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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the nth Degree. Everyone. This is a really
important episode.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just I'm so honored and blessed to be able
to talk about this that we're going to talk about today.
So Donna, thank you so much for jumping on with
me and agreeing to talk about this out loud.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, I think our audience needs to know that we
don't have prescribed notes ever on the nth Degree, and
especially today, we are going to talk to you quite
frankly and quite honestly as gentiles having watched an amazing
and historic moment in the nation of Israel, and we
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don't claim to know it all. We don't claim to
even have done any research because we haven't. But we're
just coming to you to bat around this topic, to
shake it out in front of you. We haven't we
haven't even said to one another what we're going to
talk about on this because that's just not how we
do and Degree. We just get on here and we talk.
We let you in on a conversation. So so here
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we go. We're going to talk about the peace accords
the President Trump and Marco Rubio historically arranged for Israel
and Hamas and all the other names that Hamas and
that go by which are many and that just happened yesterday.
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Yesterday was the prisoner really the hostage release after two
years being held by Hamas in exchange for Palestinian prisoners
that Israel had. That had to happen for the peace
negotiations to take place. And of course if you're at
all connected to the news, you will have this which
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you may not have done is think this through from
a personal level. And so that's what Blynn and I
are going to kind of talk about the personal level
of what all just happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you know, I just always remember growing up and
the thing. I don't know if you did this, Donna,
but I loved watching beauty pageants and I just loved
the glitz and how beautiful the girld were and how
beautiful the dresses were.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But everything that they always said was I want world peace.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, Okay, it got old after a while because
everybody says, oh, I want world peace.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It got so cliched, right, it became exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And then when I grew up a little bit more,
and you realize, oh, what world peace means is peace
in the Middle East, because that's where the conflict had
been raging for hundreds and thousands of years, not hundreds
of thousands, but hundreds and thousands, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It just became such.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like a hopeless almost like a hopeless situation like, ah,
they're always going to be fighting, eh, and that'll never end,
you know, Ah, there's always something you know. So that
that's what rang to me yesterday in my in my
heart as far as.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Like almost brought me to tears, like what is this
really real? Am I am?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I dreaming like like right now, like pinch me, you know,
because I'm a you know, jen exer, and so all
of my life it's been fighting in the Middle East,
you know. So that's I mean, it's almost like an
entire paradigm shift. Even though I'm not on the world stage,
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I am not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
A global you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Whatever, it doesn't affect you so much, but it just
becomes part of your normal, like part of this is
the way the world is. And so that underlying foundational
piece of this is the way the world is just
totally got wow changed taken away. You know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yes, you have to make quite an adjustment in your
thinking about what has happened, because it's that much a
change and that it even happened to me, I was
telling brilliant. I was like, just in, I've been in
awe of God all yesterday, watching the videos of the
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hostages excuse me come back to their loved ones, watching
the buses take the Palestinian prisoners back into their area,
hearing the President Trump speak to the knesse at watching
then he goes on to Egypt and thirty nine countries
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gather to sign this piece accord. The amount of impossibility
for this to have happened in my lifetime is outrageous,
and so that it has happened proves to me that
God nothing is impossible with God. Yeah. Just the other
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thing I see, and this is because I'm a Christian,
so and having locked a journey with the Lord, I
can see and being taught of the Lord and those
in the body about the Jewishness of my Savior is
the overlay of scripture, the overlay of the timing for
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this historic event. And I think this is what you
can miss if you're a gentile and you don't know
these things. And so I just want to mention a
few of them. So the prisoners. Twenty prisoners were released
from the excuse me. The hostages were released twenty and
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every single planned and purposed moment of that exchange went
off without a hitch. And that's another impossibility. Nobody pulled
out a gun. Nobody, I mean it went off without
a hitch. That is the grace of God. I have
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also heard people that are in Israel that have Messianic
ministries in Israel, and there's a few I could talk
about that if you're interested in hearing their take on this,
I know I was. I was very gratified to hear them.
You can check out Kurt Landry c u RT Kurt
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Landry Ministries at House of David. You can check out
Amanda Grace at Arc of Grace Ministries. And to Kun
Global is a is a Messianic ministry to Israel and
it's t I k k U N Global to Kun
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and which means restoration. To Kun means restoration. But anyway
to get their take on some of this, it was
it was fascinating to me and help me to understand.
The timing was just outrageously amazing because they were released
on the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which
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is the fall feast that begins with Russiashana and ends
with the with Simcotra, which is today. And so the
eighth day of the feast was when they were released.
And I mean, you could not have tried to make
that happen. That's a God thing in my opinion. Did
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you know all that brilin.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I did not. No, that is so amazing and so
God right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So God yes. And here's another thing, And this one
blew me away because I personally stumbled into this. So
there are portions of the Torah and the Old Testament
that the Jewish people read worldwide in every synagogue, and
there's they have like chapters that you read, and then
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at the festivals they have added portions of the Old
Testament that you read. And so Messianic Jewish people have
added in the New Testament in like manner. And so
there's you know, different passages that you read every single day.
You can find this online, you can find this in
a lot of places. But I was looking at what
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do the Jewish people read in the synagogue on the
last day, the eighth day of these tabernacles, which is
to coat, and so I thought, I'm gonna go read it. Well,
there was three different ones and I went to the
first one, which is First Kings, and it's where Solomon
is dedicating the temple to God in Jerusalem and what
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he does, the measures that he takes to dedicate and
offer the best of what they have. In First Kings,
it says that Solomon offered and I'm going to have
the numbers wrong, but it's like one hundred and twenty
two thousand oxen and one hundred and forty two thousand sheep,
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you know, it's like in the thousands, okay. And he
calls it a peace offering. Solomon, he was the king
of Isray. He called it this peace offering and the
dedication of the temple, which was the place of worship
to Almighty God. Yeah wah, and so much so that
the normal offerings for that day had to be moved
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out to the courtyard, which was very unusual, and they
had to be moved out to the more public area
instead of being done in the in the temple, in
Solomon's temple. And the reason was because there was so
much peace offerings being offered. Now, you can't make that up.
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Solomon's peace offering and the peace accords that were signed
by thirty nine countries and President Trump was and Marc
Rubio were central in that and that reading of scripture.
If that doesn't make you drop your jaw and just
be in awe of God, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well wow, wow, wow, all love it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And another thing, Amanda Grace was saying about twenty prisoners
and she alludes that to Exodus twenty. Well, if you
go read Exodus twenty, it is about the children of
Israel coming out of Egypt and that was their moment
of freedom from captivity. Wow. Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They're so good. And I recently saw something about you know,
one of the prophecies is that they're going to rebuild
the Temple, and I recently saw something about that. People
have been thinking they're talking about on the Temple, not
which is currently controlled by Muslims, but really the temple
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was in the city of David, which is a different
part of Jerusalem. And I was just wondering if any
of that plays in you know, like I said, I
didn't do any research, and I'm certainly not a scholar
on Israel, pretty far from it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But you know, when when.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Something comes to my attention on social media, that's a
big deal. Because I'm not a social media person, and
so I said, Okay, Lord, what do you need me?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
What do I need to know? How do you want
me to pray? You know, how do I want?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I think that one of the things that the
Lord was saying is just I'm potentially you know, who
knows what the longer view is. But for today, for today,
I feel like I'm praying for that the peace will
just last, that everything will settle down, and that it
will be a lasting piece, you know, it will be
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able to be sustained, sustainable, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
And you know, with that Brilin, I think you have
to be a savvy modern Christian and you have to
realize that just like in the United States government, there
are factions at war in our government, there are factions
at war in the Israeli government. In the modern government,
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you're going to have hawks and doves, just like you
have them in ours. And so, you know, someone was
pointing out that, you know, beating at Yahoo, he is
both liked and not liked in that nation, same with
our president, and most people like him, but there's a
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few that don't. And so you have to realize that
each of those factions this makes it even more explosive
of a miracle in my opinion that those factions are
at work, but God, but God did it. And as
far as the peace and will it last, I really
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think it's going to last. Are we going to have
some bumps on the piece read? We might? Right? But
overall and I and God has taught me to look
at the larger picture in order to gain peace for
my soul is to look at a larger picture. I
believe where if we've entered an era of peace, I
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believe President Trump was the only president that could have
done that, the only world leader who could have done that.
It's very significant who was and was not in the
thirty nine countries that signed the peace accord. Putin was
not invited to the party. That can be an issue,
of course, China wasn't there. But the people that were
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there very significant. Turkey was there, very significant. Egypt was there.
That's very significant that they would even show up, much
less sign their country's name on the accord. Very very
It's indicative, I guess I want to say this, it's
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indicative of a wind of change, of a weather of
change here. And so let you if you're a Christian
and you're listening to this let your spirit man rise
up in faith, call what is not as if is
this peace accord will last, this piece of chord will last,
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and we declare it in Jesus' name. What it turns
out to be, I believe will be an increase in peace,
like like like a crescendo in peace for an era.
What do you think about this? Those thoughts?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I do? I mean, I really do feel like the
good side of the quote golden Age is arriving. It's
on the way, and it's there's a lot of fighting
against it and all of that stuff. We want to
pull down the structures of it. But I do I
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feel like there's a breath of release, a weight being
lifted off, fresh wind in the sales. I mean, you
look at the economy, you look at all of the
amazing shifts and changes that have already happened. And yes,
as you know, the the light is more powerful, the
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darkness gets more powerful too. But but we get to win,
and we have to maintain that belief of it's going
to it's going to work out and it's going to
do that. So but one other thing that you know,
for me begs the question, because it's just been on
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my heart for several years now, and I've this one
I have studied about and I have looked into it.
Doctor Laura Sanger talks about it is that Israel is
different than the Israil of the Bible because of the
Zionist movement. So the caveat I always want to say,
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is Lord, let your will be done, because we don't
know who is who. It's so tangled up right now.
We don't know if you know, the people who call
themselves Israeli are Jewish or not. And it doesn't really
matter because we we just have to pray that His
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will would be done. And for right now, like you said,
I think his will is for there to be a
piece for this season, for this this era of time.
Who knows how long that will last, but for now,
there's a there's this piece I think that's coming, and
there's this release of us being able to really step
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into our authority, step into our destiny, really move forward
at an accelerated pace and bring His will into the earth.
It's almost like, you know, the floodgates have been opened,
and it's not a time to sit back on our
heels or rest on our loyals or take it easy.
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It's a time to charge forward. And I know that
we've talked about this in the past. Is you know,
the verse in Zacharaia says, pray for rain in the
days of rain like right, we've got to move forward
during this time of the fresh wind. Get your sail up.
Don't sit there, you know, just floating on the top
of the water. There's a wind to blow you in
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the right direction of your destiny. In the deeper intimacy
with the Lord, a deeper understanding of how everything the
spirit realm works and who you are all of it,
all of it, and deeper understanding of what your piece
of the puzzle looks like, because probably the people who
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are hearing our voice don't have a piece of the
puzzle necessarily in Israel. But it's an indicator, it's a marker.
It's a very historical, big marker in the spirit realm
and in the natural that we can use to charge forward.
You know, the Bible says that the gates of Hell
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will not stand against the Church, against not just Church Ecclasia,
the governing body, those who are understanding their authority and
going for authority. And I think this is the moment
when the gates of hell won't stand. It's just it's
it's not going to withstand if we press forward and
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we move forward, we believe for peace, and we say yes,
we take this sign as a sign of your will
being done in the earth. Yes, we say yes and
amen to your purposes. And we say yes and amen
to whatever our piece of the puzzle is.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I agree with that. So the eclesia, the called out ones,
we have to keep praying, we have to keep declaring,
we have to keep exalting our king and watch him.
I have a friend that says, God often says to her,
meet me where I'm already working. And I'm like, that's
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so good, because in this God is doing a thing.
He's working, he's working out something. So we the Eqlesea,
have to be agreeing from the earth realm to vob
or to pull down, connecting the will of God in
heaven to the earth realm. That's the role of the believer.
That's the role of an eclesa, which is a gathered
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group administrating the King's will in the earth realm. There's
so many different ways you can talk about these historic events,
but I will mention this that yesterday, last night, I
was doing something random and the Holy Spirit spoke to
me and he said, you need to put today's activities
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in your journal.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I was like, when I just heard you say that, like,
go back and mark this day. And it gave me
such hope. It's the hope of our calling right that
we see the goodness of God in the land of
the living. And it's also the hope of a faithful God. So,
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no matter what you think of Israel and modern day politics,
Israel's been there and Jerusalem is a cup of trembling
to the nations. So what happens in Jerusalem is going
to affect the entire planet politically, geopolitically, all that. And
so it almost is like to me, it calls me
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up and makes me go, oh yeah, I need to
pay attention to this. This is not just kind of important.
This is very important to the God of my Savior,
Jesus Christ, my father in heaven. It's it's important because
He's going to use Jerusalem and the events in and
around Israel too as a sign to show you the
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times and the seasons that we're living in and just
to think like God thinks. And it's so different from
how many of us were you know, have come into
Jesus and are saved. But it's just a different mentality.
It's getting to know God by watching what he says.
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And that's why the word of God is so important,
the logos, printed word, the scriptures that we have because
they're living and that yes they were written historically, but
they still speak. They're very much a vibrant and speaking today.
And I'm just awed by that very often.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, another hope verse that came to mind when you
were saying that is Christ in you the hope of glory. Right,
So Christ is in us, so we can hope for
his glory. You know, we can't we can bring his
glory because we are the hope. We are the hope dealers,
but we are the hope. When we step into a room,
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there should the hope should increase, you know, his work
should increase.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Because I love the way you say that. Yeah, when
we step in the room, the hope should increase. It's
kind of convicting, right, And you know, blessed are the peacemakers.
The scripture that is a living word. Blessed are the peacemakers. Well,
if the highest office of our nation just blessed Israel
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with helping them by being a peacemaker. Yahweh is faithful
to his word. He's going to bless that nation that's us.
And so what does blessing look like. Well, it can
look like prosperity. It can look like harvest, meaning the
souls of men and women turning back to God, getting healed,
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getting blessed, getting mentally healed, emotionally healed, physically healed. I
believe all of these things are going to increase in
an era of peace, because I believe it's harvest time.
And that's a word I believe, just because I'm my
ear is to the prophets, the modern prophets, My ear
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is to watching as a watchman on the wall. What
are these events significant of God? What you're definitely doing something?
Help me be alert and awake to that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. And you know, I don't
mean to be self promoting, but I do. I mean,
this is I am walking with God. I am walking
in his timing and the timing of this and the
timing of Him doing a new thing in my Kings
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on Fire program. My goodness, we're we're He's showing me
some some things that we're going to be doing that.
I don't even know yet, Like, oh Lord, you're going
to have to teach me, because he's doing a new
thing in the earth, just up leveling understanding who we are,
up leveling under our understanding of who he is. You know.
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Maybe even we're going to be doing the names of
God and how we express names of God. I don't know,
but it's it's it's going to be I don't know.
I'm like, it's going to be epic, and I'm like,
oh Lord, I don't even know if I'm up to
the task of doing this, you know, but he it's
his hand is on it, his will is on it,
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and it's for such a time as this and everything
that you just said, and even us being the hope
for the world and being blessed and praying for the
blessing and moving where he's already working, stepping into the
stream that he's already got flowing. It's all part of it.
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And I'm just I'm so honored and humbled and blessed
to be used, you know, by the Lord. That's just
Oh my goodness, Donna.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yes, I'm just humbled to be here living this out
and you know, like I wasn't living in nineteen forty
eight when Israel became a nation in a day. You
know that that was a very significant pointer in time.
You guys don't know that you can go back and
look at that historically. Yeah, I think the reason Holy
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Spirit said for me to mark this in my journals.
He wanted me to mark my personal take on this,
my how did this affect my walk with a god
who was so faithful to his covenant that in twenty
twenty five, after two years of some pretty severe heartache,
he is faithful to his nation. And no matter what
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you think about modern Israel, the God of Covenant was
showed up on Monday, the thirteenth of October, the God
of Covenant and the angel armies of his covenantness toward
his people, whom he said, these are my people. That
was on display. And if it was on display to people,
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it was also on display to powers and principalities of darkness.
And that just makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And I was just wondering, like, oh my gosh, what
did that look like in the spirit realm, in the
in the days leading up to it, or however long
you know of these mighty warrior angels, keeping the peace making,
letting the hostages all be you know, transferred to where
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they need to go, brought home, brought brought restoration, all
of that stuff that I just would love to be
able to have seen all of that, what's going on
in the heavenly realms. And you know, the gnashing of
teeth that the enemy had over it, the defeated loser,
the defeated loser exactly, that's to kick him in the
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teeth down.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah. So moving then to just looking at how people
are going to look at this, because the media is
always putting it in front of your face. You know,
what's now going to happen to Gaza and all this stuff.
And I heard someone that would know say this that
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the tunnel system that's under Gaza has to be taken out.
And the tunnel system you and I might think of,
oh a little tunnel that was dug by a little
hand shovel. These tunnels, ladies and gentlemen, are big enough
for a tractor trailer truck to drive through with ease.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Even passing each other.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, under that, under that area, so miles little shocking
and eye opening for me, you know. And so I'm
like Okay, Lord, I guess that is going to have
to be taken care of. Well, we're going to see
the idea, take the take take care of that situation.
They have to do that in order to preserve the
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peace for the pieces you continue, that has to be done.
So that's why I say we're this isn't all over.
And I'm not Pollyanna about this, but I am owed
at my God, and I will be the first to
say that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah. And those tunnels extend under Israel as well. I
mean Israel's what only seven or nine miles wide, it's
crazy tiny rh So those those tunnels are you know,
a lot. I don't want to say hundreds of miles,
but it probably is not too much of an exaggeration.
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So it's all over the area that so who knows
what's going to happen to all of that and how
that is going to be removed. And it might look
it might look scary, and it might you know, cause
problems again, but my goodness, the butt God, but God, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So I just want to I don't think we need
to belabor all this. I just wanted to knock it
around in front of people, you know, because I think
what my hope for this episode is that you get
keyed into God time, God's times and what's happening in
the modern world, and then you just let it affect you,
let it settle in your your thought pattern because the
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thought patterns of the world are changing because something is
historic as this has happened, and yeah, to let it
be part of you too. So you're not one hundred
percent ignorant as a gentile, which most of us kind
of feel that way sometimes, but but you're you're a
little bit aware and you have some talking points.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's good, and don't believe everything you hear.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yes, and everything on the internet is not the truth exactly,
be discerning, keep the faith.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
And speaking of that if there if you ever see
a video of a person either just like saying words
and they're not saying what they you think that they
would say, just go look in the description. Right now
as of right now they're the AI produced videos. They
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have to have a disclaimer how this content was created.
So just look in the description because it will tell
you this is it's a synthetic. It's been altered as
there's words that they have to use. And I hope
that that continues that they continue to have to say that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I do. I do hope that as well. That's another
reason when there's historic events going on, go find a
live feed recording and look for that disclaimer because they'll
put words in ai is and computer graphics are very
you know, intelligent to do these things. So that's the
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reason I like to get on a live feed. I
want to hear it from the horse's mouth, you know,
I want to hear the whole thing, and not not
necessarily maybe secondarily, but not firsthand. Do I want to
hear somebody's thought on it. I want to hear the event.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yep, I would totally agree. Yeah, and you know it's
a it's an era of deep fakes, and so just
you know, be aware. I like people that I know
know better will send me stuff. I'm like, this guy
didn't really say that. Yeah, I mean it's anyway, I
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don't want to get on that different different episode, isn't it,
Donna just pray for pray for Israel. Uh, you know,
God's Israel or you know, why would we not pray
for anybody anyway?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, you know what I mean, even Israel is lost.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The exactly, it's a secularation, So you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Be praying for the unity of the fay right in Israel.
And there are messianitgies. They're a small portion of the population,
but they're there.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, they are all right. Thank you, Thank you
Donna for tossing this back and forth and informing me
on some things that I didn't know. I appreciate that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (34:15):
It to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good Bye,
Welcome to the nth Degree. Everyone. This is a really
important episode.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just I'm so honored and blessed to be able
to talk about this that we're going to talk about today.
So Donna, thank you so much for jumping on with
me and agreeing to talk about this out loud.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, I think our audience needs to know that we
don't have prescribed notes ever on the nth Degree, and
especially today, we are going to talk to you quite
frankly and quite honestly as gentiles having watched an amazing
and historic moment in the nation of Israel, and we
(00:50):
don't claim to know it all. We don't claim to
even have done any research because we haven't. But we're
just coming to you to bat around this topic, to
shake it out in front of you. We haven't we
haven't even said to one another what we're going to
talk about on this because that's just not how we
do and Degree. We just get on here and we talk.
We let you in on a conversation. So so here
(01:15):
we go. We're going to talk about the peace accords
the President Trump and Marco Rubio historically arranged for Israel
and Hamas and all the other names that Hamas and
that go by which are many and that just happened yesterday.
(01:38):
Yesterday was the prisoner really the hostage release after two
years being held by Hamas in exchange for Palestinian prisoners
that Israel had. That had to happen for the peace
negotiations to take place. And of course if you're at
all connected to the news, you will have this which
(02:00):
you may not have done is think this through from
a personal level. And so that's what Blynn and I
are going to kind of talk about the personal level
of what all just happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, you know, I just always remember growing up and
the thing. I don't know if you did this, Donna,
but I loved watching beauty pageants and I just loved
the glitz and how beautiful the girld were and how
beautiful the dresses were.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But everything that they always said was I want world peace.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, Okay, it got old after a while because
everybody says, oh, I want world peace.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It got so cliched, right, it became exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And then when I grew up a little bit more,
and you realize, oh, what world peace means is peace
in the Middle East, because that's where the conflict had
been raging for hundreds and thousands of years, not hundreds
of thousands, but hundreds and thousands, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It just became such.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like a hopeless almost like a hopeless situation like, ah,
they're always going to be fighting, eh, and that'll never end,
you know, Ah, there's always something you know. So that
that's what rang to me yesterday in my in my
heart as far as.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Like almost brought me to tears, like what is this
really real? Am I am?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I dreaming like like right now, like pinch me, you know,
because I'm a you know, jen exer, and so all
of my life it's been fighting in the Middle East,
you know. So that's I mean, it's almost like an
entire paradigm shift. Even though I'm not on the world stage,
(03:58):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
A global you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Whatever, it doesn't affect you so much, but it just
becomes part of your normal, like part of this is
the way the world is. And so that underlying foundational
piece of this is the way the world is just
totally got wow changed taken away. You know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yes, you have to make quite an adjustment in your
thinking about what has happened, because it's that much a
change and that it even happened to me, I was
telling brilliant. I was like, just in, I've been in
awe of God all yesterday, watching the videos of the
(04:46):
hostages excuse me come back to their loved ones, watching
the buses take the Palestinian prisoners back into their area,
hearing the President Trump speak to the knesse at watching
then he goes on to Egypt and thirty nine countries
(05:08):
gather to sign this piece accord. The amount of impossibility
for this to have happened in my lifetime is outrageous,
and so that it has happened proves to me that
God nothing is impossible with God. Yeah. Just the other
(05:32):
thing I see, and this is because I'm a Christian,
so and having locked a journey with the Lord, I
can see and being taught of the Lord and those
in the body about the Jewishness of my Savior is
the overlay of scripture, the overlay of the timing for
(05:56):
this historic event. And I think this is what you
can miss if you're a gentile and you don't know
these things. And so I just want to mention a
few of them. So the prisoners. Twenty prisoners were released
from the excuse me. The hostages were released twenty and
(06:18):
every single planned and purposed moment of that exchange went
off without a hitch. And that's another impossibility. Nobody pulled
out a gun. Nobody, I mean it went off without
a hitch. That is the grace of God. I have
(06:41):
also heard people that are in Israel that have Messianic
ministries in Israel, and there's a few I could talk
about that if you're interested in hearing their take on this,
I know I was. I was very gratified to hear them.
You can check out Kurt Landry c u RT Kurt
(07:03):
Landry Ministries at House of David. You can check out
Amanda Grace at Arc of Grace Ministries. And to Kun
Global is a is a Messianic ministry to Israel and
it's t I k k U N Global to Kun
(07:26):
and which means restoration. To Kun means restoration. But anyway
to get their take on some of this, it was
it was fascinating to me and help me to understand.
The timing was just outrageously amazing because they were released
on the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which
(07:47):
is the fall feast that begins with Russiashana and ends
with the with Simcotra, which is today. And so the
eighth day of the feast was when they were released.
And I mean, you could not have tried to make
that happen. That's a God thing in my opinion. Did
(08:09):
you know all that brilin.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I did not. No, that is so amazing and so
God right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So God yes. And here's another thing, And this one
blew me away because I personally stumbled into this. So
there are portions of the Torah and the Old Testament
that the Jewish people read worldwide in every synagogue, and
there's they have like chapters that you read, and then
(08:39):
at the festivals they have added portions of the Old
Testament that you read. And so Messianic Jewish people have
added in the New Testament in like manner. And so
there's you know, different passages that you read every single day.
You can find this online, you can find this in
a lot of places. But I was looking at what
(09:00):
do the Jewish people read in the synagogue on the
last day, the eighth day of these tabernacles, which is
to coat, and so I thought, I'm gonna go read it. Well,
there was three different ones and I went to the
first one, which is First Kings, and it's where Solomon
is dedicating the temple to God in Jerusalem and what
(09:27):
he does, the measures that he takes to dedicate and
offer the best of what they have. In First Kings,
it says that Solomon offered and I'm going to have
the numbers wrong, but it's like one hundred and twenty
two thousand oxen and one hundred and forty two thousand sheep,
(09:48):
you know, it's like in the thousands, okay. And he
calls it a peace offering. Solomon, he was the king
of Isray. He called it this peace offering and the
dedication of the temple, which was the place of worship
to Almighty God. Yeah wah, and so much so that
the normal offerings for that day had to be moved
(10:12):
out to the courtyard, which was very unusual, and they
had to be moved out to the more public area
instead of being done in the in the temple, in
Solomon's temple. And the reason was because there was so
much peace offerings being offered. Now, you can't make that up.
(10:34):
Solomon's peace offering and the peace accords that were signed
by thirty nine countries and President Trump was and Marc
Rubio were central in that and that reading of scripture.
If that doesn't make you drop your jaw and just
be in awe of God, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well wow, wow, wow, all love it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And another thing, Amanda Grace was saying about twenty prisoners
and she alludes that to Exodus twenty. Well, if you
go read Exodus twenty, it is about the children of
Israel coming out of Egypt and that was their moment
of freedom from captivity. Wow. Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They're so good. And I recently saw something about you know,
one of the prophecies is that they're going to rebuild
the Temple, and I recently saw something about that. People
have been thinking they're talking about on the Temple, not
which is currently controlled by Muslims, but really the temple
(11:45):
was in the city of David, which is a different
part of Jerusalem. And I was just wondering if any
of that plays in you know, like I said, I
didn't do any research, and I'm certainly not a scholar
on Israel, pretty far from it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But you know, when when.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Something comes to my attention on social media, that's a
big deal. Because I'm not a social media person, and
so I said, Okay, Lord, what do you need me?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
What do I need to know? How do you want
me to pray? You know, how do I want?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I think that one of the things that the
Lord was saying is just I'm potentially you know, who
knows what the longer view is. But for today, for today,
I feel like I'm praying for that the peace will
just last, that everything will settle down, and that it
will be a lasting piece, you know, it will be
(12:43):
able to be sustained, sustainable, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
And you know, with that Brilin, I think you have
to be a savvy modern Christian and you have to
realize that just like in the United States government, there
are factions at war in our government, there are factions
at war in the Israeli government. In the modern government,
(13:09):
you're going to have hawks and doves, just like you
have them in ours. And so, you know, someone was
pointing out that, you know, beating at Yahoo, he is
both liked and not liked in that nation, same with
our president, and most people like him, but there's a
(13:32):
few that don't. And so you have to realize that
each of those factions this makes it even more explosive
of a miracle in my opinion that those factions are
at work, but God, but God did it. And as
far as the peace and will it last, I really
(13:57):
think it's going to last. Are we going to have
some bumps on the piece read? We might? Right? But
overall and I and God has taught me to look
at the larger picture in order to gain peace for
my soul is to look at a larger picture. I
believe where if we've entered an era of peace, I
(14:17):
believe President Trump was the only president that could have
done that, the only world leader who could have done that.
It's very significant who was and was not in the
thirty nine countries that signed the peace accord. Putin was
not invited to the party. That can be an issue,
of course, China wasn't there. But the people that were
(14:42):
there very significant. Turkey was there, very significant. Egypt was there.
That's very significant that they would even show up, much
less sign their country's name on the accord. Very very
It's indicative, I guess I want to say this, it's
(15:02):
indicative of a wind of change, of a weather of
change here. And so let you if you're a Christian
and you're listening to this let your spirit man rise
up in faith, call what is not as if is
this peace accord will last, this piece of chord will last,
(15:24):
and we declare it in Jesus' name. What it turns
out to be, I believe will be an increase in peace,
like like like a crescendo in peace for an era.
What do you think about this? Those thoughts?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I do? I mean, I really do feel like the
good side of the quote golden Age is arriving. It's
on the way, and it's there's a lot of fighting
against it and all of that stuff. We want to
pull down the structures of it. But I do I
(16:00):
feel like there's a breath of release, a weight being
lifted off, fresh wind in the sales. I mean, you
look at the economy, you look at all of the
amazing shifts and changes that have already happened. And yes,
as you know, the the light is more powerful, the
(16:24):
darkness gets more powerful too. But but we get to win,
and we have to maintain that belief of it's going
to it's going to work out and it's going to
do that. So but one other thing that you know,
for me begs the question, because it's just been on
(16:47):
my heart for several years now, and I've this one
I have studied about and I have looked into it.
Doctor Laura Sanger talks about it is that Israel is
different than the Israil of the Bible because of the
Zionist movement. So the caveat I always want to say,
(17:12):
is Lord, let your will be done, because we don't
know who is who. It's so tangled up right now.
We don't know if you know, the people who call
themselves Israeli are Jewish or not. And it doesn't really
matter because we we just have to pray that His
(17:33):
will would be done. And for right now, like you said,
I think his will is for there to be a
piece for this season, for this this era of time.
Who knows how long that will last, but for now,
there's a there's this piece I think that's coming, and
there's this release of us being able to really step
(17:55):
into our authority, step into our destiny, really move forward
at an accelerated pace and bring His will into the earth.
It's almost like, you know, the floodgates have been opened,
and it's not a time to sit back on our
heels or rest on our loyals or take it easy.
(18:16):
It's a time to charge forward. And I know that
we've talked about this in the past. Is you know,
the verse in Zacharaia says, pray for rain in the
days of rain like right, we've got to move forward
during this time of the fresh wind. Get your sail up.
Don't sit there, you know, just floating on the top
of the water. There's a wind to blow you in
(18:37):
the right direction of your destiny. In the deeper intimacy
with the Lord, a deeper understanding of how everything the
spirit realm works and who you are all of it,
all of it, and deeper understanding of what your piece
of the puzzle looks like, because probably the people who
(18:57):
are hearing our voice don't have a piece of the
puzzle necessarily in Israel. But it's an indicator, it's a marker.
It's a very historical, big marker in the spirit realm
and in the natural that we can use to charge forward.
You know, the Bible says that the gates of Hell
(19:19):
will not stand against the Church, against not just Church Ecclasia,
the governing body, those who are understanding their authority and
going for authority. And I think this is the moment
when the gates of hell won't stand. It's just it's
it's not going to withstand if we press forward and
(19:42):
we move forward, we believe for peace, and we say yes,
we take this sign as a sign of your will
being done in the earth. Yes, we say yes and
amen to your purposes. And we say yes and amen
to whatever our piece of the puzzle is.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I agree with that. So the eclesia, the called out ones,
we have to keep praying, we have to keep declaring,
we have to keep exalting our king and watch him.
I have a friend that says, God often says to her,
meet me where I'm already working. And I'm like, that's
(20:20):
so good, because in this God is doing a thing.
He's working, he's working out something. So we the Eqlesea,
have to be agreeing from the earth realm to vob
or to pull down, connecting the will of God in
heaven to the earth realm. That's the role of the believer.
That's the role of an eclesa, which is a gathered
(20:42):
group administrating the King's will in the earth realm. There's
so many different ways you can talk about these historic events,
but I will mention this that yesterday, last night, I
was doing something random and the Holy Spirit spoke to
me and he said, you need to put today's activities
(21:03):
in your journal.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I was like, when I just heard you say that, like,
go back and mark this day. And it gave me
such hope. It's the hope of our calling right that
we see the goodness of God in the land of
the living. And it's also the hope of a faithful God. So,
(21:28):
no matter what you think of Israel and modern day politics,
Israel's been there and Jerusalem is a cup of trembling
to the nations. So what happens in Jerusalem is going
to affect the entire planet politically, geopolitically, all that. And
so it almost is like to me, it calls me
(21:50):
up and makes me go, oh yeah, I need to
pay attention to this. This is not just kind of important.
This is very important to the God of my Savior,
Jesus Christ, my father in heaven. It's it's important because
He's going to use Jerusalem and the events in and
around Israel too as a sign to show you the
(22:13):
times and the seasons that we're living in and just
to think like God thinks. And it's so different from
how many of us were you know, have come into
Jesus and are saved. But it's just a different mentality.
It's getting to know God by watching what he says.
(22:34):
And that's why the word of God is so important,
the logos, printed word, the scriptures that we have because
they're living and that yes they were written historically, but
they still speak. They're very much a vibrant and speaking today.
And I'm just awed by that very often.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, another hope verse that came to mind when you
were saying that is Christ in you the hope of glory. Right,
So Christ is in us, so we can hope for
his glory. You know, we can't we can bring his
glory because we are the hope. We are the hope dealers,
but we are the hope. When we step into a room,
(23:16):
there should the hope should increase, you know, his work
should increase.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Because I love the way you say that. Yeah, when
we step in the room, the hope should increase. It's
kind of convicting, right, And you know, blessed are the peacemakers.
The scripture that is a living word. Blessed are the peacemakers. Well,
if the highest office of our nation just blessed Israel
(23:42):
with helping them by being a peacemaker. Yahweh is faithful
to his word. He's going to bless that nation that's us.
And so what does blessing look like. Well, it can
look like prosperity. It can look like harvest, meaning the
souls of men and women turning back to God, getting healed,
(24:06):
getting blessed, getting mentally healed, emotionally healed, physically healed. I
believe all of these things are going to increase in
an era of peace, because I believe it's harvest time.
And that's a word I believe, just because I'm my
ear is to the prophets, the modern prophets, My ear
(24:28):
is to watching as a watchman on the wall. What
are these events significant of God? What you're definitely doing something?
Help me be alert and awake to that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. And you know, I don't
mean to be self promoting, but I do. I mean,
this is I am walking with God. I am walking
in his timing and the timing of this and the
timing of Him doing a new thing in my Kings
(25:03):
on Fire program. My goodness, we're we're He's showing me
some some things that we're going to be doing that.
I don't even know yet, Like, oh Lord, you're going
to have to teach me, because he's doing a new
thing in the earth, just up leveling understanding who we are,
up leveling under our understanding of who he is. You know.
(25:29):
Maybe even we're going to be doing the names of
God and how we express names of God. I don't know,
but it's it's it's going to be I don't know.
I'm like, it's going to be epic, and I'm like,
oh Lord, I don't even know if I'm up to
the task of doing this, you know, but he it's
his hand is on it, his will is on it,
(25:51):
and it's for such a time as this and everything
that you just said, and even us being the hope
for the world and being blessed and praying for the
blessing and moving where he's already working, stepping into the
stream that he's already got flowing. It's all part of it.
(26:14):
And I'm just I'm so honored and humbled and blessed
to be used, you know, by the Lord. That's just
Oh my goodness, Donna.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yes, I'm just humbled to be here living this out
and you know, like I wasn't living in nineteen forty
eight when Israel became a nation in a day. You
know that that was a very significant pointer in time.
You guys don't know that you can go back and
look at that historically. Yeah, I think the reason Holy
(26:45):
Spirit said for me to mark this in my journals.
He wanted me to mark my personal take on this,
my how did this affect my walk with a god
who was so faithful to his covenant that in twenty
twenty five, after two years of some pretty severe heartache,
he is faithful to his nation. And no matter what
(27:08):
you think about modern Israel, the God of Covenant was
showed up on Monday, the thirteenth of October, the God
of Covenant and the angel armies of his covenantness toward
his people, whom he said, these are my people. That
was on display. And if it was on display to people,
(27:32):
it was also on display to powers and principalities of darkness.
And that just makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And I was just wondering, like, oh my gosh, what
did that look like in the spirit realm, in the
in the days leading up to it, or however long
you know of these mighty warrior angels, keeping the peace making,
letting the hostages all be you know, transferred to where
(28:02):
they need to go, brought home, brought brought restoration, all
of that stuff that I just would love to be
able to have seen all of that, what's going on
in the heavenly realms. And you know, the gnashing of
teeth that the enemy had over it, the defeated loser,
the defeated loser exactly, that's to kick him in the
(28:24):
teeth down.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah. So moving then to just looking at how people
are going to look at this, because the media is
always putting it in front of your face. You know,
what's now going to happen to Gaza and all this stuff.
And I heard someone that would know say this that
(28:47):
the tunnel system that's under Gaza has to be taken out.
And the tunnel system you and I might think of,
oh a little tunnel that was dug by a little
hand shovel. These tunnels, ladies and gentlemen, are big enough
for a tractor trailer truck to drive through with ease.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Even passing each other.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, under that, under that area, so miles little shocking
and eye opening for me, you know. And so I'm
like Okay, Lord, I guess that is going to have
to be taken care of. Well, we're going to see
the idea, take the take take care of that situation.
They have to do that in order to preserve the
(29:30):
peace for the pieces you continue, that has to be done.
So that's why I say we're this isn't all over.
And I'm not Pollyanna about this, but I am owed
at my God, and I will be the first to
say that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah. And those tunnels extend under Israel as well. I
mean Israel's what only seven or nine miles wide, it's
crazy tiny rh So those those tunnels are you know,
a lot. I don't want to say hundreds of miles,
but it probably is not too much of an exaggeration.
(30:10):
So it's all over the area that so who knows
what's going to happen to all of that and how
that is going to be removed. And it might look
it might look scary, and it might you know, cause
problems again, but my goodness, the butt God, but God, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So I just want to I don't think we need
to belabor all this. I just wanted to knock it
around in front of people, you know, because I think
what my hope for this episode is that you get
keyed into God time, God's times and what's happening in
the modern world, and then you just let it affect you,
let it settle in your your thought pattern because the
(30:57):
thought patterns of the world are changing because something is
historic as this has happened, and yeah, to let it
be part of you too. So you're not one hundred
percent ignorant as a gentile, which most of us kind
of feel that way sometimes, but but you're you're a
little bit aware and you have some talking points.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's good, and don't believe everything you hear.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yes, and everything on the internet is not the truth exactly,
be discerning, keep the faith.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
And speaking of that if there if you ever see
a video of a person either just like saying words
and they're not saying what they you think that they
would say, just go look in the description. Right now
as of right now they're the AI produced videos. They
(31:51):
have to have a disclaimer how this content was created.
So just look in the description because it will tell
you this is it's a synthetic. It's been altered as
there's words that they have to use. And I hope
that that continues that they continue to have to say that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I do. I do hope that as well. That's another
reason when there's historic events going on, go find a
live feed recording and look for that disclaimer because they'll
put words in ai is and computer graphics are very
you know, intelligent to do these things. So that's the
(32:31):
reason I like to get on a live feed. I
want to hear it from the horse's mouth, you know,
I want to hear the whole thing, and not not
necessarily maybe secondarily, but not firsthand. Do I want to
hear somebody's thought on it. I want to hear the event.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yep, I would totally agree. Yeah, and you know it's
a it's an era of deep fakes, and so just
you know, be aware. I like people that I know
know better will send me stuff. I'm like, this guy
didn't really say that. Yeah, I mean it's anyway, I
(33:06):
don't want to get on that different different episode, isn't it,
Donna just pray for pray for Israel. Uh, you know,
God's Israel or you know, why would we not pray
for anybody anyway?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, you know what I mean, even Israel is lost.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The exactly, it's a secularation, So you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Be praying for the unity of the fay right in Israel.
And there are messianitgies. They're a small portion of the population,
but they're there.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, they are all right. Thank you, Thank you
Donna for tossing this back and forth and informing me
on some things that I didn't know. I appreciate that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (34:15):
It to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good Bye,
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