Episode 319 - Signs of Abilities - Audience Gallery Readings - The Odyssey Files Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By what.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good inning paranormal community, and thank you for joining us
here on the Honesty Pals.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I am your host. Michael O'Neill not with me tonight
because he's got company in town. Is my normal co host,
mister David Orion, but special treat for everybody, the great
Psychomedium Seed the Dykesman joining us us once again as
a special guest co host. And uh before before we begin,

(01:48):
I want to apologize because the the the entrance video
was not the correct one.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I saw that. I'm like, I think we're doing it demon,
Oh we're not.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
That was that was last week and I thought that
i'd switched them out. I could have sworn that I
had done so yesterday and apparently I had not. So
my apologies to you seen up for that and for
everybody who watches the live version of this show or

(02:23):
just watches the video. In general, our topic tonight, which
matches Sina's abilities is signs that you have abilities, whether
in yourself, whether in a friend, whether in a child,

(02:43):
Suggestions on how to do this type of stuff, should
you want to pursue it or even not pursue it,
and then which is only going to affect the live
people because we're not doing it after the fact. If
anybody has a question, Sina is willing to do a

(03:08):
one question gallery reading for all of our live audience members.
So we'll see if that entails anything. But but we
do have ah, we do have a great topic because
I think that it's something that Dave and I really

(03:29):
can't discuss all that all that well, you know, just
him and me. We need somebody who not only has
been in that position, but also mentors people who are
in that position.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Including that including yourself.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Mentor yes, uh sure, well you know, you know. It's
it's it's interesting because this came up just just before
we came, before you you joined me here. Uh So

(04:12):
I was reading I was reading the the CDL stuff
that you know, work stuff and on to board people
with it. But I was reading all the manuals and
stuff like that, and like always, it's boring as shit,
and so the mind wanders, you know, and I'm tired.

(04:34):
I didn't sleep well last night, and so I'm kind
of like drifting. And it was interesting because like I
just got this feeling of like I was hearing voices
and you know, not quite asleep, because it's not like
I fell asleep reading this stuff. I was still reading it,

(04:55):
but like, you know, were you just where you stopped
really paying attention? Twelve years old? And like it seriously
felt like I was hearing briefly, you know, very briefly
and faintly, like conversations in words, and somebody was saying
something and I was like, is that what it is?

(05:20):
I'm like, it's am I hearings hearing the angel radio
like you know, so to speak, and it's is that
what I have to do? Just like half fall asleep?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, pretty much, because you're shit, you're not thinking. Then
you know, your your mind gets in the way and
that's what clogs it. And so when you're half in half, oh,
you're just I mean in slightly, you know, one path
not past going to sleep, so your your your mind
is pretty much not going all over the place, and
so that's when things can come in because yeah, you're

(05:54):
love to pick up on more that way because your
mind's not in the way.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
H m hm.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Fine. Well I don't reach that state often because and
I have to get up really early otherwise it would
have taken a nap. Typically when I do that, I
can't get sleep at night. So I'm just gonna have
to remain brain during for the duration of this show. Fine,

(06:26):
because this show is all about what you know, so
you're gonna I'm just facilitating here. Oh okay, anytime you
come on as pretty much me interviewing you about something
pretty much or or we're destroying you know, something of
value to people. So I hope we won't be doing that.

(06:51):
We shouldn't been on the subject to come up. Very
very true, very true. The first first story that we
have I picked specifically because not because I have anything
to really say about it, but I think it's a
good discussion. And so with that said, uh, and I

(07:13):
know this is correct. Yeah, Files, it's proud to present
the mail bag. It's been like three weeks since we
have done the mail bag, so I know. So again,

(07:33):
for anybody who would like to send us a paranormal
question or story, you can go to Odyssey Files Radio
at gmail dot You can go to Otis Files radio
dot com. There we go, and then our email is
obviously Otis Files Radio gmail dot com. But I want

(07:56):
to see a email from the website. Want to see that,
So you can go to aussiefowlesradio dot com and of course,
if you want to get this show or any of
our shows, that is also the place to do it
as well. So with that said, I will get to

(08:21):
story number one, an angel or something else. I hear
so many fascinating creepy stories, but yesterday I heard a
very different kind from a friend who was not into
the paranormal, never even thinks about it, and she's someone
I trust one hundred percent. She just bought a pastry

(08:42):
from a bakery and had it wrapped up in her
purse for later. She was walking down a sidewalk and
noticed a very skinny, dirty man with long stringy hair
rum machine threw a dumpster in and out. She was
anxious because she thought he might be dangerous if he
was or if he was going to scoot, or if

(09:03):
he was high and was going to scoot by the
alley very quickly. But she felt compelled, absolutely compelled, to
give the pastry to him. She doesn't know why. She
felt a little crazy because it seemed potentially dangerous or foolish,
but she did. When he took it, she saw him
change for a moment, hair thick and clean, face no

(09:27):
longer haggard, haggard and drawn, but healthy and full, and
his eyes were kind and was smiling. He simply said
thank you. She was kind of freaked out so she
didn't stick around, but what a cool experience though. So again,
like there's no there's no real question here, but I
think it's it's a topic that Dave and I have

(09:52):
never covered, and I know you and I have never discussed,
but it's around all the time. You know, the whole
what if Jesus came back like that? You know, you
know the whole angels walking among us? You know that
that sort of thing. I mean, we always talk about
the devil walking among us, but never you never like it,

(10:14):
say what I said, You don't, but I do, right, Yeah,
I'm all right with that way to take one for
the team.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
So you know, okay, But.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Uh, I guess my question to you, since you are
much more in that state, like that area of the
veil that I am, is that something that happens often?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yes, people don't talk about it because they're not they're
not sure if they're just seeing something, they talk themselves
out of it, and or they just won't say anything
to anybody about it. But yeah, those are angels. Those
are angels that are that walk among us. It's to
show that there's that they're out there, and the kindness
will show who they really are, you know, someone's kind

(11:02):
to them. Otherwise they just walk around being bums or
scavengers and just to more or less fit in, you know, people,
people leave them alone. So now they can they can
actually observe and people won't say anything to them normally.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
So that's their whole purpose of being like dirty bums
and stuff like that is just to just to.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Observe, so they can observe. Because I mean, like she said,
you know, normally people wouldn't approach her. She wouldn't approach her,
but she felt compelled. Because she felt compelled is because
she's very, she's loving, She's full of love, love and light,
and that's why you attract what you are. And because
she is of love and light and she is of
an angel essence, she was attracted to another angel knowing
to give that to him.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
M hm, I understand. So I guess my question with
that then is observe what like what what's the purpose
of their observation and why did what and why did
they have to do it? Like it?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Just to see what are the humans have come. You know,
they want to see if kindness is still there, if
they if they have gone, you know, they they're just
beyond help. And so they will come in and mingle
and to see and interact, to see where are they at.
You know, we're a science project, you know, the Earth
is a science project. And so they're gonna come in

(12:33):
and still be an angel, but they're gonna come in
as a human, you know, and it's it's more of
a you know, just a masking because and then if
somebody shows them kindness, then they show their true cells
you know, I mean not true true selves, but you know,
more of a presentable human appree it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
And they don't think that that's I I guess.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Weird, no, because they're showing that they're showing that the
kindness that that person gives will bring light to somebody.
And so it's more or less to you know, like
things for doing that.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
So it's one of those, uh, the the interior versus
the exterior. And when you show an act of kindness
such like that, you get to see what what that
sort of gesture does for their soul as opposed to

(13:35):
their physical body.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's just an active kind it's all everything's energy, energy, frequency, vibration.
So it's just you know, it's just changing, you know
that that love changing into you know, low and light,
showing that on another individual angel, you know, being which
is showing that that energy can change somebody else, just

(13:58):
being that loving.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
See how often like how many are here?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh several. They just can't stay here all the time.
It's such it's heavy. You know, they don't like to
They don't they they have to be careful. They don't
become human, you know, some of them. They stay here
too long and they could beat what they call fallen angels,
and they don't want to become a fallen angel. So
they'll come in and just see how we're doing. But they,
I mean, there's also they're around us all the time.
They protect people, they protect you. You know, they're gonna

(14:29):
I actually just had a story today about one of
my clients and she had been in an accident. She
had asked me, she goes, I was in this accident
and I wanted to ask you about it, and it
was a long long time ago, but she's, you know,
like finally somebody to talk to about it. And she's like,
what held me to where I didn't get killed. And

(14:49):
I said, well, you saw bright light and she goes, yeah,
to go, that was your guardian angel. Angels are there
all the time to help us. So I mean, I'm
not trying to counterdict myself, but it's some of them
will stay around to help, you know, to help individuals,
to help people. They've they've showed videotapes of people all

(15:11):
of a sudden, you know, someone's crossing the street and
they're gonna get hit by a car, and all of a sudden,
this person actually is an angel gets him out of
the way. You know. It's yeah, they're there, supposedly.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I learned last week was last week, no, two weeks ago,
that I have like Gabriel with me. M what do
you mean, uh huh, that's it just the hit.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And well, people keep thinking that how can I have
a guardian angel around or you know, our angel around me.
They they can be with several people, it's not just
one person, and they're they're messengers, continuous messengers. And so
our angel Michael is a protector. Yeah, he's there no

(15:58):
whole time. You ask him to come, and he going
to be there asking you, ask continuous questions and he's
so he's your messenger, so it's can be continuous. Is
sitting there giving you messages. That's what they do, you
know Raphael, you know, he's you know, the healer. So
people need healing and they ask for the healing, He's
going to be there to heal them. So it's if

(16:19):
they are there for to serve, and people thinking, because
there are angels, it's like, oh, how can I you know,
be in the presence of an our angel. It's just
asking for their help when they're there.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I don't know. I think it's so much what makes
me important enough to get the attention of an archangel?
Like I think that. I think that's a question that
is more on people's mind than you know, why would
they be doing that.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
We're all important, We're all important. It doesn't it doesn't
matter who you are. We are all important. It's just
if you choose to ask for help or ask for
a message and ask for protection, they're going to be there.
I see, well, research research their name and it actually says,

(17:12):
you know, like you know, their name means something and
it's to God and to God, to us as our creator,
and so they're to serve.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well, technically you know are aren't we like a kid
with a chemistry set?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Now we're the experiment.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
That's what I'm saying. Okay, well I misspoke. Isn't he?
Isn't God a kid with a chemistry set. God's not
a he, it's a I'm just using it because I'm
a he. If you were to use it, you would
say she. It didn't feel right to say it.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, I just referred to our creator or universe.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Well I didn't want to, so.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Anyways, being that's your question.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Oh, I don't know. I just I just asked stuff.
So you can, you know, share your knowledge with people?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, around all the time. No, if they are there
all the time, they can be in several different places
at one time. It's not just one, and so they
can help several people and be around you all the time,
be around somebody else all the time.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I guess I just because Gabriel is I mean, I
know you said that all of them are are there
to give you messages and stuff like that, but Gabriel
is the messenger.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well he's a duel, so something Gabriel is a male,
something is a female because he's also to do with
the reproductive or female. The nurturer.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well that and that also throw me for a loop
because I always called him Gabrielle, but it could also
be Gabrielle and uh so, but still I'm just saying,
if there's the archangel, gabriel, Gabrielle, whatever he wants to
call him, whatever he or she wants to call himself,

(19:14):
is the messenger. I don't seem to be getting any messages.
Why is he around me?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
If he has no messages, you're uting messages all the time.
As if you choose to be open to him.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I'm always open to that.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
We've talked about this time.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I may not like what he has to say, but I'm.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
You're just not allowing yourself to hear it.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
But yeah, so I just thought that that story, I
mean that story was was not only really cool and
in a positive one, but uh it would be a
good discussion. Do you have anything that you want to
add due to this story?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Just don't. I mean, seeing's believing, so like said it,
we just saw for a moment, Yeah, just for a moment,
They're going to show you that your kindness does make
a difference. You know, that small gesture made a huge difference,
And it doesn't matter if it was to an angel
or to an action or to the human species, it
does make a difference, and he was just showing that

(20:17):
a small gesture can make that much of a difference
to somebody, can just brighten somebody's day.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Fair enough, all right, Europe Messina.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Alrighty shadow people. Okay, So I live alone. I've been
in my apartment for the last year. Ever since i've
been here, I have had so many things happen. I've
had things move and I'm in a spot they were.
Excuse me, I've had things moved and not in the
spot they were before bed. My TV will be on.

(20:50):
I hear things from my front door constantly, but nobody's there.
Even my dog hears it and sees things, because she'll
start growling or looking around like she's watching something. Just now.
What I was made What made me want to send
this to you guys, is I just saw a shadow
figure pass by my front window and my dog just

(21:11):
went with that. Ape shit you ape shit crazy. I
don't ever feel scared or uneasy while I'm here, but
I'm curious to know what went on in this apartment
before I moved here. My mom just passed away. It
hasn't been hasn't even been a year in December, and

(21:32):
her and I always would talk about trying to communicate
with each other the best best we can, sorry we could.
So I'm starting to wonder if maybe my mom is
trying to communicate with me, and if so, I would
love to try to communicate with her. But if it's
not my mom, I wouldn't want to open up that door.
Lots of laughs always, I hope everyone's having a great day.

(21:55):
I just wanted to share my experience, being that they
didn't point it out right away that the mom passed away.
Of course you're going to have, you know, especially before
she passed, it was an agreement that they stillways stay
in communication. And we already talk about this later in
the show. Is about abilities. You need to be open

(22:15):
to it, she could think, you know, even though they
said things have been happening in that apartment, you need
to be open. You know, just because you open your
abilities doesn't get you open to negativity and seeing that
it's just you'll be all around seeing everything, you know,
feeling a lot of people are clear sentience, they feel,
feel energy, read people, and that's what they're probably they're
probably feeling it. What's going on in that not always

(22:37):
seeing it. But yes, the TV's on things being moved,
but that's just energy moving one place to another. And
but the dog barking and seeing, Yeah, definitely things are
going on. The shadow figure, this is one that can
come in and it's the pecking or we've talked about
this before in a couple of shows. Is the pecking

(22:59):
or the the devil's pecking order. He's like the one
one down. You know, God has his pecking order of
the angels. Devil has his pecking order of his what
we call minions, and he's one of the minions, and
he'll come in. We always have to be careful of
the shadow person because he's he can be powerful and

(23:22):
very manipulating, so he can get into your dreams. So
we have to be careful with that one. We don't
want that to cause problems in our everyday life. So
you need to protect yourself when you ever see that.
Learn to protect yourself and your place where you live,
and tell me that they're not allowed there because may

(23:44):
not give you harm. Right now, may try to act
like it's really you know, friendly, they're just trying to
get get in to you, or you start trusting them,
that's when you're gonna have problems because when you start
trusting them, then that's when he'll turn on you. And
that's because you're vulnerable then, So you need to start
as soon as you see something like a shadow person,

(24:05):
you need to start protecting yourself because it's that's not
a good thing. They haven't in your apartment, your house, anything.
You start putting up protection, learn to protect yourselfself, Learn
to protect your home, sage, learn all your protections. Everything
to get it out at home is not allowed there.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
So I'm going to probably disagree with you on this one.
Go for it because one of the things that I've
always had to I always felt the need to do
is in people who've listened to Show for a long
time know that I've done it probably on a dozen occasions.
Let's talk about the difference between a shadow person and

(24:46):
shadow figures. Okay, and obviously shadow people are bad dues,
you know, like you're just talking about the hat man,
I'm assuming obviously member of the shadow people, and nothing
that you know you can do is really going to
get rid of them, at least not in the way

(25:08):
we want. In fact, right now, The only thing that
seems to really get rid of the hat man is
saying Jesus Christ's name out loud. He seems to piss
him off, and then he disappears. But I don't get
those vibes at all because he doesn't do any of
this turn the TV on, he doesn't do this little
hocus pocus stuff. He just shows up and then he leaves.

(25:34):
So I'm I'm thinking that whenever she saw in or
from Wind, it was a shadow figure as opposed to
a shadow person. Unfortunately, I don't think it's it's I
don't think it's her mom. I think we're both in
agreement at that. It just doesn't. The only way that
I would ever think that it was her mother is if,

(25:55):
like when the TV was on, it was too like
her mother's favorite show, you one of those type of things,
the radio kicked on, it was her mother's favorite song,
you know, one of those things that really shows we'll
get that reference to the mother from the daughter. But
because she waited all the way until the end, I'm

(26:16):
assuming none of those things she associated with her mom.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right, she probably kind of put it in the mix,
but doesn't believe that it was right.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I think that's more of a hope thing, where you know,
where somebody will will will come to her and be like, yeah,
I totally think it's your mom, because that would be
uplifting and very you know, that would that would be
very a positive thing. Unfortunately, this isn't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
She's also asking about what happened before, which is a
good thing that she's asking before, like something might have
happened there, and that might be the shadow, might be
somebody who has lived there before, something happened to somebody
that lived there before.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, no, exactly. And and I love the fact that
she's not going straight through this is my mom. I
want to talk to her. It's what's going on in
this apartment? If it isn't. And I think that that's
an amazing question to ask. I don't think a lot
of people who experienced paranormal activity ask that question. So

(27:22):
I would highly recommend you either do the research. I'll
look into the history of that building or even the
land and see if anything happened, or if maybe you're
too busy or you don't know how to go about it,
contact contact a paranormal team, somebody who not ghost hunters,

(27:45):
a paranormal investigation team who will do the research for
you and help you out in that manner and maybe
even come in if you want them to, and do
an investigation to find out if maybe whoever is there
it does have a message for you or it does
have something they would like to say, whether it's to
you or not. But uh, yeah, yeah, no, I was

(28:13):
just gonna say, but that's my take on.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
It, right.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I was just when they say shadow people, because it's
just walked, you know, by the windows, Like okay, what Also,
looking back on this, it's like, Okay, she didn't he
or she didn't specify if they're first level, second level
in this apartment and saying that it went by the window.
That's why I was like, Okay, I don't know what
level you're on either.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
So yeah, and I almost thought that since everything was
happening inside, that maybe somebody walked in front of the
interior front window like they were in the room with them,
but walked in front of the window. I just I
think the wording was a little off on that, but

(28:56):
not many people are writers. Yeah, do you have anything
to add to this one?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Agree? But yeah, just go into the library. You can
always get any kind of history of anything that happened,
newspaper articles, or anything that happened in that building or
apartment what it was before. A lot of things are
built over things as well, you know, maybe got burned
down and then that was built over it, and that's
probably probably could be one of it. Or even that

(29:23):
apartment itself was an apartment building and then rebuilt. That's
a lot of that happens.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, yes, it does, all right. Story Nump three. Something
messing with my mum and I, So I'm hoping for
some advice or maybe some fresh eyes on a situation
we've been dealing with for a while now. For context,
my mom and I live in a small town in Australia,
International Baby that's notorious for being haunted with the locals.

(29:54):
I don't think there's a single person here that doesn't
have a story about the white lady on the main street.
The house we live in is old, but not as
old as some of the places here, and for the
last seven years, the only strange occurrences that have happened
in my house is a ghost cat that hangs around
the kitchen in sometimes my bed. Since about July, though,

(30:18):
things have really ramped up and feel somewhat targeted. The
first time was when I was up late and cleaning
the kitchen for an inspection. I've got a long kitchen
that's connected to the lounge room. I had music playing
on the TV and was sitting on the far that
was sitting in the far end of the kitchen cleaning
the oven. I heard my mom in the lounge room

(30:41):
singing to the song that was playing. It's one of
her favorite songs, so it wouldn't be that weird for
her to come out and listen to it. I heard
her say my name from the door, but I had
my head in the oven, so I didn't see her,
and I just called back, asking what she wanted. She
didn't answer, so I sat back and looked at the
door and called out again. I got no answer, so

(31:03):
I got to search for her. My mom is mentally ill,
and I'm her caregivers, so her calling me and wondering
and wandering off isn't exactly unusual. I found my mom
sleeping soundly in her bed. The next day. She said
she had slept through the night and had woken up
at all. Since then, our milk keeps leaking and we

(31:24):
can't find holes or splits in the carton. Candles that
are lit sometimes burn way too quickly. Our pets have
been agitated that some song plays keep some song keeps
playing randomly even if something else is on, whether multiple
apps and multiple devices. And while I was away over

(31:45):
the weekend, my mom heard me come through the front
door and call her a full day before I was
even home. Any thoughts, feelings, and ideas are welcome. Okay,
there's a lot to un back here. Uh. First, obviously

(32:06):
it's something demonic since you have a cat. Ghost cats
are always to Satan's feces, especially especially gast ghost cats.
That's just that, that's just the spirit of the poop
that Satan throws around the world.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
So yeah, so right there, you have something bad going on.
I honestly don't even know why you would have a
ghost cat that long. Like I understand, like maybe if
you had lost the ghost a cat and he came back.
Because Davedle likes telling the story of Shadow Guy. He's
probably told it a dozen times over the years about
his cat coming back and he lasts for you know,
a week or two or whatever. Then he's gone. But

(32:50):
you know, it seems to have like this long lasting
seven year run of a ghost cat, And I don't
know if that's necessarily an actual spirit of a cat,
or if it's an entity in some fashion, whether human

(33:11):
or nonhuman, masquerading as a cat to you know, slip
through the defenses or whatever, because you guysn't love a
cat besides me and like ninety percent of the world.
But so right there is something now why it has
suddenly accelerated, I don't know. At first, I thought that

(33:39):
maybe your mom and you were experiencing like a time lapse,
you know, something that happened either in the past or
the future. You were experiencing right there, even though it
wasn't actually happy happening happens all the time Dave and
I talk about all the time of the show. At
least that's what I thought, until you start talking about

(34:00):
your milk leaking and candles burning, like that doesn't fit
with that. So I don't know if it's like how
old your mom is, or what if she's got something
terminal like Alzheimer's, you know, that kind of thing al
at you know, something that is rapidly deteriorating, and maybe

(34:25):
something in her health condition is creating poltergeist activity, or
is creating these type of experiences through her memories, you know,
psychically projecting and stuff like that. I don't know if
that's something that could be going on, and by you know,

(34:45):
I don't know. I can't use the word aport here
even though I want to. But obviously, if milk is
leaking from your thing, and there's no reason for it,
like it's no actual leak, it's got to be disappear
hearing from inside the jug peering outside. And it sounds
so dumb when I say it like that, but I

(35:06):
mean like it's just there's no other reason for it
except that, And I don't know why it's the milk,
and I don't know why, Like this song is plain
and obviously has no meaning to you too, but obviously
it's something meaningful to whatever entity you're dealing with. And

(35:32):
again you can probably you could bring in somebody like
Sena in this instance. I don't think history of the
place is really going to help you all that much
with this one, especially since you're gonna be looking for
a ghost cat, which probably you're not going to find anything.
So I would bring in, you know, a psychic medium

(35:53):
like sena to go through the house and maybe tell
you what is going on, or I would bring in
a paranormal again, uh, and just to see if they
can give you some answers as to what's going on
after an investigation here.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Okay, the cat thing, A lot of people like cats. No,
they're not bad. They are very psychic, very psychic. Animals
can tell you know. It says any anything that's in
you know, any ghost, any spirit, anything that's unusual.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
They concerns the cat is already dead.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, just hanging, not doing anything wrong, just hanging mm hmm.
I mean it's probably it probably passed away there and
just showing up every once in a while. It depends
on a lot of times. It depends on the time
of year. Things will come back around certain times of
the year. Halloween, You're gonna love this one.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Mercury retrograde. A lot of paranormal activity huge around that time. Huge,
But that is when you're going to see a lot
more paranormal activity is a lot during that time. And
that's you know, for four to five times a year.
So but I'm just seeing I mean, because they said

(37:16):
they seven years that they didn't see anything prior you know.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I mean, yeah, they said, I'm.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
More or less thinking they're not telling you the whole thing.
I'm alost thinking that they were like, well, how come
we're not getting any paranormal activity and it can literally
just happen that quickly where they can bring it on,
and they're just like, oh, you want to see us
over here, okay, or something might have happened, you know,
being that her the mom is ill. Yeah, that, but

(37:47):
I'm not saying that that's going to attract it that her,
depending on where she is at her illness. It's more
of where were they at and could have brought something in.
So I'm just thinking that they're not telling you the
whole story, being that the town itself is very active.
But I think something else happened, and so they're just wondering,

(38:08):
you know, just think, oh it just happened now, but okay,
but something happened prior, and you're not giving it's the
whole story because something usually comes it. Can it? Can
you have hitchhikers hitchhikers? Can you can be at a cemetery,
walk by a cemetery, visiting in a grave or something,
and you can end up with a hitchhiker, go into
a bar and end up with a hitchhiker and then

(38:30):
bring it home. And then that's how things start right there.
And that's when you have a spirit in your house.
That's when things like this will happen. It will happen
where you think, you know, all of a sudden, milk
comes through the carton, candles burn quicker than they are.
That's when you have a presence in your house. And
that's what's happening. So something, I'm pretty sure they're not

(38:51):
telling you the whole story on this one. Something happened
prior to this sort.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
What a client leaving out very important information? Yep, the
hell you say. I honestly don't know if I've had
a client yet that has told me the entire story,
you know. And sometimes that's intentional and other times not.
Sometimes things just happen where they don't think it's all

(39:16):
that important, you know, or it's not. They didn't associate
with this over with, they didn't associate call them a withold,
call them b you know, type of thing. But yeah,
for any of you paranormal investigator out there who are
just starting clients, they're their own worst enemy all the

(39:42):
all the time. Yeah, so be very very cautious. Not cautious,
but be very very sure you are asking the correct
questions to get to the heart of the matter, and
maybe even put in there, are you sure you have
and told me?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
You know, you sure you've told me everything, or even
ask you know what happened prior to this, because you know,
maybe it's something happened prior to bring something, and you
brought this in, went to visit a grade, went to
went to the bar, something else happened.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh yeah, that's always any time, whether it's a story
on the show or whether it's a client, anytime it's
been like, well it was this, this, this and this,
and then it jumped up, you know, to to level
four or whatever. Uh. The first question I always ask
is what happened? What was the catalyst? What was your

(40:36):
life like? Well were you doing? Did you do anything?
You know one of them? Did you go to a
haunted location? You know for a public investment? What what happened?
Because something happened to shoot it up the level four?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Correct? Uh?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
And it's usually the human fault. Yep.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
If it's again, it's seven years, nothing happen except for
a ghost. So yeah, definitely something happened prior that brought
this on.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yep, that's that's kind of where I was going with
the mother's illness, Like did she suddenly take a turn,
you know and in her illness to maybe maybe that
was the catalyst for it. But so yeah, I agree,
So let's move on.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Next one demonic possession in a dream. This is recent
vivid dream I had. The scene was really weird. I
was cornered by three women, not really cornered, but my
back was touched on the wall and the women were
standing in front of me. Those women were probably above
above thirty years old. I couldn't see their faces, but

(41:50):
I felt like that I knew them like family members.
But that wasn't the weird thing in the dream of
at all. There was another presence of something non human,
a tall, nine foot dark figure of a man with
a classic hat. I couldn't see his face either. He
was standing behind the women, and it looked like they
couldn't see him at all. Anyway, in the dream I

(42:13):
got possessed. I saw this fog or smoke that was
entering my body, but it ran away the moment it did.
The weird thing is that I felt like I was awake.
I felt the entity entered my body in real life.
When I half opened my eyes, I saw the fog
above my body, but I didn't believe what I saw,
blaming my sleep still sleeping mind at the time. What

(42:36):
do you think that this dream could mean? When you
get into a dream state, you can bring things into
the real world, and demonic things can do that. They
can enter your body and then come into the real world.
It's helped. It's like a wee gi board almost where

(42:57):
you can be that channel for them. Very careful because
if you see it happening, you know, feel it happening
through your dream. Be careful to guard yourself in the
real world because that can happen. They they will bring
people you know they again in your dreams. You will
trust them. They can even disguise themselves as people that

(43:20):
you know. This happens a lot in dreams where they
will disguise themselves to people you know that have passed,
your dad, your mom, loved ones and you see them
in your dream and then of course you trust them
because you think that's who they are and they're really not.
And then once you you know, are vulnerable, then they

(43:41):
can get into you and then they can come in
you know, when you wake up, they're into the real world,
and that's what you have to be very careful of.
So her seeing that I would clear, you know something,
death definitely happened, what came through her from the dream
state into the real world. So she needs to literally

(44:01):
clear herself and find somebody that can clear her home
and make sure that that isn't in her because that's
how they can use her as a capsule as well
to continue to carry them around, since she needs to
clear herself and her home.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Okay, that brings up an interesting question then, So if
they can just willing nilly enter you and use your
dreams as a conduit to come into the real world,
how a do you like tell if something like that

(44:41):
is actually happening, if they disguise themselves as people you know?
And two, how is there any defense against that?

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Always protect yourself. I've worn people all the time. Always
protect yourself, doesn't matter if you're in sleep state, if
you're it, because whenever you're vulnerable things can happen. To
continuously protect yourself, never leaving yourself off guard. It's the
veil is getting thinner and thinner all the time between

(45:14):
past president of future which we live at the same
time the other side, you know, dimensions, and so that's
why he's more easily done now are able to happen
now versus before, and so people are getting more and
more vulnerable because they're trusting that. It's like, oh, that
was somebody I knew, or she said she felt they

(45:35):
were family members, and you know she was kind of cornered,
but she wasn't scared. Well, they were being driven by
this entity that they didn't it was behind them, and
then it got into her because they cornered her because
she felt in her dream she couldn't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
So I don't like this at all, Sina. So what
what you're telling me is that because when I go
in to my dream, stay, when I go to sleep,
protection is not on my mind. It's trying to have
a dream of getting my car washed by the Swedish
Bikini team, Like that's that's what I'm in like, and

(46:20):
now you're telling me that in the blink of an eye,
like the Swedish Bikini team, which is doing a really
good job, or all demons trying to possess me and
come into the real world they can.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
But that's not somebody that's it's not a loved one
where you're going to be like trusting trusting. It's more
like you're wholehearted trusting them because it's like, oh, it's
my mom, it's my dad, and you're kind of like
literally like opened up completely.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Oh believe me seeing now, I fully trust the Swedish
Bikini team. They're going to do a great job. I
assure you.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Oh, I gotta let me know when you have that dream.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Me too. So so far it has not even come
close to happening.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
So is it just people don't realize how long all
brother are in their dreams because it can happen. It's
it's just i'd be really careful. But it's more people
and people do this all the time. They get scared,
they'll wake up and that's perfect because they want to.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Don't ask me, huh, I figured you were reading the
post that I did, and so I just.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
When when you get scared, you wake up, And that's
what lot of people they'll do. It's like when they feel,
you know, something scares them in their dream, they're gonna
wake up. They're not going to stay in their dream.
But it's just more like you need to start, whether
it's Crystal's in your in your place to guard you
when you go into a dream state, or just in
order to protect yourself before you go in.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Okay, So, okay, I had my question and now it's gone. No,
it seems to be happening a lot to me lately. Okay, So.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Say what if you're picking on me about my age,
I'm gonna pick on about your age. How old are you.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Younger than you?

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:18):
A lot?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
So uh yeah, I can't if I can't remember what
my question was. And it was a good one too,
which is which is bad because I was really looking
forward to your answer, but you just kept talking and
then it flew out the door. But so, and I mean,

(48:47):
I guess, do these entities or whatever do they look
for a specific person?

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah, it's whoever's vulnerable, you know, sometimes they're in there.
It's a very trusting state, just even scared. You know,
when you're when you're scared, you're vulnerable. And so I
was looking for people that it's easy to mainly weak
minded that you know, they're not protecting themselves. You know,

(49:12):
a lot of us are on our guard even when
we're sleeping. I'm in my card all the time, and
some of them aren't.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I I remember what I was going to say now,
even wrote down so I wouldn't forget. So I've told
you a lot about certain dreams that I have, and
almost all of them end with I got tired of
what was going on and woke myself up, you know,
But I don't think that I've ever like there there

(49:41):
are times where where like the dream scenes intense, and
so I wake up and it's instantly gone. I mean,
like the dream is just I can't remember, like almost
anything about it, except the fact that I wanted to win.
But I'm like, it must not have been a nightmare
or anything like that. I'm like, because my heart's not
I don't feel anxious. I'm just like, so, I mean,

(50:06):
it is it is that normal? I guess you could say,
Or is that just something that is like you? I
don't want to say unique to me? But is that
like you don't always protected?

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I mean, you know that you're very on guard, so
you don't leave yourself vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
But you keep telling me that I you know this happened.
This happened because you're leaving yours. How vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
In a different way. This is I mean as far
as like protecting yourself from negative entities, Oh, you're always
on your guard.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Well, I mean, in the last year, I've had dream
about a suckubits. I've had two instances with the hat Man,
but none of them made me feel scared like the
the bat Man. Number one was more confusing mm hmmm

(51:07):
uh and more apprehensive, I guess you could say, because
he's trying to come into my damn house. And the
second one was just like this is a really cool
background that he's suddenly you're bearing it.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
H Well, the second bus was just because of your
the vulnerable is in your love life. That was that
see against it's a different kind of vulnerability.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I was. I was, I was shrutting my emotional self
and that one that's never gonna happen again.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
But uh, as far as no, it's just there to
again to see if you're they'll show up and then
you're gonna go I don't think so. And then they're go, Okay,
we have no bower over this one, and they'll leave.
And that's why where this one was vulnerable showed up

(52:09):
and it's like, oh, we can get into that one
that can be our vessel boom.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
And it really doesn't matter if they have liabilities or not.
They can just choose anybody who may be in a
vulnerable state, in.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
A vulnerable state more if it's that not. I mean again,
I'm just going to tell you a lot of people,
even in their sleep, are on their guard. And so
she was just not on her guard. And it came
in because she was fear based on okay, these three
family members, because she said they seemed to be family members,
and she was against the wall, so she was cornered,

(52:47):
and so her guard you know, obviously even in the dream,
her guard was down.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah. I never trust anything I see in a dream
where I can't see the face.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
So she automatically like put her guard up, and she didn't.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Well, ah, yeah, is it true. Just change the subject
a little bit, So let's do so, let's do a dream.
But I keep thinking about the Heart Song these dreams,
and there's a line in it that is I'll try

(53:30):
to remember verbatim. But either way, you know, they talk about, uh,
there's lying there about you know, do you how it's
not surprising that in a dream people's feet never touched
the ground. I guess I've never bothered to look that closely.
But is that true or is that just something in

(53:52):
the song?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I think it's just something in the song. When we
look at people, sometimes we're sitting on the ground, were
riding a horse, so ground is.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Shown, the ground is shown, But you know, do we
have feet because something I can't remember that where I
heard it, something about if they don't have feet or
something like that, then.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
They're not then they can't touch the ground.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Well yeah, but but like they're they're they're like fake entities,
like they're trying to impersonate people. Is that is that correct?
Or just something again made up in a song or
somebody some some silly theory.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
No, I don't. I think that's just sure. That's that
would be like a soul or a spirit or a ghost.
That's what we see them as, because I don't we
never see them like full apparitions, will see them, but
usually they're translucent. So but no, I don't. I do

(55:10):
see solid and then it's ground and there's I guess
we don't pay attention to it. But no, I don't know.
I think it was just a song.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Okay, just curious since we were talking about dreams that
popped in my head. Yeah, alrighty, let's transition okay, And
since we don't have any questions yet in the chat
for any sort of reading, let's move on to our

(55:41):
main topic. So obviously Dave and I have have I
talked about this a little bit, you know, mostly just
when it comes to uh stories that we get of
parents like fearing for their child. You know, their child

(56:03):
is experiencing stuff and they don't know why, and he's
got his way of thinking about which I completely agree with.
But when you're on and we do stories, and this
is what brought this to my mind, and I told
you was the reason for wanting to talk about this
is you're always talking about and you've done so again tonight,

(56:27):
about people who like they have abilities, they don't realize it,
they're you know, they got abilities and the need to
be open about it. You know, you always talk about
people that may or may not have abilities, and so
I wanted to I wanted to talk to you a
little bit about this and have a discussion about signs

(56:50):
that may go that people can look at in either
themselves or the people in their lives and maybe get
a sense of they have abilities. I think it'd be
important to discuss the difference between abilities. And we have

(57:11):
to be careful about mental illness because I know that's huge.
You know, I wonder how many times people have been
put on drugs for schizophrenia and they and they're not schizophrenic.
They they have abilities. They're actually hearing like spirit voices.
But of course, like psychologists and stuff like that, they're

(57:33):
not going to go that route. A parapsychologist would, obviously,
but not a regular therapist or anything like that. They're
gonna put you on medication. So while we're waiting for
questions from the audience, and we will interrupt what we're
doing so seeing it can answer those for you, let's

(57:56):
talk about that. And so let's start with like self realization.
You know, like you're experiencing things and you don't know why,
you know, especially later in life. You know, the people
that write in you know, twenties and thirties and forties
and they've never had any sort of encounter, and now

(58:19):
all of a sudden, they are, like, what are some
things people can look for that that maybe like these
latent abilities which have been suppressed for the entire time,
are suddenly coming forward.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Okay, so everybody's born with abilities. As children we see
them more. And what happens is as if we go
through traumas as a child, and children take things three
times as hard as adults, those coping skills. They haven't
developed their coping skills, so they will shut down their abilities,
but they will keep up more majority, like ninety percent
of the time, they still keep open their class sentience,

(58:56):
which is reading people. And I say it wrong. I've
been corrected by this many times, but they've I don't
know how to say properly, but Claire sentience and Claire
Cognian is annoying. They help women's intuition. And no, that's
that's what you will have, you know, nine nine percent
of the time, that's what people have, but they don't
even know that they're using it. When you look at
somebody and you're scanning them, you're reading them. That's that's

(59:17):
clar sentience. You are literally reading energy. And that's what
you do business people. That's why they're really good at
business because they'll read people and then walk into know
what they have to deal with. It's just automatic. I'll
just tell you that ninety nine percent of people right
now are using it and they don't even know that
it's a psychic ability. And that's just literally reading energy.

(59:38):
When they're scanning somebody, you're reading energy. Clik Cognian is
knowing when you get like sick to your stomach, you're
not listening to yourself or but also listen how you're talking.
I knew that it's annoying, Claire cogniant I felt that
clar sentience. It's you're telling yourself what what ability you're using?
The other ones is you know, white pictures, you know.

(01:00:01):
I point to a period your third eye and clear
you know, and then clear audio behind your ear. You're
going to hear your name. You're in your head too much.
You're going to hear your name and you living around
going who said my name? Did you call me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Yeah, you're you're Those are your spirit guys telling you
get out of your head because you're overthinking, always in
your head. Then we have tastes to smell now people
that haven't you know, again, as childhood probably have we
have all of these abilities, but they get shut down
because of traumas that were going through. But then as
and we are born with these abilities to protect ourselves.

(01:00:36):
You know, we protect ourselves by reading somebody and see
if you know they're could be danger to us, or
it's a knowing knowing that they're wrong. You know, just
you have to, you know, pay attention to how you
feel or what you know because it's telling you. Then
as you get older, these abilities can open up again

(01:00:57):
because of traumas. People that have been major league abused
childhood and adulthood will be very, very gifted because all
of their abilities have opened up again for protection. So
you'll see that they are very clear sentience, are Clarcentians,
reading energy, Claire cognit and clairvoyant pictures. They'll see definitely

(01:01:23):
see things all the time, and then claire audio and
then peace and smell. They have them all because they're
in major trauma all the time. So their abilities have
opened up again to help them. But it's up to you.
So what happens is, though, is that the person itself
will shut them down. That's the only reason they're not working,
and that's a fear, fear of seeing what's held there,

(01:01:45):
fear of hearing, and that's why they're shut down in
childhood because you don't know when you're in a child
you didn't like what you heard. If there's a lot
of fighting that you grew up with, or a lot
of yelling fighting, you didn't want to see it anymore.
You didn't want to hear it, and it will shut
it down. Or even the tastes and smell like your father.
Your father is very abusive and he smoked your Your

(01:02:05):
sense of smell will shut down because of that. But
yet when you're getting older and going through traumas again,
major traumas, they'll all open up again. And to continue to,
you know, to work on these as you have them.
This like a muscle. The more you use them, the
stronger they'll get. And what I say is just continue
to read. You know, trust what you're getting. Read different people,

(01:02:28):
you know, just read their energy and you'll find the
different Because people all asked me too, what is the
difference between good energy and bad energy? You can feel
the different vibration. You can feel if it's a higher vibration,
it's a light vibration, can feel if it's a lower vibration,
because it's almost like it pulls you down. And so
you trust what you're reading. Then you know, that's why
you're you scan people, that's why you're scanning them to

(01:02:50):
see what kind of energy they have, if you can
trust that energy, if you can be around that energy,
And that's how you know we have We all have them.
It's just what we choose to open up. We've had
these abilities many lifetimes. We're just reawakening them to use
them this lifetime. But we're new aging them as well,
because we are evolving as well. So when as we evolve,

(01:03:11):
our abilities have to evolve, so we new age them
as they wake up. We have to new age them
to be able to use to use them in this lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Okay, so one of the things that and this could
just not have been. This could be another one of those.
They just don't think that column A has anything to
do with Colum B. But in a lot of the
stories that we've read, whether it's you and I, whether

(01:03:44):
it's David myself, and they talk about you know, these
things suddenly happening to them now you know, why is
it happening now? That sort of thing. They don't ever
talk about trauma or anything like that. So, I mean,
is it is it possible that these things could I mean,

(01:04:07):
can they be forcibly initialized by an entity?

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
By an entity?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Well, I mean, like, let's just say, well, I mean,
let's just say for the sake of argument, there is
whether human or non human doesn't doesn't matter, just an
entity that for some reason has chosen this specific person. Uh,
because they want their energy, they want their whatever they

(01:04:35):
want from them, and in order to get that, they
flip they forcibly flip on the switch because that will
create more energy for them. Can that be forcibly turned
on or heightened or intensified by whatever entity wants to

(01:04:58):
mess with them?

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I haven't seen it happen. Let's just put it that way.
I have not seen that happen because most people don't
realize they what happens is an entity we'll tap them
because the person doesn't know their potential yet, right, So
they have these abilities, but it doesn't doesn't help them
to open them up, which is because they're vulnerable because

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they don't know their potential yet and they're not using them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
So an entity couldn't kick it in high gear in
order to to a like make them more fearful or
make them more confused or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
They can make it more fearful. Okay, deah, they can
scare the crab bottom. But It doesn't mean it's going
to turn on their ability because of that. They can't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
But that wouldn't wouldn't that help normal?

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
I'll tell you what normally it on is somebody's best,
it's usually but being fearful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Well then I should be higher than you right now
on a level scale.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
You have don't have a lot of trauma throughout your life.
You haven't had a lot of trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
It had trauma.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Okay, there's drama and there's trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Okay, that's fair. I've had both. But I can see
where there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Okay, see, well we're talking about so for instance, a
friend of acquaintance of mine actually consols inmates, you know,
female inmates, and she's like, well, these are really gifted
and I said, of course they are, because they've been
through a lot of trauma. And she says, I never
thought about that, and I said, of course, I said,

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somebody who's been through a lot of trauma is very gifted.
And she goes, interesting, I'll have to talk to all
them about it. This is something that I've never really
thought about. And yes, it's I've many many people that
you know, our clients or that I mentor have been
traumatized and that's why they're very gifted. A lot of

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times people but you're going to ask this that so
why all of a sudden people start getting their ability
is coming around more, you know, or opening up more,
because they're evolving. As you go through life, you're also
going to evolve. So when it there's to certain types
times of their life or depending on how the planets
are or what's going on, it's called the Great Awakening

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right now, that's what's going on continuous for these quite
a few, like the past four years, it's been huge
about the Great Awakening, and that's what's going on. People
are evolving conuously now and so especially right now, people
are really starting to feel a lot of their abilities
that they have not before.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
What's going on, that's my catchphrase on this shows.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I mean, but everybody is right now they are highly
I mean, it's like, how come I'm also seeing you know, shadows,
I'm seeing you know, I can feel things more, you know.
And but it's also I'm gonna tell you is it's
also depending on their company. People's abilities can intensify or

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be heightened behind on if they're wrong. Somebody who's very gifted,
it will magnify their ability. So it depends on who
you're with. If you're you're around very gifted people, your
abilities will heighten as well. That's why a lot of
people who have children that are very gifted, when they're
with their children, their abilities are henced. And that's why
mothers when they're when they're pregnant, their abilities are usually

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higher than when they're after their childbirth. They're not as gifted,
you know, at that time because they're also working with
the child because they're very gifted.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Okay, well, then this is the follow up to my
question then, because you said an entity could not flip
the switch or intensify or or activate a person's abilities,
but the universe can apparently, isn't it so? Well, so

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my question is, sincere in the middle of a great awakening,
as you called it, I think we're all going to
sleep myself, But so if the universe as a whole

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thinks it's time for your abilities to kick in, whether
whether for your protection or whether for the grand plan
of the universe, or whatever the reason is, it could
then kick you into high here I want if it
wanted you to be able to see something, Yes, I

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can I say no, go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
You keep wanting to get on the council. Good luck
with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I want to talk to the council, okay, And so
far you haven't been able to arrange that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Oh I'm not going to arrange it, of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Course not, That's what I'm saying. And so uh talking
about it is moot. I mean, do they have a
book I can sign for an appointment?

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
I'm sure they got a long list of the wait
list there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I need to be yeah, or maybe be moved to
the top, you know that sip them at twenty you know, just.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Oh, you're going to give them that paper money that
means nothing to them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I can do. No, I'll do spiritual twenty spiritual money.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Spiritual money, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Spiritual money. It's a lot like monopoly, only invisible. But okay,
so we've just determined that an entity camp.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
But the universe can, yes, okay, you can to control
your entire life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Say what, the universe can.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Control your entire life? It just won't because they want
This is a human This is an experiment. You know,
the whole earth is an experiment. Is an experiment.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
All right, let's let's let's let's I guess, let's just
destroy religion while we're here, because apparently we destroy something
might as well, you know, people's belief system. Why not,
we got the afterlife, we got you know, maybe next
time you can, we'll destroy Christmas. But so we are

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constantly under the uh belief that we have free will.
You've talked about it, We've talked. Everybody talks about it
like that's the biggest gift that God gave us, was
free will. And yet you just said the universe can
control our entire lives, which gives away any sense of

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free will. Or apparently the free will is only there
as long as the universe wants it to be ours
or each individual's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Correct, So we get out of get out of control,
and then they take over.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Well that's a damn tragedy. Okay, Well you know there
you go. People, Well, the thing that you believe in
is only good as long as the universe agrees with it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
The reset button has been so many times on Earth
is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Well that's because we suck it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Now the time you know the movies the time machine
is true, it really has happened. It's home many times
that this has been reset and start over. You know,
I know, it's just like the universe is like saying, Okay,
this is the last time, guys, we're not spending any
more time on the science project that should have been
gone a long time ago. This is done. We're done.
So they get your crap straight.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Sweet in the span of five minutes, which is destroyed
faith and uh life, tell me life. As we know,
we're on a roll scena. What can we destroy? Next?

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
We were talking about abilities?

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Wow, well this is where you bring USA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Oh you No, no, you brought us here because I
kept talking about abilities. No, we're on that subject.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
You you said something that I had a question about.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, So now we're moving back and you talked.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
About what do you talk about, Dave, about going to
these down these rabbit holes and you're you're doing it now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
That's because you can't save the universe, can control your
life and not expect me to ask a follower question.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
No, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
And now that everything people live for and believe in
have been destroyed, we can move back to abilities. Okay, excellent, great, excited.
So okay, so let's move on now to we talked
about like self realization. Now as a parent of a

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child who is experiencing stuff, and Dave talks about it
all the time about don't just just don't think, as
a parent it's just an imaginary friend. Don't just tell
him that it was a dream. Don't dismiss everything that
the child is sane. So, but are there any clear

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cut signs, because sometime it is an imaginary friend, you know,
sometimes it is something that they made up. How can
you tell the difference between the two as a parent?

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
As a parent, start paying attention to your abilities.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
What are you picking up on, What if they've what
if they've suppressed them and they don't have any or
they don't have any that are active. Let me rephrase.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Then it's more of talking to your child about it.
What do they look like and how do they feel?
And you can rub it off the child. How are
they feeling about it? You know, what's your feel on
them and explain it to them. You know, it's like
does it feel heavy? Does it feel light? But childhood?

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You know, the the friends that they're seeing, you know,
they're seeing spirits, they're seeing ghosts and those are you know,
earthbone spirit. They're going to be there and they're going
to talk to big children. They've they've spent a lot
of time with the grandmothers and great grandmothers and they

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have passed away, they're going to come back and still
talk to those children. And so that's what you know.
These children are. You're very gifted. They can see demensions,
they can see, you know, different levels, and because of
our logic, as we grow older, we get logic in

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the way, so our abilities. We don't have them open
where they have. They're all completely open. They're all trusting
and say hey, what's going on? Oh hi there? You know,
they're talking to anything that they see. If they're you know, friendly,
they're they're very gifted and smart. They can pick up
on energy and know if it's a negative entity or not.

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But it's it's good to have a good communication with
your children, to talk to them about it and ask
them how they feel about it. You know, what is
it a light energy? Is it a heavier energy? And
then you'll kind of know about what's around them, but

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you're more of asking is it's never in their head.
I'll just tell you that it's not an imaginary friend.
It never is. It's actually something that's there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
So you don't think children actually have imaginary friends.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
No, No, it's something that's actually there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
There have been lots and lots of stories obviously over
the decades and whatnot of children having all of these
friends and they're playing and they're having a good time,
and then all of a sudden things start to change.
You know. That's when you know, the child starts acting
out and it's like the parents like, why did you

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do that? It's like I didn't, Susie told me to
do it, and blah blah blah. So I mean, if
that's the case and this thing is really like a
evil entity who is trying to weasel their way in
by pretending to be good, I guess, then doesn't that

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just prove that children can pick up on good and
bad they do.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
It's again, it's the trust thing. You know, a child
wants a playmate, and so what the ghosts, serve, spirits,
whatever whatever entity comes in and they're going to get
them to really nice and we're going to give you
and gift you and we'll be here. I'll be your friend,
you know, And so they'll get their way in to

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where that child will trust them and then not pay
attention to if it's a negative or positive energy. It's
just that, Oh, they're there to have fun with me,
and we're going to have fun, and that's what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
So as a parent, what do you do? Because I mean,
there are there are definitely spirits and goes out there
who mean absolutely no harm whatsoever. You know, like the grandmother,
you know that that comes back to play, you know,
like you know, maybe a former homeowner who really like kids,

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you know, and is what is also watching out for
the child and stuff like that, and playing with them
when there's nobody else around and stuff like that. But
you know as well as I do that if a
parent even believes at all in the paranormal and the
child starts talking about their imaginary friend, and even if

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things start happening in the house like one thing or
two things or whatever, you know, they're going to go
straight to a demonic entity. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
But so then, okay, you've got a friend, somebody's got
a friend that psychic. Contact that friend and have them
come over. That's what somebody did with me. They had
a grandchild who was really like holy crep syne, can
you please read you know I'm gonna have her come home?
Or can you reader? Sure? And I did. And that
thing when I was in that child was scared the crap.

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I mean it was scared of me. It was kind
of like weirdest teeth. I go, really, do you know
what I am? And it backed off, you know, like
and all of a sudden, my friends looked at me like,
holy crap, I go, yeah, there's something in there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
What are you me?

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
I'm a highly I'm very I'm very powerful, highly spiritual being,
and I don't believe in being scared. And I will
take on anything that comes and tries to to try
to attack children or anything around me because I'm a protector.
So I don't refuse to be scared of anything. I'll
take on anything. And it knew it. You knew I
wouldn't back down.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
So you don't have a cool name like like star
Seed or Indigo Child or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
I'm just a highly spiritual being.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Less disappointing. Okay, So we're trying to determine how I
want where I want this to go, because I I
think there's more to talk about with parents who believe

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and obviously parents who don't believe. Everything is going to
be the child's imagination. It was a dream they're going
to pass off everything.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
There's psychics all over the place, and if the parents
don't mind bringing them into psychics to talk to them,
that's what they can do. You know, you know, if
you've got a friend who is you know, is highly intuitive.
Just bring them over to the you know, the children
over to them and just see what they pick up on.
They'll be able to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
And then what do they do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
Well, they can find if they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Oh, I was gonna say, let me set the scene. Okay,
you bring your child. Let's say they bring your child
to you and you're like, yes, this child has abilities. Yes,
it's seeing this, it's seeing this. M hm. The what
do they do then? Because I know full well because

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I've had the cases before where it's just a revolving door,
you know, I you know, I've been brought in on
these type of cases and I've had to tell them, like,
I can get rid of what you're going through now,
but with your abilities, three weeks from now, something more
it's going to come in. Something else is going to
come in, and then after that, something else is going

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to come in, and it's got to be even worse
for children because obviously you know some of the time
they're even looking for it. They think it's the greatest
thing in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
No, I teach children what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Well, not everybody's you. I mean, I know my story.
I said, they brought them to you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
No, that's what I'm saying, because that's what parents can do,
is bring them to somebody that they trust. That's very intuitive,
but also knows how to teach the children how to
protect themselves. But the parents too. The parent needs to
be more involved as far as spiritually knowing that they
can protect their children, you know, bubble them up in
love and light to keep any anything you know to

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hurt them, but also talk to the children about it.
It's like, do you know protection, then you need to
protect yourself to be again, be very open and good
communication with your children. If they're having you know, if
they have playmates of some sort that are with the
parents not able to see to talk to them about it,
it's like, you know, well, who is it and if

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they are changing, obviously there's something bad there. So the
parent needs to seek action on finding out what it
is and get it out of there because it's affecting
the child.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Kay I had a question and it just vacated I
am and then I was like, no, I'm going to
be able to say this in about ten seconds, and
eight seconds later it was gone. So I should have
listened to the should have done it, but oh got it. Okay,

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children are open to everything, you know that that that's
what brought all the spirits and everything in is they're
they're open to everything. They don't have they don't have
that trauma, they don't have all that necessary coping stuff
in order to shut themselves down. So how as a
parent do you teach a child to protect itself?

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
This is thing that you do as an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
No, it's not because as an adult you have more experiences,
You have the coping, you may have something bad that happened,
You have a better understanding of the way the world works.
Therefore it makes more s sense to you and you
understand it better. But you don't as a child.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
But that's why said as a child, we talked to
them as an adult saying, okay, this bubble up, and
so we're gonna start with a heart chakra that's love.
And you see a bright light? Can you you see
a bright light? Because children have seen bright lights, they
know and not human sense, but on a spiritual sense,
and says, you know what love is. When they know
what love is, that's a bright light to them. I said, okay,

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that's what you start from. And now we have a
heart choker which is here. So you explain it to
him and you walk them through it and you teach
them protection.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
See, and I just had a million dollar idea. You
know how children get put into like karate classes and
stuff when there are kids, because then it teaches them
how to protect themselves. So now what we need. We
need psychic school. Sure we need to bring in the

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children to learn psychic karate.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
We're going to have a Harry Potter's Harry Power School.
But it's actually a psychic school.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Sure, we're not teaching them how to weave spells.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
What do you think there's We don't need wands to
a spell, is what we talk.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
It's all then, then the first the first name of
the psychic school is going to be Gryffindor Sure, gryffin
door psychic school. Sure, No, it can't be school because
it's not school. You're teaching defense, all right, So psychic okay,

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Gryffindor psychic Yes, make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Sena got it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Telling you million dollar idea.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
I'm perfectly on board on those. I have one I
continually teach. It's the first thing and I'm teaching my
classes is grounding and protection is the very first thing
I teach. And clearing because you don't want any hitchhikers
because these go on people keep walking into doing paranormal
stuff and not realizing that they're hitchhikers or something, so

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constantly having to teach a lot that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Okay, that brings up something else that was brought up
two weeks ago when we had doctor Kathy Chapman on Okay,
because she was talking about how loved ones and whatnot.
We'll just latch onto the people that they they loved
in life and cared about and blah blah blah. And

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you have an attachment a hitchhiker, which I took somewhat
exception to because for years and years of my entire career,
I've been telling people that it's intent that you have
to not invite a spirit to it catch itself to
you and then they can't and stuff. But apparently that's

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not the case. Apparently you can just attach yourself as
a spirit to whoever you want. And you were just
talking about hitchhikers as well, without talking anything about intent
or trying to do it. So when to child who
is like open it has abilities that are in use,

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would they be able to just pitch up a hitchhiker
walking through the shopping mark like a grocery store with
their mom.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
They won't attach themselves to follow the child.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
What's the damn difference?

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Oh, hitchhiker's were is completely in your energy. The other
one's just following you into your home. That's why I
said something brings it home. That's what happened on one
of the stories we were talking about that. Literally, I'm
guaranteed that they followed them home.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Either way, it's rude. Yeah, So they can just go
wherever they want, including into your home even though you
haven't invited them. I mean, I know they're not vampires,
and that's perfectly all right, as long as they don't
attach themselves to you, and and and anything doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
I'm not saying it's all right, but I will say,
loved ones, I don't it's not that they're attaching themselves
to you. They'll be around you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
They don't know I know, I get that, and that
was just the thing that that she was saying that
brought up the question. Okay, but now we're talking about
picking up hitchhikers like as kids and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Oh yeah, people when okay, So bars are huge for
it and cemeteries if they like your energy. You know,
people can be when they go and visit battlefields, you
can pick up a lot of goals, some spirits from there.
It's usually ghosts and they're earthbound and they'll attach themselves

(01:30:05):
because they like your energy, or they you remind them
of a loved one, they're gonna hop on board. You
reminded them of a girlfriend, they reminded them of their mother.
Maybe you know the other way around with me. They
remind you of a girlfriend, remind you of a boyfriend,
a father, and so they're gonna lock on you or
they just like you. Oh I like her, I want

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to be with her, or I like him, I want
to be with him, and they.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Will maybe maybe that's why I'm so abrasive. Nobody wants
to follow me home. And if I remind anybody of
their mother, then they had a really ugly mother. German,
I don't even get that reference, I'm going to leave

(01:30:50):
it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
But uh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Okay, yeah so that yeah, No, it's just that that's
why I always tell people to be careful. Yeah, when you're
you walk into any place, a bar, a cemetery, a
haunted home, very active, you know, paranormal active place. You
can pick up things just like that and walk home
with it. Children included. It doesn't matter the intention. They

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like your energy, they don't walk onto it. And that's
why when you walk out, that's why I will save you,
and I will make sure I'm watching that sage when
i'm saving somebody, to make sure that sage is not
outlining something that's on you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Let's be clear here, you sage everybody else, Yes, everything.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
As a reference, like people that are coming out of
the paranormal saging them all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
I know. I just just saying, I don't think you've
ever have you ever like actually saved me, No, like
you've you've done energy cleansing obviously, yes, and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Probably, And that's a clearing the same thing. It's just
that yours is more deeper. A staging is more of
just making sure that nothing's attached to you. Where if
I'm doing a cord cutting and clearing. That's deep, that's inside.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Yeah, he had to do that when I had to
occupant stream yep. Uh, she's never come back either, So
apparently I lost my sex appeal.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Nothing to do about sex appeal. You were mourning. You
were mourning love, you know, something that was a love connection,
and that's how that comes about.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Yeah, we don't even talk about that anyways. Okay, UH
have two more topics at least uh to get through.
So let's uh, let's talk excuse me, lost my voice
to this, let's talk about the whole Ah, because we

(01:33:03):
talked about science that you have abilities, but how does
that differ from maybe potentially having, you know, like a
mental illness. And let's just put that disclaimer out there
that obviously neither seeing nor nor myself are medical doctors.
So this is simply from our opinion and should not

(01:33:28):
take it as any sort of diagnosis or anybody. Yes,
but is there is there a distinct difference between the two.
I mean that people can see or notice.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
When people are like dementia, that's just people going out
of their body, ones that don't want to deal with
the world anymore, and they'll just choose to check out
and then they'll come back, and then they'll check out
and they'll come back. And that's what's going on with

(01:34:10):
people that are have There's so many things actually going
on with people that have dementia or old timers are
you know, there's so many things going on there. People
don't like their life or I don't to answer your question, though,

(01:34:34):
I don't feel there is any connection there of abilities
and mental illnesses. It's just that they're choosing to check
out and then come back. Far as not wanting to
be in their body, they don't like their meat souit,
they don't like what's going on, they like the world
that is done, and instead of doing out of body experiences,

(01:34:56):
they'll just choose so like I don't want to be here,
and then they'll come back in. And so that's why
people say that they can see themselves. You know, people
loved ones are sitting there over them and they're just
like hoovering over them, you know, just like I'm checking out,
I don't want to be here anymore, which is that
out of body experience. But they're just they're just not
liking their body. They they're not liking their life, so

(01:35:21):
they choose to not be there or abilities. You can
use them at any time. We wake them up until
you choose to wake them up and use them at
any time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Unless the universe decides for you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
The universe is going to allow you. They want you
to use your abilities, so they're never going to not
let you use that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Never.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
They want you to use your abilities. They want you
to wake up. But it's more of stop the chaos,
No more chaos, no more killing them or blowing yourselves
up the smooth they're trying to get to where you're
finally waking up. So it's love and light here and
you're working united and we're together, not killing each other

(01:36:04):
and dividing each other, which is what the government does.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Okay, then I guess take it from a psychiatrists point
of view, they get brought in, somebody gets brought in
or are they coming to themselves and they're like, I'm
hearing voices or this and that you know, I'm experiencing this,

(01:36:34):
I'm seeing this. Is there a way to tell whether
it's abilities or whether it's mental illness?

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Yes, if the psychiatrist is seasoned enough mm hmm to
know instead of continues it's it's not a book that dialysis.
It's knowing you if you're good enough in your field,
you'll know the difference. And it's looking at them reading

(01:37:14):
them again we're all clear. Sentience is strong. It doesn't
matter if we're all at least use that ability, and
they can scan that person and see what is it
that they're reading, what is it that they're sensing, and
tell well, it's a highly gifted person. Oh, this is
what's going on with them, because they're so gifted that
they can see past, present, in the future at the
same time, and they're seeing in dimensions, you know, and
it's just but a lot of them are just so

(01:37:37):
stuck in they're human that they refuse to listen to
what they're reading as far as reading energy. And that's
that's when you're like, no, you, that's you're not being
fair to the client because that client needs to have
an honest opinion and a dialysis what's going on, you know,
it needs to be you need to be honest, like

(01:37:59):
this has nothing wrong with them. There's highly gifted and
unfortunately they're seeing past, president of future and they're there
instead of being able to stay in the present time,
they're able to hear people on the other side, because
they're talking to us a lot of times. That's what
it is. Is they're literally hearing people talking to them on
the other side, and they don't know that because they're

(01:38:21):
how they gifted, so they're a medium, and they don't
know that they can shut that off. You know, they
weren't around other people that were gifted or growing up
with people, so they didn't know that, Oh, this is
what it is, and this is how I control it,
and I can choose to shut that off. You know,
the voices, that's what it is. It's just hearing voices
from either different dimensions or on the other side, and

(01:38:42):
that Unfortunately, the medical world just wants everybody to be
on pills and continue to have a continuous client. Tell
that that's not what they're going to They're not going
to give you a truthful diagnosis. So it's too bad
because way too many times. And I'll have told them too,
because I a friend her her son was like that.

(01:39:05):
I said, I looked at her and goes, he's highly gifted.
I says, nothing wrong with him. I said, get him
off of all of his meds. And I was very serious.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
I was very pushy about it because I'm like, no,
you get him off of all of his meds. I
did immediately. I said, you need to clear him and
get him off his meds, and I will work with him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Because I said like, yeah, and how is he doing now?

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
You do very well, very well. He's like, oh my gosh.
He goes like, I understand what I'm seeing now, And
I said, yeah, I did you ever have any questions
you call me? I said, you're just you're able to
say angels and he says, you know, that's who's talking
to you. It's a lot of the angels are around you.
I said, you're highly gifted, but you're you're from the
angel realm. And he says, they're just talking with you.
And I says, you're there's nothing wrong with you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
M and you gave a medical diagnosis.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
I just told him what was the truth. I don't
like medicines myself, so it's very irritating when I here
people are on meds.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
So I don't mean to laugh. I just got the
flash of deep Thoughts by Jack Handy, an old Saturday
Night Live bit, and it was and it was my
father always believed that laughter was the best medicine. I

(01:40:22):
guess that's why we all died of tuberculosis. Wow, one
of my favorites. So okay, I guess we'll move on
from there. Now, let's talk about suggestions from either We

(01:40:48):
can start with people who want to explore their gifts,
whether later in life or whether as a child or
I'm assuming that you can really do it at any
age and it's probably the same both ways. So we'll
start with people who want to explore, like give, like
how can they best go about it? And then I've

(01:41:11):
come across a lot of stories and a lot of
people who believe they have abilities and don't want them.
So how even though I know the universe doesn't want
you to do it, is there anything people can do
to just shut them down? But we'll start with people

(01:41:31):
who want to explore.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Explore, Okay, so explore. Like I said, it's just like
a muscle. So yes, for one is trusting yourself. People
don't trust their abilities and what they're getting and.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
So they.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
So they have a hard time even working on them
because of that. And it's just you know, get some
get some mentoring. You know, it's just like coaching.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
They always tell you when you're in business, get a coach.
It's the same thing with abilities. Go get somebody who
can help you to work through them with you and
to help you enhance them and how you can use
them to improve them. It's until people. If you don't,
everybo know it's your clear sentience. So or has the
ability of putting up that they know, but they have clarentience.

(01:42:20):
So close your eyes and have somebody. You'll have a
couple of friends sit around you and then put their
keys in your hand, but you don't know who it
is because you close your eyes and you don't know
whose keys are in your hand. And then what are
you picking up on it? What are you feeling from them?
And sometimes you also your clear buoyance will kick in
and start you'll start seeing pictures as well as like
the house that came from You know, it's just you're

(01:42:41):
you're reading the energy off of those keys. It's like,
this feels like there's a car key on there, and
this is what the car looks like, and this is
the house key, and this is what the house looks like.
And that's how you work on your abilities. Start working
on and then writing down questions of people and then
closing your eyes and answering them. You know, what do

(01:43:03):
you feel on these and start answering them. You can
do that just by answering questions on a paper because
you're you know, you're when you read people, you're reading
literally like tapping into them, reading this question and then
tapping into them and picking up the answer. That's that's
working on your abilities. But trust what you get, don't

(01:43:23):
second guess it. So I'm going to tell you too,
this is the thing people, when you're very clear sentience,
which is reading people. Again, probably saying it wrong, but
when you're reading energy, when you're always in your head,
you're going to second guess yourself. So go back and
close your eyes. It's the very first thing that you
felt is the correct answer every time. It's when you say,

(01:43:46):
guess it's the wrong one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
I feel personally attacked by that, Sina.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
No, it happens to a lot of people. That's I
always say, close your eyes. It's just it's a lot
of people do it, you know, because you're always thinking, overthinking, oh, overthinking,
and so it's disclosure eyes because your human gets in
the way. That's why always asking to close their eyes
and then what are you feeling? Very first thing because
you can stop yourself and gokay, it was the very

(01:44:12):
first thing that I felt, that's it? Or what did
I know? The very first thing that I knew? Very
first thing. And so when you start talking yourself out
of it, like well, what do close your eye? Go
back very first thing, and that's the stop. Don't think
about it, and don't don't think about it, Just what
did you feel? There's no thinking involved, it's just what

(01:44:33):
you felt. That's your human. Otherwise it's getting in the
way when you're thinking about it. That's your human getting
in the way. And that's the clear sentience and the
clear comedy is just trusting what you're You know that
you're you're getting. You know, it's a knowing. I knew that. Okay,
then you trust what you get. If you don't, you're
gonna get sick to your stomach because that's otherwise. See,

(01:44:54):
that's what happens. That's why a lot people will get
sick to their stomach because they're not listening.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
What if you are listening and what you listen to
is the one that makes you sick of the stomach.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
That's just because you can't swallow it. You swallow the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
If I what if I can and understand, I just
don't agree with it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
I know what you're referring to. You just have to
trust what you get. It doesn't matter if you agree
with it or not. You have to trust what you
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Does it matters to me?

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
Yeah, But that's your ego getting in the way. Then
you're yet that's the human again. You're ego is human.
We're trying to control it. Trust you trust what you
get and just deal with it. Because you're asking for
the answers. So if you're going to ask for the answers,
you need to just deal with what you're going to get.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Just because I know the answers doesn't mean that I
have to agree with the answers.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
No, you don't have to agree with it. But it
is you're going to ask the answers and you're using
your abilities to get those answers. Seeing to trust that
you get and get your ego out of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
I do trust what I get. I don't agree with it.
Let me let me re your phrase here. It's not
that I don't I think I think with the miscommunication
here is is when I say that I don't agree
with it, I don't mean that I don't trust what
I'm getting. I get what i'm getting, and I believe

(01:46:27):
what I'm getting. But because it involves other people making decisions,
it's the decisions that I know the reasons why they're
making that I don't agree with. That's when I don't
agree with that. It's not the answers that I'm getting,
it's that I don't agree with why the answers are
what they are. But that's that's for another time, Okay.

(01:46:56):
So I mean, obviously, the big the big suggestion obviously
is to find a mentor, yes, that that can guide
you along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Yeah, and I mentor, I I'll be teaching maybe, Yeah,
I'll be teaching classes again. Might well just put it
out there. I'll be teaching classes again. The psychic development.
Taking this you be a eleven week course and it's
to you know, we have a yeah, it's eleven week
course because you work on things every day. It's a

(01:47:29):
two hour a day once a week. So we do.
And it's starting away from you'll starry protection and then
grounding and then you know, it's continuous things they will
focus on. But these are things that you've done, you've
used in past lives. This is not the first time
using them, so you're just are you doing as you're

(01:47:51):
waking them up and you're you're new aging them this
lifetime and I'm going to suggest on how to do them.
But then you're finally gonna it's going to come back
from a past life and how you use them, and
then you're going to be able to use them the
way you did done, but you're going to anuwage them.
So it's going to be like a supercharge be able
to use them in a different way this lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
And email. I'm going to give you a chance to
do it at the end of the show anyways, but
since we're talking about it, if anybody would like you
to be a mentor, how would they go about getting
hold of you?

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
My email address is readings by Sina at gmail dot com,
or you can go on my website. It's insightful soul
dot com and my information is on there. Actually I
have to change my I moved recently, so I have
to change my address on there. But otherwise, know that

(01:48:46):
my email address is on there so they can always
email me on there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
Okay, So I know that you're hesitant to do this.
But it's important to do both sides of the story.
So if people don't want their abilities and they want
to suppress them and put them down to you know,
put them in the back of the back of the
head or whatever, how would they go about doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
They shut them off, just exactly how why they don't
have them have all the abilities open? Now you shut
them down as a child. You can shut them down
as an adult. You can just choose not to use them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
But a lot of people don't seem to be getting
that choice.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
Okay, depending on what it is. So I've I've helped
I also help people with that because a lot of
people are not ready to be because some will come
you know, your abilities, some will come in stronger than
others because again, where you shut down. So a lot
of people that are mediums and can have are very
easy to talk to the other side, they don't like it.

(01:49:49):
And I teach them how to shut that down and
tell them, you know, when I'm ready, then I will
open up and they will talk to them. They'll say, no,
I'm not ready yet, and so they I won't think
that's how you shut it down. I'm not ready yet.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
It seems fairly simple.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
It is, like I said, you've shut them down as
you know, as children, you've shut him down because you
didn't want to hear the fights or see the fights anymore,
or the trauma that was going on as a child,
and you shut it down and do the same thing
as an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Okay, I have a follow up question for something else,
but we'll wait till after the showy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Talk for an hour after the show.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
But I got by the way, no we won't because
I want to also go watch the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Football game, say by the football game.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
But I am hungry, so I also need food.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
I ate before I got food I ate before.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
Well it's just good to be seen, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Yeah, because I don't need this light.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Everybody Yeah, well I yeah, Well here you go. Okay,
So we did all that. So if the final ten
nine minutes show actually like eight minutes, since nobody has

(01:51:22):
thrown in any any questions for like one question reading
for you, I will okay, So first for anybody who
uh comes for a reading from you, like what are
some of the things that people come to you?

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Four?

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Like what are your your specialties in helping people when
you do readings?

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
Their abilities? They're starting to see things, and a lot
of them will tsk me first to see if I'm
the real thing. But now I'm finding, like the last
couple of clients that i've had to actually when they
see me, they read me and they're like, oh, yeah,
I want to go with you. And I'm like, yeah,
come on in.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
Yeah you're just weird looking like that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
They'll just read me right away, that'll like scan me.
And I don't even tell them when they walked in.
I'm like, oh, you clear sentience and you know, but
I ask permission, you know, and I'll just say it's
like you're here because you're they're experiencing a lot of
a lot of things in your life right now and
a lot of whether it's a lot of changes or
your your abilities are enhancing, and you want to know
what to do now, And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, okay,

(01:52:28):
let's start from there, you know. You know, it's like, okay,
we'll start for you know, it could be anything about
their lives or abilities, and I'm playing with their abilities
are a lot of people don't realize what their abilities
are or that they even have abilities. Everybody has abilities.
They come in psychic they come in impaths as well,
which is they're picking up on people's emotions or physical

(01:52:53):
pain or even emotional pain you're feeling. That's an impath.
Psychic is reading people's energy, knowing, seeing visions, hearing, you know,
not from your ear, but from behind your ear. It's
your your here, that's your clear you know there, clear audio,
and then audience, yeah, clear audio. And then so then

(01:53:16):
tastes and smell, you know, when you're walking into a
room and you're like, what the heck is that taste
or that smell? Yeah, you're not. You're picking up on spirits,
and it can be your grandpa. I can be your
path levels. A lot of times too, they're asking about
now my grandma feels like they're around now, or they're
not around. I can't feel them anymore. And they'll come
in and they'll ask me about that. So it can be
about loved ones. It can be about their abilities or

(01:53:36):
like right now, people are going through a lot of
trauma about at work and relationships right now. That's what's
happening with right now with a lot of people. And
they're coming in for they'll ask me about what do
I do about this? And you tell them. You know,
it's always choice, but this is what you know they
need to do. This is what's showing up and this
is why.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Okay, fair enough, So here's my question. So before the show,
I was talking about all the things that I am
changing and upgrading and enhancing and moving forward with and everything.

(01:54:21):
So without going into I don't I don't really think
the details of it matter at the present moment. But
will I will it all be successful?

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Permission to give you information?

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Okay, this is the one thing I always ask first
before I go into it any readings.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
I know, and even though you know you always going
to get it, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
But I always ask it. So you're trespassing otherwise, Yes,
make sure you stand your path though, and just keeps
saying this how and when I refer to they as
your spirit guides, and they said, you need to continually
be passionate about what you do. Stay passionate about what

(01:55:07):
you do, and everything will turn out and stop with
the worries, no fear, no fear based, no worries, and
everything will work out. It's definitely, it's definitely what you're
supposed to be doing. This is what you wanted. You've
actually created this. This is what you wanted, so that
it's being created for you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
I kind of figured as much. That was my clear sapience.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
Trust what you get, don't question it. Yeah, because you
definitely definitely wanted this is it's actually for a long
time now. They've asked why you know, I mean they
asked me alread you know the answer, but they're like,
why did you wait so long? I said, because he's
worried about finances and now he's got the finances that
he could do.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
It now, and so I shall mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:55:55):
But you asked for finances, so that's how it came in.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
Well, I mean that was the biggest uh it's hurdle
was uh what was finances? So okay? And then I
guess even though I already know what they're gonna say,
because they always say the same damn thing. Uh. Do
my my spirit guys have any actual, like general messages

(01:56:24):
for me.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
Yeah, start listening to yourself, man, you get out of
your own way.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
I thought my mom was the one that said that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
You know, your spirit guys are too. They're they're they're
teaming up on you now because they're just like you
need to start and they says, you know, and not
tooting my own horn. But they're like, why did you
stop seeing her for you know, working on abilities? Because
you you don't. You kind of like stopped. You got
excited about all of it, you know, the Okay, need
to buy all this stuff. I'm gonna do all this
for the team. But then you need you need to

(01:56:52):
still work on yourself spiritually. It's very important that you do.
They don't know why, though you're human down in the way,
it's well, it's a human. It's attachments. You got you
got more attached to human stuff. Again, it's attachments.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
I like attachments.

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
Yeah, I know, you're like a little kid in a
candy store. Oh I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Yeah, and it makes me feel good.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
Yeah, you're saying distractions is called minions. You know, we
keep putting distractions. That gets you off your path.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
Maybe my path is to deal with the minions.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
But how do you deal with dominions if you don't
work on your abilities?

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
A punch in the face.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
Okay, let me know how that works for you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
Well, on that note, hey, around of time, I don't
make the rules in it. I didn't either, No, No,
you did well, honestly, thank you for coming on obviously again,
yes you're welcome, Thank you, And and Dave has already

(01:58:07):
given me his vacation schedule okay from the show, so well, uh,
we'll see about bringing you back if I can figure out,
you know, what we want to destroy next Okay, but again,
you know, I know you just did so like five
minutes ago. But if anybody would like a reading mentorship,

(01:58:32):
your your wisdom, uh, for for whatever may or may
not be going on in their lives, where can they
where can they best reach you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
My emails readings by Sina at gmail dot com or
then go on my website at insightfulsoul dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Perfect, perfect, All right, Well, Dave and I will be
back next week. We'll be talking about crop circle excuse me,
crop circles next week, and then the week after that
we have a very very special show for you guys.
Two historians from the Wabashaw Street Caves who are going

(01:59:12):
to be coming on the show to talk about not
only the history of that establishment, but the haunted history
of it. So it's going to be filled with amazing stories,
both historical and spiritual or supernatural. I should say, you're
not gonna want to miss that show, so yeah. Until

(01:59:33):
next week, stay healthy, stay safe. We want to see
you back here. Everyone, have a great night, Have a
good night, everybody.

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