August 11, 2025 • 54 mins
What secrets are hiding behind the happiest places on Earth? In this episode, we uncover chilling conspiracies surrounding Disney’s Discovery Island—rumored to house human trafficking operations or even Walt Disney’s frozen body—and explore ghostly legends like Mr. One Way. But the mystery doesn’t end there. We journey to Santa Claus, Indiana, where strange tales swirl around Holiday World: from a church bell said to manipulate time to a secretive cult keeping the world from chaos.
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The Paranoid Perspective. I'm Jake and you can tell this
is quite the difference application. We are currently on vacation
as you saw from some of the short form content
at the Lovely Holiday World in Santa Claus, Indiana, So
we figured, even though we're on vacation, we're still going
to work. We're still going to provide some content for
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you guys and Sarah. We're gonna do theme park related craziness.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, yep, I'm gonna do Disney. I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Believe it or not, Holiday World apparently has a bunch
of craziness, so we're going to get into it. So
we'll start off with the Disney. That's probably stuff that
everybody's going to know to begin with. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, well I didn't know. Yeah, I don't pay that
much attention. But okay, Disney. Do you know Discovery Island
at Disney World. I guess in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right me neither. It's eleven and a half acres, Okay,
so pretty big. It was originally Treasure Island.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But okay, that's what I was going to say. I
was thinking I was getting confused with that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, but now it's totally closed, like totally cordoned off,
like not even employees can go over there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Really.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so originally it was for exotic birds. I guess,
like it was really I don't know. Some people thought
it was kind of lame compared to other stuff. Well,
I mean, but it started in well, I think I
don't know when it was open, like nineteen eighty nine.
I think early nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, so before a little just just a tiny bit
before our time.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, But then they had sixteen charges of animal cruelty.
Oh that's always good for the birds, I guess, and
they had like vultures, like a vulture issue. They end
up killing vultures because they were eating the exact birds,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I guess that are vultures scavengers.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, that's true, so the birds already dead before maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well I think maybe they had vultures. That's not exotic
birds though, But they were charged with animal cruelty sixteen counts,
and it said like maybe for the way they treated
the vultures. I don't know if they were already there
or they just were in the area, right and whatever,
But yeah, some of them died, and obviously later they
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got the charges taken off because Disney they have lawyers,
lots lots of good they have a lot of resources.
But then so they closed it in April eighth, nineteen
ninety nine. So no, so I guess it was twenty
five years after it was opened. So it had opened.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Twenty five years, sixteen counts of you know, animal cruelty.
It's not a bad record.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah. Well they never officially stated why they closed it.
They just closed it, which I don't know. I guess
they don't have to say why. But the Animal Kingdom
had just opened as well, so some people said, you know,
they only had exotic birds there. It's hard to get
to because you have to take like a fairy thing
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because it's an island. So people are saying they just
closed it because they had a better park open.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ah, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, but now it's abandoned and it's in ruins and
like you know, nature's completely overtaken it. But it's still
part of the property. Okay, they haven't done anything with it.
It's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh but if it's hard to get to, I mean
I wouldn't imagine that it would be.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, yeah, it's an island, but you could have boat
services and I mean it's eleven and a half acre.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
What are they doing with them?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They're not doing anything with it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
There's nothing there apparently allegedly nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
What's really weird about it is that it's heavily.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Guarded, so there is something going on there.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, but what that's the theory? Yeah, Lake Patrol heavily
guards it, like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And I'm assuming this is like Disney security that is
patrolling this or is it?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I said Lake Patrol? So I guess I assume it's
Disney related though, like they're hiring maybe like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Private contractors or something or a private company. Okay, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I guess there's a lot of high tech cameras
too to catch anything.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Do you think they have a total system over there.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that is part of the theory too. Have you
heard of that?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, definitely, But like that would make sense because if
it's if it's challenging to get like normal you know,
customers of Disney World or theme park attendee is to
get from A to B, I would assume it'd be like,
oh cool, well we could just transfer under water. Yeah
everything we need?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, good, But like apparently it's overrun by nature, like
there's nothing there, so why is it being patrolled twenty
four seven?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And well it could be if they do have tunnels,
they don't want people getting on the island sneaking across
the other secret alleged Disney World.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, the underground, Disney Disney Underground.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Forget Disney on Ice, everybody, We're going to Disney Underground,
way more edgy and cool.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, some people do think Walt Disney's body is there,
if he's frozen, which I'll talk a little bit about later,
but that maybe it's held there. But I mean people
also say, well, they say there's a bacteria there that
if people got it, they would spread it like a
pandemic somehow, I don't know, Like some I don't know
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if they're going as far as saying it's a bioweapon,
but maybe something has there because it's cordoned off.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Disney bio weapons. Yeah, what makes everybody way too happy?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Right? Well, I mean I don't know if you've heard
of like the human trafficking theory.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
From Disney World. Yeah, no, I have not heard of that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I guess people say, I don't know. They say
that they think that so many people go missing and
there's not stabs on it. Really that they think that
Disney's holding people for sex trafficking or human trafficking, and
they could be holding them at this island.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
With the tunnels are part of it too, I guess
to transport them.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And well we all know what rich people in islands
like to do, so yeah, so I mean that is wild. Yeah,
I mean I wouldn't put it past them too, especially
down in Florida, Like it would be easy to kind
of navigate, especially if they have tunnels and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well yeah, that's true. Why yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It'd be too easy to move anything.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right, Well yeah, drugs, like yeah, yeah, maybe that's where
they have the stash or something.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's where hey, we just cracked it. That's where Disney
gets all their money. They're actually smuggling coke.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean I found that like two thousand
children a year ago missing from all theme parks in
the US. I don't know if it's like, you know,
they're lost a little bit and then they find them,
oh okay, like if it's actually missing, like lost forever,
or just they lost them for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I was about to say, that's that's really terrifying. If
it is like no ship, they just disappear from theme parks, right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now there has to be some percentage.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well sure, absolutely, but two thousand a year.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's like, well from all the theme parks, but I
mean everything. Yeah, I doubt it's like they actually are
never found again.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I will tell you that I got lost
to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, when you went with our aunt yep, the first time.
I guess when I wasn't there, Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I wandered off and quickly realized, oh shit, I don't
know anybody around me.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh yep, weren't you like eight or something?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I was really young?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, well what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh, I mean it was like I wanted around, found
somebody that works there, and within I don't know, twenty
minutes found, but that twenty minutes is like a young child. Yeah,
seemed like forever.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Right, and you're never going to be found again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And me being dumb in whatever, I remember telling the
worker it's like my cousin and my aunt. That's all
I would say.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's like, okay, a little more or yeah, the name,
and I remember I remember my cousin was wearing a
cowboy hat, and that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said, my cousin's wearing the most scriptive answer you
could find right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh my god. Well, it's like it's like the story
that they said that yesterday that they helped old old
lady or a late not old lady. But the lady
was like, I don't know where my husband and son are.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Did I miss that? Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, they were saying that. She just said the husband
was wearing shark swim trunks.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, like the guy in the swim trunks.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, can he give me a little more and he's
maybe overweight.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Maybe yeah, Like Okay, we live in America where most
men of a certain age mildly overweight, if not heavily.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, so well those are adults though giving that kind
of information, you're a child saying just cowboy at But
that's good they found out. You're probably part of the
statistic then it's probably stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I've always wanted to be part of statistics. Well yeah,
like fun statistics, not boring ones.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, Yeah, so where's my spot? Okay, So April thirtieth,
twenty twenty, I guess there's a guy on YouTube that
snuck on the island and he set up camp on
Discovery Island. Like he set up a camp somehow, like
a tent to like camp out and stuff, and he
was like arrested, like he was found and arrested and
(11:18):
then he was banned from all Disney properties forever.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, that that seems a bit extreme. Now now I
can get like if they trespassed him, Yeah, from like
Disney World, that would make sense because he broke onto
the property, right, did that?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, all of them?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But for life well, But at the same time, Disney
does have like a conglomerate of like if he does
something done like that, I could possibly see that reasoning
of well, we don't want you on any of our property.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, he might do something else, but.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean that seems a bit extreme.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and for life not I mean do five years.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know, break in for another five years.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean that's like the first defense mate. I mean,
I don't know him or anything, but it's a little extreme. Yeah.
And he said that the island was like a tropical paradise,
like it didn't seem I mean, maybe it was overrun
by nature still, but he was like, this is amazing.
So it's it's all weird. And then River Country, I
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guess is Neighbor's Discovery Island. So it's another like island,
and it was the water park. I guess that they
had first. Oh, I had never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I've never heard of that either.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It opened June twentieth, nineteen seventy six, so yeah, yeah,
it's pretty a long time ago for us. But several
they had several deaths, you know, over the years because
I guess the way they kind of set it up
was the bay fed the water part, but they had
some kind of system that like filtered it out so
(12:57):
that way, like by here and stuff isn't like it's
supposed to be clean, oh and stuff. But they did
have like flesh eating amibas still.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
As an issue solid.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean, it's Florida too, like, so they had some
of those issues and people died from that, and then
they also had a couple drownings.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think, wow, that's to be expected.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, but they shut it down in two thousand and one,
so a year after Discovery Island, And they also didn't
give a reason for that either to shut it down.
And it's also heavily guarded as well, kind of they
probably patrol both.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah. I mean, if they're neighboring islands, I would assume
it'd probably be.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, so that's a little weird. So those are two
pro I don't know how big River Country was. I
didn't find that, but the first one is eleven and
a half. I think River Country is a little smaller.
That's a lot of property to not do anything with.
And you know that was twenty five years ago that they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Shut down just to let nature take over. Yeah over?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What are you doing there?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But still patrol it for some reason? Right? Huh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And I guess another set of YouTubers snuck onto River Country.
They didn't get caught, but they said that the theme
music was still playing. What Yeah, but really they said
twenty four seven. I guess I don't know how long
they stayed there to know that, but they said that
theme music was still playing and that the lights turned
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on at night really like on automatic timers.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But why would they still pay for it?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Why would they still have That doesn't make any sense? Right? Cool?
So not only do we need to investigate a million
Earhart's possible landing site, now we need to go to
River Country. Yeah, listeners, if you want, if you want
to help set up a we're going to set up
a go fund me to go do this not really well.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That that'll be more attainable though than a million, that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We could just drive there and then just get a boat.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But well, and then we'll get arrested and then we'll
be banned from all the problems.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh no, I cannot imagine what I would do if
I could never go back to a Disney resort.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I want to go to the Tokyo Disney, the Sea
Disney c I never went there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's the only one they're really going to pay attention
halfway around the world.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I mean, you know, it's Disney. They probably they hold
a grudge too too. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They'll have your picture plastered everywhere, not welcome.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah. So it's a little weird though, Yeah, that they
still power.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And everything, Yeah, that is really weird. And theme music,
I think that part might be a little I think
that might be a little over embellished. But the power,
the power thing, I guess could be realistic, because I mean,
if they just abruptly abandoned it, they might not have
turned anything off. But at the same time, that doesn't
make twenty five years, That's what I'm saying. It makes sense,
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And I know Disney makes a lot of money. But
I would think to power for at least what ten
hours a day to have lights on R Like, that's
an expense you would notice.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That is weird.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's very weird. Well, and I mean there are YouTubers.
I assume there's video, but they could put the theme
music over right. I mean, you don't really know, but no,
I guess I did put how many it's twenty acres
total for both.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Oh wow, so yeah they're almost the same size.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so we already kind of talked
about a secret tunnel. I guess they were. Well, one
is to like for the human trafficking aspect, which we
already talked about how many go missing or whatever. But
there it's also maybe to shuffle out people who die
(16:31):
at the park, because you're apparently you're not allowed to
die at Disney.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Disney doesn't give you permission to die.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's one of the they will not declare you deceased
on a Disney property. That's one of the really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well, so the tunnels are definitely one hundred percent real
because they use those for the actors.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh okay, yeah, that's right, all the employees and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Without yeah, without impeding any sort of crowdflow or stuff
like that. Right, So there are definitely passageways that are
used for by Disney employees.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And the docks and stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, So it wouldn't be surprising to me if somebody
did go missing and it was some sort of nefarious
trafficking ring that those would be used. Yeah, because it'd
be easy. Nobody would know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Right, well, and so many people visit and everything. I mean,
but you'd think if you go on a family trip
to Disney and then someone gets missing, like one person
of your family, you're not gonna stop talking.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
About it though, Oh that's true.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know. I mean I'm sure they can, you know,
make sure it doesn't show up online or something maybe,
but well, or but you'd be talking to your neighbors.
I mean I feel like word would get out.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You would think it would that. Yeah, you know, my
kid disappeared and I can't find them, and Disney's not
helping me. Do like you would definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Hear, well, yeah, Disney's not helping at all. I mean,
maybe they are helping and just stringing them along.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If they're or maybe they're taking the whole family.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The whole family goes missing.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
They just put a mark.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But then you think people back home.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Maybe still, well, but where do they disappear at. Do
they know for a fact they disappeared at Disney World,
Now they were just on a trip to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, well unless they post pictures that they're there, I
don't know, yeah, or an adult. Maybe they go after
the Disney adults that go alone or something the weird
no one will miss them, right, I don't know. I
feel like you don't usually go alone to Disney, so
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I would think of someone.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, it would be very odd to go by yourself
to a theme park like that, even a theme park
like this, like Holiday Will, would be very odd to
go by by yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean people do it, I'm sure, but I'd feel
a little sad.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Nobody likes me.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's just not as enjoy to go alone.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, Like not that I'm sad about it or depressed
or whatever, but like just to go to a thing.
It's like, Okay, I spent an hour, and I spent
this much money and drove all the way here, and now.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Now I'm just getting beat up in the way fool
by myself.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't know, but yeah, I guess I don't know.
Some employees have said, yeah, you're not allowed to be
declared to cease at the parks. You could be transported
to a different Disney location, but not the actual theme parks.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I mean I get that from like maybe a
pr standpoint of where they don't want any like crazy
thing to be documented at the park. Like you don't
want to ever like even like if somebody were to
get injured, Yeah, you don't even want that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But there are I mean, people have gone injured on
the rides and that's been.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Public true, but it's never been like, you know, what's
the best way to say this. It's always been like
an acceptable injury. It's never been like like, oh my god,
this person got to captate on a roller coaster. Yeah,
because of Nicel Genser, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
No, they haven't had that. So yeah, they transport those
out first, clean up the coaster.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Everybody, shut the fuck up. Here's an NDA nobody can
talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Everyone gets pretty Disney for a year. I mean, free
fast passes. I don't know, you remember that one Oh
my god, that scared me so much that one ride
when we went and I was little, and we had
fast passes and it still took forever. The one that
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the wall comes up, oh yeah, yeah whatever, and we
were waiting so long, even though we had a fast pass,
and was like, what is going on? And you guys
were like, oh, maybe the world come up. And I
was like, because it did take so long even that,
and we had ridden it already and we had gone
through really fast, but then that took. I don't know why.
(21:12):
Maybe someone threw up or something.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Maybe you scared that the wall was going to I
was like.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Eight, so I guess, and I mean, I don't know
how long we actually waited, but it felt like an
hour at least.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I remember it was pretty long.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So I was like, oh my god, what if this
wall doesn't come up?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And I.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Mean I still went on it, but yeah, when that
part came up, I was like, oh my god, we're
about to die.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We'd have been a non statistic and Disney World.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, we would have been disappeared. Okay, Well, so that
Walt Disney being frozen.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, that's pretty common.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I feel like a lot of Yeah, that's very common.
But people are thinking that one of those islands maybe
holds him. Oh, so yeah, guarded, but then why both
why would both be I don't know, it's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, just to throw people off, yeah island. Yeah, well,
it's kind of like it's kind of like Area fifty one,
like what you see from the surface is most likely
just the tip of the iceberg of what actually is there.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, they probably have like ten levels round or something.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right, so it could be something similar to that of
like a almost like a deflection of you know, perception
of like oh yeah, maybe it could be here.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But right, well, there's lots of places people say it is, right,
but I don't know. I didn't hear like at least
his head is frozen. Yeah, I just think it's his
whole body about the theory, but.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I've heard some weird things about that because it's always
been like it's it's pieces of him, or it's his brain,
or it's his head, or it's his whole Like. My
thing is, if he was actually frozen at the time
of his death, he probably would have rosen himself solid.
I'm thinking, like it wouldn't have been like oh no,
(23:04):
in the future, just have my brain and just put
me in a new body, you know, yeah, right, or
just have the head and the jar or whatever, you know.
But no, it would have been it would have been
freeze my entire body, and he wouldn't have no concept
of like how much damage that actually does to your tissue? Right,
if that is truly what happened to mister Walt Disney alleged.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Right, Well, he was a science fiction fan, like super
into future whatever technology.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And yeah, I mean that was the time too, that's true.
You know, that was like the space Age, and people
were really excited about They thought in the year two thousand,
we'd be flying around like the Jetsons and stuff, you know,
and here we are twenty twenty five and still, you know, barely.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Have cars drive themselves. Yeah. I guess, well, because EPCOT
was all about that and stuff. I didn't know EPCOT
standard for something.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It's an acronym.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't know, it's Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It was literally supposed to be like this is how
Americans will live in the future. I mean it was changed,
I guess, like his brother something totally changed the idea
of it later. But it was supposed to be like
this is America in the future, or whatever. I don't know.
I think the only thing I know of epcots that
isn't that the Small World ride or whatever. I think, yeah,
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that's the only thing I know. And I think the
drinks around the world. I think is there at the
Disney World. Yeah, but yeah, I guess he had lung cancer,
which I didn't know he was like sick like that,
But so I think he well, he was obsessed with
the idea of being frozen, and I guess he talked
to some like president of the Cryogenic Society of la
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or something like. He talked to him like a month
before he ended up dying. Okay, so maybe he was
investigating if it was possible or like, you know whatever,
because he was probably thinking, like, in the future, I
could be unfrozen and they'll have the cure to this cancer,
or they'll be able to.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Just give me two new lungs.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, plus he had the money.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Why not just for I mean, who cares if you're
going to die anyway?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I mean that that is an
interesting like thought experiment, especially for someone like him that
probably wanted to be immortalized in some way spe or form. That,
and like you said, what difference would a few you know,
tens of thousands of dollars make just to be frozen
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if you're going to die anyway? So one of two
things are going to happen. Either it's going to work
or it's not right. You got way too much money
to even worry about it, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, And like the thing that goes with that theory too,
is that well, whether it's true or not, Disney was
tired of everyone searching, so they made the movie Frozen,
like they titled it for that specifically. So when you
google it, you come up with the Disney. Yeah, right,
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but you can't, I mean, you can't put cryogenically and
it's it'll come up still.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh you can still find it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, but like most people, you're just gonna say Frozen
and that'll be all the movie stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's an interesting that's see. That's the one thing I
do admire about Disney is their pr is on point.
As far as their actual well, I guess it wouldn't
even I guess I could call it pepe. Like the
public perceptions.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Like what is the stambor? Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I had I had a good one for it. I
just had to you know, I had to get there first. Yes, No,
they do have like a super solid team that like
really pushes a lot of public perception of the company, right,
Like there's it's really hard to find something bad that
came from Disney. Yeah, like actual from Disney. Like you
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can look up stuff that people say bad about Disney, right,
but from the actual company itself. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, no, that's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean the next movie is going to be Dark
Tunnel or something, so you can't her secret tunnel. If
that happens, then it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Is true the tunnel trafficking.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah something, so it's a movie instead of looking up that.
People also think his body is stored under the Pirates
of the Caribbean Fried Yeah, I have for that at Disneyland,
like in California.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, I don't know why why that one. I don't
really know. I know they had real bones for as
the when the ride first opened or something, ye as
the decorations, it was real.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah. Well, crazy fact about the human remains, saying it
is not like illegal to like obtain sell yeah and
do anything with human remains as long as it's not
Native American I think in the United States that's about it.
But like like there was this crazy story about like
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people in like World War two that were like sending
home like human skulls and stuff. And it's not illegal.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
From the battles. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know that. Well,
they said like one of the universities donated it or something.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh that's what I'm saying though, like they can freely distribute.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, but I think the public still that's one thing
that they were like, no, like they've replaced it now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I mean that's allegedly.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well yeah, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well that is that does like it's definitely really morbid
to think about, Like, oh yeah, I'm on this ride
and I'm seeing all this.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Washed amusement park. It seems a little like you know,
you go to the catacombs in France and it's like, okay,
I know where, but at an amusement park, the hapviest place.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That was like I don't know, hey, it's super happy
and even the dead people are happy because they're imortalized
in the Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, I mean I would be okay with it, but
these people, you know, for the university. They donate it
for science and then to end up at a Disneyland amusements. Yeah. So,
I mean that's kind of what I have. I have
a ghost one, but I guess I don't. I think
it's been twenty minutes. Maybe you're fine if we want it.
(29:37):
There's not much on the ghost There were a lot
of ghost ones. I mean his house, I guess is
in part of the Disneyland complex.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
In Califoria, California.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yea, so people say that he's there, Well, that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Would make sense if you do believe in the spirit
world and stuff like that, that would totally make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, because while people say they see a shadow in
the window.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Him holding Mickey's hand and stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, well, Mickey, I guess could be in the if
you make your own affort after life he's living.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
In it's a demon portrayed itself as Mickey Mouse. I
mean that trafficking all the humans through the secrets and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I know. There was like a lady maybe I guess
she was a worker, like cleaning that house or something.
I don't know. She was in there for some reason
and there was like a light on and she turned
it off and she heard behind her say someone say,
I'm not done with that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Cool, I'm out. Yeah I'm not. I'm not gonna sit
here and argue with you disembodied voice.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean i'd be like, oh, yeah, you are done.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh yeah, you're gonna tell the ghosts that you're done Disney.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ye. Yeah, I guess that's your employers. Well technically, yes, sir,
you're not done yet. Yeah. But mister one Way, have
you heard that? That's like super popular. I guess this
is the last ghost. It's on Space Mountain in California.
I guess I was thinking the one in Disney World. Okay,
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but mister one Way, so the idea, I mean, it's
like an urban legend, I guess more. But they say
it's a ghost. But there was like they caught on
camera a long time ago, like maybe not a long
time ago, since they have cameras, but sidearg anyway, they
caught someone going in to the ride and not never
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coming back out. So they call him mister one Way then,
because you know, they never saw him come back out.
But people are saying maybe he died somehow in the yeah,
like maybe he went, you know, to a place you
shouldn't go or or yeah, and it's all dark, I mean,
or maybe he committed suicide or something, but he never
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came back out. So now people are saying on that ride,
like they'll get on and there'll be someone already like
or they'll there'll be someone coming from the other side
onto the ride like with you, like sit down next
to you or whatever that and then would you get
off the right because you can't see anything, but when
you get off the ride, that person will be gone.
(32:20):
So it's like this guy, Yeah, what would you do
ship myself? Do they take pictures on them one?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I think they know maybe it's the Tower of
Terror that Yeah, I can't remember if they do on
Space Mountain or not. Listeners let us know in the
Collins Blow if they do, because I honestly cannot remember.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, it's been a long time since. Well I've never
been to the California one.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Noah, neither.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But they said too, I mean there's another legend or
whatever with him that they he'll be like holding on
to the side instead of in the seat.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
See that's even that. That is so much worse. If
I'm riding a roller coaster in the dark and I
get like flashed the light and I just see somebody
just help.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He's just he's just you know, having fun himself, freaking
you out.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To be fair, if I was a ghost at an
amusement park, I would one want to be scaring the
ship out.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Of people, or like on the tower chair or something.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, it starts to drop, be like whoa gonna die
and just float away. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, but those are kind of because they also say,
you know, it looks like maybe a regular dude. But
then one of the virsins I saw said he looks
like really gaunt or like, yeah, so I feel like
it's more an urban legend since there's so many variations
on it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
But or maybe he just likes to change up his fit.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I mean, yeah, if he's a ghost, he can like
whatever he wants, I guess. So yeah, yeah, that's the
big ones I found.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, I think everybody, like I said, knows about and
the conspiracies. There's way too many. We could probably do
five six episodes on just Disney by itself, right, But
since we are in Holiday World and the famous Santa
Claus Indiana for the week, I wanted to do a
theme park themed episode and I made a joke about
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doing Santa Claus, Indiana and Holiday World, fully expecting I
would not find anything at all. I found the most
crazy shit I think I've ever fucking heard about a
fucking theme park. Now, granted, some of these are one
just poking fun, oh yeah, but there's a few that
are pretty wild. So we'll get into it. And like
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I said, I apologize. I have my laptop and that
normally is out of view from you guys, but today
that'll work just fine. We can get it like this.
So I have a couple of different ones. The first one,
this one is kind of a little terrifying. Okay, Santa
Claus is always watching. We'd all know, you know the
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y Yeah, sees you when you're sleeping and knows when
you're awake.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, knows if you've been bad or good, so it'd
be good for goodness sake that whole ship. The theory
is the town is a front for a massive surveillance program, okay, supposedly,
and we're going to get some eyewitness testimony hopefully while
we're here. Locals whisper that the town theme is just
a festive cover. The Santa Claus Post Office processes thousands
(35:31):
of letters each year, which are secretly being used by
the government to profile children and adults for psychological studies.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Hmmm, I mean I could see that well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And see that's the part like like once again poking
fun at the whole, you know, little Christmas song about
kids being good for whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
For goodness, like although it's because he's.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Watching you, right, but there is some related to this.
There was a gentleman that lived here that would write children.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, right, So you started as post office workers.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It was post office. It started off with a single gentleman,
but then it kind of started to you know, escalate
as as more people started writing it and doing stuff
like that. So it is kind of it's one of
those things that like freaks me out because it's like
every person that I meet that like works here that like,
you know, even like we were talking about the candy
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shop owner, this guy is way too extra. We're gonna
try to get very nice, very nice, very nice, very energetic,
the most energetic I've ever seen, you know, and granted.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Him last year like that, but maybe he wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know, I think, yeah, I don't know. Granted,
he works at a candy shop. So he's you know,
just you.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Know, always having that frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It is very good.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
But it is interesting because, like thinking about it from
that side of it, because the government has done shitty
things about spying on people gathering information, which letters maybe
not so much anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Would be pretty hard to like aggregate together unless they
scan it somehow and like with.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
AI maybe your well but yeah, that wouldn't be that
hard to do though, well now it wouldn't, but before
before then you just have like a department of compartmentalized
people that just compile.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Copy of like transcribe everything. Yeah, well that's true. I
mean how many letters do they get we need to
ask that we got to get.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, according according to what I've what I've researched, it
says the process thousands of letters a year, So I
mean it's not like a substantial amount, but it's definitely
enough to get a good case study of you know,
psychological behavior.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
That's crazy. I mean they could even just sell that
to like corporations. Well that I see other thing too, Yeah,
but it's like, oh, this is really asked for than
Yeah the Barbie.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Hey, wal Mart guess what you guys need to run sales.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Right, Yeah, so yeah they would buy that.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Ye, any major company would. Here's one that I thought
was really interesting. Alien visitors help power Holiday World?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Help power it? How do they power it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
The theory is the theme park Holiday World Splash Safari
is powered by alien tech. Locals report strange lights over
the park at night, and it is rumored that the
g force on some of the rides is a little
too advanced for earthly technology.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What what ride the thunderbird? That's the only one.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Some believe that the visit aliens visit annually disguised as
tourists and TACKI Christmas sweaters. Here's the one that I
this is definitely just poking fun.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, are they mistaking the drone show?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Most likely? So I do want to talk to some
of the locals though about Yeah, because I have heard
of especially out in rural areas such as where we are.
There is literally nothing around Santa Claus, Indiana. Like the
nearest town is what like, wud you say thirty minutes
real time?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean Jasper, But I wouldn't say that's maybe it's
a town.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Like I mean Evansville probably, but or Owensboro, Kentucky is
pretty big.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
But I mean like it's it's literally very isolated.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
At ye, like when you get soy beans.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So that there is a lot of paranormal alien sort
of sightings that happen out in these types of areas.
So now the whole power about alien tech. No, most
of these are coasters are super rad like Thunderbird awesome. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
But I can't believe they would say the G forces
too much obviously.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They've never been to six Flags, have never been to
Cedar Points Point.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Come on, man, because most of them are like Wooden too.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, so you're just getting beat up, yeah more than anything.
So No, but like I said, some of these are
just poking fun.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I thought that one was one to kind of have
in there, the Eternal Christmas Candle cult.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, I am interested about that.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
This one I couldn't find. I could find just enough
information on just to see that it might exist. But
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Design Maybe.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So the theory is that there is a secret worship
of a never extinguishing Christmas candle here.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Well, I mean, you know, I could see that creating
a religion.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, and it's supposedly located deep beneath the Santa Claus
Museum and village, which.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
We have not till we've never gone there.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
So I think we're going to I think we need
to go there.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
People want to go tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah. The candle supposedly has been burning since the eighteen hundreds.
I couldn't find like an.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Actual date eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, so we're talking hundreds of years. Yeah at this point.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh wow, how big is this candle? I don't know,
or just it never melt.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But supposedly the cult is called the Keepers of the
Flame or the Eternal Christmas Candle colt or the Eternal
Candle Cult.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I like the Keepers of the Flame, Keepers of the.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Flame sounds rats cool, right, I kind of want to
be part of it, right yeap, But pretty much like
what I could tell, I couldn't find a whole lot
on this colt. But apparently this candle, allegedly, if it exists,
is what keeps like a lot of goodness in the world.
So this cult's not like either. Yeah, and if it
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happens to go out or too many people find out
about it, the world will descend into chaos.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Oh wow, we better not investigate them.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I want to. I want to be a keeper of
the flame.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Give me match, give me a part of the flame.
It reminds me of like Avatar the luster right with
the dragons, like they had the flame or whatever. You young.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Well, and that's one of those things where it's like,
at first I thought it was supposed to be like
some evil, crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
It is, because I will say, everybody you do meet
down here from you know, the guys that run the
gas stations, the liquor stores are liquor store the singular.
I mean, hell, even the subway that's out here. Everybody
is the nicest person you could ever talk to. Like,
I don't think I've ever had like a bad encounter
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with anybody working at Holiday World, anybody that works around
Holiday World. Like everybody's super nice, super friendly.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Maybe maybe everyone's in a that's what I'm saying, But
if it's for good, Yeah, I mean it's hard to
live in Santa Claus, Indiana without being jolly, Like.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
It's a mandatory feeling. You have to have it. If
you can't, you don't live here.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Well, you got to be really in the Christmas too,
But I.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Get I'm not really into Christmas. And I'm telling you,
I get about all Christmas out I can when I
get here, and I don't even.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Do shit well Christmas in July. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Now this is funny, and I thought it was good
because you were doing Walt Disney supposedly allegedly whatever we
want to use to describe this. Santa Claus has a cryogenic.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Slab, like he's experimenting with.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Santa Claus. Indiana is a secret location of a cryogenic
storage facility.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh, Walt Disney's here, That's what I'm saying. Well, what
better way to throw them off than put them in
different theme parks?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And see what I think is really wild is they
say the original quote unquote Santa. They always have it
in quotations. They never just say Santa Claus, right, didn't die,
he was frozen.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I thought Santa was a magical being that lives forever.
Are we talking about Saint Nicholas? I don't know they
took it from German? Well, Jasper is German.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
That's exactly what I was about saying, Yeah, so you
have you have the lore of Nicholas in Germany, like
it's so fucking crazy anywhere. So the town exists to
protect this legacy, using festive joy to distract from the
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highly classified Deep free Froze Deep Freeze Lab hidden in
the nearby woods, which there are woods literally right across
the street from Holiday World.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah. Do you think we are allowed to investigate?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
We would get arrested. Is that part I mean, is
that part of the park?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
No, I don't think it is. There's also a state
forest like between here and JASP.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, well, and that's public land.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Is it all public land? Though I know there's no
way you could possibly know.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Wait, when did Santa Claus become a city town whatever?
I should have looked that up.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Well, so here's the interesting thing. I don't know exactly
when it was, But Santa Claus was not the original
name of the city. Oh really, it was Santa Fe.
But it was Santa Fee, not like f E f F.
I guess would be the best.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It could still be Fay, but that's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
And for some reason they couldn't get the whatever regulation
was in place about naming the city with the post
office that was currently here, it wouldn't go through, and
then for no apparent reason, out of nowhere, like years later,
they named it Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, that was weird. That's when the Crown genics led.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well, especially with Jasper being a German.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Town, right, they are very a German town like this,
I'm just saying, I mean German Fest next week.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah see.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And like I said, like most of this like you
see it and you like want to poke fun at it,
but when you like really start looking into it, it's like, yeah,
this is a little too weird, right right, Like it's
something like nefarious, it's something crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
No, yeah, but something's there for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, I do want to check this out too. So
there is a bell that controls time here, allegedly atop
the Santa Claus Church is a time control device. Locals
claim that time moves slower around it really supposedly, oh
but it especially moves slower during the winter.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Months to make it longer for the Santa Claus time.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
If the bell is wrong in a certain pattern, it
allegedly shifts the perception of time to keep you kind
of in like almost an endless loop.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Really supposedly, that's crazy allegedly like groundhog Day or not
that bad, well, not.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
That bad, but I think it's to to extend like
the holiday season, right of it.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, it hypnotizes you right, feel longer.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Because it doesn't say it actually does it. It says
time is perceived.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
It feels like right there.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So I don't think it's like an actual like if
it does exist. I don't think it's like a time
control device. I think it's a human perception control control
or shifting or or something crazy like weird.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That's in the town right, not in the park.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, so that is the Santa Claus Church, which is
right over by the.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
The muse Museum.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I believe, Oh, because there's a church right there, or
it's right or it's the one right up here by
the police.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I think it might be the one by the police station.
That's weird. Yeah, we need to go over there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So I mean it's just right down the road. Well yeah, everything, Wow,
everything is just right down the road. Listeners, you can
hear they're currently celebrating fireworks like they do every show.
Last This one is kind of like Poking's File a
little bit, but it it kind of harps back to
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what we were talking about in the Disney World thing.
It's like trafficking. Okay, so apparently there are quote unquote
elve labor violations like the elks for.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
So stas el are apparently real and they all live here.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
And they're being hidden. But every time they say elves,
once again, everything's in quotation, So that leads me to
believe that it's not not physically talking about Santa clauses elves. Right,
So supposedly there is underground networks of tunnel. I'm telling you,
there's always tunnels.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
It's said to house these real life quote unquote elves.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They take people from the park and make them slave
labor or for Santa's workshops.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Oh no, but the most of that that I found
on that was much bullshit. They were talking about elves
and all that. But what I did think was interesting
where there are definitely documented cases that people have seen
entrances to tunnels. Really yeah, in the park towards the
back where like good gravy and stuff like that are ye,
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if you guys don't gravy is a great rod, it's not.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Tunnels. Well, they have gates because they have part of
more of the park. But I haven't seen tunnels.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Have you ever looked though?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
No, you should talk about this before we went tickets
tickets now, yeah, we can look next year.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
No, but it would make sense to be able to
have tunnels because like, like, for instance, not to get
too much in for the listeners, but I had to
make an abrupt, you know, exit from holiday World this year,
and the way that we got taken up front was
through these back trails.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Okay, but not tunnels.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
No, but there there were like offshoots going everywhere.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of gate gated areas
and stuff. I'm sure employees because it's so hilly too
like to get back.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, but how easy would it be to dig tunnels
into those hounds? That's true, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Right, And then make an elevator to the entrance so
you don't have to walk. They should open these up
for after the drum show, because you got to walk
all the way back and it's it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's paining the ass. That's why, listeners, if you ever
go to Holiday World and you want to ride some
awesome rides, first go all the way to the back
where the Thunderbirds at and you can make your way
back up to the front.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, and you can see the drone show from the road.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, just dive over there. There's no point to walking
all the way back there, because now we're just getting
congested in a group of supposedly elves and aliens and
god knows what else. And if you're in a large group,
it'd be too easy for someone to a statue with
one of those tunnels. The next thing you know, you're
getting paid in peppermint and candy canes, and.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
I mean people, you could take someone in that. If
anyone fell, you would be trampled. So it is a
little scary.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah. I don't like large groups of people and that
freaks me the fun.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And it's night time too, it's dark by then.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's what I got for Holiday World.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Nice. Okay, Well, I do want to say, you know,
Santa Claus is a real place for the people, because
we didn't really say that the beginning. This is real,
this is a real place. We're here.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, like I said, from the short term or from
the short form stuff you're going to have seen probably already.
This is a real, actual place. We're going to try
to get some hopefully some Santa Claus PD people to
come on camera. I don't know if that's going to
happen or not. We haven't asked.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
We should talk to the post office.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
The post office for sure, we'll get pictures, videos, all
that stuff. So this is one hundred percent of real place.
If you look up Santa Claus, Indiana, it is one
hundred percent of real place. And Sarah and I be
here right now.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Right, so yeah, And if you write a lett of
Santa with no address, it does go here.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
It does go here.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
So maybe don't send it if you don't want to
get you're going to.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Be psychologically profiled and screened. Do not do that.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
So it's still fun.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, but address it to the North Pole. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Do you think there's a place.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Up there, like a physical land.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Body tunnel underground every day underground the water, there's another
Santa station.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, maybe maybe, I don't know, but listeners, that's going
to wrap it up. Like I said, kind of a
different format. Obviously, Sarah and I are not ever usually
in person together, so this is kind of a unique
first experience for both of us. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
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The Paranoid Perspective. I'm Jake and you can tell this
is quite the difference application. We are currently on vacation
as you saw from some of the short form content
at the Lovely Holiday World in Santa Claus, Indiana, So
we figured, even though we're on vacation, we're still going
to work. We're still going to provide some content for
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you guys and Sarah. We're gonna do theme park related craziness.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, yep, I'm gonna do Disney. I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Believe it or not, Holiday World apparently has a bunch
of craziness, so we're going to get into it. So
we'll start off with the Disney. That's probably stuff that
everybody's going to know to begin with. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, well I didn't know. Yeah, I don't pay that
much attention. But okay, Disney. Do you know Discovery Island
at Disney World. I guess in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right me neither. It's eleven and a half acres, Okay,
so pretty big. It was originally Treasure Island.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But okay, that's what I was going to say. I
was thinking I was getting confused with that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, but now it's totally closed, like totally cordoned off,
like not even employees can go over there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Really.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so originally it was for exotic birds. I guess,
like it was really I don't know. Some people thought
it was kind of lame compared to other stuff. Well,
I mean, but it started in well, I think I
don't know when it was open, like nineteen eighty nine.
I think early nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, so before a little just just a tiny bit
before our time.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, But then they had sixteen charges of animal cruelty.
Oh that's always good for the birds, I guess, and
they had like vultures, like a vulture issue. They end
up killing vultures because they were eating the exact birds,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I guess that are vultures scavengers.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, that's true, so the birds already dead before maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well I think maybe they had vultures. That's not exotic
birds though, But they were charged with animal cruelty sixteen counts,
and it said like maybe for the way they treated
the vultures. I don't know if they were already there
or they just were in the area, right and whatever,
But yeah, some of them died, and obviously later they
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got the charges taken off because Disney they have lawyers,
lots lots of good they have a lot of resources.
But then so they closed it in April eighth, nineteen
ninety nine. So no, so I guess it was twenty
five years after it was opened. So it had opened.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Twenty five years, sixteen counts of you know, animal cruelty.
It's not a bad record.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah. Well they never officially stated why they closed it.
They just closed it, which I don't know. I guess
they don't have to say why. But the Animal Kingdom
had just opened as well, so some people said, you know,
they only had exotic birds there. It's hard to get
to because you have to take like a fairy thing
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because it's an island. So people are saying they just
closed it because they had a better park open.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ah, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, but now it's abandoned and it's in ruins and
like you know, nature's completely overtaken it. But it's still
part of the property. Okay, they haven't done anything with it.
It's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh but if it's hard to get to, I mean
I wouldn't imagine that it would be.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, yeah, it's an island, but you could have boat
services and I mean it's eleven and a half acre.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
What are they doing with them?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They're not doing anything with it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
There's nothing there apparently allegedly nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
What's really weird about it is that it's heavily.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Guarded, so there is something going on there.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, but what that's the theory? Yeah, Lake Patrol heavily
guards it, like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And I'm assuming this is like Disney security that is
patrolling this or is it?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I said Lake Patrol? So I guess I assume it's
Disney related though, like they're hiring maybe like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Private contractors or something or a private company. Okay, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I guess there's a lot of high tech cameras
too to catch anything.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Do you think they have a total system over there.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that is part of the theory too. Have you
heard of that?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, definitely, But like that would make sense because if
it's if it's challenging to get like normal you know,
customers of Disney World or theme park attendee is to
get from A to B, I would assume it'd be like,
oh cool, well we could just transfer under water. Yeah
everything we need?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, good, But like apparently it's overrun by nature, like
there's nothing there, so why is it being patrolled twenty
four seven?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And well it could be if they do have tunnels,
they don't want people getting on the island sneaking across
the other secret alleged Disney World.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, the underground, Disney Disney Underground.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Forget Disney on Ice, everybody, We're going to Disney Underground,
way more edgy and cool.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, some people do think Walt Disney's body is there,
if he's frozen, which I'll talk a little bit about later,
but that maybe it's held there. But I mean people
also say, well, they say there's a bacteria there that
if people got it, they would spread it like a
pandemic somehow, I don't know, Like some I don't know
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if they're going as far as saying it's a bioweapon,
but maybe something has there because it's cordoned off.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Disney bio weapons. Yeah, what makes everybody way too happy?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Right? Well, I mean I don't know if you've heard
of like the human trafficking theory.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
From Disney World. Yeah, no, I have not heard of that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I guess people say, I don't know. They say
that they think that so many people go missing and
there's not stabs on it. Really that they think that
Disney's holding people for sex trafficking or human trafficking, and
they could be holding them at this island.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
With the tunnels are part of it too, I guess
to transport them.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And well we all know what rich people in islands
like to do, so yeah, so I mean that is wild. Yeah,
I mean I wouldn't put it past them too, especially
down in Florida, Like it would be easy to kind
of navigate, especially if they have tunnels and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well yeah, that's true. Why yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It'd be too easy to move anything.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right, Well yeah, drugs, like yeah, yeah, maybe that's where
they have the stash or something.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's where hey, we just cracked it. That's where Disney
gets all their money. They're actually smuggling coke.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean I found that like two thousand
children a year ago missing from all theme parks in
the US. I don't know if it's like, you know,
they're lost a little bit and then they find them,
oh okay, like if it's actually missing, like lost forever,
or just they lost them for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I was about to say, that's that's really terrifying. If
it is like no ship, they just disappear from theme parks, right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now there has to be some percentage.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well sure, absolutely, but two thousand a year.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's like, well from all the theme parks, but I
mean everything. Yeah, I doubt it's like they actually are
never found again.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I will tell you that I got lost
to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, when you went with our aunt yep, the first time.
I guess when I wasn't there, Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I wandered off and quickly realized, oh shit, I don't
know anybody around me.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh yep, weren't you like eight or something?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I was really young?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, well what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh, I mean it was like I wanted around, found
somebody that works there, and within I don't know, twenty
minutes found, but that twenty minutes is like a young child. Yeah,
seemed like forever.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Right, and you're never going to be found again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And me being dumb in whatever, I remember telling the
worker it's like my cousin and my aunt. That's all
I would say.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's like, okay, a little more or yeah, the name,
and I remember I remember my cousin was wearing a
cowboy hat, and that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said, my cousin's wearing the most scriptive answer you
could find right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh my god. Well, it's like it's like the story
that they said that yesterday that they helped old old
lady or a late not old lady. But the lady
was like, I don't know where my husband and son are.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Did I miss that? Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, they were saying that. She just said the husband
was wearing shark swim trunks.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, like the guy in the swim trunks.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, can he give me a little more and he's
maybe overweight.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Maybe yeah, Like Okay, we live in America where most
men of a certain age mildly overweight, if not heavily.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, so well those are adults though giving that kind
of information, you're a child saying just cowboy at But
that's good they found out. You're probably part of the
statistic then it's probably stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I've always wanted to be part of statistics. Well yeah,
like fun statistics, not boring ones.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, Yeah, so where's my spot? Okay, So April thirtieth,
twenty twenty, I guess there's a guy on YouTube that
snuck on the island and he set up camp on
Discovery Island. Like he set up a camp somehow, like
a tent to like camp out and stuff, and he
was like arrested, like he was found and arrested and
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then he was banned from all Disney properties forever.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, that that seems a bit extreme. Now now I
can get like if they trespassed him, Yeah, from like
Disney World, that would make sense because he broke onto
the property, right, did that?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, all of them?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But for life well, But at the same time, Disney
does have like a conglomerate of like if he does
something done like that, I could possibly see that reasoning
of well, we don't want you on any of our property.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, he might do something else, but.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean that seems a bit extreme.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and for life not I mean do five years.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know, break in for another five years.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean that's like the first defense mate. I mean,
I don't know him or anything, but it's a little extreme. Yeah.
And he said that the island was like a tropical paradise,
like it didn't seem I mean, maybe it was overrun
by nature still, but he was like, this is amazing.
So it's it's all weird. And then River Country, I
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guess is Neighbor's Discovery Island. So it's another like island,
and it was the water park. I guess that they
had first. Oh, I had never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I've never heard of that either.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It opened June twentieth, nineteen seventy six, so yeah, yeah,
it's pretty a long time ago for us. But several
they had several deaths, you know, over the years because
I guess the way they kind of set it up
was the bay fed the water part, but they had
some kind of system that like filtered it out so
(12:57):
that way, like by here and stuff isn't like it's
supposed to be clean, oh and stuff. But they did
have like flesh eating amibas still.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
As an issue solid.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean, it's Florida too, like, so they had some
of those issues and people died from that, and then
they also had a couple drownings.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think, wow, that's to be expected.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, but they shut it down in two thousand and one,
so a year after Discovery Island, And they also didn't
give a reason for that either to shut it down.
And it's also heavily guarded as well, kind of they
probably patrol both.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah. I mean, if they're neighboring islands, I would assume
it'd probably be.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, so that's a little weird. So those are two
pro I don't know how big River Country was. I
didn't find that, but the first one is eleven and
a half. I think River Country is a little smaller.
That's a lot of property to not do anything with.
And you know that was twenty five years ago that they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Shut down just to let nature take over. Yeah over?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What are you doing there?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But still patrol it for some reason? Right? Huh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And I guess another set of YouTubers snuck onto River Country.
They didn't get caught, but they said that the theme
music was still playing. What Yeah, but really they said
twenty four seven. I guess I don't know how long
they stayed there to know that, but they said that
theme music was still playing and that the lights turned
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on at night really like on automatic timers.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But why would they still pay for it?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Why would they still have That doesn't make any sense? Right? Cool?
So not only do we need to investigate a million
Earhart's possible landing site, now we need to go to
River Country. Yeah, listeners, if you want, if you want
to help set up a we're going to set up
a go fund me to go do this not really well.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
That that'll be more attainable though than a million, that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We could just drive there and then just get a boat.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But well, and then we'll get arrested and then we'll
be banned from all the problems.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh no, I cannot imagine what I would do if
I could never go back to a Disney resort.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I want to go to the Tokyo Disney, the Sea
Disney c I never went there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's the only one they're really going to pay attention
halfway around the world.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I mean, you know, it's Disney. They probably they hold
a grudge too too. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They'll have your picture plastered everywhere, not welcome.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah. So it's a little weird though, Yeah, that they
still power.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And everything, Yeah, that is really weird. And theme music,
I think that part might be a little I think
that might be a little over embellished. But the power,
the power thing, I guess could be realistic, because I mean,
if they just abruptly abandoned it, they might not have
turned anything off. But at the same time, that doesn't
make twenty five years, That's what I'm saying. It makes sense,
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And I know Disney makes a lot of money. But
I would think to power for at least what ten
hours a day to have lights on R Like, that's
an expense you would notice.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That is weird.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's very weird. Well, and I mean there are YouTubers.
I assume there's video, but they could put the theme
music over right. I mean, you don't really know, but no,
I guess I did put how many it's twenty acres
total for both.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Oh wow, so yeah they're almost the same size.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so we already kind of talked
about a secret tunnel. I guess they were. Well, one
is to like for the human trafficking aspect, which we
already talked about how many go missing or whatever. But
there it's also maybe to shuffle out people who die
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at the park, because you're apparently you're not allowed to
die at Disney.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Disney doesn't give you permission to die.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's one of the they will not declare you deceased
on a Disney property. That's one of the really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well, so the tunnels are definitely one hundred percent real
because they use those for the actors.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh okay, yeah, that's right, all the employees and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Without yeah, without impeding any sort of crowdflow or stuff
like that. Right, So there are definitely passageways that are
used for by Disney employees.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And the docks and stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, So it wouldn't be surprising to me if somebody
did go missing and it was some sort of nefarious
trafficking ring that those would be used. Yeah, because it'd
be easy. Nobody would know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Right, well, and so many people visit and everything. I mean,
but you'd think if you go on a family trip
to Disney and then someone gets missing, like one person
of your family, you're not gonna stop talking.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
About it though, Oh that's true.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I don't know. I mean I'm sure they can, you know,
make sure it doesn't show up online or something maybe,
but well, or but you'd be talking to your neighbors.
I mean I feel like word would get out.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You would think it would that. Yeah, you know, my
kid disappeared and I can't find them, and Disney's not
helping me. Do like you would definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Hear, well, yeah, Disney's not helping at all. I mean,
maybe they are helping and just stringing them along.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If they're or maybe they're taking the whole family.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The whole family goes missing.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
They just put a mark.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But then you think people back home.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Maybe still, well, but where do they disappear at. Do
they know for a fact they disappeared at Disney World,
Now they were just on a trip to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, well unless they post pictures that they're there, I
don't know, yeah, or an adult. Maybe they go after
the Disney adults that go alone or something the weird
no one will miss them, right, I don't know. I
feel like you don't usually go alone to Disney, so
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I would think of someone.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, it would be very odd to go by yourself
to a theme park like that, even a theme park
like this, like Holiday Will, would be very odd to
go by by yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean people do it, I'm sure, but I'd feel
a little sad.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Nobody likes me.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's just not as enjoy to go alone.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, Like not that I'm sad about it or depressed
or whatever, but like just to go to a thing.
It's like, Okay, I spent an hour, and I spent
this much money and drove all the way here, and now.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Now I'm just getting beat up in the way fool
by myself.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't know, but yeah, I guess I don't know.
Some employees have said, yeah, you're not allowed to be
declared to cease at the parks. You could be transported
to a different Disney location, but not the actual theme parks.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I mean I get that from like maybe a
pr standpoint of where they don't want any like crazy
thing to be documented at the park. Like you don't
want to ever like even like if somebody were to
get injured, Yeah, you don't even want that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But there are I mean, people have gone injured on
the rides and that's been.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Public true, but it's never been like, you know, what's
the best way to say this. It's always been like
an acceptable injury. It's never been like like, oh my god,
this person got to captate on a roller coaster. Yeah,
because of Nicel Genser, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
No, they haven't had that. So yeah, they transport those
out first, clean up the coaster.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Everybody, shut the fuck up. Here's an NDA nobody can
talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Everyone gets pretty Disney for a year. I mean, free
fast passes. I don't know, you remember that one Oh
my god, that scared me so much that one ride
when we went and I was little, and we had
fast passes and it still took forever. The one that
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the wall comes up, oh yeah, yeah whatever, and we
were waiting so long, even though we had a fast pass,
and was like, what is going on? And you guys
were like, oh, maybe the world come up. And I
was like, because it did take so long even that,
and we had ridden it already and we had gone
through really fast, but then that took. I don't know why.
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Maybe someone threw up or something.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Maybe you scared that the wall was going to I
was like.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Eight, so I guess, and I mean, I don't know
how long we actually waited, but it felt like an
hour at least.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I remember it was pretty long.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So I was like, oh my god, what if this
wall doesn't come up?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And I.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Mean I still went on it, but yeah, when that
part came up, I was like, oh my god, we're
about to die.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We'd have been a non statistic and Disney World.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, we would have been disappeared. Okay, Well, so that
Walt Disney being frozen.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, that's pretty common.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I feel like a lot of Yeah, that's very common.
But people are thinking that one of those islands maybe
holds him. Oh, so yeah, guarded, but then why both
why would both be I don't know, it's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, just to throw people off, yeah island. Yeah, well,
it's kind of like it's kind of like Area fifty one,
like what you see from the surface is most likely
just the tip of the iceberg of what actually is there.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, they probably have like ten levels round or something.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right, so it could be something similar to that of
like a almost like a deflection of you know, perception
of like oh yeah, maybe it could be here.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But right, well, there's lots of places people say it is, right,
but I don't know. I didn't hear like at least
his head is frozen. Yeah, I just think it's his
whole body about the theory, but.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I've heard some weird things about that because it's always
been like it's it's pieces of him, or it's his brain,
or it's his head, or it's his whole Like. My
thing is, if he was actually frozen at the time
of his death, he probably would have rosen himself solid.
I'm thinking, like it wouldn't have been like oh no,
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in the future, just have my brain and just put
me in a new body, you know, yeah, right, or
just have the head and the jar or whatever, you know.
But no, it would have been it would have been
freeze my entire body, and he wouldn't have no concept
of like how much damage that actually does to your tissue? Right,
if that is truly what happened to mister Walt Disney alleged.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Right, Well, he was a science fiction fan, like super
into future whatever technology.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And yeah, I mean that was the time too, that's true.
You know, that was like the space Age, and people
were really excited about They thought in the year two thousand,
we'd be flying around like the Jetsons and stuff, you know,
and here we are twenty twenty five and still, you know, barely.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Have cars drive themselves. Yeah. I guess, well, because EPCOT
was all about that and stuff. I didn't know EPCOT
standard for something.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It's an acronym.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't know, it's Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It was literally supposed to be like this is how
Americans will live in the future. I mean it was changed,
I guess, like his brother something totally changed the idea
of it later. But it was supposed to be like
this is America in the future, or whatever. I don't know.
I think the only thing I know of epcots that
isn't that the Small World ride or whatever. I think, yeah,
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that's the only thing I know. And I think the
drinks around the world. I think is there at the
Disney World. Yeah, but yeah, I guess he had lung cancer,
which I didn't know he was like sick like that,
But so I think he well, he was obsessed with
the idea of being frozen, and I guess he talked
to some like president of the Cryogenic Society of la
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or something like. He talked to him like a month
before he ended up dying. Okay, so maybe he was
investigating if it was possible or like, you know whatever,
because he was probably thinking, like, in the future, I
could be unfrozen and they'll have the cure to this cancer,
or they'll be able to.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Just give me two new lungs.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, plus he had the money.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Why not just for I mean, who cares if you're
going to die anyway?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I mean that that is an
interesting like thought experiment, especially for someone like him that
probably wanted to be immortalized in some way spe or form. That,
and like you said, what difference would a few you know,
tens of thousands of dollars make just to be frozen
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if you're going to die anyway? So one of two
things are going to happen. Either it's going to work
or it's not right. You got way too much money
to even worry about it, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, And like the thing that goes with that theory too,
is that well, whether it's true or not, Disney was
tired of everyone searching, so they made the movie Frozen,
like they titled it for that specifically. So when you
google it, you come up with the Disney. Yeah, right,
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but you can't, I mean, you can't put cryogenically and
it's it'll come up still.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh you can still find it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, but like most people, you're just gonna say Frozen
and that'll be all the movie stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's an interesting that's see. That's the one thing I
do admire about Disney is their pr is on point.
As far as their actual well, I guess it wouldn't
even I guess I could call it pepe. Like the
public perceptions.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Like what is the stambor? Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I had I had a good one for it. I
just had to you know, I had to get there first. Yes, No,
they do have like a super solid team that like
really pushes a lot of public perception of the company, right,
Like there's it's really hard to find something bad that
came from Disney. Yeah, like actual from Disney. Like you
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can look up stuff that people say bad about Disney, right,
but from the actual company itself. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, no, that's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean the next movie is going to be Dark
Tunnel or something, so you can't her secret tunnel. If
that happens, then it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Is true the tunnel trafficking.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah something, so it's a movie instead of looking up that.
People also think his body is stored under the Pirates
of the Caribbean Fried Yeah, I have for that at Disneyland,
like in California.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, I don't know why why that one. I don't
really know. I know they had real bones for as
the when the ride first opened or something, ye as
the decorations, it was real.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah. Well, crazy fact about the human remains, saying it
is not like illegal to like obtain sell yeah and
do anything with human remains as long as it's not
Native American I think in the United States that's about it.
But like like there was this crazy story about like
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people in like World War two that were like sending
home like human skulls and stuff. And it's not illegal.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
From the battles. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know that. Well,
they said like one of the universities donated it or something.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh that's what I'm saying though, like they can freely distribute.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, but I think the public still that's one thing
that they were like, no, like they've replaced it now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I mean that's allegedly.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well yeah, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well that is that does like it's definitely really morbid
to think about, Like, oh yeah, I'm on this ride
and I'm seeing all this.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Washed amusement park. It seems a little like you know,
you go to the catacombs in France and it's like, okay,
I know where, but at an amusement park, the hapviest place.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That was like I don't know, hey, it's super happy
and even the dead people are happy because they're imortalized
in the Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, I mean I would be okay with it, but
these people, you know, for the university. They donate it
for science and then to end up at a Disneyland amusements. Yeah. So,
I mean that's kind of what I have. I have
a ghost one, but I guess I don't. I think
it's been twenty minutes. Maybe you're fine if we want it.
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There's not much on the ghost There were a lot
of ghost ones. I mean his house, I guess is
in part of the Disneyland complex.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
In Califoria, California.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yea, so people say that he's there, Well, that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Would make sense if you do believe in the spirit
world and stuff like that, that would totally make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, because while people say they see a shadow in
the window.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Him holding Mickey's hand and stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, well, Mickey, I guess could be in the if
you make your own affort after life he's living.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
In it's a demon portrayed itself as Mickey Mouse. I
mean that trafficking all the humans through the secrets and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I know. There was like a lady maybe I guess
she was a worker, like cleaning that house or something.
I don't know. She was in there for some reason
and there was like a light on and she turned
it off and she heard behind her say someone say,
I'm not done with that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Cool, I'm out. Yeah I'm not. I'm not gonna sit
here and argue with you disembodied voice.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean i'd be like, oh, yeah, you are done.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh yeah, you're gonna tell the ghosts that you're done Disney.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ye. Yeah, I guess that's your employers. Well technically, yes, sir,
you're not done yet. Yeah. But mister one Way, have
you heard that? That's like super popular. I guess this
is the last ghost. It's on Space Mountain in California.
I guess I was thinking the one in Disney World. Okay,
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but mister one Way, so the idea, I mean, it's
like an urban legend, I guess more. But they say
it's a ghost. But there was like they caught on
camera a long time ago, like maybe not a long
time ago, since they have cameras, but sidearg anyway, they
caught someone going in to the ride and not never
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coming back out. So they call him mister one Way then,
because you know, they never saw him come back out.
But people are saying maybe he died somehow in the yeah,
like maybe he went, you know, to a place you
shouldn't go or or yeah, and it's all dark, I mean,
or maybe he committed suicide or something, but he never
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came back out. So now people are saying on that ride,
like they'll get on and there'll be someone already like
or they'll there'll be someone coming from the other side
onto the ride like with you, like sit down next
to you or whatever that and then would you get
off the right because you can't see anything, but when
you get off the ride, that person will be gone.
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So it's like this guy, Yeah, what would you do
ship myself? Do they take pictures on them one?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I think they know maybe it's the Tower of
Terror that Yeah, I can't remember if they do on
Space Mountain or not. Listeners let us know in the
Collins Blow if they do, because I honestly cannot remember.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, it's been a long time since. Well I've never
been to the California one.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Noah, neither.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But they said too, I mean there's another legend or
whatever with him that they he'll be like holding on
to the side instead of in the seat.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
See that's even that. That is so much worse. If
I'm riding a roller coaster in the dark and I
get like flashed the light and I just see somebody
just help.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He's just he's just you know, having fun himself, freaking
you out.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To be fair, if I was a ghost at an
amusement park, I would one want to be scaring the
ship out.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Of people, or like on the tower chair or something.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, it starts to drop, be like whoa gonna die
and just float away. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, but those are kind of because they also say,
you know, it looks like maybe a regular dude. But
then one of the virsins I saw said he looks
like really gaunt or like, yeah, so I feel like
it's more an urban legend since there's so many variations
on it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
But or maybe he just likes to change up his fit.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I mean, yeah, if he's a ghost, he can like
whatever he wants, I guess. So yeah, yeah, that's the
big ones I found.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, I think everybody, like I said, knows about and
the conspiracies. There's way too many. We could probably do
five six episodes on just Disney by itself, right, But
since we are in Holiday World and the famous Santa
Claus Indiana for the week, I wanted to do a
theme park themed episode and I made a joke about
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doing Santa Claus, Indiana and Holiday World, fully expecting I
would not find anything at all. I found the most
crazy shit I think I've ever fucking heard about a
fucking theme park. Now, granted, some of these are one
just poking fun, oh yeah, but there's a few that
are pretty wild. So we'll get into it. And like
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I said, I apologize. I have my laptop and that
normally is out of view from you guys, but today
that'll work just fine. We can get it like this.
So I have a couple of different ones. The first one,
this one is kind of a little terrifying. Okay, Santa
Claus is always watching. We'd all know, you know the
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y Yeah, sees you when you're sleeping and knows when
you're awake.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, knows if you've been bad or good, so it'd
be good for goodness sake that whole ship. The theory
is the town is a front for a massive surveillance program, okay, supposedly,
and we're going to get some eyewitness testimony hopefully while
we're here. Locals whisper that the town theme is just
a festive cover. The Santa Claus Post Office processes thousands
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of letters each year, which are secretly being used by
the government to profile children and adults for psychological studies.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Hmmm, I mean I could see that well.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And see that's the part like like once again poking
fun at the whole, you know, little Christmas song about
kids being good for whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
For goodness, like although it's because he's.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Watching you, right, but there is some related to this.
There was a gentleman that lived here that would write children.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, right, So you started as post office workers.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It was post office. It started off with a single gentleman,
but then it kind of started to you know, escalate
as as more people started writing it and doing stuff
like that. So it is kind of it's one of
those things that like freaks me out because it's like
every person that I meet that like works here that like,
you know, even like we were talking about the candy
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shop owner, this guy is way too extra. We're gonna
try to get very nice, very nice, very nice, very energetic,
the most energetic I've ever seen, you know, and granted.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Him last year like that, but maybe he wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know, I think, yeah, I don't know. Granted,
he works at a candy shop. So he's you know,
just you.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Know, always having that frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Frozen hot chocolate.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It is very good.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
But it is interesting because, like thinking about it from
that side of it, because the government has done shitty
things about spying on people gathering information, which letters maybe
not so much anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Would be pretty hard to like aggregate together unless they
scan it somehow and like with.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
AI maybe your well but yeah, that wouldn't be that
hard to do though, well now it wouldn't, but before
before then you just have like a department of compartmentalized
people that just compile.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Copy of like transcribe everything. Yeah, well that's true. I
mean how many letters do they get we need to
ask that we got to get.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, according according to what I've what I've researched, it
says the process thousands of letters a year, So I
mean it's not like a substantial amount, but it's definitely
enough to get a good case study of you know,
psychological behavior.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
That's crazy. I mean they could even just sell that
to like corporations. Well that I see other thing too, Yeah,
but it's like, oh, this is really asked for than
Yeah the Barbie.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Hey, wal Mart guess what you guys need to run sales.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Right, Yeah, so yeah they would buy that.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Ye, any major company would. Here's one that I thought
was really interesting. Alien visitors help power Holiday World?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Help power it? How do they power it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
The theory is the theme park Holiday World Splash Safari
is powered by alien tech. Locals report strange lights over
the park at night, and it is rumored that the
g force on some of the rides is a little
too advanced for earthly technology.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What what ride the thunderbird? That's the only one.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Some believe that the visit aliens visit annually disguised as
tourists and TACKI Christmas sweaters. Here's the one that I
this is definitely just poking fun.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, are they mistaking the drone show?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Most likely? So I do want to talk to some
of the locals though about Yeah, because I have heard
of especially out in rural areas such as where we are.
There is literally nothing around Santa Claus, Indiana. Like the
nearest town is what like, wud you say thirty minutes
real time?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean Jasper, But I wouldn't say that's maybe it's
a town.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Like I mean Evansville probably, but or Owensboro, Kentucky is
pretty big.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
But I mean like it's it's literally very isolated.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
At ye, like when you get soy beans.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So that there is a lot of paranormal alien sort
of sightings that happen out in these types of areas.
So now the whole power about alien tech. No, most
of these are coasters are super rad like Thunderbird awesome. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
But I can't believe they would say the G forces
too much obviously.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They've never been to six Flags, have never been to
Cedar Points Point.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Come on, man, because most of them are like Wooden too.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, so you're just getting beat up, yeah more than anything.
So No, but like I said, some of these are
just poking fun.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I thought that one was one to kind of have
in there, the Eternal Christmas Candle cult.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, I am interested about that.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
This one I couldn't find. I could find just enough
information on just to see that it might exist. But
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
That's fine.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Design Maybe.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So the theory is that there is a secret worship
of a never extinguishing Christmas candle here.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Well, I mean, you know, I could see that creating
a religion.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, and it's supposedly located deep beneath the Santa Claus
Museum and village, which.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
We have not till we've never gone there.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
So I think we're going to I think we need
to go there.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
People want to go tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah. The candle supposedly has been burning since the eighteen hundreds.
I couldn't find like an.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Actual date eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, so we're talking hundreds of years. Yeah at this point.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh wow, how big is this candle? I don't know,
or just it never melt.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But supposedly the cult is called the Keepers of the
Flame or the Eternal Christmas Candle colt or the Eternal
Candle Cult.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I like the Keepers of the Flame, Keepers of the.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Flame sounds rats cool, right, I kind of want to
be part of it, right yeap, But pretty much like
what I could tell, I couldn't find a whole lot
on this colt. But apparently this candle, allegedly, if it exists,
is what keeps like a lot of goodness in the world.
So this cult's not like either. Yeah, and if it
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happens to go out or too many people find out
about it, the world will descend into chaos.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Oh wow, we better not investigate them.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I want to. I want to be a keeper of
the flame.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Give me match, give me a part of the flame.
It reminds me of like Avatar the luster right with
the dragons, like they had the flame or whatever. You young.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Well, and that's one of those things where it's like,
at first I thought it was supposed to be like
some evil, crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
It is, because I will say, everybody you do meet
down here from you know, the guys that run the
gas stations, the liquor stores are liquor store the singular.
I mean, hell, even the subway that's out here. Everybody
is the nicest person you could ever talk to. Like,
I don't think I've ever had like a bad encounter
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with anybody working at Holiday World, anybody that works around
Holiday World. Like everybody's super nice, super friendly.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Maybe maybe everyone's in a that's what I'm saying, But
if it's for good, Yeah, I mean it's hard to
live in Santa Claus, Indiana without being jolly, Like.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
It's a mandatory feeling. You have to have it. If
you can't, you don't live here.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Well, you got to be really in the Christmas too,
But I.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Get I'm not really into Christmas. And I'm telling you,
I get about all Christmas out I can when I
get here, and I don't even.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Do shit well Christmas in July. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Now this is funny, and I thought it was good
because you were doing Walt Disney supposedly allegedly whatever we
want to use to describe this. Santa Claus has a cryogenic.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Slab, like he's experimenting with.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Santa Claus. Indiana is a secret location of a cryogenic
storage facility.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh, Walt Disney's here, That's what I'm saying. Well, what
better way to throw them off than put them in
different theme parks?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And see what I think is really wild is they
say the original quote unquote Santa. They always have it
in quotations. They never just say Santa Claus, right, didn't die,
he was frozen.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I thought Santa was a magical being that lives forever.
Are we talking about Saint Nicholas? I don't know they
took it from German? Well, Jasper is German.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
That's exactly what I was about saying, Yeah, so you
have you have the lore of Nicholas in Germany, like
it's so fucking crazy anywhere. So the town exists to
protect this legacy, using festive joy to distract from the
(44:33):
highly classified Deep free Froze Deep Freeze Lab hidden in
the nearby woods, which there are woods literally right across
the street from Holiday World.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah. Do you think we are allowed to investigate?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
We would get arrested. Is that part I mean, is
that part of the park?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
No, I don't think it is. There's also a state
forest like between here and JASP.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, well, and that's public land.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Is it all public land? Though I know there's no
way you could possibly know.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Wait, when did Santa Claus become a city town whatever?
I should have looked that up.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Well, so here's the interesting thing. I don't know exactly
when it was, But Santa Claus was not the original
name of the city. Oh really, it was Santa Fe.
But it was Santa Fee, not like f E f F.
I guess would be the best.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It could still be Fay, but that's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
And for some reason they couldn't get the whatever regulation
was in place about naming the city with the post
office that was currently here, it wouldn't go through, and
then for no apparent reason, out of nowhere, like years later,
they named it Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, that was weird. That's when the Crown genics led.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well, especially with Jasper being a German.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Town, right, they are very a German town like this,
I'm just saying, I mean German Fest next week.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah see.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And like I said, like most of this like you
see it and you like want to poke fun at it,
but when you like really start looking into it, it's like, yeah,
this is a little too weird, right right, Like it's
something like nefarious, it's something crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
No, yeah, but something's there for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, I do want to check this out too. So
there is a bell that controls time here, allegedly atop
the Santa Claus Church is a time control device. Locals
claim that time moves slower around it really supposedly, oh
but it especially moves slower during the winter.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Months to make it longer for the Santa Claus time.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
If the bell is wrong in a certain pattern, it
allegedly shifts the perception of time to keep you kind
of in like almost an endless loop.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Really supposedly, that's crazy allegedly like groundhog Day or not
that bad, well, not.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
That bad, but I think it's to to extend like
the holiday season, right of it.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, it hypnotizes you right, feel longer.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Because it doesn't say it actually does it. It says
time is perceived.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
It feels like right there.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So I don't think it's like an actual like if
it does exist. I don't think it's like a time
control device. I think it's a human perception control control
or shifting or or something crazy like weird.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That's in the town right, not in the park.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, so that is the Santa Claus Church, which is
right over by the.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
The muse Museum.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I believe, Oh, because there's a church right there, or
it's right or it's the one right up here by
the police.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I think it might be the one by the police station.
That's weird. Yeah, we need to go over there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So I mean it's just right down the road. Well yeah, everything, Wow,
everything is just right down the road. Listeners, you can
hear they're currently celebrating fireworks like they do every show.
Last This one is kind of like Poking's File a
little bit, but it it kind of harps back to
(48:22):
what we were talking about in the Disney World thing.
It's like trafficking. Okay, so apparently there are quote unquote
elve labor violations like the elks for.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
So stas el are apparently real and they all live here.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
And they're being hidden. But every time they say elves,
once again, everything's in quotation, So that leads me to
believe that it's not not physically talking about Santa clauses elves. Right,
So supposedly there is underground networks of tunnel. I'm telling you,
there's always tunnels.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
It's said to house these real life quote unquote elves.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They take people from the park and make them slave
labor or for Santa's workshops.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Oh no, but the most of that that I found
on that was much bullshit. They were talking about elves
and all that. But what I did think was interesting
where there are definitely documented cases that people have seen
entrances to tunnels. Really yeah, in the park towards the
back where like good gravy and stuff like that are ye,
(49:44):
if you guys don't gravy is a great rod, it's not.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Tunnels. Well, they have gates because they have part of
more of the park. But I haven't seen tunnels.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Have you ever looked though?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
No, you should talk about this before we went tickets
tickets now, yeah, we can look next year.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
No, but it would make sense to be able to
have tunnels because like, like, for instance, not to get
too much in for the listeners, but I had to
make an abrupt, you know, exit from holiday World this year,
and the way that we got taken up front was
through these back trails.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Okay, but not tunnels.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
No, but there there were like offshoots going everywhere.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of gate gated areas
and stuff. I'm sure employees because it's so hilly too
like to get back.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, but how easy would it be to dig tunnels
into those hounds? That's true, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Right, And then make an elevator to the entrance so
you don't have to walk. They should open these up
for after the drum show, because you got to walk
all the way back and it's it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's paining the ass. That's why, listeners, if you ever
go to Holiday World and you want to ride some
awesome rides, first go all the way to the back
where the Thunderbirds at and you can make your way
back up to the front.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, and you can see the drone show from the road.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, just dive over there. There's no point to walking
all the way back there, because now we're just getting
congested in a group of supposedly elves and aliens and
god knows what else. And if you're in a large group,
it'd be too easy for someone to a statue with
one of those tunnels. The next thing you know, you're
getting paid in peppermint and candy canes, and.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
I mean people, you could take someone in that. If
anyone fell, you would be trampled. So it is a
little scary.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah. I don't like large groups of people and that
freaks me the fun.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And it's night time too, it's dark by then.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's what I got for Holiday World.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Nice. Okay, Well, I do want to say, you know,
Santa Claus is a real place for the people, because
we didn't really say that the beginning. This is real,
this is a real place. We're here.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, like I said, from the short term or from
the short form stuff you're going to have seen probably already.
This is a real, actual place. We're going to try
to get some hopefully some Santa Claus PD people to
come on camera. I don't know if that's going to
happen or not. We haven't asked.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
We should talk to the post office.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
The post office for sure, we'll get pictures, videos, all
that stuff. So this is one hundred percent of real place.
If you look up Santa Claus, Indiana, it is one
hundred percent of real place. And Sarah and I be
here right now.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Right, so yeah, And if you write a lett of
Santa with no address, it does go here.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
It does go here.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
So maybe don't send it if you don't want to
get you're going to.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Be psychologically profiled and screened. Do not do that.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
So it's still fun.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, but address it to the North Pole. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Do you think there's a place.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Up there, like a physical land.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Body tunnel underground every day underground the water, there's another
Santa station.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, maybe maybe, I don't know, but listeners, that's going
to wrap it up. Like I said, kind of a
different format. Obviously, Sarah and I are not ever usually
in person together, so this is kind of a unique
first experience for both of us. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
but as per usual, check us out on any of
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But as per usual, love you guys, Thank you guys
for hanging out and watching everything, and as.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Always, remember just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching.
See you next time on The Paranoid.
Speaker 6 (53:52):
Perspective, computat thirty eight and
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