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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh what's up everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to a brand new episode of Spilled the Tequila
here on the.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Soon to be John Roka Channel. Thank you so much.
Ranking up, will you know? Switching it up? Boy? I
am switching it up.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Starting Thursday, it will officially be the John Roka Channel.
The Outlaw Nation is going away. It will still be
that jump.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
But you know, it was time to make the move.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I had a few people suggested to me that you know,
we could, uh you probably outlawn is kind of maybe
a little bit out of date now, so we're making
the moves.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know if it's gonna work, but I'm gonna
try it. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So, uh but we are here still on the Outlaw
Nation for this episode of Spilled the Tequila.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I am John Roka. That is the King Swag himself,
Winston A.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Marshall, and we did miss last week, Winston, so it's
great to see how you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
How are things good? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I am uh, you know, I just took my last
vacation of the year. Okay, I am going to uh
to Dallas next week to visit my dad. Uh you know,
he's just he's getting up there. Yeah, so I just
need to check on him. But other than that, I'm
I'm here. I went to Palm Springs for the fourth

(01:28):
we normally that's normally when we go. We kind of
fluctuate depending on on everybody's schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
But it's been good.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Man. I came back, did a did a nice long
stream yesterday, So shout out to anybody that was in there.
Actually debated about you, my friend for a lot bit. Yeah,
it was coming up.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Someone was saying you were just ripping James Gunn a new.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Asshole and and I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
And I was just curious as to what it was.
And I guess the the person specifically, I don't remember.
I believe their their handle was just x. They were
specifically saying that, I guess you were upset based off
of like his old tweets and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Like that, no old tweets, his ten year old tweets.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
The one that that was the main thing they were
pushing was like, oh, so we're just supporting people to
make predator jokes and rape jokes and blah blah blah.
And I was like, I feel like Rocus known about that,
and if he's really complaining about that, then he and
him will have a nice little debate tomorrow of like
we already went through this, went back down this path.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
This is what happens sometimes on streams.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Is that people like create a narrative and they fabricate
something because their minds just landed on what they think
someone said, and then they just put it out there.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Jamel Hill went.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Through this recently with Steven A. Smith right he was
on this right wing podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Smith was asked about Jammel Hill supposedly saying that if
angel Rees keeps going how she's going, she's going to
be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
She never said that.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
She never said that, and that right wing podcas Cast
didn't check their sources, and stephen A just believe this person,
and they went on in his whole thing about it,
and Jamell like never said it.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
So that's that's funny and so like to that point,
like I was just like, look, I know John well enough,
and if if that's if that's legitimately his stance right now,
that's weird. Fortunately I do the show with him tomorrow.
I'm gonna bring it up. I'm gonna ask some questions
because I'm like, I'm gonna be like, brouh. Do you

(03:31):
ever remember were talking about this, like a lot of
days we talk about that ship, talking about who we
got fired, who should have been fired. Oh, I feel
like maggot just pulled and pulled a ripcord, so like
it became like a whole thing about that, And I
was just like because then they were like, oh so
you just you know whatever, James the person said to me.
They're like, well, James Gunn will certainly hide your ass now,
and I was like, it isn't about hiring anybody. It's

(03:51):
a scenario of the other big difference between say, James
Gunn and Gina Carno. James Gunn, when confronted with it,
was like, this was not I did it at this time.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's not an excuse.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm sorry about it and moved on and has not
done that same shit since, whereas Gina Carno double triple,
quadrupled down. Those are the big differences between when people
do stuff like it. That's why I get up Nick
Bosa's ass, because he had all that racist shit and
then continues to be a racist prick in various little
scenarios so he don't get no pass from me because
he's not showing that he's actually growing as a person.

(04:24):
The same thing could be said, and I love how
we already got in the middle of the topic. The
same thing could be said about like Michael Vick. If
Michael Vick had got out of prison after the dog
stuff and then continue to be a piece of shit,
that's a different story. What pisses me off is that
people cannot look at the fact that both A, he
served his time and b has been the biggest advocate
to prevent black and brown communities from continuing to abuse,

(04:46):
and he is at the forefront of stopping that shit.
So either we believe in the idea of people growing
and getting better and giving them the space to do that,
or we don't. But I need people to miss me
with that shit. Won't wear the other You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I hear you, brother.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I just I want to assure you I never had
an issue with any of that stuff. I think someone
took someone I said on the Christian Harloff Show where
I had compared because Christian was like, well, I mean,
you go after these people, and I go but I
go after people equally like, I feel like I'm across
the board, right, And I said, look, I went after
Brian Singer at Collider, which got me in trouble because

(05:21):
they were like, oh my god, I'll say that, and
it was because he did this terrible shit, and I
was like, I'm not comparing James Gunn's current comments on
interviews about Superman to that, but I'm saying I'm not
afraid to go after people in the industry, so don't
care about connections and.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
All of that. So it's not really my jam. I
don't live in LA it doesn't affect my life in
any way, shape or form I did or anything.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I think maybe someone took that and meant the well,
when James did that stuff, it was comparable with Brian
Singer's accusations. Maybe they correlated those two, even though I
stressed very clearly that I was not comparing their actions.
I just meant that I didn't have a fear of
going after people. Certainly, they were currently the flavor of
the month.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
So let me ask, because obviously you do, like, were
harder working than to fucking Ryan Seacrest, bro, you do
like twenty shows a day, what specifically, then, were you
upset about Because I did see you out of theater reaction.
It sounds like you really enjoyed the movie, but it
sounds like you had an issue with you you have
an issue with the marketing.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, I have issued with James Gunn's rollout of the film,
and for that, I mean that he has made himself
the focal point of the r campaign. Okay, So for me,
I found that to be a little bit egotistical, and
so I called that out. And because I feel like
Korn Sweat is the lead, Nicholas Holt is the co lead,

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Rachel Brosnan.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Is the co lead.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Nicholas Holt's well known, bros NaN's pretty well known, Korn
Sweat not so much. So I think those three people
should have been at the forefront in numerous interviews, doing
a Rolling Stone interview, doing all this kind of stuff,
and they are felt like yeah, and they weren't. And
I felt like James and that four picture black and
white Rolling Stone things like all of that was kissing
his ass. And to me, I felt like, you are,

(07:08):
You're making this about you and not about the movie
and not about the actors who are in the movie.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So that was my issues that I was having over
the last few things. I can I can understand that.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I would personally disagree in the sense that when you
think about trying to sell movies, there's like you have
an actor. Even if the actor is like fantastic in it,
they will a lot of times be like you know.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
From the producers that brought you so and so or
the director of blah blah.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Like it feels like in this case, since James Gunn
is by far and away the biggest star out of
everybody involved in this, and it's the kickoff for the universe,
and so that being almost under his umbrella, I could
see that if he does that every project going forward,
we need to have a complete Now I'm on your page,
but I think knowing that he wrote, directed this and
is the head of the studio, yeah, and that's what

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he wants to do for this, I could see if
I think if Corn Sweat was a bigger actor, because
this movie is Superman.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Obviously, Lowis Lane.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Is important, Lex Luthor is important. But if if Davin
kurtz Up was already a bigger star, I think I
would be in page as you because he's not there yet.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
This is his coming out party.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
It actually makes a little more sense to me to
put James at the forefront.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
But that's just my two cents now that I know.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I was like, I sometimes get mad at Roka, but
not like this, Like there's no way, there's no way
doing that, And so this person kept going.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I was like, I, man, you could, you could argue.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
With Mama, but yeah, I'm still here, I believe.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And the thing is, I don't think I've I've gotten
one message from anyone named X about anything, but he's
gonna go on your stream and go upset.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
For half a second, I was like, there's no way
that Roka went full Kevin Durant and made a burner
and is just.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Arguing with me on my stream.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
But he knows he could just literally hit me up.
But I'd be like, let me just let him in
or call me or there was no way.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
That did stop Kwanowski yesterday when he called me out
on Twitter, and I was like, you have my phone number,
you can you call.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
We gotta do this thing public. I love Michael.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I know Michael's passionate, So I'm never gonna faull to Kalanowski.
It's for that kind of stuff. But like, I was, like,
you have my number, Kallen.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think I think what the argument is at the
end of the day, and truthfully, because it's funny, you're right,
he does. Everybody could have called you. I think where
that probably came from is a lot of the same.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I always bring it back to Caitlyn and Angel, but
it's easier to do that because that was something that
was at the forefront and everybody kind of understands. I
think it's when you see the amount of pure hate,
whether it be Snyder Bros. Pissed off that the Snyder
verse is gone, whether it be Foxes being like.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
They said, it's an immigrant story, stop trying.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
To force her Like did you see the fox this
shit where they were talking about.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, I heard the back of his cape, says MS thirteen. Giggle, snicker, snicker, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
The most unfunny people on the planet. Bro, It's the
saddest shit effort that they are the most unfunny.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
They have to find something. This is the thing.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
The right wing has to find something.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
To be upset about.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
They have to constantly create scenarios in order to keep you.
They are a content creator. Fox News is a content creator.
It is not a news organization. It is a content
creator kind of like. And they've given the blueprints. All
those anti woke YouTube channels that you saw pop up.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Over the last few years.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
They follow Fox News's blueprint. Find whatever the hell we
can construe to be offensive or woke, we will coct
it out of thin air in order to get people
to watch our stuff and engage in ourselves so we
can make money off that stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's all a grift. It's all a grift.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And so the same thing and the fact that they're
acting like they're surprised. Zack Snyder literally told the immigrant
story in Man of Steel. It was absolutely That's just
one of the reasons why I love it so much.
It is absolutely an immigrant story. It's very blatantly an
immigrant story dealing with what it would be like to
have someone who is an alien go in the Midwest
that is predominantly leaning one direction politically, and how they

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would react to it, how the government would be nervous,
like we're seeing now about immigrants and whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So it was very clear what it was. This is
not that much. This is not really this movie.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I can say, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spoil
the movie, but it doesn't in any way, shape or
form lean into it in the way that Man of
steeled it. It's not taking anything away from the movie,
but it is an element of the film for sure.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
So to me, I thought this was a ridiculous thing
for people to be upset about it.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
It was just so funny because I was like, yeah,
do you do you know what Superman's origin story is?
My guy, he is not a citizen of this planet.
He was randomly thrust here by his parents because they
were like, there is literally no life. It is too
dangerous for you to stay here, So we're going to

(11:56):
ship you off as a refugee to another planet and
hopefully they will they take care of you and take
you into your own And then he was raised as
one of us. Lord knows, mom, Pap can't probably broke.
I saw someone tweet this broke so many damn laws
for him, the forged papers, for this dude, for him
to do that. It's literally an immigrant story, a refugee story,

(12:19):
and you go, I just the level of stupidity that
we have hit is super saying God levels, okay, are
are are just just insane, how dumb we have gotten
that people legitimately are going to sit there and say

(12:42):
those things because the same thing was true with Ironheart.
How you go say she's a criminal, she killed someone.
Tony was a weapons dealer. He used to have people
killed by the thousands. And then when he showed back up,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Think he had people killed. People died.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, his his miss but specifically his missiles did that.
But when I take that a step further, he then
makes his mark to armor, goes back to the town
where he was kidnapped.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And murders left and right.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
People thought that the little missiles she shot into the tank,
they just got a little tickle in there. They were
just they were just in there, just getting tickled by
just all these little feathers.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh my god. Haha, I can't shoot a tank anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
There's my rant.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
There you go, you.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Got it, he said, not really, fire, Nico, there's that too,
fied Nico Harrison.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Nico Harrison, No, no, no, yeah, no, the thing is.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And some people commented to and everyone, it was really nice,
like my out of theater reaction, I'm very happy about
It's almost at seventy thousand views, which is really nice.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I never nam and I needed.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
To get to a press one and not the one
I'm going to today.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I never get that kind of of course, Christian, who
looks to keep me under his thumb, was like, well,
you're lucky In didn't put mine out first, because they
might would have totally buried yours.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And it's a ball busting thing that he loves to do,
but who knows.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So either way, I'm very happy that that it did
what it did. But like a lot of people were like,
I'm so glad you put aside your James Gun hate.
And the thing is, it's it's not a hate, it's
just calling things out from my point of view. And
I felt like he was making it too much about
him now, And I said this a number of times.
It's not gonna affect how I see the movie because

(14:27):
it can separate them both. You know, there are a
lot of there are a lot of asshole directors who
are the history of film who still make great movies.
Charlie Chaplin was an a hole, john Ford was an
a hole. Alfred Hitchcock was an a hole and a
Leary a hole at that. So like There's there's a
lot of the history of Hollywood of directors who maybe
weren't the best or gave the best interviews, or were egotistical.

(14:48):
Lord knows, you need that to succeed in this business.
Uh So calling it out is calling it out. But
I never said anything about the man personal. Somebody said
it was personal. I'm like, I didn't talk about the
man's family. His wife is extended family. Say it was
just that some of the comments he was making made
it clear to me that he's going to a very
healthy opinion of himself and he may be.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Overshadowing the film or these actors.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But after seeing the film now, as you said, now,
with the context of the movie, I think Corn Sweat
is going to be a name people are talking about
for a long time.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Brosan made the.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Leap, Nicholas Holpe made the leap as well, and so
I think going when the sequel comes out, because this
is gonna blow up at the box arms, I have
just no doubt.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, I hope the.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Next PR campaign for this, for the next film studment
will be much more about them coming front and center
and less about James Gunn coming front and center.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm sure the point that he had to sell it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I just wish he balanced that a little bit more
with the other actor.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Go ahead, Sorry, no, no, no, I was like, I'm
sure he will in the future. I just think again,
part of it was, you know, his baby, his studio.
Not like even though Rachel Brosahan and Nicholas will have
been working for a while, I wouldn't consider them a
listers until probably this movie. This will probably do the
thing that pushed them over the edge. You know what

(16:07):
I'm saying, This will make Korn Sweat an automatic a lister,
especially if the character sticks around. If you if this
is if somehow, which I doubt it is, somehow a
one and done, we're having a different conversation. But considering
that means he will be the face of Superman for
a while, he will jump to a list status and
James Gunn will not need to be at the forefront
of anything like that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
The reason, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, the only thing I was gonna say, because if
you think about it, there wasn't a full game plan
yet for the MCU and Iron Man came out, and
it was one of those things where it's like you
led kind of with Robert Dunney Junior and then with Favreau.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
This is kind of the kind of you left you
leaned with those two.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
But Figi also was not a name. Like, if we're
being real, he was not a household name. James Gunn
is a household name. Is the only other thing, which
is why I don't have a problem with it. If
this was like a first time director, like, yeah, baby,
I'm James Gunn, I did all this shit.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
What do you know about that? Now?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I'm like, who are you and what are you doing?
But in this case you leave with your biggest start.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah. But Ryan Kugler wasn't a household name. Fu Fales Station.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like twelve people saw that movie, So I mean, like,
it was not like and he got yeah, of course
it is a great quality. But he got to the
front of the Black Panther conversation right, and he took
the reins and he made it and all of that.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It wasn't Shadwick, it wasn't anyone else agree it was him.
It was front.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But I'm saying it does happen. There's a way to
do it, and I think the way he did it
was much more respectful and it wasn't about Ryan Kugler.
It was about Black Panther and the actors, and I
think a little bit James slid into his own ass
kissing and then him saying like, oh, the.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Film doesn't need to make seven hundred million dollars to
be a success.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I thought was, you're kind of underpromising to over deliver here,
and I think you do have to make seven hundred
million dollars. I think absolutely you have to make.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Some do and you don't. I guess why you don't
is what's what's final budget? What was the final budget?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Probably well, if you add marketing, it's probably somewhere closer
to two fifty to three hundred. So you've got to
make seven to see profit, the real profit, so.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Seem real profit. But what you what you need enough?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Is the budget? You need enough?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think the other You're right he's hedging his bed,
and that he is aware of how crowded everything is,
because I'm sure this interview happened in the middle of
stupid Jurassic World getting three hundred and fifty or whatever
the hell it did. It's opening weekend, which doesn't make sense,
and then you have fantastic for nipping at your heels
so we can understand him hedging the bed of like, yo, bro,

(18:36):
if we clear six fifty, if we clear six hundred,
like I would prefer we clear seven eight a billion.
But if we clear six, then clearly there's enough thirst
for this that we can move forward. There is definitely
a tier of hey man, we won the game at
a buzzer beater. Hey man, we won the game by seven,
and yo, we had a blowout, Like obviously he wants

(18:58):
to blow out. But if they get it that the
buzzer beater, that's enough to at least continue. That's that
is the argument I would make. But Warner Brothers needs
this to be a blowout.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's probably a great point that it's more that Warner
Brothers needs this to be an eight hundred million dollar
to a billion dollar movie because of the egg on
their face with DC stuff before And look, both Superman
Returns and Man of Steel underperformed as the most recent
Superhero sorry recent Superman movies, And so you kind of

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want this one to knock it out of the park financially,
so that you're sure that public, the public wants to
continue this this James Gun universe. And so yeah, I get,
you know, James aing, But like to me, you gotta
be honest. You know, you know what WB wants, you
know what Zaslov wants, so you can say it doesn't
have to do this, but it does have to do this,

(19:50):
And so it's a I think that's a little where
at times he gets a little disingenuous. That's what I
call out when I'm when I'm said.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
I still, I still hear you.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I just I would be a little wor worried about
because I'm just thinking from like a pr standpoint, if
the leader of everything, not just this movie, but the
leader of everything is like this has to clear seven
hundred and fifty million, like that's that actually sends less
of a vote of confidence because now there's a desperation,
you know what I'm saying. So I think it give

(20:20):
for me, it gives off the air of no man, Look,
we made a good ass movie. We think people are
gonna like it. Of course we wanted to clear seven
hundred but it doesn't have to. We just we just
need people to go and see the film. That is
more the the how you would want to answer that question,
I would think.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It a little bit and I would just not I'll
just say, we're just focusing. We just we feel we've
made a great movie and we hope a lot of
people come out to see it. The box office will
be with the box office will be but we just
are proud of this movie. So they were not even
addressing the fact that it's the seven hundred millions, like,
but he said it was nonsense. The fact that he

(20:58):
called it out is nonsense. I think it's a combative approach,
and you don't have to take a combative approach.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
And I know that John roc is saying that, but
you don't have to.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Take That's actually very funny to me, and I clock that.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I was like, I know you not talking, bitch, but studio,
I'm not gonna be combative.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Let me just tell you got to eat your pride
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
No for sure, but I but all that being said,
I I I'm very much looking forward to it. My
my showing is at seven o'clock my time. So how
long what's the run time?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Two hours? And there's a two post credit scenes, so
you want to stecch it right?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Thank you for telling me that, So then y'all can
expect like I've already h cut my my thumbnail.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
So and I'm going to pre write the description you take.
Do you wait? What do you mean you already cut you?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
You take like I take, I take a, I take
a Holy shit, I take a and I take a
bitch like I take three of those photos. I make
three thumbnails, and I bring them with me and depending
on how I feel, then I just post that one up.
So because the one thing I did learn from Christian
and I will give him a lot of credit for
these out of the theater reactions in one thousand percent
of speed. So the faster you can get it out,

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the better. And if I can already have an eye
catching thumbnail, I have it pre in the chamber, so
it's just record my reaction.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Get it out right, right, I hear you, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I always edit mine so because I can, because I
just we'll keep recording until I'm happy with it and
then I come home. But I hear you, yeah, I
try to get it out within thirty to forty five
minutes to leave in the theater because leaders are close
to my house so I can get home in time
to edit.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
But yeah, you're right, speed, Christians, right.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Speed is the speed is the thing there so that's
why as soon as I was done with Superman Exus
ten minutes away the theater, I was immediately home.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And it was up in fifteen minutes. I got it.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
There you go. Yeah anyway, Yeah, so we're we're twenty
over twenty almost twenty five minutes into the show. Thank
you all so much for joining us. I apologize we
started late. I got my wires crossed and I thought
we were doing four thirty to six, but I know
we do four to five thirty, but it been it'd
been a week, so I just kind of forgot.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So my apologies y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But the stream labs and super chats are open if
you guys want to send in some love as we
go along here. We are going to be done by
five thirty, around five thirties on a Wins has got
to get to that screening and get ready for that
and all that. So what we also, if you want
us to answer any questions for you, please feel free
to send the stuff in. But yeah, let's finish up
the Superman conversation by saying, what are your thoughts as

(23:25):
you see all the reactions and the a lot of
positive views.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think it's at eighty seven, it was ninety one.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Then the Brits weighed in and it drove it down
to eighty six, but it might have gone up. Let
me take a look. But what do you think either way?
Upper eighties to nineties is a really good rotten Tomato
score for the start of this thing. Do you think
this bodes well for the movie overall? Because I saw
some people saying, now that they've adjusted the predictions, that
it might be at two hundred and thirty million dollar

(23:55):
opening weekend, Like, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
On that would be fantastic? I mean, I think that
that's great because what I then am curious about, I mean,
gun looking at this, Yeah, didn't do is Hot with Brightburne.
He's a producer on that, But like what Guardians three
eighty two, Holiday Special ninety four, Suicide Squad ninety Yes,

(24:17):
let's see Guardians two eighty five, Yes, Guardians one ninety two.
So like he for the most part, oh god, he
did movie forty three.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Oh lord, I didn't know another time. I think time.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
But for the most part, he hasn't missed since he
since he really kind of hit his stride, and so
I have good faith in that one way or the other.
I think one great superhero movie or not.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, the genre itself has hit such a particular place.
There are gonna be people that, no matter what, are
gonna hate on this. So I wasn't expecting it to
be one Hundo. But what I I was expecting to
be he is very good at world building. He is
very very good at world building. So what I wanted
to see out of this movie was show me what

(25:09):
this universe looks like, show me what But but I
need him to always focus. Put on that, put on that,
that's that that you know, close up lens of great,
Here's what the DC universe kind of looks like. But
here's specifically what Metropolis looks like. But here's specifically what
Superman looks like. I don't mind if you're building all
this out, but I need to focus on who is

(25:30):
the title of the movie. And sometimes that can be
a problem that happens when you're when you've got too
much world to build. Based off of everything I've heard,
it sounds like, yeah, yeah, they have to do the setup,
but once we're in, we're in, is what I've heard,
and that's what I'm hoping for.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's very much and I'll say because my review is
up on the channel and so is my out of
theater reaction, and it is a comic book lovers movie,
and it is absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
There's I will say this, there's not a lot of
backstory with a lot of the.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Characters, and so you're if you have your own history
you're bringing in from the comic books, that's gonna help
you appreciate the movie even more. It doesn't mean you
have to, all right, doesn't I'm gonna make it clear.
It doesn't mean you have to, because I think the
film works even if you don't, But if you do,
it allows you to kind of really just settle in
and enjoy what you're getting because it is. There is
some wacky stuff in the movie. There is some way

(26:25):
out there stuff in the movie. But there's also a
lot of real grounded emotional relationships and storylines being told
in the movie. And I think that's what keeps it
from flying off into wacky land.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
And that's important to have the balance.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
And the thing is, and you're right to bring up
his scores, Let's bring it up real quick. These are
the these are this is I mean, this is a
pretty good run here if you factor in also the
TV stuff like Creature, Commandos, I Am Groot, the Holiday
Special and Peacemaker. This is a nice run that James
has been on with the fans and the critics overall.
So yes, it says ninety one percent of top there.
Winston is right, it's down to eight now, which is

(27:01):
still not fucking bad for what it is. So that's
the phenomenal stuff that you see that that James James
clearly has the secret formula for these kinds of superhero
movies and they do work in his style.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And I said this in myriu that he is.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I wouldn't say a tour but I would say a
tour adjacent or au tour ish because he is a
very clear vision and you know when you're watching a
James Gun movie. And so this is another example of
that here in Superman. So yeah, I'll be curious to
see what you think.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And like I said, I'll have my out of the
theater up pretty asap. And then, uh, my aim was
to get the non spoiler out for the next day,
and the spoiler probably Friday.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, I might do a small spoiler one because we're
gonna do a geek buddies one live at some point
over the weekend or on Monday. Those guys are seeing
Those guys are seeing it tonight, just like you are.
So the boys are seeing it tonight. So who knows.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
It's always it's always weird watching all your friends everybody
out of the party.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You're like, bitch, I gotta go. Late Rocks and the
rejects all out there.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
We know Cooy's as the working for DC probably seen
that shit like a month.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Ago, thirty times.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Probably you got to go yesterday. Christian went this moaning,
I'm just like a sleepout machine.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
But even Christian was mad that he had to wait,
uh as long as we had to wait for the thing,
because he thought, you know, he wanted to be in
there as soon as possible, like everybody else. But uh,
there's been a changeover with people who are taking over
for the publicity at Marvel, and I think that maybe
affected his invitation. But yeah, he's not used to being
the guy. He's an odd man out on these kinds
of things. I hear you. All right, well, let's move

(28:44):
on to some other stuff going on in the world
of entertainment. We got to talk about this Winston because
it is spilled the tequila and speaking of us, speaking
of spill the tequila, we got ourselves A new song
from Drake, a new disc track. This is so interesting
because it's kind of come but it has nowhere near

(29:05):
the fanfare that the release of the songs got. In
terms of when the war was going on between him
and Kendrick Lamar, What did you think about? What did
I miss? What did you think about the lyrics? Heeries
seems like he was going after Future, going after Lebron,
going after any fans who were who had who took

(29:26):
Kendrick Lamar's side in all of this that he's walking
out in the music video amongst a bunch of rifles,
laid around on the ground, talking about whipping around on
six hundred acres, talking about ice pack, like bringing up
chili from TLC. Like there was so much in these lyrics.
What did you think of this as a comeback song
from Drake? Basically saying bitch, I don't need anybody and

(29:49):
don't come asking for favors anymore.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I mean, the funny thing is, if I'm just being
fully honest, I saw Drake drops a new Dish track
and I was like, I'm good and so I have
I haven't heard it. I've heard it a few I've
heard a few bars where you had the die hard
Drake stands.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Be like, bro, Yo, this line just went over your head.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Talking about yo, I'll hit you with a jab and
you go need a chili ice pack for your left eye.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
And I'm like that that didn't go over anything, because so.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Much to bro Bro.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
He said everybody in TLC, nigga, what about t boss
He did not. He did not say everybody in DLC.
He said two out of the three. So I just
it is what it is. I I find it funny
because this is what he should have been doing in
the first place, if he was going to if he's

(30:38):
going to go back, be quiet, drop a disc, not
throw out a lawsuit. It's very hard for me to personally, Yeah,
take him seriously because you decided to partake in a brawl,
then you went to go call mommy when when it
didn't go your way, and now you want to come

(30:59):
back out on the block pretend like we can have
recess again. That's and and and be hard to get
be like, I ain't not to change, man, you know
I'm out here. And and that's the only thing that
bothers me if you put out some bars that was
a situation of like, okay, we've never heard bars like
this before in our lifetime. This is crazy, and we

(31:19):
know for a fact he didn't go potentially have it
ghost written. Yeah, okay, but there's still I guess the
bad taste in my mouth from the lawsuit. I don't,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
I will eventually listen to it, But I mean, you.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You can lose a battle, right Like, people respect that
because people lose battles this life. You lose a battle
sometimes in life, no matter what it is. It don't
have to be a rap battle. It could be any
kind of battle. You sometimes you lose, so people have
sympathy for the losers sometimes, you know, I've seen like
I was I was watching the documentary Once Upon that
when we were kings about Muhammad Ali and how George

(31:54):
Blinton said, like I felt so much sympathy for the
loser in a heavyweight boxing match, because like it's such
a titanic struggle between two massive men and one of
them has to lose, and you just feel sympthy for
the loser because there's such a titan of the game.
The same thing here, like, Okay, you could have felt
sympathy for Drake, but the thing is when he sued
the record company, that was it. That was like, that's

(32:16):
the moment where you kind of bitched out and people
don't respect that, Like you got to take your lumps
and move on.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
But it kind of.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Added to the feeling people have about Drake is that
he's a little bit of a manufactured thing and he's
not as tough as he claims.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Now, I'm not saying I agree with that. I'm saying
it added.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
To that, and certainly, and you brought it up earlier,
that's an element of this here.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's because I think the funny thing about it, man,
there was this level of when we would look at
him when he first dropped, we were like, okay, yeah,
you know, he do be singing on the track. Sometimes
he's a little more in touch with this feels blah
blah blah. I think if he had kind of just
stuck to doing his thing and not constantly feel like

(33:03):
he would at times jump on bandwagons to stay hot
and like dip off them or things like that, I
don't think he would have necessarily been gone at that
hard because how is it that all these people that
you would collaborated with for so long all felt some
type of way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And then the opportunity they took it to kind of
make fun of you or come after you. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
And then on top of that, like you made the
decision to go scorched Earth with Lebron, even if you
were upset with Lebron, you decided to sit here and
be like, well, hey man, you know you all smiles
and funs of gay with Savannah? Then but what about
them Toms? You cheat on your wife? Why would you
do that?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
You?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
You took it to such a more ridiculous place, you
know what I'm saying, And so like the part about
it I think that makes me sad?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Is that? What?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Because I was a big Drake fan, ye, and I
to that point.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Headlines is still an effing a banger man. Headlines is
a great effing song.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Gohad suck.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
There's still so many of his songs that I like,
I couldn't listen to him for a minute because I
was just like, nah, you bitch, Like I just this
went sideways, man, I can't do it.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I've since been able to calm back down.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I don't really feel the impetus to listen to any
new stuff, but kind of the same way that I
feel about Kanye. With Kanye, for example, with that old stuff,
I all, I bought all those so I'm not technically
racking up a streaming numbers.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's all offline shit.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
So for me, I don't have a problem playing old
stuff just from but the stuff that I like was
stuck to my ribs like that like changed me as
a person. But I cannot listen to a single thing
he says now or a single song he puts out.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
None of that f him forever and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
So I mean Kanye, but with specifically, like the way
that I end up feeling about it is I think
why I related to Drake so much growing up is
like I've always been a little bit more of like
a sensitive dude. Like I was the dude that was
into anime and video games and all that.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
So like when you I would get around some other
black Foot, they'd be.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like, ah, this is sophomovel, Oh you white boy, oh
whatever whatever, whatever.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
There is a level of that's where I could write.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
There's a level at which I could relate to Drake
in that regard, But the difference is, as I grew up,
I was able to still be myself and someone will
say something like that to me now, and I'm like,
I and what are you doing with your life? Like
I am strong enough in my own conviction that I
don't need to bend the knee to people that want

(35:43):
to try and count me out of not being black
enough or not being whatever. And you know what I'm saying.
And in this case, instead of standing true to himself,
he felt like he crumbled because another example of somebody
like that, which is why he's one of my favorite
rappers ever, it's on my Rushmore. I don't think I've
believe it is Donald Glover as a Childishino. He leaned into
his nerdiness and still was like, here's some of the

(36:03):
hood stuff about. But he never tried to pretend to
be twenty one Savage, but he did a song with
twenty one Savage, Like he never pretended to try and
be Nipsey Hustle, but he was enough of himself to
go do songs with Nipsey Hustle. The problem with Drake
is it felt like he was being too much of
a chameleon instead of being true to himself. So when
people finally called him out about that, he allowed himself

(36:25):
to turn into a century the Karen of hip hop,
instead of just being like, nah, that's just that's that's
just our dude that like, you know, he'd be singing sometimes.
He's a little bitch sometimes, but he cool. If he
had just chilled out about all this, I think it
would have been different. But it's clear he has been
pissing people off for a long time.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing. People waited for the moment,
and when the moment arrived, and as soon as they
saw other people jumping on the moment, they jumped on him.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Now it's safe.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Now I'm gonna complain about it, and now I'm gonna
get involved in it.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
And that's the thing that you saw here, So you're right.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
It seems clearly like that there was a bunch of
bodies in his way and they were just waiting, and
they were working with him because they had to work
with him, or they felt like, well, you know, I
need to get to where I need to get to,
so I'll just bite my tongue and do it. Because
he called a lot of people in the pop out
stuff in the song. Look, it's not a bad song.
I will say this. It's on its own as a rap,

(37:16):
it's not a bad song. I like to beat, like
the style of it and everything like that, but the
content of it feels very victimy, and I don't think
that you want to go the victim route. How'd I
miss that? How'd I miss this? How'd I miss you
me helping you out?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I was helping you out? Why'd you turn on me?
Why are you being a trader?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I did? I did all this for you? That's victimhood, man,
And I think there was a harder, a harder return
he could have come with where it doesn't isn't even
bitching about being a victim and all of that. It's
more about like you just moving on and doing your thing.
And I just think that wasn't the best I mean,
you know what, I've never been a rap beef. God
knows anyway I have any kind of advice to make sense,

(37:56):
but I just feel like this wasn't the best way
to come back overall, and like the fact that it
wasn't even that big of a deal. And yes it's
had some articles, but it nowhere near what Kendrick got
for his final salvo against Drake.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
So yep, and and real real quick, somebody said, you know,
Drake never directly himself said in a this song that
Lebron cheated. No, no, no, you're right, but he was one,
he was running his mouth about shit. But two yeah,
essentially his his puppet academics is you know, his his
his his favorite little pet was out here saying that
for him and showing DMS from Drake about that. So again,

(38:35):
if not from him directly, the people directly associated with
him were out here throwing out these allegations, which again, yeah,
it is. It is a It is a well known,
well kept secret that Lebron has a set. Yes like
deal were essentially where there are plenty of women that

(38:57):
are married to athletes that have the same thing.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Love.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yes, do what you're gonna do, But don't you fucking
embarrass me. Don't you have no extra child, don't you
come back with no disease, don't let that shit hit
the news, don't get you. Don't want to hear no blackmail, shit,
no nothing. If I hear god damn thing, I am
going nuclear. But do not embarrass me and so in
the same way, it may not have been for Lebron having.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
To deal with a fan.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It may not have been Drake directly.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
But if Drake is telling his little best friend that
nobody likes in the first place, and he's running his mouth,
that is embarrassing me, you know what I'm saying. So like,
he may not have been the one who pull the trigger,
but people associated with him set all this whole thing up.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Man. So that's the thing. People people live.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
People think athletes live like they do. They a lot
of athletes have no concept of living like you do.
They are like normal people do, right, because they don't
live a normal life. And for people to expect them
to live a normal life when they've never had a
normal existence, I think is an exercise in futility. Uh.
Quite a few athletes have a deal, shall we say,

(40:04):
with their significant others. And I'm like Jordan was well
known with the rumors that he had a woman in
every town.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't know how much to buy they have a party,
would pay for apartments, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
He had a woman like Jordan too, He had a
woman in every town and he was paying for their
apartments too. And they were as Beck and call allegedly
whenever he showed up in a town allegedly allegedly.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I don't want to get all of this alleged.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
But yeah, no, Shack was to say that the alleged
was Okay, here's I was gonna go. I'm gonna pay
for this apartment. I don't like to stay in hotels
that way and come and say here, and I'm gone
busy if I want to. But then you're gonna worry
about nothing. But I bet when I show up, i'd
be ready. That's all I know. And you know I
can't come in the house.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
In Cartridges, Papa John's.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Why when Kobe outed him in the rape trial, like
that was in the interrogation, that's that's that's a violation
of the bro code.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
In the NBA. Like a lot of people were more
pissed that Kobe did that than they were that Jack
was cheating on his wife. Like more people were mad
about that. Yeah, oh man, Nick, oh Nick, Nick was

(41:19):
a mess man.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Do you see basketball podcast.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Going at it with DeMarcus Cousins and Kenya Martin, Dad,
I did not see that. Yeah, DeMarcus was mad because
he's like you guys, because Nick Young was saying they
never prepared for Sacramento's like, you're prepared for me.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I know you prepared for me. I know you had
a scattering report.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
He goes, man, we didn't have no scattering report on
the Sacks coming to town. All right, cool, we're getting
w like nobody cared about you.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Man. It was hilarious. DeMarcus was so peffing mad. It
was really this whole time.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
You thought they were like, bro, we you know, we
were like, I guess whatever I heard.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
There's a lot of cows up there. Maybe we get
some good beef. I don't.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I don't know, Like, ain't nobody prepping for Sacramento anyway? Sorry,
you were gonna say what were you gonna say anything?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
That's pretty much it as far as the disc track goes.
I haven't had a chance to listen yet. I guess
I will. I will go and listen, but mainly because
all it took was one person's putting that one like
this went all all y'all's heads, and I was like, no,
it didn't, It really really didn't. It went right into

(42:31):
my head and I said, okay, like.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Like I don't need that in there. Get it out
of me.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh man, Well, let's move on to something you've been
talking about on your channel, Winston for quite some time.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
The Diddy trial. It is officially over.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
He has been found not guilty on all the bigger charges,
including the racketeering stuff, which apparently was the fifth charge
that they were debating.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Over the jury, which almost led to a hung jury.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
And in the end there he was convicted of two
counts of transportation for prostitution. They could carry twenty years
each count, but the prosecutor each I guess twenty total.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I guess ten each.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah. So, but the prosecutors are only asking for I
think four to five years per count or four to
five years total, which is insane. And the judge today
has set the hearing for October third to decide sentencing.
So and he's out on bail right now, right. No,
they denied the bail. He's still in jail. He's still
in judge. The judge said, because you admitted that you
engaged in a pattern of domestic violence, I can't let

(43:39):
you out of jail.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Because I can't trust that you're not going to hurt
people involved in the case. Good for the judge on
that one. I agree, good for the judge.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
So what do you think about what were you surprised
by the verdict? And what do you think is going
to happen here? Does he see a day in jail?
Does he eventually do they say time served and let
him go? What do you think is going to happen here?
Or does he appeal this all the way until he
has no judge?

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Sadly, I think it's going to be time served.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
I think I think I think he's gonna get time
served because part of what ends up happening, and I
know that comes into consideration when a judge is thinking
about stuff like that. Yeah, it's looking more and more
that the prosecution kind of overreached. So it's not even
necessarily that there aren't things to be looked at. And

(44:24):
you can make the argument that like, okay, they missed
on the sex trafficking, but the minute you brought those
rico charges, in which rico is hard to prove, which
is why they don't do it often. But when it's there,
they go for broke, you know what I'm saying. And
so like, I think that sort of put a bad
taste in the mouth of the because part of it too.

(44:46):
I did see this, which was crazy, is that you
had jurors that clearly were not paying attention at first
because then they need redefinitions being to shoot out and
things like that. And despite you know, I listened to
a lot of the test money and stuff like that.
I had to stop covering it on my channel because
I was just like, I can't do this, this is
this is too much, you know. I think that that

(45:10):
was the issue, is that they just went We're gonna
fully nail this dude. And I think part of my, my, my,
the one thing I was worried about. I was really
worried that we were going to end up and say,
like a cosby situation of the prosecution doing too much
and ultimately you end up screwing this over the same thing.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Happened technically with the OJ case.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
If those cops had not been planting evidence or screwing
up like chade of chain of custody and all the
other stuff that was involved in.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
It, we gonna show this black bastard.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
If you would just run run your race and just
then the case I it needed to be done top
to bottom. He would have been put in jail immediately
for that. Whether whether or not, because obviously there's all
the you know, was it actually son, he was coming
for Son. There's a lot of theories as to what
really ultimately happened, But that was an overstep, and I
think the same thing happened in Cosy because that was
a double jeopardy then situation where they said you can't

(46:05):
do that again and was like release him right now,
what are you doing? So like now, it's the kind
of the same thing here. So what I'm curious about
is I think you'll probably get off time served. I
am curious how many of these civil lawsuits now go
forward and how much success we actually see out of them,
or if they get they start getting thrown out by
the duck. Because it doesn't help that there were a

(46:26):
few of them already that were sketched, that were like
drawing in Jay Z or drawing in Drew Ski that
it was like this timeline doesn't make logical sense. So
then it just feels like, oh my god, this was
a giant circus. But it again it sucks there is
it was clear as the arrest went down people you
would look at previous videos of people be like I

(46:47):
don't which means that there's smoke there, there is fire.
There is definitely a fire going on, but they were
so hell bent on being like, bro, he set off
the blaze that burn all of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
It was like a.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Two house five alarm fire, and yet you tried to
pretend like it was the whole of the county and
now all of a sudden, like he did not burn
the county.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you, so like
that's That's the thing that I think is rough, is
that we've got presented enough that at the least in
my opinion, the sex trafficking stuff should have should have
stuck too. And then I just think the rico was
just again that was an overreach and you may have
just polluted the mindset there.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I think it's crazy that the defense called no witnesses,
just cross examined the prosecutors witnesses did.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
He never took the stand, and they got him off
on all the serious charges. That's insane to me. Saw
that the strategy and it worked, and a lot of
people said that.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I watched a lot of post trial analysis from lawyers
and prosecutors on numerous shows, and they were all just
like the prosecution just blew this one. They had it,
and they just overreached in certain moments and they blew
the presentation of stuff. And in the end, I and look,
they had the video, they had all this stuff, and
they still could nail.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Them on this. It's mind blown, because you even I
was worried.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
I was worried beforehand, when we were still gearing up
to the trial and the stories were coming on. I
was covering this a decent amount of like the prosecution
wrongfully rating his cell and talks about how they got
ahold of some some client lawyer like privileged information things

(48:28):
like that, and like those are all things that ultimately
end up sort of in the record of how this
is going. And you just have to understand what's like that.
That's what kills me about it, is that idea. Now,
mind you, I'm not surprised that they didn't put Ditty
on the stand. You really don't want to put your
client on the stand unless it's absolutely necessary you can

(48:50):
help it, Yeah, because they will probably end up snitching themselves.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I just didn't take a stand on this, on this,
even though he did get convicted, he didn't take a
stand on his stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Yeah, so I mean, look, I think the part that
made me the most disappointed is the people that end.
You're like, see I totally leave alone, blah blah blah,
and then ignorant mother is outside with.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Baby oil.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Just then then then one woman torking and they swear
in baby old on and I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
God, talk to me about your community, bro, Like, what
what is that? What I mean, like, who is a
u Hughgley DL Hughley called him out on TMZ and
said it was ridiculous this is to do this? Man?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
What did you think about that?

Speaker 4 (49:38):
I think what it is is that the greatest mirror
held up to society. We say that artist is holding
up a mirror to society. The greatest mirror ever held
up to society, especially Black culture.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Is the Boondocks.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
This was all this was all broken down on the
Boondocks with the trial of r.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Kelly.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
And then all of a sudden, people are dancing and
and and we be in like, every black person that
the system arrests is not Nelson Mandela, and stop all
the goddamn dance and act like you've got some sense.
And yet they the exact same thing happened. So I'll
put it to you this way. As far as what
it is is my community, I think it's the same

(50:17):
thing that's true with any community. There are good there
are good mid and bad people in every single community.
That's that's just that's just how that works. And for
any number of reasons. And unfortunately, the people that were
at the forefront of the not guilty verdicts on the
bigger charges were spraying baby boil outside of the thing
and twerking about it. Any any other self respecting like

(50:41):
black person knowing how serious this is and how none
of this is a game, did not find that cute
or funny.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
They were like, bro, what are you? Are you serious?
So my video what you did?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Cassie for god say.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
But well, dude, remember we talked about this the opening
line for the defenses. When this is all said and done,
you might go did he is an asshole? Did he
is is an abusive partner? But you will not walk
away saying he is a crime lord like the likes
of of you know, the Godfather. That was their defense

(51:15):
And I was like, are you kidding me? That's your
opening defense? And then I thought about it, and then
I watched the case platle. I was like, oh my god,
that was brilliant. Oh oh, we are so fucked.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But he didn't get bail because they led with that,
so it didn't cot a little bit but a right.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
But but I look if ultimately what that means is
that he got to spend another it's July, it's October
is the thing? Another what three months in and then
he either gets time served or whatever his sentence is
and stuff like that. I'm sure he's he would rather
that than you know, he got found guilty on everything,

(51:56):
and and so they had to use that defense like.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Like anybody gonna try to race did he either or
try to recruit him into a gang like you know
it said they're reported in the news that did He
got a standing ovation from all the other prisoners when
he came back after the verdict was announced. So it's
like he is he is a celebrity even in the prison.
So he, like you said, if he's got to serve
three or four months, Yeah, it's gonna suck that he
can't be with his family and been the comfort of

(52:19):
his home, but it ain't gonna be like he's serving
a hard time. Knock at rocks on the side of
a road for God's sakes, like it's gonna be that
kind of thing. So by the end, you're right, he
might walk out Scott Freeze. But what does that say
though about this whole thing? At the end of the day,
is this yet another example of how wealthy person, if
they get the right attorney, can find themselves, regardless of color,

(52:40):
can find themselves getting out of these much more serious
situations because they can afford the right attorneys. Do you
think that, yeah, right, right, which we're gonna segue into
in just a second, but yeah, I mean, it just
seems like that's It seems like this is becoming a
really distinct and very very noticeable pattern in ways that
maybe it had before, because there's clearly people who want

(53:02):
to convict these people for these most heinous crimes, but
they seem to be unable to defeat most of these
defense attorneys that have a lot of money and resources.
Karen Reid, A lot of people think she's still guilty
for what happened.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I don't, but a lot of people do think she's guilty.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
She got a high powered LA attorney who got her
off on two separate cases, and now they can't convict
her or try her anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
It's done.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Yeah, I mean, look, I actually mentioned I did my
I did a short Squid Game season three review.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I won't I won't.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I won't spoil anything other than just it's a very
light spoiling, but it's about what we're talking about. The VIPs.
When it's all said and done, do not get any
sort of comuppets. And I had mentioned in my review
how part of me kind of hated that ending, but
at the same time, I hate it because there's a
part of me that still wants to believe that when

(53:57):
people do bad things they see justice everybody. But the
truth of the matter is, and that being at the
end of the series.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Is kind of accurate.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
When you have that much money or that much power,
it's pretty rare that that happens.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
As a matter of fact.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
One of the reasons, without seeing Superman, but just knowing
the relationship between Lex and Superman, the reason why Lex
hates him so much is he is the only person
that he does not have power to control. Yes, he
cannot Superman, both his morals and his physical power cannot
be controlled by Lex, So Lex is constantly trying to

(54:37):
control him, kill him all that because no, I am him?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
How dare you? That is why that keeps happening.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
I reread All Star Superman in anticipation of the movie
because I know that it supposedly had a decent amount
of draw And that's one of the whole things is
Superman comes in and goes, look, Man, you didn't said
multiple times that you can save the world. I'm about
to die. So if you're serious about that, Lex, you

(55:08):
should really do. Lex spits in his face, and then
at the end when they're when Lex now has Superman's power,
Superman's on desk, door, all that kind of stuff, He's like, bro, again,
you could have been him, but you instead would rather
be a wanna be dictator. And as long as I breathe,
which is like ten more minutes, I'm not gonna let
you do this. So it's that's the thing. When you

(55:32):
get to that much power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
So, and sadly, you make enough connections with the other
corrupt and powerful people so that you never have to
pay the price for it if you maintain those relationships,
because you never know how long the tentacles are of
these rich people and their ability to gain the system.
And it's a perfect segue into the Epstein files, which

(55:56):
you mentioned. Now, Apparently, ladies and gentlemen, there has never
been a list. There are no photos and videos of
any note. This investigation is over, and Epstein killed himself.
And the one minute missing video is just what they
do every night. There's a minute missing every night because

(56:17):
they're changing over the tapes.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
This is what they want us to believe.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Now. After years of banging the drum about the Epstein
Jeffrey Epstein listen, and all of that, the accusations that
Trump was possibly in these videos and photos, Michael Wolf
on the Daily Beast talking about almost every week how
he has seen photos, he has been shown videos of
Trump and all this kind of stuff and other people,
and now the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ say

(56:44):
that there's nothing to talk about anymore.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
It's done.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's over. After promising that they were going to release
all this information and now apparently the investigation is over
and sealed and stop asking me about it?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
As Trump said today, can we stop talking about Jeffrey
Epstein now? And it's like that was that dude? That
was nuts? You know what? That telling me You're guilty, bro.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
A thousand percent?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Wait wait are you seriously are you really asking about
him again? Did we not say there's no files? There're
everwhere files? There were no files. Why are you asking
about f scene files? That doesn't make any sense. It
makes no sense. What so we're out here?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
You know this is what's fed up?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yeah, this is black Bush the Chappelle sketch all over again.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Who said anything about oil? Bitch? You cook it up?

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Like or to the fact that be Like, why are
you still talking about the war? What's going on? Did
you know that gay people are getting married folks like that? Like,
it's that same. Let me don't look over here. Look
at the shiny object I'm waving around in front of you.
Look over here, look over here. Why aren't you looking
over here? Stop looking at this? Don't look over here.
That is a classic playbook that he does, and he

(58:01):
has done the entirety of his career, but specifically in
his political career. And that's where we're at. And so
here is the thing. I don't think we'll be wrong.
I don't think there are any maga people that watch
the show. Maybe there are, maybe, yes, If this is
something that you have said over and over again about

(58:23):
how protecting children is important and protecting women is important,
and that up to this point believed more than without
a shadow of a doubt, that this whole ring was happening,
that this was all happening. Yeah, this would be the
moment to not let your foot off the gas and
go No, I don't accept that this would be the

(58:43):
moment to say put up or shut up. I don't
believe it, because again, why up until Elon straight up
says he's on the tapes that it was all like no,
we gotta know, we gotta know, and we're going in
it and we're doing it, and BONDI was saying, it's
on my ask for me to go through right now,
this way.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I have the Epstein list on my desk, on my desk.
Now she's claiming I meant the files the papers. Now
she's trying to claim that it was just about the
files for the papers. Lies.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
This is the time to hold like, prove that you
were not in a cult and hold your leader accountable,
because that is why people will say, no, you were
in a cult, because you have got somebody who has
constantly told you it's a thing, and now they want
to straight up never mind there, we're going to take
that as an answer.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I agree it with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Winston. I wouldn't take it as an answer either. And
there are a grifter, the right wing grifters are already
online with their fabricating a new narrative, saying, like I
believe them, let's move on from Epstein. It's done, it's closed.
Why are we still talking about it? We spent years
on it. Let's so they are essentially like parrots, echoing
what the company line is in order to support their

(59:55):
grift and keep making money off of this. So there
is no principles behind any of this for some of
them at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Now some of the people are pushing back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Some of the MAGA talking as Alex Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Is crying in his car.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Have you seen that video and crying in the car
about it all?

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Is it you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Maybe I'll play it because it's not on any kind
of saved thing. Uh and uh, and Roseanne Barr called
him out said, people still care about what's going on
to these children?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
What is the truth here? And then you've seen some
of the other lower.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Level MAGA fans online saying what have they been then
if Biden, if Trump was on these, don't you think
Biden would have released it to help him win the election.
And that's the mindset of the magas, like I will use.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Anything to win. Why didn't they use that to win?

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
And so it kind of takes it out Okay, yeah, yeah,
go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, part.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Of the cover up. Tromonstration has become part of it.
I mean, it's just you. You cannot see it any
other way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah, he's accusing the Trump of being the office. I'm
gonna go throw up, actually, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Something really bad happens or something.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I mean, I'm physically gonna gonna pete probably right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
My mouth is watering right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Because.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Oh yeah, I just really need the t Remonstration to
succeed and to save this country. And they're doing so
much good wall and then for them to do something
like this, there's my guts out. And you know, the left,

(01:01:33):
they're all complicit. They're open to promoting pedophilia. We know
they're pure evil, and they'll think it's all funny. Oh look,
alex is sad magus. Tear yourself apart. Your globalless masters
literally want you to eat bugs and live in a
five g twitterred square foot coffin apartment. Look at the left,
Look at them all shots looking like dead zombies. I mean,

(01:01:55):
come on, you guys are sick, so you shouldn't look
at those of us that have a soul, still have integrity,
celebrate you dumb pieces of fucking shit. They're going to
use your own self preservation serving this evil global assystem
with black Rock in the New World Order and hockey
Jeffrey's and all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
The rest of it. So I'm just processing this right now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I don't know on what planet Trump is doing all
this good stuff in the real world and still being
demonized by the corporate media, and then constant lines like
oh those new weather alert for flash floods and Texas
by the National Weather Service. There was the day before
and over five hundred times. It's just just just constant eyes.

(01:02:39):
I need to defend Trump, he's being lying about and
then this type of shit happens. I don't even know
what to say. I mean, it's just it's beyond insane.
You couldn't try to hurt yourself worse. You couldn't try
to credit the FBI worse than what they've done. Pambondi
all of it, all those video here saying yeah, she's

(01:03:00):
seen the videos, it's all coming out, and then now
it doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I mean what what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Far a bit for me to agree with Alex. That's
the problem, damn it. Unfortunately it broken. Clock is right
twice a day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah, yeah, let's take that down.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Breath breathe, breathe, breathe, Alex, breathe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I mean, seriously, and first of all, don't call anybody
a piece of shit when you lied about the Sandy
Hook kids getting killed in that gun matt and then
got convicted for it, and then don't even have the
fucking shriveled up a zembic balls to pay them off
for to pay them the money that they they're owed, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Sack of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
So I mean, I think it's funny for him to
come off and cry about his nonsense, utter nonsense, dude,
for God's sake. Mm hm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Anyway, here was the thing. I think I would take
people a little more seriously if people would actually call
balls and strikes and stop just trying to win. Yes,
that's ultimately the problem. People are not actually being objective.
It's all about my team winning period and and Maga

(01:04:01):
is the is the worst about it. But I could
make that argument that everybody has has the ability to
do that from time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
It's like one of the things that I find really interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Last year, I want to say, there was like a poll,
maybe it was two years ago of like what is
the biggest fast food restaurant to gen Z, Like the
number one restaurant by like eighty five percent? Bro, it
was Chick fil a and and and gen Z is
one of the biggest obviously fighting for LGBTQ frights. So

(01:04:33):
if you really standing on business of I don't do
that whatsoever, How.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Is it eighty five percent or like, yeah, you know,
I'll rock with that sandwich. Do get me that gay
hate and chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Give me that gay hate and chicken. I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
So it's that's I just need people to I think.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
What makes me sad is I think, in my in
my gut, in my in my heart, I always felt
that everybody was a decent amount of intelligen or at
least that there was like a base level and every
body was there was a base level of good and
every day And now I understand when I was warned
as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Now you're gonna get older. You're gonna get cynical.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Just wait and see, you're gonna get cynical.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
And every day I start going, oh my god, people
are way dumber than I thought. Oh my god, people
are more immoral than I thought. This is oh my god,
every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
So I got yeah, listen, you know I'm older than you.
You know that, and so your your idealistic takes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I remember those.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Days, and I love it. I love that it's still possible.
But yes, you will get older.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Now. It doesn't mean you have to become embittered.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
At the world, but you you become more aware of
how much bullshit is fabricated out there, how much people
put on a face, how many lies are going on,
and how many incongruent thought patterns people have, Like I'm
gonna I'm gonna stand for LGBTQ plus community, but I'm
also gonna eat at Chick fil A. Like there's that

(01:06:01):
kind of a goal goal switching when it's convenient.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Because because I'll put it to this way, reroka, because
I can admit myself and this is true of me
to standing on business. Yeah, I unfortunately, because I grew
up in the South I still do eat a Chick
fil A. But the way that I try and counterbalance
that is I'll either will donate to the Trevor Project
an equal or more amount, where I will go to
a gay establishment like I played where I play dodgeball
is a gay owned bar. If I was like, oh damn, man,

(01:06:28):
I just bought an eight dollars sandwich, yo, let me
get forty dollars worth of shots for everybody standing around
this bar. Trying to counterbalance it one way or the other,
because the truth is everything a little bit evil. But
but I'm saying, if you're going to stand on business,
stand on business, that's that's the whole thing, whatsoever. So
I will openly admit that, but then I try to
do something to offset it, at least a little bit.
Some people start like, I don't fuck with that, dude,

(01:06:49):
that's not good enough, and I'll take that l if
I gotta take that l But at least for me,
that's what I attempt to do to try and counterbalance.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
My concern is that you're paying fifty dollars for a
chicken sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
That's my concern.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Eight dollars plus the forty you're doing to make up
for it. Okay, well, yes, if you do that math
that technically, yeah, goddamn good send.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Which that's actually really funny now that I think about it,
I even think about it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
I did not even think about it. I thought about
the other way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
I was like, as it was a donation to the
gay community with the side of an eight dollars, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
It's I don't know if it's fifty, but it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It's just like, no, it's just like a credit card.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You're like, well, I'm gonna buy all this stuff because
it's discounted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Are you gonna be able to pay for it by
the end of the month, because it's not gonna be
discounted once the interest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Hits for the money you've just spent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So these are the games you got to figure out financially. Anyway. Yeah,
it's a good point, and we'll see what happens with
this whole thing. But nothing surprises me anymore. Man, and
the fact that he tried to use Texas as a cover.
You're asking about Epstein when these children have died in Texas.
It's like, son, you are the last person to be
talking about sympathy or empathy for anything or anybody, and

(01:08:06):
to use the death of these which I think is
up to one hundred and sixty now something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Like that, well over one hundred people, to use it
as a cover.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
And I'm cynical enough from what I've seen from MAGA
over the last ten years to believe that they waited
for something this bad before they decided to bury the
Epstein stuff so they could use it as cover and say,
how can you ask me about this when there's been
such a tragedy going on. I think they did that way,
and it makes me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Sick to my stomach if that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Absolutely, because they do that. Like you've seen Lucky number seven.
It's the Kansas City. You'd look over here so I
can pick your pocket over here. It's that exact same scenario.
It also buried the big beautiful Bill. We should be
all up his past about that. I'm not saying we
shouldn't worry about what had happened in Texas, but that

(01:08:58):
is the worst piece of fun. Like the number of
people that are about to lose their healthcare is insane,
and yet we're, you know, we're hitting him with Epstein
and and and looking at the text, it's it's it's
it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, I know, and then yeah, yeah, so we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
But anyway, let's get into some.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Questions Winds, because I know you we got to get
going here. And thank you to everyone who's sent in stuff.
We've got eleven of these so far. Dennis Officeys can't
join live, but big fan Fellas rookay, you got me pumped.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
For soups Herd terrific is Trevic. Yes, I said that
in my review. Eddie Gathiki is to me, he almost
steals the movie. He is so good in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yes, I'm telling you, I'm making I made I've made
it a point in all of my conversations that I
put out in videos about Superman to highlight him because
he steals the movie from me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
He is fantastic in the film.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Aside from the main three actors, he is the standout
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
So yeah, I mean, especially from the standpoint of you know,
my boy got done dirty previously, because wasn't he Darwin?

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Oh yeah, I think i'd done.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Hella dirty with literally the man whose superpowers are I
can't die because like when during World War Hulk, Yeah
a minute, he went to go try and fight Hulk.
His powers determined the best self defense, the best preservation
was to teleport him to the opposite end of the planet.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
His body said nope.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Like literally took did the blackest thing ever said nope
and turn around and walk away.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
And yet somehow in this case, nah, he just gonna
blow up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
No, he has a lot to do in the movie,
which is why I was also a little you know,
I said this in one of my last comments about
the movie that I felt like it was frustrating that
we hadn't seen a lot of footage with him in
the trailers, because he is a big part of the movie,
so I'm surprised we didn't see a lot more. But
maybe they just wanted to hide what he was doing
in the film because it's a lot of essential stuff
in the film.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Jorge Andiestra says, do we really want to the Drake
album with Sneak? This is having no real friends, slash
failed relationships, mob boss talking even though he issuing I'm done.
To be honest, he's doubling down on his red pill
pivot and his stands are maga hip hop. That's true.
He showed up to Morgan Wallan's concert recently and played
on stage with Morgan Wallen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
So is this what? Yeah, you didn't see that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Oh yeah, oh yeah that he came out on the
videotron from the back with Morgan Wallen. They came out
and were singing a song together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
So she's a surprise, bro. This may be where he's going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Now where look?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
And this is the standard thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
As soon as the when you're lean hanging out with
the left, as soon as they turn on you, these
artists immediately run and become part of the right right.
You're seeing that today I called out Michelle Tafoya for
her bullshit. Former NFL sideline reporter posted a letter that
she supposedly got from a stewardess a couple of days ago,
and somebody else found that she had posted the same

(01:11:57):
letter and the same post two years ago. Oh, the
exact same handwriting, the exact same wording. And so it's
as you see that this is all a grift. They're
just mad they lost attention on one side and they
ran to the other side to get attention. So anyway,
fantastically fourteen the Superman steps on some Cheetos and Fox cries, Okay,
what that means.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
But okay, well, Superman steps on some cheetos and Fox cries.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I don't know if I get it. Yeahry fantastic. I apologize.
I don't think I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
James is just a point to a BBS is the
highest grossing film to feature the Superman character and his
sub seven hundred million dollars, right, But that's I'm gonna
say this. This is the beginning of a universe, and
this is your number one character. Superman is globally known,
so and this is we just had Deadpool and Wolverine

(01:12:47):
make a billion fucking dollars. You tell me Superman can't
make a billion dollars, but like a lower lower hero
like Daredevil. Sorry, a dead Pool and Wolverine a gonna
make a million dollars. Come on, now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
That's but you got to remember that was also pinned
off of nostalgia because because you got to remember, that's
that's twenty plus years of saying goodbye to the Fox
universe as a whole. Hugh Jackman, who was retired coming
out of retirement for doing that the third and A trilogy.
Because the same way that, like I think, no way,
Holm is a fantastic movie. It made two billion dollars
because you got all the Spider Man's from twenty five years,

(01:13:24):
you put them all on a movie together, you brought
their villains back, and like, you know what I'm saying.
So I would hope that it can do it, but
I will give it at least a little bit of
a benefit of the doubt, because what individual origin superhero
movie since the pandemic has cleared a billion? None, no origin.
It was all wrapping some shit up. It was all

(01:13:47):
wrapping it up. Because even I think Toppinger Maverick is fantastic.
That's also a sequel. The only billion dollar movies that
I know that were straight out the gate Barbie. Yes,
I'll count Oppenheimer because it was like nine to sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
It was close enough that I'll give it to it,
Super Mario and then Minecraft, I'll also give it to it.
I don't think it ever hit it, but I think
it got to like nine to twenty five as well,
something like that. Right, those are but but again, ip
ip ip and then one Original.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
But that is really like DC's IP no no.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
And I know I understand that too, but I'm saying, like,
like there's something you're kind of you're kind of building,
so Superman should be up there, it should be able
to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
But see it doesn't hip go ahead, good?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Sorry, what's it doesn't help?

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Well, it doesn't help. What minecraft Mario Oppenheimer? You didn't
also have mag and going. They're trying to feed you
the looga immigran general. Like, if it's supposed to be
four quadrants, that means that you need everybody. Unfortunately, you
need you need it both sides of the political Scriptrum
to Go. That was a good ass movie. It's easy
to do that with top gun because it's just like planing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Go fast Ooh the Russian is evil? Oh are they
gonna give me?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Come?

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Friends?

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
Like, that's you can do that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Like everybody loves Tom. That's a very point. That's although
his mission Impossible. Didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
So let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I said no more round twos Kendrick's super Bowl promo,
no more rounds two.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
I said, no more round twos.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
That's true. I'm two flag amsas have you both seen
the Jeremy John's drama. His Superman review had people on
Twitter find his blackface videos. Will geeks do a Live
Review super I have not seen. I wish people would
leave Jeremy alone. Man, I mean he did, he did
that years ago. He's apologized for it over and over
and over again, but people still bring that stuff up
to try to put it in say, look, blackface is terrible.

(01:15:39):
I don't know what possesses people to do it. I've
never even thought to do something like that, but there
are just certain people who think it's funny or think
it's innocent fun and it just doesn't make any sense
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
So on one hand, I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Why people want to go after him, but Liinston on
the other hand, it's like he apologized for it was
years ago. Like, as you said earlier, do we not
move on with grace when someone apologizes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
If again, if this is somebody that continues to habitual,
if he would step across.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
The line, he's an habitual line stepper.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
If he's an habitual line stepper, yes, then you're right,
then go at him. But if if like what did
he say, was he like it was a bad movie
for these reasons? Was he like it's a bad movie
because who wants to talk about immigrants? And why is
mister terrific front and center. We don't need that black superhero. Okay,
here's his blackface video. This is a pattern. But if
he just says, if I didn't think it was a

(01:16:30):
good movie and gave legitimate reasons for not being a
good movie, then what are we doing that I need.
I need people to again call balls and strikes. Stop
trying to have your team win, because that is where
we get to such a disingenuous place. We cannot actually
ever improve or or move forward as a society. We

(01:16:50):
always take steps backwards because people cannot be honest about
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I've been many interactions with Jeremy work Coul, Jeremy Collider
number once any kind of off and racist comment, never never,
So I would be surprised if all of a sudden
he's putting that on his movies, or rather Zach Roberts
sending Winston and his pop's love from Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Respects respect, Yeah, shout out to you, Papa.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Cows Fan and Jo's other guys. Hope you're good. Not
to side step from your topics.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
But as a young disabled man with complex disabilities, it's
disability Pride month, and I read a recent study that
found that over ninety five percent of disabled parts across
TV or played by all able bodied actors.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Yeah. Wow, I saw that study as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
It's it's an interesting situation within because I mean, like,
sometimes you have to go with that actor because that
actor can sell the project. And that's the unfortunately, that's
the Hollywood honest truth, right that, and it does and yes,
you're taking the opportunity away from someone who may be
able to sell the project. But Hollywood's not known for

(01:17:53):
taking chances on situations like this. And there has been
a pushback recently, Winston of people who are like, we
don't have to just cast all disabled body people for
this day of what like, we have to be back
getting back to the actors who can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
So, I don't know what do you think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
I think it's always a tricky scenario.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I think there should be a better push to get
people of each individual community to represent themselves. Sure, you know,
I think that that is very important. And I think
depending on how you decide to depict certain things, so like,
for example, I think about how Siya got ripped a

(01:18:32):
new one about doing her movie about autism, and it
really just felt more like other Yes, you put able
body people in there, but that the actual content when
you saw it felt like it was making fun or
taking shots at it, even though she supposedly was trying
to help out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
So I think a lot like it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
That's where things get tricky, where I think you should
do everything in your power to try and have the
most accurate represent Haiti as possible, and then also just
know that sometimes it isn't as possible like it, including
like if like say, there's a story of about somebody
who you know is in a wheelchair, but like the

(01:19:14):
beginning of it or whatever, they are walking around all
the time, you know what I mean. I think if
we end up in a scenario where ultimately we do
start to see more AI or type stuff involved in that,
then you could potentially kind of make an adjustment for
things like that. But sometimes that's that's because I think
about the first class. That's why you're going to get
a you know, McAvoy, because Charles didn't start off in

(01:19:39):
a wheelchair, Charles off walking around and then a tragic
accident happened and then going forward, so that like makes it,
you know what I mean. So I hear you, and
I'm thank you A for sharing Cowboy Fan and b
I apologize that we're not there yet as a society. Unfortunately,
that's something we got to always try and to get
a little bit better about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Yeah, I agree with everyone thing once the thing nailed
it completely instant for sure. J Mobile Jamscore Mobile says,
I always like Drake's music. He's talented, but make your
songs in Hush Aubrey, miss me with the guns and
street shit when we all see you're not like that. Yeah,
maybe I don't know, man, I want to feel that
way about him Winston. But then again, when I found

(01:20:17):
out about how how hard mc hammer rolled, that changed
my mind on everything. Like people can tell you stories
about Hammer, like Hammer was no joke. Yes, everybody made
fun of him back in the eighties and nineties and stuff,
but like third Base, those guys even said they came
out and said, like, once we found out how hard
Hammer rolled, we stopped talking about Hammer because he is

(01:20:38):
not someone to mess with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
You know, Man's from Oakland, He's got connections in Oakland.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
So I don't know if Drake's got any got a
crazy brothers up in Toronto, and there's a whole like
hard ass community there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
I don't know, so I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
At this point, and if not, he's got bodyguards, Like
I'm sure you are.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
That's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Yeah, still, you know, stop taking picture.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Of Look, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
I don't necessarily think it's necessarily a problem. Don't make
your entire personality about how straat you are. That's that's
the difference. I don't have a problem with somebody every
now and again, because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
The truth is enough.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
I've talked about this, like someone was like, man, why
you be up on you know, capes and you want
to act one particular way and then all of a
sudden you're on like Blurds or you're on spill the
Tekila and now you just want to act extra whatever.
And I'm like, well, first of all, you don't. You
may get to see me a few hours a week
on the Inn, but you don't actually know me, and
you don't know the full extent. You know, as much

(01:21:30):
as I put out there, including all black people know this,
I would argue, most Latin people know this, and now
white people are starting to understand what code switching is. Yeah,
there are certain there's a time and a place for
certain things. You know what I'm saying, And so like
like you said with mc hammer, mc hammer said, Yo,
these women shaking their ass to my songs.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
Let me go ahead and just be like, you know, mister.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Debta Hammel, Hammel, right, Hammel, But you step to me,
I am from Oakland.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I will shoot you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
You know what I'm saying, And so same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
I may not be a gangbanger or nothing like that,
but I don't play when it comes to like my
family and friends. If you say or do the wrong thing,
I will Well what are we talking about? So it
just it just depends. That's that's my that's my two cents.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Yeah, and if you guys haven't seen, if you guys
haven't watched some stories about Hammer, I highly recommend you
all roll and find some stuff on YouTube and on TikTok.
It is it is jarring, it is jaw dropping out. Yeah,
let's see cowboys fans back again saying, hey, guys, while
we are talking news, I'm done with the big mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
So I'm going to vetted media outlets.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Myself personally only now understood a lot of people feel
that they are, especially because the legacy media is now
bending the need of Trump so hard that you have
to question the validity and veracity of the things that
they're saying now, so we're seeing more and more people
popping up on outlets or on sorry, on platforms like
this where people are trusting them to deliver a little

(01:22:48):
more of the unbiased news.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
I'm a massive fan of of Oh my god, Philip DeFranco.
I actually listened to him, right, That's that's where I
get my you know, twenty to thirty minutes in new
a day, and if there's something I need to follow
up on, then I'll follow up myself. But that's about
to protect my mindset. But he's also proven to be trustworthy,
deliver it exactly like it is, give his opinion and

(01:23:10):
then leave it up to the audience to discuss.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
And that is what we need more of.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
So yeah, agreed, bro uh talk to about says who
beats who in Super Bowl sixty?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Is that? What's up? Are we up to sixty?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Yeah? Victy nine was last year?

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Damn no idea, because I honestly, I need to see
what these teams look like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
I hate looking at.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Pre like give me, give me at least week, Like
I'll give you a prediction once we get through preseason.
But if you want my real prediction, give me about
three to four weeks into the season to let the
rust knock off, to really see what people because think
about the Saints. I tried to warn everybody the Saints
not this past year, but I think the year before
where they won, they went too oh, and I'm like,
the Saints are not as good as you think they are,

(01:23:54):
I promise you. And then all of a sudden the
wheels came off. You need just a little bit of
time to make an accurate prediction. If I had to,
you put a gun to my head. Now, I think
it's probably the Bills and ship Roka, you're gonna be
You're gonna be stunned by this bro and the Commanders.
Oh way, No, I think the Bills Commanders in the

(01:24:15):
Super Bowl. I think that. I think the Commanders get
end up with a favorable matchup in in the playoffs
and they do the unthinkable. And you made some upgrades.
I think I think it might be that. I think
it might be your time. I don't think you win
per se. I think Josh Allen is on a tear.
I think he's upset about Sinners. But I think you

(01:24:36):
might be able to get over the hump. I don't
even think that the Eagles are. I wouldn't necessarily lose
to Washington, but I think the NFC is so stacked
that some an upset could come from somewhere, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
And so yeah, that's why that's my blank prediction right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
I'll give you two teams to watch this on each conference.
I think you've got to watch the Raiders. Pete Carroll
is a miracle worker. And I think you got to
watch the Bears. Caleb Williams got screwed over last year,
and I think if they've and I liked the movies
they made in the offseason. So watch those two teams.
I'm not saying super Bowl, but certainly watch them this year.
I think they're going to surprise some people for sure.

(01:25:11):
I think it's gonna be Packers and Bills that'll be
the super Bowl, and Bill's probably.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Whackers interest Jordan Love. I got a feeling about Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
He just he's a little too hot cold for me
right now. And that's the one thing that's wild about
picking the Commanders is it's rookieyear. Because look at Seed
Destroud was going off and then didn't have as good
as a sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
But right, but yeah, Samos's thoughts on the right wing
melt on over Superman. We talked about it earlier, Sam.
I don't know if we can add much more to that,
but thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Jay on score Mobile says, it feels like many artists
put up with Drake because he's talented, but now that
he's talking, they're like, cal him down, dude, we never
really liked you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
It's it's it's you burned a lot of bridges over time,
because the funny thing is none of them necessarily were
calling it out off rip. You had a few little
things with like the Pusher t beef and the meek
Mill beef. Meek Mill was way out of his weight
class on that one. But eventually, especially if your entire

(01:26:12):
career is based off of relationships, that stuff catches up
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Yeah, exactly. Logan Valn says a month ago, my Maga
parents said that quote. Miss Rachel has gotten too political,
and to me, she's the modern mister Rogers. I think
it's wild to take issue was saying let's stop killing kids.
But that's how far gone Maga.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Is that is. It was insane to me, that's my point.
Call balls and strikes and in what in what way
did she say. She didn't say anything of like, hey,
you know, we should only protect white and do it
kids and like whatever. She just said, we should just
not kids, shouldn't die. As a as a as a
teacher for children. She said, we should not be killing kids.

(01:26:52):
That is the most unpolitical statement. And yet people are
so obsessed about their team winning. You are not calling
a fair game. That is nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
I just think people in MAGA know deep down that
they're on the wrong side, and so when people call them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Out, oh so no, keep talking. I want to show you.
I think people who are I think that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I think MAGA people know they're on the wrong side secretly,
deep down, like at three am when they're by themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
They know they're on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
The evil side of things. So when anyone makes a
comment in any platform that comes close to sounding like
liberal or progressive, they.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Immediately jump on it to try to destroy it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
And that shows a insecurity in your in your intelligence,
and a loss of confidence in your point of view
that you need to act like this. When that happens,
and so yeah, all of all people you're gonna come
from miserage. It's so ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Well, so check this out real quick. This is specifically
more about ice and whatnot. And for those that can't
read it, I'll read it out loud. But this was
perfectly said. If you're using undocumented immigrants tax records to
find and kidnap them, then this was never about them
paying taxes. If you're showing up at their place of employment,
and this was never about them not working. If you're

(01:28:10):
showing up at courthouses, then this was never about them
to There was never about them doing it the right way.
If you are kidnapping women and children, then this was
never about criminals. If you're refusing to give them due process,
and this was never about the constitution. If you're building
concentration camps in Florida to keep them here in cages,
and this was never about the border, if you're spending

(01:28:30):
billions to do this, and this was never about the economy.
And if you're doing all this in the name of
a thirty four time convicted felon, and this was never
about following the law. Ye, And that is where I
get frustrated with MAGA is all of the excuses that
were brought up about this, and this is the same
argument we've used with women's rights as far as like

(01:28:51):
audio autonomy and whatnot. If you're really truly pro life,
why are you cutting programs to support children, especially poor children,
when they're brought into this world and that mother that
was it. It doesn't even have to be assaulted, but
that single one whatever cannot afford to raise this chopic
It's like, oh well, it sucks to suck. We're getting
rid of medicare and snap like you you are lying

(01:29:11):
out of your ass, And that is the This is
always about racism and control.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
One hundred percent, yes, but that's like, you know, you
get exhausted because people called me out for years in
the space Oh roka is always bringing up races, always
bringing up race. I grew up with that, Like that
is what I experienced from a very young age with
immigrant parents in this country, White people making fun of
their accent, making fun of how they handle things, trying

(01:29:39):
to get things over them, them thinking they're stupid because
they don't speak English perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
I dealt with all of that growing up, Okay, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Numerous numerous examples of it in my life, in various formats,
seeing how it plays out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
So when all this starts to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
And people are going crazy about it and clutching their pearls,
I go, this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Is exactly where they've been going the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
So I'd like to be upset about it as hard
as I was twenty years ago. But I always knew
this was coming at some point, and here it is.
Alligator Alcatraz is absolutely a fucking concentration camp. I don't
care what they try to paint it as it is
absolutely that. And the fact that it flooded and if
people had actually been there, a lot of those a

(01:30:22):
lot of those immigrants would have died in those conditions,
And that is the harsh truth, is that people are
going to die. And the fact that they're selling merchandise
speaks to a very darkness in this. It's a it's
a devil darkness, a demon darkness in your soul.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
It's from hell.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
That is from hell to sell merchandise that is going
to take advantage of watching these human beings. When you
go to church on Sunday, you say you care about
everybody on earth, all of God's creatures. And similarly, because
they crossed an imagine on the line in the sand
and they're the color brown, you are going to celebrate
them dying. It will not fix your life. And this
is what it always comes to, is like, oh, they're

(01:30:59):
in the way of they're taking our jobs. Bullshit, You
fucked up your own life and killing these people are
not going to fix your life in any way, shape
or form. Or kicking them out. You're still gonna be
the loser. You're still gonna be the person with no money.
You're still gonna be a broken marriage. You're still gonna
be the person suffering in pain because you don't want
to deal with the inner shit because you think the
outer shit is the reason why you're unhappy. And that's

(01:31:21):
what eventually is gonna blow up in their face.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
With all of this, speak speak on it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
And yeah, I'm sure you heard about the dude that
was I guess outside the site where they're building it
and bought some merchant was and was laughing by a fence,
by a delegator, and I don't know if he died,
but I think that got his arm. Like he's out
here looking like chubs now, So like from Happy Gilmore Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
So, hey, f around and find out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Uh that's true, so true. Sorry, we're going along with study.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Okay, my fault is my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
It's okay, let's see see see black SSS Thunderbolts Well
the highest artist score for a comic movie in twenty
twenty five. I think that movie will be appreciated after Doomsday. Yeah,
very possible, very possible. Chris Corcoran says, I feel like
Centri's Democrats put more energy against Zohran Mamdani then.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Towards toward the BBB. The far right is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
The enemy, but we need better opposition.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
I don't disagree with you. You know, I haven't done
enough research on this guy, and there are videos of
him making fun of stuff back when he was younger.
But like, yeah, it seems like whenever any progressive wins
the establishment, the Democrats try to destroy them, like they
did with Bernie, like they would love to have done
with AOC, but she got too big for them to destroy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
And they're trying to stop Mamdanni.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Now because they don't want They think they're gonna lose
if the Power Party gets goes in this direction. Meanwhile,
you've seen the right, go extreme maga and win. So
it's just like an interesting situation.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
It's also just the standpoint of calling a spade of spade.
They're less worried about losing, They're more worried about them
individually losing. I have said this before, and people can
call me out about it if they want to. I'm
getting to the point where I'm being a little bit agist, honestly,
because I am seeing too many folks that are well

(01:33:04):
beyond retirement age.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Oh, I agree, vice, scripting, jobs, responsibility, power, land, all
of this stuff from the generation whose time it is
to take over. The fact that over sixty percent, like
I'll pull the number again so I can check. But
over sixty percent of Congress is like over the age
of sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Something, that's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
That is, you were not long for this earth if
just bait, Unless you have figured out eternal life, you
are not long for this earth. That you should be
letting the people who are now supposed to inherit the
earth be the ones to make decisions for how they
want the world to be.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
That is why we keep running into goddamn trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Yeah, yeah, great points, Winston. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I squalla, I'm not doing it. I need John Stewart
on the big screen hashtag lanterns.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
Yeah, I just also I need on the big screen.
I would love to Seejohnson in the big screen. Also,
Jesus Christ on that name. I was last time you
got you last time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Eric Slavey says to me with to me with news today.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
I try to watch her read things from each side
like a Young Turks and Daily Wire, and then form
my own thoughts from each side.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Well, God love you having the strength to watch Daily Wire.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
I can't watch Ben Shapiro for shit, man, I mean
I really can't. It's so obvious how he's manipulating narratives
and tyt as well, like the tyt's kind of turned
kind of right. Although Ana Casbaria now battling with on
that show she's on battling some of these right wingers.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
I think she's really acquitted.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Herself well in those battles because I liked her for
a long time. But when they veered kind of right
after Trump win, it was a little weird, you know anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
So just just I'll do the house in a second.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
But yeah, I was spot on with the Senate sixty
six senators are of the age sixty or higher.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
You do not make up sixty six percent of the
of population, and yet you somehow make up sixty six
percent of the people that help run the fucking and
that's just the Senate.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I didn't even get to the house yet. Yeah. I'm
with you, dude, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
You got to start cleaning houses old people, you really do.
And you've made enough if you if you if you're
still if you're still need Congress money, then you haven't
invested wisely and it's not our responsibility to keep you
in that position anymore. Wayne Edwards says Roca, I agreed
with you that Gunn was talking way too much. Yes,
he should let the movie speak for itself. That said,
Winston made a lot of sense explaining why Gunn did

(01:35:33):
that great discussion guys love in the back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Yeah, yeah, sure, absolutely, Wayne, thank you for the message.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Absolutely, And it's it's good to have, you know, different
points of view, So it's good to have a debate
on these things. Eric Slivey says, what I think the
biggest problem with politicians and politics in general is that
they're all hypocritical and just in it for themselves and
not into making things better for the people. Well, I
think this is just like the police, where you go like, well,
these people are bad, therefore are all policemen are bad?

(01:36:01):
And that's not always the case, right, And I think
there are politicians who are absolutely selfish in it for themselves,
trying to lie in their pockets. But I do think
there are people who are actually trying to make the
world a better place in politics, and the problem is
that the people that the cynicism and the yeah, I
guess cynicism of it all is encouraging people not to

(01:36:22):
do it who would like to do better and fix
the world because of how the system is set up
and so for I can't remember the representative out of Florida,
the young, young black guy. He's fantastic. I think I
think AOC obviously, I think, oh God, just been talking. Yeah,
I think they're out here trying to make some changes.

(01:36:43):
We need more of those people and less of the
people trying to light in their pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
They just the problem is is they just have to
remain vocal because I agree with you that like no
individual group has one bad, one percent good or in
the middle. However, if you're allowing the bad part of
that said group to be the mouthpiece and you are
not loud enough to push back, you can make the

(01:37:08):
state if seventy percent of cops are doing racist or
corrupt things, and okay, there's a solid thirty that isn't
a majority of your organization is corrupt, you know what
I'm saying. So it's the same thing. If sixty six
percent of Congress, is of the Senate is worried about
nothing but old people being able to do old people

(01:37:29):
things for as long as they possibly can, then we
can make the argument that the Senate is corrupt because
they are not looking out for all Americans.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
So like, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
I think it really depends on how many people are
trying to make ways, Like the number of cops that
I've known or former cops where they were like, I'm
going to be the one to change the system, and
they got and they said this is too corrupt, I can't,
I can't do this, and they back out because of that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
So and it gets dangerous, and it getsous, right Jay,
And it's not a movie. It's not a movie. Hey,
Underscore Mobiles. As it feels like Drake is that cousin
who grew up in the white neighborhood but now goes
to the hood school. Difference being he started in his thirties.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Maybe, and especially because you're not a kid anymore, there's
a level of Like I said, there needs to be
some self confidence in just who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
Yeah, good point, but good point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Uh kJ Hey John, why are you being called negative
just because you speak truth to power? It's the standard thing,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
It happens.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
You just get used to it after a while because.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Everyone just wants to get along and go along.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
And if you're the one person who's calling people out
and look, Winston has done it as well. Kaalanowski does
it every once in a while. I mean, I think
there is this perception that I'm the only one rattling cages,
and there's a lot of people who rattle cages in
our space. They just do it at different for different things.
I just have more things than I need to rattle
the cage about, which makes me stand out in that way.
So whether I'm right or wrong, I mean, that's always

(01:38:53):
up to people to decide. Jane Score Morbiles is I
feel Winston, though I grew up in the hood, was
always into games, comics and nerdy shit, got along with everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Be genuine people will rock with you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Yes, I agree, and it's it's I know that the
campaign of it gets better was mainly for lgbtqus back
a little while ago, but it applies to everybody. If
you really are in that situation, obviously look for outlets
and look for people to try and help get you
over the hump.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
But it does get better, especially if you're true to yourself.
That's I stand by that. Cool, it's a good point.
I'm not gonna say your name again. I can only
change my name every two weeks. Sorry, Well you chose.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Live with it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Eric Slave says completely agree with you, guys. That's one
part of why I want term limits for senator slash representatives,
mainly though, because they're out of touch with what their
constituents want and neither side wants that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Yeah, Winston, would you agree with that?

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
And I also think for Supreme Court justices, I think
you can give them longer terms because there is the
level of your judgment is supposed to get better the
older you get. But I think the same thing can
imply there should have never been a reason that we
waited for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to literally die, and then
we it up in a scenario where now the court
is fully packed to one particular leaning that is supposed

(01:40:05):
to be the last passion and a completely neutral scenario,
and yet that has also gotten fully into politics.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
So yeah, yeah, in the last few decisions have been
so far in Trump's favor that it's it's mind blowing.
All of a sudden, it's six to three. What happened?
I'd like to find out? Uh Tim says, which sports
commission would make a good potus? Well, if you're asking
people on the right, I think they would say Roger Goodell.
But I think if you're asking for people on the left,
I think Adam Silver's a possibility. Well what do you

(01:40:35):
think there?

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
I mean, until I saw Adam si Rover corruptly allow
you know, didn't let Chris Paul go to the goddamn Lakers,
but you were gonna let Luca go to the Lakers,
And then you're just gonna secretly be like, oops, we
screwed up. Let's just give them the number one draft
pick for Cooper f Kiss. My ass asked fire and
Nico fire, Adam Silver to fuck that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
I'm not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Jay underscore MO was this great show as a black
guy with a wife who's Cuban, got to show love
for the black and brown connection.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Respect.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
I never catch you all live, so glad I did today.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
So are we? Thanks for being here? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Absolutely? Thank you. Tell me what does your wife make
that you enjoy eating? Bro, because Cubans make some damn
good food.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
Dude, do you do you watch The Ultimatum?

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
No? On the Netflix?

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
So they have the regular one, they're not regularly.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
The original show was all hetero couples, but they've done
two seasons now. They just wrapped up the second season
of the Queer Edition, which is all lesbians.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
Oh yes, one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
One of the black women broke up with her longtime
girlfriend to go live with somebody else for a little bit, right,
And so the other black woman she was like, wait
a minute, baby, is that what she's like? Yeah, I
made her ox tails. I told you, Mack, she.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
Can feed her ox tails.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Like I was like, hey, yo, that's the violation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
That was for me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Real quick on. So we got three more and now
we'll get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Orange Chicken John says John, you deserve the views on
the Superman reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
I don't like that comment from Christian trying a big dog.
It's what he does. Christen loves to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
And you're part of why we love him. He's a
he's a New York asshole and we give it to
him just as much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
So trust me, I'll slam his balls if he brings
it up on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Who does he think he is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
To be like, Oh man, you're lucky I didn't put
out a video. He is jealous seeing your star rise. No, No,
that's not He's helped me a lot. Like honestly, he's
given me platforms. We've been in stuff, and honestly we've
had very honest conversations about situations where I felt he's
pissed me off. We had a ninety minute conversation a
year and a half ago before I retired from the

(01:42:46):
Shortown because of how upset I was without things were going.
I ignored him for two weeks and it drove him insane.
So like we have a friendship. He just does the
things that he does, and so I pushed back when
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
To push back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
So yeah, Doug says had brek Go then did the
Epstein investigation. He would have appointed a Republican council because
of his bullshit desire to not look quote political, and
that council would have fabricated an Epstein connection to Biden's CI.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
I hate Garland so much.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
I think you're not alone. A lot of people kind
of low key blame him for what we're going through
now because he didn't move quick enough to get Jack
Smith at the beginning.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
It wasn't flawless. But I miss Eric Holder.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Aha, Yes, miss Aeric Holder Prattest three fourteen is the
last one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
He says. I'm remembering the old saying it's better to
be silent and thought a fool than to speak and
remove all doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
People are dumber now and this is my proof.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Yeah, I just I need I need people to be
honest say it again called balls and strikes. But I
also think it's okay for people to admit when they're wrong.
I know that we've also made a we've made a
space where that's not the case. And I'll be honest
with you, had had you actually been like what about
all the stuff he did in his tweets? And so
that person that said it on my stream. That's where

(01:43:58):
I again go back to the point, you were never
going to get somebody to admit they're wrong and try
and be better if you were constantly deciding that you
were going to make their life hell forever. Now, either
we want people to grow or we don't. Do not
feed me this bullshit about we're trying to make the
world a better place. If you're like there are exceptions,
there are non negotiables. For example, like I don't think

(01:44:20):
there's ever anything Harvey Weinstein could ever do to ever
be back in good graces ever, fucking like it was too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Long and too much. There's nothing he can do.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
But again, I look at Michael Vick, served his time,
is doing everything to make sure what he did does
not happen again. There should be a level of grace
of like, look at this person who grew and is
trying to atone for horrible things. That is something that
we need to We need to lift people up that
do that, and those that just double and triple down
or never apologize or never do any of that, fuck them.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
That's the difference. That to me is ultimately the difference.
There you go, beautifully, said Winston.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
I can't think of a better comment to end the
show on than what you just said, So thank you, brother.
I appreciate you madly. And thanks to everybody who joined
us tonight for the stream Labs superchats and the Lively Chat.
We had well over three hundred of you for a
majority of the show. Still two hundred and fifty right
now hanging out with us as we wrap up, So
thank you so much for hanging out with us live
to have this show. More and more people are finding

(01:45:15):
the show, so thank you for coming on, and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Please do your part.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Retweet the show, let people know about the show, Let
people come in and or let them know so they
can come and hang out with us and have fun.
This is more of the relax We're hanging out in
the barbershop having a conversation type of thing, So we
want more people to come and hang out and I
kind of put down their walls and have fun conversations
with us about crazy stuff so and everything going on
in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
But with today, let people know where they can find you.
What you got going on here coming up soon?

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
Absolutely, you can find me at the Swagy Blurn on
all platforms. You will see in a few hours out
of the theater reaction for Superman.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
I will put out my non spoiler review when I
get home and record that and get that ready for
you guys for tomorrow. I will also be I was
live on Monday. I will be live again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Let's see.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
I got Therapeuta five.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
So probably about six o'clock, about six, I will go, yeah, right,
I'll be live at eight o'clock. We'll go for a
few hours as well. You will see me on Capes
and Cows on Friday. Probably. I will wait until next
week for you know, I did my Who's on Sam's Team.
I'm gonna give you a video about the Fantastic Four

(01:46:25):
of what I actually think is going to go down
leading into doomsday. My two cents based off of some
movie evidence, off some comic evidence.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
You'll get that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
And I'm doing a big overhaul on my Patreon and
membership stuff. I mentioned it on my stream yesterday. It
will be live on Friday, but it will include all
sorts of stuff, including watch alongs. I don't know if
you knew this, Roca. I have seen every Mailbrooks movie
except for Blazing Saddles on Capes and Cows and people

(01:46:54):
lost their minds, like the way the Joker was like,
you know you kill the lose their mind like they
literally went crazy. So that will be well. Part of
the tiers is being able to do that, watch long
or stuff with me. So a lot of awesome stuff coming.
I appreciate each and everybody that was there yesterday. Hopefully
I'll see a lot of you there tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
And yeah, yeah, where the white women?

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
At the whole time, I thought RB three was just
saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
I did not realize that that was from Blason Saddles.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
The best, the best See Black's Roca. Which movie wins
July box office? I haven't seen Fantastic four. I cannot
make a guess until I see banask four. Let me
get to the screening. When I see it, I will
let you know what I think is going to happen
in the box office.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
But I have much.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
More hope for Superman than I did before I saw
the movie. I have much more hope now for it.
So asked for me stands for bro? Was that that's
what the S stands for bro?

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Hey? As for me?

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
You can follow down below, hit that subscribe button, hit
the bell butts who sho was dropping all the content.
We're doing things to all the new subscribers that have
come on to the channel over the.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Last few days, really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Doing the overhaul on my channel and the patroons and
membership just yet, I'll be launching that a little bit later,
but like certainly the overhaul on the John Roka channel,
it will be changing in the next few days. So
thank you all so much for going on the journey
and hopefully we're going to the next level with what
we're making what we're gonna do next here on the channel.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Follow me at the Roca says.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Other than that, take care of yourselves, be well, go
see Superman this weekend, hot mic coming up later on
this week, Geek Buddies again, maybe Jedi Way, and more
stuff going on here, So pay attention for it all
here on the Outlaw Nation channel for now and take
care until then. When we see you next time. From
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