Episode 321 - Aliens with Psychic_Medium Sena Dyksman

It's a very special one hour episode of the Odyssey Files as we all wish Dave a very happy Birthday! At least, we'd love to do that, but he took the night off! So, Mike welcomes back to the show as special guest co-host, psychic medium, Sena Dyksman!


With his knowledge of not only our universe but of other dimensions, Mike and Sena will discuss Aliens! Are they actually here? Where are they from? Why are they here? These are just the beginning of the questions that will be asked!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
USh I.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I good evening, Paranormal community, and thank you for taking

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in this amazing special edition of the Odyssey Files, which
comes at you at the exact same time as we
always do, but it's still special.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I am your host, Michael O'Neill. Mister birthday boy, mister
David Sawyreen, whose birthday is Tuesday, decided he needed more
days to celebrate, so he is not with us here tonight,
but as always I have a special guest co host,
Miss Sina Dyke's been good evening, Sina. How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't mean, Michael, how are you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm all right, that's good. I have recently so I've
been upgrading all of my teams's equipment and stuff like that.
And I can't believe it's taken me this long. And
this is going to go to people who are interested

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in or who are part of teams who have not
realized this, and it has taken me almost ten years
to finally do it. And this is what I can't
and that is upgrading the batteries to rechargeable.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh yeah, they took you this long.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
It took me almost ten years of being a director
of the team to be like you know what, I
spent a lot of money on batteries and I don't
need to. And so about sixteen double as, sixteen triple as,
ten nine volts, all rechargeable, bought the charging equipment, and

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I'm just like, I'll never have to spend another time
on batteries.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Nice. And are you saving you know, in landfill too? Cool?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, who cares about that? And that's what landfills are for,
to take all of my batteries, you know, all of
my trash and junk and cardboard. I know Mother Earth
doesn't like you know, they're like moles on her back.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well, it's harmful to her that, you know, any kind
of stuff like that for the planet. It's not healthy
at all. You know, take a fungus or you know,
in your body. You know, if you've got a foreign
object in your body, how is your body going to react?
And the same thing with Mother Earth.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's fair And it's kind of a nice segue into
into our topic tonight, because we want to talk about
things not of Mother Earth but could be and probably
are here to help us help Mother Earth.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Could be they are.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And that is obviously aliens. Now that's obviously what what
we call them. So the thing that that I guess
I don't want to say bothers me because it doesn't,
but you know, it's it's something because everybody, if they
don't know the actual name, they give them nicknames. Like

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I've got a lot of people at work that I
like see every day, but I have never talked to
no idea what their name is, So I just make
nicknames up for them until until I learned their names.
So we call them all these like aliens and grays
and reptiles, and you have all of these bigfoot sask
we make up all these names, and yet we don't

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know what their actual name is. Are so uh throughout
throughout the show here tonight, let's let's try to throw
in a name or two if you know them, Like
what what they call themselves? So, I mean, we call
ourselves human, but if people visiting our planet did not

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know that, or we were we started visiting other people's planets,
they would call us extraterrestrials, right, well their word for it, anyway.
So do you know.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
What some of them call them our future selves? Some
of them are it's just our future selves coming in ahead.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well no, so, but that's a nice point because on
our last show, which was like two weeks ago, uh,
Dave like veered off into an off ramp that shouldn't
have even been there to begin with, but he found

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it somehow behind the shrubbery about a documentary that George Knapp,
who is you know, a very very well respected journalist
in the paranormal field, now has a Netflix and that
theory has actually come up in it, where the what

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we call aliens now are actually our future selves correct,
and that like our normal evolutionary track where our heads
get bigger, our eyes get bigger, and our bodies get
smaller as we evolve, would look like the grays yep.
And so I guess now I have two questions. One

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is that correct? And two? Why are we probing ourselves?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's not you, it's that's a different kind. It's not probe.
It's it's seeing how much we've evolved. So when you're probing,
it's just like when you're dissecting, you know, and doctors
when they're seeing how we've.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Evolved, they're they're they're not yeah, violating our rectal cavities,
they're giving us colonoscopies.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
They're just scanning to see how far we've evolved, you know,
physically and mentally. You know, they want to check to
see how far we've come and if we're being affect
you know, the environment is it's you forget, frogs are
what we've watched as humans, you know, our human part.
We watch to see frogs to see if there's any

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defect in the frogs, and then we know that there's
a problem with the planet. Well, the aliens that come
here just to check us out, to see how we're
affected by the environment, and that's what they're doing. There's
keeping an eye on us. And they come down here
and you know, okay, and there's the bad ones that
will actually dis sect you. That's not what we've got.

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We have our future selves that are not always all
good either. So those are the ones that are coming
here to harm us, the ones that get I mean
there's an abduction, and then there's ones that have things
done to them.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to like what's what I'm looking
for here? Like walk the line between details and generalizations. Yes,
for this is the family show. Yes, that's why I
say so. Well, then I I guess I have so

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at some point in time and are very very very
far future. I'm assuming we just we discover the ability
to time travel. We have now, okay, so we have
the ability now to time travel.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, you'll see in there's a lot of things that
come up on social media and doesn't mean if it's
Instagram or YouTube, but you'll see people now that are
in the past and they're in photos and it's true,
they're time travel all the time. We time travel.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I have.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I have these people that I know right now that
are I mean I could literally I do reading that.
I'm like, oh, you're time traveler, and I other kids
looked at me. I'm like you, I'll explain it to
them how you know specifics and they're like, yes, that's
what happens to me. I say, yeah, you're a time
traveler and in the past life you were as well,
and it's there in this type time we live past
president of future at the same time. And so time

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travel really isn't that hard, but is there's some that
have our actually our time travelers. They are we actually
call them historians because I'll go back and check, you know,
making sure things are on track like they're supposed to
and not off track to alter history. And so That's
what a lot of the time travelers are is to

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you know, historians, to make sure everything's we're supposed to be,
because if it's set off track, it's it can cause problems.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Couldn't it set things right? Though?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's what they do. That's I said, I'll go back
and see if if something is altered and it's not
supposed to be, they'll goal corrected.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Okay, because I mean, I know this is kind of
veriing off topic as always, so I mean that's kind
of the the whole ethical question of that you give
people all the time is you know, if you have
the ability to time travel, would you kill baby Hitler?
You know and stop all that happening? So you have
people that can time travel now and they leave and

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they leave that alone. So apparently that is supposed to have. Yeah,
well that's sad.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
It is it is. It's the world, you know, it's
just things that happen. When again, Earth is a science project,
so as you know, they you develop a species and
then you see how it grows. But we've we've been
reset so many times, you know, that's and there's so

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many things in history we've actually you know, a time machine,
you know moves about that is actually true. We've had
we've been reset so many times, and the universe is saying, okay,
this is that no more. You know, I'm our science
project has gotten out of control too many times and
we're done sitting there babysitting it. And that's when you're
hearing about the Old World and the New World is

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going to be splitting. And that's you know, the old
World New Earth. You know that's gonna be splitting because
they're done and Mother Earth is tired of being depleted
all the war wars and everything, and you're killing her,
you know, and blowing holes up in her and putting
you know, warfare. You know, they've got the we've got

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chemical warfare, you know, and that's killing her. And so
she's tired of it and she's a living being. People
forget about that. You know. When you start doing stuff
to Mother Earth, you know she's going to fight back.
And she's done.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
So see this is what I have such a hard
time rapping my head around. We don't need to get
in too much because it's it's such a philosophical conversation
and it's so complex. It would take up the entire
hour and then we completely missed the whole thing. But
it seems to me that we have all of the help,

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we have, all of the answers, we have, all of
the tools, we have all of the abilities that we
need in order to be successful in this, in this experiment,
and yet we do none of it because and I
don't and I don't mean just us, but I mean,

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like I said, the people who are like being brought
in to help us or come here to help us,
or see how we're doing or whatever. We have all
this ability to set everything correct and do the right thing,
and nobody does anything at all to do it.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's not no, but no, that's how we're here. We're
whether you want to call us light workers, you want
to call us your hearts, highly these spiritual beings we
come in to help. So we can only do so much.
And we have just as many aliens and being you know,
species that come here do mind control that cause problems.

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So you know, we're doing as much as we can.
And Wake, I'm waking as many people as I can
to help because it's you know, as a battle. This
is the Awakening's it's called the Big Awakening because if
people need to wake up and find what's really going
on and don't allow the mind control. When you wake up,
you're not in mind control anymore. It's like, oh, oh
my gosh, what's really going on? Holy crap, you know
it's matrix. Wake up. You know, you're finding out what's

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really going on, and then you need to start taking
control and you know, getting out of your mind and
you know, focusing on what's really going on, you really
get out of that you know, delusion, because this is
all an illusion, you know, and it's just like roll
one one soul living out these you know, I'm you, you,

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you're me, living out different lives and but this is
we're all here to live out the experience. You know,
we're here to live out a human experience. That is
what we're here for and different things. But it's just gotten.
It gets out of control, you know, power, ego, money,
It gets out of control, and this is what happens.

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M But the species love is because the human mind
itself is so easily manipulated. They're they're very vulnerable and
because of that, the species know that. So they sit
there and come down here and they pick on them
and you know, like, oh, we're just going to take
all your your resources because we want them. And yes,
mind control you to be zombies more or less mind controlled.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Sweet like you said, very complex conversation, which we're okay. Yeah,
well now we're not going to have right now. So
let's start one with this universe. Let's start with the good. Okay,
So we have already determined that some but not all,

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of what we would call aliens are actually future us,
not future me, because if it is, you already know that.
I think he's a douchebag.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Oh yeah, that many times?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yes, yeah, well that's fine. Then he can shove something
up my rectum and then we can all be all right.
He can come visit me anytime he wants. Let's just
put it that way, okay, unss he already has. I
don't know, but what a douche he's not allowed in

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my room. And he knows this.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
All your future self.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm aware of that anyways. So non future self, non
time traveling us, who do we have that it is
here on a I guess permanent type basis that is

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here to help us. What can you tell us about them?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Those are like I said, light workers, it's from a
very higher, higher source and that's the ones that are
very gifted. That's what the we call them levels. So
it's like there, indigo children, they've got your you know,
which are adults now, but they're aquarians and pissians. Aquarians

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are no scotiators. Pissians are fight the warriors. And then
the next ones and that's going to be your millennials.
And then you've got your let's see, crystal children, and
those are ones that come in you see, we're actually
clearing the path for each one and they're coming through.
And then you've got your rainbow children just come in

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here and they know what they need to do.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
The crystal children are very they can see your potential
and then you keep giving you chances. And those are
the very kind hearted. They're loving, you know, but and
they're usually the bigger eyes. You see, the big eyes.
They're beautiful. And then the rainbow children that coming they
just mean, they have purpose, they know and they come
here and do these to do it. Those are the
higher beings. And then we've got our lizard people.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
What do they call themselves? Should have been to call
themselves lizard people if you know, if you don't know, that's.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Fine, No, I mean they we it's just what we
call them, and they just like whatever. They have their
own names. So I don't Yeah, reptilians, I suppose that's
what they're they're known for.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
What they're known for. What do they call themselves? Oh? Okay,
I'm curious because I I mean, honestly, I've never heard
anybody be like, oh, the reptilians. They're actually Google a
box or whatever they call themselves.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
And I'm not from like, there is quite a few names,
and I'm not familiar with them.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And so I mean, all of these people that you
just mentioned, all all of these aliens that you mentioned,
are all what we call, you know, our fellow humans.
You know, like Cameron I believe is an Indigo.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
I believe she is a Crystal child.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Crystal child.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Okay, they can be crossed too, so like my children
are Indigo and Crystal my daughter is more or less
I don't want to say on Earth, but I don't
have permission to talk about them. But it's so it's
just some of your the children are across, but not just.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
One, right, So, but they're all they're all in human form.
They don't have any other form except.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
They take on a human form because the human mind
itself can The humans can't comprehend you know, if we
if they find out what we Women in Black, you know,
the species from that show, they could never comprehend it.
They would go crazy if they found out was really here.
They couldn't comprehend it, not at all, driving crazy. So
that's how we take a human form. The only reason
we take.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
A human form, what do they normally look like?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
All the different ones? Is again, literally, if men in
Black is all so many different species, it's ridiculous, right, No,
I get that, okay, And and Star Wars seriously, that's
another actually version of it. You know you watch Star
Wars and you see all the different you know, when
they're going into the bar. Yeah, that's definitely that's what's here.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
But the form Yeah yeah, General uh, I can't remember
his name now, but anyway, I'm probably gonna get kind
of some flak for that one.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Not knowing no idea.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
What the general's name, like, I can picture him in
my head, but uh, thinking about it, General fish face,
I guess you could say. But uh hmmm, that's interesting.

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I'm sorry, I'm contemplating this maybe Okay, well, I let
me tell you that.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, So people don't realize that there's thirteen thousand galaxies
out there, and you have to remember there's species in
all these galaxies, and they come here, whether it's to help,
whether it's to mind control what you take the you know,
they like the sources that are here. You know, they
like the minerals and stuff like that, because a lot
of the planets are depleting of this, and so they

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come here to mine a lot of the resources and
take them. But in order to do that, they feel
they have to literally take out the humans. And so
a lot of us are here to help with the humans,
but also you know, work on because we've been here
so long, we've got our karma to work on our lessons.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
So it would, honestly, and I haven't seen it, but
it seems to me like the movie Alien Versus Predator
is like, what is going on and just like here
in their way. So you've you've told me for years,

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we're in the middle of a battle good versus evil. Uh.
You know, obviously a lot of people take that, you know,
as the war between heaven and Hell. And I'm sure
that for a lot of people that's that's not far
off metaphorically speaking, you know, for for for that war,

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but yet you have all of these again, and I
bring up the exact same point I just made earlier.
It seems like we're I guess losing.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Like actually we're not. Believe it or not, people are
starting to yet it literally integrate awakening. People are waking up.
When they're waking up what they really are and how
they can help. It's just again the phases of you know,
it's the Indigo is you know, the Crystal children, the
Rainbow they are very gifted and very powerful, but also

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are you know, as star beings or I mean, we're
all different species, but we are very gifted and we
come here and we're starting to help others understand what's
going on out here and how to recognize it by
using their abilities. They know, a lot of people don't
even realize that they have abilities and what they really

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are when you're waking them up and you're trying to
book these are the abilities that you have, and this
is how you can use them. And you also have
these when you decided to a use them. And when
they do that, they're like all of a sudden, now
they're seeing stuff they never saw before and now they're
able to help. The more they sty're more confident and
find out what they are, now they can help. So
it's just awakening these and then there's like a domino

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effect once you start awakening everybody and helping them understand
what their abilities are and that there is no limitations.
You know, when they find out what they are, there's
no limitations. You focus on what you want and you
know everything you up until now you've manifested, and help
them understand that and how they did it. You know,
it's like, okay, this is what you can also do.

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You can reject things to people and and that's how
you help them under you know, understand. It's like this
is how you can help. You want to help because
you're seeing all these people in pain, Well this is
how you can do. You wake them up so they
understand that they don't have to be in pain. They
can heal themselves. And they don't, you know, they don't
have to have this kind of life because they think
they do because they're being mind controlled. You know, no,

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they don't. You wake them up because it's like no,
it's a completely different world. It's not what you think.
Wake up and this is how it can be. And
that's what's going on now. People are waking up.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Still seems grim.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's it's a process. When you it's it's like everybody
was in a coma and now you're waking them all
up and they're realizing what they are or they're being
mind controlled. They literally walking around like zombies or the matrix.
People walk around, have no idea. They're in this everyday life.
It's just a freaking you know every day. You know,
I'm like, okay, so I do every day, just same thing,

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not realizing that's really not your life, just what you
think it is, and it's really not. Once they break
out of that, they're going they wake up and this
is what it really is. Oh dang, yeah, now you
have control. Now how do you want to help?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
What if I just want to get rich?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Focus on what you want? Now what you don't want,
focusing on lack and you got it all right.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Now, I get that, but you know you just said
them when they wake up, it's like, here's how you
can help. But if I don't want to help, I
just want to get rich and you're stuck in human
Well that's not an answer, but okay.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Well I'm just saying, because if you wake up you
know that it's so easy. It's that it won't even
mean anything, eve any more money. You know, you will
know that you can manifest it and have anything you
want and you can be living a very prosperous life.
And you're finding out it's like, oh, that's that's how
easy it was, and like, yeah, that's how easy it
was because you kept thinking that you couldn't. When you

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stop thinking that you can't and finding out that you can,
and all it is is raising your vibration and staying
in that vibration and believing you can and then focusing
on what you want, and it just that's happened. It
happens within a half an hour. It's you letting go

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of misbeliefs or you know, things that you've been told.
You have to let go of all of that, and
once you do and find out what's how you really
can manifest things to have anything you want and have
any kind of life that you want, it's it's just
it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'm glad that you mentioned the whole half hour thing
because about two weeks ago, now, yeah, about about two
weeks ago, and I and I sent you a message
about this because I thought it was hilarious. H At
this point in time, or at that point in time,
I should say, I was still in delivering packages for UPS.

(27:29):
I'm now in a different division, uh making more money
and having a much easier job. And uh so at
this point in time, we're getting into peakcause everybody knows
and UPS allows helpers, people who you know obviously apply

(27:51):
to just run the packages while the driver sorts the
truck and drives. And I had a guy I never
met him before, and came into the truck and went
like within the first three minutes, he's already talking about

(28:13):
like how the former driver that he was with and
his girlfriend are both sagittarius. And I'm just like, really this,
We've barely gotten out of the parking lot and you're
already talking about astrology. Come on. But he told me
the story. He has won the lottery twice, and I

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mean not like the million dollar power balls and stuff
like that, but like scratch off, you know, thirty thousand dollars,
fifty thousand dollars, you know that type of stuff, And
he's went twice and I couldn't we can't believe it.
I'm surprised I just didn't drive off a bridge. But

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he was like, and he brought up the law of attraction,
and I'm like, no, no, I don't want to hear
this since that makes you right. And you know how
much I hate it.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
But you keep telling me how what you keep hearing
about all the stuff I tell you and ends up
being correct.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's why I hate it. I hate it as much.
But he had said, he goes, ah, I decided that
I was going to change my change my outlook, change everything.
And so he said every single day he would focus

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and he was like, I am a winner. I am
you know, I'm a good person. I'm a winner. But
you know, just that over and over and over and
over again, every single day. And he said he did
it for six months straight, every single day. Not your
half hour, but six months every single day. And I'm like,

(30:02):
I just can't do that. Like if I can do
it for a while, but if it doesn't work in
like two weeks, I'm out of here. And I give
him full kudos, and I'm impressed that he was able
to to not have anything happen to keep that up
for like six months. And then he won the lottery,
and then he kept it up again, and I think

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he said for like another six months, he's like, I'm
gonna win the lottery again. I ain't gonna win the
lottery again. And then he won the lottery again, but
he ends up riding shotgun in a package car with me.
So you know, obviously he stopped. But but it was

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amazing to me because I mean, honestly, he showed up
the first time I saw me, she drove into the
parking lot and the Porsche yeah, And I was like,
and I said to him, I can see why you
need the job. And he's like, oh no, He's like
it's all paid off. And I'm like what wait. And

(31:09):
that's you know, obviously what moved us into that, into
that story. But so I mean, what, what's the difference
between what he did that took him six months just
to do something like that, and you're just being like, yeah,
you can do it in a half hour.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
It's believing. It's changing a habit your mind. When you
control your mindset your mind controlling you. That's what happens.
He's breaking a habit to where he's controlling his mind
and believing when you believe it. So much and you
create it. That's what you're focusing your energy on. And
it doesn't take six months. It just took him six
months to break a habit of bad habits that he

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kept thinking that he couldn't have it, and then he
couldn't live that life. And once he broke that and believed,
like literally, you start, that's what they tell you. If
you're going to buy a new home, go house shopping,
or go little, or buy a car, go sit in
different cars. That's how you make it happen, you know,
And that's it's so he just kept focusing and for

(32:08):
six months seeing himself win the lottery and believing it
until he was actually like living it, and when he
lived it, it came true. That's all it takes. But
it's for you know, for some reason it took him
six months, which you don't is you know, when you start,
all you have to do is control your mind and
you can and having your mind believe this is how
it is, you're creating. You know, you're kind of like

(32:30):
creating your life, and so it's just believing. It's a belief.
But it's also you know, emotion has a lot to
do with it. So people they wonder why they keep
having lack. Well, they're focusing on lack because they keep
that's what they're creating. And when they're focusing your energy
on that, it's like watering a plant, and you keep
creating lack. But if you start, you know, the emotion,
then you have to start in the happy place. When
you're in a happy place, your mind's not in the

(32:51):
waiting where you're not talking to yourself out of it
and you're just enjoying it and you're going after you
have a drive and you're just excited and you're having fun.
That's always help people. Emotion is huge. So get back
into you're happy and then bring yourself in it reliving
all over again. And I'll bring it forward living like
you're living in it now, and I'll ask for what
you want. And that's how fast it happens, within a
half an hour literally. But you have to believe. Don't

(33:13):
believe you can't have it. When you start getting that
in your mind gets you when your mind getting the
way again shuts your mind off. Yes I can have it.
I am living it, and I do you know I
deserve it. I am enough, I am worthy believe it
and it happens. It just says so many people think
that they're not worthy and they're not enough, and that's
what shuts it off and it stops it just like that.

(33:35):
It starts like it's a growing, you know, like when
you're planting a seed. It is growing. But then when
you don't believe and he's like, no, I'm not worthy,
you on, you stop it, it stops. It's not going
to grow anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Just just drop a frying pan on it.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
We'll just stop here. You don't water yet, so can't grow.
So how can it come about if you're not going
to give it any energy anymore because you don't believe.
It's like, no, no, I don't think I can have that.
I don't believe I'm not I'm not enough. I don't deserve.
That stops immediately.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, I've never had that thought that I don't deserve it.
I never had that thought.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Other people feel if they they either don't deserve, not
enough or it can't be that they's just they can't exist.
That can't happen. Okay, it's not going to happen. Then
you know, our fears are worries that causes problems to
that your lower vibration. Again, wasn't that supposed to be
about aliens?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, we're going to go back to it. But that's
why I said we might go over because okay, we
always go But this is the part though, this is
part of the alien conversation. We're just not talking about
them directly.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Well, it's mind control, and that's also showing you because
it gets you out of your head, your mind. You know,
when when the aliens do the mind control, it gets
you thinking that you're living a different kind of life
and so you're not using your abilities. You know, your
ability to be psychic. Everybody's psychic, everybody's path. It's just
understanding what they're using. You know. Clar sentience reading energy.

(35:05):
Everybody doesn't just tell you that right now, you read
energy because you everybody has a trust issue at some
point that you know, so they read they literally will
scan somebody read their energy. Oh yep, they're not gonna
be harmful. Okay, that's that's psychic. Claricogniate knowing. You know,
I always say it wrong, but it's just annoying. But
listen how you talk. I knew that I felt that

(35:25):
a stability that you're using, you don't have to see pictures.
You don't have to hear things. There's seven different times
you know good psychic senses. But no, if you've been abused,
then a lot of them are will woken up. Then
you're very you're really like in tune. But some of us,
you know, don't have as heavy of alive, so they
still use you know, you know they have the clear sentience.

(35:48):
You know, they read energy, they scan people.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, does it take trauma to wake people up?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
If they've had it when they were a child, they
will shut it down. So then when is trauma when
they're older, it wakes it back up. It's a protection.
Your gifts are your protection. They literally can protect you
if you learn how to use them. Clacentians, you read people.
You can tell when you're in danger because you can't
feel it. I something didn't feel right, your six your
stomach YEP, I didn't feel right. The attention with your

(36:18):
sels is they're telling you immediately they're going to put
you on alert. Everything's energy. You're picking up an energy.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
M hm. So I'm going to have to veer off
into the other section that I want to talk about.
So since we live past president in future at the
same time, and it would seem like things are moving

(36:48):
and progressing in a certain way. Have we already lost?
I mean, I mean, I know that you're you're talking
about the New Earth and this Old Earth, and that
that's a split. That that that split seems to me

(37:08):
like we lost. No, we just kind of gave up
and we took the good over here and we forgot
about the bad.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
The bad was the one thing our statement. Or don't
want to move, they're an idle, or they just don't
want to wake up. Well, you stop giving them time
anymore if they don't want to wake up and get
out of the ego, get out of the power. And
that's all they want, their power hungry on there. You know,
it's all about you know, money and ego. Okay, you're
too stuck in your human and you don't want to

(37:38):
wake up, so we're gonna have just put you al
so you can't harm anybody else. Okay, you're on the
Old Earth, and you're gonna sit over there, and we're
going to you know, bring gether ones to the New
Earth and and and no you're not gonna you know,
if you're very gifted, you'll be able to see the
Old Earth. But otherwise, know, you will not the new people,
the people on the earth will not be able to
see the old Earth. It's like it doesn't even exist

(37:59):
once it's split. Unless you're very gifted you can see it.
Otherwise you'll not see a lot of people always ask me,
will we be able to see that?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
You just feel the change of the level of you know,
the frequencies. It's just gonna be a lighter It's not
gonna be so heavy because as you don't, I'll explain
it to it. So it felt really heavy around election time.
Everybody felt that I was gonna tell you, I don't
care who you are. You felt it was really heavy
and like this this almost sad, like you know, it

(38:30):
was just really really heavy. That's energy and that's the
world what the world was going through when election time
was and it also but the only kept saying, oh,
we're in a huge you know, the economy is going down,
you know, and so it was so the energy was
very heavy. That's what you feel, you know, it's a

(38:52):
lower vibration, and so that you're not going to have
that lower vibration, We're gonna have more of a lighter
vibration now that are going to the new Earth.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Mm hmm. Okay, all right, So I have one last
question before we transfer or into other dimensions, because we
have that aspect of things that we still have yet
to cover that are a part of this as well.
So starting with the good moving into the bad, do

(39:27):
you know what they're what the the goal of each
side actually is when it when it pertains to us
and and Earth.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
You talk about like the bad the negative.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Lord, Well both I want both sides like what the
people who are here to help us, what are they
helping us to? Like what is the end goal? And
evolve into what?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
And evolve into you know, it's not being stuck. We're
here to always grow, always evolve, and we and they
also want us to wake up so we can fend
you know, the the humans can fend for themselves and
not be vulnerable and be able to live united, you know,

(40:21):
live within each other, to help each other. It's so
broken up now and to keep trying to divide people
and so it doesn't you know, because they know united
we stand, Divided we fall. There's a reason that that
was said so many years ago, and that's because that's
what's you know, it's getting everybody back together and working
together and learning to live together to evolve. And that's

(40:47):
what it's. You know, it's like we need to all
come back and realize that we're all one. We want
everybody to win, to evolve, and so this is what
they you know, they want them to continue to grow
and not stump their growth or get them to know
and mind control where they're just like you know, they
want the other side wants to be controlling. They want
to control you. They want you to be a slave,

(41:09):
and the good does not. It's like no free will
and you know, and continue to evolve and good and
help each other, and you know it's what we're here
to just you know, to love you love each other
no matter what and continue to help each other evolve
and not be you know, like it's not one against
the other. It's like you're helping each other. You're helping

(41:30):
build each other up and continue and where the other
side just beats each other down. They're all for power
and they want to control and they want you to
you know, just to just be a slave. Seriously, like
walk on the zombie and being controlled.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Okay, So is that the other side's goal.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Then the other side just to control you. It's more
it's a it's a negative. It's a lower lower vibration.
You know where we'd rather be on a I've the
higher vibration versus the lower vibration. But it's just more
I get to say, it's more of a control. It
doesn't matter anyway I look at it. The other side
is more of a controlling and they don't want you

(42:13):
to evolve. They want you to They want to be
able to have chains on you and you know, and
pull you back and not let you go anywhere. And
it's just you know how they want it. And they want,
you know, to mine and take all the resources and

(42:34):
you know, deplete or blow your planet up. You know,
I had a lot of species out there that don't
even have a planet anymore because it was blown up.
So they've already been through that. So I come in
here to help. So that doesn't help, you know, happen here.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Okay, Now I have one last question, but I said
like four last questions ago. So there's a book out
there called The Secret War, which is pretty much about
everything that we are talking about here and in it,
and and when I first read it, I thought it

(43:14):
was ridiculous, a ridiculous notion that aliens were sabotaging us
from leaving the earth, like physically leaving the Earth. And
then I started seeing news reports where shit like that happens,

(43:39):
most notably, and this happened. Now it has been a
couple of years now, but like I literally sent the
message to Dave, like the article to Dave. I'm like,
look at this, like, is that not what they're just
talking on? And it was this long rain or this
very very powerful satellite that was being put into orbit.

(44:00):
I can't really remember right now what it was supposed
to do, but it was like the epitome is. I
think it was like a five billion dollar satellite. It
was unbelievable what this thing was supposed to do. Didn't
even get out of didn't even get out of our
atmosphere because like some fifty dollars part malfunctioned.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Yeah, I think that was Yeah, Musk did that one, right.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I think I think there's SpaceX. I think so, yeah.
I think I think he was the one putting it
up there. But I was just like, how does that
even happen? How does a five billion dollar satellite not
get into orbit? Because of a fifty dollars part.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
No, you're correct, they don't want us because it's so
chaotic on Earth. They don't want any of these these
beings to get on any other planets, so it's keeping
them here.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
But wouldn't so you could call it my last question anymore,
wouldn't it help us in the long run? Maybe not
right after, right at the start, because so many people
are are stuck on having these certain beliefs in certain
faiths and and stuff like that, and they want so

(45:23):
much to believe that we're the only people in the
entire universe. But wouldn't it help to know that we
are not alone, to know that there are different ways
of thinking about things that we there are ways in
which we can expand. As a mean, because it seems

(45:43):
to be like you're here to help us, but you're
you're doing it in the shadows, and instead of bringing
yourself out into for everybody that that's good, that is
here to help us, coming into the light and saying
it doesn't have to be this way and this is why,
and show us, I mean, we have have you have it?

Speaker 4 (46:06):
The ones the ones that have that we have. There's
enough that's been shown I mean, I'm not the only one.
There's many of us on this planet that have shown.
We show and we're not in the hiding. We're you know,
we're on shows, We're on you know, we're out there.
We put ourselves out there. It's just what the humans are,

(46:27):
the ones that are stuck in the human choose to
believe or.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I'm talking about going on CNN from the steps of
the White House with the President, and that's what I'm talking.
I'm talking. I'm not talking about going on a podcast
and and and being like this is the way it
should be, like we're doing right now.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
No, the government will literally shut you off. They control
they try to control it. They'll they'll shut us down.
They find out we're coming out there and we're going
to televise it, I'll shut you down.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Well, then you can't let them know. I mean, once
you start an idea, you can't stop. It doesn't matter
what the everman.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Is going to do. Oh, we still put ourselves out
I mean there's Dolores's Canon, ES's Hicks, Esther Hicks, Uh,
there is, There's tons of us out there and we're
out there. But just whatever the people will choose to believe.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well, Dolores's cannon isn't out there anymore, but she she.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Has followers, and your daughter is still her daughters still
wor you know, put stuff out there, but she still
has classes that she carried on her mother's legacy with
No there's I mean, and Esther Hicks still is you
know it just you still have people. It's just whatever
the humans will choose to take on or understand what's
really going on. They're just there's still that blinders on them.

(47:49):
They're not going to believe. And we're trying to show them.
Your world's being blown up, it's being controlled, you're being
mind control. There is movies, literally, the movie industry shows
you what's happening. Oh, that's just a movie. I'm like, no,
that's real. Why do you think we keep bringing up
the matrix? Why do you think we keep bringing up
being that this is all an illusion? It's no, Well
keep trying telling you this is real, this is what's

(48:11):
really going on, and we can help you. No, no, no,
that's not what's going on. Okay, they can't help you.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Then I don't like that answer, But that's okay because
that's just me. A lot of answers that I don't like.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
But no, it's just that because people don't believe you'll
tell you show them, you know them, but it happened.
We happen. That's why do you think there's so many
of us out and we show them this is what's
going on. Okay, you want to see close your eyes
and I'll walk you through it. And a sin you
see it and you're like, see you just for showing
Do you believe it?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
No? No, no, no, okay, I think I think you
more tell them as opposed to show them.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I showed them, I let them see it. I'm not
I'm not going to do it for them because they
have to see it for themselves, and so they will.
They'll see it in their dreams, but they'll know we'll
see it, you know, but they just don't know. They can't.
That's just a dream excuse. Always make up an excuse.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
All but see. That's why more drastic measures need to
be taken, because if people find reasons to explain it away,
then they are going to do it. But if you
put them in a position that they can't explain it away,
that's when people start thinking. That's when people start reaching

(49:35):
out that's when people start changing the way in which
they do think, in which they do believe.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
You're ready to hear it. You can be a seed.
I've learned a lot years ago. You can be you
can plant a seed. You know. Sometimes you're a teacher,
sometimes you're a seed. Plant that seed, and when they're ready,
when they're ready to hear it, and then you'll tell
them this is the way it really is. Why do
you think you're seeing this? Why do you think this
is happening with you? That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
That's one person.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
No one knows many. We don't have this one client.
We have many clients all.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
All I'm saying, though, is that things just need to
be on a grander scale than what they are.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Something don't say, Well, we put ourselves out there as
far as we can. We've got, you know, we've got
the big ones that people follow, Estra Hicks and the
Lower Laws Canon, and and there's several other I mean, James,
you know, I can't even take all of them. But
there's so many that Lila are out there. But do
people really want to hear it? We can't control with people,

(50:38):
don't you know? There's free will you know? And that's
it's just so we can't we can't shove it down
their throat. They're not going to listen, you know. It's
we do what we can.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yeah again, I don't I don't like that answer, but okay,
well we will get to it eventually, all right, So
let's move on because we've been talking about time, this universe,

(51:11):
other galaxies, whatnot. What that's not where it ends because now, well, man,
I should say now like this is a new thing,
but we also have beings from other dimensions that are
coming here, and what is their goal in doing so?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
To help as well? And again it is both it's
the exact same thing, the ones that you know aren't
another dimensions. Is it coming here for the exact same thing,
whether it's to control the humans, to take the resources,
or to help the exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
So okay, then then then here's a question for this
Why I get our universe because it's in the same
universe and for every universe out there or every dimension
out there, there is an earth just like ours, maybe

(52:17):
not just like ours, but I mean different in certain ways,
but there is one there. Why are people coming to ours?
Like what makes this universe and this earth so special.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Probably because there's got destroyed.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So the people who still have an Earth don't come
here because they don't need to. It's the ones that
don't have our Why why can't they go to those earths?

Speaker 4 (52:51):
It's just whatever when they open up. It's so if
you ever seen Doctors Strange where he goes to different
you know, in the beginning of the show.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
With Multiverse of Madness.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Yes, he's going through different dimensions. And what does she
saying there? She's looking for Doctor Strange in a different
dimension to help her, you know, because things have gotten
to so he's gotten destroyed in different dimensions. And well,
Earth can be the same way it was blowing up
it was, you know, it just it was the humans
got out of control, blow up the earth. What do

(53:22):
you think they're doing now? Keep coming up with more
and more things to blow the you know, blow themselves up,
blow up the earth, and it gets out of control.
And that's what happened. And so now they'll get out
and go to a different one.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
So when we inevitably blow up this Earth, we will
then be able to go to other earths and destroy
those two.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Why do you think it's dividing and that's not going
to happen because you're not They're not going to give
you any access to that on the old Earth. I'll
just tell you that there there, this is, this is
the end and they're done and so and what you
see on movies where you see half of a planet
of the Earth, you know it's broken away in the

(54:07):
science fiction movies. That's real. That's what's going to happen.
And then you've got the other Earth that's you know,
higher vibration, love and light. And yeah, it's just they're
not going to allow what I'm saying. They that's a galaxy.
You have a galaxy Council. They're not going to allow it.
They're just done. They're done with the science project in

(54:29):
this dimension now and in this dimension. Well there's the
galaxies in the other dimension too, but you get it's
just how much they're going to allow to happen in
those dimensions.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Okay, wait, so that would mean that for people, aliens
whatever you want to call them, to come to this dimension,
that that galaxy Council is saying. Okay, that's loud, and
our galaxy council can't be like no, stay out of
our dimension, Like why are they allowing this dimensional travel

(55:05):
if it's only going to make things worse, or they've
blown up their Earth, so now they're coming to blow
up oars, Like why is that? Why is this Galaxy Council,
which you know, I'm annoyed with, Why are they allowing
this to happen if they can control it?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
I feel that they're and I'm trying to say I'm sorry,
I'm sorry I was tony el because I want to
make sure that I'm talking right about the Galaxy Council,
and so I just want to see I there's actually
only one Galaxy Council up out of all these dimensions,
because I think I spoke before I actually tapped in,
but I think there's only one galaxy comp But what
I kept with what I'm getting is more of the

(55:47):
Council can also be manipulated. You have to remember there's
beings on this council, and so they can also be manipulated,
and so stuff might be you know, it could be
happening there as well.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Okay, now I'm more annoyed with them than ever. Okay,
I'll leave that alone for now. So Okay, I'm gonna
tell a story. I reminded you of this earlier because

(56:23):
I want more, I want more details on this. So
I have, obviously on the show multiple times when you've
been on it, harped and griped that I would like
you meeting with the Galaxy Council. And I have often

(56:43):
told of weird dreams that I have had, which are
I believe not dreams, obviously, but I'm asleep, so it's
just better to say that that it's a dream. And
what is it? Maybe a month ago now, ye, something
like that. A month ago, now, I had a dream

(57:06):
where I found myself in the presence of an alien
and the way that I said, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna describe it as best as I can to you,
to you guys, he looked not exactly, but the closest

(57:26):
thing that I could come up with. It looked like
the alien Reggie in Star Wars, the Clone Wars so
episode two, just kind of you know, like brownish gray
type thing, like really big kind of arms, you know,

(57:47):
like a I don't want to say his squid face
because that wasn't it. But just obviously, if you don't
know what that alien look like, obviously, look up at
Google maps, Google Google Google Images, and you will see
close to that, but not exactly. And I remember asking

(58:14):
a bunch of questions, not I can't remember exactly what
the questions were to him, well to him, they were
about him. I mean, that's what you told me. But
it felt very comfortable we were in Honestly, we were
in like a kitchen or diner type area.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Yeah, I mean, uh, making any cookies.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, he probably wasn't making any cookies, but we were
kind of in that type of uh establishment or environment.
And I could tell that he was angry with me,
or at least very annoyed, annoyed annoyed with me, yes,

(58:58):
And I know, I I know the longtime listeners are
going to find that hard to believe that even I
could annoy an alien, Trust me, I can, And uh
what threw me on? This is what I remember most
because I have a vague recollection of an extended conversation

(59:21):
with him as he was working on whatever he was
working on. But I can't remember exactly what his answers
were or what my questions were. And so finally it
seemed like we were coming to an end, and I
stopped and I was like, okay, and I could tell

(59:41):
he was angry with me or deeply annoyed, and I said, okay,
I might before I go, I just have a question
for you. And I said, are are Lauren and I
ever going to be together? And he was like, without
even has to, He's just a bitter alien at this point,

(01:00:02):
He's just like no, it just like screamed at me.
And I was like, okay, well I have one more.
I go were we ever supposed to be? And he
stopped and he kind of I think at that point
I realized like that, you know what he had just
answered me, and that he was trying to be thoughtful

(01:00:25):
and how he was going to answer my next question,
and he's and and so he paused for like three
or four seconds, and he goes, it's complicated, and then
he started to kind of walk away from me and
mumbling something about a deja vu machine, and then I
kind of I woke up shortly after that, and I

(01:00:49):
messaged you I told you about it. I was like
the vividness of this dream, the fact that I've never
had one like it seemed to me like it was
not an actual dream. But I want to I do
what I always do. I want confirmation, I want second
opinion on somebody who from somebody who would know. And

(01:01:11):
you had told me that it was not a dream,
that he was an oracle of some sort, and that
he was the one that pulled me to him, not
understanding how annoying I could be when I want answers. Yeah,

(01:01:33):
he knew I was going to ask questions, did not
know how forceful I would be. His fault, not mine.
And I still and that was it. I mean, that
was we were on text message and it really that
the conversation needed to have for that type of inexperience,

(01:01:56):
you can't really have over text. So I would like
to know, and this is for anybody who else has
has this type of inexperience. Maybe nobody has. I don't know.
Why did he pull me to him? What was what

(01:02:16):
was the point of it? And then didn't do it?
Didn't at least not as far as I know, didn't
give me that that that message, or didn't have that
conversation with me that he wanted to have. And what
the f is a deja vu machine?

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
He pulled you in because it's it's like you just
need to go right to the source, okay, like okay,
trying Yeah, yeah, yeah, the oracle. He went to the source,
and you needed to hear it from the source because
you just it's like constantly asking this and he's just like, fine,
come here, you what I'm gonna tell you? No done.

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And then he's like, oh, but that's why he when
you went, we were ever supposed to there's other dimensions
where you are together? And I got the deja vous machine.
I'm not I don't think he called it the right word,

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because deja vous is where you've seen it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, you figure you do something over that, you get
that thing that you've already done.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Exactly of different dimensions like dreams that you've had, or
dimensions those are actually take place. It's not just dreams.
They are actually you know, different parts of your life
can that are still taking place. And so he's just like, oh,
but another dimensions you are together.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I wasn't asking I was asking about me, right, but.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
You're asking, were we ever supposed to be together? Well,
he's like this specific this dimension or other dimensions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Oh, for crying out loud, what kind of oracle does
it know that answer already?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Well, that's why he went deja vu machine. It's like, oh,
because that's more of like dimensions. It's like there's different
versions of you and of her, and you do end
up you know, in a couple of you do end
up together. And on the matrix you saw when he
had you know, Neil was on all the monitors and

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he's like, yeah, you keep playing this out different ways,
but you always end up here. Well not in your case,
you don't always end up here. And so let's we
just trying to explain. It's like it's kind of makes
me speak about like a deja vu, but it's more
of you playing out your life over and over and
over again, but in different dimensions you actually do end
up together in a couple of them. So that's why

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he was talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
So what exactly is his.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Job so you actually could tell he can I mean,
you go to him to give advice or clarity like
a psychic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
He didn't give me advice.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
No, he gave you an answer that needed to be
like no, but more of the dimension that you're asking about. No,
because there's free will and in this lifetime, she just
she chooses not to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
And he had to bring me to another dimension just
to tell me that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Because you are always in your head.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
I'm always I'm still in my head it didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
And he's just like, get your butt here, I'm gonna
tell you straight out and stop asking. Okay. So and
that's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
And in all, in all this universe and into the
like the seven billion people on this planet and all
the dimensions where I'm sure the ones who still have
Earth still have a lot of people on him. He
brought me over to him just so he could be

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answer that one question, which in the grand scheme of
things is completely irrelevant.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
It was it was relevant to you, right, Okay, why?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Why am important?

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Well, it's just that it's everybody but or not. Everybody
sees the oracle differently.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
And I see him as a kitchen like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
But he she what alien. It shows up the way
that you feel the oracle is supposed to look like.
And so you're not the only one going being pulled
in by the oracle. It's just that he felt that
you needed to hear it straight from him because.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
It really didn't do much for me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Well, it's just like, okay, you're done. Okay, No, you're
not going to be together. This life got it and
because of the choices she's making it won't ever come
back right, No, Hey, And so he was just like,
if he's just gonna stop asking, just get him here,
because he's he's he's constantly answering questions of everybody. And

(01:07:23):
I know, I know, you keep asking what makes Aid
so special to be brought there? It was just he's
I was tired of hearing it over and over again,
the question.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And it's like, enough, well he's still here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah, it's like pull you in, like, get your butch here,
hang you straight to your face.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
He did. He didn't until I asked, I was going
to I was gonna walk out the door. And if
I didn't ask, I never would have gotten that answer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
He knew when you were there with it that you
were going to ask you what you were going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Apparently not, or he wouldn't have gotten so annoyed with me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Oh I just like I said, when when you're there
face to face doing it versus knowing you're going to
do it is two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
There's a there's a lot of great area there. That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Oh no, because people will say, yeah, I knew that
was coming, But then it's different.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Then from now on, the only question she's going to
hear from me, is can I come back?

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
It's like you're reliving your life all over and over again. Anyways,
we lived past, present future at the same time. So
you keep saying you don't like you know, you're not
happy about what's going on in this life, but you
want now you want to come back? All right, all yours?

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Oh I want to go back to him, come back.
I want to go back to him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Okay, clarify, Okay, oh yeah, yeah, you probably visited many times,
it's just the only time you remember.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Well, then it really doesn't do very much. If you
can't remember what the answer is, ever, then what is
the what is the point of having the conversation?

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
No, I don't know. You have been brought back to
him several times.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
No, No, I get that, but I don't but I
don't remember. So if he's trying to tell me something
like that and I don't remember, then it's a pretty
like worthless span of time, Like it's a worthless trip
unless you remember the lessons trying to be taught, or
remember the answers in which you're told to your questions.

(01:09:24):
Because if I wake up thinking I never got the
answer to any of these questions. I'm just gonna keep
asking them. So what point is it to bring anybody,
not just me, anybody to see him or anybody else,
and then not have them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Remember because in your subconscious you're going to remember. No,
it is you choosing not to remember.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Now I'm irritated.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
You don't like my answer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Your answer doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
But your mind work sitting a very it's you will
remember what you feel is important. When you tell your
mind that it's important, it's going to remember it. It's always.
So I'm just gonna tell you this is all the
mind works. When you tell your mind that this is important.
Like when you buy a car. Also, you're telling your
mind that this car is important. Now you're seeing your

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car on the road all over the place, a lot
of people are driving, which you didn't before because now
you're telling your mind it's important. It's the exact same thing.
So when you're going to an oracle and you know
whether this time another time, you don't remember because you're
telling your mind that that wasn't important. So that's why
you're not going to remember it. That's how the mind works.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I don't know if I agree with that. Or not.
That's okay, look it up. It's is he the only oracle? No,
so I could annoy other oracles? Yeah, why do you

(01:11:11):
say that? So meekly? You're like you have, Oh I have?
Well that's important to me, So I should remember.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
If you if you're if you told your mind that
it is important, then you will remember again. To you
when you go in and you see things, that's like,
I want to know all the answers, but that's okay whatever.
And to you you guys told your mind it's not important,
you won't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
That doesn't sound like me at all. But either way,
all right, So I'm going to end this with with
with with with one question or that before I know
this is the Minnesota question. Oh so it's gonna keep going. Okay,

(01:12:00):
how do we as a species on this earth? Where
do we go from here?

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Continue to be open minded and evolve. Don't think that
you can't do anything, that you're just a single being.
We're all connected, so everybody's important, and so it's very
important that you continue to servey. You're all here for

(01:12:33):
a purpose, and so and people always say, oh, what's
my purpose? Well you have to awaken and start using
your abilities and it will be revealed. But it's all
to you know, because we're all here to help each
other and evolve. You came here to live a human experience.
This is a human experience that you signed up for

(01:12:54):
at the Kasher Records and so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Live it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Just know that it's a human experience. Don't don't get
caught up in your human That's what happens when you're
in this human experience. You think that you're human now
and you forget what you really are, and so then
you're you know, you get caught in it, so you
don't end up enjoying it because you forget that it's
just that you're signed up for this experience and it's

(01:13:20):
like you don't have to you have this experience. But
it depends on how good of experience that you want it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Do you want it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
I mean, you've got so many different you'll come to
fork in the road and there's so many ways to go,
and you actually have a lot of control, you control,
you know, you manifest what you want. It doesn't have
to be a you know, we sign up for this lesson,
these experiences, but it doesn't have to be a hard lesson.
Doesn't have to be a bad experience. It's what you choose,
you know, and open up and believe in yourself, and

(01:13:48):
you work on your work on yourself a lot. You know,
we've we've come here with a lot of karma. This
this lifetime is a lot of karma. Just remember, just
a lesson karma. Let it work, work itself out, and
continue the evolve. Remember you're not human. You are a
highly spiritual being living on a human experience, So continue
to evolve.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
I'm always evolving and you're right now. I have another
question I forgot to ask earlier. So we have good aliens,
we have bad aliens. We have interdimensional aliens, and they
all seem to be looking like us. So how do

(01:14:37):
you tell who is what like? How do you is
there a way to tell if you are talking to
an interdimensional alien or if you are talking to a reptilian,
or you're talking to a highly spiritual being that you
know isn't introducing herself like you do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
We all have specific characteristics. I have very light eyes,
so people they find me through my eyes normally because
I am a light worker, you know, as a highly
spiritual being, and because of my eyes, it is you know,
that's you look for a lot of that. It's the eyes,
it's certain features. But when you're reading energy, you can
also tell by their energy what they are. I can

(01:15:22):
read people when I'm doing healings on them. It will
show up. I was like, oh, you're alien, and they
look at me like, well, that's not the first one
I've heard that. And so they all show them true selves.
And don't think it's true you're seeing things. They end
up showing the true selves a lot of time. When
you're just you know, reading energy, doing energy, you'll see them,
you know, just don't don't think that you're in your

(01:15:42):
head and it was you know, you're like, oh, I
must have been imagining that. They end up showing the
true selves at one time or another.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Okay, so that's you again. I get that one. If
I'm talking to a reptilian, is it is it always
the eyes?

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Like I said, sometimes they'll show themselves, but other times
it's just reading energy, reading their energy. It's a different energy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
So there's no like physical characteristics that people could I
have seen.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
So depending on what aliens they are, sometimes they have
longer fingers. They actually like it's terrestrial, almost looking even
in the human form, they look terrestrial, and that's how
I've been able to, you know, some of their features
I can identify. It's like, ooh, I know you are.
I'm gonna have to tap in because they little show.

(01:16:36):
You know, some do walk around and shaved heads, you know,
because they that's what they they come from with that species.
And so you're starting to see you when you're looking
at them, and it's like, well, they look terrestrial, and
it's like, well, they probably are, you know, even in
a human form, it's hard to hide what they are.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
I have never actually said that, like, oh, you look
alien to me, Like I've never Oh I have, I
don't you have?

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Yeah, But it's just it's specific features. But I'm just
it's more of how they act to a lot of
them are mechanical. That's how you can really tell they're
not fluent in a lot of the way they walk
or something's very mechanical. That's usually how you can tell too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
M I see that a lot of ups, But that's
just because all of our muscles are Sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
They don't have sword muscles, you see that. It's more
of it's like a mechanical movement versus a flow. You know,
when somebody's walking flow. It's more of a mechanical move. Yeah,
it's it's definitely noticeable.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
So anybody who's really good at the robot yeah, might
be good. Okay, well what about interdimensional because that that's
gotta be a little weirder. H.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
The way they talk a lot of like the interdimensional
are highly highly intelligent beings, and that's what they'll come
into professions that are very like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
What you say, Like what you're saying is I could
be interdimensional? H. Continue with your answer.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Like Neon Musk, you know, these are people that we
know that are definitely terrestrial, highly intelligent. Nicholas Tesla. You know,
they're they're way beyond their time and they're in it's
just their minds are just mine. They really are like
completely out there. Yeah, that's how you know those are trustrial.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Yeah, I could see Elon Musk being being an alien.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Yes, M well yeah, some of their tell legends is
off the charts. And usually when it's like that, you know,
you know their higher spiritual beings.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Yeah. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say he's one of those.
But anyway, and so I had this question pop in
my head. We were talking about how they look. Are
doppel gangers interdimensional beings that come in at the wrong
time in the wrong place.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Doppel Gangers, which gotta be careful for Sometimes they're they're
here to take out the other other one of them.
It depends some of them come in to destroy the
other one. Gosh, I haven't When I see doppel gamers,
it's usually not a good thing, right when we get that, Okay,

(01:19:53):
so choose me to take out the other.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
So it's kind of like jet Lee's the one. M
hm hm. So if I were to go to another
dimension and kill the other me, would I get like
more powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
If you absorb the energy? You know, energy is huge.
I mean we're the human body itself is a is
a battery, and so a lot of them do it
with energy. I'm not going to say soul source. It's
just the energy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
So it's like Highlander kind of like that. Yeah, So
they don't need to cut the head off of the
other guy. I just I just need to make sure
he stops breathing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Once you you defeat that one, you're taking their energy source.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
There could be the only one. Well, then I have
my work cut out for me. How do I get
in touch with the Galaxy Council to ensure my my
doorway to other dimensions.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
We will never to the energy. You will never forget
to that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Other people seem to be able to do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
I mean, I don't necessarily need to like go and
meet I just you know, a letter from them granting
me access to I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Because you want to be on the on the board
to make decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Nope, no, no, no, no, no, well yes, but I
mean that that's not what uh I think a human
should be on the council if we're talking about human stuff.
But you know, not here.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
All I want access is to other dimensions, which they
seem to be able to grant access to so I
can kill few other means and become more powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
And you wonder why you're not going to be on
the council.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Nope, I would change my goals if I was on
the council. I'm not on the council, so I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
You know, they're listening to you, I know, and they
know that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Joking, so settled out. I would never kill other mes. Well,
I would kill one other me, but that's because of
his relationship status. Just one though, Uh, just one that's
all I would need anyways. Is there anything that you

(01:22:27):
think that I forgot?

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
There is a ying and ying. So people, when we
talk about universes, there's an opposite of you living in
the different too, because we have to have balance. Yeah,
so what's going on in another mention is an opposite
of you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
There's a skinny, good looking me out there. Kind of dumb,
not funny though, so you know, give and take. I'm
sorry for interrupting.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Go ahead, No, that's not I'm gonna say you because
some people, you know, but that's also because you're talking
about double gangers, and I'm gonna tell you, an opposite
of you is also playing part of to have balance
because we have to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Have balance, gotcha, Well, we don't have to have balance,
but it's important in the universe. It's very important. I'm
a big fan of symmetry, right, But I'm just saying,
if we could tilt the tilt the skills our way,
I'd be okay with that, you know, like seventy five

(01:23:27):
twenty five good. I think that's pretty balanced. All right, Well,
went a little long the girl that I thought, But
that's okay. I hope everybody got some answers to their

(01:23:47):
alien questions out there if not seen as available, and
where can they Where can they contact you?

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Go on my website, Insightful Soul, or they can email
me readings by Sena at gmail dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Excellent, Well Sina, thank you once again. Thank you for
not only confusing me and irritating me all the more.
That's my job, I know, and you are exceptional at
your job.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Thank you, Thank you. I'm here all night, and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
I do mean that as a compliment. I know, I'm
amay sound like I'm trying to insult you in being start.
You are very good at what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
That's which is why I continue to have you on
the show and why I continue to, you know, get
my confirmations of things that I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
I just happened agains from a higher source. I'm just
a channel, so it's more, you know, spirit guid it's
a universe giving me answers. I'm just a channel.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
So yes, I need to have that conversation with my
spirit guides and it's important. So I'm going to remember
this time good anyways, all right, So Dave should be
back next week. Yes, Happy birthday to Dave. I do
think we have two more shows this year, and we

(01:25:10):
are setting up a bunch of a bunch of great
shows to welcome in the new year. So stay tuned
for that. But we will be back, hopefully maybe finally
with our crop circle show, which Dave has been looking
for his research for like a month.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
You should talk to me about.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
That another time, perhaps, No, I say.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
You wants to have information, you should talk to me
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Well, we can go right back into the show if
you want. Be like, okay, well we're talking about any
let's talk about crop circles.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Well, we can't have it with Dave though. That's his
you know, obviously that's something he's researching, so we gotta
let him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Okay, all right, Well then I would.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Never want to do that too. That's his stuff, that's
his stuff, but he.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Can't find it, so he can you can't find it.
That's why I said he's been looking at for his
damn research for like a month, although I don't I
think he's probably spent thirty seconds actually looking.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
For it on crop circles.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
On crop circles, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Seriously, state I don't know that's alien. I know that's alien, Okay,
And all it is is if aliens work with vibration,
and that's how they control their their saucers and stuff.
It's also crop circles. That's how it's left on there,
is from their their ships, right. But they're also symbols,

(01:26:36):
so when they're not, I mean they read things from
the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Right, I know. That's that's what our show would be about,
and that's what his research was show. So one I'll
throw out there to him that hopefully he can find
it by next week and maybe we'll have you back.
They have a crop circle show, okay, and our die
and only the second I will probably be the mail bag,
which which you don't have to obviously be there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
For, right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
All right, Well, there we go, people, something to look
forward to. And as always, if you want to uh
send in your paranormal story or question to David myself.
I can go on to our website Odyssey Fouls Radio
at dot com. You can email me uh Odyssey Fouls

(01:27:28):
Radio at gmail dot com. Uh yeah, and please remember
to like and subscribe because we don't make any money
off this. It'd be great if we did so, so
like and share. I feel weird just saying that, but
uh Sina, thank you for coming on, Thank you for
I appreciate it. And no matter how sarcastic and annoyed

(01:27:51):
I get with you, it's entertaining and I'm sure that
I'm not alone in that, in that feeling, but yeah,
I appreciate it regardless. Yeah, Dave and I and maybe
even seeing it will be back next week, so stay healthy,

(01:28:13):
stay safe, want to see you back here. Everyone, have
a good night.