The Batman 2 Script is Done, IRONHEART Reactions Spark MCU Battles

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, welcome everybody to another brand new live episode of
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I am Wo Wo.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Joined his always by the King of Swag himself, Winston A. Marshall.
How are you, Winston? What's going down? Brother? You know.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
This day, anybody that was there for Capes and Cole's
today knows. I was dealing with some crazy jack camera shit,
driving me crazy, stressing me out. My poor lady had
a job interview. She's trying to get her stuff done.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Like I I was about ready to fight.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
And then I sent this message to my building manager
like like I wrote some shit out, yeah, and like
the hood was coming out of me with what I
was writing. So I was like, I literally, I literally
was like, Apple Intelligence, can you you go ahead and
tell me what the professional way to say this was?
Some of the N words and all that stuff got
pulled out and they were like, I feel like this
was extremely disrespectful for the way that you equivoquating.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
With my time. Just however in fucking worded. I was like, wow,
AI works.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Hey, you don't hear that one too often.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's that's amazing. You gotta respect that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, Apple, intelligence coming through always in the cluster for
those kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
But we are we are excited here to be back
for the show.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I know we normally we do the show on Tuesdays,
but there was so much happening this week and just
kept getting pushed and pushed and pushed, and then today
we decided to do it live today here at five
point thirty PMPT. Thanks everybody whos joining us now right
off the bat, we had so much to get into
here talking about stuff on.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
The world events they dropped today.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They dropped new stuff that dropped today we're going to
get into and some of the older stuff that Winston
already covered on caps and cow.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So when do all of it?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So mind Joe to please remember that the stream labs
and super chats are open sending you love, send you
your questions, thoughts and comments. Read them near the end
of the show. But let's deal with the big one here, Winston,
right off the bat. I know you already talked about
on caps and cows, but I want to hear from
you on this one personally, And that is Matt Reeves'
script is done.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Batman Part two.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Here It is what a picture right, just like a
swaggering all through this thing, saying partners in crime Fighters
A yuck yuck yuk. There is Matt Reeves in the
background with his co writer Madison Toblin.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The first page of script is burnt out, but you
can see there.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But there was very clearly a Batman logo on the
top of the old school Batman logo there from the
Batman movie.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
And so this is happening.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
After several delays of sequel is now scheduled for October
first of twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Five and a half years. That's hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It'll come out five and a half years after the
original bat after the Batman made over seven hundred and
seventy million dollars in the global box office. I'm just
glad that we're gonna be starting have to know that
to hear about Matt Reeves's nuts anymore. And he has
actually the script has been turned in. It is going
to happen, it seems like. But what are your thoughts

(03:09):
on this man, because I mean, the rumors were that
it was coming in June, some people said Memorial Day.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It did make it in by June by about three days.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So there it is, and right before Superman's about to
come out here, Winston, So what are your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
On all this?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean, I'm glad that we actually got a script.
That's the first part, because I know there was some
fear about if we were about to get bladed.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, right, truthfully, we talked about it on the show.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I mean, my favorite part about this entire saga, from
the entire thing, is James going to be in Like, Yo,
how about you get off Matt Reeves nuts and let
him cook? I was like, what, James gonna become a
nineteen year old black kid?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
But I I we're here now. I am so happy
to hear that they got it where they like it.
If I had to guess, maybe they get it by
the Halloween next year like they had planned.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
But that would mean you.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Would if the script is good, you need to fast
track everything you're gonna if you're gonna really gonna make
it happen.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
It looks like two years from now, though, Winston, there's
say right now October first, twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Do you think they would? I forgot I got pushed
at twenty seven, Yeah, twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I don't know why I still thought it was twenty six,
So okay, if it's already pushed twenty seven, then take
your time then then that's that's fine.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It is what it is. What I'm interested about, though, is.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
This, since it's officially done, what do we do in
regard to the DCU is are we pulling Pattinson into this?
Are we gonna go get another Batman? We were kind
of talking about it one way.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Or the other.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I think the only way that it would honestly work
to have two Batmen running simultaneously. Yeah, I think that
really has to be an age difference here. And I
think that I know Robert Pattinson is pushing forty, but
he still looks like he's ambiguously but looking like he's
twenty nine to thirty five, somewhere in that range. They
were already talking about having the Brave and the Bold

(05:13):
Batman be older, because Damien is around not old old,
but older, so like probably late thirties, early forties. I
think you want to make sure Pattinson remains looking How
are we gonna do it with prosthetics or makeup or whatever,
remains looking young and keep that saga really distinct from then.
I'm not saying put in, you know, like Jeff Goldbloom.

(05:40):
But like you know what I'm saying, where like if
they if the person just looks significantly older than Pattinson.
So I just can't think of a forty year old
actor right now or someone that looks forty.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, I mean Pattinson is forty. John Hamm is he
already turned forty, He's thirty nine. I mean, come on, no, no, no, no,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
But by the time they're finished two years from not
gonna be forty two.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You're gonna be almost middle aged. Let that sink it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
But listen, I I know a lot of people have
been coming after me from what James gun takes, which
is hilarious. I disagree with you on the nuts thing
because the only person on his nuts was David Zaslov
James Gunn and and uh they Peter Saffron. So they
should have he should have been talking to his people.
Nobody was mad at.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Matt Reeves for not turning in the script. Nobody hounding him.
They may have been. They may have been mad.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
They were hounding James gun to tell us what is
really going on with Batman.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
They weren't hounding him to finish the script.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's a fabricated narrative that Gun created.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
He bro. So we're just gonna get the Batman.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We're just we're just gonna ignore the greatest superhero movie
of all time, the greatest Batman moved it ever happened.
You're just not gonna give us a sequel. Who's the
goddamn sequel? Oh oh, you got a family member to sick.
I don't give a fuck about it. Where's my goddamn Batman?
Like Bro, it was every note, but it wasn't Snyder
Bro bad, but it was bad.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I didn't see any of that and any of my
feed I didn't see anybody going matt right right the movie.
It was more like, James, what the fuck is up
with Batman? Give us a straight answer. That's what people
were clamoring about. But I take your point that what
you saw was different than what I saw, and so,
and I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Hating on James.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I'm just pointing certain things out in certain comments that
are self serving, and that's kind of where I go
with all of this.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
But that being said, it doesn't matter. What matters is
there is a script. Now, the question is what happens
next and Winson, I think you hit it right on
the head. What are the plans for Batman? Now? Now
we have a script?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Now officially the Batman Part two has entered the arena.
So where are we going with this? Because already it's
further ahead than Batman Brave in the bold. What are
the answers going to be from James Gun in DC
and Saffarn and.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Zaslav about what's next with their approach? And that's the thing.
We're kind of in the dark. And I know I
love people going we don't deserve they don't know's anything.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Sure, fine, we're the ones that pay the money to
go see these things, so maybe they owe us a
little bit of information about what's going on. So I
would like to know what is happening here to find
out where we're going with this Batman situation. But even
with the script in, I think things are still up
in the air.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
They're not sure.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Where they're gonna go with this, I imagine, But at
some point, hopefully we'll hear a concrete plan about what
the steps are for the Batman, because you can't have
two Batman running concurrent.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It just throws people off and so I logic, you can.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But it's gonna be it's gonna be more of a yes,
it's gonna I just got asked, because we're doing spilled
the tequila, if I would like a strawberry margarita. So
I was like, yes, I would. She got some new
glass she got she got some new glassware. She definitely

(08:47):
was to was to party a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
When we had a rough day. My lady's at the fair,
at the San Diego County Fairs. Oh nice, Yeah, I'll
be a fair a bit it. I don't go to fairs.
I don't do that fish rise. You think I get
excited about shit.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I just lost forty pounds. I don't need fried twinkies
anywhere near me. Man, So I stay away from the.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Fair or you won't kill you. Come on. It might,
but we're happy, aren't we? Once that we're happy? There's
a script. Now it's like, okay, that's one important part, right,
that's an important part.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's just just give us a But what I hope
is now that there's a script. Yeah, I hope people
just let it go, don't. We don't need news on
who the batman is for the DCU, for being honest,
we don't need it right now. Focus on Superman. That's
the only thing that matters. Superwoman's coming soon thereafter. I
think once we get to the point, once we once
we get the official announcement that the Batman Part two

(09:47):
is in production, if you want to answer the question
of who Batman is and the DCU, fine, go for it.
I think people got to chill now and not worry
about that because we have other things that.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Are coming up. I am the most excited project.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
The project I'm most excited for from dc right now
is actually Lanterns. I'm obviously excited about Superman, but I'm
a hit or missed with Superman as a character personally.
But I am excited about what they're about to do Lanterns.
Just by how it's been presented, I am so much
more intrigued about what that project will ultimately be. Every

(10:26):
time a report comes out like this just keeps getting
better and better, Like it's it's the cast, the people
that are actually writing it, the people that are directing it,
what the storyline is of Why we don't have direct details,
It's like, hey, there's some shit kind of going on
in the real world here on Earth. And it's pretty
grounded and very true detective, and then we take a

(10:47):
cosmic and keeping that vibe.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, what's not to like about that? You know?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So all of that, especially because we have had good
Superman movies before. It may have been a long time,
but we've had them. You've had good we've had good
Batman's before. Yeah, we have yet to have a good
Green Lantern. That's that's the That's the whole thing is
that we had one shot at this and it was trash.

(11:13):
So I'm more interested in seeing what Kyle Chandler clear Eyes,
Full Hearts can't lose and Aaron Pierre that's moved. That's
like what the two of them collectively in the team
behind it can do with that.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Lanterns does look like a lot of because I think
Laura Lenny's in Lanterns as well, So you've got yourself
a hell of a cast. So it's an exciting one
to look forward to. And you might be right, that
might be the one that like a lot of people
have an affinity for because Superman already, I can tell
from the online stuff it's going to be a divisive movie.
There's gonna be people coming after it. People if people

(11:48):
loving it no matter what's on the screen, and people
hating it no matter what's on the screen, and somewhere
in the middle will probably be a majority of people.
So we'll see what that's all about. I think the
Batman Part two people are very excited for and they
hope it happens, and they hope it comes through because listen,
just because the script is finished doesn't mean a movie
is going to end up happening.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Or they're going to finish the movie.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We'll see what happens with all that, because there's still
all those rumors about Warner Brothers possibly being sold, that
Zaslop is cutting off and streamlining and doing all the
things that he's doing in order to sell Warner Brothers
at some point. So what happens if he does sell it?
Does the DC stay intact or do they start all
over again. So we've got so many other factors roaming

(12:28):
on behind the scenes. But yes, Superman is a sure thing,
Supergirl is a sure thing, Lanterns is a sure thing,
and clay Face is shaping up to be a sure thing.
And we'll see what happens with The Batman Part two
and the other Batman stuff coming up down the rope.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
See ooh nice? Oh yeah, real to shit, I spill it. Damn,
that's good at hell? Fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Scott says, you'd be crazy not to make a sequel
to a movie that made seven hundred seventy million dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, I mean, where's the line on that?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Because the last night the Michael Bay Transformers film made
six hundred and fifty million dollars. They didn't want to
see one to that, So where's the line on it?
But yes, absolutely, you'd have to be crazy not to
do it. So we'll see what happens with that. All right,
let's move on to another thing here, win stunt.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
This is kind of in your wheelhouse, real like Akita?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Right Akida? As an Ema Fife once taught me how
to say it?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah dah.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
The rights are up for grabs, apparently, as this project
is now leaving Warner Brothers after more than two decades
to speaking of WB, two decades of trying to develop
a live action take on the Japanese sci fi classic Akida,
Warner Brothers is let go of the movie rights. They
reverted back to Kodansha. Oh Kodanshah, I'm sorry the Magna

(13:48):
publisher that first put out this cyberpunk story by Katsuhiro
Otomo back in nineteen eighty two. Apparently producers and talent
are said to be lining up to attach themselves to
this whole situation.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
But what do you think here, Winston.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Taikis project is gone now it's going to be open
to anybody to come in here and bid for it.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yes, I'm what I think is I am actually very
impressed with your pronunciation of shit, bro.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
You will fly it through that listen.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm a Japano file. I love a lot of Japanese
are yes, massively.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I honestly didn't know that we should talk about
this more, bro, because that that is. I got to
pick an elective while I was studying abroad there, and
of course I picked the film elective.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
All we did was watching you.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Know, the Seventh Tamurai and like all of the classic
fucking films and starting a Kaiju like all, oh man,
we'd go for a while.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Come on, anyway, Criterion.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Criterion is having a fifty percent off, say a Barnes
and Noble right now, go get all those Japanese movies. People,
all the Korusala stuff. It's fifty percent off. Go get
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sorry, go ahead in the store I got it, or
or online on in store and online for Barnes and Noble. Yeah. Yeah,
just go ahead and queue that up for later. Uh.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
But to answer your question, I mean, it bums me
out that it's not happening. But at the same time,
I'm being honest, anime and manga translations to live action
have been more failures than they have been successes, in
the same way that video games are. Now at a
certain point, somebody's gonna have to figure out the formula,

(15:21):
and it seems like we started to with video games.
So like they figured out with Sonic, they figured out
with Mario, they figured it out with Five Nights of Freddy's,
so like we are getting there. One day someone will
truly figure out how to translate anime or anime style

(15:42):
films into live action films. But hell, we can't even
necessarily agree that translating Disney animated films is working properly.
Like the first live action adaptation that I was like
that was phenomenal wasn't even Disney. It was How to
Train Your Dragon. That's the other book we gotta do

(16:03):
the review on I fucking forgot. Excuse my language, but
that's you know what I'm saying. Like, there's a part
of me that's like, that sucks, and there's another part
of me that's like, well, this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
So I hope one day that they can figure it
out and someone can have some real vision for it
and make it happen. But I am not so heartbroken

(16:28):
over it because the only positive anime adaptation I can
think of off the top of my head, like Live
Action is like the one piece show. Every other like
Death Note was trash, and I love that anime. Dragonball
Evolution was awful. That may have been one of the

(16:49):
worst movies I've ever seen, and it feels like the
worst adaptation I've ever seen. So I'm not super torn
up about it, but I would love it if they
could have to.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
And then as far as Warner Bu's giving it up, dude,
everything is in flux. The minute they said we're splitting
our shit up there, they are not in a good place.
They obviously are hoping that Superman can pull them out
of their fats, out of the fire. Yeah, but they
are not in a good place, right, No.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's a good point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
So some other adaptations. Yeah, as you mentioned one Piece,
but there was also Attack. Oh there's a sorry Cowboy Bebop.
That show was not good. No, the Ghost and the
Shell one got a lot of crap. Even though I
don't think that's a bad movie. I do understand the
white washing and the issue there. Alita Battle Angel is
kind of like a seven out of ten type of movie,
so not as strong a speed Racer is probably the

(17:40):
one that a lot of people enjoy.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
That rare one that people enjoy fat It became a
cult classic.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
People were shitting on speed Racer when speed Racer is out,
but then once you actually gave it some time, people
were like.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That was actually pretty good. Bro. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I don't really remember the movie because when I went
to see it was my early days of smoking weed,
and so I hit a blunt a little too hard
and I was in there. I passed out and I
woke up and I just saw speed jumping out in
colors and I was like, oh my god, what's happening.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh no, But I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
This thing had been in development hell for so long.
I mean it's been twenty three years. It's been at
Warner Brothers. Stephen Norrington was supposed to direct the first
adaptation with John Peters. That's Stephen Norton from Blade, but
then Lee give extraordinary Gentleman eight dirt, and so they
took it away from him. But they spent millions into

(18:35):
well into the eight figures over the next two decades
trying to get this thing to live action. Legendary was
brought on with Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Davison coming on.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Then here are the writers that.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Have gone through trying to do a pass on this,
Gary Witta, Mark Fergus, Steve Cloves, the Hughes Brothers, Jean mccallette,
Sarah and then you've had Tommy Lee Edwards, Chris West
and Ray Ly do concept, dart and story boards, and yeah,
it's been going on for quite some time. There were
production offices in Vancouver that were open and then shut
down after they spent a bunch of money trying to

(19:08):
put this thing in motion.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Garrett Hedlin was supposed to start.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
They had moved it from Japan to New York to
call it New Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
City or something like that.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Kristin Stewart, HELENEA Bon and Carter and Ken Watt the
Knobby were apparently in negotiations for a few years trying
to make this thing happen. So it was on and
it was They even had a release date for it
at some point on May twenty second, twenty twenty one.
It was going to be opposite john Wick Chapter four,
but then it didn't come to pass, and then Taykowa
Ten's won just eventually he started twenty seventeen and just

(19:38):
eventually really over the last year has been moved off
of it.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
So eight years he was.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
In production trying to make this thing happen, or in
development trying to make this thing happen.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So it's clearly a franchise or property.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
People like it's just and a lot of creative people
are attracted to try and do something, but they haven't
been able to put it together. So I'll be curious
to see where it lands. And I'm not sure where
it should go to be. I don't trust Sony to
do a good job with it, and I don't I
mean maybe I don't know. I don't where would you
go with this? I mean, Disney, I guess, but are

(20:13):
they really going to explore the darker edges of Akida?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't know if they'll do it effectively.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
What if you do it, you do it under Fox. Remember,
Disney owns everything. They can easily transition that over to Fox. Yeah,
twentieth century handle that. Yeah, that's a good point. That's
like the scary thing about a monopoly. On the one hand,
the cool thing is like, I mean, you can do
a lot of shit. On the other end, it means, damn,
you're in charge of everything.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
You could do a lot of shit. Yeah, exactly. That's
a good point. Yeah, well look back forth. So we'll see.
So we'll see what happens there with Akio.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
But it's one of my favorite's probably my favorite anim Well,
I think Ghost of Shell is my favorite, but Akida
is right behind it.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But again, I'm not a Princess Mononoke. Yeah, okay, is great.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm not as schooled on anime as other people, but
certainly those two are the ones that I go back
to all the time. All Right, I gotta get your
thoughts on this, because this is funny. Let's stay in
the video game slash Anime Realm. Have you seen the
new cast for Street Fighter the Live Action Street Fighter.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Movie heard about a new Andrew Schultz by name we
heard about Fitty said, they added Andrews to be who.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yes, so Fitty sent is playing Ballrog already.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I would have guessed. I would have guessed that.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
And apparently he's going and going under undergoing intense martial
arts training because he wants to do his own stunts.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Fitty Fitty, come on, dog, come on, dog.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I mean, I mean, remember he was supposed to be
you know, the whole story of kind of the the
name shuffle right so that they wouldn't get sued back
in the day. No please, So Ballrog was supposed to
be m Bison, like his name is going to be,
And so what it was is because Ballrog is very
clearly Mike Tyson. Yeah, didn't want to get in trouble,

(21:58):
so m Bison the name got moved over, and then
they took the name ball Rock. I'm trying to remember
what name they pulled off, but it was like a
three name switch. And so, so, yes, he's essentially training
to become an even crazier Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
But as I put up there, Jason Momoa is playing Blanca,
who will be painted in slime green and roying like
a monster. Noah Centennial, who we saw in Black Adam,
is going to be playing Ken. Andrew Schultz is playing
Dan Hippiki, a character famously Dan.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Okay, that's actually hilarious, and that's actually.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
A good fuck. I actually like that.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's I go back and forth with Schultz, but that's
actually a perfect character for Schultz to play.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
His he's supposed to be the most annoying fighter in
the street Fighter roster. So yes, I wouldn't get anything down.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
His Hidukein Sorry, his hiducn is is is essentially like
an ed version of a duke in, where like reushoot,
a fire about his just goes wow.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It barely goes an inch and then falls down. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Then you got Roman Reins playing Akuma, a demonic martial
arts warlord course with godlike power. And then Raville Peck,
a mass country singer who is openly gay, would now
be playing Vega, the mass narcissistic Spanish assassin. Andrew Koji
is playing for You, and uh Pelina Liang is playing Chunlee,
and there's even rumors that Eric Andre and this from

(23:32):
Jeff on the Hot Mike Snyder on the Hot Mic
to star as the bombastic ring announcer. Eric Andre will
be playing that and of course we just saw Eric
Andre in Ironheart, so that is the situation.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And then Walton Goggins is supposed to play the main villain.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
However, Winston this this was supposed to be under the
Philippoo brothers, who did bring her back recently and talked
to me. I love talking to me, but they stepped
away from it, and now Kitao is the one who
is direc However, there is no writer because they removed
it off their March twenty twenty six release calendar, so
there's no writer, no distributor, and production yet is supposed

(24:10):
to go into production in August in Australia. So this
is a madhouse of a project that's being put together.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I have no idea if it's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Man, because that's crazy knots, that's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I hope they figured out.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I hope they get this right because I actually really
liked the new Mortal Kombat. I'm interested to see what
they do with two. It was my favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
But like, as we were talking about the improvement on
video game movies, they were smart about it and that
they were like because I think about like Sonic, Yeah,
still focused around Sonic, but you were smart to go
get you know, James Marsden and Tika Sumter, to essentially
play the human counterparts that give you that human element,
but still focus. I think that's why I didn't like

(24:56):
Knuckles is because I didn't decide to watch the Knuckle
show so I could watch what Adam Polly just be
at Dufis. I wanted to watch a show about Knuckles
with the side of Adam Polly like we did with
Sonic and the side of James Marsen ticket somethhter so
same thing. Mortal Kombat gave us an original character, so
we got to follow the characters we know and love,

(25:17):
but had somebody as a lens. I think Street Fighter
kind of should do potentially the same thing. Maybe there's
maybe there's somebody who's covering these street fights as a reporter,
or maybe there's a new fighter that we're just learning
about and they can always add them to the game
the next Street Fighter game or something.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
But I like I like the cast so far. It's
just a lot of heavy hitters.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
God at this movie bombs though, if this this is
being like a Valentine's Day or New Year's Eve, bro
I swear to god, this feels.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Like Immortal Kombat all over again because I went to
the set visit in Australia, so they love to shoot
these adaptations down in Australia, So be curious.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
To see what the end result. But this is a
crazy cast.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
There's gonna be there's gonna be a legend dairy tails
of the ship they got into behind the scenes with
this cast. I imagine there will be two or three
fisticuffs with Andrew Schultz at some point from some of
the casts. So it's gonna be curious to see where
all of this plays itself out and how how the
reaction is gonna be. When you put this much testosterone
in one room or on one set, there's bound to

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be a lot of a lot of posturing and chests
being puffed out. I mean, Mamoa to me is the
odd odd one out on this one. Mamoa doesn't need
to do a film like this.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
He is he is. Why are you talking about it
like it's gonna be a bad film? I mean, the.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Odds are that's a powerhouse cast. If you get a
good direct, like a good writer. Yeah, what's what's to
stop this movie from actually being fantastic?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
We haven't even gotten our Tuckley yet. I can't wait
to see who Chunleye is. But I tell you right now, Yeah,
she is not willing to get said thighs or if
she does not already have, I'm like, those are the
thighs that that launched a million fighting games.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Like you you you you you can't.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That's like a that's like an automatic money. It'd be
like if you win it got blanc and you're like, Noah,
he's not green. Bro, We're just gonna make him a
regular ass, do a wild hair. What is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
He is literally a Brazilian experiment gone wrong. He needs
to be green. Like you know what I'm saying, like,
make my man's green. Don't f that up, and don't
f up chunk Le's thighs. You are you were here
for thighs?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Why I really here? That's that's the whole bro, That's
that's why I'm here. Like and for those that aren't familiar,
So the big switch with the names.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Hold on, no, hold on, it's like before we jump
into that, we gotta give of some reference framing. The
framing reference for those are thick.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
H I C C bro.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Look, if that's how I go, I'm okay like that,
that's if that's how I die.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Speaking of Joy Taylor, we'll get we'll get to talk
about her later.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But those are thighs. Those are thighs. Man.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Those Oh she's cast who's no? That was no, that's
from the legend of Chung Lee who she better not?
Better not be that woman? Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
No? They who is this cut? Did you mention this?
Mention her? Okay, hold on, let me look this woman up.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I guarantee she's a Hollywood actress. She's not gonna have
those thighs I can put.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Then she better get to work. Look. I've been doing
kettlebell swings every day, and I was doing them wrong.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I was actually doing kettlebell squats and my thighs got
bigger in just four days.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So she can do it. I believe it. Let's see.
Oh no, oh baby, you're so small. I mean well you.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Know no, no, no, no, no, Maybe they squads, God
damn it.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Prosthetic thighs on her.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Maybe Jesus Christ, Jesus, I mean you know these are Yeah,
they're not the thickest, but maybe maybe maybe then I.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Go for that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
All I know is I had cousins who they didn't
play video games at all, but they were always down
to play because they were like, you know, I'm a
thick girl.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
She thick girl. She she know how to throw it around.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I was like, yes, yes, I didn't know there was
a thing. I honestly did not know there was a thing.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I am not.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I'm not as versed in the Street Father of mythology
as I am with other games. So the idea that
her thighs were that big of a deal, I did
not know that.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
It's it's because her signature move is that her consistent
like rapid fire kick that people would choose back in
the day in the same way with Ed Honda he
would do.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Like over and over again. It's one of her like
staple moves.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And to that point, like you showed a more recent
photo of her, you look at all of the O
G drawing, it's.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
The same thing. It's like, God, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So here's the actress who's playing her. Those are beautiful
but gorgeous. Yeah yeah, I mean, those aren't the thighs
that you see in in in the pictures, for god.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Bro, even even the old school, like I'm trying to
pull up the old like pixel like eight bit just
as you can see what I'm talking about, Like hold on,
let me, let me, let me find this. I'm gonna
get you a good old photo so you can see
what I'm talking about, because they certainly did not skip around.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Now like this show is amazing because you never know
what it is that's gonna it's gonna spark this conversation
and moment version I think Wisdon would be on this
is the cosplayvors like that.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yes, yes, no, she she kills somebody and you could
tell that that's not that's not fact.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Those are muscular thought because look at when she's fully
standing right, you can see how toned they are. Yes,
can she act? That's the question? Can she act? If not?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Can you train the young lady that was cast? How
you did that? Was it the ropes? Did you do
the ropes?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know that's for your backdam Commenting on this feels
like a minefield.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Oh my goodness, it kind of is. And I'm sure
at some point somebody is going to use this against me.
If this is what takes me down.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Save lives. All right.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I've been a big boy for a while, so I
got the gis all right. I just disrespectful for my kind,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes. Oh I see, Oh Jesus is that? Oh my god,
did you go? I had another photo? Those are just
artist adaptations, right, I can tell you if it is
or not. I've played this game for a very long time.
Are too big? These are too big? Here?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Oh that's insane. That's that's that's that's crazy. That's that
is absolutely the same. But here I will show you,
uh here, this is the evolution over the years.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Okay, wow, I had no idea this was a thing.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
So yeah, so yeah, wait till you pull it up
and then you can even see you can even see
that's that's the very first rendering.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Already my girls out here in these streets.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Now, what I did notice about the most recent adaptation
that now I feel like you're take it too far.
It always seemed like she maybe has some sort of
like leggings on, like some tights. Now it just looks
like she just but naked under addresses the far right,
and I'm like, come on, guys, you gotta do her
like that you get swing it. You can at least

(33:03):
put tights on a girl.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Somebody said, somebody said, get the rock to play her.
Oh man, oh man, we got so sidetracked. I know.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
All right, So we'll see what happens with this debacle
of a movie, because I do not expect much from
that particular film. Another big bit of news and dropped
is who were just about to start the show here
Wins about an hour or two before the show, is
that Daniel RpK reported that Sony is now putting all
their Spider Man spin off movies on hold. Now, some

(33:38):
of this was reported back in January from some of
the Scoopers and what have you, but this is like.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
From Daniel RpK, who's been kind of knocking out of
the park lately.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
So this is the situation that they are pausing all
the Spider Man reboots now. And I think Comics Explained
tweeted this out, retweeted this out, and I think he
said that this is possibly because they're about to sell
the Spider Man universe to to Marvel, to.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Disney, and that may be the reason.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
They're pausing everything, is because they're lining up the sale
of the Spider Man characters and universe and all this
stuff to Sony, what do you think to.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Them all back their toys, stop making this negotiation, and
if you really want to get tricky with it, you
set it up where it's like, all right, you can
have back Spidery on film. We're gonna keep video game
stuff though, because we be cooking with that ship.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's because they animated version and an animated as Disney.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Uh you're talking about you're talking about but that's that's
feature rights.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I see what you're saying. I don't know. That's what
I'm saying. That's that's feat that's feature rights.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I get that, and I would say, you know, I
don't know if they had more planned outside of what
was supposed to be movie number three.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right, So there's that.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
But all that being said, pull that photo back up
of the said for the story. I just want to
point something out as far as like them selling it.
I mean, you can go back to that one if
you want, you know. I see they're representing these four
photos representing six movies. I see two out of six

(35:19):
good movies. I see a thirty three percent.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, because the three on the right all dog Water
just absolute trash and venom. In my opinion, I would
say one and two. I know people don't like two,
so people say like one and three and that's it.
Otherwise this has been a failed experiment in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
On per I think you're one hundred percent right.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
But I but and I also think that this suggestion
that they are possibly lining up to sell this over
to Marvel makes a lot of sense as well, because, listen,
you don't want to damage the brand by constantly making
terrible spin off movie from your Spider Man universe, because
then people might not care as much that you're going

(36:04):
to do with Spider Man, nor will they expect that
you're going to do a good job. So why not
give it some love? I mean, what we'll see what
they're gonna do with X Men and Fantastic four is
right around the corner. If they can do for X Men,
and they've already shown a track record for doing great
stuff with the Spider Man movies, can they now kind
of repair a little bit of the damage that's been

(36:24):
done with these spinoff movies by doing their own version,
having their Craven show up, their Rhino show up, their
Madam Web. You know, there's so much rich, rich stuff
in the Spider Man universe from the comic books that
Sony has really pissed away.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
So what can you do with this to redeem.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
It more bias, Like, there's so many of these spinoffs
that they can absolutely do more justice to under the
Marvel banner. I mean, and I know Marvel's shaky right now,
I get it. But Thunderbolts was good, A Fantastic four
is good. Some people are liking Ironheart, some people aren't.
But you know, there's it's getting better responses than I
think a lot of people anticipated. So like there could

(37:02):
be a slow kind of turning of the ship, all
this massive ship a little bit in a more positive direction.
Even the new Captain America Brave New World debuted number
one by a long shot in terms of in terms
of streaming movies this week so.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
On Disney Plus. So that tells you there's still a
massive interest in Marvel.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
So why not sell the Spider Man stuff to Marvel
to kind of redeem the brand?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
You know, especially if you can take a step back
and be honest with yourself and being like.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, we fucking this up, brou this is we
are not doing this justice right now, we're getting exam
for not making money.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
We kept trying to pretend and then they would say
what pissed me off, yeah, is they would do some
some marketing where they'd be like, because I had a
friend who was in Madam Webb, and I was proud
of him and the work he did. But obviously I
don't say to his face how bad the movie is
because I love him, but I'm just like, but he's like, man,
you know your boy in the MCU, and I wanted

(38:02):
to be like, actually, you're not even remotely close to
the m CU. I literally almost hit with that one time,
but I was like, I don't need to ruin his fun,
show me, show me.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The paycheck or not.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Actually, if you look at any of the movies here, uh,
there's only been two out of this entire thing that
have made a crossover into the MCU, and that would
be a Spider Man who's actually never shown up in
any of these movies, and then Venom, who was relly
there just for a post credit scene before he got
zipped back.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Otherwise, none of this is rel I mean, I think
this is the smart move.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
We'll see if they actually do it, because Tom Rothman
can be quite a stubborn person.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
And I can't remember the guy Tony.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I can't remember the guy that's underneath him that handles
the Spider Man stuff. But he's been saying that it's
the critics who are bashing these movies.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
And causing them not to do well and not their quality.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And it's like, come on, man, we all got to
live in reality at some point, balt And certainly, if
they're crashing and burning these spinoffs and getting destroyed by
the critics and not doing all the box office, then
you got to read the writing on the wall.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And so hopefully this is a thing.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
They do decide to do, but you know, we'll see
what happens with it. You just never know with that situation.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Because like I'm looking, I'm looking at this so craven
one hundred and ten budget, there's no way that the final.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Box office was sixty million? Is that real? Yeah? Sixty million? Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Venom the Last Dance one ten made four to seventy four.
The Venom movies are the only ones that have made
them any money, and they made it, but they kept
making less and less each time because then Venom two,
which was post pandemic at one ten still made five hundred.
But the Og, the reason why they're like, wait, keep
going is because venom Og was one sixteen made eight

(40:00):
fifty six.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So that makes yes, that was the big one, that was.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
You know, but morebius seventy five million dollar budget and
you ended up hitting one sixty two. Yeah, so throwing
marketing and the fact that you released it a second time, yeah,
which money off of that, and then not a web,
not a web and an eighty billion dollar budget and

(40:25):
they pulled a hundred.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
At the Worldwide Bugs Office.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Again, assuming you the kind of standard that in order
to make a profit you got to hit about one
sixty by double your production budget, you ain't even come close.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
So you you blew a movie with Dakota Johnson, Sydney Sweetey,
and Isabella Meta said like, let that sink in, because.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That's that's bad.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
All three of those ladies are separately going to be
big stars, if not already big stars.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
So to me, this is just that's the one.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
They really took the bathroom because they had no business
mess in that fucking movie up terribly.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Opening weekend for Madam Webb was fifteen million, and for
Craven was eleven. Yeah, put it too bad. It's like,
give me beyond the Spider verse and let it go.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, And the fact that Craven is the last one,
I think is a perfect ending to the to the
off versus Spider bro.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
With with with with Darren Rhino out here with Exema,
Like if if I knew that my itchy has Exima
would have given me the ability to flip jeeps, I
would have stopped trying to like cure it.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I would be like fine.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
But otherwise all it is is of course he was
out here trying to kill Craven.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
He was mad as hell, is shit beached. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I feel so bad for Alessandro Nivola because he's such
a good actor and he just got wasted in that film.
And he got kind of wasted in Many Saints of Newark,
which I think was only a middling film that was
connected to the Soprandos, and so it's he's such a
good actors, it's it's a shame to see him not
quite nail the big stuff that he needs to be into.
He was even in Jurassic Park three and that wasn't
the best love the install I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Look, they had moments.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I mean what Craven had the first ten to fifteen minutes,
which I thought was great. We had the Matt Smith
dance in Morbius, which was fun.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
You know Adrian Arjona in that one.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I personally liked Venom both at the casino and Venom
dancing in the house party.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Those those are both hilarious to me. I need more
tips on tripping balls. Yeah, exactly. Well, let's stay in
the world of Marvel.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Let's get into this big conversation here. Winston Ironheart is
out the first three episodes here, starring a pretty fantastic
Dominique Thorne. The reactions to this show have kind of
spanned the gam it. Mostly it's been received well from
critics and reviewers and punnets for the most part, especially

(43:06):
the ones.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Who've seen all six episodes.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
They say, the last three episodes are really good and
it gets better as the series goes along. But again,
it's one of these shows like Echo, that falls into
the trap of only being six episodes, and so there
have been some some conversations and people have come after
the show. I've seen your tweets, which is why I
wanted to talk about this, like, what are your feelings
about the show, and then how people are addressing the

(43:31):
Tony Tony Stark connections and having one set of rules
for one side, one set of rules for the other.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
What do you think? What's your thoughts on all of this?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
One? You know that to me is I think the problem.
I think we know the answer as to why. Because
one of the things that I've seen a lot of
people people are loving to slam, Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
She's a criminal, she's a murderer, she's this, that and
the other.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
And again, the thing that I was saying in my
tweets is I was directly always compared her Tony Stark,
where I was like, Okay, Tony Stark was the world.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
He was the merchant of death, that's what they called him.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
When he got kidnapped in the cave, he was telling
that he was out here selling these weapons mass murdering people,
and then he realized, holy crap, this is not good.
I should stop doing this, and then made an about face.
But let's take it beyond that. Let's say that's that's
it may be a moral, but that's legal.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Scott Lang was literally a convicted fellon and was about
to rob somebody yet again and got the opportunity to
be like, I'm gonna help you change your life around, bro,
and then started to turn his life around. So my
question is is what people wanted a story of? And
here is reread She's already a hero and does the

(44:51):
right thing all the time, because that's what a hero's
journey is.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
No growth whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
No, it would make logical sense that you're talking about
somebody that doesn't come from memes, from memes, that has
had despite her intelligence, has had so much taken away
from her, and in a desperate attempt to deal with
her trauma, is doing whatever it takes. She keeps saying.
A lot of people are like, well, she just keeps saying,
I'm just building it because I can. I'm like, and

(45:18):
that's where I'm like, okay, so your media literacy ain't there.
They keep cutting back to the flashback yeah, of her
stepdad and her sister, and there are which are we
how spoilery are we going?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
We can say to people, hey, we're gonna tell you what.
I will put the graphic up. We'll have to adjust
our cameras a little bit. I'll put we're doing a
little spoiler talk on Ironheart the first three episodes, So
if you want to fast forward, maybe five ten minutes
and then we'll be out of this.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
But like, I wanted to give Winston a form to
talk about this stuff. So I appreciate it, I do.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
You.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
She keeps having flashbacks to the day that two of
the most important people in her life were taken away
from her because of gun violence, and so this I
just want to build it because I can is not true,
especially if you look at Wakanda Forever and the idea
that she held onto that car, and we were trying
to figure out why as this car so special.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
She never I can't remember if.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
She ever says it one way or the other, but
we get in the flashback it is the car that
her stepdad was actually building, and so that's why the
car is so damn important to hers because it was
a totem that she had for that And she says
about her dad, Tony Stark as my dad, my stepdad
was an engineer and a mechanic. He looked up to

(46:35):
Tony and what he was able to do. So I
got even more invested in some of the stuff that
Tony built, seeing he was another kid genius like I was.
And then on top of that, because two people were murdered,
the reason she keeps doing it and she talks about
it in episode three, is purely for her to try
and make it so nobody else close to her or
from her neighborhood or anything like that is going.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
To end up dead, right.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
And then people want to be like, well, she had
no business, you know, because she's sticking her.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Nose everywhere and trying to take the cape.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
She out here murdering one guy and then she's taking
the cape, you know, the hood for her or do whatever,
and it's like, okay. So then the follow up to
that question is she saw She first asked, is anyone
gonna get hurt?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I need the money, but is anybody going to get hurt?
And they said no, we don't do that. So she said,
all right, fine, you guys are kind of you're gonna
pay a lot of money. I can do what I
need to do to protect others. Fine, I'll do that.
And then she watched one person in the crew get murked.
And then she saw this guy being more than willing,
like to straight up shoot a guard, and she was

(47:40):
beside herself, and so now she's like, oh, they lied,
They're genuinely not good, they're actually probably dangerous. So now
she's trying to figure it out so that she is
ready if they turn on her.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
They already tried to murder her.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
As an audition, So, like, all of it makes logical
sense as far as how a character would develop if
they were processing their trauma, and to not give Reread
the same space. If you want to talk about pacing,
I do think the pacing was not the best as
far as the three episodes.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, I'll give.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
You that all day, But I genuinely think we just
wanted to The writers clearly wanted to give an opportunity
for this character to be flushed out, especially because it's
not a movie, it's a mini series, so that means
you have more time and you're figuring out how to
allow her to grow into the hero she was meant

(48:36):
to be. Again, you gave Tony that space, You gave
Scott Laying that space. Thor was the biggest asshole on
the planet, was willing to start wars just because of
his warrior thirst, and his daddy had to be like, no,
you're a bitch, You're not worthy. You need to show
that you're worthy. Black Widow was an assassin. Yes, she
was forcing it as a child, but she murdered people.

(48:57):
She talks all the time about her Ledger the whole
as a rage monster that has killed god knows how
many people just because he couldn't keep his anger under control. Like,
I really need people to take a step back and
look at why they are so quick to judge the
character fully and not give this time to just blossom.
And if it's all said and done and it's just

(49:18):
a bad show, because it's a bad show. That's a
different that is a completely different story, but that's not
what's going on right now.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Honestly, Yeah, I think I agree with a lot of
what you're saying, Although I didn't think the first three
episodes were as strong as I would like them to be.
I liked Dominie Thorn and I liked what she was doing.
I liked what the show was presenting the trauma of
that all and really bringing in Natalie is her AI
so she has to confront the loss, confront the trauma.
That was genius, especially because of nowadays how we're dealing

(49:48):
with AI and how AI is just barreling through into
our lives. I think what they did there was really interesting,
and especially when she pops up for her mom and
when her mom and her are having that conversation, that
was the moment that I was like, God, I want
more with the mother. I want to see more with
her because she's been a little bit kind of sidelined

(50:08):
in the first three episodes. So seeing the kind of
emotion that she has seeing Natalie and then her saying
can you bring Gary back? Holy shit, man, that stopped
me cold watching that moment.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
So I think when it on the news exactly, and
I think when it folks, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I saw someone do that the other day.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
They took they showed a video, an AI video of
a picture they had with their mother and like it
brought it to life and did all this, and I
was scared out of my mind.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Like that was like a mirror too that she is
also terrified as far as I go.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
That's the scary part. So you see that in the
way they process it. So for me, when it sticks
with her, the show really works. It's when you bring
in the United Colors of Benaton Keystone Cops type of
three Stooges characters that are robbing stuff that were I
think it gets a little bit like ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Because the security guards look like they worked.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
The night shift at the seven eleven, and these are
people pretty acting billions or millions of dollars of equipment,
and so I think they should have uped the game
a little bit there. I think there's too many characters
and she just focused on a couple. That being said,
I think The Hoods A Brother is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Manny Montana. I think he does a really great job.
I loved him and good Girls. Yeah, great show.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I think Ramos is not quite up
to snuff to play the Hood.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
But maybe, as I've heard, the next three episodes are good.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Yeah, sure, he's going to have more room to breathe,
especially now that you know spoiler alert. I mean, would
spoiler talk that his cousin is dead, the one person
keeping him human as he slowly turned into a demon.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
So I think I think.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
All of that, and and I think the last thing
that that really like sticks out in my mind that
I think went over people's head. Yeah, you got to
remember that this AI is built off of her brain waves,
right right right, you are. They're intrinsically connected, so the
reason why when Natalie when the gun was being pointed
at Rere and she's like closed the close it, Natalie

(52:01):
froze because re Re was.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Having a panic attack.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yes, so that is it is another drawn line of
her PTSD. That's what I meant about people's media literacy
is not all the way there. That's that was actually
pretty obvious in my opinion, and so people to be
like it just doesn't make any sense. I'm like, yeah,
how how I don't get it? I And I worry,

(52:26):
I genuinely worry, not just about this show. I worry
about the state of art period, because this isn't the
first time that we have seen some stuff and from
people that we know and respect or don't know, or
that're all over the internet on all levels, have had
really bad readings of media. And I'm like, how did
you miss that? It was right there?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
So that's my incidence that the media, the pundits, the
punditry sphere, you know, is full of predominantly white pundits
who maybe don't get what's going on or understand what's
going on, or as you said, don't have the media
literacy to connect to what is being shown to them
because that's not their existence. It's not what they grew

(53:09):
up with, and so it's a different thing. So I'm
not saying that they can't get it. Of course people
can get it. But some of the media literatary, as
you said, is kind of gone, has kind of gone
by the wayside, and so it needs to get called out,
you know, it needs to get put on the table
and looked at.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
So I think it's fair.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I do think sometimes there's unfaithful arguments being or incorrect
arguments being made, like lumping in all these films, all
these shows and be like, oh, see, the old reason
people don't like it is because it's female led. That's
not the only reason. There are legitimate criticisms with each
of the shows. And to just dismiss any criticism as
just gender based, I think is incorrect. But it is

(53:46):
correct that there are people who are not lik any
shows because.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
They are female led. That is fair, you know, it's fair.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
But to say that all the criticism is only led
by that, I think is incorrect and an unfaithful argument
to make.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That doesn't help the conversation to move forward. I agree.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
We sort of touched on this a little bit with
capes and cows, not with this or but with something else.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
But this idea of.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Nobody's actually being honest, everybody's just trying to score. It's
the same argument that you and I have had bad
I mean, we seem to be more or less on
the same page with Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. But
the way that the bad faith arguments would be, it's
because I need to score one for my team. That's
all that because or the hate cells. It's one or

(54:30):
the other. That is always the case. Because again, the
truth of the matter is to pretend like there's not
a racial bias that's drying driving a lot of Caitlin
Clark and Angel Reese is to be disingenuous. It doesn't
mean that Caitlyn isn't really the main star power that's
pulling a lot of eyes in. But that's where a
lot of that is. There's a lot of people that

(54:50):
want to see this loud black woman fail. Now, she
doesn't always do herself favors if we're just being honest
the way that she sometimes goes about things, But there's
that so same thing with a lot of these shows.
I said this, I really enjoyed che Hulk. I did
not like the ending. My issue with the ending was
I don't have a problem with you doing the Kevin thing,

(55:11):
but I want to see the ending. I don't want
you to just go and then we do this and
everybody's fine and you go to jail and I did it.
That's not a fun ending. That's actually the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Of what we want.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I'm not saying it has to be a knockout, drag out,
but get more creative, maybe a little bit of a fight.
And you're like, no, no, no, no, I'm losing too much. And
then here comes Bruce.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
He saves me. I don't know, but but it wasn't
that for me. I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I thought that ending was a colossal misstep. It was
it was completely unearned, and it was meta for all
the wrong reasons. And yeah, it didn't work at all.
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
So that's the thing that's and I agree with you
liston as well.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I think the conversations in the middle are being lost
because everyone is trying to score points on opposite sides.
And it's again like everything in our world now, everything
is tribes, everything is tribalistic, everything is if you don't
think the way I think, then you're wrong, or if
you don't believe the way I believe, then you're doing
it for this reason, and you're you're either a racist

(56:07):
or a sexist, or on the other side, you know
you're a woke son of a bitch, or you know
this is bold.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
They're shoving this down on our throat. So there's you got.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
We've got to find that middle ground and having conversations
about this kind of stuff, recognizing if there are legitimate issues,
but also pointing out if people are being unfaithful in
their arguments, and so I think that's super important.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And yeah, I'll be honest with you, like people ask
I can. I can give him the occasional Okay, good
for you. He did a good thing with Trump. But
people want to know why I hate him so much
because he has made it.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Okay for people to just rage bait everything. Yes, he has.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Taken away He is essentially given the stamp of approval
to so many people to not actually be intellectual and
kind and huge U right, and took it to the
nth degree of No, I'm just gonna slam you. I'm
gonna say something, biggot and I'm gonna say something to
undercut you, and it's infected everybody. It's in my opinion,

(57:10):
worse with his base, but everybody has built has given
into the hate at this point that everything is to
slam shit. I'm not gonna pretend like I don't laugh
my ass off when I hear beach blonde, bad built,
butch body right. At the same time, I'm not saying
we shouldn't clap back, don't just sit there and keep
taking it on the chin, right, But I would rather

(57:31):
that we stop acting like assholes and actually get shit
done and protect people. You know what I'm saying. I
would prefer that we could be honest about Oh man,
this movie. This isn't because it's woman led, This isn't
because it's black lead, this isn't because it's whatever. It's
just not a good thing. But we can't do that
because while we may be saying that from a solid place,

(57:52):
there are too many people that are being like and
that's why you don't need bitches and movies.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Like that's that's literally how they talk.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
And so then in the attack on your team feels
like a vicious one.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, people say like mksemborsa is middle
ground doesn't lead to engagement, which is unfortunately with the
current economic structure of online content creation sphere demands exactly,
which is why when people come at me and go like, oh,
you suck. You don't have one hundred thousand subscribers. Yes,
because I don't try to farm it that way. Now, listen,
Christian separate situation he's got. He's not a rage monster.

(58:26):
But Christen's been doing this for twenty years. You know,
he has built in audiences that build the things that
he's got.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
He's good at it.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
But I build my way and I can look myself
in the mirror that I'm not trying to rage bait
or rage engage or.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Do anything like that. These are my legitimate opinions. And when
I'm doing a.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Review, even if I don't like it, I try to
find something that I did enjoy because honestly, when you
watch something.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
It's rarely one hundred percent everything is trash. Like.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
There are movies like that, but it's really rare. There
are some elements and even within my review and my
reaction to Ironheart, which I thought there was a lot,
there were some issues with the group and there was
some fantastical moments, it didn't really work for me.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I made sure to.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Focus on the relationship between Natalie and and re Rea
because that is a very sweet relationship. The relationship with
re Re and Alden aren Reich's character, I'm not gonna
I know it's spoil to talk about.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I don't want to spoil that far.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
And then uh, and then the Ai stuff. I thought
that was really smart to have that conversation. So to me,
there's a there's there's stuff to enjoy here. It doesn't
it didn't one hundred percent all work for me, but
there's a there's stuff to enjoy now moving forward, well,
the next three episodes fulfill that promise we will see.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
You know, I'm trying to think what I see in
the comment somebody says, what's a movie that's one hundred
percent trash? And I'm genuinely trying to think of one
and where I and where I was, because I don't
I haven't walked out of a movie, you know, since
I was like a kid. So I'm trying to think
if there's one the closest in recent memory and it
still wasn't one hundred.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Percent trash, Like I laughed, a lot. The Crow remake.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I would say it was like really like like I'm
given that like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Half a half a star, Like it's really really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
But I wouldn't say it's a complete colossal failure. There
was some cool action sequences. I like some of the music,
but like one of the things that doesn't make sense.
We were watching this man that is clearly some sort
of demon, hell spawn whatever murder all these other guards.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
None of the guards go oh hell naw and run.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
You've seen You've seen your homie put a shotgun through
his chest and hobe just and then looks up. I'm
out of there, bro, Fuck that I need just one person.
It would have been funny, but it would have been real.
And that was the one thing is that I needed
it to either be fully this is not real yea,

(01:00:54):
or this is a supernatural event with some real shit.
It's why I also can't stand most Teleperry movies, like
Straw was absurd.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
You see Straw. I don't watch his stuff, bro, I
can't patronize his stuff. I just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I tried one and I was like, oh no, but
I mean it's nice that he put sindbad in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I was happy about that. I love Synbat so it's great.
Traji is incredibly talented. I watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I only watch it because I actually auditioned for the movie.
I didn't know what the time. It was a Tyler
param movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah, you take a wild Guess what role I auditioned
for Roka. You're lighter, So what does that mean? You're
I think you're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Going off to Winston Girow for the boot Docks and Shiitase.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We talked about it last week, so that's in my head.
But yeah, what did you audition Roka?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I auditioned for. I don't know whose the idea this was.
I auditioned for like the sixty seventy year old man
that was there with his wife. Be like, see y'all,
damn kids, you don't want nothing. You just won't take whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
In what world am I older than Taraji?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
And I'm and I'm out here, be like you damn kids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Like this even makes sense? So I just was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I read the lines and I was like, this feels
like it's an older dude. I don't know if this
fits me, but I'll do the audition. Because the casting
director themselves big casting director for black film.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
So I was like I'll go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, but I just was like, and so I watched
the movie bro when they talk about all this man
does is throw trauma porn at black women.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
My god. Oh yeah. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Years and years ago, I used to work a job
testing DVDs. It was it was soul sucking hell hole
of a job. And a guy there who I really
liked and respected, was like Todder Perry was just getting
like famous for the stuff that he's doing. And he
had seen it. This is a black gentleman. He had
seen a few of these, a couple of these movies,
and he said to me, he goes, Roca, you know,
you could write this for Spanish people, and I go,

(01:02:54):
what do you mean. He's like, you could do your Latin.
You can meet the Latino Tyler Perry. And I'm like,
I am not gonna right this kind of female torture
born or trava born rather for Latina when that's insane.
I couldn't look myself in the mirror, right. But Tyler
does it and people eat it up and love it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Man, So it's crazy. He's got a empire down there
in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I mean, it also is what makes because the other
thing about it is because he bases it in so
much of like Christian everything and God will see through.
And if you do the like it's it hit the
Chitlin circuit, which for those that aren't familiar, that's essentially
the black folk think of the Bible Belt, but specifically
like black folks in the South, obviously black folk around

(01:03:37):
the country, but you specifically hit that Southern Christian black
audience total, and they latched on, especially if it always
like some of the troupes that we all laugh at,
like Medea is a big mama. We've all seen one
way or the other and things like that, those characters
do truly exist, right and then but then Jesus saves

(01:03:58):
every time. And I think it were as plays. When
he was doing the plays, I was actually like, nah,
this makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
For a play. The minute you started putting it in movies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Again, now you're hitting trauma porn because some of that
was a lot of improv and things like that, and
theater is always a little bit more fantastical.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
And now white people be like, see, this is exactly
how niggas look at him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Like so like to the fact that you had Tom Hanks,
I'm black Jeopardy being like if you either would what
is a band be a Halloween? If you could laugh
and pray in one movie? Now that's a good outing,
like I will, yes, it's so true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
You know what's crazy? He there is no white Tyler Perry.
There is no Latino Tyler Perry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
He has cornered the market if with these kinds of
movies because they have yielded successful financial returns for him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
And of course he barely pays people above above the line.
They get paid below the line.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
There's all kinds of stories about rumored allegations about how
literally paysed them and how hard he works these people
with the promise that they're going to be working in
Hollywood type of thing. And so you see that he
runs that business in a certain way. And so but
he has been able to mix faith with these trauma situations.

(01:05:19):
No other filmmakers have been able to do it consistently
at this level and this and it's it's amazing in
one way, and it's sad in another, to be honest,
because people still come back and watch this crap and
it's mind blowing to me too. And he attracts some
really fantasm I mean to Rogi Pensen is a fucking

(01:05:39):
incredible actress. Tyson was up in one of his fucking movies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I was going crazy. Did you ever see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
In twenty thirteen he put out a goddamn movie called
Temptation Confessions of a Marriage counselor did you ever see
that one? Because that was the one version or that
was a Journey. It was Journey Smolette. Journey Smolett, she cheated.
She cheated on her husband with her boss. Sheet she
got this job at this corporation. She cheated on her
husband with her boss, like one time, and there's this

(01:06:08):
big blow up, and so she automatically just starts screwing
her boss all the time because then it turns out
her boss has AIDS.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
So Journey's character.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Just automatically gets AIDS and then it's addicted to heroin.
And that's that's the price you pay for cheating on
your husband.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
One time, Like I wish you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
You've gotta be kidding me, bro, Like I'm not pro cheating,
but I'm also like, that's not to the The astronomical
odds of that happening from one stray is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
It's literally insane, Like yeah again and who's in that film,
Brandy's in that film, Kim Kardashian. But you know, oh,
he pays.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
He pays these people to be in this film and
looks no different than like Samuel L.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Jackson's in seventy films a year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Michael Caine used to be if you can meet the
quota for some of these people that totally come and
do it because they're not responsible for the content. But
it's the situation he's able to create an empire. I
don't know how the fuck we got on that from Ironheart,
but here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Well I'm gonna make a left turn here because we did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
You did mention Caitlin and Angel Reason. I did want
to talk about this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Did you see Joy Taylor's comments this week about the
situation with Caitlin Clark and the Angel Reason.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I know we're kind of where you haven't seen this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Oh, it just depends on where it is, because if
you're talking about a breakfast club interview. I did see that,
but I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
So she was speaking on the Joe Button podcast and
no I wasn't. I didn't know. Okay, she said.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
It's now and it's it's not like spun to this
whole thing where it's like Caitlyn is better than Angel.
I just said, we would not be talking about Caitlin
Clark the way we do if it wasn't for that
moment with Angel Reese. She said she is willing to
die on that hill multiple times, and this is she
says that the only reason Caitlin Clark was as big
is because of what happened with Angel Reese.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
And I think, again, we're in a place where it's
a bad faith argument.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Because Caitlyn was already becoming a transcendent superstar before the
moment with Angel Reese. People were paying attention or she
was blowing it away in college. So I think that's
a bad faith argument. They're like, well, she wouldn't be
where she was if it wasn't for Angel. That's not true.
And so to me, I think this is where the
where I think racism. I know, I think there's racial

(01:08:47):
approaches from both sides, and that to me gets a
little frustrating because we just need to hit that middle
area where we understand Angel is a damn good player.
She's breaking records. Whatever people want to make fun of her.
It's terrible that they're doing that, but she's rebounding like crazy.
She is not Caitlin, she's not a guard, she's not
Kaitlin Clark. Kaitln Clark's doing different things. And so I

(01:09:08):
don't know why people who say they don't want these
people connected constantly talk about how these.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
People came connected.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
It's just frustrating for me because it just becomes a
law of diminishing returns in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That's fair. You're not gonna like what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Okay, go ahead, Yes, but I can easily agree Caitlin
is a lot better than Angel, that I will admit
up front. If we're just talking about on the court. Yes,
it has been proven enough times. I get a lot
of the things that Angel was doing last year. But

(01:09:44):
Caitlin's game has improved and it doesn't necessarily feel it.
The biggest issue that Angel had, which was her ability
to actually score, has changed all that much. But she hasn't,
like then, become a rebounder that's also a defensive powerhouse
where she's blocking all these shots. Like if she'd added
that to a reper to our along with it, then
it'd be a different story. Either you up your defense
or you up your offense. Let's get that out of

(01:10:05):
the way up top, Phair enough Joy is right to
an extent about that. It doesn't mean that Caitlyn wouldn't
have necessarily gotten there. But let's not pretend that to
protect the white girl scenario did not amplify so much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
You had people that had no interest paying attention to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Them at all, no matter how good Caitln was, that
they would not have watched if it wasn't be like,
what the hell does she think you do? And again
you're talking about in the middle of a Trump election
year where race shit is already in the middle of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
There were so many things.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
And I take that back because they won in twenty three,
so it would have been the you can't see me
would have been twenty three. But the idea of some
black girl getting in Kaitlyn's face, this nice white girl
from Iowa that was balling out of control, how dare she?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
She's not wrong about that, mind you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Would Caitlin again have been a star on her own, Yes,
of course she would have.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I wouldn't take that away from her.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
But the controversy absolutely slingshot at her from if she
was already on the top of the rocky mountains, threw
her ass on the everest because now all of a
sudden they wanted to see the white girl ball in
these girls faces and be like, yep, see look at her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
You can't do now, who could we could see her now?

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Like the amount of people that got so rage baited
by this, which is stupid to me because we have
never said that about any of the people or any
of the men playing sports like that. That shit happens
all the time, and we've talked about this too. We
have never gotten upset about shit like that. We got
upset about dirty plays, yes, so we've never gotten upset

(01:11:44):
about a man having bravado and bragging in front of
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
The exception to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
The rule that I think was most recent was what
Halliburton's dad intentionally running on the court to go foot
that he's not, but he's also not the player that
you were a you were a family.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Get out of what the fuck are you doing? Go away?

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
That's that and so to me that was different. But
we have never when you see when you be like
him him broke up, we.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Have never small yeah, of course never.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Every time Steph does this ship and he's doing it
in front of the fans. We ain't never whenever you
see the Reggie Miller doing this with the choke, we
ain't never been like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
And so that stop, none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Anybody that was they were like, dude, shut up, what
are you talking about? And so that to me is
really where the major difference was, and that is where
Joy is correct. There is something very specific, as Malcolm
X said, the most disrespected person in America is a
black woman. The most unprotected person in America as a
black woman. The minute this black woman had the audacity

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to go up to the super talented white girl who
was out here balling her ass off in the moment
that she lost this this title. If you notice, Caitlyn
let that sho go in and give a fuck, but
everybody else started speaking for her.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Joy is right about that part.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Yeah, it's fair, Kaitlyn. Caitlyn knows it's part of the game.
She's gonna talk shit, She's gonna get shit talked.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Back and talk like so much. Yeah, I'm never gonna
deny that Caitlyn.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I mean, she was when they had that game against
when they shoved her down the game against the Connecticut
son a couple of a few days ago, like when
she started dropping those threes in that Ohio State players
face former Ohio State players face like she was jawn
to that girl because of the defense and poking her
in the eye.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
So you saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
I like that as an element of the game. I
don't like the physical stuff like uh Maybury coming in
and shoving her to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
I fucking hate that. I don't care if you're Caitlyn
or Angel or anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I hate that. I don't think that should be in
the game. But like, it is what it is. You
see it all the time. Draymond does it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Jesus whole career chos.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Barkley and Bird used to the most famous where he
tells I saw an interview where tells like, no, I
was trying to protect Bird from fighting, but it looked
like I was holding Bird together punched and they owe
me money.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I ain't even I was not setting him up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
But I think the ring thing made a star out
of Angel. I don't know if Angel would have been
as big of a star without it. So I think
Joy's wrong on that that she says it made Caitlin
the start, like I think it made Angel. It didn't
it added to Caitlin's stardom, but it didn't make Caitlyn stardom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
But what you bring up a something I hadn't thought about.
It did increase a people who don't who intrinsically don't
like black, loud, black women, or don't like black people
in general, black women in general, women's sports.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
And for being honest, this whole idea of protect women's sports,
it's from people that have never, once in their life
watched a woman's sports game, unless their daughter or their
cousin had a game they had to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Pretty Much everyone is saying protect women's sports. Just about
except for maybe Martina Navartalova, have never played it or
never been good at it or never couldn't name you
five current current female athletes aside without you can't say
Caitlyn Clark, they might not be able to need name one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I would say, I would say, you're not allowed to
say the number one person in each sports. So you
can't say Kaitlin and I'll throw it Asia Wilson in there.
You can't say Serena Williams. You can't say some Oone Biles.
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. So so take
off literally the number one of everybody. You can give
me all the number twos if you want, but you
can't say a single number one. And let's see what
you do. And I bet you a lot of people

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would be struggling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Including Riley Gaines, who's made a whole goddamn career of pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
That being a fifth place player. You should have let
her win that race.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
If she was gonna take it like this, we should
have let her win that race, for God's sake.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
What a bit. But yeah, I wanted to talk it
out with you because I had some feelings about it
and with Joy and Joy's getting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Destroyed of course from Whitlock and others, but I wanted
to kind of navigate the nuances of the things Joy
was saying so and explort.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
So I appreciate you doing that, Caitlin.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
In my opinion, we can never know because we don't
live in that other reality. I believe that Caitlyn would
have probably still gotten to the tip top of where.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
She is as far as her startup.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
However, the truth of the matter is it either would
have taken longer or or if not, that she would
have never necessarily hit the overt peat because this is
the nitrous boost, unfortunately of racism in America launched into

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a whole different area. And it's not to take away
from her talents and the fame that she already had,
but to pretend that that has not been at the
core of this. This has been If it's not the
A story, it's at least the B story this entire.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Time, and not act like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
That's my problem, and that's what we're even talking about
when we were mentioning movies earlier of like, can we
have an honest, like an honest discuss about there Is. Yeah,
this is a bad movie for these reasons versus this
was just woke, shrill shit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Now you're just being a racist asshole. Now you're just
being a sexist asshole. Like yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I saione, I saw someone I camember was I saw
one of the critics say that about Elio, which, by
the way, I got to see it is fucking really
good movie. I'm so heartbroken that a Pixar film with
a Latino lead, a Latino aunt there as the as
the co lead, is getting destroyed at the box office.
It's a damn good movie and no one says heartbreaking. Yeah,
it's so good, it's so sweet and told my language.

(01:17:36):
Being kind of a pudgy, bowl haircut kid growing up
who was beat up by bullies and was into NASA
and space and all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I will go see it. I just from the marketing
from it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
It didn't necessarily seem like something that I was innately
just like drawn to. If I'm being honest, I had
nothing to do with the main character. Most of the time.
I was like, so, wait, they're releasing Lilo and Stitch
and Lilo and Stitch at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I mean like, right, kind of yeah, kind of you
look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
But someone was getting upset because they called the coming
together the Planets the Communiverse, and they were.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Like, this is Disney pushing communism. They're not even trying
to hide it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
And I was like, are you are you a mental?
Like what is wrong with you to say something so
stupid like that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
He has done some heinous and actually deadly things. Yea,
the worst thing that Trump ever did was give the
green light for stupidity and bigotry. And it happens constantly
and it drives me crazy because I can look at
Republicans in the past, I can look I don't love
Mitt Romney, but I can look.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
At Mitt Romney and go hey a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
No, he's still a civil dude and like whatever, he's
fighting for his cause for the right reasons versus all
of this grifting shit. That is what pisses me off.
That is why when people are like, you got Trump
arrangements of it? No, I'm tired of bullshit. That is
what I'm tired of.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
People who tell you that you got Trump derangement syndrome,
have Biden derangement syndrome, Have Obama derangement syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Man, you have Pelosi derangement syndrome. Cream let's go branded
at every single point.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
And we were like, well, you don't walk around with
a Biden ad and I was like, yeah, because I
don't rock for him like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
He is a public servant. Do your job and get
the fuck on my face, like I don't need to
suck a politician's dick to support them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Never gonna notice you, guys, don't there about you? Diamond, Silk,
Diamond and Silk were the biggest I love me some
Trump and then went to the funeral in one of
them and didn't know which one was. Motherfucking witch. Like, like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
This man is cared about nobody but himself, his entire life.
Get out of my face.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
He's deporting Latino for Trump supporters. He's deporting them right
to their face. Like it's just insane to me. All
these people are like, oh no, I still bought me
my vote for him, and get out of here. Man.
It's not a could my ass anyway. All right, So
let's say some questions Becau. We gotta get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Whinstone, there was a couple more topics, but we're running
out of time, so we gotta get to it because
I gotta eat dinner as well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
So let's the questions here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
We had fifteen of them, nice, very nice, corn corn Empire,
says Winston and Roka for the wind except on Christian
Harlot Roxy one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
That's rude. That's rude as fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
You know what, corn Empire, if you had, you know,
supported me more today, I maybe could have beaten her.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
But twenty three who was beating that? For God? And
I wasn't coming even close. Bro, I think I had
like sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Nine Dalton Leprick says dog Beach recommendations in San Diego
anywhere from ocean side and south of there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
My wife, big dog and I heading there from Tempion
two weeks. I wish I could, Dalton, I don't. I
don't have a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
We take occasionally take care of my lady outlaw's sister's dogs,
but she's the one that goes to the dog parks
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
I hang out and take care of him here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
I'm not really going out to these kind of areas typers,
so I couldn't recommend anything to you. But but you know,
there's good stuff in San Diego ocean sides all right,
and you can get in some good dog beaches.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Do the research. It's there. So sorry I couldn't help them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Corn Empire says hopeful Batman of DC will be a
different actor. Oh okay, probably probably any chance Blade stinks
into Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Four, not not. I don't think Maherschela.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
No, They've got Hulk and punish her now. I don't
know that you want to slide in bleed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I think that's too much. And I also you should
watch my video.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I think the pivot for Spider Man is gonna sure
Blade and Punisher involved. I think he's going to ultimately
be the leader of the young Avengers. I don't think
he's going to be a leader on the Avengers. I
think he's going to be like the adult in the room.
He's kind of college age and most of them are
pretty young. With the exception of Kate Bishop. He's been

(01:21:49):
on the real Avengers, bitch, have been to Space. All
of the reasons why he actually understands what's going on
and can be a leader to these other young heroes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yes, so I agree with that. It's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yeah, I'm two fly GM says, let Superman have its day,
then Supergirl give us our Wonder Woman, and by then
we can have our Batman. DCU decision. Why do we
an announcement from gun now? Well, I think because there's confusion.
There's no confusion on Supergirl, there's no confusion on Superman,
there's no confusion on Wonder Woman. There is confusion on Batman,
and people want to kind of figure out what's happening.

(01:22:22):
Look again, you can say we don't need it, and
then there are other people who say we do need it,
So it's both opinions are allowed to exist in the
world that we're in now. So it's a matter of
can you figure it out and put it in motion
so people can have something to look forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Listen, the world right now is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
A goddamn shit show, so people want to escape into
their fantasies more than ever. I think F one is
going to do Gangbusters because people want to escape into
a movie like that. So them wanting to look forward
towards a Batman and get ideas about what this Batman's
going to be. That's part of the reason why people
want to know what the situation is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
And I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I tend to lean a little more towards two Fly
Cam in the sense of, like, I do think one
of the things that we're having trouble with as a
society is we can't live in the present. We're already
onto the future. And I understand the present is not
a very fun place right now, Like let's let's keep
it a buck. But I think we're eating really good
with media this year, Like yeah, and it was fantastic.

(01:23:22):
F one is fantastic, Like Superman looks like it's going
to be really good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Fantastic four like it's going to be really good. Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
I kind of agree for the time being great. The
script is there we know that Pattinson is going to
be doing his part two. Awesome. Yeah, let's be off
Batman for a while. Let's let's focus on what we
have in front of us. You know, shit, each of vegetables.
These are candy vegetables. Man, you'd be the candy yams.
It ain't even fucking broccoli. It's candy yams. Like like two.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Good point. And we've got the Bear and Squid games now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Both dropped like I forgot without corn Empire, says thoughts
On Tatsuo of The Iron Man. Please, oh man, tatsu
I remember that nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Oh god, what's his name? She? Uh yeah, Shinya Tsukamoto. Yes,
the director. I remember way back when when I was
temping for a gentleman named Charles Seegers. He won.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
He was one of the producers on What's the One
with Nicholas cag where he's the National Treasure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
He wanted to do a Japanese adaptation, so he had
me go and look.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Up a bunch of Japanese movies. I pitched him Battle Royale.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
I pitched him a bunch of things to possibly do
as American adaptations, and Tetsuo the Iron Man was the
one that we were really trying to put in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Motion because I like that movie a lot. Sounds wild.
I've never seen this before.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
It's such an awesome little nineteen eighties gem that hardly
anyone has seen. It's like a little club, but the
club is a fervent club in support of that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
So good reference corn Empire. I haven't thought about Tatsuo
the Man in quite some time, but yeah, it's an
interesting little filter my won I mean commentary on technology
from the late nineteen eighties. It's fascinating. Reggie Brown, what's up, Reggie?
He said, you guys see.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Video of a black woman demand her keys from a
North Carolina auto store because they was making fun of Juneteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
They got so much hate they had to delete their Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I did not see a video of a black woman
demand her keys from a North Carolina auto store because
they were making fun of June.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Oh I did not see this? Well, good, yeah was it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
I saw a random video and I just thought it
was like kind of snarky and not necessarily like serious
about a guy being like, hey, yo, shouldn't we be
celebrating Juneteenth because you know, set them free that day?
Like some stupid shit like that, and I was like,
you motherfuck Like I was like, that's apost funny and
not funny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Like I'm like, I'm like, I'm so mixed on that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
And especially I think the reason why it bothers me
is I remember the way I get it. Yeah, you know,
with Kwan's but I remember how that used to get
talked about. I didn't necessarily want Juneteenth to be a
federal holiday because it was just something that was very
special in Texas for black folk. The glad Moore black
folk are celebrating it and know about it now, but
they are trying to make it a joke and all

(01:26:14):
sorts of stupid shit now, So I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Agree it's terrible. So here's the story. Real Quik a
black North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
A woman waiting to have her truck service decided to
spend her money elsewhere. After two employees another customer appeared
to mock Juneteenth. The woman, who was the only black
person in Synergy Autocare in Wilson, North Carolina at the time,
told an employee to give me my fucking truck. Pull
my truck around. Please pull my truck around and give
him my truck. I don't want nothing done. Here, go
get my truck. She turned and left the store. She

(01:26:42):
was triggered by a conversation between a customer and employee.
The customer had asked why banks were closed on Thursday.
The employee responded, Juneteenth, a new holiday they started a
few years ago. The customer replied with an eye rolling,
sarcastic tone, Oki dokie, And then another Synergy employee standing
in the corner joined in, laughing, going, I know, right,
something about reparations or something, and that is what apparently

(01:27:05):
set this person off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
And you know what, good for her? Good for her?
Man joking, that's fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I mean, if you enslaved white people, they'd be celebrating
all kinds of holidays the day they were let go.
So come on, it's so, it's so fucking nuts with
these people. Just don't have even the most basic level
of empathy about a situation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And that's and that again, that is that is my problem.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
That's why I don't f with them, and I never can,
because he has made it okay to just be awful.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Oh yeah, one percent, one hundred percent. It's heartbreak.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
It's heartbreak, and that's and that we didn't get into
but that Schotus ruling today scares the living hell out
of me for what's coming, man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Because because like, look, there is a complete difference of
Aman Chung Lee like she had the thighs and like
having that joking conversation and then actually belittling fucking people
about shit, right, those are two very different things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yep, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Tim tim Bino twenty one says thoughts on the Ace
Bailey situation with the jet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Are you up on this wind? My man did not
take the plane in the Utah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I also heard that Age apparently is the most stubborn
bastard on the planet, and so like was told ahead
of time, don't draft me, I won't go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
He was. He was like, you think I get drafted him?
And now he's like, I won't go. Yeah, set out, bitch,
deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
What I really hope is we find out that As
Bailey is actually also a genius, and he's like, I
have a very promising, like engineering career, So that's fine, bro,
Like I don't need basketball. I like basketball, which is
something I hate about gen Z as they're getting into
the NBA personally, because there's something about like a bleed
for this sport that like made it so good to watch.

(01:28:53):
But at the same time, stand your ground. The Manning's
got to do that ship, so why not you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Yeah, Manning?

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Uh, who is due brees got to do that shit?
A lot of these players got to play their games
a certain way. Why not if Ace feels this way?
I know, I see a lot of pundits getting upset.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Who is this kid to do this? Man? The same
people who tell you to not stand up for yourself
or the same people will like tell you you need
to stand up for yourself. It goes it's so funny,
like you can stand up for you us only in
certain situations, not in this situation. Bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
If you're gonna tell people to stand up for themselves,
they're gonna stand up for themselves in all situations and
you need to respect that. And because these people have
never had the talent that someone like Ace Bailey has
as a player. And I'm not talking about former players,
that's a whole nother ball game. But these pundits, it's
just fucking mind blowing to me. The guy has a
right to decide where he wants to play, and if
he doesn't want to play and what has historically been racist. Utah,

(01:29:45):
that's his fucking decision, and he wants to go someplace
else make it happen, you know, And I think it's
I got no problems with what he's doing because the
ain't because Danny aingels open brick and his I'm sure
his son didn't fall far from that fucking tree.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
So no, I'm laughing because somebody goes wins, did ases
of freshmen and not the sharpest guy in the draft
according to analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
So basketball really is is everything? So staying boy, but
I don't what to tell you. That makes it all
the more impressive that he's standing his crown risk it.
I guess he's risking the biscuit. Chris Corker in forty
five fifteen's his thoughts on Zohara and Mundannie's victory in
the New York City Mayri.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Primarily, dude is going to be the blueprint for Dems
going forward. It's so quome over. I don't know much
about this guy. I didn't research much about this guy.
He won, and the voters have spoken, but I tell
you some of those videos, man, people are passionate about
supporting this dude. I was on TikTok, and so this
minute video of dude's yelling into a microphone, how much

(01:30:48):
they love so in male and female, young male and
females yelling into the microphone and making fun of Andrew
Coma like crazy. So look, I love the fact that
he scared the magas bablishment that they're trying to strip
him of his citizenship and get him deported.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
That's because they're fucking scared, and so you know I
respect that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Oh yeah, looks he feels like if AOC and Bernie
actually did the Fusion dance and became one. Because the
biggest concern that I've always had with Bernie Bernie is
oldest shit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
I don't want any more eighty something year olds running
the country. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
So as much as I like a lot of Bernie's
ideas a there was a whole other conversation about Bernie Bros.
Back in the day on top of that, where similar
to the Caitlin Clark scenario, people don't actually want to
talk about the there was some overt racism happening with Bernie,
not that he did, but that Bernie Bros. Would do,
And it was always like, that's not happening. I don't

(01:31:44):
know what you're talking about, and that is not helpful.
So to take the youth and being a person of
color of AOC, and essentially, I guess throwing the fact
that Bernie's a male, you put the two together. You
made this dude, and he has been he's been a
star on the rise. He's he's had the bars, he's

(01:32:05):
he's been in the community actually, and he was able
to harp on the right thing. Here are the things
that I want for the country, I mean for the city.
And even when he's then asked about Israel and whatnot,
he's like, Okay, I am the may trying to be
the mayor of New York. I'm the mayor of anywhere
in Israel. So I want to focus on New York.

(01:32:26):
And to continue to say that is what you should
be doing in the first place. What is actually the
title that you're taking, and what is your job. Your
job is to run New York, not to be liais
on the Israel, not to to whatever the other things
they want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
On about, exactly exactly, And that's all changing, and I
think it's great that it's changing because we allow more
people in the tent to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
So let me, let me, let me, let me be
real real quick. I love AOC. Don't don't I personally
love AOC. I know people that don't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I love her. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
We also have to understand, it's been made very clear
now multiple times that we are also still very sexist.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
We are a racist country. We're a sexist country.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Just by the nature of him being a male takes
one of those things out of the way, it doesn't
mean he's not getting attacked. Left him right, because the
Islamophobia has been insane, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
It was like, how could New York who suffered nine
to eleven elect the guy who is Muslims like his
mom is meer Naire, who's a director, a fucking Hollywood
film director.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
You know, this is it's all fear. It's all fear
because this is what they fear.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
The weaponizing of AOC can destroy MAGA, and they're fucking
afraid of that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Did you did you see somebody that after Charlie Kirk
posted that nonsense about you know, when muslim attach nine
to eleven two thousand some lives.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Community college drop out. Charlie Kirk, Yes, yes, well, well
that's actually part of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
He said something along the lines of like, yeah, like
you said, the two thousand something lives were lost when
a Muslim attack New York, and now we're gonna let
a Muslim lead New York.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
It seems stupid. Somebody on Tiktoko's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Well, the largest shooting that has ever happened on American
soil was by a white man college dropout. So Charlie Kirk,
we're just gonna let you continue to have a mouthpiece
on any sort of platform, like and with the laundul
list of like John Wayne Gayzy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
And and all the mother motherers, City Bomber, all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Went through all of them and how they were related
to Charlie Kirk as a white man, or as a
white dropout, or as all these things, and I'm just like,
that's the fucking truth.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Please, Derek, what's up? Derek.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Derek Johnson ninety one twenty one says, Hey, everybody, sorry,
can't stay long. I want to stay. I want to
say stay safe out there. I don't want to bring
the show down. But if anybody needs immigration help, I
have a former Chief Judge, Ryan Wood, who now works
with Emeritus Law and other judges helping in immigration. Oh
that's great, Derek, you're the man. Yeah, reach out to Derek,
let him know if you've got any of those problems

(01:34:56):
going on. And certainly with what happened today, I feel
like all bets are off. They feel like they have
they might be stripping people of citizenship, which is crazy.
So I hope, I hope this is a situation that
eventually has some legal pushback as it goes forward. But
thank you Derek for the donation, and thank you Derek
for letting people know that they can help you out

(01:35:17):
and get reached out to you for help, for.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Sure, and absolutely and real quick I see Jay Scottie
in the in the chat, name a country that isn't
racist or sexist. You're right, every country is racist or
sexist in one way or the other. But you know,
it's very interesting a lot of these other countries that
also have racism or sexism in their roots have elected women.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Yeah, yes, Germany, England, like Mexico with a female president.
Like what do we stop it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Stop pretending like we don't have a very unique extra
problem here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
We do. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
And because those countries don't put it into their ledger
that all men are created equal and all this. There's
not really a lot in their constitution that says that
kind of stuff. We're the ones that say that, so
therefore we deserve to get called on in it when
we can't live up to that kind of stuff. Derek says,
on a lighter note, loving the Ironheart series. Didn't think
I would, honestly not even close to my favorite character,

(01:36:15):
but it's growing on me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Love the channel. Roka always a good show.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Thank you Derek, Thank you Derek, thanks for supporting brother,
and good to hear your thoughts on Ironheart.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Yes, thirteen ninety is Megan the Stallion is truly oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
I know that she's more of a Japanophile than like
an Asia file, but do not do not race swap
chung Lee, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Yes the thighs, Yes, the thighs perfect archetype.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
Now go find that woman that that Asian actress that
has worked out with Megan the Stallion.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
That's what I need to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Fantastic says. One thing with being in the middle is
you don't get much attention when something is wrong. You
have to cry bloody murder for someone to notice. So
we candition ourselves to live in the extreme sadly. Yeah,
that's a fair point. Yeah, that's true. That's that's a
fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Fred, you make a really a student observation there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Brou c C Black nineteen eighty seven says Roca f
four will win the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
July box office. We'll see. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
I think it's gonna be Superman, And based off of
the things I've heard about Jurassic World, I think Fantastic
Four actually pull up number two. Everybody kept swearing Jurassic
World was gonna be number one. I get the diners,
but I heard it's bad, bad.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Yeah, I've heard it's bad as well, but that's never
stopped Jurassic Park from making a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
So who knows. Who know?

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
But if it's if it's like worse than normal, yeah,
knowing how expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Movies are now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Not according to some of these critics who love every
Jurassic Park movie, they think it's a blast an action pact,
extraordinary filing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Yeah, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Let's see here, Reggie Brown's is Richard Sherman against forty
nine ers post game exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
As far as someone talking shit, don't you ever talk
about b B, which I get it, they they did,
But you remember what also happened.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
They let that shit go after about a week. Yes,
that's that is that is the other thing about it.
And also it also wasn't in the face of a player.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
It was in an interview on a microphone where he
was yelling, now, mind you, I thought that was stupid
to leave the man alone. You decided to go and
ask him a question as he was extremely charged after
making a massive play that took him to the super Bowl,
and you want you want her to be composed, I'll
be hyped too, so like, but they let that go

(01:38:37):
after about a week or two. It was it was
saiding down, why are we still talking about Angel doing this?
Who Caitlin was doing this to other people?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Games? Before? You like that? You like that?

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Paul Hitchcock fifty three says, are we seeing the beginning
of a pedal backlash?

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I don't think. What did you do? I know that
just pop are like saying he's in too many things?
I think if he's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Really good and all, like, the reason people are complaining
about season two of Last of Us is because of
what happened to him early in the season, because he
wasn't available there for the other So there's a frustration
when he's not in something. There's frustratration when he's in something.
So I don't think a backlash necessarily. I just think,
you know, Peth's gonna do what he's gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Yeah, make his money. I mean maybe maybe if people
feel that way, but I don't. I think he's doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
I think if he delivers bad performances, then there might
be a backlash, but not now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
C C.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Blackhole says Doomsday is filming at Windsor Great Park this week.
I think this is latviia ooh interesting, interesting, Okay, take
pictures if you can. I'm not telling you telling you violate.
Cartoon Forte has the thoughts on the New York City
mayor race this week. I think we covered it, Yeah, exactly.
I hope they don't try to kill him in the general.

(01:39:58):
Andrew Cuomo said he was going to run.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
In the general to try to mess with him, and
so they'll basically hand the city over to a Republican
because these bitches can't handle this back. Eric Adams, oh god, yeah,
you lost. Take the hit. We you know, we used
to lose in this country, and be like, you know what, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Gonna do better next time now, it's always like, well,
I gotta find another way to win.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Man? Have some balls,
uh to some dignity? This is the Gilded Age is
so two things.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Matt Thomas is in here. Matt says that chun Lee
has no cakes, as Winston says with the Storm. If
she ain't tall, I don't want it. If Chuley don't
have cakes, I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Nope. That is that is that is just that is.
That is It's gonna have wild. That is kind of
a staple to her character bro.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
In the same way that is Japanese, in the same
way that Blanka is a green like hulking of a
monster that like it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Sagot is like seven foot tall.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
That's part of what it is because he's a seven
foot tall movie tie fighter, which makes him so damn dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Like there are just certain things that are just caked
into it. And it's her cakes. Just yeah, it's like
power girl.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
Don't give me a power girl who ain't got what
she's supposed to have upstairs, you know what I'm saying.
Doug Developer says, saw making two point zero in the
theaters and wow, no one laughed at the jokes and
I felt secondhand embarrassment. Is there a movie you have
seen in the theaters in which no one laughed and
made you feel which?

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Megan two point oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
He said, no one la nocause I'm going tonight. Oh yeah,
I haven't heard good things. So, uh, is there a
movie you've seen? Is there a movie in theaters you've
seen which no one laughed and it made you feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
I don't know how about this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
I've been in a movie theater where people laughed at
a serious movie, Yes, and it made me stop feeling
uncomfortable and made me enjoy it. Both Battle La and
Taken three. The audience turned on both of those movies
and started laughing. The La audience at so many of
the serious lines. It was an amazing experience in the

(01:42:17):
theater where people didn't laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
I was like, off the top of my head, I
can't think of it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, Doug, though appreciate it. Brother, Thank you,
and thanks to everyone to send in stream lab super chats.
We're a little bit over time, so we got to
get on out of here. Thank you, well over two
hundred of you hanging out with us for almost the
entire show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Thank you so much, Winston. Another fun show. Please let
people know where they can find you and follow your stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Brother. Absolutely you can see right up top there at
the Swaggy blurred Go to my YouTube channel. I got
a video out right now of who I believe will
be on Sam Wilson's Avengers Now again the caveat.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I say it early in the video. I am not
saying the end all be all Avengers.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
I'm saying at the end of Thunderbolts you get the
whole conversation about them. Now is the new Avengers the
z that there be being sued by Sam and his
Avengers team. One, I do make a Drake Kendrick joke
in there, for sure, so if you really want to laugh,
a lot of comedy and that thing. But two, my
point is this is the team that he puts together

(01:43:12):
that we'll see essentially at the beginning of Doom's day.
It does not mean that other players won't eventually join
up with him when things get serious, but this is
just who I think.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Like when you saw at the end of what was it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Age of Ultron, when Cap had his the team that
he put together, it was not the standard six that
started it off.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
It was a new crew.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
This is who I think Sam's crew that he assembles
at the time. That will that's how that will start.
So check that out YouTube dot coms. That's a swaggy blurd.
I'm gonna put out my reviews for how to Train
Your Dragon Megan two and f one in the next
if not tonight tomorrow. I'm seeing Megan tonight, So it
depends on how much I can get done before I go.
So you'll get all of that in the next day

(01:43:57):
or so, So come check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Derek is coming in late here, Derek, thank you again,
saying Roc I was reaching. I was saying to reach
out to Ryan Wood. Okay, okay, he's a good man,
an excellent former judge who I used.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
To work for. All right, Derek, good to know. Gentlemen people,
if you have.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Anyone you know who's dealing with any immigration stuff, right
this gentleman's name down, maybe you can get information or help.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
He also says, by the way, is this casting on
Street Fighter? Serious?

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Are we going campy again with Street Fighter? If Chewing
doesn't have that buff thickness, don't want it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
I think we've we've converted you, but it feels like
every brother in here's be like, yeah tongue, we ain't
got the thighs.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
I don't want it. I'm sure there's gotta be some
interesting videos on that. On her thighs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
And Derek, thank you again, support, thank you, thank you,
always love you coming on the channel.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Brother You're the best, all right. That was Winstonay's plug
at the Swagging Bird.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Don't forget to follow him and watch all this stuff
for me at the Roca says on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok
and threat it's in blue sky. But also tomorrow for
you WWE fans, I will be doing a live watch
along the Knight of Champions from riodd Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Thank god there's a supposed uh cease fire and these
WWE wrestlers will hopefully be safe. But join me tomorrow
live when I do that. Watch a long But as
Winston said, all I have my reviews as well up
for f one and for Megan too and and other
things going on. We shall look at Stuffanie's comment broke,

(01:45:30):
I'm finally understanding why I get so much love from
the brothers. I guess thighs are gold oh you can't know. Uh, hey, moms,
I will shed a Glory tire at Disney gets Spidey.
Oh little Denzel watching Glory. There you go. All right,
go see a movie, everybody. Go see the Bear, Go

(01:45:51):
see the Squid Game, and we'll talk to the brand
new episode here of Spill the Tekila. Take care you've
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