October 13, 2023 • 49 mins
Jennie Matthias (The Belle Stars) and Mat Sargent (Chelsea, Sham 69) teamed up to form Sargent Bellestar. Jennie and Mat join Chris Cordani in the Outhouse Lounge to talk about their first album: Nothing Stays the Same, for which they have released two videos so far ("Help Me" and "Non-Believer). While Jennie and Mat have worked together over several years, the lockdowns spawned the idea to put together their own aptly-named band.
We talk about the tracks, the videos, how music can be a force for good, censorship, action at UK protests and the Food For All charity (for which they both work hard). #music #SargentBellestar #TheBelleStars #newwave #Punk #charity #politics #raggae #UK #britishmusic #FoodForAll
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Welcome back to the Outhouse Lounge.I'm Chris Cordeny, your host. This
is where we relax and talk aboutwell, you know, I can't really
say that on YouTube. They'll beupset. As I said, I'm Chris,
your host. With me in thelounge are two fantastic artists who joined
forces to form the band Sergeant BellStar. I like that anyways, Sergeant
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Bell Starr, I think you'll understandhow it works. Their album Nothing stays
the same as still with grooven,melodic rocking and quite relevant punk music.
Welcome to the lounge, Jenny BellStarr and Matt Sergeant l Nice to see
you again. Nice to see youtoo, and hear you. Because we're
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also on audio, audio and video, you can catch us all around wherever
you get your podcasts. Had tostick that in there. I really enjoy
this album. I'm gonna show itoff right now. This is the Sergeant
Bell Star album. It's Nothing staysthe same. It's it's quite cool,
melodic and relevant. You have allthe cool stuff, by the way.
I like the like the spirograph onthe front here, and thank you for
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the autograph's very nice too. Andman's got a story about the spirograph on
the front there, Yes, andof course there's patch as well. Yeah,
yeah, it was actually my dad. He's an architect and he he
he does a lot of precision drawing, and we I've got the original a
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picture of that, so where wedecided to use that as the front cover
and actually pure features in the videoas well. If you see the video
of help Me, it's actually behindJenny on when she's sitting on the sofa
in the video. I saw thatI was going to mention that, but
you beat me to the punch onit. Check it the video for help
Me. It's really cool. Butthe way I must say I wanted to
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get this, I was gonna saythis a little bit later on, but
since you brought the video up,Jenny, you make a fine news anchor.
Matt, you make a stillar weatherman. The mainstream media is missing
some serious nothing compared to us kiddingme. Yeah, I love all this
stuff that Matt was doing on theweather thing. How long before you guys
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get kicked off mainstream media? Wellhe's not as bad as me, but
well, I guess what's happen now? It only matters that you look good.
I guess right. Yeah, yeahfor music. Yeah, this is
a new project with both of you, but you've done a lot before.
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Let's talk about your musical history together. Well, I guess I guess it
started on the on the Scar Curcy, didn't it, Jenny? Kind of
about ninety two we met on theScar circuit. We used to play play
it's called the Roby in Finsbury Park, the George Roby. Yeah, that's
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where we met. Iconic at thetime. Yea. And yeah, so
we we met and we just kindof clicked straight away really and then a
few years later I did a hugeproject for charity called Sex, Drugs and
HIV and I called Jenny up andasked her to do a track, one
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of the tracks on the album.So that was our first recording together.
Yeah. Yeah, but prior tothat, if you don't mind me stepping
in, Prior to that, Chris, we had read the boards in the
George Roby and I think some otherplaces. And you know how incestuous the
music business is. So he knowseverybody. I know, I know everybody
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he knows. And didn't you haveone of the guys from the Beat playing
as a drummer Everett Morton the drummer. Yeah, he was. He was
playing in the band that I wasplaying in called the Pneumatics. Yeah,
that's it. Yeah. Yeah,So you had your finger in other pies
then, didn't you as well?Yeah? Which is which were the scar
bands? And uh? In fact, wasn't the guy from Baby Shambles in
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the Pneumatics or is that that was? That was a bit later? Yeah?
Oh wow, okay, okay,I remember, I remember everything.
But so we were you know,we we just in that scene you meet
everybody all the time, and soyou know, and if you get on
with each other, which we did, and and then we just grew from
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there, really, didn't we.I mean, we'd see each other.
He did ask me to go onthat album, and I wasn't the only
person he asked. I mean,there was loads of people on that album,
and again people that we knew fromfrom from from that scene and from
Top of the Pops and all kindsof stuff. And and then you asked
me to do another song, didn'tyou, with the Gypsy something, the
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rock and roll Gypsy. It waslike a live a live band that played
the songs from the HIV Project liveand we recorded I think four tracks with
the rock and roll Gypsies, whichwere songs on the album, but we
did them gypsy style. Yeah,you came down and sang back in vocals
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on Easy Target. That's it EasyTarget? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love it. And then yeah, and then and then of course we
we did we did some recording withPower and the Harry Krishna's all right,
that's a good name for a band, Harry Kris to shave their heads,
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call the Christna band. We actuallycalled the Krishna band. When we go
out and we have all these differentartists on there, it's whoever's available,
isn't it, And what we dothen that's that's the only time we become
political is because of we're doing thewe're doing the the marches. So yeah,
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yeah, yeah, I mean wewe've had some we've had some serious
thousands upon thousands of people just followingus around like the Pie Piper. It's
it's just been something, isn't it. It's been an incredible experienced. Lewis
she was with us and talking abouthuh, that was huge. That was
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about one hundred thousand people. Itwas massive, and we were the main
band and people were just like peoplewere just walking down the street and and
the the idea being we've got theselike Indian rictuals, and the drama sits
in the ritual and then Matt withhis instrument walks and you know, just
walks by the side of it andsomehow he's like hooked up to some kind
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of amp. I've got a headmic on and it works really well and
the crowd go ballistic. In fact, I'm actually going to send you I'm
going to send you a copy ofthat a bit later. You might want
to kind of like insert it intothe thing a later day, but it's
really on YouTube. It's really good. I got to listen to a lot
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more of your music there, Matt, along with obviously when you play with
Chelsea M sixty nine and uh oh, I'm an eighties guy, but I
always I always pronounced this name terribly, this splodging, the splodge of messabouts.
Yeah, there you go, butit kind of kind of means a
big mess all about. Yeah.I've become a big fan of your bass
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style, and I got to heara lot of that in this album.
We're going to be talking about thatsoon. I put you up there with
some of my favorite Bassis, likelike Colin Gregson, all right, there
we go. That's a that's abad news reference for anybody who doesn't know
about bad news out there. Butthat's like, got to stick that in
there. But I've watched I've watchedthat film so many times. I don't
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be too I was. I stillthink bad News is better than spinal tap.
I don't care where anybody stays inAmerica. It's just the first one
is brilliant. Yeah, yes,yes, absolutely So how did you How
did your family to said, hey, let's put an album together. Well,
I think we talked about it fora long time, you know,
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since we recorded on the HIV project. We did. The song we did
was called Private Agenda, and itwas just such a lovely song. And
we'd always talked about doing an albumtogether, and Lockdown was the perfect time,
you know. I mean we hadtime on our hands, you know,
we were all lockdown. We couldn'tgo out, so that's when we
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started writing, so it was perfecttime to do it. Really, the
lockdown was bad here, but Iheard it was a lot worse in the
UK and Australia. I know aboutthat. I mean I literally didn't didn't
leave the house for about five months, you know, literally, you know,
didn't go out at all, youknow, so I'll get it with
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it was that bad all over theplace. Although I haven't said that,
yeah, I mean I didn't realizethat you hadn't done that for five months.
Matt lives quite far a distance fromme. But the other side of
the river, the other side ofthe river. That's that's as far as
I'm concerned, other side of theriver. Yeah, there you go for
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me. Cheeky old Jen. Ourfriend Para who runs the who runs free
for all. He he called me. He called me up, He said
Jen, and he said, whatwe're going to do? And I said,
well, yeah, what are wegoing to do? The homeless are
still out there, they me feeding. What's going to happen to them?
So he said, look, Jen, call on mate. We had a
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friend right he was in in thisset in this late seventies band punk band
called the Vibrators, and he wasthe lead singer of this band, the
Vibrators, And he has he hasa charity shop and music charity shop literally
round the corner. And I calledhim up and I said to him,
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you know, we need you,We need your keys and he said,
yeah, you can have them,but what for us if the homeless everyone
needs feeding. So he came downpast the keys immediately, and you know,
and that was me getting out onthe second day. But when I
got out on the second day inLondon, there was no one around.
It was like a ghost town,you know. So but still people needed
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feeding and they still you know,some people that found out where we were
because we were blaring the music loudenough. They found out where we were
and they got fit there. Butthere were pockets of you know, places
where they were so scared that theykind of stayed in and that's what they
did. You know. It's thefear porn from from the newspapers that got
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everybody going, ah, yes,the fear porn. That's uh. I
like that term, by the way, because it just sounds about right.
People seem to it was something toscare people for a long term the government
used, but I do believe peoplefeed off it nowadays. I mean the
regular person, they seem to notuh not be sure themselves or not be
uh not be complete without maybe fearingsomething they're told to fear. Anymore these
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days, part of the system reallyisn't it. You know, this is
why it's good to do music.This, This is why we keep our
hand in music and and put thatto the wayside once this once in a
while and just go, you knowwhat. I think that's that. That's
what the album was all about.Really in a way, it's just like
finding another outlet too, because everythingelse around us was chaos at the time
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in terms of everybody being you know, lockdown and uh just doing things that
they would never have done had theynot been locked down. I've just noticed
there's no lights on them here,can you just because I'm getting darker?
Yeah, okay, that's okay,Now we're good here. We can actually
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have you to change the lights becausemost people are going to be listening on
the audio anyway, so that's good. They're not worried about that. But
there there we go. But thethe the band, let's put this way,
you guys put this band together.Sergeant Bellstar. I do like the
name because and I don't want toshow this patch again for those who are
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watching, those who are listening aren'tgonna be able to see this. Cool
patches like the have the three stripedsergeant like you have in I guess the
three striped sergeant in in America becausenot pointing down, so it's not the
f troop, uh, cavalry sergeant. And you have the star under that,
which is pretty cool because uh,there is a sergeant major rank here
that actually has that with rocky horseson the bottom. I'm yapping up a
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little bit here, but I likethe logo. So the artwork and the
logo very cool. Let's get intothe album though. Songs are songs are
quite relevant as to today. Again, let a melodic punk. I do
want to point out there is areally snazz in reggae tune movie, if
you Wilson. So we're in theleisure suit for this. But let's go
the first track, Well, thefirst track released as a video helped me.
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It's pretty much telling us what's goingon today and we're getting sick and
tired of it. And let metell you something, we all need some
help. Yeah, I mean,it was all need especially you, Chris.
Yeah. I mean it's kind ofpretty self explanatory. You know,
you're looking at something on the you'refed up of whatever it is you're seeing
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on the I mean, what whatwhat's your take on it? On that
song yourself. Well, I thinkit's I think it was just you wrote
the lyrics. It's such a darktime during lockdown and as we were coming
out, so there were a lotof things, you know, dark issues
that I think you covered. Andyou know, that's what I like about
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it. It's not kind of Imean, it's kind of kind of jolly,
but in a in a kind ofdeep sense, you know that that's
kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember what it's called.
That's what it was. It wasa name for it wasn't there, And
I think it was something around youknow, macab comedy. Here we go
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with me on the out house lounge, meant sergeant and Jenny Mathias. They
are Sergeant Bill Starr. I enjoyedthe video too, and as I said,
you cut off to a lot ofcool scenarios. Jenny, you played
a character who is really just sickand tired, waking up in a room
and just like watching these things ontelevision, the news media repeating things back
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and forth. They want you tohear. But we get propaganda at in
Ukraine. Sometimes you can think theworst stuff comes actually from our mainstream media
sources. We say Russian propaganda orforeign propaganda. A lot of the propaganda
comes from within, and we areall sick and tired of it. Yeah
yeah, I mean that's what thatwas saying. As soon as you put
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the TV on, it's the sameold thing, the same old thing,
And afterwards you're just like, youknow what, I've had enough. So
that's what that kind of like throwingthe throwing the remote control and like just
going out to the park. Andthen as you're going out into the park,
he's reading that, he's reading thepaper. It's the same thing on
the front news. Give us abreak here, you know. So so
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it's like a subtle dig to,you know, just give us our lives
back and bug off, you know. But they're not going to do that.
Once they do, once they pusha lot in there, once they
start giving money away to something,the governments never take it back. And
yeah, after a while we're goingto be screaming help me when this stuff
continues. Yeah yeah, well yeah, So what other tracks did you like?
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Chris? Well, first, Ijust want to I want to throw
a couple more questions about this videothe base. First off, first of
all, pumps here, I wantto I want to note that your lyrics
and the music and the singing tellsthe story absolutely fantastic, fantastic, like
if you well that's not even areal word, but meant the bass actually
does help tell this story as well. You're pumped through this like like it's
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uh, it's urgent. The sound, the lyrics, recervergency and sort does
the beasts. It works together.Well, I like that much. Yeah,
listen to it, right, Andand by the way, I do
have to ask another question, right, how good of both of you at
chess? And what's your favorite openingor what's the opening and normally employed well,
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actually I'm a royal. When wewe we set the chess board up
for the video shoot and then bloodyMatt and play this, I said,
show you the horses go to upand once once to the left or one
to the right, and so I'llshow how to play it. And then
and then uh then and then ofcourse the bit where I throw the chess
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pieces off. And that was thatwas. That was about the long and
the short of it. I alwayslove the fact and the fact that I
won. Apparently apparently you did.I think I did on one occasion.
Anyway, Yeah, the guy thatknocks the pieces off the board. Generally,
Generally it is just the upset guy. I've seen that quite a few
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times. I've never done it.I've never done. The worst thing I've
ever done in chess is like makesomebody chase me around to a stalemate,
so they just can't they just can'tcatch me. And that's a good It's
annoying to the opponent. I'll tellyou that. But hey, I didn't
lose, now, did I.I'm more a backgammon kind of person than
myself. I have to send there. That's a game I have to learn.
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I would like to learn that game. Monopoly King. Oh oh no,
no, I like Monopoly. No, no, no, yeah,
yeah, I'll get a bet.A few Monopoly boards have been thrown in
the air. People tend to tryto buy boardwalk and park place, and
they just throw all their money atthose, saying, people lent on this.
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They're gonna they're gonna give me alot of money. Chances. Sorry,
people aren't landing on that. Youget the small properties, make people
pay every time they walk by you, and get the hotels and everything earlier.
You get those green and yellow propertieseverybody seems to land on, and
the opponents are toast. You don'teven have to touch boardwalk or I tend
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to use the expensive properties for mortgagesto pay for hotels somewhere else. But
you know what, I'm not avery good player, so I wouldn't take
my advice either. Let's get tosome of the other great tracks on this
On this album, nothing seems thesame. The title track, A lot
of the tracks of a great melodicpunk sound. But too busy I'll go
to the title track letter because toobusy thinking brings truth to reggae. That's
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what I say, truth to reggae. Nice reggae beat on that one can
to take a nice turn on it. What Yeah, well the drama Steve
Griinger, he that was his firstreggie track, so he was really toughed
with it. So there you go. You know, that's his first first
ever reggae tracker that you recorded,So yeah, we're really pleased with that.
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It was it was. It wasone that's been around and Matt really
liked it and said we should dothis, and we obviously we changed it
and because obviously there has to bethe same thread like sonically sonically sound running
through and I think it works,you know, I'm really I was,
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you know, I'm really happy tohave not You know, when you write
a song, you don't want toleave the song on the shelf. So
if a friend of yours says,Jen, I really like that track this
wherever, and then you know,you add it into the fold, and
then you know, then it becomesour track because it's obviously we're both writing
it together. You're talking about themotorbike one, right, Matt, are
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we you know, yeah reading upinside my head? Ye yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, I can't even remember the lyrics.
I need to go get the albummyself. Well, that's the trouble
when you're write with so many people, is that's that's one with the bridge
where you go talk about the chittychatty So that's uh oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I see.It's really strange because like there's always
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we were talking about this in thestudio, won't be mad. There's always
something in a record or a songthat someone will like, you know,
and everyone will like something different.But I knew that they'd like the cheerty
chatty, cheerty chaddy geert jaddy.Oh yeah, we don't like you want
to hear other people do it,though. The chitty chatty gets annoying when
people just keep going on and getsin your ear and they chit chat about
everything like really silly er they tellyou what they think, and they tell
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you exactly what to think, andthings like that. All the chitty chtty
is really annoying. And by theway, I'm doing that right now.
So I'm going you are supposed todo that, my friend. Oh yeah,
that's right, just because you didn'trealize. Oh boy, this is
not good. I'm losing it allChris curdanity. Here on the Outhouse Lounge,
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we have Matt Sergeant and Jenny Mathiaswith me. They are Sergeant Bill
Starr It. Let's see, itdoesn't matter as another good one. I
like that one. It doesn't happenright, well should they? Yeah?
It's kind of got a slightly countryfeel to that one, isn't it right?
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I was thinking the same thing,but then I thought, wait a
minute, you go back into moreof a punk. We call it cowpunk
here, the country punk. Butyeah, I do enjoy I did enjoy
the little country twang in the beginning. That was pretty cool. The most
the most poignant lyric in that andthere are plenty of them. They will
censor you because they fear you.Let's put that together with help me,
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because that's what's happening these days.You guys get stuck and you're hearing all
the propaganda coming to you when youwhen you fight back, you guys,
and I know you've done protests beforeand you've fought, you've actually spoken back
to the government, but they,Yep, Jenny, you've been censored because
they do fear you. But that'strue. When you speak out and and
you they call, they'll they'll tryto shut you down as a conspiracy theorist.
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They'll try to shut you down assomebody who's an ingreat, we're uppity
or whatever else. And when you'reright, they'll still suppress it because they're
afraid of information coming out there oreven just just a second or a different
philosophical thought than maybe the normal.Right and that was which which was the
name of the track. Again,it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
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Well, I mean it does matter, but it doesn't matter if the track
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.It's very strange because when did we write
that, Matt, We wrote that, Like, how long ago did we
write that? Two years? Ago. It's got to be two years ago
now, Yeah, yeah, Ithink I think it was. It was
a year in the making because becausebecause of the you know, the situation
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in hands, you know, wherewe had to you know, if we
weren't lockdown, we would have doneit a lot quicker. But you had
we went into lockdown again, didn'twe. So we did sessions and then
we had to because there was restrictionsat the studio, so sometimes there's only
one person allowed or two people allowedmaximum. We do so much and then
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we'd have to take a break untilthe restrictions were lifted, and then then
we covered on with it. Soit kind of it was broken up into
a few sections. But yeah,we got there in the end. Yeah,
and the and the lovely thing wasI don't know, you know how
many English fans you know out there, Chris, where you are a really
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good friend of ours. Do youremember a band called ten Pole Tudor Edward
has been on with me several times. They had one at least three or
four times. He would play hisnew stuff. It was great. And
I just want to throw this inthere about ed by the way, great
presenter too, by the way,it's great great on camera as far as
game shows and uh, he hedid that. He did a Harry Potter
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movie for that matter, but Ibelieve it was only on DVD, not
the actual main movie. I'm gonnaI'm gonna digress because now you got me
talking about him. Uh. Therewas a there's a Norwegian band that does
ten Pole Tutor covers. Okay,yeah, so it's called I think it
was the ten Pole Tutor Vikings,I think they're called. And Ed actually
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did an album with them. Sowe talked about that. He's I'd love
to see those, to see those, Richard, he's a good friend.
See what happened was we went downto the studio and he opens the door
and it was Richard. I've knownme for years and I hadn't seen him
for years, and it was justlike this reunion, wasn't it. Man
of people, and it was justso nice And he himself is a very
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accomplished engineer and everything else. He'sa lovely, lovely being. I've known
him. He was my label mateand Stiff Records, you know, so
I've noticed since I was twenty one, twenty two, and it was to
go back and do that full circleand then to be the age we are
now, He's had children, allyou've you know, we've all, all
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of us have had a life inbetween that. To then go back and
then have to work on this albumwith with my good friend Matt and then
him, it's just like it was. It was really it was a match
made noven, wasn't it with agreat combination And I love his production.
That was I think that was theseventh album I've recorded with him, because
he's such a lovely guy. Wekind of because we worked. I did
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the HIV project, finished the HIVproject there as well, and we kind
of spent so much time in theproduction that we kind of got this telepathy.
We know what each other are thinking, you know. So it just
worked. And then when Jenny cameand it was like, eh, you
know, I haven't seen you foryears, you know, so that was
a that was a lovely moment.You know, I bring you together.
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I need that. I have tohear that now now it's in my head.
I have to hear the three ofyou together. That'll be cool.
I think we've got some clips inthe studio. I think, well we
should play those. I don't knowif we can play them on the lounge
because of the copyright thing. ButI'm gonna have to get a radio show
once again. Get the music outthere. That's what we have to do.
Maybe Don could play some of thatstuff on three sixty five if she's
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been on the show. I'm afan of hers as well. Another couple
of tracks you have, and notall of them are are are issue charge
or politically charged. You have somereally neat ones up and kind of fun
ones like I like, keep onsmiling because that's a good message to you.
You gotta smile. You know,it's right now because obviously I'm going
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to write political stuff because I dopolitical stuff, you know. But Matt
isn't like that. Although you lovemy lyrics, don't you. He loves
all my legs. He likes allmy lyrics, and I like all he's
playing. And so in that way, it's a match made in heaven.
And it's like you said before,Matt, it depends on the mood that
you're in when you you're given thetrack. For me, if I hear
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a driving baseline, that driving baselineis going to probably prompt me to do
something political. Where's everybody gone?Are you on your own? There again,
I am what happened? What happenedto you? Guys? Those had
(27:40):
you on this solowly out just tosee because I just I just don't would
look next there we go. You'vemade me lose my thread now, Chris,
I am old you know. Itwas like take me away from something
for the second and I've forgotten whatI was going to say. Anyway,
and keep going, everybody keep onsmiling with kind of I'll get the ballad
of the air. It was thekind of the ballad y track, because
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most of them are quite kind ofquite uply, but that was that was
kind of the the laid back track. Yeah, yeah, but we all
need to smile. I know,we don't like to show ourselves as as
weak or anything, and we tryto we try to make sure we assess
threats when we walk down the streetor anything else like that. But I
believe people greet each other with asmile more often. We'd have a more
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polite so Sayty, we can stillkeep her guard up. It doesn't cost
a penny. I write the lyrics, but it's nice to hear what somebody
else gets out of a track,and it's never usually what I've written so
you say so, Chris says,keep us smiling. Oh, I really
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like that because you know it's reallynice. You know, everyone should be
smiling this, that and the other. But I didn't. I mean,
like the write the lyrics like that, but last mine. But it is
kind of kind of up tempo thatyou think that a little bit. Well
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for me, that's that's the balladof the album. But it's still uptemply,
but it's it's the it's you know, it's the slowest bpm on the
on the album. You see everybodythey're talking bpm. I'm sorry over the
head. Yeah, even I dothat. I'm not a musician like both
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of you. I'm the radio guy. Although although truth be told, I
do know all the language because Idid study music when I was younger,
and I play all the branch instruments. So which, by the way,
I appreciate the real sex and thereal horns because that that that has to
stay. Even modern music today hasgotten away from that, and that that's
that has you know, I'm gonnasound like one of those old guys.
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You know, these kids don't wantto play with the real horns. We
gonna always have auto tune and allthat. No, No, although if
auto tune on the vocals at all, that's right. We don't do that.
The best anti auto tune quotes Iheard, I don't remember all of
them, but I remember doing aninterview with Midge Year and he was rolling
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off about auto tune. How itjust killed it killed music when shared did
it with that song. She didthat song, I believe, and she
did the auto tune with it.The reason why it was fun when she
did it was because it was itwas rare. And it's a singer with
talent. It's supposed to be supposedto add a little bit to a song
to make it more fun, orit's not supposed to hide lack of talent.
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Mm otherwise I'd be singing, Yeah, you're right, it does of
talent. I've seen it, andand and then all of this, all
of a sudden, all the songssounds the same, That's right. I
just felt how sad because you know, you picked up on a good point.
You know, everything in our albumis organic, right, nearly everything,
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is it? Even the drums.Matt am I right to say.
I mean, I mean, I'mquite purist. I hate drum. I
mean, I like drum machines forwriting, but when it actually comes to
recording them in the studio, youjust can't get a decent simple sound.
For example, it sounds too fake, you know. So you've got to
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have the real instruments there, youknow. Well, the other thing about
that is every human moves at adifferent piece. Some move as well as
others were close to the others,but people move at a different pieces of
personality. In every drummer, everyone of them has something distinct about them,
especially the ones that are more wellknown because they're considered great drummers.
But they drum different ways. Theyhave different speeds, they have different techniques.
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You can't get that with the drummachine, right, true. Yeah,
you've got to have dynamics in there, I think, you know.
I mean, even when when thedrummers playing along to it click clack with
the headphones on, it's still meandersa little bit because it's it's kind of
kind of live, but the thethe click clacks keeping you in time,
you know. And you know what, it's the same thing about rap music.
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Rap music back in the eighties andsome of the nineties, they had
they didn't have well, they didhave some beats in the background they have.
They didn't overdo it with the beats. They had a real human beat
box. Those guys were the best. I love those guys. That's that's
really good stuff. Yeah, tosay that the other day, absolutely fantastic.
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I don't know why they I mean, they're really good. They sound
amazing, and then they do allthis other stuff. They bring in the
saxes all from their mouth. You'relike, where where's the instruments, and
it's them. I'm just like,they're fantasticic. And there was one comedian
I don't know if he's still aroundanymore. Michael Winslow is an American comedian.
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He did all sorts of sound effects. If you watch those old uh
Police Academy movies, Yeah, theydid the helicopter sound and he did all
that. That guy, he wasfantastic. There is there are people that
those are Those are talents that areextremely rare and a machine and again,
people sound differently when they do them. A machine cannot cannot produce what a
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human beat box or a human drummeror a human guitar player can can produce
because they're all it's just it's justa uniqueness to each person. Well,
they can't do triplets, just likerandom. They can't do anything random.
That's a point. They can't doanything random. Well, the best thing
about them is they keep a bee. You can't that you can't deny.
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Yeah, and that you know itis really good, like like Matt says,
I forgot Matt's name, then mygood friend for how many years?
Anyway in the meantime, No,No, that's the good think about them.
They do keep time. And theyare great for writing songs with the
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initial the initial thing, you know, we can get the vibe. But
then when you come into a studio, Matt, both Matt and I we
write for the Harry Krishner band,and we wrote a fabulous song called Love
Love Love, and and we didit with the drummer. He's got this
just this natural ability to drop somethingin. You'd never get that from a
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drum machine, you know, youcan't. And the drummer is a different
drummer and drummer. When bands switcheddrummers, you know, have you ever
noticed that? Yeah? Yeah,it kind of changes the whole band,
doesn't it, because all drummers aredifferent, you know. And if he
changed that, that one piece ofof the of the pie. Then it
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all changes, you know, withme on the out house lounge or in
the old house lounge, Matt stand Jenny Matthias, they are Sergeant Bell
Star the album. By the way, I'm going to hold it up once
again. The album is here,Sergeant. I'm going to show that on
the bottom here. Nothing stays thesame. Now I'm showing it to people
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on video. But if you're listeningand will have the link to get this
and you will see this very coolthis very cool design in the video for
for for help Me of course andon the cover of the album. So
that's that's all good. And onceagain I want to say thanks for this
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nifty patch here. I do wantto say and when I have Jenny on,
I like to make sure that here'sthe patch. I like to make
sure that I mentioned Jenny's charities andyou both do a lot of work for
Food for All. I know wetouched on it beforehand, but let's talk
about that and why it's very importantto have that and and maybe how some
of our audience, whether they're listeningor viewing, can help out. But
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it's it's a charity that feeds athousand people a day, you know,
more probably well from two to fivethousand, but there you go. And
it's yeah, it's just a thingthat's been close to our hearts and we
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just we just wanted to do somesomething for that, you know. And
the matchless gift thing as well,that was a way of making money.
And and me and Jen Jenny said, we've been on many of these protest
marches and the Christian has come withus and serve food. It's all free
for whoever wants it. And theyjust do such a lovely thing, you
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know, and so we we wantedto help and also we get free food.
We need, we need charities,we need, but we need,
but we all need charities that arethat are regional and they feed people directly
from the money goes. That's easierwhen there's a smaller group and they can
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feed people in your area. Whatreally bothers me are our governments. You
got the UK and I'm in theUS here the governments are worried about bathrooms
and uh what what books children haveto read and whatever affirming things in this
and that, all this first worldstuff, when even in our own countries
there are people starving, There arepeople who are trying to put food on
the table and are unable to.They don't really care about that. They're
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throwing their money around the world.Well, it seems to be globally as
well, because it's always the veterans, the veterans that fought for the countries.
They come to our van. Theycome to the van because they've got
nothing. And you shouldn't have aveteran that actually came to this country and
and no one's looking out for you. I mean, that's actually quite sad.
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And if you're a bureaucrat, pencilpusher who works for the government,
you get a pension, you getalso sorts of benefits here and there.
You're a next soldier if we foryour country, what do you get?
Yeah, you put your life onthe line and you saw your buddies die.
Sorry, but there's something wrong there, you know. But in the
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you know, so so you know, like what Matt, you know exactly
what Matt says. It's a goodcharity. It's a small charity. But
that charity, Chris seems to domore than the big charities because the big
charities are given millions and everything else, they don't feed as many people as
we do to day. No,we're near it. Yet we have found
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been going for now thirty five yearsand we have found that, you know,
a niche in the market where wejust get free food. We've got
Our approach is different. Theirs isall clinical fund raised, fundraised, fundraised,
roundraised, run. So they're fundraisingfrom all these these uh you know,
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from all these different places because they'vegot them. I need to do
the fund raising. Whereas our friendPara I think backed me up on that.
He does do fund raising, buthe's so on the ground doing the
stuff that you know, he's gotthe love of the people. He's the
people's charity. That's what I wouldsay. I think it's a great way
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to describe because it all goes tothe people. You know what we did.
I mean, he's just out thereis new journey. I mean he
was. He goes all over theplace. I mean when he went into
he got in the van and hewent in the war zone. He went
to Ukraine straight off the bat,I mean, mad you know, he
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did it, you know, andwhat an amazing thing to do, you
know us Yeah, yeah, buthe came back. I was in the
van yesterday. But when in theround. I was like, watch that
on the wall. It's a bloodybullet hole. And there's not only one,
there's about three of them. There'sa bullet hole. He doesn't really
care. He's just like, oh, it's going to look after me.
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I'm good to go. Let's go. And then you know, and then
he raised up like what what isit? Something like a hundred thousand or
something, and he brought them allthis equipment and he called up all these
you know, he's wish friends witha few pop stars and Chrissy Heim being
one of them, and and youknow, all these people came that came
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to help, and so we getour funding that way because there are people
that there are people that really likewhat Para does. And both Matt and
I are the same. Para isa closet pop star. He's the director.
He's a closet pop star, andhe loves obviously me and Matt,
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and he's just like whenever we doone of these events, he's like,
Jen, call Mat up, Cev'savailable, you know, so and and
so we'll all go up if heif he's available, with more and more
often than not, he is,we'll just get out and me playing for
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the thousands of people, and thepeople are absolutely going ballistic. I'll send
you this CD. Wait shod yousee it. It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
I will have to hear that nowto see more CDs coming from the UK
across the pond. That's all goodstuff. I like all sorts of music
anyway, So that's that's a greatthing. And no auto tune, right,
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yeah, So I'm pretty glad youliked the album. This is a
great album and I used to doa lot of I used to blog when
I was doing the Revenge of theEighties show as far as the album reviews,
but I like doing them right herein the long from just talking to
you while I review them. That'sthe way to do it, because when
I review them, I give you. I give it to you from the
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perspective of the listener, a radioguy or somebody who is trying to find
something out of a song that youmight not have intended to put out there.
Then I will like to throw itto you and hear what you think
about that as well. So Ido like to get your perspective on the
perspective of the reviewer and also getyour real thoughts on a full album.
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I I will say that I willask this question, though we didn't get
to go over all the tracks,or is there another maybe one or two
standout tracks that you think that arethat we didn't go over That would be
pretty cool for our listeners. Well, then we have one coming out in
November. We've got a yeah,yeah. Around Halloween, we're gonna release
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second single, non Believer. Iwas actually thinking of non Believer just as
you were speaking, well, becausewe're non believers, and I was thinking
over that track before. That's right, if you believe? Yeah, after
a while you just stopped. Youyou know, witchies in there, so
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you know, do you believe?I always thought the flat Earthers were a
joke group. Anyway, they're alwaysbeing taken way too seriously. Everybody knows
the Earth isn't flat, but it'sfunny. The world was proven. It
was the world was proven sphiracle.It's not round, it's spherical by Christopher
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Columbus. And it's four ships.Can you name all four ships? The
Christopher Columbus used an showed me aquestion, Oh how is it? The
four ships, the Nina, thePinta, and the Santa Maria. But
the fourth one is not well knownbecause it fell off the edge of the
earth. Ah ah, Well,to be honest, yeah yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah yeah yeah. No,to be honest, none of it
makes sense to me. I don'tcare. We're on the earth. Who
cares? Do I care? There'smore things in life than that, and
so to care about than that.So I'll get to that moment when I
decide I'm going to care about it. There you go. Can I just
say something you didn't? Did youask about how we got the name,
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Sergeant Belster. I'm gonna guess that. I think maybe I didn't, because
I know how. I'm pretty sureyou've figured out how you got it.
But let's give it to them.Let's give it to your audience if they
if they're not sure. You don'teven know who we are. So and
I used to be in the BellStars. And his second name is Matt
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is sergeant. And Matt came upwith a name, and I just thought,
that's a really good name, SergeantBelstar. You know, even though
I don't really like to use theold eighties name, I just thought,
actually, you know what, I'mgoing to bypass what I don't like because
I actually like that together. SergeantBelser. Sergeant Belser, right such,
you know I like that. Tonywould like that. Tony Shaffer, He's
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always been j to me. Iknow. Well that is that is on
your Facebook page. Sybody's following JennyFiner as Jenny bell Starr, but it's
really Jenny Mathias in real life.Yeah. Yeah. The other one.
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Well, quick question on the nonbeliever. The video is coming out soon.
What might we expect to see youor do you want to keep that
a full secret? Well, itcould be a bit of a surprise,
but it's not. It's not it'snot a video video animation. Oh it's
still a video. Yeah, it'snot a video of us two. It
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is a nod, which I foundthat quite But what's show with you?
Matt? His son? His son? His son did am I not to
say that you've got a son.Here's some Alex who is amazing. It's
just such an amazing young man alongwith his friend, did both videos,
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or at least he did the onethat you know and then but he did
this other one. And it's he'sgiven a nod, hasn't he? From
the other video from the from thevideo you've seen. It's a part of
that. In the video, Iwas going around the round that way,
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but you know what I'm saying,that's the only way to I look really
ugly in it. I'm you nowperfect perfect Halloween. Oh oh boy?
Alright, yeah, yeah, that'sthe excuse. Is it okay? Is
there now? But it's right becauseany animation and it is telling the stories
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about Matt said. Matt says,Jen, what don't you believe in?
And I was like, what doyou mean? It's like, well Christmas.
I was like, oh, thatkind of a unbeliever. And then
so of course I would have beenthere forever. Just huge. Yeah,
the Lincoln, that would be likea Rabel and it gotta da Vita.
I mean that's yeah, so right, that comes out at the end of
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the month. But we're gonna givethe video sure on the twenty fifth,
an't we. Yeah that's right.Yeah, we're gonna gonna send it to
Mike and and yeah give it ashot. Yeah yeah, yeah, good,
Yeah, very cool. I wantto thank both of you for being
out with us. Jenny, Matt, thanks for being on the Outhouse Lounge
with me once again. The albumis I'm gonna hold it up again.
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For the video people. The audiopeople have to just imagine it. It's
it's nothing stays the same, andit's mirrored here. That's because I have
it upside down, all right,boy, I'm getting old. That's what
is. Nothing stays the same bySergeant Bellstar. Uh, you can get
the CD, pick it up.I bled Amazon has it, but you
can find in other places too.You can find it streaming and check it
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out again. Thanks for being withus. Where can people learn more about
you guys on social media et cetera, et cetera. Well, we've got
to Sargent Bell Star page on Facebook. So yeah, just search for Sergeant
Bell Star and we're on there.And and the album the CD. It's
better to get the CD because youhave all the lyrics and stuff in there.
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And that's available from the Plastic Eggmegastore, which is you get these
details to visit the site where youcan get the album on the Sergeant Bell
Star page Facebook page, I meanFacebook page. You're on Instagram. No,
I took myself off that there's toomuch of it Twitter Instagram. Yeah,
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you said, well they won't putme much. I'm supprised elon hasn't
reinstated you yet, has he Hehasn't. No, he hasn't, And
I don't care. I'm busy,busy, you know. I've just been
commissioned to like write something three threeprojects for the community. Do you I
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have the time to be on Twitterand Instagram? No idea? All right,
Well, once again, thank youfor being with us. This is
Chris Cordiny, and thank you allfor listening to us and joining us here
in the Outhouse Lounge. MH.
Welcome back to the Outhouse Lounge.I'm Chris Cordeny, your host. This
is where we relax and talk aboutwell, you know, I can't really
say that on YouTube. They'll beupset. As I said, I'm Chris,
your host. With me in thelounge are two fantastic artists who joined
forces to form the band Sergeant BellStar. I like that anyways, Sergeant
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Bell Starr, I think you'll understandhow it works. Their album Nothing stays
the same as still with grooven,melodic rocking and quite relevant punk music.
Welcome to the lounge, Jenny BellStarr and Matt Sergeant l Nice to see
you again. Nice to see youtoo, and hear you. Because we're
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also on audio, audio and video, you can catch us all around wherever
you get your podcasts. Had tostick that in there. I really enjoy
this album. I'm gonna show itoff right now. This is the Sergeant
Bell Star album. It's Nothing staysthe same. It's it's quite cool,
melodic and relevant. You have allthe cool stuff, by the way.
I like the like the spirograph onthe front here, and thank you for
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the autograph's very nice too. Andman's got a story about the spirograph on
the front there, Yes, andof course there's patch as well. Yeah,
yeah, it was actually my dad. He's an architect and he he
he does a lot of precision drawing, and we I've got the original a
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picture of that, so where wedecided to use that as the front cover
and actually pure features in the videoas well. If you see the video
of help Me, it's actually behindJenny on when she's sitting on the sofa
in the video. I saw thatI was going to mention that, but
you beat me to the punch onit. Check it the video for help
Me. It's really cool. Butthe way I must say I wanted to
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get this, I was gonna saythis a little bit later on, but
since you brought the video up,Jenny, you make a fine news anchor.
Matt, you make a stillar weatherman. The mainstream media is missing
some serious nothing compared to us kiddingme. Yeah, I love all this
stuff that Matt was doing on theweather thing. How long before you guys
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get kicked off mainstream media? Wellhe's not as bad as me, but
well, I guess what's happen now? It only matters that you look good.
I guess right. Yeah, yeahfor music. Yeah, this is
a new project with both of you, but you've done a lot before.
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Let's talk about your musical history together. Well, I guess I guess it
started on the on the Scar Curcy, didn't it, Jenny? Kind of
about ninety two we met on theScar circuit. We used to play play
it's called the Roby in Finsbury Park, the George Roby. Yeah, that's
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where we met. Iconic at thetime. Yea. And yeah, so
we we met and we just kindof clicked straight away really and then a
few years later I did a hugeproject for charity called Sex, Drugs and
HIV and I called Jenny up andasked her to do a track, one
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of the tracks on the album.So that was our first recording together.
Yeah. Yeah, but prior tothat, if you don't mind me stepping
in, Prior to that, Chris, we had read the boards in the
George Roby and I think some otherplaces. And you know how incestuous the
music business is. So he knowseverybody. I know, I know everybody
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he knows. And didn't you haveone of the guys from the Beat playing
as a drummer Everett Morton the drummer. Yeah, he was. He was
playing in the band that I wasplaying in called the Pneumatics. Yeah,
that's it. Yeah. Yeah,So you had your finger in other pies
then, didn't you as well?Yeah? Which is which were the scar
bands? And uh? In fact, wasn't the guy from Baby Shambles in
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the Pneumatics or is that that was? That was a bit later? Yeah?
Oh wow, okay, okay,I remember, I remember everything.
But so we were you know,we we just in that scene you meet
everybody all the time, and soyou know, and if you get on
with each other, which we did, and and then we just grew from
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there, really, didn't we.I mean, we'd see each other.
He did ask me to go onthat album, and I wasn't the only
person he asked. I mean,there was loads of people on that album,
and again people that we knew fromfrom from from that scene and from
Top of the Pops and all kindsof stuff. And and then you asked
me to do another song, didn'tyou, with the Gypsy something, the
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rock and roll Gypsy. It waslike a live a live band that played
the songs from the HIV Project liveand we recorded I think four tracks with
the rock and roll Gypsies, whichwere songs on the album, but we
did them gypsy style. Yeah,you came down and sang back in vocals
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on Easy Target. That's it EasyTarget? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love it. And then yeah, and then and then of course we
we did we did some recording withPower and the Harry Krishna's all right,
that's a good name for a band, Harry Kris to shave their heads,
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call the Christna band. We actuallycalled the Krishna band. When we go
out and we have all these differentartists on there, it's whoever's available,
isn't it, And what we dothen that's that's the only time we become
political is because of we're doing thewe're doing the the marches. So yeah,
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yeah, yeah, I mean wewe've had some we've had some serious
thousands upon thousands of people just followingus around like the Pie Piper. It's
it's just been something, isn't it. It's been an incredible experienced. Lewis
she was with us and talking abouthuh, that was huge. That was
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about one hundred thousand people. Itwas massive, and we were the main
band and people were just like peoplewere just walking down the street and and
the the idea being we've got theselike Indian rictuals, and the drama sits
in the ritual and then Matt withhis instrument walks and you know, just
walks by the side of it andsomehow he's like hooked up to some kind
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of amp. I've got a headmic on and it works really well and
the crowd go ballistic. In fact, I'm actually going to send you I'm
going to send you a copy ofthat a bit later. You might want
to kind of like insert it intothe thing a later day, but it's
really on YouTube. It's really good. I got to listen to a lot
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more of your music there, Matt, along with obviously when you play with
Chelsea M sixty nine and uh oh, I'm an eighties guy, but I
always I always pronounced this name terribly, this splodging, the splodge of messabouts.
Yeah, there you go, butit kind of kind of means a
big mess all about. Yeah.I've become a big fan of your bass
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style, and I got to heara lot of that in this album.
We're going to be talking about thatsoon. I put you up there with
some of my favorite Bassis, likelike Colin Gregson, all right, there
we go. That's a that's abad news reference for anybody who doesn't know
about bad news out there. Butthat's like, got to stick that in
there. But I've watched I've watchedthat film so many times. I don't
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be too I was. I stillthink bad News is better than spinal tap.
I don't care where anybody stays inAmerica. It's just the first one
is brilliant. Yeah, yes,yes, absolutely So how did you How
did your family to said, hey, let's put an album together. Well,
I think we talked about it fora long time, you know,
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since we recorded on the HIV project. We did. The song we did
was called Private Agenda, and itwas just such a lovely song. And
we'd always talked about doing an albumtogether, and Lockdown was the perfect time,
you know. I mean we hadtime on our hands, you know,
we were all lockdown. We couldn'tgo out, so that's when we
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started writing, so it was perfecttime to do it. Really, the
lockdown was bad here, but Iheard it was a lot worse in the
UK and Australia. I know aboutthat. I mean I literally didn't didn't
leave the house for about five months, you know, literally, you know,
didn't go out at all, youknow, so I'll get it with
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it was that bad all over theplace. Although I haven't said that,
yeah, I mean I didn't realizethat you hadn't done that for five months.
Matt lives quite far a distance fromme. But the other side of
the river, the other side ofthe river. That's that's as far as
I'm concerned, other side of theriver. Yeah, there you go for
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me. Cheeky old Jen. Ourfriend Para who runs the who runs free
for all. He he called me. He called me up, He said
Jen, and he said, whatwe're going to do? And I said,
well, yeah, what are wegoing to do? The homeless are
still out there, they me feeding. What's going to happen to them?
So he said, look, Jen, call on mate. We had a
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friend right he was in in thisset in this late seventies band punk band
called the Vibrators, and he wasthe lead singer of this band, the
Vibrators, And he has he hasa charity shop and music charity shop literally
round the corner. And I calledhim up and I said to him,
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you know, we need you,We need your keys and he said,
yeah, you can have them,but what for us if the homeless everyone
needs feeding. So he came downpast the keys immediately, and you know,
and that was me getting out onthe second day. But when I
got out on the second day inLondon, there was no one around.
It was like a ghost town,you know. So but still people needed
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feeding and they still you know,some people that found out where we were
because we were blaring the music loudenough. They found out where we were
and they got fit there. Butthere were pockets of you know, places
where they were so scared that theykind of stayed in and that's what they
did. You know. It's thefear porn from from the newspapers that got
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everybody going, ah, yes,the fear porn. That's uh. I
like that term, by the way, because it just sounds about right.
People seem to it was something toscare people for a long term the government
used, but I do believe peoplefeed off it nowadays. I mean the
regular person, they seem to notuh not be sure themselves or not be
uh not be complete without maybe fearingsomething they're told to fear. Anymore these
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days, part of the system reallyisn't it. You know, this is
why it's good to do music.This, This is why we keep our
hand in music and and put thatto the wayside once this once in a
while and just go, you knowwhat. I think that's that. That's
what the album was all about.Really in a way, it's just like
finding another outlet too, because everythingelse around us was chaos at the time
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in terms of everybody being you know, lockdown and uh just doing things that
they would never have done had theynot been locked down. I've just noticed
there's no lights on them here,can you just because I'm getting darker?
Yeah, okay, that's okay,Now we're good here. We can actually
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have you to change the lights becausemost people are going to be listening on
the audio anyway, so that's good. They're not worried about that. But
there there we go. But thethe the band, let's put this way,
you guys put this band together.Sergeant Bellstar. I do like the
name because and I don't want toshow this patch again for those who are
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watching, those who are listening aren'tgonna be able to see this. Cool
patches like the have the three stripedsergeant like you have in I guess the
three striped sergeant in in America becausenot pointing down, so it's not the
f troop, uh, cavalry sergeant. And you have the star under that,
which is pretty cool because uh,there is a sergeant major rank here
that actually has that with rocky horseson the bottom. I'm yapping up a
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little bit here, but I likethe logo. So the artwork and the
logo very cool. Let's get intothe album though. Songs are songs are
quite relevant as to today. Again, let a melodic punk. I do
want to point out there is areally snazz in reggae tune movie, if
you Wilson. So we're in theleisure suit for this. But let's go
the first track, Well, thefirst track released as a video helped me.
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It's pretty much telling us what's goingon today and we're getting sick and
tired of it. And let metell you something, we all need some
help. Yeah, I mean,it was all need especially you, Chris.
Yeah. I mean it's kind ofpretty self explanatory. You know,
you're looking at something on the you'refed up of whatever it is you're seeing
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on the I mean, what whatwhat's your take on it? On that
song yourself. Well, I thinkit's I think it was just you wrote
the lyrics. It's such a darktime during lockdown and as we were coming
out, so there were a lotof things, you know, dark issues
that I think you covered. Andyou know, that's what I like about
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it. It's not kind of Imean, it's kind of kind of jolly,
but in a in a kind ofdeep sense, you know that that's
kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember what it's called.
That's what it was. It wasa name for it wasn't there, And
I think it was something around youknow, macab comedy. Here we go
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with me on the out house lounge, meant sergeant and Jenny Mathias. They
are Sergeant Bill Starr. I enjoyedthe video too, and as I said,
you cut off to a lot ofcool scenarios. Jenny, you played
a character who is really just sickand tired, waking up in a room
and just like watching these things ontelevision, the news media repeating things back
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and forth. They want you tohear. But we get propaganda at in
Ukraine. Sometimes you can think theworst stuff comes actually from our mainstream media
sources. We say Russian propaganda orforeign propaganda. A lot of the propaganda
comes from within, and we areall sick and tired of it. Yeah
yeah, I mean that's what thatwas saying. As soon as you put
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the TV on, it's the sameold thing, the same old thing,
And afterwards you're just like, youknow what, I've had enough. So
that's what that kind of like throwingthe throwing the remote control and like just
going out to the park. Andthen as you're going out into the park,
he's reading that, he's reading thepaper. It's the same thing on
the front news. Give us abreak here, you know. So so
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it's like a subtle dig to,you know, just give us our lives
back and bug off, you know. But they're not going to do that.
Once they do, once they pusha lot in there, once they
start giving money away to something,the governments never take it back. And
yeah, after a while we're goingto be screaming help me when this stuff
continues. Yeah yeah, well yeah, So what other tracks did you like?
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Chris? Well, first, Ijust want to I want to throw
a couple more questions about this videothe base. First off, first of
all, pumps here, I wantto I want to note that your lyrics
and the music and the singing tellsthe story absolutely fantastic, fantastic, like
if you well that's not even areal word, but meant the bass actually
does help tell this story as well. You're pumped through this like like it's
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uh, it's urgent. The sound, the lyrics, recervergency and sort does
the beasts. It works together.Well, I like that much. Yeah,
listen to it, right, Andand by the way, I do
have to ask another question, right, how good of both of you at
chess? And what's your favorite openingor what's the opening and normally employed well,
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actually I'm a royal. When wewe we set the chess board up
for the video shoot and then bloodyMatt and play this, I said,
show you the horses go to upand once once to the left or one
to the right, and so I'llshow how to play it. And then
and then uh then and then ofcourse the bit where I throw the chess
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pieces off. And that was thatwas. That was about the long and
the short of it. I alwayslove the fact and the fact that I
won. Apparently apparently you did.I think I did on one occasion.
Anyway, Yeah, the guy thatknocks the pieces off the board. Generally,
Generally it is just the upset guy. I've seen that quite a few
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times. I've never done it.I've never done. The worst thing I've
ever done in chess is like makesomebody chase me around to a stalemate,
so they just can't they just can'tcatch me. And that's a good It's
annoying to the opponent. I'll tellyou that. But hey, I didn't
lose, now, did I.I'm more a backgammon kind of person than
myself. I have to send there. That's a game I have to learn.
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I would like to learn that game. Monopoly King. Oh oh no,
no, I like Monopoly. No, no, no, yeah,
yeah, I'll get a bet.A few Monopoly boards have been thrown in
the air. People tend to tryto buy boardwalk and park place, and
they just throw all their money atthose, saying, people lent on this.
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They're gonna they're gonna give me alot of money. Chances. Sorry,
people aren't landing on that. Youget the small properties, make people
pay every time they walk by you, and get the hotels and everything earlier.
You get those green and yellow propertieseverybody seems to land on, and
the opponents are toast. You don'teven have to touch boardwalk or I tend
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to use the expensive properties for mortgagesto pay for hotels somewhere else. But
you know what, I'm not avery good player, so I wouldn't take
my advice either. Let's get tosome of the other great tracks on this
On this album, nothing seems thesame. The title track, A lot
of the tracks of a great melodicpunk sound. But too busy I'll go
to the title track letter because toobusy thinking brings truth to reggae. That's
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what I say, truth to reggae. Nice reggae beat on that one can
to take a nice turn on it. What Yeah, well the drama Steve
Griinger, he that was his firstreggie track, so he was really toughed
with it. So there you go. You know, that's his first first
ever reggae tracker that you recorded,So yeah, we're really pleased with that.
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It was it was. It wasone that's been around and Matt really
liked it and said we should dothis, and we obviously we changed it
and because obviously there has to bethe same thread like sonically sonically sound running
through and I think it works,you know, I'm really I was,
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you know, I'm really happy tohave not You know, when you write
a song, you don't want toleave the song on the shelf. So
if a friend of yours says,Jen, I really like that track this
wherever, and then you know,you add it into the fold, and
then you know, then it becomesour track because it's obviously we're both writing
it together. You're talking about themotorbike one, right, Matt, are
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we you know, yeah reading upinside my head? Ye yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, I can't even remember the lyrics.
I need to go get the albummyself. Well, that's the trouble
when you're write with so many people, is that's that's one with the bridge
where you go talk about the chittychatty So that's uh oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I see.It's really strange because like there's always
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we were talking about this in thestudio, won't be mad. There's always
something in a record or a songthat someone will like, you know,
and everyone will like something different.But I knew that they'd like the cheerty
chatty, cheerty chaddy geert jaddy.Oh yeah, we don't like you want
to hear other people do it,though. The chitty chatty gets annoying when
people just keep going on and getsin your ear and they chit chat about
everything like really silly er they tellyou what they think, and they tell
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you exactly what to think, andthings like that. All the chitty chtty
is really annoying. And by theway, I'm doing that right now.
So I'm going you are supposed todo that, my friend. Oh yeah,
that's right, just because you didn'trealize. Oh boy, this is
not good. I'm losing it allChris curdanity. Here on the Outhouse Lounge,
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we have Matt Sergeant and Jenny Mathiaswith me. They are Sergeant Bill
Starr It. Let's see, itdoesn't matter as another good one. I
like that one. It doesn't happenright, well should they? Yeah?
It's kind of got a slightly countryfeel to that one, isn't it right?
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I was thinking the same thing,but then I thought, wait a
minute, you go back into moreof a punk. We call it cowpunk
here, the country punk. Butyeah, I do enjoy I did enjoy
the little country twang in the beginning. That was pretty cool. The most
the most poignant lyric in that andthere are plenty of them. They will
censor you because they fear you.Let's put that together with help me,
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because that's what's happening these days.You guys get stuck and you're hearing all
the propaganda coming to you when youwhen you fight back, you guys,
and I know you've done protests beforeand you've fought, you've actually spoken back
to the government, but they,Yep, Jenny, you've been censored because
they do fear you. But that'strue. When you speak out and and
you they call, they'll they'll tryto shut you down as a conspiracy theorist.
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They'll try to shut you down assomebody who's an ingreat, we're uppity
or whatever else. And when you'reright, they'll still suppress it because they're
afraid of information coming out there oreven just just a second or a different
philosophical thought than maybe the normal.Right and that was which which was the
name of the track. Again,it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
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Well, I mean it does matter, but it doesn't matter if the track
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.It's very strange because when did we write
that, Matt, We wrote that, Like, how long ago did we
write that? Two years? Ago. It's got to be two years ago
now, Yeah, yeah, Ithink I think it was. It was
a year in the making because becausebecause of the you know, the situation
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in hands, you know, wherewe had to you know, if we
weren't lockdown, we would have doneit a lot quicker. But you had
we went into lockdown again, didn'twe. So we did sessions and then
we had to because there was restrictionsat the studio, so sometimes there's only
one person allowed or two people allowedmaximum. We do so much and then
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we'd have to take a break untilthe restrictions were lifted, and then then
we covered on with it. Soit kind of it was broken up into
a few sections. But yeah,we got there in the end. Yeah,
and the and the lovely thing wasI don't know, you know how
many English fans you know out there, Chris, where you are a really
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good friend of ours. Do youremember a band called ten Pole Tudor Edward
has been on with me several times. They had one at least three or
four times. He would play hisnew stuff. It was great. And
I just want to throw this inthere about ed by the way, great
presenter too, by the way,it's great great on camera as far as
game shows and uh, he hedid that. He did a Harry Potter
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movie for that matter, but Ibelieve it was only on DVD, not
the actual main movie. I'm gonnaI'm gonna digress because now you got me
talking about him. Uh. Therewas a there's a Norwegian band that does
ten Pole Tutor covers. Okay,yeah, so it's called I think it
was the ten Pole Tutor Vikings,I think they're called. And Ed actually
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did an album with them. Sowe talked about that. He's I'd love
to see those, to see those, Richard, he's a good friend.
See what happened was we went downto the studio and he opens the door
and it was Richard. I've knownme for years and I hadn't seen him
for years, and it was justlike this reunion, wasn't it. Man
of people, and it was justso nice And he himself is a very
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accomplished engineer and everything else. He'sa lovely, lovely being. I've known
him. He was my label mateand Stiff Records, you know, so
I've noticed since I was twenty one, twenty two, and it was to
go back and do that full circleand then to be the age we are
now, He's had children, allyou've you know, we've all, all
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of us have had a life inbetween that. To then go back and
then have to work on this albumwith with my good friend Matt and then
him, it's just like it was. It was really it was a match
made noven, wasn't it with agreat combination And I love his production.
That was I think that was theseventh album I've recorded with him, because
he's such a lovely guy. Wekind of because we worked. I did
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the HIV project, finished the HIVproject there as well, and we kind
of spent so much time in theproduction that we kind of got this telepathy.
We know what each other are thinking, you know. So it just
worked. And then when Jenny cameand it was like, eh, you
know, I haven't seen you foryears, you know, so that was
a that was a lovely moment.You know, I bring you together.
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I need that. I have tohear that now now it's in my head.
I have to hear the three ofyou together. That'll be cool.
I think we've got some clips inthe studio. I think, well we
should play those. I don't knowif we can play them on the lounge
because of the copyright thing. ButI'm gonna have to get a radio show
once again. Get the music outthere. That's what we have to do.
Maybe Don could play some of thatstuff on three sixty five if she's
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been on the show. I'm afan of hers as well. Another couple
of tracks you have, and notall of them are are are issue charge
or politically charged. You have somereally neat ones up and kind of fun
ones like I like, keep onsmiling because that's a good message to you.
You gotta smile. You know,it's right now because obviously I'm going
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to write political stuff because I dopolitical stuff, you know. But Matt
isn't like that. Although you lovemy lyrics, don't you. He loves
all my legs. He likes allmy lyrics, and I like all he's
playing. And so in that way, it's a match made in heaven.
And it's like you said before,Matt, it depends on the mood that
you're in when you you're given thetrack. For me, if I hear
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a driving baseline, that driving baselineis going to probably prompt me to do
something political. Where's everybody gone?Are you on your own? There again,
I am what happened? What happenedto you? Guys? Those had
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you on this solowly out just tosee because I just I just don't would
look next there we go. You'vemade me lose my thread now, Chris,
I am old you know. Itwas like take me away from something
for the second and I've forgotten whatI was going to say. Anyway,
and keep going, everybody keep onsmiling with kind of I'll get the ballad
of the air. It was thekind of the ballad y track, because
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most of them are quite kind ofquite uply, but that was that was
kind of the the laid back track. Yeah, yeah, but we all
need to smile. I know,we don't like to show ourselves as as
weak or anything, and we tryto we try to make sure we assess
threats when we walk down the streetor anything else like that. But I
believe people greet each other with asmile more often. We'd have a more
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polite so Sayty, we can stillkeep her guard up. It doesn't cost
a penny. I write the lyrics, but it's nice to hear what somebody
else gets out of a track,and it's never usually what I've written so
you say so, Chris says,keep us smiling. Oh, I really
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like that because you know it's reallynice. You know, everyone should be
smiling this, that and the other. But I didn't. I mean,
like the write the lyrics like that, but last mine. But it is
kind of kind of up tempo thatyou think that a little bit. Well
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for me, that's that's the balladof the album. But it's still uptemply,
but it's it's the it's you know, it's the slowest bpm on the
on the album. You see everybodythey're talking bpm. I'm sorry over the
head. Yeah, even I dothat. I'm not a musician like both
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of you. I'm the radio guy. Although although truth be told, I
do know all the language because Idid study music when I was younger,
and I play all the branch instruments. So which, by the way,
I appreciate the real sex and thereal horns because that that that has to
stay. Even modern music today hasgotten away from that, and that that's
that has you know, I'm gonnasound like one of those old guys.
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You know, these kids don't wantto play with the real horns. We
gonna always have auto tune and allthat. No, No, although if
auto tune on the vocals at all, that's right. We don't do that.
The best anti auto tune quotes Iheard, I don't remember all of
them, but I remember doing aninterview with Midge Year and he was rolling
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off about auto tune. How itjust killed it killed music when shared did
it with that song. She didthat song, I believe, and she
did the auto tune with it.The reason why it was fun when she
did it was because it was itwas rare. And it's a singer with
talent. It's supposed to be supposedto add a little bit to a song
to make it more fun, orit's not supposed to hide lack of talent.
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Mm otherwise I'd be singing, Yeah, you're right, it does of
talent. I've seen it, andand and then all of this, all
of a sudden, all the songssounds the same, That's right. I
just felt how sad because you know, you picked up on a good point.
You know, everything in our albumis organic, right, nearly everything,
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is it? Even the drums.Matt am I right to say.
I mean, I mean, I'mquite purist. I hate drum. I
mean, I like drum machines forwriting, but when it actually comes to
recording them in the studio, youjust can't get a decent simple sound.
For example, it sounds too fake, you know. So you've got to
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have the real instruments there, youknow. Well, the other thing about
that is every human moves at adifferent piece. Some move as well as
others were close to the others,but people move at a different pieces of
personality. In every drummer, everyone of them has something distinct about them,
especially the ones that are more wellknown because they're considered great drummers.
But they drum different ways. Theyhave different speeds, they have different techniques.
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You can't get that with the drummachine, right, true. Yeah,
you've got to have dynamics in there, I think, you know.
I mean, even when when thedrummers playing along to it click clack with
the headphones on, it's still meandersa little bit because it's it's kind of
kind of live, but the thethe click clacks keeping you in time,
you know. And you know what, it's the same thing about rap music.
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Rap music back in the eighties andsome of the nineties, they had
they didn't have well, they didhave some beats in the background they have.
They didn't overdo it with the beats. They had a real human beat
box. Those guys were the best. I love those guys. That's that's
really good stuff. Yeah, tosay that the other day, absolutely fantastic.
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I don't know why they I mean, they're really good. They sound
amazing, and then they do allthis other stuff. They bring in the
saxes all from their mouth. You'relike, where where's the instruments, and
it's them. I'm just like,they're fantasticic. And there was one comedian
I don't know if he's still aroundanymore. Michael Winslow is an American comedian.
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He did all sorts of sound effects. If you watch those old uh
Police Academy movies, Yeah, theydid the helicopter sound and he did all
that. That guy, he wasfantastic. There is there are people that
those are Those are talents that areextremely rare and a machine and again,
people sound differently when they do them. A machine cannot cannot produce what a
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human beat box or a human drummeror a human guitar player can can produce
because they're all it's just it's justa uniqueness to each person. Well,
they can't do triplets, just likerandom. They can't do anything random.
That's a point. They can't doanything random. Well, the best thing
about them is they keep a bee. You can't that you can't deny.
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Yeah, and that you know itis really good, like like Matt says,
I forgot Matt's name, then mygood friend for how many years?
Anyway in the meantime, No,No, that's the good think about them.
They do keep time. And theyare great for writing songs with the
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initial the initial thing, you know, we can get the vibe. But
then when you come into a studio, Matt, both Matt and I we
write for the Harry Krishner band,and we wrote a fabulous song called Love
Love Love, and and we didit with the drummer. He's got this
just this natural ability to drop somethingin. You'd never get that from a
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drum machine, you know, youcan't. And the drummer is a different
drummer and drummer. When bands switcheddrummers, you know, have you ever
noticed that? Yeah? Yeah,it kind of changes the whole band,
doesn't it, because all drummers aredifferent, you know. And if he
changed that, that one piece ofof the of the pie. Then it
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all changes, you know, withme on the out house lounge or in
the old house lounge, Matt stand Jenny Matthias, they are Sergeant Bell
Star the album. By the way, I'm going to hold it up once
again. The album is here,Sergeant. I'm going to show that on
the bottom here. Nothing stays thesame. Now I'm showing it to people
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on video. But if you're listeningand will have the link to get this
and you will see this very coolthis very cool design in the video for
for for help Me of course andon the cover of the album. So
that's that's all good. And onceagain I want to say thanks for this
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nifty patch here. I do wantto say and when I have Jenny on,
I like to make sure that here'sthe patch. I like to make
sure that I mentioned Jenny's charities andyou both do a lot of work for
Food for All. I know wetouched on it beforehand, but let's talk
about that and why it's very importantto have that and and maybe how some
of our audience, whether they're listeningor viewing, can help out. But
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it's it's a charity that feeds athousand people a day, you know,
more probably well from two to fivethousand, but there you go. And
it's yeah, it's just a thingthat's been close to our hearts and we
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just we just wanted to do somesomething for that, you know. And
the matchless gift thing as well,that was a way of making money.
And and me and Jen Jenny said, we've been on many of these protest
marches and the Christian has come withus and serve food. It's all free
for whoever wants it. And theyjust do such a lovely thing, you
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know, and so we we wantedto help and also we get free food.
We need, we need charities,we need, but we need,
but we all need charities that arethat are regional and they feed people directly
from the money goes. That's easierwhen there's a smaller group and they can
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feed people in your area. Whatreally bothers me are our governments. You
got the UK and I'm in theUS here the governments are worried about bathrooms
and uh what what books children haveto read and whatever affirming things in this
and that, all this first worldstuff, when even in our own countries
there are people starving, There arepeople who are trying to put food on
the table and are unable to.They don't really care about that. They're
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throwing their money around the world.Well, it seems to be globally as
well, because it's always the veterans, the veterans that fought for the countries.
They come to our van. Theycome to the van because they've got
nothing. And you shouldn't have aveteran that actually came to this country and
and no one's looking out for you. I mean, that's actually quite sad.
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And if you're a bureaucrat, pencilpusher who works for the government,
you get a pension, you getalso sorts of benefits here and there.
You're a next soldier if we foryour country, what do you get?
Yeah, you put your life onthe line and you saw your buddies die.
Sorry, but there's something wrong there, you know. But in the
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you know, so so you know, like what Matt, you know exactly
what Matt says. It's a goodcharity. It's a small charity. But
that charity, Chris seems to domore than the big charities because the big
charities are given millions and everything else, they don't feed as many people as
we do to day. No,we're near it. Yet we have found
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been going for now thirty five yearsand we have found that, you know,
a niche in the market where wejust get free food. We've got
Our approach is different. Theirs isall clinical fund raised, fundraised, fundraised,
roundraised, run. So they're fundraisingfrom all these these uh you know,
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from all these different places because they'vegot them. I need to do
the fund raising. Whereas our friendPara I think backed me up on that.
He does do fund raising, buthe's so on the ground doing the
stuff that you know, he's gotthe love of the people. He's the
people's charity. That's what I wouldsay. I think it's a great way
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to describe because it all goes tothe people. You know what we did.
I mean, he's just out thereis new journey. I mean he
was. He goes all over theplace. I mean when he went into
he got in the van and hewent in the war zone. He went
to Ukraine straight off the bat,I mean, mad you know, he
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did it, you know, andwhat an amazing thing to do, you
know us Yeah, yeah, buthe came back. I was in the
van yesterday. But when in theround. I was like, watch that
on the wall. It's a bloodybullet hole. And there's not only one,
there's about three of them. There'sa bullet hole. He doesn't really
care. He's just like, oh, it's going to look after me.
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I'm good to go. Let's go. And then you know, and then
he raised up like what what isit? Something like a hundred thousand or
something, and he brought them allthis equipment and he called up all these
you know, he's wish friends witha few pop stars and Chrissy Heim being
one of them, and and youknow, all these people came that came
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to help, and so we getour funding that way because there are people
that there are people that really likewhat Para does. And both Matt and
I are the same. Para isa closet pop star. He's the director.
He's a closet pop star, andhe loves obviously me and Matt,
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and he's just like whenever we doone of these events, he's like,
Jen, call Mat up, Cev'savailable, you know, so and and
so we'll all go up if heif he's available, with more and more
often than not, he is,we'll just get out and me playing for
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the thousands of people, and thepeople are absolutely going ballistic. I'll send
you this CD. Wait shod yousee it. It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
I will have to hear that nowto see more CDs coming from the UK
across the pond. That's all goodstuff. I like all sorts of music
anyway, So that's that's a greatthing. And no auto tune, right,
(41:24):
yeah, So I'm pretty glad youliked the album. This is a
great album and I used to doa lot of I used to blog when
I was doing the Revenge of theEighties show as far as the album reviews,
but I like doing them right herein the long from just talking to
you while I review them. That'sthe way to do it, because when
I review them, I give you. I give it to you from the
(41:45):
perspective of the listener, a radioguy or somebody who is trying to find
something out of a song that youmight not have intended to put out there.
Then I will like to throw itto you and hear what you think
about that as well. So Ido like to get your perspective on the
perspective of the reviewer and also getyour real thoughts on a full album.
(42:06):
I I will say that I willask this question, though we didn't get
to go over all the tracks,or is there another maybe one or two
standout tracks that you think that arethat we didn't go over That would be
pretty cool for our listeners. Well, then we have one coming out in
November. We've got a yeah,yeah. Around Halloween, we're gonna release
(42:30):
second single, non Believer. Iwas actually thinking of non Believer just as
you were speaking, well, becausewe're non believers, and I was thinking
over that track before. That's right, if you believe? Yeah, after
a while you just stopped. Youyou know, witchies in there, so
(42:54):
you know, do you believe?I always thought the flat Earthers were a
joke group. Anyway, they're alwaysbeing taken way too seriously. Everybody knows
the Earth isn't flat, but it'sfunny. The world was proven. It
was the world was proven sphiracle.It's not round, it's spherical by Christopher
(43:15):
Columbus. And it's four ships.Can you name all four ships? The
Christopher Columbus used an showed me aquestion, Oh how is it? The
four ships, the Nina, thePinta, and the Santa Maria. But
the fourth one is not well knownbecause it fell off the edge of the
earth. Ah ah, Well,to be honest, yeah yeah, yeah,
(43:38):
yeah yeah yeah yeah. No,to be honest, none of it
makes sense to me. I don'tcare. We're on the earth. Who
cares? Do I care? There'smore things in life than that, and
so to care about than that.So I'll get to that moment when I
decide I'm going to care about it. There you go. Can I just
say something you didn't? Did youask about how we got the name,
(43:58):
Sergeant Belster. I'm gonna guess that. I think maybe I didn't, because
I know how. I'm pretty sureyou've figured out how you got it.
But let's give it to them.Let's give it to your audience if they
if they're not sure. You don'teven know who we are. So and
I used to be in the BellStars. And his second name is Matt
(44:20):
is sergeant. And Matt came upwith a name, and I just thought,
that's a really good name, SergeantBelstar. You know, even though
I don't really like to use theold eighties name, I just thought,
actually, you know what, I'mgoing to bypass what I don't like because
I actually like that together. SergeantBelser. Sergeant Belser, right such,
you know I like that. Tonywould like that. Tony Shaffer, He's
(44:45):
always been j to me. Iknow. Well that is that is on
your Facebook page. Sybody's following JennyFiner as Jenny bell Starr, but it's
really Jenny Mathias in real life.Yeah. Yeah. The other one.
(45:05):
Well, quick question on the nonbeliever. The video is coming out soon.
What might we expect to see youor do you want to keep that
a full secret? Well, itcould be a bit of a surprise,
but it's not. It's not it'snot a video video animation. Oh it's
still a video. Yeah, it'snot a video of us two. It
(45:30):
is a nod, which I foundthat quite But what's show with you?
Matt? His son? His son? His son did am I not to
say that you've got a son.Here's some Alex who is amazing. It's
just such an amazing young man alongwith his friend, did both videos,
(45:53):
or at least he did the onethat you know and then but he did
this other one. And it's he'sgiven a nod, hasn't he? From
the other video from the from thevideo you've seen. It's a part of
that. In the video, Iwas going around the round that way,
(46:17):
but you know what I'm saying,that's the only way to I look really
ugly in it. I'm you nowperfect perfect Halloween. Oh oh boy?
Alright, yeah, yeah, that'sthe excuse. Is it okay? Is
there now? But it's right becauseany animation and it is telling the stories
(46:42):
about Matt said. Matt says,Jen, what don't you believe in?
And I was like, what doyou mean? It's like, well Christmas.
I was like, oh, thatkind of a unbeliever. And then
so of course I would have beenthere forever. Just huge. Yeah,
the Lincoln, that would be likea Rabel and it gotta da Vita.
I mean that's yeah, so right, that comes out at the end of
(47:07):
the month. But we're gonna givethe video sure on the twenty fifth,
an't we. Yeah that's right.Yeah, we're gonna gonna send it to
Mike and and yeah give it ashot. Yeah yeah, yeah, good,
Yeah, very cool. I wantto thank both of you for being
out with us. Jenny, Matt, thanks for being on the Outhouse Lounge
with me once again. The albumis I'm gonna hold it up again.
(47:30):
For the video people. The audiopeople have to just imagine it. It's
it's nothing stays the same, andit's mirrored here. That's because I have
it upside down, all right,boy, I'm getting old. That's what
is. Nothing stays the same bySergeant Bellstar. Uh, you can get
the CD, pick it up.I bled Amazon has it, but you
can find in other places too.You can find it streaming and check it
(47:51):
out again. Thanks for being withus. Where can people learn more about
you guys on social media et cetera, et cetera. Well, we've got
to Sargent Bell Star page on Facebook. So yeah, just search for Sergeant
Bell Star and we're on there.And and the album the CD. It's
better to get the CD because youhave all the lyrics and stuff in there.
(48:14):
And that's available from the Plastic Eggmegastore, which is you get these
details to visit the site where youcan get the album on the Sergeant Bell
Star page Facebook page, I meanFacebook page. You're on Instagram. No,
I took myself off that there's toomuch of it Twitter Instagram. Yeah,
(48:39):
you said, well they won't putme much. I'm supprised elon hasn't
reinstated you yet, has he Hehasn't. No, he hasn't, And
I don't care. I'm busy,busy, you know. I've just been
commissioned to like write something three threeprojects for the community. Do you I
(49:00):
have the time to be on Twitterand Instagram? No idea? All right,
Well, once again, thank youfor being with us. This is
Chris Cordiny, and thank you allfor listening to us and joining us here
in the Outhouse Lounge. MH.
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