Nancy Quatro Glass: Cradle, The Pleasure Seekers and Stories from the Rock World

Nancy Quatro Glass joins host Chris Cordani on the Outhouse Lounge. Nancy, from the extremely talented Quatro music family, was the lead singer for Cradle, the sisters' newer incarnation of The Pleasure Seekers, with which Nancy played and sang a bit before the switch. We discuss Nancy's time with the band, the people she shared the stage with -- and the iconic rockers who jammed in their Detroit home's garage. We also delve into Nancy's time managing bands and her work on a documentary about her brother, Mike Quatro, who was a great musician and talent manager in his own right. Nancy also tells the Lounge some interesting stories from the rock world, including a high-speed chase in Detroit with Ted Nugent) and offers her thoughts on the industry today.


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Episode Transcript

(00:04):
Welcome to the Outhouse Lounge. Whenwe relax and talk about things, don't
need that new tech. Despite whatthe music and radio industries want you to
know, rock music did exist atsometime, and I mean rock, I
mean good solid rock with people whocould play and groups who could well rock

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with me as someone who was immersedin that world, has played with legendary
groups and has worked on preserving someof the great history of rock and roll.
Welcome to the Outhouse Lounge. NancyQuatri Glass Hi and Nancy, you
were a member of both the pleasureSeekers and Cradle working with your sisters.

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The Quatro is a longtime music family. What was it like. Let's start
with the early years. What wasit like growing up with such influences around
you? Crazy, to put it, really blunt, my really crazy,
amazing, every everything I can thinkof to say it was because the girls

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started pleasure Seekers. I was theyoungest of the family, so I was
only twelve when they were really goingat it. So I didn't I didn't.
I wasn't in the band, butI certainly got to see hear them
practicing. And my brother was alsoin the music business at that point,
so he was he was off doinghis thing with all the Detroit bands,
meaning managing, promoting, putting onrock shows. So what I did was

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I babysat for him. And that'sactually where I met Bob Seeker, Ted
Nugent, all the all the onesthat were really getting a name in Detroit.
And it was a huge pleasure.Seekers was more of like a cover
band, fabulous and did a greatjob. But by the time I was

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ready to join, which was fifteenyears old, I really quit quit high
school. We Susie came down askedme to sing with her, to harmonize
in the basement. I did asong and what she promptly went right up
to my father and asked him ifI quit school, and he looked at
me. It wasn't really quitting schoolbecause I never went anyway. I was

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one of those I school with prisonto me. For me, I was
a free spirit, rebellious blah blahblah. Would like to annoy my teachers
in school. They were they didn'tlike having me in there because they knew
I was going to start some notnot real trouble. I was just pretty
annoying. Yeah, I just Ijust hated it. I felt like I
truly was in prison. So sheasked him and he looked at me and

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he said, and he was amusician. I mean he worked at GM
in the day, but he wasa musician at night. And he asked
me, will this make one vitalquestion? Will this make you happy?
And I said yes, and hesaid, okay. That was it.
Once the next day and quit schooland so I joined to Pleasure Seekers as
the lead singer, and Sez,who was the lead singer, she just

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went to you know, really honingher basscraft. And then we changed the
name to Cradle because music was muchheavier, getting much heavier. You know,
that's cream and led zeppline and blahblah blah. So we changed it
to Cradle our name and that's whenthat's really my journey is more in Cradle

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than Pleasure Seekers. So you startCradle, What was the plan for that?
You guys weren't the same kind ofcover band the Pleasure Seekers were.
I don't think we. I don'tthink we had a plan because back then
music was so all over the placein a good way with the creativity.

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I mean you could go to youcould go to a club or I mean
like Eastown or grandy ball room,and you would have so many different genres
of bands, where now it's likegenre based. If there's a lead rap
band, then the rest that aregoing to be before them are going to
be rap bands. This was bbKing with led Zeppelin. I mean you

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could see across the board different stylesof music. So I don't think Cradle
had a plan at all other thanto create and kind of see where it
would lead us musically. And wedefinitely were led. If you're going to
go buy genre based, we wentfrom We were very esoteric in some ways.

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So we've got real heavy, butwe've got the lighter and just exploring
it was. That was the eraof exploration for music, no doubt about
it, which was good. Butthere weren't a lot of all female bands
at a time. There were basicallynone. And what there really were none

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of was anyone that played hard rack. No, not a lot. A
lot of women were relegated to doingballads and maybe on occasion you had your
outliers like your honey Land Trees andthe Honeycombs, who was an outstanding drummer.
People don't realize how good she wasthere. There's some YouTube footage of
her just jamming. You had DennisJoplin, you had Linda Ronstadt, but

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there wasn't much around, or atleast women weren't allowed to do that.
I'm sure many wanted to. Ifyou were hard rock, like you mentioned
Joplin, you were relegated to beinga singer. But an all female group
that's actually writing their own music thatwas unheard of, and on top of
that, playing their instruments in ahard rock form. I think that just

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I really don't know of any thatwere as hard rock as we were.
I mean, it's what you wouldcall it now. I didn't have a
title for it back then what wewere genre wise, but hard rock is
absolutely what we would have been considerednow probably and now there isn't really such
a thing as hard rock anymore.I'll get into that with you later on,
because that's a whole other set ofa bag of worms that we could

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talk about. Here, let's keepwith what you were doing with Cradle and
talk about how you and your sistersput together some great music. I want
to put some of this in aperspective. First of if you all played
your own instruments, you played aplethora of them. Yeah, let's let's
hear a list. Okay. SoI played bass, piano, cello,

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violin, all all in the bandbecause we had songs that it fit tim
Bally. You know, I dida little of everything to tie you the
truth as it should be, Nancy, you have to play a lot of
instruments if you want to put agreat band together. You would grow up
in a very musical family, soit would turn out that way anyway.
You have your musical parents, yourmusical siblings. A lot of people know

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Susie and your other sisters, butyou had a brother, Mike, who
is also very musical. Very Actually, one of my earliest memories our house
was filled with music. I grewup in a very music filled house.
But one of my earliest memories asmy brother got picked to go to Hollywood
and be on what was then anincredibly popular show of Lawrence Whelkshop and he

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got picked to play piano in thejunior band. So he was on national
TV. And I was five yearsold and we had the black and white
TV and we were all in theden and my dad said, okay,
everyone, you know, don't talkbecause it was about to start. I
didn't know what we were talking whatthey were even telling me to shut up
for. But all of a sudden, my brother comes out to TV and

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I actually made the cut. Isaid, what's Mickey doing in that box
yet? How did he get inthere? But that was my first introduction
to my brother and where he wouldactually head. Because if you're gonna pare
it down, my brother is,without a doubt, the most talented musician

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in the family, and all mysisters would agree with that. You're working
on a documentary about your brother.I'm going to get into that in a
little bit, but let's get backto you as a singer. We'll get
to we get to your brother prettysoon. And this is taken from the
Quatro Rocks website. You were calledthe mover of the group, the sensual
bitch goddess. I say that?Can I say that on the air?

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I'm gonna find out if I getdemonetize. That's what I'm reading this word
for word. YouTube police the focalpoint of every male in the crowd.
That must be nice. When she'ssinging, the microphones grasp firmly in both
hands, lips almost kissing it,feet wide apart, head flung back triumphantly.
In opera fashion. This is reallytraumatic. I like this long brown

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hair flowing down her shoulders. Body. Wow, I need a shot in
a little cold water and let meI'm finished the coat here. Now there
we go, Nancy quetro glasses withme on the outhouse lounge. Let's continue
the quote body never remaining stationary fora minute. That I liked because you

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really can't just stand there and sing. That's not fun. Even during the
instrumental break, she's moving, princing. Can't like back and forth, arms
floating rhythmically from her science pelvis pulsatingwith every beat, moving with the grace
and beauty of a wild beast,stunking it's prey. Wow, that's a

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rave review from nineteen seventy one.Yeah, that guy was. He actually
wrote in with us to some ofour gigs, and I wonder whatever happened
to him actually, but he wasdefinitely into me. That was gonna say,
is he trying to get a datewith you or something? He was
kind of interested. I mean Inever ever lived down the central bitch goddess,

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and I always used to laugh andsay, well, you got the
bitch part right. I don't knowabout the centual, but he would he
was really in love, I mustsay, because yeah, that that followed
me everywhere. I guess he washoping to be the prey you were stunking,
Yes, I guess. So youalso got the calciment a female Robert

(10:13):
Plant. That's a distinct voice.What do you see that? Yes,
I see why that was said.I got compared to heart too. What's
her name, Nancy Wilson. Igot compared to her because people are always
going to compare no matter what youknow. You're trying to get a context
of what someone sounds like if theyhaven't heard you before. So Robert Plant,

(10:35):
yeah, definitely one of them thatI and I do see it.
I had a very I don't haveit anymore, but I had a very
high range. I could go realhigh, and I was operatic trained.
My mom put me in an operawhen I was ten years old for two
years and I did excel at it. And I think because of that,

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I think that's why my range wasridiculous wide and breath control. I could
hold a note so long that Idon't even know how I did it.
I couldn't do it now, butso the opera helped me. It helped
me hold my skill. Interestingly,there were quite a few opera trained singers.

(11:18):
Pat bennettar comes to mind. Thatdoes help. It's it's good to
have a A lot of people say, well, rockers can rock. Don't
realize there's a lot of talent thatgoes into singing, especially in an era,
and the sixties and seventies were thatera where mark rock was advanced musically.
Yes, yeah, no, Iagree. I think people don't realize

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how much work it actually is takesto sing, and how much skill you
really do have to have, andbreath control is probably the biggest part of
it, and where you sing from, because if you sing from your throat,
you're not going to last. Youhave to sing from your diaphragm.
So for a little while there,I was giving singing vocal lessons to I
had some students and I had onethat literally she because I had a whole

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system of how I could do it, and she she get done and just
say, oh my god. Imean I had no idea because it's not
easy. And in my opera trainingclasses there were a couple of times I
actually fainted with my teacher. Yeah, you don't learn any other way.
You have to push yourself to thelimit. Can you do the kill the
Webbit song? That's my favorite operasong. I don't think I could do

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any of it anymore. It's amazinghow when you age, how your voice
changes. Anyway. I know,I don't want to range anymore, but
you do talk through your DANEA framand that's what I have to do.
They trends radio people who do thesame thing. You don't want to You
don't want to hear it. Guytalking like that, Yeah, unless he's
doing voiceovers yea. Or or ifit's Rick D's doing the duck voice for
disco Duck. That's a different storyfor a different day. Right with me

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is Nincy quetro Glass on the outhoundLounge. Both the pleasure seekers in Cradle
became important parts of music history,Nancy. And this was a time before
the Runaways, at the time whenall female bands, as we kind of
touched down before, who played theirown instruments were unheard of. He had
vocal groups those We're cool and Ilove my girl groups. How did some

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of your male counterparts treat you?At the time, most women were singing
the later pop fare and not rockingit out. And I'm not one of
those walkie types, as you know, but women were not exactly respected as
hard runkers at the time, asidefrom as we mentioned, a few outliers.
Yeah, what's funny to me nowis when I look back, I

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personally didn't feel the whole girls aren'tdoing this, girls don't do this.
I didn't feel any of that becausemy parents, my dad especially, never
raised us to think that there wasanything we couldn't do. Ever, so
it was never even in my mindset, you know, that girls don't do
this. It didn't come to mymind until guys started commenting on the fact

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that we were girls like that,Like, we would hear you guys are
really good for girls. Guys aregood, then you want to just punch
someone out, you know, goodfor girls. Okay, it's so condescending,
but that we heard, I'd say, every good we played, we
would hear that you guys are goodfor girls. And since I have to

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be careful what I say, Iwill tell you what my sister. I
could tell you what my sister Pattysaid that Leslie West from Mountain, the
guitar player from Mountain, he wasright there. He was a big fan
of ours, and he was rightthere when this was said in Patty's reply,
and he never forgot it. Heused even when he was being interviewed
on Howard Stern. He brought itup because such a good line. But

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it's the d I c K word. Oh okay, that would be a
tough one. We'll have to usea we'll have to use a euphemism for
that. How about member, asBuddy Hacket say, I'll just say blank.
He the guy said, you guysare really good for girls, and
she said, suck my blank.Oh there you go. Of course you

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make it making in trouble for sayingthat today, especially if you're a female.
Is then they'll be like somebody saying, well, wait a minute,
you hurt my feelings or some kindof alphabet thing or whatever. Oh oh,
that's another thing we can get intofor a different time. But you
have to come back at these peoplefor us saying well, you're you're you're
pretty good at driving for a girl. You're pretty good at playing guitar for

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a girl. I get that.There was no reference really other than comparing
to a male. I get that. So I try to keep things in
balance, and I did even then, but I remember it was like a
wake up call, like, wait, we're good for girls. I didn't
know there was an issue about it, but there was. And even record
labels. I mean, if youeven if we got some look sees from

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record labels, they want you ina short skirt. And we went through
a period of time where we werewearing blue jeans and T shirts, like
trying to not show that we're girlsso much. Then we said forget that
and we started dressing exactly how wewant to dress, whatever that is.
So we forgot the jeans and Tshirts unless you actually wanted to wear it,

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because we thought we found ourselfs startingto cater a little bit too.
You know, well, we wantto play down that we're girls, and
I'm rebellious, so I'm thinking I'mnot playing that down. I am a
girl. I happen to play music, you know, But I don't know,
I just it just never affected me. But you were aware of it

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when it came to label time withyou know, a possible interest from labels,
how they wanted to change you,how they wanted you to look.
And the labels do that to guystoo, they do, and the way
they package men and women to gainit's really disgusting in a lot of ways.
It is. Why wouldn't Why whyare they calling you rockers not feminine?
Why wouldn't a record company wants somebodywho's I'm going to read again,

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whose arms floating rhythmically from her sciencepelvis pulsating with every beat and moving with
the grace of a beauty of awhale beast stuck in its prey. If
that's not feminine and cool for arecord company, I don't know what these
people were thinking. You know what, though, I think record labels are
not very innovative, especially back then. They're not very innovative, and that

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someone didn't have the foresight to seethere is no one like this out there.
This would be the first capitalize onit. But they didn't. That's
what I would have done, becauseI consider myself a talent finder. Would
I would have locked into that that, hey, this is like fresh and
new with there aren't girl rockers.Let's let's go for this. And you

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were out of a scene, theDetroit music scene, which was innovative in
and of itself. It was severalseveral new genres coming out of their most
famously obviously the Detroit Rocket and andthe Motown, which kind of split off
from there. Yeah, why not? Why not get something innovative, like
an all female run band that actuallyrocked, yeah, and didn't look bad.

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We were we weren't unattractive, youknow what I mean. So if
you're gonna go that shallow way,I mean, it was a whole package
to me exactly. But you're alwaysfighting the men and suits, so right
right there. Again a lot ofthese guys are afraid of being fired,
So convention is the way to go. It's not easy. Or maybe taking

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something a little different and pulling itback to convention. That's that's what they
do. Unfortunately, a lot ofregular people miss out on a lot of
great talent that way. I agree, Nancy. Quick question in the Detroit
music scene. I know we talkedabout the how the guys treated you,
but how did the audiences treat youas a as an all female band at

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a Detroit I think, first ofall, what you really have to understand
in that era is everybody was stonedout of their minds, not us.
Yeah, I mean I could gethigh walking into the venue, honest to
god. It was just drugs werea big deal, and the audiences were

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definitely receptive. They were receptive,mostly the men, but I think the
men were receptive and yelling things like, hey, show us your you know,
your your boobs. Yeah, wehad to win them over. Bottom
line, we had to win themover because we were girls. We talked
about your brother a little while ago, you staying for his band. He

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had a booking agency at the timeas well. He had the booking agency.
First, he has quite an interestinglife, but the booking agency was
incredibly successful. He put on lotsof pop festivals. He was the first
one to bring Jimmy Hendricks to thatside of the country. He was kind
of considered the Billy Graham of theEast, you know, but he had

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He put on so many pop festivals, and that's where I really got an
introduction to the bigger band, youknow, because obviously I went to every
one of the shows, all hisshows, but my brothers. He was
a powerful influence on the Detroit musicscene, really powerful. And some of

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the bands actually still write to meand they'll tell me things like, you
know, he's the only one whoactually paid us, and that's important.
A lot of a lot of bandsare ripped off. At the time,
we thought we heard about a lotof things that happened to the motown bands.
I did talk to one of theone of the people from the delp
Phonics, one of the gentlemen fromthe Delphinnocks, who started his own record
company maybe five to ten years backfor the sole purpose of treating artists fairly.

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Yeah, they've been through all thisstuff, So it's good to have
guys like your brother in the inthe industry. You're working. You were
working on a documentary about him,and it sounds like it's an important piece
of video that we all should beseen. Yeah, it's real important to
me. It was what I wouldcall one of my biggest passions and I

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have not finished it and haven't evencome close to finishing it. I had
investors. The real story is it'smy I own it, so it's mine.
And when it's about my family,if it's something that's about my family
which is near and dear to myheart, even if it's got some ugly

(21:33):
stuff in it, you know,not pleasant things in it, it's a
truth, the truth. So Iwanted and only put out there as the
true story. And my brother wascompletely compliant with doing this, and he
knew that it was going to getreal, raw, gritty and dirty,
because his life is real, raw, gritty and dirty and wonderful all at

(21:55):
the same time. So he hadagreed, and I did have him.
We went to Detroit and this wasto be a documentary, nothing to do
with Hollywood, just I wanted toget it done and tell the truth.
It was in some ways therapeutic forme as his sister, because I'm I
was the closest one to him.I was home the longest. I was

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a big part of his life.His life has so much, for lack
of a better word, scandal,so many things that he was a part
of that weren't good, and thenso many that he were good. But
you couldn't write the story. It'sall I'm telling you. You couldn't write
this story. And it really happened. It's real life. So I went

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there and with the film crew andwe did I did the interviewing of my
brother, and then we did allthe location shots, and my investors decided
that they wanted to go to Hollywood, and they wanted to because one of
them had some real you know,he had connections. They wanted it to

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be a movie instead of a documentary, and I said, absolutely not.
That was because I have a lotof integrity and it's mine. So no,
and we talked about it. Isaid, I get because you think
this could really be something. Iget that, but it has to come
out first because I know what Hollywooddoes to reality. Oh yes, you're

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not doing that with my family.And they actually worked, they were close
to getting a deal. Came backand told me that, and I promptly
said, I'm done. I'm done. You can't have it. It's mine,
it's copyrighted, you know, it'sI own it. And I was
done with them because to me,who I'm in Bedwood. They better have

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integrity. And they were going totally. They were seeing the dollar size.
And you know what I told them. I said, if Hollywood, if
this documentary comes out and Hollywood trulywants to make a movie out of it,
I'm not going to care then becauseI already told the truth. They
can ruin it all they like,but I already put out the truth.
It's like that book versus the movie, thing documentary versus the movie. The

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truth is in there somewhere. TheHollywood version, well, it's embellished for
the Maxes will come see it andthey'll be like, Wow, that's incredible.
And there's a few that will checkout the documentary and say, hey,
wait a minute, the movie leftthis out of the movie, didn't
say this. Well, that's nothow it happened. Now I see,
but at least you'll have that there. I really, I really do understand
what you're trying to do, andI know the temptation of making the big

(24:30):
bucks is there, but we alsoknow how pretty how awful Hollywood has been.
Yep, no, thank you.Yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't
trust that. You wouldn't trust theseguys as far as you can throw them.
And I don't think they want togo to Manitoba. No. I
agree. This was so near anddear to my heart and it still is.
And the fact is is my brother'seighty now. So I was in

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a hurry to get moving on thisbecause I'm sorry, the clock's ticking,
and for me it was you know, I got to get this done and
while he's still have sound mine andblah blah blah. And the interviewing.
The process was fabulous and it turnedout incredible. I was real proud of
it. The location, everything,just how the story was unfolding. But

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I had the whole ending. Ihad it all planned out where we were
doing. The ending is so powerfulthat I know that at the end of
the sofally'd like made it to Netflixor whatever I forgotten finished that. I've
gotten really good reviews because it reallywas. It made me want to become
a documentary maker. Actually, thereyou go. The only problem is they'll

(25:38):
be saying, well, Nancy saysall sorts of mean stuff on social media,
we can't put her on Netflix.I could care less and and I
will never care about any of that. But well, you know what that
would do. It give you agood publicity and people want to buy and
see the documentary exactly exactly. Yeah, well, I mean, and it's
a good story. It's not likeit's you know, that's the important part.

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It really is a good story,and it's worth a watch. And
you had the same perspective in alot of ways too, because not only
was your brother a talent AGENTT anda booker, you also managed talent.
I did. I did. I'vealways considered myself a talent finder. If
I could live my life over Iwould have probably definitely gotten into producing,

(26:25):
and I would have moved in adifferent direction. But yeah, I got
bands on national tours, and youknow, one in particular that my heart.
If I'm into it, I'm intoit full throttle. And I was
into this one particular band. Itwas my son's band, and not because

(26:45):
he's my son, because if hesucked, I'd say it and I wouldn't
manage him. But they were,they really were. If yeah, well,
I just I wouldn't lie to mykid and tell him you're great.
If you're not, I would tellthem, maybe you look at a different
field. You know, you're thisisn't your thing. But I knew from
age five he was going to bea drummer. It passed down to Susie's
son. He's a guitar player him. I've heard yeah, I've heard him.

(27:10):
Yeah. And then so the grandchildren, some other grand our kids have
carried on, at least with thetalent part. If they inherited that.
My sister Suzie's daughter Laura sings reallywell, and then my son Michael.
My two girls, they're more artistic, but they're creative. One was more
into acting. Don't speak too loudbecause your family is so talented that somebody

(27:33):
in the government's going to come afteryou and force you all to redistribute that
talent to the rest of us whoare untalented. Yeah. I loved I
loved that whole life, the creativepart of it. And it's weird to
go into the normal sector where you'redoing like normal jobs, even though I

(27:56):
am like right brain, left brain, I'm both. I prefer the creative,
but it's hard to make money creative. I'm with you one that I've
been in radio for a long time. I know the answer to all of
that. Yes, however, you'reagain a talent seeker, So what kind
of talent What do you think wouldmake a good band That Nancy Quatroglass would

(28:19):
say to herself, Hey, letme take this group or this artist under
my wing and bring him to theforefront. That's really hard, because I
will tell you till this day.People send me music on my private messenger
all the time, all the time, and please give this a listen.
I don't even know how they knowto send anything to me, but they

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do, and within probably I don'tknow, not even a full minute of
a song, I'm either turning itoff or I'm just like okay, no,
no, thank you, no,no, no, yeah, that's
mine. I'm sorry that that wasmine. I have apologize for that crap
that I sent you. Oh not, And then I'll have But then something

(29:07):
will maybe make me go three minutesjust to kind of say, okay,
it got me a little bit.But it's almost immediate for me personally.
If a song grabs me instantly,then I really will sit and listen and
then and I'm a weird listener becauseI listen overall, and then I'll go
back and I'll listen so just thesinger. Then I'll listen to just the

(29:30):
guitar player I want to hear.Then I'll dissect what's each instrument doing.
But now it would be I'm definitelymore hard rock. I always have been,
always will be, even though Ilove all genres except rap. I'm
not a rap girl, but there'seven a few rap songs I actually do
like. I think it'd be reallyhard to find what I would call a

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great band coming from the era Icome from today. It'd be hard back
in that era. And you weresaying it was a very discovery type era
performative if you will. With musictoo. You had the luxury of the
FM band at the time. Itwas experimental. It was the alternative to

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the popular AM radio band. Thelonger songs were allowed to be played,
you could make more symphonic rock,and that became very, very popular.
It was the open, the openingand the advent or, the precursor to
the advent of album oriented rock,something we do not see anymore today,

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and I contend we need badly.Yeah, I agree with you. It's
funny because when I was managing myson's band, which is now fifteen years
ago. When I was managing them, I would ask there were quite a
few local bands here in Dallas.We had a very great music scene back
then, and there were I wouldlove talking to the young musicians and asked

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them like who you are influences,just because I got to know them all.
We were always down, you know, with the music scene, and
it was amazing to me almost Iwill actually, I don't think I ever
heard from one of them that didn'tsay my era, not one of them,
Jimmy Hendrick, you know, likethey would name the guitar who their

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actual influences were, so that erainfluenced all music completely. I mean,
just look at what was coming outof there when the who did the rock
opera that made everything back then wasso experimental that some songs were twenty minutes.
Drove me nuts as a singer.I actually did it because I'm standing
on the stage like, okay,are we done jamming? But I mean

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really, as a singer, it'sactually not fun. I need that glass
of water in between. That's whatyou guys should have done, had a
nice glass of water sitting there,just in case you had those fifteen to
twenty minutes songs. DJs. Weplayed those, we call them bathroom songs.
Yeah, this way you play thewhen we had records and CDs,
you played them. You can getup and go to the bathroom and come
back and nobody would ever notice.I just gave away the secret. But

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I'm pretty sure we all figured thatone out. Yeah, and we did
write one we after who did that? We wrote what's called Dream It's on
the Cradle CD. We wrote ourversion of a rock opera and it was
very creative. I personally loved it. We even bought timpanies to have timpanies
in there because we were so experimental. We wanted the uh some in some

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parts orchestra sound. I'm a bigorchestra girl. Well, me too.
I'm an orchestra guy. I likemy I play low brass instruments, so
I listened for any any rock bandwith a breast section makes me happy.
Any orchestra where it's where the music, the classical music is strongly bass oriented.

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Excuse me, a brass oriented again. I'm in yeah. And here's
the thing for me, Like,if you talk about Nowaday's music, I
can maybe count on one hand whoI would say for me personally that I
think are either did one song thatI thought was off the charts incredible,

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Disturbed as one of the people thatI think when they covered Simon and Garfunkels
Sounds of Silence, the video thebecause people hear music with their eyes now
too, you know a video isobviously you listen with your eyes also.
But I can only name not thatmany bands that I would say to me
in this era of music are justextraordinary my era, I don't think.

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I don't think I could think ofthem all. There were so many.
That's because they were allowed to existback then nowadays. And I've contended this
with a bunch of my guests inthe past, so I'm going to throw
it at you today. I believemusic is turned into a science a way
too. Let's say, let upsomebody's endorphins, so they go and dance

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and and shake drinks around and yellwoo on the floor and hopefully buy the
downloads. It's it's no longer albumoriented. I know there are some outliers
out there and you don't see themin the pop charts, or it's a
rare occasion where some kind of sneakthrough. Yeah, but they even take
talented people, wrap them up tolook pretty, sink their range even if

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they have good radios, sink theirrange to a couple of octaves if that,
and keep a few different chords.And I love my I love my
three chord bands. Don't get mewrong, But that was a whole different
story. That was creative and youcan do different things with it back and
then this is all just the fivethree five millennial whoop. A couple of
chords that that spark people's I don'tknow, I guess will to will to

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dance, pick up a drink,and buy a download and that's it.
That's all it is. And theradio you turn it on, pop radio
sounds the same. It's it's it'skind of it's homogenized generic. If you
will, And I have to tellyou, I haven't turned on I have
my CDs in my car. Ihaven't turned on the radio in probably fifteen

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years because there was I know,there's no point. My son, you
know, stays very up on musictoday and he finds very little. Uh
we don't have the same taste,but he's definitely more out there than I.
I'm as far as hearing what thelatest is, I just haven't been

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enticed by anything hardly. I'll makea recommendation to you. I had recently
Josie Cotton on the radio show hereon the Outhouse Lounge Share. We talked
about her new record company, KittenRobot Records. Ever get a chance listen
to Kitten Robot Records. The bandsare, the talent is varied. They
have a lot of the sixties seventiesinfluenced. They have a early they even

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have the B movie soundtrack influence someof them. Others have more of an
eighties influence. But there she foundsome. She has found some real talent
lying around awesome and really there arereal artists like her who were trying to
find good talent and bring him forthe forefront. Unfortunately, the radio and
record industry I call I use recordfor the lack of a term, let's

(36:15):
call it the radio and download industry. We got a radio and down.
And I feel, actually, myheart goes out to musicians today because I
know that there are plenty of themthat are incredibly talented and would really like
to make that be their life.And it's close to impossible anymore, even

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the big bands, the big,big, huge ones when you talk to
them about touring, Like I talkedto Alice. Alice came to town and
I hadn't seen him in forty years, and I've got we've got a oral
history with Alice Cooper and we justwent down. It was after a show,
and we just went down Old Homeweek, you know, because he
wasn't he was a big part ofthe Detroit scene too, And we were

(36:58):
discussing, you know, just evencosts him to go on tour? What
the actual cost is? Now?Why the ticket prices are so high?
And it's insanity. Yeah, Ialways wonder about that. Take the prices
are high, but they don't theythe artists don't get paid by the venue.
No, the artist has to pullin the money in Europe in many

(37:19):
places, and this is what theartists will tell you. In Europe,
they pay the artist, they feedyou, they put you up in some
instances, depending on how big youare, but at least they pay you.
Here you have to pull in thegate. There's it's most like the
economics hurt. Because even you couldsay that here, because that's in context,
it's true. It's bull nos.I mean no, it is,

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it is. It's ridiculous. Imean it's hard enough to be a musician.
A lot of them have to haveuntil they make it big, A
lot of them have to have normaljobs. My son worked. My son
worked two and three jobs just toafford as drums, you know, the
kids he needed and the equipment andblah blah blah. But no, my

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heart goes out to musicians because Idon't think there's not really a rock scene
anymore, and there's not here.I can tell you that our rocks.
The industry killed rock. I'd hateto say rocks. We could bring a
bank if we wanted to, butit's not going to get radio airplay.
What we have is this sort ofand I'm even saying soft rock because soft
rock, to me was the goodstuff from the seventies. I'm hearing this

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kind of whimpy I'll call it soyrock if you will. Yeah, that
you have these terrible rock bands.We're just kind of putting out this mellow
sound that everybody else is and theymay be trying to sound ex setting with
that. And I'm going to sayit again, the millennial whoop the oh
Yeah, that hurts my ears toeven think about. I know, but
rock creativity and rock is dead.The rock, the long rock song is

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dead, the story song is dead, the rock anthems, they no longer
exist. You are correct. Icouldn't agree with you more And I cannot
tell you how grateful I am thatI lived at the era I did live,
because I really did get. Ireally can't think of a band that
I thought sucked. Well honestly,every band I saw that I mean that

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got, you know, somewhat ofa name, even like Canned Heat.
They're not my thing, but theywere good, you know. So you
just have all these bands Grand FunkRailroad, Forget it should have been Mega.
You know, there's just obviously Seegerhe did go Mega. Alice Cooper
is still going, you know.But there I hadn't appreciated. And then

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the English bands, you know,led Zeppelin. I got to jam with
lave Zeppelin. I mean, yougotta wait, wait, stop, stop
stop. This is something that mylisteners would stop me and say or put
in the comments. Hey, Chris, you didn't ask her about this.
You jammed not only did you remembernot only were you the female Robert Plant,
but you jammed with led Zeppelin.So tell us more about that.

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Okay, So there are a couplestories. Okay, So let Zeppelin when
he came, when when they cameto town, we partied with them every
time, and partying to us wasjust showing up. We didn't do the
drugs, We weren't into the socks, We didn't do any of that.
But we were there and got tosee plenty of it. But anyway,

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I don't know how I escaped beingso young, not being influenced, but
I wasn't. So let Zeppelin.They played at Olympia, which was the
venue to play for the stadium band. And what happened was we had already
you know, partied with them thenight before they viped us. Of course,

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so we went backstage and stairway toheaven. This is such a great
memory for me. Stairway to Heavenhad just come out and it was like
huge, and we were backstage.I dated Rabbit Plant. It's another thing
we should be talking. So thefemale Robert Plant dated the real Robert Yeah,

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so he Jimmy was backstage, meand Patty. It was my sister,
Patty, who plays guitar. Wewere backstage and Jimmy started playing Stairway
to Heaven, offered Patty a guitar. She started jamming that with him,
and then Robert started singing it,and then it's one of my favorite memories
of all I'm sitting. I didn'trealize what it really meant back then.

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It just didn't hit me. Butnow that I look back, I think
how many people can say they sangwith Robert Plant and Patty played with to
Stairway to Heaven backstage, just jammingit out. It was like, now,
it's just such an incredible memory tome, But yeah, it's not

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many people can see that, evenprofessional musicians like yourselves. And it's such
an iconic song. I mean,every guitar player learned Stairway to Heaven.
So the male Robert Plan wanted tomeet the female Robert Plant, I suppose
a more dogs back them, sowe did it. I'm sure it's just
anything with a cross, you knowwhat I mean. There's so many Mountain

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we Mountain was the first band weopened for them at Eastown, Mississippi.
Queen had just been a hit.And while we were doing our Oh god,
why is it slipping my mound beforeyou start? What do you call
it? Oh? The thing youdo before you begin, That's what I
call it? Sound check we weredoing and they were there, you know,

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they had arrived and Leslie was standingat the side of the stage and
he was just listening. And wegot off and he was like, you
know, he didn't say, youguys are good for girls. He said,
you guys are going to knack thepants off these guy bands. So
we were like, yay, whatdo you know if someone who has actually

(43:00):
from credibility because they're bigger complimented us, well, it became a lifelong friendship.
Honestly, he really loved Cradle.He thought we were awesome, so
they would come when they'd come totown. We saw him every single time.
In fact, I would go toNew York City at sixteen years old,
I would fly there on my ownjust clothes shop, get the newest

(43:22):
clothes, and I would stay withQuirky laying the drummer. It is Greenwich,
Greenwich Village apartment. So they wouldcome to our house. My mom
would make spaghetti and our house.That's how our house was. It was
like an incoming NonStop. I mean, I really need to write a book.
It has to happen. I know, it's just finding the time.

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It's not that I'm not inspired,finding the time. But Leslie. I
saw Leslie. Of course he's passedaway now, but I saw him.
This was about seven years ago andI hadn't seen him since those days.
And so he vi ipaid me.I went. He was, you know,
like, yes, come. Sowe went and we were we were

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talking about old memories and he said, one of my favorite memories of all
time, he said. I talkedabout this on the Howard Stern Show.
He said, I'll never forget it. There was a place where we lived
in gross Point. There was aplace called the War Memorial. And in
front of the War Memorial, verygross Point is very wealthy, so it's
you know, really extravagant. Infront of the War Memorial, there are

(44:30):
you know, the shrubs that area mate made into a maze. Yes,
he took them there after a showone night. They said, you
know, what can we do becauseit was late enough where nothing was open
anymore. And I said, let'sgo play hide and go seek at the
woman more. And that's what wedid. We went there and played hide
and go seek. I mean,they're all stoned. I don't even know

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how we played, you know,but he said that was one of the
most fun nights I've ever had inmy life that night, and he talked
about it on ourd stern. Ihad no idea that he thought it was
that much fun, but he said, you have no idea. Well,
hide and seek at a placelet calledgross Point sounds absolutely fantastic for those of
you who are listening out there.You know a rich area when they have

(45:15):
a word in it with a sailinge. It's just the requirement for a
very rich area. Yeah, Imean I had I had a friend who
had a house that was twenty twothousand square feet with an elevator in a
ballroom. We didn't live like that, but I mean we lived in gross
Point. But it is very wealthy, no doubt. But it has its

(45:35):
normal such a I don't know howour neighbors. I don't even know how
they stood it, because our housewas NonStop. We practiced in the garage.
I mean, my mom would complainbecause the pots and pans were rattling
out of a kitchen cover. Hecouldn't keep them in there. But bands
came over in jam Jefferson airplane.They came over. They were all on

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ASCID and we were Yeah, wewere in the garage at like three in
the morning. My dad, ofcourse has to get up for work.
And my dad was famous for wearingblack crew socks with his underwear were his
trunks, you know, the longtrunks. And he would have been great
for the outhouse lounge here we that'sthat's the required a tire unless you have
a leisure suit. Yeah, sohe would walk around like that and these

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we were in the garage and Idon't even know why, because my dad's
Italian and he does have a temperwhen he did when he hits mad,
he couldn't they ever get mad,but when he did, so we're in
their jam and it's like four inthe morning by then, and my dad
we woke. My dad he comehe pulls that door, the garage door

(46:44):
open, and then he's pissed,Hell, you're doing out here at four
in the morning. And then helooks at the musicians and he all of
a sudden his whole mood changes andhe says, you guys know B flat
blues. Nice. They're all they'reall like, oh yeah. He comes
out in his underwear socks and thewife beater and jams at the organ with

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them. Oh that's great. Thatthat's a fantastic family story. Yeah,
it was awesome. I mean itwas music. So my dad was like,
oh, I don't care what timeof the morning is up doing it.
I'm pretty sure he had those timeswhere he would be thinking what would
go Should I go out stay andyell at these kids and go stop that
infernal racket right now? Or shouldI just nurture their talent? Yeah,

(47:28):
my dad was Both of my parentsthey let you have free reign to live
what would make you happy. Andthey were strong parents as far as you
know direction and in opinion. Idon't want to call them liberal because they
weren't liberal, but they there's adifferent definition today than maybe back then,

(47:49):
exactly because I was more liberal backthen. And I wouldn't, but I
had a lot of values. Soit's a different liberal now. But uh
yeah, Ted Nugent, he wasmy first boyfriend, you know that?
And he Uh, we had acar chase. It's something else I'll never
forget. Born to Be Wild bySteppenwolf. Oh I remember that song?

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Yes, Oh my god, Iloved that song. Well, we had
a car chase. That's who we'regoing here. We had. I snuck
out of the house to Ted pickme up in his limousine and I so
I snuck out my window and mydad caught me and it became a car

(48:31):
chase. My dad hops in hisCadillac and Nutan's going about one hundred miles
an hour and a thirty five millionan hour zone trying to get away from
my dad. And he Born toMe Wild comes on and he hikes up
that song and he's pounting the steestory. Will I'm just like this was
fun. My dad tried to groundme. When I did finally get home.

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My dad he didn't catch us.He did he did he try to
catch you? Did he try tofull one hundred miles around the road?
Oh? Yeah, he stood rightwith us and then when I did finally
get home, he did try toground me, but I had a gig
the next week, so he couldn't. There we go. That's a that's
one of the best stories I've everheard. Yeah, I talked to Ted

(49:15):
because we text every now and then, but I talked to him and had
really been I wanted him from mydocumentary. I wanted him to be one
of the people I speak to.I had Roger Daltrey. I had so
many people lined up that all saidyes, Alice. And that's another reason
I thought, you know this documentary. I mean, I've got notables in
here. You know that could aregoing to speak about Detroit and my brother.

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And when I didn't. I don'tknow how I even found this number,
but I did. I had enoughconnections to get his private number,
and I hadn't talked to him inforty years. That's a long time.
So the phone rings and it's notthe number I called him on because I

(49:57):
do screen on my phone calls.And my husband said, I said,
I don't know, I feel likeI should answer this one, and he
said, yeah, go ahead,because I had just texted him, but
it wasn't the same number. Hecalls me up and the first thing he
said is Nancy Quatrow, you skinnyeffing bitch. Bitch. Yes, not

(50:20):
skinny, that's changed. And thenwe went home week and he of course
said, yes, on board forthe documentary. But he actually I said,
do you remember the car chase withmy dad? Because I was fifteen,
that's a long time ago, andhe's experienced the log I didn't think
he'd remember, but he said,oh my god, that was fun,

(50:40):
and he said, born to bewild. He remembered every drop of it.
So I was shocked. But youknow what, it was a hectic
time back then. It was aheavy political time. It was a great
time of unrest, but it wasthe most powerful time. I go back
in a heartbeat if I could.You guys didn't get pulled over either,

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No, I just think it wasI'm so glad I got to live that
generation. I really am. Isuppose a lot of young young people would
would look at this two different ways. That looked like a lot of fun
or that's way too scary for me. I understand that, but you lived
it, and I gotta tell you. Running one hundred somewhat miles an hour

(51:23):
on the on the road you havewith Ted Nugent. Your father's chasing you
and thinking and probably being Italian,he's probably unloading every curse word in the
book trying to catch up, goingone hundred miles an hour. It must
not have been fun coming home,No, he was. He was waiting.
Of course, I don't want youhanging out with that t Yeah,

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he's grounded going with the and heIt was so funny because all my dad
was exposed. He was long hairedhippies. I mean everyone that came to
the house. You know, yourlong haired hippie. And I thought,
you don't even care about that?Why do you? Because he had my
brother born, he brought Jimmy Hendrix. That was my first rock concert and
that was the biggest influence, singleinfluence on me in my whole life for

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music. Was I didn't even knowwho he was. And he comes barreling
out of that stage from behind thecurtain into purple Hayes with the guitar,
and from then on I was like, what is this a whole new world
open for me? But my dadhad to pick him up from the airport
and he was heizekite and my dadbitch about it for a good pot in

(52:34):
the limousine. My brother had likethree limousines, so he was Hendricks was
you know, my dad. Itwas definitely not a drug family, and
it definitely was not a alcohol family. So it was really that part of
it, you know. But thatwas the rock and roll world that just
was. I mean, you werethe only ones I knew that didn't do
drugs. Yeah, it's understandable.Is a lot of these guys were influenced.

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They just said, the other guysare doing that, I'm going to
do it. How did you stayout that peer pressure? Anyway? You
mentioned it a couple of times.How do you kind of rise above it
if you will? Okay? Sofor me, it wasn't hard. It
wasn't even an option to me.I had a healthy fear of drugs.
I don't like to feel out ofcontrol, and I didn't want a chance
that I'd feel out of control.I saw a lot of damage. It

(53:21):
actually turned me off to see whatpeople became. Or I was backstage,
Cream was coming on and they werewaiting for Jack Bruce to walk out there,
and I walked by his dressing roomand there's a needle hanging out of
his ronment. I just what awaste? What a waste? Hendrick Stein
freaked me out. I just thought, I don't get the point of the
drugs. I have so much funwithout drugs, and I just don't choose

(53:45):
to be I never drank either,I just don't choose to be inebrated.
I'd like to be I'd like tobe ensconced in reality. But now I
wish I liked drugs because I wouldtake drugs now. I think you need
it now just to get through,you get through reading the newspaper, watching
network television news every once in awhile, or cable news. There were
going be in twilight zone, becausethat's what I feel. I meant,

(54:06):
But yeah, it really it justwas not an issue for me. I
s I smoked pot I'm not gonnalie about that. That doesn't count.
I don't count pot is. Idon't even that was very different back then.
It really was different. It waskind of homegrown and not at all
what it is today. It wascontural. It well, yeah, it
just wasn't and I liked it fora little bit that I did it.

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But you know, I just nevertook to drugs, never wanted to.
I would never be a good drugaddict. For one main reason, I'd
be a horrible heroin addict. I'mdeathly afraid of needles. Oh I'm not
just never happening. I can't.I can't do it. I Yeah,
they hurt. I'm sorry they hurt. Yeah, I'm not afraid of needles,

(54:51):
but I can't. Our drummer afterSusy left the band to go to
England, our female drummer, shenow passed away, but she was addicted
to heroin. So that was ourfirst wow okay to deal with and it
wasn't easy. And I honestly Iget why Nugent has a strong stance on
no drug taking. And if you'rein his band, if you are here

(55:14):
just kicked out, and I don'tblame him. Well, that's the way
he wants to run his band,and that makes a lot of sense.
It does ruin lives taking. It'swe've lost a lot of great talent and
a lot of good people who havesuccumbed to succumb to the world of drugs.
I just I understand. And yougot to see it, and I
guess, I guess watching it andseeing these things happen, if people had

(55:35):
nothing of an effect on you tojust not do it. But do you
know what's funny? Honestly, becausebefore I joined the band, when I
was thirteen, all my friends werethat's when drugs were really becoming prevalent,
and all my friends were doing Imean, all my friends were dropping acid
and blah blah blah. So Iwasn't in the band yet. I think

(55:58):
it's just me being who I am. I'm naturally rebellious, I really am,
but I'm not going to do somethingthat I'm not really comfortable with.
I'm just not it's something serious likethat. So I think having a healthy
fear of them. I always hada healthy fear. That's a good thing.
I do want to mention one morething. The Detroit music scene is
still pretty darn good. That's onething that's we talked about how rock has

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been dying and everything else. Wedon't see punk music anymore, and I
talked to a few people about,well, there's still punk music out there.
There's no punk is not punk anymore. If you're playing for these like
Rage for the Machine, you're playingpro establishment music and cheering on the government,
you are not punk. You're theopposite of punk. That's right.
It's anarchy, but Detroit still hasgreat music coming out of that. I

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want to throw out some names.Obviously, Nikki Corvette is still is still
playing and singing. You have AmyGore has continues to put us some good
music out there, and you havea lot of really really good bands that
are local. I got to seethrough both of them actually of having them
on pass programs there. It's fascinatinghow there are some quarters around the country

(57:07):
where you can still find some reallyreally good rock. I'm sure there are,
It's just not out in the forefrontlike and there. It's not the
like our music scene in Dallas.The bars basically there, you you could
go probably through twenty bars that allhave rock bands playing. There's zero because

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like one one left that is actuallyplaying, hiring bands and playing rock music.
It's really rare Detroit. I dotalk to my friends that are my
age that were in the scene veryheavily, and like Jim McCarty, easy
guitarists. There are quite a fewof them, and I asked them.
We talked like once a year,how is the scene now? And basically

(57:51):
what they tell me is there isn'tone in Detroit. That's what they tell
me. Now. I don't knowif because they're the age they are,
you know, and maybe not gettinghired like the young ones do. I
don't know, but Jim McCarty hasquite a big name. I mean,
we got Johnny Badanjik the drummer who'soutrageously incredible. These are all the names

(58:15):
from back then, you know,Metrid or all them. But I from
what they tell me, they it'snot anything close to what it was.
It probably wouldn't be because a lotof them went national and and we're able
to go to bigger and better things. A lot of local bands will just
break up after a while, ora lot of these guys have to do

(58:35):
some regular Johns while they put outtheir music. I have heard some great
stuff I had Detroit. To behonest with you, at this point,
maybe your friends are saying that seemsnot as big as it used to be.
But you do have some good stuffcoming out there. I'll contend to
that. But music, because youhave a whole different type of people that
live there. It's it's different whenI go there, when I fly back

(58:57):
there, I am instantly I don'tcare. I've lived here longer now than
I have did there. I livedthere twenty nine years, born and raised.
But when I go back to Detroit, I'm home. I relate to
the people, not well I do, and no Cowboy fans, not the

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a whole other subject. Imagine thatgoing from Detroit with the Lions and going
to Dallas and having to deal withall those cowboy fans and a lot of
the cowboy fans my age. Theseare people who were watching the Cowboys win
all those games in the in theseventies where their little feede pajamas and saying,
oh the Star, Oh that's socool. I want my team to
have a star as the logo.That's where they became a phenomenon. And

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I haven't really done much since.Yeah, my son's a huge I mean
he puts all the you know,the shirts on and what they're playing.
My son loves the Cowboy. Hejust he just had to take care of
Dak Prescott is that his name.Yes, that's that's got to hurt.
I liked that was a good quarterback, though, he said, Mom,

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you could not be because he worksfor the Texas Rangers. My son,
and he said, you could notmeet a nicer guy than Dak. He
said, he's just so uh,down to earth, he said, really
lovely. You know, always givesMichael a hug. And I mean all
Michael does is make sure his food'sright, you know. But he's very,
very very down to earth, andyou wouldn't know he is who he

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is. The Rangers are having agood year too, so that's all good.
Yeah. Yeah, it's been awhile for them. Yes, Oh
yeah, I worked for them forseven years. Wow. Did you work
for the really? Yeah? Andthen I went on to I opened up
the fine dining restaurant, had todeal with the Ranger wives. Yeah,
I worked there seven years at thestadium, and then I moved on to

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American Airline Center where the Mavericks andthe Stars play, and I opened up
I worked directly with my Cube andI opened up his club. Oh that's
interesting. But now I've took sportson the next show. Yeah, you
know I've done obviously. You know, I'm still looking for work, so
well, we're always looking for workhere. I'm still forging. I'm still

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forging a career in radio, orat least trying to do that. Nancy
quatro Glass, thank you very muchfor being with me on the Outhouse Lounge.
Thank you. I totally enjoyed it. Be well, and thank you
all for joining us. Enjoy yourday, and yes, keep listening.
It's a great music. Yes,that's a must