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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Everybody?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Welcome Joe brand new episode of Spilled the Tequila here
on the Outlaw Nation Channel. I am John Rogan. One
of the co hosts here on the Spill of the
Tequila Show, Jonahs always by the King of Swag himself Winston.
Hey Marshall, how are you on?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Uh dude, I'm actually doing pretty I I'm I'm I'm
doing pretty well. Uh standard exhaustion. That's that's I think.
Just the older you get, slash the world we live in,
you're always gonna be a little bit tad.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
But uh, you know, I my my lady is doing
well with a project she's working on.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
You know, everybody crossed your fingers for me about potentially
a really big project coming up. Uh you know, I
got my health. Uh saw probably the best sign. Hold on,
this is the best check. Wait what happened today? I
had a nice breakfast.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Look.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Look, look, I know it sounds weird.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
A lot of it is just because I can't give
the tales about stuff because it could screw everybody ship up.
I wish I could really tell you what's going on
with both my lady and myself, but I can't do that.
So I gotta be real generalized, to be like she's
having a great day on a project. Crossed your fingers
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Like it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
About all I can say without ruining.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hold On, I need to. I need to.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Because I don't know if I text you this when
I was out at the protest this past weekend, man,
because this photo is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Hold on, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I went to I went to I went to one.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I went to the No Kings protest, uh up in
the valley, up here in the valley, and yeah, let
me see, let me see, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh my goodness, this is great radio right here.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
This wonderful radio. You know what I'm saying is the
best radio roka. Everybody knows this. I mean, you could
also tell them how you're doing while I'm doing this, sir.
You can help me out now.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't like to cut my guests off from my
co host. Absolutely, I'm doing good. Yeah, it's another day.
I'm down to four hundred and twenty seven pounds, so
I'm very happy about oh close to forty pounds. Not
quite there yet, but we're working our way towards it.
Had a really great time last night seeing f one.
I know the reviews are out, so I can tell

(02:39):
you right off the bat, I recommend it it. It's
not as good as Top Gun Maverick, but it's a
damn fun time in the theaters in a theater. It's
slightly slightly over long by a few minutes, but other
than that no complaints in My full review would be
out probably next week when it actually comes out, but
I had a fun time seeing it last night. I'm
not seeing Eleo or twenty eight years later. I turned

(03:00):
down those screens. This week's stuff I'm working on, but
later this week I will watch them do out of
the reactions and reviews over the weekend, what do you
got here? Okay, let's bring it up.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
What is this?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
So for those that watched Creature Commandos, that is a
sign with someone putting the immigration thing over the white
supremacist that was in that episode with Gi Robot and
it says that's.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
What a Nazi would say.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Hilarious, forget that. I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I was by far my favorite.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
There was some real creativity out there, but that was
that was my favorite.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
One good There was a lot of good signs. I mean,
people were really creative at these no kings protests or
rallies or whatever you functions, whatever you want to call
them marches, because there were a lot of marching in
different cities, big cities. They were very inventive, very clever.
You know, when the when people get going with their creativity,
it's a lot of fun to see. The Internet is

(03:57):
a Twitter is a small sample of that. Imagine in
a larger format how many people come up with scigns
and it's it's a real black We had a great
time as well, way bigger than we anticipated because it
was it's a smaller, kind of quieter area of San Diego,
and it was like four or five blocks stacked nice
all the way to the back of the parking all

(04:17):
the way to the parking lot, which I thought was
really surprising for me. You we didn't want to go downtown.
We were afraid, like ice and everybody would just start
descending on people and the police and everything like that.
But no incidents. It was there was heard and there
was no violence at all from what I saw. A
couple of incidents with people trying to agitate from the
other side, but overall it was a really great weekend,

(04:38):
and I thought it was fantastic and of course typical
of people who just have nothing better to do with
their times. I was on TikTok this morning quite a
few people are like, no, Kings, what about the King
of Kings? What about Christ? And I'm like, come on,
cut it out, that's not what we're talking about. It.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I already know what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You were intentionally being up to exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, it was non.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because because you know what that is.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's the standard right wing move of you say, black
lives matter, will all lives matter? Okay, you say you
say you know, hey, this individual wasn't given their due process.
Oh well he's a criminal, Okay, prove it in court
and then go for it. You're you're you're literally just

(05:24):
intentionally being up to really stupid. It one or the other,
and both are infuriating and incredibly frustrating.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's it's maddening because they know they're willfully doing some
of them right, not everyone. Some people actually do want
to engage in back and forth conversations with legitimate facts
and what have you. Sometimes they're alternate facts, sometimes they're
skewed facts, but still they're willing to debate. Other people
go on there to snark and do whatever because there's
no repercussions for it zero, you know, and they can

(05:52):
say whatever they can. The word is ob th skate,
I think is the offuse skate and and kind of
to try to try to distract you from what's really
going on with gaslighting and all these these made up
lies and narratives and all, and it's it is frustrating because,
you know, we used to be able to exchange ideas
in the town's town square and now we can't even

(06:14):
do that because someone has made politics life and life
or death. And we saw, of course this weekend a
Minnesota Democratic lawmaker, former Speaker of the House there gunned
down with her and her husband gun down in their houses.
Another member of the Democratic leadership there in the in
the representative section in the Representatives of Minnesota's gunned down

(06:34):
with his wife. They survived, thankfully, and apparently I saw
the reports that she jumped in front of her child
to save her child, and she was shot eight times,
he was shot nine times. They finally caught this guy,
and of course it's a middling, dopey, overweight white dude
and it's like, what the hell, man, and it's this
is the kind of thing that's arming. And then when
the President is asked, you know, are you going to

(06:55):
call Governor Tim Waltz to talk to him about it,
He's like, no, I'm not gonna call him. He assigned
this guy, And you know, the right wing is holding
on to the fact that one of he was, that
this guy was one of foul twelve hundred people I
think who was assigned to some Minnesota business thing, and
so that's the that's their cop out, that's their cop out, right, Like, oh, oh,
he was, so he's not right wing. He resigned to

(07:16):
this or that. And it's like, why can't you just
own up to the fact that this guy was absolutely
armed with your rhetoric and went after these two people.
And there is no room for political violence in our country.
There should be, shouldn't be. And the President not saying anything,
not calling Tim Watts, not calling this out, not saying
that it's terrible, is essentially almost encouraging people to do this,

(07:37):
which is a sad state of affairs. And there's no
longer debate. It's now life or death, and that's not
a way to exist in the democracy.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
No it's not, and that is I think the thing.
The divide had been starting slowly but surely. We'd always
had a little bit of my team your team kind
of situation, but it wasn't as bad until you ended
up with the Maga cult, which essentially was like, you're
either on my team or get the f out of

(08:06):
the way, And no matter what happens, there's this idea
that you that he is infallible.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
He is not like like I.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
There are enough things that I could point at, like
a broken clock is right twice a day, but I
can admit when there's something going on that's like a positive,
Like I can admit him forcing the hand of pharmaceutical
companies to have to lower prices and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was annoyed that he went in yes, right, right.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was annoyed to the fact that he started by
undoing what Biden did and then essentially put the exact
same thing with a little extra on top. You could
have just put the extra on top. You didn't need
to do that. But it's to quote unquote prove a point.
But I can admit that that is a good thing.
But yeah, yeah, to not be able to sit here
and look at stuff and go, ah, those terrors aren't great,

(08:50):
or maybe we shouldn't get into a war with Iran
right now.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And super World War three.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
That seems to be the breaking point here because we
see a bit of a mini civil war breaking out
on that in that section of the political sphere, because
there are people like Tucker Carlson, like Steve Bannon who
are saying they don't want to go to war with Iran,
and some other people like Laura Lumer out here going well,
anybody who says that is anti Trump, and anybody who

(09:17):
questions Trump is anti Trump, and they should be called
out and absolutely kicked out of office. So you can't
even have a disagreement within your own party, within your
own political sect, or else you're called a traitor and
people are trying to take you out of your position.
So there is no freethinking if freethinking is met with

(09:38):
derision and the threat of a loss of your job
rather than just having And these are the people who
cry about cancelation. Right if you disagree with Trump, they
want to cancel you immediately. So which is it? And
that's the frustrating part is it's always a shifting goalpost
there's no morals or principles or actually ethics or things
they believe in. Everything shifts to whatever the orange dude says.

(09:58):
And that's the frustrating party.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
And that, to me is the problem because now you
are literally putting party and not even party, you're putting
person over country. That's nuts, that's genuinely nuts. And that's
how we you know, Yeah, anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I agree, I agree, and you know, we'll talk about
that a little bit later with if we get to
the Dodger stuff. As always, Winston and I come up
with a bunch of topics, but we don't know if
we're going to get to all of them right, but
we'll see. And of course we have over one hundred
and twenty of you watching right now. Thank you so
much for joining us right off the bat. We appreciate it.
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(10:34):
Send in your love there you see the stream labs
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wait to jump in and talk about I want to
hear from you all near the end of the show.
But let's let's this is not where we wanted to start.
This is where we want to start. When you said this,
before you said this, before we started here. Tyler Perry,
my god, Tyler Perry has been hit with a lawsuit
accusing him of sexually harassing and assaulting an actor on

(10:57):
his beet show The Oval. Derek Dixon, who appeared in
eighty five episodes of the show, allegens in the suit
that Perry abused his power in the industry to sexually
exploit him. According to the copoint, Dixon was staying at
Perry's guest house in June of twenty twenty one when
Perry groped his butt. Talks and while the suit also
quotes from text messages alleging that Perry made numerous sexual

(11:19):
remarks and propositions over several years. And there are text
messages attached to all of this stuff, which is really
the most insane stuff, an insane thing around this thing.
But here, let me take that delaware is let me
take that down. Let me bring this up. This is
the Twitter, the tweets and breakdown of it all. Here,
Derek says, Tyler gave him a small role in two

(11:40):
episodes of a show called Rutless that in January twenty twenty,
Derek says Tyler invited him to his Atlanta home, hoping
to build a friendship lead more acting gigs, but there
Derek drank too much and then a sleeping in a
guest room. Derek claims Tyler got in bed with him
and started touching his thighs, and although he rejected the advances,
he claims Tyler remained interested. Then, Derek says he landed
the role of Dale in The Oval, but he claims
it was around this time that Taylor started firing off
sex actually suggestive texts, including asking what Drew's sexual preferences were,

(12:03):
telling him he as sex with men. He says Tyler
once again invited him to Atlanta later in twenty twenty
and started a sexually charged conversation like ask him, ask
him if he likes it quote rough in bed and
then grab Derek by the throat while saying quote look
how excited you just got. He says he pushed Tyler
way and that was the an alleged incident. The lawsuit
includes years of text messages allegedly sent by between both men.

(12:24):
Most of the ones Tyler allegedly sent are sexually charged.
For instance, one reads quote, no straight man would be
going on walks with you or cooking dinner for you
unless they wanted to f you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I would f you.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Dixon is suing for quid pro co workplace harassment. Now,
to be fair, Tyler Perry's people, he has responded through
his people saying that this is a lawsuit that is
a frivolous and that is born out of someone who
is upset about a situation with Tyler Perry. So there's
a lot here to unpacked. Unpack here, Winston that you know,

(12:56):
the calling and his Laurie calls it a scam and
and doesn't and trying to say that they categorically deny
all these allegations. So what are your thoughts on this
stuff when you see this, and uh, what do you feel?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I mean, I feel like there is a reason, like
you gotta you gotta wait for it to play out
in court and everything else like that.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
But as far like there have.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Been rumors for a very long time and there's a reason,
uh you know that there have been two episodes one
on the show The Boondocks one on the show Atlanta,
calling out that the boon Docks episode where he hires
like he, uh, you know, a bunch of like light

(13:47):
skinned black men that he oils up, and you know,
it's essentially kind of a cult and all this other stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
There's there's a lot kind of going on there.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
And so to the point where I was talking to
a friend about this before we got on the show,
and like I said, to the Variety article, she goes, I.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Thought this already happened.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's like another one, And I was like, no, there's
always been rumors, there's never been anything directly coming out,
at least not to my knowledge. Maybe I missed something.
So now here we are, and I just got to say, man, like,
that's just I remain one of the don't I don't
always have for Charlotte Mane to God, but the one

(14:30):
thing that I will give him credit for is during
the Me Too movement, he said, I think what really
needs to happen above all else is.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
We need to listen. We need to listen to all victims.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
We need to listen to every single person that comes
forth with an accusation. We need to hear out everything
they have to say, and then we need to believe
all facts. So if all the evidence comes out that
he did this, then same thing I said about Diddy,
same thing I said about Oh my god, what's his name,
Johnathan Majors, all that kind of stuff, then then they
need to stuff has to happen accordingly.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You have to you have to face the consequences.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
And if any of this is a lie, if this
is a scenario where someone is trying to shake them down, then.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
They need to face consequences, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
So his lawyer says, the lawsuit is a quote shakedown.
This is an individual who got close to Tyler Perry
for what now appears to be nothing more than setting
up a scam. But Tyler will not be shaken. Now
we are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will fail.
Now we should definitely say and well I'll say this
and I'll get in trouble for it. Possibly. But like
sexual asthm of sexual assault is not limited to the

(15:31):
straight side of things, Like you can commit sexual assault,
you can commit a rape, you can commit all these
things on the on the LGBTQ plus side of things. Now,
I don't know if Tyler Perry has come out as
gay or straight. I don't know where the situation is.
I haven't kept tabs on that. A lot of people
have made illusions, as you said, the Boontos episode, the
Atlanta episode, it's very clear what they're insinuating in those episodes.

(15:53):
And look, no one understands the black community more than
black creatives, and it's always fascinating when they get a
chance to tell the truth about what's going on with
one of their most powerful creatives. And certainly there have
been accusations about him using non union work, accusations about
how he's treated people behind the scenes. There have been
these kinds of whispers for years about situations, which is
why he's created, in essence, a iron domed empire down

(16:17):
in Atlanta, where people are like, once you get on
that set, you are controlled, you are monitored in all
of that. So those are allegations. I don't know. I've
never been but this kind of stuff you read, I
don't know. It's an interesting situation because this guy was
around Tyler Perry for a long time, multiple episodes of
his show. Why all of a sudden, now is this
coming out? Why is he making these actuations that one

(16:39):
two hundred and sixty million dollars Winston's that's a lot
to be asking for in a situation where you were
just getting texts or you got your buttocks grabbed or
you leg grab like it's an interesting approach that's happening here.
But like you said, your friends they've heard this.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, I think I think the main reason behind that,
and again it followed, got follow evidence and see where
all this goes. I think whenever somebody does that, especially
in the entertainment industry, it's because win or lose.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
A lot of people end up.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
As pariahs at that point because it's like, oh, you're
willing to shoe right, and so a lot of times
people will shoot for the moon as far as that goes,
because they're like, this is probably it. You know, I'm
my career is over, so let me make sure that
I'm good. And it doesn't even necessarily mean you're going
to get all of that. A lot of times when
the settlement ends up being half or quarter of that
or something like that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
So we've seen that happening now with Justin Boldoni and
Blake Lively, right, Like Blake Lively made the accusation, but
Justin Boldoni countered the allegation with his own accusations and
wanted four hundred and eighty million dollars. Now the judge
has thrown out that lawsuit counter lawsuit, but said amend
some of the accusations after or allegations rather after the

(17:53):
trial happens next March. So it's an interesting situation. You
might be right like Justin Boldoni forty to eighty million,
because I know I'm never going to work again in
this town. I want to make as much money off
of this situation as possible because I feel like being
wrongly accused. On the other side, this actor knows if
I take a chance to make these accusations against a
powerful man like him, I will never work again because

(18:14):
Tyler Perry wields power. Like there's accusations that Tyler Perry
got that Boondocks episode removed and was was was instrumental
in getting that series canceled.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
So it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
To look at trending right now because it's pretty much
all all of black Twitter is essentially being like, okay,
so so whether smoke there's fire or oh man, they
predicted this how many years ago?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like absolutely crazy.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Yeah, we'll see what happens with all his but it's
it's pretty intense and but it is also a little
bit confusing because you're like, he worked on so many
episodes of his work, Like why keep working for someone
who is harassing?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
You know?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Look, mis make it clear, I'm not trying to say
I'm not trying to blame him, right, but there are
questions to be asked about with a situation here. Why
continue to be a part of this if you felt
you were being physically violated or harassed or sexually assaulted
in all of that, what is the why stick around
to keep doing stuff? So it's interesting to see how
this is all going to play out as more evidence
comes out. We're not going to read the text messages

(19:22):
because that would be the next hour and a half
of the show, to be honest, there's a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
When I went to go look and I was like,
oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, there are a lot of text messages about the situation.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
But isn't Tyler Perry married? Am I wrong on this?
I thought he was married? I think so, No, it don't.
I don't ever remember seeing him. Okay, I'll double check.
I don't ever remember seeing him with anybody he is.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Okay, So Tyler Perrys, he has he has a child,
and he had a partner Golila Bukelly from twenty ninety,
from twenty and nine to twenty twenty. Okay, all right,
I don't see anything about.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
It.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Just said it just said a partner. Didn't say that
they ever got married.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
So yeah, okay, all right, there you go. All right,
interesting situation. All right, we'll see any more you want
to say on that, or shall we leave it alone there?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, we just gotta wait and see how this all
plays out.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Man. But uh I, for any of you that are
still on Twitter, black Twitter is already going off.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
So enjoyed that. Enjoyed that? All right, Well, let's move
on to some casting news here. Let's talk about this.
We got ourselves the lead for the Clayface movie. This jentleman.
Because you don't know him, his name is Tom Rees Harries.
He is a Welsh actor. He was in the TV

(20:47):
series Suspicion that Uma Thurman led on Apple TV. Plus.
He was also in the Return with Ray Fines and
Julia Pinosch, which is the essentially the Odyssey but before
Christopher Nolan got a hold of it. He was also
in the Geral Butler film Candleharm, which I saw and
interviewed the director for. I thought it was a really
good movie and the gentleman and he beat out Jack O'Connell,

(21:08):
Tom Blythe and George McKay to land the role. And
of course this is the next big film here from
DC and James Gunn So any thoughts on this may
any understanding of this guy and a knowledge of this guy.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
What do you think of this casting? I'm not familiar
with the actor. I am excited about this movie, so
there's that.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I was a little.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Bummed out that it didn't ultimately end up being God
what's his name? From Sinners? Oh, Jack O'Connell, thank you?
I was that was that was a rumored to be
he was in. He was on the short list after
what he did with Sinners, I could not wait to
see what he would potentially do with this. But I mean,
I so far, all the casting choices that I've heard

(21:55):
and what I've even seen just from the few trailers
from Superman, the casting for the dcuse seems pretty spot one.
So I am more than willing to hear this out
and see what what tom Res has to do, tom
RaSE Harries has to do, and and what he's got
in the tank Man. But I think that this is
going to be a great movie. I still need to
see the one with what was it? Did Demi Moore?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Did it this past Oscarsh?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
The substance?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yes, yeah, I still need I still need to see that.
So but yeah, yeah, let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I like the choice. I remember him from Kandahar. I
don't think I've seen anything else he's been in, so
it's an interesting choice. It's not a well known name
as as Winston just proved, and so it'll be interesting
to see if what the reaction is going to be,
what the story is going to be here. It's a
forty million dollar film, I think, is what they were saying.
And James Gunn pushed back on some of the comments

(22:50):
from my co host on the Hot Mike, Jeff snyders
and how much of Mike's story are you planning to keep?
I only ask because I'm an unapologetic Flanna fan. I
don't know that was the thing. The man is a genius,
and James Gunn says, Hi, it's all Mike story, Mike
Flanagan's story. That's why we're making this movie because he
loved it. Any changes of the shooting trip is finalized
are minor. I'm a flan of fan myself. That's interesting
considering the rumors are that they brought in a veteran

(23:12):
screenwriter to do a page one rewrites on this whole situation.
But James Gunn is pushing back on it, saying that
there is no page one rewrites. So you know, you
got to decide for yourself. Do you believe someone from
James Gunn, from the studio and whatever, or do you
believe some of the scoopers who are finding out this
information because they talk to people involved in these productions.
I don't know, but it's interesting to see things are

(23:33):
starting to ramp up with Clayface, and yet we still
don't have a Batman Winston, and we're still wondering what
to do with these batman And I'm not sure if
you've read the interview with him enrolling Stone, but he
knows it's a big problem that they can't seem to
solve right now.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So where are you to put his batman? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
What to do with Batman? Do they do the Pattinson thing,
which he emits in the interview they've certainly discussed, or
do they do the brave and bold which he said
in the interview. They might not even call it brave
in the bold anymore. That it's called Brave in the
Bold for now, that's what he said in the interview
for now.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
So I mean it used to be Superman Legacy, so
that Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. It's now Supergirl. Yeah, so
that's so, that's fine to change the name. That happens
all the time. I'm not I'm not pressed about that.
As far as what to do with Batman. I mean, yeah,
just make a decision that that is. That is actually

(24:26):
my bigger thing. I don't think it matters what direction
you go. If you're gonna make patentson, if you're gonna
have patentson do it, then fine, commit to it.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah and get it popping.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Or if you're going to go with somebody else, okay,
I mean you don't.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Necessarily need to announce that casting right now.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Maybe save it for a rainy day, or maybe even
save it till after Superman's over, because what you don't
want to do is you don't want to this is
not a big of enough story, This one about about
Clayface to take away from what Superman's doing.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, my concern is, is Batman going to show up
in clay Is this how you're going to announce your
clay your bat Man because he is a Batman villain?
Sure are you going to make a decision and his
decision going to be revealed in the Clayface.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I could venture a guess you might end up with
a similar thing that you had in Creature Commandos, where
you get where you get a silhouette or you see
like a shadow fly by, or you see the batsymbol
come up. I actually think that as far as when
we get to Superman, we will probably get some allusion
to Bruce Wayne or Batman or whatever, but it will

(25:28):
not be a cameo.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It won't be or whatever.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
It'll be something as similar as like, you know, mister Luthor,
you know Wayne Enterprises is actually outbidding us for blah
blah blah. Right, It'll be something like that to acknowledge
that Batman exists, but that we aren't there yet. And
I think that that's completely fine. I would also say
to that point, hell, if you can keep a secret,

(25:53):
Keep a secret. When was the last time we legitimately
got surprised by anything not not coming for Jeff or
any of the scoopers. But we live in this world
where now everybody's always trying to break every single little
secret and throw it out there.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
We do not get to get surprised anymore. So that
would be actually.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Pretty cool if they could figure that out, to keep
us in the dark until it's time to go.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, boris kit a lot of people involved in this stuff, right,
justin and what have you with these people who are
scooping stuff? My time is shine hello, Daniel RpK. You know,
I try to be as accurate and I always try
to say take it with a grain of salt, like
I always say that because I don't know I have connections,
But I don't have that many connections that these scoopers do,

(26:38):
because they're like going on to lunch with agents and
managers and assistants, like just to let you all know,
that's how most scoopers work in Hollywood, LA. I don't
know how it is. I don't know where my time
to shine Hello is or Daniel Rickman is right, but
I know that a few scoopers that I know in LA.
They go out to dinner with people or they get
drinks with people who are connected to the studio connect
These productions work for the production companies of these directors,

(27:00):
actors and writers, and that's where they get their information.
People think like, oh, they're just waking up one day
and throwing a dart at the wall. It's not how
it works, nor would you have credibility, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
So it's well, yeah, and to that point, a lot
of times when they like, it's kind of hard to
tell because you're not going to give up your sources
because you could cause people their careers.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
For stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
But like, the other thing to keep in mind about
a lot of stuff is that a lot of times
things may have been considered. So even like let's say
you did go out with whatever said agent and they
tell you x, Y and Z, and it's very possible
that their client was for something like that, but a
different decision was made or it's not even then on
necessarily the scooper. A lot of times it behooves a

(27:42):
PR team, an agent whatever to make something. Yeah, you know,
my boy Roca, he's actually kind of up to play
the Kingpin. They're getting rid of Vincent Dinafrio, and doing
that is as important for or the scooper to be like, hey,
this is this big thing that I as it is

(28:03):
for that person doing that, because even with like negotiations
of what their client's gonna get paid, Yeah damn it,
how did it come out that we were gonna make
Roca Kingpin? Oh shit, man, I guess you gotta pay me,
you know, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's it's all a game. It's all political theater, just done.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
With movies, or the reverse where they're like, we didn't
want it to get out right that he was up
for this role, but like the rival agent or rival
manager found out, they put it out so that their
person now takes pole position in negotiations or whatever that shoes.
And people shouldn't reject that because the trades do that
for the studios all the time. Just about everything the

(28:45):
trades put out, not everything the trade breaks, but puts
out that's all approved by the studio, And so you
have to understand that. So in a way, they're doing
the exact same thing some people accused scoopers of doing,
working with these people behind the scenes like studios are
working with these journalists to put out this stuff. And
that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's all. It's all.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
It's all a system. Yes, it's it's it's all. If
we're being honest, it's all a system. And that being said,
I still stand by I still stand by the fact
that I really wish we knew less.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think that there's a certain level of it.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
There's a certain level of it that I think is
a good thing. I think it can help build hype,
et cetera. But like if we weren't in on these,
you know, shareholder meetings about these are the products we're
putting forward, And then you get excited about a Blade
movie that's never coming. I know they announced that a
comic com but you get what I'm saying, this idea
of the more you were spoiling things. Part of what

(29:41):
makes art so palpable is not just the art by itself,
but it's the way that it can thrill you.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's the way that it can take you by surprise.
If I knew you.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Know before watching The sixth Sense by the way, Uh yeah,
the whole time and Bruce Willi is gonna be dead
spoiler alert for a movie from nineteen ninety six, by
the way, of course, but I or ninety eight whatever,
If I knew that.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Going in, yeah, go ahead, why.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Would I be as inclined to necessarily go see the movie?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
So there's also something to be said about how thrilling
would it be that Superman really is on his last
leg here let's.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Just finally figured out.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Batman comes up with a well timed batter rang and
we all were like, oh my god, we have our Batman, Like,
how amazing would that be.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
We're not gonna get that, but that would be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
That's a good point. That's a good point. By the way,
a couple of people responding here to you, Winston Planning
of Yavin is saying, Roca is too petit now to
be Kingpin.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Did you see my boy Vincent?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
My Vincent was out here looking like what the king
king Zempek like a kingpin.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
He was vel, he was Welsh, felt man. He was
looking good.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I just want to snap your neck.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, you could also put a fat suit on Roca.
If Rokush felt now he could, he could hold that up. Also,
if what you're saying is you're trimming down. You were
already holding that, so you're strong enough to still hold it.
Bro you know what I'm saying, Like, you'll be fine. Also,
you said you were down to four twenty seven. Now
did you mean that seven?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah? Because you said.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Four Yeah, I was sixty four him down to two
twenty seven. But yes I was.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Because because I was about to say one of two
things when you said that. I was either like, hey,
where are you holding that weight? Because because of I
haven't seen you in person and you know your your
cutoff is right here?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Did a lot did something change?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Or like or b are you are you like ant
Man where you can just change your vision?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You could change your density and shit, like what is
going on?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That is hilarious? You're broke it down to four twenty
say he's a lighthulk. Now that's hilarious. But yeah, we'll see,
We'll see what happens, uh with this situation with that batman.
But so we'll see how the Clayface movie takes shape
and takes form and tune in of course four PMPT
for the hot or now sorry we're doing at nine
am on Thursday morning because Jeff is on the East

(32:09):
Coast in Boston, visiting his family for a few weeks.
So we're doing at nine am on Thursday morning. So
we'll talk about this and I'll hold Jeff's feet to
the fire on James Gunn's response to his let's move
on to this. We'll stay in the superhero realm Winston
a little bit. Rachel Brosnahan of course doing promotion for Superman,
and that is just I mean, as we're recording this

(32:33):
wind less than a month away, three weeks away, I
think from getting the Superman screenings and getting to the
first episode of first to screenings of them in the theaters.
She has a message for actors here who starred and
failed and embarrassing superhero superhero movies. Basically, on your shit,
she said. And this was an interview magazine, which I've

(32:53):
got to read the whole interview, but she said the
exchange started this has been going on for a little bit.
Oh sorry, So at the actress who plays Lewis Lane
and James guns upcoming. Schuemann got on the subject of
actors dissing their superhero projects during a recent interview magazine
chat with Amanda Seafreed. The exchange start with seafreied, saying
about superhero movies, that's the thing about these movies. You

(33:13):
can feel it when people are doing it with passion
and grace and curiosity. Then Rachel Brosnan replied, I don't
know why people say yes to a project only then
turn around and complain about it. Look, I don't want
to shit on other actors, but there was a minute
where it was cool to not like superhero movies and
to look back on projects like this and poop pooh
them do it or don't do it, and then stand

(33:34):
by it. This is very interesting when you think of
other people who've commented on this in the recent in
the recent, just recently, in this discussion here, Madam Web
co star Sidney Sweeney joke while hosting SNL you might
have seen me in anyone but you or Euphoria.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You did not.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
You definitely did not see me in Madam Webb. Christian
Bao criticized being a part of Love and Thunder, saying
the definition of it is monotony. You've got good people,
You've got other actors who are far more experienced to
it than me. Can you differentiate one day from the next. No,
absolutely not. You have no idea what to do. I
couldn't even differentiate when stage from the next. Also, of course,

(34:11):
Ryan Reynolds has made mocking his two thousand eleven Green
Lantern movie and ongoing punchline. And we had Dakota Johnson
earlier this week, of course, making comments about this kind
of stuff here, Winston, what did she say? Yeah, she
was talking about movies. It's so hard to get movies made,
in these big movies to get made. It's even starting
to happen with the little ones, which is totally freaking

(34:32):
me out. Decisions are being made by committees, and art
does not do well when it's made by committee. Films
are made by a filmmaker, a team of artists. My
feeling has been for a long time, the audience are
extremely starting executives have started to believe that they're not.
So this is an interesting situation. So how do you
take Rachel Brosnahan's comments, putting in Dakota Johnson's comments recently
about her work in big profile movies, and even Amanda Seafreet,

(34:55):
who was interviewing her, commenting about the advent of IP
and franchise movies happening here.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I agree and disagree with her. I agree with the
idea with Rachel. With Rachel specifically, I agree and I disagree.
I think that I agree that don't don't come for
the genre when it's over and be like, that's just
that stupid superhero stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Blah blah blah. You look like an ass when you
do that. You sign up for it.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
You got paid a lot of money. You know, people
give a damn about these characters, about these stories. If
you sign up for a character that most people have
never heard of unless they're diehard comic fans, that was
a choice to port to Johnson. But other than that,
the flip side is, I think we should be able
to be honest enough with ourselves to go that is

(35:47):
not my best work. And that's where I think Rachel's
a little off base here. I think people need to
good look back and go, yeah, that stand up joke,
I did you know? I thought it was great at
the time. I look back, it wasn't you know this
this song that I wrote. You know, I thought this
song was really good. Yeah, it has not aged well
or you know, it didn't didn't hit the way that

(36:08):
it should have.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
And that's on me.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Maybe my art didn't do like I need people to
be honest enough to allow things like that to happen,
you know what I'm saying. So I do think it
is a splitting of the difference here. I think she's right,
stop poo pooing, as she said it, on superhero movies,
on all that, on the genre. There are millions, millions

(36:32):
of people that have spent billions upon billions of dollars
on this stuff that they love. Yeah, yeah, so miss
me with with with actors that crap on that. But
I don't think it is a smart thing to say
you need to one hundred percent stand by every piece
of art you've ever put out. You should stand by
it and saying I did do that. I took part

(36:52):
in that. I had my part to play in that,
and if it didn't come out, almost like aquarterback, a
quarterback on a team, you can just as easily go, look,
there was a lot of things that we could have
done better. Man, Like you know, I know that our
defense is working on stuff, and know that our offense
work on stuff. But it starts with me, Like you know,
I was I was a key element in on the team.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
We didn't play well. Here's where I messed up.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
You need to be honest instead of being like I
played great, I don't know what I'll talk about. I
know we lost Boffota, but did you see that I
put up three touchdowns? Okay, bitch? What what like? We
you can do both at the same time. It is
kind of what I'm when I'm getting at it with Well.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I like Rachel's comments in the way that she's saying,
I don't know why people say yes to a project
only try to complain about it. But you're right, you
don't know how the project is going to go. Do
you know what I'm saying? And so I think there's
an there's I hear what you're saying, and I side
with you on that in that like, you can sign
up for a project and be excited about it, but
at the end of the day, if it's a bad
experience and it's a frustrating experience, then you know you've

(37:55):
got a right to express that opinion that point of view.
My thing is that when they start to make sweeping
judgments of the entire genre, like Dakota Johnson saying how
we're too obsessed with sequels and to obsess with remakes
and too obsessed with doing stuff that are that are
just basically that people want fresh things. They want to
feel things, experienced new things, see new things. It's a fallacy, right,

(38:18):
even a man of sea freed, in my opinion, a
man of ce free. This is our comments. I will say,
there's a little bit of fatigued with sequels. I want
original content. I think it's really scary and brave to
do it. It's not scary and not very brave to
do sequels. It's just for money, and it's frustrating. Then again,
I do Mama Mia three in a heartbeat, So which
is it. That's the thing that's frustrating is I think
some of these actors want to get paid in superhero

(38:41):
money to do independent movies because studios are still churning
out independent movies, small movies at large amounts per year.
They don't all go to the cineplex because when they
do put them out, nobody goes to see them. Hardly
anybody goes to see them. Even the materialists. Everyone's like, oh,
it's third highest opening a twenty four. How much did

(39:01):
it made? Oh, it made fifteen million globally. Imagine a
Marvel movie making fifteen million globally and it's opening, and
so it's of the things you look at and it's like,
you've got to balance this kind of stuff out. And
so I just think Rachel has a I think is
the right point of view in my opinion. But I
do hear you when you say, well, how can you

(39:21):
know how experience is going to go? Yeah, after you
do it? And should you not be allowed to speak
about your experience?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I think what I need people to do, because this
actually ties back into what we were talking about people
that are ride or die for the political party no
matter what. I need people to be able to do
two things at once. I never thought that that damn
Travis Kelcey commercial would be that poignant to my life.
But I need people to be able to hold water
for more than one thing. I think it is completely

(39:49):
reasonable to want to get paid you especially that with
the acting side of thing. Well you had just mentioned
her bringing up Mama mea three, and it's like, well,
which is it? It can be both. It could be
I really love this character and in the sense of
I really love this character and because it's the third,
it's gonna pay me a shit ton of money. So
you could have that part of you that says, yeah,

(40:10):
I'm gonna do that because I'll give you an example
personally in this a second. But then on the flip side,
also be like, I do think there is an overall
problem about how everything is IP, everything is seql.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I think both can be true.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I would even argue that a lot of the independent
stuff that's happening it's because studios are intentionally going out
of their way, yeah to make some of this stuff,
not market it well at all, And then be like, I.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Guess they don't want the original shit, stop it you you.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
I didn't even know about the Materialists until coy And
and Christian said something because the marketing was that bad
for it. They said something on Friday, and I was like, oh,
that's a movie, And then all of a sudden it
wasn't even that. It was somebody in the comments that's
super chatted about it. And that's the only reason I knew.
So like, there is a love which can see the studios.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Are up to no good.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
But but yeah, I like personal example, right, I am
doing everything in my power right now to live better,
eat better, have a have a cleaner life.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I know beer is bad for me.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I've been fully like now I'm not doing that, like whatever, whatever,
Beer is the worst thing you can put in your body.
It's empty carbs, empty calories, blah blah blah. Right, I'm
drinking a beer Roca. And it's not because it's not
because I don't acknowledge and understand that. But yeah, because
of the day I'm having, I'm both celebrating. You know,
a friend of mine, actually two three friends of mine

(41:35):
actually made.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
The practice squad for the World Dodgevole Championship.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
So they're they're about to start the combine and hopefully
they make the team fully, so I wanted to celebrate
with them and all that. Right, So like I can
equally say, yo, beer is not good, get beer away
from me, and then be like, I'm gonna have a
beer right now, you know what I'm saying. So the
same thing she could say, we are doing way too
much IP stuff. I'm gonna go cash this check real
quick if she's doing it with every movie she's doing.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Now you were talking out of your ass.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Okay, having a one exception a two exception at most
is not as egregious.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
And I think that's.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Where I get worried, is that we as people it's
either black or white.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
There is no gray, and that's not good, you know,
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I mean I don't fully agree, so, but we're not
big old final Yeah, I just disagree because I think
if you are going to make a stance about something,
then you've got to adhere to those morals and principles
of it, right, I mean ethics of it. You're saying,
I hate that Hollywood does this, but I will totally
do a sequel and make my money. So in essence,

(42:46):
you keep the machine going that you say you don't
want to be a part of. Now, I get it.
They could recast you and move on and you've missed
out on a payday. But that's the price of standing
for something. And so I hear you that. I hear
you that the black and we're too black and white.
I agree with you one hundred perent. But I also
think people think that they can have their cake and
eat it too rear too much recently, and that especially

(43:07):
the newer generation, and that frustrates me a lot because
it's like, no, you've got to take a stand and
you've got to fight for something. Like if I go
out and I'm protesting, no King's Day and then tomorrow
I take a job at Ice, which is it, you
know what I'm saying, or tomorrow because those.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Are just so drastically different, though, and the only reason
I hear I hear what I hear, I hear you
I want here's.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
The beer thing. But I don't think it's quite at
the level either. I think these are you know, we're
making our connections where we can. But you know, no, no,
I I.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I get I get it, I think. But that's that's
part of it. Is also being able to do do
the math on what is the effect on the stuff
that's going on. So a big one not to go
full political right now, A big one. Who has been
the Boycotta target because of their comments about de I
and things like that, right nine times out of ten

(44:00):
at this juncture, because I've been like kind of a
part of that boycott and being like, Okay, you don't
like black people, you don't like any people, then I
don't need to like you, and I could step off
that right nine times out of ten, I will not
go to target anymore to get the thing. If I'm
in an emergency right now and it's like bro, I
I'd crap my pants, I need to underwhere this's the
nearest store. I'm gonna go spend my money at Target.

(44:22):
Like I had a situation where I was going to
a baby shower and the present that we had did
not come in time, and so based off the stuff
that they specifically asked for, I broke down and just
went to Target. As long as I'm not doing that
on a regular basis. So again, if Mama Mia is
that special to her, because that's the example she wanted
to use, right, fine, But if I see you in

(44:45):
a whole bunch of damn sequels and you're talking out
your ass, now I know you were a bunch of
that's a bunch of bs.

Speaker 2 (44:50):

Speaker 4 (44:51):
That's and the only reason I said I can't include
the ice thing is because that is so egregiously more serious,
Like that's an instant.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's an instant.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
No, I want to get rid of every like, you
know what I'm saying, Versus like a scenario of if
let's say you said, Roca, I will never fight anybody.
I'm a peaceful person. I'm not gonna do that. But
then let's say somebody attack Lady outlaw you would fight them.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
You know what I'm saying. That's an exception because you're
defending someone you love.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
That's not a scenario where you say I don't fight
people and then you go pick fights all the time.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Those That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
That's the difference in my opinion, Right, can I get
it and I get it to me?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It's like, well, if you say this thing, then you
have to sacrifice something for your belief. And you could
sacrifice Winston by not showing up at that present at
that party, like you could have gone, like you know what,
we couldn't get it to you. When the stores open
again or wherever it is, I will promise I'll bring
it to you. But I couldn't go to refuse go
to Target. The lady Outlaw put me in a Target

(45:48):
timeout for forty days because there was the protest to boycott.
I was going insane the first few because I liked
to walk around and buy shit.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I really do. That's why they're getting so screwed. Realize.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I was like, no, she goes, No, you can't go,
and so for forty days I couldn't. And then there
was the Amazon boycott. I couldn't order any there's Amazon
for two or three weeks, I think it was or
a month, and I was put in my head through
a wall because I'd like to occasionally buy things and
get them when I get in the mood for them,
and so because I you know, when I can afford it,
that is. And so you have these things, but you sacrifice,
and so these are the things there has to And

(46:22):
I think we're kind of turning sacrifice into something novel
instead of something that is to cost you. And so
her turning down Mama Mia is a very strong stance
to take. I'm not agreeing this ever again, and this
is my sacrifice. I would respect that more. Although I
hear your point of view, wh I hear what you're saying,
because she's not doing it consistently so to make her

(46:44):
living doing sequels right, and so I hear what you're saying.
But that is at the court of this. It was
a frustration, right Winston, that are getting a chance to
be creatively fulfilled and paid the money they make it marvel,
which is how it used to be like twenty years ago.
For two hear movies became a big.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
No no no. I get it.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
And I think even to that point, she is almost
a bad example of all of this because she has
been in the industry for so long, she's had OSCAR nominations,
She's one built a good globe in an Emmy. She's
I don't believe in counting other people people's pockets, but
I'm pretty sure she's said, I'm sure she could skip
out on a mom and me at three and it'd

(47:22):
be fine, Like she would still be able to pay
her bills. Right, So I do get that that's a
little bit of a different type scenario. But I agree
with you there is a level of we have to
look at this ability to make genuine sacrifices. So from
that stance of what you're talking about, fully on the
same page with you. But that's all I just genuinely

(47:42):
think that we can. You gotta look at each individual
equation as its own individual equation. You can't make everything
a monolith. To that regard, you can have a general rule, right,
you really got to look at each individual scenario.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Fair point.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I like fantastics comment here. I sympathize with people who
are denied healthcare. Now excuse me, and while I vote
against this healthcare bell again.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
That's in healthcare.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Mell that's also a part of it too.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
But that's but that's again, that's completely different. That's a
massive permanent scenario. You know what I'm saying. If if I,
as a studio had said we got to stop making
these sequels over and over again, it's ruining art, it's
doing whatever in our next ten movies Iron Man of four, four.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Five, six, Captain America's five.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Then you are literally talking out of your ass, right.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
It was like Natalie Portman who made that big deal
at the Golden Globes about wanting to work with female
directors and female directors should be and then, you know,
and then didn't work with female directors for the next
eight year.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
That's completely that is that is pure hypocrisy, and that
sounds like an ass you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
It did she did.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
She never said I'd never want to work with the
male director again, but she did say I primarily only
want to work with women going forward. And yet you didn't.
So then so now I can look at you and go,
what are you what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah? Exactly so, yeah, so I wanted to get that,
bring that up for conversation.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
So I appreciate well, I thought that was our big
topic all of a sudden, like we really would.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
We we always find one. We never know which one
it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I never know where we're gonna find our I like,
we don't plan this stuff out. I like completely, uh
you know, uh, organic let's move on to this, Winston.
Let's talk about the Dodgers situation. Man, this is really
troubling if you think we're doing a bit of a
left turn here into the Dodger stuff, but the La
Times here. Dylan Hernandez wrote this just three days ago,

(49:38):
talking about how the cowardly Dodgers are remaining silent as
ice raids terrorize their fans. He was talking about Pride Night,
a Dodger's official received a commemorative scroll from La County
Supervisor to Lindsay Horvath before the team open in three
game series against John's. It is truly my pleasure were
celebrating pride with the Dodgers, especially time like just to
have the Dodgers look at our community, to see all
of us and celebrate everyone. It almost any other time

(50:00):
Horbet's presentation would have been inspired well, pride pride in
the Dodgers. On Friday night. However, with many parts of
La terrorized by large scale immigration sweeps, the county supervisor's
words evoked an entirely different range of emotion. You had
the demonstration against the federal raids, but the Dodgers have
remained silent on all of this stuff. Angel City and
LAFC released statements sympathizing with the residents. Angel CITYFC, even

(50:23):
Winston had shirts for all of their fans at a
game that said Immigration City, which was a way of
supporting people, which I thought was amazing. But the Dodgers
have done literally nothing. And they boast more than forty
percent of their fan base being Latino and they can't
even be bothered to offer the shaking community any words

(50:45):
of comfort. And I'm going to bring this up. This
young lady here performed the national anthem and she was
told not to do it in Spanish. This is singer
Naza and she did it in Spanish. Her full name
is Vanessa Hernandez. Formed the anthem in Spanish here amid
the protests in La for the No Kings marches and

(51:06):
against Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE. And following the performance,
Desa claimed the Dodgers told her not to sing the
anthem in Spanish beforehand watched. She said, watch the Dodgers
tell me I can't sing the Spanish Star Spangled banner
that Roosevelt literally commissioned in nineteen forty five, and then
the video custod dos a singing the song in Spanish.
So she did it anyway, and in a follow up video,

(51:27):
she says she's still very shaken up, an emotional I
got home for singing the national anthem and Spanish at
the Dodgers game, and it is the official Star Spangled
banner in Spanish. And because of this, I didn't think
I would be met with any sort of like, especially
because we're in La, any sort of backlash with everything
happening and I've sung the national anthem everywhere. She is
of Colombian and Dominican heritage, and the Dodgers did not

(51:51):
immediately respond to people's requests for comment. I think there
was a follow up TikTok with her where she said
that she has been banned for Sorry that fan from
Dodger Stadium as at and even a fan who was
wearing the bespectacle Elton John Dodgers outfit had the no
ice flag rate waving and they arrested her and took

(52:12):
her out of the stadium. A guy was on TikTok
and said that he wore a scarf that was supporting
Latin the LATINX community and anti ice raids, and they
told him to take the scar off or who's not
going to be led into the stadium. This is a
team that is a forty fan base that is Latino wins.
What the eff is going on here?

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Then?

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I mean this this this is last year all over
again with the debate about the you know, the Pride
night and night what was the nun choir and and
and all of that and whatnot. Because I just talking
about what you're looking at. I've got the NBC Los
Angeles article up here and they're saying.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
That, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
According to a statement from the Dodger spokesperson Tuesday said
that they would welcome Nza back and that there were
no consequences of hard feelings regarding her performance. She was
not asked to leave. We would be happy to have
her back, the statement continued. Howevernessa said she was confused
because she said the statement was not the same message
she had her doing a phone call after her performance.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
The singer said that.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Before she even left the stadium, we were told, verbatim,
don't ever call us again, don't ever email us again.
Your clients are never welcome here ever again. And then
they hung up, right, And I am honestly more inclined
to believe that than I am to believe that, because
because there's an easy way to prove that that's not
what they meant, right right, You invite her back? Yeah,

(53:41):
that's that is. That is the Spanish again.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yes, that is. That is a quick way to do it.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
But I'm more inclined to believe her because I can
tell you, without getting into specifics, the amount of people
that I know in this industry that had major things
coming up for them. I'm talking about the film and
TV industry here coming up for them that have full
on been canceled by studios and or networks because they're like,
we're not really doing any more DEI stuff. And it's like,

(54:07):
so you're cow telling then to Trump's essentially racist agenda
and this idea of white Washington America that's what make
it great again looks like is this idea of just
fully blanketing over that, And to be honest, I'm not
necessarily surprised by the Dodgers, and like, I think I
might like as much as I enjoy watching Otani. Yeah,

(54:27):
I might be able to be like I don't need
to watch them anymore, just from the standpoint of you
did that thing last year with the whole Nun situation
and went on and getting rid of Pride Nite, then
scrambling to bring it back. You went to the White
House and you were just chumming it up with Trump.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
The whole time.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
And the only person that really has kind of stood
their ground, I gotta give like you gotta give him.
I gotta give him props because he called out Trump,
he called out Ice yep, you know, and and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
As an individual.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Now, if they want to drop Key, even though he
is one of the better players on the team, that's
that their detriment. They don't need this as a young lady. Unfortunately,
she needs them more than they need her. So that's
why they can take a hard stance. But you can't
drip Kik if you're trying to go and win another title,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Of course, it's about it's about whatever's convenient for them
baseball wise, right, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And so yeah, finish. No, no last thing. I was just
gonna say.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
I was like, it's a decade what you said, fan
base just for the Dodgers, but then baseball in general,
it's it tends to be a lot of Latin and
a lot of Asian fans. There's obviously still you know,
whites and blacks and all that who also support the sport,
but let's just keep it a buck that like Latin
America and Japan specifically really kind of have baseball on

(55:47):
Locke at this point if we're being if we're being honest,
so certainly a choice.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
It's like, it's crazy. Dave Roberts said he was asked
about it in a press conference uh for one of
the games if he has anything about the thoughts on
the protest against ice in Los Angeles. No, Roberts said,
I don't know quite enough. You're living in one of
the biggest cities of the war in the world, managing
one of the biggest teams in the world, and one

(56:12):
of your players has come out with a post on
Instagram calling out the situation. You're saying, I don't know enough.
That's the thing that's frustrating to me, and I think,
isn't Dave Roberts black? Like, well, what if this was
happening to black people and they were being well, I mean,
you could argue it has been happening for decades in
this country. But if they were.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Being Dave Roberts, Dave Roberts is Hapa, he's half black,
half Japanese.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
That's even Yeah, there you go. So being of Japanese descent,
you know what it's like to have your people round
it up and put into camps. In the history of
this United States or in the nineteen forties, and being black,
you know how systemic injustice and racism can work when
a person who comes in charge wants to use the
levers of power to come after people of color. So
to say I don't know enough is a massive cop

(56:58):
out and grading me.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's it's super annoying and I would much rather them
speak out and be be bold, be courageous.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
God forbid.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
But if I had to put dollars to donuts, I'm
sure that that's like like in a lot of situations,
like with the chiefs, I'm sure that's coming down on
how shut up, just shut up?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And KK made a choice. And again we'll see if
that if if all of.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
A sudden, I don't know what his contract is, if
all of a sudden he gets traded or his contract
doesn't get picked up and the numbers are there, Yeah,
you have your answer.

Speaker 2 (57:36):

Speaker 4 (57:36):
So I could also see a Dave robinsonario where he's
just like they told me to shut up and I
and I would put that more at the feet of
the organization than I would any individual. Now, mind you.
I like my like heroes of my team to be
more like Jalen Hurts and aj Brown and all that,
to be like, ah, bro, that's wild.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I'm fortunate I got shit going on. I can't go
to the White House.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Oh well, you know, I prefer my leaders to be
the Steve Kurz and to call it out and the
papovich Is and call it out and the steps that.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
That's what I prefer. But I also can.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Understand if there's a level of office on high set
shut the hell up, then sometimes you're you're gonna you're
just gonna follow follow suit on it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
It's it's depressing. I hate it, but you know.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
That's that's again, That's what I'm coming back to. What
we talked about earlier, like sacrifice, like do people care
about morality anymore? And ethics and principles. Look, I'm not
saying that people should be here illegally. Of course they
shouldn't be here illegally, but there's also a due process.
There's also a thing we've set up in order to
make this happen. What you're doing is arresting people at
their jobs and shipping them out. People are showing up

(58:49):
to their immigration hearings and they're doing everything, they're paying
their te they're supposed to do everything they did, they're
working all this kind of stuff and they're adhering to
the all and even those people are being deported. And
it's so frustrating when you look at this kind of
stuff because it's like even people And now you've got
the situation in Chicago where they pumped out these in

(59:12):
these emails to people who are on the immigration list
or who are you know, in the process of getting
their green cards, have just got their green cards, and
they told them to show up at a place, and
they showed up at a place and deported a bunch
of them. So essentially they kind of lied to them
about what this was all about they thought they were
following the rules and showing up to a place to
have a conversation about their immigration status. No, it was

(59:34):
to round them up and deport them, because from on
high there is this almost malevolent desire to get rid
of people who are here illegally without any due process,
and ripping fathers and mothers away from their kids. There's
that one in New York, that video they posted this morning. Yeah,
little girl, but also the young man who came there

(59:54):
and his wife is crying and losing her shin. Four
guys are holding this guy and yanking him around, who
are all claw, you know, covered up and stuff, and
so it's it's just so frustrating to see this stuff
happening because immigrants are the backbone of this country. Immigrants
do so much work for this country to keep it running,
and to have these people come in and rip them away,
and then you have the confounding thing, no, we're not

(01:00:15):
going to go after hotels and farms all this kind
of stuff. And then two days later, because Maggie gets
pissed off of that, that we are going to go
after the hotels and the farms, and so it's just
so and I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
And I guess that's the other thing that's crazy to me, Like,
you know what, it's not. It's not that crazy because
now that I think about it, they they've never lied
about who they are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
No, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I think because there was the my favorite part of
of the last couple of days of ridiculousness.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
And I could be cold for this. Yeah, so call
me out if I am.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
But there's this young there's this young lady of Latina descent.
Her father was dying of cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Deported.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
She made a crying plea to them to reverse it,
like he's gonna die. Can I can my father just
die with his family? Can you not essentially take him
away from anything that's gonna keep him comfortable, to keep
him away from his family, et cetera, et cetera. And
they're like, sorry, nope, we're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
This.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
You go back and you look at her stuff. She
was a die hard maga. So like that whole that
whole video, I will both like that whole shit she
was reposting that ship. She was a super die hard mega.
I don't feel bad for her. I feel bad for
her father. Yeah, I do not feel bad for her
or anybody in that family.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That voted for you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
You voted for this ye, So it becomes very hard
for me to give a damn about your Like I
can logically have empathy and go, damn, that is genuinely
horribly sad, But I don't feel a lick of it
for you personally, because you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Decided this is what you wanted, and so now you
got to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
It right one nd percent? And what was it when
you always bring up Winston? I didn't know the leopards.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
The leopards would eat my face, hey man, shout out
to Francesca.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
But yeah, I I it is, it is what it is, man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
And so it's funny Trump stopped on the on the
the home depots and the farms and the and the
hotels because his rich buddies were like, bro, you just
destroyed my business. And then people got mad. And here
in Taco Taco, Trump was like, oh, you're right, Oh
my god, I gotta stop. And then they go, hey,

(01:02:38):
you said you were gonna get rid of all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Is this what nation or not?

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Oh, you're right, We're gonna go again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
We're going again, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Come on, it's craziness to me, Like that's the thing
at the end of the day, it's it's about consistency
and a real understanding of the situation as opposed to
just you know, going back and forth and swinging back
and and where do you land on all of this stuff?
What's your actual again? What is your actual principle and
ethic and moral morality here? And can you stand by

(01:03:09):
your decision? The indecision, the flip flopping is the thing
that is supremely frustrating when you look at this stuff,
because then no one has a consistency to base their
decisions on or their actions on, because you don't even
have a consistency and what you're enforcing or not enforcing.
So how can you expect others to adhere to this
stuff if you're also going to change your mind from
one day to the next. You know, I drive around now,

(01:03:32):
I mean I got a little nervous. And I was
born here, I'm an American, but I got nervous driving
to the outlet mall the other in San Clemente. I
saw three trucks pulled over an ice agent's I pulled
the truck over, crease trucks over, and I'm like, oh
my god, what is going on here? And then walking
in the outlet mall, I was like, you know, putting
in the mindset, what if I was an immigrant to

(01:03:53):
this country, how much fear would I have just trying
to spend my money in the economy that at any
moment I could walk out of a store and get
picked up. And I was like, this is not even
Can I say this one more thing?

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
And then lady I was telling her about this here
then and she goes, now, imagine what it's like to
be black, and I was like, fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Spot on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I know. I was like, I've always talked about what
this is like, but like that was where I felt
it viscerally walking around and I was like, damn, that's
fucking intense, man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
So all I was gonna say is I don't I
don't say this lightly. Calvit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Calvot came right in, That's exactly how black people feel
every day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
That's that's that's that's spot on. But what I was
gonna say to you was, this is not a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Keep your passport on you everywhere you go at this point,
and that because that won't even necessarily save you, but
it has a higher probability of doing so because they've
already set people that are legally supposed to be here out,
So don't be caught in a scenario where any like
keep keep your your your you know, military papers or
your passport or whatever it is. Because this that that

(01:05:07):
is why the protests have been happening. It's purely because
this is not in any way, shape or form civil
or is it legal.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
But they don't care. America don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
It's not well, unfortunately, I agree what we say, we
want to be right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Who are correct? It is an American who we actually are.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
As you mentioned, this is the lady I will say
to you, Now, imagine being black. That's what it's like.
That's what I'm saying. America has always been this way.
We're just showing our face in a very ugly way,
worse than we have in a while. That's that's the
big difference here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Yeah, And I know, I love my country. I served
my country for eight years. I love being an American.
I loved growing up in this country. Some like you know,
my incredible experiences in the in this country. And I
would never trade for anything, right, And so when we
come from this place of trying to of trying to
make the country a better place and criticize the country
for the things that are going on now under this administration.

(01:06:07):
It's not because we hate the country. And that's the
stupid nonsense, the narrative that they throw I hate the country,
as if criticizing your father means you hate your father
or your mother, or your sister, or your brother or yourself.
It's not. It's that you want them to do better.
You want the country to do better. And the way
we deal with people, and these are Christians, to say,
and one of the big Christians, whatsoever you do to

(01:06:29):
the least of my brothers, that's how you do unto me.
Why does that lesson get thrown out when you're dealing
with people who've crossed an imaginary line in the line
in the dirt, or just trying to make a better
life for themselves. Yes, they're criminals, they should be absolutely deported,
put in jail, what have you. But they're the heart.
They're not arresting those people. It's the hard working folks.

(01:06:51):
Or it's a low percentage of people that are criminals
that they're that they're deporting. It's a much higher number
of people who are a percentage of people who are
actually working in this country and contributing this economy and
doing all the things that they're supposed to do by
the book.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Like I said, if you're gonna do this one way
or the other, it's the same call out that we've
had about Doge and their bullshit. I want a paper trail.
Show me specifically, where did this particular individual. This is
where they're a criminal, This is where we have the
evidence for. This is where they went to court and
saw their day in court, and it didn't and it
played out this way, and that's why they've been deported
into where they're going show me that. You show me

(01:07:26):
that like or make a legitimate database where all of
this is from top to bottom. You will be very
hard pressed to find people that look at that and go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
No, don't sit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
They got their opportunity to prove themselves and in which
case they broke the law, and I think we would
all agree. Now, mind you, there's a very interesting quote
that I saw and I reposted in it of itself.
It used to be completely legal to own people and
to beat your wife, and to do all sorts of
things that were legally right. And there is a point

(01:07:58):
at which I need people to remember or the difference
between some following something because it's legal and following something
because it's moral. Is im moral to do what we
are doing at this particular point, to rip families apart
like that, to not look at individual scenarios of yeah, okay,
you didn't turn in your proper information for that stuff.
You have been here a tax paying you know, individual

(01:08:20):
this entire time. You've never gotten in trouble with the law.
You have a family, you have people that are looking
at Okay, here is your x amount of window and
a legitimate time knowing how our system works to solve
this problem. And if you don't, that is your last
absolute chance. I'm sorry you got to go at that
point versus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Nope, oh you missed it by you're out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Because they're catching people before they even walk into their
court cases. And it's not just it's not even just hey,
come and let's talk about it. It's they are walking
into court and they stop them and they grab them
and then they run them like that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, And you're seeing democratic politicians being arrested, like Senator
Padie out of California just for asking you or the
guy today in New York Brett Lander, who is running
for mayor of New York. He's the comptroller there in
the state. He was he has been escorting immigrants out
of their court cases for the last six months. And
today as he was doing everything that he's done normally,

(01:09:15):
and numerous times he was escorting him, they ICE pushed past,
and these well, I don't even know if there are ICE.
These four men who did not identify themselves, covered in masks,
one not covered, and they grabbed him and they arrested
him just for not letting go of his client, you know,
or it was. It was mind blowing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I am grateful that we haven't heard anything about these
agents getting killed or anything like that. Right, of course,
you don't want violence against you don't want that, but
you've got to understand, similar to what happened with the
Breonna Taylor scenario, they did not, as it was proven
in court, they did not announce themselves properly and didn't
follow the proper thing on the warrant. Someone shoots into
your house, you're thinking you're being robbed, You're gonna shoot back.

(01:10:00):
So in the same breath, it is only a matter
of time for these ICE agents to be rolling up
like this in in plane clothes and to be essential
kidnapping people off the street, that randomly someone's gonna all
of a sudden they're gonna try and fight back. And
now this is gonna escalate to a the way that
we don't need it to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
We don't need an American dying from this stuff. I
agree one hundred percent Winston. But people are turning up
the heat, just like Trump's sending in the National Guard
and the Marines and all unnecessarily for the end. I'm
not saying these protests were all peaceful, of course, I
saw the videos. They were throwing stuff at the police,
I know, but the police possibly also instigated those accusations
of throwing flash bangreades into these car. Reporter. Yeah, the reporter,

(01:10:39):
the Australian reporter getting shot in the leg that shot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
There was another one where this dude standing there. Yeah,
he was standing there. He goes, don't you touch me?

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
And then they were like, I didn't you know you
didn't I will rescue right now. And then they showed
the previ and then the reporters like, we have it
on tape. I don't know about your body cam, but
we were live.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I have the tape. I can run it back.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
You touched me first, so like, but that's but that's
what I'm saying. And and and let alone the fact
that you spoke on the individuals in Minnesota that were shot,
that the lawmakers and their spouses, right, yeah, yeah, grow
in the fact that that was someone dressed like a
cop going around making.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Claims and then use that as a means to get through.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
So to continue to have these individuals dress the way
they are and act the way they are, not identify
themselves and go through the legal Now people are term
for they don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Is this really a police officer, a killer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Trusted in the things that are supposed to protect us? Winston, Right,
that's a great point you bringing up, brother. Yeah, that's
the that's the that's the result or one of the
results of the things that you're doing is you're creating distrust.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
And I watched the press conference with the guy in
charge of the LAPD a few days ago, and he
was like, listen, we did not call in the National Guard.
We were able to handle these riots. We did not
need the extra help. We want don't want to lose
trust of the community. We want the community to be
able to call us if stuff's going down, if they
need us, all this kind of stuff. And then you
go out and watch them in these in these protests,
and they're shooting people with rubber bullets who are just

(01:12:16):
standing reporters who are just standing there. They're picking fights
with the media. I saw one where they pushed down
a woman who was who was I think homeless, and
she heard her she was bleeding from her head. They
just dragged her and threw her on the side of
the sidewalk. And these things that you're seeing, you're saying again,
you're saying one thing, but your actions are saying something
completely different. And no one listen. No one wants to

(01:12:38):
distrust the police. We rely on them to protect us
and be there. And I've served in the military. I
know what it's like to want to be there to
protect people and save people from bad situations. But if
you start to so distrust amongst the community against that,
that's going to lead to self policing, which will lead
to more violence and deaths and mentality, and that becomes

(01:13:01):
dangerous and then becomes lawlessness. And that's the last thing
you want in our country right now. So it's depressing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
And I'm not going to sit here and pretend that
cops aren't human beings as well, and that they aren't terrified.
Like the directive they're told from their training is get home,
get home to your loved ones. That's your only directive
that but starting from that place instead of making that
an important thing to keep in mind, because if you

(01:13:30):
sign up to be a cop or to be in
the military, like you said, you are making a sacrifice,
so you have to act like you're making a sacrifice.
That doesn't mean you don't take care of yourself, right,
but you should be leading with the idea that I
am making a sacrifice for the people that I am
supposed to protect.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
So that doesn't mean you go in with aggression.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
It means you should always be de escalating the situation
and keeping the laws that you promised to up here,
the freedom that you promised to do it here. So I
get it. You see a lot of stuff going on,
things like that. I understand the impetus to one of
but that does not excuse immediately jumping jumping to nonsense
right period. But unfortunately, like I said, there are too

(01:14:13):
many people in power right now that have made.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It very clear. Nah, they can do what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a scary time right now.
We still have three and a half more years of
this stuff, unless it has.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Even six months broke.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
It's three days more, six months of this shit, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
And unless the midterms turn this around, I think it's
gonna be tough. And of course, even if they try to,
you've got more onns like John Feennerman who are quite
happy carrying water for Trump now all of a sudden,
and it's it's so frustrating. I do love the new
Gavin Newsom though, you know, same as the old Gavin Newsom.
Now I like that, but we need more and and
uh Pritzker there in Illinois, but we need more politicians

(01:14:55):
coming out and being angrier and being you know, calling
this stuff out. I had my Senator Padilla for confronting
Christinome there in that press conference and asking questions. You've
got to do that, You've got to push back, and
so we'll see what happens. But because we again I
understand why this is all going on, and I get it,
but you've got to adhere to the Constitution and do

(01:15:16):
process and it isn't about Yeah, I mean the fuck
your feelings crowd are telling you now about their feelings
and it's like that, which.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Is literally why I felt nothing for that girl personally
that was talking about her dad. It's fucked my feelings,
but I should care about yours.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Yeah, yeah, right exactly. So we want a better country.
The only way to get about a country is if
we all come together and accept each other and have
and go back to civility. But it's very tough to
do when once I seems invested in life and death
and the other side is just trying to maybe navigate
this with mine fields.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
I just reremembered, did I send you the real about
the about Jesus right now in the midst of all
the ice stuff. No, it's a hilarious reel of this
of this comedic actor who.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Essentially is like and man like. I came back.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
I was trying to like help the people, and then
the next thing I know, Ice gin in my face talking.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
About freeze and when he's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Like he was actually at home, debo. I think they
did that on purpose because obviously Jesus being a carpenter,
but also because the raids and so I said freeze.
And then when he dropped the piece of wood he
was holding, he didn't put his hands up like this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
He put him up like this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I was like, oh yo, buh, oh, my god, that's crazy. Wow. Uh. Yes,
Jasmine Crockett, I love her, Yes, Keem, Jefferes Aocs, Bernie Sanders,
a lot of them. You know, the cacophony of voices
needs to get louder and louder. We club with so many.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
So all right are we? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I know there was other topics becaus Winston, but we're
almost out of time. We got to get to these questions.
Should just get to the questions. Let's do it. Let's
do the questions, all right. Fantastic, says Medea. Loves the men,
so hell jamb says, glads look good, Winston Roka looking
trim for now. Yeah, we'll see thank you. Mom. Raw
thoughts on Paul Rubin's documentary Emotional Watch loved it. I

(01:17:08):
haven't seen it. It's three hours, it's two parts hour
and forty hour and twenty. I think, have you seen
it yet?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
No, I am definitely going to watch it in the
next few days.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
I was, I was a little too young or not
paying attention to pee wee. So I know basic things
like the secret word of the day and stuff, but
I just don't know enough about it. So it'll be
interesting to watch at some point. But he just doesn't
hold the same place with other people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Fair enough, cowboys. Fannine two says, Hi, guys, Happy Tuesday.
John Wistony, Have you guys seen what James Gunn said
about Hollywood is dying due to films being made with
unfinished scripts? This comes to us from the Hollywood Reporter. Yeah,
I did see that, but I think you can come
up with all kinds of reasons why quote unquote Hollywood
is dying, which they've been saying since I think the
nineteen twenties. I mean, he is he green lit a

(01:17:50):
film with a finished script and they canceled the film.
So you know, what is the truth here? Again? What
is the consistency here? He said that in the same
interview that he canceled they canceled a film because the
script wasn't ready. Well, why did you greenlight it and
cast it if it was wasn't ready? The script wasn't ready,

(01:18:10):
So it's a confusing thing to stand on. But I
don't think finished scripts mean great movies either, right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
So necessarily, yeah, roka, I finished bring up stand up again.
I finished a fantastically I finished a stand up joke.
I was about to say it was fantastic. It wasn't fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
It was terrible. It was a bad joke, but I
finished it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
It was it was I had hitted it multiple times,
things like that, and it just wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
So no, I think that it can.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
It can play into it if you're telling me if
he has pooth to be like no, no, no, no.
I can point out, like eighty percent of the films
in Hollywood, they're genuinely only about fifty percent of the
way through the writing and they're going forward. If that's
what you're telling me, then okay, then maybe you need
to have a conversation, and maybe that is part of
the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
But yeah, I have.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Seen people kind of wing it plenty or get in
there and go this doesn't work. We got to go
back to square one on this particular area.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
You know, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Do your research on David Milch. David Milch essentially did
all the seasons of Deadwood lying on his back, composing
the scripts on set. On set, it was not written
out ahead of time, which some actors loved and some
actors hated. The last couple of seasons, last couple of
seasons that he was on NYPD Blue, he did that
they weren't finished scripts. And so finished scripts are are

(01:19:28):
nice and they're a good crutch, but it doesn't mean
it's going to lead to a great movie, because unfinished
scripts have led to great movies in the marvel side
of things. Derek Johnson, what's the boogiest thing you do?
Maybe I'll confess to mind if yours are good? What
is a bougie what's the definition of a bougie thing?
Is that like a rich thing, very.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Upper crust, upper class? Oh, I'm better than all of
it type Oh thought, I'm trying to think. What is
something bougie that I do? Do a lot of boogie things.
I just nothing is sticking out in my brain directly. Maybe, Oh,
I mean complete rare exception because I just really can't

(01:20:07):
make it happen. I will only fly in the main
cabin extra seats, and the reasoning for that is because
it's just as tall as I am. If that flies
longer than forty five minutes, I am FFing my knees up,
like very badly because some seat crunches into me, so
I need the leg room. I guess you could say
that I'll come up with a better bougie thing, but

(01:20:28):
let's go with that for now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Oh well, I think my boogie thing is I don't
like to sit near people in movie theaters.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I will now buy a seat next to me, or
two seats next to me so that no one can
sit there if I go to a movie theater that
is somewhat full, not fully full. I don't like to
do that because then you're denying people the right to
see a movie. But I will absolutely buy a seat
or two next to me because I have the regal
in the AMC plus, so those tickets and essence, in

(01:20:58):
my mind, are free once I pay the fee for
the for the month, and so I can I can
afford to pay an extra ticket if it's a really
good movie and I don't want someone near me. So
that's kind of what I do. And even now at
press screenings, if it's a full I call ahead of
time to the gut, to the people in charge. Is
it a full press screening, I'm not showing you like
I don't because people talk and eat and con hotel
so that's bougie for me. I would say, you know,

(01:21:20):
because who am I to fucking need to not be
near people at a movie theme? Kyle Wilson says, in
my opinion, US politics and marketing of trainers to think
Coke versus PEPSI where I believe most people are in
the middle. Do you like arc Cola? Sometimes I wouldn't
call Arcy Cola in the middle, but I do like
to be in the middle Winston.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
I mean, sure, if if I am, I take everything
as an individual thing. I just found that most of
the time I tend to lean more to the left
and the progressive side of things because most of the
things that I stand for tend to go in that direction,
you know what I'm saying. So like, yeah, I mean,
I will always hear somebody out, and I will always

(01:21:59):
be willing to negotiate on stuff, but I'm not willing
to sacrifice his people people's humanity. And that's part of
where I think things get kind of murky, is that
people will make declarative statements but not actually think about
who it's truly affecting.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Yeah, yeah, and you think of this, I would say
Roupier is more the middle, and that rc Cola like
Doctor Pepper or Doctor Pepper. Yes, I would agree Doctor
Pepper is more in the middle. Yes, Matt Senre's a McCall.
Is Sinner still your number one or did F one
beat it? No, Sinners is probably still my number one
movie of the year, with Warfare right after it, But

(01:22:35):
one F one. I don't even know if F one
will make my top ten because we still have six months. Yeah,
there there are some There are some story issues with
a couple of the storyline, a couple of characters, storylines
that I felt were quite as developed as I needed
them to be. But I still think this is an
incredible film that people are going to love, you know.

(01:22:57):
And there have been already reviews out today where some
people have touched on this up that I noticed as
well when I was watching the movie. So yeah, yeah,
we'll see Derek Johnson back again. Thanks. Derek, says Trump
as the wheel of the federal government is hands surrounded
by sick events, unafraid to use that power. Being brave
for some is a luxury, no matter how much money
you make we are in much scarier times than most
people realize. I know you're right, Derek. What do you

(01:23:19):
think about this?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I agree, And that's why I was saying that, Like
I give the manager a baby bit of a break
for that, But I think to that point, you would
need the whole of the team to come together to
make a stance, or you'd be such a big element
that they can't get rid of you. So let's say
that Eagles ownership really were like, no, y'all all are going.
You're gonna tell Jalen Hurts your Super Bowl MVP, he's gone. Now,

(01:23:45):
you know what I'm saying, Like, that's there's a point
at which for some people you'd need enough power to
make that stance, or you go to Colin Kaepernick a
way and you go, fine, I'll burn it all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
You either need to be able to make the ultimate
sacrifice and well, next we'll call it panultimate because the
ultimate sacrifice obviously is dying. But you know what I'm saying,
like the idea of he threw his entire career out
in order to make it to make a point, and
you just got to sometimes be willing to do that
and some people can't or won't. I think that there
are each individual scenario needs to be looked at. Again,

(01:24:23):
I think nothing can be a broad stroke. I think
you have to look at individual things.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
But I think there is like look at the No
Kings Day. I mean those were massive protests. What is it,
almost six million or four million people across the country,
some crazy it was, were marching and it drowned out
that limp, flaccid military parade that he tried to pull
off to glorify himself in Washington. And that should tell

(01:24:51):
you that the country is not behind this stuff. And
no matter how crazy, there is opportunities for people who
are in this inner circle to start pushing back, to
start not listening to him, to take away his power
if they wanted to do it, and unfortunately not a
lot of people want to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
I agree, And then like a quick aside, I also
think you know the numbers were what ninety million eligible
people didn't vote? Yeah, and it was seventy seventy seven
to seventy five million something like that. So yes, there's
also a level of like I'd be very curious to
see how many people went to that protest that decided
not to vote, and then they want to sit here
like you know what I'm saying, there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Level of right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
That's a great want to be responsible for the things
that we do. I'm not saying that those protest should
have happen. They definitely should have, and they did send
a message. But let's take it a step further. Let's
not just make signs. Let's legitimately. Wow, that's a good
starting point. Seven million people, Let's really try and make
a third party, Like you know what I'm saying, Like that,
that's that's an opportunity for people to step up beyond

(01:25:48):
being in the streets and waving signs and honking horns
and actually do something.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
That's a great point. Winston. Yeah, because if you didn't vote,
this is on you. If you voted for Trump, this
is on you. If you vote with Jill Stein, this
is on you. Basically, if you didn't vote for anyone
or didn't vote for Kamala Harris, this is on you.
This is how it works. You know, elections have consequences.
Derek says immigration judges can now dismiss cases, which allows
federal agents who immediately detain to deport them. They're literally

(01:26:16):
waiting in hallways and courtrooms. And yeah, Derek, we've seen
the videos. It's super depressing. It's so sad to see
this stuff happening again, especially to hardworking people. If it
was happening and it was like these criminals, like it
was ninety five percent criminals and five percent are getting
caught up in the net who are not criminals, Okay,
I get it. But the fact that it's almost what

(01:26:37):
I don't know, eighty to ninety percent are hardworking people
in this country who have contributed to this country's economy
and what have you. Then it becomes a situation where
it's not really being dolled out in a way that
makes sense and it's fair to the economy of the country,
you know, Derek says. Anybody know that the Statue of
Liberty also represents the defeat of slavery in America? There
are chains on the feet which was covered up again,

(01:26:57):
a complete washing of our history.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
I know that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Is that true? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I didn't know that. I did not know that. I
not have to look that up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Cowboy's fan, I too. Hey, everybody be safe ice er everywhere.
By the way, I was humbled to see the world
come out to protest Trump with us on No King's Day. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Absolutely, yeah, dude, I'm looking at it. There was there's
broken chains at her feet.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Wow. Wow, that's surprising. I didn't know that. It's like
the Tulsamasker a watchman. I had no idea about that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
I didn't know until that, and I've embarrassed that I
didn't know that. But there's been a campaign to make
sure we don't know about that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
So he did more so now, I mean Trump just
had the MLK bust removed from the White House. In
the White House, it's crazy. Jarrek Johnson's saved money and
tighten that wall at unemployment rate, will skyrot get in October, Terrace,
I hit already in effects. You'll start seeing around November.
It's going to be a wild Thanksgiving and Christmas. We'll see,
we'll see, Derek. Sometimes you've been wrong in your prediction.

(01:27:56):
Sometimes you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
I really hope that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
I really really hearing is wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
But unfortunately that a lot of that is pointing in
that direction. So it's good advice to tighten the wallet
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Absolutely, thank you, Derek. Kyle Wilson. By the way, my
question was literal and metaphorical two things talking about coke
and PEPSI.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Oh, fair, a deep my mood? What's up? A deep Rocca?

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Happy that the Red Sox traded Devors, Yes, but seeing
of the Red Sox fans losing their minds and try
to blame Liverpool for that roof for why they got
rid of Devers. Liverpool and foreign vertz have nothing to
do with John Henry getting rid of Devers. That was
all about Devers not wanting to play first base and
them paying him three hundred and some million dollars. And
he's over, He's in his thirties and so I think

(01:28:42):
they just wanted to get rid of him because they
want to save money and start over. So but I'm happy,
you know. Heck Compace fanaged leastlie to Europe. Having lived
in the UK from twenty twenty twenty three, I can
say you have no right to judge the USA and
USA as a people because England's politics are not done
or run well either, let alone voted for That's fair. Yeah,

(01:29:02):
sometimes people from other countries are judging us. You're not
seeing their own stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
If we're zeus, you know Britain's Kronos bro like, I mean,
we we got we got that ship from my daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
What are you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Fantastic? Three four Teams is How to Train Your Dragon
was really good. They made minor storyline chases, but I
thought they worked. Yeah. I haven't seen this one yet, Winston.
I'm gonna try to see it tomorrow. You haven't seen it, Okay, Okay,
about I hear great things.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
I have to I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
I Hey, good things, good things? Did Kyle mean Shasta?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
I do like Shasta totally.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Man, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
That's good Shasta. Chris Corker in thoughts on Iran, I
think Trump wants wartime powers and it's breaking his anti
war promise. Shocker, BB fled de grease after firing the
first shot.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
I haven't been keeping up on this stuff too much.
It's been it's been crazy. It's been crazy. I don't
they don't have a lot of time to jump into
because I got a head out in a minute. But yeah,
that happened. Fire the shot immediately re indigreees. It is
gonna be interesting to see what happens because Trump is
running his mouth hardcore about Yeah, we're gonna back as
we're gonna do this while not only people in his

(01:30:18):
cabinet and whatnot, members of Congress and mainly his based
being like absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I actually saw a number of like people.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
When I go through their tweets, they are hardcore maga
being like, no, this is the last show. If you
do this, I actually am done with you. So hopefully
this is legitimately the thing that calms him the f down.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
But yeah, see, we've seen people say they're gonna walk
away from Trump and then go right back to him,
So who knows how much of that is true? You're right, Kingsmorku,
y'all hear about the white YouTube beef that turned into
a double homicide. Yes, I saw the video in Vega.
That was horrible, That was terrifying. Yeah, that dude, that dude,
he kept that anger all the way through the drive

(01:30:57):
into the confrontation. That is scary. That's unhinged on mental
health issues. Yep, Jared Johnson, My boogie thing is I
fly to Minnesota every four months to get my hair done.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I get it's along by my barber.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
I know Winston can attest how hard it is to
find someone to do natural hair.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
No, He's not wrong. Dereck Johnson is spot on that
that is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
That is bougie.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
I don't know where you're living now, DJ, But you
can't find a single You ain't got a single other
black friend that could be like hey man, no.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
They do.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
They do great brains over weird, Like god, damn. That
is that is epically bougie.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
That is hilarious. I love it. I love to have
Dereck Johnson money. Just going to do my hair here? Yeah,
every four hell yeah, Matt SAIDs to call. You think
Joe Stein will win in twenty twenty eight. I don't know.
She won't even run him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Where is she? That's the question every time I hear
her name. Where is she right now?

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Where is she right now?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Back in Trump's bunker Kyle Wilson. Thankfully, the protest at
San Antonio were relatively peaceful. The National Guarden San Antonio
Police Department over restrained. But we don't. We don't f
with the police. No one should be fing with the police, honestly,
and yes, I agree. It was amazing to see how
many police departments wins and tweeted out thank you to
the protesters. For not being violent and not having any altercations.

(01:32:09):
The San Diego Police Department did that, Seattle Police Department.
So many police departments did that, and I was really
surprised by that. So it was a relatively peaceful day,
which angered the MAGO and right wing even more because
they had nothing to point to to get upset people
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
I mean, they coppointed that squeaky ass tank. I'd be
pissed about that. That was embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
That's hilarious. All right, one last stream lab and then
we're going to get out of here. It's from my boy,
Doug Developer. He says, Hey, guys, let's settle the most
important debate right now when it comes to active quarterbacks
after the usual big four? Who is the fifth best?
Is it? Jalen hurts well, who's in the big four?
Is it Burrow?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
I think they're talking Burrow, Jackson, Allen and Mahomes. Who
is number five? I need to see. This is where
my brain is a little shot. If you haven't answer,
go for it. I just need to look quickly. Jayden,
of course you would say, good God, Good God God.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
It's so hard to take you seriously when you say
things like that. Okay, let's see who would I put
at number five?

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Murray, Michael Pennix. It's not Bryce Young, it's not Caleb,
It's it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Dak No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
I wish I wish I had, I wish I had
the just the full starting because I because I can't,
you know what, I know how I can solve this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I can just get No.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
No, I'm looking at the team names and I can
try and figure it out. Unless you have the quarterbacks there,
quarterbacks very one of the teams. I'll run through them
real quick, right, I know you got to go, so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
We're going real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Kyler Murray, Michael Pennix junior for the Falcons? No, uh,
Bryce Young for the Panthers. No Chicago Bears, Caleb Williams, Okay,
Cleveland Brownson just no in general. No, No Scott for
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
In the conversation, but no, I think he's at like
number nine.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Or ten, Okay, Jared Goff for the Lions. Maybe who
Jordan Love for the Packers. No CJ. Stroud for the Texans.
No Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones. No, No Trevor Lawrence,
no Gino Smith, No Justin Herbert conversation. Maybe Matthew Stafford conversation.

(01:34:32):
Maybe one of those three so far, No.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
JJ McCarthy, no Drake May, no Jackson Dart, no Justin Fields,
no Jalen Hurts conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
I think it might have to be Jalen because he's
the raigning Super Bowl MVP. He just won a Super Bowl.
He beat he beat Mahomes. I think that's my answer.
I hate that I have to admit that, but I
think you gotta go. I don't think he is the
most talented out of a number of the people we mentioned,
but I think he's gotten results and that is equally
as important in some I would never actually do it
because of the things at the top four do, but

(01:35:06):
there is a conversation to be had that he is
more impressive than Jackson, Allen and Burrow just by the
nature of He's gone to two Super Bowls in three
years and he won one of them, and he outplayed
Mahomes in the one that he got to before that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
So, like, I think you make a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
I can't believe I admitted that though gross Unfortunately YEA.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
East competitors, we have to admit it, right and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
I'll put Jadon already in top ten for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
Yeah, I liked I could make a case for Brock Purty,
to be honest with you, but.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
I think I put Purty just outside of ten only
because when he hasn't had the talent around him, he
has not been able to perform.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I kind of need to.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
See what he does now that you've gotten rid of
a number of key players and see if he can
still do it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
That's a good point. Yeah, that's wy I look forward
to see what Jaden can do with how much we've
gutted the receiving core for this season. It's gonna be interesting.
All right. We got to get out of here once.
I know you got to go. So thank you all
so much for hanging out with us on this episode
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we talk about everything. So thank you all for the
stream labs, thank you for the super chats and Winston, please,

(01:36:22):
thank you another show. Let people know where they can
find you in what you got going on.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
Yeah, you can find me at the Swaggy blurd on
all the platforms. I am headed to the Sparks game
right now, so I'm not going to be able to
finish my video, but I should hopefully have it out.
If not tomorrow, I'll get it out by Juneteenth. Of
who I think will be on Sam Wilson's Avengers team.
So that's that'll be a fun discussion there. And also
this Thursday, Juneteenth, Blurds in the Hood we are doing

(01:36:49):
a June teen special block party. Come on through say
what's up two o'clock Pacific time either YouTube dot com
slash Blurds in the Hood or twitch dot tv sizes
Blirts in the Hood. Finally Capes and Cols on Friday. Yeah,
maybe I'll stop by. That'd be fun to see you
guys go there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
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