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Welcome to Tlcome to the Outhouse Loungeand talk about don I No, I
can't say the word because you twowill get mad. It used to be
we were all able to laugh atour differences and enjoy a good comedy,
action or drama on television. Youknow, I'm a retro guy, my
modern clothing nutwithstanding. But these days, not only has material been watered down.
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And I might sound like an oldman for saying, hey, this
stuff isn't that great anymore, itthinks. The fact is producers and writers
today are far too worried about checkinga certain amount of boxes when it's casting
and with its storylines. So Ithought, is pop culture dying? And
let's start with television on this one. What's going on with TV these days?
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There are certain shows that we're greatthat'll never get green lit again.
Therefore, I wanted to bring ina panel of pop culture experts, which
I did. Joining me in theOuthouse Lounge our Susan Olson, actress who's
seen the downfall from her unique position. Lieutenant Colonel retired Tony Schaeffer, a
man about the world who's also seenit, and the guy who finally got
me to do some pushups. Fora change. I mean, look at
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him. I have to start outenough now but not enough and the Overlord
himself. Yes, my pleasure tohave Dicter van Dumkock with us. Greetings,
Greetings, Chris. It's great tobe here with Tony and Susan in
the outhouse lounge. I just I'mperplexed by outhouse and lounge. It's an
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interesting dichotomy as all. If Sinatrawas singing in there, would he be
like three coins in the toilet theyshine? Would that? Would that basically
be the concept? And where's where'sthe tip? Jars sit? I was
thinking of whizzing in the night exchangingglances. Well, no, not really,
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while we're whizzing in the night,Well, doom cock, there there
you go again. I I don'tknow where you'd stick those coins, but
Cap Weinberger sure knew where to stickthem, just saying well that that's very
that's very true. He did,you know? Uh? And we don't
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know what we don't know, wedon't and we don't know what the definition
of is is. So we're justgonna quote, yes, quote my late
friend Don Rumsfeldt. There's the unknown, nons and known unknowns about where those
coins go, and we don't knowwhat the unknowns are regarding those coins,
just saying you sure it's him andnot Kamala Harris. Oh my god.
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As I always say on Twitter,let's ask Willie Brown about Kamela's skills.
I always get so many people upsetwith me when I asked that question.
It's a simple question. I wouldthink it would be simple to answer,
but nobody wants to answer it.I don't know why. Here we are
talking about retro TV and we're gonnaget in trouble already. That's that's a
good thing. The funny thing ishere is pop culture. Pop culture is
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devolved, all right. Let's faceit. The television program as we watch
this these days provides a good owner'smanual of wope culture, and it's perhaps
undue influence on what we all seewatching here on media outlets. I'm not
trying to be divisive. This isan observational thing. In fact, there
are a bunch of shows we thoughtwere great in their day which would melt
today's snow flakes and strike enough bearinto television exects hearts that they never get
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greenlit today or without some major amongenizedadjustments. It seems watered down as the
new strategy with most of pop cultureand TV is no exception. Doom Cock,
you're there. You're a long timepop culture commentator. I hate to
use the term no words, butI just had none, So you're just
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coined a phrase or non phrase asthe case. Maybe let's start edgy.
Comedy is mostly dead, and sois the family comedy. Yeah, well,
comedy is really under isn't it.I mean, you know, comedy
is born of pain, and snowflakescan't handle pain, so they are really
antithetical to comedy. Comedy is thegreatest weapon that we have against rampant wokenness
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because they have no they have noway to respond to it. They have
no way to respond to wit,to uh, satire, to mockery,
and thus those are our greatest weaponsagainst them. The family, the family
shows died too, Susan, Well, the family has died, the families
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being destroyed. Um, that's thelast thing that the totalitarians want are well,
for one thing, I realized Ihad the unfortunate being backstage UM on
a talk show when Elizabeth Warren wason stage and talking about her dreams for
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the for the future of America,And it seems so clear to me she
kept emphasizing daycare so much as like, oh, okay, I get it.
You want the state to raise thekids, you certainly don't want the
parents to. And they're doing everythingthey can tom to nullify the parents,
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to give the parents no power intheir kids' lives. And I often think,
yeah, I was from the BradyBunch, and if we keep going
the way we're going, there's there'sno doubt that that my show would be
banned because it shows something. Itshows too many forbidden things, like,
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for one, a lifestyle a standardof living that can no longer be achieved
by the middle class. You've gota nuclear family with two parents, and
the father isn't an idiot, that'sright. He's not the butt of every
joke in the entire comedy. Yeah, I understand that trope from the old
days, back in the father who'sthe more thirty figure, is a little
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bit of a bumbler. But evenduring the plessing. Example is the Dick
Van Dyke show. Okay, thegay tripped over things, but he was
still pretty cool. He got thingsdone, yeah, and he was funny
to go out, and he wasn'tidiot. Yeah, they got to pay
for groceries. Yeah. And alsoMike Brady built the damn house. I
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mean he was an architect the housesix kids, which he might not have
been the best architect. Well heateda whole extra like three other kids when
he built it. You know,I mean you know, I mean it
was there and they were living it. You know, there were three men
living all together and they were okaywith one bathroom because you know, it's
just they had gotten the yard orwhatever. Yeah, you know, guys
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like an outhouse like Chris has inthe background and nobody better. At least
it vibrates too. Made Alice's jobso hard. But when when Bobby put
all that dash in it whatever wasor the remember that one. But that
was the things that Susan this backin that era. There was my three
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sons, which I enjoyed is Iwas really young when my three sons was
out, and uh, you knowwith one one father, you know,
raising the kids and then um,uh my gosh, Wally with the b
Yeah that's right, that's right.Yeah, if you're the revenge remember word.
They had a great thing on MysteryScience Theater three thousand where they're making
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fun of Ward as uh, youknow, as a character. But Ward
was still cool, right, Imean with the pipe and the whole.
But yeah, I was gonna say, according to the Revenge of the Nerds
movie, right, he said thedirtiest words ever on television until maybe uh
Dennis Friends showed his rear end somewherealong the line something like that. That
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is on NYPD Blue. That's anothermovie series we're looking get into the cop
shows. The cops shows are weirdtoo, and I know we're bouncing around
a little bit. So if youhave a comment, I think we're going
to be missing something. You havean idea or a show you think we
should be putting on. Well wehave some time, so ed into the
comments section, and of course subscribeto the channel. The Cops show is
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a little weird because after the GeorgeFloyd worship for that a couple of months,
it winds up the police, thepolice positive shows. These activists tried
to pull them off the air,and a lot of the cop adventure shows
were not. The cop action showshave been watered down to the point where
even the Chicago PD guys weren't beatingup the criminals anymore. Yeah, yeah,
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it's all about having compassion for thebad guys and the good guys that
might be defending themselves a little there. The criminals. Well, you know,
there's a show that's been remade whichI can't watch because it's not watchable
in my judgment, which is acop show, which is Hawaii five.
Oh the I love Steve mcgarrett,I love Dono, I loved Chinho,
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I loved one Fat who the Chinesespy who boy, talk about prescient,
talk about the Chinese getting into everything. Yeah, it's like they were way
ahead of the curve on that.And I can't watch the Current because it's
all kind of woke trop tropes.It's all kind of like there's no great
plot, that's just kind of thesame thing done in the twenty first century
format that has no real soul.I think a lot of these things Chris
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don't have a soul to them anymore. That's very true. I Mean the
problem is it's made by Kurtzman.Yeah, really, start Trek for God,
so you expect y five vo tobe any any good at all.
I mean they even butchered the themesong for God's Sakes, and that's one
of the greatest theme songs. Itell you could listen to it all day.
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It's a great song, outstanding,And I want I want to work
back to one one thing. Iwant to make up talking about my three
sons. And I have a greathatred and loathing of the New England Patriots.
You know, uh Belichick and andyou know that effing you know Brady,
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Uh the wrong kind of Brady here? Yeah? And is it just
me? I always I always likescornfully called Belichick uncle Charlie because he looks
just like Uncle Charlie. Oh damnit, don't ball exactly. Have you
ever noticed that that really that bringsup a memory bubble? Remember Petticoat Junction?
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Yes? And Uncle Joe, Yeah, exactly, Uncle Joe. He's
moving kind of slow. I alwaysthought it was great they had the women
skinny dipping in the beginning of thatseries. Wasn't that great? I mean
the drinking water Earth, so youget to drink their bathwater literally and nobody
will never make that. Nobody couldplay. You know, they were bottling
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it and taking it over, youknow, count out a bug tussle,
you know the rock social yea andand that and Beverly Hillbillies and oh I
love Green Acres. I love GreenAcres. That Eddie Albert on the tractor.
It is just that that does itfor me. Every time those shows
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were already persied. In the earlyseventies, there was the was it the
Green Removal or something like that.It was was the country genocide. You
know. They canceled gun Smoke,they canceled Petticoat Junction, they canceled Beverly
Hillbillies, they canceled Green Acres.I mean it was like a like an
urban renewal project. They got ridof heehaw uh you know, and and
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and uh yeah, And it wasa big, big shift. They figured
that, you know, urban wasthe new in thing. And and Norman
Lear comedies came in, which Ilove the Norman Leri comedies, but uh,
you know, I mean it reallywas a great shift away from that
demographic. You'll lead me into somethingdoom cock because you think about it,
we're in a very woke, preachyera right now. But back in the
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seventies, the Norman Lear comedies werethe woke, preachy comedies of their time.
Well, they weren't exactly woke inthis sense. Now there were more
let's say politically active. The thingis, though, you'd think I don't
think any of the Lear comedies wouldbe greenlit today, not a single one.
Perhaps Jeffersons, but I even doubtthat, I think about it.
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These kids cry when they see ArchieBunker on television. He's so he's so
racist. He's the guy actually hadone of the most interesting arcs of character
growth in the years during his twoshows than any character in television history.
But people don't see past a coupleof the jokes here and there, right,
And the fact is, I stillthink Meathead was the bad guy anyway.
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He still was now in real lifeby the white Yes, I liked
them all. I mean, theywere all really human beings. And that
was the genius of Norman Lear's writingis that, you know, sometimes Archie
was wrong, sometimes Meathead was wrong. Sometimes Aria was wrong. You know.
The only one that never really waswrong was Edith. She was like
a like a saint because you know, the you know, patron saint of
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dig bats, and she would justout of the mouth of babes. You
know, she was so innocent thatshe was kind of the you know,
wandering fool that that spoke truths toeverybody that always got them worked up.
It was a It was a veryreal, warm show. And uh,
I'll never forget the when when Mikeand Gloria moved out and that scene where
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you know, Archie was, youknow, saying goodbye to Mike on the
porch, and uh, it wasso sincere, you know, that family
dynamic. It was one of themost moving, uh moments of television I've
ever seen in my life. AndI love all in the family, dear,
but that's a child. I shouldn'thave loved it, but but I
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did. I saw the humor init, Susan. But that's one of
the points, it seems to me. And I'm speaking of you specifically in
others. You had people who knewhow to act on TV back in those
days. Well, and you havepeople that knew how to write now that
think about the lack of creativity thatwe're seeing today, don't you think a
lot of that is due to diversityhires? Yeah, all those jobs not
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because the great artists. And Ifeel really feel bad for children of color
because they have to settle for handme down heroes. You know. Old
Now we're going to give you ablack little mermaid you don't get your own
hero. Yeah, no, theseare these are your brother's old genes,
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but we're going to dye them innew colors. Well, don't you call
it cultural vandalism? Isn't it theterm you use? It's exactly correct.
It is absolutely cultural vandalism. Itis taking the things that we loved,
uh and and that are familiar tropesthroughout Western civilization. Really that that unite
us all in a kind of apop culture bridge and shattering that bridge because
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they're all about division. They wantto go ah head and and uh separate
us. Uh you know, I'llstar Trek fans now, I mean we
can't even agree anymore. Who hadfirst came up with cloaking technology. The
Romulans are the cling Orcs. They'renot even cling ons anymore. They're like
these hideous you know, refugees fromGame of Thrones now other Yeah, they're
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not cling ons, their cling orcs. And let me say this again,
doom cock for the audience to understand. Piccard is dead. He died in
season one at Picard. I don'tknow why anybody's watching it now. He's
a freaking robot. For God's sake, you know who wants to watch a
freaking robot. Serious, I don't, I really don't. It just awful.
Hard is dead. He is dead, Get over it, move on.
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Data was dead too, and theybring Data back. Yeah, they
bring You can use some legos andrebuild him. That's not a big deal.
Here here's here's basically my synopsis ofPicard season three. A dead guy
in an android body named Picard recruitsa dead data from areas spare parts to
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go fight a dead borg queen thatalready died multiple times on a dead ship.
Basically the rebuilt Enterprise d that thatcrashed in generations. So it's just
all about death and member barries.It's well, so they basically did a
really bad remake of of Event Horizon. Event Horizon much much much better about
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the death, just saying dum clock. You know, if you want to
see some real cool death, thereis only there are two words described.
The only reason that Captain Picard wasnot the worst captain in Star Trek history
Captain Janeway. Oh yeah it was. It was an absolute horrible um.
The nineties, the nineties and twothousands had their share of terrible ideas when
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it came to recycling, programs andStar Trek. What was a voyager?
It was absolutely horrid. We alreadysaw a ship that got lost for in
space for several years. It wasa show was called Lost in Space that
was ahead of the real Doctor strengthwas better than Janeway. Just saying he
was he was better than Jane You, y'alls is not the reason why y'alls
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is season. You know you knowBill Mummy, don't you? You know?
Yeah, they're friends. Yeah,he's actually the man has what ten
eleven album solo albums? Now right, yeah he does. I loved it
on Battle on eleven Bands. Imean, the guy's constantly busy, very
calcold, very cool. If youBarns and Barns right, Barns and Barns,
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Fisheads and of course a great cover, a great cover of What's New
Pussy America. Don't forget America.Bill Mummy was in America. But if
you get in and know that,really what if he if he was he
was in America for a short periodof time. I didn't know that.
Wow, what he and I didnot know? That makes sense, that's
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but if you can stand listen throughthe country, well to listen to his
project as a band, that alsofeatured I forgot which which Patterson of the
Band of the Bengals. But theArctic Skulls. Wow, that's a great
band, which I did not know. That's that's a great fact. I
love America. That's one of theirsongs. I need great but boom cock,
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I want to bring you back toagain. I don't. I know
you don't like Hawaii five Vote,but I gotta. I want to make
you feel worse about Hawaii five Vote. The Ventures sent in a demo of
their song to h to compete asthe theme song for the new Hawaiian five
Vote. Right, they didn't makeit. They didn't use the Ventures version.
What are these people thinking? Ithink people? And again, do
you all get the feeling? Peoplesit in a room at the network's offices
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up on the Ivory Tower saying,you know, let's think of something instead
of something, Instead of putting togethersomething innovative and and edgy and fun,
why don't we look at something thatworked before and ruin it. Let's see,
how about the equal lice or anold white guy who used to beat
people up and take care of it. Now I'm gonna make it to say
real, I like I like QueenLatifa as a rapper. She's a fine
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actress and a fine rapper of wonderfultalent, and she's actually decent in the
show putting the show, but theshow's a terrible idea. Why can't you
just make a show with Queen Latifaas the leading kicking people's rear ends and
having Eddie from Friends, uh worryabout his goldfish Somewhere along the line,
he was he's in that show too. By the way, I don't know
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if you remember that little arc ofFriends were where we're Joey moved out and
Eddie came in as the roommate onthe remind well, I disagree that shit,
Like like she's good on the show, okay, I I mean I
watched only the first episode, andwhen it came time for her to throw
a kick, they had to likecut to her lifting her leg and then
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cut to a stunt person's leg doingan arc and then cut to a cloth.
I mean, it was just theridiculous it was. She she's kind
of she's a fifty year old somethinglike you know, I don't want to
say overweight, but the Thanksgiving Dayparade and just talk, she's the female
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version of uh of um, what'shis name? Hard to kill? Uh?
Oh my god, I have abrain fart um Steven Seagal's female Sea.
Yeah for me, the equal tototally Edward Woodward period. That's that's
it. That's it. So canI bring up a couple of shows to
throw us into into a spiral sinceI like spiral things. You know,
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I'm in so real quick. Idon't think they would ever remake one of
my favorite shows of sixties, whichwas Hogan's Heroes. I loved Hogan's Heros.
I wanted to get something about Nazisbeing kicked, getting their asses kicked
by prisoners every episode, you know, I just love that. Well,
you're right about that. That wouldnever get green lip, everybody. The
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reason Away would never get green lipbecause people, young people, and I
hate to put it that way,young people and liberals in Hollywood cannot see
pants. The fact that there areNutsie uniforms there. You don't know,
I can't put Nazis and there,you know. And Warner Kemp Kemper,
he was actually a Jew Jewish whoactually played there. He enjoyed making fun
of the Nazis. It was itwas actually making fun of the Nazis get
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that, you know, obviously,people don't look at people don't look under
the surface. They see a coupleof things. You got to check the
boxes and it's automatically funny. We'llwatch it. That's it. Okay.
I'll even contend that some of thesepeople who purport to be angry about shows
that aren't woken up aren't watching theseshows that are busy watching TikTok for two
or three seconds at a time.Okay, that's another contention I have.
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But Hogan's Heroes is one of thoseshows that would never get green lit.
Today I did see Faulty Towers andJohn Klas doing his Nazi person impersonations are
fabulous. We should do a wholeshow on just British Comedy sometimes because he
was God, we will. Iwant to bring Tim Tim Wilson on that
one. I love comedy. Ilove Faulty Towers. Oh my god,
Money Python, Yes my God,I mean, on and on and on,
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Blackadder, Red Dwarf, blackd Ithe Original the alleg Show. Guy,
isn't it a Borette Fellow? Idon't think I've ever seen alleg but
I heard it was pretty funny.You mentioned The Black Edter. You mentioned
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The Black Hitter. Here's the showthat would never get greenlit in America.
And they tried to make a watereddown American version of it too, and
I think a female version. TheYoung Ones, Oh, I love the
one of my favorites of Yeah,we would. We would wake up from
hangovers and try to watch that thatin Peewee's Playhouse. Oh, those are
my favorite hangover shows back in mydrinking days. Not that I drank to
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access much it was it was stillfun. For those who haven't seen The
Young Ones, the idea is wethere was a it was a basic U
students in Britain, I believe,and if I have this rate, they
were thrown in flats to live togetherand really regard list of their background or
who they know or who they wereand that sort of thing. So the
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idea was they stuck them together.This pair, this quartet happened to be
a hip hippie, a conservative,one of those antifa type activist guys that
is a socialist but called himself ananarchist yeah, an anarchist yeah, and
a punk kind of punk. Andthey're all forced to live together. So
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and they hate each other. Bythe way, Oh yeah, they are,
yep. Right, let's everybody bringNeil down. Rud it's up,
it's down, It's all aloud.Is it coming to your town? It
looks like Tony Blinkin's front office atthe State Department. That's right. But
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but gentlemen, you've seen the youngones. We talk about we talk about
uniting people, and we're united asnut dividers. Okay, I know we
we've said some things that might bea little bit provocative today, but the
fact is there is one thing thatunites us, right, doctor Martin's boots.
That's right, Thank you, lexSale. I think it was radical
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posture as part of the show.I just love that show. I mean
every I mean every moment of it'sgolden. It's it's one of the pound
for pound, maybe the funniest showever made, honestly, absolutely absolute lord
And if there was, if therewas an American version, uh, they
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would have they they would have orderedit down terribly and I probably tried that.
No, it was definitely worried.Here's another show, by the way,
that would never ever get green withtoday, but almost every show is
still based upon it. The HoneymoonersLess Wife abuse referred to. That's right.
I remember a show called That's MyBush? Are we talking about cats
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Agan? Well, back in twothousand. Back in two thousand, the
guys that created a South Park Oh, that's right, Yeah, I remember
they had two shows ready for thetwo thousand election, That's My Bush or
they had one That's Gore centric.The idea was to paradise the president but
put him in his scenario into aparody of fifties, sixties and seventies comedy
trumps. So they have the whackynext door neighbor Larry, and they have
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a bunch of other things that thehusband's obviously the put of every joke,
but at the end of every program, George would say, one of these
days, Laura, I'm gonna punchyou in the face. After a couple
episodes, they'd have the audience repeateddid they have a lock box involved in
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that too? Just like? Butthey did have one where Dick Cheney took
over. I remember, and youknow what they say about Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney before Dick sh just sayingyeah. He actually changed the show name
for the episode from That's My Bushto What a Day It was? God
monetized. All that stuff is edgycomedy that would that's not allowed today.
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All right, how about this one? Family comedies? All right? Well,
first office is almost every show fromtheir fifties on with a couple has
been based somewhere and other on thispremise, because the idea is husband's a
bumbler, but he's funny and thewife is really strong and the yell and
yells at him. But then theystill love each other, and that's something
that that's also missing, and peopledon't realize. Hey, of all the
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jokes, that's what you see.They they made the best of their situation
and they still loved each other.Right. I would basically say this was
the flint Stones, you know,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fred even looks like you know,Ralph Kranby, Yeah yeah. Varni Rubble
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is you know a voice? Yeah? Uh yeah. But it would never
get green lit today. I don't. I would, I would venture.
I would submit to all of you, and I want to see what you
think about. Would I love Lucyas it stood back then? Ever?
Be green lit today? I thinkthey even more concerned about a Hispanic husband
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and uh, you know, awhite wife, right, because there aren't
enough injury, right because they Yeah, but well I'm sure they fit the
entire rainbow when the family somehow Ilike to do with commercials and I'm okay
with that sometimes, but you're rightthey were. There was a controversy over
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at back then. I would worrymore about, uh, the writers saying
or the Hollywood type saying, hey, you can't really have a husband walking
in and saying, hey, I'mwant to say, come on, I
earned my shirts. Why isn't mydinner done? Huh? Now because he
wants her to stay home be hiswife some times, yeah, yeah,
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that that's considered porn now. ButI always love the way Fred and Ethel
would just walk into their apartment,never knock, never call beforehand, just
stroll on in. Yeah, justlike Cramer and Seinfeld, which is another
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great show, Larry M. Three'scompany. Seinfeld's another show. Seinfeld and
Friends are the brunt of a lotof clickbait millennial blogs. You ever noticed
that there's always moments in Seinfeld orFriends that were problematic. Seinfeld was just
funny and a show about nothing.As they talked about it was funny.
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I mean, it just it justdidn't care. I mean, it really
would just it was just hilarious.It was really absurdist humor more than anything
else. It wasn't never, itwas never topical. It was just you
know, crazy neurotic. Uh.You know, situations that I totally identify
with. Uh, you know LarryDavid, Uh, you know, Jerry
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Seinfeld, are are part of thatgreat Jewish comedy tradition, like mel brooks
uh, you know, Carl Reiner. Just just really those guys had an
incredible sense of humor. I mean, I could with Saddama saying, double
parking in front of me, Ican I see that in New York all
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the time. So I'm saying,you know, like what happened in George,
it happens all the time. Infact, that could happen, that
could really happen anyway. Diplomat,any diplomat could double park could do whatever
they want in the city. Andthat that's that's an often abused uh that's
been interested in a lot of shows, and whether it be comedies or cereals,
that's an often abused diplomatic couch thingfor diplomatic. But it was Saddam
was saying, damn it, Iremember, Saddam, what that of nass
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destruction in his trunk and Friends isanother one. The idea that I guess
u idea that the long running jokeand Friends was that Chandler was supposed to
have been gay but isn't, sohe's always afraid of being known as gay.
Yesterday that was called funny and alittle bit of machismo. Today it's
called homophobia or anti gay or anythinglike that. And to be honest with
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you, I don't think anybody's afraid. I don't like the word phobia attached
anything. In fact is it wassupposed to be funny. The idea is
you're you're telling Chandler was supposed tobe something that he wasn't. Wild blind
everybody thought it happens in real life, and it's kind of funny. Now
people are people crying wine and screamingkick you out a Starbucks for mistaking your
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gender or at least gender or whateveryour pronouns are. But I'm telling you,
some of the Chari's gay and lesbianfriends have been contacting me directly and
they're fed up being lumped in withthe The L and G are good,
but the rest of the alphabet they'reready to lose because they could, you
know, they they like being whothey are. They don't like being drug
into all this other transsection. Right. I support people. I mean,
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look, what are we gonna do. We're gonna go for Gerbils next now
or what the hell? It's alot because um it's it's bringing up gosh.
I mean, it's such an archaicidea to think that, and it
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used to be true back here,like when I was a kid, my
father's generation, he was born innineteen sixteen. They were concerned that if
if their son hung out with thewith the game man, it might be
contagious, you know, or theymight groom them or something. And now
all that stuff is being dredged upagain. It's setting people back by decades.
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While it's supposed to be progressive andit's anything, but it's completely regressive.
Yeah. Well, the idea isright now, it's at the expense
of entertainment. Gentleman, lady,When was the last time Saturday night life
was funny? Ave? Yeah,But the idea is edgie humor is going
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and it's dead. It's funny edgiehumor both both ends the specirum edgy edgie
humor and family programming are almost totallydead, or at least as the way
we knew it back then, whenit was funny and one of the Chris
one of my favorite skits, andI'm going to get in trouble for saying
this was the SS Raging Queen orMen or Men? Do you remember that
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skit where John Belucci played the pirate? It was the Speaking of Pirates,
Susan. I liked the pilot FlagQueen. You remember that? Oh it
was it? Really remember that vaguely? Oh my god, that like they've
probably approached the Internet of it.It was great where John Beluchi was one
around, you know, trying torecruit a young boy to come join the
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crew and see the world. Wegotta find it, you gotta five.
But though it was it was overthe top, making fun of gays and
Lesbie. It was funny Moore orafter in the Navy by the village people.
But it sounds like the plot,oh my god knows. And they
had one guy who basically had aproblem with his lips, so he had
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had to have something draining all thetime from his mouth. It was it
was over the top, pirate funnygay stuff. So but it's the SS
Raging queen. I'm not sure ifyou could ever find that, but it
was funny. But you'll never findit now because you know, you can't
make fun of anything now and youcan't. And if you look back at
some of the shows that were alittle bit edgy and family oriented, the
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Signal and maybe not so family oriented, you so show. There was an
era of shows that were really justout there and just going, hey,
um whiny people, screw you people. You have to you have to watch
CPO Sharky back in the seventies withDon Rickles and Don Rickles and a bunch
of people. He loves, abunch of recruits. He likes to make
fun of. It makes everybody,every one of their idiots, secrecies that
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would never be greenlit today. Butit was funny and that was the It
was absolutely hilarious. It was itwas, it was all. It was
just it was great. I rememberalso in Can I Got Water done a
little bit. But in the eightieswe had married with children unhappily ever after,
which were kind of the parodies ofthe family shows if anything else.
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But it was always, oh mygosh, they're insulting women, They're insulting
girls, and making fun of peoplewho were um vertically challenged if you will.
But the fact is they were makingfun of everything, and Al Bundy
was still the butt of half morehalf or more of the jokes. Oh
yeah, Jeff Pearson's character on theother one was I mean talked to a
stuff bunny. I mean a questionfor all of you. Okay, yes,
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remember growing paints. I have themall the time. I'm still growing.
Okay. The neighbor Michael's best friend. We worked together. Oh wow,
I didn't know that's cool. Yeah, we do acting workshops together.
We were Michael's best friend's name forhis nickname. All right, Well I
didn't really watch it, so thinwas his name was Joey Stabone. Okay,
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So Michael would always call him Boner. So I'm televised. You say,
me and Boner are gonna go hangout. I'm gonna go hang with
Boner? And I'm thinking, howdo they get this on television? But
they did. They would never flytoday because they would symbolize toxic masculinity.
Oh yes, men have to bea lot weaker on most shows. And
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I it doesn't make a lot ofsense. I mean, maybe if you're
doing the show about that kind ofthing. Once in a while, that's
that that could be kind of funny, But when it's almost every show it
is, it gets to be annoying. So fense when you know what the
what the goal is well destruction ofthis country. And as Jordan Peterson says,
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there are a few things more dangerousthan weak men. Yes, here's
weak men make hard times. Hardtimes make strong men. Strong men make
good times. Good times make weakman week men make bad times. All
right, let's put this on anothercoin. Do women who were watching television
really want to watch strong women andweak men or do they want to see
(36:15):
the big, good looking hunk dosome cool stuff and kick I'm on the
understand. I know some women whoare telling me, hey, Chris,
I'm tired of these women. Theyhave to stick in with the attitudes and
these men who are really weak.I want to see it, really so,
I want to see hunks again.I want to see good looking many
guys on television. That's why Vikingsdid so well. Interesting, Yeah,
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that's true. I know one ofthe writers and Vikings. They did very
well. So I love that.Yeah, very great. My favorite thing
I've ever seen on TV? Well, you know, a Game of Thrones
was good for the first couple ofseasons. Then they did I don't know
what the hell they did to it, but I mean it just went off.
I mean a man, I justthat last season was unwatchable. So
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the last two seasons were unwatchable.Here's a show that wrong. Woman.
Well, here's a show that wasn'tvery good. And I won't get your
take on this because again, itwas totally ruined by a bunch of all
people with let's say, minimally exceptionalIQs who are running Hollywood and whatever.
Cultural. Yeah, the people whorunning the culture nowadays are so scared of
(37:20):
people watching reruns of Dukes of Hazzard. Now. Granted, it was a
low level terrible show all to beginwith, but it was fun for kids
because the car chases. But theonly reason people don't like the powers that
be don't want anybody seeing it isbecause since it was down the Deep South,
it had a Confederate flag on thetop. Right, This is ridiculous.
It's a flag on I live ina city here in North Carolina about
(37:44):
two miles. I mean, there'sstill a Civil War statue in the center
of the town. They're all fightingover it and all it says it.
All it does is honor the CivilWar debt. That's it. It says
nothing about the Confederacy other than we'rehonoring the debt. It's a veteran statue.
But the left is out of control, just saying, definitely, let's
realize that most of these statues thatthey have a problem with the Democrats.
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I remind them that all the time. It's like, I don't think you
should tear down your history, justsaying I'm with you. It's just no,
I did an editorial, Susan,I'll send you a copy of it.
I didn't editorial in it. Verything good. Yeah, I'd love
to read it. And it's allat the expense of good entertainment. At
this point, this is everything's watereddown on much. You think the music
and well remember the what was thebranded There were some great series and such
(38:27):
as Branded the Rifleman that had someof the Civil War connors. Yeah,
yeah, those those were all greatbecause they had oh yeah, and and
and for the Rifleman doom Cock.Remember he was a single father raising a
kid, right, yeah, andhave that. Yeah, it was true.
And great theme song too, bythe way, Yeah, that was
a hell of a TV theme songof the Rifle, and then it was
(38:49):
incredible. Right, it's on PlutoTV for free. You know, yeah,
I don't know if you're great stuffgreat stuff. I'm also watching a
lot of Have Gun Will Travel,I've got the I gotta watch the whole
series is on DVD. You know. I like watching old shows. I'm
about wrapped up on the uh theFugitive. I'm watching the original David Jansen
Fugitives back in the day. Fantasticstuff. One show that could never be
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made today that hasn't been mentioned butshould have really been at the top of
the list coming knock under three companiesand gentlemen, and there there are some
reasons for that. Absolutely, thereare definitely some reasons for that. And
one of them obviously the big jokeat Jack was supposed to be gay or
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not gay, but he was.They he was supposed to be supposed to
pretend he was gay, just thelandlords would let things happen. People don't
realize the seventies was a lot differentthan it is now. Girls and men
and women were not to live together, at least it wasn't proper, but
it started happening and it it justreflected what was going on society, and
they seemed like nice, nice people. Actually, yeah, it was a
(39:59):
fun show at a of course,those two hot chicks, uh, you
know, and you know Horny MissusRoper and Norman Fell comic genius and doom
Cock. Just you know, SuzanneSummers is one of my fans. She
actually told me that in person.By the way, Oh my god,
don't get jealous. Oh I'm jealous. Man. The thigh Master, the
thigh Master. I've never ever inmy life so much wanted to be an
(40:24):
inanimate object. Got thigh master betweenSusanne Summers legs. I'm just now that
you mentioned Susanne Summers, and nowthat you mentioned her, she's brilliant.
It's a great actress, business woman. But here's a show and marketing genius.
Here's the show it didn't do wellback in the day. That would
get green lighted, That would getgreen lit now and would be overpromoted,
(40:46):
same quality, but overpromoted. She'sthe sheriff because it's a powerful woman being
the chef. Well you know thispolicewoman, right, yeah, just a
little bit. Yeah. That lastedlike three seasons I think, but that
but it was, but it wasdifficult. Yeah, yep, what about
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it yet, Christie love you underarrest, Sugar. That's a good one.
That was a classic one that Tarantinoreferenced. That one I think in
a movie as I recall Bosom Buddies. Yeah, that should be redamped.
You know, get the get thetrans men living in a woman's sporting house.
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They were. They weren't crans,they were just yeah they were.
They were the cussed but not eventoday would look like today would be an
insult to crust dressing. But thefact is these guys the trouble finding a
place to live. They may dowith what and they actually had a friend
who accepted them and had helped themdo it. Yeah. By the way,
the great Wendy shows Sperber, shewas one of my favorite actresses priview
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to her. She was fantastic.I always liked her. She was a
great actress. Okay, congratulations,there we go. Hey, I gotta
pay. I gotta pay homage whenI can. Here, we do have
a little bit of much left payingyou for that homage. By the way,
she has passed on sending Oh well, I guess is he stay paying
(42:13):
you off? Then? We didpay homage to her a little bit in
the Eddie Pe'son interview from a littlewhile ago, So that was cool.
You know, Eddie lives not toofar from me too. I should get
with him sometime. So yeah,he's he's not far from he's it's a
good fellow. It's a good fellow. And if and if anybody was watching
this hasn't seen that interview, youget to hear a lot of his great
stories from behind the scenes. Andeven the time he made up with Morgan
Fairchild, a big difference between himand Tommy Tommy Flannagan. Well they did
(42:37):
get to make out. You havepictures. I don't believe it less there's
pictures. It was on mom Bossthe movie. Okay, do you have
pictures? It's in the movie.So I guess you can make me work.
I have to go find the movienow. Gie. It was one
of the great mob movies of alltime. Uh, but we're on DV
(43:00):
on TV today. We should talkabout movies some other time, So that's
what we're doing. No. Iran some movies past Doomcock. Last time
we were on together, right Doomcock, we went our top list top ten
list, not topless list. That'sa different list, saying that's a different
list altogether on the list that Iwas to say, all right, so
I'm sorry, I'm gazing. Sorry, sorry, Chris, I didn't know.
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That's what we do here. Thisis this is a retro show were
we relaxed and talk about stuff here. That's why it's that's why it's the
outhouse Lounge. It's the Regal Beagleonly with only the toilet's really on the
chair. So looking, looking,here's another show, and this is let's
(43:42):
go back. Let's reach back tothe fifties. A lot of the shows
that never ever ever get green litagain. The Occasional Wife, which I
believe. I believe that show.It's about a guy who, um is
an occasional promotion. He needed promotion, so we hired a woman to be
as wife every once in a while. Yeah, and that was but she
had her own life, so theyhad their own private lives and all.
(44:04):
There was a bit of a bigmess and and hilarity ensued. But what
about Bewitched. I'm going back inthe sixties. I dream of Genie too.
I dream of Genie. I lovethat. That's one of my favorites.
I always wanted to be Tony Nelson. Since I'm Tony just said,
well, I dream of Genie again. I think I believe the executives had
wind about the idea that, umthat Barbara Eden plays a woman in a
(44:25):
subservient role. Forget the legend ofthe Gin and white Gin were important,
and um, she was she moredistance in that relationship. Chris just saying,
I'm kinda I would. I likedwhen that was fine. That was
fine with me too. Yeah,I gotta I gotta say that. You
know, Larry Hagman, uh wasevery bit as much a slapstick comedy genius
(44:52):
as Dick Van Dyke. You know, Dick van Dyke always gets the credit.
But boy, I'll tell you what, nobody was funnier than than Ry
Hagman in that in that show,his reactions, his desperate uh you know
giggle, his you know, panickedlook as he's falling suddenly, you know,
from Great Heights, when he wassitting on his couch previously. I
mean, he was, he wasamazing. So another I know we're going
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all over the map here, butI want to say something about Bob Newhart.
I love Bob Newhart and and someof his comedy was amazing as well.
And the way they ended, uhthe second show with Susanne Plichette being
in bed with him, talk aboutabout the ultimate ending. Hey, oh
my god, weir the weird Theweirdest thing about that was the weirdest thing
(45:38):
about Bob Newhart show was the guythe picked Perkins the whip, the kind
of a little whimpy guy with theglasses of both head. He was Jack
the Ripper on Star Trek Wolf inthe Fold. That's right, season two,
Yeah, exactly, yes, sir, we should do this again.
We have we should do it waswas sci fi and uh like categories you
(46:00):
know. Yeah, yeah, wewere doing mostly comedy and comedy stuff today
and a little bit of the policedramas, but we didn't delve into them
enough. So let's do sci finext time. Hope the audience likes that
if we're unless we're demonetized by thattime and we'll figure all that stuff out.
Anybody can try to get one ofour other Hollywood friends to show up
next time too, just saying I'mworking on him, so to speak.
(46:21):
I might have a little trick upmyself. And don't call me Shirley I
think we got a hint there,Susan. Catch Catch Tony Schaefer on his
radio show The Hard Truth. Catchdun cuck, where's your tell our audience
where you are on on YouTube?You're all over the place. I am
(46:43):
YouTube dot com, slash Overlord DVD. I discuss the war on pop culture
and uh, I really tried tofight to expose the uh look agendas in
Hollywood, h in which I believeare in the attack on our on our
civilization, on our values. DoomCock, you're far too modest, modest,
(47:07):
you you are the sink. Youare the one point of of of
success regarding getting under Disney's knickers.If you ever want to get into the
knickers, You've kicked their ass.And God, go good. No,
I'm serious, God bless you.I listen to all your stuff. I
read your book. Your bastard doinggreat. Thank you very very much.
(47:28):
You're doing great. And Susan,you can always catch Susan with us on
the Culture Wars podcast as well aspart of the Thought to Action from Project
Sentinel. Susan, uh and Iwe can find you all over the place
too. You're everywhere too. You'llfight, Susan. Yeah, i'd tually
(47:49):
get canceled from other networks. AndI'm a big fan of alternative platforms,
and I think we need to befolk see on strengthening them. And I
hope, I hope Tucker Um addsto that. Well let's see what let's
see what happens to him, andwell we're gonna find out some really cool
(48:10):
stuff from him pretty as soon.It's gonna be fun to watch him.
But I do want to say,I know one of the big things that
doom Cock is uh is known forhis making fun of fob of Disney,
which, by the way, theyreally do deserve it a lot of times.
Yes they do. Yeah, oneof my favorite cartoons Steamboat Fatty from
nineteen thirty nine. They don't makegreat stuff like that anymore, they doom
(48:36):
No, not anymore, sadly,But today has been a very very bad
day for Disney. Uh it was, well, actually a couple of days
ago, they got sued by theirown shareholders, uh for allegedly misrepresenting how
many subscribers and how successful Disney Pluswas. Uh. So they are really
(49:00):
taking the heat right now, anduh, I think they richly deserve it.
Oh yeah, that's why they're tryingto do that old uh shuffled subscribers
around with Hulu. I think they'retrying to like the numbers. Yeah,
well there's there. You know,there's lots of rumors out there, and
I report on them when they whenthey come up. But uh, I
(49:20):
think I think, really the mouseis having a really terrible, rotten,
awful bad day. That's right,And beat the church and check out doom
Cock and the Skull of Calderone,which is a good friend of yours.
Yeah, well as as Harvey cthulhu. And Harvey cthulhu is. I don't
know if he's as smart as yourDoomcock, but he's he's close. Just
saying thank you, thank you foracknowledging me. I think we're good.
(49:47):
You know, we're doing exectually morepowerful than he is. But I ever
get out of this containment field,I'm going to destroy you all. So
cheerious. We're doing sci fi nexttime, and we're fi. I have
a lot of fun. Susan doomCock, Tony, thank you very much
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and thank you all for being heretoo. Don't forget to subscribe.
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