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August 24, 2025 158 mins
John Rocha talks more Avengers: Doomsday drama and leaks, Spider-Man Brand New Day villain updates and Tramell Tillman speculation, James Gunn retcons Peacemaker and updates on Blue Beetle and Maxwell Lord, Star Wars news with Visions and Katee Sackhoff, Jillian Michels melts down.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro and Rundown
9:11 More Avengers: Doomsday Drama
26:15 Clarifying That It Was Not RDJ and Ryan Reynolds Fighting on Doomsday Set
36:15 Robert Downey Jr. Shot 3 Weeks, Rewrote Scenes and Directed His Scenes
54:25 More Details on Doctor Doom's Team for Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars
1:04:13 Spidey 4 Updates: Venom, Sadie Sink, Tramell Tillman as Norman Osborne?
1:16:20 Frank Grillo Talks Crossbones's Future in MCU and Marvel Movies
1:31:45 James Gunn Retcons Peacemaker, Maxwell Lord
1:42:35 Star Wars Visions Vol 3 Update, Katee Sackhoff Talks Mandalorian S3 Struggles
1:50:38 Streamlabs and Superchat Questions

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, what's up, everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode
of the Truth here on a Sunday morning, Sunday morning,
Sunday morning, coming down.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
For you, Johnny Cash fans.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I am here still adjusting myself. I gotta tell you something, man.
You know, when you get to me a certain age,
you're just like, fuck it. I'm just gonna come on
here and feel how I feel, talk about what I
want to talk about, act how I want to act,
because I DGAF and that's kind of like where I'm
at this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The Lady Outlaw is out of the house.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
She went to visit her sister today, that brunch with
her and some family members. So I thought, well, this
would be a perfect time to go live for a
few hours on The Truth, a brand new episode of
The Truth. Those of you who've been watching my channel religiously,
you know that this is a show I do or
I try. I was announced and was going to do

(01:03):
every Sunday, but things got a little walkie over the
last few weeks and I haven't been able to necessarily
jump on and do a show, and so I'm gonna
try to be more consistent with it, for sure. And
today is another example of me being consistent with it.
And also because earlier this week, I lost control of

(01:24):
my channel to YouTube for about two days, almost two days,
and we didn't get a new Hot Mic episode on
the channel. I eventually did put it on the channel
as a pre recorded video dowlowing it off Christian Harlow stream,
who's very kind, very kind to give us a platform
to be on his channel, and then also missed out

(01:45):
on a Geek Buddies episode, so we've had to push
things back. That's the thing about Geek Buddies. Man. Michael
and Shannon are so busy, you know, Shannon working at
Universal but also working on projects and writing, Michael as
well show running and working for his new job there
doing the VR stuff. Like, there's a lot that goes on.
So when we schedule a time, it really is in
a narrow window of time where the three of us

(02:08):
can get together because I'm also busy doing a bunch
of shows and other things other than the Outlaw Nation,
Cinephiles as Christian Harlow show, other responsibilities I have here
in this relationship that I have in my house, and
so there's a lot of things. So when we schedule
a time, it really is like the time we can
do it. So now, unfortunately, we're gonna probably have to

(02:28):
wait till Monday at some point to do our Peacemaker
review and talk about some other stuff that have gone
on that's gone on in the world of entertainment. But
I just thought I'd go live today to try to
make up some of the views and some of that
revenue that we missed out on over the last two
days here on the channel, because you know, this is

(02:49):
my part of my livelihood is the channel. We had
a really great month last month, and so I'm hoping
to keep that momentum going and of course going down
for two days and some of you may think, oh,
it's not a big deal two days, but two days
messes with your numbers, messes with your algorithm, messes with
what you can make, especially the hot mic going live.

(03:10):
I mean, all those super chats went right to Christian
Harloff and we'll see what we end up, you know,
parsing out and deciding on the amounts. Because remember, if
you don't know about a YouTube channel, like once the
super chats come through, it takes like almost a month
for them to actually get logged in and then you
only get fifty percent of that, and so and then
we have to figure out like you know, as a

(03:31):
thank you to Christian. So there's all kinds of stuff
that goes on with this. So it was a bunch
of drama really, And listen, people are suffering through way
worse in the world. In no way am I trying
to be like poor me, oh please, you know, It's
more just a matter of like, this is my situation,
this is what happened, and this is what's gone down
this week. So it's been a bit of a stressful week.
And yesterday, as some of you who follow me on

(03:54):
my social media now corrected on the graphic at theocas
says on all platforms some mean following me on social media,
you saw that I had a great day yesterday hanging
out at the book fair, the San Diego book Fair
with the Lady Outlaw. This was the first ever book
fair put on by the local public television station KPBS.
I support public broadcasting. I support PBS and all cities

(04:18):
I've been in, I love PBS.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's such an essential thing.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So we went there to show support to authors and
to writers and to booksellers, and also to KPBS. So
we were there to do both to all of those
things at once, and we had a really great time.
It was nice. The sun was out Typical San Diego
day for those who don't know about San Diego. Really
nice San Diego day. Just a little bit of a

(04:42):
breeze coming off the water, but still hot as hell
right now. But it was great. Met a bunch of
fun new authors. She got to talk with a couple
authors to who write books about overcoming certain things and
how to achieve new things because Lady Outlaw is aspiring
to achieve more things in her life and I'm, you know,
supporting her in every way that I can. And you know,

(05:03):
it was great to see her having conversations with these
people and giving some tips, and of course I'll pick
up some tips if they apply to my stuff going
on in my life as well. Also picked up the
Project Hail Mary paperback which was there, And yeah, I
could have got to cheap on Amazon, but it's about
supporting these places that offer books and these writers and authors.
I picked up a couple of new books that I'm
excited to take a look at. One of it is

(05:24):
a Native American horror book. I should have brought them
in from the from the other room, but a Native
American horror book. And then there's a book about it
was a fiction about that said in the future that
just the log line or what the description of the
of the book looked really interesting, so I picked that
up as well. I also got the one that James
Cameron is doing. I think it's called The Afters or

(05:45):
whatever it's called. I picked that one up, but again
could have got to cheap on Amazon, but it was
only like three dollars more there, so I just bought
it there to show support. And I can't wait to
dive into that because that looks really cool. And I
can't remember what else I got another book, but a
really funny interaction I had for those of you who
know a little bit about sports. We ran into a
couple of authors who were there. Because it was great,

(06:07):
it was set up. It was all on the campus
of the UCSD University of California, San Diego.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
It was great, like it was so perfectly.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Set up like a quad and you just stayed outside,
walked in all these places. They also had areas. They
have food trucks, areas you can walk into and get
some air conditioning, a little break from the heat and
what have you. But they had these tables set up
kind of like an artist alley at a comic con,
or at a comic con in general.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
They had these tables set up in this one.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Area called the Writer's Block, where people walked in and
you could talk to these authors and they were selling
their books. It was fascinating, with so much stuff military stuff,
fiction stuff, nonfiction stuff, history stuff, self help stuff, sci fi,
fantasy stuff. The horror Club that apparently there's a big
horror club in San Diego where horror writers get together

(06:55):
and share share each other's work, which I thought was
really cool to see a community.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And then we ran into these guys who sell these.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Unique mystery novels. And one of the guys it was
really great.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I wishuld remember his name.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
He sells a book where Bill Walton is solving crimes
with his broadcasting partner Dave Pash. Now, for me and
for those of you who may remember Bill Walton as
a broadcaster, of course Bill Walton as a player as well,
and Dave Pash, I think this is it was genius
and I gotta had We had a lot of fun
imitating Bill Walt doing him well Walton lines as we

(07:30):
talked about it, but he was such a great guy,
uh and I was excited to talk with him about it.
And then sitting next to him was a guy who
wrote a mystery, who's written two books where Noel Gallagher
and Liam Gallagher solve crimes. That's right, the Oasis guys
are solving crimes. Bill the Bill Walton books, they're solving
crimes at the PAC twelve tournament, and I think with

(07:52):
the with the Gallagher people, they're solving crimes there in Britain.
So just fascinating stuff to see that kind of But
I had a great time talking with those guys and
just the inspiration they had to write that. And I
was thinking to myself, like, you know, it might not
be something, it might be something to explore down the road.
You know, We've had Ken Knapsock, Kalinowski, Brad Gilmore, Jason Inman,
quite a number of my friends have written books. So

(08:13):
the idea of writing a fictional book as opposed to
a historical book or a fact based book like those
guys have written, I think could be fun, especially if
you can pick like someone like Bill Walton or Noel
Gallagher and Liam Gallagher to be the people who are
solving crimes. There's a unique funness to that that I
think would appeal to me. So yeah, it sounds great.
They're on Amazon and if you want to look it up,

(08:36):
you can look and there was even I see this,
Yasmin says Brokay, if you want to read a Western horror,
I will read The Hunger. It's fictional horror retailing of
the Daughter Party. Okay, great suggestion, thank you, mister Yasman,
because I saw one where they had a pirate Western
which where like people forget, there were pirates on the
seas during the time of the historical time of Westerns,
that Westerns are based in that historical time in our country.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So I thought that was fascinating as well.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It should have spent more time talking with them and
getting more into their book.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
But there was so much.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So it was a nice brick and it was a
nice relaxing time to hang out there because this week
has been nuts. I don't know if you guys aside
from the channel. Aside from the Channel, I had no
idea that my little conversation with Christian Harloff on his
show on Monday was going to blow up the way

(09:27):
it did in terms of the comments and reactions to
what I said about what happened there on the set
of Avengers Doomsday. I had no idea it was going
to be this, you know, big thing. Yeah, And look,
I'm not a scooper. I'm I don't you know, I'm
not a person who breaks scoops. I don't go I

(09:47):
don't have I don't go hunting around. But I do
have friends and contacts who work in the business, who
are in the business. You guys have seen my friends.
They are they've been exactatives, they are writers, they've been actors, directors.
You know, there's quite a number of friends I have
in the business, and people just see me as this

(10:09):
guy who goes on shows and has opinions on stuff,
and don't think about the fact that I have quite
a few friends who are in this business and high
up in this business, by the way, executives, friends that
I know, and they will occasionally reach out to me
and toss me stuff, or they'll occasionally talk to me

(10:29):
about stuff that they hear, and I go on the
relationship that I have with them and the trust that
I have with them, and then I also have occasional
sources who reach out to me who work on sets
and verified to be working on sets, and they hand
me stuff. And then of course Jeff gets stuff all
the time as well. And Jeff is the one who's

(10:51):
been breaking a lot of the Avengers Doomsday stuff that
you guys have heard, the Robert Downey Junior stuff, the
other stuff that's going on. He knew about that story
as well. Obviously we talked about it on the show.
And you know, Daniel rpquay, My time to shine, Hello,
Cosmic Circus, Nexus Point News. Even though they want to

(11:12):
fight with me over the Hulk Punisher stuff, they all
break stuff and a lot of the times they're telling
the truth. I'll tell you a story from an executive
friend of mine who was on a boat trip with
Lord and Miller, and Lord and Miller revealed to them
during the height of everything that was going down with
Kathleen Kennedy, Lord and Miller said to them, like, I

(11:35):
can't believe how accurate some of these scoop people are
about the stuff that's going on between us and Kathy
Kathleen Kennedy, Like, I don't know how they get their
hands on the interactions that we have, but they were
accurate eighty to ninety percent of the time about the
stuff that they were reporting. So that tells you there,
and I know it's for one section of the.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Scoop hating crew.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It is to say like, oh, these people don't know
what they're talking about as they sit there in their
homes in front of their computers with literally no sources,
no context, no knowledge of anything other than what they're
being spoon fed by the Trades, which is run by
Penske Media, who is who is invested in maintaining a
strong relationship with the studio so they can have those

(12:20):
people on to be interviewed and all of that and
get invited to premieres and red carpets and all of
that kind of shit. So you have people who who
want to denigrate it, and I had some people come out.
So people have sent me stuff, and I've seen some
stuff over the last week on TikTok, even like today,
I responded to this woman who's on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I have no idea who she is, but her.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Comments on what she said I said or what she
said the story was implying I had to comment on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And say to her she's completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I commented on a couple of People's hosts about this
whole situation. So it's a little bit of madness this
week because the story itself took on a whole new
life without my control or without my awareness of it
until later on in the week, and then it became
like just super overwhelming and everybody chiming in and people

(13:12):
who don't like me bringing out their access is to
do their access to grind grind them on me, which
I listen.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't care about that shit anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I remember in the years past when I was on YouTube,
like I would get upset or I'd go toe to toe.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I really don't care about that shit anymore.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'm very comfortable and confident in what I'm building here,
and yet it's not one hundred thousand views subscribers. But
you know what, I enjoy what I'm doing. I'm going
at the base I want to go with. As I've
told you guys many, many times, there's people who've been
really great to help me out with new graphics and
new videos as you see here on the screen and
on as we've made the change to the John Rocca Channel.

(13:49):
Really awesome guys helping me with the shorts doing shorts
on the channel. So you know, people care, people care about.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
The things I do.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
People care about the stuff I do, and those are
the people I want to focus on as I I
spend more time here on the channel. I don't want
to just and I don't want to get into battles
on the channel with people. I hate me. If you
want to hate me, if that's the word you want
to use, I don't care if you want. If you
want to question, that's fine too. That's your right. You
can question. I question other people. I question sources. I

(14:17):
question people's opinions on things, or they're they're breaking scoops.
So why shouldn't I be questioned. So I'm not hung
up on all that. You know, I'm not trying to
prove to you guys. He you know, PAULI, I'm I'm
telling you that, No, I know what the truth is
to me. I know what I heard and I know
what I said. Uh. And so this is the whole thing.
And by the way, I have the story verified. If

(14:38):
I two other uh not two other A few other
scoopers who reached out to me in DMS in personal
ways and said, yeah, we'd heard the same thing, and
they mentioned the people before I mentioned the people. So
people know this story. If people I was just the
first one to maybe talk Oh, we were just the
first people to maybe talk about it on the Hot
Mic and then on Christian Oilove Show a little bit more.

(14:59):
But people know the names, people know who's involved. It's
just that there's a a thing of like, I don't
think people want to say the names. I don't want
to say names because it wasn't my story. It was
someone who passed it on to me, and so it's
not my place to say the names. If the store
had been broken to me, like with with the Hulk,
Ants and and Punisher coming to that was different. I

(15:20):
got that verified by singular source or a couple of sources.
Actually the person give to me. Then I verified it,
and then I could say it right. I could say
the character. I didn't say like two MCU characters are
coming back. I said it's going to be the Punisher
and the Hulk and so, and it was going to
be a savage Hulk, which is what i'd heard as well.
Regardless of what Nexus Point News feels about the situation.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
So I said that, and so it's different.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So but if the source had come to me and
said this is what I've heard these other people involved,
then I would have vetted it, and then I would
have decided if.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I'm going to release the name.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So I don't want to release the names, and I'm
not going to release the names, but I will shoot
down stuff that is not correct. So for some of
you may be a little bit lost about what I'm
talking about, just refresh your memory real quick.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that is that.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Earlier this week, and really a couple of weeks ago,
Jeff and I spoke about a couple of weeks ago
in the hot mic about tensions that were happening on
the set of Avengers Doomsday, and that we'd heard about
an argument that happened between two well known actors on
the set and hold on and let me see to

(16:32):
make sure. I gotta make sure this I keep forgetting
that I have to put the banner up or they
have to. Yeah, I have to promote this thing. Actually
might make it run as a ticker underneath. Maybe not
a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I have a run as a ticker, and then I'll
pin it in the chat and put it in the description. Well,
I think it's in the description already, but I'll pin
it in the chat as we're going along. But anyway,
I had, I had, Well, what did he say? Yeah,
we talked about it on that and then and then
Christian asked me about it on Monday Show. And I
just thought I was restating what we had already said

(17:10):
on the hot mic. But apparently some people, because I
know the hot mic doesn't get like one hundred thousand
views and what have you, but so some people didn't
know what we had said.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
So that's when I went in and said that.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
We'd heard or I'd heard that two people got and
two well known actors got into it on the set
of Avengers Doomsday. Apparently it was an argument. They had
to be separated, not physically, not physically. Again, I saw this.
There's no there was no physical fight between anybody on
the set.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I want to clarify that right now.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
There was no physical fight between anybody on the set
that I know of or that i've heard. All right,
I don't want to verify that because I've seen people
run with this story and add shit and create shit
for sensational purposes. Maybe they have different information or they've
heard from their sources, but I'll tell you from what
i'd heard, there was no physical battle between two people

(18:06):
on the set. It was an argument. It was a
verbal argument. Someone said something that was offensive to that person.
The person got mad about it, and they both had
a very strong back and forth an argument about it.
They had to be separated because it was getting heated.
And yes, from what I heard, one of the actors,
the aggrieved party in this situation, shall we just say

(18:28):
the aggrieved party quote unquote felt that they could not
do scenes with this other person anymore on the set
and did not want to do scenes anymore with this
person on the set. And then Marvel went to that person,
the aggrieved person, and said to them, well, we understand,
we want to respect where you're at, what you're upset about,
and we are willing to shoot around you. We'll have

(18:50):
to create let's see. I want to make sure I
say this correctly because I brought up the sources that
I have. Where is it okay? Okay? They asked to
not film any scenes with that person, to the point

(19:13):
that they Marvel and the writer had to do rewrites
to give this character their own subplot.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is a pretty big character.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Let me just say this, The aggrieved person is playing
a pretty big character. And so that was what was proposed.
But then they also said it was going to cost.
What I had heard is eighteen million. The number is
probably maybe that or maybe something else. It's irrelevant. It
was a lot of money. Basically, it was a million.
It was in the millions. Let's just leave it at that.

(19:42):
It was in the millions. So I'm not tied down
to one particular number of people. Go oh, I got
the number one. It was in the millions to reshoot
or to shoot around these scenes where they're not on
set together. And the aggrieved party, that actor said that,

(20:03):
and by actor I mean both male and female. I'm
not going to specify gender, said that, Okay, that's a
lot of money. We don't need to do that. And
apparently they were both brought together and they both made
amends and apologized and it was fine. That's basically what

(20:23):
happened on the set. Now I saw some people going well,
fights happen all the time on the set, not as
much as you think, unless you're David ol Russell, who
has a history of doing that nonsense on sets, which
I think is super toxic. But and you rarely hear
about actors fighting on Marvel sets. I don't think I
recall Maybe some of you can remind me. I don't

(20:45):
recall stories in the past where two actors were on
a Marvel set and were going at it with each other.
I mean, it's usually what you've heard is that everybody
really likes each other, they like working together with each other,
they like communicating, they stay friends, and yeah, have there
been some uncomfortable jokes in the past. That's Scarlett Johansson's expense, sure,

(21:05):
But like a true pro and in a pro environment,
she has rolled on with it. And look who's out
here making money, shining deals with Disney, suing Disney and
winning and making her money and living a happy life.
Scarlett Johansson. So you know, there's sometimes being the bigger
person is a good thing, you know. And the way

(21:25):
to be the bigger person is not to say negative
things about the other person. The way to be the
bigger person is just to say.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Like, you know what, I get it.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Just roll with it and move on and have a
bigger idea of what you're going to do, you know,
and certainly she's she's done that, and I think Scarlett.
If you watch her most recent interview with Vanity Fair,
where she's going through the role she's played in the past,
it was a very fun video to watch. If you
guys haven't seen that, I love her now. I wasn't

(21:54):
always the big, biggest fan of her as an actress.
At the start, I thought there was a lot of
indifference to her performance in Ghost World and in The
Horse Whisper and even in the first Avengers movie.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I wasn't one hundred percent down.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
But I think as she's grown as a woman, I
found myself enjoying her performance is so much more. There's
more layers, more complexity. It's especially a marriage story. There's
a lot she's grown into becoming a really strong It's
like it's like watching an athlete. Right at the beginning,
there's little, some stumbles, and at home said sure, if
they can get it, they're dialed in, and then you
see how they grow as an actor. Jennifer Colley was

(22:28):
the same way for me. So I was not a
big Jennifer Colly fan. Career Opportunities, Labyrinth all that, so
I didn't care about that Requiem for a dream is
where I was like, oh shit, and then she went
on this incredible run and it's still going on this
incredible run, even in films like Noah, which I just
watched the other day for about thirty forty five minutes
on Pluto TV. She's fantastic in that film. So you

(22:51):
know the things that happened, But anyway, I'm getting sidetracked. Yeah,
So that's what we had heard. And so, like I said,
the Marvel sets aren't usually places for a lot of
toxicity and drama. Yes, there's been stuff recently, obviously because
Marvel's not doing so well. There's been a lot of
stumbles Eternals, and we heard this week that the rumors

(23:14):
are that Eternals is not even the Eternals aren't even
going to.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Show up in Secret Wars.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And then you had Kumel on Johnny on that podcast
with Mike Barriglio where he just said, basically, my life
had been mapped out for the next ten years and
we just had to wait through COVID for Eternals to
come out. But I was like book for six movies
and animated stuff in a video game and possibly popping
up a TV series and none of that happened, and
he talked about how he went into therapy for it

(23:40):
because it really destroyed him. And I can understand that.
I mean, Kumail's got a healthy ego. Let's let's be
real here. He's not some nerdy kid who's just happy
to be there. He's got a healthy ego about himself.
And so having that knock him down a bit and
put him in his place a little bit, I think
must have must have hurt him a lot to need
therapy to go through all that. So you see that

(24:01):
the Marvel machine can be a grind, and certainly we're
at the we're at the breaking point for Marvel.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I think.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
You know, yes, Fantastic four show that it still has
some legs this past weekend and it finally crossed five
hundred million, But we know it didn't want it wanted.
Marvel wanted that film to do much. But they wouldn't
have sank all the marketing budget they sank into that
movie and done all the promotion they did for that
movie and did all the special tie ins that they
did for that movie if they didn't think that movie

(24:29):
was going to make eight hundred million dollars seven to
eight hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
But it didn't.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And look, it's a good movie, so I don't fault Marvel.
I think Marvel saw the movie was like, now, they
can't deny this. This is a damn good movie. This
is going to make money. But unfortunately, for whatever reason,
whether Marvel's on a downturn, whether we've got quote unquote
superhero fatigue, or it coming at the tail end of
a very busy July with not just film stuff but

(24:55):
TV stuff, it got caught in the in the mix.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Who knows who can say, So.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
We'll see, We'll see what happens with that. All right,
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(26:08):
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Speaker 2 (26:11):
And pro wrestling and all kinds of stuff that happened.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
So anyway, with this story, I saw people run like
crazy claiming it was a physical fight, and as I said,
it was not. And the other story I heard was
that it was Robert Downey Junior and Ryan Reynolds. Well,
let me say unequivocally that it was not Ryan Reynolds
and it was not RDYJ who were involved in this.
Neither side of it was RDJ or Ryan Reynolds, neither of,

(26:37):
So they are not involved in that. I want to
say this very clearly. From what I heard, it was
not those two.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And I just want to make it clear.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
It was not those two, Not Ryan Renolds, not Robert
Downey Jr. You guys know, if you've watched my channel
to any amount over the last year, you know I
am not the biggest Ryan Reynolds guy right now because
of all this stuff that went down with Justin Baldoni
and all the stuff that went down with Car.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
With Blake Lively.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I would be the first person to be out there
banging the drum that it was Ryan Reynolds. I would
be the first person to be out there saying, see,
this is a symptom of the arrogance and the cockiness
that him and Blake Blake have the high school quarterback
and the head cheerleader, and that energy they bring to
Hollywood and all their projects.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I would be the first person banging the drum for that.
But it's not them.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
So and I can so the fact that you know
that about me, that I would be the first pursue
and I'm saying it's not Ryan, that's how Adam and
I am that it's not Ryan. You know, I'm not
trying to protect anybody. I'm not trying to keep my
sources and.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I'm not trying to shill.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I'm not trying to make sure I get access to
things like Please, I've had the hot mic for years
and I've never lost access to any screening. I've never
been asked to not go to anything. It's never been
an issue, right, It's not like a Collider where they
took me off a reaction to a trailer for the
Obama show on Netflix that they had because they felt

(28:01):
my politics was an issue.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I never had any problem with that on from the
studios since I've been down here, no matter what shows
I've done, no matter what I've said, you know. So
I just want to make that clear. I'm not trying
to protect myself. I'm not trying to I am partarying
to pract myself, but I'm not trying to make sure
I stay connected to Arty J or to Ryan Reynolds.
I mean, listen, I live in San Diego. I have
a good life. I don't need to be driving up

(28:24):
to LA all the time to have these and no,
it's it's too exhausting and it's not my life anymore.
If I live there, maybe there'd be a different approach
to it. But because I don't, there's a there's a
freedom and I don't have to be beholden to that
kind of nonsense to limit what I say about situations,
you know. So I just want to make that really
really clear. Yeah, I've been talking for like almost thirty

(28:49):
minutes straight. So that's that's the thing. And I'm not
gonna tell you it was. So if you're watching to
me to tell you who the actors are, I have
to tell I'm not going to do that because again,
it's not my full story.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was a story that was you know, uh.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Hot, Mike got it and then other people independently verified
it for me. But it wasn't like the Hulk Punisher one,
which was directly brought to me.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's a different situation.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I might have revealed the names, although I probably would
have had to have talked to a lawyer because I
don't know what it's like when you name a name
on someone that you hear about on set, and I
don't know what the particular is on that, because like
it's different when you say well, this character is doing
this or this actor is doing this versus these two
people got into it, from what I understand, because there

(29:44):
could be libel stuff, that could be slander involved in that,
and so I don't like to get involved in that.
So I would have had to have probably talked to
a lawyer, a really good lawyer first, to be like,
am I.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay to reveal the names?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
So and I see some people.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I saw some people commenting on that and getting super
upset in the in their nerd anger and their geek anger, like, well, why.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Did you say anything if you can't give us the names?
Give me the names?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Who the hell are you that you think I need
to give you the names? Get off your high horse,
Get off your your self important soapbox, sit the fuck down. Okay,
I have the information. I don't owe you a goddamn thing,
and I don't owe you.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't owe to tell you a fucking thing about anything. Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I will dole out what I want to dole out
when I want to dole it out. It's as simple
as that. For those of you who respect that, thank
you so much. I appreciate that. You know what it's
like for the small minority of you who are bitching
like you think you owed something. Get the fuck on
out of here. You do not oweed a goddamn thing. Okay,
I will tell you when I want to tell you,
or it'll break and someone else will give the names,

(30:48):
and then I'll verify it because someone else took the
bullet first. And that's how it works.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So there are certain things I don't mind revealing things on.
There are certain things I don't mind talking about, But
there are certain things that I also have to respect
sources and respect how things come to me, you know,
And that's just how it is. But any of you
out there thinking your own names, you need to get
off your high horse and take a look in the
mirror and take off your self importance hat and seeing

(31:13):
calm down.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know, you didn't get the store.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You didn't work for the store, you didn't ask for
the story, you didn't vet the store, you didn't talk
to people who gave you the story.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You didn't do any of that.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
So why do you deserve to get the names when
you want the names? Fuck off? That's not how it works.
So I just want to make that clear. To anybody
who's been complaining about it. Right for everybody else, which
is ninety five percent of you, Thanks for respecting the
fact that I won't reveal the names and won't reveal
the sources, because that's how I work. It's not a
direct thing now what I have heard, though, Yes, and Scott,

(31:47):
you're right, it is still also, to be fair, it
is still a big story even without the names.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
It is.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It is absolutely. I had no idea. Scott. You're not
a fan. You're kind of a mean dick when you
come on here, so I don't consider you a fan.
So you can leave any time you want, Buddy, You
leave nothing but negative comments, so feel free to take
on off. Yeah, it's fair. It's much more fun to speculate.

(32:13):
I can't wait since me. Yeah, right, absolutely, Tracy. So
that's what we do as nerds. We love to speculate.
We love to who could it be?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
And when I hear stories and the scoopers don't want
to reel the names, I always got it.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Who could it be? Who could it be?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I understand people running to RDJ and people running
to Ryan Reynolds. Those are very two strong, headstrong guys.
I saw some people mention Pedro as if Pedro has
a history of fighting with people on set. Hell, he
even got along with Gina Corno even though she was
insulting his trans sister, so you know, Pedro's not known
for getting into battles with people on set. That was

(32:47):
the weirdest name, and that to me screams I'm a
right winger. I'm going after the most most leftist guy
on the set. I'm going to try to paint him
as a negative person because that's my warped mindset. So
I think that's where it's behind the Pedro stuff. But no,
was not I'll say that as well. It was not
Bedro Pascal. That was not the name I heard either,
And if I'd heard that name, I'd have been really sad.

(33:08):
But because I love Pedro so much, I don't want
him involved with any of this kind of.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Drama and bullshit.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
But I will say this, I think what happened, from
what I heard happened, was a valid, a valid disagreement.
I think it was a valid thing to be upset about,
and I think it was a valid situation for Marvel
to be like, Okay, we need to make some changes.
We need to make some adjustments. We need to rewrite
some things. So I think that's totally I thought it

(33:36):
was totally fair when I heard the full story. I
thought it was totally fair for this person to make
that request. And I think it's and I'll say this,
and some of you may now here comes the ecquisitions
of shilling that I know is going to come after
I say this, But I think, look, look at this.
Is it too narrow it down? Is it too men?
Is it a male and a female? I mean, like

(34:00):
amateur detectives over here, start your own true crime podcasts
and then and then come find out. Uh wow, shit,
I lost my train of thought.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
What was I saying?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh yeah, so what I'll say this and people accuse
me of being a shilling? I guess now in this
situation is I think I think Marvel being willing to
make adjustments. I think that speaks volumes about the company.
And I think, you, you know, for all the hits
that Marvel takes, and all the punches, and some some warranted,
some not so warranted, some with agendas, you know what

(34:30):
I mean? I think them being willing to work around
this person to make them comfortable. I think speaks volumes
about the company and that they do care about their actors,
they do care about the things that go down. They
want this set to be a positive set. Unfortunately, there's
a lot of stuff happening that not just me, but
other people are hearing about. You see reported in a

(34:53):
number of areas about what's going down on that set,
how tense the set is, how many egos are involved,
the fact that that they're still writing stuff. Daniel Rpka
reported that they're still writing stuff, like most of from
what I hear here, let's bring because I made notes
today to make sure I say the right things. But
from what I hear is that a majority of where

(35:17):
is it uh.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Where I had it here in just a second ago.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Okay, So from what I hear, most of the cast
already finished filming, but that's only because they're going to
call them back later for reshoots after they write more scenes.
That's what I'm hearing from a very credible source of mine,
is that they most of the cast already finished film,
which I think Daniel Rpka said that as well, that
they already finished filming, but that's only because they're going

(35:49):
to call them back later for reshoots after they write
more scenes. Now we're going to get into a little
bit of tea here, and I know this is not
spilled the tekila. We're gonna get into a little bit
of tea here that that might that is that feels
like the truth for me. Yeah, So what I hear

(36:13):
from the situation with Robert Downey Jr. Now, Jeff reported this,
I think last week on the Hot Mic, Jeff talked
about how RDJ shot like three weeks of scenes not
in the costume, the Doctor Doom costume, and that his
body double was wearing the costume and acting opposite the

(36:34):
other actors. That's what Jeff had heard. Uh, And that
Robert Downey Jr. Was reading the lines off camera. That's
what they That's what Jeff had heard. Right now, I
have a little bit more on that from my source.
Uh where is that? Okay? So apparently they used a

(36:59):
scene mask for a while because the suit and mask
didn't feel good on him. That was the reason why
he didn't. He wasn't shooting the scenes as Doctor Doom
wearing the mask and all of that is because that
he felt that it didn't feel.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Good on him.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
That's what my sources say, and that they used it
for a while, so it didn't feel good on him.
He didn't want to wear it, and then changed his
mind months later, and they have to reshoot all the scenes.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
And apparently this is what's being reported to me from
my source.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Remember this is a source, so you know it's not
me saying this source saying this that apparently Bob Eiger
didn't like the Doom scenes that they had filmed and
had them reshoot all the scenes with RDJ on camera,
and apparently he shadow directed the scenes and rewrote his
own scenes as well. This is the extra stuff I'm

(37:55):
hearing about RDJ behind the scenes, that he rewrote his
own scene, he shadow directed the film the scenes of
that he's in, and that Iiger didn't like the Doom
scenes they had shot when Downey wasn't in the costume
and whatever. So that is something that i'd heard this
week that was pretty big. So that to me is

(38:18):
a surprising situation. But you know, I don't know. But again,
like Artij is one of these guys that we just love,
right and we love his story. We love how he
came back, we love how he overcame all the things
that he overcame. And yes, I do also agree that
the people who complain about other actors who are not
Arty J and have troubling things in their past aren't

(38:39):
forgiven as readily as Arty J was. And yeah, maybe
because he's white. It may just be because we like him.
There could be a myriad of reasons of why Artie
Jane's Arty J seems to always get a pass no
matter what he does.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Right, people just there are just people. You guys know this.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
There are just people in life that you know that
pull off some of the most insane shit in your
group of friends. But your friends always seem to forgive them.
Your friends always seem to kind of see that that
they're they're these troubled souls that need help and need
assistance and whatever. So but artiej is a power player
obviously him and his wife. His wife is amazing, What

(39:14):
an amazing woman she's been in his life and as
a producer and as a Hollywood entity, she is not
someone to mess with. But I have I want to
lean in this direction that Artij is older now. His body,
you know, he's put his body through a lot with
the drug use and what have you. And if this
stuff was irritating him, was frustrating him, was too much

(39:36):
to wear all of that. Then, I think there's a
there's validity in him feeling like I need to take
a little bit of a of a break somehow physically,
because I'm shooting two movies back to back, and some
of you are like, wow, they're sitting in trailers and
blah blah blah. If you've never been on a film set,
you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. A

(39:57):
film set can be quite draining. I've been on three
film sets that could be quite fucking draining. But on
TV sets, they hurry up and wait the long hours
that you can shoot, especially on something like this, the
demands And then as Daniel Rpka keeps reporting and other
people keep reporting the rewriting of scenes or the not

(40:20):
finished script. And I love how Kevin Figi's out here going, well,
we're just plussing it.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
We're just plussing it.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
You can't plus something if it's if it doesn't exist,
it's not how it works. You have to create the.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
First foundation, then you can plus the foundation.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
If you're bringing people back to write scenes from scratch,
there's no plussing going on you're rewriting or you're writing
new scenes. That's different. You know.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Plusing is meant to add on to something that already exists.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's how you plus so and saying, well, there was
some scenes written, so we're adding new scenes. So those
are that's plusing. The script is you're adding scenes. I
guess technically you're correct, but not really in the spirit
of how that's that term is intended to be used.
So I think it's probably just that that you know,

(41:09):
he's older. It's exhausting, and I know Liam Neeson and
all of that, but it's not everybody is the same,
and not everyone is the same, because I don't want
to believe that this is like arrogant, rich, lazy actor shit.
I really don't. And look, I know down it can
be a bit of a prima donna. I know that
from people I've spoken to and people who've worked with him.
But it's not in a way that he's like trying

(41:31):
to lord it over people. It's more that he's a finicky,
peculiar particular rather but not peculiar particular kind of guy.
And that's okay, that's that's part of why he's successful,
you know. So I want to believe that. But you
guys know this, if you've got any knowledge and history
of Hollywood, when people how can I say this, When

(41:55):
people start to achieve a lot of power in Hollywood
would and they start to become more important than the project,
and that starts to feel like the predominant energy on
a set that can be really dangerous for the overall result. Look,
the film may still come out and be amazing. There's

(42:16):
there's all kinds of evidence to say that it's going
to work. I saw some people. I saw someone comment, look,
I know there have been stories about Drop. All I
know is that the Russo brothers are cooking and they're
making and this person has you know, I what knowledge that.
I don't think. I don't know this person at all,
and I don't know what they were saying and why
they were saying this stuff they were saying. But it

(42:36):
was like, oh, I just know the Russo brothers do that,
So I get it. People want to people want to
cape for the Russo's cape for Marvel. I think it's fair.
I think it's totally fair. You know, ife, youp want
to believe what they want to believe, and I think
that's absolutely fair. It's a free country, it's free world.
Well some please, So for me, I look at the
situation and I just go, well, this feels like there's

(42:56):
a lot of me, me, me energy on the set
and not a lot of we we we energy on
the set. Or to condense it, it's not me, it's
it's no longer we as it was in the past.
It's now me. And I think when actors go into Memode,
and when directors go into Memode, or writers or executives

(43:20):
or creative teams go into Memode, or members of the credati,
it's because they sense there's trouble on this set, and
because they sense that there's not a strong leadership happening
right now, or they sense that the brand is damaged
or in trouble right There's a great line in The
Godfather where Salazzo says to Hagen after he's kidnapped him,

(43:41):
the Godfather is slipping, tom, could I've gotten to him
like this ten years ago?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And that's how you got to look at Marvel.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Marvel is Vito Corleoni in the movie after he gets
shot by those guys, by Salazzo's guys as he's getting oranges.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
From the from the green grocer there with.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
A Fredo, And who's Fredo? Are the people still defending
Marvel Fredo? Like, I don't know who's Fredo in this scenario,
but somebody is Fredo. Somebody is Fredo who cannot pull
the trigger and stop what's happening to the Godfather in
time and just breaks down crying, yelling Papa in the scene.

(44:20):
So that's the way I look at this whole situation.
Oh and by the way, we're at four hundred and
sixty people joining us right now. Thank you so much.
How many one super jet? Almost five hundred of you.
I'm dropping new information here about what's going on behind
the set, and I got one super jet. I want

(44:41):
to think that it's because you guys are just engrossed
in what I'm saying in the story I'm saying. But
I'd love you to send some support here, some questions, thoughts,
and comments for what I'm doling out here for you all,
especially to make up for the revenue I lost on
geek Buddies and Hot Mike and not going live this week.
Would love that, But yes, but I I'm very happy
that almost five hundred you were joining me live I

(45:02):
did not anticipate that many coming on here this morning,
So thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I appreciate you all madly.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
But yeah, no, uh I you don't know stream lives
and super chats all the way to go to send
stuff in.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
So please feel free to do that.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
But anyway, it just feels to me like this is
a wounded brand night right now. And you look, you
can't even go Spider Man Brand New day because that's
half Sony, that's half Sony, that's not fully Marvel.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And so.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Doomsday and Secret Wars are the next films that are
going to come out that are fully marbled, you know,
and yes, Spider Man will be in them, but they're
fully marble. And so to hear that there's already tension
on the set, and that there's a lot of examples
of tension on the set, I think is a is
a frustrating situation. And when you hear about the stuff

(45:51):
going on behind the scenes, like the fight I mentioned,
like RDJ not wearing the costume and costing them three
weeks of extra reshoots, like scenes not being like actors
like Alan Cumming and Rebecca remains Samo saying that they
don't know if they're done filming because the script isn't
finished yet. Those are not good indicators that everything's going well.

(46:14):
But again, it could all turn out fine. You know,
we saw that in Superman. There was a lot of
drama about cuts and about storylines being dumped, about the
length of the film being shortened, about the episodic nature
of the film being changed. We heard stuff like oh,
monkey's typing on computers and all of this, and then

(46:35):
the film came out and became a pop culture hit. Yes,
it's not going to cross Man of Steel, not gonna
pass Man of Steel comparatively, but it was the hit
that DC needed. It was just enough of a hit
that DC needed despite all the drama, and majority of
people like the movie, regardless of all the behind the

(46:56):
scenes stuff that went on. So you know, you don't
know what this kind of stuff, but yeah, it feels like,
uh yeah, see I like this. Trymke says, what is
Trima says, I've done sound for a small production company
in the most stressful days for me were when the
actor was ill prepared and didn't have their lines memorized,

(47:17):
or the director wasn't making decisions. Yeah, you know, when
I did acting and I know a lot of people
who hate me in this space like to say I'm
a failed actor, and I totally I am. I didn't succeed,
so yes, as I don't know what you all who
criticized me succeeded at in life. But yeah, I did
not achieve the success as an actor that I would like.
But you know, I did what I did. I was
able to be in shows and movies and do voiceovers

(47:40):
for a number of products, so you know, I had
my own nice little move for a while there. For
five years, I was able to support myself as an actor,
and I think that was a really fun time. But
one of the things I was always afraid of on
set was being ill prepared, was not having my lines memorized.
And then one of the things I edit on set

(48:00):
is when I sensed a director not being decisive. So TRYMEXX.
You're absolutely right. I mean, you need to have everybody
on the same page. It doesn't mean that there isn't
room for improv or adjustments or you know, rewritten scenes
or reshooting scenes. Of course, there's always room for that

(48:22):
because you discover things. It's an if you have a
set that works correctly, it's an interactive process where everybody
is exchanging ideas. There is a healthy goal to make
the best product possible, not to make the best product
that highlights me possible.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
And that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
And I think Marvel before Endgame or up to Endgame,
was about figuring things out and working together as a
unit to create something amazing. And I think they I
think the universe and karma and the energy of the
universe rewarded them by having an Infinity War and an
endgame that hit the landing like gang Bus. But I

(49:01):
think what's happened for a number of reasons. And I
know some people have said DEI. Some people have said
female LEDs. Some people have said you know, people like
me have said they haven't brought on the strongest writers,
the strongest directors. They haven't. They didn't have as strong
of a vision, they weren't able to pivot as strongly,
and the actors they brought in weren't as strong as
the actors they had before to be the foundation of

(49:24):
what they wanted to do. And then they were clumsy
in how they introduced some of these actors and some
of these storylines. And so you see that and go okay,
that's that's a situation there, that's a that's a that's
a problem. And so that's what we have now with
with Avengers Doom standing with Marvel. So yeah, it's going
to be crazy because there's probably there's more. I mean,

(49:47):
I hear from quite a number of the contacts I
have and the sources I have that it's a mess
behind the scenes. And I think it's a mess behind
the scenes because they've done absolutely nothing to provide an
for us leading into Secret Wars or Doomsday. Literally nothing
except for maybe Fantastic four as kind of a tease, right,

(50:07):
But they haven't done that much, and it's been a
stumble start, stumble start, fumble, fall down, get back up,
try to do better, not getting that much attention type
of situation. They're at Marvel behind the scenes, and so
I am not cheering for them to fail, right, But
I am going to talk about the things that are
going on behind the scenes because that's the stuff people

(50:29):
want to know about it, and I'm interested in what
is happening here. And again, it doesn't mean that I'm
rooting against the film. Doesn't mean that I'm trying to
undercut the movie. As I saw a couple of people
accuse me of doing like wanting to destroy the stuff
and so, and look again, I want to.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Make this really really kill here.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
I'm not coming on here to be like you guys
need to believe me or I am telling I am
not trying to win you over or have you think
I'm you know, telling the truth or what like.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I don't care if you believe me or not.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I know what I've heard, and I know and I
stand by what I've heard, and I stand by the
people who gave me this information. So you know, I
believe it or not believe it. I really it matters
nothing to me. I'm going to go have lunch after
this is over, hang out with a lady outlaw, and
get on with them today.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It's not going to bother me.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Whether you believe me or not, or whether you like
me or not, or hate me or not. Really, it's
so irrelevant. I can't even tell you how irrelevant. And
so you know your right to believe or you're free
to believe whatever the hell you want.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
That's what I'll say on that end.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But yeah, this kind of stuff is just for me
unsettling to see happening. And you hope that it turns
out well, because you do want more because Marvel has
brought us so much joy over the years, Like right,
since two thousand and eight, we've really enjoyed. So I mean, right,
this is when my career made the changes in twenty

(51:49):
fifteen from what I was.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
But even before.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I made the change into being a pundit in twenty
fifteen and a critic, I was into all of this stuff.
I was reading all the magazines. I was watching some
of the YouTube videos.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I was reading the.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Articles and the breakdowns and the analysis and the columns.
I was into all of this stuff. So it's always
been something I'm interested in, and so this is an
extension of that.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
And I love it for that, you know. And so
there you go.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'm gonna take a king sport. Calvin says. The show
is called The Truth. I shouldn't believe you know. The
truth is I don't care if you believe me. That's
the truth, because I'm telling you the truth. But I
don't care if you believe me, which is another truth.
So there you go, Calvin. I hope, I hope I

(52:41):
cleared it up for you, buddy, book, But thank you
for the ball bust. But here. Let me let me
take a Let me give me one second, because I
left my notes in the other room. I made other
notes that I want to talk about, and I didn't
share it with myself on words. So I'll give me, like,
I don't know, twenty seconds. I'll be right back. I'll

(53:01):
be right back. Maybe maybe ten fifty.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Okay, all right, I'm not smart enough.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You have to figure out how to share my word
from computer to computer. So let me say as let
me send it to myself and when I bring it
up here, I can read off of it. So and

(53:56):
I had pictures to put up. But you know, I'm
at this. I'm this is like, you know, my fucking
hangout show, you know, So feel free to be upset.
It's going to make it a bear to do time
codes later.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Maybe I could just put zero to fifty five, uh,
talking about adventures doomsday. But that's the way it goes sometimes,
all right, So let me see what else I've got
here about avengers, doomsday, souse. I want to make sure
I have my notes up to fully give you the

(54:33):
fool Okay, all right, all right, so let's keep talking
about Artie J.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Maybe that's all breaking up Artie J.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Everything before that, RDYJ and after previous so the Doom
Doom getting an ally. Previous rumors have claimed that Doom
will have a team of his own and Doomsday lead
concept art, though the Russo's denied that concept art. It
was the actual thing, but it showed the It showed
Doom alongside several other characters, including Doctor Strange and on

(55:01):
this week's past episode of the Hot Mic, which is
on my channel now it is it is also on
Christian channel, but it's on my channel as well.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I put it up as a prerecorded video.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yesterday, Sneyder said he heard that Benedict Cumberbatch's former sources
Supreme will quote be working with Doctor Doom and Avengers Doomsday.
I'm not surprised by this, and I said this on
the show that I'm not surprised by this because I
think that's absolutely true that I think another reason they
convinced Robert Downe and to come back was that it

(55:31):
wasn't just going to be a villain role and he
was going to be like a Thanos type of well
not Danels, I guess, because that makes it more correl. Well,
just come back and be a straight villain like it
was going to be more. And they know that the
audience loves Arty j so they had to write something
where Doom has a reason for the things that he's doing,

(55:55):
and there's a reason why he's not there in the
Fantastic Four until the post credit scene. There's a reason
that Laveria has an empty seat there, there's a reason
for all this kind of stuff. Now, in the past,
it's always been like the way it's written in the comics,
is petty jealousy, right, or a love triangle or him

(56:17):
trying to match read Richard's and things happen and he
becomes this disfigured, angry villain. But what we heard over
the last couple of weeks was that the rumor is
I think it's Daniel Rpka who broke this, that Captain
America going back to place the Sacred Stone, place the
Infinity Stones in the Sacred Timeline, the incursions that happened

(56:43):
because he decided to go and have his happy ending
with Betty.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I'm sorry Peggy, not Betty.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Peggy is the reason for.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Doom doing what he does.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
So yeah have to say to yourself, well, what does
that mean? What do the incursions cause in Doom's life
that he goes after Captain America and Doom is being
played by arti J. So what they're doing in essence,
and I think it's it might work, but I do

(57:20):
think it's a little lazy. Is they're having once again
Artij versus cap in this finale, possibly between between the two.
And I think this is a dangerous line line to
walk because a you're not turning Doom into a straight villain,
which a lot of the people might be upset about.

(57:43):
You're going to make him someone that people like, and
I don't mean like Darth Vader, where later in life
people like Darth Vader and later as Darth Vader's been
a pop culture icon, people have liked Darth Vader. Vader's
a pretty evil fucker. I don't care what anyone says
about Redemption on it. It's a pretty evil set of shit, Okay,
pretty selfish evil. Yes, Yes, mama died in front of

(58:04):
him and all of that stuff, and he was yanked
as a young kid. Sure, sure, but there's plenty of
people who's their mothers at young ages. There's plenty of
people get snatched away from their families who don't turn
into maniacs an evil planet killing maniacs, Okay, I just
want to make that clear. So whatever your reasons are

(58:25):
for that, he's still a pretty evil dude. So so
this is where you look at what they're trying to make.
RDI j likes someone you could cheer for now. I
don't think they anticipated kill Monger or Thanos being embraced
by the fandom in the way that they did and

(58:45):
have their logic make sense to a lot of the fandom.
I think Marvel was surprised by that. And I don't
know what they've said, like post the film's coming out,
and maybe they've read contents and all.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
We always wrote him that way.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
We wanted him to be connectable and asked questions of
the audience and all of that, but I don't believe so.
And the fact that they are intending to make Robert
Downiels Junior a connectable villain instead of having it happen organically,
I think can be quite dangerous. And the fact that
they're giving him a team of these powerful beings to

(59:18):
be a part of this and it may be, and
it may and Doctor Strange of all people, would absolutely
align with Doctor Doom if he felt the situation that
was going down with Captain America with something he needed
to address and that those incursions affected the order of
the galaxy.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
In the universe.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Right, I don't know how they're going to weave in
Loki taking control of the timelines unless Loki is gonna
align himself with Doom. Now, if you've got Doom, Loki,
and Strange, that's a hell of a threesome. Whoever you
got after that is just is just the role players
on the team. Those three are Wade Lebron and Chris Bosh.
Those three are Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman and Emmett's Those

(01:00:00):
three are the three people you need to Jaymon Green,
Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Those are the three and maybe Clay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
You'll find a Clay Thompson or something, But those three,
I mean, that would be amazing. So I think that's
going to be a fascinating thing. So, but I do
think them using this happy ending as the reason for
the film I think can be quite tricky because people

(01:00:32):
don't want to share against that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
People don't want to be like, well, Cap got selfish.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
This is what happens when you get selfish, and if
it leads to what I think it's leading to, which
is my thought, is that something happens that affects Dooms
like because if you want to make someone sympathetic, it's
because they lost something or someone that was really important
to them because of something someone else did. Right. We

(01:00:58):
see this all the time when you talk about analysis
of wars that have happened between countries or peoples for centuries.
It's because someone something happened to someone another's actions caused it,
and that becomes the revenge cycle for years and years

(01:01:18):
and decades and centuries. So it's very possible that the
incursions caused something negative to happen to Doctor Doom's life
and that is what causes him to go great because
I don't think you would get Doctor Strange on your side,
or possibly the Loki at the end of season two,
if it wasn't connected to something that they could in

(01:01:42):
the good side of themselves understand is a danger, right,
So I think that's what might be happening here on
the groundwork that they might be laying here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
This is a speculation. I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I'm just speculating on this kind of stuff. So again,
I think this is a tricky line to walk with
Robert Downey Junior. I think it's very tricky line to
get that correct and get people on board with that approach,
because it'll feel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Like they're pandering to the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
And already half the audience, I estimate half the audience
wasn't happy about RDIJ coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Thought it was lazy casting and desperate casting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And now if you add to it that you're trying
to make Artij a character of people might cheer for.
And then you add to it that you're setting up
Artie j versus Capi, or Artie javers Cris Evans again,
or Cat versus essentially Tony Stark again. I think that's
a dangerous high wire act to pull off. It doesn't
mean they won't pull it off. I just think it's

(01:02:39):
a dangerous high wire act to pull off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
What else?

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Okay, Yeah, we talked about the script.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
We talked about all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Oh and my other my source also tells me that
part of the Marvel thing is that there's no X
Men casting until the fall or quarter one of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Twenty twenty six Q one. Let's say Q one of
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Six, so that's when we're going to see probably some
casting announcements, is the fall or early twenty twenty six.
But this source also said that Snyder was right that
the big talent agencies are already having conversations with Marvel
about potential actors for this. So all the rumors we've

(01:03:30):
been hearing, speculation you've been seeing from other people online,
there is validity to it because there are conversations happening,
there are actors' schedules being considered, there are doors being
opened for so these roles to be cast. So we

(01:03:51):
will see when we get some information.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
On that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Okay, And I think that's all the Avengers doomsday stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
My god, an hour, I've been on an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
There's gonna be a long one. I guess this is
gonna be a long one. I'm just letting you all know.
All right, let's want a Spider Man Brand New Day.
Somebody give me a time code of that one four
to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Spider Man Brand New Day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
There's been a lot of speculation around Spider Man Brand
New Day. We've seen the videos that have come out
of them swinging, and we saw this week Dustin Daniel
Crettin and Tom Holland talking about the posing and all
that they do with Spider Man. But Venom has entered
the room, Ladies and gentlemen. Venom has entered the room

(01:04:40):
this week, and a lot of people are speculating about
Venom's role in Spider Man Brand New Day. There's been
a lot of speculation about the Venom simiote Michael Mando,
who is playing Scorpion, and of course is playing the
character of Matt Gargan, a scorpion who if you know
the comics, maybe this is slight spoiler territory. So I

(01:05:02):
don't know if some of you want to be.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I want to maybe, Yeah, go back to the beginning, Tim,
go back to the beginning, Tim.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Uh. If you guys don't want have anything spoiled for you,
uh so, uh, we can do that, like I can
say to you that there Matt Gargan, if you know
the comics, is the third iteration of Venom in the comics.

(01:05:40):
And Mac has been saying things about Venom coming back,
Venom being part of the Spider Man universe. You know,
he's kind of teasing it. And I don't know much
about Michael Mando other than breaking bad. I've seen him
as a character actor and other things and what have you,
So I don't know the level to which they want
to involve him and the stuff, and I don't know
if he's he's if Marvelus told him, Hey, you can

(01:06:03):
talk about this, this and this, don't talk about this.
But it seems like he's teasing that Venom will be
in Spider Man Brand New Day in some format, because
we know that Scorpion is in it, and we know
that Mike Gargan becomes Venom. So you can't have Tom
Hardy come back, maybe, but you could have a new

(01:06:23):
Venom come in, and this could be who Mac gargob is.
Because remember that little Symbia was left behind a little
piece of the Cymbio and my time to Shine Hello
says that the tweeted out that the alien costume will
have quote some kind of role in the next Spider
Man movie. So a lot of people thought this wasn't

(01:06:44):
going to show up till Secret Wars. But if you
know the original Secret Wars, not the first, not the
most recent Secret Wars, the original Secret Wars. The Symbio,
that's where the Cymbia was born. And I remember collecting
I still have in my collection. I think it's in
the closet. I still have my original additions of the

(01:07:05):
original Secret Wars, like first run editions of the original
Secret Wars. I have them in plastic bags and save there.
And I remember that when they got the black costume,
I thought the black costume was awesome, and then of
course you find out later that's the symbio So that's
where it was introduced. So considering the fact that the
MCU is the main timeline, it would still count that

(01:07:27):
the symbiode is introduced in Secret Wars to mirror the comics.
But it seems like what they're doing now is introducing
it possibly in Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Brand New Day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Now. I say this to lay the groundwork for this
next section of the conversation about Spider Man Brand New Day.
Sadie Sink is apparently another big talking point on this,
and of course you guys know we've talked about it
on the show. Jean Gray made a Parker, possibly Christian
hall Off, Sant Gwin Stacey, and of course other people
saying that as well. But my brother Josh over there

(01:08:01):
Den of Nerds, said what he's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Hearing, and you know, you don't want to. We don't
know how much stock you put in This is like
you don't know how much stock can put in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Things, Isaay so quote. So she's Jene Gray, but it's complicated.
Kang has made it so the six one six X
Men don't know they are the X Men. Kind of
hard to explain, but you'll see. So when you look
at all of this, and this is rumors that people
had heard before that Kang was removing the X Men

(01:08:32):
in Fantastic four from the Sacred Timeline because they pose
a threat to him. But that would mean that she
could still be playing gen Gray. But she doesn't know
she's Jean Gray because Kang is erased her memory. Now
I say Kang three times, I don't want to say

(01:08:52):
five times because it might appear I think that's five
times a Kain of me. But that to me leads
me to believe that we are are not done with
that character. I don't think people would be as upset
as Marvel thinks they might be upset if you brought
back Jonathan Majors to play this character. He went through
the court system, he did his time, and he came

(01:09:17):
out the other end. Now those the audios. The audio
the new Auditors were released a few months ago. That
is not a good look, and I in no way
am advocating for Jonathan Major's comeback, but I am saying
I would not be surprised. Other people have been speculating
that Tremel Tillman will be playing Kang. I've heard from

(01:09:39):
my sources that he is playing a villain, as other
people have also speculated that he's playing a villain. But
it's going to be a villain in multiple projects. So
I don't know necessarily that Kang is the choice, because
I think they're wrapping up King with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
If he even appears, right, I'm not saying it's a
given that he's going to appear, but if he even
appears in his recast, I don't think you continue the
King storyline past Doomsday or past the Secret Wars rather,
so I can't imagine that travel is playing King. But
this idea of the symbiote, Remember the symbio can be

(01:10:23):
a shape shifter. The symbio can become someone else, So
is Matt Gargan. The venom is Sadie Sink. The venom
is someone else's venom. Is Tom Hardy come here? So
there's a lot of questions here for me when I
look at all of this from an analytical point of view.
But if we go the Kang route, as Josh is

(01:10:44):
talking about dennon Earth, it's very possible that Sadie Sink
is playing Jen Gray, but she doesn't know she's Jeen
Gray because they've erased their memory. And this is the
easiest I would think to bring the X Men into

(01:11:04):
the Marvel universe, that they're already in the Marvel Universe
and that they've had their memories erased, so they don't
know their X Men. And remember, part of the rumor
or part of the stuff that I got the information
I got about the MCU that was with the Hulk
and Daredevil stuff was that the X Men movie was
going to come out three or four months after Secret Wars.

(01:11:26):
It was going to come out quickly after Secret Wars,
so casting not happening till later this year or maybe
early next year. Them having their memories erased, we could
hear about these characters appearing in different places and then
their memories come back to them and they become these characters. Now,

(01:11:48):
how amazing would it be if they were to come,
their memories were all restored at the same time, and
they all realized that their X Men kind of like
that a force moment in endgame, having all the X
Men just consequently be in the same position when their
memory or in the same location when their memories get restored,

(01:12:09):
they become the X Men. That could be super cool
if you make that moment work, that could be awesome.
But I think at this point, if you start to
hear young people being cast in these movies, you can
start to speculate who they might be. You know, so
she might not be Mayda a Parker, she might not
be Gwen Stacy, she might be Geene Gray, she might

(01:12:34):
be in a number of things we will see. But
I mean, for me, I got really jazzed in my
nerd And you know, this is what we do with
our crew. We get together, we get we start speculating
over food at the food court or down in the basement,
or on the phone or on zoom or even on
shows like this, like what could it be? I mean,
if Sadie Sink is the venom, that would be fucking awesome.

(01:12:59):
So I think I mean Sadie Sink toe to toe
with Tom holland it could be a lot of fun.
I don't think that's what's going to happen, but it
could be really interesting, you know. So just throwing that
out there with the Spider Man stuff, let's see what
else do we have on the Spider Man stuff. We
talk about Trammel Tillman. I mean, Norman Osborne seems to

(01:13:22):
be the overall public belief and if you're talking about
what I'm hearing from theories that he's going to be
in multiple projects, Norman Osborne makes all the sense in
the world. And as we saw in Spectator, the Spider
Man animated series that came out of your friendly neighborhood
Spider Man. You know, Norman Osborne is black. So Trammel Tillman,
who is cool and can do a lot with a

(01:13:45):
little bit of screen time, as he did in the
Mission Impossible movie recently, that is a great choice for
Norman Osborne, and so I kind of lean in that
direction that he's playing it, although I don't think it's
going to be a big role in the movie because
that's already stock full of characters. And now I'm talking
about and other people speculating the addition of Venom that

(01:14:05):
as yet another character in this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
That is a lot a lot of people to be
in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
So we'll see, we'll see what happens with Spider Man
brand new day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Let me check.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Something real quick to make sure I'm not off on this.
If there's anything else that was given to me with
Spider Man. No, but I but as a follow up
to Doomsday, and I think I think was it Daniel

(01:14:40):
rp K or josh Ah Dennam Nerds who said that
they're already shooting in was it They're shooting in Steven
Peggy's house. So there you go, they're using the same set.
Some pictures were released online speculative they're you in the
same set as Steven Peggy's house. So this could be

(01:15:04):
a part of why this whole thing happens.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, all right, so let me see here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Oh okay, all right, So we will not be on
New Rock Stars this week. I just got the message
from Eric. Apparently they've had some outages. They've had some
productions happening in their office this week, and broadcast tape
podcast tapings that are all in flux. So it's looking

(01:15:38):
like a future month when we'll come into we're trying
to come in this week, so we'll have to wait
on a new rock Stars hop my crossover event.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
So, speaking of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Winch, what do you guys think about the Avengers x
Men stuff that dropped the crossover event that can have
Avengers versus x Men. I mean, I don't know, man.
I feel like seeing it in the the seeing it
in the seeing it in Doom and Secret Wars for
a few minutes could be fun. But a whole movie

(01:16:13):
based on them fighting each other, I don't know that
I necessarily want to see that. And you know who
agrees with me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Let let's get into this as a segue. Frank Grillo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Frank Grillo, of course is now starring as Rick Flagg
Senior and Peacemaker, and was in Superman as Rick Flagg
Senior of course Creach Commandos. He was interviewed by GQ
and he was talking about his time in the MC
was talking about Crossbones and talking about Marvel in general.
He said Crossbones never manifested into what it should have,
but Crossbones was cool because he wasn't a superhero. He

(01:16:43):
was just a bad mofo and he got his licks in.
And he also shared that he doesn't go a day
without someone calling Crossbones in public, which surprises him. He says,
I'm like, really, that's so fucking long ago, and it's
not that much screen time, so it is interesting that
it's becoming a legacy thing. He said he has no
interest in reprising the role, so we won't see Frank

(01:17:03):
Grillo back as Crossbones, and he claims that Marvel needs
to find a younger Crossbones. But this is what he
said about his time in the MCU. I think this
is important. He said he was happy to be part
of the MCU, revealing that he considers The Winter Soldier
to be quote the best Marvel movie, and he says
there's no ill will between him and Marvel, and he added,

(01:17:24):
I love them over at Marvel, and it's so great
to see how successful everybody's become. But I hope that
they can get back to the glory of where they
were and not just be spectacles that are there to
make a lot of money from. So I mean, he's
essentially implying that Doomsday and Secret Wars are spectacles to
make a lot of money from because there's been no
build up to those and I would have to throw

(01:17:46):
Deadpool and Wolverine in the mix as well, because that
was pretty much a spectacle movie that was not really
built up to. Although the relationship between and the obsession
with Wolverine was built up in the first two Deadpool movies,
it wasn't something that was necessarily built up through the MCU.
And how many of you still remember Emma Corn was
the villain in that movie. You know, that was a
pretty strong villain in the Marvel universe, and not a

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lot of people still remember that she was a one.
So you see that and you go, Okay, I see
what he's getting at. And he's essentially saying that when
Marvel needs to go back to building things to a result,
to building things to an explosion. Right, she's like sex.
All those films are for play till the orgasm, Infinity
Wars and Endgame. Those were the orgasms, double orgasms, for

(01:18:30):
god's sakes, congratulations. I don't think Secret Wars of Doomsday
are going to be the orgasms because they haven't built
up to them correctly. You know, It's more like it
might be a good one night stand. Both of them
might be good one night stands, but they're not going
to be the satisfyingly amazing. Well, they might not be
these satisfying I'm not gonna say they're gonna be. I'm

(01:18:52):
not gonna say they're not gonna be. Saying they might
not be these satisfying releases. JT says, why do we
always have to build the things we didn't build to
the first Star Wars for example, Well, that's different.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
That's the first thing. Star Wars was the first.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Thing, you know, when you come out with the fat
We're not in the first thing anymore. We're what thirty
something movies deep into the Marvel universe.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
It's not the first thing anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
We didn't build up to the Matrix, we didn't build
up to Iron Man, we didn't build up to any.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
So the first movies are never the build up too.
It's what you do after the first movies that were
the and Star Wars has built up for better or
worse since that first movie, the world of Star Wars.
So that's the difference there, you know. So look, I
think there's two reasons for the crossbones thing. I think

(01:19:44):
Grillo at the time wasn't really seen as this really
strong actor, let's be honest, and so he did what
he could do with the role. I think Frank's gotten
better for sure as an actor. I enjoy him in
Tulsa King. I enjoy him as Rick Flagg Senior. But
you notice he doesn't get a lot of screen time
when you watch the Supman movie. I will see how
much screen time he has in Peacemaker. But Frank, Frank

(01:20:08):
is a good actor for a certain kind of movie,
to lead a certain kind of movie, or to be
focused on or feature in a certain kind of movie.
But Frank is good in doses and Tulsa King uses
him really well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
He's there in doses, you know. And so I think
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
And so I think they saw with Crossbones that Bucky
was pretty much going to be the focus, not Crossbones,
because Crossbones is such a strong villain in the Captain
America universe that you would have had to essentially push
aside Bucky to make Crossbones a much more significant villain.

(01:20:43):
And I don't know that Marvel necessarily felt Frank was
the guy that they wanted to carry it over. And
Frank asking or saying that they need a younger Crossbones.
I think it's absolutely right. And at some point we'll see,
because we don't know what they're going to do with
Captain America. Does Chris Evans stick around? Because I mean,
I'm telling you right now, I think the Anthony Mackie
situation is done, and I don't think it's I don't

(01:21:04):
think necessarily it's Anthony Mackie's fault. I just think that
the public is not responding to his Captain America in
the way that they were hoping. I think they liked
him as cap sidekick as Falcon, and I hesitate to
use the word sidekick, as Falcon was very much his
own person. I think Mackie is a damn good actor,

(01:21:25):
and I enjoy Anthony Mackie, but I also know that
not everyone does, and clearly from the numbers of the
movie that it wasn't that strong, and Marvel feels that
way too, because they made that marketing all about the
Red Hulk and Harrison Ford. They did not make the
marketing about Anthony Mackie as Captain America, being the first

(01:21:46):
black Captain America. There was none of that in the
build up to the movie, So we'll see. I think
he's great in the interactions with Bucky. I think he's
fun in the interactions with a cap less so with Joaquin,
I think there wasn't quite as strong. So to me,

(01:22:09):
I think this is I would not be surprised that
they move on from Anthony being Captain America, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
I think they write it so that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
The character of Falcon comes back, like he realizes that
I don't want to carry the mantle of being Captain America,
and now that Chris Evans is back, I don't need
to carry the mantle of Captain America. He could be
Captain America right there, and hopefully they write a really

(01:22:42):
good dialogue about it all where he realizes that it
isn't the place for him, because if they had fleshed
out what they intended to flesh out in Brave New World,
with Isaiah Bradley calling him out as an older black
man representing America, considering the history of what Americans have
done to black people in the history of the country.
Regardless of what these knutballs like Gillian Michaels want to

(01:23:04):
cry about it at the Smithsonian. Who what she's probably
visited maybe twice in her entire fucking life. Our country
and our world has a terrible history of how we've
treated black people wherever they're from. Africa, Asia, Jamaica, Haiti,
rather Jamaica, wherever they're from. Numerous countries do not have

(01:23:27):
a strong history of treating black people well historically, and
so I think Isaiah calling him out that could have
been really poignant and really strong if Marvel had allowed
that kind of stuff to be in there. Imagine imagine
malcolmsonet Being allowed to do a Tony Gilroy version of
Brave New World like that would have been incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
And poignant and interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
And even if it hadn't succeeded at the box office,
it wouldn't have had a stink on it. Right. People
defend Thunderbolts even though it didn't do well in the
box office because it's generally a good movie and explored
something that had not been explored like mental health in
the world of comic book so or superhero movie. So
it has a special place in the world of superhero movies.
I think if you'd had a film that focused on

(01:24:11):
what it's like to be a black captain America and
talked about and I don't mean pandering stuff like you
know Tuskegee Airman moments, and I mean like really nuanced
conversation about that situation, intelligent, where you don't insult the
audience and you actually represent all points of views fairly
on the situation. I think that could have been really
fascinating and gutsy, and I think it would have made

(01:24:33):
the film stand out. Now it's a flaccid, overproduced, cut
up Frankenstein bit of a movie. Now. Did I enjoy
the movie for what it was, Yes, but I also
know that it wasn't as enjoyable as it could have been.
And the criticisms that a lot of my friends had
about the movie are valid. A lot of my colleagues

(01:24:54):
had about the movie are very valid. And the leader
stuff was just ridiculous. So have a gin Carlos Disposalo.
You have Anthony mac you have a Isaiah Bradley in
this whole thing, and you have them conversations as three
different black men in the city in this world.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I think you're fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Why not We've seen three white men have conversations like
this in the world of More. I'm not race conversations,
but conversations about difficult shit. Bucky Kappen Bucky cappin Iron
Man having a conversation about what Bucky did in Iron
Man's Parents. That's three white men having a conversation about
something one white man did under mind control. So the
conversation is about whether you can fault Bucky for what

(01:25:34):
he did or not? And are your team cap or
team iron Man. That is fascinating. You could have been
Team Isaiah or team Captain America.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
That could be fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So I think there was more they could have done
h for that situation, you know, So who knows? Yeah,
so who knows? So I think in the end it
will uh, it will be Chris Evans returning to be
Captain America. I think there's already been rumors you've heard
of Artie j coming back to play to be Doctor

(01:26:08):
Doom longer, or to play Tony Stark again. And that's
very much a possibility because if they go with a
storyline from the comics where Doctor Doom takes over people's bodies,
Doctor Doom may have may study Earth six one six,
realize the power of Tony Stark, come back as Tony

(01:26:31):
Stark body wise, and fuck with everybody. So in a way,
you kind of bring Tony Stark back to life by
having Doom possessed the Tony Stark of his universe eight
two eight or whatever it is and bring it into
six one six and really fuck with people and then

(01:26:52):
eventually Doom leaves his body or however they do it.
And that's Tony Stark back in the MCU. But it's
not our Tony Stark, but it's very much, kind of
very similar to our Tony Stark.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
So that's very possible, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
And the Evans thing, there's no way that if the
reason the incursions are happening are because Cap and Peggy
got their happy ending, there's no way Chris Evans isn't
coming back to be a significant part of Doomsday. But
really Secret Wars, there's no effing way that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
So and will he continue? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Why because what else is Chris Kevin's got going on? Look,
it was nice when he said before he left, I
want to explore new things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I want to try out new things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Shall I roll you out the box office returns of
Chris Evans' movie since he left the MCU, And don't
even bring fucking knives out into this shit because he's
part of the ensemble. You have to see the situation,
look at it because Danie Crazill lead of that movie. Yeah, Look,
and they're not good ghosted. Quite a number of these
films have not done well. So look, it was nice,

(01:27:57):
it was cool. You got to go and spread your
tic wings and try to direct and write and produce
and do all this stuff. But you clearly cannot choose
great projects for you. Yeah, Materialists did well. I guess
you can give credit that. But are you thinking of
Chris Evans and Materialist or are you thinking of Dakota
Johnson and then Pedro Pascal and then even Celine Song
before you get to Chris Evans.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
So those are.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Those things you look at, and so you go like,
you know what I see where my bread is buttered.
I'm going to go back, make a lot of money
and then occasionally do an independent film or whatever and
satisfy scratch that artistic itch, and then keep doing so.
I would not be surprised that both of them come
back and I'll see Aaron says, it's too complicated for

(01:28:42):
general especially for general audiences. It's not we fucking did
time travel and Endgame. It's not that complicated. People think, well, me,
I don't want to go back on my tweet from
the other day, but I do think. I do think
the audience can handle certain things if you present them

(01:29:04):
in a certain way. Right again, I go back to
the stupidity of Jurassic Park. There is a lot of
nuanced scientific shit they toss out in Jurassic Park. I
was watching Star Trek the Motion Picture the other day,
and there is a lot of conversations about technology and
tech and all this kind of stuff throughout Star Trek movies.
There's a lot of conversations. So audiences get it. They

(01:29:25):
get it if you present it away that's palatable. So
you've got to be able to present it away that's palatable.
So I think that's what he's talking about. So we
will see.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Oh boy, oh we got we got we got a
we got a We got a guy who's very unhappy
with his life in here. So let's just ban them
and delete their comments. Oh yeah, you have to feel
bad for people like that. I mean, what else are
they doing with this? Your life is reduced to coming
into someone else's stream and saying the most talks shit

(01:30:00):
for attention because you didn't get attention from your parents,
you didn't get attention in life from friends, family members, girlfriends, boyfriends,
what have you. And even you probably don't even have
a crew of friends to give you any attention. So
you think you'll jump on here and try to do
something funny, and you know, you just get blocked because

(01:30:21):
you're more all right, Let's see what else have we
got here? And do you guys care? I mean we're
going one of how many? Oh, she's almost five hundred
of you joining me right now an hour and a
half into the show. Let's see what else we want
to talk about. I'm getting a little tired, so I
might have to cut it in a little bit, not yet,
but in a little bit, all right. The Fantastic Four

(01:30:42):
first steps I mentioned earlier, so it's yeah, five hundred
it's done well, not well but decent. Superman six hundred million,
So I guess congrats to Superman because it became a
hit for DC.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Not a strong hit, a hit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
And I guess congrats a Fantastic Four for making more
money than Thunderbolts or Captain America Brave New World. So yes,
but neither one of those. As we said the other
day on the Hot I crossed seven hundred million dollars
and that's the first time since twenty eleven, other than
the COVID year of twenty twenty that when they, you know,

(01:31:22):
were shutting down theaters that a superhero film has not
crossed seven hundred million dollars. And I do think Superman
is a hit, but I also think it's fair to
say it's not as big of a hit as DC
was hoping it would be. So I think you have
to be fair about that. And I also think the
same thing Fantastic four. So yeah, all right, so let's

(01:31:46):
move on to DC stuff. Let's go on DC. All right,
now we've finished Marvel. That'll be the time code one thirty.
I wish you all could do time codes for me.
We'll listen, all right, DC stuff at Peacemaker or it's
already been reported that, okay, so let's talk about this.
So Peacemaker is out the first episode. We will do
a review of it tomorrow on the Geek Buddies and
have it out for you all either later that day

(01:32:09):
or in the morning on Tuesday, depending on what Jeff
and Jeff and I do a show tomorrow night or not.
But anyway, a lot of people coming for James Gounn
because he ret conned the end of the first episode
to bring in the Justice Gang.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
And Superman and super Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
To be a part of that ending scene of episode
one of season two of Peacemaker. Now you only see
them in the shadows. Only Hawkgirl and Green Lantern get
a line between them. No one else gets a line,
even though they're looking in the same direction, which is
really weird. But some people have been upset about this retcon.

(01:32:50):
I didn't care one bit, one iota, because I thought
the red con at the end of Peacemaker season or
I thought the appearance at peace Maker season one was
also a bit of a letdown because you only let
Flash and Aquaman speak. So for me, it wasn't that
big of a deal. I didn't mind the retcon. I
thought it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Honestly, it worked. It wouldn't be worked.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
You we didn't like Superman, so it worked. But he
was asked about retconning more stuff from season one of Peacemaker,
because remember he said, like, you know, certain things, cannons
and things aren't He said no, Unfortunately, I'd have to
change too many little things throughout season one, and it
would cost too much money, and I'd rather just give
that money to a few more CGI shots of superheroes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
But I think that we deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
We say Cannon is really Creature Commando Superman Peacemaker season two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
I'd love for people to watch season one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Obviously we're changing that one thing, but we're not going
to go back and reshoot all all of it for
season one, at least not at this point. At some point,
I'd love to George Lucas the shit out of it,
but right now I don't have the money. And some
people were asking about why Metamorpho didn't show up with
the Justice Gang because by the end of Superman he
joins the Justice Gang. When he was asked on this

(01:34:05):
on Threads, he responded, the previous section happens before Superman,
which means the first season of Peacemakers officially set before
Superman the movie, while the second season takes place after
the events of Superman the Movie. So now we have
the chronological idea of what's going on. And again, if

(01:34:27):
James Gunn wanted to go back and reshoot some scenes
from Peacemaker season one to ret con then to fit
into the DC universe that they currently have now, I
don't think anybody should have a problem with that because
it's the new DC universe, and clearly he showed with
that first movie he that he is. It resonates with
enough people that he's got a right to go back
and make some changes if he wants to. And I

(01:34:47):
think the red conning the Justice Gang worked just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
It was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
And if he gets a chance to go back and
reshoot some scenes for season one to weave them into
a future season a Peacemaker or a future in a
future scene in a in a movie, I don't think
people have an issue with it, you know, And so
I think this is a good thing to be honest
with you. And it makes and it makes it coherent,
and it makes it canon and there's a through line,

(01:35:13):
and I think that's important for people who are trying
to put things together in their minds about what's involved there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Now we're going to get into a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Of spoiler territory here because of Peacemaker. So if some
of you don't want to hear this, you can turn
it down right now. But I'm not revealing anything big.
I don't think cameo wise, right, But it has already
been reported that Joe Kinneman will come back to be

(01:35:43):
a part of Peacemaker season two, right, and in that
when he comes back my time to shine. Hello said
in Peacemaker season two, Rick Flagg Junior mentions his girlfriend
June the Enchantress, which makes the events of David Air's

(01:36:04):
suicide Squad at least somewhat canon to the DCU. So
that is fascinating. So if he mentions the Enchantress, that
means Kara del Avine her character is canon or this
is a toss away line. And yes, her character is canon,

(01:36:26):
but they're not going to bring her back. But I
have to believe that David Ayr, I'm sure James told
him he was going to do this, and now David
Ayer his suicide squad. Will we get not necessarily a
cut of the David Air cut of his suicide squad,
but will we get some of the scenes from suicide

(01:36:48):
Squad may be reshot in a different way.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
And remember, he's not a fan of the.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Suicide Squad, James of Suicide Squad, James gun.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Because he did the suicide Squad.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
But there's a shot at Jared Leto in the opening
episode where Jennifer Holland's character says she's not a fan
of thirty seconds to Mars, that's on purpose, that's not
an accident that they would bring up Jared Leto's band. Okay,
that's James Gun's way of saying, we don't want that
guy around here, right, So this is going to be

(01:37:21):
interesting how they weave elements of David Air's Suicide Squad
into the DC universe, into the DC and make them canon.
Because you know who else is a member of Suicide Squad?
That was Margo Robbie's Harley Quinn and she's already appeared
in the Suicide Squad, so Margo keeps. Margo said on
the on the tour, this the press tour this week
for Big Beautiful Journey. I thinks what it's called, she said, like,

(01:37:44):
there are no plans, No one's talk to me about Harley,
but I think I have to learn to share Harley,
which to me implies that someone else will be playing her.
Maybe there's a scene or scenes where she comes back
as Harley to pass the mantle onto a new Harley.
So Harley Quinn becomes something like James Bond or Batman,
where someone else can play the character or so not Batman,

(01:38:04):
I guess, because that is always Bruce Wayne. But you
know what I mean, James Bond, what have you. So
I think this is interesting to consider, and it's a
way of maybe, you know, kind of appeasing a fellow
director and might open the door for David Air to
come back and do a film in the DC universe,
might open the door to having scenes from his suicide squad,

(01:38:28):
his cut elements of his suicide Squad used in the
future by James Gunn. I certainly do not want to
see Caro the Delvine back as Enchantress. I think she's
not a good actress and I don't think I thought
she was terrible in the role, direction or not writing
or not, she was terrible in the role. And I
just don't think she's that great of an actress.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
So I wouldn't want to necessarily see her back.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
But I think this is an interesting thing to bring
in that relationship and what is that relationship going to
yield down the road in the DC universe and in
Peacemakers Season two. I suppose we're going to find out
at some point. Yeah, so we will see. Is that
everything there for that? I think that's everything there for that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
And the wreck?

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Oh yeah, let's talk about the Maxwell Lord Blue Beetle stuff.
So Maxwell Lord is known for two major storylines in
the comics, a more of the great character in Justice
the International which I have somewhere here, which I love
to read all the time, and then turning evil in
the comics and killing Ted Cord, shooting him in the face.

(01:39:34):
But James gotten clearly if you've seen the first episode
of Peacemaker, and you've seen that one scene of him
in Superman, the Maxwell Lord that he wants to focus
on is not the Maxwell Lord who is evil and
shoots Ted Cord in the face in the original iteration
of Maxwell Lord. In the comics, he served as the
team's wealthy and charismatic founder of Benefactor. He operated behind

(01:39:56):
the scenes, using his business acumen, connections, financial resources to
establish I should oversee the Justice League. He acted as
their manager, often playing the role of a negotiator deal maker,
and yes, some of his actions were a little morally ambiguous,
but it was never from a place of evil. But
then in Infinite Infinite Crisis and Countdown to the Infinite Crisis,
his backstory was revised to portray him as a far

(01:40:17):
more sinister figure, using his position to manipulate oh sorry,
using his position in the Jli Jli to secretly monitor
and just and manipulate superhero. So for those who don't
Jili Justice League International. His schemes were ultimately uncovered by
Blue Beetle, who then was shot in the face for
his trouble. So James Gun clarified that his Maxwell Lord

(01:40:38):
and he did this on social media. Of course, Max
was redcon as a sort of muscular evildoer after originally
being conceived by jam Demontees as a multi layered character
who was morally gray along with Skindy Amanda Waller. It
wasn't one of my favorite comic reimaginings. What James Gun says,
our Max is inspired by the original version, so don't

(01:41:00):
be waiting for him to shoot Blue Beetle in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
This is the version of Ted Cord that we're getting.
I will say one of my critiques of the first
episode is that Ted Cord, who is this incredibly intelligent
tech guy, doesn't understand how the mic is not working correctly.
I thought that was a lame joke in an unbelievable moment.
Considering he is the head of Lord Tech. He wouldn't

(01:41:25):
know how a microphone works, wouldn't have his own guys
installing the microphone in a situation like this, not trust
Guy Gardner the Dufist to do it. Yeah, I don't
think that would have happened. So that is a criticism
I have about the first episode. And I will say this,
I thought the first episode was kind of underwhelming. I
just love that first season so damn much that I

(01:41:46):
think this is going a little more into the superhero
stuff and it might tune me out a little bit.
It doesn't mean that it's bad objectively. Just for me,
I just was a little underwhelmed, and I did not
like the opening, the new opening. Fuck now, I went
back and rewatched the first opening to remind me of
how much I enjoyed that first open.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
The opening there, So.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Yeah, I didn't like. I don't like the song, I
didn't like the dance moves. Yeah, just yeah, underwhelming for me.
I still liked some of the stuff. I just thought
overwhelm underwhelming, And some of you might be like, oh
I see James gun bias. I liked Superman, I like
the first season, a Peacemaker, I like Cuchi Kamando's except
the finale. But I just felt this film, this first
episode was that underwhelming. All right, let's finish up with

(01:42:36):
some Star Wars news. Uh Visions Volume three is just
unveil its release date. It will be coming on October
twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, on Disney Plus. It will
feature nine brand new shorts with some returning Japanese anime
studios including Volume one Kenema, Citrus Company, Kamakazi, Douga Production, IG,

(01:42:58):
and Studio Trigger, with Fresh stories joining them with five
newcomer studios Anima, David Production, Polygon Pictures, Project, Studio Q,
and WT Studios. And unlike previous seasons, Volume three places
of strong emphasides on continuing existing narratives. So three shorts
will act as direct sequels to standout episodes on the
first season, including the Duel which gets me really excited,

(01:43:21):
The Ninth Jedi, and the Village Brides. We will see
three continuing installments from those stories. Three you know, three
stories continuing with installments. Additionally, Disney Plus is developing a
limited spinoff titled Star Wars Visions Presents the Ninth Jedi,
set to debut in twenty twenty six, which will delve
deeper into the story established in that particular short. So

(01:43:43):
that's exciting. I love Visions. I love both seasons of Visions.
You know, I get shit all the time from Vogel
on the geek Buddies that I'm not into animation. I
am into animation, but I'm very selective of the animation
that I'm into. And I love Visions. I go back
and watch some of those all the time, you know.
So it's funny. I don't go back and watch Clone
Wars all the time, but I will go back and

(01:44:03):
watch Visions all the time, just you know, my own
personal preference. One last thing on the Star Wars thing,
I think we should talk about this. Katie Sackoff, of course,
who was in the showdown, was you know, dated at
Chrishnarala for a little while, and of course she's a
star at Battlestar Galactica and was a star a co
star in season three of the Mandalorian Longmire other things.

(01:44:26):
But she was on a recent podcast she discussed she
discussed with her former Battlestar Galacton co star Tamo pennict.
I hope I'm saying that right. How playing Bocatan or
the Mandalorian Delta blow or a confidence? She said, I
lost all of my confidence after Mandalorian, all of it.
I've always played two steps removed from myself in a sense,
it always helped felt grounded in some part of my

(01:44:46):
belly of who I was. Bocatana is nowhere near who
I am as a human being, her life, what she wants.
I didn't understand her as much as I understood her.
I never felt her in my stomach. I never identified
with her. I didn't know how to find her. My
style of acting is always just spend your first instinct,
is the right instinct? Do that play the reality of
the situation. And I've never played a character Saka and

(01:45:07):
remember Sage originally this back in the Clone War speaking
Loon wars the Mandalorian and but continuing the story in
a fourth season. Oh sorry, but she continued the story
of course in season three, doing her and playing her
in live action, and she said that it broke her
her inability to really connect with the character fully. And
you know, a lot of people criticize Katie's acting. In

(01:45:29):
season three of The Mandalorian. She did a lot of
heavy lifting because Pedro was not physically on set and
he wasn't you know, in the costume.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
She said, it broke me. It just broke me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
I started doubting everything about myself. I'm not a strong
auditioner on tape, and I was having to put myself
on tape. I wasn't looking at anything, and for three
years I basically didn't work and it just destroyed my confidence.
She hired a new manager and acting coach who told her,
my goal is not to teach you how to act.
You know how to act. I just need you to
get back into your belly. You just need to find
your confidence again. And so she appeared in an episode

(01:46:03):
A Longe Order in twenty twenty four which I saw.
That's and has done some voice acting and now she
be part of the upcoming cast in Carrie. So let's
just tell you, like, you know, there's real people behind
this stuff, and there's real actors who deal with this stuff.
And so I think you have a right to express
your opinion on an actor, if they're good or not,
or if you believe them or not. But when it

(01:46:24):
slides into toxic city is where it becomes really dangerous.
And actors are not you know, people built of steel
and this in crazy incredible fortress around their around their hearts.
They're sensitive people, they're creatives. The reason they can create
the stuff they create is because they're creatives and in
touch with their feelings, in touch with their inner child,

(01:46:48):
for lack of a better term, and their emotions. And
so when you come after someone in a vicious, toxic
and harmful way, you send them down a negative path.
And clearly Katie went through a tough time for three years,
and I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
You know, when people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Come after you, it can be quite a lot to
take in and consume, and if you don't have the
right tools to deal with that, you can be caught
up in the grind of it all and it can
fuck with you. I mean, I mentioned Comaan and Johnny
at near the beginning of this episode and how he
had to go to therapy after the Eternals failed because
he had pinned so much of his self esteem on

(01:47:28):
the success of that movie and the success and that
he was going to be this big prominent character in
the Marvel universe. And he did one episode of what
If and that's it. So there's a lot that goes
into this stuff as actors, and I guess I would say,
as I'm coming to the end of the show that
you gotta think about that before you leave a comment, right,

(01:47:49):
And I think if someone is a bad person or
like radiates this kind of arrogance or this conceitedness, I
think you can say you know your opinions in a
little bit more of a toxic way. But I think
if you're if this is just an actor who's trying
to work, to go after them in such horrible ways,

(01:48:10):
I think is a dangerous thing. And actors are much
more sensitive than you think, and they're much more paranoid
than you think, and you can hurt them harder. You
can hurt them in ways that you didn't think of.
You could hurt them because you because you see them
as this successful entity who's making all this money, and

(01:48:31):
the truth is that they there's a lot of imposter
syndrome with actors. Even Daniel day Lewis, one of our
greatest actors, has said how like one of the biggest
fears he has on set every day is that they're
going to find him out that he's not really that good.
And so that is a prevalent feeling and a lot
of actors. So I thought it was really brave of
her to talk about this stuff. I do think her

(01:48:52):
blaming the manager was a bit much, because listen, you're
responsible for your career. You can't blame your manager for
you not being in the right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Place of your career, not doing more for you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
That's on you to take responsibility for your actions and
your stuff in your career. So I felt that was
a bit untoured. You can say that like I didn't
appreciate the things he had to said to me, but
basically yelling at him that he ruined her, I think
is nonsense. You have to take responsibility as an adult
for your own actions and your own decisions about your
career and your preparation for your career. And I think

(01:49:27):
at the same interview, she says how they kind of
ignored Edward James almost who gave them advice, the younger
actors on the set, and realized that his advice was
actually quite essential and helpful and if they had listened,
they might not have fallen into these traps that they
fell into in their careers as they went along. So
these are the things you kind of learn as you
go along in life. Is a lot of people scoff

(01:49:48):
at the older generation and the advice and the things
they try to tell them until they get to that
age and realize, fuck, they were right all the time.
How many of you have had that moment with your
parents when you say, like, yeah, you were right about this.
I thought such and such, or I thought this and this,
But now you're right. The world's a lot more grayer,

(01:50:08):
a lot more evil, or a lot more a lot
more different than I thought, you know, or more different
than I thought rather, and so it happened. So the
same thing here. So I wish Katie all the best.
I'm glad she's back on the horse and getting work
and all of that. And I appreciate her being brave
to talk about her stories. And I hope more. I
wish more actors would honestly open up about their process,
more creatives would honestly open u about the process and

(01:50:30):
what they go through. It'd be great to hear what
they what they have to say about this kind of stuff,
you know, So just putting that out there for you.
All right, let's get into some of these questions. Some
of these stream labs and super chats. Where are they?
How come I can't see them all of a sudden?
What's this all about? Comments? Here we go? All right,

(01:50:52):
I guess so do I have them? Usually it's at
the top, isn't it where they say like the star
when they separate them out. I don't know why the
chat's not doing that this time? Did I turn that off? Weird? Okay? Anyway, Uh,
let's I'll just read them. I hope you guys are

(01:51:13):
okay with that, or I'll bring them up in the chat.
I guess I'll just bring them up as I'm scrolling
through the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Wiley Todd, Hey, John.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's Requisitivities for the first time.
The Mickey Rooney stuff is awful. Besides that, the movie
is really enjoyable. Also, what happened to What happened to
director Bennett Miller? I think he's working on something. We've
been asked that on the Hot mic a couple of times,
because Bennett did a Fox Catcher, which I thought was
a good not a great movie, but certainly featured a

(01:51:43):
fantastic performance from Steve Carell. But let's see, Yeah, he's
got he did Yeah, he did Fox catch Wow. He
did a short hot cold Perfecto in twenty twenty three.
But he has a Christmas Carol coming up that's on
his resume, So I don't know. Maybe the Fox Catcher thing,

(01:52:05):
maybe it was all too much for him and he
just kind of disappeared for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
And didn't want to do anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
I don't know. It's a very good question. I don't
know what happened to him. But he didn't direct a
film until he was thirty eight years old, so you know,
it's kind of how it goes. Sometimes you just don't
know how you're going to be affected by the things
that come across in your life and how that will
put you in a certain frame of mind or a
certain place when it comes to that stuff in life.
So maybe he didn't realize what directing a film was

(01:52:36):
going to do to him emotionally and how he was
going to react to all of it, and how he
was going to respond to all of it. So we'll see,
Buddy factual opinion. Which one does YouTube? Which one does YouTube?
Take a smaller cut of super chat of stream labs. Oh,
stream labs is always the one I prefer because that
goes directly to me. Super Chats have to go through
YouTube and they take half of that money, so unfom

(01:53:00):
but you know, I should explore. I see other people
who go live that have like their zell and their
PayPal account or their VENMO. I just think that's a
little more naked. But maybe I just need to get
over it, you know, I need to get over it.
So but maybe I'll just put that up as like
graphics on the screen. Reggie Brown says, just don'ting able

(01:53:21):
to cash. Thank you, Reggie. Appreciated by the love you man.
Dylan' neil says, love the new direction of your channel,
Thank you, Infinity Ward Endgame was a finale for most people.
Lack of build up and too many projects has hurt them. Yeah,
currently Marvel Currently, I agree Justice. I just notice the
camera's a little high. You want to get hair? Yes,

(01:53:43):
I agree. As I said, the lack of build up
was is a big deal right now and so they
have all so both of these movies have a lot
of work to do.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
It was Fantastic four.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
It didn't really set up much other than there's a
doctor Doom there talking to Franklin Richards. So there's a
lot simon section, mister Roka, you are not a field
actor to me, your union walk the walk, talk to Talk,
I lasted six months. Have you heard of Senex Central
Casting Agency? On Flower Stream, Burbank. You have an age
since er. Oh, yeah, I yes, I remember. I wasn't

(01:54:13):
in EER, I was in.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Charmed. I don't think I was in e R.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Maybe or I was in Scrubs, but maybe I was
an extra on e R for a day or two.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
But yes, I do remember Central Casting on Flower Street
in Burbank. Yes, I used to go there when I
was doing extra work. The first year or two I
was in LA as a union union act. I was
a union from within, like a month after I landed here.
I was union because I got on wind Talkers within
the first two weeks I was here or not here.

(01:54:49):
I'm sorry, I'm in San Diego, but in Los Angeles.
The first two weeks I was in Los Angeles, I
got wind Talkers. I was on set a week later,
and then I got tariff Hartley Din, which means I
got paid as a sag act or. Right from the beginning.
I was very, very lucky. A lot of my friends
had come here months come to LA months before, and
they had not had one taft Hartley and here. I

(01:55:10):
come in late and get tatpart, and that caused some
problems with some of my friends. Initially. There was a
lot of jealousy or anger about that whole situation initially,
and then we kind of all got past because a
lot of them didn't end up becoming actors anyway, or
staying staying his actors. So yeah, but yeah, I remember
that for sure. Elle Smith, Ay, what's up? Roca, Glad
you got your channel back? Me too, buddy. Wow, Peacemaker

(01:55:33):
is much more hedonistic than I expected, being that Peacemaker
season two is gun stated follow up Schumann, Oh yeah,
I mean people are like, what about the Batman? There's
an orgy scene in Peacemaker season two with full on
frontal nudity from multiple people. Okay, multiple women and men,
so or I don't know if any of them are

(01:55:56):
trans or and drug I don't know, so, but like
it was full on stuff. So yeah, this idea that Superman,
I mean, Batman couldn't exist in James Gunn's universe is nonsense.
Can kids handle Peacemaker's mass drug.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Use and sex addiction?

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Well, I don't think. First of all, there was drug
use in the first and drinking in the first season,
So if your kids are coming to see Peacemaker, you're
doing a bad job.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Parenting your kids.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
If you're young adults or teenager are coming to see it,
then fine, But if the kids are coming and see it,
you're gonna have some I have to have some really
strong conversations with your children. They're pulling no punches in
this Peacemaker season two, and to be honest with you,
I wonder if it's going to be a bit of
a misstep. Yeah, the critics may like it, but I
wonder what the fandom is saying about it overall once
the season's over.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Because I was reading a new report about gen Z.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Because that article earlier this week from Variety like profiling
how Disney wants to attract gen Z people back gen Z,
young males back.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Good luck with that, Disney.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
And they mentioned how drinking is going down a moungst
gen Z. We already know that sex and pornography and
nudity are already going the desire for that are down
with gen Z.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Like gen Z is not into that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
So I have to wonder who are the people who
are clamoring for the return of boobs and nudity and
drug use and sexual situations. It's the fucking older generation.
It's the guys who got guys who got some girls.
I guess who got off on seeing this stuff in
the eighties or the nineties or even the early two thousands.

(01:57:33):
But the new generation, looking at the numbers that are
coming out from a number of independent studies, they are
not fans of the drinking, of drug use, of sex,
sexual scenes, nudity. So this idea that some of these
way older than gen Z people on YouTube, we're on

(01:57:54):
out here screaming how Disney lost the young men they
need to bring young men by making it over ok
to have sex and nudity and drug use and cussing
in there this is and drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
You all are talking for yourselves, not gen Z.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
Gen Z is. I'm studying more and more about gen Z.
They're not into that shit. Ironically, They're more of the pruder,
straight laced type of thing. Now, does it mean that
they're not also talking as fuck online with their comments
with yes. So I'm not saying gen Z is some
kind of safe harbor and savior of our country or
a world. But I am saying the things that some

(01:58:33):
people have been clamoring for here on YouTube, for the
return of are not actually things that gen Z wants
to see the return of So I think always process
it from that way, and always look at the messenger
who is telling you that, and the age of the
messenger who's telling me, and the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Gray hair on the messenger who is telling you that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Adrian Press feel like Doom movie thought of as a
hero from his universe to then be revealed as a
villain in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
The end of Doomsday. Well, I don't know, because.

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Fantastic four is the hero in their universe, Doom is
supposed to be coming from their universe Fantastic or maybe
Doom is from another universe, so you might be right,
But I think Doom is supposed to be a villain
in the Fantastic four universe, so I don't know if
that will be the deal. I think You'll still be
revealed as a villain in the end of Doomsday, but
it'll also be him leaving Rdj's body.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
kJ says. Are you interested in the Billy Joel documentary
Max Favy Vil Jewel Songs, Well, let me take it.
Here's what I'll say. I loved the documentary. I saw
both parts two weeks ago. I loved the first part
the second part, but I love the first part.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
The second part is my.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Issue with it is we get into the Christy Brinkley stuff,
which I'm not a big fan of, and then his failed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Marriages, and then they don't go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Deeper into how much of a gold digger that Food
Network wife of his was, in my opinion, not goldingger
in terms of money, golding in terms of using his
name as a shortcut to success, which we see people
do all the time. Now, I mean, I love that
my girlfriend, my life partner, is not the lady out law,

(02:00:14):
is not into being a presence on YouTube or anything
like that. To me, I just think that radiates shortcut
and I just I'm not a big fan, so.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
I wish they'd gone into that a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
But uh yeah. But otherwise, I thought the first part
was great, and I had no idea about the situation
with him and his first wife and the best friend.
There was a lot, but it made me fall back
in love with Billy Joel as an artist. I had
no idea he went through this crisis of confidence and
was going to just walk away from music all together
until the nine to eleven stuff happened or was it eleven? No? No? Uh, shit,

(02:00:48):
was it not eleven? No, it was something else that
brought him back into prominence, and then he became like
this big thing al he's been touring forever.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
But yeah, no, was it COVID the lockdown? Get what
it was?

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Something like brought him back. So I enjoyed that. And
Billy Joel songs. I mean, there's so many favorites, man, man,
there's so many favorites. Hold on, let's see. Because you asked,
I will look real quick. I'm sorry if I'm gonna
bore some of you all with this, but I fucking
love Billy Joel. Yeah, piano man for sure. Uh, moving

(02:01:22):
Out is a great one. I have a soft spot
for a matter of trust. And this is the time
from his Bridge album. And I even loved the song
he did with Ray Charles on the Bridge album, You
May Be Right is awesome. Glass House is that entire album.
I know, back to front only the good Die Young
is great. The Stranger is an awesome album as well.
I mean, I love Rosalinda's eyes. I even love that

(02:01:44):
quaint little thing. And to find out that he served
for like a year and a half after he had
a hit for a year and a half he served
as like the lounge band at a holiday inn. When
I listened to Rosalinda's eyes, now I have to see
through that prism because of I didn't know that about that.
The film or in the documentary, New York State of
Mind is excellent. The male Tourmee re I know you

(02:02:05):
guys are gonna say you old motherfucker. But the Mel
Tourmee remake of New York State of Mind is Chef's kiss.
I know Tony Bennet him. Come Together live was amazing.
It's on YouTube. Watch it. That's a great performance of
that song. But mel tour May's version of New York
State of Mind is a fucking unheralded great remake. Uh,

(02:02:25):
scenes from Italian restaurant, fucking classic. That's his epic song.
She's Got a ways amazing Summer Highland Falls. The live
version is incredible. You're My Home is incredible. Uh, just
the way you are down Easter Alexa. Even I Go
to Extremes is back when I used to lift. I
go to Extremes was on every one of my mixes

(02:02:47):
when I was lifting weights. And I even love the
smaller stuff like She's right on time. Zanzibar, Vienna, Vienna
waits for You. I love those stuff. So there's a
lot of Billy Joel songs that I thoroughly, thoroughly love, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
But thanks for the question. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
Let's see mattith and that documentary is on HBO Max
for those guys, WO don't know Matt at the movies?

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Matt says, I saw original TMNT movie last week. When
they do the last rona, should they go with the
practical suits again? Fuck? No, man, when they do last Ronin? Well,
I'm sorry, I meant when you said practical suits, I'm
thinking of like the original suits. So sure, go practical suits,
but go like way sleeker, way more badass, and way

(02:03:29):
more cool. And look, those are fun for nostalgia, but
like to me, see the last ron In is a
darker story, So to me, you gotta go with a
darker look and a darker kind of sleeker, more badass
look of it all.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
So we'll see. K Just says, how did you lose
forty pounds?

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
You are in inspiration?

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Well we're up to forty five now, as I weighed
myself the other day, forty five pounds.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
So this is basically what I did, and this is
no lie.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
I know other people like to tell you they lost
by a new workout regime. Meanwhile they're they're slamming Waygov
or Zempach or PLG one, whatever the dog is. And
I got no problem with that. Listen, use all the
drugs you want to lose weight. I got no legal
I got no issue with that. Just don't lie to
people that you're not using it. That's the problem I have.
I have no problem with you're telling people, Hey, a

(02:04:18):
new workout plan, but you combined it with also taking
shots of the weight loss drugs. Again, no problem to
Charles Barkley, looks great, he's lost so much weight on that.
Steve Morris is using it on the cinema, he's lost
weight and looks great. I got no problem with people
using these drugs.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
It's path.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
But be honest. You know, when people ask you how
you lost it, I.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Have not done that. I wanted to do it myself.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
I was beating myself up pretty bad for about a
year about how heavy I had gotten, and I simply
followed this plan that awakened one to eighty weight loss,
which you can go to their website. I think it
is Awaken oneadieweight looss dot com. They got me on
a plan to sponsor the centophiles. They paid for everything,

(02:05:04):
and in the end I ended up buying all this
stuff because some of their products didn't work for me.
But basically they taught me how to eat healthy for
my life. And now look, for whatever reason, I listened
to this time around and I saw the results, and
I'm at two seventeen right now.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
I'm very happy where I'm at, almost at eighteen.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
I think I'm almost at fifty pounds because I was
at two sixty four when I started this thing, and
I would like to get down to two fourteen to eleven,
two ten and kind of like top it off there.
But what I basically did was I followed this regime,
this pattern, this the plan. Every day, I wake up
and I make three eggs. They say to make two,

(02:05:44):
but I make three. Three eggs. However, you want to
make them three eggs. Drink water. You have to drink
eighty ounces of water a day. I drink water and
I eat within the first hour when I wake up,
so you get your body's engine going. Then within two
to three hours I have a protein shake, so I

(02:06:05):
try to get up around six or seven, so I'm
eating by seven thirty, a protein shaked by ten, and
then I have Then you have lunch at one o'clock.
Now lunch and dinner are the same. And by that
I mean they recommend six to seven to eight ounces
of protein.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
Could be anything.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
Could be steak, could be burgers, could be chicken, could
be fish, could be turkey, could be chicken meat. And
then two cups of vegetables and certain vegetables like broccoli
or asparagus or brussels sprouts are just like these green
vegetables right, or spinach, well, actually spinach doesn't count. Something else.

(02:06:43):
There's a list of vegetables I have found that broccolini, broccoli, asparagus,
and brussels sprouts. These are my four go tos when
it comes to vegetables, and guacamole. Avocado is a big
deal too, and I cut in some tomatoes. So basically
that so for lunch you're eating, and it should be

(02:07:04):
two to three hours after you have your shake or
your protein bar, whatever it is you want to have
there and then I eat that and then I two
to three hours later another protein shaker protein bar and
then dinner and it's the same thing as lunch, six
eight ounces of protein and then two cups of vegetables.

(02:07:25):
They could be steamed. I steam my vegetables. Some people
like to fry their vegetables. I steam mine. And then
if you want at night, you can have a dessert,
which is another protein shaker snack. And that has been
my life for the last five months. And it has
been great. And you're drinking, as I said, eighty ounces
of water and over the last two to three weeks

(02:07:47):
four weeks, I guess I've occasionally cheated. I've had a
thing of popcorn. I've had some grapes, because you can't
eat fruit, and you can't eat sugar. It's all carbs,
no sugar or light sugar like carbs really overall. But
that's the focus, and that has been essential for me.
And I haven't walked a mile, I haven't lifted a weight.

(02:08:10):
I haven't all of a sudden started working out of
the gym, none of them. I've lost the weight naturally.
And I have enjoyed making the food. I've enjoyed cooking.
I've enjoyed I bought a Ninja grill and I have
used that thing religiously, along with some new pans I
bought months ago, and so it's been kind of great

(02:08:31):
to cook at home to you know, make sure I
adhere to a certain time, monitor myself and I don't
go hungry. And yeah, do I occasionally crave a burger, Yes,
and when I do, I'll have that burger, but I
won't cheat the rest of the week. So it's just
those things that you learn as you go along. So

(02:08:51):
my body's responded well, you know, and I'm no spring chicken,
and so it's been great. But yeah, that's how I
did it, man, And that's worked for me. It doesn't
mean it's kinda work for everybody, but that's what worked
for me. And it's every day when you're starting out cheating,
you don't want to cheat because you when you cheat,
you throw yourself out of the burn and then it

(02:09:12):
takes two or three days for your body catch up again.
So I think at the beginning, you don't want to cheat.
I was very strict about it, you know, and adhere
to it. And yes, were there times where it was
just like, you know, I really wanted to slice a
pizza or something. Yes, but that eventually goes away, you know,
and you have to find the food that works for you.
That's really the most important thing is finding the food

(02:09:33):
that works for you. So yeah, all right, there we go,
Sorry guys. Kjo also said what older movie would you
love to see in theaters on the big screen. I
would want to see Superman, sev need raise a law Stark. Well,
I've already seen pretty much everything, man. I mean, I
were living in la for twenty years, so many movies
were screened at the Egyptian, at the Arrow at New Beverly,

(02:09:53):
sometimes at the Arc Light when it was open, at
the Grove every once in a while. So I've seen
just about all the great movies and classics that I
ever want to see on screen, like Lawrence of Arabia,
The Godfather Part two, Part one, two thousand and one,
Chariots of Fire, a lot of the Michael Mann stuff

(02:10:16):
that they put back up on screen. Yeah, so I've
seen a lot of classics. So what would I want
to see? I saw Superman on screen, Raiders I saw
on screen, Jeez, that would be tough. Maybe the Searchers
because I've never seen the Searchers on a big screen,
and I love that Western, so maybe the searchers. I

(02:10:36):
would put that as something I've never seen on a
big screen, so I would love to see that.

Speaker 2 (02:10:41):
I saw Chinatown on a big screen.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
That was great, Cowboys fan, I jooses hijant heavy Sunday,
going back to the Robert Jennon Junior of it all,
I have a gut feeling it's true. Sadly. Secondly, guys,
before COVID, I met John in person at the Top
ten Live in London, and he could not be a
nicer person. He took pictures with all of us. To
any haters out there, this guy really is a nice
in real life. Wow, thanks Cowboys. I appreciate that. Yeah,
I mean, I am always very humbled by people who

(02:11:06):
come up and say they watch my stuff or they
hear my stuff. Because remember, this wasn't my goal in life,
you know, And so it's all been just kind of
a crazy ride, and the Top ten years were so
much fun and getting I mean, that London show is
one of the greatest nights of my life.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
Honestly, it's one of the top ten greatest nights of.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
My life to have people we sold out almost the
entire we almost sold out, like we were like, I
think it was what three hundred people for their people,
and they came from thirteen different countries, flew in, got
hotel rooms to see our show.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
It was just mine biding, you know, for me, and
so I was.

Speaker 1 (02:11:46):
Very honored by that. I wish we had been able
to keep that. COVID just absolutely killed us. We had
plans to go to all kinds of cities and countries
to do the Top ten and have fun. We had
separate Top ten groups up in different countries and had
people assigned to be in charge of those countries for
our fandoms to line up people showing up, and so

(02:12:08):
there was a lot of plans for Top ten and
then eventually it just, you know, it fell apart because
of COVID and Matt and I eventually just got kind
of sick of doing the show, and you know, it
went the way it went, you know, because we just
ran out of it, and Matt wasn't like I was like, well,
let's some top ten TV shows and Top ten this
and Top ten that, and Matt wasn't into it. He
was more into just doing the movies. And then eventually
we were just naming the same movies and it just

(02:12:29):
kind of went by the wayside. So you know, it's unfortunate,
but you know, the thing is, you have to be
appreciative of things that were and not the things that ended. Right,
you have to be appreciative of the way that you
even had it, not that you not that it ended.
And I think that's the way I look at the
top ten now. It was really a miracle and a
half that us two came together at the time that

(02:12:53):
we did that. I was hungry and aggressive to create
something good, and Matt was willing to let me have
space to take the lead at times, and then he
took the lead when it came to our live shows,
because so Matt wanted to be the lead of the show.

Speaker 2 (02:13:09):
And I think Matt, to his.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Credit, realized, Okay, he's better doing color, he's better doing
common on this particular show.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
Like he leads his own.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
Show now, the Score show that he does, which is
a lot of fun and people have been on it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
I've been on a few times, but.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
With our show, I just thought it was better that
because Matt was Matt was the funny one, and me
just teeing him up like a point guard for him
to make the shots was the better, better way to
go about it. But you know, we switched back and
forth during the course of a show. But you know
I was always when the intro to outro of the show.
But yeah, so it was fun, and yeah, it was

(02:13:47):
great meeting you guys. And so I know a lot
of people like to say negative shit about me because
I go because I go after people who I think
are bullying me, or are saying negative stuff about stuff,
or are being ridiculous. Yes, I'll call them out and
then they'll call, oh, he's bull and it's like, no,
I'm fighting back.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
I'm throwing your energy back at you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Kind of love with Gavin Newsom now is doing with Trump, right,
Gavin Newsom is ridiculing Trump by by doing tweets that
are similar to Trump's to show a mirror to MAGA
about how ridiculous they are to support this guy and
the nonsense he's been spewing in the way he's been
spewing it on social media. So I like to throw
people's energy back in their face. Now, it doesn't mean

(02:14:25):
that at times I haven't misstepped and misunderstood and said
things that were out of pocket because I thought something
was going on that was going on. Of course, I've
made mistakes. I'm not perfect, but I do think I'm
a good person. I care about the people in my life.
I fight for the people in my life. And if
I see you on the street and you're kind to me,
I'm always, uh, you know, open to talk with you,

(02:14:46):
shake your hand, take a picture, or whatever it's it's
a it's a humbling moment for me. I know people
don't want to believe that, but it's true. And you know,
I'm one of I believe I'm one of the more
authentic people out there in the space.

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
Whether people want to believe that or not, it's up
to them.

Speaker 1 (02:15:02):
kJ also says what do you think of Denzel not
auditioning for a movie since eighty nine? And Eddie Murphy
not auditioning for ending since says, you know, very impressive. Yes,
I would agree, and I'm not surprised Denzel doesn't audition.
I think he did a little something for Gladiator Part two,
but he doesn't audition and he shouldn't. He's Denzel, for
God's sakes, and he just said, Eddie, you know what
you're gonna get. There's enough movies for you to look
at or performances for you to look at to be like, Okay,

(02:15:24):
I know what I'm getting you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
So, yeah, I'm not surprised by that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
And it's very impressive, especially in a world of Hollywood
where black actors don't necessarily get a chance to do
a lot of projects. So see Black Says Doomsday, Secret
Wars smile. So Spider Man four will make a one
point five billion each Spider Man has never made one
point never made a billion. Well, I think New Way

(02:15:48):
Home made a billion dollars. But I mean, we'll see,
we'll see. Certainly possible, anything is possible. I don't feel
like Spider Man will, but you never know, And with
all the drama going behind the scenes, I have less
faith it either one of those two will happen. Cagu's
are you aching to see David Airs suicide squad cut?
I would love to see it. I'm not itching for
I'm not dying for it, but yeah, I would love
to see it. I think he's got a right to

(02:16:09):
make a cut and put it out there. I'd be
in support of it. I can't imagine that DC would
ever do that, but I would love to see it.
Of course, let's.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
See page chaw dream was up. Page.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Hey guys, I'm going to have ear wreck recon surgery.
Nervous be well, John, Lady out low many happy returns. Well,
I'll say, I pray for you, Page and send good
thoughts out to you. In fact, anyone who's listening right now,
whether you're listening live or watching this later, please send
some love to Page. Give her some love and send
some good thoughts so that she gets through the surgery
okay and gets a very good result afterwards. So sending

(02:16:44):
a lot of love Page, Good luck, Cowboys fan. Lastly,
I met Haley atwell pre COVID and a con and
she is so nice.

Speaker 2 (02:16:50):
She took three pictures of me.

Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
Yeah, I've heard nothing about great things about Haley. She's
one of those ones as well that gets it. She's
very sweet, she's very kind. I met tut I interviewed
tatown Himani like I don't know, eight years ago, nine
years ago at Comic Con seven or eight, nine years
ago Comicon before COVID. I interviewed her for the last
season of Or From Black her in her entire cast,

(02:17:14):
and I made sure to ask the cast questions about
the show and then circle back to Tatiana, so I
balanced it out. So I started out with her and
forsed to follow up, then asked the other members of
the cast certain questions, then went back to Tian, then
asked a couple more questions, and then back to Tatiana.
And by the end of the interview when it was over,

(02:17:35):
she and this was that the nerd age Q because
they paid the me Matt mark Ellis to host hours
of the of streams. By the end of the interview,
she came up to me and said to me how
much she appreciated the interview and how grateful she was
that I asked other members of the cast questions because

(02:17:56):
she was feeling self conscious that a lot of the
interviews were just asking her questions and not the cast,
and they were just kind of sitting there, and so
I was like, well, no, that's just that's I know
what it's like to be an actor sitting there watching
another actor ask all the questions or answer all the questions.
So I kind of felt it was the better way.
And she was very sweet and very nice, and I

(02:18:17):
cheer for her like crazy, which is why I'm I'm yeah,
I'm sad that she Holke didn't wasn't a better show
and didn't get a didn't have a bigger footprint in
the MCU, and its people ridicule her because Tatyana is
a great person, a damn good actress, and so it's
a shame that that project didn't come off as well
as it could have. And I hope we see more
of her down the road. We will see uh plethora

(02:18:39):
one Sea says, Hey, John, sorry for keep asking, but
have you heard anything about who the villain is for
Batman too? If Robin is in, then Tony Zuko flying Grayson's,
isn't it. Yeah, I don't know what version of Robin
they're gonna do. Brother, I haven't heard what I do
know from my source they sent me something Batman related?
What did they? So we should get some casting for

(02:18:59):
the Batman Part two in the next few months, which
is a pretty general comment, so nothing too big there. So,
but I don't know. A lot of people are still
speculating the Robins situation, even though James Gunn said it
was nonsense. Of course, if a Robin does show up,
James Gunn is gonna look really bad saying it was nonsense.
But I don't know who the villain is going to be.
I think all of them are on the table. I
think Jeff has heard who the villain is going to

(02:19:19):
be more than I have, So it makes sense. Jeff
is the Scooper. I am not a Scooper. I get
occasional stuff. Michael Miles is a growing amount of people
want to see the MCU fail. Love them or hate them.
People still talk about them more than any other franchise.
The speculation scrutiny on this show and others only benefits them.
Don't write them off. Let's get some point, Michael. Excellent point.
People do talk about Marvel all the time. What is

(02:19:42):
the Sometimes it's better to have to be in the
mouths of people than to not be in the mouths
of people, because anything is possible.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
So excellent point, Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
Yeah, people and people have whole channels dedicated to either
uplifting Marvel or bashing Marvel. Like entire livelihoods depend on
Marvel and so, and whether these people want to admit
it or not, their entire leatherhoods depend on Marvel. So yeah,
good point. Michael kJ says Gun should have made it
clear that Creature Commandos was an adult. Don't cartoon my

(02:20:12):
kids are still recovering. Well, Bro, I mean, as a
parent you should always sample the merchandise before you pass
the merchandise on to your children. But uh, yes, I
get the joke. It's very good, Michael. Don't watch Peacemaker,
don't fucking take your kisses, or don't let them watch Peacemaker.
Michael Mahas also says if gun has no issue with

(02:20:33):
the handwave retcon for Peacemaker, then doing another handwave retcon
to add Batison to the DCU should not be an
issue either. He can pick and choose, for he can't
pick and choose for convenience. Well, Michael, I, in the
in the overall objective Uh what can.

Speaker 2 (02:20:52):
I say this?

Speaker 1 (02:20:52):
In the overall objective point of view, You're right. But
in the reality, of course, he can pick and choose
because he is the head of DC Studios with Peter Saffren,
so he can do whatever the hell he wants as
long as it makes money and it doesn't cause them

(02:21:13):
to fail or have failures of projects. So yes, I
hear you on the in the macro sense, in the
more idealistic sense, he shouldn't be able to pick and choose,
But in the real sense in the micro sense. Of course,
he can pick and choose because he's in charge, just
as Spigy can. I do want to say, you know,
I haven't best James Gunn the whole time we've been

(02:21:34):
doing this, so but I do want to say that
I don't like the way he was. He said that
if an actor doesn't it can't continue. I'm just going
to recast him like it's no big deal. Like you
have to have a little more respect in how you
speak about actors walking away from projects.

Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
Or not being able to continue.

Speaker 1 (02:21:50):
And I think that I think there's at times, and
as I watch more interviews with James, I realize this,
James is a super nerdy motherfucker. Like he's super nerdy
and so, and I think he does have a good heart,
a good soul. But I do think he also has
a very strong sense of ego and belief in himself,
and at times those things kind of slam together. And look,

(02:22:12):
some people might say that about me, like John is
usually really nice, but then when he gets angry about things,
it kind of unsettles me or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:22:18):
Like I understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
So, you know, maybe I need to start cutting James
a little bit of slack because I saw him in
a couple of interviews over the weekend, and I he
is a super nerd, like he does the giggle nerds
like things like that, and he'll blurt out things and
do the in the inhale stuff that he does. So
he's got the kind of nerdiness to him. And I'm

(02:22:42):
still gonna call out certain things when i think he missteps,
but I think I'm gonna have to look at some
of his comments a little bit differently and maybe, you know,
watch more interviews with him and get more of an
I'm not backtracking or anything I've said before. I'm just
saying that recently I've watched a little some more interviews
with him and as he's doing press for Peacemaker, and

(02:23:02):
I kind of realized that he's just a nerdy guy
and maybe sometimes when he's stepping into these moments of shit,
it's from a well intentioned place. But that doesn't mean
he still doesn't deserve criticism, right. I want to make
sure we can operate on both sides of that situation
where you understand it but still call it out because

(02:23:23):
you want to make sure he doesn't do it again,
you know, Michael Mossel says, they've gonna Oh, we already
said that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:28):
Sorry about that, Michael, thank you very much for that
super Cheat, the new one, Hello John.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
The two people who are fighting on the Doomsday set
where their names revealed in the chair announcement. I don't know, man,
I don't have all thirty seven names memorized. And they've
added new cast members since that time, so I don't know, bro,
But my guess is yes, maybe because they are two
cast members, and those cast members are already on set working,

(02:23:53):
So I don't think they've announced any cast members that
are working that we're not part of it, right, I
don't think. So let's see. Well, people are commenting on this.
Spanish was my main food when I lost one hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Oh, shout out camera.

Speaker 3 (02:24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24:11):
Respect As I said, it's different, Zachra says, off of
to you, exercise, I don't, Zachary, I don't. I don't exercise.
I got to get back on it. But I have
an exercise consistently like eight years, like honestly yesterday, but
losing the weight has been incredible. Yesterday we walked three
hours through the book fair in the heat, and at
no point was I exhausted, needed to sit down, needed

(02:24:34):
water even and I'm a camel man, like I've hiked
Runyon for two hours in one hundred degree weather without
a water bottle because I just retained, I can drink
water before I go and that I like being thirsty,
I like sweating, I like all of that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:49):
So I'm just built that way. The fact that I
could do.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
It yesterday at the weight I'm at and not fall apart,
I would not have been able to do that six
months ago, at two sixty I would have been able.
I wouldn't have been able to walk maybe twenty minutes
without breathing heavy, needing to sit down, sweating.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
Like it was bad.

Speaker 1 (02:25:09):
It was bad. And I think about some of the
like when I walk through the Farmer's market, I think
about some of the fast food breakfast I used to eat.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
Like this sandwich.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
There's two eggs, thousand Island sauce, bacon, sausage and hash
and potato tots on top along with the bread like
a Brioche bun, fuck with fries, with fries. That's what
I was eating for breakfast on Saturdays, with froes, you know.
And those are the things that you just kind of

(02:25:36):
look at it and go man, those things I had
to stop. And as I read more and more about
the how you get healthy, it is absolutely losing the weight.
And look, not trying to fat shame anybody, but like
when you lose the weight, you feel better, your numbers
come down, all the stuff is better for you overall.
And now I need to start adding an element of

(02:25:57):
working out because I need to build up my cardio,
which I think I can still do a good cardio,
but I need to bring up my weightlifting because as
I get older, I hear about how like if you
don't with weights, your bones break easier, the density of
your bones gets thinner. So I already noticed that how
much of muscles I've lost over the last two years.
So like it's like you've got to I got to
get back on it. So that's the next step. I

(02:26:18):
want to work my way back to CrossFit for God's sakes.
JT says, do you eat out ever? Yes, but it's
specific things like I'll go to Rubios and get their
new Mercado salad, but I won't get it with cheese.
I won't get it with black beans. I'll get chicken
and steak. I won't get any of the dressing. I'll
use salsa instead as dressing. And no chips. I allow

(02:26:39):
that myself. The corn, but that's when I or go
to Chipotle and get a salad, but no corn, no rice,
no beans, guacamole, picota gayo, and chicken and usually a.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
Double portion of chicken.

Speaker 1 (02:26:53):
So you're eating certain things you can eat out, but
you have to make adjustments in how.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
You eat out.

Speaker 1 (02:26:58):
Michael miles back. He says, okay, last one, Rick Fla
Junior is coming back. Wait, I'm confused. I thought Gunn
said dead is dead in the Duco. Well think about it,
think about it. What did we see in the trailer
for Peacemaker? There are alternate universes, right, so think about it, right,
So think about it. And you see in the trailer
that there's another Peacemaker, so you know clearly there's another universe.

(02:27:22):
So it is still dead.

Speaker 2 (02:27:23):
Is dead?

Speaker 1 (02:27:25):
Just to clarify that for you, man, But thank you,
min Uh, Dancing Pod says. Dancing Dog sixty says, great
show is always John, Thank you Dancing Dog, thanks for
hanging out. Thanks for the three hundred and fifty of
you or four hundred of you who are he's still
here now. Dan Stulson says, also, you're right about celebrities
being human. I onance slam Jamie Kennedy on his YouTube channel.
He read the comment and I felt bad. Yeah, I met.

(02:27:45):
I interviewed Jamie. If you want to go back and
see my interview with Jamie, it's on my channel, the
Deep Cut Playlist.

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
I had a fun conversation with Jamie Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (02:27:53):
Uh, good dude. Do I always agree with this politics? No?
But I think he's a good guy and I had
a good conversation with him. But yeah, he's a sense
a kid. So yeah, it's good to be aware of
the things that you're you're going through. So Joe Rogan
talks about importance for older people, but Joe's also you know, uh,

(02:28:15):
maybe he altered.

Speaker 2 (02:28:16):
I'll just say that allegedly.

Speaker 1 (02:28:19):
All right, let's see stream labs here, glimmer cass is,
what are your most antipate anticipated smaller to mid sized
budget films for the rest of the year. Oh uh,
well it isn't, honey, don't. I'll tell you that right now.
I'm not going to see that at all. Release calendar.
Let's see what have we got all the Roses. I'm
looking forward to the Roses next week. Uh Splitsville. I

(02:28:42):
hear good things. Although I'm not the biggest Dakota Johnson fan.
The Long Walk. Oh, we might be hosting something. There
may be announcements sometime next week. I might be hosting
something here in San Diego for the Long Walk with
a colleague of mine who I very much enjoy and respect.
So we will announce that when it gets confirmed. Let's

(02:29:05):
see what else. One battle after another I consider a
smaller thing because it's a PTA film smashing machine against
an A twenty four film. I am looking forward to
that one. If I had legs, I kick you. Everyone
is saying how great that film is. Animni, which I
saw the trailer earlier this week. The new Daniel da

(02:29:25):
Lewis film looks great. Kiuse of the Spider Woman, No Thanks.
After the Hunt, the Julia Roberts one with Edrew Garfield
and Ioda biriy I am looking at the Mastermind. Although
I'm not a big a lot of Ham fan as
an actress. Their music is great. I just don't like

(02:29:46):
her as an actress. I think that Springsteen film, I
don't know if that's small necessarily. I think that's it's
Oh Rental Family, the Brendan Fraser one. Definitely looking forward
to that one. Yeah, I think those are it for now.

(02:30:11):
Ellen McKay, I'm kind of on the fence and Ellen McKay,
I'm not sure if I want to see that one. Yeah,
that's yeah. I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Yeah, I think that's it. There you go, that's my answer.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Thank you very much for that dancing for a question there,
glimmer cast.

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
Let's see here, Seattle was their thoughts on the Roger
Johnson Quentin Rampage Jacksonson situation. Basically, it was a pro
wrestling work that went awright. I don't know any think
about it, Seattle. I haven't read up on it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:42):
I saw a post about it on.

Speaker 1 (02:30:43):
Twitter this morning as I was scrolling through Twitter, but
I don't know much about it, so I can't comment
on it. So apparently he legitimately hit the guy and
then really knocked him out and possibly brought him close
to death. That's all I was able to catch. But
I didn't watch the video right and hear any commentaries.
I don't know. Betto Powers has just completed your deep
Dive into Jaws Part two. I hope it's a four

(02:31:05):
part series. The conversation is truly amazing, by far the
best in depth movie podcast out there in my opinion,
Like critics, you elevate great movies and take us on
a journey.

Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
Thank you, bet Oh yeah, I should plug that.

Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
We are Part two of our deep Dive into Jaws
is out. Now We're not even on the boat yet,
that's how deep we're going into Jaws. Like we are
taking this thing like scene by scene, like we do
on the Centophiles of my podcast, which I've been doing
for almost ten years with my co host Steve Morris.
We just finished doing three parter into the super Man

(02:31:36):
nineteen seventy eight super Band with Michael Vogel. But now
we're diving into Jaws. We did part one last week,
part two this week, and we are going scene by
sceneing and we're like bringing out all facts.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
We're bringing out some information.

Speaker 1 (02:31:49):
We're talking about the actors and what ended up with
happening with them. So it's a very in depth, in
depth expiration of Jaws. Plus we're talking about the performances,
the direction, the cinematography feed, what lenses are being used
how this all came about. So there's a lot that
goes on. I'm very proud of that show. We average
about two hundred thousand downloads a month on that show.

(02:32:10):
So you know, if you guys haven't, if you guys
want to bone deep expiration in the movie and to
hear a completely different side of me, you can listen
to the Centiphiles with me and Steve Morris because it's
much more of a chill conversation exploring the love of
a movie type show. And so I highly recommend it
for you all who haven't tried it out, then there's
probably a movie that you love that we've talked about.
Because we've been doing it for almost ten years. You're

(02:32:33):
all hybrid. Eighty two says just sending support. Appreciate you, John, Oh,
thank you, Bro. That's a very kind donation. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (02:32:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
That's I appreciate that very much. Glemercast also said, are
we talked about that Glamor cast anymore? And adventures average
Joe seven He says, remember the time you told African
Americans that the Dear White People movie wasn't devised?

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
Eve, even though they had negative things to say about
the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:32:58):
No, I don't. I don't even remember that movie. What
movie is that? Dear White People? Thanks for the dollar
for that you got your shot in What is Dear
White People? I don't even remember that movie? Honestly, I
do not remember that people. That's twenty seventeen. How could
I have said anything about that movie when I wasn't
even in the space was I? Yeah, I don't remember that.

(02:33:29):
I didn't even saw this movie or series, right, I
never even saw the series.

Speaker 2 (02:33:32):
So, uh, what I said?

Speaker 1 (02:33:35):
I told every they do work. Oh, I didn't say
any of that, So please, I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:33:41):
But thanks for coming in and being a troll.

Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
I don't know. El Alvin says went to go watch
Cott Steel last night. He was wild and entertaining. It
was cool to see Regina king back. Are you going
to watch it? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:53):
I'm not hearing good things.

Speaker 1 (02:33:55):
I'm not hearing good things about that movie. My buddy
Scott manzel Over at HGA said that he just did
not like the movie. Almost walked out of that movie.
So yeah, I don't. I don't anticipate seeing it. I think,
he said. Austin Butler was the only reason he even
remotely stayed to finish watching the movie. So, yeah, I

(02:34:17):
don't know. I've got to see it and put it
together at some point, but I don't know if I'm
rushing out see it'll probably be on on digital or
something or on when it comes down to home media.
So he says, uh, Glen mccas one got I saw cousin.
I like the parts of Matt Smith a lot. So
am I thinking of the right movie? Is that the
word with Austin Butler? Uh yeah, Austin Butler. Yeah yeah,

(02:34:44):
with Bad Bunny too, right, directed by Darren Aronofski.

Speaker 2 (02:34:47):
Yeah, yeah, I said, yeah, Aroonowsky yea. I guess I
should see it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:52):
Fine, I guess I'll see it. Coywach Francais. By the way, John,
I've never said this, but thanks to centipals, I tracked
on every old film after our listened to a past
episode on said film or films.

Speaker 2 (02:35:02):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:35:02):
Thanks, that's great. I'm glad we inspire you to try
out films. That's kind of the point of the show,
along with giving our thoughts on everything. All right, let's
wrap it up there. Thank you all so much. Two
and a half hours. Geez, I did not expect to
go that long. I am hungry and needs some lunch.
You guys are amazing. Thanks for hanging out with me
tonight today rather and please remember to subscribe to the channel. Man,
that's a really big thing, subscribing. If you haven't subscribed,

(02:35:24):
hitting at bell Button Sushi, we're dropping all the content.
Leave your comments on everything if some of you, if
one of you wants to do time codes, that would
be great. I'm not going to get to them until later.
That would be awesome, and you can separate them by
sections of things we talk about. But yeah, so thank
you so much. But let's thanks for the streaming. Thanks
with the super said, thanks for the lively chat. We
had almost five hundred of you joining us for a

(02:35:45):
majority of the conversation, so thank you so much. And
just to reiterate the two actors involved on the Avengers
Doomsday battle or fuff argument, we're not RDJ and Ryan Reynolds,
not artij I just want to reaffirm that. So thank
you so much. Remember that we got to geek Buddies
and Hot Mike coming up in the early part of
the week, then we got spilled a tequila on Tuesday,

(02:36:06):
then possibly another episode of the Truth on Wednesday, and
then Hot Mike again, Geek Buddies again, and all the
other stuff we got going on as well, and of
course tomorrow Christian harlof Channel.

Speaker 2 (02:36:15):
Nine am PT and the Cinophiles.

Speaker 1 (02:36:17):
If we just mentioned part two of our deep Diving
Jaws out there now for you all to enjoy, So
make sure you try that out, have some fun with it,
and thanks so much. Remember what I say at the
end of every one of these shows, whatever you need
to do to get to the next second, next minute,
next hour, next day, next week, next month, next year,
please find your way to do that. You know, it's
a tough, tough world out there. The madness is just

(02:36:38):
increasing every day out there. If you're even remotely politically
cognizant of what's happening, it is a scary.

Speaker 2 (02:36:44):
Time out there.

Speaker 1 (02:36:46):
But there are people fighting back, There are people standing up,
There are people resisting, There are people who are fighting
ways to turn things around. You gotta have faith, you
gotta believe, you gotta do the things you need to
do to help yourself not get too old. Overwhelmed. Doesn't
mean you can't get overwhelmed, but you've got to find
your ways out or maybe in a smaller way your world.

(02:37:06):
You have stuff going on in your life. You have
stuff going on in your world. Find your way to
bring peace to your life, where it's listening to a song,
taking a walk, reading on some tools that you can
use to get yourself level. Because, as I've said before,
which is the new thing I'm adding to this ending
that I do for these shows, you are undefeated coming
out of the tough times. You are undefeated. The tough

(02:37:28):
times have never beaten you. You've beaten them when they've
come because you're still alive, You're still here. So it's
really important to remember that, have faith in yourself, fight
for yourself, find your peace as well, and really take
care of your self. Care is so important, So make
sure you do that. Because I like having you. For
those who've been with me for so many years, thank

(02:37:50):
you for those who've been for a little while, thank
you for those who are new, welcome aboard. I always
want you all to survive, to live, to fight your
way through the tough times. Because I've done that and
I've come out the other side. Doesn't mean there's tough
times don't come. It just means you've got a lot
of you've got to remember your track record of getting
through them, that you've done it before. It's important to

(02:38:10):
do that because it can feel like you can't, and
I'm here to tell you that you can.

Speaker 2 (02:38:15):
That's what I want to tell you on this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (02:38:16):
All Right, I love you guys, take care of yourselves,
be well, and I'll talk to you next time with
another brand new episode of the Truth here on the
allaw Nation Show.

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
Oh no, on the John Roka channel.

Speaker 1 (02:38:27):
I gotta get used to that fee
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