Episode 325 - Psychic Smorgasbord! - The Odyssey Files Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean, good morning, paranormal community, and thank you for

(01:24):
joining Sena and myself here on this wonderful Sunday morning.
I'm I'm your host, Michael Oonial.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hey, guys, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Because Dave has taken so many days off recently, I
have decided to upgrade seen his position here on the
show from from guest co hosts to just co host.
So in the summary of the show that that I

(01:57):
put together, it's someone going to be like Sena Diysman
joins Mike for this episode, and it's gonna be Mike
and Sina. So just the same as it. This is
Mike and Dave, you know, whenever whenever Dave is on,
because apparently you're now sharing the co hosting responsibilities. But
glad to have you here. Thank you for doing this

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on such short notice.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for asking me.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And for those of you who are longtime listeners, you
maybe wondering why my voice sounds so soft, and that
is because over the last like week or so, in
order to test out the trailer that I've been talking about,

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I've been putting on our shows and testing the speakers
in the soundbar and everything that you know, with our episodes,
and I have to apologize to everybody because I had
no idea. I was so loud and I know it's

(03:02):
the microphone, because the microphone is right here and it's
a really really nice microphone, and but I was just
like so loud, and I don't need to be that way. Meanwhile,
you know, Dave sounds like perfect, he's got this microphone.
You know this is the regular microphone hanging down or whatever,

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and I'm like, I really need to stop that.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, don't you go back to listen to your show
so you couldn't hear that?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Or why would I listen to the shows when I'm
the one that like because the show?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
But this is how you you you look at it
and see if there's any flaws or something that you
need to improve.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Excuse me flaws? Don't you're forgetting what you're talking to here?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, just all right, all right, rewind rewind there's.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
No flaws in the show, and if there is, we
apologize immediately because it's an instant understanding. I don't have
to go back act and be like, oh I did
that wrong. No, that doesn't happen, although going over the
audio for it, I did notice again that the audio

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has a commercial and stuff in the beginning. Not we
don't do that, so sorry about that annoyance. But apparently
the web network wants to put monetize our show. And
from what I've seen, like they have i think like
twelve different shows on their network. We're like the only

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one that has put out an episode in like a year.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I'm just like we are the network.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Sign me up. I'll come on.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I already told you that you'd be able to. But
see you actually have to put out a show, not
create episodes and then leave him on your computer.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, porn taken.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Get out of your humans, Sina.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I know. Fear it is. It's a huge fear factor.
It is the worst it is.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, see, when you do this for seven years, you
stop worrying about, you know, putting in quality. It's either
a natural gift or you just do this for yourself.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So well, I've been told several times it's like you
need to get out there because people need to have
this information. Don't care what you look like or what
you sell like. People need to hear this information. So
I was doing good for a while. Yeah, and then
if I were instantly done.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, see, I think what you need to do then
is you need to put out audio and not video
if you're worried about like your hair and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh I'm not worried about that, but.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You kidding me. You're terrified of that because you're in
your human, Sina, You're in your human.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I don't care anymore. I was like, come on here,
I told me for you. You guys need me. I'm
just gonna throw it up in a bun and I'm
gonna come on here.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'm like, hey, that's right, but this is our show,
not yours. So that just means that you don't care
about our show. You really care about yours.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I have never seen me in a bun or a
ponytail or anything.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I haven't with you, I have not. Okay anyways, so
enough about mocking your inability to put out any information whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
My goal this week at least put you out and
I'm gonna send it to you.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, talk to you in a week when I'm like, worthy,
where are you putting them out? You're like, oh, got
busy or whatever? Head washed my hair.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, I'm gonna hold you to that. Everybody. Everybody's listening.
They heard you.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Guys are my commability partners?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yep it okay, all right, I'm gonna hold I'm gonna
ho ld you do it. Okay, So put up, put up,
put out your stuff, put up a shut up?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
A second thing that I wanted to uh talk about
that I have been or talked to everybody about, not you,
but you already know what I'm talking about. I've been
talking about it for weeks about my team's is new
mobile command center. And I've said many many times before

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that it's supposed to be done and it hasn't and
I'm going to show it to the team, and then
I couldn't. Uh, but I finally have Uh. It is
like ninety There's a couple more things that need to
be done. It's not done, but it was presentable. And
even then there were some issues just with the generator

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and not even with the generator itself, but just getting
that airflow and getting around at CO two sensor and
stuff like that that was really killing everything that I
was trying to do. But I got showed to you.
I got showed to the tea and even though I'm
still planning on it. I don't know if I'll get

(08:19):
to do it. Planning on creating a video video tour
to post here on the show, so people who watched
the watch the video port video, not portion, but the alive. No,
not the live because it would go out and people
would be able to watch it afterwards anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right, but you put on a live yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I haven't gotten that far yet seen it. What wait,
excuse me, settle down, let me let me explain this.
I see people who watched the video version of the
show would be able to see it, but if you
don't want to for that, Yes, we did a live,

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a six minute live because I was worried about the
generator quitting again out have been embarrassing, but was able
to do a live on honestly Paranormal Society facebook page.
If you want to go and check that out, you
will see me give everybody a tour of a quick

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tour of what it looks like. And I would have liked,
I honestly would have liked to show everybody like how
clear the audio is and show people the fifty five
inch touch screen that I have and throw out some
cameras around so you know, when instead of like the

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blank black screens of the the DVR system, you would
be able to see, you know, the cameras and everything.
But all in all, everything has been most things have
been positive. I did get just I couldn't even believe

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the aholicness. I know that's not an actual word, but
I'm making it up because that just seems to be
the proper phrasing here. One of my former investigators decided
to chime in last night. I'm the live and even
though the only person I would even know that it

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was there is a former investigator, but it took issue
with the fact that I had taken the team photo
from all the years, you know, of the last ten
years of the team and had posted it. And he
took issue with the fact that his photo was on

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the wall and I was broadcasting it, even even though
a it was never even mentioned who the teams people
were and there's video was so far away. The only
people that could recognize the photos the ones that are
in it, right, And I'm just like, dude, what are

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you due.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm just trying to get on this, trying to get
on your nerve. That's just gotta let it go.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Pretty much, and I almost I almost wrote back, just
thanks for watching, because you literally had to watch like
at least five minutes into you know, four or five
minutes into the into the thing in order to even
know what you were looking at. I just like, you know,
that's just my homage to the people who made the

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team what it is.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's funny. He's going to tell the other other team
members and they're gonna watch it, so you're gonna get
downloads the way that comes out, and they're going to
want to see it. Now.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, that's fine. If they that they want to take
issue with me, they can take issue with you.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
No, I'm just saying you're gonna get more viewers because
of that, because people are going to be downloaded to one.
I wanted to see that because he keeps passing the
word on that hey he did that, so now they're
going to want to see it.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, well good. But you know, I made the live
not to be you know, quote unquote popular. I made
the live because I wanted people to know that, you know,
we're equipped, you know, to help people, you know, and
and I'm hoping that turns into something like that's the
main the main goal of spending the obscene amount of

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money that I did to make this trailer.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It is because it's going to be if the word's
going to get out and other teams are going to
find out and go, what what has he got? And
they're going to download because they want to see this.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
So it's been shot because because it is amazing. Uh, Jason,
who did let me see if I can get the
name right, because it got it wrong during the live
and he corrected me a helping hand, handyman, I'll see
who did you know, ninety percent of the work and
then corrected the eight percent that my cousin did. Uh,

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and then and then two percent that I did. But
just putting in the putting in the final touches, stuff
like that. But uh, when people asked me, I had
a couple people asked me, it's like you did this.
I'm like, you say the stupidest things like I would

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never in a million years be able to do any
of that, especially the wiring. I probably just be dead
on the floor electrocuting myself. But anyway, trailer trailer is
pretty much done. Just a couple nitpicks here again, if
you guys want to go see what it looks like. Now, uh,

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honestly paranormal Society on Facebook and I'm going to try
to get it up on our Instagram. But I think
I I know that face spooking Instagram or connected. I
just don't know how to bake that bridge. So if anything,
it'll be the other video that I make sport. But anyway,
we have. We have some really really interesting letters and

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mail today. That one I will admit does come from
Reddit because I'm just looking over some stuff and it
was kind of I get one of those emails every
night that was like this one story and it was
really interesting and it's something that I remembered and with

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you coming on, I really want your take on it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
But with that said, here we have. Yeah, it's proud
to present the mail bag. Okay, well I should probably
have these up.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, considering read the first one.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes, all right, there you go.
Papa Legba visited me last night. So last night Papa
Legba appeared in my dream. He wasn't coming for me, though,
he was coming for someone else, for Brekface, for prefists whatever.
I have no connection to voodoo or Haitian descent that

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I am aware of. I'm probably predominantly Scandinavian. In my dream,
we were in almost like a basement panic room type
of thing with a very large Rottweiler named Duke. I've
never had a rottweiler or a dog named Duke. I digress.
Papa Legbob was trying to get in, and I remember
coming face to face with him, and he just smiled

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at me and waved. I felt like he had no
malice towards me, but he was not there for me,
and Duke was fiercely protecting us at this huge iron door.
When Papa leg was smiled waved and got very close
to my face though this window thing, through this window thing.
I wasn't scared, but I wasn't comfortable either, But I

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knew he wasn't there for me. I just don't understand
what the hell it means. As I said, I have
zero connection to Voodoo or Haitian culture, so I have
no idea why you would dream of Papa Legba. I
don't have any idea either. I My question is, if
you have no connection to the Voodo or Haitian color,

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how did you know it was Papa Legba? Like? Does
he does he have a name tag? I'm like, I
know who Papa leg, but is he's one of the
people who's connected with like the Crossroad and you know,
it's one of like the Crossroad demons. But ultimately isn't
He isn't evil. You know, he's not there to take

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your soul or harm you or or whatever. So I mean,
I guess I'm kind of going to turn this over
to you because there's a lot in this that I'm
sure is symbolic, like the rottweiler, because you and I
have had lots of If you dream about an animal,
it's absolutely a message. It can't just be there. It's

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absolutely always a message. So and I've never dreamed of
a rottweiler, nor have I come across any stories of
people who have. So it's interesting. And I would assume
with the fierceness and the aggression that rottweilers are typically
known for, that this it has some sort of symbolic

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protectiveness to it, which is why obviously the rottweiler was
protecting them. And this iron iron gate, which again is symbolic,
I think in itself because iron dispels is supposedly supposed
to dispel spirits and stuff like that, and also can
be used for protection. So this whole thing and I'm

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with this, I'm with this person who wrote this, like,
I don't know what this all means. I don't know
how you knew everything that you knew, Like again, it
was Papa you know it was Papa Legba, or that
you knew that he wasn't there for the person who
wrote this in why is the rot whiler guarding this
thing from Papa Legba? Like who's on the other side?

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Like this, this to me has so many different connotations
to it. I can't even begin to try to explain
it from a non psychic standpoint. So I just want
to turn this one over to you so you can
you can tell me and this person what this dream

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is supposedly supposed to be about.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, For one, depends on what the person was watching
prior to that. A lot of times when people are
watching movies and stuff like that, it comes into their dreams,
and so there's a lot of like, well, you know,
what was going on prior to this, what were they thinking?
The route wiler? Will you just stump right into that one.
The rotte Wiler is their their means, what they feel

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is protection. So it's going to come into the dreams
as a rock wiler dog protection specific species. If you
look in a book that we refer to quite a
bit is called Animals Speak, and that you can look
up your spirit animals and what things mean. Spirit animals,
total animals two different things. We'll just moveet that in
another time. But spirit animals is what this is going

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to be referring to. And again, if Animals Speaks, you
can go under that and look underdogs. It'll talk about
different species. You can get into that in Google more
if you can. But anyways, it's what they the person
that's writing this is that what they're seeing is protection,
is a rock wiler and that's why it's there, and
that that's their protection. Spirit animals come out from within

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to protect when you see them. That's it's not just
any animal dream. It's what you know and it doesn't
mean anything. No, it's going to mean something depending on
what you're going For example, movie before you know we're
going to go to sleep, it's going to come through
in your dreams. That's probably how they know what this
Papa is is probably a movie and probably watched it

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right prior to that or within the week and so
it's going to come into their dreams. But cross roads,
cross roads, you know, being that that comes to a
cross where there's it's decision making, but they need to
be careful of the decision it's and it's also kind
of the message that they're in this dream is what
your back. It may not be there for you. This
person's not there for you, but you've got some evil

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around you. Be careful. And that's what this is probably signifying.
And this one here with this one, this this person
that's they have to be watching out for. This Papa
thing is therefore is also in a decision making and
but can be a very negative impact. And so that's

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why this person is not there for them. But it's
kind of a warning, like careful because this person is
not and you know, in good faith right now it's
always be careful for this person because he's done a
decision making rule and depending on which which way he
takes can be a problem for them. So it's just
kind of a warning for whoever had this dream. At

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the end, you watch out use and the person i
think even knows that when it's having this dream knows
about this person. But it came through and in the dream,
like you really know, you really need to watch your
back because it is a very a highly negative thing, Penny. Again,
depending on the decisions but they make.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Do you do you think then, since you were talking about, uh,
how they were watching, you know, they might have watched something,
you know, the previous night or or within the week.
So then the entity that showed up in the dream
is Papa Legba isn't actually Papa Legba but more less

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persons imagination and representation of him.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Again depending on if they did see this. But I'm
just saying that this this is a warning for this
person to be watch out for somebody that can be
very hurtful towards them, depending on his decision.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Didn't answer my question, Seina.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yes and no again, depending on if the person did
see it. Again, a lot of times when people are
watching movies, it does come into their dreams and it
doesn't mean anything. It's more a worry on their part.
It's a worry.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
So he So the character in the dream of Papa
Legba is more symbolic brought on by this person's own
imagination and not the actual Papa Legba.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right. The worries, yep, The worries that that person has
about certain people.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Fear.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's more not worries, I would say, fear, not worry.
It's actually a fear of certain people.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you ever dream of Papa leg Bud when you
talk about your podcast?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, serious.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Whatsoever? But no, it just depends on I mean, there's
a lot of things that could be taking place, but
I do see. I mean, I'm being told and they,
my spirit guys in a higher source, is just telling
me that there are certain things that are happening with
this person. And this is how it just came about
in the dream. There's a lot of fears that are
coming through, but they are protected. They shouldn't. Just have
to be careful, watch your back.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Fair enough, all right, move on to Stone up at two.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Take it away, Okay. An entity saved my life. So
this happened three years ago when I was fifteen. I
was walking home after seeing my friends, and I stopped
for a minute to grab my phone out of my bag.
Everything was normal until I heard a female voice in
my head telling me run I was more concerned about
the I suddenly heard a voice in my head. Two

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seconds later, I heard it again. But this time, it's
like she's screaming. Run such it had such an impact
that it was like something pushed me. I started running
like mad. Then reality kicked in and I stopped running
and thought, why am I hearing this? I look behind me,
and I kid you not. That's when a car crashed

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exactly where I was standing. From what it looked like,
I would have had my legs crushed into the wall.
I don't know who the entity was or was, or
what it is. I believe maybe it was a family member,
as she had my accent. When we hear things like this,

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it can be our higher self, especially if it had
the accent. We don't always recognize our higher self voice.
And also your spirit guys will talk to you and
that's definitely there there to protect you. People think, oh,
that was my guardian angel. No, your guyian angel is
gonna actually push you or put something in your head
get you to It's like a feeling that you just

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have to listen to and you just do it. This
was actually a voice that was twice. I'm going to
say it's her higher self him or he's or her
high yourself that was getting them to move like now,
because they will come in your high yourself will come
in to warn you. Also, your spirit guys will come
in and warn you. If you're in a life and death situation,
they will literally push you out of it and tell

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you if you want to listen to it. But with
you're hearing you twice, yeah, you may better listen to it.
It's not an entity. It's a part of you or
your your teachers, your spirit GUIDs, they're going to be
that's what's going to help you through life.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, so I've Dave and I have thought maybe even
you and I have talked about this on the show before,
because I still have this this question that still has
not been answered to my satisfaction, which means it has
been answered at all. And as an investigator, we go

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into all these places and we ask all kinds of
questions and we get no answers, or if we do,
it's very very seldom or rare where you can pick
it out or they just actually answer the question that
you asked. I've said many times, whether in private or

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during the show, probably even during presentations, like I can't
get names to save my life. Nobody will tell me
their name. Ever, I've asked different variations of it. I
took your advice and started asking, you know, what was
your name in your previous you know, in this previous
life associated with can't get any to save my life?

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And I mean there's theories out there that says that
spirits have like a non ah, that they can't interact
with us, they can't give us these answers. But yet
their story after story after story of people who hear
these voices run stop. Uh, you know, just very clear

(27:22):
in their head they've never had any sort of paranormal experience.
Yet you know, blos are blows around and they do it,
they say and they and they get saved. So what
is the requirement, Like what has to happen for the
other side to interact with us? Like why do they

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save our lives Monday, you know, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, but
they don't do anything Tuesday and Friday or you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think there's certain times in your life that you
might have a choice to leave, but these are choices.
These are around the times that are not a choice,
and they need to keep you alive because there's there's reasons,
there's purposes we're here, there's reasons why we're here. Lessons purpose.
We have to. We are We're all a puzzle piece

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to different lives. We're all connected and people don't realize
how much we're connected. So if we're taken out of
the equation, that could change drastically for somebody else. So
we all have we're all connected in some way that
we're here for certain people, certain lives, you know, and
so we have to play our part so they will
come in and make sure that we stay alive. And

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we're not even damn we can't even be injured because
it would drastically change and I'll come.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So this is kind of like Final Destination in reverse.
So instead of us surviving and then the universe trying
to kill us because we should be dead as in
Final Destination, the universe is now trying to kill us
and we should be alive, and so we're we're saved.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
The universe isn't trying to kill us. They're helping us.
They're the ones that put those spirit eyes in place
to make sure that we stay alive.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I don't know. I definitely have evidence that says the
universe is a non merciful beach.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
You're just mad because they won't bring you up to
the council, so you can talk to them.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Apparently, I just need to talk through my show because
they're big fans. Yeah, thank you for listening. By the way,
you ever want to come out, Do you ever want
to come in for an interview, let me know. I'm
sure seeing them will be more than happy to channel.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Ori.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, if you can't do it out of any other way. Anyways,
It's actually interesting because and I think that I've I've
asked I have. I can't remember exactly what show I
was a while ago, but I've often had the the theory,

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the thought, the mentality that you know, each tree branch,
if you want to call it, you know, each thing
is leaning towards something, and if you took something out
of it, obviously things that I mean, we're talking about
the butterfly fact pretty much. I mean, if one thing changes,
but is that written into it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
There's no such thing as a butterfly.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Fact, I use. I'm just using that as an example.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Anyways, there's a reason, right, we're all connected, whether you
know it or not, we're all connected. And if I'm
in your life, there's a reason I'm in your life,
and it's to help you with something or we're all
connected for a reason, and we're all pieces of the puzzle,
so we have to play our part.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Imagine what has to go into each person's life in
order to get them to that one like five second interaction.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
What do you think you get thoughts in your head to, Oh,
I should do this. I was thinking about doing this,
but I think I'm gonna do this today. There's a
reason that things come into your head or you change
what you're going to do to make sure that you
stay on track of the path that we're supposed to follow.
So we interact with people or have something happen, because
if we don't, it's just like the car accident. You know,
we can avoid that because that's going to put us

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off on a timing that we need to meet somebody
else or something else else to happen.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I understand, I get that. So there you go. Something
that didn't pull over my head. I can wrap my
head or that.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
If everybody had watched Fringe, it's a movie series, it
can explain a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I've seen Fringe, and I don't think it explained any
of that.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh it does. You'd be so probed. Then you missed
that part because I can. I'll find the episode off
air and talk to you about it, because yes, it is,
because I I'm actually remembering a lot of what I'm
talking about. It is being I'm really reminded of it now.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
They had an absolutely terrible storyline where one of the
lead characters, you know, quote unquote, got erased, and yet
everything was still the way. It was like they weren't
even important even though they were. Is that what you're
referring to.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Oh, okay, Hi, fine, find that episode. I like Fringe
at least the first like three seasons, and then it
got crappy. But that's just my own, my own review
of it. Okay, So I really don't plan on adding

(32:49):
much of that story that you just read. I just
wanted to hear. It's why I gave it to you,
because I just wanted to hear what you thought. That
voice wasn't talk to you about the whole How can
they interact with our lives? And when can't they? Because
you see a lot of these stories, but yet the
same person two years down the road might break their

(33:11):
arm doing something dumb and nobody saved them.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
That No, because it's not going to alter or anything.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
So we're allowed to hurt and suffer and be in
pain as long as the universe storyline isn't corrupted.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
It all depends on the lessons you're signing up for others,
because again, we interact, so yeah, it just it doesn't
pull you off your path and affect anybody else's. You can, Yeah,
can you get hurt as long as you're continuing on
your path. But it's also something for you to learn
from you getting hurt, you learn from something from that.
That's also a lesson because so even though you know,

(33:48):
we didn't get killed, we got hurt, So there's something
to learn by that. Parm Uncle. I'll also tell you
there's also playing the part in those.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, Karme is terrible. I did something terrible in my
past life.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
We all did.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yes, yes, I'm sure, all right, all right, So this
next one, this is the one that I found on
as I was reading Reddit, and I thought it was
such an amazing question and then one of the stories
in the comments was really really good. That that goes

(34:35):
with it, because this is something that I think Dave
and I need to dive more into because honestly, thinking
back to like all the all the paranormal shows, all
of the you know everything, like all of them, you
never ever and if I'm wrong, correct me. Obviously I

(34:57):
haven't seen every episode of every show, so maybe there's
but I've never seen like a Muslim client. I've never
seen like a non Christian Catholic type client that calls
people in for help, and I've never had one. And

(35:22):
so here's the question. And it doesn't deal with so
much with hauntings or anything, but the question that was
posed was did you ever have a near death experience
where you saw any non Christian God? So I'm assuming
they're obviously talking about like Krishna and you know that,

(35:43):
that sort of thing, And it's a great and it
was a great, great question. Well I wish was written in.
But uh so here's the story that somebody shared though,
which which follows all the thing. And I thought, of
all the near death experiences that I've either seen on

(36:04):
TV or read, this is very unique and I want
to get your take, not only on the question itself,
but this story. So here's the one that the somebody
wrote in. This isn't my experience, it's my partners, she
told me in detail, and I'll pass it on to you.

(36:26):
Just so you know, my partner had terrible asthma growing up.
She grew up in the US, but her family was
very non religious. She caught pneumonia at age six and
suffocated in her bed. She remembers choking and then being
above her body and watching her mom scream over her
body and the paramedics arrive and whip out their gear bags.

(36:47):
She felt very calm. She passed through the ceiling and
kept going higher very fast, until she was in space
looking at the entire planet. She says, seeing such a
beautiful sight was very emotional moving, and she felt calm
and complete. She sensed this immense vibration and was suddenly

(37:08):
in another place. She was at the base of what
she thought was a mountain and a vast plane, but
she realized it was a stepped pyramid, much like the
man or Incan style, with stairs leading to the top.
But this was immense, the size of a mountain and
perfectly sculpted. She said, it looked like it was somehow infinite.

(37:31):
The entire plane was filled with intense vibration with a low,
loud humming. A vast bean made entirely of light appeared
from a door that opened in the pyramid and slowly
approached her. It touched her, and she was suddenly slammed
back into her body. She shit, pissed, and vomited all
the same time. It's somewhat common. Upon resuscitation a couple

(37:58):
near death experienced researchers came to talk to her about
what she saw. A few days later, she was dead
for about five or six minutes. This would have been
around nineteen eighty or so, so I mean a long
time ago. But that's a unique story that I've never
heard anybody tell. Obviously, tons of you know, floated through

(38:18):
the ceiling, maybe even the space thing, but the pyramid,
the low hum this entity that like touched her and
she slammed back into her body. That seems pretty uh,
direct and specific. So let's start with the question itself.
You know, it is there such a different because I

(38:41):
know I've talked to Scott about this.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And like.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Catholic God as we call him, obviously a lot of
investigators call it the source. I've started to but like alla,
same entity, just different name.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
But when you if that's the case, and I honestly
agree that it is, because I'm knowing what you're going
to say about that aspect of things. But how does
that tie in to how people not only interact with
the paranormal or neared of experiences in this case, But uh,

(39:23):
is it a religious thing on how they interact with
supernaturals and stuff like that?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Religious, But it's also what their true selves are, you know,
their their their highest spiritual self go through different It
is a lot about belief. But the other part of
it is because they get so stuck on they're human
and so they think that's what they're supposed to go through.
But the other one is knowing what your true self

(39:50):
is if you're you know, your higher spiritual spiritual being.
This is a lot of true I mean about vibration
is about exactly what you're going through, exactly you're going
through portholes and you're taking you back to you know
your your source and you see your source as you know,
the pyramids literally are all vibration. They are frequency general.
You know, it's just people realize what the pyramids actually

(40:12):
really are. And so when you talk about that, that's
actually like the permited triangle, that there's actually a pyramid
underwater that's creating all of that and the so it's
it's actually true, which they just said, that's yeah, it's
but answer your question. Yeah, it's your belief, it's but
what you you know, Playdian start star seed, you know,

(40:36):
it's that's how you are going to go through death experiences,
near death experiences, because we're all different species.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Different species. So would somebody of the Buddhist faith if
they had a near death experience, would would would they
even have in your death experience?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Or depending what they are, if they know what they
are and let go of the humans again, they keep
a lot of them just hold on to this human
experience and believe that they're supposed to go through So
a lot of them just keep you know, it's still
on their head because they're still half here, half in
and half out, so so believing that that's how they're
when they're going through death, that's how they're supposed to

(41:23):
go through it. But when you know what you really
are and you come to terms about oh, I'm a
highly spiritual being and you know, awakened and know, that's
when you start literally going through the right you know,
vibrations to get to the Maker Creator, and that's how
it actually is. So you're going back home.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, So I have a question that I think I
know the answer to, but I want to see if
I'm right. There is only I'll just use the word
god just for maybe, let's just use a source whatever.
There is only one source. The reason that we have

(42:09):
so many gods, but that in air quotes for people
listening in audio is our own different way of perceiving
it or or being of being able to understand it.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, universe. So but yes, there's one specific creator that
we've come from. We have a god level that we're
from and that I need.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Is there a cheat code? Because I really love god mode,
But you have to do like up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right,
you know, ab start.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
It's just what you are is getting out of your
human people are soul stuck in they're human and think
that we are crazy when we talk about anything other
than And when you finally literally like whether it's meditating,
whether it's focusing, and you literally clear your mind and
really start awaken and realize what you are, you're like,
holy crap, I'm definitely not from here, and this is

(43:18):
starting to make sense what people are talking about. But
then all of a sudden, when you're meditating or your
dense experience. You tap back into home, literally tap picked
back into home. And then there's God level, and that's
where we came from. That's the source we come from.
So but answer your question, though, God, there's different gods

(43:42):
in different what people believe in, different galaxies, and so
we've got like Zeus and you know it's Greek gods,
you know, So there's different gods that you know, people
are that believe in, but it's to a human level,
and then it's to you know, a galaxy level. So
there's but then there is the ultimate god level.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I do love ultimate God level. Okay, well, then let's
move into the story itself that was told. So is
that a normal I guess you could say type of experience.

(44:28):
I know, obviously the leading to the ceilia, but the
whole pyramid, the low vibration humming, which I know frequency
and vibration is one of the topics you want to
talk about in the second hour. So I thought that
was a great lead in if we get to our
fourth story or not, I don't really care, but so,

(44:51):
I mean, is that how it should look because I
know a lot of people have had the whole like
they're flying through space, or they're up in the clouds,
they're up in space and the voice comes down like
this is the first one I've heard of of an
actual like infinite high, you know, pyramid with with you know,
the vibration and the hum and stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Again, it just depends on how far you are advanced.
So when you say norm, it just depends on where
you are, where you are spiritually, where you are on
a human level, and your belief system.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
It often works, Okay, So our spiritual development over the
course of our lives, like all of our lives, not
just this one that dictates what you see if you
have a near death experience.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Because you're still stuck again, you're half in, half out
of a human. So if you're a human still kind
of controlling what you think is reality, which is not
all an illusion, then that's what you're still going to
part of that journey is going to be through that
yet because you're still breaking through the human to get
to what you really are.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Okay, So if you and I were to have a
near death experience at the same time, you would see
the pyramid and I would like see a mud puddle.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Pretty much. You might go through a porthole and it
would be the light. You'd see a light because your
belief is you will when you get to the light,
which is passing over. That's where your the doorway where
your mom and your dad are going to meet you,
you know, And so that's your belief where mine is like, no,
I'm going back to my I'm going back home. I'm

(46:41):
shedding this neat suit and I'm out of here. I
don't need any reality check of you know, what human is.
I've been here enough times to know and I don't
need to go through all those experiences to get back home.
So see, but it's there's there's again different species, and

(47:02):
so we all have different places that we've come from
or different galaxies, different i mean completely different realms that
we've come from, and so where we are from is
different places we're all is there so many of us
that species that are not from the same place.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
So now you're talking more like the volunteers and stuff
like that. Okay, So if I'm from Earth, which I'm
not apparently because I'm not human, but so when I

(47:40):
have a near death experience, I would see something from
where I'm from in quote as opposed to what a
human like an actual human non spiritual being what would
see or experience and then you would experience something from

(48:02):
whatever place you're from. I see, okay, did everybody get that?
Take a few minutes and swallow that. So, but it
is the low loud humming, and like the vibration, is

(48:24):
that like the force quote unquote.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Force no, which is going through different dimensions.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Different dimensions, yeah, hmm, okay, I'm not even gonna bring
that up.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
You're going through different levels as you're passing, you're going
through different levels going back home. And so the low
humming though, would they explained it was because like you know,
when people talk about that, it's identification of different species
is different vibrations, right, okay, And so that's their home vibration.

(49:02):
But it's differ going through portholes to get home. But
that's why they felt. I think they saw that, it
felt it and see vibration that was suddenly at another place.
She was at the base of the phone. Yeah, a
lot of those I know in I've experienced a lot
of this, like in the mountain and humming and those

(49:22):
are in human level. Actually was a actual place and
it was a port, a port formed spaceships to come
in actually, and it was in Arizona, and it was
a humming, it was a vibration, it was a it
was a warping. Actually it was it was like and
it was a little like hum warping. And that was
actually a space station for in spacecrafts.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Mm hmm. Okay, I'm gonna let that sit too.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, that's alien, That's why I said. So it depends
on what species they are, So that's aliens. By way,
they're going back home.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I understand. Okay, all right, well I don't do you
have anything else you want to add to this? I
guess I don't. I said, this is something I think

(50:19):
that needs to be tackled more thoroughly, this topic, because
that is something that I don't think a lot of
people realize. It's like if you go over like all
of Ghost Hunters episodes, like everybody's white, you know, like
why you know, probably Christian family, they get crosses the guy.

(50:44):
You don't seem any agnostic people who just don't believe
at all. And but the thing is is that they
can still have experiences, and I think they typically do.
They just process it differently.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, So now if you go over to different religions,
now let them talk about their nearest near that experiences
is going to be completely different.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I don't doubt it. I had a I had a
climb in years ago. She's still on my Facebook friends list,
although I don't talk to her as much as I should,
just see how everything is going. But she posted off
where I really don't have to. But my team and

(51:37):
I investigated her house. She wasn't really experiencing anything extreme.
It's just stuff that was making everybody uncomfortable. You know,
they didn't know what was going on. And so your
ancient investigation, Well, like a week or so before we
were going to investigate it, she messaged me and she
asked me she wanted to talk to me about something

(51:59):
because she was raised, and I believe, a Protestant religious
type household, and she was raised to believe that there's
no such thing as ghosts or spirits and that everything
is a demon trying to trick you. And I've heard
this many times throughout the years, that that type of mentality,

(52:20):
and so obviously she was worried because they were experiencing
paranormal stopple. If there's no such thing as ghosts, she's
got a demon in her house and and that wasn't
the reason for her messaging me, Like she wasn't like
freaked the hell because she had a demon in her house.
She was like, it's hard for she wanted to talk
to me because it was hard for her to let

(52:42):
that go and to think that that was wrong, not wrong,
but like incorrect. Where there are such things as ghosts,
So I mean, how do you So that's to your point,
is different religious had different takes, and that obviously didn't
change anything. She didn't have a demon in her house.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
A lot of people any negative it is an entity
of demons, Yeah, go ahead, but yeah, a lot of
them do well.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
It doesn't even have to be negative. I mean you
asked Dave, there's no such thing as child spirits. So
if there's a little girl trying to get your attention,
obviously that's probably an evil spirit trying to trick you
into something, because there's no thing as kids spirits. And
that's Dave's take. He's talked about it many, many times
on the show. So it's not like I'm saying anything

(53:36):
that people don't already know. And there's nothing wrong with
believing that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
But I mean, that's stuck in the human that's their
human because they won't get out of the way that
it's a mind control. That is again mind control, that
is something that's programmed into them. So that's why they
think that, and they won't step outside of the box
to see it, to be opened up to investigate or
research to see that there is a you know, that

(54:02):
that they're they're ringcorrect, but they were taught was wrong.
So they have blinders on and they don't want to believe.
And it's like, well, if you really want to know
the truth, here, I'll show you. Close your eyes, I'll
bring you there. I'll show you what you know. You
can go through me and you can see what's really
going on. I mean I had in your investigation a
little girl showed up right away, right up my side.

(54:22):
I'm like, well hello, you know, you know she followed
me through the investigation there, so you know, end up
sitting on my lap and then in the bathroom, you know,
so like, no, they're all over. You know, if they
it's whoever they're attracted to, they'll show up by it,
you know, dead would. I had tons of them in
Deadwood when I was there at the hotel there. I mean,
it just depends on the person and if they're open

(54:43):
to it, they see their abilities, you know, then they
can see them and they can feel them. They have
to pay attention to their abilities. Everybody's a psychic, everybody's
a medium. Pay attention to your abilities. You will feel
what is there. It's a different vibration level and you
can feel if it's a negative or positive.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Fair Enough, the investigation was success, by the way, But
I mean I was just kind of using that as
an example to your point that they're you know, how
people are raised to believe of what the paranormal is.
So I mean, I'm not an expert on this. Scott

(55:23):
would be more of an expert on this, But I mean,
are are there just religions or beliefs out there beyond
agnostic because they're just you know, they don't believe in anything,
which is which is fine, but you know where the
supernatural just does not exist.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Because they don't believe in life after death.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Well then how can I if there's no such thing
as life after death and I know that's a debate
in and of itself.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Or even reincarnation. A lot of them don't believe in
reincarnation whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
So I get that but how can you believe in
anything religious if you don't think there's anything after death?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Because again it's brainwashing. This is this is stuff that
they have been programmed, and so if you tell them enough,
they're going to believe it. And that's exactly what they did.
They knew how to program people or you know, earthlings,
and that's what they did. Sorry. The healing race is
very easy to manipulate and they know that. That's why

(56:28):
they're mind controlled. They are the easiest easies to mind control.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
If we if we all wore aluminum hats.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
With that stop, No, it's a belief system.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Well, if I believed that my aluminum hat would keep
me from my like aluminum foil hat would keep me
from being mind controlled, would.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That do it? If you're served belief system. Yeah, but
it's more left just instead of aluminum hat, just put
put around a you know, your protection bubble. It's exactly.
Think about everything's frequency, energy, frequency, vibration. So it's whatever
you believe in is what you create. You created aluminum
because you believe in that frequency, So you created an
aluminum hat.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, I think after the show, I'm gonna ligne the
inside of my hat with it just and then it
will just kiss the entities off, being like, why isn't
this working?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
No, no, you call him out instead of believing, instead
of blocking yourself look at him going no, you can't
do that, and you call.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's just a joke, Sina.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
You know I don't have a sense of humor. You
pointed that out yesterday when we had dinner. Remember a
serious one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember the one that has
sense of humor. I have no sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Now, yeah, you have no sense of humor. Cameron, who
used to have no sense of humor now has like
five percent.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Logic.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's why it is all right. Well, I
think we hammered that to the bone, especially since it's
halfway through the show and you you have some stuff
that you want to talk, so I still have my
my uh, good job. The stuff here that what.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
He's pointing out is a chart that I was downloaded. Yes,
I could download a lot from a higher source. And
he's pointing out chart that I made of frequencies.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
So yeah, well, and Dave and I did this show,
but you wanted to go a little further because obviously
this was just Dave and I doing doing the show
with your your research, not with you specifically, but but
but you uh, you wanted to Yeah, that still hasn't happened. Sorry,

(58:57):
I was doing your uh your mantraus stuff of writing
stuff down when I wanted to have happened, and yeah
it's still it still.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Had So it's a belief system. If you don't, if
you have any doubt whatsoever, and you're not going to
align with that, then it's not going to happen. It's
just like when you're doing a clearing on somebody or
a healing. If they're not going to believe that it's
going to work, it's not going to work. So with
any doubt whatsoever, you literally just sabotaged it.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
It's a hell of a loophole, it is.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
But again it's being in alignment. You have to be
in alignment with things for things to happen.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's what I view for you align my chakras.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yep, yep, when you come over and let me work
on your.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Which has happened a very very very long time. Right,
might might be time, but we'll see, all right, So
the floor is yours. It is another another volume of
psychics where you talk about whatever you want to and

(01:00:08):
I know frequency was one of the things that was
on your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yes, there's so many things going on right now because
people are getting sick, glue, cose, it's called covid. Well, okay,
but that's government. Okay, this is government. Things that are happening.
People don't realize it, but it's all frequencies. Things are
all happening because they're you know, again, trying to control population, sterilization, zombies.

(01:00:37):
There are so many things that have actors and songs
and movies that have tried to warn the humans about
this stuff. But they say, oh, it's a movie, it's
just a song, it's just you know, no things on
the internet. No, you guys need to start paying attention
because a lot of people are getting sick and they
don't know why. We know, we just had this what

(01:00:57):
people thought it was the flu or covid again. No,
you're being contaminated again. And this is air. This is
air now, and this is from the government. We need
to really start paying attention because it's it's the I
send a bunch of stuff to you and you're like, oh,
that's all on you know Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, yeah, you tell me two links this morning of
videos off of Instagram, and my response like, well, bits
on Instagram. It's obviously true and well researched, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
If the people the reason I sent it to you
is because there's certain things that are on there. Talks
about somebody who's actually specializes a lot of these fields
and brings up legit facts on several things on several
different levels. And I might be able to put you know,
the attachment on here, but it's on Instagram. It came
up and it was a woman who was very specialized

(01:01:52):
in the health field and really through it at this
wherever she was, she was actually stating a case and
through through the government under the bus big time and
actually told them where everything came from. It was very interesting,
but very like, okay, people, this is why like corn,

(01:02:14):
stay away from corn flour anything, you know. It's just
that stuff is very toxic to the human system. What
I'm getting at is actually is get back to all
natural food please. Everything else is toxified. What the government
is doing is toxifying your system so you cannot use

(01:02:37):
your abilities. It's literally killing you. It's killing your meat suit,
so you cannot function, and so you need to start
getting back to natural things. I know it tastes good
and its allum, but it's killing you. It's killing you
if you do not go organic organic, but really read
into it something to say it's it's organic, and yes
it's expensive, but you know what, you're not going to

(01:02:59):
die because this is what they're doing. They're killing you.
They're killing you by putting stuff in the food. All
the pesticides. Round up, round up is one of them.
Is the worst culprit who is bought by Bear Bear, Yes,
that is your that's the company that is killing everybody.
And the government's giving them an okay to do it.

(01:03:20):
And so there's and there's a lot more to it.
Just really start doing your research because round out, roundabout
is that that's your pesticide, and all this stuff is
killing it's actually staying in there. There's no way of
getting rid of it because it's in the soil and
it's starting to kill. It's it's now starting to make
a huge problem all over because it's taken a toll

(01:03:41):
at different levels completely and people need to really start
getting educated on this and know what's going on. Why
are they getting why is so many more people getting
sick and they're having problems eating food because the food
itself is toxic. Our bodies are at a different level
when you're at a spiritual level, your vibrations at that

(01:04:05):
level that you know what's healthy for your body and
if it's gonna and when it reacts to a bad way,
you know that that's whatever you're inpaking. It's not equal
to the vibration that you need for your body. So
it's telling you that it's toxic because you need all
natural food. If you're wondering why you get sick from
certain foods because your body's telling you that that's not
the right kind of food that you need for your body,

(01:04:26):
or it's toxic, there's stuff toxics in that Pay attention.
All our bodies are have a specific vibration that we
vibrate too, but we need the food to feed that.
So start researching. Get away from corns, Get away from
anything that's been has pesticides, or farms that you know
that have used pesticides for any of their crops. Do

(01:04:49):
not use I don't eat breads. I don't you know breads.
I don't even meade. Corns. That stuff you need to
stay away from because that is that is toxified medicines. Also,
you know different you know, the the weather when it's
being changed. That's that's why you're controlled by the government again, frequencies.

(01:05:11):
So if you guys are wondering why you're getting sick
all of a sudden, or you're you know, lactose tolerant
or like Scott, can't you eat breads? I believe you
know it's one of an on the team. And that's
because it's the toxics that he that's that's in there.
His body's telling him that he can't have that because
the body knows it's a toxic. You know, it's a
poison to the body. And they need to start people

(01:05:34):
pay attention to what your body's telling you. You know
you need it is Yes, again, it is expensive, but
you will survive. You're you know, if you want the
human population to continue and your children to survive, you
need to start changing how you eat. It has to
be all natural.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
See, that's why I stick to like chips and dip
and like Skittles, gummies and stuff like that, because there's
no toxins in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
There, complete oxen it's like plastic.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, my body is saying, yeah, we love this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
They make it taste good. That's what they want you
to do because when you when you keep eating, your
body craze it because that's what your body is used to.
But you need to detox your system because it's not healthy.
Sugars are and salts. You know it's not it's not
healthy unless it's natural coming from natural fruits and vegetables.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
So mountain dew with sugar cane, that's that's good for me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Sugar cane, No, that is not sugar cane.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
It says it's one sugar cake pure pure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Oh no, there's a lot more on that can besides
sugar cane that's not one d percent there. Well, artificial
flavors and artificial.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
No, there's so much. But seriously, people please start doing
do research. There's a reason why you've got people keep
pushing to do natural things now because you know they're
they're finding out that their body is reacting and rejecting
the stuff that's not good for them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Right, But so so far, the conversation started about frequency
and moved into the government is trying to kill you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It's all frequencies, it's all related.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
So the government trying to kill me as frequencies.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, cause they change, they change the atmosphere. Is all
the machines that they use is all frequency machines to
change the environment. Change what you've got, whether that changes
dramatically in hours minutes, that's government, that's government controlled.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
That's Minnesota, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah, Texas had it too. Yeah, and I got the wildfires. No.
I went in Taiwan on what was going on with
the wildfires this morning. That kind of kicked me off,
and I'm like, Okay, what's going on? And I had
to talk with some of our little nature people there
because there's something going on that I had to clear
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
So who are your nature people there?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Oh, there's people. There's certain creatures that are actually fire
people that are the fire. I call them fire creatures.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Elementals, yeah, elementals.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
And they got pissed. They were pissed. But I had
to explain to them that they were just killing humans.
They're pissed off at humans, and but I told them,
it's like, you don't realize you're not just killing humans.
You have friends that you just killed. You know, there's nature.
You've got animals, you have fairies. You know, there's people
that things that live in nature that that's her home

(01:08:49):
and you just killed them, and so I had to
set them down and have them mourn. You know, they're
ones that have passed and you know what they what
they real they were after what happened. And so it
was a reality check for them too, because they weren't
you know, when they get madgics like humans, they're just
going to act out understanding that you're affecting more than
just which you know, what happened to you. You've had

(01:09:09):
a lot of other things, and so with a reality
for them, it's like, you need to stop now because
now you have killed different species that you didn't have
a vendetta against, and you know, because you were after
humans because of something they had done. So let's mourn
the original you know what, you what your loss, but
we need to also more than the ones that you

(01:09:29):
have just killed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
That's right, you don't mess with humans.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, it's on a different level. People don't realize there's
other things out there that are in nature and around
us all the time, and we have to find out why, why, what?
Why is that going on? What's and yeah, so it happened.
It was at a their level that I had to
talk to them about unfortunately. But but back to it's frequencies. Yeah,

(01:10:01):
it's just like Nicholas Tesla huge. I mean you guys,
if you don't know, Nicholas Tesla is the founder of
half of our electronics, but not the three fourths of it.
This is where it all came from. And he's it's huge.
He takes you back to frequencies or which she means.

(01:10:25):
Even in music, though I'm going to actually talk to
you about music. People love their music, but they wonder
why there's some music. Then when they're listening to it,
they get angry and some of it's okay. The frequency
in music, there's always a frequencies in that. That's how
music has come about. A lot of our music that
is broadcasted now is under a four hundred and forty

(01:10:47):
hertz frequency, which is an irritation frequency. It's a maddening frequency,
and that's what the government does to get people to
it because they want us to divide. They don't want
us to come together and work together united. And the
original frequency that was used for music is four hundred
and forty four hertz. That's what it's supposed to be at,

(01:11:11):
and that what was taken away, and so it's there's
a lot of problems because of the frequency in music
is causing a lot of havoc and anger. It's just frequencies.
Is everything energy frequency vibration. Everything is energy frequency vibration.

(01:11:34):
Nothing is solid. It's the vibration that is vibrating at
that we think it's solid. But it's not the only reason.
You know, people think it's solid because we can't put
our hand through it. Well, it's because we're vibrating at
a different frequency than this object that we're looking at,
or you know, we can't put our hand through it
because we're not vibrating at the same frequency. That is,
it's the only reason we think it's a solid. Nothing

(01:11:56):
is solid. Everything is vibrating, has a different frequency that
is vibrating at. But it's also going to affect us music, weather, food,
So you guys need to pay attention more to frequency.
But it also can help us heal ourselves. When you're outside,

(01:12:18):
it's important to be outside. Grounding mats has been coming
to my attention a lot, and people have been asking
me about it. I don't believe in grounding mats because
you need to be out in nature. You have to
have being human. You have to have all the elements
you have to have. You know, to feed your meat suit,
you need to have the frequency from the sun, the air,

(01:12:41):
the ground especially you know, when you're grounding, it is
so important to be outside and actually ground without shoes.
The government got you wearing shoes to separate you to
be grounded. Your body is a battery. It has to
be plugged in or out of whack. Your bottery that
your battery. Your your body is out of whack. It's

(01:13:02):
getting sick because you're not grounding and you're not bringing
it back into alignment. Take your ehoes off and get
outside and ground. I know it's cold, but you need
to be in the dirt. It's a grounding that will
literally bring your body back into alignment and it'll heal itself.
Your entire body can heal itself. You're cutting its to
off from earth, so it can't heal anymore. Because what

(01:13:24):
do you do when you when you unplug a circuit
and you don't plug it back in, it can't recharge,
And that's exactly what you do into your body, so
it can't recharge and it can't rebuild itself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I have a question, sure, what in the blue hell
is a grounding mat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
It's a mat that people use that they literally there's
a probe that they either plug into their electric socket
or sometimes they have it run from the outside. It's
a probe that they put in and it's connected to
a natural mat and it's a grounding mat that's use
and it's but people some of them use it, put
it on their bed, put it with a step on

(01:14:05):
underneath their desk, and it actually is supposed to be
grounding to the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
I'm sorry, I think my brain just added seizure. What
so let me get so, let me get districts. There's
like a mat, yes, and people plug it into the wall. Yeah,
and then they lay it on their bed. Yeah. And
supposedly that's supposed to connect them to the ground outside.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
And anything that's collected to electricity is not good. No,
go go outside, get your butt outside and go ground.
I know there's people that are disabled, but they still
need the nutrients from the elements outside. Get them outside,
get them connected, bring dirt over. If you have to
bring plasts that have dirt in it, bring them. They
need to connect to earth because that is the connection

(01:14:56):
that they need to their body. They are disconnected from
the circuit, so they cannot recharge and rebuild itself.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
I am, yeah, go and google it there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yes, there's tons of them people that they said Amazon,
there's a Yeah, there's all of them. Say oh, it's
natural in which you need, and it's all plugged into
different things. But yeah, it's all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
It's just a mat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Mm hmm, the grounding mat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Oh look you plug it into your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Uh what what?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
This is like something I would put outside my shower
to dry off on. It's just a mat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's called the grounding mat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Do you plug into the wall? Mm hmm?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
What? Yeah, No, that's not good for you. You need
to be outside. This is this is what they keep
putting onto people, saying, oh, this is what you should have,
and instead of getting them outside where they really need
to be. They need to have a connection to Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Five stars with seven hundred and two reviews. Okay, I'm up.
Until right now. I wasn't actually on your side with
the whole mind control manipulation thing. Ah, but seeing that,
I think we deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
That's why I said a lot of things that people
have no idea. There's so many things out there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Bring Bring on the new Earth. It's time for all
of us to die.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, that's happening now, Oh already.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
It's just a damn mat. It's like literally just a mat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yes, yep. And they have them for a bed, They
for all different beds.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
And you're not even outside. No, you're not even on
the ground. You're laid on your bed. You're not even
on the ground, right, m.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Yeah, mm hmm. And then there's frequency beds. You know,
there's beds. There's frequencies that they put through a bed
that actually come through a bed that they use.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I'm getting dizzy. Oh my, oh my god, i gonna
need okay, continue time, I need a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Okay, all right. So a lot of the cancers also
be But again, people if they're just off there, they're
imbalanced because of frequency and toxic foods, you know, toxins
that have been causing the problem. But again, connect back
to nature. Yes, it's cold, put your coat on, put
your feet on the ground. Scoop away the snow and

(01:17:57):
get on dirt. You need to connect. And it doesn't
even have Okay, I'm gonna tell you to Your hands
and your feet are identical. So you can put your
hands on the ground, but keep both hands on the
ground and connect. Just breathe. This is the other thing
people don't do. Breathe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I think it's safe to say they're they're as sensitive
as each other, but they're not identical.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
You have the same nerves and your feet that you
do your hands.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
It's sensitivity. But my hands and my feet look completely different.
They're not identical.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Okay, so your nerves okay, let me phrase that, your nerves.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
I'm sorry, but my entire sense of reality has been
has been completely shattered. Let's get some things perfectly clear.
Your hands and feet are not identical.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Your nerve ending your nerves and your hands and your feet. Okay,
so you can ground feet hands, I prefer your feet.
But the government again has come in between and said, oh,
you should wear shoes because they protect you. No, they
Don't's actually the opposite, because they're cutting you off from
your protection.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Well ground, I have a band aid on the bottom
of my foot because I stepped on some glass while barefoot.
If I had been wearing shoes, that wouldn't have happened.
So shoes would have protected me from cutting my foot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Then wear leather shoes that are not don't wear any
rubber wor things that have that are conduit with the
earth naturals. Yes, nothing rubber, nothing that can cut you
off on the floor from earth. Okay, but you see that,
so you see why kids. You kids love to go barefoot.
That's why they keep having taken their shoes off. You

(01:19:37):
wonder why they do that because they know what's good
for them. They like dirt, they do, but that's what's
grounding them. They know they need that. The healthiest child
would be the one that's out playing in the dirt.
You'll find that they don't. They rarely get sick. They're
very happy, very in tune.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
They tell me that I need to do that, and
I almost never get sick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
You were outside all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, I'm talking about now, Like you tell me that
I have to like take my shoes off and I
need to go on ground and be in nature, which
I still have not done ever, and I hardly ever
get sick. So again I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
That's your belief system as well. Though you don't feel
like you can get sick, you just don't allow that in.
Whatever you allow in and you believe in is what's
going to come in. If you don't believe in it,
you can't can't come in. M hmm, interesting, it's all
that's why said, it's all in your belief system. Again,
this also can cause problems because if you don't believe
in being healed, that's not going to happen either. Someone

(01:20:38):
can do a healing on continuously work on you and
try to awaken your healing ability and you know, and
get your vibration where it should be. But if you
don't believe in it, it's going to counteract it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I guess I can. I can see that because it's
the same it's the same type of mentality of where
you know, when you know your mother tells you to
wear a hat because it's cold outside, otherwise you might
catch cold. Well, you can't catch hold by haveing can't
catch cold by having a cold head. A cold is

(01:21:15):
a virus, and it doesn't so or when you're cold
and wet, people are like, oh, you know, get in
some dry clothes before it catch cold.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
But what do they keep telling you? See, this is
programming when they tell you, oh, you wear cold because
you're going to catch a cold. This is programming. If
you don't believe in that it's not going to happen,
but they keep programming you for things like that. This
is exactly how it happens for your parents, from media
through television. This is how you get programmed it can
you get told enough times you believe in it, and

(01:21:49):
so they believe. When your feet are cold, you know,
if you don't put shoes on your feet, you're going
to get cold, you're going to grow old because you're aging. No,
actually none of that takes place, but you're believing in it.
So it does happen only way it can happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
M So I still feel twenty five mm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
It's on the system. You If you don't believe in it,
it cannot happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Probably why I go after twenty eight year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I have a young soul. We have a young soul.
You like the young energy, Sure we can go with that.
But so there's a doctor that came to the doctor
you know, including of course you know Nicholas Tesla. Again,
if you guys ever ever want, I mean, I truly,
truly truly recommend you know his book, by the way,

(01:22:42):
Wizard Book from Nicholas. Can't even see it anyway there
it is okay. So Nicholas Tesla Wizard. Please rate this book.
A lot of excellent information, you know, learn all about it,
but also what's really going on. You know, these very good,
highly intelligent was even taken out early because he had

(01:23:03):
plans to I mean, it's all he does is help.
He was all for the people and helping and use
all of his you know, education everything to help. And
he was taken down by several several powerful controlling anywhere
from Watson to Edison to you know, they all were

(01:23:26):
out for money and he wasn't, and so they took
him down. He was very easily manipulated because he didn't
realize you know that they could. They were financing him,
but they also put a cabash on everything he did
because they wanted the wealth. And he wasn't about wealth.
He was about helping people. Another doctor, though, is doctor
Royal right, and he's the one that came up with

(01:23:49):
the frequency machines to help like with cancer. There's also
a site with him if you ever, but look up
also doctor Royal Rife. That's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
He came up actually with the frequency to get rid
of cancer cells completely in your body and that's one
hundred thousand frequencies and three to three hundred thousand frequently frequency.
Literally it'll break up any cancer cells you have in
your body. And it's just you can put that on

(01:24:26):
on YouTube, put that frequency on, or music that has that.
I suggest putting music on with that frequency and sit
there and listen to it. But also ground yourself. Make
sure you're grounded, so completely go through and you know,
thoroughly clear out your system. But there is frequencies for
everything that can help.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
So we have obviously your neighbor is yes, sorry, yeah,
there's noise kilt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Sorry, no, they're actually cleaning so it's my my what
do you call them? And I have a home, so
my whatever they are neighbor no, oh my gosh, the
organization that cleans out or roads and stuff. They're actually

(01:25:20):
plowing my driveway right now. Sorry, yes, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Fun times. But so everything you give me, you're like
one hundred and seventy four hurts, eight hundred and fifty
two hurts. You know that that that sort of thing,
and you know that stuff that you can find on
YouTube and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
And and Michael, yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
But but how are we supposed to get three hundred
thousand hurts again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
You can YouTube it. But again the machines, the machines
you see that when you google that. There are still
those machines that doctor Rife has made, but also they
made new as well, because you know he's that was
back in what nineteen forty, trying to think when he
came out with these machines. Heldon, I do not recall, okay,

(01:26:11):
don't don't see where it is, but there's a website
that he has, Royal Rife dot com, backslash listen dot
html and it comes up with a chart with a
bunch of websites. I'm sorry about this noise. I can't

(01:26:36):
isolate it, so apologize. And it's early Rife frequencies is
what you're going to click on. I wish you could
see this, but anyways, it's different. If you look in there,
it shows frequencies that he has actually shown that can
help with different things a different say, like influenza, worms,

(01:27:04):
tendrous and so he is actually perfected and know that
these frequencies will help you with all of this. And
there is machines. Again, there is machines out there that
have been made to help with those and that's what
we should be going to for help. You know, people

(01:27:25):
go to herbs, you know, they're going to another other
natural remedies. People realize those are frequencies as well. You
can align yourself with HERB frequencies.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
HERB frequencies.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Yeah, so you step find out what herbs has specific frequencies.
And once you do, then you can because again, everything
is frequencies. So once you align yourself with those frequencies,
you're you're clearing everything up. Gosh my god, yes, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Now he's done the whole road in front of me. Well,
that's because you have an entire road in front of you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, you were guys, you're parked on it last night.
So with your trailer, that's what he's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Yeah, that's what you hear. Government work, yes, government motion
right there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
But this is also, you know, all connected to mind control.
I went back to the frequencies though, the one that
you were mentioning. Okay, so each frequency is connected to
certain things, you know the chart that I gave you, you,
like Michael Tarrell, came up with a lot of I
proffers when they downloaded me. I professed referenced the frequencies

(01:28:50):
from Nicholas Tesla and Michael Tourell, and that's what they
actually downloaded me with all of these and then I
researched each frequency according to what Michael Torell came up
because his it's whole Tones. If anybody's interested, wonderful. I
actually use that when people come and I do healings,
cord cutting clearings. This is the frequencies that I use

(01:29:10):
are from Whole Tones, and they are excellent. And each
frequency though has specifics that like organs, that it helps heal.
So I suggest you know, again, it's totally up to you,
but if you want to know more about it, look

(01:29:31):
up Michael Terrell on YouTube and then the frequencies. He'll
talk about his frequence of each frequency and what it
actually pertains to. For instance, we'll do like three ninety
six herds and it's that deals with blood, pH liver, bone, brain, kidney,
and freedom from guilt. So each frequency can help you

(01:29:53):
with certain things. And it's wonderful how he's actually, I mean,
he went and was download what shall we say of
the specific frequencies, and this is what you well see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
It's it's interesting it shows three ninety six because what
you wrote down on my sheet is liberating guilt and fear.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
So I crossed that with let's see, I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Was going to highly suggest that you listen to some
music at three ninety six when you post your podcasts
later in the week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Yeah, that's funny. I started with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Huh, Yeah, I was gonna say that's a good choice. Yes,
it's a good choice.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah. And so I also cross references with Nicholas Testhless
numbers because three six and nine, as everybody knows, once
you know you know three, you know the three six
and nine, then that's the key to the universe. So
all of this is all connected frequencies numbers, but it
all has to do with the human body, the human everything,

(01:30:54):
but frequencies is everything is going back to everything that
will help you sicknesses, food, everything. So what was your
guys' show? I mean, I wish I had seen that
one before we had this came on here. What did
you guys actually talk about when you're going through the frequencies.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Which is what each one did. We talked about Nicholas Tesla,
we talked about, you know, the three sixty nine theory.
Still have no idea why three six nine has anything
to do with the universe. But and then uh we
listed off I did anyway, because I mean I sent

(01:31:37):
photos of it, but I pretty much read what the
frequencies did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
So cool. Do you remember what episode that was?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Uh? I don't know. I can find out, I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Think, and the listeners can actually go to that one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Too, Yes, which makes the entire rest of our show
completely worthless.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Oh no, I'm not done.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Oh okay, then episode three oh two Frequencies of Change.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Okay, three oh two? Yeah, okaype there is. So when
you guys were talking on that show, was there questions
that you that came up about the charge or not?

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Particularly because I mean both Dave and I have I mean,
this one says eight hundred and fifty two hertz is
the connection to God. I haven't haven't experienced that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Say in alignment to complete complete alignment with them with God.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
I'm in complete alignment.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
But so you've used a few of these frequencies.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
I do, at least I have, I since I switched
divisions at UPS. You know, because a lot of these
have to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Do with.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Like healing pain and stuff like that, it kind of
goes kind of goes with my mood kind of what
I'm what I what I feel I need. So there
are some nights I'll do four hundred and thirty two
because that's what you know, YouTube told me was a
healing thing, even though according to yours it really isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Frequency.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Yes, So I mean I've used four hundred and thirty two.
I've used the five twenty eight before, and even though
your list, I think, I think on this one it does.
I've used the nine hundred and sixty three hurt because

(01:34:11):
that's what YouTube told me connects me to the universe.
You have it down as returning to spiritual order. So
but so I've used those. It just depends on what
I'm trying to accomplish in my sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
If it's just, uh, you know, I had a really
sore day or something like that, I'll put on you know,
four thirty two or five twenty eight for healing. If
I want to give the universe a piece of my mind,
I'll uh, I'll go with the fives or the nine
sixty three. But like I haven't listened to all of these,

(01:34:50):
is mostly those three. But I mean the one thing
that I have noticed is i've well, you know, I've
fallen asleep a lot quicker than I used to. And
there's definitely a lot of days I don't know what
goes on between like the hours of like five thirty

(01:35:11):
to six thirty. But like I've gone to bed at
a decent time. I've gotten up throughout, you know, a
couple times during the night or whatever, and I'll get
up at like five thirty and I'll still be sore.
I'd be like I can barely walk. I don't even
want to get up, you know. And then like my
alarm will go off at quarter to seven or something

(01:35:31):
like that, and i have no more pain and I'm
walking fine, and I'm just like, what goes on during
that time? I'm like, because and it's happened more than
once where nothing seems to be working, and like the
last hour and a half before I have to get up,
like everything changes because not.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
In your head when you're sleeping, it's going to make
sure that your mind is completely shut off so there's
no resistance.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
So for the first like seven hours of my sleep,
I'm all over the place, But in that last hour,
I'm just like you know what I'm I'm I've worked it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
All out because there's different levels of sleep, you know,
that a r EM rapid eye movement. Yeah, yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
So yeah, I used to until I discovered the joys
of advil. Recently, I uh I, I would honestly feel
more like more rested. Is that even? Is that the
phrase more rested? Having like a two hour and two

(01:36:38):
to two and a half hour nap than I went
eight hours of regular sleep and I and I go
back to that, you know, because for that like two
to two and a half hours, I'm actually getting sleep
or is that eight hours? And you know, probably all
over the place. Yeah, I'm honestly, recently, until I discovered

(01:36:59):
the joy as a bad vill like almost, I was
just I'm gonna talk to you about this at some point,
has Handy gotten around her yet? Like, am I like
out working like quote unquote working during my during my sleep,
because like there's been a couple of times, especially recently, ah,

(01:37:22):
like I've woke up more exhausted than when I went
to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Yeah, we're constantly fighting on a spiritual level, We're constantly fighting. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
I was just to me, it just was like, am
I even sleepy? Am I even resting? Because it just
it just felt like I was like I hadn't even
gone to bed, So I was actually gonna talk to
you about that to see if that was if that
was the case, because if it is, then I quit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
We're all warriors on a spiritual level.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Just well, fine, then put me on I mean the
medical tent. It's just or whatever. Somebody else can go
on the front lines while I take a nap.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Now there's spies. We all have different we have different titles.
You know, we have our spies, we have our you know, well,
different levels. There.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
Am I captain? I want to be at least a captain. No,
I'm a commander. I commander, it's one underneath the captain.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
But you're a warrior.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
I don't want to be warrior. The Red Shirts always die.
I know it's a Star Trek reference, but still red
Shirts always die.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
No. This is this is the no. This is the
good and the bad. That's what we're dealing with, is
what we're battling.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Are we winning well?

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Because we're being attacked on a human level, and you know,
the minions that get in your way, you know that's
taking you off your course because then it takes you
off of the spirit, off of the battlefield. But they
can distract you on a human level. They can distract you.
It takes you off of the spiritual battle, and that's
what they're trying to do. They're trying to get you
off your spiritual path, so you can't help on the

(01:39:15):
when they're battling. H that's what we call minions.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Gotcha? Sounds like well would help with that, would be a.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Soulmate, depending on where they're at, yes, pending mm hm, Nope,
not always. They can be a distraction as well, which
is my case. I can't not with people because they're distractions.
Not me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Mine's a source of a source of focus and strength,
so it'd be in the universe's best interest if they
want me to continue fighting to work on that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Oh now, it's a huge distraction for you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
It is not a huge distract. Actually for me, it's
only a distraction because they don't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Once. Depending on your partner, you know, if they're well
into their their spiritual.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Yeah, I just I just realized I'm starting to talk
loudly again.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Somebody warn you or you just heard yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
I just heard myself. Okay, Well, I mean I I
can tell that I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Subject.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
It's because nobody's listening to me. I'm trying to relay
important information, and they're just like, eh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
I'm listening, and I'm I'm sending it off to help you,
but spend time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Well, obviously you're going to the United States Postal Service
with that. You need to go next day, air.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
I don't use government.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I was being symbolic, metaphorical, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Remember I have no sense of human right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Forgetting I'll explain why you laugh at everything I say, yep,
because you can't tell the difference between a good joke
and a bad. You're gonna need that for your podcast,
by the way, Yeah, that I do. What's the frequency

(01:41:24):
for sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Love and relationship? That probably is six thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
It helps with dysfunctional family behavior, restores relationships, the gallbladder,
the adrenals, and the meridian. That's that's a lot of
different stuff for one frequency to do, like it almost
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
That's see, and that's your human get in the way
when your human tries to make sense of things. That's
one part.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
There's come on, helps with its functional family. There's restores relationship. Okay,
I completely get that those two are connect.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Because because and then you have gallbladder, right, But it's
all see, all of them are in a frequency, and
it's all those pertain to a frequency of six point
thirty nine, which is also the note of f. It's
all in notes, and it's the heart chakra.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Okay, So what does the gallbladder have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
With anything, because it's connected to that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
The gall bladder is connected to my heart in.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
A frequency level. Yes, so this is always that your
organs resonated a certain frequency and are affected by certain frequencies.
So we're trying to bring it into alignment.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
No, I get this. I was going to put out
a logical comparative, so this do because it kind of
almost makes sense to me now. So because we lately,
I've had to deal with a lot of fuse box
issues due to trying to power my UH to power

(01:43:04):
my trailer, and I noticed that weird things are all
on the same fuse, like my master bedroom and my bathroom,
or on the same fuse as the outlet outside, which
doesn't make any sense, but apparently when they put together
this house, that made sense to them. So on this thing,

(01:43:32):
my bedroom and the bathroom could be the function dysfunctional
family behavior and that restores relationships. That's probably obviously the
master bedroom. Uh you like that one. That's pretty proud
of myself. I almost went to the bathroom. I'm like, nope,
that way in the bedroom. But the gold ladder is

(01:43:56):
the uh the outlet outside that makes actually no sense?
Why should be on that free right?

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Yeah, we don't make sense it. We just know that
this These are the frequencies that are affected by the
you know, the organs are affect specific organs, emotions, meridians,
you know, all have specific frequencies that they are in
tune with or need to be in tune.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
With, and all of these, uh frequencies all well except
for the four four four, but that was the one
that you said, he of David. Yeah, but all of
these pretty much added up to a three is six
or a nine, correct, whereas the four four four does

(01:44:49):
not because that he goes twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
But then you add one and two together, it's three.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Oh yeah, okay, never mind. Remember that wasn't written out
for me all that well, but I mean you said
that that was what the music used to be, like,
that was the music frequency. It also is lungs, pneumonia,
blood circulation. Uh, celluarization, the blood spleen, blood and spleen.

(01:45:25):
I missed the comma my apologies. Five extends life.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
I do enjoy living most days. Repairs DNA and helps
with hormone and balance. I don't know what that is
for women.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Women have the hormone and balance when as they get older.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, of course. Uh and great for
the entire body.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I have an issue with that because it's stealing milk.
That that's milk's line. Oh, it's great for the entire body.
That's milk. Not Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
And see there's the again, the government trying to program
you saying no, it's for this, not for that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Ah, yes, continue on with no sense of humor. Sorry,
it's all right, thought, I mean, do you yeah, that's
not that's okay? Do I what?

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
I was gonna ask, do you use any of these
frequencies more often than any others? At all? Or at all?

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I use, oh, goodness, four thirty two, five twenty eight,
I believe I do use three ninety six the one
The specific ones I use, those are ones I think
I used mainly for Also.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Six must have you must have the volume turned down
when you use three ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Six among other people myself.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
I don't use it for you. Yes, of course, I'll
explain a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Thank you. I should should I should start listening to my.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Own Again, you don't lead by example. I'm certain starting
to see that do as you say, not as you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Do something something I know I get. I get lost
in the human we all do. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
I just prefer it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I don't hate it. I can't wait to get out
of this meat suit. So, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
All right, I mean, are there any that you use personally?
Was my question.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
For thirty two.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
For thirty two fair enough? So, uh, I don't think
we did this during the show because it was uh
more about the frequency. And maybe we did. I can't
remember that far back. That was like twenty four episodes ago.

(01:48:08):
Jez showed up for those. He showed up for that one.
He was there, He was there that night.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
But it was a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
It was the one that I've tried multiple times have
each one has been a complete failure, but the the
three six nine of creation, and you had given this
to me, and it was it's different, different ways of

(01:48:41):
doing it, and it's pretty much a kind of a
simplified way of manifestation. Yeah, so you can do it
a couple of different ways. You have the energy frequency
vibration three six nine of creation. Write it down and
this is, this is, this is what I tried to
do a lot. Three times in the morning, six times

(01:49:05):
in the afternoon, nine times in the evening. So my
problem with that was, uh I and you tried to
correct me on this one, and I still don't know
if I was doing it right. But you had to
write it as if it had already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
We lived past President of future at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
So it should matter then which way I did it,
because I did it as okay, I want this to happen,
not that it did happen.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Right, So think of something you want to manifest in
your physical experience and focus on that. And then when
you focus on that, then it's you know, write it
down three times in the morning, three times in the afternoon,
and three times in the evening. You can either write
it I.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
Thought it was three six nine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
You said three three three, No, three six times sorry,
three six nine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Yeah, but you can, or you can focus on it
three times per day.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Correct, but you make sure that your mind is in
the right you're in the right frame of mind because
you can talk yourself out of it as well when
you're focusing on it. It's the same thing with writing down.
If you're not going to believe this to happen, you're
going to sabotage it. It's on a belief system. When
you're writing this down, focus on yes, this is happening now,
and you can have to completely believe in it. But

(01:50:29):
I'm going to tell you one, I know why yours
isn't working. This is the other thing is emotion behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Oh, there's a lot of emotion behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Yes, but you have to start not in a place
of lack or not you're going to. It's a place
you have to start out in a happy emotion. Vibration. Vibration.
It's alid in vibrations. So when you're okay, think back
to a really happy time in your life. It's closing business. Breathe.
I always help people breathe in through your mouse for accounts,
hold it for two accounts, and out your mouth for accounts,

(01:50:58):
because people have a habit of holding them brought will
listen to information. When you do that, I'll think about
back to a really happy time in your life and
then tell me when you're there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Oh we're doing this now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Oh yes, you can do it really quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Go ahead, all right, I mean live on the air.
Why not take a few minutes of silence.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Why this is not happening, Why it's not working for you? Okay, well,
oh okay, breathe that in. I want you to relive
it all over again. Be in it, reliving it all
over again. Okay, pull it forward like you're living in

(01:51:44):
it now. Yeah, okay, now focus on what you wrote down.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Yeah. See it's not the same, it's not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
This emotion, emotion has a huge it's a huge factor.
See how you felt like you didn't talk yourself out
of it. You were living it. That's it. You're like
you were on top of the world, that you control everything.
That's where you need to be. You're not talking yourself
out of anything. Your mind. You are controlling your mind.
As to your mind controlling you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Yeah, but I can't talk myself out of a memory.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
But the emotion, it's the emotion part of it. It's
not that happy emotion. It's a vibration.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Right, So now I get what you're trying to say.
It's just there seems to be a small loophole in it. Again,
it seems to be large loopholes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Well, because there's a there's so much too it. I mean, yeah,
it's easy to write it down. It's it's really it's
a habit that you're creating. For one, when you're writing
it down, continuously writing it down, is it You're you're
creating a habit and a belief, but it's also an
emotion that has to be behind it. Okay, well, so
you're already down more of like going through the motions

(01:53:05):
but not believing. So when you get into the emotion
part of it, now you're in the emotion bringing it
to life, believing it, and then also creating that See, okay,
that's why you're didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
All right, I'll try it one more time, a little different.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Trying as one of the seven deadliest words. Dude, it
is an action word.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know Yoda's line.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
We get the thing that we verbally say or think
is a frequency that we put out to the universe.
The universe is just a waiter and he's handed it
back to you. Careful what you say and what you think,
because you're creating.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
I could create the end of the show here in
a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
I'm just trying to help explaining why things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
So there's one more thing here that I don't know
if I just didn't read it or just stop right through,
but are just never bothered to Uh, I was never
going to use it, so I just I forgot all
about it. But I'm going to read this and then
you can explain what exactly it is supposed to do.

(01:54:17):
So another one of these frequency vibration energy things said,
write it down in a circle. Yes, three distinct parts, six,
six intentions, nine actions. Yep, explain that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
So when you start, it's it's more of this is
the original, starting with your three circles. So law of attraction,
the science a deliberate creation, and the art of allowing
are the three, okay, the nine. So image like attracts,

(01:55:02):
like thoughts are things. Law of Gordon. It's g O
y A, which is putting, putting, yeah, putting it in
the work, putting it in the world into works, putting
in words. The other one's detachment tools. More is less, gratitude,

(01:55:29):
being grateful, and certainty. Just do it, trust in yourself.
But these are attached. So like the law of attraction
is self image. Likes attract like thoughts are things. The
science of deliberate creation is the law of gayo attacked, detachment,

(01:55:51):
and certainty. The art of allowing is more is less,
gratitude and tools.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
Okay, and that's like the nine actions.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Which you have to that's what that's what you really
have to focus on. This is where you have to be.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
What exactly do you mean by three distinct parts? You
have to do like three So so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
A law of attraction. Is when this is how you
attract things. You have to be in that mental place
of attracting a lot of attraction. Knowing how to do
it correctly is the thoughts that I was telling you
and for a lot of attractions, how to do this

(01:56:45):
is thoughts are things like attract. So you know what
it is. It's a then self image. So it's you
you know how you use the law of attraction, and
this is the proper way of how to do that.
This is how it all works.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Okay, I'm just gonna say that because I really understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Come back to you more about it after. But yeah,
it's it's all on your own right frame of mind
starting out with But people don't realize. People like, oh,
a lot of attraction. It doesn't work, you know, It's
like yeah, because there's more behind it. There's emotion, and
it's controlling your mind. So your mind controlling you anything
you think. You focus your energy on your creating. That's

(01:57:35):
where you have to be in the right frame of
mind first, and that's why self image, that's where you are.
How are you? You know, if you have low self esteem,
you're gonna have a hard time because you keep thinking
that you don't deserve, you're not enough. So it's all
about you're working on self image then likes to tract,
like understanding that what you are, you're going to attract.
Thoughts are things. Again, what you focus your energy on,

(01:57:56):
you're going to create. That's how the law of attraction
will work. Is working.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Yeah, it never really worked for me all that much.
It's kind of like the the law of love subtraction.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Very cool, it's all and would you believe.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
In Yeah again, large loophole in that. But as I said,
I'm manifesting the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Well, loo could happened? Oh two minutes, get to wait?

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
No, because yeah, for anybody who U wants to talk
with you about this further or or in more detail,
or wants to you know, maybe wants to have a reading,
or wants to have a cleansing or a cord cutting.

(01:58:55):
I know you've done a couple of those for my
team for whatever reason. Where where can they go and
get that? Get your services?

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
Well on my website insightful soul dot com and you
can tell that's my website. You can go in there
or email me readings by Sina at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Yep, sweet h Well, I can't even thank you for
coming on because now you're a co host, So now
it's just now it's just your your responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
In fact, I shouldn't even give you the opportunity to
to to pitch yourself anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
Well, you put insightful soul sena insightful Soul on there, then.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Write your bio. Okay, but you still haven't done for
the team. By the way, I want to. I want
to officially and publicly welcome uh miss Sina Dysman to
the Honesty Paranormal Society team. Thank you, But yeah, well
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(02:00:10):
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