Episode 327 - Spiritual Warfare - The Odyssey Files Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
I why, good.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Morning, paranormal community, and thank you for taking in this
latest episode of The Honesty Files. I'm your host Michael
O'Neill with me this morning. It's the great scene of ikesman.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Morning, Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Are you oh just tone it down a little bit? Yeah,
aren't we all? Apparently so is so is my phone,
which I completely forgot to turn off off all the volume.
What you guys just heard was my Rodney danger field notification,

(01:58):
which was notified me of absolutely nothing important.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Oh sorry, my neighbor figure sh out sorry here crap
out ship. Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So you're you're good. Uh yeah, I have noticed now
twice that your neighbors really like to to interrupt our show.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, they make themselves known. I guess they want to
be on the show too. I'll have to go talk
to them about it.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That would be amazing. Actually, tonight we are interviewing seen
as neighbors who continually make noise during the show.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Actually awesome. Yeah, they're a Mexican couple.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Very nice, nice, nice, nice nice. All right, So, uh
we need to hop right in because we have a lot.
We have a lot to do. Not only do I
have announcements to make, be at mail, pay a bunch
of great bunch of great stories in the and then
we have a very I think it's a very important

(03:04):
topic yes tonight, because I've been noticing a lot lately.
I mean, yes, it's over social media, but it isn't
like misinformation type stuff, Like there's nothing political about anything
that we're talking about. So first off, I just wanted

(03:25):
Dave's not with us this week because he had a
very close person of him pass away, so he's he
is dealing with that. I don't know if he will
be back next week or not yet, as he's still
obviously dealing with the loss. So if anybody I would
like to spread their good wishes to Dave, obviously you

(03:52):
comment on this video, you can send in an email,
do it from the website, you know, whatever whatever you
want to do. So he actually this announcement I'm about
to be He has no idea about it whatsoever right now.
I asked him yesterday. I was like, you know, I
got if you're up to it, you know, I gotta

(04:13):
tell you something about the show. And he never even responded.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So oh yeah, that's I mean, it was huge what
happened to him.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
So oh exceptly I I'm not I'm not saying like,
oh it's fault No, of course, not going on right exactly,
And so I'm just I just reiterating the fact that
this is a very new development and he doesn't know

(04:40):
about it yet. But like me, he doesn't listen to
the show either, So we make the show. What does
he need to listen to it for? But uh so, yeah,
so if you because I know there's a bunch of
people that that he knows personally, that he talks to

(05:00):
a lot that that that do listen to the show,
not live, but I mean they'll be afterwards. If you
could just not say anything until I get I get
my hands on him, that would be awesome. So here's
what it is. Here's what it is. So for the
since the beginning of this show almost eight years ago now,

(05:26):
the show has been in somebody else's hands and the
network yes, well yes, but it's been multiple networks. So
we started out a pair of X and then we
just felt like they were kind of hindering us a
little bit and what we could and could not do,

(05:46):
and so we're like, Okay, we're gonna branch out, and
then the after Hours network took us on. My friend
at the time, Joel was the runner of that, and
we were really really I'm so happy. We were really
starting to get like a lot of good momentum going,
getting a lot of downloads. Finally, after you know, a

(06:09):
year or two or whatever, and I don't know what happened.
I don't know if he got jealous that our show,
that Dave Meisa's show was getting more downloads than his
or what. But even even as being a friend and
again not like an acquaintance, we see twice a year,

(06:30):
really good friend. We're talking to the phone, we're hanging out.
I'm driving all the way up north to go ATVing
with sends me an email and like in the most
I guess, dickish but prevent but like professional manner possible,
Like you know, I've decided I'm cutting your show from

(06:50):
the from the network. Wow. And I'm just like, huh,
call and tell me that. I'm like, where's this, Like,
dear mister O'Neill, I mean from like what do you
not know? Like what is going on here?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And what was the time span that you were on
that network?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh gosh, at least probably two years something like that. Yeah,
I mean, we weren't new, we weren't new to that
network whatsoever. But so we had gotten booted off that
the reason I still cannot even fathom. I think I

(07:31):
think his excuse was he was trying to make space.
You give your show and my show. I'm like, that's it.
What space do you need. So but at that time
we had also joined the web network, which is where
we are now, and again started getting, you know, like

(07:55):
some pretty good momentum, not as good as what we
were on with after hours, but after hours had more
have more following, like there's more people associated with it.
And then at the beginning of last year as as
or maybe in the beginning of this year, I think
it was the beginning of this year, they decided out
of the blue to cut their Spreaker, cancel their Spreaker account,

(08:17):
move everything onto their their website, and then completely messed
all that up. And and so they put they pretty
much put the character for the horse like they didn't.
They just canceled Spreaker and was like, everything will be good, Well,
just running off this website. Well, then they couldn't get
their website work, so they just did things horribly. So

(08:41):
we weren't putting. Even though we were making live shows
every week like like we were, none of those episodes
were going out or like eight weeks, none of the
episodes were going out until finally I was like, screw this,
I'll pay for Speaker. Then I'll put the account on

(09:03):
my card instead of THEIRS, and then our shows can
go out. Well, they figure out whatever they're doing, but
by that time we had lost everything, like all of
our subscript because eight weeks, obviously they're not making the
show anymore. So we had to start over again for

(09:25):
like the third time, trying to build you know, the
show back up, let people know we were still on.
After a couple months or whatever, the web network came back,
you know, they they I think they just decided that
I have heard a word about the website, like sense

(09:45):
I don't even know if it's still up or what
they're doing with it, but they took back over the
Speaker account problem. I haven't had an issue. Well. Then
I saw a post and this is again something that
we could talk about, our main our main topic, because
you brought it up last night is kind of being

(10:07):
attributed to it. But I saw a post from one
of the people from the Web Network that the Stan
excuse me who who pretty much runs it, started it
when I was very, very sick, and I don't know
how bad it is. It was just a Facebook post,

(10:29):
but as one of those like keep them in your prayers,
and usually people don't do that for the flu, right,
So I mean, I I honestly I have zero hard
feelings towards Stan or anybody at the web Network. I
definitely hope he recovers quickly and is back to full

(10:49):
full health soon. But like the day after that, for
whatever reason, because I'm an advent on the site, any
of the Spreaker emails that go, oh, go to me,
you don't even go to them, they go to me,
And so yeah, any any month that or whatever month
they pay their bill, I get that receipt. Well, I

(11:11):
got an email from Speaker saying you just canceled your account.
Are you sure you wanted to do that? And I'm
like what, So no word from them whatsoever? Again and
still not. This was like last week earlier this week,
still no word from anybody about anything, and they canceled
their Speaker account, and I'm like, is.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
There anybody else that works with him?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think his wife, but obviously she's more okay, but yeah,
so I mean it's pretty much just that. So uh
and and honestly, it's not. It's not hard to do.
I mean one of the one of the main reasons
that I'm at admin is I was like, why why

(11:57):
do I need to send the the show to you
so you can upload it? Why don't just bring me
an admin and then I can do it for you?
And from also from what I've understood from like the Times,
and while they've got like a dozen shows on their network, yeah,
we're the only one that has actually posted in the

(12:17):
last year. WHOA, Okay, there are some that haven't done
a show in two years. So again, not a hard
thing to do. But when when you need money to
go elsewhere, I completely understand that this is something that
you would you would cut. So instead of taking back

(12:42):
over the web network and once again going back under
somebody else's I don't want to say somebody else's rule,
because that's not that's puts way a bigger connotation to.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
It than it needs to be under somebody else.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right, But we keep getting this momentum and we keep
having it just severed, and I'm tired of it, Like
beyond frustrated and tired of it, and so I created
our own network. It was it was something that we

(13:18):
were going to do anyways at some point in time.
It yes, because we just Dave and I just want
to be that source of, you know, being able to
put out quality shows, not just ours, but like other

(13:39):
people's shows as well. So I started the Odyssey Network. Yes,
on spreaker. I don't know how far it's gone out yet,
but here is here's what is happening on that though
I've already started. There's thirty two up now, but I've
started to go back into the archives and I have

(14:04):
started uploading shows from episode one. Okay, so what's out
there now? It's episode like one hundred and seventy four.
I think Brandy Green and Dustin Perry is like the
very first episode that we ever did with the web network.
So I'm now uploading all of our original shows. And

(14:24):
my god, were we bad at what we did. I mean,
I don't mean to say like we didn't know what
we were talking about or anything like that, but I
just mean, like the background audio and putting stuff together
and the production quality. Holy god, were we bad at

(14:45):
the first couple of episodes.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
But that's where you learned from you said, he's a
starting place.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, I'm just trying for those of you who want
to go back and actually listen, because there's some amazing episodes,
there's some amazing interviews with people who haven't been on since.
We really need to get them back. But because my
reputation is garbage right now, nobody will used to come on,
will come on again, I know, definitely definitely working on it.

(15:14):
We're hoping to have people back here, you know, hopefully
sometimes this year, and there are several people who will
you know obviously still come on.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
And we in fact, they just talked to Barry Fitzgerald
yesterday about he's going to be coming on in April.
So we have a whole bunch of those shows to
look forward to. But anyway, if you want to go
back and listen to them from the beginning, after the show,

(15:45):
I'm going to be spending all day uploading more. The
only problem is that I can't seem to find like
one hundred and fifty episodes. Oh my gosh, I think
I know where they are, and they're they're they're not accessible.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Everything happens for a reason, So there's reasons, so it's
let it go.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Right. No that that wasn't a complaint. I'm just saying
that that's why it's going so slow, because I've literally
had to go to the to honestly Paranormal society dot
com where all those were originally posted and re download them. Okay,
And I was a moron thinking that I would never
have to deal with these again, and so all they

(16:30):
all they most of them just say like stream and
then the date and then some googly gup numbers and
come to find out they're not there. They weren't in uh,
they weren't in order. So I've literally had to listen
to every single episode to find out exactly which episode
it is.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay, real quick, don't you also upload them to YouTube?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Not that time? No? Okah, no, uh app I think
it was probably like episode you know, two hundred and
seventy five before we got to YouTube.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, so yeah, but yeah, so hopefully I will have
over one hundred of the original episodes, which you will
not find on a podcast whatsoever. Our podcast like a
podcast platform until now. But you can go and you

(17:27):
can search for the Odyssey the Odyssey Honesty Files Radio show,
and that will be the new one. It has our
you see it in the in the top right hand
corner of the screen if you're watching the video are
kind of Biohazard Odyssey files. That's the logo. Like I said,
there's there's thirty two episodes on there right now. All

(17:47):
of them are from pair, our pair of X Days,
So you'll you're gonna hear all of their You're gonna
hear all of our commercials and entrances and and I'm
I've so been missing these and I think we need
to put them in. Is our promos, which we haven't
done in a very very long time since we stopped

(18:07):
doing an intermission, But I think we need to bring
those back.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, Okay, so there's reasons you know that all this happened.
For one, for you to get your own network, but
two is because you need to go back and look
at that and see what was kind of kind of
missing on your show that you could add in. That's
just the reason.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
What was missing was the ability to produce the show.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, but it led to other things, right of course.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh yeah, But like I said, some absolutely phenomenal episodes
you could listen to the original paranormal feud show where
the board went flying and everybody laughed at me. But yeah,
so head out there search for the Odyssey Network. Should

(18:59):
be able to to find us now, I hope, but
we'll be on uh probably not. Uh, I mean it's
just gonna right now. It's only our show. So I
have an Odyssey Network page and an Odyssey Files page.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
At some point in time, if more shows want to
join on, then yes, I will create an Honesty Network
page where all of our all of our shows will
have access to it. If you've ever wanted to have
like a paranormal show for anybody that's listening, Uh, I
think you want to give it a try, send you know,
send me an email. We'll see what we can do. Obviously,

(19:40):
will help in any way that we can to get
everything off the ground. Uh pretty soon if seen it
can get out of her human uhr, her own specific
show will with which I I'm going to help you with.
Like I said, well, will absolutely help you in whatever

(20:07):
way we can. But yeah, so that's our big announcement,
which Dave doesn't know about yet. Yes, and I think
that's what he's gonna do too, because him and I
have been talking about it for like a year, since
since the whole debacle. Yeah, since the whole debacle at
the at the beginning of last year it happened, We're like,

(20:28):
we should just do this by ourselves. Yes, and that's
just the next logical, logical step. So hopefully in the
next couple of days there will be like three hundred
and something episodes under the Odyssey files and not just
one hundred and whatever it is. But here's the thing
that I want to tell people about. Podcasting platforms do

(20:51):
not like multiples of the same show. So chances are
once I reach the Brandy Green and Dustin Perry episode,
I will probably be the leading our show off of
the web network and then obviously moving them to our
new one. So your subscription to our show off web

(21:12):
net will be completely useless pretty much after this show.
So I implore you, I beg you, I ask you,
I demand of you, however you want to take it,
to go over there now and subscribe and and yeah,
so you'll never you won't miss any more episodes ever ever,

(21:34):
because now it's under our our rule and ship will
be done properly.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
For you. Congratulations. Beginning to talk about this last year
new beginnings. This was pushing you. So now this is
now you finally made that step.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, every year is a new beginning.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Huge.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, well I didn't do it last year.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I did it this year nocause you wouldn't let go.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Oh Lord, neither will you. So you know what, No,
no more, no, no more getting on my case for
being in my human when you can't do it yourself
or you can't leave your leave it yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
My virgo in the way that wants perfection, I'm.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Right there with you. I'm a Capricorn, but I'm definitely
a perfection all right. So, like I said, we've got
uh great great stories, which uh we Now that I've
talked for like twenty minutes straight, we'll get to Yeah,

(22:47):
it's proud to present the mail bag. Mmm, yes, the
mail bag. All right, So here you go, start starting arrows.
I don't feel safe in my house anymore. For a
while now, I've been seeing things around my house. It
started off small, with doors being nudged open, without windows

(23:10):
open or the ac on. The first big thing was
seeing the shadowy figure in my parents' room. It wasn't
doing much, just peeking around the corner, watching me. I
wasn't sure if it was real or not, but my
cat reacted to it as well. Recently, it has started
to progress further by being what sounds like running up
the stairs while everyone is asleep. I'd questioned my mom

(23:32):
about where my cat was the nights it happens. Majority
of the time he is with her, other times he's downstairs.
The confusing part is that he's old. He doesn't run
like that anymore. Other experiences that really seemed to further
show that there was energy was that above my sink
there is a window. There is a view to the

(23:53):
fence along my house, but we'd have junk back there.
One night, my dad picks me up from work and
I'm eating la dinner. I hear what sounds like something
trying to open the window, so the seal creaks a little.
I heard it turned, and I saw a faceless creature
or thing that was supposedly looking at me. Duck away

(24:14):
and hide. I run upstairs to get my dad and
we both run outside looking for whatever it was. The
most confusing part is that it would have had made
noise to escape. This thing vanished, no trace, no sound.
He's a man of logic and reasoned that he The
reason that he came up with was it being a reflection.

(24:35):
It would have to be the weirdest reflection to be
not moving as I turned my head, only to duck
away a second after seeing it. From then on, I
would see a figure in the bathroom downstairs. It would
just stand there in the corner of my eye, but
vanish when I look at it. I was skeptical, wondering
if it was a trick of the light. But as
the last but as of last night, I looked over,

(24:58):
expecting to see the figure, but instead I see an
arm poking out the doorway. I froze as it again,
like the face retreat. A second later, my cat was
downstairs staring at the doorway as confused as I was
sat down sitting next to him, kind of redundant, staring

(25:19):
at the doorway, waiting for something to happen. But nothing
did until they went upstairs. I had some clothes out,
getting ready to put them away when I heard what
sounded like the whimper of a little girl. Wondering if
it was me, I tried replicating the sound, but it
wasn't happening. I've been beyond confused, wondering if it's my
imagination or not, especially considering the fact that my cat

(25:39):
has reacted to these experiences as well. I don't know
what's going on or why anymore. So No, normally I'd be like, ah,
you know, nothing's really happening, don't worry about it, YadA, YadA, YadA.
I honestly don't think that that's the case right now.

(26:02):
And here's why. And I don't know. Seems gona agree
with me or not. That's fine. When we're dealing with
negative entities and like demonic entities. They always seem to
have a playbook, which I think is the dumbest thing
that they could possibly do. Like all of their stories
always seem to start the same, you know, these little

(26:23):
things here and there to kind of get your attention,
and then they start ramming up with little little things
that might steer you towards a different steer you down
a path of belief or mentality that you have and
you can't figure it out no matter what. And then
after a time they start to show show, you know,
a figure shadow figure out of the corner. There's got

(26:44):
to be something here, and then they start to bring
in the entity they want you to believe they are.
This is right along with I don't want to say
this right along with the NFL, but it is and
distant concept and that is all of a sudden, oh well,
now there's a little girl. So now you're going to

(27:05):
be oh, there's a little girl here, Well that's okay,
come on, and what's wrong with you? You know, you
start to trust the fact that you're not in any
more danger until you make the mistake of inviting it
in and inviting it to do, you know whatever, to
talk to you, to use your energy whatever. I would

(27:28):
get somebody on this immediately, whether it's psychmedium like Sina,
whether it's a reputable paranormal team, somebody needs to come
in and actually figure out what is going on. I
don't think you're dealing with a little girl. I think
whatever's there, I'm not even gonna say it's demonicor not,
just using that as the fact that that's just like

(27:51):
their to try to gain your trust, or that they're
you know, relax you a little bit. But I think
this needs to be taken care of me. Uh I honestly,
I don't want to go down the road of whatever
creature yourself is an alien that was like The only

(28:11):
thing that really didn't make sense about this was this
faceless creature coming in through your window. Uh. Sena might
have more more to say about that. I'm sure she does. Uh. Yes,
I think right now, regardless of whatever is going on,
you need to get somebody in there. Uh. Whatever route

(28:36):
you take. It's like medium, paranormal team, it doesn't matter.
Just just just get it looked at, figure out what
is going on, uh, and get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Okay. So if it was a negative entity, you're okay.
You have your senses for one, and that's the hair
is going to rise on back of the you know
you're gonna you know, they always say that your hair
rises on the back of your neck. Would be hell.
Any negativity. Your body's going to tell you this person
is sensitive for one thing. But the cat's going to
verify any kind of paranormal activity. It's paranormal.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Again. Yes, you pretty much ruled out that it was
going to be an alien. This person's abilities are starting
to open up more where they're be able to sense it.
Once the ghost or spirit found out that they could
see them, then they're now they're talking to them and

(29:31):
coming in more. But it's more mediumship. When people will
get more and more open to their mediumship, they're going
to see more. And that's what's going on. They're being
opened more and more because of other sides seeing like, oh,
you can see us, but they're also other abilities are
open up where they can see actually what's going on

(29:53):
in their homes. This has been going on the whole time,
but it's just now their abilities are opening up more
where there can see, they can hear more, and the
cat's verifying. It's very again, very connected to the cat
as well, because the cat. It's they're looking at the
reaction to the cat, seeing that the cat is seeing
what they're seeing. This is all paranormal and so it

(30:14):
is definitely the the abilities. When people's abilities start to
wake up and they start using them more, whether they
know it or not, this happens and you start showing
up more and they're thinking, well, this just happened. Now, No,
you're used, you're you're opening up more, and that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know things. She can help at all, No.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Just tell if she because it's not it's not trying,
it's not trying to hurt them. It's not trying to
scare them. It's just showing up. It's it's literally just
peaking and interesting. It's never it's it's not interfering as
far as trying to scare them because peaking, it's not
showing up like well, you know, or scratching them or anything.
Talk to them, talk to it, but just tell them
it's like if they don't want it there Again, people

(30:59):
don't realize in a human meat suit, you are stronger
than they are. And you tell them you are not
allowed here. You have the strength and the ability to
tell them where they can and can't go in your
home because this is your home. You're telling them, no, sorry,
you're not allowed this is my home. I see you,
but you're not allowed and I'm not welcoming you. And

(31:20):
I'm talking to you, but I'm not welcoming you in.
I want you to leave. And you tell them that's
what you do in any situation at all. It's like, no,
you're not allowed here. I see you, but you're not
allowed here. I do not want you in my home.
And that's all you have to do. You don't have
to bring anybody in. You have the ability to do that.
And Lily, and it's being not forceful, but just very

(31:42):
strong towards them. Not fearful, just go no and just
like stand your ground, this is your home. They're not
allowed in there.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Wow, that's two different days. All right, people there you
go side. Who's right?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I mean it sounded in the beginning, like you said,
I did, sound like it was alien opening the window.
But no, spirits do the same thing. I've been on
several paranormal especially town for old farm homes. That's happened.
They'll open, They'll start from the outside and open windows
and creak in and yeah, that's that just goes the
spirits hollowed on the property. You're just making their presence

(32:26):
known to that person. Fine, yeah, all right, ready for
story number two? Yes, ma'am, nightmare possible premonition dream. Just
woke up from a very lucid dream. I was shopping

(32:46):
at Target with my daughter and we ran into my
fiance and his friends. I bought flowers, white and yellow
daisies and a clear package with a green lining, a
calendar with poppies on it, and then left the store
and realized I was driving on a one lane road
behind my fiance and his friends. They were in a
red jeep and it was sunny outside, but the roads

(33:07):
were wet. Jeep suddenly swerved left and right and then
flipped multiple times. I pulled over and told my daughter,
eight years old, to stay in the car and to
stay buckled, and then ran to the jeep, calling nine
to one one. I could see through the window that
his friend had been driving and he was awake, but
there was so much blood. I couldn't see anyone else
in the car because of all the wreckage and the

(33:29):
blood on the windows. I was panicking and running, and
then thankfully I woke up. It's been an hour. The
details and the feelings are very still, very vivid. The
whole dream feels like a memory. Has someone else had
something like this happen? What does it mean a lot
of times, Yeah, premonitions definitely can be premonitions of what's

(33:50):
going to happen, especially this very vivid. Again, when people
don't realize what abilities they have, they can, you know,
that's the psychic ability. Premonitions are seeing the future, what's
going to happen. And yeah, definitely be warning them to
tell you know, the friend or whatever, slow down, you know,
especially if all of a sudden they're in a store

(34:12):
and this all starts to happen again, and looks you know,
in real time, in human time, they're in a store also,
you know, with a daughter and you know, buying flowers.
If it all of a sudden like deja vu. Yeah,
it was a warning and to tell the friends slow down,
be careful. I'm also going to get into another one though.

(34:34):
This could be where she's seeing a pair of another
dimension of another life of hers as well, or does
this happen. Sorry, we have multiple dimensions that we you
know that different times, you know, in if we think it,
it's it can come about. It's just like doctor Strange,
you have multiple dreams, and this is actually it does

(34:55):
take place. Those are.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I wasn't like laughing or chuckling silently. Uh yeah, you know.
But no, that that that look was because I was
waiting for that, Okay, because especially when she said it
was a memory, I'm like, well, obviously it's not a memory,
but talking to you as much as I have like
that would just go directly and this has happened but

(35:24):
in another dimension, and so I was kind of like
I was waiting for it, and then I'm like, there
it is.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
We live past in the future at the same time,
and so hap and that's the people that yell. But there,
you know, in the dream, in this present time, it
is waiting to happen again. But again, you live past
for the future, so it's already happened. So she's already
said seen this before. And then we also we have
different dimensions that we live in as well, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
But here's the thing that uh, you know, I guess
in the grand scheme of talking about the question this
one this would have come up. But you know, you
and I have had a conversation about dreams that colors matter,
pay attention to the colors. And I was struck by
the fact that as she's writing about this dream, she

(36:17):
made sure to tell us the colors with the colors
of the flowers, and uh, you know, the fact that
they had this green ribbon and not just like they
were tied up or anything like very descriptive about the
colors that that she was seen.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And not just the colors but the specific item daisies
are huge. It's a huge meaning. Actually ask no, I
did look at that. No, it's for it's for new beginnings.
But also you know, things are okay, and you're gonna

(36:58):
be fine. Uh, I just here, I'm a click on
real click on something. So it's spirituality, purity, innocence, new beginnings,
and childhood. Due to their bright white petals and cheerful appearance,
often symbolizes the rebirth of life after winter and connecting
to the concept of divine beauty and the innocence of

(37:21):
a new life. They are also linked to the idea
of motherhood, fertility, and some cultures. So there's it's huge
meaning with with daisies. Special I've had them. Actually, something
had happened to me, an exid taking his life, and
on my fortieth birthday he came to me with daisies,
and so it is, you know, it's just it's a

(37:43):
huge spiritual meaning with daisies.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well then I think I think the meaning of this
dream is it is quite clear, is that her relationship
with her fiance is dead and she needs to move on.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
No, it's rebirth, childhood, it's just yeah. But it's just
just be careful and no, pay attention, Lily, pay attention
to the dream. See if there's obviously there's something more.

(38:21):
We only get to hear what they write. You don't
know what else is going on. In their life. So
we only get to walk into this part of it,
so you don't know what else has been going on
in her life. And so maybe she's scared that he's
going to die and you know, because the things that
have been going on in her life, so you don't
know what else is behind this mhm. But because a

(38:43):
lot of time okay, so tell you a lot of
times when you when people are asking questions through their life,
they're getting answers all the time, but they're you know,
they're humans and the weight so a lot of it
will come into their dreams and will answer a lot
of questions they've been asking throughout the day or a week,
and so this is how it actually gets interpret it
through a dream like this is you know, they're answering
her like they need to be careful, they're true reckless.

(39:05):
This is what's what could happen.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay, I understand, I just uh I get I give
him my opinion based why do you think she got
a calendar of puppies.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
She likes puppies, they're gentle, that's it. Well, because remember
her daughter is eight years old and shopping with her,
so it's probably for the daughter. My puppy. You know, puppies,
not dog puppies, are very gentle, new you know, new beginnings,
you know, innocent exactly what Daisy says, it's innocence, new beginning.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
So she got a whole lot of a whole lot
of visualization or metaphorical new beginnings. M okay, all right.
I personally don't think that it's a premonition dream. I
think it's either a dream based on her own anxieties

(40:10):
or her or her spirit guys or something are trying
to tell her something.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Answers, like I said, a lot of answers.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's what I'm saying. So you know, spirits, guys are answering,
you know, whatever, whatever it is. Or as as you said,
she was experiencing something that happened ah in another another reality,
in another dimension, another universe, as somebody who has had
this happen multiple times, quite quite forced upon me, I

(40:47):
might add, they are exceptionally real, exceptionally vivid, like you
are there. It's it's not even a dream like I
wonder what's going on or I don't can't make out
this or that or their faces. So you're there, you're
experiencing it, you're feeling it, yes, Uh, And like I said,

(41:12):
I've had that happen to me a couple of times now.
But I don't, like I said, I I wanted to
be the future, my future, but I know that in
other dimensions stuff like that, that stuff has has actually happened

(41:32):
to other means, which irritates me more than I can
possibly convey.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
What it could be fears as well, you know, depending
on what's going on. I say, you don't know what
it's really hearing of the part of this part of
the story, but you don't know if it's fear based
on her part as well. She's fearful and that's coming
through in a dream right exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I just don't think that this is a premonition. Uh.
I think it's meant to be some sort of medical
medical it's either another memory from another U which unfortunately
had to endure, or uh, it's it's yeah, it's just
a medical medical metaphorical metaphorical. I keep wanting to say medical,

(42:18):
and I'm like, no, not not what I'm doing not
trying to say. But yeah, So I think that's that's it,
all right. Moving on thirty three got attacked by an
endity yesterday. I live in an older house in which
the people who built it died in never had anything

(42:40):
crazy happen except doors closing, knocks, things like that, up
until yesterday. It was around one or two in the
afternoon and I was walking down the stairs and I
usually stop and look back up when I get to
the bottom, but I didn't, and I'd have thought that
it may be bad luck or something, but ignored it.
As I reached the bottom, I heard incredibly loud footsteps

(43:02):
running down the stairs and through the hallway at me.
I ran towards the door, and as I got as
I get to opening it, I was pushed back by
an unseen force, very aggressively, knocking me to the ground,
causing my chest to hurt. Ever since, considering nothing like
this has ever occurred, I'm rather concerned. I'm very careful

(43:24):
about what I bring back into my home. But it
also seems unlikely that the spirit of the owners would
do that, And if they did, why now and what
caused the sudden aggression. Update on the past few days.
First off, I'm Native American and very spiritually aware, so
I can handle myself. Excuse me. Second, nothing too serious

(43:49):
has occurred over the last few days. However, there is
an increasingly dark presence that seems to follow me around,
but more stalking than following. I've realized I'm dealing with
something dark, but it's a coward, so he won't face
me a head on, but rather play stupid mind games.
So I did some sacred things, and it has been
removed from my home, and the spirits of the owners

(44:10):
are alone again. This is this is just weird because
I have as I'm reading this, I have like a
what's going on in my end? You know? And and
and nothing. Even though I know you said it was

(44:33):
aggressive and it pushed you together, it doesn't mean that
that was the intent behind it. I mean, typically, if
somebody's running really loud down the stairs and down the hallway,
it's get out of my way. I need to move,
I need to go. You know what, what what part
of you know? Which one of us hasn't done that before?
Like you're you're in a very big hurry for whatever reason,

(44:54):
somebody is in your way. You need to push them
to this eye because you need to go. It doesn't
mean that they're evil. It doesn't mean that there's anything
bad happening. It doesn't mean that they are attacking you.
It just means that you were in their way and
they needed you to move. And I've often been the
proponent that spirits don't often know what their energy is

(45:18):
going to do or how to control how much they use.
You know, Dave and I have talked several times over
over the years about you know, people who are getting
scratched like on their shoulders or something like that. You know,
who's to say that that was what the intent was.
Maybe they just wanted to tap you on the shoulder
and use too much energy. We don't know how that.

(45:42):
We don't know how that works. You might see it,
but I don't. As an investigator. I mean, it's something
that we need to It's something that we need to
look into and see if we can find some rational
explanation for it. But that it's going to take equipment
that has not been invented yet and experimenting that has

(46:03):
not even been thought up.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
That's equipment paid to tell you that, and also say
what they have equipment that can can see that, that can
feel it. Everything is energy, frequency vibration is frequency meters,
and that's how they can detect a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Well, yeah, they can detect the energy, but they can't
detect the intent they what I mean by we need
to look into that to figure out whether it's where
it's the correlation between energy and intent. Can people canned
spirits accidentally scratch people if they only mean to, you know,
touch them on the back or get their attention? You know?

(46:43):
Is that a lack of control, the lack of like
experience and knowledge from the spirit in order to you know,
like interact with with our plane.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Okay, and yes that's have you ever seen the movie
Ghost with Patrick Swaycy. Yes, he had to learn learn
how to control and how to be able to touch it. Yes,
answer your questions.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And so I mean, who's to say, like when he's
lifting the penny, you know, up the door or whatever
and just kind of floating there, maybe he uses too
much and it goes through Demi Moore's skull.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Right, because it's the emotion behind it. So if he's
you know, if he's in a panic or something, they
don't realize it and they just yes.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
What I'm saying. And so that's what I was saying.
When with the whole research thing, we had to learn
the correlation between the two. Anyways, getting off topic here,
so uh where was I? Oh? Right, But then you're like,
now everything is dark and you're Native American. You did

(47:45):
some rituals and now it's good. Like I don't, I
I I guess I don't understand why. Like I'm almost
thinking that you created this dark presence yourself, Like you
got unnerved by whatever the running down the stairs was
and now like you psyche yourself out. You're like, oh, well,

(48:05):
now there's something attacking me and it's aggressive, and oh God,
must have this dark presence around me. I I just
I don't. I don't think that that was actually what
was going on. But if you feel better and you
think that the old homeowners are still there and and
they're they're happy and they're coexisting with you, I got

(48:27):
another more to say, because that's the most important thing.
As long as you feel like you are safe in
your home, that there's no longer some dark entity, and
you know, you allow the former homeowners to continue living
there as I'm sure they want to be all the
power to you. Have it, have at it, had it.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Okay. The mind is a powerful thing. It can create
m correct And him even said it in there, you
know he watched on the stairs he usually looks back
up and then he goes and he didn't do it
this time, so he automatically thought, you know, and I
don't know that could have been you know, is that
bad luck? And so yes, you create that, allowing that in.

(49:12):
Because everything we verbalize and think, our frequencies that we
put out to the universe and we create. It doesn't
matter what it is we create. It's whatever we focus
our energy on. We create, whether it's a fear, whether
it's good bad it we create. We create whatever's in
front of us. It's the only way that exists. And
so yes created it, thinking that's going to you know,

(49:32):
it was a bad luck to not look back up
the stairs, and all of a sudden this happened. It
hadn't happened in years, and all of a sudden this happens. Yes,
so the one time, then he's a very good manifesture.
He created that immediately and it happened, or he just
allowed it in thinking that then it allowed it in.
There's two different ways of looking at it, because once

(49:53):
you believe in it, it happens as well. Because if
you don't believe things can't happen, it's it's again opening
the door and allowing things in. So he just started believing.
It's like, oh, what great bad luck. Now boom is
going to happen because you're believing it, you're allowing it in.
And then when he did the ritual, he believed that

(50:15):
it was going to get rid of the negative entity,
and it got rid of it. It's a belief system,
it's all that's. Yeah, that's not what happens.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It's new. As long as we've had we've had several
stories where it's like I did this and now I
feel better and everything is gone, and they're like, well, yeah,
that's because you did something that made you feel calmer
and therefore is not affecting you anymore. So and honestly,

(50:46):
there there's I wonder how much of the paranormal is
placebo effect.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Because people want it so sometimes some people want it
so bad that they create it. Yes, if it's oh yeah,
a lot of it. But that's why you have people
come in, you know, investerators come in and see what
is it, and that's how you find out, you know,
is there actual paranormal activity that's legit or or you know,
or you can tear it apart and going no this

(51:18):
is why I see look a look, this, this and this, No,
you know, and that's what everything's energy, the frequency energy
for you know, vibration, that's everything is. Whether it's from
the you know, imagination or creating it, we.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Create it, all right. I don't want to say about that,
but I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Obviously I'm terrible and manifesting. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Now you're good at manifesting. Its focused on the wrong things.
Start with the emotion. We talked about this before. You
have to start the right emotion. You have to be
in the right frame of mind when you're creating in
order for the outcome that you want to happen.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Moving on, Moving on story four. I've got I've got
a paranormal question. I have come to the conclusion that
I have one or more spirits in my house. The
one that I have had several interactions with seems to
be protective and positive spirit that has tried to confront
confront me on several occasions. However, oh, I'm sorry, it

(52:20):
has comfort me. Tried to comfort me on several occasions. However,
I had a question about something regarding the activity. Every
time I am talking about the spirits or referencing them
out loud in conversation. They will do something to let
me know they are present, such as are is there

(52:42):
a presence? A knock, footsteps or touch? Is this normal
for spirits? I don't know too much about them, but
is common for them to present themselves if they are
talking about them with someone. Any answers you guys could
have greatly appreciated. Yes, answer the question is yes. Of
course you're talking to them, they're going to respond in

(53:02):
that's is how you know when they do par normal investigations.
You're talking to them, and a lot sometimes you end
up getting it through your equipment that you're going to
get a response, because then everybody can you know they're
not going to react as that. But yes, if you've
got to already interacting with them and then you're asking questions,
they're going to react and say yes, I'm here, not

(53:23):
whatever you would like them to do, and all of
the questions, They're going to do it because you already
have been interacting with them, so they're going to respond.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
You make it sound like that's like a guaranteed thing,
and I can tell you as an invest here, it's
a guaranteed thing.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
No, no, no, But he's already saying he's already been interacting
with them.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Well, he's he's he's pretty much just saying that anytime
he talks about them, not to them, but about them
to like other people, like, they do something to show
that they're there, and he's asking if that is normal,
to let me.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Know that they are there. This is every time I'm
talking about the spirits or referencing them out loud in conversation,
they will do something to let me know they are present,
such as.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Be being a presence.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Being a presence, a knock, footsteps, or touch.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah. So I don't think he's investigating them like I would,
but I'm.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Not saying he is. But he's already been interacting with
them previously. Probably he has a relationship with them, so
of course they're going to respond to him.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Right, But he's not asking them to do anything. No,
It's like me. It's like me having a conversation about
my dad and we're sharing a story or something like that,
and all of a sudden, like you know, my glasses
lift up and drop or something like that. I didn't
ask for that, but he did it because we were

(54:55):
talking about him, and I think that that's that's the
question he's asking. Is that normal? Oh yeah, just.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Because he's sort of established a relationship with them and
he talks. But they also like to be known he
has such a relationship with him. It's more like I'm here.
You know, you're talking about me, but I'm right here,
and so they do it. They like their presence. No, normal, No,
because he's just developed a relationship with a good relationship
with him, and so they alway respond to him and

(55:24):
talk like they're in a conversation with him, you know.
They don't like, I'm not a third person here, I'm
in with the conversation. So they're just making their presence
stone as you're talking about them. Yeah, but other people
know because they don't have a relationship with their spirits
or you know.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And I think for this specific case, I think it's
also one of those that are trying to back them up. Yeah,
because I mean, how many how many people you know
talk about the spirits in their house and everybody is
just like whatever, it's this or it's that they try
to debunk it, or they think it's weird. Well, I mean,

(55:59):
how good is it to be like, yeah, you know,
I have spirits in my house or whatever, and all
of a sudden, you know, like refrigerator door opens and shuts.
It's them confirming that he's telling the truth. They are there. Yes,
it is that normal. No, is it awesome? Yes? We

(56:20):
I have not encountered that, like nearly never. But there
is a place where where my team and I are
going in a scene as well. It's right. Well, I
mean I invited you even before you join a team.
But in almost a month we are going to the

(56:42):
Wabashaw Street Caves in Saint Paul, Minnesota, where I have
like we have residual spirits or residual haunts, we have
intelligent haunts, like I've called these guys genius haunts because
they have such a knowledge control where they can do
whatever they want. They can manipulate anything they want, anytime

(57:05):
they want. And I was literally I was there at
the time. I was talking with the owner during my
original tour, standing in like the lobby which then opens
up into like this eating kind of area, and it's
got like the circular LCD lights along along the ceiling,

(57:28):
and we're talking about them, and she's telling me this
case about or this time when a picture of theirs
was stolen off the wall and she asked, somebody asked.
This was like a couple months later or something like,
somebody asked to have it back or wanted it back,

(57:49):
and then the lo and behold, like either later that
day or the next day, they found it in a
homeless guy's like stuff who was hanging out outside the property.
And she was telling me this story, and all of
a sudden, one of the LCDs started to started to
go off and off, just one you know, they're all

(58:11):
on the same serve. Well, just one of them started
to go off and on, off and on. And I pointed,
I'm like, does that ever happen? And she goes, that
has literally never happened before, and I'm like, yeah, but
that's that's things that they will do when they are
perfectly comfortable where they are. They know they're not going
to be removed if they reveal themselves, and they have

(58:35):
that type of relationship, as you said, they will do whatever. Yes,
I made the mistake, apparently, according to Scott, trying trying
to get trying to give them rules.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Oh they be told what to do.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Well, it's not even for them, it's for us. It
was my safety rules, you know, like, hey, you can't
come home with us, and you can't you can't touch
or harm us. You know, it's just and that was it.
It's just to keep us safe. But apparently, according to Scott,
they were aggravated by me because it's like, of course
we're not going to follow you home, you dumb ass.

(59:10):
And of course we know.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
We're staying here. We like this, we're hanging out here.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, and it was like, of course we're not going
to harm you, you know, you dick. So when we
go back, I'm just gonna be like, I'm gonna apologize,
and I'm just gonna be like, I know, you know
how to be human beings. Let's let's just have let's
just have a good time. So I'm thinking that the
one coming up here in the tenth for a tenth anniversary.

(59:38):
I think it should be very fun, very much looking
forward to that. And of course, uh be able to
use the new trailer. Yes, so excited. Yes, No, no,
they're not. It's just little stuff and right now it's

(01:00:00):
it's almost more technology than it is, Like the trailer
itself is done like that. Now it's just kind of
speaking this and I gotta figure out how to get
this to work properly with it and and stuff like that.
So but yeah, it's it's good to go. So yeah,

(01:00:23):
and like I said, I know I promised this many
many times. I'm hoping one maybe next week I will
actually have like a good, you know, three four minute
video to play here on the show, which you'll have
to obviously look at the video version of it to
do it, but a tour of it for for people
to to well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
You super live tell people that did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I did, but the live was such a crap fest
because of that, because of the generator.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
It was very low.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, and uh, I mean now that that's we're working.
We're finishing that up up and he's he's made it
so I can't actually run everything and he's making so
I can run the blue lights as well off off
just being plugged. So I'll be doing that so I'll
be able to do this new video with better camera

(01:01:18):
than the cell phone, better audio, and there won't be
the generator. So well, it's now sitting back downstairs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
So that's my white chair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well, too bad that that that was because we had
everybody there, and I doubt that that will really happen again,
except for probably the march.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I had my white chair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Though, yeah, you didn't even know what it was. Who
gets the white chair? What's the white chair doing here?
And I was, I was like, where's my white chair?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Know you? That's how you present it and seeing it
half the way because.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
You're light workers to everybody except for that's how you
introduced it anyways. All right, So that was my That
was my answer re already that. Did you have anything
to add to that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
No, okay, all right, so wow, look at that. I
had my big announcement and all the stories for the week,
and we're still right on time. I think that, by
the way, in the original eighty one hundred and seventy
three episodes, I don't think I laugh like that ever.

(01:02:35):
So feel safe, So feel safe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
So all right, I don't know, excuse me, I don't
know exactly how to describe or like start to move
into what we are going, what we were, what we
were talking about. So I had an idea for a

(01:03:04):
show because I have a lot of unanswered questions. Shock
upon shock, I know. But you have told me many
many times, and you've mentioned it many many times about
the whole you know, good versus evil fight and and
war that is going on. I've read books that do

(01:03:25):
mention and talk about it. And it's not that I
didn't believe it. I believe it's just it wasn't prominent,
like it wasn't showing it's it wasn't rearing its ugly head,
you know, around me. So I didn't. I focused on
other things. But I've noticed, and this is what brought

(01:03:47):
the thing, and almost right along with what you were talking,
what you wanted to talk about. So I'll just put
this in context and then I'll let you take over
for your part of it. But I've noticed a lot recently,
in the last month month and a half. I have
a lot of paranormal people on my friend's page. I

(01:04:08):
don't I don't even know like eighty percent of them,
but you know, they're mutual. We have mutual friends or
you know, we're friends with like celebrities and stuff, and
so you know, we're just one big community. But I
don't know any of them, but I still see their
posts obviously, and you know, person A knows C, D

(01:04:29):
F and G you know, personally, so they's there. Anyway,
long story short, I started to notice a lot of
death and a lot of sickness when it comes to
people in the paranormal. I mean, now we even have
I was talking about Stan from the Web Network and

(01:04:50):
now I don't know what's wrong with him, but I mean,
now it's to the point where it's like prayers are needed.
But I keep seeing almost almost every day. And I'm
not on Facebook that often, maybe once or twice a
day for a couple a minute or two. Uh, I
check my Facebook dating to make sure nobody is interested
in me still, But but I keep seeing like we

(01:05:19):
lost another one today, and you know they'll day the person.
You know, you'll be missed and you know, I'm gonna
miss your brother, you know that kind of stuff. And
if it's not that, it's pictures of this person's in
the paranormal that you know, got diagnosed with a brain
tumor and like or you know, stuff like that and

(01:05:40):
got had to go to go into surgery. And I'm
I've never seen it this much or this often, and
it's always seems to be paranormal people. I mean, I've
got a lot of people and that have nothing to
do with the paranormal, and like they are never sick,
or if they are, it's the cold, or you know,
the or maybe they got COVID or something like that

(01:06:02):
in our home for four days. It just seems with
the paranormal people, it's so much more extreme, and so
that got my attention. Okay, you know, every every time
I see it, I'm just like, is this is this
the the evil part of this war getting winning? You know?

(01:06:29):
Are they? Are they the reason behind this as opposed
to just general nature. And so with that said, I'm
gonna turn it over to you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Okay, The reason you're seeing more paranormals because you're friends
with more paranormal but it's also everything's energy, frequency, vibration.
They're intensifying the frequencies, and so the music and stuff
that they're listening to is affecting the frequencies and their
human body. That's causing problems. And this is period. The

(01:07:00):
war that we're having, we're having on both sides. We're
having on the human side and we have it on
the spiritual side. So what Michael talking about is we're
fighting on the other side as far as good against evil,
the God against devil, and so we're the warriors. But
down here on the human level. They're trying. The devil

(01:07:23):
sends his minions in to get us off of our
spiritual path because he knows we're more vulnerable at a
human level versus a spiritual level. So if he can
attack us here and get us off our path or
distract us on the human level, then we can't help
on the other side on the battlefield because we're distracted,
and that's how he's trying to take us out. So
that's what Michael, if anyone's wanted to know, that's what
they're talking about. We are fighting a battle, but we're

(01:07:46):
also fighting one on a human level. As far as
they're trying the government, it's the frequencies they're messing trying
to mess up our body. Our body vibrates at a
certain frequency, and so they're trying to get the equipment
you use. You know, your phones, even your all of
your paranormal investigation equipment is affecting the body. And that's

(01:08:08):
why a lot of them are coming down with sicknesses
now because it's actually affecting the human body with the
frequencies of the equipment they're using. As you're seeing that
more often, so please be careful of the equipment that
they're using. They really need to get back when if
they're going to be around a lot of the frequency
equipment that's coming off within the vibrations that's going to

(01:08:30):
cause havoc to the human body itself, they need to
go and clear themselves afterwards. And this is what's happening
because that's what you're you're you're hearing a lot about
well careful with your if you're doing headsets or you know, telephones, uh,
wireless headsets, you know, anything like that is affecting the

(01:08:51):
human body because it's throwing your your frequencies off and
that's what's causing a lot of the brain and the
human death are illnesses because they're out of whack. And
so this is why this is going on and people
don't realize it, but this is the other warfare because
now they've hit COVID, they've hit the water, they've hit

(01:09:13):
the air, they've hit the land, and so that's why
they are now affecting the frequencies in you know, anything
that you listen to, you know it's going to it's
going to affect that and that we were warned. You
get warned about certain frequencies. And so that's why they're
getting affected now because they're they're not clearing themselves after

(01:09:36):
they're using their equipment, and it's causing havoc with their body.
Now it's affecting their frequency and so it's causing sickness.
But the other metellity. The other thing though, this is
the other thing that people don't understand. Your body. We
talked about this. I think believe in another episode your
body is a battery. Go outside and I know it's cold.

(01:09:57):
I actually had a client yesterday, go outside without shoes
and go round. When you get back connected back into Earth,
you're plugged in again and your body literally heals itself.
And I know it sounds funny, but no, you're part
of a human Your human meat suit needs that element.
It's a connection to Earth and all the elements. You

(01:10:19):
have to have the sun for your vitamin D. You
have to have the earth. You know, the air to breathe.
You have to have the Earth to connect into to
have your circuit plugged into so it can heal itself.
People are cutting themselves off of human elements that are
needed for the body to heal, and this is the
biggest problem. People need to go outside without shoes on

(01:10:40):
and connect to earth. There's reason why you know we
have tree huggers because that is grounding. We need that
is to heal the body. And this is also what
they can do when you're out there and you're doing investigations.
But then make sure you ground afterwards, clear that stuff up,
gets yourself back into tune. But plug in and clear
out all that negative they're trying to throw off your frequencies,

(01:11:04):
up your body.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I the smirk you see in my in the light
chuckle nothing to new with what you were saying. But
as soon as you started talking about ground I immediately
went to I don't need to do that. I just
need to buy the grounding mat. Okay, being sarcastic, I
know you don't have a sense of humor, so I'm

(01:11:27):
gonna I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Explaining that it's I'm laughing. I'm laughing. You know that's
not good. Get your body outside. This is another thing
they're trying to cut you off outside. I've heard this
is the fourth time I've heard this within the last
two weeks, about a grounding mat, and they're trying to
cut you off from outside elements by buying a grounding mat.
You need to be outside now, a sleep on a

(01:11:50):
grounding mat and plug yourself into the electricity that's in
your wall. I mean, but you need to be outside.
They're just trying to cut you off again. Oh, just
buy this grown to mat. You don't have to go outside,
Yes you do. You need that sun for vitamin D,
you need eric tip freeze. You need to be connected
into the earth, be plugged in so your body can

(01:12:11):
littly heal itself without shoes on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I can't go a day now without, you know, scrolling
through Facebook and not seeing an ad for a grounding mat. Now,
so your fault on that one, because I didn't know
that they existed until until you brought it up. But
but now I think I'm going to use that. I'm

(01:12:37):
going to buy one and put it in the corner
of the trailer. Okay, and anytime one of my investigators
screws up, like go stand on the grounding mat and
that'll that'll that'll be like the punishment corner. It'll be
the punishment mat.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
But but I'm gonna say, Okay, the reason that works
because people believe it's going to work. It's been proven,
but it's just people. It's so frustrating to me I
mean the vets, the retirement homes, you know, the insistant living.
Get them outside and get their feet on the ground

(01:13:17):
without shoes, leather soles, you know, anything's not rubber. Fine,
rubber is what cuts off here, so you can't have flow.
That's the first thing that government introduced us to way
back in believe. It's the forehe when you sort of
have cartoons with color. Cartoon literally you'll see it if
you can go back on YouTube. It has it. Literally

(01:13:38):
it showed one of them where they started introducing shoes
with rubber soles for running. Oh, it's more comfortable. People
were like, oh cool, not realizing that the government literally
just puts something on their feet to cut their source
off to heal. And that's why they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
And now this is a conspiracy theory show.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
No, this is this is beg years ago. This is
a cartoon and yeah everything yeah, everything I'm talking about conspiracy. Yes,
so there is fact. I guess said. People, do your research.
I can tell you everything. Do your research.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
No, absolutely, I want to ever stand with you, like
I know this is completely goes against like my own
self interest here, but I know it's really easy to
listen to like myself and Dave and seeing to tell
you everything, but you don't. You shouldn't. We're not trying

(01:14:32):
to trick you or anything. We're doing the best that
we can in order to get out the proper information.
But do your own do your own research, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
It's out there. It's out there. It's not just what
I'm getting from source. Just like Dave said, as soon
as you talked about the grounding mess he kept seeing them. No,
all the information is out there. You can even google it.
It shows up and then you start seeing it. But
I'm going to tell you a lot of the movies
are telling you this. It's not just the movie. A
lot of the movies literally weird Al Yankovic actually has

(01:15:06):
it on his videos a lot of the stuff. Seriously,
they don't know what's going on. The movie producers know
what's going on. They're trying to get it out there
through their movies. The artists, the music artists, I know
about this, so they're trying to put that out there
in their videos. There's it's all out there, people, and
you don't have to do much research to find it.
It's there right in front of you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
So Taylor Swift is right and true love.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Timmy started on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Well, you've brought it up, so it's your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yeah, I can't see this one's that would. She's too
well liked, so I have to be careful in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
You think if we say something negativebout Taylor Swift and
like all the Swifties will just come against us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
No, I just I'm just careful. I pick and choot
my battles.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I see, it's okay to not be a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Oh, I'm definitely not a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
That's all I gotta say.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
That's perfectly fine. I have a lot of very popular
bands that I'm not a fan of. It. It's it's
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Showed her true colors if you know what to look for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
All right, anyways, let's move on before we start Taylor
Swift bashing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I didn't. I just didn't bash her at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
So let me. I don't know if you'll know the
answer to this. Maybe you will, I don't know, But
what is the ultimate goal? And I think I've asked
you this before and maybe I'm just not I'm not

(01:16:57):
accepting of your answer. Uh, because it is it's just
because this is isn't this is just an experiment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Yes, that's an experiment, which is a very minute compared
to the thirteen thousand galaxies that are out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Right, No, I can't do so we're just an experiment,
which means.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
We're not the the Earth is an experiment, the half
human of us. Yes, it's an experiment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Right, So either way, experiments are not important. Like what
is let me let me start here, what is this
experiment supposed to prove?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
There that the human part can evolve and work past
the evil and everything that it has been introduced to,
but get to to where we we work in you know,
and live together in harmony without ego, all the negative
entity stuff and the negative energy, the negative vibration, ego, envy, sadness, frustration, money, power, Right,

(01:18:13):
it's all that's all negative. So it's we have to
move beyond that, that this is final, that this is
not important.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Right, So why is coming to that conclusion or seeing
that it is so important? I mean we we we
don't have a seat on the Galaxy Council. We we
we don't exist anywhere else except for right here. Our
presence in the universe is largely irrelevant to anything.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Okay, we're very isolated. The earth is very isolated because
all the chaos that keeps going on here and we
keep it keeps being repeated.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Right, I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
I get that when hits so many times.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Right, I understand all of that. Let me get to
my question.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Okay, why is it so important then that we succeed
to the point where there is some.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Negative force trying to not to make it so that
this experiment fails and that the good side is like, no,
we want this to succeed. It's just not so.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I mean because somebody, because a higher source, believes in
the humans that they can evolve. It's someone believe and
show that. It's more of a proof like no, watch this,
they can get past this, and they believe in us.
And that's why the light workers you know us in
different highly spiritual beings come here or entities that have

(01:19:47):
come here to help that and show them, yes, they can,
they can move beyond that and they can they can evolve,
and and we're going to help show this because we
believe in them. We don't want them to be literally
non existent. They literally are going to clear them out.
This is the last time, right, So we're here to

(01:20:10):
prove it's like, yes, we want them to live, we
want them to exist, and so we're here to help.
And so that's the main thing. That the main goal
is trying to prove that the humans can exist at
a higher vibration.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Right, otherwise we're just gonna get wiped out, correct, Okay,
so if we exist in such an irrelevant fashion that
they can just wipe us out and then go on
with life or their lives anyway. Again, like you're telling me,

(01:20:48):
you're giving me like their motivation without giving me the why,
Like why is it so important that we evolve that
we exist in the grand scheme of things? I know
why I want us to exist because I'm part of us.
But we don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
We matter to somebody. So if you don't get some
we mane en matter to somebody that's a higher source.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Right, So we matter to one for all intents and purposes, God,
a creator, our creator, our source, you know, whatever whatever
you want, God, source, creator, universe, whatever you want to
call it. Same thing. We mattered this one entity and
he's for whatever reason, not powerful enough, not willing to

(01:21:40):
not whatever. Two stop whatever war is going on? Like
if if the experiment because typically scientists and as our scientists.
Maybe science is different in other parts of the universe. Typically,
if some if somebody doesn't experiment, they're like it's closed off.

(01:22:03):
It's like, let's see if they can evolve on their own.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
No, because this was a creation, so this is something
that exists. And Okay, how I can explain how they're
telling me to explain this. We're somebody's baby. We're somebody's baby,
and they want to prove that their baby can evolve

(01:22:29):
into something beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Right, Okay, I get I get that. Start my microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
That's why it's so important. You don't see the big thing.
I mean, we are all one. We are one literally,
one soul living out all these experiences. I am you,
you are me, And it's that one soul proving that
it can coexist and have raised to a higher vibration
and live in harmony.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Right now, I I get most.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Important to this the one, the maker. I'll get one
human soul that would of all these lives we're living,
it's very important to them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Right, I get that. I just said that. So if
they want to see if we can evolve on our own,
if we can, you know, get rid of all the
kind of negative connotations and be harmonizing people, but sticking
with your parent parenting metaphor what or if you wanted

(01:23:35):
to do. Because we've talked about this before. You know,
it was on Constantine. You know, God is a kid
with an ant farm, you know, but instead of like
letting us just do it on our own, it's like
the neighbor guy from across the way wants to come
in and shine a flashlight in your eyes for like

(01:23:57):
seven hours a day. You know. It's like they're this
evil part or whatever, this force that wants us to
fail is being led in to do this. And that
seems to be completely anti experimental.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
And let's say that you have to be introduced to
negative and positive to see if it can withstand it
and move beyond.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Right. I get the fact that negative shit is going
to happen. That's going to happen, but it's going to
happen naturally like this. This seems to be very very intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Oh yeah, but they're going to get negative influences from
other species, from other dimensions, other galaxies to try to
I mean, the resources on Earth are needed on other
plants from other species, so they're trying to extinct the
humans that can take over the earth. And there's other
things going on as well as this experiment, but it's

(01:25:02):
also we're getting I mean, the human themselves are so
vulnerable because they're just this this weak species, and so
they can get mind controlled. And you know, this is
all an illusion. This is everything that we live right
now is an illusion. Is created from energy and what
we believe it's the matrix, but it can be so
easily manipulated on the human level. And so because this species,

(01:25:27):
you know that the negative ones have found that out,
they'll come in here and can you know the government
will continue to sit there and and try to clear
out all the humans so they can have these resources
improve prove this experiment. You know, can't help, can't you know,
it's just it's not it's not going to work. See

(01:25:48):
keep showing it, and they keep interfering to prove that
it's not going to work. And then they want this,
you know that this earth that's been created, they'll take
it over.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
This what's going on as well, is because we've got
the new Earth and the older split because the Earth
is like done, I'm done. And then you've got the
highly you know, the ones that have been involving continually
and letting go of all that negative. They're going on
the New Earth and then the Old Earth. You've seen
movies on this, it's not just movies. They're trying to
show you what's actually happening. In science fiction movies, they
show you an old Earth and there's pieces of it

(01:26:18):
hanging there. It's only part of an Earth. Because that's
what's happening. They're blowing up the Earth, this living Earth,
and they're blowing it up and she's done. She's like,
I am done. So she's splitting from the Old into
the New. And when this comfinedly completely happens, because all

(01:26:39):
the negative, all the people that are vibrating at a
lower frequency will not move on their zombies. But also
in this negative power hungry or lower vibration, we're going
to end up on the Old Earth. And people ask us, well,
can the new ones? You know, the people in the
New Earth see that, and it's almost like they're creating
the Athens all over where again the love and the

(01:27:02):
light and this is what you know. They know that
they can create by just manifest and focusing on positive things,
and everything happens. It's positive, it's a higher vibration, love
and light, happiness and all this lower vibration is going
to go. They're all splitting from the Old Earth and
the New Earth. Are they going to see the Old
Earth disappear? No, we're not going to see that. Also

(01:27:22):
the split and there's two earths. No, you're not going
to see it. It's just going to happen, and then
the Old Earth will eventually literally like non exist.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Right, So like four million, four billion people just suddenly disappear.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Well, part of them, I mean, like I said, it's
just it's it's the the higher vibrations will go on
one and the lower vibrations that cannot will not choose.
They just choose to stay in that eagle and that
power and all it's going to go on to the
other one. So it's not like it's all of them. No,
it's part and part right. That's why it's a great awakening.
It's I wake up and see what's really going on people,
and quit being manipulated your humans taking over. You are

(01:28:00):
highly spiritual beings, so focus on what needs to let
go of all this. You're getting distracted, you know, the
government's constantly distracting you and putting minions in your way.
You know. That's that's you know, the negative enterities. That's
the devil is trying to keep you off of your past.
You don't realize what you are. Once you realize what
you are, also you see what's really going on and

(01:28:22):
what's being affected. You're being fed sugar. This is you know, marshmallows.
It's sugar that is toxic to the human system. That
literally gets in your bones and make something very frail. GMO,
you know what they put in the crops to that
literally is very toxic to the system. You know. It's

(01:28:44):
that's why they say anything naturally eat natural things that
come from the earth, that are natural. That is what
your body needs. Literally. That's but they keep introducing this
easy preservative food, you know, because people are on the
goal and then they have the stress. They keep introducing
to people more and more, keeps breaking down the system.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Seeing you're not even in the same state as when
we started conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
You know, I'm going to be going off in different directions,
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
And if you breathed more, I might have been able
to stop you earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Breathe and that's it to people. Don't breathe, they hold
their breath a lot. That's why they get headaches.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
I'm not even it. No, it's not even going to
touch that statement at all.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Well, people, slow down active, You need to be active.
Get you outside, connect, connect to the earth, breathe, then
the elements bree then the sun become one with the sun,
become one with the elements, and plug in. Don't get
so distracted. Don't get it stuck in your head.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
That's all human, right, So I'm trying to get out
of my head here, but you're not making it easy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Try at least words.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Say what oh yeah, well not but.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
When we try things, it's just like we have asked
two things.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Yeah, I don't have that's anything. But that's okay, except
maybe the beginning episodes of the show. But so I'm
gonna go back like that's amazing. I'm sorry that was

(01:30:30):
And I don't know if anybody could hear what what
what she just said? But I didn't even say her name,
so there's no reason for her to come on. But
all of a sudden, she's just like, I'm sorry, I
don't know how to help you with that wonderful I agree,
so she can no, nobody can help us. So I'm

(01:30:55):
going to go back like ten minutes from from the
start of when you started talking. So here's my issue,
and you know I have a lot of them, because
none none of this should make sense at all. It's
so asked backwards and is missing any sort of logic

(01:31:18):
or intelligence to it whatsoever, which is why I can't
like Dave and the whole past, present, the future that
I can't wrap my head around it. So I want
to go back to the parent metaphor again, because I
even if they wanted something intentionally bad to happen and

(01:31:39):
they let something in, they let somebody in from another dimension,
they didn't do anything about it. Something bad happened, blah
blah blah. And I'm talking like bad things, not so
much like I got a speeding ticket or I drank
too much. Pat not that that's not what I'm talking about,
because we're going to do that to the end of

(01:32:01):
time or until we're you know, blown up. But it
seems to me, in a grand scale of things, we
have this parent who has this baby, and if you
want to use the parent metaphor, a good parent takes
care of the child and protects the child. We're not
being protected we're being thrown into the fire to see

(01:32:23):
how we react. It's like, I'm gonna go back to
the neighbor thing. It's like a parent inviting the neighbor
over to kick the kid down the stairs, and then
when the kid reacts negatively, there the kid is the
one at fault because he didn't You didn't react like
you should. He shouldn't have been positive about it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Okay, I'm not done yet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I'm not done yet. Sah No, I just don't want
to be interrupted. I'm trying, especially since I know it,
especially since I know once you start talking, you're not
going to start. You're not going to stop for like
fifteen minutes, so we'll get I want to finish. But anyway,

(01:33:10):
so we're and then we're being like, we're failing this
experiment because the different stuff that you guys are throwing
in at us, both good and bad, are now being
used to like be against us instead of just letting
us be like, we can do shit on our own.
We don't need outside influences for us to do stupid shit.

(01:33:35):
We don't need really positive influences to know what kindness
is or to be generous. We can do that on
our own. That is the whole point of evolution is
to do it on our own. And yet for some reason,
this all seeing God or whatever is just being like, Okay,
well you can come in from another dimension. I'm not

(01:33:56):
going to do anything about Let's see what you do.
And then you know, they start poking at us and
we react negatively, and then something good comes in and
they're like, okay, you can come in and you can
throw out some peace and love and harmony and light
workers and blah blah blah, and we'll see how they
react to that. That's all external stimuli instead of just

(01:34:18):
leaving us alone to do our shit by ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Because it can't evolve without interferences.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
That is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
No, if you leave something alone, it can't evolve. That
has outside influences. That is, if you're gonna go back
to the metaphor a child, you have dad in order
to help.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
A girl correct, No need a mom and dad.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Well, you need outside influences to help a girl correct.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
But we can influence each other. We don't need Well,
this is what I'm not talking about. We can't. I'm
talking about we can't. We can because we have each other.
Like you said, we are the entity. We are all
won and we we can do it on our own.
I don't. It's not some evil you know, force or

(01:35:08):
whatever that cuts me off and ruins my day in
the middle, you know, on my way to work. It's
another human or another highly spiritual being, whatever you want
to call. We can have both the negative influences on ourselves, right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
But we can't evolve, which is the human part. We
have to have outside influences to show us what we
really are, which to evolve.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Yeah, I agree with that whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
And that's why there's good and bad coming in because
we will have good and bad influences, but we have
choice just to figure out what's good and what's bad.
And this is how that's also part of the experiment.
We have to know that there is free, free will
and choice and that will make the right choice. This
is part of it. So we also have we're evolving

(01:35:56):
by you know, the influences that we're getting from high sources.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Okay, let's say for the sake of argument, that's all
that's correct. So because this just came into my head,
which is why I'm gonna move on to this, which
is still the same topic. But you know you always
talk about and I know I do too because I'm
a big, big fan of symmetry. Balance. So do we

(01:36:25):
have that for for every negative influence that comes in?
Do we then get a positive one? Or is it negative? Negative? Negative?
And then once it gets too much then something positive
comes in? Is it balanced?

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
It's not balanced?

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Okay? So why not? And how we're if we if
we have seventy five negative and twenty five percent positive,
how is it not a guaranteed outcome that we are
going to at some point in time go down the
negative path Because that's all almost all that we are

(01:37:05):
exposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
If you are exposed to a balance of things negative
and positive, then but we don't get it, we get
depending on there are lessons that we sign up for.
Some people come in with I mean horrific, horrific lessons

(01:37:29):
and they've got a terrible childhood and that's where you
get the abuse. So no, it's not going to be
a balance. But you also can come out of that
going no, that's not you know, I didn't deserve that.
But you don't have to become that either, And that's
when that's again that's choice. You find out. It's like
that's your learning going okay, you know, and again that's
also karma working itself out from path lives. But you know,

(01:37:53):
lessons you sign up for because when we're here so
many times, then we can create karama the lessons that we
sign up for.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
This this honestly seems to be the generalized, you know,
conversation that's been going on for decades of nature versus nurture.
I mean, if, if, if, if I have had a
horrible childhood, regardless, I don't even care what the reason
for it is, signing up for the ashura whatever, I

(01:38:25):
had a shitty childhood, I'm probably going to be a
shitty person because that, honestly, yeah, because I have. I
have dealt with a lot of people who have had
shitty childhoods, and they are typically shitty people.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Because they choose to be.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
It's I believe, it's unbelievably hard. It is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
It's hard, but there's a lot of very abused individuals
that commodical. Oh hell no, I'm not going to be
like that. I've grown up like that, and I don't
believe that's not what I am. I had to go
through that because that's what I signed up for, but
I will not become I am one of them. That's
how I know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Yeah, I am too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
But you will become that because you grew up with it.
And that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
I'm saying in a general and I get it's just
the whole nature versus nurture thing. And I don't think
we're going to solve that day. A lot of all
the things that be of destroyed. I don't think that's
going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
One right, but it's it. Don't let the human get
in the way. Some people say that they're so toxic
that they're just they're an evil being because they've allowed
that in a evil being has corrupted them and they
have they have allowed it and became it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Maybe that's all they know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
No, because they've Okay, so exorcists, you know, you get
you get little taken over by a negative being. Uh huh, Okay,
that's how a lot of that happens. But we have
we know we have also and sometime in life had
been introduced to love and good and then you choose

(01:40:13):
to take that like no, I like that feeling. I
want to stay there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
See that that was gonna be my next point see,
I get it. If you live for a lot of
years in a really really negative environment and you start
going down that path and then you meet somebody who
is the exact opposite, somebody who's caring, somebody who's generous,
somebody who's kind, and they help you or whatever. I

(01:40:40):
get that, and I know that that happens. But if
that person does not come into their lives and it's
just negative after negative after negative, hurt after heard after hurt,
they're not even gonna know how to be a better
person because they have nothing to emulate. They have nothing

(01:41:02):
to inspire them, nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
That's never going to happen. Because you'll ask you you
will ask for that. You create whatsever in your life,
and if you're asking for something better to happen, it's
going to happen. And so something People cross your path
all the time, whether it's a negative or positive. You
are interacting with people all the time, whether you're isolated
or not, you're going to have the one thing that's

(01:41:28):
still going to have a light to it, that's going
to show you that there is a difference and there
is something good out there. Yeah, I mean, that's all
it's going to take for some people. That's all it takes.
That there's that glimmer of hope, and it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Makes for some people, not all some.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
It's if they allow it and whatever. Again, it's what
you believe. You're creating your own life. So if you're
going to continue thinking that you're going to be always
in a negative environment and be around negative people and
have this horrific, terrible life, then of course that's what
you're going to have, because you are creating that. This

(01:42:07):
is all part of the experiment, is how we can
create out of good and we can create out of bad.
We create our own lives by what we believe.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
What happens when when somebody with more more juice than
you wants to create a life that overrides yours.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
You know only it only can happen if you allow it.
You have to believe what you are people. That's why
it's the great Awakening. You come in here and we
awaken people to help them understand what they really are,
because you're going to have those people that are controlling
and that's what you're probably talking about, this controlling force
and trying to take over this person. And then you're like,

(01:42:56):
you knowly then you feel dominated, and you can't do anything.
You feel very belittle and you know this. You know,
then go down to very little self conscious self confidence
and you know, just like you whatever this person says,
you know, and those are the abusers. But then where
there's people like us like like, oh no, you do
not have to put up with that, and we show

(01:43:17):
them what they need to do and believe in themselves
to start to start empowering themselves. You're talking about a
power and their abilities, and they have to they have
to show them how to empower themselves to overcome that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
So I have met many people in my lifetime where
they have been right, I honestly negative, Like they're good people,
but they do a lot of negative stuff. They have
a negative mentality, they have a negative view of like everything,

(01:43:56):
and I have tried and other people have tried that
I have seen it to show them a positive way,
a positive thing and you know, support and kindness and
love and generosity, and a lot of these people just

(01:44:19):
spit it back in your face because they don't believe
that that that's real, like that's that's not the way
life is again.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Because that's what they believe. So I just said, they
believe that that's how life should be right now, so
that they don't deserve this is this is part of
it where you're seeing a front. These people are angry
because they've been dealt a life and they feel they've
been dealt the shorthand of things, and so they're very angry.

(01:44:54):
And so this is why when we read people, we
see what we're up against. But and you find really
going on with them as well. When you start reading,
it's like where did this come from? It's like why
are they angry? And then you find out where it's
stemmed from and then you work with them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Right, But if somebody has serious trust issues, abandonment issues,
you know whatever, they're not going to share that with
you because they're going to not trust you enough to
do it. And they're going to think that if they
tell you the truth or they tell you that, you're
going to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Some of them. Some of them want to finally believe
in somebody, and you show them that they.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Can, right, and I one agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Okay, this is stuff that people again, what they believe in,
what they are going to low them. They've been beaten
down so bad that they don't feel that they don't deserve,
they're not enough and so that's what they're going to
believe then, but you have to go, you know. And
then they when they cross even path with light workers.
We're put in here for a reason. They're going to

(01:45:57):
cross path with light workers. They're gonna tell them, oh,
you are very powerful being and you have no idea
and this what's going on with you? And they're like,
you know, all of a sudden, stuff starts clicking because now
they're like, I'm done. You know, people get to a
point where they've had enough and they want to fight
back and they're like, no, why do I get you

(01:46:18):
dealt with this? And it can be angry, but it's
going to it's finally they're pulling themselves out of it
and they want help or how do I how do
I get past this? Or how did this happen? So
then we come into their lives and we try and
we help them through this if they allow us, and
we get to this the root of things and we
work through it and then we explain things. You know,
you've had a rough life, Well, this is all the

(01:46:38):
karma that's been created because of all the path lives
that you've had here and what you've created, so you're
working through it this lifetime, and this is how you
work through that. We help them understand things. When people
understand what they're going through, it becomes a whole different
world for them because they have to, as their human
has to understand things. So you're helping them understand why

(01:47:03):
they're going through things, and then it starts making sense
to them. And so when you start making sense, they're going, wow,
this all really does make sense. Now. Sorry, I got
a cat here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
I was gonna say, I want to make two points. One,
Sina is now a pet to a cat. Yeah, sorry,
as you can hear. And two, I came into this.
I came into this conversation or you know, this show
or whatever with this topic thinking that it was for

(01:47:35):
all for all intents and purposes, like angels versus demons,
you know that kind of thing. This is war that's
going on behind the scenes. And now I'm starting to
believe that the war has nothing to do with angels
and demons. It seems to be this war is there
war with ourselves?

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
That's what they want you in your head. They what
happens is because people allow their thinking to control them.
That's the human.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
But that's that's where we love when we hear these
voices in our head that our thinking controls us instead
of us controlling our thinking. That's why it's important to
still the mind. That's why you're going to keep hearing
about meditate, because when you meditate, you steal the mind,
and your mind doesn't control you anymore. You control your mind.

(01:48:26):
You're going to concert you went every time when you
come up to something and you're working on yourself, but
all of a sudden, you get to voices ahead and
saying why do you think you deserve that? Why do
you think you're good enough? That's your mind controlling you.
You stop that, say no, I do deserve this. That's
when you are controlling your mind and it stops it.
That's the human. Don't let the human affect you. You

(01:48:51):
find out what you really are and you push back,
and then you keep working on yourself. But people through
a lot of times in their life, I mean, there's
lessons they've signed up for, but they have to understand
that they are lessons. You know this, You've had a
horrific childhood, But what did you learn from that to

(01:49:12):
stop going outside of yourself for love and love yourself.
It all comes from love. Loving yourself. This is all
the whole everything actually comes from. We have to love
ourselves and each other. You have to love that. So okay,
so again we're going to come back to this one
one soul. Love that soul because that's you in a
different you're living out a different experience. Love that soul. Yeah,

(01:49:37):
it might have you know, been very very mean to you.
Forgive them and move on. It's learning to love yourself
no matter what situation and forgive, but focus on how
you want it to be and don't believe that you
can't have that. You are creating everything.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
I uh, I'm actually gonna find like a really nice
font and print this out and hang it in the
trailer because I honestly believe that. Yes, I did steal
it from Glee for those of you who ah right,
who watched that show, and we'll be like that termly.
But there's a phrase in it that hits me hard

(01:50:20):
all the time every time. Love it and love it
to death, but it hits me hard. And it's the
phrase see the world not as it is, but as
it should be.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Correct bumps mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
So, but I guess the question is how do you
do that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Focus on what you want, know what you don't want. Create.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
I always focus on what I want, seeing it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
With the emotion behind it. Again, you have to be
in the right frame of mind, still your mind, focus
on what you still your mind, go back to a
happy time. You need to be in a higher vibration,
which is love, happiness. So when you're still your mind,
then I want you to go back into a really

(01:51:12):
happy time. If you've had children, the first time, you've
held that your child for the first time, getting the
keys to your first vehicle, moving out of the house
for the first time, you're going on vacation, something that
you wanted to do and you did. It's a very high,
higher vibrating vibration. That's what you want to start in,

(01:51:35):
and then focus on what you want staying in that
in believing that that's the kind of life that you're
supposed to have. You're supposed to be in a higher
vibration love, happiness, and that is it. And create from
there and then know that that's the kind of life
that you're supposed to have and let it come in.

(01:51:57):
A lot of people will sabotage it because of how
they were brought brought up that they they don't they're
not enough, they don't deserve, they're not worthy. Yes you are,
let it come in. You've already created if you thought it,
it's already out there and you've already created it. It's
allowing you. You need to get up to that vibrational
level so it can come in. It's already been created.
If you thought about it and asked for is sitting

(01:52:18):
out there. You just need to align with it to
have it come in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
So every everything that you just said perfectly reasonable, love
every second of it. But as as I'm sure you're aware,
very very much easier to say than to do. And
so without just repeating, this is what you need to

(01:52:44):
do or like in such a broad sense, if you
are a person who wants wants all the happen, the
things that they deserve it, you know, everything that you
had just said. But there's round it by sadness, defeat uh,

(01:53:07):
people who want to tear you down because that's where
they are, you know, the whole misery loves company type thing.
How do you rise above it?

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
For one, get yourself out of that situation if you can,
but have your you know, purge.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
That's the key right there, right there, the emphasis on
if you can.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
If you can, what if you can't? Okay, But so
you're creating by what you think you're supposed to happen.
So everything that's happened already, like being in that negative
environment at work around people, your friends, you've created that.
When you purge your friends, get new friends, you can
you control that, you can, you can get out of that.
But at work, it's you keep thinking that that's the

(01:53:51):
kind of environment you're supposed to be in. So you've
created that. So then you go back and going, Okay,
this is what I keep because you keep thinking in
the past. So what's you okay, son, this is a
it's like watering a plant. Whatever you focus your energy,
and you're going to keep creating. So you keep looking
in the pass saying, well, this is how it is
always when I get to work. But you keep creating that,

(01:54:11):
recreating everything every time you come into work, like, oh,
that's how it's going to because that's your belief. You
keep believing that's how it's going to be. So it
keeps creating that over and over again because that's your belief.
And you can because you are the creator of your world.
You've got the paintbrush, you've got the pencil, and you
are keep thinking like, well, this is how my life's

(01:54:32):
got to be, so I'm going to keep creating that.
Stop thinking that if you don't want that to happen.
Focus on how you want it to be. So what
do you love or like about these people? There's at
least one thing, and what do you how do you
want you know, your your work environment to be you
there's certain coworkers. Oh they're really irritating. Well that's you know,
I mean there's so many things. I mean we only

(01:54:53):
have like four minutes. But I'm just saying it's like
it's a mirroring sometimes about the lesson. You know, you're
working with your dad, and that's a lesson you're supposed
to learn from from your dad. But that's why your
your boss things like your dad is the exact same thing.
You have lessons to learn. But then focus like, no,
this is my life and this is how I want
it to be. I like this about that person, So

(01:55:14):
only focus on that about them. Only focus on the
positives in people and that's the only thing that shows up.
But also focus on how you want your environment. Don't
we create what you don't want, and that's what we
have a habit of doing. It's habits. You have to
break our habits. Focus on only what you want, and
that is it. It's retraining your brain again, it's controlling

(01:55:35):
your brain. So your brain controlling you. How do you
want it? Still your brain, still your mind, so you
have control of it. And then focus on what you
want and that is it. But only focus on the
things that you like about people or like about your work.
That is it. When you start focusing on only positives,
that's all you're creating in your life. And that is it.

(01:55:59):
So how do you want things to be? And let
go of all the negatives. You don't put any energy
on in the negatives because you're like again, you're watering
like a plant and you're recreating it. Then it can
only exist if you give it to energy. If you
don't give it any energy, it cannot exist. So don't
focus on it, don't even give it any thought. Only
like right down, start writing things that you know people

(01:56:19):
at work, writing down beside every one of their names,
only the things that you like or love about those
people and your job. With the only things that you
love or like about your job and then focus literally
keep your focus on that. Only tape it up on
your tape it up on your monitor at work, or
tape it you at work, you know, or anything that's
you know that keeps you in that frame of mind
and only the focusing on the positives that is it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
And let me just say that if while you're doing this,
if you want to double its intensity, you should buy
a grounding mat.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
Now actual, I'm gonna tell you something about frequencies, though.
Start listening to music work of certain frequencies. That's going
to help you. There's certain frequencies that help you with
harm you life four thirty two. Listen to music that
has that frequency your background music. Just listen to that.
It'll help you actually know all it worked because you're
you're so there's so many different negative things that happen

(01:57:17):
at work that it will help you stay in the
positive vibrations, you know, but also help you heal the
things from the past.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
I've gotten away from it over the last year or two.
But I know, I've never even heard of this before
Lauren came on to the team, but she probably still
does listens to what was called lo fi OKAYI lo

(01:57:50):
fi music. What it was that it helped her concentrate,
and honestly I I started listening to it too, and
it's not bad. It's it's it's soothing. Is that what
it is? Maybe it's not lo fi? Yeah, yeah, lo

(01:58:11):
fi hip hop radio. It's pretty much just like music
and stuff. And I don't know if that actually has
a frequent It does have a frequence. I just don't
know what it is. But there's always that if you
want to go on on the YouTube and look up
lo fi low five music, low fi beats or whatever
if you're trying to do it. But yeah, before thirty

(01:58:33):
two the natural enharmonic frequency of the universe, we have
five twenty eight, which is dann hab repair another wrong
with my DNA transformation to miracles. But like six thirty nine,
seven forty one, nine thirty two, nine sixty three, that's

(01:58:53):
your crown chakra. I mean, there are.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
It's used to it. You knows as you're shooting them
if you know what they mean, there's there's Nicholas Tesla
has this in his book about frequencies. Michael Terrell is
one of the biggest ones that I use. Its Whole
Tones and that it's the adult Whole Tones. It's not
the analyst. He's got the animals. But you can go
on his site it's Whole Tones h you know, it's

(01:59:17):
w H O L E tones on one word. And
that's where these frequencies that Michael talking about is you
come up. You know, it don't show up and it
shows what affects what in those frequencies. You know, he's
got a video, but the book he's they got the
book out and I would suggest getting you know, you
can order those and it helps your work environment even

(01:59:38):
at home play them. You'd interrupt, but you want people
to know where they can get those because you're just
coming out with those frequencies and they're like, Okay, how
do I get these frequencies on? How do you know?
So I've had to answer people's questions.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Now you know what it was like when I never
mind I would say it. So, uh, if you would
love to agree or probably disagree with anything Seena had
said today, or if you just have more questions, maybe
you want to set up a reading where can people

(02:00:12):
find you?

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Seen it on my website insightful soul dot com or
they can send me an email readings plural by Sena
dot com. No Gmail, so it's gmail dot.

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
Com readings by Sena at gmail dot com. Correct, So
all hate mails should go to that address on.

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
I've been doing this for close twenty five years, people, so.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
This is not I'm not in it. Uh. If you
would like to send the show a message, maybe you
have a paranormal story or question that you would like
either Dave and I or Seen or I to answer
for you, you can go on to Odyssey files radio dot
com and send it that way, and again look out

(02:01:04):
for the new uh, the Honesty Network. You should be
able to search it on all of your podcasting platforms uh.
E said, I'm going to be doing that too, be
doing that all day today and probably a little bit
throughout the week, depending on how tired I am from work.

(02:01:24):
But yeah, so we should be yeah, uh, the Honesty
Network should be up up and about here here shortly.
But still honestly, files radio dot com is always going
to be the website you can go to find all
of it. So all right, well, thank you seeing it again,
for for.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
Frilling in, for allowing me to come on again.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
We shall see if you are here next week. It
depends on obviously, you know how Dave is doing, and.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Willing and pers to them, because that's all it's not
but something we all want to go through better human
We have to like all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Of that exactly. So all right, well, we'll see you
back here next week. Till then, stay healthy, stay safe.
I want to see you back here. Everyone. We have
a great rest of your weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:02:13):
Great thanks

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