July 28, 2025 • 46 mins
Is our universe just an elaborate illusion? In this episode, we dive into Simulation Theory—the provocative idea that our reality might be a sophisticated computer simulation. We explore the science, speculation, and unsettling implications. Could glitches in our world be signs of a digital framework? Are we the players—or just code? Join us as we navigate the strange crossroads of technology, consciousness, and existence itself.
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Speaker 3 (01:18):
Welcome back to The Paranoid Perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sarah. Have you ever seen neighbors bring in groceries?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No? Not really.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Have you ever had.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Weird bouts of deja vous where you know you've been
here before, but you never you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Know, have yep?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, Well to those, All of.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
These point to the stunning conclusion that more than likely
we live in a simulation. Someone is you have a
little diamond over your head and someone is controlling you,
Sarah like.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
This, Okay, that's a little far. Where's my cheek codes?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I know right where are mine at? I need those, man,
I need to get the cheat codes, you know, the
way played. I'm not asking for much here. I just,
you know, a little financial stability where I don't have
to worry about a whole lot would be amazing, you know,
just an average little thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, man, maybe we could do the cheat code from
the sim wasn't it like whether trash Can or something?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I I rarely played that game, so but yeah, funny.
One of my nieces plays that a lot, or not
want of mine, my niece in law, however you want
to call it, you know, Yeah, she plays that game
all the time. And we kind of were talking about
this last night and it was hilarious because that's just
what I'm picturing now. Just all of us riding around
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the world with little diamonds over the head.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, as long as they don't take out the ladder
in the pool, I.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Know, right, we're always gonna drown.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
But it's a question that's been proposed by you know, scientists, philosopher,
science fiction fans alike. You know, do we actually live
in a simulation? And depending on who you ask, the
answer isn't just maybe, it's most certainly so.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Wow, Yeah, it's It's.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
One of those weird things, man, where I was actually
talking to a few people about it, and it the
the differences between this and like religion are nothing, you
know what I mean, Like there was a creator that
made you into existence, and you know what I mean,
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And guides you on your right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, everything is predetermined because it's laid out in the code, man.
But at its core, simulation theory proposes this everything around you,
the people in your life, the planet, we walk on,
the sky, the stars, even this probably this very podcast
is all a sophisticated computer simulation, every single thing. It's
(03:54):
easy to think about it. With most of the theories
that are out there of like a super hyperistic realistic
video game right, But instead of using things like pixels
and polygons and other things to create these images, we
are being built upon by particles and atoms and laws
of physics. So it's kind of just like a super
(04:18):
advanced video game that are actually using real physical materials
to do it. So the reason why it feels so
real is because it's designed to feel real.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Duh, right, Yeah, we wouldn't know otherwise.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's like, in all honesty, I mean, what happens if
we are in a simulation we become self aware? Does
the does the person that created the simulation just like, oh,
that's like the matrix up, We're just starting this over again.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, unplug it?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yep, Yeah, I know, right, I wonder I mean not
that I guess you wouldn't know if it just stopped,
you know, I don't know. But the simulation theoriesuggest that
advanced civilizations, perhaps more advanced than we can even imagine,
have created this simulated universe, which kind of harping back
(05:08):
to what I said earlier. God right, right, I mean
that that's literally what they would be if that is
truly the case, right, So these are conscious beings just
like everybody that we interact with, or so we think,
but they live outside of this reality that we perceive.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So once again, God, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, but wouldn't it be like simulations within simulations then
or something like like we have you know, video games
that are the sims maybe or whatever, and then they
have their own sim like would they who's the master?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't think it's I don't think there's ever. I
don't think that answer makes sense or that question makes sense,
you know what I mean. That's like it's the same
thing we've talked about before of like if you're at
the north pole, which direction's north? It does like that
question doesn't have an answer. It doesn't mean anything because
how would you how would you determine that? I mean,
(06:08):
if the universe is even the age they say it
is of, like the thirteen point eight billion years old,
we probably wouldn't be the first simulation. Yeah, there would
probably be some like super advanced civilization that possibly survived
from very early on in the existence of the universe.
(06:28):
But then to think too, if we're looking at it
from the perspective of this is our universe, so they
wouldn't exist here with us either, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I don't. I don't know how you would be.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Now we're just begin to a universe in a box,
and then they're a universe in a box in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The Yeah yeah, yeah, just boxes, it is, Tessa, rats,
just testaacts upon testsa ras of just all this. So,
but to get away from some of the WU stuff,
this really just isn't science fiction.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So there was a philosopher named Nick Bostrom. He published
a now famous paper titled you are Living in a
Computer simulation. And I have seen that article before. I
don't think i've read it all the way through. I
know I've definitely read that before. But essentially he proposed,
you know, at least one of the following things are true.
(07:20):
Civilizations like ours never reached the level of technological advancement
required to run realistic simulations of their own.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They just don't. They just don't.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Advanced civilizations don't bother running simus. Oh my god, I
can't talk, Samuel. See here we go, this is it's
all fucking starting again. Help me out here, Sarah, what
is it? Simulations?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Boom? See just took me a minute to catch up.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Or we are most certainly living in a simulation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right now, thank you. So those are the three things.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Either we never get the technology to the point where
we can get there, if there are advanced technowledge civilizations,
they don't even worry about doing this shit. Or we
are most certainly not in the actual reality. We're in
something that is made up.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right, So there's a few I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Was he sorry? Was he saying those are all equally
likely in his opinion, or he's.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He proposed that at least one of the following must
be true. Okay, so I'm assuming based on that that, yes,
they are all equally likely, but it's not like something
that would be together, it would be one of the three.
So that was kind of a standpoint with that paper,
And I mean, there's a lot more to it, and listeners,
(08:43):
I would encourage you, if you're interested, to go check
out that paper. We can have it linked down below
in the show notes or that article that he wrote.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because that's that's just a very.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Brief general overview of everything that he had in there.
But if we start to think about it in future civilizations,
if they can create these realistic simulations, oh my god,
it's gonna be the worst fucking episode. Now I've gotten
to the rhythm now and now I can't fucking break it.
(09:14):
Sim elation, simulations, simulaysans. There you go, this is gonna
be the best short ever simulations. This is your character
they're fucking with They're fucking with me because they don't
want me to get out the information. See proven point
(09:34):
right now, listeners, here you go. They're like, hey, stop
this dude from talking. You know, just one specific word,
sim you lay sun.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's how I'll say it for the rest of the
time because now I gotta really think about it. But
if they can create these realistic simulations, and if they
decided to do it, it's very likely that there are
way more simulated realities than there are these base reality
that there would have to be, because if they can
start to do it, why wouldn't you just be like, oh, yeah,
(10:06):
now this is just a new hot video game. Hey,
every teenage kid with a whatever electronical device can download
this on that device and there you go. Now you're
just you know, you gotta stunt knows kid. That is
just you know, creating an entire universe, and maybe we
are one of those universes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, yeah, oh my god, it's like that. I've
heard like what if we're the Science Fair.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Project exactly, yeah, one hundred percent, we're just or we're
the we're the the fat guy eating Cheetohs in his
mom's face, you know what I mean, that's that's who
we are, you know, or something like that. Like it's
because I always think it's funny how much hubrious human
beings have about like us, you know, like, oh, we're
this great creation of whatever blah blah blah blah blah.
(10:52):
In reality, it's just some crazy like fourth dimensional being
that just got bored, you know that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Still is mom and just maybe oh this will be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. But yeah, so to kind of get a little
bit serious about this. So there are scientific cases for
the simulation theory. Now, there is quite a lot that
scientists have to say about this. One of the key
arguments for the simulation theory is based on computational limits
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within the universe itself, so for instance, the speed of light,
that nothing can fast travel faster than the speed of light.
And I know, like people that really buy into this
are probably like looking for something like that, but it
appears like it's a built in rule for the owners,
(11:46):
you know, like there's you're not there's nothing you can do,
there's no cheat code to to get away, you know
what I mean. Now, if we do have a cheat code,
I e. Like warping space to be able to travel,
and we are in a simulation, I mean, I wonder
what's going to happen with that, you know what I mean?
Because if we're not supposed to break that speed limit
(12:10):
and we do, then it won't load. Well that's what
I'm saying. Yeah, like space, it won't render fast enough
for you to observe it, you know what I mean.
So I thought that was kind of interesting. Another really
crazy one, and I don't like the way this is okay,
and listeners to Just to preface this, I am not
(12:32):
an expert in any of this stuff. I like to
read about stuff and watch videos about this stuff, but
I am no means an expert. So I'm about to
say some real stupid shit right now. So don't light
me up for not knowing things. I'm telling you right now.
I'm not knowing about this, but it freaks me out.
In quantum experience or experiments, particles in a state are
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always in a state of probability. They don't choose a
definite state until they're fucking observed or measured. That scares
the fucking shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, they're like waves and particles right until it's observed
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, until it we until we interact with it. Then
it's like, oh no, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, now this is the way I'm going.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That that is weird.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's so fucking crazy, you know, it's so crazy, and
I hate hate not knowing, like not having the capacity
to understand what that means. But it scares the shit
out of me. So, but some proponents of simulation theory
say this is exactly how a simulation would operate, kind
of what you heart back to Sarah. Systems only render
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when something is looking at it. You know, for instance,
when you're playing in a game, if you're playing something
like a crazy like super high visibility first person shooter game, like,
it's not going to render stuff off to your peripheral left, right,
or behind you because it just needs to focus on
what's in front of you. So everything else is not
going to be actually rendering until you turn to look
(14:08):
at it. I mean we do that now with most
video games.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, so yeah, well how many people do you think
everyone is real? Or are there inn PCs? Because like
everyone's looking at stuff all the time, Like it's got
to render everything that people are looking at.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
See, that's where it gets weird, right, because I think
if it is a simulation, you are like everyone close
to you isn't an NPC, but everyone else is. But
everyone has their own version of that at the same time,
you know what I mean. So to ninety nine point
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nine percent of the world, I'm just an MPC because right,
you know what I mean, I know who I know.
But and I was kind of told I was poking
fun with a friend of mine last night talking about this,
and I was like, well, that's why you can say
the most off the wall shit to people and they're
not going to do anything because they don't know what
they like. Like if you if you were to go
to like a convenience store and buy a soda or
(15:08):
whatever you're gonna get, you know what I mean, And
you just said the most wild shit to them, They're
probably just going to be like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, well is that because you're crazy or is.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That because they're an NPC or because they don't have
the loaded response that's saying, you're told, right, thank you?
Would you like a bag? Would you like a receipt?
Those are their COVID responses for you. Now, I'm just
poking fun and all. Honestly, they probably are just like,
holy shit, we get this dude out of my fucking
store and I want to see you know what I mean.
(15:39):
But it does make for an interesting thing because how
how would we determine because it would be very personal
it like, yes, for me, this is what it is,
but for everybody else, right, I mean I have friends,
I have families, I have kids, I have you know,
significant others.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like they can't be in PC's because I.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Interact with them on a pretty regular basis.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, you would think they're not in PCs, although maybe
you can befriended in PC that's what acquaintances are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
But if we're in such like a super high powerful simulation,
maybe when you befriend the NPC, it like changes the code.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, it like becomes you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, right, man, who knows? But we kind of already
talked about it. But it's it's like games do that
to preserve like processing power as far as rendering not
what you're looking at or and only doing that. So
if it was a simulation, that's exactly how we behave.
Are you familiar with the plank length? It's like the
smallest measurable length of space.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, So it's all.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Over the universe and it has a minimum resolution like
a pixel on a screen. That's how people would like
to describe.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
What So once again, it's like one of those it's
like speed of light. It's one of those things that
is literally everywhere and you can't go smaller. Right, So
I didn't like reading that part either. This whole, this
whole like actual scientific part like freaks me the fuck
out because.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's like it makes it seem more real, like.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I know, like listening to people talk about it and
like saying funny stuff about it, like yeah, it's fun
to too. But dude, like when I kind of started
deep diving into this part of it, I was like, dude,
I don't don't.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Don't like this at all.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So physicists have even suggested that we could find clues
to our simulation by looking for underlying patterns of code
hidden in the fabric of reality itself. There is a
theoretical physicist, James Gates, who claim to have found something
strange in the equations of string theory mathematical structures resembling
error correcting codes.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What wait, how do you find it in an equation?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Like what, Sarah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't do you remember? You remember how I say
I don't be knowing things. Yeah, I don't be knowing
what that means.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But but I just really zoomed in the equation.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I've tried.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've listened to so many podcasts, watched so many videos,
listen to experts in that field of like quantum theory,
string theory, like these super fringe, really revolutionary, like scientific
scientific endeavors, and Dude, within about two minutes of them speaking,
I'm just like, yeah, it's it's I don't know what
(18:29):
you I don't know what that means. Like, I can't
comprehend what that means. So I'm gonna kind of go
out on a limb and say, if he's a theoretical physicist,
he's physicist, he's probably significantly more smarter than ninety percent
of the people I know, and I'm gonna trust him
with what he's got to say, yeah, that's just me.
(18:50):
But to hear something like that, like we have stuff
in games that will like correct certain things and if
we do have an error, it will reload and do
stuff like that. And to be able to find supposable
mathematical structures resembling.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
That, Yeah, sounds like we are in a simulation.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like I said, at first, I thought, like, I know
there's scientific backing for this. I know people have talked
about this. I know I've heard podcasts about this, but
I have never really dug, like super deep into the
actual like what people are saying. And so I get
like and being able to like mentally digest it, yeah,
you know, an easier way, and hearing these like fifteen
(19:39):
syllable words and then you know, I yeah, but doing
this little bit over the past week, it was like, dude,
this is not fun. But to kind of get out
of like the more scientific stuff. I mean, it's been
a big thing in.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Pop culture forever.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
One of the biggest ones I'm sure a lot of
people have seen or if at least heard about, is
the matrix, you know, and one of the famous I
think it was something that's the effect of Like one
of the first big wines in the movie was what
if everything you know is an illusion?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Or something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I can't remember exactly what the quote was, but you know,
I don't think we're being like battery powered for some
crazy AI that we created, you know, thousands of years ago.
But at the same time, it that movie in particular,
like it shows a lot of stuff like deja vu.
(20:37):
It shows a lot of stuff that like you can
if you become aware of the simulation, you can start
to crack the simulation and start to do things outside
of you know what I mean. So, yeah, that was
a cool way to kind of approach that, especially like
that was in like the late nineties, if I remember correctly,
So real, Real ahead of its time movie, second third one,
(21:00):
not a fan first one.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, persons very good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, maybe they knew they knew things. Well, maybe
it was the person that created the simulation or the
thing that created the simulation, just slipping a little bit
to be like, hey think about this now, right. Well,
but philosophers even as far back as the sixteen hundreds
question whether we could trust our senses at all and
(21:26):
wondered if we might all be dreaming or deceived by
an evil demon creating a false reality. So wow, I
mean it's been around for quite a while, and I mean,
I know, like philosophy has kind of like ebbed and
flow out of like the cultural zeitgeist throughout you know,
the centuries, because sometimes it's super important to have like
(21:47):
these real deep thinkers and philosophers. And then I can
imagine with that little quote at the end of it,
I talked about in sixteen hundreds of being controlled by
an evil demon creating a false reality. Right, it gets
a little you know, it ebbs and flows for sure
throughout the years.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But anything's possible, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
But I mean you can even look in like current
we have stuff like Westworld, Black Mirror m hm. And
we touched on this at the beginning, the sims like
that is one of probably one of the most popular
video games from that era, and it's still being played today.
So I don't know, it's one of those like I've
(22:28):
I've always kind of thought about it, like why does
it freak us out so much? And I think it's
literally what I said at the beginning is it's not
what it seems. What we're seeing is not what it seems,
you know, And I think everybody has had that sort
of feeling before that what they're seeing in front of
(22:48):
them is is not really real.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So right, Well, you do create your own reality too,
so true. Yeah, then things can feel unreal or.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Whatever, and your perception is your reality, Like yes, it
doesn't matter whether it's your social ideas, whether it's your
political ideology, like whatever, whatever you're feeding into yourself, and
that in perceiving, that is what your reality is, right,
And I think that's that's a product of just evolution
(23:21):
of human beings. And I'm not saying that from a
simulation theory perspective. I'm just saying I think that's how
we operate, that whatever we put in is what we're
going to perceive outward, right sort of idea.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, I mean you can have like a hundred people
see the same event and everyone's gonna tell it differently.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's like the world's biggest game of fucking telephone.
It's not even funny. So but here's where it gets
really weird. There are glitches in this reality. We kind
of touched on.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
This already, Glitches in the matrix.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That's what I'm saying I love that sub breddit.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh dude, right, So that's what I'm saying. So you've
got stories of personal glitches in the simulations, you know,
and I would highly recommend. I've been on that subreddit
before too, and it's awesome. Yeah, but you know, something
as simple as deja vous. Yeah, I've had I still
(24:17):
have bouts of deja vu, like all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I don't dream.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, I don't have deja vous as much anymore. I
used to have it a lot more.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, maybe maybe the simulation is feeding it to you
when you sleep, and it's like I'm the one that's
getting it while I'm awake, you know, or conscious or
whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, hell, I mean, do you think deja vou? Did
we talk about this before where it's like that was
your last checkpoint or something like you died?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
No, but I one would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, maybe that is like whoever's playing your sim took
a fucking ladder out of the pool, right, and your
last checkpoint was wherever you were at. You know, now
you got to start back over again, hopefully. Since I've
made it this far, I don't like respond back to
like a twelve year old or something like that, and
you know, just got to do this shit all over again.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Hey, then you can make really good investments.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, but would you even remember.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't know, yeah, would you you know what I mean? Not?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Would you just because you would just remember up to
that point where you got to you know what I mean.
But the person if you're being like, if you were
literally being played, the person that is playing you would
remember everything because they saw it as well to the
point where you died.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So yeah, maybe they learned some things.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You know, And you call it whatever you want, the
fat guy in the with the Cheeto dust on his shirt,
or your guardian angel, whatever you want to call it,
being a gig.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I've had this happen quite a lot moments when time
seems to slow down or jumps ahead. I have had
so many moments of like lost time or like no shit,
seeing things happen in slow motion.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Really just normal, like every day.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, No, it's been like extreme, yeah circumstances. But like
in those extreme circumstances, like and you could chalk it
up to adrenaline, you could chalk it up to you
know whatever, fear is going through your mind at that
point where you've got to be hyper focused on like
the task at hand. Sure I can buy that, but
nonetheless it has happened so many times, especially with the
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times slowing down, and like it literally is just like
slow motion.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Wow, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But then the jumping ahead that happens quite a lot,
like where I will lose track of time and it's
not just like fifteen twenty minutes, it's like hours.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like still that's happening. Not when you're younger, Oh wow,
is it? It's not just you get in a flow state.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It might lose it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But it only happens when I'm by myself though, That's what.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's what click skips.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It only happens when I'm
by myself. It doesn't happen when other people are around.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You know. It does feel like when I have a
day alone and I'm like working on stuff and it's
like the whole day's gone and I just like I
only got like two things done.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That is exactly dude.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Like I said, we talked a little bit off air.
The current situation I got Right now, I'm gonna have
a little bit of time to myself. I'm so fucking
terrified that it's just gonna fly by and I'm not
gonna get anything done.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I feel like that does happen? Well, I'm so fast, And.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Once again, it's just like it's not like I'm just
vegging out and playing video games. I'm working on stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And then it's like, oh, where are we at? No?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Oh shit, it's you know, two o'clock in the morning.
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right? You know? Oh that is weird.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
The last one was kind of interesting, vanishing objects and
reappearing impossible places, you know, And I've had a handful
of times where that had happened. Craziest thing about it,
when I was putting this together, that happened to me
last night. Really it happened to me last night.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I was at work and I had to run out
to my car to get a few things, and I
couldn't find my keys. I don't ever put my keys
anywhere besides my right pocket, in my pants or in
the bag I bring to work. Yeah, none of those places.
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It happened to be inside of a trailer. Listeners, I
work at a warehouse. Yeah, for my day job. It
happened to be inside of a trailer. Now you can
chalk it up because I did go into that trailer
at last night.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I did do that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So just like fell out, well, your pocket, I don't
think so though.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's fucking like I was putting this together today and
when I was doing my notes for this episode, I
was like, hold the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I don't like this either. What are we doing here?
Because that literally just happened.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I didn't have my I had all my notes
like kind of like loosely together, but I hadn't put
like anything together yet until to day and this happened
last night.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like it's just giving you a story to tell for.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
This, That's what I'm saying. It's just like, oh, hey,
got a good one.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Because aren't your keys kind of big? Like how would
they fall out with you? You noticing?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And I don't like I don't hang them out of
my pocket, but they're completely in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right and guys, pockets are like a mile logue. Yeah,
they should have fallen out.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
My my wrist.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sorry, I hit the microphone listeners my wrist like down
to like here goes into my pocket.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's yeah, so that's weird, dude.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
When I I was putting these together today and I
was kind of organizing what I was going to talk about,
I was actually really good. You'd be happy, Sarah, I
have organized this shit out of this today. Maybe it's
part of the simulation too. Yeah, but no, when I
got to this point of the episode, I was like,
are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Awesome?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And to be fair, I've had stuff like that happen
quite a lot where I cannot find anything, and the
keys are a good example, Like I would I would
have heard them drop, you know what I mean. You're
in a confined metal box, you would have heard them drop.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, that's weird. Maybe it's a goblin, Yeah, isn't that
what some people say? Or leprekuns or something.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Or well, I mean chocolate.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You could chalk it up to any like mythical creature,
because I mean, if we are in a simulation, these
things that we perceive as monsters, demons, fairies, bigfoot whatever,
like if they are able to come in and out like, yeah,
we wouldn't be able to like fully comprehend what the awer.
So but yeah, so was this just an error? Was
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I just following my keys just fell out of my pocket?
Or was this simulation that like had a glitch when
I was in that trailer and that's where they was
a glit?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I feel like it was.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Now, granted, granted, I'm buying into this pretty hardcore. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna lie to anybody. Most of
the stuff I'm kind of like, oh, it seems like bullshit.
I don't know why this doesn't seem like fucking bullshit.
It speaks to you, it speaks to me, my my
cheeto eating you know, player, is you know, really making
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me go all in on this?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I suppose, Yeah, I believe it. I don't know now
I believe it for some of the science stuff too,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, well, people see here's where it gets kind of
creepy though. People report seeing like duplicate strangers, like doppelgangers
for other people.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I've seen where it's like people on a bus and
they all look the same in the same seat or whatever.
I've seen pictures of those two.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, or yeah, like you see two people that look
or act identical appearing in the same place at the
same time, Like I don't know, and see this is
another one that kind of freaks me out because I've
seen this happen before to people, and I chalked it
up to being an overactive kid and having imaginations. People
describe bizarre experiences where literally reality or objects themselves will
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seem to flicker or freeze, like a frozen video game,
like trying to like like catch up.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, you've seen that too, yep, as a kid or
more recently, no.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
More as a kid, And like I said, you can
chalk that up to being you know, young kid, over
imagination or whatever. But no, I haven't seen that any
time in the recent recent years. But you know, the
skeptics will say the same stuff where it's a coincidence,
you know, you're playing like a psychological trick on yourself,
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or you're having like memory errors. Now, I'll be the
first one to tell you, like, the human memory is
not like a good way to gauge it, because, like
you said, you could have fifteen people see the same thing.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
And they're going to have fifteen different stories on what happened.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, right, you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Know, so it's completely understandable, you know why people would
be skeptical, and it could be signs that the simulation
isn't quite perfect, you know what I mean? So well,
the burning question that it was funny because I had
a friend of mine ask me this, and I threw
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this in here. Why are we being simulated? Why would
anyone want to run simulations of our lives? I look
into this era and there are a shit ton of
theories as to why there would be simulations of whatever earth. Yeah,
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historical research. Our future selves, advanced super advanced human beings
might be simulating the past to study us their ancestors, right,
I have heard that one.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That'd be an easy way to like kind of time travel.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But yeah, it's like with.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Any of it.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, you're literally time traveling, but you're in complete control
of it at the same time, like you're not going
to do anything. And I mean, honestly, the way that
we are as human beings, like that's what we like
to do. We like to study things, we like to
learn things, we like to observe, and we like to
see what could happen if this happens. And you know,
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maybe when you see all these like crazy you know,
actresses or political leaders or like crazy wars that happen
just out of nowhere. Maybe that's just them like, hey,
let's let's see what happens if this dude does this.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, well can they stop?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I know, right, calm the fuck down, everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I mean, there's you know, anyone would like pay to
be on a Titanic to witness it like that kind
of stuff, like, right, you would simulate all that anyway.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, well, and that's get into the next possibility is entertainment.
We've kind of talked about it already, but yeah it
you you we can do that now where we have
VRS where you can go and simulate a reality of
and granted you're not being you can't like smell, you know, touch, feel,
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but it's not that far off. Like I guarantee you,
within our lifetime there will be some sort of simulation
where you can literally plug yourself in and you will
be able to experience whatever you wanted to experience. I
guarantee that is definitely going to happen, you know, because
the way that v is already even with those stupid games,
(36:02):
My kids have got that gorilla tag thing many and dude,
when you fall in that game, your brain tricks me
to literally thinking you're falling.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Obviously you realize right away that you're not. But for
that like split second, you're like, oh fuck, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So it's easy to put yourself. I mean, it's like
that experiment where they cut off your hand, but it
was a dummy hand, that's right. Yeah, Like you don't
even have to be in a VR to think that
your hand just got chopped off.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, And like I said, it's not like a long
lasting thing. It's that split second that your brain's like,
oh fuck, you know what I mean. That's that's what
that experiment is meant to. You know, underscore more than anything.
But I mean the same way that we play video
games now, Like that is a huge part of Western culture,
you know what I mean. Why would it not continue
(36:57):
to persist as we proceed to the future, right, Yeah,
definitely going to.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
People love like cozy games too, and stuff like just
live in life and stuff like that. Be in the farmer,
what is it like Stardu Valley and yeah, dude, like
all that stuff. They have to work and get money.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And yeah, if you like I guarantee you. There is
so many different markets. Like let's say, hey, for the
next two hours, i want to see what it was
like to live as a peasant in medieval Europe. I'm
going to go see how I would live, where I
would live, where I would work, you know, And there
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are plenty of people. I mean, like you said, there
are people that play those farming games right now, right,
you know what I mean. So if it's like, well, shoot,
if I could actually sit in this massive piece of
machinery until this field and physically be there, right, but
I'm not really doing it, but I'm I am at
the same time, why not it? It's definitely gonna happen.
(38:01):
And I would bet within our lifetime that you'll be
able to put on a suit or put on a something,
you know, to interface with your brain to where you
will be put into that simulation, you know what I mean. Yeah,
But see, then that's what freaks me out because if
we if we're aware that we can do that, who's
to say that's not already happening and we are creating
(38:22):
yet another simulation.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, we just keep going, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
We yeah, we just keep on going. Further and further,
you know, into the testa rack of however many you know,
but there is a few theories that you know, are
a little bit more bid, darker. We kind of touched
on this too. We could all be part of an
experiment that's very well what it could be, and that
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would you know, not to be cynical or anything, but
when you know, like I said earlier, you got crazy
political leaders, you got wars that pop off out of nowhere.
Maybe that's just them fucking with us and seeing what
we're going to do, you know what I mean? It
could also be something even crazier of a test to
see how intelligent beings behave under certain conditions.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It could be an advanced.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Civilization that's just like, hey, before we make ourselves known
to these guys, let's put them in this thing to
see how they actually actually.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Will be, would react and stuff, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So the bad thing is if we are in a simulation,
it's more than likely we won't be able to tell.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah. So well, besides the science we are talked.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
About, well that's clues to it for sure, right, Yeah,
But there are many scientists that reject the simulation theory.
There's always going to be the pros to the cons,
and the cons of the pros. The biggest criticism it's unfalsifiable.
You can't prove it, you can't disprove it. It's just
one of those like.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That doesn't really change much anyway, Like okay.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right, it literally changes nothing. Right, even if we found
out we are, it's like, well, what are we doing
about it? And then if we are, we're not even
like physical like actual beings outside of it, So what
what are we doing? It doesn't matter at that point,
you know, I think it would be kind of like
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like simultaneously terrifying and a relief.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like I don't know how you would wrestle with those
two extremes, but I feel like it would definitely be
those two.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Like yeah, I mean then you would know, right, like
whatever the purpose, Well you wouldn't really know the purpose,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
But well, even if there is a purpose, there might
not even be one, right, And then how would people
take that?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It's like, well, fuck, dude.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, I'm just you know a mess of atoms and
you know, photons that these people created just to push
buttons and be like oh hey, dude, watch this. I'm
about to have this. You know, guys say this to
this guy. You know, let's see what happens. Yeah, it'd
be pretty disheartening.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Well, then you can look at the sky and just
say fuck you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, just stand up, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Jim over there, like I don't know, make a name
for the little person or the thing that's controlling you.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, that cheetah eating living with your mom asked bitch.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, and then when something hat you trip on the sidewalk,
you're like, fuck you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But others point out that even if simulations are possible,
there's no reason to assume that they would be common
or we would even happen to.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Be in one. Yeah what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So it's it's such a complex thing to try to
argue too, because like, if we're simulating an entire universe
down to atoms, that would require like unimaginable processing power,
you know, possibly more than it would have. It would
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be more than the universe.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
We currently have it, it would be right.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But for the other side of that argument, if it's
an advanced civilization and they made this, it's nowhere close
to what they live in either. You know what I mean,
so maybe they do have access to that sort of power,
but maybe that's another one of those constraints that we
kind of have on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah. I mean, they wouldn't have to have all the
power of our universe because our universe would only exist
what we look at.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
True. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, like you said, it could it could just
render what is needed and when it's.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Needed, right, So it could be a lot less power
than your thinking.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, and then that kind of brings us back to
that the quantum observer of fact. So you know, it's
like nothing is choosing to do anything until it's actually observed.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I mean, right, that's still it's just.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It's just suspended until it's like, oh okay, now I'll
do this.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Or not even or not even there or doing anything,
you know what I mean. But once again, listener, as
I don't be knowing what I'm talking about when I
talk about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
It's just you know, if.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
You know the common if you know, comment dumb below
and let me know and get me up to beat
on this stuff, because I I don't know. So, so
what do you think of, Sarah? You think we live
in a simulation.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I'm starting to think, yes we did.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I was already kind of like somewhat pretty confident on it,
but after that first bit of research I did into it,
I was like, damn dude, and then the stuff happening,
like and call it for what it is. It could
have just been a coincidence where I did drop my keys.
It very well could be. It could have been something
where I just they were hanging out in my pocket
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and I dropped them, right.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I don't think that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I don't think so that's just me. Yeah, the
simulation gave you a sign so you would bleep more?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Well, can see.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's the That's the only other thing, Like, why would
it want me to? That's that's what I was thinking
about today. I was like, well, if it was a simulation,
wouldn't it not want to be known that?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Maybe it's become sentient.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Maybe, or maybe I'm going to get a knock on
the door from the men in black here in a
couple of hours and they're gonna be like, hey, you
need to delete everything on your computer that you talked
about simulation theory.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Possibly, well, you let me know if that happens.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, well I won't be able to they'll reset you.
They might reset me. Then what am I going to do?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I can't have another bodcast host.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They're gonna well, they're going to reset. No, they won't
do that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
They're going to reset me back to last week when
I decided what I was going to do.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Else for me?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god. And then I won't know,
you won't know, you know, I'll pick simulation and then
to meet.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Then we're gonna have just a rolling effect because eventually
we're gonna get back to it.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
We're gonna we're gonna it's gonna help. Yeah, we come
back to it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's not gonna stop. But that's about all I got
for simulation theory. So listeners, let us know what you think.
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Speaker 3 (01:18):
Welcome back to The Paranoid Perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am Jake and I'm Sarah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sarah. Have you ever seen neighbors bring in groceries?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No? Not really.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Have you ever had.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Weird bouts of deja vous where you know you've been
here before, but you never you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Know, have yep?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, Well to those, All of.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
These point to the stunning conclusion that more than likely
we live in a simulation. Someone is you have a
little diamond over your head and someone is controlling you,
Sarah like.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
This, Okay, that's a little far. Where's my cheek codes?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I know right where are mine at? I need those, man,
I need to get the cheat codes, you know, the
way played. I'm not asking for much here. I just,
you know, a little financial stability where I don't have
to worry about a whole lot would be amazing, you know,
just an average little thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, man, maybe we could do the cheat code from
the sim wasn't it like whether trash Can or something?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I I rarely played that game, so but yeah, funny.
One of my nieces plays that a lot, or not
want of mine, my niece in law, however you want
to call it, you know, Yeah, she plays that game
all the time. And we kind of were talking about
this last night and it was hilarious because that's just
what I'm picturing now. Just all of us riding around
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the world with little diamonds over the head.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, as long as they don't take out the ladder
in the pool, I.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Know, right, we're always gonna drown.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
But it's a question that's been proposed by you know, scientists, philosopher,
science fiction fans alike. You know, do we actually live
in a simulation? And depending on who you ask, the
answer isn't just maybe, it's most certainly so.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Wow, Yeah, it's It's.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
One of those weird things, man, where I was actually
talking to a few people about it, and it the
the differences between this and like religion are nothing, you
know what I mean, Like there was a creator that
made you into existence, and you know what I mean,
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And guides you on your right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, everything is predetermined because it's laid out in the code, man.
But at its core, simulation theory proposes this everything around you,
the people in your life, the planet, we walk on,
the sky, the stars, even this probably this very podcast
is all a sophisticated computer simulation, every single thing. It's
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easy to think about it. With most of the theories
that are out there of like a super hyperistic realistic
video game right, But instead of using things like pixels
and polygons and other things to create these images, we
are being built upon by particles and atoms and laws
of physics. So it's kind of just like a super
(04:18):
advanced video game that are actually using real physical materials
to do it. So the reason why it feels so
real is because it's designed to feel real.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Duh, right, Yeah, we wouldn't know otherwise.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's like, in all honesty, I mean, what happens if
we are in a simulation we become self aware? Does
the does the person that created the simulation just like, oh,
that's like the matrix up, We're just starting this over again.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, unplug it?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yep, Yeah, I know, right, I wonder I mean not
that I guess you wouldn't know if it just stopped,
you know, I don't know. But the simulation theoriesuggest that
advanced civilizations, perhaps more advanced than we can even imagine,
have created this simulated universe, which kind of harping back
(05:08):
to what I said earlier. God right, right, I mean
that that's literally what they would be if that is
truly the case, right, So these are conscious beings just
like everybody that we interact with, or so we think,
but they live outside of this reality that we perceive.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So once again, God, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, but wouldn't it be like simulations within simulations then
or something like like we have you know, video games
that are the sims maybe or whatever, and then they
have their own sim like would they who's the master?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't think it's I don't think there's ever. I
don't think that answer makes sense or that question makes sense,
you know what I mean. That's like it's the same
thing we've talked about before of like if you're at
the north pole, which direction's north? It does like that
question doesn't have an answer. It doesn't mean anything because
how would you how would you determine that? I mean,
(06:08):
if the universe is even the age they say it
is of, like the thirteen point eight billion years old,
we probably wouldn't be the first simulation. Yeah, there would
probably be some like super advanced civilization that possibly survived
from very early on in the existence of the universe.
(06:28):
But then to think too, if we're looking at it
from the perspective of this is our universe, so they
wouldn't exist here with us either, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I don't. I don't know how you would be.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Now we're just begin to a universe in a box,
and then they're a universe in a box in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The Yeah yeah, yeah, just boxes, it is, Tessa, rats,
just testaacts upon testsa ras of just all this. So,
but to get away from some of the WU stuff,
this really just isn't science fiction.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So there was a philosopher named Nick Bostrom. He published
a now famous paper titled you are Living in a
Computer simulation. And I have seen that article before. I
don't think i've read it all the way through. I
know I've definitely read that before. But essentially he proposed,
you know, at least one of the following things are true.
(07:20):
Civilizations like ours never reached the level of technological advancement
required to run realistic simulations of their own.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They just don't. They just don't.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Advanced civilizations don't bother running simus. Oh my god, I
can't talk, Samuel. See here we go, this is it's
all fucking starting again. Help me out here, Sarah, what
is it? Simulations?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Boom? See just took me a minute to catch up.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Or we are most certainly living in a simulation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right now, thank you. So those are the three things.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Either we never get the technology to the point where
we can get there, if there are advanced technowledge civilizations,
they don't even worry about doing this shit. Or we
are most certainly not in the actual reality. We're in
something that is made up.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right, So there's a few I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Was he sorry? Was he saying those are all equally
likely in his opinion, or he's.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He proposed that at least one of the following must
be true. Okay, so I'm assuming based on that that, yes,
they are all equally likely, but it's not like something
that would be together, it would be one of the three.
So that was kind of a standpoint with that paper,
And I mean, there's a lot more to it, and listeners,
(08:43):
I would encourage you, if you're interested, to go check
out that paper. We can have it linked down below
in the show notes or that article that he wrote.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because that's that's just a very.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Brief general overview of everything that he had in there.
But if we start to think about it in future civilizations,
if they can create these realistic simulations, oh my god,
it's gonna be the worst fucking episode. Now I've gotten
to the rhythm now and now I can't fucking break it.
(09:14):
Sim elation, simulations, simulaysans. There you go, this is gonna
be the best short ever simulations. This is your character
they're fucking with They're fucking with me because they don't
want me to get out the information. See proven point
(09:34):
right now, listeners, here you go. They're like, hey, stop
this dude from talking. You know, just one specific word,
sim you lay sun.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's how I'll say it for the rest of the
time because now I gotta really think about it. But
if they can create these realistic simulations, and if they
decided to do it, it's very likely that there are
way more simulated realities than there are these base reality
that there would have to be, because if they can
start to do it, why wouldn't you just be like, oh, yeah,
(10:06):
now this is just a new hot video game. Hey,
every teenage kid with a whatever electronical device can download
this on that device and there you go. Now you're
just you know, you gotta stunt knows kid. That is
just you know, creating an entire universe, and maybe we
are one of those universes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, yeah, oh my god, it's like that. I've
heard like what if we're the Science Fair.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Project exactly, yeah, one hundred percent, we're just or we're
the we're the the fat guy eating Cheetohs in his
mom's face, you know what I mean, that's that's who
we are, you know, or something like that. Like it's
because I always think it's funny how much hubrious human
beings have about like us, you know, like, oh, we're
this great creation of whatever blah blah blah blah blah.
(10:52):
In reality, it's just some crazy like fourth dimensional being
that just got bored, you know that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Still is mom and just maybe oh this will be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. But yeah, so to kind of get a little
bit serious about this. So there are scientific cases for
the simulation theory. Now, there is quite a lot that
scientists have to say about this. One of the key
arguments for the simulation theory is based on computational limits
(11:25):
within the universe itself, so for instance, the speed of light,
that nothing can fast travel faster than the speed of light.
And I know, like people that really buy into this
are probably like looking for something like that, but it
appears like it's a built in rule for the owners,
(11:46):
you know, like there's you're not there's nothing you can do,
there's no cheat code to to get away, you know
what I mean. Now, if we do have a cheat code,
I e. Like warping space to be able to travel,
and we are in a simulation, I mean, I wonder
what's going to happen with that, you know what I mean?
Because if we're not supposed to break that speed limit
(12:10):
and we do, then it won't load. Well that's what
I'm saying. Yeah, like space, it won't render fast enough
for you to observe it, you know what I mean.
So I thought that was kind of interesting. Another really
crazy one, and I don't like the way this is okay,
and listeners to Just to preface this, I am not
(12:32):
an expert in any of this stuff. I like to
read about stuff and watch videos about this stuff, but
I am no means an expert. So I'm about to
say some real stupid shit right now. So don't light
me up for not knowing things. I'm telling you right now.
I'm not knowing about this, but it freaks me out.
In quantum experience or experiments, particles in a state are
(12:53):
always in a state of probability. They don't choose a
definite state until they're fucking observed or measured. That scares
the fucking shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, they're like waves and particles right until it's observed
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, until it we until we interact with it. Then
it's like, oh no, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, now this is the way I'm going.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That that is weird.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's so fucking crazy, you know, it's so crazy, and
I hate hate not knowing, like not having the capacity
to understand what that means. But it scares the shit
out of me. So, but some proponents of simulation theory
say this is exactly how a simulation would operate, kind
of what you heart back to Sarah. Systems only render
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when something is looking at it. You know, for instance,
when you're playing in a game, if you're playing something
like a crazy like super high visibility first person shooter game, like,
it's not going to render stuff off to your peripheral left, right,
or behind you because it just needs to focus on
what's in front of you. So everything else is not
going to be actually rendering until you turn to look
(14:08):
at it. I mean we do that now with most
video games.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, so yeah, well how many people do you think
everyone is real? Or are there inn PCs? Because like
everyone's looking at stuff all the time, Like it's got
to render everything that people are looking at.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
See, that's where it gets weird, right, because I think
if it is a simulation, you are like everyone close
to you isn't an NPC, but everyone else is. But
everyone has their own version of that at the same time,
you know what I mean. So to ninety nine point
(14:46):
nine percent of the world, I'm just an MPC because right,
you know what I mean, I know who I know.
But and I was kind of told I was poking
fun with a friend of mine last night talking about this,
and I was like, well, that's why you can say
the most off the wall shit to people and they're
not going to do anything because they don't know what
they like. Like if you if you were to go
to like a convenience store and buy a soda or
(15:08):
whatever you're gonna get, you know what I mean, And
you just said the most wild shit to them, They're
probably just going to be like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, well is that because you're crazy or is.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That because they're an NPC or because they don't have
the loaded response that's saying, you're told, right, thank you?
Would you like a bag? Would you like a receipt?
Those are their COVID responses for you. Now, I'm just
poking fun and all. Honestly, they probably are just like,
holy shit, we get this dude out of my fucking
store and I want to see you know what I mean.
(15:39):
But it does make for an interesting thing because how
how would we determine because it would be very personal
it like, yes, for me, this is what it is,
but for everybody else, right, I mean I have friends,
I have families, I have kids, I have you know,
significant others.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like they can't be in PC's because I.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Interact with them on a pretty regular basis.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, you would think they're not in PCs, although maybe
you can befriended in PC that's what acquaintances are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
But if we're in such like a super high powerful simulation,
maybe when you befriend the NPC, it like changes the code.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, it like becomes you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, right, man, who knows? But we kind of already
talked about it. But it's it's like games do that
to preserve like processing power as far as rendering not
what you're looking at or and only doing that. So
if it was a simulation, that's exactly how we behave.
Are you familiar with the plank length? It's like the
smallest measurable length of space.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, So it's all.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Over the universe and it has a minimum resolution like
a pixel on a screen. That's how people would like
to describe.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
What So once again, it's like one of those it's
like speed of light. It's one of those things that
is literally everywhere and you can't go smaller. Right, So
I didn't like reading that part either. This whole, this
whole like actual scientific part like freaks me the fuck
out because.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's like it makes it seem more real, like.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I know, like listening to people talk about it and
like saying funny stuff about it, like yeah, it's fun
to too. But dude, like when I kind of started
deep diving into this part of it, I was like, dude,
I don't don't.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Don't like this at all.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So physicists have even suggested that we could find clues
to our simulation by looking for underlying patterns of code
hidden in the fabric of reality itself. There is a
theoretical physicist, James Gates, who claim to have found something
strange in the equations of string theory mathematical structures resembling
error correcting codes.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What wait, how do you find it in an equation?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Like what, Sarah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't do you remember? You remember how I say
I don't be knowing things. Yeah, I don't be knowing
what that means.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But but I just really zoomed in the equation.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I've tried.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've listened to so many podcasts, watched so many videos,
listen to experts in that field of like quantum theory,
string theory, like these super fringe, really revolutionary, like scientific
scientific endeavors, and Dude, within about two minutes of them speaking,
I'm just like, yeah, it's it's I don't know what
(18:29):
you I don't know what that means. Like, I can't
comprehend what that means. So I'm gonna kind of go
out on a limb and say, if he's a theoretical physicist,
he's physicist, he's probably significantly more smarter than ninety percent
of the people I know, and I'm gonna trust him
with what he's got to say, yeah, that's just me.
(18:50):
But to hear something like that, like we have stuff
in games that will like correct certain things and if
we do have an error, it will reload and do
stuff like that. And to be able to find supposable
mathematical structures resembling.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
That, Yeah, sounds like we are in a simulation.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like I said, at first, I thought, like, I know
there's scientific backing for this. I know people have talked
about this. I know I've heard podcasts about this, but
I have never really dug, like super deep into the
actual like what people are saying. And so I get
like and being able to like mentally digest it, yeah,
you know, an easier way, and hearing these like fifteen
(19:39):
syllable words and then you know, I yeah, but doing
this little bit over the past week, it was like, dude,
this is not fun. But to kind of get out
of like the more scientific stuff. I mean, it's been
a big thing in.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Pop culture forever.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
One of the biggest ones I'm sure a lot of
people have seen or if at least heard about, is
the matrix, you know, and one of the famous I
think it was something that's the effect of Like one
of the first big wines in the movie was what
if everything you know is an illusion?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Or something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I can't remember exactly what the quote was, but you know,
I don't think we're being like battery powered for some
crazy AI that we created, you know, thousands of years ago.
But at the same time, it that movie in particular,
like it shows a lot of stuff like deja vu.
(20:37):
It shows a lot of stuff that like you can
if you become aware of the simulation, you can start
to crack the simulation and start to do things outside
of you know what I mean. So, yeah, that was
a cool way to kind of approach that, especially like
that was in like the late nineties, if I remember correctly,
So real, Real ahead of its time movie, second third one,
(21:00):
not a fan first one.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, persons very good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, maybe they knew they knew things. Well, maybe
it was the person that created the simulation or the
thing that created the simulation, just slipping a little bit
to be like, hey think about this now, right. Well,
but philosophers even as far back as the sixteen hundreds
question whether we could trust our senses at all and
(21:26):
wondered if we might all be dreaming or deceived by
an evil demon creating a false reality. So wow, I
mean it's been around for quite a while, and I mean,
I know, like philosophy has kind of like ebbed and
flow out of like the cultural zeitgeist throughout you know,
the centuries, because sometimes it's super important to have like
(21:47):
these real deep thinkers and philosophers. And then I can
imagine with that little quote at the end of it,
I talked about in sixteen hundreds of being controlled by
an evil demon creating a false reality. Right, it gets
a little you know, it ebbs and flows for sure
throughout the years.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But anything's possible, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
But I mean you can even look in like current
we have stuff like Westworld, Black Mirror m hm. And
we touched on this at the beginning, the sims like
that is one of probably one of the most popular
video games from that era, and it's still being played today.
So I don't know, it's one of those like I've
(22:28):
I've always kind of thought about it, like why does
it freak us out so much? And I think it's
literally what I said at the beginning is it's not
what it seems. What we're seeing is not what it seems,
you know, And I think everybody has had that sort
of feeling before that what they're seeing in front of
(22:48):
them is is not really real.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So right, Well, you do create your own reality too,
so true. Yeah, then things can feel unreal or.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Whatever, and your perception is your reality, Like yes, it
doesn't matter whether it's your social ideas, whether it's your
political ideology, like whatever, whatever you're feeding into yourself, and
that in perceiving, that is what your reality is, right,
And I think that's that's a product of just evolution
(23:21):
of human beings. And I'm not saying that from a
simulation theory perspective. I'm just saying I think that's how
we operate, that whatever we put in is what we're
going to perceive outward, right sort of idea.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, I mean you can have like a hundred people
see the same event and everyone's gonna tell it differently.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's like the world's biggest game of fucking telephone.
It's not even funny. So but here's where it gets
really weird. There are glitches in this reality. We kind
of touched on.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
This already, Glitches in the matrix.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That's what I'm saying I love that sub breddit.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh dude, right, So that's what I'm saying. So you've
got stories of personal glitches in the simulations, you know,
and I would highly recommend. I've been on that subreddit
before too, and it's awesome. Yeah, but you know, something
as simple as deja vous. Yeah, I've had I still
(24:17):
have bouts of deja vu, like all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I don't dream.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, I don't have deja vous as much anymore. I
used to have it a lot more.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, maybe maybe the simulation is feeding it to you
when you sleep, and it's like I'm the one that's
getting it while I'm awake, you know, or conscious or
whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, hell, I mean, do you think deja vou? Did
we talk about this before where it's like that was
your last checkpoint or something like you died?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
No, but I one would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, maybe that is like whoever's playing your sim took
a fucking ladder out of the pool, right, and your
last checkpoint was wherever you were at. You know, now
you got to start back over again, hopefully. Since I've
made it this far, I don't like respond back to
like a twelve year old or something like that, and
you know, just got to do this shit all over again.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Hey, then you can make really good investments.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, but would you even remember.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't know, yeah, would you you know what I mean? Not?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Would you just because you would just remember up to
that point where you got to you know what I mean.
But the person if you're being like, if you were
literally being played, the person that is playing you would
remember everything because they saw it as well to the
point where you died.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So yeah, maybe they learned some things.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You know, And you call it whatever you want, the
fat guy in the with the Cheeto dust on his shirt,
or your guardian angel, whatever you want to call it,
being a gig.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I've had this happen quite a lot moments when time
seems to slow down or jumps ahead. I have had
so many moments of like lost time or like no shit,
seeing things happen in slow motion.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Really just normal, like every day.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, No, it's been like extreme, yeah circumstances. But like
in those extreme circumstances, like and you could chalk it
up to adrenaline, you could chalk it up to you
know whatever, fear is going through your mind at that
point where you've got to be hyper focused on like
the task at hand. Sure I can buy that, but
nonetheless it has happened so many times, especially with the
(26:33):
times slowing down, and like it literally is just like
slow motion.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Wow, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But then the jumping ahead that happens quite a lot,
like where I will lose track of time and it's
not just like fifteen twenty minutes, it's like hours.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like still that's happening. Not when you're younger, Oh wow,
is it? It's not just you get in a flow state.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It might lose it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But it only happens when I'm by myself though, That's what.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's what click skips.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It only happens when I'm
by myself. It doesn't happen when other people are around.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You know. It does feel like when I have a
day alone and I'm like working on stuff and it's
like the whole day's gone and I just like I
only got like two things done.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That is exactly dude.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Like I said, we talked a little bit off air.
The current situation I got Right now, I'm gonna have
a little bit of time to myself. I'm so fucking
terrified that it's just gonna fly by and I'm not
gonna get anything done.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I feel like that does happen? Well, I'm so fast, And.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Once again, it's just like it's not like I'm just
vegging out and playing video games. I'm working on stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And then it's like, oh, where are we at? No?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Oh shit, it's you know, two o'clock in the morning.
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right? You know? Oh that is weird.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
The last one was kind of interesting, vanishing objects and
reappearing impossible places, you know, And I've had a handful
of times where that had happened. Craziest thing about it,
when I was putting this together, that happened to me
last night. Really it happened to me last night.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I was at work and I had to run out
to my car to get a few things, and I
couldn't find my keys. I don't ever put my keys
anywhere besides my right pocket, in my pants or in
the bag I bring to work. Yeah, none of those places.
(28:34):
It happened to be inside of a trailer. Listeners, I
work at a warehouse. Yeah, for my day job. It
happened to be inside of a trailer. Now you can
chalk it up because I did go into that trailer
at last night.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I did do that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So just like fell out, well, your pocket, I don't
think so though.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's fucking like I was putting this together today and
when I was doing my notes for this episode, I
was like, hold the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I don't like this either. What are we doing here?
Because that literally just happened.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I didn't have my I had all my notes
like kind of like loosely together, but I hadn't put
like anything together yet until to day and this happened
last night.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like it's just giving you a story to tell for.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
This, That's what I'm saying. It's just like, oh, hey,
got a good one.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Because aren't your keys kind of big? Like how would
they fall out with you? You noticing?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And I don't like I don't hang them out of
my pocket, but they're completely in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right and guys, pockets are like a mile logue. Yeah,
they should have fallen out.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
My my wrist.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sorry, I hit the microphone listeners my wrist like down
to like here goes into my pocket.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's yeah, so that's weird, dude.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
When I I was putting these together today and I
was kind of organizing what I was going to talk about,
I was actually really good. You'd be happy, Sarah, I
have organized this shit out of this today. Maybe it's
part of the simulation too. Yeah, but no, when I
got to this point of the episode, I was like,
are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Awesome?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And to be fair, I've had stuff like that happen
quite a lot where I cannot find anything, and the
keys are a good example, Like I would I would
have heard them drop, you know what I mean. You're
in a confined metal box, you would have heard them drop.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, that's weird. Maybe it's a goblin, Yeah, isn't that
what some people say? Or leprekuns or something.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Or well, I mean chocolate.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You could chalk it up to any like mythical creature,
because I mean, if we are in a simulation, these
things that we perceive as monsters, demons, fairies, bigfoot whatever,
like if they are able to come in and out like, yeah,
we wouldn't be able to like fully comprehend what the awer.
So but yeah, so was this just an error? Was
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I just following my keys just fell out of my pocket?
Or was this simulation that like had a glitch when
I was in that trailer and that's where they was
a glit?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I feel like it was.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Now, granted, granted, I'm buying into this pretty hardcore. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna lie to anybody. Most of
the stuff I'm kind of like, oh, it seems like bullshit.
I don't know why this doesn't seem like fucking bullshit.
It speaks to you, it speaks to me, my my
cheeto eating you know, player, is you know, really making
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me go all in on this?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I suppose, Yeah, I believe it. I don't know now
I believe it for some of the science stuff too,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, well, people see here's where it gets kind of
creepy though. People report seeing like duplicate strangers, like doppelgangers
for other people.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I've seen where it's like people on a bus and
they all look the same in the same seat or whatever.
I've seen pictures of those two.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, or yeah, like you see two people that look
or act identical appearing in the same place at the
same time, Like I don't know, and see this is
another one that kind of freaks me out because I've
seen this happen before to people, and I chalked it
up to being an overactive kid and having imaginations. People
describe bizarre experiences where literally reality or objects themselves will
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seem to flicker or freeze, like a frozen video game,
like trying to like like catch up.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, you've seen that too, yep, as a kid or
more recently, no.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
More as a kid, And like I said, you can
chalk that up to being you know, young kid, over
imagination or whatever. But no, I haven't seen that any
time in the recent recent years. But you know, the
skeptics will say the same stuff where it's a coincidence,
you know, you're playing like a psychological trick on yourself,
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or you're having like memory errors. Now, I'll be the
first one to tell you, like, the human memory is
not like a good way to gauge it, because, like
you said, you could have fifteen people see the same thing.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
And they're going to have fifteen different stories on what happened.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, right, you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Know, so it's completely understandable, you know why people would
be skeptical, and it could be signs that the simulation
isn't quite perfect, you know what I mean? So well,
the burning question that it was funny because I had
a friend of mine ask me this, and I threw
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this in here. Why are we being simulated? Why would
anyone want to run simulations of our lives? I look
into this era and there are a shit ton of
theories as to why there would be simulations of whatever earth. Yeah,
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historical research. Our future selves, advanced super advanced human beings
might be simulating the past to study us their ancestors, right,
I have heard that one.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That'd be an easy way to like kind of time travel.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But yeah, it's like with.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Any of it.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, you're literally time traveling, but you're in complete control
of it at the same time, like you're not going
to do anything. And I mean, honestly, the way that
we are as human beings, like that's what we like
to do. We like to study things, we like to
learn things, we like to observe, and we like to
see what could happen if this happens. And you know,
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maybe when you see all these like crazy you know,
actresses or political leaders or like crazy wars that happen
just out of nowhere. Maybe that's just them like, hey,
let's let's see what happens if this dude does this.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, well can they stop?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I know, right, calm the fuck down, everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I mean, there's you know, anyone would like pay to
be on a Titanic to witness it like that kind
of stuff, like, right, you would simulate all that anyway.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, well, and that's get into the next possibility is entertainment.
We've kind of talked about it already, but yeah it
you you we can do that now where we have
VRS where you can go and simulate a reality of
and granted you're not being you can't like smell, you know, touch, feel,
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but it's not that far off. Like I guarantee you,
within our lifetime there will be some sort of simulation
where you can literally plug yourself in and you will
be able to experience whatever you wanted to experience. I
guarantee that is definitely going to happen, you know, because
the way that v is already even with those stupid games,
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My kids have got that gorilla tag thing many and dude,
when you fall in that game, your brain tricks me
to literally thinking you're falling.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Obviously you realize right away that you're not. But for
that like split second, you're like, oh fuck, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So it's easy to put yourself. I mean, it's like
that experiment where they cut off your hand, but it
was a dummy hand, that's right. Yeah, Like you don't
even have to be in a VR to think that
your hand just got chopped off.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, And like I said, it's not like a long
lasting thing. It's that split second that your brain's like,
oh fuck, you know what I mean. That's that's what
that experiment is meant to. You know, underscore more than anything.
But I mean the same way that we play video
games now, Like that is a huge part of Western culture,
you know what I mean. Why would it not continue
(36:57):
to persist as we proceed to the future, right, Yeah,
definitely going to.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
People love like cozy games too, and stuff like just
live in life and stuff like that. Be in the farmer,
what is it like Stardu Valley and yeah, dude, like
all that stuff. They have to work and get money.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And yeah, if you like I guarantee you. There is
so many different markets. Like let's say, hey, for the
next two hours, i want to see what it was
like to live as a peasant in medieval Europe. I'm
going to go see how I would live, where I
would live, where I would work, you know, And there
(37:36):
are plenty of people. I mean, like you said, there
are people that play those farming games right now, right,
you know what I mean. So if it's like, well, shoot,
if I could actually sit in this massive piece of
machinery until this field and physically be there, right, but
I'm not really doing it, but I'm I am at
the same time, why not it? It's definitely gonna happen.
(38:01):
And I would bet within our lifetime that you'll be
able to put on a suit or put on a something,
you know, to interface with your brain to where you
will be put into that simulation, you know what I mean. Yeah,
But see, then that's what freaks me out because if
we if we're aware that we can do that, who's
to say that's not already happening and we are creating
(38:22):
yet another simulation.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, we just keep going, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
We yeah, we just keep on going. Further and further,
you know, into the testa rack of however many you know,
but there is a few theories that you know, are
a little bit more bid, darker. We kind of touched
on this too. We could all be part of an
experiment that's very well what it could be, and that
(38:50):
would you know, not to be cynical or anything, but
when you know, like I said earlier, you got crazy
political leaders, you got wars that pop off out of nowhere.
Maybe that's just them fucking with us and seeing what
we're going to do, you know what I mean? It
could also be something even crazier of a test to
see how intelligent beings behave under certain conditions.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It could be an advanced.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Civilization that's just like, hey, before we make ourselves known
to these guys, let's put them in this thing to
see how they actually actually.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Will be, would react and stuff, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So the bad thing is if we are in a simulation,
it's more than likely we won't be able to tell.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah. So well, besides the science we are talked.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
About, well that's clues to it for sure, right, Yeah,
But there are many scientists that reject the simulation theory.
There's always going to be the pros to the cons,
and the cons of the pros. The biggest criticism it's unfalsifiable.
You can't prove it, you can't disprove it. It's just
one of those like.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That doesn't really change much anyway, Like okay.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right, it literally changes nothing. Right, even if we found
out we are, it's like, well, what are we doing
about it? And then if we are, we're not even
like physical like actual beings outside of it, So what
what are we doing? It doesn't matter at that point,
you know, I think it would be kind of like
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like simultaneously terrifying and a relief.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like I don't know how you would wrestle with those
two extremes, but I feel like it would definitely be
those two.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Like yeah, I mean then you would know, right, like
whatever the purpose, Well you wouldn't really know the purpose,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
But well, even if there is a purpose, there might
not even be one, right, And then how would people
take that?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It's like, well, fuck, dude.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, I'm just you know a mess of atoms and
you know, photons that these people created just to push
buttons and be like oh hey, dude, watch this. I'm
about to have this. You know, guys say this to
this guy. You know, let's see what happens. Yeah, it'd
be pretty disheartening.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Well, then you can look at the sky and just
say fuck you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, just stand up, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Jim over there, like I don't know, make a name
for the little person or the thing that's controlling you.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, that cheetah eating living with your mom asked bitch.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, and then when something hat you trip on the sidewalk,
you're like, fuck you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But others point out that even if simulations are possible,
there's no reason to assume that they would be common
or we would even happen to.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Be in one. Yeah what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So it's it's such a complex thing to try to
argue too, because like, if we're simulating an entire universe
down to atoms, that would require like unimaginable processing power,
you know, possibly more than it would have. It would
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be more than the universe.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
We currently have it, it would be right.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But for the other side of that argument, if it's
an advanced civilization and they made this, it's nowhere close
to what they live in either. You know what I mean,
so maybe they do have access to that sort of power,
but maybe that's another one of those constraints that we
kind of have on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah. I mean, they wouldn't have to have all the
power of our universe because our universe would only exist
what we look at.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
True. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, like you said, it could it could just
render what is needed and when it's.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Needed, right, So it could be a lot less power
than your thinking.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, and then that kind of brings us back to
that the quantum observer of fact. So you know, it's
like nothing is choosing to do anything until it's actually observed.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I mean, right, that's still it's just.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It's just suspended until it's like, oh okay, now I'll
do this.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Or not even or not even there or doing anything,
you know what I mean. But once again, listener, as
I don't be knowing what I'm talking about when I
talk about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
It's just you know, if.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
You know the common if you know, comment dumb below
and let me know and get me up to beat
on this stuff, because I I don't know. So, so
what do you think of, Sarah? You think we live
in a simulation.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I'm starting to think, yes we did.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I was already kind of like somewhat pretty confident on it,
but after that first bit of research I did into it,
I was like, damn dude, and then the stuff happening,
like and call it for what it is. It could
have just been a coincidence where I did drop my keys.
It very well could be. It could have been something
where I just they were hanging out in my pocket
(43:49):
and I dropped them, right.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I don't think that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I don't think so that's just me. Yeah, the
simulation gave you a sign so you would bleep more?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Well, can see.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's the That's the only other thing, Like, why would
it want me to? That's that's what I was thinking
about today. I was like, well, if it was a simulation,
wouldn't it not want to be known that?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Maybe it's become sentient.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Maybe, or maybe I'm going to get a knock on
the door from the men in black here in a
couple of hours and they're gonna be like, hey, you
need to delete everything on your computer that you talked
about simulation theory.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Possibly, well, you let me know if that happens.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, well I won't be able to they'll reset you.
They might reset me. Then what am I going to do?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I can't have another bodcast host.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They're gonna well, they're going to reset. No, they won't
do that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
They're going to reset me back to last week when
I decided what I was going to do.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Else for me?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god. And then I won't know,
you won't know, you know, I'll pick simulation and then
to meet.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Then we're gonna have just a rolling effect because eventually
we're gonna get back to it.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
We're gonna we're gonna it's gonna help. Yeah, we come
back to it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's not gonna stop. But that's about all I got
for simulation theory. So listeners, let us know what you think.
Do we live in a simulation? Do we not live
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