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Welcome to our Jelly Outhouse Lounge Christmasspashal. I'm Chris Cordeni, your host.
We're going to talk about some ofour favorite Christmas classics, maybe some
of yours as well. If wemiss some, don't forget to put them
in the comments. If you likewhat we talk about, or you don't
like what we're talking about, Iwant to hear it too, but I
want to make it festive and fun, so I brought some friends along I'm
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very happy to have with me totalk some of our finest holiday music.
Nancy guatro Glass Rock Maven singer,former lead vocalist for Cradle and many other
great bands. We have Lieutenant Colonelretired Tony Schaeffer, host of The Hard
Truth radio show, noted whistleblower,all around good guy and walking Fisaurus,
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also president of Project Sentinel town Spy. That's right. I just figured I
couldn't say that because if I toldyou that, you'd have to kill us
all now that would put a damperon the Christmas special. I have a
listen with Breconcamp. She is alsothe co host of The Truth Central Voice
actress, and you'll be seeing heron a lot more things in the future
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as well Don Perry, creator ofthe Legacy chart, producer and presenter of
several radio shows and on three sixfive Radio. Also with us is Jeremy
Kennedy, cool guy and co hostof a totally rad eighties podcast, one
of my favorites. We had theguys on before, we had all you
guys on before. Now we're goingto have some fun with Christmas USIC.
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So first off, Merry Christmas,Happy Holidays and whatever you want to celebrate.
Mary rag, very Christmas from theUK. It's a nice let's put
some little let's put a little atmosphereon this for all of us who are
watching on YouTube. That's a nicetrain. I couldn't do the Roaring Fire
because maybe the Yule log will getupset at me. That's a different story.
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Yes on fire. Yeah, that'sright, there's there's a distinct difference
there. Well, I find chessmatches more intriguing than you and Brennard.
Wait a minute, that's a differentsong, all right, anyway, different
holiday. Get my kicks above thewaist line Sunshine. Oh my gosh,
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So I guess you're not Eric Swolwell. When it comes to a North Korean
spies, Chinese spy. There wego anyway, all connected? Yeah,
anyway, let's go to this.We have a lot of Look every every
Christmas time. I love hearing FrankSinatra sing jingle bells or perhaps Elvis sing
the classics. But let's talk aboutsome of our favorites. I mean,
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there were a lot of great newclassics from the fifties onward that that that
became part of our lives and American, British and some times world culture.
Let's talk about some of those.Let's see who do I go with first?
Nancy? How about you? Whatare a couple of your favorites.
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One of my big favorites is ElvisPresley doing I'll Be Home for Christmas.
We do love bing crossbees, whiteChristmas. I mean, these are all
what I heard in my childhood,so probably that. And I do love
the traditional I love the traditional Christmasmusic. So when someone an artist comes
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out and kind of does their thingwith it and I think it sucks,
Sometimes it does suck. We haveto admit it. It's a jolly Christmas
special. But sometimes when an artisttries to do a classic and or maybe
tries to put too much of aspin on it. It's not very good.
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There's some things I think you justcan't tamper with for me, for
how I like to hear it.The music is so subjective anyway. You
know, someone else on here couldabsolutely love what whoever does with something,
And I'm in my head going ew. It really is just what makes your
heart float, you know exactly.Yeah, that's how Yeah, I know
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what you mean. Like so manydifferent people have done their own versions of
Santa Baby, yeah, and they'reokay. But yeah, I recently went
back to Eartha Kit, you know, the very first video. Man,
she's just so saltering. Her voiceis just so unusual. It's like a
distinctive. I love her voice.Yeah, but I never really knew all
the words until I was really lookingat the lyrics and it's like, I
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love that song. I like iteven more. You know. It was
fun when Victoria Jackson did a coverof that for the Saturday Night Live one
of those years. Yeah, thatwas funny. Five Season has just released
a new version of Santa Baby,and I think the real test is when
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when they release a live version ofit, which is what she's done.
She did it on the Baby SeeLive just just went off like that.
It was. It's fabulous. It'sreally very very good. But she,
again, like well, like somany other singers, has a very distinctive
sound, and so it does seemto work. Mm hmm. Yeah,
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you really made that song is amazing. I don't care who else tries to
do it their own way, it'sjust not the same. The backup singers
also make it very authentic. Theykind of get eliminated in the Madonna version
and some others. But hey,again, you're right, Eartha. Kit's
the one for me, absolutely,And she was smoking and salty anyway,
so you know, especially in Batman. Yeah, she was the best catwoman.
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Oh yeah, I did like her. Yeah, she was pretty cool.
Don let's get to you. Iwanted to see this one for you.
But before we get to Tony andJeremy, you have special, a
special story about one of your favorites. Actually I do. Did I give
that away? Ready? I hadto do the intro? Ah right,
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okay, yes, I do.As as you know, Chris, I
work each week, I work withSteve lily White and and Steve produced one
of the finest of all time,I think Christmas Records, fairy Tale of
New York and you know, verysadly, Shane McCown has passed away just
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last well weeks ago, and ofcourse Kirsty died well. In fact,
the anniversary of Kirsty's death I thinkcomes up in a few days, the
eighteenth of December, and so it'skind of it's an emotional thing for him
as well. But nonetheless, wewere laughing our socks off about one of
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the versions that somebody had not justthe audacity, but the the I don't
know, the the indignity to evenattempt to do fairy Tale of New York
is the the one where I heardtwo really wimpy millennial type singers do a
version of this while I was shoppingsomewhere, and not only was it insultingly
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sappy, they took out the allimportant second verse because they didn't want to
offend anybody. Is that what we'retalking about here, No, no,
no, no one. The BBCchanged the original version and removed one of
the words faggot because it was deemedas shouldn't be there. But I mean
within the context of the song,it's it's correctly there because she was angry
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in it, and the lyrics tookShane. Shane said they took him over
two years to write the lyrics.He kept going back to it and recrafting
it and so on. Anyway,No, it is in fact the cheek
and the self belief and vanity ofJohn bon Jovi, who not only did
his own version of fairy Tale ofNew York, but he chose to do
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it that both parts himself. Whodoes a duet on their own with themselves
playing the other part? He did, He did the whole and it is
awful when you compare that to theversion, it's just like, what were
you on? Told you this wouldwork? Because it so doesn't. It's
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just awful. There we go.That's my that's my little fairy Tale of
New York, the one I lovewith of course the Pogues and wonderful beautifully
talented as well, Kirsty McColl andthe awful one John bon Jovi. I
do all of you, whatever showsyou've got that you do on radio,
please put it on. You'll beyou'll laugh all the way through it.
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I don't know if I could hearthat, Tony Yeah, any yeah,
you'll tied. What were some ofyou are a couple of your you'll tie
favorites if you will. I've gota lot. So I wanted to start
off by asking a question because apparentlythe BBC is out to change things.
Are they're going to remove trans fromthe Trans Siberian Orchestra. I'm just asking.
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I don't know, I don't knowher. That would be interesting,
yeah, so uh anyway, No, I I love some of their music.
I think that, Uh, theother instrumental group, I like this
met Ment Mainheim steam Roller, whichhas some really great Christmas tunes which I
always way and and just and thenback to the Sublime. You know.
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One of my favorite videos I actuallydo enjoy watching every Christmas the season is
Bing Crosby and David Bowie. Ithink they do an amazing job together.
A little drummer boy and uh,what was the other song? There's two
of them they sang together and itwas it was an original drummer boy.
Yeah, that was for the show. It was good and and and so
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yeah, I've always thought that wasgood. It's kind of a generational thing
too, you know. And Ialways thought it would have been great if
he could have got Bing Crosby todo Ashes to Ashes with him as a
duet. But he wouldn't do thaton the water. You have seen Ashes
to Ashes, right, it's agreat video, Major Tom and all that.
No, I'm serious, you guysgot to take it. I think
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Ben Crosby would have been great doinga Bowie song like you know, fashion
or something. I don't know.Anyway, I'm digressing. I shouldn't do
I would say that anyway. Theother guy I like hearing a lot about
he's got in a lot of troublebecause it's misogynousts now is Dean Martin.
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Are friends with Diana Martin, andDina does a lot of his songs,
but Dean Martin does a ton ofChristmas songs. He had my Goodness year,
He's got a whole list of them. Why Christmas, Jingle Bells,
I'll be Home for Christmas, BlueChristmas, Let it Snow a Marshmallow World,
which is actually a good song,Silver Bells, Winter Wonderland, the
thing we did last summer, whichis like, well this is winters,
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so I guess you know you canreflect on that, and Silent Night.
So those are all I think greatsongs from a from from Dean Martin,
and especially the one about when whenyou're drinking let it snow. Is that
the one where that was like tryingto get the girl outside? Right?
Yeah? Baby, it's yeah,yes, So again millennials ruined that one.
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Yes, they did that song.We're well let me just let me
just ask a question about that.If you've got if you're a guy in
a gal and you're both attractive andit's snowing, why not get drunk and
enjoy the snow. I don't understandwhat the issue is here, what not?
Not only it was coy flirting fromthat era, and that's what I'm
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going to say. I mean,that's the whole point of the song.
It was like an innocent flirting.Uh, maybe have to drink more,
baby, it's cold outside. Youdon't have to leave. I really got
to leave. No, you don't. It's like it's just flirting. It's
like, yeah, way too manypeople just take it out of context.
It's that's sexist. No, it'sit's not you people are you don't understand
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the the point of the you know, the way they were a song.
And remember the movie Elf when WillFerrell played Buddy the Elf and he goes
into the bathroom, he doesn't realizethat girl has taken a shower and he's
singing that. They're singing the songback and forth until she realizes Zoe Daschanell
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thing, that's how you say herlast name. She's like, oh my
gosh, he's in the bathroom.But they're singing that and it's such a
cute little scene right there anyway,and then right down bangs his head.
It's no worse than Susan Susan Gibson, the politician in Virginia having a doll
with her husband when they talk aboutecology, saying yeah, there we go.
Yeah, that's a good boy.She's never going to live that one
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down. How about that? Yeah, Susannah Gibson And Christmas. I'm sure
she has her own song for youknow. That's right. So Jeremy mood
around the Christmas tree, So that'sgreat. Jeremy driving down the riding on
the on the sleigh with your yourone horse pulling it, or something like
that. What do you like tolisten to during the holiday season. Well,
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everyone's kind of going in a conventionalpathway here, but and I'm okay
with that too, And I'm justlike everybody else. The music is inevitable.
It's all around you. But Ithink as far as remakes, the
best remake that I've heard, nottalking in the originals. The originals are
the originals there. You know thatthat's the upper echelon. I'm not going
to touch them. But as faras remake of an original original, I'm
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American traditional. Rather, I wouldsay probably Winter Wonderland by the rhythmics always
catches me whatever I'm doing to stopand listen, because yes, a great
way feel to it. And DaveStewart, you know, he is away
with noise and sound, and hetakes that song and actually drives you through
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a winter wonderland. If you listento you hear the cracking of the leather
against the horse, and and andthis the snow coming down. I know,
how does snow have a sound?Well, just listening to that song.
Any Lynx lover or hater she iton this song and makes it better
than any version I've ever heard before. So that would be as far as
my traditional song. And then ifI had to list my absolute favorites,
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they would all be probably songs youdon't know. Maybe satellite radio may have
touched them, but otherwise most peoplewould never know them. Like I'm a
very new wave student an I've cutfrom the eighties of the class of alternative
post punk new way, that sortof thing. Like Chris. Chris and
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I are feeding from the same treemost of the time. I like I
like Father Christmas. And I'm sureyou may know that the Kinks, Yes,
I have one I think you'll likeand Tony, I think you'll like
this one too, Dawn, I'msure you remember this classic. Oops,
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that's the wrong one. What ammoron? I put the see for those
of you who are watching, I'mtrying to do this while I'm We're trying
to do this as we're alive.But I like my Captain Sensibles one Christmas
catalog song that was a full originalbut neat song. You know, I
don't think i've heard that. Ihave to check it out. Yeah,
yeah, Captain is not sensible sowell, I you know, it's funny
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you should mention a new wave andI'm going more in the dark wave lately.
And I've been looking for, likethe plan of Zymol doing a Christmas
song, which I don't think theydid. Plan of X. There's a
bandmox alright, yeah, yeah,actually they're back together, aren't they.
They are back together. That that'swhy I found them. So, yeah,
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what is it? Clan of whatx X Y m O X.
Yeah. And for a brief periodin the eighties they were just known as
Zymox, but their true traditional namewas Clan of Zymox. Uh, it's
dark wave. Yeah, but it'sa Dutch musical group. Yeah. It's
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great to fly helicopters at the napof the earth level. And you guys
think I'm joking about that. No, I don't. I wouldn't even know.
I know you're not joking. Anduh again, if you want to
have a little fun here, yeah, I remember. Remember we used to
sing jingle bells Batman Smells when wewere kids. Yeah, okay, well
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there's a great version of that onthe Mojo Nixon and the Toad Liquors album
Horny Holidays, the one if you'rewanting that was. It has loads of
classics. They did a cover ofwhat was it the Sleigh Ride, They
did Boogie Woogie Santa Claus. Theyalso did it it was silly. Most
of what they actually did a verygood rendition of every day is like a
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holiday. Every day it is likea holiday. That's a good one too.
And what did they call it again? Well, Mojo Nixon and his
band the toad Lickers, at leasthe's been at the time, and it's
spelled toad Liquors l like q uo rs. The classic album was from
the early nineties, so it spelledlike Susie and the Banchees. Like that's
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right, it would like can rewritewith Susie and the Badges. Okay,
there we go. Oh my gosh, all right, now I have to
ask you, guys. There area couple of songs that I just I
can't stand anymore. I'm sorry.I want to throw this around and have
a little fun with it. Iwant to roast some of the Christmas songs
that maybe you either like or don'tlike. It's a couple. If I
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never have to hear Grandma run overby a reindeer again, I would be
very happy. Uh huh, thoughts, I was thinking of that song as
we started the show. It's like, I hope he doesn't bring it up.
Well I did. Here we Areisn't a popular one in the US?
Oh yeah, yeah. It's likea couple of redneck kids got together
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wrote the song. It's it wasfunny the first time I heard it,
and then after that it's like,yeah, you don't have to play it
again. Yeah, and then madea movie out of that, I think
too, right, Yeah, yes, a cartoon, Yeah, there is
a cartoon. Yeah, it soundsmuch better after you've had a fifth of
Jack Daniel. I think it growson you. I don't know, but
it's it's definitely like a red neckishkind of a which isn't a bad thing,
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you know, if you're that's youryou know, the kind of I
like in North Carolina and a lotof folks are from you know. Yeah,
and then after that it's like,yeah, you don't have to play
that any pretty much. The Christmasmusic that I don't like that I find
very annoying is anything with Alvin andthe Chipmunks. Seeing that voice, Oh
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gosh, it's just annoying. Yeah. Yes, maybe we're slightly maybe we're
slightly more discerning with the Christmas musicthat gets played than they. I don't
think so. I'm challenging you onthis one because the British came up with
one of the worst. Okay,this might be sacrilegious for you all,
but tell me this. It iswonderful Christmas time. Not horrible because I
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love Paul McCartney. I just cannotstand this wonderful Christmas time and one and
the worse. How what kind ofchildren take a full year, a full
year to sing ding Dong, DingDong, ding dong? All right?
I hear that till Michelle I said, they must be really, really bad.
Yeah, the short chorus, ifyou will. I've never even I've
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never even considered it as offending myears or giving me hear fatigue or you
know, I've just never considered it. Actually, I just think, well,
it's a Christmas song, it's anotherone. But yeah, so what
is it that really gets on yournerves about it? Chris Well? Definitely
the ding dong all right. Imean just the fact that the kids take
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a full year to sing it,and just it's too busy. But again,
I'm not a music critic. I'mjust a guy who's uh, who's
trying to hold don't know about musiccritics. There you go, you guys
are the music critics. I'm probablyjust qualifying myself and probably every Beatles fan
is gonna hate me. Now doyou play music? Do you play an
instrument? Do you play any musical? Yeah? All the brass instruments.
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You do, yes, and youstill don't like the ding dongs and it
still wouldn't chocolate filled kind that youcan buy in the grocery store that goes
ding a ding dong every time yousee is a pretty girl. I can't
remember what was his name, Dickysomething or other. Yeah, classic actor
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anyway, So you don't like it, okay, Else, what about you?
I'm I'm kind of there with you. With the Beatles and the yeah
that simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Never was a fan of that song,
Like if you took away the lyricsand the voice and just played the
music, the music itself, theinstrumentation is is nice if you just didn't
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or change the words completely. Butyeah, I think the words are kind
of silly. That is true.The seventies had some great synth because it
was really all experimental by that round. Then the Beatles. The Beatles are
okay, I can take them leave. I'm not a huge fan, but
you know they're right. I'm aI like the beat Beatles. There are
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a few songs there is I dolike. I still think we had to
get together as a group and dothe album cover of Band on the Run.
I love that album. Oh yes, that was that was actually good.
I think that would be a goodI do like John Lennon's Happy Christmas
War Is Over. I mean,I just I do like it. I
just I get the feeling that Iwant to go sit and smoke, put
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pechuli and put stocks on when Ihear that song. Painting such an image
darling. If you do that,Tony, would you take a picture please
and post it? Can we thenplease share it all across us. I'm
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not going to jump out of aparachute on that with that outfit, are
you, Tony. I'm wearing myShari Curry's Christmas shirt today. That's a
very nice Christmas tree. I senther a picture of it early. She
said, you know that's a that'sa copy. It's like, yeah,
I know. I wish I couldhave paid you for man. I think
she and her sister Shari Curry andher sister Mary Marie did a Christmas song
too. They did. They did. I've got to get their T shirt.
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Yeah, it's it's a good song. It's She also did one with
the lead of Ford. By theway. Yes, I just want to
ask Jeremy because we're all talking.He's off. Are there any Christmas songs
that you really don't like that youdon't want to ever hear again? Rob?
I think Chris neiled one or thePaul McCartney song not too great,
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although I love eighty synthesizers in thatsong, you know, drives it with
that one note the entire time.That's that's uh, that's my cue to
okay, soak it up. Butwhen it comes to the lyrics, you
might want to tone it back downin And it's not that I hate it.
I really don't hate hardly any songthat I can think of, I
absolutely hate it. But I dofind it'll be a little annoying. And
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as I have friends on the otherside who think that, do they know
it's Christmas from band Aid's like theworst Christmas song ever recorded? And I'll
ask why because I think it's fantastic, And they said, well, yeah,
but listen to the lyrics, youknow tonight thank god it's them instead
of you talking about you know,suffering death and starvation. Oh that in
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context, they're saying be grateful andtill that's what they're saying. Yeah,
I think, didn't I read it? And don you could maybe add to
this. Did I read that BobGeldof and Bono had a little head to
head about that lyric, whether itwas going to be used or taken.
You've had more than a little headto head occasionally. They're both well,
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actually, they're both quite diverish intheir manner. There's no doubt about that.
Both incrobably headstrong. But where Bonois, he's quite he's very funny,
he's very very clever, one ofthe one of the smartest chaps you
can You're likely to have a comeacross, very very bright, very clever,
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but you always get the feeling thatnobody actually really knows it, but
obviously a few do. And thenthere is Bob Geldoff, and he's quite
different. Bob Geldoff is very inyour face. He's an angry irishman and
he's going to tell the facking worldhe's an angry Irish and that's his sort
of you know, that's that's theway that that's just how he is.
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So yeah, and of course they'reboth from from Ireland, so they're head
to heads more than one. Andand yes, I think there was a
little contract about the lyric. Interestingtrue story one time in Atlanta. I
was at the hard Rock Cafe andKaren and Sarah from Banana Ema were playing
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there. First time they had beento America and Ages, but they were
doing a benefit show. Banana Remawere playing a benefit show. Backstage.
I was backstage. Sarah sat downand I massage her feet. True story.
It's just probably ten years ago.Besiding her feet. She's telling me
the story about making this song.They were I think the only female pop
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group that were invited to make therecord. I'm pretty sure that's true.
I see some other females there,but but they were the only female group
because they were pretty big at thattime. I mean they're huge and they
got When they're recording the song,Sir said, they kept telling us to
be quiet, and she said,we were. Our vocals were. We
were over overbearing, over louding ifyou will, everyone around us. So
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they told us to turn it down. So she said, we can't even
hear ourselves now, and we feltlike we wasted twenty four hours. But
anyway, it's just a funny littleended out of there. But I love
the song. I think it's great. Every time I was a good song.
I like it's been remade a fewtimes as well. Well. I
like I like Simon the Bond's partof it. I think Simon really knocks
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out the part I can say,uh, I can understand. I can
see where people can think that saythat the uh that that song was rather
depressing or maybe uh not as muchnot as jovial as a Christmas song should
be. But it wasn't meant tobe. And there are plenty of good
Christmas songs that aren't in fact overlyjovial. And there there were a few.
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Was what was it, Delly Parton'shard Candy Christmas or something like that.
That was one. I think themost depression was David Gettis's uh Christmas
Shoes. If you've heard that onefrom the seventies, I don't know.
Old ag Zion is pretty sad,and I like that song. I like
the Cliff Richard version, So Imean, you know, come on,
I'm talking about right lot more cheese. I mean, but there's on the
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Old Axion song it's a very soyou know, the snow turned to rain
or whatever it is, and allthat I saw my my old lover in
the gar in the in the storeand it and they get the six pack
and is a six pack of metaphorfor having sex in the car? Is
that what that's about, because Idon't know about no six pack. Is
it's either your stomach muscles, isn'tit. Well, that's what I'm talking
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about. It's like we got asix pack in the liquor store and we
drank it in our cars. Likeno, no, no, no,
no, no six pack in theliquor store. That's a six pack of
Foster's beers. Are I'm just readinginto it. It's like the end of
north By Northwest going into the tunnel. Yeah, I like that, she
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said, you Americans do that.Yeah, of course, it's it's too
much you give Hitchcock and Chris.One of the songs I hate, and
I hope you will all join mein my hate, in my disdain for
the song is girl Lives Holly JollyChristmas? Like, oh, they play
it over and over. Well,yeah, it's good enough to see him
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host the the the Rudolph the RedNose Reindeer Special every year, and I
feel very attuned with the island ofbroken is it the Island of misfit Toys?
And I feel very there we go, Well, I'll tell you what.
Here's something very interesting. Rude YukonCornelius was a man ahead of his
time. First off, he carriedokay, always carried safely, and when
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to use his weapon, and heknew that silver and gold were the way
to go. Yes, I stilllike the Heatster. Yeah, oh,
I don't like the heat Meister.He wasn't nice at all. Well,
the cold Meister was a little littlestuff. So the other day I did
a show the other day with DaveHill from Slade and Slade. A fantastic
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Christmas soul. Marry Christmas everyone.Yeah, it's a brilliant, brilliant soul.
And he's quite a character, DaveHill. And he calls from you'll
recognize the accident, Tony because hecalls from the Midlands where he went in
commentry will they speaking past a glassof wine? Look at you know the
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service here? Thank you from mylove, fabulous, thank you, my
goodness, and bottle suddenly as ifby magic. Good lord, Well,
anybody, that's your job. Imean I can't. We can talk online,
we can do all sorts of things, share music, opinions, but
we can't share glasses of wine.Oh well, never mind. I have
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to get shots of Jack Daniels bynext time. Well, you know,
a Slade classic reminds me of thisclassic too from Gary Glitter, another rock
and roll Christmas. Gary Glitter geminout to that just the other day.
Okay, he do one from prison. It's like like the fulsome prison and
all that is that a jump sting. But the man dressed better than almost
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anybody during that era. Okay exceptfor mister except for Brian Fay I saw.
You know, does Roxy Music havea have a holiday song? I
don't think they do. I don'tknow. That's a good question. Brian
Faerry probably does. Go back andcheck. I not literally released literally not
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literally released quite a few new songslast year actually, and they were really
good. He hasn't lost it.He's an old guy, he really hasn't
lost it. I saw him aconcert two years ago in DC. An
amazing performance. For he still hasthat incredible sex appeal as well, considering
you know, he's such a mucholder chap. He's definitely he married his
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son's girlfriend. For God's sake,he must have sexyp There we go,
there we go, right, Yes, I'm serious, I'm completely serious.
Wow wow, And don't call meShirley. That's paying the ferryman. The
thing about Gary Gosa, though,the most shocking thing really is that he
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got away with his antics as apedophile for years and years and is and
it was an accidental glitch in hiscomputer that got him caught. He was
so cocky that he just took thecomputer to one of the shops in the
UK and literally took it in andas they went through it and scanned it
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to see what earth was going onin there, they found all these images
of images that should never be there, but images of him as well,
partaking, which was absolutely shocking.So you're saying, so you're saying Gary
Glitter. Gary Glitter was Hunter Bidenbefore there was Hunter Biden, Right,
That's what I was just thinking that. Yeah, Hunter Biden thought, I'm
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going to take my laptop just toget it fixed. Oh, don't do
that. If you have anything onyour computer like that, don't do that.
Okay, if it's pictures and smokingcocin bit He's like, what,
no, I would say, dodo go and do it so that these
bastards can get caught. Only bythe way, Oh I know, but
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that's crazy now right, he's outof prison, is he I think he's
out. Yeah, he served histime both in Thailand and and and Britain.
As a matter of fact, right, I think he's advising Hunter Biden
now yeah, now with Slade andwith Gary Glitter. You have to add
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in the parody of of uh theseof the glam rock bands and the bands
of the eighties, those fake metalbands of the eighties that decided to put
out decided to put out a Christmassingle just to make a few extra bucks.
Now I know, I'm not sureif that's what they were doing,
because they're great songs, but cashingit on Christmas is one of my favorite
classics. From Bad News, Istill contend Bad News was better than spinal
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tap. Bad News is better thanspinal tap. That's right. I've never
heard of that one. Is thaton video? Now? Is it on?
Where do you get this, ChrisWell? Where do you get Bad
News? I mean I have Iactually have the album, Yeah, I
have the album. But bad Newswas the Bad News was from the comic
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Strip Presents where the band There Was. It was a mockumentary with about about
a fake rock band which involved AdrianEdmondson, who actually was his own brand
now. Rick Mayol was a RichardPeterson who was supposed to be Mike on
The Young Ones but he wasn't.And Nigel Planner. There we go.
I think I got that right.Nigel Jeremy, are you a musician past
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musician? Yes, Ma, Iused to. He used to beat things,
so my parents gave me some drums. So yeah, you were back
in my past life. Yeah.I don't own a parent now live in
Florida. It's nice and quiet.Yeah, a lot of seniors around,
so I don't. I don't beatthings anymore. Plus I don't have the
coordination that I used to have.You don't live with the villager. No,
But that's funny you say that.I've heard some interesting stories about the
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villages. You can beat a lotof things villages. I'm just saying it's
very popular apparently. Did you knowthat? Uh, demographically in the villages
And for those of you that don'tknow what we're talking about, the villages
is this community several miles long ofwhere seniors will go to retire. So
it's sort of like a retirement facility. And that's putting a small drop on
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the I know what you're talking about. You know but anyway, the largest
amount per demographic of square miles ofSTDs are reports. There you go.
I was about to bring it up. Isn't that crazy? It's right,
seniors and STDs imagine that that's awell I think about this. A lot
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of these guys are right before thefree love era so or around then,
so maybe I don't think that.I don't think it's that at all.
I think that we've got the samesort of thing here in the UK.
I think it's more to do withthe fact that it's you can't get pregnant
anymore. You don't have the responsibility, team worries of all of those things.
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So the women are kind of ifthey're all retired, they're a menopausal
or postmenopausal. The guys can goand buy viagra like there's no tomorrow and
make sure they can still have someaction. And I think that there is
that. I think they're liberated aswell, because you can go online and
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find who you want. You know, if you want a tall, slim,
whatever, whatever guy or woman orwhat, you can find it.
It's all there, and there areso many lonely people. And the other
side of it as well, iswhat's wrong if you've got individuals who are
lonely who want to get together,have some sex, have someone, and
they both they both agree that's whatthey want to do. The only trouble
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is, of course, that theymight be doing a little bit too often,
or not keeping things clean enough.I don't know. I think why
not. But I don't think allpeople, the old guys look like Patrick
Stewart, Unfortunately, I'm just sayingI don't think they all look like that.
Or Clint Eastwog Clinicewood still looks goodat eighty whatever he is, ninety,
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Yeah, he still looks good.Yeah, but I guess that,
you know, I don't know.Look, the older you can do it,
the better off you're going to be. It's good because it helps create
the conditions for human growth horm moments. Can I just take this very quickly?
Well, in fact, he's astar of it. This is Peter
Straker. Can yes, take thatone, and you'll mute out and we'll
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come back and when you as wemove forward. While we're talking about this,
so on a zoom in Is itNew York? Is it? Where
are you Chris? Somewhere in thein America? Anyway, we're across the
country, for the for the fortomorrow, by any chance, please,
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you're talking about three o'clock. Allright, we're going to just we'll let
go on back in a few moments. Here see if she's good, let's
go back to the STDs. Yes, talking about Christmas music? Wait a
minute, off topic? Yeah,maybe it's a little of both here,
but here you go. I thinkChristmas music, Oh boy, well,
you know Dean Martin who gets Iguess that's a good survey to do.
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Sometimes Chris whose songs is the mostlikely potential for actually catching an STD Dean
Martin songs or Ben Crosby song.I think it's a good survey to do.
Maybe a Gary Glitters, Andy Lennoxsongs or something like that. Anyway,
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this is our Outhouse Loans Christmas specialin case you're wondering some other things
here. How about the old Christmascompilations from the seventies and eighties? All
there was great albums from back then. I found one that I really enjoyed
and I played a lot of musicfrom it, so ir s is Just
in Time for Christmas I R SI R S. And that was a
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that was another great compilation of greatmusic. One of my favorite. Two
of them, actually two of myfavorite Christmas and one of them is one
of them is uh dread Zeppelin's versionof I All I Want for Christmas is
my two front teeth, But theother one is Wall of Voodoo's. I
shouldn't have given him a gun forChristmas. I've heard I should not have
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given him a gun for Christmas.It all began with Uncle Jack. He
made a crack and wouldn't take itback. Dad was drinking, and then
you know what, it just wentdown from there. Let's put it that
way. Yes, I shouldn't havegiven him a gun for Christmas. Do
want I think he came back atthe right time? Yeah, a gun?
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A gun for Christmas from Wall ofVoodoo. That was Andy Preboy up
front. By the way. Well, you know, I mean, I
know, I know that in theUS there is obviously a gun culture,
and but it's something that is soalien just really, oh god, absolutely,
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I'm sitting here right now with literallya dozen guns around. Now I'm
serious. I mean Uncle Ted,Well, you know, come on,
Nancy, we're friends with Uncle Ted. So birthday today, he's seventy five.
Well, happy birthday to the GreatTed. New. It should be
birthday to today's birthday. Cool.You know they're bringing back Miami Nancy.
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Does Ted know they're they're working onwhere the busses don't run another episode for
the for the new so he'd begreat. Yeah, yeah, So anyway,
I'm sorry, I'm getting off track, but they're looking at doing a
new Miami Vice apparently James almost maybeeven come back to it would be good
to students. I'm saying things Ishouldn't say about things that are going on.
Sorry, no worries. It's allgood because you learn about other things
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besides just Christmas songs here on theouthouse lines. This is where we your
backs and talk about stuff. Ido want to add one more assistance I
have here for the legacy chart.There are a lot of good There's a
lot of great new Christmas music comingfrom artists of the of our eras the
seventies, eighties, and nineties,and I do want to acknowledge some of
them as well. We talked aboutsome dreadful new music, and I don't
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name the artists, but there issome dreadful new music that how it's got
into the chart, I'll never know. One of the songs was put forward
to my Duke Box Jotment Show,which is a show where top world record
producers joined me on a Friday morningand we critique all the latest new music.
Nice. One of them just mademe choke and I couldn't believe this
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well known band that I've been tosee even quite recently, who are beltingly
good, actually was stupid enough toput this track out. It's just anyway,
but I won't name them. Ohthat was who is it? Oh?
They may not see this. Fingerscrossed, okay, the vapors?
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Oh yeah, I mean was itabout turning Japanese or something? Turning turning
Canadian? I think is the Christmasversion right? Wearing a We're not running
Japanese anymore. I do want tosay, and and Nancy, I know,
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I know you're here, but Ido want to say I had the
honor of interviewing your sister several timeson Revenge of the Eighties Radio Susie,
of course, and I do wantto acknowledge that a couple of years ago
she put together a really great Christmassong and I really, I really enjoyed
it. I want to give thata shout. My heart and my soul.
Excuse me, uh, get thatred properly because I have I'm very
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near set in my heart and soul. I need you home for Christmas.
It's it's a beautiful song. She'swearing all white in the video and it's
it's it's it's very different from howfrom a lot of the other almost all
the other songs she's done. Butit's a beautiful Christmas song. I'll have
to look at I've never even seenit. It's a beautiful song. But
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there are a lot of artists fromour era putting out our era putting out
some nice new Christmas music over theyears. I know, I guess was
it what is it? Jeremy maybeeight ten years ago or a little more.
Wang Chung put out Merry Christmas Everyone. That was a good one.
They did, and and ABC releaseda Christmas State We Deserve back twenty sixteen.
Yeah, it's got some funny lyricsin there. But you know,
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Martin's Martin frob being as suave asalways. He seems like a cool guy.
Yeah, I'd like to meet himsomeday. He very cool guy.
Yeah, that really cool suits too. Yeah. I once saw him pull
the CD out of his pocket wearingshorts on the sidewalk, wearing shorts that
we're going to a radio station toplay one of his tracks. They had
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him in for an interview and hewent and played some new music, pulls
it out of his pocket, noCD case, nice leeve. He blows
the lit right off and dusted offhis shirt, and if we take it
to the studio, it's the funniestthing. He's such a laid back,
you know, non pop star kindof guy. But then on stage you
see this big Vegas stars. Butat the Economy that's a pretty cool guy.
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I did get to meet him backstageonce, and I think that's part.
I think that's thanks to you,too, Jeremy, because I think
it got us uh to meet you. Got You've got him on my show,
My old ray Revenge of the Eightiesshow and we got to talking and
we got to meet him backstage beforethe During the show, he wore this
really cool burnt orange suit. Ihave to have one of those backstage regular
clothes. Regular guy. He's reallycool, really cool guy. Nice,
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nice fellow. We could have awhole show on Martin fry antidotes. I
can tell you some hilarious things,but not to expose him. It's just
some funny things that I think weshould do that. You know, that's
funny you say that ABC now tome are bigger than they've ever been,
watching them, mapping them out.Where they're playing these days, South Africa,
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you know, Lithuania, some tropicalisland off the coast of Hawaii.
I mean, they're just everywhere.And ABC's last record, This is Phenomenal,
debuted at number five on the otherBritish what is the BPI, I'm
not sure what the chart is,but debuted at number five, and then
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a couple of weeks ago OMD nottake away from ABC, but there's debuted
at number one. I mean thatthat should give you. It's a clue
about either the music is really good, or our generation has a lot of
money and we're throwing it at theseartists and buying these records and take them
to the top. Or maybe we'rejust craving new nostalgia, if there's such
a thing as that, exactly.It's a style of music. I think
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a lot of the people on thelegacy chart. I know Jen's been on
the legacy chart lately, and Ithink a lot of music that it just
has a classic quality to it.Well, the other thing is in America,
the radio stations and the record companiesare very Let's put it the way.
Back in our day, the radiostations would would play play music and
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make the hit and make the hits. Basically, it would make the artists
and everything straight. Nowadays, theydon't play something until it's deemed a hit
by the industry. And that's anotherissue altogether, and this is why a
lot of great music is not goingto be heard on major radio stations at
this point in America and probably movingforward. And that's where a show like
Down's is so important, because she'sintroducing the work and the craftsmanship of the
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people that we're familiar with and say, here, you know, they're not
just We're not just going to framethem back in the seventies. It's not
going to frame them back in theeighties like they They've developed some we got
some new projects and new music,and I want to present it to you.
And people are coming to her showand listening to that and saying,
oh, I had no idea thepapers, you know, I had any
of you. I thought they weredone up afore they were retired. Even
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alive, they've had some great news, but that just the Christmas one is
just didn't hit the nail on thehead. There wasn't a good one.
With regard to what you're saying aboutthe Legacy chart and all of the artists,
they genuinely are I think some ofthem writing and performing the best music
they've ever performed. And so it'sdiscerning music. It's a discerning audience who
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wants to listen to that music.But also it's revived their careers as well
to be able to go back outon the road. Because the people who've
got disposable income are the people whowere there in the eighties, you know,
who loved these people and with theirfans to start with and supported them
right at the start of their careers. And those are the people out there
in their fifties and sixties that arehappy to spend money to go anywhere to
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go and see these amazing acts.It's good fun very that's what the artists
are making their money, you know, by playing gigs, not selling records
or music downloads anymore. M pTH files is playing at Ideas and they'll
get a percentage of the tickets,so that sort of thing. But that's
where the money is. If you'reif you're healthy, and you're from that
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generation, I encourage you to,you know, make up whatever whatever,
put aside whatever differences you had withyour bandmates. We get together, practice,
get a good promoter, and getout on the road because you can
make That's right. There's no moreVH one reuniting the bands anymore, so
you have to do it yourself.At this point, we have to we
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have to wind down. We haveto wind down. So we've talked about
a lot. Anybody who's listening andwatching. If we forgot a song or
something you'd like to mention, putit in the comments there. Also,
since let's do a round robin.If we forgot something that you wanted to
bring up as far as a coolChristmas song? What do you think,
Tony, let's start with you roundrow. Oh no, I think this
has been great. I just wishwe had more time. This is actually
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enjoyable. And I think we hadto do more shows on Jeremy and and
and you know, don we mentionedwe've been talking amongst ourselves about doing Nancy.
We were on that broadcast, wellthis when we talked about doing something
on eighties and seventies and eighties shows. Remember we talked about that. Yep,
we want to hear it. We'dlove to do more of this.
You know, we talk about someof the great songs and how you know,
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some of the trends, and it'sjust things like that would be great
because I think so many it's notabout nostalogy. I think it's about the
fact that during during the seventies andeighties, it's a different time and I
think I don't know if it wassimpler or not. I mean, the
Coal War was going on. Butyou know, these sorts of conversations I
think just helps highlight what great musicit was and how a lot of people,
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to your point, Jeremy need tocome back and start making it again
now so you know, yes,Well that so we got we have all
of season two of the programs,so that's coming up straight ahead in twenty
twenty four. Well, I thinkthis has absolutely zipped by really really quickly.
And I'm sorry I was taken awayby a phone call, but that
was the fabulous Peter Straker. Dogoogle him. And last week we you
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were saying about any songs that wemissed, Well, there's a beautiful rendition
of Merry Christmas Darling done by BoyGeorge. And I was doing a show
live on my breakfast show last weekand I got a phone call and I
hung up on the call because itwas going out on air live, and
I just said, whoever this is, I'm very sorry. I can't take
your call because I'm live on airright now. Clunk just switched off.
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And then I get this message,a voicemail on WhatsApp. It's me,
You's silly cow. It's boy George. I just thought i'd phone you up
that chat. Oh my god.And then he left a lovely message.
And is there a chat on herewhere I could put the audible message across
to you? Or can you sharesound on this Chris or anything like that?
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There is a way to do thathere. I'd have to kind of
you, kind of dig around.If I had it ahead of time,
i'd be able to put it righton. So maybe we can do that
for the next program. Oh okay. It's a lovely message where he says
that I'm single singlehandedly saved, savingthe world of music for this generation and
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all the artists like him and soon, and then he finishes we love
you. It's just so sweet,but he really is very funny. And
I met up with him over theweekend. Actually, in fact, I
put up the Blockheads this weekend tostay as well over the over the weekend,
but I met up with Boy Georgeon Saturday and he's just scream He's
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just so much fun. And hewas doing Hook Captain Hook in the pantomime.
Peter Panny's never done it. AndI initially when we went to this
pantomime, I was thinking, whyare you having it in a massive sports
arena? This is crazy and itis the biggest pantomim I've ever seen.
It's all hanging on wires and allsorts of things, and everybody's flying around
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the stage and stuff. Anyway aboutnot long after the start of but when
you get introduced to Hook, thisenormous ship that is, it's huge,
but it's like a big dragon andsong. It comes out into the audience
and goes around through the audience andback. And that was why he needed
an arena. You could never stageanything like that. Yeah, that's fun.
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It was incredible. What was therea Christmas song? You said,
don He did very Christmas darling,Darling, Yeah, I haven't heard Boy
Georgia, but yeah, I dolove that song. Well, just love
me, Nancy. I have tosay, well, you sound so much
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like your sister when you speak.I know everybody says that, right.
Actually we do sound a lot alike, and we have the same sense of
humor. We're very like in alot of ways and very unlike in a
lot of ways. But yeah,we definitely sound alike. I hear it
all the time. Anyone who knowsher, especially, They're like, who
am I talking to? Is thisSusie? You do you sound that's identical?
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Yeah, it's weird. And therewas one question, sorry about this
and this is your show is overnow though, isn't it that the recording
close it out? I think it'snow the down Perry Legacy Lounge. There
we go. I'm in for that, Nancy, I mean for that guy.
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What's your question? It's just thatI'm fascinated by so many things to
do because it's so different to everythingyou know in the UK. And one
of the things was and you allsort of just skipped past it like it
was nothing, and I was desperateto ask Tony you mentioned you just suddenly
picked up a gun and there itwas, and you put it back along
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with and everybody said, yeah,any carry on, like what and I
want to Yeah, that's just sowhat what don't you get about it?
What? What? Yeah? Ithink it's because we don't have I suppose
because he will fust I know,I know what I'm saying. But here's
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the thing. Most people that ownguns, and I have them, we
have them. Most people that ownguns are responsible gun owners. Nobody is
going out there killing anyone. It'snot like it's protection for your home.
I'm telling you something. Right now, someone's coming into my house, I'm
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popping a cap in their ass.That's the bottom line. That's just the
bottom line. It's not a greatChristmas here. Well it's perfect, I
mean full disclosure. Let me justto let you know. My radio show
is sponsored by the gun maker sixhours, so yes, you know,
I literally will highlight them. Sowhat do you use them for? We're
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doing close up. We're doing closeup on Tony with the guns. Now,
really, you do you do knowthat I actually am a retired spy,
right, I mean I don't.I don't use them for that now,
but there for personal protection. AndI'm still a member law enforcement in
the state of Virginia. So Iactually I have to go do advisory and
support to homeland security people. Oursystem is different than your system. Our
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system allows for people in a varietyof statuses to be armed and prepared.
And so yeah, I've got bodyarmor within a short distance. I've got
an art style platform over there.And you know there's no there's no crime
in our area here. Well,no, it would be too scary,
wouldn't it. No, it doesa lot of time. I don't think
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guns stop a lot of crime.The wrong people have guns, Okay,
I mean that's where the crime comesfrom. It's the wrong it's it's just
the wrong people. But ninety eightpercent of gun owners are responsible. That's
about all. Oh yeah, definitelythat's the truth. Yeah. I mean
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my husband would have an arsenal ifwe had the money, and he wouldn't
do anything with them. He doesn'tdo anything with them, but he would
love having him. So it isa different mentality than England. I was,
that's right. So don you knowmy bond moment. I'm a retiredman.
So you know, we did athing a few years ago for the
International Spy Museum in DC and weall had to come in as former real
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spies and do kind of an assessmentof a James Bond like I had to
do Casino Royale, the new one, not the old one. David Niven
in a two pay was great,but I think Daniel Craig with a gun
is better, just saying if you'regoing to compare the two and I had
assessed that, you know the beginningof that. And plus my Bond moment,
my actual Bond moment is in theSpy Museum, where I have to
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do something creative. I won't ruinit for everybody. You can go on
the internet and find it. AndI used to joke with Mike Pompeo when
he was Director of CIA, Ihad to come up with a Bond moment
that didn't involve me shooting somebody,saying, if we did this, Merry
Christmas. By the way, Ithink it'd be a great idea to have
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a group, this group on again, to do something like kind of like
this only cover songs. Okay,let's do that. Okay, that's good,
Well we should lead off Maybe weshould lead off season two with that
and bringing a couple of other peopleand uh and have some fun with some
cover What do you think ones weregreat. You know, our opinions,
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its opinion. There are so manycover songs out there. It's gonna be
this that, this song, Thatshow could go forever. So let's let's
put that. Let's put that upfor season two. But let's also up
our Christmas special. And I haven'theard from Nancy, Jeremy and Elizabeth about
maybe a song we we might haveuh passed over at this point, so
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I'll just jump in real quick.My husband is a professional musician. He
grew up, he spent he livedin Ireland and the late sixties, seventies,
early eighties, and he was saying, by far, his his favorite
Christmas song is by you two andit's called Christmas. I don't know if
anybody's ever heard it, but it'sa it's a remake, but anyway,
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So that's that's an awesome song.Yeap you too. I like Natalie Cole
and uh Mariah Carey. I thinkdid some great ones. See I go,
I always go back to way beforeyou guys. So that's okay,
it's okay, that's that's that's whatthat's that's why we're all here because calls
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a great voice, right, fantastic. There's there's a song that I like,
but I don't need no if it'sa Christmas song. But when it
heard it it sounds as if ithad come from a movie. Perhaps it's
just like a about the instrumentalist instrumentalbands like Manheim, Steamroller or trans Orchestra.
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There's a group called the Future BibleHeroes. I don't know if you've
ever heard of them, an independentgroup spin off of a band called the
Magnetic Fields. They're from Canada.Anyway, Future Bapper Heroes. I had
one of their EPs is at leasedat the college station. I got my
hands on it. There's an instrumentalin there and it's called seeing Berlin on
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ten dollars a Day. I haveno idea what that it's about, but
anyway, this song it uses likea pipe organ, cathedral pipe organs,
handbeils and this really deep deep synthesizerand it sounds like a Christmas instrumental of
what a swort was When I sawthe name of us, that can't be
the right song, but yeah,that was the name of it, something
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about seeing Berlin on ten dollars aday. But anyway, I don't know
if it's a Christmas song. Idon't know if it's sort of a tongue
of cheek that I don't know whatthe meaning is behind the title. But
if you hear it, close youreyes and you too will be taken down
some city visionary city landscape in Decemberfifth, nineteen, pick your year forty
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three. It's really pretty. It'slike it's like it's like the Bob and
Doug McKenzie song to close your eyesand listen to the twelve Days of Christmas.
You thinking in Canada, a beerin a tree that's are they still
living by the way, I don'tknow. Yeah, they're still around.
I can't wait to listen to that. Now I have to as well.
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So now you enlightened us again,Jeremy. Yeah. The EP is called
I think it's called Lonely Days,Lowly that. Yeah, you know bands
EPs anymore. Most of most peoplehave no idea what that is. But
it's a smaller anyway as the EPfour five single, four or five songs.
(01:00:57):
That was one of the you doyeah yeah, ye, all right,
So because my son's bad hand toput a couple of those out.
Oh, so here's what we're goingto do season two. We're going to
regroup here and do some cover songs. Now, let's keep spreading some Christmas
cheer and I want to thank allof you for being here and thanks for
doing the Christmas Special, the outhand Stones Christmas Special. Hope you all
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enjoyed. Then if you look whatwe did, please comment, put a
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