I
can feel that and they often make me cry. So
those were the three different ways that I experienced it.
So I would love to hear how you experience it, Donna.
And maybe this is helping someone. I hope it's helping it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I hope it is too. You know, for a long
time in my life I didn't hear any voice of God.
But then there was a time where obviously the door
of that was being to me and I was really
working with the Lord about it. Now, I was really
familiar with the scripture, the written word, and so often
(11:08):
I would hear a verse and then I got to realizing,
that's Holy Spirit. He's bringing the written word to me.
So if he can bring the written word to my
inner man, my thought process, my imagination, my you know, knowledge,
bringing it up to the surface of my conscious mind,
(11:29):
then he can bring what Jesus is saying as Jesus
is saying it. Because Jesus is alive and he lives
in me, so I can hear it my sheep, hear
my voice, and another day will not follow it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And so.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Then I could hear Jesus. Okay, I could hear him
when he talk to me. And when Jesus comes to
talk to me, he's often like a big brother, but
sometimes he's like a teacher. And sometimes I'll never forget
this one time I was just like, I was like, Jesus,
I just want to be with you right now, where
are you? And all of a sudden it was like
(12:06):
a big brother just came. And you know how a
brother might just sling it over you and look at
you and how you doing, what's going what's going on,
you know, like that's how he came that time. Wow,
I get to know you in the nuanced way of
big brother. I also have talked to Jesus' bridegroom. I've
also talked to Jesus as I think this would be.
(12:32):
I guess I would use the word wisdom, just very sober,
matter of fact wisdom. And I think Jesus comes to
us in so many nuanced ways. I know someone that says,
just when you think you know the voice of God,
he'll change his voice. And that's because he's presenting a
different facet to himself. A fractal is different, and he
(12:55):
shifted you to now know him in this way by
this voice. So I love that when when I see
him as a different and then Father, by the way,
I usually cry when Jesus shows up. When Jesus does
oh wow, oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Just okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But the sense of reverence, to me, it's a sense
of awe. When Father speaks, it's just this like mm hmmm,
and you're receiving something that feels so supportive in the
very depth of your being, and he usually he I
(13:37):
love it when I'm experiencing an encounter where I am
entertaining the three of them and in the spirit. I
don't really like to see a form, but I know
this over here is Holy Spirit, over here is Jesus,
and over here is Father, and we're just sitting here
like in a garden, and we're just like having this
conversation and like they're talking then then this, you know,
(13:59):
and like a normal conversation, and yet I'm hearing and
the whole of my being is just sitting there absorbing.
Just I know that they speak in frequency of light,
and I'm a light being. So sometimes I'm like, I
just I'm just going to absorb this frequency. And to me,
(14:19):
that type of encounter is so special. But it does
require me to get really still.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
If I'm busier, my mind is dad, da da. I
just haven't really work at being super still, but it's possible.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah. When I used to do
the breathing exercises, those that's when I could get my
body to the place where just you know, down down,
you know, nothing itches, nothing needs to twitch or move.
Everything's comfortable, it's the right temperature. You know, nothing is
(14:58):
scratching me, nothing's I'm just like, you know, your body
just down and then obviously soul, the mind, mind cheddar
can can go too. But one other thing about Father
God I notice is when I hear his voice, it's
almost you can really either it's directly or really relatable
(15:22):
to scripture, like it will be something that he has
said in the logos word or something that closely resembles it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes, I would have to agree with that. Yeah, as
often as he has spoken immediately, I'm like connecting that
to a verse.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, Jesus not so much, right, but this says crazy stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And you know, here's the thing. One time I was
with Jesus, not with him, but in the spirit with him,
and I was just like, you know, Jesus, I think
I put limits on you of how you speak to
me and show me, show up to me. And I'm
finished with that. I don't want to put limits on you.
(16:10):
And He's like, yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I'm like, I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Sorry for that, Lord Jesus. I I just want to
let you be you, he said to me. And I
want you to be you in the most kind Like
he just gave me a dozen roses. It was the
most Oh, and that's the other thing. I'm going to
(16:38):
stop in mid sentence and say this. Usually when Jesus
shows up, I am overwhelmed by beauty and I'm not
even seeing it with what you would call a natural eye.
I am standing in the presence of beautiful, beauty, beauty,
and it's like reverberating on the inside of me, and
I can't get And that's what makes me cry. I
(16:59):
cannot get over or the beauty.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And I don't have another word for it.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's just that's what.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's the word, right, It's like breathtaking and that that's
biblical too. You know, he's beautiful in his battles of
dress or he's breathtaking in his majesty. Yeah, I get
I get distracted by his beauty sometimes too. And and
it's yes, I'm seeing details that could be beautiful, but
(17:26):
it's more of a feeling of beauty.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's it's a I agree, it's it's just this overwhelming
acknowledgement that this is the definition of beauty, and and
yet I'm not it's not defining itself in front of me.
It's just like I'm engaged with beauty. I'm I'm I'm
viewing beauty. I'm circling around Beauty. I'm I'm I'm talking
(17:51):
to beautiful and it just it melts my heart. It
just it'll help you relax. I think when I think
of Jesus and Beauty, I my body just like kind
of mills. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Last night, the Sit and Sound Theater had their production
of Daniel open free for the Memorial Day weekend, and
I went ahead and watched it last night, and oh
my gosh, I would have oil day or Labor Day,
excuse me, labor day, yeah day, and which was yesterday,
which was yesterday exactly, and oh my gosh. I'm a
(18:30):
theater person. I so I would have loved to have
been in that theater and seen that production live. It
was so phenomenal, even on you know, just in the
in the video of it, it was very moving. So
when you think about there the colors, and they integrated
(18:50):
cinematography in with the people on the stage, and it
was just the way that they did it was so profound.
And they had they had real animals running around. I'm like,
how did you get the gas to do that? You know, yeah,
like that or you know, like it was like, oh
my gosh. But when you think about all of that,
(19:10):
all of that, as much as beauty and ah and
wonder as I saw there, like heaven is so much better.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, heavenly and the presence of the Lord and the
light that comes from Father. That light, if you look
into that light long enough, it changed. It just changes
your molecular structure, it changes everything about you. The Lord
has been helping me see him as all the light spectrum,
(19:41):
which is white light but all and and he's like
I because I often see in the spirit shifting patterns
of light.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm not sure when I'm looking at here Lord, and
He's like, well, I am light, and you're filled with
light as I'm in you, and you're in me, and
we're in the Father, and so there's light expanse in you.
I think all these things are to draw your attention
sometimes to pause, the big pause and ask Lord, Okay,
(20:14):
what are we Why am I seeing that? Or what's
going on here?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, it's important to ask questions.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, So I'm want to say, oh, go ahead, I
was gonna shift the gear a little bit, and just
to share how I often we're talking about language. The
English language sometimes fails me, and I complain to the Lord.
(20:46):
I'm whining Lord again again, because the English language is
I feel limited by it to express what the sensation
or the discernment of a of a spirit realm thing
it actually is. Even even dreams, Like sometimes I get
ready to write the dream down and I'm like, oh
(21:09):
my gosh, where do I even start with this? Usually,
Holy Spirit, will you give me a starting point? But
you've seen it in the dream realm. To put it
down is bringing it out of the spirit realm into
the natural realm. And it just feels like you're trying
to squeeze this ginormous thing into this little bitty space.
And so if you ever feel that way, it's common.
(21:32):
It's common to those of us who walk with the Lord.
And I would imagine that the Old Testament writers think
about that they didn't have the source at hand, like
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, would would.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Struggle with a word every now and then, But that's
what makes what they did right so interesting. And yeah,
so I think I think profits prophecy when you're prophesying
to someone or you're just working with Holy Spirit to
prophesy and you're not instead of so sometimes I prophisey
(22:04):
out of a flow of the words of the Holy Spirit.
I'm just the repeater, just really into the realm. But
sometimes I'm giving an image and I have to prophisy
from the image. That's a discerning skilled practice. You have
to practice that. I fin to get skilled, because once again,
you're bringing something out of the spirit into the three
(22:26):
D realm, and that's kind of squeezing a big thing
down to a lower dimension. And that's where I do
my most whining to the Lord. Okay, Lord, I see that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How do I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Communicate to that in front of me who's hungry to
hear your word and you're obviously releasing this to them.
I need help and words and language. And this is
why sometimes profits are especially learning prophets. When you're learning
to prophesy with the Lord like that, you kind of
(22:57):
like you're kind of paused because you realize, ah, there's
that tension and what I say matters, and so you're
you know, you're just really I call it pressing in
you just leaning more heavily on the arm of the
Lord to get this communication to the person in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and another thing that happens, and another things that
extends that pause sometimes for me is I have to
not only describe what I'm seeing, but kind of interpret
it to something that would make at least a little
bit of sense. Maybe I don't have the full interpretation,
(23:37):
and I don't know that we're supposed to have the
full interpretation when we're prophesying, because it probably means something
different to that person and once they receive the partial
then they can finish it. But that that line, that
fine line of describing what I'm seeing or perceiving into
(23:59):
a language and then a little bit of interpretation so
it makes sense, you know, so that there's a little
bit of context, but not the whole thing. Not the
whole thing, and this was what this means, and this
is related to this, and you know, not all of that,
because at our job as a prophet is not to
(24:19):
put our own spin on it or pet our own
the way that the Lord speaks to us and what
it means to us on a word to someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Such a good tip. And also, you know the Lord
has also worked with me over the years too to
say prophecy the best you can trust it, we're going
to you know, he's getting the job done. And then
he said this phrase, leave room for Holy Spirit to
finish it exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I love it that way that you said that. Yeah, yeah,
because sometimes you know, I'll say something that I think
the Lord says and it doesn't mean anything to me,
but when I tell them, they're like, oh my gosh,
and they were there. What it does for them is
either puts two thoughts together, or it's a confirmation for something,
or you know, it just brings a memory back that
(25:11):
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So and really you're serving that because your light, we're
like Jesus, as believers maturing in him. We are bridging
the gap between their spirit and soul too. We're acting
as the trans dimensional bridge.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Right, We've been.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Given this to say, and so we're in agreement just
to release that into the earth bomb and all of
a sudden it connects with something in them. Already. We
were there. We were that bridge, just like Jesus to
to the one being saved. Is the transditional, the transdimensional
bridge to the Father.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And yeah, yeah, so boy, we've covered a lot. We've
talked about the speaking in tongues and how there are
new and nuances to that, and you might be you
might be reading your destiny scroll. You might be agreeing
with something the Lord is saying. You might be talking
(26:13):
to angels and releasing their what their next thing needs
to be. You ever know what you're doing when you're
speaking in tongues, But it always says that when you
don't know what to pray, you have that to do.
But it's so fun to hear, like, wow, that sounds different, Lord,
what's different about that? What was I doing? You know?
(26:35):
It's just I love having those those conversations. I don't
always get an answer, release that can ask the question.
And I'm paying attention, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Very much. So yeah, yeah, well we've covered this a
little bit in depth, I think.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, we didn't talk about the language of dreams,
but that is with Donna in the room, that's like
a week long study.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So well, let me just say I'd bless the listening
audience to receive dreams and to meditate on those dreams
in the secret Place with Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah I do too. All right, you, thank you, Donna.
This has been a great conversation. Thank you to the audience.
Please subscribe if you haven't on YouTube or Rumble or
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until next time.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Take it to the nth degree awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Bye bye
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