147: The Kingdom Surge? - The Nth Degree

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, hello there, welcome to the N's degree with Newbia
neiber we're ignoring bad lighting today.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, we are ignoring bad lighting today.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Because we think the word of the Lord needs to
pour out of.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Us exactly, exactly. Welcome to everyone out there. Appreciate you
being here. And so Berlin and I were just sitting
here going, well, do we have anything to record or not?
We do ask the Lord very often what that might
look like. And she asked me a question. I'm like, oh, actually,

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I have an opinion about that.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, so I'll just replay the question. So, don why
do you think? And I don't follow social media, so
I get this third hand, or occasionally I might see
something on YouTube or whatever somebody might mention it. But
why do you think that the churches are being filled
right now and the engagement with Christian organizations on college

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campuses and other where other places are exploding?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Excellent question. So I follow social media loosely, and there's
a lot of people ministries talking about the number of
people that are coming back into a church building or
at least picking up a Bible or becoming open to
having a spiritual conversation about God and Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
In particular, And yeah, I do have a lot of
opinions about that.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Number one, I believe in the prophetic word, that the
word is sent out with a purpose and it never
returns to God empty for that which it was sent out.
And there was a word through Bob Jayes who's now
in heaven quite a while ago, and somebody's going to go,

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I can't believe you don't know the day of that,
but sorry, I don't remember the day to that.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It was Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Jones' Billion Soul Harvest prophetic word. It was very seminal,
it was very pivotal. It was very piercing at the
time that it was given, because at the time it
was given, it was so far from manifestation. And I

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believe we're in the arrow and the era and the
epoch of the billion soul harvest for the Kingdom of God,
for the purpose of revealing the glory of Jesus Christ,
not just that he was savior, because he absolutely was,

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not just because he was the only begotten son of
the God of God in the flesh, because he was,
but because the king that Jesus is building through his
church through his people, are going to so overwhelm the
kingdom of darkness, that the glory is.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Going to be shown, is going to be released.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And so in order for that amount of glory, because
think about how much glory Jesus is worthy of being
released in this physical realm. For that to begin to happen,
we have to have more people on the planet, more
humans on the planet receiving the light of His glory
in their heart, mind, soul, spirit, and body, so that

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in the next era comes not in the next era
like it's a long time, but when that gets to
the fullness, the fullness thereof, we begin to see it
very easily in the physical realm. So I think that
is the word of God behind it. It's the glory
of Jesus. Father is going to glorify Jesus. He's going

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to glorify him magnificently, and he has chosen to do
it through his people, his people being the gentiles of
the world alongside the Messianic Jewish community, and the two
becoming This glorious release of a supernatural power might signs, wonders, healings,

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prophetic words, and the activity of the angels in the
unseen realm bringing all that to pass. So there's one
answer you want to comment before I go.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
On, Well, that just brought that scripture to me about
when you said the fullness thereof and so everyone is
come into unity as one new man. But I don't
remember was that he It's either Hebrews or Ephesians. Those
two are so powerful. I get them mixed up, so

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that just that that speaks, and I you know, I
have and you have the awakening, kind of awakening the
church into the new and the deeper and that deeper,
that more glory that you were talking about, beyond salvation,
but the truth of everything that Jesus did.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I want I want to wake everybody up. I want
them to get into the churches, but I also want
to wake the churches up and make sure that they're
stepping into the new and the deeper glory.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Why don't Yeah, I do too. The glory around that's
available now. Some of the church is still infantile in
but I have I have hope. And here's why I
have hope. This is the other thing I think that's
going on. Well, I have two more points. Okay, here's

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the next one. So recently I was reading something in
a different book and the author was talking about the
Book of Ezra. Now that's not a book that's on
the top of your list right to read, but somehow
it just pinged me. You know, God can use many
things to talk to you, and so it just pinged me,
and I was like, okay, Lord. So the next time,

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I picked up my Bible, and I'm reading right now
the complete Jewish Bible, which is very interesting. If you
haven't picked up that translation, it is most interesting because
it'll get you back to your Jewish roots faster than anything.
But and as gentiles, you know, it's a gentile I

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needed that kind of thing. So anyway, I picked that up,
that translation up again. I go there this morning, just
this morning, Brilain. And the reason I like that translation
is they use words that are not in some of
the other translations to get across the same meaning. But
it says in the first verse of Ezra that the

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spirit of the Lord stirred the spirit of the King
of Persia. Mm hmm okay, And so I just stopped.
I'm like that right there was what it was supposed
to get. The spirit of God who is present in
the earth through the believers. But he's the restrainer of

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evil in the earth right now, Holy Spirit stirred the
human spirit of a human pagan king, king of Persia.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, didn't we talk about stirring this lap And I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
We might have, But that's what I believe is going on,
the spirit of God, who knows that the times and
the seasons of Aris and Epox in his own power
and might not by a human, not by a preacher,
not by a particular person. Although we have seen a

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growing impetus. Every wave has a crest, you know, a
tsunami has a crusting wave at some point, and I
think that crusting wave might have come with the events
around Charlie Kirk. And I know there's a lot of
conspiracies out there right now, and I'm choosing not to

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go down that rabbit hole. However, something is undeniably at
loose in the earth realm, in the physical realm now
that wasn't here prior to that event, and it is
the spirit of God stirring the human spirits of a generation,
a particular pointed, very much highlighted generation of people.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
And it's not my generation. I don't think it's a
generation below me.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think it's a generation below that they're in their
thirties and below, and I think the spirit of God
is stirring their human spirit to find him, to find Jesus,
who is the door of access to Yahweh and Elohim.

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And it's got to do with a timing that was
announced through a prophet.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
God does nothing nless.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
He announced something through the prophets, and it's the beginning
of that. I think it's going to increase larger and
larger and larger. I think it's going to cause many
ripples in the community of those who know Jesus. Notice
I did not say denominations, church buildings, brick and mortar

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down the street that has a cross on it. This
is so much more organic, so much more about a
speaking God who is a creatively eternal spirit who creates

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and holds within his purview the ability to judge where
judgment is necessary with perfection and bless and cause goodness
to arise in the physical realm. I believe the oppression
of the enemy on that generation that's around in their

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thirties and you know, give or take right, it's not
a hardline, but are also a generation so oppressed in spirit, heart, soul, mind,
body by the kingdom of darkness, that the goodness of Father,

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the goodness of Holy Spirit here in the earth, the
counsel of Heaven has determined they're going to rescue. They're
going to build the Ecclecia. They're going to build the
true Church. And by the way, if you're a Christian
in Jesus, following him, learning to listen to his voice

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and see him and learning who you are in him,
you are the Church. And I think that's what we
got going on, and it is rather glorious. And one
more point, it's going to change because of this stirring
of the spirits. It's going to change ripples in what

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we have traditionally known as church denominations and da da
da ways we worship, ways we don't worship, ways we
hear God's voice, see him, ways we experience Him and
the giftings within and that generation that had now to
be grown up that are given by Jesus himself. I

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think it's going to change massively what we have traditionally
known as the church.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, so we did do I just checked. We did
do episode one thirty nine Stir Yourself Up, where we
were talking about stirring yourself. But I hear you, and
I think that one of the things that really when
I think about it, let me start with an.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Encounter that I had.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I've actually had two similar encounters not exactly the same,
but two similar ones where the Lord was dropping fire
down for cleansing, cleansing, healing, purifying, fire in droplets down
and I saw it across the app of the US

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and then across the globe, and I was I was
coming into agreement with what the Lord was doing, and
I was spreading my arms out like the tree of righteousness,
whose leaves are for the healing of the nation, and
the leaves the.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Leaves of my tree.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Let's just go with the you know, the vision that
I saw were dropping and becoming those the fire that
was dropping down. And I really feel like there's a
there's a.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Time for.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Shifting and changing and letting go of those old systems,
those old religious systems, because and it's got there's got
to be some you know how when you wash something,
you have to you know, spread the stuff on it
and you kind of rub it together right so that
it can loosen it up, and then you rinse it off.

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So I think that that rubbing in that friction is
is cleansing in the structure, the old structure of church,
and so potentially this new influx of people who come
with different views and different either never having been in

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church or having been in church when they were children
and now having maybe gone through rebellious time like I did,
and then coming back to church. I think that that's
going to do that do that rubbing, because I think
the old the old guard is going to just say, ah,

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I think it's time for me to retire. And then
the new ones who are coming up in Bible school
and Bible seminary, I think that maybe they're asking more
questions than the generation before never asked. You know, Michael
Heiser is famous for saying he had one clock hour

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of training all through until doctorate in you know, angels
are the supernatural realm, the supernatural yeah, and all of that.
So I think the questions might get asked now because
of you know, they're pressing something new and hopefully God
will stir them up to ask the question so that

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the old status quo of the system and the structure
that is no longer of the milk that God is doing.
You know, it's still it's the old yeah, yeah, we'll
get kind of torn out.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
The glory realm of God has more to do with
your spirit than you're what you're going to have for lunch.
But we've been through some times and testings of how
we learn these things as the bride of Christ. I mean,
the scripture says that the bride is going to have

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to grow up into being free of the wrinkles that
she had on her garment. So that's maturing, and so
the bride is going to grow up. But the bride
also needs to remember she has a bridegroom and Father
is preparing the bride those in Christ in the earth

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to manifest the glory that is the plant. She will
manifest the glory. The scripture also says that when she
does this in the maturity of the fullness of that time.
And I'm talking the corporate bride. So that's a lot
of expressions of individuality within the corporate bride.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
God's okay with that.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
He likes the expression of your individuality, but he loves
that you would submit one to another within the bride
the body, because the body has a head Jesus. But
the bride has to manifest this purity and cleansedness that

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means that all the wise deceptions and stuff that the
Kingdom of Darkness is bringing, she has to rise up
over that. She has to learn to know what that
is separated out and turn from it. And I think
we're just coming into that realization at a greater level
of the spiritualness of faith in Christ and the supernatural,

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meaning it's not natural, it's supernatural, it's over the natural.
In other words, because it's over the natural, has a
greater power and can actually manifest in the lower power
of physical earth and be seen. The disciples did that,
Jesus did that, And whether we start with the individuals

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doing that which we already have by the way, because
in the nineteen fifties it's undeniable fact that there was
gifts of healing released in the earth, that people walked
away from stretchers and gurneys and wheelchairs and all that.
So you know, we've had these movements before. This is
the next movement, and it's a glory real movement.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I believe that.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Okay, let me pause and say that you have to
be mature enough to also hear me say that. If
that is true, then the copycat Kingdom of Darkness is
going to pull the same thing, and so that is
going to grow. But this is why I happen to
think the billion whole soul harvest has begun, is because

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drawing them back to Jesus, which is the truth, the light,
the power source. The relationship you have with Jesus is
your power source, and you then can manifest when you're
together corporately individually too, what the Kingdom of God is doing,
which is far superior than the Kingdom of darkness. The

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Kingdom of Darkness is already a defeated kingdom. But to
prove that out in this realm, we're going to be
giving greater and greater opportunities to choose light, choose manifestations
of the gifts, and demonstrate without paying, without even giving

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a moment's notice to the darkness, but demonstrating the glory
of God. And we need this generation that's coming up
to be added into the church in order to accomplish that. M.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, and you know, the the deception, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
You know, you don't want to let it frighten you,
you don't want to let it scare you. You just
have to press into the truth and just stay grounded
in the word and stray grounded and having daily encounters
with the Lord. He's really been stressing that to me lately.
Even people that I don't have the conversation with our talking.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
About you know how they have to have.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Daily, daily conversations with Jesus like step stepping in and
engaging and having having a dialogue with Jesus and getting
to know his character and getting letting him love on
you and getting letting him tell you who you truly
are so you can let go of the false identity
and the or the things that we've picked up along

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the way. So I think that is going to be
the key in order for the Bride to walk through this.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Season still intact.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean, for me, I think that if I come
sliding into home base, you know, out of breath and
ragged and everything, because I've run the race that I
could definitely run, that would be the way that I
would choose to go rather than you know, living comfortable
and just you know barely like oh yeah, I believe that,

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and you know, walk on in with my pillow and okay,
I mean it. I would rather you know, go full out,
go all out, just run hard after whatever the Lord is,
you know, put the plow that my hands are put on,
you know. So that's why I think that harvest it's
up to us. We can't just walk walk around and

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watch social media and watch everybody else doing the harvest.
I think we we need to what is our role
in the harvest? You know, if we only talk to
one person a month, maybe that's that'll be twelve more
in a year than you've ever done in your lifetime.
I don't know, you know, maybe you're maybe you've talked

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to a lot of people and you've reaped a.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Lot of them.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
But we have wherever we are, we can do more,
and we can be part of this harvest. We can
be part of the harvesters, you know. And it says
the harvest is ready, the labor it's are few. So
I'm not, you know, telling go full full tilt Jesus
on everybody, but you know, he's probably calling for more subtle,

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more nuanced ways to.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Do it these days.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
But we do have to take our part, and we
have to be grounded in the words so that not
only are we not in deception, but we don't need
anybody else if we are out there harvesting into deception,
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
And it pays to have a conversation like this because
all of us me I'm first in this line, need
more courage. We need more boldness, we need more compassion,
we need more love in order to be a better
representation of that God that we stand for. And I

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hesitate to say this.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Let me think if I should say this or not. Okay,
I'll just say it. I'll be bold.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
It seems to me time this is just Donna's tiny
little opinion here, but it seems to me the divide
between dark and light is getting so readily seen, like
you can see it, right, And it can't be if
there comes a point when I look at the events
of the globe and it can't just be humans.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It has to be spirits.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, I mean, as we did an episode on that,
it's like, yeah, this is not a.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Human thought to have, right, So these these spirits and
the Bible is true, it does not. Why are our
warfare is not against a human. Our warfare is against
an unseen being? Those unseen beings, the same unseen beings
in Genesis chapter six, and they've been there, their eternal

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beings that have been around for ancient times, taking on
the persona of the different cultures that that human arrive into,
the different cultures, different nas nations, and they've believe it
or not, they've divided up of the globe and think
that you know, this one's over here and this one's

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over here, and.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
He's got that.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
And when we the church begin embracing this at a
more knowledgeable rate, and we're seeing beyond the natural because
that is our inheritance in Jesus. And I get my
finger out and we're pausing to say to the Lord,

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what do I do about that? Why are you showing
me that? Is there a prayer to pray? Is there
something to do? Or do you just want me to
stand here as a pillar of worship to you, my
great God, worthy of all worship on the planet. Do
you just want me to open my mouth and praise you?

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Because that warfare is exceedingly piercing to the darkness. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Wow. So what Donna was talking about there is not
only in Genesis six, but when she was talking about
the nations, that's Deuteronomy thirty two, when they gave all
of the nations to the seventy little g gods the
baneo Lahem, and he kept Israel for himself, that's all

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in Deuteronomy thirty two if you want a reference for that.
Coming back though to that harvest and being bold and courageous,
one of the things that I have been challenged with
and kind of re sharpening my saw and softening my.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Black and whiteness. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Is that the people who are to be harvested aren't
Christians already. Just like you have to understand, they're coming
from a different worldview. They have a different thought system,
they have, you know, issues, they have rough edges, they
have beliefs that you.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Don't agree with. They have, you know, they need love.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And so when we approach people, I've been really asking
the Lord, let me love you more and let me
give me more compassion to see people the way you
see them.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Because in order for us to be good harvesters.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
And to stir up and jump into the stirring that
the Lord is doing, we're going to have to let
go of some of our preconceived notions and some of
our fear of I don't want to mingle with that crowd,
you know.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
The tax payer or the tax collectors.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
And the prostitutes, right, and just talking about what Jesus
did you know, so we have to kind of go
in with our eyes open and our armor on and
fully aware of what we're doing. But yes, so have
to come with a soft touch. And we can't, like

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I said, go full till Jesus on people because they're
they've probably more than likely been wounded by the church
or and that's why.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Jesus is the word.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
The name Jesus is so offensive, you know. So if
we're going to harvest, we've got to do it.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's in a different way.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes, And also to remember that the religious spirit has
been at work in the globe for a long time, and.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
The religious spirit is evil and mean.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Mean, and so I'm in a different spirit if you're
perceived as someone operating in that religious spirit. This isn't
that Jesus didn't have a religious spirit.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
He had a.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Spirit of love, sound and a sound mind. You know,
he had compassion for the people. This is why I think,
and this is what gets me excited when I think
about future generations, in.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
That the.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Godhead himself is doing this in our in our day,
calling people back to him, back to truth. That doesn't
mean that they're not going to need to grow up
because they are going to have to grow up right,
they're going to change their mind. Quite honestly, They're going
to have to repent of their sin. That's how you
get in the kingdom.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Hard stop realize that you can't do it alone. Yeah,
that is the truth.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
You are not God.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
God is God.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
So that that's pretty much what you're facing.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
But what I see that's exciting is that in.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
That generation God has secret weapons that he's buried and
he's planned for a long time that are going to
pull down powers and principalities out of Second Heaven that
are going to manifest His glory that are going to
be you know, like people are going to run to
that because they see the power of God in that
so much so, and this might feathers that the one

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demonstrating it is not even noticed because they seek God
so much so.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That means that all those.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Who have big platforms or things like that, not that
their reach is bad, but that their name isn't important.
Jesus name is important because He's the power within them
prophesying or healing or setting in order or casting out spirit.
And there's a lot of spirits to be cast out

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and bringing truth and speaking truth in such a way
that when you speak truth with the wisdom of God
and the counsel of God, it will penetrate a heart.
It will penetrate it and it doesn't feel to the
person releasing the truth. It doesn't feel boldness is needed,

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but it doesn't feel hard. In other words, truth is
so sharp, and I think the spirit of truth is
one of those facets of our inheritance and Jesus that well,
I want more of. I want to partner more with
the spirit of truth.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So, Donna, for my next question, do you think that
there are people alive on the earth right now that
will see jesus second coming?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I would like to think that, Yes, yes, yes, how
much like I have to balance my scales here, do
I think it?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Like like a lot? Like eighty percent? Do I think it?
Or do I am I fifty to fifty about it?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think it has to be such that I would
acknowledge the way the planet is right now, there have
to be people on the Earth right now that are
probably going to see the return of Jesus in his
physical body on the Earth.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yes, I do think that is exciting.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
How much of those people I don't know yet?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Are we that close? You had a mistake because you
look at all the history, right, and they drove the
same steak and they were wrong exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I know. Weren't we supposed to get raptured last week?
By the way?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh yeah yeah, all those boss doctrines about the rap.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Gosh so crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Remember people, you you are the church.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
You're here for a reason.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Right, he would have outlet that needs you in the earth,
right exactly in the earth and embrace that, embrace that race.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
With it.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Is just because like we said, we are the harvesters
kind of like if we got raptured out, who's going
to do the harvest?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Like it's such a yeah, it's such an unhealthy perspective.
And listen, I had to come out. I was born
into it, into that doctrine, and I had to come
out of it. I had to settle that in my soul.
I had to get different writers, authors to be seakers
in front of my eyes, to let the Lord work

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with me on that and deliver me from that doctrines
of it was just incorrect.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's yeah, okay, well, thank you so much for that.
And I'm excited about the surge, you know, the surge
of believers or the surge of seekers, the surge of
those willing to take a second look. Look again, Christianity

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might be different than you thought it was. Or actually,
Christianity isn't really the word their kingdom. Hear that kingdom,
but that's what you're called to. The kingdom that might
be different than you thought it was.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
And as certain church, And isn't that amazing that in
the timeframe of the Church now launching more into the
Kingdom of God to manifest the Kingdom of God even
I mean, I identify as a child of God. I identify
as a son of God in Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
There's no gender in that.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
It's a positional word. Would I say to somebody at
the grocery store, I'm a Christian? Yes? Would I want
to say more right behind that?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly because the name of Christian I mean,
it was defiled from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
So opted by the Kingdom of darkness too a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well,
so many different avenues have thought there that we could pursue.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
But yeah, we better land the plane.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
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