"PHILLIES Karen" Goes Crazy, Trump's Epstein Letter, Week 1 NFL Reactions

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yo, what's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode
of Spilled the Teequila. Here on the John Roka chan.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I almost forgot that we had the new video, had.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
To restart the video in the other video.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We are here all correct, and we got so much
to talk about here.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am John Roker.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Joint is always a by the King of Swagon himself winsday.
Hey Marshall Howl, are you winsted?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm good man, I am. I'm losing track of time.
I thought it was Monday, I sent. I sent somebody
a text me like, yeah, man, you know, uh you know,
uh messy lo. We we have a group chat we've
named every single day around ship talking and Mondays, and
they go, brother.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I said, oh, like, I just straight up, what's confused?
And someone was like, isn't that better than I mean,
the week is closer to being over. I was like, no,
it's kind of worse because now I realized I lost
a whole day.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh shit, it means you're a day behind. That's what
it means. You're thinking you're a day closer.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
We're a day behind, which is funny because I remember
watching Monday night football and theest screening I have to
go to today is on a Tuesday, and my brain
still comprehended this is a Monday. And I think part
of it is because my day job almost always work Mondays. Yeah,
worked yesterday, I started today. Then my brain just went

(01:40):
to this place of okay, we're starting the week.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And then I was like, oh, how are you, man,
I've never asked you that question. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm good, just busy all the time, working on stuff,
you know, catching up on everything. I wish my mind
wasn't as interested in so many topics as it is
every day.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
But back in my life every day, just flipping stuff
up and reading and catching up on all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And you know what, that's why I enjoy the show,
because this is the one show where I can just
talk about we can just talk about whatever the hell
we want to talk about. But yeah, a good overall,
you know, still keeping the weight off, still doing my thing,
and still hanging out with the lady outlaw and yeah, yeah,
that's basically it. You know, September begins, man, and the
movies finally are starting to ratchet up here, Wincid it

(02:24):
was getting a little boring the last few weeks, right,
you feel it.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
We hit our you know, our summer blockbusters, and then
there is always a decline in between that last block buster,
typically end of July or beginning of August through kind
of August, because it's people going back to school, football
starting back up. There's a dead zone of things happening
in the entertainment space, whether it be art related or

(02:50):
athletically related. So we're back at football back, you know,
movies back, like what we got The Long Walk, about
the Drop, we got the al Thomas Anderson movie About
to Draw.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, obviously Machine Corner, the Machine Trailer dropped today
and it comes out less than a week, three weeks,
it comes on three weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
We're we're we're moving, man. And then you know, I
hate spooky season. But the closer we get to that,
there's gonna be a whole bunch more you know, horror
movies and stuff dropping and blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So Halloween Horror Nights is happening in full swing over
their Universal Studios.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You want to talk about Halloween horn Nights, how about them?
Mavericks bro Hey, Horror Night, Come, Come, Come, October when
basketball starts.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
What happened now?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Is there something new? I don't know. I just I
still don't believe in the long term health of Anthony Davis.
And I don't know what Kyree's needs look like. And
Luca is out here looking jack like he you know,
is I don't even know what to put him up.
He looked he looks like the slimmer version of what
the Rock just did, like even slimmer like even like

(03:55):
his you know, like the Rock looks like cut and like,
you know what better yet our boy. But he put
his birthday photo up like that.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
That's crazy, Greg, You gotta slow down's left at some point,
Greg just gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
All I've ever wanted was abs roka, but he actually
did it.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
He gets any skinnier, he'll be inside a skeleton, not outside,
to be honest. But yeah, we're here to talk about
all things going on in the world of entertainment that
we want to talk about, and a lot of stuff
today is going to be focused on pop culture stories
that are happening, including the Phillies Karen stuff, but also
what that means because we're seeing more and more fans
starting to cross these lines. We saw the Lamar Jackson

(04:43):
push on the fan, pushing on Lamar Jackson Donrew Hopkins,
and then the reaction to that. We're also going to
get into this insane situation going on with this Donald
Trump Jeffrey Epstein letter and what that all meal?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Lets her shall we say?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
As these these the Epstein files were some the Epstein
files from the Epstein the State were released today. A
lot of conversations being going on around and we're gonna
talk Week one, NFL news, get into a little film
and TV news as well as it goes along. But
that's our plan here to cover over these next ninety minutes.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
You guys know how it works. Wins and I ripped
through these topics.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
We can take a lot of time on certain ones,
so we may not have time to get your questions
if they're later on in the day.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So you want to be setting in your super chats and.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Stream labs right now so they are on top of
the pile for us to get to before we finish
up our ninety minutes, for sure. So the stream labs
address is pinning the chatter description video and it's right
above Winston's head as well.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
So Winston, let's get into the first thing. Let's not
waste any time.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Let's go to Let's go to see about the Phillies Karen,
and see what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Let's take a look at this video. This has been
chewing up the internet. Man. People have a.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Lot of strong opinions over this, Karen. Let's make it
there she is flicking us off.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Hold on, there we go.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's she was did she really?

Speaker 5 (05:56):
So?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Here's what happened, is this, gentleman.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
The ball went into the stand No one has possession
of a ball when it goes into the stands. He
clearly bounced off her hands, so she didn't catch it.
It's fair game for everybody. You see four five different
people other than the Phillies Karen there jumping to get
the ball.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And then he gets the ball.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's a dad.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
He walks over to his cud.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Is it flipped the way I saw it because I
saw him go in the other direction.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, yes, flip probably gives it to it. And look
at that reaction. I mean, let's take a look. Just
grabbed him out of nowhere. I'm shrilled.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Just this is Halloween Hornit's reaction, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Ah, That's what that is. Right there, totally afraid. And look,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Someone's screaming, grabbing you like that, you're going to react
in a scared moment. You want to watch some funny reactions.
Go on TikTok and watch those scare scare pranks that
they do. People react in the strangest ways. And then
she's yelling at him and she's like, it's my ball.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It was all over the way over there. It's fair game.
And he's like, all right, you really want the ball?
You want to take it from my kid? It's his birthday?
Was the kid's birthday? Look at a kid being traumatized
by this woman yelling her had his dad, And then
he takes the ball out, gives the ball and goes
with a fucking baseball, A fucking baseball. The level of
privilege here, you have to have to be this upset

(07:10):
over a baseball that A isn't yours, B is fair game,
and see to rip it out of a kid's hands.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's that's a level.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Of privilege I do not understand. And then I think,
can you see that where she's angry? You could see
that right? So then and here she is flicking people
off as well. She flicked people off?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Where is it? I probably huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
They were booing her and then this was her response,
the big old flip the bird to the all. So
there's been a number of names that have come out.
Some woman had to go on a young Sorry, a
woman had to go on Facebook and say it wasn't
me because they had named her, and she said very
clearly it wasn't me. There's already already some skits popping
up around her that have been put on social media.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Your thoughts on this madness, Winston and what happened here?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I mean, look, people acting like assholes, like she didn't
say anything racist, she didn't say any you know, to
physically attack anybody. I mean she grabbed him so that
technically could assault. So there's that. But to me, there
is definitely levels to this, and she is a heinous
bitch she herself. The only reason I actually agree with

(08:19):
her getting ultimately fired because she was is apparently because
she is a school administrator, is that her literal job
is to support and do things for kids. If that
is how you're yelling at a random child that did
nothing wrong on their birthday and a father that again
did nothing wrong. It is a it is a wild ball,

(08:40):
and whoever gets it first, it's their ball unless they
decided to turn it over. You didn't have possession of it.
He didn't snatch it out of your hand, he didn't
slap you and take it. He got there first. You
were too slow. If you like, if you really are
that upset that you didn't get the ball, girl, then
then start doing like hit training in the park so
you're ready to go get the next home home run
that comes in your fading glove.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Winston.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So just by the name, like, I think someone doing
something like this is not worthy of getting fired on
a regular basis. It's definitely calls in a question her character.
But because she works with kids, I actually think that
that was the correct move by the whatever her employer was,
because again, if you were yelling at my child and

(09:25):
and me as a parent for such a minor effect,
what are you actually doing? But in that school, that
terrifies me. I don't want people like that around my
kid and determining what my kid's doing, because heaven forbid,
she actually is, Like I'm not saying that she is.
I don't have any evidence, but Heaven forbid she is
racist or homophobic or anything like that, and you know,

(09:46):
or or maybe she's really hard on young ladies and
stuff like that, and it's like, what were you wear
like if what if she's that type of person and
you were you were supposed to be molding young minds,
right if you got a teacher directly.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You were involved in the school system.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
So she yeah, Well, the gentleman, Drew Fetwell, that's the
name of the gentleman who was in the video here.
The dad, Drew Feltwell, he was, He told NBC Philadelphia
on Saturday, I pretty much just wanted her to go away.
I'm still in disbelief that she walked down there like that.
He was visiting from New Jersey. He lives now in

(10:18):
West Palm Beach, Florida, so he was he lives in
West pomp Beach, but he's.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Visiting from Jersey.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
He was there visiting probably his kid who he took
for his birthday to this place. And he was there
with his wife and two children. The Feltwell family was
in the left field stands when the Harrison Bait of
the Phillies centerfielder hit the home run. There several fans,
including feltwell, scrambled to find the ball. He said, I
was already ecstatic, like I got bater's home run ball

(10:43):
and I got to put it in my son's glove.
Then here she comes, he said. She just screamed in
my ear, that's my ball, like super loud. I jumped
out of my skin.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I said, you know you, like, why are you here?
Go away?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
And after brief exchange, he gave her the balls. What
he says, and he said, he said, I had a
fork in the road. Either do something I was probably
gonna regret, or be dad and show him how to
de escalate the situation.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So that's where I went.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I wasn't very happy that we had to give it
to her, but we can't win a situation like that,
And so pretty amazing stuff to see that reaction in
the spur of the moment to not get into her
face and start a whole brawl in the stands. Instead,
he ends up trying to de escalate, telling her go away,
she won't go away, gives her the ball, so she
goes away and stops the traumatization of her son having

(11:28):
to witness that kind of stuff, which is madness, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah? It really is, And I'm just doing a little
bit of a little bit more digging. It looks like
maybe that was a false claim about who was identified
there right, So may not she may not have actually been,
But but I stand by what I said. If yeah,
that was the case, then I don't then you clearly
have displayed that you shouldn't be working with kids. But

(11:54):
it sounds like maybe that that was an incorrect report
about who this woman is. Yeah, But either way, I
just I understand that as a general whole the world
right now, but especially here in America. But the world
is on edge, like very very on edge. But I
need everybody to take a deep breath, take a step back,

(12:18):
and literally think to yourself, if the roles were reversed,
am I actually okay with how I? Someone would be
acting as me towards me? If that makes sense, Like
if Roka, you were flipping out at me, for you
to take a second and put yourself in my shoes
and your response to me appropriate. I think if everybody

(12:41):
took that two seconds to think about that, a lot
of this shit would subside. But I think everybody is
so tired, so scared, so frustrated. We are seeing the
worst in people. And that's not an excuse for what
people are doing. They need to do better, But I
just that this seems to be happening more than normal.
Social media has been around for a while, we've seen

(13:03):
people show their ass for a while, but it seems to.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Be going up.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And it's not lost on me that while that's happening,
people's fear about the economy, people's fear about like healthcare,
people's fear about new wars, all the different things that
are happening right now, and and this weird fear of
like is the American experiment over.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Not to go off of a whole on.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Tangent, but people get real. We're getting to people get
real hyped up about their sports, for example, because it's
the one good thing they have. You say one little
bad thing about somebody's favorite artists. There beyonces, they're tailors,
they're nikkis, they're ready to slit your throat because again
that's the one thing bringing them some sort of joy.
And if you interfere with that, you have gone a

(13:47):
step too far. But again, take a step back. What's
actually happening here? Is it as bad as I'm thinking it?
Or do I have rose colored glasses on of rage. Yeah,
that's why, and that's how I'm responding. You know, well,
I thing it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Goes both ways.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
You say, like everybody takes takes things to take a
deep breath and look at the situation. Maybe I was
stressed out about their lives, and that's very fair. The
other angle could be that this is the growing privilege
that some people feel now because they feel emboldened by
a certain administration that's in the White House now, and
they feel that they can do whatever they want to
whoever they want, because they are now co opting that

(14:21):
power for themselves and putting them and being able to
yell at people and traumatized, like she didn't apologize to
the child.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Apparently she never she didn't go back to them and
say she was sorry.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
She happily got that ball, happily afflicts people off in
the stands, and apparently someone says there's a video out
there from behind her when she got back, and she
apparently told them that she soiled herself when the ball
came at her, so she deserved to get the ball.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's this kind of privilege that I think is an
lay entitlement.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Bro If the ball smack you in the eye and
you had a black eye. Yeah, you have an argument
to be like yo, bro, yeah, bro, yeah, I mean
do you seem a fai?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Can you give me the ball?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like I took one literally for the team. Can you
please give me the ball? But huh, I got scared
of people a little I can't control. But blood, I'm
a continent. Give it a ball, give it a shit.
I don't care you little child. You're gonna be ten
eleven and twelve few.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'm all right now like that, like, what are we doing?

Speaker 5 (15:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
What are legitimately doing?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's true, bro, But I do think there's happy endings here.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's share this that Harrison Bader did come out and
sign a bat for the kid afterwards because they knew
about it. The Phillies people went into the stands and
found him because they saw the video and there it
was there he is with his family as the Patwell
family there they signed the bathroom so he got way
more than a ball for the whole situation, which I
think is great.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
And also the dad.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I want to read what the dad said at the
end here, because people are threatening to go after this
person once they find her ripped the ball away from
her in person, and he said, please don't do anything
to that lady. That's the dad he said this, leave
it alone. You know, some he knows her and can
talk to her. That's different. But god, I don't want
people breaking into their house and stuff like that. The
internet already messed her up pretty good. So again, I

(16:08):
think this is a These are great words by this
guy who's handling this situation at every step of the
way in a really good positive way. In how he's
doing all of this. He didn't videotape this, he didn't
host the video. Like he was caught in the situation.
He de escalated to show his son, like, don't get
involved in fights. You don't need to do this kind
of stuff, especially with a woman. And then boom, you know,

(16:30):
please don't go after this lady because she's getting destroyed enough.
And the other side of it is there is a
sports company. Winston has offered a woman five thousand.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Dollars for the ball, but only if she signs it
with an apology.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I'm sorry didn't give it to the kid. I think
that that's hilarious. Yeah, man, I I like that's that's
the thing. I truly feel like because because the other
the other video that stuck out to me, and then
this is somebody actually having full on ill will that
I saw go viral was this black kid on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
He's a he's a.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Probably nineteen twenty something that streaming just nerdy shit like
Pokemon cards, yeah and like Marvel rifles whatever whatever. His
his his thing is right, and some white dude in
the Navy Boa was in his stream in the comments
constantly calling him en this and monkey that and all

(17:25):
sorts of horrores stuff. During a stream. Wow, this dude
puts out a viral TikTok where he goes, hey, so
and so that like you know, put like came into
my stream. Yeah, I know you actually work in the military.
I know that you're actually the Navy. Actually know that
what ship you're on it he like blanks out he
says it, but he like covers his mouth and blanks
out the sound.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Of what it is.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
He goes, I want you to understand something, like you
thought you were just gonna come in here and do
some racist to me, but nah, now that's not that's
not what's happening. Like what I'm probably gonna do is
I'm ending up.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Taking your job. Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I think it's pretty important that the men and women
that you serve with, I'm sure a lot of them black,
a lot of them have of other ethnicities, are aware
of the bigot that they're working with. So I'm not
gonna put your name out there. I do know you
know where you know, your mama stay, and your sister,
and your fiance who's pregnant right now. So I'm sure
losing your job isn't great, but maybe you'll stop going

(18:15):
around just decided to few hate everywhere. So people try
to be like, oh, oh, so now you're doing no no, no,
no doxing. Somebody is taking, yes, public information, but taking
it and then putting it on blasts for people go
find him. He didn't do any of that. He just
let it be known. I know who you are. You
will face consequences, and I'm going I'm just gonna go
to your superior. I'm not putting you on blasted in and
that can find you. Just know it was me? When when? When? When?

(18:38):
Ass it was me? I so to me, that is
in just it's it's you. Don't you don't necessarily need
to drag this person's name through the mud, but you
are gonna make sure that they are damn sure about
what Like, you're not getting away with this because I
think what it is the people that are entitled and
that afar type of way they expect you to rollover.

(19:01):
They literally expect you to down to them and their whims,
whether it be someone being like.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Why you get so upset about the N word, Like
it's just the word.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're the one that's like, well, but see you're saying
it because you're trying to even get a rise out
of me. Right, here's my rise. I'm not gonna scream,
I'm not gonna yell, but I will make sure you
face consequences.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's why I like that scene from
the Good Fight when del Roy Lindo is like, oh,
you want.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
To say the word?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Say the word?

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh, you guys want to see the video. Hold on,
I know where it is. I said it to some
people's Okay, I'll pull it up real quickly.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
All right. So people have been asking about the Iota
Berry thing.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
We are going to talk about that next for sure,
and I'm going to play that clipping. Then the ridiculous
apology from that far right Italian entertainment report.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
She really apologized, because it does sounds like I'm gonna
put it up there.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
We're gonna put it up and see if it's an
apology or not.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Are you I find the video now, I found it.
I am opening it right now. Okay, okay, let me see.
I need to screen share. There we go and then
TikTok and share the audios tab.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Okay, let me know if you can hear this, Let's
put it up. Let's go.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Okay, the white guy that called me over and over
again in my live stream the other night for no reason,
guess what, You're gonna get kicked out of the United
States Navy. You know how they tell us that we
should be careful what we do on social media because
there could be real life consequences. My name is real
life consequence. I've done a thorough background check, and now
I know everything about you. I know what little town
in Texas you're from. I know your name, your phone number,

(20:41):
your email address. I've seen your disciplinary records. I know
the names of all of your meaders, including your dead
mother and your daughter returns to next week and her
mother who's gonna have to pay for all the birthday
presents this year because you came into my live stream
and saw a black man who was talking about Pokemon
cards and video games, and you assumed, Yeah, he's not
gonna do anything if I call him slurs repeatedly, even
though he's trying to help me. Turns out, turns out

(21:03):
I am going to do something. Turns out there are
so many things I can do because I have all
the screenshots, I have all the recordings. I know that
after you left my live stream, you went into someone
else's and started talking about how much you love Jesus
and God in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
So and that evans to the church you go to
in this little town.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
We both know exactly which vote in the navy you
serve on, and I know the names of black sailors
that serve on the same boat as you, maybe as well,
but only after I send them to the Naval Inspector
General's office. Because I'm getting you fired. I'm getting you maybe.
There's nothing you can do to stop me. There is
no apology I will accept, There is no excuse I
will listen to.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
There is no money you could offer me.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
You're getting fired, and when you're working the graveyard shift
in an Amazon warehouse, and your back hurts and your
feet hurt, and those white bright lights are beating down.
Elder who still has his life ahead of him, walks
up to you and says.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Tell him the truth? Tell him about me.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Damn. I love this song. That is a great.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
I also don't know what better use of meat the
grams that instrumental than that. That was hop tier.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Y you dog like.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I absolutely loved everything about so Chris con stop.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, man as that that is brutal. But that's that's
the difference.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, If you're stupid and you think you have this
ability to do these things and this privilege to do
these things, there are way more intelligent people now who
are going to find you out, who are gonna expose
you and put you on blast.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
And there is a great.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Example of it, and that that guy's probably shaken in
his damn boots.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
That has eight million likes. I didn't even see how
many views, but like eight million likes of people just
just and and all of the comments just never been
prouder of a stranger. They got a picture of Olivia
Hope Kerry Washington talking about considerate handled U like they
had another they had another navy man in a uniform
of black. We appreciate your service. You just oh, it

(23:12):
was just so beautiful. And that's and that to me
is what I'm I am personally looking for going forward.
I'm not looking for people to start throwing hands. I'm
not looking for people to.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
That''s what they want. That's what they want, that's.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
What they want. It's but this idea of the saying
obviously is fuck around and find out. But the idea
that your actions have consequences. People because of the inniminity
of the Internet, kept thinking they can just do whatever
they want. But a people are not actually smart enough
to remain anonymous on the internet is the first thing,
right That's that's ask any woman in this chat, ask

(23:47):
your lady, as my lady, every woman is an FBI detective.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
And before they went on a date with us.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
In this modern era, Facebook, your Instagram, you'll LinkedIn, you'll TikTok,
you'll what name it. They have done the work. Okay,
they look like young thug and that and that meme
where he looks like he's talking to Batman. That that
literally they have done the work and they know everything
about you. So what makes you think that you're ass
trolling people however you want with your racism or homophoby

(24:12):
whatever is cannot be found.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
What makes you think that you in a very public
setting trying to mac on your your side piece ain't
gonna potentially get caught on the jumbo tron and they
ain't go find your ass you It's that is the
entitlement that's wild to me, right, it is? It is.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's either it's either this rich entitlement like the dude
from the astronomery magazine, or this dumb entitlement like this
woman at the Philly situation. It's like this level of entitlement,
it's growing more money. And what did white people say,
like under their breath when Obama became president? Oh shit,
some white people not all obviously, but somebody were like,
oh shit, now black people are gonna think like they
own this country and do whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I'm afraid that's exactly what they're doing now. Some of
them because of.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That, they're borrowing the power of Trump and his administration
to throw their private The giround is if white people
haven't ruled this country since its exemption.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's madness on so many levels, madness on so many.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Look, look, it doesn't have to get to the violent
element like Liam Neeson and taken. But this idea of
you can put it to bed, you know, and that's it.
I won't find you, I won't anything, but if you
but if you continue this route, I will find you,
and I will digitally kill you.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
I will not physically get but I will digitally on
a life.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, we're not quite done with this section of the show.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Let's move on to this which is really unsettling. Another
version of this kind of racism coming from this time
from a reporter in Europe here who is asking questions
about about Julia, asking questions about the Black Lives Matter movement.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And about about what's going on with me too and
all of that.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
And so she was asking questions of io it Abieri
or asking questions of Andrew Garfield and Julia Roberts.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Let's let's take a look at this.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
And uh, let me see if I can bring it up,
and then we can and then we can have a
conversation about it. Whereas, yeah, for sure, here this is
the apology and maybe this is it?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I always I never know which one's the right ones.
Sometimes I need to delete something. Is this it?

Speaker 6 (26:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
This is? Oh yeah, here it is here? It is
all right. So here's here's the video, and you guys
can see.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, so she gets asks and what we have to expect?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You see Andrew giving the looks and then he quickly turns.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
To he knows like, okay, look, and I wanted to
chime in first, right, and Julie is about to give
her the floor. But I think Julie, being a veteran
of these junkets, tries to save this reporter.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Can you repeat that? And I with your sunglasses on,
I can't tell which of us you're talking to.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
So so she's trying to save her by saying like,
can you repeat yourself?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And look at who the fuck you're talking to? And
you're directing this question.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's the hidden thing that she's trying to say by
telling her I can't tell you talk to the sunglasses
and so the question.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's it just the two white people and.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
What do you have to expect you?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And what shocked? Well, it's great.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, I know that that's not for me.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
And I don't know if it's purposeful.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
If it's not me, but I love that calling it out.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
I don't think it's done at all. I think maybe
hashtags might not be used as much or but I
do think that there's work being done by activists, by
people every day that's beautiful, important work that's not finished,
that's really really, really active for a reason, because this
world is really charged and that and that work isn't

(27:59):
finished up. Maybe if there's like not mainstream coverage in
the way that there might have been daily headlines and
the way that it might have been eight or so
years ago. But I don't think that it means that
the work is done.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
That's that's what.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
I'm The movements have been halted anyway. The movements are
still absolutely alive, as you say, just maybe not as
uh abel to covered yeah, or like witnessed as or
kind of magnified as much in this person.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, that's so you saw what he did right,
because the first question came in, he said, are you
asking a question about women and black people? Me the
white man? Nah?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, ladies, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I applaud Andrew for that for understanding, like I am
aware it's an ally move it's not to say that
what I'm thinking isn't interesting or important, but it's not
important comparatively. So I'm a quiet and I will defer
to you ladies, and even Julia because she first interview too,
and she was like, okay, then you do in Black
Lives Matter. She's like, okay, so I can address about

(29:10):
half of this question.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Let me ask you again, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Who you got sunglasses on? Were you talking to?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I just want to just want.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
To clarify I just.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Right, y'all. I took my invisibility cloak off.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I just wanna make sure I'm here.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, be like and then she delivers a wonderful response.
And the thing is, that's what's great. I owe is
one of these people that is unafraid and she will
walk into the fire no problem. And she's she's developing
a very strong sense of her place in Hollywood, and
so for her, I mean this is this is a
drunkeet with Julia Roberts and Andrew Garfield, and she is

(29:51):
gonna answer this question. And in a way, she might
also be kind of saving Julia and Andrew because if
their instinct was just to answer the question, let her
answered as a black woman to speak about both of
these movements because it applies to her equally. And then
Julia and Andrew chime in as ally should talking about
this stuff, and I thought that was genius of Io

(30:12):
and even tries to kind of even She even.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Zingser a little bit by saying, I don't know if you
didn't mean to address that to me. So the reporter
is Frederica Polydoro. And of course she played victim.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
About all of this, never mind that the question was
absolutely a politically charged right wing question meant to gab
a gotcha moment at the expense of these Hollywood actors.
I don't know how she got ap proved to be
at this junken, but they should fire the person that
approved her for being there. But anyway, she said following
an interview, I've been subjected to personal insults and attacks

(30:46):
because of a question that, for some reason, some reason,
was not well received by some members of the public.
I find it striking that those who and Justine accused
me of racism and consider themselves custodians of justice, find
acceptable violent language, a personal tax and cyber bullying. Well,
no one is condoning that of any real character. We're
just calling you out for your bullshit, O your consequences,

(31:08):
she likes to say, I clarify that, rather than focusing
on the thoughtful responses of Iota Barry, Julia Robertson, Trew Garfield,
the discussion continues solely on how I should have phrased
the question. All the contributions from those present were reported
in full in the published interview without any omissions. To date,
I am not aware of any protocol that dictates the
order of which questions must be asked in an interview.
Censoring or delegitimizing questions considered uncomfortable does not fall within

(31:30):
the practice of democracy.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Fuck off.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Only the Journalists Association is authorized to evaluate the work
of professionals.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Blah blah, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
So this is And she tries to clarify that she's
interviewed people from multiple backgrounds, multije, ethnic, matriarchical, all the
I'm made up.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Of a million different things.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I am also a.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Mon Nora ta, I've interviewed black people.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Come on, it's nonsense.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
This is the crap that a lot of people pull
on the right, is that they ask these questions knowing
full well they're trying to get a response that is
dangerous for the responder, and that they're trying to get
him into a gotcha moment or trap them. And when
they get called out, it's like, what about free speech?
What about democracy? What about this or that? When the
intention was never to be from that place, It was

(32:18):
to be from a place of purposeful trying to gotcha them,
and it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, that's funny because a number of things have come
out of it. I mean, first of all, it came
out that apparently this journalist has been known, like people
found posts of hers, that.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
She is of course neo Nazi.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
She's actually out here in these streets saying some pretty
wild shit. But let's just go for a second here.
As you know, you more so than me, but both
of us as journalists, this idea of we know very
goddamn well that the way in which.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
You position a question, who you're asking the.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Question too, in the setting that you're in, there's a
number of different reasons where all of that holds equal weight.
That your words, how you present them, all of that
has equal weight. And so this idea, again, you were
asking about two movements where only one of the three

(33:13):
people on that panel and speak to it from a
level of somebody potentially being marginalized. Therefore the the those
movements exist. That would like that makes more sense if
you had decided to ask io first and then say
and then continue on. I would also love to know

(33:35):
what you think. You know, Julia and Andrew, you know obviously,
how does it affect you as a woman, as a well,
how does it affect you as a man? Where do
you feel like you stand as it out and all
of a sudden you sound like you're genuine and you
give a shit. Instead you iced out the one that
could speak to all of it from a personal standpoint
of how it's affecting her, and then like you so

(33:59):
to that is literally like bad journalism one on one
that is that.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Is horrible journalism.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So to sit here and say none of y'all can
judge me, only the journalist society, not really, I mean that,
that's like saying, well, nobody can judge my acting performance,
only other people that are in sag and on the side,
how the fuck they can't? People could go that was
a bad performance. You were not good acting in that movie.
We all feel that way, Like Kiss my ass.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
You did this.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Because you wanted the general public to see your interview, right,
You don't get to pretend like we can't speak on
something if you're presenting it to us. You didn't present
this to the journalism society. You put it out in
your outlet, your check ass.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yep, And they found out, as you said Winston about
her social media activity, she follows Trump, she engages with
right wing counts, and has reposted even as lamophobic content
in her past. So there's not this journal journalistic neutrality
and ideological bent to you know, uh, democracy and free
speech and all that nonsense. It's nonsense. It's coded language

(35:06):
on purpose. It's coded on purpose. These are actions that
all of them are doing in their Bullshitwey Jennings does
it every night on CNN. He's a fucking clown for
this shit he does. And it's just nonsense. And we
we as a collective have to stop putting up with it.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
We really do. This is not a matter of like,
well they can allow allowed to speak.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
No destroy destroy destroy verbally right, not physically, not in
any way, shape or form, violently, just verbally call them out,
say you.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Can do whatever you want. Yes, you were you.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Were from a country that also and like to my knowledge,
I think France allows for freedom.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah, she's Italian.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, I believe for the most part, I know that
there was there was. There's some arguments right now in
the UK because I know some comedians had some really
heinous shit about uh trans women and got arrested for it,
for some tweets and stuff like that. I think they're
looking at it as a means to trying to rile
up a hate crime. That seems a little more justified

(36:05):
as far as that arrest. But I say all that
to say, you can say what you want, but again
it doesn't mean you're freedom of consequences. You didn't get arrested,
but people are allowed to tell you what they think
about what you decided to say.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Of course, and if you have any remote self analysis
of self awareness bone in your body, you will take
a step back, go you know what, I really messed
up here. People are right to call me out on this.
I should address it. But because of course she's a
hardcore right winger, she's.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Going to play the victim.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
That's their default tactic nowadays, and you see that from
a lot of people. By the way, She's a Golden
Globe voter, so I hope they kick her out of
the Golden Globes.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
For this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I look, man, I I I'll take her if I
come on here and I say, hey, man, I think
the chiefs are washed after watching that, you know that,
the Super Bowl, and then this week one thing.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, there are gonna be.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Some people are like, yeah, I kid them, and there's
gonna people like, how dare you talk about Lord Mahomes
and the dynasty that he has set fault for us
in the Great City of Kansas. You shall pay for
your treachery, you vile villain. That would be fair for
them to say that to me because I've decided to
intentionally poke the bear on exactly. You know what I'm saying, Like,

(37:16):
people need to understand when you say something, people are
allowed to respond. I do not agree that jumping to
violence is the of course, not never. But if I
want to cuss you out right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's fair. All right, Well, let's not
move away too much from Trump. Let's get into this
for a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Winston.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
This dropped the The Epstein estate released a bunch of
files that they had in.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Their own estate because of the request from Congress.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Here and the letter that our president said he did
not right, did not draw, and did not sign was
put out there a number of people already verifying that
it is, including Mary L.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Trump. I think this is hondreous.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
And then there was another picture here with people Epstein,
someone connected with actually essentially offering a fully depreciated woman
for twenty two five hundred dollars. The woman whose face
was covered over there and redacted, her lawyer came out
and spoke about how she was a young woman in
her twenties, was not trapped in not anything to do

(38:23):
with it. But it is absolutely disgusted that a letter
like this was in there. Quite a lot of entries
were in these files' birthday book that was put out there,
and all of them are joke, or a lot of
them rather are joking about Epstein's proclivity for underage girls.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's really unsettling.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
But the big thing that the right wing is screaming
about is that the signature is not Donald Trump's.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yet there's been.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Quite a few examples of it from people who have
put out examples of his signature from that time when
he was alleged to have written that letter, and they
all pretty much match.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
But of course the right wing is that they're not.
It's not there or not, and it's been forged somehow.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Twenty two years ago someone forged his letter, stuck it
in the birthday book, hoping that he'd be president for
a second time and that it would bring it out
after it got subpoena so they could take down Trump.
It's just stupid, utterly stupid, just like the FBI informant
shit was stupid.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
What are your thoughts about this?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
For me, the part that's the most interesting because I
believed that because it was the Times that initial was
at the Times of the journal that that initially reported
on this, and he sued ten billion, which which which
one was it?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
It was a Wall Street journal. He assuming for ten billion.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Dollars in billion, which is crazy, which ridiculous, never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
The most interesting thing to me is Mike Johnson clearly
got into junior stash because when he was calling him
an FBI informant, he was acting like he was full
on playing in the snow bro He just yet understand
way noybody is under in the streets is did you
not know the Trump was with FBI forman he actually
was in there. The minute came into his place. He
said no, no, no, you can't be here. You're a

(40:06):
bad person. He's from to mar A Lago. He was
a woman. And yet somehow, somehow do you think that
he would do something like that. That's a democratic oax's hoax.
Doesn't make any sense that I'm like, bro, take a
fucking breath. Like at one point he looked like it
was the office and it was Michael Scott looking directly
into the camera like are they buying it? Like it
was so bad, it was so bad, and sadly these

(40:31):
are the people in charge, Like, I don't know what
was worse, Mike Johnson doing that or RFK getting reamed
at the Senate heroes and clearly being called out on
all of the straight up lies he told during his
confirmation and when he gets called out of it. You've
been in the job for eight months. Why do you

(40:51):
not have that? Why wasn't that the first thing? Then
you could have easily made a statement about that you
can and then that would have been a oh oh
that's not good. No you said it as an as
an inconvenient as a is a convenient way to escapegoat
yourself from having to take responsibility for you putting millions

(41:13):
of people at risk. So, circling back to this whole thing,
I am not surprised. I always believed it was real.
I'm glad that now we it was have to be
delivered directly from the estate because of Congress, you know,
made like subpoenaing these these records and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Will it do anything?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I don't know that. I don't know that. I honestly
don't know because as much I hate calling him Deflondon,
but as much bullshit as he gets around, Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It helps when you have a willing party who are
willing to cover for you. Byron Donald's came out today
and said it's not He looked at it as not
his signature. Bert tim Burchett came out and said, oh,
I've never known him to draw stuff. Never mind that
Trump has drawn stuff throughout his entire life and auction
them off Charity, fog Horn, Leghorn and then when you
and then the other thing that came out was that
you had you had them John Mike Johnson walking right

(42:09):
by Minu Rajah, who asked him, and he's he's doing
the whole I'm too busy, I'm looking at my phone thing.
And then he says they they say it's not real.
They who the fuck is they? He wants a messy
because he's walking fast, doesn't been called on the carpet.
And then the White House folks when Carly the Levitt said,
they denied everything this is it's not a signature. It's
all a lie, it's all a hoax and whatever, and
then said the Daily Signal or whatever, which is a

(42:31):
massive right wing paper, had forensic analysts who told them
who said it wasn't. The thing is that I was
watching the deadline White House today and they called it
out when the lawyer's on there and said, the Department
of Justice has had access to all this information, so
they've already been crafting their responses to all of this
stuff as it comes out.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
So you see, you're seeing it now.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
The response is they've circled the wagons, as Chrisperman might
say about the Buffalo Bills fans, and they are absolutely
putting out their narratives to try to stop this. And
Trump even said it was a dead issue today when
he was at about NBC, so.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
That you don't get to decide. That's the thing that
you don't understand. At the end of the day, the
one thing that these politicians keep forgetting. But what it
takes then is people remembering this. They work for us. Yes,
they may be the ones that are putting the laws
into place and all that kind of stuff, but they
work for us. If you allow them to do whatever

(43:25):
they want, they will. You need to remind them of that. So, no,
you don't get to decide. It's a dead issue. If
people are like, no, there is more to this and
you need to fess up than you need to answer
for it. Pere Well, the thing.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Is, whatever your issues are for not wanting Kamala Harrison
it to be president, and for not wanting Biden, I
think every American has a right to decide who they
want to be president. Of course one percent. Whatever your
reasons are, whatever your issues are, are some of yours,
can you or some of your issues be suspect? Of course,
it's all up into interpretation. That being said, if you
really believe in what is happening here is your how

(43:58):
can your red line not be pedophilia? How can you
red line not be that like, Okay, fine, you know
what he did it, let's get him out of office.
There's still enough people here who are going to push
his agenda and they'll be fine. I think the hidden well,
what was that, Massey, the representative for the Repblican resentative
who's pushing this stuff. Massy said, like a lot of

(44:20):
these Republican representatives have set to him off the off
record that they are absolutely disgusted by the fact that
they have to defend what they see as pedophilia. But
they're a fair afraid of the Trump political machine. And
that's the hidden truth is the people here know they
have a powerful machine in Trump. The voter, the voters

(44:41):
who really want to put the worst elements of his
plan in place, know they have a thing, and they're
going to defend that because they know once he's gone,
there's no way anyone else is going to be able
to step up and the void and have the same
kind of effect that Trump is. And they're afraid that
they'll lose all these quote unquote gains that they've had.
And it's truly scary because I mean, this is we're
I've said this for ten years now. I think we're

(45:03):
getting closer and closer to a civil war. And it
really scares me.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Because him marching those troops into the cities, that's that's
him trying. That's really bad.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
He even said, you know, talking about going to war
with the city of Chicago. That's a quote that he
actually said before he tried to walk it back. But
then he's back on doing that. But let alone, you
put all of that together, and and and it's just
this random idea of I don't understand the hypocrisy if

(45:33):
let's say, the one reason you said why I went
for him no matter what, because I just feel like economically,
like I agree with those we need to make cuts,
we need to spend less. Okay, but you sign a
bill that is proven to spend what seven ten trillion
more dollars whatever, then maybe it's like three trillion over

(45:55):
ten years, whatever the number is, it's in the trillions.
Let alone, this ridiculous, this absolutely ridiculous decision to rename
the Department of the Department of War, which is now
wasting nine figures hundreds of millions of dollars, to essentially

(46:15):
go back and change all the letterhead, change signs all
over the building. Press releases website all of that nine
figures to rename it the Department of War. And on
top of that, he said he was going to be
the President of Peace, that he no longer wanted us
to get into unnecessary wars, And yet you are changing

(46:36):
the name to then tell people outside of this country
that we actually are back in the mindset of being
an aggressor. Like literally, think about the hypocrisy that's being presented,
and you're like, it's fine, You're just a snowflake. What
it just said, stuf spending money and he just wasted
nine figures out.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Of your.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
If I have to side with someone like Nick Fuentes,
I know we're in the upside down. Man came out
and absolutely skewered Trump and skewered Maga.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
He said, like, how can.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
You people, my people say in essence said this, like,
how can you guys be okay with all of this?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And he goes and now they want you to believe
he's an undercover cop. They think you're stupid. He literally
said all of it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I couldn't believe that I was signing with or I
thought he points of views made sense. Even Megan Kelly,
who I absolutely abhor said that it is unconstitutional for
Trump to be used in the military to go into
the city. So there are people even high up in
the Maga scale of power who are calling this out.
Now Charlie Kirk isn't and neither is Tim Boog He's
a moron, like they're not doing it. But there are

(47:43):
people on that side who are called in this nonsense out.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
And I unfortunately there's not an.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Election until twenty twenty six, which I know he's going
to try to shut down and control.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
And is that's what the reuton is. He got to
it early, yes, smart, because he lost the last midterms
in the middle of his first he knows, so he
knew that he had to do something and therefore went
and got one of his little puppets to go and
redistrict like crazy and set off a chain reaction, which
again then you're looking at more hypocrisy of Okay, Democrats going, well,

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we can't keep fighting fire by watching the house burn down.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
We need to do something.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
So when they counter with essentially the same thing, but
do it in an actually more constitutional way, because like California,
for example, it is now put on a measure for
the state to vote over yep, the people unlike Texas,
who just decided we made the decision. It's redistricted. These
five districts are essentially going to go right now, go
screw yourself. We're forcing you to do it exactly their minimum.
If they had done something along the lines of putting

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it on a ballot so that the people of the
state could vote on it, there would at least be
some more legitimacy there.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But they didn't do that. So the idea to.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Not call a spade a spade and go, oh, the
damns are doing whatever, bro, they did that shit first,
and to not go, oh, okay, have a point, but
to go, oh, no, stop worrying about your team. This
isn't the NFL, This is the This is the goddamn
country and the world that we're living in. And the
more you decide to make this about your team instead
of using real using the same energy and real common

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sense and arguments, you are dooming us all because you
want to be right. Instead of opening your god damn eyes.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Well, I think their eyes are open. I just think
they don't want to do it.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
It's open, but they definitely have them red ass glasses
on and everybody every flag looks red so none of
them are.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, exactly exactly people.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And I know I've seen them go, well, what if
Clinton's in the book, and it's like, good if Clinton's
in the book.

Speaker 9 (49:39):
I don't okay, And yeah, yeah, Democrat work their sult
gives a shit about what other Democrats are in there,
because A they're not president and.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
B they they're the Democrats will go hell yeah, throw
them in jail, we have no problem with.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
So that's the difference there, man.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
So yeah, the entire public policy of and responses to
all this stuff from their side of things is always, uh,
it's fake.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
That's that's their response, which is it's hilarious. But I
know where it comes from. Remember, what is the thing
he promised of all the time. We're gonna do so
much winning, We're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
So much, We're gonna be tired of winning.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
It's it's that is what they care about. They care
about winning. They don't actually care about doing what's right.
They care about winning.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
And look, man, huh.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Mean, while families are going broke, people are losing jobs,
jobs are not being added the numbers they promised, Prices
going up.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
It's a madhouse out the the number.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Like I was talking to some friends in a text
chat about this because like, hold on, let me, let
me pull the thing really fast. But it what the
Supreme Court agrees to review Trump's sprawling tariffs. And someone
brought up the idea of how TikTok's been inundated with
and and so is Instagram with reels of farmers talking
about how the generational farmers are starting to lose their

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farms due to the tariffs because their operations are not
profitable anymore. That like you're having people who this farm
has been in their family for generations, like multiple generations,
and like the sun. Now this woman is saying, like
my son will be the first one to not continue
the family business. They cannot afford it. And it's just

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one of those things where I'm just like, I, Yeah,
there's an empathetic side of me that obviously feels bad
seeing any human kind of suffer. There is also the
part of me that knows that this means bad things
for us and what the cost of food will be
and how I am also going to suffer. But my
black petty as is kind of like you have pushed

(51:41):
so hard for this, it's just what you kept saying
you wanted and now that you've got it, you don't
want it anymore? Like that is that that part of
me is just sitting back and sipping the tequila because
I'm just like, what did you think was going to happen?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Exactly what the thing was going to happen?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
All right, Well, gretfully, we have to move on from
this subject and move on to something a little more brighter,
because we don't want to leave it in a sad place.
Let's move on to the NFL. Bro the Week one
in the NFL, so much to talk about. So much
happened in this Week one. You had the Chiefs losing
to the Chargers. On Friday night, the Ravens collapsed to
the Bills in one of the most amazing games of
the weekend maybe ever, which included a fan pushing Lamar

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and Lamar pushing that fan down, and that fan has
subsequently been banned indefinitely from all Bills games and from
the NFL as a whole, any state as a whole.
I don't know if the video is true, but there's
a video of him wearing a neck brace apologizing for
the situation, which I'm gonna find and play and kickers
as well, causing some problems for their teams. Winston, what's

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the big stuff coming out of the NFL this weekend?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I mean, look, we were the Cowboys Eagles game was
after I saw El Boogie wanted to try and troll
me'm I'll be honest with you, man, like it's what
every Cowboy fan said. Why would you say the one
person that can actually get to the quarterback as a
generational pass for us talent. The only reason Jalen was

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able to do what he did clearly is because nobody
of MICUs caliber was there to stop him. And Jayden
looked fantastic. You know who did not look fantastic? The
rest of the Eagles, which literally put the team on
his back. And will they become up? Will they be
a playoff team and be high seeded? Sure, they've got
too much talent and stuff like that. I'm gonna say

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it right now, They're not getting back to the super Bowl.
That was enough for me to look at and go,
oh no, no, no that you know you took a
step back, man. You let too many people go on
the defense. It speaks to both a Dak being as
good as people said. Obviously, the moment is how does
he do in the big moments like the playoff games
and stuff like that. But doing what he needed to do.

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This team is going to have a pretty strong offense.
But I still think we probably missed the playoffs. I
can be honest about that.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Boys. Yeah, I thought your Cowboys played well, Bro, they
played really well.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
And I think that there are some holes on some
other teams we thought were going to be powerhouses that
are gonna take giants step backs as well.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Like I believe we play the Lions.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm not worried about the Lions, and like, losing both
coordinators clearly made them unravel, so I'm not worried about them.
But I just don't think that I'm going to need
to see a lot change from Philly between now and
the playoffs to feel confident at all that they're going
to do anything. I think the scariest team in the

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NFC by far is the Packers. I said that that
was that was terrifying to see Jordan playing well and
then Micah being unleashed and seem to.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
Be playing happy and like just just going off.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Bro. The Packers look terrifying, and I think that. I
think I stick with my pick. I think that the
Bucks will go to the Super Bowl. I I think
it'll be the Bucks and the Packers in the NFC
Championship game. Baker Mayfield genuinely is better than we realized,
and he handled business, got the New Got the New
Kid involved Ellie Back on Atlanta touchdown absolutely crazy. So

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I think that is going to be the two out
of the NFC. And then it looks like same different
day in the AFC, and maybe I've got to take
my step back on the Bills. Man, Why were you
able to allow the Ravens to abuse you for that long?
It speaks to Josh Allen's ability to make shit happen.
I actually think that their defense is worse than it

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was last year, and so now it's going to put
more on Josh to get there. I'm not saying Justice
don't have the sauce to do it, but if if
the goal is to win a title, your team should
be getting better, not worse. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I will push back on you on this one the
other ones.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I think your assessments are correct, although I think it's
going to be Packers and the Skins in the NFC
Championship or a commander.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Sorry, that may be Terry Bradshaw for a second.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
The AFC AFC side of things, I think I think
the Bills. I think you're when you're playing a team
like the Ravens with Lamar and Derrick Henry, like the
fact that you were able to eke that game out,
I think speaks volumes about you as a team. Now,
I hear you about the defense, but it is Lamar,
it is Zay Flowers. They've got DeAndre Hopkins, Derek Henry.

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This is not a team with like no no weapons.
They have a lot of weapons. So yes, I think
this was a lot of points to to to surrender
at home opening week. But I think they're gonna do
a lot better defensively against teams that aren't as stacked
or loaded as the Ravens, And arguably that may be
the AFC Championship is the Ravens versus Bills. Possibly when

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it's all said done in a rematch.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Brom Yeah, it'll it'll be interesting. But like again, I
think that there's a number of teams like now, I
need to see more out of Daniel Jones than playing
a very bad Eagles, I mean Dolphins team.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I agree with people are going way too crazy about that.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
But if, but if the Colts put together a string
of games and Daniel Jones really just needs to get
out of a dumpster fire that is New York and
actually can put something together. There's a decent amount of
talent there, and they seem to be rolling that the
Colts could be a thing.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
But like the Broncos game is going to be a
good barometer for where they're at right now.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Well, because that was the thing. The defense was good.
I am concerned now that bo Nicks has fully gone backwards.
I was really bad.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I'm kind of right, really bad.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
So like, but all you said, like, it's interesting to me.
I hear you. With the Bills, But again, like the
Cowboys offense got better, but our defense got worse. How
how much better are we going to be? I feel
the same way about the Bills your offense. The Bills
offense got better, but your defense got worse. So what
happens if like Joey b kind of had a little

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bit of a game, but they did finally win a
Week one game. The last time they won Week one
they went to the Super Bowl, Like it's this that
they finally got their act together again.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Are the Colts actually good?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
The Aaron Rodgers apparently went into the Lazarus pit, you know,
like with Raysha Ghul and out here just turning entire
games around, putting like three four touchdown strings in a
row in the last like two quarter and a half.
Like there's a number of killers in the AFC that
the Bills are going to have to not allow people

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to abuse them for three quarters.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I'm really excited because there aren't that many bad teams.
You know, in years past, Winston is like eight to
nine ten bad teams. There's not that many bad teams
in the NFL right now, so every game can be exciting.
Certainly the Steelers Jets game is proof of that. I
mean the Steelers defense. You have to ask questions of

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the Steelers. If you're allowing that many points to adjustin
Fields led the freaking Jets offense, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
That is a problem.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Or it could be that Justin Fields has finally found
the right home for him with the Jets and they're
gonna surprise some people get some victories and make some
noise this season.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
We'll see, but Rogers did look good.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I just think if you're asking Rogers to constantly be
the guy that bails you out much more than Josh Allen,
he is way too old to keep doing it at
this pace, and he's eventually gonna get swallowed up by
this whole thing and turn on the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Fully agree, I would need to see proof that Aaron
Rodgers could do that continuously over and over, like we've
seen now as Lebron is nearing his end of his career.
Lebron can still drop forty on you. Lebron won't do
that every night like he could in his prime. Lebron
can do that maybe once every three to four weeks.
Like you know what I'm saying, Is Aaron Rodgers able

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to do that every Sunday? Or can he do that
once a month? Like that's that's the question, because once
a month then gon't cut it. You kind of need
him to be able to do that seventy five percent
of the time if you're gonna if you're gonna pull
this off, and that's that's a that's a that's tall order.
But but I pushed back on you saying there were
no bad games there's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
A lot of bad teams. Teams, okay, there there are
a few, but they're not a lot like in years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Past, which the more that we realize, how many do
you think there are?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I think there's maybe four.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I'm really concerned that the Lions are bad now. I'm
very I'm very concerned that they that we have done
the incomplete flip flop yet again, where all of a
sudden it was like, hey, it's always the Packers and
the Bears, and the Packers and the Vikings. They was like,
oh ship, here comes the Lions and whatnot. And then
we thought for a second, Okay, well it's the lines
of the Bears nowpe They both got at least the

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Lions got a couple of years out of it. The
Bears got three quarters and then got done the business.
I guess Miami is terrible here, That's what I'm saying.
Here are the bad teams. I think that, in my opinion,
Dolphins are bad. I think the Giants are bad. But
it depends on how Jackson Dark played when he comes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
When he starts, which would be very soon because Russell
is not going to be able to do it. I
don't know if I I don't know if I buy
you on Detroit, but we'll see. I think Cleveland is bad,
but only they're gonna be saved by their defense if
they win any games this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
The Patriots Carolina is bad. For sure. Carolina is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
And that's maybe you know if Patriots are bad, Patron yea,
I guess the Patriots are bad. Dude, They are definitely bad.
And I will say this, the Niners are most likely
going to be bad. You just had way too many
injuries just pile up in Game one, Kittles on ir
Juwan Jennings do whatever he's dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
McCaffrey was going into that game questionable, so he played,
but he did off of twenty two carries only sixty
nine yards. Like, and Brock was good in the first drive,
and Brock was good in the last drive, every drive
in between. Actually saw the numbers on first things first
was terrible with bad so like, I don't think that
the Niners just got a good one off of the

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seat Hawks, which I think who.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Knows where they are?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
And it was week one and you're dealing with a
new quarterback, you're dealing with a new coordinator, the head
coach was there last year, Carrol last year, wasn't it?
He took a year sabbatical, he left, Model guy took
over last year. But they shipped everybody out. You got
rid of Gino, you traded away DK, you let Tyler

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Lockett go. So the only people you essentially kept on
the offense like that were Walker, Charmon A and in Jemba.
And then you're right, but then you brought in Cooper Cup,
who knows if he has anything left, and that you
tried to replace DK Metcalf with Cooper Cup, which is
Cooper Cup that won a Super Bowl. Sure, but we
saw the last two years that is not the Cooper

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Cup that is playing right now, you know. And I
don't trust the Rams either. A lot of talent there,
but Bro's effort at Stafford's back again, how good truly
is Deavonte Adams at this particular stage, Like he had
four for fifty one, that's genuinely not bad, but he

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was he was fifty percent on his sketches. He was
eight targets only four catches. So, like I, a lot
of talent on a lot of these teams, but between
injuries and new players and new situations or new coaches
or whatever. There's a lot of people that I got
big ask question marks about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
That's fair, there's but there's not a lot of teams
that I don't want to watch. Like I don't want
to watch the Giants, but I'll watch the Panthers because
I want to see if Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I want to see if last season those.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Like five or six games were anomaly or were they
or Canry carry them over?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
So I'm excited to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Jacksonville, I'm excited to see because I want to see
if this new coach will snap Trevor Lawrence and the
team like out of their doldrums and get something out
of them. Cleveland is a team I don't want to watch.
I have no interest in Cleveland, no offense to flat
go there. But I will say last night the Bears Vikings,
I'm now I want to see how these teams play.
I love that JJ showed moxie in that second half

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and led the team back and won the game. I
have questions about Caleb and his throwing. I have questions
of Caleb and his accuracy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
So I mean, was cooking bro and then something was
I think what it is for him? And you said
this years ago, and I thought you but maybe you
saw something that I didn't see. I worry about his
resolve because the minute things started going sideways, he started

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to shrink bro worry on his face.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I said it in our show, hate me all you want,
and I totally get it, because USA, I'm on the
other side of issues like this. But if you're running
into the stands and cry with your mom after it,
and I don't think you have the resolve to be
an NFL quarterback, I just don't hate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Me all you want, call me whatever name you want.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I just don't think that's the actions of a of
a strong NFL quarterback who can handle when things are
going bad. And You're right, Caleb shrank in that game
when the Vikings were coming back. And I'm gonna tell
you this, people gonna hate me saying this too. I
think Lamar has an element of it. Lamar has an
element of it. I mean, it's not a coincidence that
he is constantly on the wrong side of these big games,

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and it's just there's something about it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
A little different. And only because of this, I actually
am getting more worried about John than I am about Harball.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeahba yep.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I'm more worried about him for one reason, one reason only.
He's really always been more defensive minded.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
And people have said a million times, you're in a shootout,
you're dealing with arguably the only quarterback in this league
that you would say that, there's only three that you
would look at and go, okay, I'm going up against
them and it's a shootout. Now that you don't hand
them the ball, why did you punt? Your offense is
your is the star of your team right now? Your

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defense is okay, your offense is fantastic. Why did you
punt the ball? And let Josh Allen go? Thanks and
go win the game. Let your star do it. I
know Derek Henry just fumbled. Slap him, give him some
Gatorady to say, carry that ball up, and you were
King Henry. That is where I'm I don't put that
as much on Lamar. There have been moments where I would,

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but I put that more on Hardball to be like, bro,
that was a bad call.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
We know NFL quarterbacks will overcome the great ones, overcome
deficiencies with their defense, deficiencies with their special teams, and
if they're.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Having a bad game, they overcome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
They will teams to victory like Tom Brady won Super Bowls.
Sometimes they're not the greatest defense. Some does a great defense,
sometimes not the strongest defense.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Patrick Malomes that was the big knock on the Chiefs,
and their defense wasn't as strong in times. So that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Great quarterbacks take you to that next level past the defense.
The NFC change the Commanders last year Jaydon dan Our
run defense was dog shit. We were like thirtieth in
the NFL and we got to the NFC championship because
of our quarterback. That is massive. That is important. So
I think Lamar constantly being on the other end of
these things just signifies that he can't. He doesn't have

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that extra play, that extra thing that you need to
have to get you over there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
He's a great quarterback, great, I want can deal, I
want hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I just my only reason why I give Lamar just
the littlest bit of a pass is because he wasn't
then making crappy plays. Again. They were, they were good.
They were about to score again, even if it was
a field goal. They were about to score again, and
Handy stumbled that was not on Lamar he was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I agree, but people blame him for the game as
non sense.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
But like, what more do you want him to do?
He put up forty points. I'm saying he threw two
touchdowns and ran in one look at hundred nine yards
off of what fourteen and nineteen passing with two touchdowns
to the air and ran for seventy and a touchdown? Like, no,
he literally did his job. What this feels like to me?
This reminds me so much of that Cowboys Broncos game

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of Romo versus Peyton Manning, and Romo actually outdueled Peyton Manning. However, Yeah,
Peyton Manning's interception came right before halftime that the cow
was scored on. Romo's unfortunately came in the fourth quarter,
which then they were able to run out the clock
at that particular point. But Romo had put up five

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hundred and fifty yards at touchdouts through the air, Like
what at that point? That's not on him? Why did
the defense allow Peyton Manning to score five touchdowns of
the field goal?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Doing away on the quarterback? It is always, you know
how it is?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
It is always It's the most important position on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
If this was the Showdown and we were on a
team and you literally did everything and the only thing
that you had me on the team for was to
deal with MCU.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Questions in black movies. Yeah, and they go who.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Is the star of the Friday series? He was also
a rapper with NWA and I go, oh iced tea. Bro,
you would slap the shit out of me. You had
one job. That's why Coop is on the chopping block
right now and they're bringing other picures of the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
That's why Moody has also.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Apparently been cut from from the forty nine ers, because
you have one job that you've got, this one job.
Just slow Josh down enough that lambar putting up forty
points is enough.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Shanahan's reaction when Moody missed that first field goal and
like he was, like he said, he wanted to lose it.
And I'll tell you this, I noticed something watching the
games this weekend, like when guys fuck is first time
I know mass it happened last couple of years, but
the first time I noticed it. I watched a number
of people mess up over the weekend and immediately their

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teammates came over slapped them in the head and were
like trying to assuthe them and say it's okay, you'll
get him next time. Like I was really surprised by that,
because I grew up at a time when if you
fucked up, your teammates walked the fuck away from you
and did not touch you or.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Talk to you at all and were mad at you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I saw a lot of teammates walk up to these
kickers and console them, and I was really surprised. And coaches,
I was really surprised by that. It's a new NFL,
it's a new NFL, and that for better or worse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I think it also just depends.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I think if it's the if you were if you
were perfect all day and you shank something, I think
that's more to be like, ah, man, you'll get them.
I think also the there was a rookie kicker. I
can't remember which team who missed like two or three
kicks was it? I don't remember what team it was.
I donay about it. I also can see the teammates

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being like it's okay, bro, You're you'll be fine. You
got this, Like take a deep breath, it's game one,
you'll do this, Like ye, that makes sense to me.
But yeah, if if if you miss an all game,
well the fuck I got punched in the mouth. Why
can't you make a coddamn cat like, I don't blame
somebody getta but a rookies' first game. I'll give him.

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I'll give him a little benefit. What was it the Browns?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Maybe Andre Schmidt, Schmidt Schmidt, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, yeah, I felt bad for the kid. I was like, ah,
you got you got first team. Like Schador went over
to try and cheer him up, be like, bro, it's
not man, keep your head up, because again it's it's
it's it's your first game and you were doing flawlessly
and something happened, something broke your brain, and now you
can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
So I think that's why they waved Moody. I think
they knew that guy's broken. There's no fixing that guy.
He's done. Uh, the forty nine ers when they wave
Moody because it's they know he's done. He's broken, he's
mentally broken, and maybe he'll come back on another team whatever,
but he's got to do some thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Well quick quick stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Just to throw out there that I because when I
was just on ESP I don't know if you saw it.
The NFL says a jailing car Carter's ejection service is
one game suspension, so he will not be held another game.
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
I read that before we started the show, and I
was like, of course, because the Eagles are playing the
Chiefs and the last thing they.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Want they don't want to ruin their ratings. If they
were smart, they could have been like, we need to investigate,
what are you investigating? Spit on it like I could
see it. We all saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Being waved.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
And then lastly, Tyreek Hill has been accused of domestic
wife by a stranger.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Apparently the Dolphins are apparently low key shopping him around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
But I don't know what team takes, especially.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Just coming out as of today. That's that it'll be
interesting to see. I think what should probably happen is
if the Chiefs want to become relevant against it. You
lost Worthy and you know they said Hill it's day
to day, so that's good. But if you're just like,
worry now because we're she out for six games and
all that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I think you can go to the Chiefs. Back to
the Chiefs, that's very possible.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Or the Patriots. The Patriots have always been the place
that see.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
If you can see if the Chiefs can can make
some crazy magic happen and convince somehow that the Vikings
would never do this, but convinced yo, man, justin you
and your prom baby. Can you imagine that's that's the
Randy Moss to the Patriots trade all over again. If
they had all Justin Jefferson with Patrick Mahomes throwing in
the ball, that would be if.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
They had lost last night. I say maybe, but that
kid show resolve to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
That's the only reason that that's probably not gonna happen
because JJ pulled that out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
But you know, I just I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I was like, jamb says something, you're the old man
now yelling at how back in the day players were hardcore,
not soft broken that don't misinterpret what I said. I'm
just saying I've never I've never seen it quite the
way it is now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I felt good about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I was very happy to see them consoling these guys,
but I also know it's a brutal game. So you've
got to walk that line where like I can keep
consoling you, but after a while, if you keep messing up,
I can't have you on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
So that's the only thing I was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Maybe I didn't follow up by saying that I appreciated
seeing that for players. I'm just saying that's a different
NFL now. And I wonder if coaches have to kind
of limit themselves with their anger, because I think Shanahan
wanted to kill Jake Moody after that miss.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Anyway, we got to get to these questions a limited
time left here Matt Thomas's oh shit, Winston switch teams
laughed my ass off.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
All this was is I for those that knew, I
used to do a Law and Order sports victim unit. Yeah,
I used this as a workout shirt at this point.
So that's the only reason that this was on. This
was not because I give a shit about the Chargers.
I really don't. I find it funny that they beat
the Chiefs. But no, no, no, I'm not in any way,
shape or form jumping ship as much as I hate
Jerry Jones at this point, And Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Don't try to divert attention away from your Browns who lost.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Like remember what he said that the Browns owned Joe
Burrow Burrow, Joe Burrow tried to give you the game
and you couldn't take thy Malibert.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
No questions this time, just throwing out love and support.
Keep doing what you're doing. You guys, rock, Thank you,
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Doug code Man one two three four three four says
is that a Herbert shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Hell yeah, instant bolt up the Chargers up back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Maybe again, Yes it is. It was a workout shirt.
I do not support the Chargers in their organization. I
do think they are better than they were over the
last few years. I think at the you know, yeah,
I think Jim. I think Jim is. I think Jim
is actually helping turn Herbert into what everybody kept saying
about the raw talent that he has. I think we're

(01:15:23):
beginning to see him finally take that step up. And
I saw some analysts being like, he's Breton Manning, he
just did it the right situation. Well, they were talking
about what numbers of what he's been doing as a passer,
but he just has not had the right team or
coaching staff around him to do it. And now he's
starting to. He's got to show me something. You can't

(01:15:45):
just say that, you need to actually show me something now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
But I mean, I would argue Harball resuscitated Alex Smith's
career and turned Colin Kaepernick into a legitimate quarterback until
he left, and then we left.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
It's not a surprise, you know what happened, all right, Free.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Pancakes says, did you all see the racist commentary in
Julie Roberts after the Hunt Press?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yes, we spoke about it earlier. Brother, you can go back.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I'll put time codes up on this, but we did
speak about it, so just go back and find that
in the show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Thank you very much for the super chat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Scal Scalizi says, did you guys hear about the Greg
sipes WB animation on firing? He got canned after announced
he had Parkinson's. Been voicing beast Boy since the mid
two thousands. Now, scal sal you're leaving off other pertinent information,
which is that Greg has been posting some really weird
shit about health, about drinking your own urine, about there

(01:16:37):
was a lot that he posted that was like super
health conspiracy, RFK Junior type stuff. So yes, in a vacuum.
If they let him go because he announced he had Parkinson's,
that is horrible. However, if they looked at some of
his social media and as Winston said earlier, social media
matters to these companies and it's going to follow you,
and the company said, listen, we don't want to align

(01:16:59):
ourselves with these points of views. Then they have every
right as an employer to let him go. But I
don't know the full story that also came out after
the initial stories.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Yeah, well, a source close to the animated series Team
Titan Go was in the process of being recast due
to creative differences, and this decision wasn't made in response
to his health diagnosis revelation. Addition, Deadline hears that Cripes
was offered to voice a different character on the show,
for which he had already recorded lines for, in a
development deal for potentially starring Vehicle in the future. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I mean, it just it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
It sounds like, you know, there were some other stuff,
Like I stand by that the crazy thing is man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, it's always everything. Yeah yeah, yeah. So is there
a level.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Of okay, fine, hold off on firing him for a
week or two after that or something like that or something.
I don't know, but but it sounds like there was
other stuff there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
So he shared several conspiracy theories about vaccines on social media.
He also claimed that he got Parkinson's after quote they
released COVID on us uh and he you know, he
threw it out there for sympathy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
His firing here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
So I mean there's stuff to look at, he said
in a post about using coffee enemas to treat Parkinson's quote.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yet I can still perform as beast boy because he's
in me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
I create his voice, personality, the way he talks. So yeah,
there's there's more to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Look at here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
And I think that people have a right to or
a company has a right to go like, we don't
want to align ourselves with this stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:18:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Oh boy man, it's yea master's And mccau says r
K Junior will never take my skittles buying in bulk.
Wyleie Thompson's bolt up baby, My charges look good and
Herbert looked good out there. Travis Bull touchdown celebration was
the stupidest thing I've seen in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
I didn't see that Travis Hunter. Did he have a
bull touchdown? I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I honestly don't know Kelsey because Kelsey had a touchdown,
But Kelsey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Also, maybe maybe the Bowl touchdown is when he barreled
through Xavier Worthy and injured his number one receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
I don't know. I just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Yeah, that's when you know you've done in Week one
if you injured one of your own players.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I feel like it's not your fantastic neither Romo or
Prescott or Danny White. I'm old.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Oh stop it, Danny White who blew NFC championship games.
I'm old enough to remember Danny White and Dexter Manley
knocking him out of the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I'll tell you what we want.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
I finished off the Dallas Cowboys documentary Winston. That last
two episodes were super fucking depressing, but I finished them off.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
They were good, though, right, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I got.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
That's why I got so mad about the Mica trade
because there was some good will that came into my
body about him, Jimmy realizing, yes, the idea of people
just being stubborn, like their egos get in the way,
and I ruined something special with my friend, and we

(01:20:07):
could have been dominated for years and years and years,
right because of my ego. To then turn around a
week later and let his ego ship off a generational
talent yet again. So I just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
I hear you, man, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Let's see stream labs real quick. Hey, this is fantastic.
Three to fourteen hey spellers showing support and excited for
the NFL this year because as of right now, I
see a lot of good football teams who are ready
to make serious pushes for the playoffs, including my Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
There you go. Yeah, as I said, I think there's
a lot of good We'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
I think we are better than people expected. I am,
but I I am. We will see because I still think,
like the whole thing is, we need to be able
to stop the run. Okay, you contain Saquon a little bit.
You actually did a pretty good job of containing Saquon
every time he played in New York, and not half bad.

(01:21:04):
Most games against the Eagles, he would just get one
off late and that would be all she wrote. And
if you go back and look at it and be like, oh,
they held him to fifty five yards until he broke
off a sixty yard touchdown because you fell apart. So like,
I'm not saying the run defense didn't need to be fixed,
but you fully sacrificed your pass rush in the process. So, Okay,

(01:21:25):
do you know how many running courts Jayden Daniels likes
to run. Okay, we're playing the Chiefs at Thanksgiving. Guess
who likes to run? Patrick Mahomes like, what are we doing? Like,
you can get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah, I think you can't take anything away from that
game because of the loss of Jalen Carter, Like, I
think you can make an assessment.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Yet, So are the Cowboys good?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Did they find a fantastic new running back that they
can get behind. We'll see. I've got him on the
waiver wire right now to see if he clears waivers.
But we'll see. And I'll tell you this is honest, true.
It's not because of Winston, It's not because of that documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
It's because of Dak.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I'm kind of cheering for the Cowboys a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
And I know, as this Commanders fan is, it's crazy
for me to say that, But you know, back in
the day, I had a soft spot for Emmitt Smith,
and I have a little bit of a soft spot
for Dak for what he's been through.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
And I watched those.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Low's commercials and I kind of get a smile on
my face for this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
He's got a good energy. I said this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
About you and Jayden Daniels. It's weird for me to
go bro, I'm cheering for Jade and Daniels and the team
I hate the most in the NFL. But the kid
is so nice, yes, so good at what he does.
He's humble, he's hard working. He trying to out here
in court jujum, I like, I love that and not

(01:22:37):
Jayden's mama constantly like you better get away from that fast,
little girl. My festal girl is just as talented as
what she does as Jaden is. I think it'll be fine, Mam.
Chill out, really love and football and basketball. Okay, chill out.
But yeah, I'm getting.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
To that place with Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
I don't like it as much because I don't like
the Eagles winning Super Bowls. But yeah, set his piece
of Trump. I'm too busy. Sorry, no no things. Where's
his kango hats? Got his black levileges with his wife?
He doing a thing like he just he's a cool dude.
So I'm like you, I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Hate your team, I like you, but I like Jalen.
I know, fantastical says to also stupid people going to
be stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
They can't stop themselves. At least it makes it easier
to identify. Also, nothing surprises me anymore with this administration
and the people who.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Support the cover up of pedophiles. Yeah, I agree, man,
it's unsettling.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Uh, Matchel speaking of you a dack real quick? Okay,
you know he didn't the finance Latina to that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
That that's his that's his wife. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
I don't get involved in judging the attractiveness of the
wives of NFL players. But if he is doing that,
which you which I think we covered last year, more
power to him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
You don't watch soy sauce sports, so he always like
respectfully respectfully.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
I get involved. People get crazy about that, bat Thomas says.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Listen, I told you it wouldn't be a blow out,
But goddamn, what do the Browns have to do for
a kicker?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Anyways?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
How about Downton Abbey, either of you seeing it comes
out Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Lol? Had my screening last night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
There was no screening in here in San Diego for it,
at least from the organizations I'm a part of. So
but yes, I'm you know, yes, I'm a big Downton
happy fan.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I'll admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I'm looking forward to it. My friend went to see
it in DC and she said she was in tears
by the end. So I'm looking forward to it. I've
loved the series. Don't come, don't come for me, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Samuel says, who is the bigger piece of shit of
NFL MAGA player Brett Farva Antonio Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I would say Aaron Rodgers because he's currently playing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
I'm gonna go with Farv because one of them actually
then did harm to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
True, he constantly running his mouth. Yes, I can't stand him,
but it is what it is. Aaron Rodgers, same thing
running his mouth, but far straight up was a part
of a whole thing to steal money, like money for
poor folks. So one thousand percent far Ag agree. Matt's
back again.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Matt says, hey, whence you can finish that Twilight Watch
free right now? As they are playing NonStop The twilet
YouTube is a marathon for a full week, twenty four
to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
All you brother, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
He also says, fuck Baker Mayfield and fuck Deshaun Watson.
I hate that a receiver from the from the Ohio
State University has to catch passes from that imp and
makes him look good. My hatress for him stems from
pressure interactions.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Oh okay, yeah, but you know it was clearly your organization.
You yeah, Qara, Like you're like you have flashes here
and there, but like, look literally how you're treating Shador. Yeah,
I'm glad he made the team and you know he's
on the third string like that. But like, you guys
have a habit. There's a reason why you have your

(01:25:59):
curse where it's the same quarterback jersey and you just
keep adding a new name and crossing one out of
a This is it, This is it for real. This
is it for real? This is it for real? And
then you break them, every single one of them. Yeah
oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yeah, why do you want to blame the players, Matt,
It's all about your organization, Like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
He also is I hope my Browns make you eat
your words. Please.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
They're gonna win six games, maybe because they looked good
on Sunday, and that was without having Judkins a dumbass.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
They were fun and bullied the Bungals.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
I'm trying to see, let's see, they're they're about to go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
You couldn't take the they're about.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
To go oh to five to start the year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Bro. Problem, you're not beating the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
You're not beating the Packers, the only one that you
might be able to pull off. You might get two
games in the Lines and Vikings. How bad was that?
Was that a fluke with the Lions? Are they really
that bad? And then can JJ.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Keep it up?

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Like as the rookie? Hell am, you're gonna get to him.
But you are definitely losing these next two games. So
you look like you're starting at best two and three
at worst oh and five?

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah? Point, good point.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Uh, we had a couple more supertests and we gotta
go No, we gotta go Winston so real quick. Reggie
Brown says, the covers in aj Lee is a future
WrestleMania event.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Love to see it. I would love to see that AJS.
So it's so great to have her back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Are you monitoring that any kind of comments on that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Are you good ones all? Darren Wright says, Chase Brown
look good for the Bengals. Yeah, but Joe Burrow did?

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Did he? Did he look good? Because the boy was
twenty one carries for forty three yards?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yes, he got a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
He was averaging two yards per carry in his longest
was an eight yard run.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
I don't know if he looked that good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Those numbers do not speak to it. I did not
watch that game in full, but that those numbers do
not speak well for mister Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
One hundred and thirteen yards passing Joe Burrow. That's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I mean, the one thing I will give it division
game in the Browns defense has been their strong suit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
So fine, but still yeah, all right, that's everything.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
There he goes, all stream labs, all super chats, all
the top, and thank you to everyone who joined us today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Thank you for the lively chat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Well over two hundred of you joining us for a
majority of it. Winstay let people know what they can
find you. What'ch guy going on? Brother mayn You.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Can find me at the Swagy Blurt on all platforms here,
on YouTube, on twitch, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
I did a blurred breakdown yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
We discussed the Street Fighter full cast teaser, which was
a lot of fun. You know, I've talked about all
sorts of stuff. My brain is slipping right now, so
go and check that out on the replay. You will
see me on Capes and Cows on Friday over on
the Christian Harlow channel. I also did a review or
reaction with Christian which I don't know when it's up,

(01:28:37):
but keep an eye out because that should be up soon.
I'll be back here next Tuesday and every Tuesday now
listeners coming up. And then other than that, just keep
an eyeut on my channel as I got other stuff
dropping this week as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Boom, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
And all the shows. All right, thanks everybody to take
care of yourselves, be well.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
And all I was gonna say, gonna say super quick,
speaking of things that are happening. My out of the
theater reaction for the Longest Walk will be out later
this evening, so with the Long Walk excuse long walk?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Yeah yeah, good film. I like it. I hope you
like it too. Winstay all right, peace everybody,

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