June 2, 2025 • 48 mins
This week on The Paranoid Perspective, we’re looking up at one of the strangest space conspiracies out there: the Hollow Moon theory. Is Earth’s lunar companion a giant alien spaceship? A monitoring device? Or just the victim of some creative (and questionable) interpretations of NASA data? We dig into the origins of the theory, the infamous "Moon rang like a bell" quote, and why people still think there’s something fishy about our not-so-hollow satellite. Spoiler: it's probably not aliens—but it’s a fun ride anyway.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Today we're going to get into the stuff they don't
want you to know the proverbial they okay, and the
proverbial they in this week's episode is going to be NASA. Sarah,
do you know what NASA stands for.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
North American Space Agency?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Nope, you would be wrong. You are a sheeple and
you just go off of the information that people give you.
It's never a straight answer because they're lying to us
all the time. No. I was listening to it. I
was listening to a podcast Advanda. This dude was all there,
just go with ham and that's what he fucking said.
And I about lost it when he said that. I
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was like, dude, I got use that. God, it was
so good.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's been good.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I thought. I was like, you know, you're crazy,
but man, that is creative. That is really creative. I
appreciate that sort of you know, creativity coming from such
an insane person. Anyway, listeners, we are talking about the
Hollow Moon and it's kind of wild. You know, there's
a lot of weird stuff in space, stuff that we
see out there that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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I mean, for instance, you know you probably heard of
like what is that the the Dark Knight satellite that
they photographed where you know, it's orbiting. It's probably a
piece of space debris, but it looks really weird, you know,
and who knows, We don't really know what it is.
And then you had that what's that here recently amuamua
that flew in from interstellar space? Yeah right, so yeah,
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and we've talked about it before, where the likelihood of
life is probably pretty high out in space. There's just
too many variables, you know. But those weird things, you know,
we never really have a straight answer because we just
don't know what it is. But listeners, today, I'm going
to expose the theory of something that we see every
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night looking up and maybe it's looking back at us.
I'm just kidding by the man in the moon. Yeah yeah,
the man in the moon. But let's let's get it. Yeah,
let's let's get into the hollow moon theory, okay, or
as it's also been coined, the spaceship Moon. Now these
really I've never heard that. I've never heard of it either,
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And see, listeners, I was going to do a double
feature for you today, but when I started talking about
the spaceship Moon, I was like, ah shit, I cannot
do a double feature like there's too much stuff, too
much truth to get out to you people. Okay, but
these are pseudoscientific hypotheses that propose that the Earth's moon
is either holy hollow, that's I love that phrase right there, hollow,
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or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. So there's no
scientific evidence, you know, exists to support this idea. But
you know, they're controlling the information, Sarah, So of course
they're not going to tell us what it is, you know,
because we never get a have.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
They ever have they ever drilled? They don't even know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
They don't even know that, you know. And the thing
with this is there have been there have been like
seismic observation data collected when we used to when we
were doing orbits of the moons with the Apollo missions
and the landings of the moons with the same missions.
Most of those indicated that it was solid with like
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a slightly thinner crust and extensive mantle in a dense core.
So it's similar to Earth, but it's not nearly as dense.
So I think that's where a lot of this hollow
Earth or hollow moon stuff kind of comes from. Is
there some sicular phrases that we'll get into that. People
have said in the past that just people jump on
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just because. Oh well, if that's what you said, that's
what it means, you know that whole thing. Yeah, but
you know why. The hollow Moon hypothesis usually proposes the
hollow space as a result of natural processes. The related
spaceship moon holds that the moon is an artifact created
by an alien civilization. This belief usually coincides with UFOs
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or the Ancient Aliens or the ancient astronaut theory. So,
if you guys are fans of they are you know,
they've been watching us from the beginning. If you guys
are a fan of you know, the History Channel, I'm
sure you've got people listeners. You've seen Ancient Aliens with
Georgio Suclos with his crazy hair, and you've definitely seen
the meme of the Aliens. You know, he's great alien.
(05:54):
He is so great dude. And see, one thing I
will tell say about him is he is so unabashably
unafraid to say what he thinks. I'm here for it now.
Some of his stuff it's a little out there. Do
I believe in a lot of what he says? Not
really but he one percent is all in and I
gotta respect them. So, but this idea of this spaceship
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moon or this hollow moon, there's a I don't want
to get into, like the super super past, because you're
going off of cultures and whatnot that really we're more
storytellers and passing these down before written language, you know
what I mean. And so there's there's there's some things
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where there's like ancient cultures talking about a time before
the moon, like but does that was that really what
they were saying or you know what I mean, It's
it's hard to kind of yeah, pin that down right.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, there's a lot of different origin stories that are
not based in reality.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's like the typical like you know,
the Earth is on the back of a turtle, you know,
going through the cosmos. So and we know for sure
that we are not on the back of a turtle
swimming through the cosmos. So, but the mainstream idea of
this dates probably in like the seventies. There were two
Soviet authors that published a short piece in the popular press.
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This press is called Sputnik. It's like the reader's digest
for the Soviet Union. Back in the day, and we
know no men's information came out from the Soviet Union
during that time, or even America for that matter. You know,
that was the age of disinformation. You know, we think
we live in a crazy world, now do. They were
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lying about shit left and right just to kind of
one up each other.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So that's true. They got to be the best, right
even at lying to their.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Even at lying to their own people. But so this
was published. It was a I believe the article was
published something like the spaceship moon theory, Like I think
that's kind of where it started coming from, and then
it kind of like diverged off into like the hollow Moon,
and those two are kind of like intermingled. I've seen
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a lot of people kind of say the same thing
about both, So I'm not going to like do like
separate pieces for these, but essentially, like I kind of
said earlier, the piece was speculating that the moon was
a creator of alien intelligence and somehow placed to observe
and watch and do whatever these aliens be doing.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, it was just like dropped and.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, apparently it's just like up here, you go, We're
gonna hang out here for eons. But this theory has
been endorsed by conspiracy theorists like Jim Mars and David Ike. Okay,
David Ike is one of those weird ones because he
used to be like a I believe he was a
football player, and I think when I say football, I
don't mean the American football and soccer instead of being
(09:02):
like he. I think he was a sportscaster for a while.
But I can't remember the entire story. But apparently he
slipped and hit his head and reptilians came and talked
to him.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, yeah, yeah, we shall talk about him.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
We need to do a whole episode on David Ike.
From what I saw off of, this is very very interesting.
But then you know, with this sort of stuff they
they kind of it kind of made its way into
pop culture too, So it's been in science fiction movies,
like earliest being HG. Wells and in the novel The
First Men on the Moon. You know that that was
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part of So even before they started talking about this
like spaceship theory, people were already thinking that the moon
could possibly be hollow, with little evidence to support that.
It was just more of a thought that they had, right,
And then you know, other works such as the Hollow
Earth and Nils Kim's Underground Travels. I've never heard of
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that one. That is a novel from this seen that's
a novel from the seventeen hundred. So that's makes sense.
Why I'm happy I added that in my notes because
I was like, where the hell did that come from?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Right? If anyone knows about it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, give us a shout on on on Nell's Kim's
Underground Travels. But in all seriousness, the hollow Earth the
hollow Moon, you know, they're kind of coincide with each other.
They are universally considered to be fringe or conspiracy theories
to the sheeple. Okay, like I said, that's right, But
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let's talk about like actual hard facts about the moon.
Well for us, you know, uninitiated heart facts, people that
believe that the Earth is or the Moon is hollow.
Then you know these are not hard facts. This is
just all lie. We kind of talked about the density
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of the difference between like the Earth and the Moon,
and I think this is like where a lot of
this miss you know, misplaced thought comes from. Right. The
moon It's density is let's see three or three point
three grams per centimeter whereas Earth is five point five
grams percentimeter. I'm not gonna pretend like I know what
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that means, but what I can see from just those
numbers is that the Earth is more dense. Okay, mainstream science.
The reason why they say that this is the case
is due to the Earth's upper mantle in the crust
are less dense than its heavier core. So it's almost
like from what I'm reading for here, you know, the
Moon has this rocky outer core, but then it's kind
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of malleable throughout the rest of it. It's not as solid,
you know what I mean. Now, when we say not
as solid, we're still talking about rock. We're still talking
about some like I believe there is cooled magma that
is still malleable to a certain extent. We're not talking
about silly putty that you can pick up and just
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play with. We're talking about a solid material. Like if
you just saw it, you would you would think it's
a solid piece of rock. But in comparison to the Earth,
it's not as dense. So Yeah, there was a phrase
that happened during the Apollo missions. The moon rang like
a bell. This is rare. Yeah, I was about to
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say that this is what people freaking hold on to. Okay,
So between nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy seven, seismometers
were installed on the Moon by the Apollo Missions to
record moonquakes. I don't know why the word moonquakes terrifies
the shit out of me, but that is like that
sounds so scary.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So earthquake, but moon, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I don't know. It just doesn't seem like it should
be a thing. But when the Moon was described as
ringing like a bell during some of those quakes, especially
the shallow ones, this phrase was brought to attention and
a nineteen seventies article popular and popular. So when we've
talked about like the density if it's not as dense
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these moonquakes, like like we're talking when I was listening
to a podcast earlier today, you know, they registered on
the Richter scale anywhere from like four to five on
the Richter scale, so enough if we were here on
Earth to like you would feel it right, and it
would move some stuff, not enough to have like structural
damage to like hardstanding buildings, but you would definitely feel it.
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The problem is these moonquakes last for hours. They just
keep going back and forth through the medium until there's
not enough of that power to you know, move anymore.
It's slowed down by the actual density of the moon.
But like I said earlier, since it's so much less dense,
they just keep kind of going back and forth. Where
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has here on Earth? You know, you might have an
earthquake lasts for a couple of minutes, you know, compared
to those couple hours that you would get. So when
when I think they when they said ring like a
ring like a bell, that's what we're referring to, Like
if you hit a bell, you were using an analogy. People.
We're not saying that it is physically ring like a bell.
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It's an analogy to talk about the reverberations going through
the material that keeps cycling through like a bell. That
is what we're referring to. But debunked well, probably not.
But like I said, listeners, I don't really know. I'm
not going to sit here and claim I'm a scientist
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or know how to you know, do hardly any of
this stuff. I'm just going off of what I'm reading,
probably from the wrong things because I'm just a sham.
I have a question, I have an answer.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Maybe, yeah, maybe, like what causes the moonquake since is
that like the crust is under like how our earthquakes are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, so there are the Moon is relatively for its size,
it's cool down quite a lot since the formation of it.
We'll kind of talk about how the mainstream you know,
science thinks that the Moon was formed, but it still
has like a malleable magma ish sort of material between
the crust and the core that still shifts, so similar
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processes that we would have here on Earth with you know,
our plate tetonics are magma that flows it underneath the crust.
It's just not as active as you would think, but
since it's less dense and not as big, they last
for a lot longer.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Hmm. Okay, so that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah. So one of the ways that NASA, you know,
supposedly got these seismic readings was they deliberately crashed Apollo
twelves ascent stage and from the Liner module into the
surface to try to get like data off of that. Now, see,
this is where it gets kind of funny because you
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hear people that talk about this and they the same
people that say the moon landing was fake. Are the
same people that say the moon's hollow and they use
these freaking references. We can't have our cake and eat
it too, okay, right, yeah, I'm just saying, well.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
They didn't land, they just crashed into it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Fair, fair, But how how then did they have seismic
monitors on the ground if like they Yeah, exactly, Well
that's what I'm saying. I'm here. I'm here for a
good conspiracy theory, but I'm not here for some bs
where you say, oh, yeah, well they did this and
this one during the Apollo missions. But then you know,
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also say that the moonlighting is fake. Whatever. Maybe people
that believe in the hollow moon think the moon landing
was real. I don't know. I'm just going off of,
you know, my own bias here towards people that are idiots.
So all right, let's talk about this. I'm going to
do my best to say this name I think I can.
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It's it's the gentleman that posted the Spaceship Moon article,
Vassin shier A Bakhav Shira Bakhov share A Bakhoff. We're
going to go with that. That that's pretty okay. So,
like I said, this was published in Sputnik, which is
kind of like the Soviet Union's reader digest at the time,
the gentleman Alexander Vasen svak. No, it's two people. I'm sorry, Yeah,
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I misread that. Michael Vassen and Alexander Shira Bakhoff. Yep,
we're going to go there. They were both of the
Soviet Academy of Sciences when they advanced the hypothesis that
the moon was a spacecraft created by onion beans. The
title of the article, which I believe is still out
and about and loosely translated from you know, Russian to English,
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is the moon the creation of alien intelligence? Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What a question?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I know. So. The authors referenced early speculation by
a certain astrophysicists too suggested that the Martian moon Phobos
was an artificial satellite. I don't know. I couldn't find
like any like information as to why that person thought that,
because that has been definitely shown not to be the case.
Like calleing Phobos like a moon. It's so small, you know,
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it might as well Like, yes, technically, I guess by
definition it is a moon, but it's not. It's not anything.
It's just a looks like an asteroids. It's what it
looks like. But so they kind of they kind of
bought into that like ancient astronaut, ancient alien thing when
they were writing, you know, this whole thing is that
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it just didn't I don't know, it's almost like we
were looking for answers. They were trying to deliberately like
undermine what the United States was doing with their space program.
That's what it really seems like, more than anything, which
I think was probably like the reason for the article
was to kind of get like because man, like the
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disinformation between like the Soviet Union and United States during
that time was huge talking about you know, you had
a at that time, at least on paper, a mostly
Christian society in the West and a very atheist society
in you know, Russia and the Soviet Union. And then
when they're talking about this, they're equating a lot of
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stuff in space and what not to not anything like
heavenly or divine, but just extraterrestrial intelligence, you know what
I mean. Like, so there was a lot of this,
Like I feel like this might have not been as
serious as some people take it. I think it was
more of a disinformation thing to try to convince people
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to go away from theatism to more atheism and kind
of get their way into that sort of mindset of
thinking more like the Soviet Union than how we were
in that time. That's just my own opinion. So we're
going to talk about some reasons why they're people think
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that the moon is manufactured or placed here by another intelligence.
One of the things is the perfect solar eclipses that
we have. It fits perfectly over the Sun. Now here's
the thing with that, people that may not know the
moon is every Yeah, I mean, it is moving away
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from us. So there will be a point in time
where the Sun does not or the moon does not
perfectly eclipse the Sun. It'll be quite a ways down
the road. You know, we're talking hundreds of thousands, if
not millions of years, but eventually it will be so
far out where it will not cover up the Sun perfectly.
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Just because something happens and it looks like it was
designed doesn't mean it was designed. It could just be
when we That's the thing. I try to look out
and when I see things out in the universe, like
you see things that are so incredible, you know, you
see all these stars, all these galaxies, all this stuff,
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and it's so big. You have an infinite possibility of
how something can be formed, So you're going to see
an infinite number of ways it could be formed. I
personally think the way that the Moon was created. We
had thea supposedly a planetoid hit us in our early formation.
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It broke off a substantial amount of material. That material
coalesced into the Moon that we have today. That's why
when you go up to the Moon and we took samples,
we were like, holy shit, this is stuff from Earth.
You know. It's one of those things where I don't
I don't like when things are like, oh well, it's
just so perfect. It does like right, Nature has a
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way again, right, It's it goes back to like the
hubrius of I think our species that oh, this planet
was made perfect for just us. It's like, well, no,
our planet was made perfect for everything that currently lives
here and previously lived here. I mean what it's what
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nature does. It's a survival of the fittest or whatever
you want to call it. It's like you're going to
adapt to your current environment and that's what you're going
to have. As far as the Moon being perfectly aligned
with the Sun for a solar eclipse, I think it's
just a huge coincidence. That's all I seriously think it is.
I don't think it's anything crazy like that. But I
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also think it's super rad that we get to live
and see full solar eclipses and completely block out the
Sun for that period of time, and it's amazing. It
makes me understand why ancient cultures were like, God's mad
at us. We can't be doing this stuff anymore, Grab
all the kids and kill them because we got to
appease God. Now, you know, I totally get it, because
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if you saw that back in the day, holy shit,
you'd be like, well, we're done. Yeah, yeah, the world's
ending literally for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So it's just one of those things where I'm not
a huge fan of when people say that it's like
so perfect for us, and this is why it's doing
this and this. It's like, yeah, maybe, but it could
just be that that's the size of the chunk that was,
you know, hit from us and coal West. That's just
what it happened to be. You know, if we didn't
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have a in the early formation of the solar system,
if we didn't have something that hit us, we'd be
in a we'd be on a very different planet right now,
we might not even exist, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, so it'd be some other creature.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it'd be it'd be some other weird looking thing
talking about the same thing about how you know, we
don't have a moon and it's really weird that we
don't have a moon.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So right, yeah, yeah, the aliens took it away.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
They took it away from us.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, that's what the alternate one.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So we've talked a lot about like kind of being
in the realm of reality, and we haven't really talked
a whole lot about, you know, what this hollow moon
actually could possibly be. So let's get into this. So
this is from that article that I was talking about
was the moon or is the moon a creation of
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alien intelligence? Question mark? So the hypothesis relies heavily on
that large craters, generally assumed to be formed by meteor
impacts to all the sheeple out there, are generally too
shallow and too flat or to have like the concact
vex bottoms, you know what I mean. Small craters would
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have depth proportion of their diameter, but large craters are
not any deeper. So it's like it's kind of like
we're you're looking at like, I guess an average depth
of all these asteroid and celestial impacts and whatnot. It
is hypothesized that for small meteors making a cup shaped
depression in the rocky surface of the Moon while the
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meteor's drilling through like I don't know, five miles, you know,
if they were to, you know, really hit hard, they
should have hit like an underneath hole apparently. But the
thing is about it, it's like they're saying that, Okay,
everything is too uniform on the Moon. Everything looks the same.
It had to have been manufactured. Yeah, I don't know.
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It doesn't it that that whole part of it doesn't
really doesn't really mean anything. There is a really good picture.
I'm going to share my screen real quick of a
possible what the moon actually looks like, so we can
give me your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Conserra, Oh, who made this looks a little like Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't I don't know. Okay, we're just I'm just
going off of what I got for you. Okay, So
for listeners, right now, we're looking at a picture of
the Moon and it has a cutout and you're looking
I don't know, like relatively speaking, a pretty thin upper
layer of rock that is surrounded by a metal like crust,
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probably a couple miles thick right here, you know what
I mean. But then inside we have this awesome structure,
a core right here that's orange that looks like it's
powering everything. These offshoots that are coming off from supposedly
I don't know, research areas, living facilities, eating facility, like,
I mean, who knows what could be in there. But yeah,
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that is a proposed you know picture.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, I think they could use they could use the
space a little bit better if.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
They're doing that well, Sarah, they are advanced aliens that
most likely reptilians, and that is the shape that works
the best for them. Okay, the reptilians, I got.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
They're in the earth.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
They both see once again, Sarah, don't ask questions. This
is just what that is. The alien creatures that are
supposedly up there are reptilians and supposedly in the earth too.
I feel like it's a it's an honest scapegoat.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah. They just like being in the center of everything.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah. Yeah, they're just a tention horse, you know. They
just like being you know, part of everything and it's
all about me, Me, me, I. So supposedly this structure
is mostly hollow. It has everything from research facilities to
monitoring facilities, to radio you know, transmitters, receivers, places to sleep,
places to eat, do like anything you could possibly need.
(27:52):
Like it. Imagine like the Star Wars Death Star. That's
what is literally orbiting are round Earth right now with
an advanced alien technology. Yeah, I mean that's that's literally
the best way to think about it, and to kind
of go back a little bit, I understand because the
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way that like the size of our moon is super odd.
It's way too big compared to the other moons that
we have for the other planets in our Solar system.
But that doesn't mean that it's created by aliens or
just plopped you know in the perfect place for tides
and you know, having like our lunar cycle that happens
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like that. It whatever. But yeah, there are so many
different ideas of like the purpose of this. So one
purpose is for monitoring, monitoring what I'm not sure us
I would assume. But once again, that kind of gives
me like that huborus of mankind sort of thing, like
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why would an advanced alien civilization that can travel intergalactically
be like, hey, look at these stupid chimps with guns
and nukes, Like I think.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, that would be their entertainment.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Maybe I think it would like I'm not trying to
say that, like I think we would be somewhat interesting
to advance civilizations, but at the same time interesting enough
to put like an alien megastructure around our planet, right,
I don't think that's the most effective way to do it,
So it just seems kind of odd. And then there's
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another theory that I saw that the hollow Moon is
meant for to kind of like keep us in check
whatever species is up there. It's meant to like if
we get two out of hand, they got like an outpost.
Instead of going all the way from their home planet
wherever the hell that is, you know, they can just
you know, hop right on over because they're like, hey,
(29:56):
knock it off, humans, we don't need to be doing
anything like that anymore, you know, or whatever that may be.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But most I wonder what would trigger that. How extreme
does it need to be?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I don't know, but it's yeah, it's it's an odd
thing with with like there's no obvious concrete like this
is definitely what it is. And every time we do
have anything concrete of like, oh no, it's just a
ball of rock that is extremely malleable, like we talked
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about earlier, it's like, nuh uh, look into it, bro,
It's like the flat Earth all over again. Just just
look into it. But yeah, supposedly, supposedly these reptilians are
the ones that are that are living and working out
of this place. And I don't know, I've never been
like a huge fan of like the whole reptilian thing
(30:48):
because it has like religious connotation and also like, I
don't know, it's it's really weird.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So, but there is some interesting testimony supposedly from mister
Neil Armstrong about when he walked on the moon.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Supposedly, so I feel hollow when you walk or what.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So when Neil Armstrong took his walk on the moon
and became the first man to do so, what followed
was an onspot onslaught of conspiracy theories of course, because
people thought it was fake. People thought it was filmed
in a Hollywood set. You know, it's not, you know.
For one, his restoric control on the Moon claimed to
have been shot in the studio like I said. One
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of the conspiracy theories surrounding this moment is that remains
a mystery to the state. So during the Paul eleven
mission in nineteen sixty nine, after Armstrong landed on the Moon,
said claim to have lost communication for roughly two minutes.
They don't know why now. Reportably, there was a secret
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message to NASA from Armstrong on a secret channel and
he said, quote, these babies are huge, sir, enormous. Oh
my god, you wouldn't believe it. I'm telling you. There
are other spacecrafts out here lined up as far on
the far side of a crater's edge, and they're watching us, and.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's why they cut it off or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Supposedly. Supposedly now there babies.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I thought, you mayabi, I don't know. I was like,
why not just the chips or whatever?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, now I don't I don't know Neil Armstrong. I
know it was a different time and whatnot, But like,
these babies were huge, or these babies are huge. That's
such a weird thing to say, Like.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, doesn't sound like I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like if I okay, one, I'm trying to put myself
in the headspace of those astronauts that orbited the moon
and that landed on the moon and walked on the moon.
That had to be like the most terrifying, exciting, anxiety
ridden moment ever, right because you have no idea what's
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gonna happen, zero idea. You're just open. Shit works. And
I feel like if you were the first person on
the moon, one, that is has to be an unbelievable feeling. Two,
if you step off and you're just like, holy shit,
there are spacecraft, there are aliens. Like you wouldn't say
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these babies are huge. You'd probably be like, holy shit, right,
like I need yeah, what, Yeah, I'm leaving like I
did that. That phrase in that quote always makes me
laugh because it just doesn't make sense to me. And granted,
(34:03):
once again, I know it's nineteen sixty nine. I know
the terminology and the phraseology of what you know, the
English language was different. These babies are huge, sir, Like,
that's what I'm expecting him saying, like, what are you talking?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I don't think so. I don't think that's what he'd say.
He'd say, holy shit, let me off of this.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, I gotta go. Oh god, I don't know. So
there's another there's another one from another astronaut, So Alan
Bean claims he saw something shiny on the moon described
it as shoe leather, quote unquote, So we're talking something
very very reflective. I don't know why shoe leather is
(34:42):
the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, shoe leather is reflective.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't know. But while you would expect space to
be black and devoid of light and places, there were
shiny things that he saw. Could it have been glass,
could have been reflection. There's not an explanation for this one. Okay.
So it's that's kind of one of those weird ones
where you know, light here on Earth like play tricks
(35:08):
on you. You know, the shadows will play tricks on you.
You're in a place that is completely alien and completely
foreign to anything that you've ever seen, and you're gonna
like your senses are going to be on high alert
and you're going to start to like see weird stuff
that happens, you know, And who's to say that, like,
you're not in that bubble of that protective you know,
(35:31):
what is it the that I'm probably going to say
this wrong because I'm not a scientist or I don't
I'm not a learned person. I'm a sheeple. The magnetic
field that covers the Earth. I don't know if that
stretches out to the Moon, you know what I mean,
I don't. I don't know that. So if it doesn't,
I don't think it does. I don't think it does either.
(35:51):
But if you're getting hit with all this extra stuff
that you're not used to seeing, there's a really crazy
thing that would happen. Astronauts even in the is would
talk about like they would see like flashes of light
like when they close their eyes, and what it is
is fucking particles going through your fucking head. Oh wow,
(36:12):
so radiation like no, like physical part like physical items
so small, hitting your fucking retina and just ripping through
it right right. So if you're out in like not
I mean, the moon wouldn't be like deep space, but
(36:33):
you're out in space away from the protective field of
the Earth. Yeah, I'm sure you're gonna get hit with
shit like that because it's all over the place. And yeah,
I mean that that's what I'm kind of thinking. It
could have been that like shiny whatever, like oh he
saw a flash of light, Well it might have been
a particle, you know, hitting you in your retina and
fucking you up a little bit. But yeah, wow, Yeah.
(36:57):
The thing is with with this whole moon thing, I
never have like any like concrete evidence besides a bunch
of like bs conjecture from people that don't think the
moon landing happened most of the time, you know what
I mean, Right, And the thing is, we as a
(37:18):
species haven't If you do believe the moon landing happened,
we haven't explored enough of it to really know anything
about it. I mean, there have been people that have
talked about, you know, colonizing the Moon. I think that's
eventually what's going to happen. And who knows. We get
up there and there are aliens up there and they
are watching us, and they're like, hey, you gotta go.
(37:39):
This is our rock beat it, you know what I mean.
But they have talked about if they do have established
settlements there, the utilizing craters and these like lava tubes
that were created when you know the surface was still
really molten is usually the best thing to do because
a lot of that stuff that I was talking about,
those high speed parts of the radiation, stuff like that,
(38:01):
it won't be able to hit you if you're under
that ground, you know what I mean. So I get
the reasoning for why people would think it would be hollow.
I'm personally not buying that it's hollow, but that's kind
of where we're at as far as the hollow Moon thing.
There is one more astronaut account. This wasn't on the Moon, though,
(38:22):
but I still thought it was kind of interesting. And
this is about Scott Kelly. He spent a lot of
time on the International Space Station. I believe he's one
of the people that spent the longest up there. I
didn't see out, but he thinks. I think it was
like over a year he was up there, but he
went to he became one of the Yeah, he had
the most hours out of any astronaut so far, so
(38:44):
I don't know why they said hours, but he's definitely
been up there the longest. But that's not the only
thing that makes a story stand out. Kelly has said
things that suggest he had a big brush quote unquote
with aliens, a big brush. While he's not set in
I don't know this is. This is the other thing
where it's kind of it's it's kind of weird. He
(39:08):
has not said so himself. In many words, he jokes
and seems like it's more like, ah ha, yeah, this
is what happened, you know what I mean? Uh, But
he mentioned in an interview that he spoke about aliens
having it easier in space than we do.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, yeah, what is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't know, but I kind of thought it was
funny because this is that's one of those things where
you have no substance, you have know nothing, you have
absolutely nothing to go off of. You're going off of
it rang like a bell. That means it's hollow. That's
what that fucking quote reads to me. And that is
what every time I see these crazy conspiracies. Like I've
(39:49):
said before, I am down. I am so down for
a crazy conspiracy. I'm not down for dumb stuff like
the moon is hollow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
What about it's a hologram?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
So I kind of was thinking about getting into the
like the holographic side of things, and then like that
it's just you know, an illusion to us. The only
reason why I would say that, you know, if we're
looking up and we see that if we were thinking
it was a hologram, it wouldn't block out the sun
when we do we have solar eclipses, you know what
(40:24):
I mean. Yeah, and they and I know most people
probably that are on the side of the hollow moon
or anything like that won't believe the statement I'm about
to say. But during the apollomissions, they put reflectors up there.
That way we could measure the distance and see where
how far and where it wanes and flows and distances
and stuff like that, along with other scientific, you know,
(40:47):
research material. So like you can literally shoot a laser
from a telescope and get an exact distance from Okay, cool,
it's at this distance now because of the reflectors up
on the moon. So that's cool. Yeah, I mean, but
that's the thing. It's like once once again, my my
(41:09):
question to all of these people is what's the point?
I need the why? I need I need the why.
And it's just like, well there they it was just
put there and they were just watching us. Why why? Why?
Why are we? Like, what's the point what's so important
about the human beings that we have. It's our own
(41:30):
spaceship moon of aliens watching us right now. Like that's
so stupid.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, there really is no point about it. Also,
like we do so much cool shit like why you
don't have to make it up?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean, I mean and and truth
be told, maybe maybe I am just being a sheep
right now and just going off of the information that
science and NASA has been lying to me about this
entire time, and I'm just buying into it hook line
and sinker, and I just haven't looked into it. Bro.
(42:06):
My thing is usually the easiest explanation is the right explanation,
the one that makes sense, the one that you're not like, huh,
I wonder about this part of this or whatever. It's
usually the one that makes the most sense, what makes
the most sense to me personally. When we were forming
it early in our Solar system, another planet that was
forming early hid into us, knocked off a bunch of material,
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made us, you know, a huge moon that we shouldn't have,
And it's a lot of coincidence. That's really where I'm at,
you know what I mean. I don't think it's anything more.
I don't think it's anything less. I think it's awesome
that we have such a huge moon that we've gone
to and we've visited, and we have scientific research for
(42:52):
and I think that we're going to be living on it.
I mean, I wouldn't be shocked Sarah if we if
in yr in my lifetime that we have people that
are stationed up on the Moon, you know, instead of
an International Space station, Yeah, we have the the International
Moon Station. Fuck yeah, I'd go up there. Did I
(43:12):
go up there? In a heartbeat? I don't think I'd
go Why.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Well, I mean again, anything could go wrong. You have
no oxygen or anything. I mean, I'm not trusting other
people to get me up there and back. Like, am
I just going to live up there? You're just subject.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I mean, you're only like disaster every day, You're only
like four days away.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, but I'm not living in the colony.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
The colony, yeah, the moony is.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, I'm not interested in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
What what if a cult happens on the moon you
can't get away?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You think won't happen, you think it will one hundred
percent will happen. You will have a completely different society,
forming a whole different government, a whole different like thought process. Fuck,
you might even have a whole nother religion that comes
out of living on the Moon, and the same thing
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as we start to like spread out as a species.
That is what is going to happen. It's instead of like, oh,
we don't like that country over there right now, we're
going to be sitting here on Earth like, oh those
Martians over there, they're just a bunch of pieces of
shit trying to take all of our you know whatever.
You know, that's how it's going to be, because human
beings are yeah, all of our oxygen. I work so
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hard and all they do is take, take, take.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
But in all seriousness, I'm not buying the Hollow Moon.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
What do you think it's, Sarah, Yeah, I don't think so.
Now I will say I think it's just a quin.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah that the artists rendentation or the artists you know,
Hollow Moon andition rendition. Thank you, Sarah. Words are hard. See,
that's what we're here for, here to help each other out.
Mostly me, I did. I did like and appreciate that
because that is kind of cool. It kind of looks
like one of those ant colony things, you know what
I mean of where the they kind of dug out
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everything and you know, have little tubes everyone everywhere.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
It looked like it was done in like paint.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Probably was like MS paint. Most likely I want a
better one.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I want like an architecture sketch.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Okay, well, let's let's see hang on before we end
this episode. I know this is great podcasting. We're gonna
find the most detailed hollow moon we can possibly find. Okay, okay,
so let's go to good old Google images. I know, listeners,
this is so fantastic. But this is more for Sarah
(45:44):
and I so selfishly that's what we're gonna do. Look
at it there. We don't have fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, probably this one that's like that. It's like a
hole through the whole the whole moon. It's like a
hole through it, like a bullish true.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Even better, it's the only one I see. Yeah, here's
a good one for you, Sarah. Here, we're sure I'm
sharing this one. Okay, you'll love this. This is a
This is a fantastic one.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I like that one better. Yeah. It's like they're the like, uh,
what was it the monkey toy? Yeah? They yep, they're
chained together. Yeah, but aliens.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, little green men hanging on the bars of the
hollow moons sucks right good?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, you know, and like I said, who knows, maybe
you know, fifty years from now I'll be uh, I'll
be calling you up and be like Sarah, I'm on
the moon right now at the Mooney Settlement and guess what,
there ain't ship up here. Sucks.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I definitely woun't want to be part of
the first group to go.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Oh no, no, no, I'm wanting at least a couple
of thousand go through first. Man. Yeah, I'm not I'm
not doing that. So yeah, definitely not being the first.
But listeners, this is kind of a silly one. Hope
you guys enjoyed the quote unquote hollow moon the theory,
and I would say more of It's definitely a hypothesis,
not a theory. But yeah, so that's going to do
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Today we're going to get into the stuff they don't
want you to know the proverbial they okay, and the
proverbial they in this week's episode is going to be NASA. Sarah,
do you know what NASA stands for.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
North American Space Agency?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Nope, you would be wrong. You are a sheeple and
you just go off of the information that people give you.
It's never a straight answer because they're lying to us
all the time. No. I was listening to it. I
was listening to a podcast Advanda. This dude was all there,
just go with ham and that's what he fucking said.
And I about lost it when he said that. I
(01:59):
was like, dude, I got use that. God, it was
so good.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's been good.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I thought. I was like, you know, you're crazy,
but man, that is creative. That is really creative. I
appreciate that sort of you know, creativity coming from such
an insane person. Anyway, listeners, we are talking about the
Hollow Moon and it's kind of wild. You know, there's
a lot of weird stuff in space, stuff that we
see out there that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
(02:25):
I mean, for instance, you know you probably heard of
like what is that the the Dark Knight satellite that
they photographed where you know, it's orbiting. It's probably a
piece of space debris, but it looks really weird, you know,
and who knows, We don't really know what it is.
And then you had that what's that here recently amuamua
that flew in from interstellar space? Yeah right, so yeah,
(02:49):
and we've talked about it before, where the likelihood of
life is probably pretty high out in space. There's just
too many variables, you know. But those weird things, you know,
we never really have a straight answer because we just
don't know what it is. But listeners, today, I'm going
to expose the theory of something that we see every
(03:12):
night looking up and maybe it's looking back at us.
I'm just kidding by the man in the moon. Yeah yeah,
the man in the moon. But let's let's get it. Yeah,
let's let's get into the hollow moon theory, okay, or
as it's also been coined, the spaceship Moon. Now these
really I've never heard that. I've never heard of it either,
(03:35):
And see, listeners, I was going to do a double
feature for you today, but when I started talking about
the spaceship Moon, I was like, ah shit, I cannot
do a double feature like there's too much stuff, too
much truth to get out to you people. Okay, but
these are pseudoscientific hypotheses that propose that the Earth's moon
is either holy hollow, that's I love that phrase right there, hollow,
(03:59):
or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. So there's no
scientific evidence, you know, exists to support this idea. But
you know, they're controlling the information, Sarah, So of course
they're not going to tell us what it is, you know,
because we never get a have.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
They ever have they ever drilled? They don't even know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
They don't even know that, you know. And the thing
with this is there have been there have been like
seismic observation data collected when we used to when we
were doing orbits of the moons with the Apollo missions
and the landings of the moons with the same missions.
Most of those indicated that it was solid with like
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a slightly thinner crust and extensive mantle in a dense core.
So it's similar to Earth, but it's not nearly as dense.
So I think that's where a lot of this hollow
Earth or hollow moon stuff kind of comes from. Is
there some sicular phrases that we'll get into that. People
have said in the past that just people jump on
(05:05):
just because. Oh well, if that's what you said, that's
what it means, you know that whole thing. Yeah, but
you know why. The hollow Moon hypothesis usually proposes the
hollow space as a result of natural processes. The related
spaceship moon holds that the moon is an artifact created
by an alien civilization. This belief usually coincides with UFOs
(05:30):
or the Ancient Aliens or the ancient astronaut theory. So,
if you guys are fans of they are you know,
they've been watching us from the beginning. If you guys
are a fan of you know, the History Channel, I'm
sure you've got people listeners. You've seen Ancient Aliens with
Georgio Suclos with his crazy hair, and you've definitely seen
the meme of the Aliens. You know, he's great alien.
(05:54):
He is so great dude. And see, one thing I
will tell say about him is he is so unabashably
unafraid to say what he thinks. I'm here for it now.
Some of his stuff it's a little out there. Do
I believe in a lot of what he says? Not
really but he one percent is all in and I
gotta respect them. So, but this idea of this spaceship
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moon or this hollow moon, there's a I don't want
to get into, like the super super past, because you're
going off of cultures and whatnot that really we're more
storytellers and passing these down before written language, you know
what I mean. And so there's there's there's some things
(06:41):
where there's like ancient cultures talking about a time before
the moon, like but does that was that really what
they were saying or you know what I mean, It's
it's hard to kind of yeah, pin that down right.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, there's a lot of different origin stories that are
not based in reality.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's like the typical like you know,
the Earth is on the back of a turtle, you know,
going through the cosmos. So and we know for sure
that we are not on the back of a turtle
swimming through the cosmos. So, but the mainstream idea of
this dates probably in like the seventies. There were two
Soviet authors that published a short piece in the popular press.
(07:25):
This press is called Sputnik. It's like the reader's digest
for the Soviet Union. Back in the day, and we
know no men's information came out from the Soviet Union
during that time, or even America for that matter. You know,
that was the age of disinformation. You know, we think
we live in a crazy world, now do. They were
(07:46):
lying about shit left and right just to kind of
one up each other.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So that's true. They got to be the best, right
even at lying to their.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Even at lying to their own people. But so this
was published. It was a I believe the article was
published something like the spaceship moon theory, Like I think
that's kind of where it started coming from, and then
it kind of like diverged off into like the hollow Moon,
and those two are kind of like intermingled. I've seen
(08:15):
a lot of people kind of say the same thing
about both, So I'm not going to like do like
separate pieces for these, but essentially, like I kind of
said earlier, the piece was speculating that the moon was
a creator of alien intelligence and somehow placed to observe
and watch and do whatever these aliens be doing.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, it was just like dropped and.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, apparently it's just like up here, you go, We're
gonna hang out here for eons. But this theory has
been endorsed by conspiracy theorists like Jim Mars and David Ike. Okay,
David Ike is one of those weird ones because he
used to be like a I believe he was a
football player, and I think when I say football, I
don't mean the American football and soccer instead of being
(09:02):
like he. I think he was a sportscaster for a while.
But I can't remember the entire story. But apparently he
slipped and hit his head and reptilians came and talked
to him.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, yeah, yeah, we shall talk about him.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
We need to do a whole episode on David Ike.
From what I saw off of, this is very very interesting.
But then you know, with this sort of stuff they
they kind of it kind of made its way into
pop culture too, So it's been in science fiction movies,
like earliest being HG. Wells and in the novel The
First Men on the Moon. You know that that was
(09:33):
part of So even before they started talking about this
like spaceship theory, people were already thinking that the moon
could possibly be hollow, with little evidence to support that.
It was just more of a thought that they had, right,
And then you know, other works such as the Hollow
Earth and Nils Kim's Underground Travels. I've never heard of
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that one. That is a novel from this seen that's
a novel from the seventeen hundred. So that's makes sense.
Why I'm happy I added that in my notes because
I was like, where the hell did that come from?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Right? If anyone knows about it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, give us a shout on on on Nell's Kim's
Underground Travels. But in all seriousness, the hollow Earth the
hollow Moon, you know, they're kind of coincide with each other.
They are universally considered to be fringe or conspiracy theories
to the sheeple. Okay, like I said, that's right, But
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let's talk about like actual hard facts about the moon.
Well for us, you know, uninitiated heart facts, people that
believe that the Earth is or the Moon is hollow.
Then you know these are not hard facts. This is
just all lie. We kind of talked about the density
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of the difference between like the Earth and the Moon,
and I think this is like where a lot of
this miss you know, misplaced thought comes from. Right. The
moon It's density is let's see three or three point
three grams per centimeter whereas Earth is five point five
grams percentimeter. I'm not gonna pretend like I know what
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that means, but what I can see from just those
numbers is that the Earth is more dense. Okay, mainstream science.
The reason why they say that this is the case
is due to the Earth's upper mantle in the crust
are less dense than its heavier core. So it's almost
like from what I'm reading for here, you know, the
Moon has this rocky outer core, but then it's kind
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of malleable throughout the rest of it. It's not as solid,
you know what I mean. Now, when we say not
as solid, we're still talking about rock. We're still talking
about some like I believe there is cooled magma that
is still malleable to a certain extent. We're not talking
about silly putty that you can pick up and just
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play with. We're talking about a solid material. Like if
you just saw it, you would you would think it's
a solid piece of rock. But in comparison to the Earth,
it's not as dense. So Yeah, there was a phrase
that happened during the Apollo missions. The moon rang like
a bell. This is rare. Yeah, I was about to
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say that this is what people freaking hold on to. Okay,
So between nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy seven, seismometers
were installed on the Moon by the Apollo Missions to
record moonquakes. I don't know why the word moonquakes terrifies
the shit out of me, but that is like that
sounds so scary.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So earthquake, but moon, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I don't know. It just doesn't seem like it should
be a thing. But when the Moon was described as
ringing like a bell during some of those quakes, especially
the shallow ones, this phrase was brought to attention and
a nineteen seventies article popular and popular. So when we've
talked about like the density if it's not as dense
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these moonquakes, like like we're talking when I was listening
to a podcast earlier today, you know, they registered on
the Richter scale anywhere from like four to five on
the Richter scale, so enough if we were here on
Earth to like you would feel it right, and it
would move some stuff, not enough to have like structural
damage to like hardstanding buildings, but you would definitely feel it.
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The problem is these moonquakes last for hours. They just
keep going back and forth through the medium until there's
not enough of that power to you know, move anymore.
It's slowed down by the actual density of the moon.
But like I said earlier, since it's so much less dense,
they just keep kind of going back and forth. Where
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has here on Earth? You know, you might have an
earthquake lasts for a couple of minutes, you know, compared
to those couple hours that you would get. So when
when I think they when they said ring like a
ring like a bell, that's what we're referring to, Like
if you hit a bell, you were using an analogy. People.
We're not saying that it is physically ring like a bell.
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It's an analogy to talk about the reverberations going through
the material that keeps cycling through like a bell. That
is what we're referring to. But debunked well, probably not.
But like I said, listeners, I don't really know. I'm
not going to sit here and claim I'm a scientist
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or know how to you know, do hardly any of
this stuff. I'm just going off of what I'm reading,
probably from the wrong things because I'm just a sham.
I have a question, I have an answer.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Maybe, yeah, maybe, like what causes the moonquake since is
that like the crust is under like how our earthquakes are.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, so there are the Moon is relatively for its size,
it's cool down quite a lot since the formation of it.
We'll kind of talk about how the mainstream you know,
science thinks that the Moon was formed, but it still
has like a malleable magma ish sort of material between
the crust and the core that still shifts, so similar
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processes that we would have here on Earth with you know,
our plate tetonics are magma that flows it underneath the crust.
It's just not as active as you would think, but
since it's less dense and not as big, they last
for a lot longer.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Hmm. Okay, so that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah. So one of the ways that NASA, you know,
supposedly got these seismic readings was they deliberately crashed Apollo
twelves ascent stage and from the Liner module into the
surface to try to get like data off of that. Now, see,
this is where it gets kind of funny because you
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hear people that talk about this and they the same
people that say the moon landing was fake. Are the
same people that say the moon's hollow and they use
these freaking references. We can't have our cake and eat
it too, okay, right, yeah, I'm just saying, well.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
They didn't land, they just crashed into it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Fair, fair, But how how then did they have seismic
monitors on the ground if like they Yeah, exactly, Well
that's what I'm saying. I'm here. I'm here for a
good conspiracy theory, but I'm not here for some bs
where you say, oh, yeah, well they did this and
this one during the Apollo missions. But then you know,
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also say that the moonlighting is fake. Whatever. Maybe people
that believe in the hollow moon think the moon landing
was real. I don't know. I'm just going off of,
you know, my own bias here towards people that are idiots.
So all right, let's talk about this. I'm going to
do my best to say this name I think I can.
(16:57):
It's it's the gentleman that posted the Spaceship Moon article,
Vassin shier A Bakhav Shira Bakhov share A Bakhoff. We're
going to go with that. That that's pretty okay. So,
like I said, this was published in Sputnik, which is
kind of like the Soviet Union's reader digest at the time,
the gentleman Alexander Vasen svak. No, it's two people. I'm sorry, Yeah,
(17:21):
I misread that. Michael Vassen and Alexander Shira Bakhoff. Yep,
we're going to go there. They were both of the
Soviet Academy of Sciences when they advanced the hypothesis that
the moon was a spacecraft created by onion beans. The
title of the article, which I believe is still out
and about and loosely translated from you know, Russian to English,
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is the moon the creation of alien intelligence? Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What a question?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I know. So. The authors referenced early speculation by
a certain astrophysicists too suggested that the Martian moon Phobos
was an artificial satellite. I don't know. I couldn't find
like any like information as to why that person thought that,
because that has been definitely shown not to be the case.
Like calleing Phobos like a moon. It's so small, you know,
(18:17):
it might as well Like, yes, technically, I guess by
definition it is a moon, but it's not. It's not anything.
It's just a looks like an asteroids. It's what it
looks like. But so they kind of they kind of
bought into that like ancient astronaut, ancient alien thing when
they were writing, you know, this whole thing is that
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it just didn't I don't know, it's almost like we
were looking for answers. They were trying to deliberately like
undermine what the United States was doing with their space program.
That's what it really seems like, more than anything, which
I think was probably like the reason for the article
was to kind of get like because man, like the
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disinformation between like the Soviet Union and United States during
that time was huge talking about you know, you had
a at that time, at least on paper, a mostly
Christian society in the West and a very atheist society
in you know, Russia and the Soviet Union. And then
when they're talking about this, they're equating a lot of
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stuff in space and what not to not anything like
heavenly or divine, but just extraterrestrial intelligence, you know what
I mean. Like, so there was a lot of this,
Like I feel like this might have not been as
serious as some people take it. I think it was
more of a disinformation thing to try to convince people
(19:40):
to go away from theatism to more atheism and kind
of get their way into that sort of mindset of
thinking more like the Soviet Union than how we were
in that time. That's just my own opinion. So we're
going to talk about some reasons why they're people think
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that the moon is manufactured or placed here by another intelligence.
One of the things is the perfect solar eclipses that
we have. It fits perfectly over the Sun. Now here's
the thing with that, people that may not know the
moon is every Yeah, I mean, it is moving away
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from us. So there will be a point in time
where the Sun does not or the moon does not
perfectly eclipse the Sun. It'll be quite a ways down
the road. You know, we're talking hundreds of thousands, if
not millions of years, but eventually it will be so
far out where it will not cover up the Sun perfectly.
(20:43):
Just because something happens and it looks like it was
designed doesn't mean it was designed. It could just be
when we That's the thing. I try to look out
and when I see things out in the universe, like
you see things that are so incredible, you know, you
see all these stars, all these galaxies, all this stuff,
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and it's so big. You have an infinite possibility of
how something can be formed, So you're going to see
an infinite number of ways it could be formed. I
personally think the way that the Moon was created. We
had thea supposedly a planetoid hit us in our early formation.
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It broke off a substantial amount of material. That material
coalesced into the Moon that we have today. That's why
when you go up to the Moon and we took samples,
we were like, holy shit, this is stuff from Earth.
You know. It's one of those things where I don't
I don't like when things are like, oh well, it's
just so perfect. It does like right, Nature has a
(21:50):
way again, right, It's it goes back to like the
hubrius of I think our species that oh, this planet
was made perfect for just us. It's like, well, no,
our planet was made perfect for everything that currently lives
here and previously lived here. I mean what it's what
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nature does. It's a survival of the fittest or whatever
you want to call it. It's like you're going to
adapt to your current environment and that's what you're going
to have. As far as the Moon being perfectly aligned
with the Sun for a solar eclipse, I think it's
just a huge coincidence. That's all I seriously think it is.
I don't think it's anything crazy like that. But I
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also think it's super rad that we get to live
and see full solar eclipses and completely block out the
Sun for that period of time, and it's amazing. It
makes me understand why ancient cultures were like, God's mad
at us. We can't be doing this stuff anymore, Grab
all the kids and kill them because we got to
appease God. Now, you know, I totally get it, because
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if you saw that back in the day, holy shit,
you'd be like, well, we're done. Yeah, yeah, the world's
ending literally for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So it's just one of those things where I'm not
a huge fan of when people say that it's like
so perfect for us, and this is why it's doing
this and this. It's like, yeah, maybe, but it could
just be that that's the size of the chunk that was,
you know, hit from us and coal West. That's just
what it happened to be. You know, if we didn't
(23:30):
have a in the early formation of the solar system,
if we didn't have something that hit us, we'd be
in a we'd be on a very different planet right now,
we might not even exist, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, so it'd be some other creature.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it'd be it'd be some other weird looking thing
talking about the same thing about how you know, we
don't have a moon and it's really weird that we
don't have a moon.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So right, yeah, yeah, the aliens took it away.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
They took it away from us.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, that's what the alternate one.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So we've talked a lot about like kind of being
in the realm of reality, and we haven't really talked
a whole lot about, you know, what this hollow moon
actually could possibly be. So let's get into this. So
this is from that article that I was talking about
was the moon or is the moon a creation of
(24:25):
alien intelligence? Question mark? So the hypothesis relies heavily on
that large craters, generally assumed to be formed by meteor
impacts to all the sheeple out there, are generally too
shallow and too flat or to have like the concact
vex bottoms, you know what I mean. Small craters would
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have depth proportion of their diameter, but large craters are
not any deeper. So it's like it's kind of like
we're you're looking at like, I guess an average depth
of all these asteroid and celestial impacts and whatnot. It
is hypothesized that for small meteors making a cup shaped
depression in the rocky surface of the Moon while the
(25:08):
meteor's drilling through like I don't know, five miles, you know,
if they were to, you know, really hit hard, they
should have hit like an underneath hole apparently. But the
thing is about it, it's like they're saying that, Okay,
everything is too uniform on the Moon. Everything looks the same.
It had to have been manufactured. Yeah, I don't know.
(25:30):
It doesn't it that that whole part of it doesn't
really doesn't really mean anything. There is a really good picture.
I'm going to share my screen real quick of a
possible what the moon actually looks like, so we can
give me your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Conserra, Oh, who made this looks a little like Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't I don't know. Okay, we're just I'm just
going off of what I got for you. Okay, So
for listeners, right now, we're looking at a picture of
the Moon and it has a cutout and you're looking
I don't know, like relatively speaking, a pretty thin upper
layer of rock that is surrounded by a metal like crust,
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probably a couple miles thick right here, you know what
I mean. But then inside we have this awesome structure,
a core right here that's orange that looks like it's
powering everything. These offshoots that are coming off from supposedly
I don't know, research areas, living facilities, eating facility, like,
I mean, who knows what could be in there. But yeah,
(26:46):
that is a proposed you know picture.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, I think they could use they could use the
space a little bit better if.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
They're doing that well, Sarah, they are advanced aliens that
most likely reptilians, and that is the shape that works
the best for them. Okay, the reptilians, I got.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
They're in the earth.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
They both see once again, Sarah, don't ask questions. This
is just what that is. The alien creatures that are
supposedly up there are reptilians and supposedly in the earth too.
I feel like it's a it's an honest scapegoat.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah. They just like being in the center of everything.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah. Yeah, they're just a tention horse, you know. They
just like being you know, part of everything and it's
all about me, Me, me, I. So supposedly this structure
is mostly hollow. It has everything from research facilities to
monitoring facilities, to radio you know, transmitters, receivers, places to sleep,
places to eat, do like anything you could possibly need.
(27:52):
Like it. Imagine like the Star Wars Death Star. That's
what is literally orbiting are round Earth right now with
an advanced alien technology. Yeah, I mean that's that's literally
the best way to think about it, and to kind
of go back a little bit, I understand because the
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way that like the size of our moon is super odd.
It's way too big compared to the other moons that
we have for the other planets in our Solar system.
But that doesn't mean that it's created by aliens or
just plopped you know in the perfect place for tides
and you know, having like our lunar cycle that happens
(28:36):
like that. It whatever. But yeah, there are so many
different ideas of like the purpose of this. So one
purpose is for monitoring, monitoring what I'm not sure us
I would assume. But once again, that kind of gives
me like that huborus of mankind sort of thing, like
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why would an advanced alien civilization that can travel intergalactically
be like, hey, look at these stupid chimps with guns
and nukes, Like I think.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, that would be their entertainment.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Maybe I think it would like I'm not trying to
say that, like I think we would be somewhat interesting
to advance civilizations, but at the same time interesting enough
to put like an alien megastructure around our planet, right,
I don't think that's the most effective way to do it,
So it just seems kind of odd. And then there's
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another theory that I saw that the hollow Moon is
meant for to kind of like keep us in check
whatever species is up there. It's meant to like if
we get two out of hand, they got like an outpost.
Instead of going all the way from their home planet
wherever the hell that is, you know, they can just
you know, hop right on over because they're like, hey,
(29:56):
knock it off, humans, we don't need to be doing
anything like that anymore, you know, or whatever that may be.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But most I wonder what would trigger that. How extreme
does it need to be?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I don't know, but it's yeah, it's it's an odd
thing with with like there's no obvious concrete like this
is definitely what it is. And every time we do
have anything concrete of like, oh no, it's just a
ball of rock that is extremely malleable, like we talked
(30:27):
about earlier, it's like, nuh uh, look into it, bro,
It's like the flat Earth all over again. Just just
look into it. But yeah, supposedly, supposedly these reptilians are
the ones that are that are living and working out
of this place. And I don't know, I've never been
like a huge fan of like the whole reptilian thing
(30:48):
because it has like religious connotation and also like, I
don't know, it's it's really weird.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So, but there is some interesting testimony supposedly from mister
Neil Armstrong about when he walked on the moon.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Supposedly, so I feel hollow when you walk or what.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So when Neil Armstrong took his walk on the moon
and became the first man to do so, what followed
was an onspot onslaught of conspiracy theories of course, because
people thought it was fake. People thought it was filmed
in a Hollywood set. You know, it's not, you know.
For one, his restoric control on the Moon claimed to
have been shot in the studio like I said. One
(31:39):
of the conspiracy theories surrounding this moment is that remains
a mystery to the state. So during the Paul eleven
mission in nineteen sixty nine, after Armstrong landed on the Moon,
said claim to have lost communication for roughly two minutes.
They don't know why now. Reportably, there was a secret
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message to NASA from Armstrong on a secret channel and
he said, quote, these babies are huge, sir, enormous. Oh
my god, you wouldn't believe it. I'm telling you. There
are other spacecrafts out here lined up as far on
the far side of a crater's edge, and they're watching us, and.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's why they cut it off or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Supposedly. Supposedly now there babies.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I thought, you mayabi, I don't know. I was like,
why not just the chips or whatever?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, now I don't I don't know Neil Armstrong. I
know it was a different time and whatnot, But like,
these babies were huge, or these babies are huge. That's
such a weird thing to say, Like.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, doesn't sound like I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like if I okay, one, I'm trying to put myself
in the headspace of those astronauts that orbited the moon
and that landed on the moon and walked on the moon.
That had to be like the most terrifying, exciting, anxiety
ridden moment ever, right because you have no idea what's
(33:21):
gonna happen, zero idea. You're just open. Shit works. And
I feel like if you were the first person on
the moon, one, that is has to be an unbelievable feeling. Two,
if you step off and you're just like, holy shit,
there are spacecraft, there are aliens. Like you wouldn't say
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these babies are huge. You'd probably be like, holy shit, right,
like I need yeah, what, Yeah, I'm leaving like I
did that. That phrase in that quote always makes me
laugh because it just doesn't make sense to me. And granted,
(34:03):
once again, I know it's nineteen sixty nine. I know
the terminology and the phraseology of what you know, the
English language was different. These babies are huge, sir, Like,
that's what I'm expecting him saying, like, what are you talking?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I don't think so. I don't think that's what he'd say.
He'd say, holy shit, let me off of this.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, I gotta go. Oh god, I don't know. So
there's another there's another one from another astronaut, So Alan
Bean claims he saw something shiny on the moon described
it as shoe leather, quote unquote, So we're talking something
very very reflective. I don't know why shoe leather is
(34:42):
the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, shoe leather is reflective.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't know. But while you would expect space to
be black and devoid of light and places, there were
shiny things that he saw. Could it have been glass,
could have been reflection. There's not an explanation for this one. Okay.
So it's that's kind of one of those weird ones
where you know, light here on Earth like play tricks
(35:08):
on you. You know, the shadows will play tricks on you.
You're in a place that is completely alien and completely
foreign to anything that you've ever seen, and you're gonna
like your senses are going to be on high alert
and you're going to start to like see weird stuff
that happens, you know, And who's to say that, like,
you're not in that bubble of that protective you know,
(35:31):
what is it the that I'm probably going to say
this wrong because I'm not a scientist or I don't
I'm not a learned person. I'm a sheeple. The magnetic
field that covers the Earth. I don't know if that
stretches out to the Moon, you know what I mean,
I don't. I don't know that. So if it doesn't,
I don't think it does. I don't think it does either.
(35:51):
But if you're getting hit with all this extra stuff
that you're not used to seeing, there's a really crazy
thing that would happen. Astronauts even in the is would
talk about like they would see like flashes of light
like when they close their eyes, and what it is
is fucking particles going through your fucking head. Oh wow,
(36:12):
so radiation like no, like physical part like physical items
so small, hitting your fucking retina and just ripping through
it right right. So if you're out in like not
I mean, the moon wouldn't be like deep space, but
(36:33):
you're out in space away from the protective field of
the Earth. Yeah, I'm sure you're gonna get hit with
shit like that because it's all over the place. And yeah,
I mean that that's what I'm kind of thinking. It
could have been that like shiny whatever, like oh he
saw a flash of light, Well it might have been
a particle, you know, hitting you in your retina and
fucking you up a little bit. But yeah, wow, Yeah.
(36:57):
The thing is with with this whole moon thing, I
never have like any like concrete evidence besides a bunch
of like bs conjecture from people that don't think the
moon landing happened most of the time, you know what
I mean, Right, And the thing is, we as a
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species haven't If you do believe the moon landing happened,
we haven't explored enough of it to really know anything
about it. I mean, there have been people that have
talked about, you know, colonizing the Moon. I think that's
eventually what's going to happen. And who knows. We get
up there and there are aliens up there and they
are watching us, and they're like, hey, you gotta go.
(37:39):
This is our rock beat it, you know what I mean.
But they have talked about if they do have established
settlements there, the utilizing craters and these like lava tubes
that were created when you know the surface was still
really molten is usually the best thing to do because
a lot of that stuff that I was talking about,
those high speed parts of the radiation, stuff like that,
(38:01):
it won't be able to hit you if you're under
that ground, you know what I mean. So I get
the reasoning for why people would think it would be hollow.
I'm personally not buying that it's hollow, but that's kind
of where we're at as far as the hollow Moon thing.
There is one more astronaut account. This wasn't on the Moon, though,
(38:22):
but I still thought it was kind of interesting. And
this is about Scott Kelly. He spent a lot of
time on the International Space Station. I believe he's one
of the people that spent the longest up there. I
didn't see out, but he thinks. I think it was
like over a year he was up there, but he
went to he became one of the Yeah, he had
the most hours out of any astronaut so far, so
(38:44):
I don't know why they said hours, but he's definitely
been up there the longest. But that's not the only
thing that makes a story stand out. Kelly has said
things that suggest he had a big brush quote unquote
with aliens, a big brush. While he's not set in
I don't know this is. This is the other thing
where it's kind of it's it's kind of weird. He
(39:08):
has not said so himself. In many words, he jokes
and seems like it's more like, ah ha, yeah, this
is what happened, you know what I mean? Uh, But
he mentioned in an interview that he spoke about aliens
having it easier in space than we do.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, yeah, what is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't know, but I kind of thought it was
funny because this is that's one of those things where
you have no substance, you have know nothing, you have
absolutely nothing to go off of. You're going off of
it rang like a bell. That means it's hollow. That's
what that fucking quote reads to me. And that is
what every time I see these crazy conspiracies. Like I've
(39:49):
said before, I am down. I am so down for
a crazy conspiracy. I'm not down for dumb stuff like
the moon is hollow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
What about it's a hologram?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
So I kind of was thinking about getting into the
like the holographic side of things, and then like that
it's just you know, an illusion to us. The only
reason why I would say that, you know, if we're
looking up and we see that if we were thinking
it was a hologram, it wouldn't block out the sun
when we do we have solar eclipses, you know what
(40:24):
I mean. Yeah, and they and I know most people
probably that are on the side of the hollow moon
or anything like that won't believe the statement I'm about
to say. But during the apollomissions, they put reflectors up there.
That way we could measure the distance and see where
how far and where it wanes and flows and distances
and stuff like that, along with other scientific, you know,
(40:47):
research material. So like you can literally shoot a laser
from a telescope and get an exact distance from Okay, cool,
it's at this distance now because of the reflectors up
on the moon. So that's cool. Yeah, I mean, but
that's the thing. It's like once once again, my my
(41:09):
question to all of these people is what's the point?
I need the why? I need I need the why.
And it's just like, well there they it was just
put there and they were just watching us. Why why? Why?
Why are we? Like, what's the point what's so important
about the human beings that we have. It's our own
(41:30):
spaceship moon of aliens watching us right now. Like that's
so stupid.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, there really is no point about it. Also,
like we do so much cool shit like why you
don't have to make it up?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean, I mean and and truth
be told, maybe maybe I am just being a sheep
right now and just going off of the information that
science and NASA has been lying to me about this
entire time, and I'm just buying into it hook line
and sinker, and I just haven't looked into it. Bro.
(42:06):
My thing is usually the easiest explanation is the right explanation,
the one that makes sense, the one that you're not like, huh,
I wonder about this part of this or whatever. It's
usually the one that makes the most sense, what makes
the most sense to me personally. When we were forming
it early in our Solar system, another planet that was
forming early hid into us, knocked off a bunch of material,
(42:30):
made us, you know, a huge moon that we shouldn't have,
And it's a lot of coincidence. That's really where I'm at,
you know what I mean. I don't think it's anything more.
I don't think it's anything less. I think it's awesome
that we have such a huge moon that we've gone
to and we've visited, and we have scientific research for
(42:52):
and I think that we're going to be living on it.
I mean, I wouldn't be shocked Sarah if we if
in yr in my lifetime that we have people that
are stationed up on the Moon, you know, instead of
an International Space station, Yeah, we have the the International
Moon Station. Fuck yeah, I'd go up there. Did I
(43:12):
go up there? In a heartbeat? I don't think I'd
go Why.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Well, I mean again, anything could go wrong. You have
no oxygen or anything. I mean, I'm not trusting other
people to get me up there and back. Like, am
I just going to live up there? You're just subject.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I mean, you're only like disaster every day, You're only
like four days away.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, but I'm not living in the colony.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
The colony, yeah, the moony is.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, I'm not interested in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
What what if a cult happens on the moon you
can't get away?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You think won't happen, you think it will one hundred
percent will happen. You will have a completely different society,
forming a whole different government, a whole different like thought process. Fuck,
you might even have a whole nother religion that comes
out of living on the Moon, and the same thing
(44:11):
as we start to like spread out as a species.
That is what is going to happen. It's instead of like, oh,
we don't like that country over there right now, we're
going to be sitting here on Earth like, oh those
Martians over there, they're just a bunch of pieces of
shit trying to take all of our you know whatever.
You know, that's how it's going to be, because human
beings are yeah, all of our oxygen. I work so
(44:32):
hard and all they do is take, take, take.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
But in all seriousness, I'm not buying the Hollow Moon.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
What do you think it's, Sarah, Yeah, I don't think so.
Now I will say I think it's just a quin.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah that the artists rendentation or the artists you know,
Hollow Moon andition rendition. Thank you, Sarah. Words are hard. See,
that's what we're here for, here to help each other out.
Mostly me, I did. I did like and appreciate that
because that is kind of cool. It kind of looks
like one of those ant colony things, you know what
I mean of where the they kind of dug out
(45:08):
everything and you know, have little tubes everyone everywhere.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
It looked like it was done in like paint.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Probably was like MS paint. Most likely I want a
better one.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I want like an architecture sketch.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Okay, well, let's let's see hang on before we end
this episode. I know this is great podcasting. We're gonna
find the most detailed hollow moon we can possibly find. Okay, okay,
so let's go to good old Google images. I know, listeners,
this is so fantastic. But this is more for Sarah
(45:44):
and I so selfishly that's what we're gonna do. Look
at it there. We don't have fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, probably this one that's like that. It's like a
hole through the whole the whole moon. It's like a
hole through it, like a bullish true.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Even better, it's the only one I see. Yeah, here's
a good one for you, Sarah. Here, we're sure I'm
sharing this one. Okay, you'll love this. This is a
This is a fantastic one.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I like that one better. Yeah. It's like they're the like, uh,
what was it the monkey toy? Yeah? They yep, they're
chained together. Yeah, but aliens.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, little green men hanging on the bars of the
hollow moons sucks right good?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, you know, and like I said, who knows, maybe
you know, fifty years from now I'll be uh, I'll
be calling you up and be like Sarah, I'm on
the moon right now at the Mooney Settlement and guess what,
there ain't ship up here. Sucks.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I definitely woun't want to be part of
the first group to go.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Oh no, no, no, I'm wanting at least a couple
of thousand go through first. Man. Yeah, I'm not I'm
not doing that. So yeah, definitely not being the first.
But listeners, this is kind of a silly one. Hope
you guys enjoyed the quote unquote hollow moon the theory,
and I would say more of It's definitely a hypothesis,
not a theory. But yeah, so that's going to do
(47:11):
it for today. Anywhere you guys see this, Anywhere you
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Speaker 1 (47:26):
And as always, remember, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
they're not watching. See you next time on the Paranoid Perspective,
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