June 10, 2025 • 32 mins
If you’re tired, wired, and in pain—this one’s for you. Insomnia, stress, and chronic discomfort often show up together, and we tend to treat them like separate problems. But what if they all stem from something simple… and fixable?
Lyndsay Soprano talks with Natalie Jurado, founder of Rooted In, about the quiet power of magnesium. Not the kind in chalky pills or powders that mess with your gut—but in a cream your body can actually absorb. Natalie shares how magnesium supports everything from sleep and anxiety to inflammation, energy, blood pressure, and even mood swings.
They dig into how magnesium deficiency flies under the radar, why it's often misdiagnosed, and how most of us—kids included—aren’t getting enough. From ADHD to weight loss to workout recovery, magnesium plays a starring role in our well-being. And the truth is, food isn’t always enough.
This conversation is equal parts science and real talk. It’s about understanding your body, getting ahead of burnout, and giving your nervous system the support it’s been quietly begging for.
Tune in if you’ve tried everything for your pain, sleep, or stress—and nothing’s worked. This might be the missing piece.
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Website: berootedin.com
Instagram: @berootedin
Facebook: Rooted In
LinkedIn: Natalie Jurado
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LinkedIn: Lyndsay Soprano
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Episode Highlights:
(00:00) Introduction to Chronic Pain and Healing
(01:16) The Connection Between Insomnia, Pain, and Stress
(02:41) Exploring Magnesium for Relief
(03:38) Understanding Magnesium: The Essential Mineral
(07:13) Personal Journeys with Insomnia and Anxiety
(12:24) Creating Effective Magnesium Products
(15:37) Benefits of Magnesium for Health
(19:12) Magnesium and Cholesterol Management
(20:21) Safe Usage and Dosing of Magnesium Cream
(27:01) Magnesium's Role in Diabetes and Blood Sugar
(28:05) Magnesium for Pain Relief
(30:31) Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Lyndsay Soprano talks with Natalie Jurado, founder of Rooted In, about the quiet power of magnesium. Not the kind in chalky pills or powders that mess with your gut—but in a cream your body can actually absorb. Natalie shares how magnesium supports everything from sleep and anxiety to inflammation, energy, blood pressure, and even mood swings.
They dig into how magnesium deficiency flies under the radar, why it's often misdiagnosed, and how most of us—kids included—aren’t getting enough. From ADHD to weight loss to workout recovery, magnesium plays a starring role in our well-being. And the truth is, food isn’t always enough.
This conversation is equal parts science and real talk. It’s about understanding your body, getting ahead of burnout, and giving your nervous system the support it’s been quietly begging for.
Tune in if you’ve tried everything for your pain, sleep, or stress—and nothing’s worked. This might be the missing piece.
Find Natalie Jurado Online Here:
Website: berootedin.com
Instagram: @berootedin
Facebook: Rooted In
LinkedIn: Natalie Jurado
Find The Pain Game Podcast Online Here:
Website: thepaingamepodcast.com
Instagram: @thepaingamepodcast
Facebook: The Pain Game Podcast
LinkedIn: Lyndsay Soprano
YouTube: The Pain Game Podcast
Episode Highlights:
(00:00) Introduction to Chronic Pain and Healing
(01:16) The Connection Between Insomnia, Pain, and Stress
(02:41) Exploring Magnesium for Relief
(03:38) Understanding Magnesium: The Essential Mineral
(07:13) Personal Journeys with Insomnia and Anxiety
(12:24) Creating Effective Magnesium Products
(15:37) Benefits of Magnesium for Health
(19:12) Magnesium and Cholesterol Management
(20:21) Safe Usage and Dosing of Magnesium Cream
(27:01) Magnesium's Role in Diabetes and Blood Sugar
(28:05) Magnesium for Pain Relief
(30:31) Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
the game of living in and with chronic pain and trauma,
getting to the heart of how to heal. I am
your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
and anybody that is interested in having their voice heard
(00:26):
in the chronic pain and trauma world that we live in.
There are times when this body of mine, this body
that lives in and with chronic pain as we know,
just can't make it to the mic, into the studio.
And when that happens, I need a sometimes forced rest.
(00:49):
So we're going back to the episodes that matter the most.
This isn't a new drop, It's a replay, but not
just any replay. These are the conversations that hit hardest,
heal deepest, and stayed with you long after the credits rolled.
So whether you're hearing it for the first time or
all over again, this one's worth the listen. Let's kick
it back old school with this episode from season two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Insomnia, pain and stress.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Those are words that are spoken in my household every
frickin day, and as you all know, by now I
have issues with all three of those, amongst many others also,
as you know, and I have for as long as
I can remember. Over the years since my painful diagnosis
of CRPS coupled with lime disease, sleep has not been
(01:40):
my friend. Most of it is due to pain and
also busy brain disorder, which I talk about often, And
that busy brain disorder comes from my anxiety, panic, attacks, stress,
all of those things that we talk about a lot
on this show. So what I'm getting at here is insomnia, stress,
and pain is all connected, at least from my perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't know about you, but I'd like to sleep deeper.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'd like to stress less, and I want to feel
my absolute best, which I don't even know the last
time I felt wonderful.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That is sad to.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Say out loud without depending on Big Pharma, because you
know how I am about Big Pharma. All these addictive,
toxic supplements and medications that we take. I mean, it
just adds up and adds up in our body and
certainly our bank accounts as well.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And I mean we have spent so much money on supplementation.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
To get well, to sleep, to cure this, to cure that,
and I'm sick and tired of it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm sick and tired of being tired.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm sick and tired of migrainings, I'm sick and tired
of anxiety. And I'm still searching constantly right for us
to find some form of solution for this.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So today I would like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Rest, relief and tranquility by using magnesium. Now, before you're like,
magnesium makes me poop, just wait for our guests today
because she's going to debunk that entire stigma and chat
with us about how we can deliver magnesia straight into
ourselves so we can say goodbye to the big three,
(03:03):
which I coined for this episode, Insomnia, pain, and stress. So,
without further ado, I would like to introduce you to
my guest today, Natalie Dorado.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hello Darling, Hello, Hello, thanks for having me on. I
am psyched to talk about my favorite topic in the
entire world, magnesium.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Who'd have thought, like we're in elementary school, like I'm
going to be like a gung ho magnesium chick.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Never, never would I have thought.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Never would I thought that I would be in a
wheelchair for half of my life either, So you know,
shit happens.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So Natalie is the founder of Rooted In.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's a company with a line of therapeutic magnesium infused moisturizers, right,
not supplements.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're going to talk about that that actively.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Calm a word I'm not used to, and relax your mood.
Natalie is a sought after thought leader, educator, and speaker
and has worked at the forefront of the wellness industry
for almost a decade. She's considered an expert in all
things magnesium, and her mission is to spread awareness of
this powerful mineral to all who struggle with the Big Three,
(04:10):
like I said, amongst other ailments, to live their most
vibrant lives. And I don't know about you, but that
sounds pretty awesome to me. So all right, I'm rolling
out the red carpet for you, babe. I'd like to
start talking about what magnesium actually is.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And why our bodies need it, and then let's take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Absolutely. So, magnesium is ultra super uber trendy. Right now.
You turn on any you know, Instagram post TikTok all
over the place, and a lot of times people are like, Okay,
what is it? I need this? You know, they kind
of go bonkers for it, but it's It's all it
is is a mineral, right, It's just a mineral that
that's present in our food. It's not a drug, it's
not something you need a prescription for. It's a mineral
(04:48):
that's present in our food that we're supposed to be
getting through our diet. We're supposed to be eating all
of those mineral rich foods and drinking that mineral rich
water so that we can fuel our bodies with magnesium. This,
this mineral is responsible for over seven hundred different biochemical
reactions in your body. Whoa seven hundred things? Holy magnesium.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's also present in every single one of our trillions
of cells. So without magnesium, we wouldn't live anymore. Like
it'd be game over. So it is that vital, It
is that unbelievably important to all of our bodily functions.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean, in researching this, it's talking about regulating
muscle and nerve function, balancing blood sugar and blood pressure,
making protein and bone and DNA, supporting immune system, aiding
an energy like all of these things.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'm like, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So she has this magnesium quiz on her website, which
I took and I totally epically failed it, right, because
I know with my stuff, as you guys know, I
have a little, a cute, little eating disorder that happened
with all this pain stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So I definitely don't get a lot of the nutrients that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I need from food because food is now a bigger
challenge than it used to be for me.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So why did you even get into magnesium?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, first of all, lindsay, you're not alone. Like up
to seventy percent of our population fails to get enough magnesium.
So like, if you're hearing this, you're probably low in
magnesium too. So it is really unbelievably widespread. It's become
an epidemic because our standard American diet just isn't really
what it's supposed to be. So it really is a
huge issue in our society.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh for sure, especially here in America. I mean I
go travel into Europe, I have no issues with food.
My stomach doesn't have any problems. Wine doesn't drive me crazy. Like,
it's it's unbelievable what we do to our food here
in America. It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Absolutely, it's tragic what we allow in our food system
and what we are conditioned and programmed to eat on
a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So we just mentioned in the beginning about being psyched
about magnesium. So talk a little bit about why you're
so psyched and how you got into it, because I
know your story is similar to mine in some nature.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, absolutely, So, like most people, our solution comes from
the problems that we personally face. Right. So, I was
struggling with severe insomnia, sleeping about two hours a night,
and that two hours wasn't even two hours straight. It
was like I'd sleep and then I'd wake up, and
then it was awful. So severe severe insomnia anxiety that
just really upended my entire life, and then coupled of
(07:17):
course by panic attacks. So I'd be at the grocery store,
right in line to check out, panic attack would happened,
leave all the groceries, run out the store. So it
was absolutely like I was struggling to drive, I was
struggling to take care of my kids, I was struggling
to hold on a job, like I really had gotten
out of control. And I was doing what everybody tells
you you're supposed to do, you know, eating a good, healthy,
plant based whole foods diet and making sure that you
(07:40):
exercise regularly and take time out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Air quods for sure self care.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, of course, when people say, you know, hey, you
just have to stop stressing. Sure, I'll do that. I'll
just stop thanks man. Yeah, I just knock that off exactly.
So I was doing everything you're supposed to do, and
I was still really, really struggling. So I did what
most people, you know, most normal people do. You go
to the doctor and you say, hey, doc, i'm not working,
fix me. And so the doctor sent me to a
(08:10):
bunch of specialists. She did so much blood I took
so much blood work. I felt like a human pincushion.
And when it was all said and down done, she
sat me down and she said, Natalie, there's nothing wrong
with you. She's like, there's your blood work is perfect,
you're in range. Everything's great. And then she set me
on my way with a litany of prescriptions that all
made me feel like a grade out zombie, like it
(08:32):
made me feel like somebody had sucked all the color
out of my world and that I felt nothing. And
so in my world, I'd rather feel something than feel nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So I decided you know that the doctor was not
going to be in charge of what I consider normal.
So my blood work may have been normal, but my
behaviors and the feeling my mental health was not. And
so I decided to take control and just dive into
everything I possibly could. I did acupuncture, I met with nutritionists,
I met with dieticians, I met with energy healers, I
know chirorect I did everything.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, for sure, all the things.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All of the things. Spent all of the money and
did all of the things, and at the end of
the day. It wasn't until I bumped into a random
stranger at a farmer's market. She was an older lady,
and her and I got to talking. She's like, have
you tried magnesium. I'm like, lady, I've tried every pill
under the sun. And she's like, no, no, have you
sprayed it on your skin? Put it on your skin.
I'm like, all right, ran to the health food store,
bought a bottle of magnesium spray, sprayed it all over
(09:26):
my body, and it itch irritated and burned the heck
out of my skin. But I slept that night and
then I kept using it for a week. I went
from sleeping two hours a night to sleeping six hours night,
anxiety started to go away, did not have a panic
attack in an entire week, which was huge for me. Wow,
what made me go, wait a second. This lady at
the farmer's market, she was onto something and that spurred
(09:47):
all the research. I kind of went down the rabbit hole,
you know, I got hyper focused on it, went down
the rabbit hole and started realizing that we have a
serious problem in this country. Like people shouldn't have to
spend the amount of money that I spent on treatments
just to get no answers, especially when it's an answer
that's right there in front of us.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, and you're talking about all of the blood work,
and anybody that has been ill, chronic pain, all of us,
we've been through that litany of blood.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like you said, you're a pincushion.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I absolutely understand it, because I've been sliced and diced
and poked and prodded.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm like, I am not cattle.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like this is the worst and my body took such
a beating. I mean, at some of it's my own fault,
because you know, we all go research and Google is
our worst enemy sometimes and you're like, oh, I'll try this,
all try that, and we give everything a try because
we always say, well, let's throw more spaghetti at the
wall and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
See what sticks.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm still seeking, especially when it comes with sleep, and
pain is what keeps me up, mostly with sleep. But
I've been in insomniac since i was nine years old.
I wasn't in pain when I was nine. I had
childhood trauma, which of course came out, and you know
through this show, I'm trying to work through that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Thank you for being my therapist.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
By the way, listeners, it's pretty unbelievable that something that's
natural in our environment, in our world, magnesium of all things,
can tackle all of these ailments.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I'm just I'm I'm just stoked about it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely. It's I always like to compare it to like
gas in a car. You know, when you put gas
in your car runs because it's got the right fuel.
But when we fill our car with sugar and processed
foods and all the stuff that's not gas, then the
car is not going to work right. And we are
the same way that because magnesium is involved in all
of those different functions in our body. Without it, our
(11:32):
body just doesn't function the way that it's supposed to it.
It's a foundational nutrient that we need in order to exist.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So when you first decided, you went down all your
rabbit holes. You're reaching out to nutritionis and doctors and
all of this, and you started this whole journey for yourself.
You decided, Okay, this is helping. But you started with
that spray and it was itchy and I wreck. I
know because I did the same thing. It actually burned me.
And with CRPS, I don't know how familiar are with CRPS,
(11:58):
it's super rare. I feel like I'm on fire twenty
four hours a day from my bone marrow out from
head to toe. So for me, anything that even gives
like capsation for example, anything that has any kind of
like tingling or heat sensation, oh my gosh, it's like
I'm standing in a fireplace. So that brings really true
to me about the spray versus what your products do.
(12:21):
So I want to get into a little bit about
how you started. Now I want to do this for
a living. And your story is great with your family
packing things up in your in your living room and
then making a garage out of it, and your story
is so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah. Absolutely. So I started doing all this research and
I started thinking, Okay, we've got to take this spray
and put it into a cream, because the spray is awesome,
but it feels horrible. So I'm like, if you mix
it into a lotion and make that lotion work for us,
let's do that. And I started looking at what is
out there, and there are magnesium creams on the market. Unfortunately,
the ones that are out there are either made on
(12:57):
Etsy by some lady in her kitchen. You don't know
if her cats are dancing all around the formula.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'm dead cats dancing around the kitchen in that store.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Look, I don't need from everybody's house. I don't use
products from everybody's else.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh my god, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know, so you never really know. And the other
side of that is doesn't have a therapeutic commount of magnesium,
and you can't guarantee that when you're buying that from
somebody who's making it in their kitchen. Right, they can't
tell you how much magnesium is actually in the product.
And we know from the studies whether we need about
five hundred milligrams and magnesium chloride twice a day on
our skin in order to adequately raise adequately raise or
magnesium levels, so we know that there is a therapeutic
(13:41):
goal when we're going when we're using magnesium cream. The
other side of the spectrum is that the magnesium cream
is on the market all. The other side of that
is that they all come from like chiropractor's offices, and
they smell, look and feel like medicine. So it's like
they're sticky and they smell like your grandmother's medicine cabinet.
Like you don't want to put it on your skin.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's like, does it smell like ben gay in here
or what? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Exactly, Like you know you know who that person is
with the ben gay, I can say, right for sure.
And so like I wanted something that felt good, that
looked good, and that would seamlessly replace your regular everyday
body moisturizer. Because the truth is, especially when you've gone
down journeys like yours and eyes, where you've tried every
supplement under the sun, you are sick and tired of
(14:24):
remembering to take a supplement, and percent of the time
my ADHD kicks up and I'm gonna forget for at
least two weeks in a row, so like I needed
something that was seamless, something that like, Okay, I already
put lotion on every day, let me put on a
lotion that actually does something for me and that way
I don't have to think about it. So that was
the whole intent behind the cream, is to create something
that I can use, my kids can use, my pregnant
(14:44):
friend can use, and my elderly grandmother can use. Like
everybody can use it. And it's simple to use.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I just ordered her products actually the other day,
and so I'm looking forward to trying these out. And
I like that it's a moisturizer like you're talking about
because especially with us women every morning we get ready, we're.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Used to doing that. Men not so much.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
They stink aet moisturizing, and they stink at taking care
of their skin and their hair and all of that
because they're not myopically looked at like women are. True,
they're not waking up putting on a scare lipstick every morning,
are they.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So I want to talk about the.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Benefits of magnesium that you can see fairly quickly with
using your product, because on the show, I don't do
products like I'm doing right now. I do not do
this because this isn't a show to sell. It's a
show to help give people hope in their living environments.
But you, particularly, your story and your product is something
(15:39):
that I feel very very strong about.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So can we talk a little bit about that?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah? Absolutely So. In order to truly truly understand the
benefits of magnesium, we have to understand the symptoms. So
what it looks like what a typical magnesium deficient person
is going to look like. They're going to struggle with sleep.
They're gonna have a hard time falling asleep and staying asleep.
They're going to have restless legs, They'll have cramping and
their muscles muscle twitching. They'll have chronic headaches and migraines.
They'll have hormonal swings and hormonal issues, moodiness, irritability, mind
(16:08):
excessive mind chatter, they'll have. I mean, and if you
hear these symptoms, you're like, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You literally just listen every single thing that I do.
I like the ment that what was the mindless chattering?
That's what I call busy brain disorder. I just like
I'm trying to solve the world's problems all night long.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh yeah, absolutely, But if I think I'm God every
problem while making a real cheese right exactly, right. Yeah,
So that is that's classical symptoms of magnesium deficiency. And
the problem is it's often referred to as invisible deficiency
because if you go to your doctor with those issues,
they're not going to say, oh, that's probably low magnesium.
They're going to say, oh, you have this, you have this,
(16:46):
you have give you every other label under the sun,
which is what they did to me, and not even
discuss nutrition and the role of these minerals in our diet.
So that's why it's it's it's typically overlooked and diagnosed
for something else. So that's why it's so often called
the invisible efficiency. So when we look at the benefits
of magnesium, the benefits are when you give your body
the nutrients and minerals that it needs, it functions the
(17:07):
way it's supposed to. Right. So oftentimes I'll tell people
that magnesium is going to knock you out and help
you sleep, but it's also going to give you energy
throughout the day, and people often ask, Okay, how does
it make you sleep?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And give you energy, right, That's what I'm going to ask.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It's because it helps your body do what your body
is supposed to do. We are bodies are built to
be able to sleep at night and rest and recover,
and our bodies are built to have energy throughout the
day and be able to get all of our things done.
So it literally makes our body do what it's supposed
to do. And so it makes your body function just
in a wonderful, practical way.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And I find that it's interesting and reading more about this,
and obviously going through all of your stuff with the
fine tooth come that it also helps, like you mentioned,
boost mood, but it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Also helps with your workouts.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It helps reduce belly fat, it helps you lose weight
again because it's helping your body do what it's supposed
to do. And it sounds like magic in a jar,
right of course it does, and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, sure,
it's a cream.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Everything that I have taken over my entire journey here
with my pain, there has been only a few things
that have worked. And that was changing from normal western
medic medicine to functional That's how I found out I
had lime disease. That's how I found out I had
all these co infections around that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That's nuts to.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Me, absolutely, And it's funny you said Akiba's word your cholesterol.
So let's talk about my basic cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Because my cholesterol is three twenty five and I weigh
one hundred and ten pounds like what, and I don't
eat anything that could raise my cholesterol at all.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So it could be and I'm not, of course not diagnosing.
You speak with your functional medicine DOCTA. Yeah, I will
fine print right, but it could be due to low
magnesium so actually limits the activity of a cholesterol enzyme
called hmgash CoA reduct taste, and that ends. I'm basically
responsible for turning on and turning off cholesterol. It's your
(19:03):
on off switch for cholesterol. It's the same switch that
drugs like statins activate, right, So statins cholesterol because they
activate that same enzyme. So magnesium's job in the body
is to activate that shut off switch. And when you
don't have enough magnesium, that switch doesn't get shut off,
and so you're pumping out more and more and more cholesterol.
(19:23):
And so people find that when they start supplementing with magnesium.
They find that they one of the great side effects
is that their cholesterol starts to go down rather quickly actually,
so it really can be an effective way to intervene
with cholesterol.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So how does it work as far as dosing is concerned,
Because it is a cream, right, and so when we
think about supplements, there is a specific pill and there's
a certain amount in it. How do you actually dose
yourself when you're using the cream.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So the beautiful thing about using magnesium on your skin
is that your skin will help regulate how much magnesium
you absorb, so you can't overdose on magnesium through your skin.
I like to compare it to swimming in the ocean.
So the ocean is actually made up of thirty five
percent magnesium chloride, and we can swim all day long
like I'm a Florida girly. We're at the beach any
chance we get, and I can swim all day long.
(20:12):
And nobody ever in the history of time has ever
said get out of the water. You're going to overtow
zone magnesium. Right, So our skin will regulate how much
magnesium we do absorb, so you can use it freely
as often as needed without ever having to worry. It's
also why it's so safe to use while you're pregnant.
It's also safe to use on your children. Children desperately
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need magnesium. It is so unbelievably overlooked. There are just
incredible studies done on ADHD and children showing that the
participants in the studies who all had ADHD were just
severely low in magnesium, and when they started supplementing with magnesium,
a lot of those symptoms improved. So we are seeing
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correlations with a lot of childhood diseases and low magnesium
as well. And it's primarily because our kids are not
eating the foods that are high in magnesium, like spinach, nuts,
leafy green seeds. I don't know about you, but my teenagers,
like I have to force them to eat a vegetable.
So it's really hard to get enough magnesium into our children.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And yeah, the diet thing is a huge thing, especially
with kids.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, I've got nieces and nephews, and two of
my nephews they literally live on fast food.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's like every single thing that they pay for is
like Jack in the box and like uber eats and
door dashing and it's all this fast food that is
all they're eating. And it makes me sick to my
stomach to even think about why that's happening, much less
what they're missing out on in their development and their
focus and their mood and their sleep. These sleep they
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eat like shit and then they crash and burn and
then they have to sleep like half of the day away.
And it's really frustrating to watch because you're like, guys,
it's a beautiful day out, like let's get out, let's
go do some stuff, and they're totally tired and down,
and it's really sad because we're watching.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's like an epidemic with our kids, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We couple that with the fact that we put these
ridiculous demands on these kids, especially when they're younger, to
stay seated in a classroom for eight hours a day
and then take a bunch of tests and do homework
when they get home. I'm like, oh, my goodness, it's
awful what we're doing to our children.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It is. And COVID didn't help us either at all.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And so we've especially in the younger age brackets where
you know, they didn't have anything.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
What were they were?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They all eating McDonald's the entire time during COVID.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have no idea how any of it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Worked because I wasn't around my nieces and nephews during
that span of time. But it just it drives me
nuts that we tend to do the quick fix. Our
doctors Western medicine specifically, just like you've mentioned and I
have as well, is they're like, well, you have anxiety, well,
let's put you on an anti anxiety medication, let's do
this for depression, let's do this, and then they cause
all these other side effects and you're like, wait a second,
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so now I have to take this for that side
of that because of this pill that gave me that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And that's why I started in the beginning talking about
how I have worked very very hard to not do
the big pharm a thing, especially with my pain, and
it took me almost like dying for me to change
my mind about Western medicine. I mean, they have it
has its place, obviously, right, but in our case, for
this type of conversation, I don't feel that it does
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because a lot of doctors are now bogged down with
paperwork and they're not asking nutrition questions. They're not asking
about lifestyle. They don't have time to spend with us.
And that's what functional medicine they do. They legitimately spend
an hour and a half with you, like it's wonderful
for all of that testing. So it's clear that magnesium
changed your life. I mean that is a powerful message.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Absolutely, And and like I said earlier, you can't supplement
your way out of a bad diet. So always make
sure you're you're doing the right steps, you're taking, you know,
taking care of yourself, doing everything else because a lot
of people will say, well I tried magnesium and it
didn't and I'm like, okay, what did you eat, how
are you living? You know, what type did you take?
Don't give magnesium a bad name because you're taking it wrong,
you know, like yeah yeah yeah, so like you know,
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so I always had these follow up questions, and when
it comes down to it, most of the time they're
taking the wrong type, or they're living just a fast
food fueled lifestyle, or they're they're you know, maybe not
taking a good quality brand. So there's always more to it.
When somebody says, oh, magnesium didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
After researching so much more about this. I fell in
love with this mineral. I'm because it seems too good
to be true. But how can you Well, you know,
there are some people that don't believe in science, so
you guys can just hang up. But when it comes
to science based, you know, information, I tend to follow it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And this is this is pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Absolutely, And I always tell people everything that I'm saying
you can find it on the National Institute of Health
is actually readily available for people to find. It's just
if you don't know what to search for. Just likewise,
if you don't know which questions ask your physician, it's
hard to know to know what you don't know. And
and that kind of leads me to another thing. A
lot of people will go get their magnesium checked. They'll
go and say, hey, doc, I heard some crazy lady
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talking about magnesium. I need to get my magnesium levels sheds.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They'll go make that appointment with their physician. They get
a magnesium serum test and the magnesium comes back perfectly fine,
and then they reach out to me saying, well, my
magnesium's fine. Way, you know, does that mean they need
to supplement? Yes. One hundred thousand million percent. And the
reason why is because magnesium blood tests are not a
good indicator of overall magnesium deficiency. And that's because about
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sixty percent of your body's magnesium is stored in your bones,
the other forty percent is in your muscles, tissues, and organs,
and less than one percent is actually stored in your blood.
So if your work looks fine, that doesn't mean that
you haven't been struggling with deficiency all throughout your body
for the last ten years, even though your blood works
perfectly fine. So and physicians, unfortunately, they don't often know that.
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So it's really important to be informed and to make
sure you have these conversations with your doctors and ask
them the right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Questions and how do you get magnet zum tests then
that are accurate for with your bones and your muscles
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
So the National Institute of Help has said that there
is no accurate tests for magnesium deficiency that's available to
the public. You would have to do some of these
really wild, you know, bone tests, that is just not
something that we have access to. So what they say,
what they recommend is to go based off of your
symptomology so if you have all of those symptoms of
magnesium deficiency, try it, start supplementing with it, and if
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your symptoms go away, then you know it was just
magnesium deficiency. The beautiful thing is magnesium is safe, safe
to supplement with the only people who really should avoid
it are people who have very low blood pressure or
people who have kidney disease, as your kidney's process magnesium
and get rid of any excess, so if those aren't working,
then you could put yourself in danger. So those people
need to be cautious. But outside of that, it's relatively
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safe to use.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Does that affect people with diabetes? Just out of curiosity
in terms of does magnesium affect people with diabetes, yeah, okay, yeah.
Magnesium actually helps regulate your instantly insulin levels, so people
who have diabetes tend to benefit from taking magnesium. The
other side of that is that sugar will deplete your
magnesium levels. So for every one molecule of sugar that
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you eat, it takes fifty four molecules and magnesium to
bounce that out. So the more wow, the more sugar
we eat, the more we torture magnesium. The lower magnesium is,
the less responsive we are to insulin, so we see
that there's this real vicious cycle when it comes to
blood sugar and magnesium deficiency.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I honestly cannot even believe this conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I needed you two and a half years ago when
I started this show. Actually, then I probably wouldn't even
have a show anymore because I'd be just fine.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, everybody knows I'm crazy. I'm never going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But when it comes to the magnesium supplementation, because I've
read so much about it, especially in the pain department,
So can you touch this real quick before we hit
the dusty trail here on how magnesium can help with pain.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Absolutely, So, magnesium is responsible for relaxing our muscles. So calcium,
on the other hand, is responsible for tightening our muscles.
So essentially, when our heart beats, since our heart is
a muscle, it's calcium and magnesium doing this beautiful dance
tightening and relaxing that muscle. The issue is is that
in our standard American diet, we get entirely too much calcium.
Like the other day at the grocery store, I saw
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calcium and rich cereal, calcium and riched orange shoes, calcium
and rich bread, everything has calcium in it, and unfortunately
we're not getting enough magnesium. There isn't enough magnesium in
rich products out there to really balance that out, so
we wind up with all of this calcium, not enough magnesium,
and our muscles are constantly tight, tense, twitching, and causing
just pain throughout our body. The other side of that
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is that magnesium is an incredibly powerful anti inflammatory. There
was a study done, I believe it was back in
twenty sixteen that tested people's CRP levels right, and they
found participants that all had dramatically high CRP levels, and
after supplementing, they found that those CRPLA levels went right
back to normal. So they are seeing a really interesting
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correlation between high CRP and low magnesium as well.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wow, I'm well, like I've said, I'm kind of mind blown,
especially because we've tried so many things and it sounds
so simple. But for something so simple that affects so
many processes within our bodies, I'm just like, I'm going
to shout you off the rooftops. If this stuff works
for me, I can't even begin to explain. I'm going
to make you a millionaire. Send me an affiliate marketing link.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm in.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Seriously because in all of these conversations that I speak
with doctors and practitioners and all of this about pain,
not one time has magnesium shown up in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It is absolutely wild. I feel like Oprah needs to
do a show about magnesium. Like, honestly, I feel like
everybody needs magnesium. It's funny because in our household, anybody
has anything wrong, I'm like, you should need a magnesium
just cream on everything.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do you have stocking suffer sizes?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know everybody's getting it this year?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh my gosh, Well, this is just unbelievable. What an
awesome conversation today. Before we head out of here, is
there anything that you'd like to leave our listeners with
just to.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Not accept anybody else's version of normal? You get to
decide what your normal is. No doctor, no physician, no
one else in your world is allowed to tell you
what you consider normal. So don't give up.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh I love that for sure, Yes, absolutely, Because our
body is our body, and we do not act the
same as the person next to us.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Our bodies are not the same. And I hate that
we're treated, especially women.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
We're treated like we're making it up, or we're dramatic,
or we're emotional.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We're all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We're emotional and we're dramatic because we feel like crap
all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
We have so many bands on us all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
All the time, for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So she's got we can find her online everywhere at
be rooted in dot com. She is on Insta and
Facebook and TikTok at be rooted. And thank you for
being consistent with your handles. By the way, it's so
much easier to find you. She's got that magnesium type
cheat sheet on her website as well. I'll put this
in show notes and in social as well. And thank
you so much for educating us on this incredible magnesium
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riffic supplementation. Because the pill form I can't believe how
much of it I have in my house right now,
that's all getting dumped.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Thank you, Lindsay for doing what you're doing to really
spread awareness and just help people out all around the world.
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thanks. I'm doing the best I can, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like we said in the beginning, I had no idea
that I would ever be doing something like this, and
it is it is my joy in my world. It
is my soul food to do this show and to
meet people like yourself. So thanks so much for being here.
I really appreciate it. You are exclusively invited to share
this magnesium Riffic vip pain journey together. Let's get to
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the heart of how to heal with you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
By my side.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
There's absolutely got to be one of you out there
that needed to hear this conversation right or you know
somebody that needed to send them our way.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Both Natalie and I are here.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
We will one hundred percent answer questions that you might have.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You can reach out to me on.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Social media and I can connect you with her if
you have any additional questions about these products and about
magnesium as a whole. I would love to help all
of you guys feel better, including myself. That's what we
do here right give our pain some purpose. Please follow
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we will be there. Visit us at the paygamepodcast dot com,
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This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about
the game of living in and with chronic pain and trauma,
getting to the heart of how to heal. I am
your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, holistic practitioners, loved ones,
and anybody that is interested in having their voice heard
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in the chronic pain and trauma world that we live in.
There are times when this body of mine, this body
that lives in and with chronic pain as we know,
just can't make it to the mic, into the studio.
And when that happens, I need a sometimes forced rest.
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So we're going back to the episodes that matter the most.
This isn't a new drop, It's a replay, but not
just any replay. These are the conversations that hit hardest,
heal deepest, and stayed with you long after the credits rolled.
So whether you're hearing it for the first time or
all over again, this one's worth the listen. Let's kick
it back old school with this episode from season two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Insomnia, pain and stress.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Those are words that are spoken in my household every
frickin day, and as you all know, by now I
have issues with all three of those, amongst many others also,
as you know, and I have for as long as
I can remember. Over the years since my painful diagnosis
of CRPS coupled with lime disease, sleep has not been
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my friend. Most of it is due to pain and
also busy brain disorder, which I talk about often, And
that busy brain disorder comes from my anxiety, panic, attacks, stress,
all of those things that we talk about a lot
on this show. So what I'm getting at here is insomnia, stress,
and pain is all connected, at least from my perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't know about you, but I'd like to sleep deeper.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'd like to stress less, and I want to feel
my absolute best, which I don't even know the last
time I felt wonderful.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That is sad to.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Say out loud without depending on Big Pharma, because you
know how I am about Big Pharma. All these addictive,
toxic supplements and medications that we take. I mean, it
just adds up and adds up in our body and
certainly our bank accounts as well.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And I mean we have spent so much money on supplementation.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
To get well, to sleep, to cure this, to cure that,
and I'm sick and tired of it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm sick and tired of being tired.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm sick and tired of migrainings, I'm sick and tired
of anxiety. And I'm still searching constantly right for us
to find some form of solution for this.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So today I would like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Rest, relief and tranquility by using magnesium. Now, before you're like,
magnesium makes me poop, just wait for our guests today
because she's going to debunk that entire stigma and chat
with us about how we can deliver magnesia straight into
ourselves so we can say goodbye to the big three,
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which I coined for this episode, Insomnia, pain, and stress. So,
without further ado, I would like to introduce you to
my guest today, Natalie Dorado.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hello Darling, Hello, Hello, thanks for having me on. I
am psyched to talk about my favorite topic in the
entire world, magnesium.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Who'd have thought, like we're in elementary school, like I'm
going to be like a gung ho magnesium chick.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Never, never would I have thought.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Never would I thought that I would be in a
wheelchair for half of my life either, So you know,
shit happens.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So Natalie is the founder of Rooted In.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's a company with a line of therapeutic magnesium infused moisturizers, right,
not supplements.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're going to talk about that that actively.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Calm a word I'm not used to, and relax your mood.
Natalie is a sought after thought leader, educator, and speaker
and has worked at the forefront of the wellness industry
for almost a decade. She's considered an expert in all
things magnesium, and her mission is to spread awareness of
this powerful mineral to all who struggle with the Big Three,
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like I said, amongst other ailments, to live their most
vibrant lives. And I don't know about you, but that
sounds pretty awesome to me. So all right, I'm rolling
out the red carpet for you, babe. I'd like to
start talking about what magnesium actually is.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And why our bodies need it, and then let's take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Absolutely. So, magnesium is ultra super uber trendy. Right now.
You turn on any you know, Instagram post TikTok all
over the place, and a lot of times people are like, Okay,
what is it? I need this? You know, they kind
of go bonkers for it, but it's It's all it
is is a mineral, right, It's just a mineral that
that's present in our food. It's not a drug, it's
not something you need a prescription for. It's a mineral
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that's present in our food that we're supposed to be
getting through our diet. We're supposed to be eating all
of those mineral rich foods and drinking that mineral rich
water so that we can fuel our bodies with magnesium. This,
this mineral is responsible for over seven hundred different biochemical
reactions in your body. Whoa seven hundred things? Holy magnesium.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's also present in every single one of our trillions
of cells. So without magnesium, we wouldn't live anymore. Like
it'd be game over. So it is that vital, It
is that unbelievably important to all of our bodily functions.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean, in researching this, it's talking about regulating
muscle and nerve function, balancing blood sugar and blood pressure,
making protein and bone and DNA, supporting immune system, aiding
an energy like all of these things.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'm like, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So she has this magnesium quiz on her website, which
I took and I totally epically failed it, right, because
I know with my stuff, as you guys know, I
have a little, a cute, little eating disorder that happened
with all this pain stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So I definitely don't get a lot of the nutrients that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I need from food because food is now a bigger
challenge than it used to be for me.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So why did you even get into magnesium?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, first of all, lindsay, you're not alone. Like up
to seventy percent of our population fails to get enough magnesium.
So like, if you're hearing this, you're probably low in
magnesium too. So it is really unbelievably widespread. It's become
an epidemic because our standard American diet just isn't really
what it's supposed to be. So it really is a
huge issue in our society.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh for sure, especially here in America. I mean I
go travel into Europe, I have no issues with food.
My stomach doesn't have any problems. Wine doesn't drive me crazy. Like,
it's it's unbelievable what we do to our food here
in America. It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Absolutely, it's tragic what we allow in our food system
and what we are conditioned and programmed to eat on
a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So we just mentioned in the beginning about being psyched
about magnesium. So talk a little bit about why you're
so psyched and how you got into it, because I
know your story is similar to mine in some nature.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, absolutely, So, like most people, our solution comes from
the problems that we personally face. Right. So, I was
struggling with severe insomnia, sleeping about two hours a night,
and that two hours wasn't even two hours straight. It
was like I'd sleep and then I'd wake up, and
then it was awful. So severe severe insomnia anxiety that
just really upended my entire life, and then coupled of
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course by panic attacks. So I'd be at the grocery store,
right in line to check out, panic attack would happened,
leave all the groceries, run out the store. So it
was absolutely like I was struggling to drive, I was
struggling to take care of my kids, I was struggling
to hold on a job, like I really had gotten
out of control. And I was doing what everybody tells
you you're supposed to do, you know, eating a good, healthy,
plant based whole foods diet and making sure that you
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exercise regularly and take time out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Air quods for sure self care.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, of course, when people say, you know, hey, you
just have to stop stressing. Sure, I'll do that. I'll
just stop thanks man. Yeah, I just knock that off exactly.
So I was doing everything you're supposed to do, and
I was still really, really struggling. So I did what
most people, you know, most normal people do. You go
to the doctor and you say, hey, doc, i'm not working,
fix me. And so the doctor sent me to a
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bunch of specialists. She did so much blood I took
so much blood work. I felt like a human pincushion.
And when it was all said and down done, she
sat me down and she said, Natalie, there's nothing wrong
with you. She's like, there's your blood work is perfect,
you're in range. Everything's great. And then she set me
on my way with a litany of prescriptions that all
made me feel like a grade out zombie, like it
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made me feel like somebody had sucked all the color
out of my world and that I felt nothing. And
so in my world, I'd rather feel something than feel nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So I decided you know that the doctor was not
going to be in charge of what I consider normal.
So my blood work may have been normal, but my
behaviors and the feeling my mental health was not. And
so I decided to take control and just dive into
everything I possibly could. I did acupuncture, I met with nutritionists,
I met with dieticians, I met with energy healers, I
know chirorect I did everything.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, for sure, all the things.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All of the things. Spent all of the money and
did all of the things, and at the end of
the day. It wasn't until I bumped into a random
stranger at a farmer's market. She was an older lady,
and her and I got to talking. She's like, have
you tried magnesium. I'm like, lady, I've tried every pill
under the sun. And she's like, no, no, have you
sprayed it on your skin? Put it on your skin.
I'm like, all right, ran to the health food store,
bought a bottle of magnesium spray, sprayed it all over
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my body, and it itch irritated and burned the heck
out of my skin. But I slept that night and
then I kept using it for a week. I went
from sleeping two hours a night to sleeping six hours night,
anxiety started to go away, did not have a panic
attack in an entire week, which was huge for me. Wow,
what made me go, wait a second. This lady at
the farmer's market, she was onto something and that spurred
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all the research. I kind of went down the rabbit hole,
you know, I got hyper focused on it, went down
the rabbit hole and started realizing that we have a
serious problem in this country. Like people shouldn't have to
spend the amount of money that I spent on treatments
just to get no answers, especially when it's an answer
that's right there in front of us.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, and you're talking about all of the blood work,
and anybody that has been ill, chronic pain, all of us,
we've been through that litany of blood.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like you said, you're a pincushion.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I absolutely understand it, because I've been sliced and diced
and poked and prodded.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm like, I am not cattle.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like this is the worst and my body took such
a beating. I mean, at some of it's my own fault,
because you know, we all go research and Google is
our worst enemy sometimes and you're like, oh, I'll try this,
all try that, and we give everything a try because
we always say, well, let's throw more spaghetti at the
wall and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
See what sticks.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm still seeking, especially when it comes with sleep, and
pain is what keeps me up, mostly with sleep. But
I've been in insomniac since i was nine years old.
I wasn't in pain when I was nine. I had
childhood trauma, which of course came out, and you know
through this show, I'm trying to work through that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Thank you for being my therapist.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
By the way, listeners, it's pretty unbelievable that something that's
natural in our environment, in our world, magnesium of all things,
can tackle all of these ailments.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I'm just I'm I'm just stoked about it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely. It's I always like to compare it to like
gas in a car. You know, when you put gas
in your car runs because it's got the right fuel.
But when we fill our car with sugar and processed
foods and all the stuff that's not gas, then the
car is not going to work right. And we are
the same way that because magnesium is involved in all
of those different functions in our body. Without it, our
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body just doesn't function the way that it's supposed to it.
It's a foundational nutrient that we need in order to exist.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So when you first decided, you went down all your
rabbit holes. You're reaching out to nutritionis and doctors and
all of this, and you started this whole journey for yourself.
You decided, Okay, this is helping. But you started with
that spray and it was itchy and I wreck. I
know because I did the same thing. It actually burned me.
And with CRPS, I don't know how familiar are with CRPS,
(11:58):
it's super rare. I feel like I'm on fire twenty
four hours a day from my bone marrow out from
head to toe. So for me, anything that even gives
like capsation for example, anything that has any kind of
like tingling or heat sensation, oh my gosh, it's like
I'm standing in a fireplace. So that brings really true
to me about the spray versus what your products do.
(12:21):
So I want to get into a little bit about
how you started. Now I want to do this for
a living. And your story is great with your family
packing things up in your in your living room and
then making a garage out of it, and your story
is so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So let's get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah. Absolutely. So I started doing all this research and
I started thinking, Okay, we've got to take this spray
and put it into a cream, because the spray is awesome,
but it feels horrible. So I'm like, if you mix
it into a lotion and make that lotion work for us,
let's do that. And I started looking at what is
out there, and there are magnesium creams on the market. Unfortunately,
the ones that are out there are either made on
(12:57):
Etsy by some lady in her kitchen. You don't know
if her cats are dancing all around the formula.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'm dead cats dancing around the kitchen in that store.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Look, I don't need from everybody's house. I don't use
products from everybody's else.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh my god, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know, so you never really know. And the other
side of that is doesn't have a therapeutic commount of magnesium,
and you can't guarantee that when you're buying that from
somebody who's making it in their kitchen. Right, they can't
tell you how much magnesium is actually in the product.
And we know from the studies whether we need about
five hundred milligrams and magnesium chloride twice a day on
our skin in order to adequately raise adequately raise or
magnesium levels, so we know that there is a therapeutic
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goal when we're going when we're using magnesium cream. The
other side of the spectrum is that the magnesium cream
is on the market all. The other side of that
is that they all come from like chiropractor's offices, and
they smell, look and feel like medicine. So it's like
they're sticky and they smell like your grandmother's medicine cabinet.
Like you don't want to put it on your skin.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's like, does it smell like ben gay in here
or what? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Exactly, Like you know you know who that person is
with the ben gay, I can say, right for sure.
And so like I wanted something that felt good, that
looked good, and that would seamlessly replace your regular everyday
body moisturizer. Because the truth is, especially when you've gone
down journeys like yours and eyes, where you've tried every
supplement under the sun, you are sick and tired of
(14:24):
remembering to take a supplement, and percent of the time
my ADHD kicks up and I'm gonna forget for at
least two weeks in a row, so like I needed
something that was seamless, something that like, Okay, I already
put lotion on every day, let me put on a
lotion that actually does something for me and that way
I don't have to think about it. So that was
the whole intent behind the cream, is to create something
that I can use, my kids can use, my pregnant
(14:44):
friend can use, and my elderly grandmother can use. Like
everybody can use it. And it's simple to use.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I just ordered her products actually the other day,
and so I'm looking forward to trying these out. And
I like that it's a moisturizer like you're talking about
because especially with us women every morning we get ready, we're.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Used to doing that. Men not so much.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
They stink aet moisturizing, and they stink at taking care
of their skin and their hair and all of that
because they're not myopically looked at like women are. True,
they're not waking up putting on a scare lipstick every morning,
are they.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So I want to talk about the.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Benefits of magnesium that you can see fairly quickly with
using your product, because on the show, I don't do
products like I'm doing right now. I do not do
this because this isn't a show to sell. It's a
show to help give people hope in their living environments.
But you, particularly, your story and your product is something
(15:39):
that I feel very very strong about.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So can we talk a little bit about that?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah? Absolutely So. In order to truly truly understand the
benefits of magnesium, we have to understand the symptoms. So
what it looks like what a typical magnesium deficient person
is going to look like. They're going to struggle with sleep.
They're gonna have a hard time falling asleep and staying asleep.
They're going to have restless legs, They'll have cramping and
their muscles muscle twitching. They'll have chronic headaches and migraines.
They'll have hormonal swings and hormonal issues, moodiness, irritability, mind
(16:08):
excessive mind chatter, they'll have. I mean, and if you
hear these symptoms, you're like, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You literally just listen every single thing that I do.
I like the ment that what was the mindless chattering?
That's what I call busy brain disorder. I just like
I'm trying to solve the world's problems all night long.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh yeah, absolutely, But if I think I'm God every
problem while making a real cheese right exactly, right. Yeah,
So that is that's classical symptoms of magnesium deficiency. And
the problem is it's often referred to as invisible deficiency
because if you go to your doctor with those issues,
they're not going to say, oh, that's probably low magnesium.
They're going to say, oh, you have this, you have this,
(16:46):
you have give you every other label under the sun,
which is what they did to me, and not even
discuss nutrition and the role of these minerals in our diet.
So that's why it's it's it's typically overlooked and diagnosed
for something else. So that's why it's so often called
the invisible efficiency. So when we look at the benefits
of magnesium, the benefits are when you give your body
the nutrients and minerals that it needs, it functions the
(17:07):
way it's supposed to. Right. So oftentimes I'll tell people
that magnesium is going to knock you out and help
you sleep, but it's also going to give you energy
throughout the day, and people often ask, Okay, how does
it make you sleep?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And give you energy, right, That's what I'm going to ask.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It's because it helps your body do what your body
is supposed to do. We are bodies are built to
be able to sleep at night and rest and recover,
and our bodies are built to have energy throughout the
day and be able to get all of our things done.
So it literally makes our body do what it's supposed
to do. And so it makes your body function just
in a wonderful, practical way.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And I find that it's interesting and reading more about this,
and obviously going through all of your stuff with the
fine tooth come that it also helps, like you mentioned,
boost mood, but it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Also helps with your workouts.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It helps reduce belly fat, it helps you lose weight
again because it's helping your body do what it's supposed
to do. And it sounds like magic in a jar,
right of course it does, and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, sure,
it's a cream.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Everything that I have taken over my entire journey here
with my pain, there has been only a few things
that have worked. And that was changing from normal western
medic medicine to functional That's how I found out I
had lime disease. That's how I found out I had
all these co infections around that.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That's nuts to.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Me, absolutely, And it's funny you said Akiba's word your cholesterol.
So let's talk about my basic cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Because my cholesterol is three twenty five and I weigh
one hundred and ten pounds like what, and I don't
eat anything that could raise my cholesterol at all.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So it could be and I'm not, of course not diagnosing.
You speak with your functional medicine DOCTA. Yeah, I will
fine print right, but it could be due to low
magnesium so actually limits the activity of a cholesterol enzyme
called hmgash CoA reduct taste, and that ends. I'm basically
responsible for turning on and turning off cholesterol. It's your
(19:03):
on off switch for cholesterol. It's the same switch that
drugs like statins activate, right, So statins cholesterol because they
activate that same enzyme. So magnesium's job in the body
is to activate that shut off switch. And when you
don't have enough magnesium, that switch doesn't get shut off,
and so you're pumping out more and more and more cholesterol.
(19:23):
And so people find that when they start supplementing with magnesium.
They find that they one of the great side effects
is that their cholesterol starts to go down rather quickly actually,
so it really can be an effective way to intervene
with cholesterol.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So how does it work as far as dosing is concerned,
Because it is a cream, right, and so when we
think about supplements, there is a specific pill and there's
a certain amount in it. How do you actually dose
yourself when you're using the cream.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So the beautiful thing about using magnesium on your skin
is that your skin will help regulate how much magnesium
you absorb, so you can't overdose on magnesium through your skin.
I like to compare it to swimming in the ocean.
So the ocean is actually made up of thirty five
percent magnesium chloride, and we can swim all day long
like I'm a Florida girly. We're at the beach any
chance we get, and I can swim all day long.
(20:12):
And nobody ever in the history of time has ever
said get out of the water. You're going to overtow
zone magnesium. Right, So our skin will regulate how much
magnesium we do absorb, so you can use it freely
as often as needed without ever having to worry. It's
also why it's so safe to use while you're pregnant.
It's also safe to use on your children. Children desperately
(20:35):
need magnesium. It is so unbelievably overlooked. There are just
incredible studies done on ADHD and children showing that the
participants in the studies who all had ADHD were just
severely low in magnesium, and when they started supplementing with magnesium,
a lot of those symptoms improved. So we are seeing
(20:55):
correlations with a lot of childhood diseases and low magnesium
as well. And it's primarily because our kids are not
eating the foods that are high in magnesium, like spinach, nuts,
leafy green seeds. I don't know about you, but my teenagers,
like I have to force them to eat a vegetable.
So it's really hard to get enough magnesium into our children.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And yeah, the diet thing is a huge thing, especially
with kids.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, I've got nieces and nephews, and two of
my nephews they literally live on fast food.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's like every single thing that they pay for is
like Jack in the box and like uber eats and
door dashing and it's all this fast food that is
all they're eating. And it makes me sick to my
stomach to even think about why that's happening, much less
what they're missing out on in their development and their
focus and their mood and their sleep. These sleep they
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eat like shit and then they crash and burn and
then they have to sleep like half of the day away.
And it's really frustrating to watch because you're like, guys,
it's a beautiful day out, like let's get out, let's
go do some stuff, and they're totally tired and down,
and it's really sad because we're watching.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's like an epidemic with our kids, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We couple that with the fact that we put these
ridiculous demands on these kids, especially when they're younger, to
stay seated in a classroom for eight hours a day
and then take a bunch of tests and do homework
when they get home. I'm like, oh, my goodness, it's
awful what we're doing to our children.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It is. And COVID didn't help us either at all.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And so we've especially in the younger age brackets where
you know, they didn't have anything.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
What were they were?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They all eating McDonald's the entire time during COVID.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have no idea how any of it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Worked because I wasn't around my nieces and nephews during
that span of time. But it just it drives me
nuts that we tend to do the quick fix. Our
doctors Western medicine specifically, just like you've mentioned and I
have as well, is they're like, well, you have anxiety, well,
let's put you on an anti anxiety medication, let's do
this for depression, let's do this, and then they cause
all these other side effects and you're like, wait a second,
(22:57):
so now I have to take this for that side
of that because of this pill that gave me that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And that's why I started in the beginning talking about
how I have worked very very hard to not do
the big pharm a thing, especially with my pain, and
it took me almost like dying for me to change
my mind about Western medicine. I mean, they have it
has its place, obviously, right, but in our case, for
this type of conversation, I don't feel that it does
(23:24):
because a lot of doctors are now bogged down with
paperwork and they're not asking nutrition questions. They're not asking
about lifestyle. They don't have time to spend with us.
And that's what functional medicine they do. They legitimately spend
an hour and a half with you, like it's wonderful
for all of that testing. So it's clear that magnesium
changed your life. I mean that is a powerful message.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Absolutely, And and like I said earlier, you can't supplement
your way out of a bad diet. So always make
sure you're you're doing the right steps, you're taking, you know,
taking care of yourself, doing everything else because a lot
of people will say, well I tried magnesium and it
didn't and I'm like, okay, what did you eat, how
are you living? You know, what type did you take?
Don't give magnesium a bad name because you're taking it wrong,
you know, like yeah yeah yeah, so like you know,
(24:09):
so I always had these follow up questions, and when
it comes down to it, most of the time they're
taking the wrong type, or they're living just a fast
food fueled lifestyle, or they're they're you know, maybe not
taking a good quality brand. So there's always more to it.
When somebody says, oh, magnesium didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
After researching so much more about this. I fell in
love with this mineral. I'm because it seems too good
to be true. But how can you Well, you know,
there are some people that don't believe in science, so
you guys can just hang up. But when it comes
to science based, you know, information, I tend to follow it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And this is this is pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Absolutely, And I always tell people everything that I'm saying
you can find it on the National Institute of Health
is actually readily available for people to find. It's just
if you don't know what to search for. Just likewise,
if you don't know which questions ask your physician, it's
hard to know to know what you don't know. And
and that kind of leads me to another thing. A
lot of people will go get their magnesium checked. They'll
go and say, hey, doc, I heard some crazy lady
(25:06):
talking about magnesium. I need to get my magnesium levels sheds.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They'll go make that appointment with their physician. They get
a magnesium serum test and the magnesium comes back perfectly fine,
and then they reach out to me saying, well, my
magnesium's fine. Way, you know, does that mean they need
to supplement? Yes. One hundred thousand million percent. And the
reason why is because magnesium blood tests are not a
good indicator of overall magnesium deficiency. And that's because about
(25:30):
sixty percent of your body's magnesium is stored in your bones,
the other forty percent is in your muscles, tissues, and organs,
and less than one percent is actually stored in your blood.
So if your work looks fine, that doesn't mean that
you haven't been struggling with deficiency all throughout your body
for the last ten years, even though your blood works
perfectly fine. So and physicians, unfortunately, they don't often know that.
(25:51):
So it's really important to be informed and to make
sure you have these conversations with your doctors and ask
them the right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Questions and how do you get magnet zum tests then
that are accurate for with your bones and your muscles
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
So the National Institute of Help has said that there
is no accurate tests for magnesium deficiency that's available to
the public. You would have to do some of these
really wild, you know, bone tests, that is just not
something that we have access to. So what they say,
what they recommend is to go based off of your
symptomology so if you have all of those symptoms of
magnesium deficiency, try it, start supplementing with it, and if
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your symptoms go away, then you know it was just
magnesium deficiency. The beautiful thing is magnesium is safe, safe
to supplement with the only people who really should avoid
it are people who have very low blood pressure or
people who have kidney disease, as your kidney's process magnesium
and get rid of any excess, so if those aren't working,
then you could put yourself in danger. So those people
need to be cautious. But outside of that, it's relatively
(26:48):
safe to use.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Does that affect people with diabetes? Just out of curiosity
in terms of does magnesium affect people with diabetes, yeah, okay, yeah.
Magnesium actually helps regulate your instantly insulin levels, so people
who have diabetes tend to benefit from taking magnesium. The
other side of that is that sugar will deplete your
magnesium levels. So for every one molecule of sugar that
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you eat, it takes fifty four molecules and magnesium to
bounce that out. So the more wow, the more sugar
we eat, the more we torture magnesium. The lower magnesium is,
the less responsive we are to insulin, so we see
that there's this real vicious cycle when it comes to
blood sugar and magnesium deficiency.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I honestly cannot even believe this conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I needed you two and a half years ago when
I started this show. Actually, then I probably wouldn't even
have a show anymore because I'd be just fine.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, everybody knows I'm crazy. I'm never going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But when it comes to the magnesium supplementation, because I've
read so much about it, especially in the pain department,
So can you touch this real quick before we hit
the dusty trail here on how magnesium can help with pain.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Absolutely, So, magnesium is responsible for relaxing our muscles. So calcium,
on the other hand, is responsible for tightening our muscles.
So essentially, when our heart beats, since our heart is
a muscle, it's calcium and magnesium doing this beautiful dance
tightening and relaxing that muscle. The issue is is that
in our standard American diet, we get entirely too much calcium.
Like the other day at the grocery store, I saw
(28:19):
calcium and rich cereal, calcium and riched orange shoes, calcium
and rich bread, everything has calcium in it, and unfortunately
we're not getting enough magnesium. There isn't enough magnesium in
rich products out there to really balance that out, so
we wind up with all of this calcium, not enough magnesium,
and our muscles are constantly tight, tense, twitching, and causing
just pain throughout our body. The other side of that
(28:41):
is that magnesium is an incredibly powerful anti inflammatory. There
was a study done, I believe it was back in
twenty sixteen that tested people's CRP levels right, and they
found participants that all had dramatically high CRP levels, and
after supplementing, they found that those CRPLA levels went right
back to normal. So they are seeing a really interesting
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correlation between high CRP and low magnesium as well.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wow, I'm well, like I've said, I'm kind of mind blown,
especially because we've tried so many things and it sounds
so simple. But for something so simple that affects so
many processes within our bodies, I'm just like, I'm going
to shout you off the rooftops. If this stuff works
for me, I can't even begin to explain. I'm going
to make you a millionaire. Send me an affiliate marketing link.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm in.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Seriously because in all of these conversations that I speak
with doctors and practitioners and all of this about pain,
not one time has magnesium shown up in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It is absolutely wild. I feel like Oprah needs to
do a show about magnesium. Like, honestly, I feel like
everybody needs magnesium. It's funny because in our household, anybody
has anything wrong, I'm like, you should need a magnesium
just cream on everything.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do you have stocking suffer sizes?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know everybody's getting it this year?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh my gosh, Well, this is just unbelievable. What an
awesome conversation today. Before we head out of here, is
there anything that you'd like to leave our listeners with
just to.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Not accept anybody else's version of normal? You get to
decide what your normal is. No doctor, no physician, no
one else in your world is allowed to tell you
what you consider normal. So don't give up.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh I love that for sure, Yes, absolutely, Because our
body is our body, and we do not act the
same as the person next to us.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Our bodies are not the same. And I hate that
we're treated, especially women.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
We're treated like we're making it up, or we're dramatic,
or we're emotional.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We're all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We're emotional and we're dramatic because we feel like crap
all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
We have so many bands on us all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
All the time, for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So she's got we can find her online everywhere at
be rooted in dot com. She is on Insta and
Facebook and TikTok at be rooted. And thank you for
being consistent with your handles. By the way, it's so
much easier to find you. She's got that magnesium type
cheat sheet on her website as well. I'll put this
in show notes and in social as well. And thank
you so much for educating us on this incredible magnesium
(31:19):
riffic supplementation. Because the pill form I can't believe how
much of it I have in my house right now,
that's all getting dumped.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Thank you, Lindsay for doing what you're doing to really
spread awareness and just help people out all around the world.
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thanks. I'm doing the best I can, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like we said in the beginning, I had no idea
that I would ever be doing something like this, and
it is it is my joy in my world. It
is my soul food to do this show and to
meet people like yourself. So thanks so much for being here.
I really appreciate it. You are exclusively invited to share
this magnesium Riffic vip pain journey together. Let's get to
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the heart of how to heal with you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
By my side.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
There's absolutely got to be one of you out there
that needed to hear this conversation right or you know
somebody that needed to send them our way.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Both Natalie and I are here.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
We will one hundred percent answer questions that you might have.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You can reach out to me on.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Social media and I can connect you with her if
you have any additional questions about these products and about
magnesium as a whole. I would love to help all
of you guys feel better, including myself. That's what we
do here right give our pain some purpose. Please follow
the Pain Game Podcast wherever you digest your podcast content,
we will be there. Visit us at the paygamepodcast dot com,
(32:35):
and follow us on all the socials. Thanks for listening
to my little VIPs. Catch you on the other side.
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