January 10, 2024 • 54 mins
As an ordained Minister in the Spiritualist tradition Nancy Smith has shown over and over again that life truly continues after the change called death and that we can communicate with our loved ones. Her work as a medium and spirit artist has opened the door to many of her clients who have lost dear ones and need help creating meaning during their grief process. She combines the Akashic soul work with mediumship into a practice she calls Akashic Mediumship, The language of Spirit and Soul.
She has been awarded an Honorary Doctorate in Humanitarianism for her spiritual work and community service from the Global International Alliance out of Atlanta, Georgia. Along with the Honorary Doctorate, She was also awarded the President’s Gold Volunteer Service Award for her volunteer work in the Spiritualist community.
Ommie Award winner from the Om Times TV: In the category of Best Angel Card Readers, Nancy Smith was one of two deserving nominees. After careful consideration, the coveted title was awarded to Nancy Smith, who has consistently demonstrated a deep understanding of angelic realms and an unparalleled ability to provide guidance through angel card readings.
Best American Psychics have awarded her \"Best Psychic of the Year Award\" in 2020, \"Social Activism Award \" in 2021, and \"Awesome Accolades Award in 2022\".
She has been awarded an Honorary Doctorate in Humanitarianism for her spiritual work and community service from the Global International Alliance out of Atlanta, Georgia. Along with the Honorary Doctorate, She was also awarded the President’s Gold Volunteer Service Award for her volunteer work in the Spiritualist community.
Ommie Award winner from the Om Times TV: In the category of Best Angel Card Readers, Nancy Smith was one of two deserving nominees. After careful consideration, the coveted title was awarded to Nancy Smith, who has consistently demonstrated a deep understanding of angelic realms and an unparalleled ability to provide guidance through angel card readings.
Best American Psychics have awarded her \"Best Psychic of the Year Award\" in 2020, \"Social Activism Award \" in 2021, and \"Awesome Accolades Award in 2022\".
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The Paranormal Project Radio Show, carryyour hosts Scott Allen and Christina Bowen.
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Hello everyone, and welcome back tothe part Paranormal Project Radio Show. Christina,
it's so good to have you withus. How are you? I'm
good? How are you doing tonight? Scott good? Good, excellent,
So good to see you. Andyou know, we do all of these
shows, we have some fun guests, but I really do always love bringing
in medium friends and talking about allof the stuff that the spiritual and the
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metaphysical bring. And tonight we havea guest with us that's going to talk
about something that we have not talkedabout on this show yet and I'm very
interested in it. We're going tobe talking about the Akashak records, and
I don't know if a lot ofpeople know what the Akashak Records are,
but we're going to get into thattonight. And she does spirit art and
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she does a whole bunch of otherthings. So actually, Chanell, if
we could bring our guests out,welcome Nancy Smith to the show. How
are you good? Thank you forhaving me on. This is exciting.
Yeah, and you also have yourown show, and what night is your
show? Is it? Tuesday nightsTuesday nights on Facebook Live called Angel Scapes
Podcast, but it's on all thepodcast stations also on YouTube, so if
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you can't make it to Facebook,you can find me. You can find
it later. And I love thatbecause you get some really nice guests on
your show too, talking about allkinds of things that I've never really had
a whole lot of experience with,even though I do this, like fairies
and all this other stuff. Soas a matter of fact, I've taken
note on some of your guests,so I got to look them up and
see, Oh, you know,so we know, let me know.
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Welcome, Welcome. I'm so gladthat you. I'm so glad you were
able to join us. Tell me. We talked a little bit about what
we wanted to talk to and andI think one of the things that you're
passionate about, and I know thatyou and I have talked about this is
the Akashak Records. Right, whatare the Akashak Records? Well, the
Akashak Records really fast history. HelenaBlovatsky traveled around the world, and she's
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wealth and could do whatever she wanted, and she was lucky at that time
and studied old old religions and shefound in the Sanskrit religion and Sanskrit language
see called Akasha or Akahak records,is the idea that the creator Akasha is
the energy of the Creator. It'sa very indelible energy. Everything the Creator
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has ever created since he started creating, she started creating, is in the
Zakashak field, which people call theAkashak records. And then move ahead a
few more years and Edgar Casey startedwith the Unconscious Prophet, started to read
from what he called the Akashak records, and he did a lot of past
life work. So many people connectAkashak records and past life work as well.
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So that's kind of a little bitof the history of it. But
most important to remember is the wordakasha is about energy and spirit and records
is just a recording or our collectionof information in the Akashak realm, in
the big Kahuna heaven of the Creator. So it's a really nice place to
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go because there's lots of information therewhen you go there psychically, when you
go there intuitively, and it reallyis sort of like the record of everything,
past, present and future correct everything. Yeah, and we all have
our own kind of records within Absolutely, we all have our own We have
our souls, and our souls havetheir records. And then within each this
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is how I understand it. Witheach umbrella of the soul, or all
these lifetimes within the soul and eachindividual all the way down to your hangnails,
there's a record of your experience ofyour life and all of your lives
and lives on other planets and livesand other dimensions. And it's very cunning.
And that's funny too, because Iwas going to say that to you.
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I felt like it's our soul's journey, not just us here in this
life at this time. It's oursoul's journey. Do you believe that our
souls have lived on other when wehave past lives? Can we have past
lives other places? Other? Absolutely? Absolutely. I've always wondered, and
I've just been a student of manyof these different past life philosophies, And
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how do you prove of past life? And you can prove a past life,
It's not a small thing to do. But yes, you can have
experiences on other planets, other dimensions. You can have experiences in your future
self because in the soul realm timeis is not linear. Time is more
like a loop or a big bubble, and you can access that information just
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by reaching out and kind of meditatingor just reaching out metaphysically and getting it
so and it's really amazing to mehow many times I've bumped into people who
their past life is on another planet. I actually have some water colors that
I painted of other planets. AsI saw them from the reading that I
gave, and as I drew themand showed them to the clients, they
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were like, oh my god,that's exactly what I remember, or that's
exactly what I dream of, orit's very close, and it's and to
me, it's amazing that one ofthe lifetimes was the planet that was dying,
and the beings were very ancient andthey knew that their planet was dying
and they were preparing their next adventureas biological beings on another planet. It
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was just amazing. That's fascinating.So when you dive in, when you
dive in to do this with them, it's not like what you think of
as a past life regression through hypnosis. It's not that it's a different way
of approaching it. Well, youcan certainly get through the past life through
hypnosis and regression, and that's stillthe ecashic records I'll just share with you
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with that. But when I takepeople through past lives, I do it
more of a shamanic journey. Well, I will take them through and they're
very much aware and they can becreative. The thing that happens when I'm
taking them through, I'm often viewingthe lifetime with them. So if they
come back with one or two things, I'll say, oh, did you
notice the fuzzy blue thing in thecorner, and they say, oh,
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yeah, that's right. So Iused my mediumship skills to travel with them
on the shamanic journey, and Ifeel many a few people have said I
can't be hypnotized. I've never beenhypnotized, but they are able to go
on the shamanic journey kind of thing. So interesting, and I think I've
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experienced I mean, not that specifically, but I had an experience once with
a woman who has been a hugehelp to me as I was opening up
years ago, and she is ashaman and I didn't believe what was going
on, and we did some ofthese things where she took me on this
journey. But she was with meand she would ask me what I saw
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and then was able to kind oflike I understand that, you know what
I mean, or she would seeit or share it with me, and
I thought that that was really fascinating. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
It's amazing kind of what you cansee and what you can experience. I
just want to also add that theAkashak realm or the Akashak records can be
accessed when you're in high levels ofcreativity or say you're composing music or writing.
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I've seen people just kind of enterinto the Akashak records spontaneously without really
realizing what they're doing. But they'regetting information from that higher realm or from
a library in the Akashak realm,and they they'll come. I remember one
woman who had no inclination to anythingmetaphysical. It was the writer's group.
We were sitting there and meeting oncea couple times a month, and she
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was writing this memoir of this thirteenyear old woman from Ireland and how she
got onto a boat and came toAmerica and how she did and the memory
was so specific, and I'm lookingat her, I said, have you
ever researched. She goes, no, it's just coming through me. And
I said, oh my god,it's you know, I wonder I didn't
know if it was a past lifeor she was just talking to another spirit
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who was describing their life to him, and that that's a kashak work as
far as I'm concerned, see,and I love that. It's fascinating,
and I know you teach a likea mentorship on the akashak work, which
you and I have also talked about, because I'm fascinated with it. I
just don't know what it manifests,you know, how does it manifest?
How do you how do you knowyou're there? And I've done guided meditations
where we've gone in and you know, you can see, But I don't
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know if that's it either, doyou know? Yeah? I think I
think it's one of those things.You you do it, you have the
experience of it, so you getto understand what it is. Somebody explained
this to me once, how doyou know past like you're not just inventing
it or making it up, forinstance, And he said, well,
you know, it's like if Itell you now, I want you to
step into and it's a cold,rainy day and and you're you're freezing,
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and and you'll say to me,no, it's hot, I got to
take my sweater off. I'm reallyand and and it's very arid, and
it's almost like a desert here.That's when you know you're in because it's
specific and you can't change it asmuch as you try to change it.
And in some ways, when you'rein the Acajac records, you can't decide
that you want it to be somethingelse. It is what it is.
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And that's when you know that you'reconnected to an intelligent memory kind of thing.
So have you have you been doingthat a while? I mean,
how do you you know? Isthat a big part of what you do
now is the Akasha and the Kashakwork. And even when I do my
mediumship, I open up the Acahakrecords so that I it's like a boost.
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It's like it's like putting a speciallittle boost in my ears to hear
more because I'm in that a Kashakvibration, the Kashak field of energy.
And I want to say that whenwe pass over, we're in the we
go to the Akashak realm. It'sthe energy of the Creator. It's it's
heaven. So yes, it's abig part of what I do and my
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mentorships really work on self healing andconnecting yourself to your soul and self awareness
and understanding the what I call thethree levels of consciousness within yourself, so
that you can maneuver through how youwere created physically and the ego that you
have, your aware of self,and then your higher self, and how
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you integrate them all. And oncesomething aspects of ourselves become integrated with our
soul, our soul is really wantsto know what we're up to and what
we're doing, and wants to havethat information that we hide it from our
spiritual self. I don't want youto know how bad I was yesterday.
But when I call that integration work, some people big talk a new age
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about ascension, we're ascending, AndI said, well, this is ascension
work. This is when we integrateour life's experience with our soul and that
information is in the Creator's realm we'rein. That's it. That's what we're
here for. If that makes senseto you, I do. I think
it's I think it's great. Soand you also do spirit art which I
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also am fascinated with. I knowthat, and I've had this conversation with
other people that when I see Spirit, I don't know if I see them
as they are or if I seethem has how I need to understand who
they are? Right? Well,I tell you it's both. Let me
tell you. Can I just talka little bit about that, Yeah,
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I will. When I first starteddrawing, I was seeing spare and I
was actually seeing their faces clairvoyantly,and I was trying to sketch it.
As a matter of fact. Icould look at the paper and a shadow
a face will come up, andI would sketch you around and I would
sketch in the shadows and then andthat's how I got my faces. But
then after a while, Spirit kindof evolved me into they just wanted me
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to do automatic, and I'm like, I didn't want to do automatic.
I just wanted to be I wantedto know what I was drawing. And
so now I can get information andfaces or faces that remind me of somebody
else, so that I can getthe information that I need to give to
them. But I have to letthat go and just let the face flow
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through me. So I have asystem that I've created about so that my
mind has a place where to whatto do with the information. Is this
is where the forehead goes, Thisis where the chin goes. This is
the perspective or the proportion. SoI get the correct and then I say,
Okay, now we've got this goingon. How big is the nose,
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how white is the nose? Where? And then I'll get a feel
for where it goes or where itdoesn't go. And I have to say,
these are not Kodak moments. Idon't know that any spirit artists has
done a Kodak moment except for exceptfor maybe Coral Pold. And then there's
the other guy, Frederick. Hisname is Remington, but he they're amazing
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spirit artists. But I have capturedenough usually for somebody to recognize, yeah,
that that's in the realm of youknow. Yeah he did have that
pointed chin and those eyes because somethingwith the hair kind of thing. Did
you were you were you an artistbefore or did that just kind of come
to you? You were? Iwas? I I was illustrator. I
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went to red in school design anddid a lot of figure drawing, a
lot of work. And then justas this phenomena happened to me. I
was drawing portraits of my kids,my friend's kids, because I was at
the age where we were all havingkids, so I was just sketching them
for money. So and then thenall of a sudden, I had this
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opening, and I drew and Istarted to draw. Faces started to show
up on the paper, and Istarted to draw those faces, and people
were recognizing them as being their lovedones who had passed, And I said,
what the heck's going on here?So spirits snuck up on me,
I think, but I kind ofjokingly say that, you know, unless
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your grandmother looked like a stick figurein life, you probably I couldn't get
him mixed it from me. Idon't think that's not going to work out.
So did you open up later inlife? Was this? Was this
a later in life? Well?I think so. What I did is
I was, it's always kind ofreally a sensitive kid, and I always
excuse me. I always saw thingsthat weren't there, you know, and
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my imagination was crazy. But thenover time kind of shut it down and
and didn't pay attention to that crazystuff anymore. And then it was when
I had my kids, and whenyou're a mother, you have to have
eyes in the back of your head. So that just triggered my intuition and
it got stronger and stronger. Andthe thing that finally put it into place
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was my daycare provider had a murderin her family. Her brother in law
shot and killed on the job,and they were upset and weren't quite sure
what's happening. And I'm listening toher and all these little kids are running
around and some and there's a phenomenaof when you touch something, of getting
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what was the name of that,When you touch something, information starts coming
through his there is that you've saidit, go get it. But anyway,
the car that he was killed inwas flatbedded into her backyard, and
all the kids are running around.She said, oh my god, can
you help me. I have toclean this out for my husband sees it.
He's going to be so upset.So I went in there and collected
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the papers, put them in garbagebags, figured out what stuff needed to
be meetened up and brought back intothe house. And when I did that,
this man's spirit just centered into myorc field and started telling me one
story after another. I thought Iwas just losing my mind, and so
that's when I really yes, psychometry, Yes, psychometry, that's it.
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My first experience with mediumship was throughpsychometry and wow. And when I went
home, these faces would not stop, and so I laid out all my
sketching materials and they started coming upfrom the paper and I started sketching them.
I had did five or six orseven, I can't remember how many.
Brought them over to her and sherecognized that's my brother in law.
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That's my thought, and that's theguy that just came to my house,
and I swear he's the one thatshot him. And it just was hebe
GEB's everywhere. God. So allof it went to the police for several
months and then it came back tome, and of course you never know
what happens, you know, andthey don't say much in those police investigations.
So that was my first police investigation. And so that's that's how it
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started. And I didn't even honestlydid not know what mediumship was and did
not know what a medium was,and I had to learn. So that
was I guess that was a littlelater opening up. Yeah, And I
feel like for me, it wasnot what I saw in the movie.
So I don't think I recognized whatwas really happening. It took a while,
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plus I worked in a funeral homefor thirty five I was going to
ask you that, Yeah, youthink any of that happened while you were
working in the funeral home. Didyou ever have a sense there was there
were Yeah, it was over aperiod of time, but it was just
coincidences. Oh, they're just coincidences, you know. There was that kind
of thing. And then I remembertowards the end of it, I remember
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feeling like there's something around me,Like I could feel it, like why
is it moving? You know?I could feel like there was something around
me. I could feel energy withmy hands, which I never thought I
could feel before, and to beable to manipulate that. And then I
started noticing like there's people walking upand down the stairs. I could hear
it. And and actually, Imean, I think the reason that I
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do all of this sort of paranormalstuff is because that's how it manifested.
For me. It felt like aghost. I felt like I had a
spirit attachment. Is what it reallyfelt like to me. It was almost
a ghost story. And it's notlike that now. I mean, once
I learned to control it, youcan shut it off and kind of go
about your life. Yeah, that'show it started. That's how it started
for me. And it was reallyactually kind of frightening. Oh yeah,
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I bet you can shut it downlike that. I can, and I
try to. Some of it Ican't. There was I've had been in
a couple of different houses that havehad spirits in them that didn't want to
leave, and I tried, likeheck to get him to just be quiet
already, because you liked to makenoise at night, and so I couldn't
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quiet him down. But when Igo grocery shop and when I'm out in
public, I'm very sensitized sensitive,So I have to shut it down and
I just bring my aura close intome. Sometimes I imagine shutting my third
eye. And sometimes I put earbudsin my ears and play either play books
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on tab or I'll play music justso that I can't feel the vibration of
everything around me. So, yeah, I do have to shut it down.
And if I don't shut it down, right, Scott, if you
don't shut it down, your it'sdraining. It was draining training. Although
I feel like I'm a little differentin the sense that I have it perpetually
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shut off. I mean, weset that intention a long time ago that
it's not on unless I turn iton. And so when I'm out and
about, I tend to be distractedand I don't notice, you know,
But when I sit and do areading, I'm like, Okay, it's
time, you can come now,and taking all sunglasses. Yeah, so
now there's some kind of thing.But I told you. I do the
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when I open up the Acastac records, when I do Mediumship, and that's
my way of really opening up.And then I close. I say a
prayer that closes the Acascac records,and that closes me. Because that's been
really helpful because I was doing allof these little opening and closings, opening
and closings. But when I gotinto that really I'm serious prayer that helped
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me really set up a nice boundarybecause I didn't want to turn off my
intuition about my life in general,but I didn't want to talk to Okay
so much. So I'll tell youthis story really fast. I lived next
door to a undertaker, had greatneighbors. They moved out the undertaker moved
in full of attachments. You couldfeel them and all the time and see
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them. So one day he camehome and I heard the shoveling of this
dirt and I looked out. Hehad taken a bunch of loam from the
cemetery and put him in the backtrunk of his car, and he was
shoveling out to put them into hisgarden. And you know, dirt is
a really good medium. And mykitchen was full, and I had said,
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everyone out of here, and ohmy god. This one time I
was getting out of the shower andthis one man had passed in his I
think in his forties. He stillhad younger kids, and he was panicked
and he was he didn't have ashirt on, and he said, I
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have to find my wife, Ihave to find my kids. I don't
know. He was a little bitworked up. And I said, well,
hold on a minute, what happened? And then I started to get
the information of what he had avery fast cornary and he wasn't and he
was still kind of trying to sortit out, so he was not quite
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on the other side. Yet.That doesn't hardly ever happen. And I
was surprised. So I brought myteam in, my eight team of angels,
and I said, I have reallygood messengers for you, and I
hooked them up with my helpers.But I think that I had that experience
because I was right next door tothe Undertaker and they had a fast track
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over to my house. And Idon't think in general, you know,
people who deal with death, they'vejust they've shut off all of that because
you just have to do your joband that's it. So he's bringing dirt
home or whatever else he's doing.He's not even thinking about it. He's
just, you know, I'm justgonna there's some great dirt, let's just
put it in WI. Meanwhile,you're getting bombarded. He's walking his dog
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down the street and I'm watching,you know, there's at least one person
following him. I'm like, ohgee, this poor guy. And he
was getting more and more cranky.So he needed a good clearing and he
needed a good talking to. Butanyway, I just had to tell you
that story. Well, it isfascinating. Do you see them. You
don't see them visually, like sortof externally, it's all like mind's eyes
stuff. Yeah, mind's eye there. Although have you ever had this experience
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where you see something at the cornerof your eye and you look and it's
not there, but it's there.It's like the peripheral vision can be really
active. And so sometimes I'll I'llsay, wait a minute, that's the
third time I caught that, andI'll start talking to them. I have
a strong sense that when we pass, or that when anyone passes, there's
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a whole team. We're worth awhole team right now, And I'm like,
you've got your guardian angel, You'vegot your your healer guide, You've
got all this. So when we'rein the process of passing, all of
those guides are there helping you,you know, move to the other side.
So I don't necessarily think souls getlost or spirits get lost, but
they can leave residual energy behind themunless they want a specific thing, and
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then they're there on purpose. SoI don't have all of the answers,
but I do have a sense ofidea of it's not a scary thing to
pass. We don't get lost orhelped. Doesn't matter what you've done in
your life, you always go tothat loving place. You got to sort
it out and you've got to faceup the stuff that you've done or didn't
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do. But I don't know howmany people agree with me or don't agree
with me, but it's a prettygood system. This going back into spirit.
As far as I can tell,I think it's more scary how and
you know how it's going to happen, as opposed to when it happens.
I think, yeah, absolutely,I agree. But yeah, so you
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kind of feel that way too,that I really have connected with a spirit
who was mean or frustrated or outof control or anything like that. They
always I don't generally, but Iwill tell you an interesting story if you
don't mind, and you're the guests, but this is on that line.
And I had dinner with a friendin Maine a couple of years ago.
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Her daughter is very, very,very intuitive, and I mean extremely but
she doesn't do it. She shutsit off. She just doesn't want anything
to do with it. They wantsomething to do with her. It's like
they can see the light. Shehad gone to school in Salve, Regina,
which is that I think that's aNewport or something, and she was
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in an area that was quite hauntedand she felt like there was this spirit
that followed her back home. Shekept seeing the shadow figure around her better
house was not haunted, and thather mother, who's also quite intuitive,
was getting it as well, andhad gone away for a while. She
was going to get married. Shewas living with her fiance and he was
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back and he was around harassing her, waking up, you know, and
there he is over the bed.She couldn't get rid of him. So
we're sitting having dinner in Maine,which is like, you know, they're
in Massachusetts, and you know,we were up in Maine, and she
said, do you think you couldtune into him and find out what the
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problem is? Yeah, Rhode Island, Salve Regina Lisa was saying, yeah,
so so. So I said,well, you know, let's see,
because I've done some work with peoplewho needed to be crossed over and
that kind of stuff, and we'vekind of you know, but I tried
to connect with him. There wasno crossing him over. He was not
a nice guy. He wasn't.He wasn't like a serial killer, he
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wasn't a demon, he wasn't,and it was none of that. I
just feel like he was from avery different time where women were property and
he was going to do what hewanted to do, and I can do
it because who's going to stop me? And I did try to move him
along, and he left for awhile, and he came back about a
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year later. He was back ather kidding and she ended up finding a
shaman that helped her. And he'sbeen gone ever since as far as I
know, I don't think he'll goback. But you know, but generally
speaking and readings and all that kindsoff, I don't get that kind of
negativity. I don't know. Idon't find that at all. Most are
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just grateful, you know that you'reable to make that connection. But he
was just different, you know,he was just anomaly. Yeah, I
love to know what happened. Ihave a list, very a long list.
When I get to have enough questions, Yeah, what why? You
know? I don't know if anyonewill ever hear back from me with the
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answers to the questions. Yeah,No, I wonder a lot of stuff,
right, I don't really know.And that's the funny thing is,
we don't really know how it works. Even though we do this work and
we still don't know. We stilldon't know. Yeah, Yeah, I
think there's a reason why we don'tknow. I don't actually understand that reason
either, that's one of the questions. But I remember listening to somebody in
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the near death experience, she says, I knew all of it. I
understood everything. It all made sense. But then they said I had to
come back. And when I cameback, they said, you can't remember
it, and so the veil.She said, she felt a veil show
up because she had to live herlife without knowing all of this other stuff,
and I, I don't I'm reallycurious about that. Did you feel
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though, that we have to liveour own journey? I mean, we
don't get any free rides just becausewe have the ability to somehow connect.
We still have to take our owntrip. It's our own journey. Oh
oh, that's why this mystery toit even for us. I don't even
know why. Yeah, the medium, whether whether your mediums or psychics or
you have really amazing gifts, youstill have to do your own personal journey,
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you know exactly. You know,there's no getting out of jail free
card, you know. Yeah,And I've been looking for that, and
I know I don't understand it.But yeah, there's a lot of mysteries
in life. But when I gointo people's ucashak records and they're saying,
how come this didn't happen or howcome I can't have this there, there
will generally not be one hundred percentclear answer, but there'll be a redirect
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or there'll be some kind of openingup to say, did you think about
it this way? And if youknew to do this, you wouldn't do
this over here, But doing thisover here has made you very strong and
wise in this area. And lookat how many people you could help,
or something like that, which iswhy one of my question is how come
I wasn't born a wealthy person?Why do we struggle with money? And
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uh, well, because you know, and sometimes I say, no,
I want to know. Just itis what it is. But there are
many things that our souls will design, and we actually will design it with
our souls. Yeah, and overdoit sometimes where we'll have specific experiences to
cause a specific feelings and solutions willcome up and those experiences will deepen a
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wisdom for the soul. So thereis a design for I don't want to
say, and I'm not meaning tosay, there's a design to come in
and be you know, an abusedchild, That's what I'm talking about.
But there could be a pressure ofcertain bonding patterns or certain understandings that as
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you push through them, you growand and you have a lot to offer
from that growth. So that's kindof where I'm where I've gotten a lot
of answers from. And what's yoursense on, you know, in terms
of the ACASTROC records, what's yoursense on people who are genuinely not good
people? You know, history ithas shown a lot. You know,
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we have serial killers, we havedictators, we have all of these things,
and we know they're not good people. No, And I know this
is sort of theoretical, right,I mean, yeah, yeah, But
that is such a good question becauseeveryone asks and there's some people that just
cannot buy into some of the spiritualstuff because they want the bad people to
go to hell. And in myjourney of asking that question, first,
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there is some there's mentally ill people, and we have genetic mental illness or
genetic we've we've missed the gene forEmPATH empathy, or we come we're just
born sociopaths. So there's that andpeople have to learn how to live with
it. Or they don't know howto learn to live with it, and
they there's there's no right or wrongbutton inside of them. So there's that,
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and then there's a Neil Dla wrotethese children's books about wanting to This
little angel wanted to experience God's loveand the only way he thought he could
experience God's love is to not haveGod's love around him, So he was
going to get born, and thenhis best friend ever said, I'll go
and help you, and I'll bethe mean one to make you think that
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nobody loves you. And it wasvery simplified story, which is they made
this agreement in heaven so that hecould have this experience in the earth on
the biological level and go back toheaven and realize, Oh, now I
understand. And that was really creativeof the writer to write that. But
it got me thinking about if wehad life in the perfect human version of
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perfect, would we learn and growwhat our soul wanted us to learn and
grow. So, of course we'reall free to make our decisions and make
bad decisions good decisions, or Idon't care about you anymore, or I
or I have ideals inside of ourselvesthat are just belief systems that are not
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serving anybody. But you know,some of the belief systems and some of
the early some of the Christians inthe Middle Ages kind of thing pretty horrendous,
or you know, the I don'twant to get into anything current,
but where people were justifying killing eachother because of their religion and because this
is what God wants me to do. And I puzzle over that a lot.
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But people justify you spirituality to justifybeing horrible to each other. So
what do you do with those people? What do you do with those people?
I think you got to turn itover to heaven. And they go
back and they have a long talkwith their soul and they said, well
did you what did you learn?What happened? But there are many people
that then have the experience of losingtheir lives. For I had this experience
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of losing my life and I'm avictim to somebody else's wrath, So what
did you learn from that? AndI don't like that plan, but it
is a plan, So you can'treally and I've judged somebody else's life based
on what you think is right orwrong. And that's a spiritualist philosophy as
a matter of fact, a littleprinciple in there where you don't know what
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where there there they've been, Youdon't know what their background is, and
you don't know what the spiritual pressureson them. You don't let them hurt
you. You certainly don't let peoplehave a free ride and run hurt on
you. But to decide to judgethem whether they should go to heaven or
hell isn't our job. If that'skind of the philosophy I've come up with,
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Although there's a lot of people I'dlike to knock their heads together.
So what are you thinking about?You know, the spiritualism I believe in,
And hell no, everyone goes tohome. Everyone goes home. So
is there any kind of uh punishmentfor behavior that's well yeah, well,
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but spiritualism teaches is the reciprocity orthe balance of life. What you do,
what causes comes back to you andyou and you have you're responsible for
what you do and say responsible foryour own happiness. So when you go
home, you have to right theship, you have to balance the scales,
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you have to do whatever it takestoo. And I don't know what
those things actually are. I haven'tbeen there in a while, but they
but you do have to balance thelife, and you are responsible and accountable
for how you've lived your life.Even though there is an accountability, it's
not just you chalk it up toI just decided that I was going to
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be like this because I wanted toexperience being a serial killer. So I
want to go, you know,so you know, I don't know who
would want to do that, butbut you are, and that's that's a
good point. You are a spiritualist. You're in the Spiritualist church. You
were you were ordained as a spiritualistand if that's the right word, clergy
journey within. I believe Lisa,she's still here, Lisa. I think
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we met at the Journey Within inNew Jersey when we were together there and
I guess it was September. Nowshe's still here, Lisa. You can
say, hi, I believe thatwe that we met there and and you
you were brought into Janet, who'syou know, sadly no longer with us.
But do you do you serve inthe capacity You don't obviously serve there
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every week because that's you know,how many Oh it's too far, no,
but there's many spiritualist church as youknow, you know in the New
England area, then I can certainlydrive to. So I do serve many
churches where either you know, togive the message the lecture work, or
do the message mediumship work, oror do a workshop. I've been doing
that for years and years and soI continue to do it. And in
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my home church, Quincy Church,I do work there as well. I'm
not a pastor of a church andI but I do my own ministry.
I guess you could call it thatnot trying to what's my ministry is just
to show people that they're not alone, that they're loved, and I feel
like that's the biggest message. Andmediumship is to say, you know,
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yes we do go home and theirlife does continue after the change called death,
but when we're here, we're stillloved and we're not alone, although
there's a lot of illusion of beingalone in this lifetime here on this planet.
For some reason, you were createdhuman beings and social animals, and
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then we isolate each other. Sowe don't quite have the program reate down't
pat yet, but in any event, Yeah, so that's kind of my
background and it's really interesting to seethe field the blend or experience the blend
that's happened for me through mediumship andthen I was raised Catholic and moving you
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know, away from the although Istill have a lot of the Catholic I
love the Catholic some of the beliefsand some of the things. But what
am I trying to say? Theblending of a kashak record work with the
mediumship work has been fascinating for spiritto be dragging me down that pathway,
but taking me down that pathway becauseit's about connecting to your soul, your
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eternal self, and being a partnerwith your internal self to have a fulfilling
life. You know, I thinkso, and I think I don't know.
For me, I feel like I'vechanged a lot since just I think
the whole spiritual awakening has done alot for me. You know, you
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look at things differently, you feeldifferently, and you live in a way
because I was also raised Catholic.Okay, so I have that. I
have that background, and it's hardto shake that, you know, the
whole Catholic guilt, I don't wantto call it Catholic guilt, but it
sticks with you, you know whatI mean? It sticks with you,
and you know I can't. Ican't just separate that from who I am.
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But I feel like since I haveawakened spiritually that idea of a of
an afterlife and that life continues togo on, well, it's become real
for me because somehow I have away to kind of either connect in some
way that I think I didn't haveit before. It was just on faith.
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Now it's on this sense of awarenessexperience. Yeah, yeah, you
know it. So yeah, youjust you just kind of know it.
And I think you realize that thereare people out there doing good work bringing
light and positivity to people, andI think that's just a beautiful thing really
and truly, you know, yeah, you need more of those. Yeah,
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we do. We do. Now, do you actually have a physical
location where you are or are youjust is everything kind of remote? You
don't have a store or something likethat. No, I don't have a
I don't have a brick and mortarplace that that happened that died along along
with a lot of other things thatfinancially, so I do remote, but
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I also a lot of my workis out of state, is people are
from far away, so so havinga zoom or remote setup or if something
or phone. Sometimes people look likein the computer, so I do a
lot of phone readings con conference callso I can record them. Yeah.
So the outreach goes sometimes India oras far as India, I should say,
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over England, and I did somework with people in Scotland and then
Deadmark, so I mean most ismost of is people from around the country.
So hey, Brandon, thanks forwatching. Now Brandon, Brandon,
Brandon. I believe this is theBrandon that I met the other night because
I was on your show. BrandonI believe is a shaman and he does
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have a show. So I'm gladyou stopped in. Brandon. Nice to
see you. Yeah, yeah,yeah, it's just nice to see people
popping in and saying hi here.Yeah. It is cool. It's great,
it is. It is cool.I think, sorry, I've got
a brain like a calendar, andI apologize. I saw him pop up
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and now I'm gone, this iswhat it is. It is what it
is, part blonde, part gray. It's a bad combination. What were
we We were just just saying somethingthat I apologize is just completely went out
the door. As soon as Isaw that you were a brick and mortar,
and I was saying, well,I'm yeah, yeah, and so
you know I'm accessible, you know, from from any walks of this for
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any geographic galarius. Just there's noplace to drive up in, park your
car and come in. No,but you know, I think people get
used to that with you know,after COVID, people realized that they didn't
need to. You know, Istill got a few people occasionally like to
come in and do in person.But the zoom or you know, however
you do it, zoom whatever,it's it's just it works. It works
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really well. Do you travel?I mean you and I met in Quinsy
at the Spiritualist Church. Yeah.Yeah. And the story behind that was
you having that demonstration class on platformPlatform NA with Sheila French from England.
And I had lost my mom lastyear and I was thinking to myself,
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it was you know, how whatam I going to do on Mother's Day?
I was dreading it. I haveto tell you, I was dreading
it, and all of a sudden, I can't believe there's this class on
platform mediumship on Mother's Day. I'mgoing because I just need to be doing
something else. And so yeah,I don't know why it was on Mother's
Day. I don't care. Itwas just a great thing and it was
perfect for me. And it wasa small turnout, I think probably because
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it was my it was Mother's Day. We had a long conversation about why
are you doing this on Mother's Day? Well, then that's when she can
come. But it was I won'tdo it again, but I'm so glad
you came. I'm so glad forme. I mean, I probably would
have liked to have come anyway,but the fact that it was Mother's Day
was like that was that was theextra piece for me because I knew that
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I would be able to stay focused. So it was it was perfect and
glad to do. And then Imet you, which is great, and
you know, I appreciate everything wedo. We have a new connection,
you know. Yeah. No,I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled to meet
to meet you, and you wereyou actually came in and you were really
focused and you're really ready to workand you were there one hundred percent.
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And it's like, this guy isawesome. This guy, No, I
don't know. Well, you know, the interesting thing is I've only been
to the church in Quincy twice.The Spirituals Church of Quincy, And the
first time I was there was inNovember of twenty two and I came and
it was odd. My mom hadbeen brought to the hospital. She was
coming home the next day, butshe was coming home on Monday. But
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I was there on Sunday and theyasked, you know, who do you
want healing for? And I puther name in the basket and that kind
of thing. And I went tothe service and people were so friendly.
There's another man there and I can'tthink of his name now, but he
also does spirit art and he justtook me around and was I know,
if he said his name, Iprobably know who he is. He's an
older gentleman. But oh, James, Yeah, James, that's it James.
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And he took me around. Itwas showing me different things and introducing
me to people. And then thenext day my mom died unexpectedly. I
mean, it was just that itwas like that, and so I didn't
go back there right away. Ittook me some time to kind of feel
like I'm ready, you know,I wasn't. It just wasn't. I
wasn't ready. But it had nothingto do with the church or anything.
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It was just me and then Mother'sDay was the next time I went back,
and I was so grateful to havethat opportunity. So it was beautiful
spirit. It is spirit thing.Yeah, yeah, So we made all
those plans all those months ago withoutknowing that you needed to go, but
Spirit knew that you would need that. So that was sorry to comment,
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Deer, sorry to comment deer yourclass, but I was really grateful that
that I had that opportunity. AndSheila was great. She was she was
great. She started out there Findleyright, yeah, no, no,
did she teach her, but shehas her own thing. She has her
own thing. She used to teachit Arthur Feelly then and then she opened
up her own thing called Erchham Starand in England and she has a very
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good I haven't been there, butI taken online classes where her students were
there and they're very good. Yes, So so I don't know, I
keep taking you off the cash records. I feel like we're just kind of
journeying and talking along as we go. I have because I know we're running.
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We're getting close to the end here, believe it or not. Time
just kind of flies. But Ido want to just I have to ask
you this because I saw one ofyour shows on your podcast and it was
a woman that came on and youwere talking about fairies. Oh yeah,
I can't remember her name. Yeah, is that a thing, Jennafine Hackett,
Yes, it's really a thing.I went to. I'll give you
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my experience. She's seen them plentyof times. But I went to Lilydale
and there is a place in lilyDale where it's full of fairies. And
a friend took me there and Ican't say where it is, but we
sat there and I saw fairies,all different colors and lights. It was
the middle of the night, alldifferent different colors, lights, different color
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sizes, and they were not apattern that you could say, oh that's
that or this is that. Theywere definitely not fireflies either, because there
were different colors and different sizes,and they had their movements were very expressive.
So yeah, now you see themwith your eyes because their physical beings
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said like you're seeing like you know, yes, yes, and they're a
little little well yeah, like thumbnail, you know, kind of really little.
That's what I only saw the lights. So I'm fascinated by it.
And I know if you go overto like I don't know if it's Ireland
or Scotland. I mean they havea really big I mean I think they
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moved a highway because there was atree there that the fairies hung out in
and they around it. They wentaround it came island of Scotland. Now
I can't remember, but I thinkthat that's it's just so they take it
serious, but but you know it'snot. You're taught growing up, well,
let's tinker bellance, She's not reallyreal. You know, that's Disney,
And you know, we're told alot of things aren't really real.
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And so I feel that sometimes it'sgroup hypnosis because if you tell somebody enough
times and it's not really real,they'll stop noticing it. But if you
don't say that to somebody and theystart seeing what's exactly in front of them,
they're not socialized in that way.They just oh that, see you
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know what's that? Mama? Yeah, looking at But well, don't you
think it's like that with our kidstoo, Like like some kids, I
my son has his own this psychicstyle. He's only ten, so you
know, we're not like too deep, but he's definitely got his psychic stuff
going on. I can tell.I can tell the way he hears things
and talks to people, you know, and you're not. But I think
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either, well, that's the differenceis I'm not. I'm acknowledging it.
Like he'll hear them calling his nameand and you know, Nicholas, Nicholas,
you know, and was like that, I hear them, I could
feel them touching my leg. Andhe doesn't do it because he knows that
I do that. He was doingthis. He's been doing this forever,
you know what I mean, he'sjust been able to. Yeah, but
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I think that he uh, youknow, I if he if I were
the type of person that was like, oh, come on, that's nothing.
I think they shut that stuff downjust like you said, you know,
I think people would be more open. And I think that that is,
you know, as we awaken,as I said, because do you
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feel like people are on this awakeningtoo? Oh yeah, I really really
hope so. Anyway, but Ido see more and more people waking up,
and I see more children thinking differentkinds. Well, children have always
thought independently until they're socialized. Butthere are a lot of gifted kids and
they're not shutting down, you know, puberty shuts us down, no doubt
about it. But they're not shutting. Some of them just aren't there.
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They're still in that space and it'swonderful to see. But they don't get
a lot of support for what theysay well, And I think that's the
difference. And it's finny because Ichat with a woman on her show the
other night and she is the mediuI mean, she she has two children
who are also very, very gifted, and she said, you'll watch it
happen like they were strong and thenthey went through puberty and it kind of
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it's almost like it goes away andthen it comes back, you know,
when they come back around. SoI'm fully expecting that to happen. You
know. Good. Yeah, So, Nancy, we have a few minutes
left. Obviously we have your websiteright at the bottom of the page here.
Yeah, what else would you lovepeople to know? I mean,
do you have places you're going tobe events or things where people want to
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I absolutely do. I have thisFebruary coming up, a mediumship and art
development class. It's on my website, so starting February third. I'm really
excited about it. People are It'sa different way of teaching mediumship and so
I'm combining the artwork. But youdon't have to be an amazing artist.
We're just using the pencil of thedrawing on the paper to as another psychic
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gift, so you can get informationfrom your drawing. And people have been
enjoying the class. I've been comingback teaching at lily Dale again for the
fifth year in a row. It'llbe there June twenty second, twenty third,
teaching Mediumship art again. So that'skind of a theme. And then
how you go there? Anybody goto Lilydale and take a class. Yes,
anybody, anybody never been. Ikeep saying I need to got to
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have enough mighty get through the gatethere. You no no yet, anyone
can go and it's a really funplace to be. Lots of history there,
lots of energy there. And thenin April I start my next to
Kashak Journey Intensive. It's a sixmonth intensive and it's you can use it
as soon as you start learning it. People use it to heal their lives
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or develop or take their lives tothe next level. But also people come
in who are professionals and they'll takethe class and they'll add it to their
tool bag. And you don't haveto be a medium to take the class.
I asked you this, but justso people know, you do not
have to be a medium. Soyou know, Christina is a Is anyone
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abscessed the Kashak records, Yes,you just have to learn how to do
that because everyone, yes, andthat's a whole class and why but yes,
anyone can can take it. Peoplehave taken it and said, you
know, this isn't a beginner classbecause I do take us all into the
deep pool pretty quick. But Isee people doing the work and they're doing
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quite well with it, so Ilove it. I love it. So
I just want to say before weclose out the show. Next week,
we are not here live. Myson has a band concert and I have
to be there. I cannot behere while he's up on stage playing his
drums, so we are going tobe there, but we did record the
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show. Laura Hellickson, who stoppedin and said hello, is our guest
next week. Laura is. Sheis quite quite an individual and she is
very I think intuitive to a certaindegree. But she makes these devices that
are they're crystal pods and they pickup on magnetic waves and you know,
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you can tell when there's spirit around. Looks so like a rampod, but
it's done with crystals and everything,and they're absolutely beautiful, and she makes
the designer for different people and shedoes so she's gonna be on the show
next week. We had such afun chat and so she is on next
week with that is a recorded show, and the following week, Christina and
I are traveling to San Antonio foran event, so we'll be down there,
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so that will also be a recordedshow, and we're doing that on
Monday, so we'll have that nextweek. But I just want to say
thank you to you, Nancy.It's been an absolute pleasure having you,
and of course this fifty four minutesalways sort of flies by, and I
am going to be reaching out toyou because I'm very interested in the class,
and I hope other people will lookyou up, find her podcast,
like her Facebook page, everything,And we appreciate you every week. So
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have a good week, everybody,enjoy and we'll see you next time.
Thank you so much. You've beenlistening to the Paranormal Project radio show with
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The Paranormal Project Radio Show, carryyour hosts Scott Allen and Christina Bowen.
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Hello everyone, and welcome back tothe part Paranormal Project Radio Show. Christina,
it's so good to have you withus. How are you? I'm
good? How are you doing tonight? Scott good? Good, excellent,
So good to see you. Andyou know, we do all of these
shows, we have some fun guests, but I really do always love bringing
in medium friends and talking about allof the stuff that the spiritual and the
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metaphysical bring. And tonight we havea guest with us that's going to talk
about something that we have not talkedabout on this show yet and I'm very
interested in it. We're going tobe talking about the Akashak records, and
I don't know if a lot ofpeople know what the Akashak Records are,
but we're going to get into thattonight. And she does spirit art and
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she does a whole bunch of otherthings. So actually, Chanell, if
we could bring our guests out,welcome Nancy Smith to the show. How
are you good? Thank you forhaving me on. This is exciting.
Yeah, and you also have yourown show, and what night is your
show? Is it? Tuesday nightsTuesday nights on Facebook Live called Angel Scapes
Podcast, but it's on all thepodcast stations also on YouTube, so if
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you can't make it to Facebook,you can find me. You can find
it later. And I love thatbecause you get some really nice guests on
your show too, talking about allkinds of things that I've never really had
a whole lot of experience with,even though I do this, like fairies
and all this other stuff. Soas a matter of fact, I've taken
note on some of your guests,so I got to look them up and
see, Oh, you know,so we know, let me know.
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Welcome, Welcome. I'm so gladthat you. I'm so glad you were
able to join us. Tell me. We talked a little bit about what
we wanted to talk to and andI think one of the things that you're
passionate about, and I know thatyou and I have talked about this is
the Akashak Records. Right, whatare the Akashak Records? Well, the
Akashak Records really fast history. HelenaBlovatsky traveled around the world, and she's
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wealth and could do whatever she wanted, and she was lucky at that time
and studied old old religions and shefound in the Sanskrit religion and Sanskrit language
see called Akasha or Akahak records,is the idea that the creator Akasha is
the energy of the Creator. It'sa very indelible energy. Everything the Creator
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has ever created since he started creating, she started creating, is in the
Zakashak field, which people call theAkashak records. And then move ahead a
few more years and Edgar Casey startedwith the Unconscious Prophet, started to read
from what he called the Akashak records, and he did a lot of past
life work. So many people connectAkashak records and past life work as well.
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So that's kind of a little bitof the history of it. But
most important to remember is the wordakasha is about energy and spirit and records
is just a recording or our collectionof information in the Akashak realm, in
the big Kahuna heaven of the Creator. So it's a really nice place to
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go because there's lots of information therewhen you go there psychically, when you
go there intuitively, and it reallyis sort of like the record of everything,
past, present and future correct everything. Yeah, and we all have
our own kind of records within Absolutely, we all have our own We have
our souls, and our souls havetheir records. And then within each this
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is how I understand it. Witheach umbrella of the soul, or all
these lifetimes within the soul and eachindividual all the way down to your hangnails,
there's a record of your experience ofyour life and all of your lives
and lives on other planets and livesand other dimensions. And it's very cunning.
And that's funny too, because Iwas going to say that to you.
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I felt like it's our soul's journey, not just us here in this
life at this time. It's oursoul's journey. Do you believe that our
souls have lived on other when wehave past lives? Can we have past
lives other places? Other? Absolutely? Absolutely. I've always wondered, and
I've just been a student of manyof these different past life philosophies, And
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how do you prove of past life? And you can prove a past life,
It's not a small thing to do. But yes, you can have
experiences on other planets, other dimensions. You can have experiences in your future
self because in the soul realm timeis is not linear. Time is more
like a loop or a big bubble, and you can access that information just
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by reaching out and kind of meditatingor just reaching out metaphysically and getting it
so and it's really amazing to mehow many times I've bumped into people who
their past life is on another planet. I actually have some water colors that
I painted of other planets. AsI saw them from the reading that I
gave, and as I drew themand showed them to the clients, they
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were like, oh my god,that's exactly what I remember, or that's
exactly what I dream of, orit's very close, and it's and to
me, it's amazing that one ofthe lifetimes was the planet that was dying,
and the beings were very ancient andthey knew that their planet was dying
and they were preparing their next adventureas biological beings on another planet. It
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was just amazing. That's fascinating.So when you dive in, when you
dive in to do this with them, it's not like what you think of
as a past life regression through hypnosis. It's not that it's a different way
of approaching it. Well, youcan certainly get through the past life through
hypnosis and regression, and that's stillthe ecashic records I'll just share with you
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with that. But when I takepeople through past lives, I do it
more of a shamanic journey. Well, I will take them through and they're
very much aware and they can becreative. The thing that happens when I'm
taking them through, I'm often viewingthe lifetime with them. So if they
come back with one or two things, I'll say, oh, did you
notice the fuzzy blue thing in thecorner, and they say, oh,
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yeah, that's right. So Iused my mediumship skills to travel with them
on the shamanic journey, and Ifeel many a few people have said I
can't be hypnotized. I've never beenhypnotized, but they are able to go
on the shamanic journey kind of thing. So interesting, and I think I've
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experienced I mean, not that specifically, but I had an experience once with
a woman who has been a hugehelp to me as I was opening up
years ago, and she is ashaman and I didn't believe what was going
on, and we did some ofthese things where she took me on this
journey. But she was with meand she would ask me what I saw
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and then was able to kind oflike I understand that, you know what
I mean, or she would seeit or share it with me, and
I thought that that was really fascinating. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
It's amazing kind of what you cansee and what you can experience. I
just want to also add that theAkashak realm or the Akashak records can be
accessed when you're in high levels ofcreativity or say you're composing music or writing.
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I've seen people just kind of enterinto the Akashak records spontaneously without really
realizing what they're doing. But they'regetting information from that higher realm or from
a library in the Akashak realm,and they they'll come. I remember one
woman who had no inclination to anythingmetaphysical. It was the writer's group.
We were sitting there and meeting oncea couple times a month, and she
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was writing this memoir of this thirteenyear old woman from Ireland and how she
got onto a boat and came toAmerica and how she did and the memory
was so specific, and I'm lookingat her, I said, have you
ever researched. She goes, no, it's just coming through me. And
I said, oh my god,it's you know, I wonder I didn't
know if it was a past lifeor she was just talking to another spirit
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who was describing their life to him, and that that's a kashak work as
far as I'm concerned, see,and I love that. It's fascinating,
and I know you teach a likea mentorship on the akashak work, which
you and I have also talked about, because I'm fascinated with it. I
just don't know what it manifests,you know, how does it manifest?
How do you how do you knowyou're there? And I've done guided meditations
where we've gone in and you know, you can see, But I don't
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know if that's it either, doyou know? Yeah? I think I
think it's one of those things.You you do it, you have the
experience of it, so you getto understand what it is. Somebody explained
this to me once, how doyou know past like you're not just inventing
it or making it up, forinstance, And he said, well,
you know, it's like if Itell you now, I want you to
step into and it's a cold,rainy day and and you're you're freezing,
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and and you'll say to me,no, it's hot, I got to
take my sweater off. I'm reallyand and and it's very arid, and
it's almost like a desert here.That's when you know you're in because it's
specific and you can't change it asmuch as you try to change it.
And in some ways, when you'rein the Acajac records, you can't decide
that you want it to be somethingelse. It is what it is.
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And that's when you know that you'reconnected to an intelligent memory kind of thing.
So have you have you been doingthat a while? I mean,
how do you you know? Isthat a big part of what you do
now is the Akasha and the Kashakwork. And even when I do my
mediumship, I open up the Acahakrecords so that I it's like a boost.
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It's like it's like putting a speciallittle boost in my ears to hear
more because I'm in that a Kashakvibration, the Kashak field of energy.
And I want to say that whenwe pass over, we're in the we
go to the Akashak realm. It'sthe energy of the Creator. It's it's
heaven. So yes, it's abig part of what I do and my
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mentorships really work on self healing andconnecting yourself to your soul and self awareness
and understanding the what I call thethree levels of consciousness within yourself, so
that you can maneuver through how youwere created physically and the ego that you
have, your aware of self,and then your higher self, and how
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you integrate them all. And oncesomething aspects of ourselves become integrated with our
soul, our soul is really wantsto know what we're up to and what
we're doing, and wants to havethat information that we hide it from our
spiritual self. I don't want youto know how bad I was yesterday.
But when I call that integration work, some people big talk a new age
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about ascension, we're ascending, AndI said, well, this is ascension
work. This is when we integrateour life's experience with our soul and that
information is in the Creator's realm we'rein. That's it. That's what we're
here for. If that makes senseto you, I do. I think
it's I think it's great. Soand you also do spirit art which I
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also am fascinated with. I knowthat, and I've had this conversation with
other people that when I see Spirit, I don't know if I see them
as they are or if I seethem has how I need to understand who
they are? Right? Well,I tell you it's both. Let me
tell you. Can I just talka little bit about that, Yeah,
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I will. When I first starteddrawing, I was seeing spare and I
was actually seeing their faces clairvoyantly,and I was trying to sketch it.
As a matter of fact. Icould look at the paper and a shadow
a face will come up, andI would sketch you around and I would
sketch in the shadows and then andthat's how I got my faces. But
then after a while, Spirit kindof evolved me into they just wanted me
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to do automatic, and I'm like, I didn't want to do automatic.
I just wanted to be I wantedto know what I was drawing. And
so now I can get information andfaces or faces that remind me of somebody
else, so that I can getthe information that I need to give to
them. But I have to letthat go and just let the face flow
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through me. So I have asystem that I've created about so that my
mind has a place where to whatto do with the information. Is this
is where the forehead goes, Thisis where the chin goes. This is
the perspective or the proportion. SoI get the correct and then I say,
Okay, now we've got this goingon. How big is the nose,
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how white is the nose? Where? And then I'll get a feel
for where it goes or where itdoesn't go. And I have to say,
these are not Kodak moments. Idon't know that any spirit artists has
done a Kodak moment except for exceptfor maybe Coral Pold. And then there's
the other guy, Frederick. Hisname is Remington, but he they're amazing
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spirit artists. But I have capturedenough usually for somebody to recognize, yeah,
that that's in the realm of youknow. Yeah he did have that
pointed chin and those eyes because somethingwith the hair kind of thing. Did
you were you were you an artistbefore or did that just kind of come
to you? You were? Iwas? I I was illustrator. I
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went to red in school design anddid a lot of figure drawing, a
lot of work. And then justas this phenomena happened to me. I
was drawing portraits of my kids,my friend's kids, because I was at
the age where we were all havingkids, so I was just sketching them
for money. So and then thenall of a sudden, I had this
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opening, and I drew and Istarted to draw. Faces started to show
up on the paper, and Istarted to draw those faces, and people
were recognizing them as being their lovedones who had passed, And I said,
what the heck's going on here?So spirits snuck up on me,
I think, but I kind ofjokingly say that, you know, unless
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your grandmother looked like a stick figurein life, you probably I couldn't get
him mixed it from me. Idon't think that's not going to work out.
So did you open up later inlife? Was this? Was this
a later in life? Well?I think so. What I did is
I was, it's always kind ofreally a sensitive kid, and I always
excuse me. I always saw thingsthat weren't there, you know, and
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my imagination was crazy. But thenover time kind of shut it down and
and didn't pay attention to that crazystuff anymore. And then it was when
I had my kids, and whenyou're a mother, you have to have
eyes in the back of your head. So that just triggered my intuition and
it got stronger and stronger. Andthe thing that finally put it into place
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was my daycare provider had a murderin her family. Her brother in law
shot and killed on the job,and they were upset and weren't quite sure
what's happening. And I'm listening toher and all these little kids are running
around and some and there's a phenomenaof when you touch something, of getting
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what was the name of that,When you touch something, information starts coming
through his there is that you've saidit, go get it. But anyway,
the car that he was killed inwas flatbedded into her backyard, and
all the kids are running around.She said, oh my god, can
you help me. I have toclean this out for my husband sees it.
He's going to be so upset.So I went in there and collected
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the papers, put them in garbagebags, figured out what stuff needed to
be meetened up and brought back intothe house. And when I did that,
this man's spirit just centered into myorc field and started telling me one
story after another. I thought Iwas just losing my mind, and so
that's when I really yes, psychometry, Yes, psychometry, that's it.
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My first experience with mediumship was throughpsychometry and wow. And when I went
home, these faces would not stop, and so I laid out all my
sketching materials and they started coming upfrom the paper and I started sketching them.
I had did five or six orseven, I can't remember how many.
Brought them over to her and sherecognized that's my brother in law.
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That's my thought, and that's theguy that just came to my house,
and I swear he's the one thatshot him. And it just was hebe
GEB's everywhere. God. So allof it went to the police for several
months and then it came back tome, and of course you never know
what happens, you know, andthey don't say much in those police investigations.
So that was my first police investigation. And so that's that's how it
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started. And I didn't even honestlydid not know what mediumship was and did
not know what a medium was,and I had to learn. So that
was I guess that was a littlelater opening up. Yeah, And I
feel like for me, it wasnot what I saw in the movie.
So I don't think I recognized whatwas really happening. It took a while,
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plus I worked in a funeral homefor thirty five I was going to
ask you that, Yeah, youthink any of that happened while you were
working in the funeral home. Didyou ever have a sense there was there
were Yeah, it was over aperiod of time, but it was just
coincidences. Oh, they're just coincidences, you know. There was that kind
of thing. And then I remembertowards the end of it, I remember
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feeling like there's something around me,Like I could feel it, like why
is it moving? You know?I could feel like there was something around
me. I could feel energy withmy hands, which I never thought I
could feel before, and to beable to manipulate that. And then I
started noticing like there's people walking upand down the stairs. I could hear
it. And and actually, Imean, I think the reason that I
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do all of this sort of paranormalstuff is because that's how it manifested.
For me. It felt like aghost. I felt like I had a
spirit attachment. Is what it reallyfelt like to me. It was almost
a ghost story. And it's notlike that now. I mean, once
I learned to control it, youcan shut it off and kind of go
about your life. Yeah, that'show it started. That's how it started
for me. And it was reallyactually kind of frightening. Oh yeah,
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I bet you can shut it downlike that. I can, and I
try to. Some of it Ican't. There was I've had been in
a couple of different houses that havehad spirits in them that didn't want to
leave, and I tried, likeheck to get him to just be quiet
already, because you liked to makenoise at night, and so I couldn't
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quiet him down. But when Igo grocery shop and when I'm out in
public, I'm very sensitized sensitive,So I have to shut it down and
I just bring my aura close intome. Sometimes I imagine shutting my third
eye. And sometimes I put earbudsin my ears and play either play books
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on tab or I'll play music justso that I can't feel the vibration of
everything around me. So, yeah, I do have to shut it down.
And if I don't shut it down, right, Scott, if you
don't shut it down, your it'sdraining. It was draining training. Although
I feel like I'm a little differentin the sense that I have it perpetually
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shut off. I mean, weset that intention a long time ago that
it's not on unless I turn iton. And so when I'm out and
about, I tend to be distractedand I don't notice, you know,
But when I sit and do areading, I'm like, Okay, it's
time, you can come now,and taking all sunglasses. Yeah, so
now there's some kind of thing.But I told you. I do the
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when I open up the Acastac records, when I do Mediumship, and that's
my way of really opening up.And then I close. I say a
prayer that closes the Acascac records,and that closes me. Because that's been
really helpful because I was doing allof these little opening and closings, opening
and closings. But when I gotinto that really I'm serious prayer that helped
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me really set up a nice boundarybecause I didn't want to turn off my
intuition about my life in general,but I didn't want to talk to Okay
so much. So I'll tell youthis story really fast. I lived next
door to a undertaker, had greatneighbors. They moved out the undertaker moved
in full of attachments. You couldfeel them and all the time and see
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them. So one day he camehome and I heard the shoveling of this
dirt and I looked out. Hehad taken a bunch of loam from the
cemetery and put him in the backtrunk of his car, and he was
shoveling out to put them into hisgarden. And you know, dirt is
a really good medium. And mykitchen was full, and I had said,
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everyone out of here, and ohmy god. This one time I
was getting out of the shower andthis one man had passed in his I
think in his forties. He stillhad younger kids, and he was panicked
and he was he didn't have ashirt on, and he said, I
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have to find my wife, Ihave to find my kids. I don't
know. He was a little bitworked up. And I said, well,
hold on a minute, what happened? And then I started to get
the information of what he had avery fast cornary and he wasn't and he
was still kind of trying to sortit out, so he was not quite
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on the other side. Yet.That doesn't hardly ever happen. And I
was surprised. So I brought myteam in, my eight team of angels,
and I said, I have reallygood messengers for you, and I
hooked them up with my helpers.But I think that I had that experience
because I was right next door tothe Undertaker and they had a fast track
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over to my house. And Idon't think in general, you know,
people who deal with death, they'vejust they've shut off all of that because
you just have to do your joband that's it. So he's bringing dirt
home or whatever else he's doing.He's not even thinking about it. He's
just, you know, I'm justgonna there's some great dirt, let's just
put it in WI. Meanwhile,you're getting bombarded. He's walking his dog
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down the street and I'm watching,you know, there's at least one person
following him. I'm like, ohgee, this poor guy. And he
was getting more and more cranky.So he needed a good clearing and he
needed a good talking to. Butanyway, I just had to tell you
that story. Well, it isfascinating. Do you see them. You
don't see them visually, like sortof externally, it's all like mind's eyes
stuff. Yeah, mind's eye there. Although have you ever had this experience
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where you see something at the cornerof your eye and you look and it's
not there, but it's there.It's like the peripheral vision can be really
active. And so sometimes I'll I'llsay, wait a minute, that's the
third time I caught that, andI'll start talking to them. I have
a strong sense that when we pass, or that when anyone passes, there's
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a whole team. We're worth awhole team right now, And I'm like,
you've got your guardian angel, You'vegot your your healer guide, You've
got all this. So when we'rein the process of passing, all of
those guides are there helping you,you know, move to the other side.
So I don't necessarily think souls getlost or spirits get lost, but
they can leave residual energy behind themunless they want a specific thing, and
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then they're there on purpose. SoI don't have all of the answers,
but I do have a sense ofidea of it's not a scary thing to
pass. We don't get lost orhelped. Doesn't matter what you've done in
your life, you always go tothat loving place. You got to sort
it out and you've got to faceup the stuff that you've done or didn't
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do. But I don't know howmany people agree with me or don't agree
with me, but it's a prettygood system. This going back into spirit.
As far as I can tell,I think it's more scary how and
you know how it's going to happen, as opposed to when it happens.
I think, yeah, absolutely,I agree. But yeah, so you
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kind of feel that way too,that I really have connected with a spirit
who was mean or frustrated or outof control or anything like that. They
always I don't generally, but Iwill tell you an interesting story if you
don't mind, and you're the guests, but this is on that line.
And I had dinner with a friendin Maine a couple of years ago.
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Her daughter is very, very,very intuitive, and I mean extremely but
she doesn't do it. She shutsit off. She just doesn't want anything
to do with it. They wantsomething to do with her. It's like
they can see the light. Shehad gone to school in Salve, Regina,
which is that I think that's aNewport or something, and she was
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in an area that was quite hauntedand she felt like there was this spirit
that followed her back home. Shekept seeing the shadow figure around her better
house was not haunted, and thather mother, who's also quite intuitive,
was getting it as well, andhad gone away for a while. She
was going to get married. Shewas living with her fiance and he was
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back and he was around harassing her, waking up, you know, and
there he is over the bed.She couldn't get rid of him. So
we're sitting having dinner in Maine,which is like, you know, they're
in Massachusetts, and you know,we were up in Maine, and she
said, do you think you couldtune into him and find out what the
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problem is? Yeah, Rhode Island, Salve Regina Lisa was saying, yeah,
so so. So I said,well, you know, let's see,
because I've done some work with peoplewho needed to be crossed over and
that kind of stuff, and we'vekind of you know, but I tried
to connect with him. There wasno crossing him over. He was not
a nice guy. He wasn't.He wasn't like a serial killer, he
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wasn't a demon, he wasn't,and it was none of that. I
just feel like he was from avery different time where women were property and
he was going to do what hewanted to do, and I can do
it because who's going to stop me? And I did try to move him
along, and he left for awhile, and he came back about a
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year later. He was back ather kidding and she ended up finding a
shaman that helped her. And he'sbeen gone ever since as far as I
know, I don't think he'll goback. But you know, but generally
speaking and readings and all that kindsoff, I don't get that kind of
negativity. I don't know. Idon't find that at all. Most are
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just grateful, you know that you'reable to make that connection. But he
was just different, you know,he was just anomaly. Yeah, I
love to know what happened. Ihave a list, very a long list.
When I get to have enough questions, Yeah, what why? You
know? I don't know if anyonewill ever hear back from me with the
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answers to the questions. Yeah,No, I wonder a lot of stuff,
right, I don't really know.And that's the funny thing is,
we don't really know how it works. Even though we do this work and
we still don't know. We stilldon't know. Yeah, Yeah, I
think there's a reason why we don'tknow. I don't actually understand that reason
either, that's one of the questions. But I remember listening to somebody in
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the near death experience, she says, I knew all of it. I
understood everything. It all made sense. But then they said I had to
come back. And when I cameback, they said, you can't remember
it, and so the veil.She said, she felt a veil show
up because she had to live herlife without knowing all of this other stuff,
and I, I don't I'm reallycurious about that. Did you feel
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though, that we have to liveour own journey? I mean, we
don't get any free rides just becausewe have the ability to somehow connect.
We still have to take our owntrip. It's our own journey. Oh
oh, that's why this mystery toit even for us. I don't even
know why. Yeah, the medium, whether whether your mediums or psychics or
you have really amazing gifts, youstill have to do your own personal journey,
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you know exactly. You know,there's no getting out of jail free
card, you know. Yeah,And I've been looking for that, and
I know I don't understand it.But yeah, there's a lot of mysteries
in life. But when I gointo people's ucashak records and they're saying,
how come this didn't happen or howcome I can't have this there, there
will generally not be one hundred percentclear answer, but there'll be a redirect
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or there'll be some kind of openingup to say, did you think about
it this way? And if youknew to do this, you wouldn't do
this over here, But doing thisover here has made you very strong and
wise in this area. And lookat how many people you could help,
or something like that, which iswhy one of my question is how come
I wasn't born a wealthy person?Why do we struggle with money? And
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uh, well, because you know, and sometimes I say, no,
I want to know. Just itis what it is. But there are
many things that our souls will design, and we actually will design it with
our souls. Yeah, and overdoit sometimes where we'll have specific experiences to
cause a specific feelings and solutions willcome up and those experiences will deepen a
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wisdom for the soul. So thereis a design for I don't want to
say, and I'm not meaning tosay, there's a design to come in
and be you know, an abusedchild, That's what I'm talking about.
But there could be a pressure ofcertain bonding patterns or certain understandings that as
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you push through them, you growand and you have a lot to offer
from that growth. So that's kindof where I'm where I've gotten a lot
of answers from. And what's yoursense on, you know, in terms
of the ACASTROC records, what's yoursense on people who are genuinely not good
people? You know, history ithas shown a lot. You know,
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we have serial killers, we havedictators, we have all of these things,
and we know they're not good people. No, And I know this
is sort of theoretical, right,I mean, yeah, yeah, But
that is such a good question becauseeveryone asks and there's some people that just
cannot buy into some of the spiritualstuff because they want the bad people to
go to hell. And in myjourney of asking that question, first,
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there is some there's mentally ill people, and we have genetic mental illness or
genetic we've we've missed the gene forEmPATH empathy, or we come we're just
born sociopaths. So there's that andpeople have to learn how to live with
it. Or they don't know howto learn to live with it, and
they there's there's no right or wrongbutton inside of them. So there's that,
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and then there's a Neil Dla wrotethese children's books about wanting to This
little angel wanted to experience God's loveand the only way he thought he could
experience God's love is to not haveGod's love around him, So he was
going to get born, and thenhis best friend ever said, I'll go
and help you, and I'll bethe mean one to make you think that
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nobody loves you. And it wasvery simplified story, which is they made
this agreement in heaven so that hecould have this experience in the earth on
the biological level and go back toheaven and realize, Oh, now I
understand. And that was really creativeof the writer to write that. But
it got me thinking about if wehad life in the perfect human version of
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perfect, would we learn and growwhat our soul wanted us to learn and
grow. So, of course we'reall free to make our decisions and make
bad decisions good decisions, or Idon't care about you anymore, or I
or I have ideals inside of ourselvesthat are just belief systems that are not
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serving anybody. But you know,some of the belief systems and some of
the early some of the Christians inthe Middle Ages kind of thing pretty horrendous,
or you know, the I don'twant to get into anything current,
but where people were justifying killing eachother because of their religion and because this
is what God wants me to do. And I puzzle over that a lot.
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But people justify you spirituality to justifybeing horrible to each other. So
what do you do with those people? What do you do with those people?
I think you got to turn itover to heaven. And they go
back and they have a long talkwith their soul and they said, well
did you what did you learn?What happened? But there are many people
that then have the experience of losingtheir lives. For I had this experience
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of losing my life and I'm avictim to somebody else's wrath, So what
did you learn from that? AndI don't like that plan, but it
is a plan, So you can'treally and I've judged somebody else's life based
on what you think is right orwrong. And that's a spiritualist philosophy as
a matter of fact, a littleprinciple in there where you don't know what
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where there there they've been, Youdon't know what their background is, and
you don't know what the spiritual pressureson them. You don't let them hurt
you. You certainly don't let peoplehave a free ride and run hurt on
you. But to decide to judgethem whether they should go to heaven or
hell isn't our job. If that'skind of the philosophy I've come up with,
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Although there's a lot of people I'dlike to knock their heads together.
So what are you thinking about?You know, the spiritualism I believe in,
And hell no, everyone goes tohome. Everyone goes home. So
is there any kind of uh punishmentfor behavior that's well yeah, well,
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but spiritualism teaches is the reciprocity orthe balance of life. What you do,
what causes comes back to you andyou and you have you're responsible for
what you do and say responsible foryour own happiness. So when you go
home, you have to right theship, you have to balance the scales,
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you have to do whatever it takestoo. And I don't know what
those things actually are. I haven'tbeen there in a while, but they
but you do have to balance thelife, and you are responsible and accountable
for how you've lived your life.Even though there is an accountability, it's
not just you chalk it up toI just decided that I was going to
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be like this because I wanted toexperience being a serial killer. So I
want to go, you know,so you know, I don't know who
would want to do that, butbut you are, and that's that's a
good point. You are a spiritualist. You're in the Spiritualist church. You
were you were ordained as a spiritualistand if that's the right word, clergy
journey within. I believe Lisa,she's still here, Lisa. I think
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we met at the Journey Within inNew Jersey when we were together there and
I guess it was September. Nowshe's still here, Lisa. You can
say, hi, I believe thatwe that we met there and and you
you were brought into Janet, who'syou know, sadly no longer with us.
But do you do you serve inthe capacity You don't obviously serve there
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every week because that's you know,how many Oh it's too far, no,
but there's many spiritualist church as youknow, you know in the New
England area, then I can certainlydrive to. So I do serve many
churches where either you know, togive the message the lecture work, or
do the message mediumship work, oror do a workshop. I've been doing
that for years and years and soI continue to do it. And in
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my home church, Quincy Church,I do work there as well. I'm
not a pastor of a church andI but I do my own ministry.
I guess you could call it thatnot trying to what's my ministry is just
to show people that they're not alone, that they're loved, and I feel
like that's the biggest message. Andmediumship is to say, you know,
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yes we do go home and theirlife does continue after the change called death,
but when we're here, we're stillloved and we're not alone, although
there's a lot of illusion of beingalone in this lifetime here on this planet.
For some reason, you were createdhuman beings and social animals, and
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then we isolate each other. Sowe don't quite have the program reate down't
pat yet, but in any event, Yeah, so that's kind of my
background and it's really interesting to seethe field the blend or experience the blend
that's happened for me through mediumship andthen I was raised Catholic and moving you
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know, away from the although Istill have a lot of the Catholic I
love the Catholic some of the beliefsand some of the things. But what
am I trying to say? Theblending of a kashak record work with the
mediumship work has been fascinating for spiritto be dragging me down that pathway,
but taking me down that pathway becauseit's about connecting to your soul, your
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eternal self, and being a partnerwith your internal self to have a fulfilling
life. You know, I thinkso, and I think I don't know.
For me, I feel like I'vechanged a lot since just I think
the whole spiritual awakening has done alot for me. You know, you
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look at things differently, you feeldifferently, and you live in a way
because I was also raised Catholic.Okay, so I have that. I
have that background, and it's hardto shake that, you know, the
whole Catholic guilt, I don't wantto call it Catholic guilt, but it
sticks with you, you know whatI mean? It sticks with you,
and you know I can't. Ican't just separate that from who I am.
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But I feel like since I haveawakened spiritually that idea of a of
an afterlife and that life continues togo on, well, it's become real
for me because somehow I have away to kind of either connect in some
way that I think I didn't haveit before. It was just on faith.
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Now it's on this sense of awarenessexperience. Yeah, yeah, you
know it. So yeah, youjust you just kind of know it.
And I think you realize that thereare people out there doing good work bringing
light and positivity to people, andI think that's just a beautiful thing really
and truly, you know, yeah, you need more of those. Yeah,
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we do. We do. Now, do you actually have a physical
location where you are or are youjust is everything kind of remote? You
don't have a store or something likethat. No, I don't have a
I don't have a brick and mortarplace that that happened that died along along
with a lot of other things thatfinancially, so I do remote, but
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I also a lot of my workis out of state, is people are
from far away, so so havinga zoom or remote setup or if something
or phone. Sometimes people look likein the computer, so I do a
lot of phone readings con conference callso I can record them. Yeah.
So the outreach goes sometimes India oras far as India, I should say,
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over England, and I did somework with people in Scotland and then
Deadmark, so I mean most ismost of is people from around the country.
So hey, Brandon, thanks forwatching. Now Brandon, Brandon,
Brandon. I believe this is theBrandon that I met the other night because
I was on your show. BrandonI believe is a shaman and he does
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have a show. So I'm gladyou stopped in. Brandon. Nice to
see you. Yeah, yeah,yeah, it's just nice to see people
popping in and saying hi here.Yeah. It is cool. It's great,
it is. It is cool.I think, sorry, I've got
a brain like a calendar, andI apologize. I saw him pop up
(41:30):
and now I'm gone, this iswhat it is. It is what it
is, part blonde, part gray. It's a bad combination. What were
we We were just just saying somethingthat I apologize is just completely went out
the door. As soon as Isaw that you were a brick and mortar,
and I was saying, well,I'm yeah, yeah, and so
you know I'm accessible, you know, from from any walks of this for
(41:55):
any geographic galarius. Just there's noplace to drive up in, park your
car and come in. No,but you know, I think people get
used to that with you know,after COVID, people realized that they didn't
need to. You know, Istill got a few people occasionally like to
come in and do in person.But the zoom or you know, however
you do it, zoom whatever,it's it's just it works. It works
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really well. Do you travel?I mean you and I met in Quinsy
at the Spiritualist Church. Yeah.Yeah. And the story behind that was
you having that demonstration class on platformPlatform NA with Sheila French from England.
And I had lost my mom lastyear and I was thinking to myself,
(42:37):
it was you know, how whatam I going to do on Mother's Day?
I was dreading it. I haveto tell you, I was dreading
it, and all of a sudden, I can't believe there's this class on
platform mediumship on Mother's Day. I'mgoing because I just need to be doing
something else. And so yeah,I don't know why it was on Mother's
Day. I don't care. Itwas just a great thing and it was
perfect for me. And it wasa small turnout, I think probably because
(42:58):
it was my it was Mother's Day. We had a long conversation about why
are you doing this on Mother's Day? Well, then that's when she can
come. But it was I won'tdo it again, but I'm so glad
you came. I'm so glad forme. I mean, I probably would
have liked to have come anyway,but the fact that it was Mother's Day
was like that was that was theextra piece for me because I knew that
(43:19):
I would be able to stay focused. So it was it was perfect and
glad to do. And then Imet you, which is great, and
you know, I appreciate everything wedo. We have a new connection,
you know. Yeah. No,I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled to meet
to meet you, and you wereyou actually came in and you were really
focused and you're really ready to workand you were there one hundred percent.
(43:39):
And it's like, this guy isawesome. This guy, No, I
don't know. Well, you know, the interesting thing is I've only been
to the church in Quincy twice.The Spirituals Church of Quincy, And the
first time I was there was inNovember of twenty two and I came and
it was odd. My mom hadbeen brought to the hospital. She was
coming home the next day, butshe was coming home on Monday. But
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I was there on Sunday and theyasked, you know, who do you
want healing for? And I puther name in the basket and that kind
of thing. And I went tothe service and people were so friendly.
There's another man there and I can'tthink of his name now, but he
also does spirit art and he justtook me around and was I know,
if he said his name, Iprobably know who he is. He's an
older gentleman. But oh, James, Yeah, James, that's it James.
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And he took me around. Itwas showing me different things and introducing
me to people. And then thenext day my mom died unexpectedly. I
mean, it was just that itwas like that, and so I didn't
go back there right away. Ittook me some time to kind of feel
like I'm ready, you know,I wasn't. It just wasn't. I
wasn't ready. But it had nothingto do with the church or anything.
(44:43):
It was just me and then Mother'sDay was the next time I went back,
and I was so grateful to havethat opportunity. So it was beautiful
spirit. It is spirit thing.Yeah, yeah, So we made all
those plans all those months ago withoutknowing that you needed to go, but
Spirit knew that you would need that. So that was sorry to comment,
(45:04):
Deer, sorry to comment deer yourclass, but I was really grateful that
that I had that opportunity. AndSheila was great. She was she was
great. She started out there Findleyright, yeah, no, no,
did she teach her, but shehas her own thing. She has her
own thing. She used to teachit Arthur Feelly then and then she opened
up her own thing called Erchham Starand in England and she has a very
(45:29):
good I haven't been there, butI taken online classes where her students were
there and they're very good. Yes, So so I don't know, I
keep taking you off the cash records. I feel like we're just kind of
journeying and talking along as we go. I have because I know we're running.
(45:50):
We're getting close to the end here, believe it or not. Time
just kind of flies. But Ido want to just I have to ask
you this because I saw one ofyour shows on your podcast and it was
a woman that came on and youwere talking about fairies. Oh yeah,
I can't remember her name. Yeah, is that a thing, Jennafine Hackett,
Yes, it's really a thing.I went to. I'll give you
(46:14):
my experience. She's seen them plentyof times. But I went to Lilydale
and there is a place in lilyDale where it's full of fairies. And
a friend took me there and Ican't say where it is, but we
sat there and I saw fairies,all different colors and lights. It was
the middle of the night, alldifferent different colors, lights, different color
(46:37):
sizes, and they were not apattern that you could say, oh that's
that or this is that. Theywere definitely not fireflies either, because there
were different colors and different sizes,and they had their movements were very expressive.
So yeah, now you see themwith your eyes because their physical beings
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said like you're seeing like you know, yes, yes, and they're a
little little well yeah, like thumbnail, you know, kind of really little.
That's what I only saw the lights. So I'm fascinated by it.
And I know if you go overto like I don't know if it's Ireland
or Scotland. I mean they havea really big I mean I think they
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moved a highway because there was atree there that the fairies hung out in
and they around it. They wentaround it came island of Scotland. Now
I can't remember, but I thinkthat that's it's just so they take it
serious, but but you know it'snot. You're taught growing up, well,
let's tinker bellance, She's not reallyreal. You know, that's Disney,
And you know, we're told alot of things aren't really real.
(47:45):
And so I feel that sometimes it'sgroup hypnosis because if you tell somebody enough
times and it's not really real,they'll stop noticing it. But if you
don't say that to somebody and theystart seeing what's exactly in front of them,
they're not socialized in that way.They just oh that, see you
(48:05):
know what's that? Mama? Yeah, looking at But well, don't you
think it's like that with our kidstoo, Like like some kids, I
my son has his own this psychicstyle. He's only ten, so you
know, we're not like too deep, but he's definitely got his psychic stuff
going on. I can tell.I can tell the way he hears things
and talks to people, you know, and you're not. But I think
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either, well, that's the differenceis I'm not. I'm acknowledging it.
Like he'll hear them calling his nameand and you know, Nicholas, Nicholas,
you know, and was like that, I hear them, I could
feel them touching my leg. Andhe doesn't do it because he knows that
I do that. He was doingthis. He's been doing this forever,
you know what I mean, he'sjust been able to. Yeah, but
(48:52):
I think that he uh, youknow, I if he if I were
the type of person that was like, oh, come on, that's nothing.
I think they shut that stuff downjust like you said, you know,
I think people would be more open. And I think that that is,
you know, as we awaken,as I said, because do you
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feel like people are on this awakeningtoo? Oh yeah, I really really
hope so. Anyway, but Ido see more and more people waking up,
and I see more children thinking differentkinds. Well, children have always
thought independently until they're socialized. Butthere are a lot of gifted kids and
they're not shutting down, you know, puberty shuts us down, no doubt
about it. But they're not shutting. Some of them just aren't there.
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They're still in that space and it'swonderful to see. But they don't get
a lot of support for what theysay well, And I think that's the
difference. And it's finny because Ichat with a woman on her show the
other night and she is the mediuI mean, she she has two children
who are also very, very gifted, and she said, you'll watch it
happen like they were strong and thenthey went through puberty and it kind of
(49:57):
it's almost like it goes away andthen it comes back, you know,
when they come back around. SoI'm fully expecting that to happen. You
know. Good. Yeah, So, Nancy, we have a few minutes
left. Obviously we have your websiteright at the bottom of the page here.
Yeah, what else would you lovepeople to know? I mean,
do you have places you're going tobe events or things where people want to
(50:17):
I absolutely do. I have thisFebruary coming up, a mediumship and art
development class. It's on my website, so starting February third. I'm really
excited about it. People are It'sa different way of teaching mediumship and so
I'm combining the artwork. But youdon't have to be an amazing artist.
We're just using the pencil of thedrawing on the paper to as another psychic
(50:42):
gift, so you can get informationfrom your drawing. And people have been
enjoying the class. I've been comingback teaching at lily Dale again for the
fifth year in a row. It'llbe there June twenty second, twenty third,
teaching Mediumship art again. So that'skind of a theme. And then
how you go there? Anybody goto Lilydale and take a class. Yes,
anybody, anybody never been. Ikeep saying I need to got to
(51:05):
have enough mighty get through the gatethere. You no no yet, anyone
can go and it's a really funplace to be. Lots of history there,
lots of energy there. And thenin April I start my next to
Kashak Journey Intensive. It's a sixmonth intensive and it's you can use it
as soon as you start learning it. People use it to heal their lives
(51:30):
or develop or take their lives tothe next level. But also people come
in who are professionals and they'll takethe class and they'll add it to their
tool bag. And you don't haveto be a medium to take the class.
I asked you this, but justso people know, you do not
have to be a medium. Soyou know, Christina is a Is anyone
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abscessed the Kashak records, Yes,you just have to learn how to do
that because everyone, yes, andthat's a whole class and why but yes,
anyone can can take it. Peoplehave taken it and said, you
know, this isn't a beginner classbecause I do take us all into the
deep pool pretty quick. But Isee people doing the work and they're doing
(52:15):
quite well with it, so Ilove it. I love it. So
I just want to say before weclose out the show. Next week,
we are not here live. Myson has a band concert and I have
to be there. I cannot behere while he's up on stage playing his
drums, so we are going tobe there, but we did record the
(52:36):
show. Laura Hellickson, who stoppedin and said hello, is our guest
next week. Laura is. Sheis quite quite an individual and she is
very I think intuitive to a certaindegree. But she makes these devices that
are they're crystal pods and they pickup on magnetic waves and you know,
(53:00):
you can tell when there's spirit around. Looks so like a rampod, but
it's done with crystals and everything,and they're absolutely beautiful, and she makes
the designer for different people and shedoes so she's gonna be on the show
next week. We had such afun chat and so she is on next
week with that is a recorded show, and the following week, Christina and
I are traveling to San Antonio foran event, so we'll be down there,
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so that will also be a recordedshow, and we're doing that on
Monday, so we'll have that nextweek. But I just want to say
thank you to you, Nancy.It's been an absolute pleasure having you,
and of course this fifty four minutesalways sort of flies by, and I
am going to be reaching out toyou because I'm very interested in the class,
and I hope other people will lookyou up, find her podcast,
like her Facebook page, everything,And we appreciate you every week. So
(53:45):
have a good week, everybody,enjoy and we'll see you next time.
Thank you so much. You've beenlistening to the Paranormal Project radio show with
Scott Allen and Christina Bowen. Besure to subscribe so you don't miss the
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