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The Paranormal Project Radio show. Hereare your hosts, Scott Allen and Christina
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Bowen. Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the show. I hope you
all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Howabout you, Christina? How are you?
I'm doing good? How are youdoing all right? I can't believe
this is now the holiday season?We're in it. I mean, this
is it. A few more weeksin Christmas and then New Year and boom
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another year. It's hard to believethat it goes as fast as it does,
you know. That's why I'm Ithought it would be really great to
just do the show with the twoof us tonight and talk a little bit
about what you do about the magic, what it is and what it isn't.
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And you know, the world isa mess right now. I think
I think we talked about what wecan do too cast a spell and hopefully
bring some peace to the world andgoodwill to all. I think we could
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all use a little bit of thattonight. So tonight is all about magic
and witchcraft. And I'm really surprisedyou didn't wear your pointy hat and your
black cape. Did you bring it? But I flew in you do have
your broom. You flew in onthat thing that's a small bro wide handle,
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yeah yeah, wide handle. Yeah, there you go. Oh my
gosh, tell me about this.I know, I know that this was
handed down to you. And wetalked a little bit on the very first
show that you were with us.This was handed down and and your grandmother
did it. Great grandmother, oh, great grandmother. Now your grandmother and
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your mom did not. It wasmy mother had leanings and abilities, is
the way I'll phrase it, andexperienced a lot of negative blowback the few
times that she came out of herbroom closet, so to speak. And
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so she shut down and closed offand just said no more. And I
was still welcome to speak with herabout things, but she would encourage me,
well, you need to call yougranny. That's a question for granny.
There there was a lot more ofthat. But and my great grandmother
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was what you would call a Floridaswamp witch. She did not use the
term which she did not have afancy leather bound grimoire book of shadows.
She used her Bible and made notesin the columns and would highlight different things.
So she was very eclectic, buta great deal of what magic is
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is a connection to the world aroundyou. It's not it's not all reading
something out of a book or beingtaught. We all practice, whether we
realize it or not. How manytimes have you sat in a drive through
line, Gosh, I've got somuch to d I really wish this line
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would hurry up, And all ofa sudden the car pulls out out of
the way. Jerk is he theway it kind of goes? They move
anyway? But those little things,that's magic, and it's magic in its
essence. It exists beyond the realmsof ordinary. It's unseen forces at play,
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and it's almost like a dance betweenthe scene and the unseen world.
And it's somewhere in the middle.And that's where I like to stay.
Now, I'm a big believer inbalance of magic. I personally only practice
white magic and healing energy. Otherpeople can do other things. That's it's
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just not for me. But Ido believe that we need balance in our
lives and magic and the everything else. So there's a time and a place
for other things. But I Itend to just always prefer to keep it
about positivity and love. Now I'mnot talking toxic positivity. There's a big
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difference there, But I don't knowthe uh. Try and describe magic,
there's so many definitions. For me, it's whispers in the universe, it's
falling asleep. When there's someone thatyou've missed dearly and they show up in
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your dreams, that's magic. Thesmile on a little child's face that brings
that joy and that peace. Howcan that not be magical? So I
take those things, that kind ofenergy and apply it into workings. Now
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some people will refer to workings asa burn, spell, active, prayer,
whatever you want to call it.We all do it. We all
do it, you know, AndI just well, I was just going
to say, I think what Ilove talking to you about this is that,
you know, I think people whodon't know anything about this, and
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I'm going to be honest, I'mno expert on this at all, but
I think there's this preconceived notion thatwitches are doing either the work of the
devil or they're doing things that areyou know, maybe not completely kosher,
sinful. And really, to hearthat your great grandmother had her Bible,
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I mean, you know, thattells you everything you need to know,
this is not about bad things.This is about doing good and helping people.
And a lot of the things thatyou do, the te's that you
make, the tinctures, tinctures thatyou make, they're all to help people.
It's all about healing. It's allabout healing. It's not about doing
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bad things. You say that thereis a dark side to this if you
want there to be, you know, yes, But isn't there a dark
side to Everything's God, there isa dark side to everything. And you
and I talked about this a littlebit. Sometimes you can't see the light
or or appreciate the light without thedarkness because the light shines brighter. Yeah,
because of the contrast with the dark. I mean we talk about this
in return, you know, inthe response to hair, right, if
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you bleach your hair out completely,it just looks the bleachy, But if
you have the contrast, the blondeis even more beautiful. And I think
that's how it is potentially, youknow what you're saying, That's how it
is with this as well. Itis and there's there's levels of everything.
And do I do spell work everysingle day? No? Do I practice
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magic every day? Yes? Ido. I start my morning with a
little bit of magic. Even inmy coffee, I stir with intention,
I pour my cream, I thinkabout how I want my day to go,
and then I put that energy intomy coffee before I drink it.
And I'm usually watching the sun risewhile I'm waiting on my granddaughter to arrive.
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So it's a very peaceful, calmway to start the day. But
it's so simple, so so simple, and magic can be grand and very
ritualistic with huge bonfires and fancy robes. Those are trappings for the mood.
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Now. I enjoy that from timeto time, but it's not required.
You don't really need anything but yourselfto perform magic. Now. I work
with candles a great deal. Iwork obviously with herbs. We've talked a
lot about that because of the energiesthat are placed there, that are designed
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for the purposes that we're using.All of the herbs that I work with
have what I call clinical medical propertiesin addition to their magical properties, and
when I'm blending, I take bothinto consideration because that's part of that's part
of the healing the magic of it. And for me, reiki is a
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type of magic. It's an energywork. I infuse everything I make with
positive love and reiki energy for anextra ownth if you will in everything I
do now magic it's the tiny littlethings in your day to day life.
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Once again, it's being It's thatthat dance between the scene and the unseen
world and it's somewhere in the middle. But it doesn't have to be dark
and scary, and it really shouldn'tbe scary at all. Does it have
to be something you're gifted or cannotanybody just decide? One day I want
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to learn this. Not everybody's awitch. Not everybody needs to be a
witch. I'm not a medium,you know, right? What makes you
a witch? Though? Is itsomething that you And that's what I mean
when I say does it have tobe gifted? You know it's in here.
It's in here now I would sayI was born this way. I
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was brought up under the tutelage ofa very wise witch. Well she didn't
go by that name. Once again, And I think a lot of people
get hung up on the words thatwe use. I have in my own
family. I've experienced that. It'slike, well why do you call it
this? And well why do youcall it that? You know, we're
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doing the same thing. We're justdoing it a little bit differently, right,
But it's not a scary thing.And you don't have to be born
into this. Like I said,we're all practicing a little bit of magic
in our daily life without even realizingit. Who said, you've had a
morning, a quiet morning where youstart your coffee or your tea, have
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you not and thought about your day? You want? I haven't had that
in ten years, but you knowbefore then, I had it almost every
morning. But yeah, well,but you know what I'm talking about.
It's that intentional time and it canbe a meditation, it's visual imagery.
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We have within ourselves abilities that weare all born with some people gifts,
whatever you want to call it.We are all brought into this world with
something special to offer. That's wherethe magic is. Finding that great,
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That's what I'm working on and andtalk about this a little bit because witchcraft
and being a witch is not thesame as wicked and mean they can open,
but it's totally different. Wickens canbe witches and witches can be wickens,
but you don't have to be awitch to be a wickan, and
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you don't have to be wicked tobe a witch wickan is. It's a
religion right now. It's not oneI practice or subscribe to. But you
know I've said this before. Idon't care as long as you're not hurting
kids, animals and old people,you do you you know, those are
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my rules. So you stopped.You stopped putting kids in cages years ago,
and yeah, yeah, you know, they just well it was it
was a cholesterol thing for me.Yeah, So, Gez, you know,
you know, honestly, all ofthe visual imagery when you say the
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word witch, what do you think? You think the black robe, you
think the broom, you think thepoint he had, you think Halloween?
Right, that's Hollywood, right,that's not reality. This is what a
witch looks like. That's right,you are what a witch looks like.
We all you'd be surprised how there'smore of us out there than people realize.
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Well, and you know, fifteenwe'd both been screwed, you know,
I mean really they had slung usboth up, they would, and
if you think about it, witcheshave been persecuted from the sixteen hundreds forward
because we wanted to help people,seriously, because we wanted to help people.
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So how is that a bad thing? It's really not And nobody told
anybody that it was wrong until someperson decided it was right. So no,
it were I'm not doing anything wrong. I see people, I'm helping
people. My heart is pure inmy intention. Now, like I said,
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there's a dark side to this.I never and I have a steadfast
rule never practice when I'm upset.Upset can mean sad angry never ever when
I'm angry? Are there things outthere that could influence? Just like I
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said, you know you want toclear out this line and a car will
move? You can? We allhave this ability to affect change around us.
What you do with that is apersonal choice, right, tell me
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what you know? You say younever do it when you're angry? You
know, is the danger in thatthat it won't work? Or is it
danger that something negative could come fromit? Like you could conjure something more
on the dark side without you evenrealizing, Oh it works. Yeah.
I'm a believer in paying a karmicprice. So have people made me mad?
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And I've wanted a stuff I'm ina jar somewhere you better believe it.
Have I thought about it sometimes andthen I stop myself because they're not
worth it. I personally am notwilling to ever pay the karmic price for
the dark energy for the dark workright. I mean, I deal with
enough crap as it is. Youknow, people I lose my temper with
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on the phone. All of thatstuff comes back to you, and so
do it right the first time,going around and spread a little love and
joy. There's nothing wrong with that. I'd love to talk a little bit
about who. We've discussed this alittle bit in the phone. I'd like
to talk about free will and howthat plays into some of this. We've
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talked about that and how you don'twant to mess with free will, and
to a certain extent, I'm stillconfused about how you even can do that,
you know. And if you rememberI asked you, you know if
someone came to you and said,well, would you do a love spell
and make this person love me?And you said, well, you can't
really make them love you, soyou can't really do that anyway. Where
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does the free will fall in?We all do have free will. Have
you ever met someone that you justknow is so gullible and if you told
them that the sky was falling,they would run for cover. Yes,
they're easily manipulated. Yes, peoplecan easily manipulate, but only weak minded.
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So yeah, when you talked thelovesp we did talk about that.
I'm personally not a fan of whatthe standard person calls a love spell.
I feel like it's trying to starta marriage with a kidnapping. Yeah,
and that's how you related it.Yeah, but if your strong willed,
it wouldn't have happened. Probably.No. No, we minded people are
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easily influenced and energy, that's whatthis is. Bottom line, all magic.
I don't care white, green,black, It's all energy. Right,
So that's my train of thought.I guess where I'm going. We're
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not just spectators in this world.We have the ability to affect change in
our lives and those around us withintention, which is the root of magic.
But you just have to be willingto put it out there. You
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have to be brave a little bit, because I mean, it's not easy
coming out of any kind of closet, especially in this world that we're in,
where we live in a very judgmental, non accepting shout out to Jim,
Yeah, yeah, I agree,I agree, you know, and
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I think you and I have talkedabout this coming out of the psychic closet.
You know, it's it's everything's alittle bit crazy. Well, and
you know it's funny. I hadthis conversation with someone recently who's very much
into this stuff, very fascinated byit. He said, you know you're
not, I mean not everyone islike you. I've encountered some people who
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I think are I think I'm crazy. Most of them I think keep their
mouths shut because you know, youcan't say anything nice, don't say anything
at all. But I get thevibe, you know what I mean,
I'm intuitive, but I think thatit really is something that I knew I
couldn't do this without. I hadto make a declaration was it was crazy.
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I like told my parents, listen, this is the way it is,
and they didn't understand it. Myfather's an engineer, my mother was
really into this stuff, but likewhy you you know, I don't know
why. I don't know. Butthen I went out and I really did
it. I put it out therebecause I knew there was no way I
was ever going to be able todo readings and do shows and all this
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other stuff that I'm doing and keepit from certain people like you just can't
do that, you know, Yeah, and so you need to surround yourself
with like minded people who support you. Do I understand whichcraft? No?
I mean that's because I've not beenI mean, I'm interested in and I'm
fascinated by it, but but Iwas like, I don't understand mediumship.
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I could not do what you do, and I would never I'm glad I
don't have that gift because I personallydon't think it. I don't. I
don't know that I would take itas a gift. It would it would
be difficult for me to live thatway. Yeah, I mean I understand
that I take it as a giftwhen you see the healing take place,
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and and it's the same with you, do you know what I mean?
When you see the healing. AndI had a reading today and and the
girl had lost her her boyfriend rathertragically, and and and that's what she
said to me. I really foundhealing tonight. I really found healing in
this reading. And that I thinkthat's where it is. That's where it
is. It's it's what it's allabout. When when people tell me,
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you know, the people that Ihave in my home and I much prefer
to hands on. I can doconsults and stuff with other people and you
know distance, but I I pickup on energy not just from talking to
people, but feeling their energy.And when I have someone that I'm working
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on and I am I'm digging deep, I am putting all of the white
light that I have into this personto help ease their pain, their suffering,
and the tears will just begin andthey just release, and one knowing
that they're in a safe space.But to feel that healing take place in
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that moment, that's what it's about. That's what it's about right there.
And I don't want to get intothis too much because I know next week
I've got your two other sisters comingon. The Souls to Sisters are comings.
I think what you three do togetheras a unit is really quite magical.
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You've got the medium, the healer, and the witch and together there
is this thing you do. AndI really I can't wait to be a
guinea pig for you when I seethe three of you again in person.
But it's it's pretty special and Ithink pretty powerful. To be a part
of it. Would imagine just tobe and the way our energies will blend.
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Yeah, it's really cool to watcheven I'm just seeing the pictures of
us when we've done it, andthings I can recall at the moment,
and the things that we just doinstinctively. We don't even really have to
talk a whole lot, which isa beautiful thing to have that connection with
them. But have you noticed anythingon the photos. I'd be curious with
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all the energy flying around, ifthere's ever anything that comes out. You
know, I never paid attention toit. We've never shared any of them.
I'll have to go back and lookback through and of course we know
what that means. I've got well, I'll have to blow it up by
time. But yeah, that's allright. But I do know it's something
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to look at when we're together,you know, and just to see if
anything comes out, you know.I have a fleer when when we're we're
together in Texas. Would love ifyou would take some of the pictures of
us working photograph it shows because youcan see all that, even the temperature
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change. I have a picture ofDana and an investigation and it was it
was a I was you know,the thermal and you can literally she went
hang on and you'd have to knowwhere to know. That's the Dana thinks,
and she'll do like this, Andthen on the flear you could see
it. You could see the energyshe was putting out. It was crazy.
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So I was able to catch thattoo. That's so funny because I've
never seen that when I'm reading either, and I wonder, you know,
I wonder what's radiating? If anything? You know it well, I mean,
those things pick up temperature, soit's cool. I'll have to show
you the picture. Yeah, shewon't mind. It's really very fach and
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we can talk about some of thatnext week when they're on the show.
But you know, in terms ofwhat you do in the magic, how
does it work? Do you knowhow it works? That's the big question,
isn't it that? That's what weall want to know. I can
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tell how mediumship works. I knowthat it does. I just don't know
why. And there's your answer.Yeah, I believe, and I have
faith and I feel it. Iknow what I've experienced. I know what
I feel. I know when I'mconnected to divine energy. It's an experience.
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And I'm fifty six years old.I have been doing this a very
long time. It's interesting you don'thave any warts or anything. But I
think you know another years. Ohmy god, But I've seen too much
to not believe. There's been toomuch happen. Now do I always Does
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it work every single time out ofthe shoot? No? But I don't
know anything that does. No.And it's the same thing with mediumship.
I can't read everybody, you know. I think people who say I can
read anybody. You want to talkto your dead grandmother, I'll talk to
your dead grandmother. I mean,it doesn't work that way. It's not
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like that. And you know,you want to talk about free will,
They have as much free will aswe do, and they have the right
to not talk to me. Youknow, just because you're sitting with me
doesn't mean that they're going to chooseme to deliver their message. I hope
they will, but sometimes maybe theywon't, you know, exactly. Well
see, and that's where I mean, the universe still has a everybody believes
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differently. I do believe in onedivine, all seeing power, but I
also believe that power has given usfree will. That's where our gifts come
from, that's where energy comes from. And so I work with that.
But I guess it goes back tothe faith thing and what I've seen and
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experienced. You know, people fromsixteen hundreds, if they'd seen a car
today, you know, right nowthere, they would be freaking out.
It's something straight out of the pitsof hell. It's evil, it's terrible
because they don't understand it. Andthat's what people are afraid of, what
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they fear, or well, afraidof what they don't understand. That's a
big source of fear. I'm guiltyof that as well. I mean when
it comes to all kinds of things. I'm not afraid of ghosts. Obviously,
aliens terrifying, but it's unknown.I've been doing this once again long
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enough and had so many experiences thatsomeone from the other side doesn't frighten me
at all. I'm going to doeverything I can to try to help them
facilitate getting their message across if theywant to. And I think there's a
difference between you know, well andnot to get off the not to get
off the witch craft thing. ButI really think that there's a difference between
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some of the souls that are stuckin a place like an asylum where they've
been, you know, live terriblelives and you know they're living that.
There's a difference between that and saythe gentleman that came through on the reading
today saying, you know, Ilove you and I'm sorry I put you
in this situation, and you know, these are the kinds of things that
I see when I do readings,and I think it's fascinating, but nothing
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to be feared. I think tobe feared, and we don't and like
you, we don't deal in darkness. So there's nothing there that's dark,
no answer, there's nothing to fear. But and I welcome questions anybody that
has any questions when it comes towhat I do. I love it when
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they're open and they visit my homeand they'll they'll peak, and I'm like,
come on in, let me showyou. And you're like, you
have an author. Yeah, that'swhere I do my work. And then
they see all the herbs and thenthey get to talking and like this really
isn't that scary? I expected itto be all black, and like,
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no, that's an aesthetic. DoI have a couple of sugar stulls and
stuff around because I think they're cool? Yeah, but I it's you can
feel the energy that I work with. Let me put it that way,
right, Hi Greg? Hi?Greg? You know, people tell me
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when they come in they can feeland I've I've had people that I would
not invite into that space and theycan feel that too interesting, they don't
want to come in. So yeah, I I you know, I want
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to open this up to people too. If anybody has questions for Christina,
this is a really good time.We are going to do a little spell
towards the end of the show.But how much time do you think we
need for that? Three or fourminutes? Okay, so we still have
some time to chat. I didn'twant to cut you off at all with
that, but anybody that's here that'swatching, if you have any questions for
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Christina, please put it in thechat wherever you're watching and we can talk
about it. Also, Christina,where do people reach you if they have
questions? And certainly if they youknow, want to know. I'm all
over social media. I don't TikTokbecause I'm just not a video person.
I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook. I mean, I'm easy to find.
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You can even message through through theshow, and I'm sure you forward
it on to me. So I'mreally not hard to find, but people
show up in my inbox all thetime. Do I do spell work for
people? Yes, when I feelled to. Just because I'm asked doesn't
mean I will. Their intentions needto be pure apart and they need to
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understand all ramifications. Just like withanything any any energetic transactions that we tick,
there's always some sort of price tobe paid. Have you ever been
to the grocery store and they justgave you that loaf of bread when you
ask for it right now? Youhad to pay for it. So there's
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and payment can be different things.It can be time spent with a deity,
offering quiet reflection, offerings to whicheverdivine energy you work with. There's
so many different ways I make offerings. I have places on my altar and
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I keep that open. I likecandles and put it all together and I
release that energy. So you sayyou don't do spell work all that often?
But what what? What? What'san idea of a spell? Like?
What kinds of things would you dothat you would feel comfortable with?
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Other people? Are just for me? Oh? Whatever? Whatever? I
mean? You know, someone comesto you, what sort of things would
you feel comfortable doing healing. Ofcourse I'm always happy to do. And
I like, I know this ismight freak people out, but this is
that energy thing. I like tohave a personal thing from the person that
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needs the healing. Not necessarily athing, a piece of hair, a
string from your clothing, just somethingthat's going to give me your energy,
okay, is what it is.And I keep all of them together and
I work my healing spell repeatedly.That's something I do probably almost monthly,
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I would say almost monthly. Andanyone that I have ever done any kind
of healing work for, they're includedalways. So I'm always putting positive energy,
healing energy that just love back outthere. How is how is the
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spell different from let's say, aprayer. People who pray, who have
a religion that and they pray.Is it similar? There's gonna be people
that are not going to be happyabout this. I actually call what I
do is active prayer because it's notsimply closing my eyes and thinking in my
head. I will chant out loud, I burn candles, I draw sigils
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and release that energy. I willburn plants to bring that specific energy or
property to the situation. But it'sreally not that different. Yeah, because
when you said you know you pray, I mean I know people they go
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on a prayer list, you know, and there's all these people on a
prayer list and they're praying for youknow, health or for recovery or whatever
it is. And you know toa certain degree the intentions there in the
same intention is there? Just becausethe way I do it looks different doesn't
mean it's dark or evil or bad. It just looks different to you.
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I have a question here. I'mgoing to put it up on the screen.
You might need to read it tome. Yes, that's right from
doctor Michael Walker. What about theblue magic third realm we practice in cloud
Craft, New Mexico. Are youfamiliar with that, Doctor Walker? I
am honestly unfamiliar with that. Canyou share a little later with that on
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anything, Doctor Walker? Well,your magic and the third If there's anything
that you could send to me,I would love to learn more. I'm
always open to learning about other kindsof witchcraft and magic that's practiced. But
I honestly have never heard that.That's very interesting. There's so much the
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metaphysical world in and of itself isI don't think I don't think that there's
any such thing as an expert whenit comes to this, because I know
what I do like this. Yeah, well this' ei, there's so much
that I don't know. And I'vebeen around a while. So he says,
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biblical references to third Heaven. Idon't know. I'm not familiar with
that, but now I've got tolook into it and find out. Yeah,
So seriously, if you have anylinks that you could share with us,
please send them. Yeah, andthat's I love to tell me.
We do meet a lot of peoplewho know a lot of things. I
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mean, we certainly are not theauthority on any of this stuff. Really,
no, no, and I won'tever pretend to be. No.
You know. It's funny because Ihad someone come to me for reading and
they said, can you tell memy spirit guide's name? And I thought,
you know, so, look,I can give you a name.
Sure, his name's Clarence. Butyou know, how how are you going
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to prove how are you ever goingto prove that? I don't know?
I mean and and I and Ionly will do things that are verifiable,
you know, that are verifiable.In other words, your loved one comes
through and they give you things thatyou can understand that to me is worth
doing. But it's you know,this stuff about well what was I back
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in a past life? I mean, you know, really and truly,
you know, even if I feltI had an idea, how do you
prove it? How do you validatethat? So I think that I guess
that can be individual with validating someof the things. But so you're referring
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to things that you can actually prove. I like things that I mean,
I bring people through to deliver messages, right, I deliver messages for people
that are coming through. And ifthey say, I'm a dad died of
a heart attack, I had threeboys. One of them broke his leg
just before I pas. I mean, you know, I'm using this as
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an example right right right, andthey can validate that it gives them peace
and understanding that their dad must besomewhere here. Because I don't know these
people and they're communicating all these thingsto me. But if I tell someone
your your your spirit guide was aNative American and this was his name,
and well, okay, that's great, and you know, maybe it gives
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you a name to call him,but I don't know that he has a
name I don't know that I wouldever get that name, do you know
what I mean? Like, Idon't. I don't trust it enough.
If it was something that they couldvalidate, you know, perhaps you could
say, oh, in a pastlife, you know, you were an
explorer out in the wilderness. I'mjust using that as an example. Oh
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my god. And then you know, that's why I've had an affinity all
my life to be you know,I have a cabin up in the woods
and then you know, so maybeyou could get some kind of validation with
that. But I think with withthe you know, the other stuff,
I really, I really just wantto help people. But I don't know
how that helps people if they ifit's just it's not show, it's not
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show magic. Do you know whatI mean? That's not what this is.
Well, it's like when people cometo me with the love spells,
and I always spend a little timeto counsel when they're requesting something like that,
Well, have you done the work? Have you done this? Have
you done that? Have you spokento this person? Do they know how
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you feel? You know, they'rewanting something to happen without putting in any
kind of work or effort. Yeah, I don't work with that kind of
magic. You have to do someof the work. You have to be
invested, not financially with your energy, you have to be invested. People
come to you for healing, andhave you ever encountered somebody that really didn't
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want the message even though they toldyou they did, you know, they
really didn't want to hear it.I've had people come through and you're like,
well, that's not who I camehere to speak to. Well,
that's what's here. I mean,I don't know what to tell you.
You know, well, you knowyou can only call I mean, yeah,
it means I think we should doI think we should do the I
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think we should do the spell.And I mean to cut you off.
We have about ten minutes left,so I think I don't give me a
chance to do it, and thenwe can, and then we can.
So I have my candle, andif anybody wants to take part in this
from home, whether you have anelectric candle or a regular candle, I
have my little white candle right here. You've got a white candle. Okay,
I'm going to be using a bluecandle because colors do have something to
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do in magic and this piece,which is our goal tonight is to share
goodwill and piece blue. But ifyou don't have blue, white as a
universal because it encompasses all the colors, so you can always use a white
candle in magic. Now, Iam going to put a little bit of
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a symbol. This is simply aselenite pencil. You can use a fingernail,
it doesn't matter, just anything toYou can even use an actual pen
and write in the wax. ButI'm going to carve on here the words
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peace and healing. Okay, allright, all right, I'm trying to
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use my Where is my candle holder? Oh well, I'm just gonna hold
it. Okay, are you lightingit? I'm a I'm just getting ready
to okay, and have everything readyto light our candles because mine's not lit.
Okay, you can go ahead,and if you're going to write on
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your candle, go ahead. Ifyou're not, I encourage you. Just
hold it and I'd like you tovisualize peacet and just happiness. Kay h
I'm gonna have to be created here. I just wants it. Okay,
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right, and we'll go ahead andlight your candle. Mm hmm. Okay,
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Now I've written a spell that Iam going to recite as it burns,
and I'm gonna set this right here. You got your candle, it
that's all that okay in the realmof twinkling lights and winter's embrace. Let
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peace be the song that resonates throughevery space as carols fill the air.
May harmony prevail, weaving a tapestryof love that will never fail. Let
hearts be kind and minds be stillas we gather together, fulfilling the goodwill
amidst the chaos and rush. Letpeace be our guide, a beacon of
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solace where tranquility resides as snowflakes gentlyfall, covering the ground. May peace
blanket our souls, spreading joy allaround. Let laughter echo through the night
as we celebrate delight in a worldso vast with diverse beliefs and views.
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Let understanding and compassion be the muse, embracing differences, finding common ground.
Let peace be the bridge where unityis found. Let acceptance and tolerance be
our decree for a world bound bypeace is where we yearn to be as
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families gather and loved ones reunite.May peace be the gift that ignites every
light. Let forgiveness mend broken bonds, healing wounds long endured, as we
come together, cherishing loves allure.Let kindness be our anthem, sung by
all as we answer piece's beckoning call. So let us raise our voices in
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a chorus of hope, spreading peacelike a wildfire, helping humanity cope for
in this season of giving and cheer. Let peace be the guiding star that
draws us near. Let us embracethis holiday's grace, and may peace forever
find its place. So mould itbe beautiful. Thank you? And then
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you're just going to let your candlecontinue to burn. You can leave it
in a safe place and the intentionthat you have just placed in to that
and joining us here tonight, listeningto the spell, we are all releasing
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that energy beautiful to share a littlelove and goodwill and healing for all.
God knows we need it, Yeah, we do. I really want to
thank those that have been here withus tonight and to partner this. And
you know, doctor Walker, thankyou for sharing with us as well.
I'm just looking here. You wantto you wish you knew if your father
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is happy with you in past whenyou were in medical college in the eighties,
you know, I think that I'mnot doing a reading right now.
I'm not picking up on anybody,but I'm sure that he is. And
I want to thank you for beinghere. I think it's not lost on
me that you are a doctor.You know, it isn't often that there
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are doctors. I don't know ifyou're a well medical college, so you
must be a physician. A lotdon't believe in this type of thing.
They are very turned off by it. But I will tell you when I
was in New Jersey this past September, I met a man who is a
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physician who is a full blown medicalmedium. And not that that is how
he treats his patience, but itdefinitely does play a very very significant role.
It's another tool in his arsenal thathe always backs up with real tests
and real you know, concrete things, but he uses it as a tool
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in his arsenal. And so it'snice to see someone that gets this and
has an interest in understanding it.So thank you for being here. I
appreciate that. University of Arkansas.Yeah, thank you for being here,
doctor, And you know, Iwelcome you anyone that's that's here to reach
out to Christina for her Healing orthe Solstice Sisters. They'll be on next
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week for any of their sessions.I do readings. If anybody would like
to book a reading with me,and if you're in the Massachusetts area,
I have a bunch of shows comingup. We are next Thursday night.
We're in New Bedford a Meryl's onthe waterfront New Bedford Harbors. We've got
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we do to less and tickets forthat. We have another one in January
that's already sold out, but Februarywe have two more. We have one
in Westport, mass and another onein Kenton, Massachusetts. With I like
working with other mediums, I reallydo. I think it brings a really
great energy to the room. Sowe have that going on. And we're
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booking another show for March at theRochester Center for the Performing Arts, so
we're doing one there in March.We're just putting the final touches, Doctor
Walker. Can I get each ofyour websites? Do you have a website,
Christina that you want to share?Let me see Black Raven Trading dot
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com. That's where all of myproducts are, my teas and tinctures and
salves, and you can reach methat way. You can also reach me
on Facebook. I'm super easy tofind and I put mine there as well.
Scroll across the bottom, so thereit is Black Raven Trading and Mediumscott
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Allen dot com. We have justabout a minute, lest Christina. This
has been really wonderful and I lovewhen we do our little shows together alone.
And you know, you folks,if you share with us and let
us know if you'd like to seemore of this. I just love doing
our shows together and it's always funto do a few more of those in
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the future where it's I was talkingabout things that mean the world to us.
So I appreciate all of you,and I'm so glad that you were
here, and I'm so glad youcould be a part of bringing peace into
the world. On that note,my friends, have a wonderful, wonderful
week. We'll see you right herenext week on the Paranormal Project. Have
a good night, everybody. Thankyou. Maybe hello, shit, we're
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still here? Well, i'd saykeep talking, but I think she's asleep
at the wheel. Where are weat? No? We got five minutest
oh yeah, five minutes? Nevermind? You know what? Well?
Can I say that you can catchthe solstice Sisters in Texas. Yeah,
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January at the the Lone Star Paricon. Was I was unprepared Lone Star Para
Con. We will be at theLone Star Para Con and we will have
our own event Sunday, Solstice SisterSunday. Right, it's going to be
a great wrap up. There'll bea whole lot of healing, it'll be
fun from the weekend. That isgoing to be a good time. And
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your event is at the Boorerguard Mansionin San Antonio. If anyone's listening from
the San Antonio area in and aroundthat area in Texas, what is happening
at the Boorerguard Mansion? Is ityou'll be doing your Triple Goddess. Is
that what that is? Or yes, yes, yes, we will be
doing individual sessions and we'll have avery limited number available for the Triple Goddess
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because it requires all three of usto be involved. But it's going to
be a Sister Sunday. You canget tickets at Everyday Paranormal dot com.
The Kling Brothers they're cool guys thatthey're going to be on the show soon
too, so coming on and that'sgoing to be to talk about the Paragrin.
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The Kling Brothers had this show.They were on last year. We
had them on the show last year. They had the show ghost Lab way
back when, like when Ghost Hunterswas first coming out. So there were
some of our pioneers. Yeah,they truly were. And we're going to
try to get some interviews with somepeople while we're there to bring that to
you. We won't do it live, we'll record them, but I think
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it'd be really cool to get someperspective on Texas and and who's there,
because there are going to be somebig as showing up at this at this
event, so it should be agood time. It is. It's going
to be fun. Now, there'sonly I can I can tell you.
There's really only a couple of ticketsleft for the Solstice Sister Sunday. I
did find that out, So howgreat is that? Okod? Sorry,
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can y'all hear that? Yeah?What happened? I didn't hear anything.
What happened? I don't know.I'll find out when I hang up here.
Yeah, it's okay. There's there'speople in my house so yeah,
oh gosh. Well, and whileI'm there, I plan to visit a
few of my exes in Texas.They're all in Texas. That's where they
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That's where I banished them too.I'll bring lots of big hair. I'm
bringing big hair in boots. Yeah. Yeah. We can do your roller
set with beer cans. You'll fitright. You know. I've done them
with something with Campbell soup cans backin the eighties. Here you go,
there you go, Oh my god, like if you could walk out,
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you know, if you didn't haveto walk out sideways. Your hair wasn't
done right back then. I tellyou, figure that happen. You are
thinking back then? I gotta tellyou, I don't know what we were
thinking. And I don't know whatI was thinking either. I think I
was at a time glitch, like, how did I finish five minutes early?
I never do that. I don'tknow. You know, I can't
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see, so I rely on youfor that stuff. I just follow the
lead. Well, clearly, youknow I'm not very good at seeing either.
So you know, listen, onlyone of us gets to be blind.
Stay in your lane, yes,stay in your lane. Oh,
I can't see well without my glasses. I am just I might as well
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be blind. Everything is like this. It's completely a blur. I can
see nothing. I can't read,I can't do anything. I just see
a blur. But fortunately I haveeyesight that can be corrected to a certain
degree with with with glasses. AndI'm also deaf. So there you go.
I mean, it's, you know, turn the two of us.
We make a pair, blind anddeath. We do make the dear yeap.
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Next time we go, you drive, I'll navigate. I've really been
wanting to pull up somewhere behind thewheel just to freak people out. I
think it'd be fun people out.Oh yeah, god, Oh my gosh,
with my guide dog in the seat, you know. Yeah, there
you go. So we really arecoming to the end of the show in
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about twenty seconds. So again,thank you all for being here. It
really is truly a pleasure to dothis show with you. I just love
it. We have such a goodtime. Hang on after the show,
Christina, a couple of things we'llchat about, but we will see you
next week here with your counterparts,the Lovely Solstice Sisters. On that note,
it really is a good night,everybody. Have a great week.
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