May 19, 2025 • 46 mins
The 1908 Tunguska explosion is one of the strongest impact events in recorded history—likely caused by a meteor that never even touched the ground. In this episode, we explore what really happened in the skies over Siberia, how it compares to other major meteor strikes on Earth, and what these cosmic collisions can tell us about our planet’s past—and future.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Today we're going to talk about some really scary stuff
and it's not the spooky stuff. It's not the paranormal,
it's not even really the conspiratorial, it's just fucking nature. Man. Yeah,
So we're going to talk about the Tunguska event or
I think that's how you pronounced that. So once again, listeners,
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this is something that happened in Russia. So if you
listen to the Dautlav past, I'm gonna do my best
with with with some of these, a lot of these
multi you know, fourteen syllable words and backwards case. I
don't know how to be pronouncing some of these, you
know what I mean. But yeah, are you familiar with
the Tunguska event, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I've heard a little bit about it, but I'm
excited for today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. Well, and it's one of those things where I
think there was kind of a lot of mystique when
it happened, because we'll get into it, because there there
was nobody around that area, like we're talking like northern Russia,
you know, so it's a very sparsely located area. And
it also happened in the early nineteen hundred, so I mean,
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you know, you're not going to have you got sparsely
populated and especially in that area in that timeframe. It's
not gonna, you know, have a lot of documentation, especially
when it happened. So but for listeners that might not
be familiar, the Tunguska event was a large explosion between
three and fifty megatons. Now I'm not a whole lot
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into like the megatons and whatnot. I from what I've understood,
a lot of like nuclear tests have been anywhere from
like ten to fourteen, So we're talking in magnitudes of
possibly five times as large as a nuclear bomb. So
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that's the kind of devastation that possibly could have occurred.
But like I said, nobody was really around to kind
of see it. So this happened on the morning of
June thirtieth of nineteen oh eight. It was an explosion
over the sparsely populated East Siberian Lttega. I think that's
(03:35):
how you pronounce that. And from what they've reported, it
fell an estimated eighty million trees over an area of
one hundred and thirty eight square miles.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So it's yeah, we're talking massive devastation, Like I don't
that's like it's getting into areas like we can't even
like comprehend eighty million, Yeah, you know what I mean,
Like it's getting to that point where it's just like, yep,
that's a number, but that doesn't mean anything to me,
Like you you can't even like fathom what that would
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look like.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So did they use it for logging? Did they take
them away?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean, well, I think the thing is with like
like Russia's like the one of the biggest, or is
the biggest land mass as far as continents, I believe,
So I don't think, especially at that time, they might
not have been going up that far because, like I said,
it was sparsely populated. It's very rugged terrain up that way.
So yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So how did they find it that it happened?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So we'll get into it. There were actually some eyewitnesses supposedly,
now that being said, those eyewitnesses were quite far away
and still witness this thing. So with an explosion that big,
we're talking eighty million trees, we're talking one hundred or
eight hundred and thirty square miles. I mean you could
have been you know, a thousand miles away and probably
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still felt this fucking thing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Like that's that's crazy, But so it's not exactly sure
what it was. We have like a ninety nine point
nine percent idea of what it was for sure, But
there were a couple eyewitnesses and it suggested that maybe
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three people possibly died because it was sparsely populated, but
there were some people in that area. So what everybody,
like I said, we're like ninety nine percent sure this
is what it was. The explosion was attributed to a
meteor air burst, So the atmospheric explosion of a stony
asteroid probably about fifty to sixty meters for those in
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the United States, that'd be about one hundred and sixty
to two hundred feet wide, and it blew up in
the sky. So that's crazy. Yeah, Like when you talk
about out like that's how they like usually use thermonuclear weapons.
Like you don't want it to hit the ground. You
want it to explode in the sky for the maximum
amount of devastation, for that sort of like bubble that
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comes out from the explosion. You want it to have
the maximum effect. And with something like this being in
the sky, like we've seen this before in recent history
and like chel Youbink's Russia and that was a significantly
smaller asteroid that kind of came in and we're talking.
It blew out windows, it you know, ruptured people's ear drums,
(06:32):
It really fucked people up. And it was significantly smaller
than this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So yeah, why is it always happening over Russia?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well? I think it's probably because it happens, it happens
to be the largest land mass. I mean, it's a
probability thing at that point. You know, it's most likely
to happen over the ocean or a large land mass
like Russia, You know what I mean. But, like I said,
the asteroid approached from the southeast, probably relatively at a
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high speed of about get this mock eighty once again,
and even comprehend how fucking fast that is.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That means nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, that's a equivalent to like I had it pulled up.
Where's my math? I don't be mathing that well with
the mocks and whatnot. Okay, So a ninety eight thousand
and four kilometers per.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Hour, Yeah I don't And that doesn't make any I
don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That doesn't mean anything. It means it's fallen ass, hallowing
ass through the fucket atmosphere. So The incident is classified
as an impact event. The object was thought to have
exploded in an altitude of anywhere from three to six
miles above the earth. So once again, you know, rather
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than hitting the Earth's surface and leaving a crater, it
just decimated this area. And the thing is and this
is like when I look up stuff like this, and
I hear about stuff like this, and then you see
stuff in the news, like like I said, with like
the Cheliabanks asteroid and stuff like that, Like we are
literally just floating through a shooting gallery, you know, no
(08:16):
big deal. And this thing is just coming in the
atmosphere at mock fucking eighty and just slapping the atmosphere
and it's so fast that just the pressure of the
air in the friction causes this motherfucker to explode with
anywhere from five to ten times the power of a
nuclear fucking weapon. And that's just floating around out out
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in space, No big deal. Kind of cross our paths
every now and then.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is now. The Teguska event is the largest impact
event on Earth for recorded history, for as long as
humans have been doing it. Much larger impacts have occurred,
for instance, the asteroid that you know took out the dinosaurs,
and there's other yeah, evidence of massive asteroid impacts. So
(09:06):
this is kind of good where it happened because if
this would have hit over a metropolitan area, dude, you
to be talking like you might depending on the country
it hit, it could have destroyed the entire country.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, like it just yeah, just wipe it off the map.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know, it's it's wild, but kind of get
into a little bit of some descriptions and stuff like
that of you know, different kind of scientific stuff that
they've done their best to try to document this. But
like I said, this is nineteen oh eight, it's in Russia,
it's in Northern Russian Siberia. So I mean, you're you're
not You're you're getting a bunch of this like after
(09:48):
the fact, Like there were some supposed eyewitnesses, like I said,
but you're also like, hey, we heard some shit went down.
Let's go out and see this place. So yeah, this
also also happened, and this is one of the reasons
why there's not a lot of information on it. So
this happened on June thirtieth, Like I said, this happened
(10:09):
before the implementation of the Soviet calendar in nineteen eighteen,
So we're talking even like they didn't even record like
dates really at that point, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
there have been a few things where people try to
say it was this or that, or it was something
crazier than what it was. I don't really buy into that,
and I'm probably not going to talk a whole lot
(10:29):
about that. Most of the reasoning, I think is because
there wasn't a lot of like written accounts even for
what month it was, let alone an asteroid impact, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Right, Yeah, wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So, like I said, around about am local time, natives
and Russian settlers in the hills northwest of Lake Bacall
observed a bluish light nearly as bright as the sun,
moving across the sky and leaving a thin trail. Closer
to the horizon. There was a flash producing a billowing cloud,
followed by a pillar of fire that cast a red
(11:06):
light on the landscape. So you're like, like you're looking
at the world ending like yeah, we're stating seeing that,
You're like, holy shit, we're all dead.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, I got a pillar of like fire?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, so oh, my god, it's one of those things,
like I don't I think since we've never really experienced
it as the human race, like it'd be one of
those things once again that like we would literally think
the world is ending. If you were within that like
thousand mile radius of this thing, yeah, you'd be like, well,
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if you're religiously minded, well, God's coming down, or it's
in the world. It's the apocalypse. You know, it's it's over,
you know, right, So the spilt, the pillar split in
two and faded, turning black. Then about ten minutes later,
there was a sound similar to artillery fire. Now I
don't know where this eyewitness was. They had to obviously
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be really far off. Yeah, for you know, you're not
hearing any sound for about ten minutes, so he had
to have been or they had to have been really
really far off. But I Witnesses closer to the explosion
reported that the source of the sound moved from east
to north of them. The sound was accompanied by a
shockwave that knocked people off their feet and broke windows
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hundreds of kilometers away.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So, like I said, man, you're looking at a if
a explosion like that from however, one hundred how many
hundreds miles away, literally knocks you down.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Like that's yeah, that yeah, that makes me like scared
to think about. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So the explosion registered seismic sensations across your asia. The
airwaves from the blasts were detected in Germany really also
in Denmark, Croatia, and the United Kingdom. This thing was
fucking massive, also as far away as the Dutch East
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Indies and Washington fucking DC.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Did it tilt o the Earth a little on the axis?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I don't think it was probably big enough for that.
If I think it would have to be like much
more massive, because they've talked about, like I know which
planet is it, Uranus I believe is like completely tilted
and it had to have been like a smaller planet
almost size thing to knocket on its outf its axis
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like that. So I could be wrong on that. I'm
no astrophysicist or anything like that, but I think it
had to be a little bit bigger than that. But
it's estimated in some places that the resulting shockwave was
equivalent to an earthquake measuring zero point five on the
Richter scale, So you know, it didn't even hit the ground,
But you're looking at just the shock wave from the
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explosion causing the earth to shake like right wow. So
over the next few days, the night skies in Europe
and Asia were a glow. According to eyewitnesses. There are
reports of brightly lit photographs being successfully taken at midnight
without the aids of flashlights. I couldn't find any of
those though, or bombs or whatever. And that was in
(14:26):
Sweden and Scotland, so super far away. Now, once again,
that's just kind of hearsay. I tried to look for
some of this stuff. I mean, I found some that
could possibly be it, but I don't think it was anything,
you know what I mean, it's so hard to tell.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It's so long ago now.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's like that's the other thing too. It's like, you know,
if you're looking at a black and white photo from
nineteen oh eight and someone's like, oh, yep, this was
taken at night, it's like, okay, right, you know, Like
I don't know, but I mean, the fact that the
sky was still like glowing from this thing is pretty unbelievable.
(15:06):
It's been theorized that the sustained glowing effect was due
to the light passing through the high altitude ice particles
that had formed at extremely low temperatures as a result
of the explosion. So yeah, like I said, this thing
was pretty massive. Now I do have a recorded testimony
(15:30):
of an f or s I'm sorry, seeman Off, I
think is how you pronounce their name. I'm not really sure,
but he was a mineralologist, mineral ologist, and he was
on an expedition. So at breakfast time, I was sitting
by the house near a trading post, approximately sixty five
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kilometers or forty miles away from the explosion, facing north,
I suddenly saw directed to the north over on Cool
to Guska Road. I believe is how you pronounced that
first one? The sky split in two, and fire appeared
high and wide over the forest the sky. The split
in the sky grew larger, and the entire north side
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of the skyline was covered with fire. So as far
as you could see to the horizon was fucking on fire.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, just I mean it like suddenly.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, no big deal. But at that moment it became
so hot that I could barely bear it, and my
shirt became on fire. Really supposedly, Now, like I said,
this is just that, I went, I don't know if
this is true or not, but he was relatively close
to the the explosion, so I wanted to tear my
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shirt off and throw it down, but the sky shut
clothes in a strong thump sound, and then I was
thrown a few meters. Now, for listeners that might not
be familiar with the difference between meters, a meter is
roughly about three feet, so we're talking dude was thrown
fifteen feet maybe, yeah, just like it was nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know, while his shirt's on fire.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
While his shirt's on fire, while he's on fire, right yeah, yeah,
oh no, yeah, I lost my senses for a moment,
but then my wife ran out and led me to
the house. After such a noise came, as if a
rock were falling or cannons were firing. The earth shook,
and when I was on the ground, I pressed my
head down, fearing that rocks would be coming up and
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smashing me or something. That's what I think. This is
kind of like a loose translation. Probably like worried about
like the earthquake, is what I'm assuming he was referring to.
You know, when the sky opened up, a hot wind
raced between the houses, like it was from cannons, which
left traces on the ground like pathways, and it damaged
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some of my crops. Later we saw that many windows
were shattered in the barn. Part of the iron lock
had snapped. So I mean, and you are lucky to
be alive at that point. Yeah, fucking was on.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Fire, right, I'm crazy, like break a ripe or something.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, dude, and that's what I'm saying. These like pressure
waves and stuff are no joke. Like if it's breaking
iron locks and whatnot, the dude is extremely lucky that
he just like his insides didn't just turn to mush, right,
you know, Yeah, there's no way. So I have a
few other ones. This was recorded much later. So this
(18:31):
was recorded in nineteen twenty six by another witness. He
was on a hunt by a river with my brother.
We were sleeping and suddenly both woke up at the
same time, as if somebody had shoved us. We heard
whistling and felt a strong wind. My brother said, can
you hear all those birds flying overhead? But while we
were in the hut, we couldn't see what was going
(18:51):
on outside. Suddenly I got shoved again, this time so hard.
I fell into the fire that we had built. Yeah,
I got scared. So did my brother. We started crying
out for our father or mother and brother, but nobody answered.
There was a noise beyond the hut that we were in,
and we could hear trees falling down. You're talking. You
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can hear the fucking trees just falling all around you.
No big deal, like they wanted to run out, but
they said that thunder struck. And once again, I don't
think these people had a concept of what was happening,
like how yeah, well, so they're trying their best to
describe what happened. And obviously this is a translation from
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Russian to English, so it's kind of a little iffy
here and there, but same thing. The earth began to
move and rock, and the wind hit our hut and
knocked me over. My body was pushed down by all
the sticks in my head, but my head was in
the clear. Then I saw a wonder. Trees were falling,
branches were on fire. It became very bright, as if
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there were a second son. My eyes were hurting, even
though they were closed. It was like what all Russians
had called lightning. I don't know what that means, Like
I said, this is just the testimony. So this guy
once again super close.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, that sounds like right on there.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, But I mean even being like like close, I
think is a relative term because I mean he could
have been hundreds of miles away from where this happened,
because I just could not imagine what that would be. Like,
I honestly like, there's nothing you can do at that point.
(20:38):
It's literally like like if an earthquake happens, like you're
just gonna hang on hopefully your house doesn't fall apart.
But yeah, what are you supposed to do? You have
trees that are falling and bursting into flames and all
around you, Like, dude, you're not making it. That's like, yeah,
just lay down. I mean, just just wait for it's
wild man.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But I do have a couple of interesting little comparisons. Now,
obviously we don't know the exact size of the proposed meteor.
Here is something in relation to we have the Eiffel Tower,
we have the Empire State building. This one right here
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that's off to the Eiffel Tower is the Chelia Banks
media that exploded here in recent history. And the one
off to the far right is the Tanuguska media that
supposedly hit so in comparison to a fucking building. It's
a massive rock, yeah, like unbelievable, unbelievably massive. It's it
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still blows me away, and something like this. That that
that's a small one, like the ones that they're shocking like,
that's a small one. That's one that just slips through
the cracks that we probably wouldn't notice until it was
too fuck light.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, Yeah, isn't there a big one coming?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, we got a possibly something. Oh yeah, got a
wait to see if it goes through the little keyhole
or whatever they call it. But yeah, that one. I
don't think that one is like a civilization under by
any means, but it would definitely fuck some shit up.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So yeah, it's really lucky it was like in the
middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, and thankfully I think with the layout of our planet,
most of these things probably do happen over water, right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But that would cause a tsunami though.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I was about to say, you run into the
whole other slew of issues at that point, you know
what I mean? Right, So luckily, Like I'm thinking too,
like if this thing had gone a little bit further
and possibly hit like maybe closer to the North Pole
where the ice caps are at Like what would have
happened if it would have like completely melted the ice
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you know what I mean, And the next thing, you know,
you just have this massive flooding that's just all coming
down from the North Pole Like that would have been
insane too. Supposedly that's what they think happened. I know,
it's kind of a fringe theory, and I know there's
a little bit of what is it would be the
best way controversy around the Grand had Handcock guy, but
I mean he thinks that's definitely happened in the past,
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as we got hit with something massive and it melted
the North Pole and caused all this crazy flooding.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean I could see that that would be
world ending. Maybe that's the flood in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well that's what they think it is, and all honestly,
that's that's really what they think it is. And you know,
i'd like to I'd like to kind of cover probably
do something on Graham Hancock here in the future, because
he has a lot of really interesting theories. Some of
them are a little far fetched for me, but they're
they're pretty interesting. But any as far as like a
scientific investigation so obviously, like I said, these these reports
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are I'll hearsay they were recorded, you know, almost a
decade and a half after the event in most cases.
But an estimated one thousand scholarly papers, mostly in Russian
since it happened in Russia, have been published about the
Tugusko explosion. So it always talks about the site's remoteness,
the limited instrumentation available. Like the unfortunate reality is is
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we had the most massive meteor and written history hit
us and we were not prepared to really study it,
you know what I mean. So it it still blows
me away. But the estimates of energy that have ranged
like once again, man three to thirty megatons of TNT
like that. Obviously, they don't know for sure, and it's
(24:41):
not anything that I think we ever really will know,
but it's it's a pretty wild thing. Here we go,
This is another good comparison that I wanted to kind
of kind of show everybody. So let me share my
screen real quick. So here we go. We have a
bow and seven forty seven and we have the Teugusca
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meteor so wow, yeah it's a massive rock. So and
the Chili Banks meter that hit Russia when I can't
remember when that was is like I don't know eighth
of the size maybe you know.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So yeah, maybe less than that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, probably, I'm just kind of guesstimating here, but I
just cannot believe that that. I really wish it would
have had some I'm trying to find some like halfway
decent pictures because they do have some good pictures, but
once again, it's kind of one of those it wasn't
well documented. Yeah, here we go, I got I got
some halfway decent ones that we can we can take
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a look at. Let me see if I can find
when this was actually taken though. That's the thing, Like
I was trying to get some research and I was
trying to get an idea of like what happened, and
trying to get some good pictures, but it's so hard
to find anything that is actually kind of credible.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So I mean, did everything grow there or can you
kind of still see like the crater? You know you can?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think see. This is the thing too, like
I don't know if I can, I don't know if
this is accurate. So I'm going to share my screen.
This is supposedly part of.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Where hang on technical difficulty.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Technical difficulties, great podcasting here, folks. This is supposedly now
I don't think that's right though it doesn't look right. Yeah,
this is an actual picture that like the tree is
being flattened over. Wow, so you can see like it
literally just pushed everything. Supposedly, this is an artist interpretation
(26:51):
of rendition. Thank you. Words are hard of kind of
like what it would have looked like from a super
far out perspective. I'm I mean, this thing exploded, like
it's crazy. Yeah, it exploded, you know, five to ten
miles above you know the surface of the ground, and
it's just this massive, massive explosion, just flattening everything. Like
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can you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Imagine if you were like a plane in the air. No,
Like now we have so many planes everywhere, Like if
this happens.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Again, Nope, I don't want to imagine that. I don't
want to imagine that at all. So it's just one
of those things where I wish there was a little
bit more to it. The problem about it is, like
I said, there was no actual documentation. Really. One thing
that I did want to talk about, though, what's let's
(27:42):
go ahead and do a quick Google search of Near
Earth objects or asteroids. I guess let's let's get an
idea of kind of what we've got for the future,
for the future, what could possibly happen. Okay, So for
anybody that might not be familiar, A near Earth object
or ANEO is any small solar system body orbiting the
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Sun whose closest approach to the Sun is less than
one point three times the Earth's distance to the Sun.
It kind of passes in and we have these little,
you know, loops that happened where it could cross over
our orbit. Sarah, you want to know how many there are?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Let me guess, Let me guess, say, I gotcha. One thousand,
five hundred and twenty seven not even close eight million,
And that's too much.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, we went.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
D seven thousand.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's pretty close. That's not bad. Well, we went from
one extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So there are over thirty seven hundred or thirty seven
thousand known near Earth asteroids, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, and we could just not be seeing things too yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, and the other thing that I was going to
say is it depends on where it is coming from.
If it is if it is coming from if we
were looking at the Sun and coming that way, we
will not be able to see it because of the
quayre from the sun. Right, so there there are probably
that's probably like a very modest, you know, example of
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what we might have. But the thing is, man, these
are the ones that are large enough to be tracked.
The Zu Gusca one was probably not large enough to
be tracked until it was too late. Yeah, so you
know you're looking asteroids as far as like twenty meters.
You're not gonna be able to see those, but they
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could cause significant damage to you know, any local environments
or any like populated areas that we have. You know,
the thing is, man, you're not gonna know until it
actually happens. It's not gonna happen. You're not gonna be
able to do anything about it either. You know, it's
just going to be like, well, hope it doesn't hit
a lot of people because it's a hit you know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, yeah, it's one of those things I'd rather like
not know that it's coming because obviously we can't do
anything about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And well it's like it's like I don't look up
situation right where Yeah, you know, we're just gonna I
feel like that's probably what people would do if like
they knew, you know, I feel like it would just
be like, oh yeah, everything's hunky door, you don't worry
about nothing.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I guess depend on how soon, you know, you could
maybe evacuate if you knew the exact impact somehow.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, well you could leave. And the good thing is,
like with the bigger ones, you can track where they're
gonna be pretty far out, you know, and you can
even you know, have pretty good models of knowing like, okay, yeah,
this thing is gonna pass through, Like it's like with
that Apotheus thing, like it's going to pass through this keyhole.
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And if it passes through this keyhole between the Earth
and the Moon, then the next time in orbits it's
gonna hit us. Like they they can kind of gather that.
The good thing with that is, though we do have
technology where because really, if we catch it soon enough,
we just have to try to bump it, you know,
just just a little off its course, because you know,
(31:13):
a single degree of a bump over a huge distance,
you're gonna be fine. We're not gonna like Bruce willis
this in a pocket or whatever they did and try
to fucking nuke it or whatever. The hell they tried
to do in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That right, just make smaller shrapnel pieces.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, because what is that movie? They were like, oh, yeah,
we're gonna split it and it's gonna split right around
the Earth like exactly, how like right, shut the fuck.
It's so dumb. But with these thirty seven thousand known,
there are also one hundred and twenty known short period
(31:51):
near Earth comets. Now, I think the comets are a
little easier to track because as they get close to
the Sun, you know, they leave that tail with since
they're more of like an icy body. The problem is
is the same stuff that is made here on Earth
is the same stuff floating out there, and not all
of it is icy. Some of it's just straight up
(32:14):
iron and you're not going to be able to see it.
You know, it's not very reflect well it's not, you know,
so it's I don't know, man, this is one of
those things where we have definitely been hit by asteroids
in the past and it caused mass extinctions. And I
don't think that's anything anybody wants to, you know, have
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to live through. I think i'd want it to take
me out.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah right, I don't want to live the post apocalyptic
earth lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, but speaking of Apothus, everybody we get something to
look forward to, so everybody freak out. So Apothus is
one of those near Earth asteroids that will safely pass
close to Earth on April thirteenth, twenty twenty nine, only
a few years away.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Nine. Yeah, I thought there was one in twenty thirty
two that they were saying could hit us.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I think this is the same one. I'm trying
to trying to figure it out right now, real time
research people, this is this is how much so much
prep I do. Sarah is the professional one. I'm just
the wing up person. Here we go. Okay, yeah, I
got you. So it is supposed to say pass safely
(33:31):
on April thirteen, twenty twenty nine. It is a potentially
hazardous asteroid, though, meaning it is large enough to cause
significant damage if it were to impact Earth. It was
once proposed that potential threat of impact in twenty twenty nine,
twenty thirty six, and twenty sixty eight. Astronomers have not
(33:51):
determined that there's no risk of Apothes hitting Earth for
at least the next one hundred years. But I feel
like this is a don't look up situation, Sarah, Yeah,
probably just saying that. They're probably just saying that so
nobody freaks out.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Maybe there's this one I found, asteroid twenty twenty four.
Y are four?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Hey man, See I love astrophysicists and their names for stuff. Man,
it's just right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It says the it no longer poses a significant threat,
but it might impact the moon in twenty thirty two.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Fuck that. Yeah, the Moon's kind of important to us,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Right, Well, maybe we'll get two moons out of it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't know if I want two moons, because then
it's gonna mess with the tides. It's gonna mess with
you know, yeah, rotation the earth, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Everyone's gonna go crazy. You think one full moonspan, we
till you.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Have two double were wolves? Yeah, all those, all those
what's what's the word astrology? People? Man, they'll just have
a new thing for everything, you know. Yeah, we'll have
a new reason why you said people are going batshit crazy.
(35:07):
So well, let's take a look at I want to
see this now since we're just doing real time research listeners,
this is great, I know for you guys. I want
to see what the actual size of the asteroid that
destroyed the dinosaurs and kind of give it some comparison
to what we had. So we know that the one
overton Gusco was about what sixty five I believe is
(35:30):
what it was. Sixty five meters. Yeah, this one was
six miles in diameter. Yeah, okay, so significantly bigger though, right.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, because it created what the Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Or Yeah, they're pretty sure that's where it hit in
the area. Now obviously plate tectonics and whatnot. Like, here
we go, I got a I got one for you
that I can. So this is supposedly, which I think
they have good evidence for, this is where it did hit.
But yeah, you can kind to see it from right here.
Supposedly hit in that area, and I think it kind
(36:07):
of like came up from South America and probably impacted
So that's probably why you have that massive Yeah, like yeah,
right now, I don't know though if this was I
don't think they know either. I could be wrong. I
think this one actually impacted the Earth. I don't think
it was one of those air.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Bursts, right, No, I think it did impact the earth.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, here we go. So the crater was estimated to
be one hundred and twenty miles in diameter and about
a depth of zero point sixty two miles, so it
went more than half a mile into the earth and
had a crater that was this, you know, size of
some states.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So oh my god, I would not want to see
that coming.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well that's the bad thing. Like I think you probably
would be able to see that coming. Like right, ah,
here we go. Let's look at some some artists hardest
renditions of the ship just hanging out, you know, flying
on your plane, Sarah, here you go. This is what
you fucking see. Just a mess.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, that would be wild. I mean, yeah, you're just
chomping on some leaves as a.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Dinosaur it out, man, just trying to you know, just
trying to eat, trying to sleep and trying to make
more dinosaurs. The next thing, you know, this big motherfucker
just comes into ruins the day. I don't know, man,
the whole thing with like space is scary as fuck,
and I.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Don't really small.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, I don't think people understand. Like I have had
those moments, you know, where I'm outside and I'm staring
up at the sky and I'm like, man, I just
like all this stuff out here. I feel so utterly insignificant,
and we just live in such like the perfect spot
for this particular type of life to happen. But all
it takes is one little thing, a fucking solar flare,
(37:57):
an asteroid something hitting the Moon and knocking it off
its orbit, you know what I mean, like, and then
we're done, over right, No big deal, Thanks for thanks
for all you did for the however long the human
race has been alive, but no more, you guys, Yeah,
all right, we'll end well. But that's the thing. I
(38:21):
don't think it will, because with what we have as
far as technology goes, and we've seen such an exponential
growth in the past three decades, you know what I mean.
And I don't think that's something that ever stops. I
think people are always innovating, whether it's good or bad.
I mean, I guess that's kind of irrelevant. But stuff
(38:43):
like this we're going to. I mean, we're already starting
to get to that point where space travel is becoming
more efficient, and the second it becomes more efficient and
corporations can actually make money off of it, will be
up there all the time. You know that, no question
asked or or have another opposing country to what China say, Hey,
(39:04):
we're building a base on Mars. Dude, we will be
on fucking Mars tomorrow. Be like, no, you're not right.
This is our ours. We planted a flag, it means
it's ours now, you know, right, Yeah, no, I mean
I don't know. There was an interesting little documentary I
was watching last night, kind of doing scrolling on YouTube
(39:25):
and talking about having like telescopes on the Moon on
the far side, you know, having us being able to
help track some of these things. Being in the shadow
of the moon might help, you know, give us more
understanding not only of like what's out there, but how
we can track it a little easier and stuff like that.
So it's pretty interesting. I think that's probably the way
(39:46):
it's gonna go because we, like I said earlier, we
have the technology to like prevent it from happening. Now
we just need to know like ahead of.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Time, right, Yeah, we need enough time to implement it.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah. And I think a lot of people like there's
always this weird like kind of cultural mindset, and I'm
pretty sure it's gone back as far as human beings
have ever existed. It's like, well, we don't need to
worry about this. We got problems here. We need to
worry about this, you know, like we got like you
could see cavemen back in the day, Like, no, we're
not going to go over there and forge for food.
(40:20):
We got cave problems, you know what. I like. It's
one of those things where if we're not forward thinking
with this sort of stuff, I feel like it could
be absolutely devastating, you know, if we have the means
to do it. And I'm not saying we got to
drop everything we're doing as a society as human beings
and only develop it for space, but I mean as
a as the type of creatures we are. I mean,
(40:42):
that's inevitably where we're going. You know, we're not going
to just hang out on this planet, you know what
I mean, We're gonna well yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, we're already exploring out there.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So yeah, so yeah, it's kind of exciting, Sarah. I think, uh,
I think in our lifetime we're gonna we're gonna see
some really awesome stuff. This is going to hit us
in twenty twenty nine, fucking die.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah. I mean too, they're equally likely we've already seen
some really cool stuff. Yeah, No, I've seen the rise
of technology and the Internet.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, so that's what I was thinking. I remember, you know,
growing up in the nineties. I it was funny you
saw these like space movies back in the day where
you know, you made a call and you saw their
face and you're like, wow, that's amazing man, you know,
And now here it is I just meet listener Sarah
and I are seeing face to face right now.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
So it's crazy, right, Yeah, yeah, that would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I no, I mean, that's uh, that's really what I
got for Tan Guska. I mean it there was a
few things, like I said, some hoky theories about some
weird shit, but I don't think that's what it was.
I I honestly it was an air burst asteroid that
that hit some of those fucking experiences, whether they're credible
(41:56):
or not. That was fucking insane hearing those yeah and
girls like yeah, my shirt was on fire and then
I got blown thirty feet back. It's like, holy shit, man,
how are you alive?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Right? Maybe being blown back like blew out the fire. Yeah,
so that's how they survived. Wasn't it just hot air though?
Like just a wall of flames.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
But that's the thing, man, I feel like, I really
feel like the air would be on fire right points
of that. It would be such a high pressure, high
explosion that it would literally ignite the oxygen in the air. Yeah,
like if you're that far away and your fucking shirt
(42:42):
catches on fire, like yeah, yeah, I don't know, man.
You know, I've seen those simulator simulations of stuff of
like asteroid impacts and whatnot where they hit the Earth
and you just see like the the wall of fire
just in the whole fucking planet, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's just one of those where, well they'll probably have
a live stream of it if it happens, you know,
(43:03):
like whoever's in the iss is just gonna be like oh.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah right, oh my god. Then they'd be stuck up there.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Dude, the worst loneliest place you could be, you know,
right the the the way you're gonna die is you know,
you're gonna starve, You're gonna dive dehydration, or if you
have enough food and supplies, you're literally just gonna stay
up there until you suffocate.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like yeah, unless you walk out.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I guess I don't know if that's a I don't
know if that's the way i'd want to go. That decompression,
I feel like would really suck.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I'm right, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, that's that's about really all I got for for
the Tim Gusco event. So nice, it's it's a it
was a wild thing, and hopefully we don't see anything
like that happened in the in the near future, or
at least we do it. You know, we'll catch it
in time, but who knows. It's just one of those things.
So but like I said, that's probably gonna wrap it up.
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So listeners, tell us what you think about Tim Guessca,
tell us what you think about asteroids? Is that really
what the teen Gusco event was? If you would like
to give me the craziest theories that you can possibly
come up with, I'm not going to entertain them, but
I would love to hear them. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, well,
so Sarah, we're both here for the wild conspiracies. We're
(44:20):
both here a crazy shit. I'm not entered. Yes, I'm
not saying I don't want to hear it. I'm just
saying I'm not going to believe it. That's the day.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, get your creative writing
going and yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, let's see there we go. We should have a
little contest the most creative idea of what the Teenusco
event actually was. We'll read it on the on an
episode or something like that, and maybe, who knows, maybe
that'll be like the thing that cracks it and we'll
actually know what instead of ninety nine point nine percent certainty,
we'll know with one hundred percent certainty what it was.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Today we're going to talk about some really scary stuff
and it's not the spooky stuff. It's not the paranormal,
it's not even really the conspiratorial, it's just fucking nature. Man. Yeah,
So we're going to talk about the Tunguska event or
I think that's how you pronounced that. So once again, listeners,
(01:43):
this is something that happened in Russia. So if you
listen to the Dautlav past, I'm gonna do my best
with with with some of these, a lot of these
multi you know, fourteen syllable words and backwards case. I
don't know how to be pronouncing some of these, you
know what I mean. But yeah, are you familiar with
the Tunguska event, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I've heard a little bit about it, but I'm
excited for today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. Well, and it's one of those things where I
think there was kind of a lot of mystique when
it happened, because we'll get into it, because there there
was nobody around that area, like we're talking like northern Russia,
you know, so it's a very sparsely located area. And
it also happened in the early nineteen hundred, so I mean,
(02:29):
you know, you're not going to have you got sparsely
populated and especially in that area in that timeframe. It's
not gonna, you know, have a lot of documentation, especially
when it happened. So but for listeners that might not
be familiar, the Tunguska event was a large explosion between
three and fifty megatons. Now I'm not a whole lot
(02:52):
into like the megatons and whatnot. I from what I've understood,
a lot of like nuclear tests have been anywhere from
like ten to fourteen, So we're talking in magnitudes of
possibly five times as large as a nuclear bomb. So
(03:13):
that's the kind of devastation that possibly could have occurred.
But like I said, nobody was really around to kind
of see it. So this happened on the morning of
June thirtieth of nineteen oh eight. It was an explosion
over the sparsely populated East Siberian Lttega. I think that's
(03:35):
how you pronounce that. And from what they've reported, it
fell an estimated eighty million trees over an area of
one hundred and thirty eight square miles.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So it's yeah, we're talking massive devastation, Like I don't
that's like it's getting into areas like we can't even
like comprehend eighty million, Yeah, you know what I mean,
Like it's getting to that point where it's just like, yep,
that's a number, but that doesn't mean anything to me,
Like you you can't even like fathom what that would
(04:10):
look like.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So did they use it for logging? Did they take
them away?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean, well, I think the thing is with like
like Russia's like the one of the biggest, or is
the biggest land mass as far as continents, I believe,
So I don't think, especially at that time, they might
not have been going up that far because, like I said,
it was sparsely populated. It's very rugged terrain up that way.
So yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So how did they find it that it happened?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So we'll get into it. There were actually some eyewitnesses supposedly,
now that being said, those eyewitnesses were quite far away
and still witness this thing. So with an explosion that big,
we're talking eighty million trees, we're talking one hundred or
eight hundred and thirty square miles. I mean you could
have been you know, a thousand miles away and probably
(05:02):
still felt this fucking thing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Like that's that's crazy, But so it's not exactly sure
what it was. We have like a ninety nine point
nine percent idea of what it was for sure, But
there were a couple eyewitnesses and it suggested that maybe
(05:25):
three people possibly died because it was sparsely populated, but
there were some people in that area. So what everybody,
like I said, we're like ninety nine percent sure this
is what it was. The explosion was attributed to a
meteor air burst, So the atmospheric explosion of a stony
asteroid probably about fifty to sixty meters for those in
(05:50):
the United States, that'd be about one hundred and sixty
to two hundred feet wide, and it blew up in
the sky. So that's crazy. Yeah, Like when you talk
about out like that's how they like usually use thermonuclear weapons.
Like you don't want it to hit the ground. You
want it to explode in the sky for the maximum
amount of devastation, for that sort of like bubble that
(06:12):
comes out from the explosion. You want it to have
the maximum effect. And with something like this being in
the sky, like we've seen this before in recent history
and like chel Youbink's Russia and that was a significantly
smaller asteroid that kind of came in and we're talking.
It blew out windows, it you know, ruptured people's ear drums,
(06:32):
It really fucked people up. And it was significantly smaller
than this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So yeah, why is it always happening over Russia?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well? I think it's probably because it happens, it happens
to be the largest land mass. I mean, it's a
probability thing at that point. You know, it's most likely
to happen over the ocean or a large land mass
like Russia, You know what I mean. But, like I said,
the asteroid approached from the southeast, probably relatively at a
(07:01):
high speed of about get this mock eighty once again,
and even comprehend how fucking fast that is.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That means nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, that's a equivalent to like I had it pulled up.
Where's my math? I don't be mathing that well with
the mocks and whatnot. Okay, So a ninety eight thousand
and four kilometers per.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Hour, Yeah I don't And that doesn't make any I
don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That doesn't mean anything. It means it's fallen ass, hallowing
ass through the fucket atmosphere. So The incident is classified
as an impact event. The object was thought to have
exploded in an altitude of anywhere from three to six
miles above the earth. So once again, you know, rather
(07:53):
than hitting the Earth's surface and leaving a crater, it
just decimated this area. And the thing is and this
is like when I look up stuff like this, and
I hear about stuff like this, and then you see
stuff in the news, like like I said, with like
the Cheliabanks asteroid and stuff like that, Like we are
literally just floating through a shooting gallery, you know, no
(08:16):
big deal. And this thing is just coming in the
atmosphere at mock fucking eighty and just slapping the atmosphere
and it's so fast that just the pressure of the
air in the friction causes this motherfucker to explode with
anywhere from five to ten times the power of a
nuclear fucking weapon. And that's just floating around out out
(08:37):
in space, No big deal. Kind of cross our paths
every now and then.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is now. The Teguska event is the largest impact
event on Earth for recorded history, for as long as
humans have been doing it. Much larger impacts have occurred,
for instance, the asteroid that you know took out the dinosaurs,
and there's other yeah, evidence of massive asteroid impacts. So
(09:06):
this is kind of good where it happened because if
this would have hit over a metropolitan area, dude, you
to be talking like you might depending on the country
it hit, it could have destroyed the entire country.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, like it just yeah, just wipe it off the map.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know, it's it's wild, but kind of get
into a little bit of some descriptions and stuff like
that of you know, different kind of scientific stuff that
they've done their best to try to document this. But
like I said, this is nineteen oh eight, it's in Russia,
it's in Northern Russian Siberia. So I mean, you're you're
not You're you're getting a bunch of this like after
(09:48):
the fact, Like there were some supposed eyewitnesses, like I said,
but you're also like, hey, we heard some shit went down.
Let's go out and see this place. So yeah, this
also also happened, and this is one of the reasons
why there's not a lot of information on it. So
this happened on June thirtieth, Like I said, this happened
(10:09):
before the implementation of the Soviet calendar in nineteen eighteen,
So we're talking even like they didn't even record like
dates really at that point, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
there have been a few things where people try to
say it was this or that, or it was something
crazier than what it was. I don't really buy into that,
and I'm probably not going to talk a whole lot
(10:29):
about that. Most of the reasoning, I think is because
there wasn't a lot of like written accounts even for
what month it was, let alone an asteroid impact, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Right, Yeah, wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So, like I said, around about am local time, natives
and Russian settlers in the hills northwest of Lake Bacall
observed a bluish light nearly as bright as the sun,
moving across the sky and leaving a thin trail. Closer
to the horizon. There was a flash producing a billowing cloud,
followed by a pillar of fire that cast a red
(11:06):
light on the landscape. So you're like, like you're looking
at the world ending like yeah, we're stating seeing that,
You're like, holy shit, we're all dead.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, I got a pillar of like fire?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, so oh, my god, it's one of those things,
like I don't I think since we've never really experienced
it as the human race, like it'd be one of
those things once again that like we would literally think
the world is ending. If you were within that like
thousand mile radius of this thing, yeah, you'd be like, well,
(11:42):
if you're religiously minded, well, God's coming down, or it's
in the world. It's the apocalypse. You know, it's it's over,
you know, right, So the spilt, the pillar split in
two and faded, turning black. Then about ten minutes later,
there was a sound similar to artillery fire. Now I
don't know where this eyewitness was. They had to obviously
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be really far off. Yeah, for you know, you're not
hearing any sound for about ten minutes, so he had
to have been or they had to have been really
really far off. But I Witnesses closer to the explosion
reported that the source of the sound moved from east
to north of them. The sound was accompanied by a
shockwave that knocked people off their feet and broke windows
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hundreds of kilometers away.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So, like I said, man, you're looking at a if
a explosion like that from however, one hundred how many
hundreds miles away, literally knocks you down.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Like that's yeah, that yeah, that makes me like scared
to think about. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So the explosion registered seismic sensations across your asia. The
airwaves from the blasts were detected in Germany really also
in Denmark, Croatia, and the United Kingdom. This thing was
fucking massive, also as far away as the Dutch East
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Indies and Washington fucking DC.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Did it tilt o the Earth a little on the axis?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I don't think it was probably big enough for that.
If I think it would have to be like much
more massive, because they've talked about, like I know which
planet is it, Uranus I believe is like completely tilted
and it had to have been like a smaller planet
almost size thing to knocket on its outf its axis
(13:43):
like that. So I could be wrong on that. I'm
no astrophysicist or anything like that, but I think it
had to be a little bit bigger than that. But
it's estimated in some places that the resulting shockwave was
equivalent to an earthquake measuring zero point five on the
Richter scale, So you know, it didn't even hit the ground,
But you're looking at just the shock wave from the
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explosion causing the earth to shake like right wow. So
over the next few days, the night skies in Europe
and Asia were a glow. According to eyewitnesses. There are
reports of brightly lit photographs being successfully taken at midnight
without the aids of flashlights. I couldn't find any of
those though, or bombs or whatever. And that was in
(14:26):
Sweden and Scotland, so super far away. Now, once again,
that's just kind of hearsay. I tried to look for
some of this stuff. I mean, I found some that
could possibly be it, but I don't think it was anything,
you know what I mean, it's so hard to tell.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It's so long ago now.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's like that's the other thing too. It's like, you know,
if you're looking at a black and white photo from
nineteen oh eight and someone's like, oh, yep, this was
taken at night, it's like, okay, right, you know, Like
I don't know, but I mean, the fact that the
sky was still like glowing from this thing is pretty unbelievable.
(15:06):
It's been theorized that the sustained glowing effect was due
to the light passing through the high altitude ice particles
that had formed at extremely low temperatures as a result
of the explosion. So yeah, like I said, this thing
was pretty massive. Now I do have a recorded testimony
(15:30):
of an f or s I'm sorry, seeman Off, I
think is how you pronounce their name. I'm not really sure,
but he was a mineralologist, mineral ologist, and he was
on an expedition. So at breakfast time, I was sitting
by the house near a trading post, approximately sixty five
(15:52):
kilometers or forty miles away from the explosion, facing north,
I suddenly saw directed to the north over on Cool
to Guska Road. I believe is how you pronounced that
first one? The sky split in two, and fire appeared
high and wide over the forest the sky. The split
in the sky grew larger, and the entire north side
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of the skyline was covered with fire. So as far
as you could see to the horizon was fucking on fire.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, just I mean it like suddenly.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, no big deal. But at that moment it became
so hot that I could barely bear it, and my
shirt became on fire. Really supposedly, Now, like I said,
this is just that, I went, I don't know if
this is true or not, but he was relatively close
to the the explosion, so I wanted to tear my
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shirt off and throw it down, but the sky shut
clothes in a strong thump sound, and then I was
thrown a few meters. Now, for listeners that might not
be familiar with the difference between meters, a meter is
roughly about three feet, so we're talking dude was thrown
fifteen feet maybe, yeah, just like it was nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know, while his shirt's on fire.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
While his shirt's on fire, while he's on fire, right yeah, yeah,
oh no, yeah, I lost my senses for a moment,
but then my wife ran out and led me to
the house. After such a noise came, as if a
rock were falling or cannons were firing. The earth shook,
and when I was on the ground, I pressed my
head down, fearing that rocks would be coming up and
(17:30):
smashing me or something. That's what I think. This is
kind of like a loose translation. Probably like worried about
like the earthquake, is what I'm assuming he was referring to.
You know, when the sky opened up, a hot wind
raced between the houses, like it was from cannons, which
left traces on the ground like pathways, and it damaged
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some of my crops. Later we saw that many windows
were shattered in the barn. Part of the iron lock
had snapped. So I mean, and you are lucky to
be alive at that point. Yeah, fucking was on.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Fire, right, I'm crazy, like break a ripe or something.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, dude, and that's what I'm saying. These like pressure
waves and stuff are no joke. Like if it's breaking
iron locks and whatnot, the dude is extremely lucky that
he just like his insides didn't just turn to mush, right,
you know, Yeah, there's no way. So I have a
few other ones. This was recorded much later. So this
(18:31):
was recorded in nineteen twenty six by another witness. He
was on a hunt by a river with my brother.
We were sleeping and suddenly both woke up at the
same time, as if somebody had shoved us. We heard
whistling and felt a strong wind. My brother said, can
you hear all those birds flying overhead? But while we
were in the hut, we couldn't see what was going
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on outside. Suddenly I got shoved again, this time so hard.
I fell into the fire that we had built. Yeah,
I got scared. So did my brother. We started crying
out for our father or mother and brother, but nobody answered.
There was a noise beyond the hut that we were in,
and we could hear trees falling down. You're talking. You
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can hear the fucking trees just falling all around you.
No big deal, like they wanted to run out, but
they said that thunder struck. And once again, I don't
think these people had a concept of what was happening,
like how yeah, well, so they're trying their best to
describe what happened. And obviously this is a translation from
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Russian to English, so it's kind of a little iffy
here and there, but same thing. The earth began to
move and rock, and the wind hit our hut and
knocked me over. My body was pushed down by all
the sticks in my head, but my head was in
the clear. Then I saw a wonder. Trees were falling,
branches were on fire. It became very bright, as if
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there were a second son. My eyes were hurting, even
though they were closed. It was like what all Russians
had called lightning. I don't know what that means, Like
I said, this is just the testimony. So this guy
once again super close.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, that sounds like right on there.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, But I mean even being like like close, I
think is a relative term because I mean he could
have been hundreds of miles away from where this happened,
because I just could not imagine what that would be. Like,
I honestly like, there's nothing you can do at that point.
(20:38):
It's literally like like if an earthquake happens, like you're
just gonna hang on hopefully your house doesn't fall apart.
But yeah, what are you supposed to do? You have
trees that are falling and bursting into flames and all
around you, Like, dude, you're not making it. That's like, yeah,
just lay down. I mean, just just wait for it's
wild man.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But I do have a couple of interesting little comparisons. Now,
obviously we don't know the exact size of the proposed meteor.
Here is something in relation to we have the Eiffel Tower,
we have the Empire State building. This one right here
(21:19):
that's off to the Eiffel Tower is the Chelia Banks
media that exploded here in recent history. And the one
off to the far right is the Tanuguska media that
supposedly hit so in comparison to a fucking building. It's
a massive rock, yeah, like unbelievable, unbelievably massive. It's it
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still blows me away, and something like this. That that
that's a small one, like the ones that they're shocking like,
that's a small one. That's one that just slips through
the cracks that we probably wouldn't notice until it was
too fuck light.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, Yeah, isn't there a big one coming?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, we got a possibly something. Oh yeah, got a
wait to see if it goes through the little keyhole
or whatever they call it. But yeah, that one. I
don't think that one is like a civilization under by
any means, but it would definitely fuck some shit up.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So yeah, it's really lucky it was like in the
middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, and thankfully I think with the layout of our planet,
most of these things probably do happen over water, right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But that would cause a tsunami though.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I was about to say, you run into the
whole other slew of issues at that point, you know
what I mean? Right, So luckily, Like I'm thinking too,
like if this thing had gone a little bit further
and possibly hit like maybe closer to the North Pole
where the ice caps are at Like what would have
happened if it would have like completely melted the ice
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you know what I mean, And the next thing, you know,
you just have this massive flooding that's just all coming
down from the North Pole Like that would have been
insane too. Supposedly that's what they think happened. I know,
it's kind of a fringe theory, and I know there's
a little bit of what is it would be the
best way controversy around the Grand had Handcock guy, but
I mean he thinks that's definitely happened in the past,
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as we got hit with something massive and it melted
the North Pole and caused all this crazy flooding.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean I could see that that would be
world ending. Maybe that's the flood in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well that's what they think it is, and all honestly,
that's that's really what they think it is. And you know,
i'd like to I'd like to kind of cover probably
do something on Graham Hancock here in the future, because
he has a lot of really interesting theories. Some of
them are a little far fetched for me, but they're
they're pretty interesting. But any as far as like a
scientific investigation so obviously, like I said, these these reports
(23:56):
are I'll hearsay they were recorded, you know, almost a
decade and a half after the event in most cases.
But an estimated one thousand scholarly papers, mostly in Russian
since it happened in Russia, have been published about the
Tugusko explosion. So it always talks about the site's remoteness,
the limited instrumentation available. Like the unfortunate reality is is
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we had the most massive meteor and written history hit
us and we were not prepared to really study it,
you know what I mean. So it it still blows
me away. But the estimates of energy that have ranged
like once again, man three to thirty megatons of TNT
like that. Obviously, they don't know for sure, and it's
(24:41):
not anything that I think we ever really will know,
but it's it's a pretty wild thing. Here we go,
This is another good comparison that I wanted to kind
of kind of show everybody. So let me share my
screen real quick. So here we go. We have a
bow and seven forty seven and we have the Teugusca
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meteor so wow, yeah it's a massive rock. So and
the Chili Banks meter that hit Russia when I can't
remember when that was is like I don't know eighth
of the size maybe you know.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So yeah, maybe less than that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, probably, I'm just kind of guesstimating here, but I
just cannot believe that that. I really wish it would
have had some I'm trying to find some like halfway
decent pictures because they do have some good pictures, but
once again, it's kind of one of those it wasn't
well documented. Yeah, here we go, I got I got
some halfway decent ones that we can we can take
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a look at. Let me see if I can find
when this was actually taken though. That's the thing, Like
I was trying to get some research and I was
trying to get an idea of like what happened, and
trying to get some good pictures, but it's so hard
to find anything that is actually kind of credible.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So I mean, did everything grow there or can you
kind of still see like the crater? You know you can?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think see. This is the thing too, like
I don't know if I can, I don't know if
this is accurate. So I'm going to share my screen.
This is supposedly part of.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Where hang on technical difficulty.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Technical difficulties, great podcasting here, folks. This is supposedly now
I don't think that's right though it doesn't look right. Yeah,
this is an actual picture that like the tree is
being flattened over. Wow, so you can see like it
literally just pushed everything. Supposedly, this is an artist interpretation
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of rendition. Thank you. Words are hard of kind of
like what it would have looked like from a super
far out perspective. I'm I mean, this thing exploded, like
it's crazy. Yeah, it exploded, you know, five to ten
miles above you know the surface of the ground, and
it's just this massive, massive explosion, just flattening everything. Like
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can you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Imagine if you were like a plane in the air. No,
Like now we have so many planes everywhere, Like if
this happens.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Again, Nope, I don't want to imagine that. I don't
want to imagine that at all. So it's just one
of those things where I wish there was a little
bit more to it. The problem about it is, like
I said, there was no actual documentation. Really. One thing
that I did want to talk about, though, what's let's
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go ahead and do a quick Google search of Near
Earth objects or asteroids. I guess let's let's get an
idea of kind of what we've got for the future,
for the future, what could possibly happen. Okay, So for
anybody that might not be familiar, A near Earth object
or ANEO is any small solar system body orbiting the
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Sun whose closest approach to the Sun is less than
one point three times the Earth's distance to the Sun.
It kind of passes in and we have these little,
you know, loops that happened where it could cross over
our orbit. Sarah, you want to know how many there are?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Let me guess, Let me guess, say, I gotcha. One thousand,
five hundred and twenty seven not even close eight million,
And that's too much.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay, we went.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
D seven thousand.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's pretty close. That's not bad. Well, we went from
one extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So there are over thirty seven hundred or thirty seven
thousand known near Earth asteroids, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, and we could just not be seeing things too yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, and the other thing that I was going to
say is it depends on where it is coming from.
If it is if it is coming from if we
were looking at the Sun and coming that way, we
will not be able to see it because of the
quayre from the sun. Right, so there there are probably
that's probably like a very modest, you know, example of
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what we might have. But the thing is, man, these
are the ones that are large enough to be tracked.
The Zu Gusca one was probably not large enough to
be tracked until it was too late. Yeah, so you
know you're looking asteroids as far as like twenty meters.
You're not gonna be able to see those, but they
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could cause significant damage to you know, any local environments
or any like populated areas that we have. You know,
the thing is, man, you're not gonna know until it
actually happens. It's not gonna happen. You're not gonna be
able to do anything about it either. You know, it's
just going to be like, well, hope it doesn't hit
a lot of people because it's a hit you know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, yeah, it's one of those things I'd rather like
not know that it's coming because obviously we can't do
anything about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And well it's like it's like I don't look up
situation right where Yeah, you know, we're just gonna I
feel like that's probably what people would do if like
they knew, you know, I feel like it would just
be like, oh yeah, everything's hunky door, you don't worry
about nothing.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I guess depend on how soon, you know, you could
maybe evacuate if you knew the exact impact somehow.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, well you could leave. And the good thing is,
like with the bigger ones, you can track where they're
gonna be pretty far out, you know, and you can
even you know, have pretty good models of knowing like, okay, yeah,
this thing is gonna pass through, Like it's like with
that Apotheus thing, like it's going to pass through this keyhole.
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And if it passes through this keyhole between the Earth
and the Moon, then the next time in orbits it's
gonna hit us. Like they they can kind of gather that.
The good thing with that is, though we do have
technology where because really, if we catch it soon enough,
we just have to try to bump it, you know,
just just a little off its course, because you know,
(31:13):
a single degree of a bump over a huge distance,
you're gonna be fine. We're not gonna like Bruce willis
this in a pocket or whatever they did and try
to fucking nuke it or whatever. The hell they tried
to do in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That right, just make smaller shrapnel pieces.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, because what is that movie? They were like, oh, yeah,
we're gonna split it and it's gonna split right around
the Earth like exactly, how like right, shut the fuck.
It's so dumb. But with these thirty seven thousand known,
there are also one hundred and twenty known short period
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near Earth comets. Now, I think the comets are a
little easier to track because as they get close to
the Sun, you know, they leave that tail with since
they're more of like an icy body. The problem is
is the same stuff that is made here on Earth
is the same stuff floating out there, and not all
of it is icy. Some of it's just straight up
(32:14):
iron and you're not going to be able to see it.
You know, it's not very reflect well it's not, you know,
so it's I don't know, man, this is one of
those things where we have definitely been hit by asteroids
in the past and it caused mass extinctions. And I
don't think that's anything anybody wants to, you know, have
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to live through. I think i'd want it to take
me out.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah right, I don't want to live the post apocalyptic
earth lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, but speaking of Apothus, everybody we get something to
look forward to, so everybody freak out. So Apothus is
one of those near Earth asteroids that will safely pass
close to Earth on April thirteenth, twenty twenty nine, only
a few years away.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Nine. Yeah, I thought there was one in twenty thirty
two that they were saying could hit us.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I think this is the same one. I'm trying
to trying to figure it out right now, real time
research people, this is this is how much so much
prep I do. Sarah is the professional one. I'm just
the wing up person. Here we go. Okay, yeah, I
got you. So it is supposed to say pass safely
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on April thirteen, twenty twenty nine. It is a potentially
hazardous asteroid, though, meaning it is large enough to cause
significant damage if it were to impact Earth. It was
once proposed that potential threat of impact in twenty twenty nine,
twenty thirty six, and twenty sixty eight. Astronomers have not
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determined that there's no risk of Apothes hitting Earth for
at least the next one hundred years. But I feel
like this is a don't look up situation, Sarah, Yeah,
probably just saying that. They're probably just saying that so
nobody freaks out.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Maybe there's this one I found, asteroid twenty twenty four.
Y are four?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Hey man, See I love astrophysicists and their names for stuff. Man,
it's just right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It says the it no longer poses a significant threat,
but it might impact the moon in twenty thirty two.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Fuck that. Yeah, the Moon's kind of important to us,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Right, Well, maybe we'll get two moons out of it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't know if I want two moons, because then
it's gonna mess with the tides. It's gonna mess with
you know, yeah, rotation the earth, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Everyone's gonna go crazy. You think one full moonspan, we
till you.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Have two double were wolves? Yeah, all those, all those
what's what's the word astrology? People? Man, they'll just have
a new thing for everything, you know. Yeah, we'll have
a new reason why you said people are going batshit crazy.
(35:07):
So well, let's take a look at I want to
see this now since we're just doing real time research listeners,
this is great, I know for you guys. I want
to see what the actual size of the asteroid that
destroyed the dinosaurs and kind of give it some comparison
to what we had. So we know that the one
overton Gusco was about what sixty five I believe is
(35:30):
what it was. Sixty five meters. Yeah, this one was
six miles in diameter. Yeah, okay, so significantly bigger though, right.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, because it created what the Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Or Yeah, they're pretty sure that's where it hit in
the area. Now obviously plate tectonics and whatnot. Like, here
we go, I got a I got one for you
that I can. So this is supposedly, which I think
they have good evidence for, this is where it did hit.
But yeah, you can kind to see it from right here.
Supposedly hit in that area, and I think it kind
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of like came up from South America and probably impacted
So that's probably why you have that massive Yeah, like yeah,
right now, I don't know though if this was I
don't think they know either. I could be wrong. I
think this one actually impacted the Earth. I don't think
it was one of those air.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Bursts, right, No, I think it did impact the earth.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, here we go. So the crater was estimated to
be one hundred and twenty miles in diameter and about
a depth of zero point sixty two miles, so it
went more than half a mile into the earth and
had a crater that was this, you know, size of
some states.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So oh my god, I would not want to see
that coming.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well that's the bad thing. Like I think you probably
would be able to see that coming. Like right, ah,
here we go. Let's look at some some artists hardest
renditions of the ship just hanging out, you know, flying
on your plane, Sarah, here you go. This is what
you fucking see. Just a mess.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, that would be wild. I mean, yeah, you're just
chomping on some leaves as a.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Dinosaur it out, man, just trying to you know, just
trying to eat, trying to sleep and trying to make
more dinosaurs. The next thing, you know, this big motherfucker
just comes into ruins the day. I don't know, man,
the whole thing with like space is scary as fuck,
and I.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Don't really small.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, I don't think people understand. Like I have had
those moments, you know, where I'm outside and I'm staring
up at the sky and I'm like, man, I just
like all this stuff out here. I feel so utterly insignificant,
and we just live in such like the perfect spot
for this particular type of life to happen. But all
it takes is one little thing, a fucking solar flare,
(37:57):
an asteroid something hitting the Moon and knocking it off
its orbit, you know what I mean, like, and then
we're done, over right, No big deal, Thanks for thanks
for all you did for the however long the human
race has been alive, but no more, you guys, Yeah,
all right, we'll end well. But that's the thing. I
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don't think it will, because with what we have as
far as technology goes, and we've seen such an exponential
growth in the past three decades, you know what I mean.
And I don't think that's something that ever stops. I
think people are always innovating, whether it's good or bad.
I mean, I guess that's kind of irrelevant. But stuff
(38:43):
like this we're going to. I mean, we're already starting
to get to that point where space travel is becoming
more efficient, and the second it becomes more efficient and
corporations can actually make money off of it, will be
up there all the time. You know that, no question
asked or or have another opposing country to what China say, Hey,
(39:04):
we're building a base on Mars. Dude, we will be
on fucking Mars tomorrow. Be like, no, you're not right.
This is our ours. We planted a flag, it means
it's ours now, you know, right, Yeah, no, I mean
I don't know. There was an interesting little documentary I
was watching last night, kind of doing scrolling on YouTube
(39:25):
and talking about having like telescopes on the Moon on
the far side, you know, having us being able to
help track some of these things. Being in the shadow
of the moon might help, you know, give us more
understanding not only of like what's out there, but how
we can track it a little easier and stuff like that.
So it's pretty interesting. I think that's probably the way
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it's gonna go because we, like I said earlier, we
have the technology to like prevent it from happening. Now
we just need to know like ahead of.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Time, right, Yeah, we need enough time to implement it.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah. And I think a lot of people like there's
always this weird like kind of cultural mindset, and I'm
pretty sure it's gone back as far as human beings
have ever existed. It's like, well, we don't need to
worry about this. We got problems here. We need to
worry about this, you know, like we got like you
could see cavemen back in the day, Like, no, we're
not going to go over there and forge for food.
(40:20):
We got cave problems, you know what. I like. It's
one of those things where if we're not forward thinking
with this sort of stuff, I feel like it could
be absolutely devastating, you know, if we have the means
to do it. And I'm not saying we got to
drop everything we're doing as a society as human beings
and only develop it for space, but I mean as
a as the type of creatures we are. I mean,
(40:42):
that's inevitably where we're going. You know, we're not going
to just hang out on this planet, you know what
I mean, We're gonna well yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, we're already exploring out there.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So yeah, so yeah, it's kind of exciting, Sarah. I think, uh,
I think in our lifetime we're gonna we're gonna see
some really awesome stuff. This is going to hit us
in twenty twenty nine, fucking die.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah. I mean too, they're equally likely we've already seen
some really cool stuff. Yeah, No, I've seen the rise
of technology and the Internet.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, so that's what I was thinking. I remember, you know,
growing up in the nineties. I it was funny you
saw these like space movies back in the day where
you know, you made a call and you saw their
face and you're like, wow, that's amazing man, you know,
And now here it is I just meet listener Sarah
and I are seeing face to face right now.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
So it's crazy, right, Yeah, yeah, that would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I no, I mean, that's uh, that's really what I
got for Tan Guska. I mean it there was a
few things, like I said, some hoky theories about some
weird shit, but I don't think that's what it was.
I I honestly it was an air burst asteroid that
that hit some of those fucking experiences, whether they're credible
(41:56):
or not. That was fucking insane hearing those yeah and
girls like yeah, my shirt was on fire and then
I got blown thirty feet back. It's like, holy shit, man,
how are you alive?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Right? Maybe being blown back like blew out the fire. Yeah,
so that's how they survived. Wasn't it just hot air though?
Like just a wall of flames.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
But that's the thing, man, I feel like, I really
feel like the air would be on fire right points
of that. It would be such a high pressure, high
explosion that it would literally ignite the oxygen in the air. Yeah,
like if you're that far away and your fucking shirt
(42:42):
catches on fire, like yeah, yeah, I don't know, man.
You know, I've seen those simulator simulations of stuff of
like asteroid impacts and whatnot where they hit the Earth
and you just see like the the wall of fire
just in the whole fucking planet, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's just one of those where, well they'll probably have
a live stream of it if it happens, you know,
(43:03):
like whoever's in the iss is just gonna be like oh.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah right, oh my god. Then they'd be stuck up there.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Dude, the worst loneliest place you could be, you know,
right the the the way you're gonna die is you know,
you're gonna starve, You're gonna dive dehydration, or if you
have enough food and supplies, you're literally just gonna stay
up there until you suffocate.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like yeah, unless you walk out.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I guess I don't know if that's a I don't
know if that's the way i'd want to go. That decompression,
I feel like would really suck.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I'm right, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, that's that's about really all I got for for
the Tim Gusco event. So nice, it's it's a it
was a wild thing, and hopefully we don't see anything
like that happened in the in the near future, or
at least we do it. You know, we'll catch it
in time, but who knows. It's just one of those things.
So but like I said, that's probably gonna wrap it up.
(43:57):
So listeners, tell us what you think about Tim Guessca,
tell us what you think about asteroids? Is that really
what the teen Gusco event was? If you would like
to give me the craziest theories that you can possibly
come up with, I'm not going to entertain them, but
I would love to hear them. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, well,
so Sarah, we're both here for the wild conspiracies. We're
(44:20):
both here a crazy shit. I'm not entered. Yes, I'm
not saying I don't want to hear it. I'm just
saying I'm not going to believe it. That's the day.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, get your creative writing
going and yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, let's see there we go. We should have a
little contest the most creative idea of what the Teenusco
event actually was. We'll read it on the on an
episode or something like that, and maybe, who knows, maybe
that'll be like the thing that cracks it and we'll
actually know what instead of ninety nine point nine percent certainty,
we'll know with one hundred percent certainty what it was.
(44:54):
But right, anyway, listeners appreciate it. Anywhere you're interacting with this,
please do all the things, the liking, the you know, subscribing,
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Speaker 1 (45:16):
And as always, remember just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
they're not watching. See you next time on the paranoid
perspective
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