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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, we are laughing already at ourselves as well. Welcome
to the end Degree with Nubie and Nieper. Today is
you know, we usually come to you a little bit raw,
mostly raw. Today is full raw.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Today is a full raw. And this I feel like
this is this is like the new raw us and
so we're just you know, going to be it in
front of people. And anyway, hello to our audience. Thank
you for tuning in so much so today. By the way,
just to give you the backstory, Berlin and I haven't

(00:40):
talked for like two weeks, right right, so we're looking
at each other on the screen visiting and you're getting
to listen in. We started in degree that way because
we felt there were some things between us and our
spiritual giftings that would come out that might be helpful
to other people. And there's a lot of people out

(01:02):
there who love the Lord and belong to him and
don't really have maybe a connecting point to some deeper
things of the Lord, and that's kind of our come from.
So we're sharing transparently and deeply, and if it's too
much for you, we bless you and just ask that
maybe you pause and consider it. And if you need

(01:24):
to take break, take break.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, that's so good. So yeah, when we jumped on,
Donna's like, well, we should just hit record, and so
I'm like well, and in my hesitation then Donna said, well,
unless you had something you were thinking of, and I'm like, well,
it's just everything is new, and She's like, yeah, everything
is new. It's a new year. It's the well, the

(01:51):
civil calendar of Hebrew is the new Year's actually the
seventh month of the biblical Hebrew year tissary, but we're
celebrating Rashashana with it, which is a birthing, so it's
a it's it's a it's a new regardless if it's
the new of the seven month cycle or new of

(02:11):
the year. New, and everything has shifted and changed. I
think that everyone can feel that geopolitically globally. You know,
the weather is changing, just the spiritual atmosphere is changing,
and our personal lives are changing. So many people I've
talked to are just, yeah, exactly feeling that shift, and

(02:33):
businesses are changing. Old clients are coming back to me
and saying, oh, I need a fresh Destiny scroll. You know,
I need to really look at that Kingdom Covenant. I
made because things just are changing. It's not the same.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, right, mine too, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I feel the way that way too. And that's
kind of the impetus behind when I got on this
morning with the upulains. Do you know, I just think
we need we're we're pretty raw and real, but we
need to be And you said realer, sill, raw, realerent, yes,
because we're in a we're in quite a change. You know.

(03:16):
The Lawd's been talking to me a lot, you know,
six months he started talking to me about change. He
showed me recently that in this year of twenty twenty five,
full since especially since March, especially since March, everything in
my life, just about everything in my life has changed.
And that's he told me. You know, you're kind of

(03:40):
like representative of this, like look at your life and
see what's changed. And I'm like, oh, wow, Lord, is
that amount of change coming to the earth. And that's
when he was like, yeah, it is at the start
of the head of the new year, which today is
the first day of the brand new year fifty seven
eighty six in the Hebrew calend And I don't I

(04:03):
didn't know this being a gentile he grew up in
a nominal Protestant faith background. I didn't know anything about
this until I begin to learn. And it matters to God,
his cycles and seasons. It matters to the creative mind
of Yahweh how his cycles and seasons play out. And

(04:29):
He created time for us as a purpose on purpose
and in that time. And this is my biggest thought recently,
is how much blessing, how many gifts and resources and
blessing is tied up in the cycles of God that
we often ignore because we haven't paid attention, or we

(04:51):
haven't had the revelation or you know that kind of thing.
So if you're listening out there and you're like, Okay,
what is she going on and on about? My testimony
is that when I started paying attention to the cycles
and seasons of God, the months and the years, my
relationship with Him got richer. So ask him, teach me

(05:12):
about this God, I want to know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. Yeah. So I almost feel
I can't really tell you what the new is. I
know that there's shifts and changes and new things that
I'm doing in my business. You know, we're we did
one almost a full year right now, we're the very
last part of Kings on Fire, and the new one

(05:38):
that I'm launching is going to be so much bigger, better,
more different, new It's just going to be great. Is
they'll have the same in the fund, some of the
same foundational principles, but the Lord is really dropping some
new nuance. Let me put it that way, new nuance
because it might be a foundational principle because he really

(05:58):
has been saying, listen, we're going kind of far afield
from the biblical traditional foundation, and so what he said
is we're going to go deeper instead of wider. And
I really like that. I have felt that in my

(06:19):
walk with him. I have felt that in the shifts
in me and you know, I'm I had had a
really interesting, surprising, appalling Sunday night that I'll share with you.
But during the night seasons typically is when I'm like, Lord,

(06:39):
am I ready? You know, search my heart? There any
weak piece of my internal structure that won't be able
to handle the new or is not big enough to
handle the new? You know what? Am I ready? M hm?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Oh boy, I'm just dying my head on because I've
been feeling that too, like talking to him, Lord, any
we always mature in the Lord. We return into that
day right and so always maturing. But there are cycles
and seasons, and even in the last month of the Louis,
I've just seen how God's talking to me about Okay,

(07:19):
this little tweak over here and that little tweak over there.
I feel so fathered in that, and I feel blessed
to have those opportunities for learning and growth. He told
me this new year is quite a change in that
it's going to feel like you come right up to
a door. And he told me, don't stop at the threshold,

(07:43):
because your enemy waits to the threshold to stop you.
That is a biblical principle. He stopped at the gate,
and he goes, but go on through. Go on through
with me in time. Don't rush it, but don't lag
stay right with me in time. And let me show
you the expanse of these next years, probably until the

(08:06):
twenty thirty. You know, we're going to have a it's
going to be different, ladies and gentlemen, it's just going
to be different. Your walk with God is changing because
God is changing his release of what he's releasing from heaven.
And one of the big biggest and we have to
talk about this. If you don't want to talk about it, Brilinant,

(08:27):
it's okay, you don't have to all talk about it.
But one of the biggest changes, one of the biggest
I guess moments, was when Charlie Kirk was murdered at
the hands of an assassin. And that came on the

(08:51):
eve of the last day of the last year of
last year, fifty seven eighty five, a year of grace.
And I have no doubt that the Lord will use
the blood of the martyr to do what he planned

(09:12):
to do, and that Charlie's in a good place. I
have no problem about that. But I will tell you
I had to work with my soul quite a bit
on that day. And it was twelve days ago, and
I had to you know, today's twenty third And I've

(09:34):
watched myself grow in those twelve days at an accelerated
path and pace, just just personal stuck and the broadness
of God's goodness and his capability and his power. And

(09:57):
I could probably produce a monologue here or for many minutes,
so I'll spare you. I'll let you throw in turn
your turn. But I had some significant things happened to
me in these last felve days.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, I have had significant things happened to me too.
I don't necessarily correlate them to that public execution, but yeah,
the Lord is just doing something new. And I was
just reminded that one of the things that happened, not

(10:38):
this past Sunday, but the Sunday before is I had
been contemplating an assignment that the Lord was giving me,
of whether or not whether or not it was from him,
first of all, and then second of all, did I
want to take it? Am I ready for this? And
the the person who gave me the prophetic word, had

(11:01):
no idea about the assignment, but he said that I
was going to be the Lord's javelin to he was
throwing me in to pierce the darkness. But it just
occurred to me it probably wasn't a javelin. It was
more of a harpoon because the reason that I'm going

(11:23):
in is to it's attached to a rope. Right, A
harpoon is attached to a rope. A javelin just goes
and it goes right anyway.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
But I think I'm more of a harpoon because then
the point is to snare the thing and then pull
it back, right, So I think that being used as
the Lord's harpoon, I'm like, who am I ready for that?
It is my rope? Strong enough? Am I strong enough?
Am I? You know? And I've been really processing that

(11:54):
new assignment and different than I've been operating in the
last ten years kind of assignment. And I, you know,
I had a lot of teary cries with the Lord,
and like I said, usually during the night seasons, but
sometimes during the day. And I just I know the

(12:19):
repercussions of the assignment. Well I don't know them for sure,
but I can imagine them. And I'm like, Lord and
my I don't want to operate in fear, you know.
I do want to weigh the thing with.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, and I want to operate in savvy wisdom.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yes, exactly, and count the cost, right.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I mean, we're told to do these things right.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. So those are the kinds of things that when
you say everything is shifted and changed in you, those
are the kinds of things that have shifted and changed
in me. Is like, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm going to
do if the Lord is calling me to do it,
I'll I'll do it regardless. But I would rather do
it as well informed and as well prepared as possible.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And yet on the flip side of that, there are
then some things that God he sovereignly puts you in
and you find yourself in them.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
And then it's.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Later you realize, Hull, that was an assignment, and then
you can work with the spirit of God. Did I
fulfill that assignment well or not. One of the things
regarding change is God has started talking to me differently.

(13:35):
He talks to me in dreams a lot, a lot,
a lot, but he has been recently talking to me
in signs and in hearing in the night season. And
God is God, I fully expect that he'll talk to
me in this manner for a while and he'll change again.

(13:55):
That is who God is, and he does this for
a holy, precious purpose in his people. We cannot take
him for granted. He is Holy number one, number two.
He's always growing, he's always expanding, and he's always beckoning
us to catch up with him. And if we get

(14:16):
stuck in our ways and our rats, we are a
detriment to the kingdom, and so too, you know, to
help us, He'll he'll change. I just I found myself
in the last twelve days in a I have prayed

(14:37):
for a long time Lord, and he's told me, okay,
in previous seasons, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm going to
do this thing. And then in the last twelve days
I have found myself in that thing that he told me.
I'm not going to go into the details, but I
just sudden like that, and so much so that I

(14:59):
had to stop and turn to the Lord and say,
oh my gosh, Lord, this is what you meant. This
is what you meant. Here I was thinking it was this,
but this is what you meant, and this is it.
So I didn't write like I had my own idea
about it. But and God was fine, he knew that, right.
But it's almost like when I knew that, I knew,

(15:22):
oh my gosh, this is the word you've been speaking
to me, and I'm in it, like I'm suddenly in it,
and I'm praising you because like I didn't plan it,
I just agreed to it. And to find myself in it.
One of the nuances of that for me has been suddenly,

(15:44):
there are some people in my spheres that are and
unexpected people that are I don't know how to say it,
like they're more open, the more their heart is more
softened to what I might say to that certain stance
in their life, and just to just to just to

(16:08):
reap the harvest of that, because I've been praying for
those people in the background for a long time and
to see that now their field is ready and God
wants to, you know, change them. By the way, in
all of this, it comes back to that word change,

(16:28):
because lest we change, we can't manifest the Kingdom as humans.
And so the work of God, the work of the Church,
is actually to confront in love, but with truth, the
things you believe that you don't even know you believe
that you've been programmed with and or that have come

(16:51):
out of wounds where you accepted the lie of the
enemy because you were your heart was so wounded. And
to have these harvest moments it's come. I'm just thrilled,
but I'm just also in awe.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. So I just feel like someone
or maybe more than one someone in the audience is like, well,
what does that mean, really pressing into the Lord, processing
with the Lord, all of that kind of stuff, because
some people there, you know, another thing that people are

(17:27):
not really taught in church, or or you know something
is new, or you feel like a shift and a
change where you don't know what that looks like, and
you know it depends on what it is for you
and how you operate in the language of God that
you speak, and how He shifts and changes you. So yes,
sometimes in those seasons, his language to us changes, and

(17:50):
we just did an episode on how Heaven speaks. There's
also a component of understanding your authority and understanding that
the Lord has assigned angels and other beings to help
you on your destiny scroll. And it might be ones
that have been with you for your whole life to

(18:11):
help you in general, but it might be ones that
are specifically assigned to the assignment that you're on, or
even to help you through the shift. And yes, some
of my mourning prayers have shifted. You know. I usually say,
you know, open the scroll for the day, put the
things in front of me that I need to see.
But now it's more like, Oh, wow, Lord, I'm going

(18:32):
to need some help unpacking what's going on. I'm going
to need some help. So would you just shine your
spotlight on something or highlight something to me, or have
me meet the right person or be in the right
place at the right time. And some of the unique

(18:55):
connections of emails, like I said, some of the old climate,
old friends, some new, some really unexpected, like oh wow,
I didn't know they were even thinking to me, and
here they'd been thinking a bit want me for a
while to connect with me, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So there's an ase there, there's there, and you want
to you want to ride.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I know I see that say this a lot, but
you want to pray for rain in the season of
ladder rain. So when you see something moving and shifting,
you want to jump on that moving walkway and walk
on it. Because if you just stand still on the
moving walkway, you'll get there at the same time as
someone who is walking off of it, right, But if
you're actually walking on the moving walkway, you'll get there faster.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh that's a word. People, y'all need to pay attention
to that. Go back and rewind. Listen to what she said.
When you see the movement of God moving, go get
in it and move with it. And move with it
just your hand. You're moving in an accelerated way. And
I'm telling you, and I'm gonna I'm just going to

(20:01):
tell you people, if you haven't realized that the shift
for God to touch the people of America is still coming.
It's here. It's here now. There are American terms we
use in church ease, you know church language. We call
it revival and all that stuff. But you can call

(20:22):
it whatever you want to call it. It's a movement
of God and it's him softening the hearts of the
people because He's going to turn the father's hearts back
to the children. It's all about this next generation. It's
all about those who are immature in Christ maturing. Wherever
you feel childish, not childlike, that's a different concept, but childish,

(20:44):
The Lord wants to grow you up. And now's the
season for that. It's available. It's coming right out of heaven,
right out of heaven. And guess what the good news
is That Heaven is in you if you were in
Christ Jesus, and so this change is in you, around you,
within you, by you, and so grab hold of it.
Let God speak the way he wants to speak. Wow,

(21:08):
so much to share?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, I just want to finish my thought on
what it means to the press in and stuff. So
potentially what it means is lingering longer. If you're in
prayer and you usually hear God right away, wait, just
sit longer. Or if you are one who here's the

(21:34):
Lord in nature, get out in nature more often. You know,
it's it's a purposeful, intentional making space in your schedule,
making time in your life, and shutting down distractions and
all of the soul type thoughts and the chatter chatter chatter,

(21:56):
intentionally shutting that down so that he can breathe from
a swind in your sails and give you a more
distinct direction. Change because the the changes, you know, we
talk about it being I you know, I said it,
and Donna said it nuanced and subtle and changes, but

(22:17):
the overall shift is huge. It's big big, It's really big,
really big.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It's global big, it's universe big. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
So so when I'm talking about little, nuanced and shifts
and changes, I'm talking like hour by hour. You said
it that way, you know what I mean, Because this
shift is changed, and you have to be ready because
like next week is going to be very different than
this week, yes, and the week after that will be
very different.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I was telling somebody, I was saying, we're called now
to be nimble, yes. Nimble, nimble yes, and able to
pivot h flexible, flexible, able to pivot, and do not
carry all that baggage from five years ago, ten years ago.
You've got to be with him. He's moving, he's doing something.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
No one part of moving walking on the moving walkways.
You can't be carrying too much stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And expect him to do things different in your life. Okay,
Holy Spirit telling me to talk about this. Are you
finish talk about that?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay. So the Lord is like, remind them, I'm in them.
I am wooing them to the secret place. Now, let
me just define the secret place in broader terms than
maybe what you think, because likely you think, oh, I
gotta go get my Bible, get my pen, get my

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journal and sit and I have to spend this amount
of time and I have to labor over where do
I even open the Bible to listen? People? That is
a form of the secret place. But the secret place
is changing. The secret place is in you, and you're
going to feel him. This is what it's going to

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feel like. This is what it may feel like to you,
and you don't know what that is. It feels like
you're thirsty, I'm not talking in the natural. You're thirsty
and you can't get filled up. You can't get satiated, satiated,
you can't get your thirst satisfied. There's nothing in your
life on the outside. There's not a TV program, there's

(24:24):
not a phone call, there's not an activity, there's not
a sport that is filling you up. You feel thirsty,
and if you feel thirsty, there is only one answer
to that kind of thirst, and it is to turn
your inner self, your inner mind, your thoughts willfully to

(24:46):
God and invite him to speak. That's a secret place
in this hour, That's a secret place. Tell him, I'm listening,
I'm seeing, I'm paying attention. I'm awake. Lord, I'm away.
Speak to your servants, Speak to your daughter, Speak to
your son. Speak Lord here, I am. We are so

(25:07):
in that hour right now, because he has a lot
to say, but mainly he has a lot to release.
When Heaven is ready to release, they're going to release
healings to your soul, healings to your mind, healings to
your heart. They're going to release resources that look like

(25:28):
aha moments. And if you're not turning your inner self
toward him and saying I'm receiving today's AHA moments. Let
him rep Okay, then you haven't invited the God. You haven't.
You haven't received the call and then said here I am,
and it's hourly right now, it's ourly. And the other

(25:53):
thing is, here's another analogy, and all this is scriptural.
You may also feel I'm hungry for something and I
can't find that one thing. You go to the pantry,
you go to the fast food whatever, and it's just
not satisfying you. Guess what that is Holy Spirit on
the inside of you saying I have to feed you

(26:14):
bread of heaven. I have to give you living water.
I'm releasing that. Now, come and turn your inner world,
your thoughts. You're with your wilful decision to do so.
God really honors that, and come to me. Ask me.
You don't have to sit for forty five minutes in

(26:34):
your in your prayer chair. Okay, not this season. You
can get it on the go. You can get it
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, are driving in the shower whatever, doing dishes? Yeah,
you know whatever. Yeah, I'm wakening us up to.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, He's waking us up to the immediacy of our
nearness with him and him with us.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
And so caveat.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I would as a teacher, I would say this, Please,
if you are feeling that, and you're turning your inner
thoughts to the Lord, and you sense or perceive a thought,
a song, a Bible verse, a phrase, grab your phone,
I know you have it very close to you, and

(27:21):
speak it into your notes, speak it into your journal,
thing right that on your phone, whatever, wherever you write
down random things, and I know you do. People, So
immediately immediately make note in the physical realm of what
just came to you out of the spirit realm. And
by this you will prosper. By this, you will multiply.

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By this, you will grow. By this, you will feel
his presence and his nearness, because the moment we take
time to honor what's coming out of heaven is the
moment we begin to have knowledge of this, the wisdom
of this perfect God and what He's trying to say
and do in our life.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So there are several points I want to make you know,
back back earlier in the conversation, I don't know if
it was fifteen minutes ago whatever, you had mentioned that
the Lord was speaking to you in signs and I
immediately went to the signs and wonders that have been
following me. More like when I lay hands on people

(28:27):
and pray, they get healed. And so it's a season
of wow, really effective prayer. And when I, you know,
work with people, they're getting shifts and breakthrough that like
you know they they there's usually stuff happened, but it's
like it's bigger, it's different, it's something new and wow,

(28:50):
I hadn't ever thought of that before, you know, kind
of thing. Yes are going on.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yes, especially praying for others.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, well that's where I was going with this is
pouring out because it's not about us. Yes, we have
to listen for the Lord, but it's really about making
sure that we are pouring out and waking up others.
And let me connect this to the acceleration of first fruits.

(29:20):
Seeing the head of the year, even though it's the
seventh month, doesn't matter, is a time of acceleration of
first fruits. We're looking at Amos nine thirteen where it
says the harvest will overtake the seed. So not only
is are the quickening of the seed and the harvest

(29:41):
of seeds you already planted. Excuse me, I set fruit
and harvest of the seeds you already planted in the
times past. And we're talking about financial seeds, we're talking
about time with the Lord seeds. We're talking about pouring
into someone's life. We're talking about teaching, training, nurturing. All
of the seeds that were planted, the tears that you

(30:03):
cried over things were planted, and the harvest of those
is coming up. But this is also the time to
go ahead and plant seeds right now because they will
harvest right now, harvest so much more quickly in this
season and today that we're recording this the twenty third,

(30:24):
yesterday and today are literally the days where you want
to make Wherever you want to grow in your life
is where you want to plant the seeds. So if
you need financial seed, it's the time to sew and
so big, yes it is. If you need health seed,
it's the time to talk to your body, get yourself,
take communion line, your DNA back up with the Lord's DNA.

(30:46):
You know, call that healing into being, lay hands on yourself,
you know, yes, whatever with yourself. Yeah, So where you
want to go, and it's really important right now. And
also what I was hearing when you were saying that
was chaos and confusion to clarity and confidence. It's a

(31:11):
shift and it's a time. So if you're still in
chaos and confusion, that is not of the Lord, that
is of the enemy to keep you from the clarity
and confidence. It's literally a strategy that they're using in
the buzz of everything going on in the media. You
guys know, probably I'm not. I don't even pay attention.

(31:32):
I don't I like my la la la la. All
of that stuff is keeping you from the clarity and confidence.
But really, all it takes is a decision, a decision
to say, no, I'm not going to sit in clarity
and confidence. I'm going to sit in anticipation if you
don't know what something is.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'm not going to sit in chaos and con.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
And confusion if I don't have the clarity confidence yet.
That middle step is anticipation, yatient, intentionality. Something good is coming.
I'm expecting something shifting and changing, and I'm excited for
it rather than I'm afraid of it. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Are you tracking with me?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm tracking with you one hundred percent. I was just
telling God the other day, Lord, why do so many
of your people think that you are angry and wrathful
and mad, and you love us, You're with us, you
gave your best for us, but you'll see parts of
your soul if you're not careful respond in Like I

(32:37):
was texting somebody something and they're like, they've responded back
with all this negativity about well what if God know
all the anyway it was, I was like, Lord, how
did we get to this place? You change the body?
We have to, and the Lord reminded me we have
a lot of things in second Heaven that are projecting

(32:59):
into the body, and a lot of the body. The
individual members of the bride do not know how to
put on the armor of God, how to hold that
shield of faith up and wait on God.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
And they don't even realize that coming into agreement with
those things is what keeps it in place. Yes, if
you just don't agree with it right.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm just talking to that about with a friend last night.
She's like, well, you know, when this happened and this
poor diagnosis came and this awful threat came, my friend
knew how not to receive it. And I'm like, Jesus,
your people need to understand I said to her, what
do you do?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Because I know what I do.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
When I hear destroying thoughts and high level negativity and
coming out rolling off of a person's mouth, out of
their own programming, I personally say, in my mind, Jesus,
this will not come near me. I forcefully stand against it.

(34:01):
I do it quietly. I'm doing it with God, He's
the one who counts. But I'm telling the universe this
is not going to come near me. I'm in Jesus.
And people don't even know that. Well, some people do this,
but let us know it more.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Right, right. And another thing that I want to point
out about how the universe works is when you are
denying or like saying, the negative of a thing the universe. Okay,
so let's just say, let's just use confusion. I don't

(34:41):
want to name any big things. Let's just use confusion
as okay. And you're sitting there going, I am not
in confusion, confusion. You don't have any part of me.
I am not going to be confused. This looks confusing. No,
you don't look confusing. When you keep focusing on that
negative thing the universe, the spiritual world, it says, oh,

(35:03):
confusion is interesting to them. Their their mind designs give them.
That is how Second Heaven works exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So they're studying us all the time.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So the agreement needs to be not with meditating on
that negative, but rather, Oh, I have clarity right now
in this situation. Thank you for clarity. I am focused,
I am able to see clearly, I am organized. I
you know, it's those kinds of things. And yes, you
might think that this is just an affirmation strategy, but no,

(35:37):
it's renewing of the mind, and it's shifting what the
universe thinks you're interested in, because.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's the evil universe, the Second Heaven, evil bonding.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
The ways that your entire spiritual realm is organized is
it's designed to ride in on the frequency that you're carrying.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
People you are if you're in Jesus and He's in you,
you where you are. The world has no idea who
you really are. And you are extremely powerful against Second
Heaven powers extremely And that's for baby Christians. That's not
even for the mature. The mature know this and they
go more. And I feel like, you know, the Lord

(36:22):
is so good to work with you in your soul.
But right now we are coming to a part where
the shift is also your spirit. Man has got to
lead your life. And if you have soul wounds and
soul traumas and all that it is, please take that
to God and ask him to heal that. You get

(36:43):
to talk to God. That's your inheritance in him. But
if you're not realizing that the shift in the Body
of Christ is to be the spiritual persons that we are,
because how are signs, wonders and miracles, glory realm going
to come into the earth realm. It's not going to
come through your soul realm. It's going to come through

(37:04):
your spirit. Because your spirit is in dwelled by Holy
Spirit and is like the mingling of a flame. And
out of that power, out of that oneness, out of
that access comes what the Kingdom of God wants to
do in this world. And it doesn't come through the soul.

(37:27):
And there's been many times I think, Wow, Lord, you
can say something and you just say it in your
soul and it is like the enemies over there in
the corner laughing at you because you just said that
with your soul. But when you pull your spirit forward,
and there's ways to do that, becoming aware of your
spirit man, that you're a spirit being and going, Okay,

(37:49):
Donna's spirit. Now let's say what we're going to say
that evil will not come near me. And you feel
ten feet tall, I mean ten stories because that's your spirit. Man.
It's a it's a very big change to operate from
soul and spirit. And the Word of God says that
the sword comes to help us divide out the soul

(38:11):
and the spirit.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Meaning since you.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Were a little child, you probably lived in your soul
what you had to for a while. That's a plan
of God. You needed to learn a few things. But
there comes a moment in Christ where our spirit has
to be active and upfront and ready to go. That's
your nimbleness, that's your pivot, that's your and you follow
the spirit into the exploits of God.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That's so good. Yeah. So one other thought that I
was thinking of, as far as you know, you were
saying that it's second heaven, how second Heaven works, But
it's all of it's all that, it's the third Heaven
as well, it's all of spirit. Because if you're sitting
there talking about let's come back to that confusion and
I don't want confusion and all this stuff that you

(38:58):
will be guarded against. Can fusion, that the angels will
come around you and put ship that you don't see confusion.
But the problem is you're not moving into what you
truly want. Like when Jesus when the when the man
was sick, and Jesus said, what do you want? He
had to declare what he truly was. He said, I
want to be healed. Right, So you that's why you

(39:22):
have to literally make the shift from fighting against denying
focusing on what you don't want, and focus on what
you do want. The vision for the future, what do
you want to co create with the Lord? And live
from that moment and keep pulling, use that as a
stake in the future and pull yourself toward it and

(39:42):
pull yourself towarded and play rather than no no, no,
no no, because you're you're still on a hamster wheel
in that moment. You're still stuck.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah. Yeah, And there's a word for what Berlin is describing.
It's a definition of faith. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Intention, That's how faith works.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
You must see the good, so you go to the good.
You'll flow to the good and hope and hope and
good and multiplication and prosperity, and favor, and all that
think on these things is what the Bible says. And
so if you think on those things, the reason he
said that is because he knows evil. Second Heaven, all right,

(40:26):
the second Heaven where the battle really clashes. The kingdoms
of our God and the kingdom of darkness are clashing.
And out of third heavenly places comes the will of God,
the beauty of God, the multiplication of God, the growth
of God, the creative miracles of God, and all that.
But if you're stuck in the chaos of the second Heaven,

(40:50):
I remember, I'll never forget this. Lord told me when
dy he goes, you got to push, you got to
punch through higher. And I'm like, okay, I don't know
what you mean, punch through higher and so so and
then I got it. He's like, go higher, Go above
that crap, Go above that stuff. You don't Your access
to me goes right through that. Don't stop on the

(41:11):
way up. As you are expanding your ascension and understanding
who I am and you and you and me, go bigger,
go wider, go deeper. That's that verse in Ephesians, believe
it or not, and that versus been translated a thousand
million ways. When he finally showed me the capacity of

(41:32):
him and me and me and him to be in
our unitedness to rule from third heavenly places, I was like, oh,
this changes everything. He's like, yeah, that's a good news.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that's good news right there, that's good news. Yeah. Yeah,
this has been so good And we've covered a lot
of topics, but really it's all about you know, I
love that punch higher because that is how you're going
to ride that ride the shift, Well you're going to
ride into the new thing is by punching higher, you know,
getting and when we're talking about punching, we're talking about piercing,

(42:11):
breaking through, at aking through level right.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Right, because the powers and principalities of this world are
parked in that second heaven area and they are going
to stop you. You're going to get impound, You're going
to you can hear the wrong words. This is why
we're told to test the spirits. You can hear all
kinds of projections. Familiar spirits work there, Familial spirits work there.

(42:37):
So you you really have to punch through and practice it.
Practice punching through. Prayers have to punch through. That's another
way to say that too, you're to go higher. The
Godhead is beckoning you to the fullness of your inheritance
in Christ, which is your unitedness with Him. You're united

(43:00):
with Him, trumps and comes and overcomes every second, every
second heaven principality, and you're the last one to know it.
And that's the ship. That's the change. I think we're
going to know it. We're absolutely absolutely going to know it,
and we're going to walk a lot more. We're going

(43:22):
to walk fearlessly, with more boldness and courage. The Lord
recently told me, he said, if you knew how many
times in scripture the word be encouraged, be bold is
actually in there, you'd be going, oh what am I doing?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Dan, Lord, right, so good? So this is this is
a season. Like I said, of those old the old
harvest coming from old seeds that you may have thought died, Well,
they had to die. They had to die in order
to produce fruit, right, they had to be buried in
the ground. And it even talks about Jesus being the
seed that is buried in the ground. He had to

(43:59):
die in order to rise again to new fruit. So
I would encourage you to go back in your journals
and in your notes and look at old prophetic words
that you were given, you know, blow the dust off
of them if they need to, and say, Lord, is
this is this a new well? How do we put
living water on this to refresh this? Because it might

(44:20):
look different like styles change, but then they kind of
they cycle, but they don't look exactly the same. Right,
So it might be on a cycle to come back around,
but it might not look exactly the way that you
were thinking about it then will be different than the
way that you're thinking about it now. And so just
you know, bring those things back up and say, Lord,

(44:43):
I declare that this is going to harvest. That seed
that I planted and it was ten twenty thirty years ago,
whatever it was, is going to come to harvest. So
what is it going to look like now, which is
way different from what I thought it was going to
look like? Then pull those forward, stand on the word
of God, stand on the changes, stand on the shifts,

(45:04):
and prepare your heart to receive. That's the biggest thing
that the Lord has been working with me on is is.
And I know I mentioned that earlier. Is is your
heart ready? Is your character ready? Do you have beliefs
and stories around beliefs that aren't even true. Anything having
to do with shame, regret, guilt, unworthiness, anything like that

(45:31):
is not of God, and you need to let that go.
You need to just cut that thing off, you know,
cut off the head of the snake, because that spirit
is not of God, it's not of you, it's not
of your past, and you don't need to carry it.
You actually can't carry it into your future. So if
you're feeling stuck in uncertain check because those kinds of

(45:52):
things are the tethers that tie you to the past
and have you trying to go forward while you're looking
in the rear view mirror.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So I would include things that frustrate you.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
That's great, because that's what does frustration come out of.
It either comes out of pride or fear.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think frustration comes out comes against us. Frustration is
an emotion that it paralyzes us. We are not effective
when we're frustrated. But how many times do we go
around saying I'm so frustrated with that person, or I'm
so frustrated with the situation, I'm so pressure with the system.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
That's again, that's that denial state.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And once again, you're claiming frustration by thinking that. And
we're not being legalistic here. I mean, Pollyanna, sit down right,
we're not being legalistic. We're talking real raw stuff here. People.
You know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
The renewal of the mind is the probial.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Of the mine. And if you are not renewing your mind,
you are not growing in Christ. And you're going to
get there. Here's the truth. You're going to get before
him and he's going to go. I give you some
opportunities for growth. Why did you shy back? Why did
you pull back? Why were you a coward? We got

(47:08):
to take our.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Stuff, and we first see that as who told you
you were naked?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Who told you you couldn't do what I told you?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I told you that I put my own spirit at
great cost in your body. How come you didn't listen
to him? How come you weren't turning your mind to him?
How about how come you quenched him instead of invited
him to speak? I mean, these are hard truths, and
I'm sorry to sound harsh, but now's the time we

(47:40):
got to get this right, because there's a world to save,
there's a generation to set free. From the bondages of
the evil One, and we are going I'm telling you,
we are going to We're in a harvest moment. We're
going to be harvesting. This is my new statement. I'm harvesting, harvesting.

(48:00):
That's harvesting.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And he who harvests souls is wives. So anytime you
can pour out and you don't have to go full
on Jesus on people, you just say, oh, I like
those earrings, just because all they might have wanted was
to be noticed that day. If something is on your
heart to say to someone, do it, because that's exactly

(48:23):
what they need to hear. And that will they carry
that the rest of the day. Oh wow, someone said
they like my earrings.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
You know, yeah, yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I think back to the memorial service, which was just
a few days ago for Charlie Kirk, and there, yes,
Jesus was lifted up in that place and exalted, and
yet there was a variety of people who were given
access to that platform. And I watched every minute of it,

(48:55):
by the way, and I was exhausted at the end.
I was just exhausted emotionally. I was exhausted from paying attention.
I mean, it was five hours long, and yet I
was so glad and I knew I was right where
I needed to be. And that night I went to
bed early and I woke up at twelve eleven and

(49:17):
I hear the Lord say to me, Lo, I am
with you always. I know his voice because I hear
his voice when I'm in my secret place or when
I'm turning to him, I hear his voice. He's coached
me to hear his voice. I know how to hear
his voice. It was definitely it wasn't Father's voice, it
wasn't Holy Spirit's voice. It was the voice of Jesus.

(49:40):
And I knew in that moment two things were happening.
Number One, he was giving me a truth that my
heart needed because I was a little overwhelmed by all
of that. And number two, he was performing his word
and being my comforter it. And I heard his voice

(50:01):
and I was asleep, people I turn over, I look
at the clock, and I hear him say, lo, or remember,
I'm with you always. And it brought instant tears to
my body. My soul was instantly encouraged, and my spirit
man was like.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Lord, I'll live for you.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I live for this I live to hear you. Yeah, yeah,
I hope that encourages somebody.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yep. The world needs us to put down the things
that are holding us back because he's doing a new thing.
It's a new season, it's a new shift. And for
everyone who hears us, there are millions who don't this podcast,
so share with your friends. But that's not the point.

(50:56):
The point is that there's so many more. The harvest
is plenty, the workers are few, is where I'm going
with this. It's you, if you're hearing the sound of
our voices right now, it's you. He's calling to reap
the harvest, so let go of the things that are
keeping you from doing that. He wants to take you

(51:16):
into a new season, and it's not just for you.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah wow. Well, thank you to our audience. We've kind
of gone deep here. That's kind of who we are.
And we bless you. We bless you to hear God.
We bless you to harvest. We bless you to multiply
and to prosper. We bless you and your family. Our
deepest goal is to see the blessings of God be

(51:43):
made manifest, actually show up in your life, so that
your spirit testifies of the goodness of God without even trying,
and by this the nations are changed.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I agree, and I bless you to recognize quickly when
you're picking up an old habit or coming into agreement
with something old. I bless you to recognize quickly turn
that around and step into His light instead. M agree,
all right, until next time, take it to the ant

(52:17):
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