October 8, 2024 • 40 mins
What is up partee people welcome back! This week Christine & Kona are bringing you all the recaps from the MVP Open. The hosts discuss funny and unfortunate stories from the weekend, give insight to their opinions on the 8 hole fan section, and read lots of wisdom from Raven Klein. It's a great episode, come partee with us!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
What is that party? People? Welcome back to the podcast.
My name is Christine Jennings.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm ConA Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
And this week we are going over the second DGPT
playoff event, MVP Open and OTB question Mark. I don't
know how to read Times, Times Times OTV. It's like
they're like partners sponsor.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, things are going well, but it's getting cold. And
I think I've mentioned I like fall, but I like
the look of fall. I don't like the I don't
like any tea chili, you know what I mean. And
I mean layers are cool and all, but like Marty
Missing shorts follows my absolute favorite, I Know your Pumpkins
(00:55):
is so fall.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I am. I like pumpkin spice for like the first
month that comes out, and then I immediately transition into peppermintmocha.
It's like almost winter at that point. Girl, it's basically Christmas.
It's basically Christmas. It's October first, which honestly, the weather
(01:22):
is teasing us this year because it was like really
cold and fall like I think early September, and then
Ohio was like skirt nevermind, we're going to be ninety
degrees again. So yeah, but it's starting to it's starting
to get cool again, which I'm excited about. I like
sweater sweater weather. I think most of the clothes I
(01:44):
own our sweaters. Really Yeah. I'm also like an ath
leisure person, Like unless I have business like real estate
business that I have to like look good for, I
live in ath leisure, so you know, little leggings.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
To be cozy.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. I described to yeah, yeah, where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm currently in Pennsylvania. We are on our way to
rock Hill, but we have an off week this week,
and I don't know, it was like fourteen hours to
get there. So we're like, let's break it up. Colton
needs to do some adult things this week and sit
down on a computer and get those finished. Okay, So
(02:33):
this week he's doing that. He was going to go
play in New Hampshire because he has this new collection
of things that he wants to play a tournament every
single seat, and so he wanted to play in New
Hampshire and I'm like, you need, you need to sit
down and be an adult. So he's being an adult okay. Yeah,
So we're doing that for two days and then we'll
go to rock Hi'll be there on Saturday to practice
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for the Throw Pink Women's Disc Golf Championships and USCGC.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Fun. I love that property and I'll get to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Winthrop's my favorite, and you're gonna be there, why.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You know, as long as I can make it to
US DOGC. I'm gonna fly in the Friday of US
DIGC because I'm working Tour Championships. But we told our
ops guys, hopefully we can finish set up on Saturday
so that we can all have a day off on
Sunday and go like watch US DOGC or like go
hang around. So if that happens, I should be able
to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Found on wiki. I know, Wiki, isn't that like the
greatest place to look for things? But don't give me
such a hard time, people, But it mentioned that for
six years this event formerly known as the vibr I'm
Open it was actually that's what it was called when
I first played it, I believe in like twenty seventeen.
It was like one of my first big pro events.
I remember being so nervous to part with Katrina Allen
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for the first time in my life. I was like
five feet away, like air balling it was just like,
oh my gosh. And it was like the first event
that page Pier saw me throw. And I remember throwing
on Hole one, which if you know the famous Hole one,
it's over this lake, it's beautiful, but I remember throwing
over and it was the first time I had really
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come on the scene and page Pier saw me throw
and she's like, wow, that was that was far and
I was like, oh my god. Page Pierce just like
called out my shot. So Maple Hill has a special
place in my heart because it was my first time
ever meeting a lot of these really big name pros. Yeah,
but it back then it had the largest MPO and
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FPO payout of any stop on the PDGA National Tour, which,
for those of you who don't go back in the day,
there was National Tour. There wasn nty events in majors.
That was it. There was no DGPT, so kind of weird,
just like kind of going back in time. Christen has
taken three second place finishes at Maple Hill prior to
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this year, so we were all kind of sitting back
wondering if she was going to break that curse. Page Pierce,
on the other hand, has won at Maplehill five separate years,
and her game has been slowly progressing since her ankle surgery.
So I was also wondering, is maple is MVP like
where she takes down like her second big DGPT event
of the season. And then I was super curious there
(05:23):
was a doubles event that was happening in between the
FPO and MPO rounds, and I was curious, Christine, how
would you feel? This is a DGPT playoff event? So
this is an event that our players had to qualify for.
We had to kick butt this season to even sneak
into this event, and all of a sudden, they're kind
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of throwing in this random doubles event with some of
the locals. There's only four teams to play Thursday to
play Friday. Winners on Thursday, Friday Sunday losers play Saturday. Anyways,
how do you feel about this random event double being
in between the rounds of the MPO and FPO. I
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don't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I feel like, no matter how you look at it,
I don't like it. Maybe you could, maybe someone could
convince me, but currently I don't have anything that I
can be convinced with. And you even mentioned there's only
four teams, and this is nothing against those teams, right, Like,
it's not against the people that are playing, it's the
people who organized it and allowed it to happen. Really,
(06:31):
I don't think that anything should be happening during tournament play,
Like we're pretty strict. The protoor is pretty strict with
like making sure that people are not practicing the course
while play is going on. And even if you're a player,
if you're a player, your spectator, Like people want to
play the course, we get that, but until the last
putt drops on eighteen, we don't allow anybody to go
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on the course. So it's just interesting that we have
allowed that, and then it's only for four teams. It's
not like it's this big thing. It's just for a
small group of people.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So just like how did they get chosen? You know,
like how did they get picked out of the lottery
of millions of people who live near Maple Hill and
would love the opportunity to play it in this layout?
You know, how did they get picked?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So yeah, very interesting, Yeah, weird situation.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
But anyways, that happened, and congrats, I guess so the
winners whoever won that an outside factor that made this
event really stressful to the players was that there was shuttles,
so similar to smugs. We had to shuttle from a
middle school that was ten minutes down the road, and
it was very stressful. Some people have shuttle anxiety, so
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they actually have their caddies drop them off at the
course and then their caddy will go to the middle
school drop off their car and then drive separately because
they're so scared to miss their tea time. And this
is unfortunate too because at Maple Hill they don't have
like warm up us. There's one basket like often the
pine trees, there's not really a lot of area to
putt and then there's like one tiny net there, so
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it's like for people who wanted to go there and
get dropped off, there wasn't much to warm up with,
and all the discolf strong stuff was at the middle school.
So that was just like another factor that like really
weirded some people out. And people like Rebecca Cox, like
she struggled with carsickness, so she'd get to the course
and be like all wheezy, So that kind of brought
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it like an extra stressor to the course, and that
or getting to the course, and then this event had
the famous whole. They call them eight holes. They are
spectators who hang out on Whole eight and just cheer
their butts off all day long. They get there at
it feels like seven am before the first sea time
even goes. I will say some of the Europeans have
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a really hard time with this because it's so loud.
I talked to Haiti Lney and she was like, if
this was at every event, it would be really stressful.
She's like, thankfully it's just this one. Yeah, but I
don't know, like, how would you feel like coming from
Europe where everything's like super quiet, and then all of
a sudden, you like, you show up to this event
and it's like, you know, America baby like loud and proudly.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
See like the shock factor to that. Yeah, I think
I agree with her. If it was like something, if
there was something like that at every event, it would
definitely be a lot. But I think that's just kind
of like the Maple Hill tradition, so we allow it.
They are so loud you can hear them. I feel
like at least in half of the course, oh like
(09:34):
during the whole shops, during your put the whole course great.
Oh yes, it's like hearing this cheering on top of
the big crowd that's always that hole one and eighteen,
so it's like there's just like a bunching on. Yeah,
it's a lot, but the eight holers are definitely like
some of the loudest, like they definitely pride themselves on that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So yeah, yeah, across the tour, for sure, I could
see it being a lot. Yeah, But getting into the
actual tournament play round one, they had the pin position
for a whole one and short position, which we haven't
(10:18):
really played in DGPT events. I know, I think you
would have loved it back in the day. I think
you would have really liked that position. But it was
just past the lake and then the pin position for
whole nine was long, and I was curious, Christine, do
you like the idea of having different pin positions for
different rounds instead of like maybe playing two different courses
(10:38):
they have maybe they just switch these pin positions so
it's almost like changing the course. Well, it is changing
the course.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think this would be like a perfect example of
a course that should do that, because like you were
at GMC last week and we had a playoff event,
but there were two courses, so you alternated the courses.
Here there's four rounds, but you're playing the same course
four rounds, So then that could get like really really redundant.
So then in that case, maybe do the same thing,
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like alternate them back and forth. I think they might
do that at USCGC. I think you're right, there's like
a couple pins that move. I don't know if it
does for FPO, but specifically for MPO I know, so yeah,
I think it's a good way to change some things up.
It doesn't have to be a lot. Even if you
just changed like two or three holes up a little bit,
that's enough to make a difference, I think well.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And I also think it makes the players pay more
attention to like their practice rounds and their placements. And
it's not just like oh, I play the same exact
placement every single round, it's just the shot. It's like,
oh dang, like there's a longer position, like it's a
different kind of shot shape. And then also like knowing
what round you're playing into which position. I think it's
also yes, yeh Hailey King actually took down this event
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last year in a playoff against Chris and Tatar and
I was surprised to see that she was not on
the feature card for round one, And uh, what do
you think about that? Do you think, well, hold on,
do you think it should be if someone wins the
event prior to the present year, do you think they
should automatically just get on feature card or is that
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just like, you know, whatever they won last year?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Did you say the new year? Did you say the
previous winner to be on feature card? Yes, yes, the
previous winner I believe should be on future card because
they are technically the defending champion. Okay, but runner up questionable?
You could you could convince me, yeah, I think so.
The way DGN does it right now is basically just
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like who who's playing hot or who has some things
going on that we can like make a storyline around.
But I like the runner up thing too. That's a
good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, and for everyone listening, I would love I would
love if we made another post about if we should
bring back fan votes. I think that was such a
fun thing back in the day when I first got
on the road for DGPT was being voted onto a
feature card was like super exciting, Like when I was
new to the road. I was like, oh my gosh,
I got voted on. So I think that would be
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a fun thing to bring back. And I'm curious if
others would think the same too, because I think we
see a lot of the same faces. But it was
really surprising not to see Haley King on that lead card.
But I will say round one the weather was ugly
and wet, which at Maple Hill does not make for
a fun day. The players were talking about how the
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pavers that they use for the teapads just don't make
for really good footing in rainy conditions. So Christine, what
shoes do you like rocking in rainy conditions? I really
love my Adida's tear X, and I think that's one
that the disc golfers in like the disc golf community
has like really fallen in love with over the years.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I used to wear the tar Rex and then I
found Nike Gortex, like the Nike trail Runners, I think
they are those weren't bad. I think the when in
what conditions the Tereks and the gor Tex were equally
slick like. They weren't horrible, but they weren't perfect. I
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have since moved to Vivo barefoots and those are great
in all conditions, in all conditions.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, so I like I have not played those in
all conditions. Anyways, our leaders had no trouble shooting four down.
We had three ladies tied for first place. Missy Kannon
shot an incredible, incredibly clean round with four birdies, where
players like Raven Klein who snatched up eight birdies on
the round, but she had a few bogies and a
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double to bring her back. I know she was eight
down through those conditions. Was really crazy. But I had
a super weird incident that I would love to share,
and I'm curious if you've ever heard of. So I
was playing whole fifteen and my shot went kick left,
my whole entire card and all of our spectators were
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off on the left side of the fairway looking for
my disk, and we started the three minute timer. Card
behind us had no idea we were still on the
hole and threw. There was not a spotterer on this
hole yet, so they threw. I guess there was a
few of them that threw before realizing we were on
the hole, so all of a sudden they stopped. I
(15:26):
have a lost disk. I have to go back throw Anyways,
we get to the green and see this random disc.
Nobody's been to the green yet, and we see this
random disc no name on it, and we're like, oh,
maybe the card in front of us forgot to pick
up their disc. Mind you, I did not know anyone
had thrown in on me. I was over in the bushes.
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No clue, no idea, no clue. We picked up this
disc and we're like, oh, I guess we'll leave it
on the next hole. So the card behind us doesn't
think it's ours. I find out at that and in
my round the card behind me had Cadence Berg throw
in on us. We pick up her disc because it
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was not marked, take it to the next hole. The
cruel is called eight zero five point zero three. It's
a lost disc, so whatever. They probably looked for her
disk for three minutes. And then in section E, if
it is discovered prior to the completion of the tournament
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that a player's disc that had been declared the loss
had been removed or taken prior to it being declared lost,
then two throws are subtracted from the player's score for
that hole. Who so Cadence Cadence went back. I'm assuming
I'm assuming she went back, played lost disc, walked to
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the next hole, saw her disc on the table, and
got two strokes back. It was the craziest thing in
the way.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Do you happen to know what her score was that
she took?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It was a five? She took a three?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Whoa, But when you pick the disc up, was it
like parked or was it like, uh it was?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It was circle two? Okay, circle two, And that's that's
why we like band.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Up her taking a three anyways, Sure, yes, okay. I
was just like trying to think, like, did you get
benefited in this way? Or that's crazy? You get two
strokes back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You get two strokes back if someone picks up your
disc and you find out they they took it, like
you couldn't find it. It's not like you could replace
it because usually like if I pick up someone's disc
and we realized I picked it up, we can put
it back, you know, if I don't play out the hole.
But we we just took her disk. It was unmarked.
So technically when I found this out, I'm like, well,
technically she should get a stroke back because she didn't
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mark it. Yes, you know, so crazy situation only and Honestly,
this is the first story I will be sharing with
you that was very interesting from this weekend. Anywhow that
was round one, round two. The past few events, Holland
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Hanley has been struggling round one. I don't know what
her deal is. She's just like not like getting off
on a good start. But man, her round twos are
like boom, kicking it into second gear because she jumped
twelve spots to get into the top five for round three,
and she's been she's been doing that the last like
three events, and she said it too, She's like, I
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just keep Yeah, she gets started round I know. So
maybe maybe at Throw Pink we see her get started
a little bit more early. Because she is our defending
champion from last year. It was really exciting to see
page Piers playing well. She actually scored an ace on
whole fifteen, a three hundred and twenty two tunnel shot
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with a valley halfway through the fairways, so it was
crazy and she was like running to go get the ace,
which like I was a little nervous about because like
her ankle, But I just think that goes to show
she's feeling like super confident in her ankle. To like
be able to throw these shots like on the pavers
in the weather, run through all these like roots and stuff.
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And she's also wearing her brand new signature shoe with
Idio Sports, which it's a mid, so I think like
maybe that's giving some extra some extra trust to the ankle. Okay,
but by the end of the round. By end of
round two, Kristen was leading the vision by three strokes
over Missy Kiannon and Ownssgoggins owned Sloggins. I feel like
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has just been always like in the mix, but it's
like whether it's her day or not, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Round three, Elahansa k Ala Hansen came into the clubhouse
with a hot six down and eighty seven percent C
one x putting percentage's sneaking to the top four and
personally like, do you see this as being a course
for Ella? Like I personally don't. I see like an
Ivy hill being an ELLA course, but I don't see
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a maple hill being an ELLA course other than maybe
she can reach some of those birdie holes that maybe
the women can't reach, like they're super uphill and she
can get that extra power. But I don't usually see
this as her kind of track.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You know what I think is interesting with Ella. She
has like those sneaky mid range lines. She's like real
good at throwing those mid ranges. On Heiser flips on.
Ann Heiser's like, she's so good at throwing mids. So
I feel like in this type of course, she just
had a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I agree. I agree. Uh, you have a huge advantage
on the division if you can throw a mid range
instead of a driver, especially like when kicks happen. Yeah,
I totally agree. We did see Natalie Ryan struggle to
say clean once we hit the wooded holes during round three, three,
four or five. She took bogeys and just fell off
the leaderboard on during that. And then Parr is great
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at Mimple Hill, and Christen was playing consistently, even taking
a turkey on me back nine, while Missy finished the
round three back of Christen going into championship Sunday, Okay,
so only three back from Kristen, and I was like,
really like cheering for my girl Kristen to take like
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her first win at Maple Hill. Yeah yeah, okay, wait,
I have two more stories before we get into final round.
Your girl played a whole wrong you did I played
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whole one. I played whole one wrong. So hole one
is now a triple mando in the long position, and
so on my second shot, I missed the triple mando
and the spotter marked my shot, and so my brain
was like, oh, I play from over there because he
marked it. So I laid up to the mouth of
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the mando and then I jump putt missed the jump putt.
Holly comes over to me at this point she says, hey, Kona, you,
I think you've played the whole wrong. You miss the mando.
So there's actually a drop zone you should have proceeded to.
And I sit there and I'm like, crap. So I
go to the drops, go to the drop zone, bang
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the drop zone, putt okay, oh god, and go to
the next hole. And we're like, all right, we will
figure that out at the end of the round because
that was a lot. Come to find out. I end
up breaking another rule on whole seven. I'm going for
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a jump putt, and there's this rule in the DGPT
rules that you can move spectator ropes only if they
are inside you're lying. Well, I moved a spectator rope
like five ft in front of me brain not working,
I'm a I'm like nowhere to be found. At this point,
whole one just completely derailed.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You knock and I'm not there. I'm just my brain's
just like trying to figure it out. I tried. I
got some birds like birdies though, like hold two, I
parked like I was getting some birdies. And then I
do that and Holly's like, hey, yeah, you broke another rule. Sorry,
and I'm like, man, what is going.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Honestly, I love that it was Holly that was giving
you this news though, because I feel like she's one
of the best people to break news like that. Dude.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So, ConA Montgomery was not feeling herself. I was going
through some lady issues and man, I just like my
brain was not there. I couldn't control my emotions. I
was so upset. But yeah, ConA, ConA broke two rules.
So that's one. That's one story I have. So now,
going in to the final round, I'm supposed to play
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with I'm not gonna name a name, but I'm supposed
to play with this player. And I show up to
my tea time twenty minutes before my tea time and
I see someone else and I'm like, hey, like, you're
supposed to tee off like after me, and she's like, hey,
your player on your card called this morning and d nft.
I got a call from Brian Cole at seven am.
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Mind you I t off at eight twenty. I got
a call from Brian Cole at seven am telling me
I needed to be here twenty minutes before I was
supposed to, not me, but this player, and so this
players like, I haven't even eaten breakfast, I haven't gotten ready.
So she jams to the course. She gets there, she
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like warms up as best as she could. But it's like, man,
I can't imagine someone calling me in the morning and
being like, hey, you need to be here in the
next hour because someone's full, because someone dnfed, they didn't
want to show up this morning, So you got to
do it now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You were originally a fouresome, right, No, oh, you were
a threesome. That's why, because I'm like, if you're a
force on, what's the deal, Like, you'll just play a
little bit quicker.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So that was also crazy to start my round. So yeah,
that was my final round. Yeah, anyways, for our lead
card final round, we had Missy Gannon, Chris and guitar
and Ownschoggin's and Ella Hanson on our card for the
final day, and man, it was a battle out there.
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I just feel like it was back and forth and
like our ladies were just getting birdies, but bogies. But man,
it all came down to the finish because Chris and
Tutar took a bogie on seventeen and a double on eighteen,
which she really struggled with. And yeah, Christine, I want
to hear what you have to say about the finish.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So on whole seventeen, Kristin Tatar is probably like, I
don't know, twelve to fifteen feet from the basket, makes
a putt looks to be dead center, maybe a little
low right, and it goes through the chains and spits out,
slops back on the other side. And at this point
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I think if she would have made that put she
would have been leading by one stroke going into Holy
eighteen because that missed putt now caused them to tie
going into eighteen, so that could have like frazzled some nerves.
She's also at this point for this final round, she
had a lot of like early releases with her harp
up shot, Like we know that that harp Upshot is
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like her bread and butter, and she just like had
slight like up you know, early releasas most of the
time she recovered those early releases by making the putts
on the green. But just to you know, put that
into context for her approach on Holy eighteen, where she
saw it off little bit, She's needed a little bit
more power to get it up into the green. So
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my thing is like, there's always the one thing that
you can blame it on, right, there could have been
something on hole too where you're like, oh, well, Kristin
missed that approach and like caused herself a stroke, and
so you know that could have made a difference. Like
there's always that one thing that could make a difference.
But I was just like I feel like in those
intense moments, it always sticks in my brain and it's
like what is the player thinking or like how are
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they trying to like overcome that like that spit out.
I don't think it was a bad put. It just
went through the basket and that sucks, And so like
is that something that where if she made that put
would she have had a more confident Upshot who knows,
but it's funny.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think it always goes back to the disc never
lies is like my favorite saying.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah. But then so Kristin fluffed her upshot and ended
up obi Missy. On the other hand, I was impressed
by the foehands she was throwing. Okay, I know, like
throughout the season, I feel like we've seen her like
progress the forehand. We've seen originally shorter approaches, shorter upshots,
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and then now like there was a couple times where
she was like smashing two fifty to three hundred foot
forehand just like confident, like oh no big deal, and
I'm like what, and so then a whole pressure situation. Yeah.
So then on eighteen pressure situation like small green, hard,
hard hole, she just put chips up beforehand, gets onto
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the green, takes the prettiest but she did it works right, Yes, yes,
So that was super fun to watch. It was very
exciting finish. Unfortunately, Kristen wasn't able to take down the wind.
Just adding on to that second place finish.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Her fourth second place finish at Maple Hill, Yeah, poor thing.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's crazy. But as always, I want to wrap up
with some stats because your girl loves some stats. So
these stats are from the entire round or the entire event,
not specific to rounds, and I thought that these were
kind of fun, so I want to go over them.
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Missy Gannon. Our winner was seventy five percent Circle two
in regulation For those that don't know what circle two
and regulation is, the player is able to get the
disc from the tpad in circle two for birdy opportunity
period right period, thinking in my head like is there more?
(29:42):
But no, that's it, Harry. So she was able to
get herself into circle two for birdy opportunity fifty four
out of seventy two times. That's pretty good. I mean,
if it circle one that would be even hotter. But
like the fact that you're getting that many shots into
circle two just means that you're having easier opportunities to
at least par Like, if you're not getting yourself birdies
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from circle two, that's fine easy par Own had the
longest average putt at sixteen point five feet, which is
always interesting. I don't I'm assuming these count the circle
one x tappens, but her total putt was one thousand,
one hundred and eighty eight feet. I feel like we
always talk about like, oh, you know, Ohn make so
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many long putts, like I wonder what her total is. Well,
you can look on PDGA and they're there.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I did want to say when it comes to Own's putting, yes,
we always give her like high praise, but I would
love to give a huge shout out to Own specifically
for the MVP Open and these putting stats, because I
would say MVP has some of the scariest screens when
it comes to putting, whether it's death puts or they're
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downhill uphill roots. I feel like MVP's Maple Hills Greens
has some of the scariest. So I would say that
her putting percentage and her total put in feet is
even more impressive here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I agree. So yeah, that's a lot of footage.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Page Piers had the longest throw in at three hundred
and twenty two feet, which is funny because I didn't
even know that you were going to talk about an
ace and I didn't realize it was an ace.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I was like, throw in, that was a straight
up ace. Girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I was just looking at the stats and it said
throw and I'm like, dang, that's a big throw in.
I'm gonna talk about that straight up ace. It was
an ace that's so funny. And then Hannah blom roosse
led the field and parked percentage at fourteen percent. She
was able to park ten out of seventy two t shots.
(31:50):
She does that pretty good. Yeah, fourteen percent, it doesn't
seem like a lot, but if you look at the
stats at the rest of the field, it was significantly
more than the rest. And then final Holly Finley had
a ninety two percent C one x put percentage, making
fifty seven out of sixty two putts. Imagine like you're
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in your yard practicing sixty two putts and like, sure
you could probably make fifty seven out of sixty two
of those, but like in a pressure situation and a
tournament to make fifty seven out of sixty two in
like weird conditions, like you said, roots and elevation, that's good.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, And something I would like to say about Holly
Finley is she's one player that I've noticed in the
FPO field that really understands the wrist and like I
feel like it's like in the past it's maybe got
her into trouble with how like understanding the risks so much,
but she's someone in the division that I feel like
truly understands. Like the Rist flick.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I agree well. ConA was able to reach out to
Raven Klein via messages. It's not a void recording, however,
ConA had a small little interview with her. The first
question that we asked Raven Klein is is there anything
specific that you've been focusing on in your game that
has led to your recent success.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She mentions, in the last couple of weeks, I've actually
been thinking less about the game itself and practicing trusting
in the abilities I know I have and that I've
built over the last few seasons. I've been putting more
focus in off the course and on myself, finding my
consistency again in the gym, making sure I'm getting all
my vitamins and minerals, in taking time for myself, and
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paying more attention to all aspects of my health physically
and mentally.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We love a mental health and wellness queen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Very mindful, very demure. God, I hate myself.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Because I just cringe.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I did so hard.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's amazing. I love that. The nice question.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean, I think a lot of have like issues
kind of sitting down with themselves and dealing with some
of this stuff, especially at the end of the season.
I think our pros struggle really hard mentally, so it's
really good that she's doing that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, for sure. We also asked how has your mental
game developed since joining the tour and what keeps you
focused during the tough rounds and vice versa. How do
you settle the nerves on the rounds you're performing.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, this one's a little bit long, but I think
this is a good nugget. My mental game is one
of the things I'm most proud of because since I
can remember, I've been incredibly hard on myself. I've always
expected so much, and when I think I should be
good at something and I don't perform to the high
standard I set for myself, I can get mean to me.
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It's something I've been working on for years. However, with
disc golf, especially in my first year on the road,
I practice giving myself grace. In twenty twenty two, my
first year touring, I'd only been playing for a little
over a year, and each week I would be playing
against someone younger than me who'd been playing for over
ten years or more, and I'd have to remind myself
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that this game requires time and dedication and sacrifices. You
have to make mistakes to learn from them. So I
would just look for something positive or new that I
did every weekend, and I would hold on to those
positives to move me forward. For example, got a second
to last place in Utah in twenty twenty one. I
was so ecstatic because I threw my first ever fourhand
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approach in a tournament.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Wasn't last and I played above my rating. So I
think that's also just a pro tip to just stay positive.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Now I have improved and have started to make better
decisions on the course, and I'm playing better. I've been
in higher pressure situations at a camera's on me, or
am I myself that I have to put in time
that I deserve it as much as anyone else. Disc
Golf has made up a small moments of my life.
There are a lot of uncontrollables, so when mistakes happen,
I let them exist in a bubble as best as
I can. I believe the course has an infinite amount
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of luck, so if unlucky things happen to me, someone
must be getting lucky, and eventually tides will turn. I
love that.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That whole answer made me so happy. I know, I
recently made a I found a post on Instagram, so
I shared it on my story and it basically said,
everyone like has all these negative things that happen and
they want to like focus on all you know today,
I don't know it rained on me or whatever there is,
like you always want to find the glimmers. The post
(36:32):
called it a glimmer, So try to find a glimmer
in your day and focus on that glimmer, or try
to find more of those glimmers rather than focusing on
those negatives. And that, like what raven answer just made
me think of that immediately, Like she always just finds
like the smallest positive things and just like rolls with
it and takes it. And I love that. And she
has grown a lot since she got on tour, Like
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we've seen her on coverage a few times this year,
and like she said, she said it very well, like
she just uses that to you know, as experience, and
you know, of course she wants to do well, but
if anything, she just takes it as a little glimmer.
We had a couple more questions for her. The next
one was what was your proudest moment on the course
this past weekend. At MVP last.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Seagon, last season, I was notorious for having a bowed
round one and digging myself out of a hole for
the rest of the event. This year, I've had a
couple good first rounds and then I fall off pace.
My proudest moment of this weekend was even though round
one was in fact my best of the event and
the year, I never fell past the chase card. I
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held my own with the top ladies of the support
and showed people what I am capable of. Oh and
I had a freaking blast the whole time. I made mistakes,
I corrected mistakes, I got difficult berdies, I made big puts,
I missed some donkers, and I laughed and I smiled
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We need more, We need some more Raven in our lives.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, I think we're gonna have to have Raven Klein
on the on the podcast, have.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Some conversations with her.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The final question we had was if you could give
one piece of advice to yourself when you first started touring,
what would it be.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
She says, it's okay to ask for help and accept
help that is offered. When you're on the road, the
weeks can get long and be difficult. You don't have
to do it all by yourself, which also ties into
having a great support system. Make friends, but don't force friends.
Not everyone is supposed to fit into your life or
your energy. Have a good support system, and look for
people that enrich your life, not people who suck the
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life out of you and exhaust you. On my whiteboard
in my VN, I have quotes when I consistently remind
myself of good decisions come from experience. Experiences come from
making bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What And I don't know what the word is, like aware,
she's so aware. There's like she's very wise people. Yeah,
whyse is a good word. Yeah, she's like.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Very And I think, but I think the road does
that to you, Like I think I think we experience
a lot out here, and you, like, especially those who
like have to tour by themselves. Like maybe your car
breaks down on the way somewhere and you have to
figure it out by yourself, or you need to find
somewhere to stay and there's no walmarts, you have to
(39:12):
find a host, you have to go out of your
comfort zone. So I think the road makes you grow
up really fast and makes you adaptable very quick.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah for sure. Well, those answers to the questions that
you asked her made me very happy, and so I
want to end on that happy note. But everyone else
feels the same way. So that was the recap on MVP.
We do have an off week before we get into
USGC slash Throw Pink Women's SCOFF Championship next weekend, and
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then that rolls us into Tour Championships, which is then
the end of the year for the Golf Pro Tour.
So yeah, we will cut you guys next week. We'll
find some things to talk about, and then we'll see
you later.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
By IY
What is that party? People? Welcome back to the podcast.
My name is Christine Jennings.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm ConA Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
And this week we are going over the second DGPT
playoff event, MVP Open and OTB question Mark. I don't
know how to read Times, Times Times OTV. It's like
they're like partners sponsor.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, things are going well, but it's getting cold. And
I think I've mentioned I like fall, but I like
the look of fall. I don't like the I don't
like any tea chili, you know what I mean. And
I mean layers are cool and all, but like Marty
Missing shorts follows my absolute favorite, I Know your Pumpkins
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is so fall.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I am. I like pumpkin spice for like the first
month that comes out, and then I immediately transition into peppermintmocha.
It's like almost winter at that point. Girl, it's basically Christmas.
It's basically Christmas. It's October first, which honestly, the weather
(01:22):
is teasing us this year because it was like really
cold and fall like I think early September, and then
Ohio was like skirt nevermind, we're going to be ninety
degrees again. So yeah, but it's starting to it's starting
to get cool again, which I'm excited about. I like
sweater sweater weather. I think most of the clothes I
(01:44):
own our sweaters. Really Yeah. I'm also like an ath
leisure person, Like unless I have business like real estate
business that I have to like look good for, I
live in ath leisure, so you know, little leggings.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
To be cozy.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. I described to yeah, yeah, where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm currently in Pennsylvania. We are on our way to
rock Hill, but we have an off week this week,
and I don't know, it was like fourteen hours to
get there. So we're like, let's break it up. Colton
needs to do some adult things this week and sit
down on a computer and get those finished. Okay, So
(02:33):
this week he's doing that. He was going to go
play in New Hampshire because he has this new collection
of things that he wants to play a tournament every
single seat, and so he wanted to play in New
Hampshire and I'm like, you need, you need to sit
down and be an adult. So he's being an adult okay. Yeah,
So we're doing that for two days and then we'll
go to rock Hi'll be there on Saturday to practice
(02:55):
for the Throw Pink Women's Disc Golf Championships and USCGC.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Fun. I love that property and I'll get to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Winthrop's my favorite, and you're gonna be there, why.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You know, as long as I can make it to
US DOGC. I'm gonna fly in the Friday of US
DIGC because I'm working Tour Championships. But we told our
ops guys, hopefully we can finish set up on Saturday
so that we can all have a day off on
Sunday and go like watch US DOGC or like go
hang around. So if that happens, I should be able
to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Found on wiki. I know, Wiki, isn't that like the
greatest place to look for things? But don't give me
such a hard time, people, But it mentioned that for
six years this event formerly known as the vibr I'm
Open it was actually that's what it was called when
I first played it, I believe in like twenty seventeen.
It was like one of my first big pro events.
I remember being so nervous to part with Katrina Allen
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for the first time in my life. I was like
five feet away, like air balling it was just like,
oh my gosh. And it was like the first event
that page Pier saw me throw. And I remember throwing
on Hole one, which if you know the famous Hole one,
it's over this lake, it's beautiful, but I remember throwing
over and it was the first time I had really
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come on the scene and page Pier saw me throw
and she's like, wow, that was that was far and
I was like, oh my god. Page Pierce just like
called out my shot. So Maple Hill has a special
place in my heart because it was my first time
ever meeting a lot of these really big name pros. Yeah,
but it back then it had the largest MPO and
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FPO payout of any stop on the PDGA National Tour, which,
for those of you who don't go back in the day,
there was National Tour. There wasn nty events in majors.
That was it. There was no DGPT, so kind of weird,
just like kind of going back in time. Christen has
taken three second place finishes at Maple Hill prior to
(04:59):
this year, so we were all kind of sitting back
wondering if she was going to break that curse. Page Pierce,
on the other hand, has won at Maplehill five separate years,
and her game has been slowly progressing since her ankle surgery.
So I was also wondering, is maple is MVP like
where she takes down like her second big DGPT event
of the season. And then I was super curious there
(05:23):
was a doubles event that was happening in between the
FPO and MPO rounds, and I was curious, Christine, how
would you feel? This is a DGPT playoff event? So
this is an event that our players had to qualify for.
We had to kick butt this season to even sneak
into this event, and all of a sudden, they're kind
(05:44):
of throwing in this random doubles event with some of
the locals. There's only four teams to play Thursday to
play Friday. Winners on Thursday, Friday Sunday losers play Saturday. Anyways,
how do you feel about this random event double being
in between the rounds of the MPO and FPO. I
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don't like it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I feel like, no matter how you look at it,
I don't like it. Maybe you could, maybe someone could
convince me, but currently I don't have anything that I
can be convinced with. And you even mentioned there's only
four teams, and this is nothing against those teams, right, Like,
it's not against the people that are playing, it's the
people who organized it and allowed it to happen. Really,
(06:31):
I don't think that anything should be happening during tournament play,
Like we're pretty strict. The protoor is pretty strict with
like making sure that people are not practicing the course
while play is going on. And even if you're a player,
if you're a player, your spectator, Like people want to
play the course, we get that, but until the last
putt drops on eighteen, we don't allow anybody to go
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on the course. So it's just interesting that we have
allowed that, and then it's only for four teams. It's
not like it's this big thing. It's just for a
small group of people.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So just like how did they get chosen? You know,
like how did they get picked out of the lottery
of millions of people who live near Maple Hill and
would love the opportunity to play it in this layout?
You know, how did they get picked?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So yeah, very interesting, Yeah, weird situation.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
But anyways, that happened, and congrats, I guess so the
winners whoever won that an outside factor that made this
event really stressful to the players was that there was shuttles,
so similar to smugs. We had to shuttle from a
middle school that was ten minutes down the road, and
it was very stressful. Some people have shuttle anxiety, so
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they actually have their caddies drop them off at the
course and then their caddy will go to the middle
school drop off their car and then drive separately because
they're so scared to miss their tea time. And this
is unfortunate too because at Maple Hill they don't have
like warm up us. There's one basket like often the
pine trees, there's not really a lot of area to
putt and then there's like one tiny net there, so
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it's like for people who wanted to go there and
get dropped off, there wasn't much to warm up with,
and all the discolf strong stuff was at the middle school.
So that was just like another factor that like really
weirded some people out. And people like Rebecca Cox, like
she struggled with carsickness, so she'd get to the course
and be like all wheezy, So that kind of brought
(08:26):
it like an extra stressor to the course, and that
or getting to the course, and then this event had
the famous whole. They call them eight holes. They are
spectators who hang out on Whole eight and just cheer
their butts off all day long. They get there at
it feels like seven am before the first sea time
even goes. I will say some of the Europeans have
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a really hard time with this because it's so loud.
I talked to Haiti Lney and she was like, if
this was at every event, it would be really stressful.
She's like, thankfully it's just this one. Yeah, but I
don't know, like, how would you feel like coming from
Europe where everything's like super quiet, and then all of
a sudden, you like, you show up to this event
and it's like, you know, America baby like loud and proudly.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
See like the shock factor to that. Yeah, I think
I agree with her. If it was like something, if
there was something like that at every event, it would
definitely be a lot. But I think that's just kind
of like the Maple Hill tradition, so we allow it.
They are so loud you can hear them. I feel
like at least in half of the course, oh like
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during the whole shops, during your put the whole course great.
Oh yes, it's like hearing this cheering on top of
the big crowd that's always that hole one and eighteen,
so it's like there's just like a bunching on. Yeah,
it's a lot, but the eight holers are definitely like
some of the loudest, like they definitely pride themselves on that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So yeah, yeah, across the tour, for sure, I could
see it being a lot. Yeah, But getting into the
actual tournament play round one, they had the pin position
for a whole one and short position, which we haven't
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really played in DGPT events. I know, I think you
would have loved it back in the day. I think
you would have really liked that position. But it was
just past the lake and then the pin position for
whole nine was long, and I was curious, Christine, do
you like the idea of having different pin positions for
different rounds instead of like maybe playing two different courses
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they have maybe they just switch these pin positions so
it's almost like changing the course. Well, it is changing
the course.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think this would be like a perfect example of
a course that should do that, because like you were
at GMC last week and we had a playoff event,
but there were two courses, so you alternated the courses.
Here there's four rounds, but you're playing the same course
four rounds, So then that could get like really really redundant.
So then in that case, maybe do the same thing,
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like alternate them back and forth. I think they might
do that at USCGC. I think you're right, there's like
a couple pins that move. I don't know if it
does for FPO, but specifically for MPO I know, so yeah,
I think it's a good way to change some things up.
It doesn't have to be a lot. Even if you
just changed like two or three holes up a little bit,
that's enough to make a difference, I think well.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And I also think it makes the players pay more
attention to like their practice rounds and their placements. And
it's not just like oh, I play the same exact
placement every single round, it's just the shot. It's like,
oh dang, like there's a longer position, like it's a
different kind of shot shape. And then also like knowing
what round you're playing into which position. I think it's
also yes, yeh Hailey King actually took down this event
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last year in a playoff against Chris and Tatar and
I was surprised to see that she was not on
the feature card for round one, And uh, what do
you think about that? Do you think, well, hold on,
do you think it should be if someone wins the
event prior to the present year, do you think they
should automatically just get on feature card or is that
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just like, you know, whatever they won last year?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Did you say the new year? Did you say the
previous winner to be on feature card? Yes, yes, the
previous winner I believe should be on future card because
they are technically the defending champion. Okay, but runner up questionable?
You could you could convince me, yeah, I think so.
The way DGN does it right now is basically just
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like who who's playing hot or who has some things
going on that we can like make a storyline around.
But I like the runner up thing too. That's a
good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, and for everyone listening, I would love I would
love if we made another post about if we should
bring back fan votes. I think that was such a
fun thing back in the day when I first got
on the road for DGPT was being voted onto a
feature card was like super exciting, Like when I was
new to the road. I was like, oh my gosh,
I got voted on. So I think that would be
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a fun thing to bring back. And I'm curious if
others would think the same too, because I think we
see a lot of the same faces. But it was
really surprising not to see Haley King on that lead card.
But I will say round one the weather was ugly
and wet, which at Maple Hill does not make for
a fun day. The players were talking about how the
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pavers that they use for the teapads just don't make
for really good footing in rainy conditions. So Christine, what
shoes do you like rocking in rainy conditions? I really
love my Adida's tear X, and I think that's one
that the disc golfers in like the disc golf community
has like really fallen in love with over the years.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I used to wear the tar Rex and then I
found Nike Gortex, like the Nike trail Runners, I think
they are those weren't bad. I think the when in
what conditions the Tereks and the gor Tex were equally
slick like. They weren't horrible, but they weren't perfect. I
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have since moved to Vivo barefoots and those are great
in all conditions, in all conditions.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, so I like I have not played those in
all conditions. Anyways, our leaders had no trouble shooting four down.
We had three ladies tied for first place. Missy Kannon
shot an incredible, incredibly clean round with four birdies, where
players like Raven Klein who snatched up eight birdies on
the round, but she had a few bogies and a
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double to bring her back. I know she was eight
down through those conditions. Was really crazy. But I had
a super weird incident that I would love to share,
and I'm curious if you've ever heard of. So I
was playing whole fifteen and my shot went kick left,
my whole entire card and all of our spectators were
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off on the left side of the fairway looking for
my disk, and we started the three minute timer. Card
behind us had no idea we were still on the
hole and threw. There was not a spotterer on this
hole yet, so they threw. I guess there was a
few of them that threw before realizing we were on
the hole, so all of a sudden they stopped. I
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have a lost disk. I have to go back throw Anyways,
we get to the green and see this random disc.
Nobody's been to the green yet, and we see this
random disc no name on it, and we're like, oh,
maybe the card in front of us forgot to pick
up their disc. Mind you, I did not know anyone
had thrown in on me. I was over in the bushes.
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No clue, no idea, no clue. We picked up this
disc and we're like, oh, I guess we'll leave it
on the next hole. So the card behind us doesn't
think it's ours. I find out at that and in
my round the card behind me had Cadence Berg throw
in on us. We pick up her disc because it
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was not marked, take it to the next hole. The
cruel is called eight zero five point zero three. It's
a lost disc, so whatever. They probably looked for her
disk for three minutes. And then in section E, if
it is discovered prior to the completion of the tournament
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that a player's disc that had been declared the loss
had been removed or taken prior to it being declared lost,
then two throws are subtracted from the player's score for
that hole. Who so Cadence Cadence went back. I'm assuming
I'm assuming she went back, played lost disc, walked to
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the next hole, saw her disc on the table, and
got two strokes back. It was the craziest thing in
the way.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Do you happen to know what her score was that
she took?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It was a five? She took a three?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Whoa, But when you pick the disc up, was it
like parked or was it like, uh it was?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It was circle two? Okay, circle two, And that's that's
why we like band.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Up her taking a three anyways, Sure, yes, okay. I
was just like trying to think, like, did you get
benefited in this way? Or that's crazy? You get two
strokes back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You get two strokes back if someone picks up your
disc and you find out they they took it, like
you couldn't find it. It's not like you could replace
it because usually like if I pick up someone's disc
and we realized I picked it up, we can put
it back, you know, if I don't play out the hole.
But we we just took her disk. It was unmarked.
So technically when I found this out, I'm like, well,
technically she should get a stroke back because she didn't
(17:52):
mark it. Yes, you know, so crazy situation only and Honestly,
this is the first story I will be sharing with
you that was very interesting from this weekend. Anywhow that
was round one, round two. The past few events, Holland
(18:14):
Hanley has been struggling round one. I don't know what
her deal is. She's just like not like getting off
on a good start. But man, her round twos are
like boom, kicking it into second gear because she jumped
twelve spots to get into the top five for round three,
and she's been she's been doing that the last like
three events, and she said it too, She's like, I
(18:34):
just keep Yeah, she gets started round I know. So
maybe maybe at Throw Pink we see her get started
a little bit more early. Because she is our defending
champion from last year. It was really exciting to see
page Piers playing well. She actually scored an ace on
whole fifteen, a three hundred and twenty two tunnel shot
(18:57):
with a valley halfway through the fairways, so it was
crazy and she was like running to go get the ace,
which like I was a little nervous about because like
her ankle, But I just think that goes to show
she's feeling like super confident in her ankle. To like
be able to throw these shots like on the pavers
in the weather, run through all these like roots and stuff.
(19:19):
And she's also wearing her brand new signature shoe with
Idio Sports, which it's a mid, so I think like
maybe that's giving some extra some extra trust to the ankle. Okay,
but by the end of the round. By end of
round two, Kristen was leading the vision by three strokes
over Missy Kiannon and Ownssgoggins owned Sloggins. I feel like
(19:40):
has just been always like in the mix, but it's
like whether it's her day or not, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Round three, Elahansa k Ala Hansen came into the clubhouse
with a hot six down and eighty seven percent C
one x putting percentage's sneaking to the top four and
personally like, do you see this as being a course
for Ella? Like I personally don't. I see like an
Ivy hill being an ELLA course, but I don't see
(20:10):
a maple hill being an ELLA course other than maybe
she can reach some of those birdie holes that maybe
the women can't reach, like they're super uphill and she
can get that extra power. But I don't usually see
this as her kind of track.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You know what I think is interesting with Ella. She
has like those sneaky mid range lines. She's like real
good at throwing those mid ranges. On Heiser flips on.
Ann Heiser's like, she's so good at throwing mids. So
I feel like in this type of course, she just
had a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I agree. I agree. Uh, you have a huge advantage
on the division if you can throw a mid range
instead of a driver, especially like when kicks happen. Yeah,
I totally agree. We did see Natalie Ryan struggle to
say clean once we hit the wooded holes during round three, three,
four or five. She took bogeys and just fell off
the leaderboard on during that. And then Parr is great
(21:07):
at Mimple Hill, and Christen was playing consistently, even taking
a turkey on me back nine, while Missy finished the
round three back of Christen going into championship Sunday, Okay,
so only three back from Kristen, and I was like,
really like cheering for my girl Kristen to take like
(21:28):
her first win at Maple Hill. Yeah yeah, okay, wait,
I have two more stories before we get into final round.
Your girl played a whole wrong you did I played
(21:49):
whole one. I played whole one wrong. So hole one
is now a triple mando in the long position, and
so on my second shot, I missed the triple mando
and the spotter marked my shot, and so my brain
was like, oh, I play from over there because he
marked it. So I laid up to the mouth of
(22:09):
the mando and then I jump putt missed the jump putt.
Holly comes over to me at this point she says, hey, Kona, you,
I think you've played the whole wrong. You miss the mando.
So there's actually a drop zone you should have proceeded to.
And I sit there and I'm like, crap. So I
go to the drops, go to the drop zone, bang
(22:29):
the drop zone, putt okay, oh god, and go to
the next hole. And we're like, all right, we will
figure that out at the end of the round because
that was a lot. Come to find out. I end
up breaking another rule on whole seven. I'm going for
(22:50):
a jump putt, and there's this rule in the DGPT
rules that you can move spectator ropes only if they
are inside you're lying. Well, I moved a spectator rope
like five ft in front of me brain not working,
I'm a I'm like nowhere to be found. At this point,
whole one just completely derailed.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You knock and I'm not there. I'm just my brain's
just like trying to figure it out. I tried. I
got some birds like birdies though, like hold two, I
parked like I was getting some birdies. And then I
do that and Holly's like, hey, yeah, you broke another rule. Sorry,
and I'm like, man, what is going.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Honestly, I love that it was Holly that was giving
you this news though, because I feel like she's one
of the best people to break news like that. Dude.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So, ConA Montgomery was not feeling herself. I was going
through some lady issues and man, I just like my
brain was not there. I couldn't control my emotions. I
was so upset. But yeah, ConA, ConA broke two rules.
So that's one. That's one story I have. So now,
going in to the final round, I'm supposed to play
(24:03):
with I'm not gonna name a name, but I'm supposed
to play with this player. And I show up to
my tea time twenty minutes before my tea time and
I see someone else and I'm like, hey, like, you're
supposed to tee off like after me, and she's like, hey,
your player on your card called this morning and d nft.
I got a call from Brian Cole at seven am.
(24:24):
Mind you I t off at eight twenty. I got
a call from Brian Cole at seven am telling me
I needed to be here twenty minutes before I was
supposed to, not me, but this player, and so this
players like, I haven't even eaten breakfast, I haven't gotten ready.
So she jams to the course. She gets there, she
(24:45):
like warms up as best as she could. But it's like, man,
I can't imagine someone calling me in the morning and
being like, hey, you need to be here in the
next hour because someone's full, because someone dnfed, they didn't
want to show up this morning, So you got to
do it now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You were originally a fouresome, right, No, oh, you were
a threesome. That's why, because I'm like, if you're a
force on, what's the deal, Like, you'll just play a
little bit quicker.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So that was also crazy to start my round. So yeah,
that was my final round. Yeah, anyways, for our lead
card final round, we had Missy Gannon, Chris and guitar
and Ownschoggin's and Ella Hanson on our card for the
final day, and man, it was a battle out there.
(25:38):
I just feel like it was back and forth and
like our ladies were just getting birdies, but bogies. But man,
it all came down to the finish because Chris and
Tutar took a bogie on seventeen and a double on eighteen,
which she really struggled with. And yeah, Christine, I want
to hear what you have to say about the finish.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So on whole seventeen, Kristin Tatar is probably like, I
don't know, twelve to fifteen feet from the basket, makes
a putt looks to be dead center, maybe a little
low right, and it goes through the chains and spits out,
slops back on the other side. And at this point
(26:21):
I think if she would have made that put she
would have been leading by one stroke going into Holy
eighteen because that missed putt now caused them to tie
going into eighteen, so that could have like frazzled some nerves.
She's also at this point for this final round, she
had a lot of like early releases with her harp
up shot, Like we know that that harp Upshot is
(26:43):
like her bread and butter, and she just like had
slight like up you know, early releasas most of the
time she recovered those early releases by making the putts
on the green. But just to you know, put that
into context for her approach on Holy eighteen, where she
saw it off little bit, She's needed a little bit
more power to get it up into the green. So
(27:05):
my thing is like, there's always the one thing that
you can blame it on, right, there could have been
something on hole too where you're like, oh, well, Kristin
missed that approach and like caused herself a stroke, and
so you know that could have made a difference. Like
there's always that one thing that could make a difference.
But I was just like I feel like in those
intense moments, it always sticks in my brain and it's
like what is the player thinking or like how are
(27:26):
they trying to like overcome that like that spit out.
I don't think it was a bad put. It just
went through the basket and that sucks, And so like
is that something that where if she made that put
would she have had a more confident Upshot who knows,
but it's funny.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think it always goes back to the disc never
lies is like my favorite saying.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah. But then so Kristin fluffed her upshot and ended
up obi Missy. On the other hand, I was impressed
by the foehands she was throwing. Okay, I know, like
throughout the season, I feel like we've seen her like
progress the forehand. We've seen originally shorter approaches, shorter upshots,
(28:10):
and then now like there was a couple times where
she was like smashing two fifty to three hundred foot
forehand just like confident, like oh no big deal, and
I'm like what, and so then a whole pressure situation. Yeah.
So then on eighteen pressure situation like small green, hard,
hard hole, she just put chips up beforehand, gets onto
(28:32):
the green, takes the prettiest but she did it works right, Yes, yes,
So that was super fun to watch. It was very
exciting finish. Unfortunately, Kristen wasn't able to take down the wind.
Just adding on to that second place finish.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Her fourth second place finish at Maple Hill, Yeah, poor thing.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's crazy. But as always, I want to wrap up
with some stats because your girl loves some stats. So
these stats are from the entire round or the entire event,
not specific to rounds, and I thought that these were
kind of fun, so I want to go over them.
(29:19):
Missy Gannon. Our winner was seventy five percent Circle two
in regulation For those that don't know what circle two
and regulation is, the player is able to get the
disc from the tpad in circle two for birdy opportunity
period right period, thinking in my head like is there more?
(29:42):
But no, that's it, Harry. So she was able to
get herself into circle two for birdy opportunity fifty four
out of seventy two times. That's pretty good. I mean,
if it circle one that would be even hotter. But
like the fact that you're getting that many shots into
circle two just means that you're having easier opportunities to
at least par Like, if you're not getting yourself birdies
(30:05):
from circle two, that's fine easy par Own had the
longest average putt at sixteen point five feet, which is
always interesting. I don't I'm assuming these count the circle
one x tappens, but her total putt was one thousand,
one hundred and eighty eight feet. I feel like we
always talk about like, oh, you know, Ohn make so
(30:26):
many long putts, like I wonder what her total is. Well,
you can look on PDGA and they're there.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I did want to say when it comes to Own's putting, yes,
we always give her like high praise, but I would
love to give a huge shout out to Own specifically
for the MVP Open and these putting stats, because I
would say MVP has some of the scariest screens when
it comes to putting, whether it's death puts or they're
(30:53):
downhill uphill roots. I feel like MVP's Maple Hills Greens
has some of the scariest. So I would say that
her putting percentage and her total put in feet is
even more impressive here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I agree. So yeah, that's a lot of footage.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Page Piers had the longest throw in at three hundred
and twenty two feet, which is funny because I didn't
even know that you were going to talk about an
ace and I didn't realize it was an ace.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And I was like, throw in, that was a straight
up ace. Girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I was just looking at the stats and it said
throw and I'm like, dang, that's a big throw in.
I'm gonna talk about that straight up ace. It was
an ace that's so funny. And then Hannah blom roosse
led the field and parked percentage at fourteen percent. She
was able to park ten out of seventy two t shots.
(31:50):
She does that pretty good. Yeah, fourteen percent, it doesn't
seem like a lot, but if you look at the
stats at the rest of the field, it was significantly
more than the rest. And then final Holly Finley had
a ninety two percent C one x put percentage, making
fifty seven out of sixty two putts. Imagine like you're
(32:11):
in your yard practicing sixty two putts and like, sure
you could probably make fifty seven out of sixty two
of those, but like in a pressure situation and a
tournament to make fifty seven out of sixty two in
like weird conditions, like you said, roots and elevation, that's good.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, And something I would like to say about Holly
Finley is she's one player that I've noticed in the
FPO field that really understands the wrist and like I
feel like it's like in the past it's maybe got
her into trouble with how like understanding the risks so much,
but she's someone in the division that I feel like
truly understands. Like the Rist flick.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I agree well. ConA was able to reach out to
Raven Klein via messages. It's not a void recording, however,
ConA had a small little interview with her. The first
question that we asked Raven Klein is is there anything
specific that you've been focusing on in your game that
has led to your recent success.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She mentions, in the last couple of weeks, I've actually
been thinking less about the game itself and practicing trusting
in the abilities I know I have and that I've
built over the last few seasons. I've been putting more
focus in off the course and on myself, finding my
consistency again in the gym, making sure I'm getting all
my vitamins and minerals, in taking time for myself, and
(33:35):
paying more attention to all aspects of my health physically
and mentally.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We love a mental health and wellness queen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Very mindful, very demure. God, I hate myself.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Because I just cringe.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I did so hard.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's amazing. I love that. The nice question.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean, I think a lot of have like issues
kind of sitting down with themselves and dealing with some
of this stuff, especially at the end of the season.
I think our pros struggle really hard mentally, so it's
really good that she's doing that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, for sure. We also asked how has your mental
game developed since joining the tour and what keeps you
focused during the tough rounds and vice versa. How do
you settle the nerves on the rounds you're performing.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, this one's a little bit long, but I think
this is a good nugget. My mental game is one
of the things I'm most proud of because since I
can remember, I've been incredibly hard on myself. I've always
expected so much, and when I think I should be
good at something and I don't perform to the high
standard I set for myself, I can get mean to me.
(34:45):
It's something I've been working on for years. However, with
disc golf, especially in my first year on the road,
I practice giving myself grace. In twenty twenty two, my
first year touring, I'd only been playing for a little
over a year, and each week I would be playing
against someone younger than me who'd been playing for over
ten years or more, and I'd have to remind myself
(35:06):
that this game requires time and dedication and sacrifices. You
have to make mistakes to learn from them. So I
would just look for something positive or new that I
did every weekend, and I would hold on to those
positives to move me forward. For example, got a second
to last place in Utah in twenty twenty one. I
was so ecstatic because I threw my first ever fourhand
(35:28):
approach in a tournament.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Wasn't last and I played above my rating. So I
think that's also just a pro tip to just stay positive.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Now I have improved and have started to make better
decisions on the course, and I'm playing better. I've been
in higher pressure situations at a camera's on me, or
am I myself that I have to put in time
that I deserve it as much as anyone else. Disc
Golf has made up a small moments of my life.
There are a lot of uncontrollables, so when mistakes happen,
I let them exist in a bubble as best as
I can. I believe the course has an infinite amount
(36:03):
of luck, so if unlucky things happen to me, someone
must be getting lucky, and eventually tides will turn. I
love that.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That whole answer made me so happy. I know, I
recently made a I found a post on Instagram, so
I shared it on my story and it basically said,
everyone like has all these negative things that happen and
they want to like focus on all you know today,
I don't know it rained on me or whatever there is,
like you always want to find the glimmers. The post
(36:32):
called it a glimmer, So try to find a glimmer
in your day and focus on that glimmer, or try
to find more of those glimmers rather than focusing on
those negatives. And that, like what raven answer just made
me think of that immediately, Like she always just finds
like the smallest positive things and just like rolls with
it and takes it. And I love that. And she
has grown a lot since she got on tour, Like
(36:53):
we've seen her on coverage a few times this year,
and like she said, she said it very well, like
she just uses that to you know, as experience, and
you know, of course she wants to do well, but
if anything, she just takes it as a little glimmer.
We had a couple more questions for her. The next
one was what was your proudest moment on the course
this past weekend. At MVP last.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Seagon, last season, I was notorious for having a bowed
round one and digging myself out of a hole for
the rest of the event. This year, I've had a
couple good first rounds and then I fall off pace.
My proudest moment of this weekend was even though round
one was in fact my best of the event and
the year, I never fell past the chase card. I
(37:36):
held my own with the top ladies of the support
and showed people what I am capable of. Oh and
I had a freaking blast the whole time. I made mistakes,
I corrected mistakes, I got difficult berdies, I made big puts,
I missed some donkers, and I laughed and I smiled
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We need more, We need some more Raven in our lives.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, I think we're gonna have to have Raven Klein
on the on the podcast, have.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Some conversations with her.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The final question we had was if you could give
one piece of advice to yourself when you first started touring,
what would it be.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
She says, it's okay to ask for help and accept
help that is offered. When you're on the road, the
weeks can get long and be difficult. You don't have
to do it all by yourself, which also ties into
having a great support system. Make friends, but don't force friends.
Not everyone is supposed to fit into your life or
your energy. Have a good support system, and look for
people that enrich your life, not people who suck the
(38:28):
life out of you and exhaust you. On my whiteboard
in my VN, I have quotes when I consistently remind
myself of good decisions come from experience. Experiences come from
making bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
What And I don't know what the word is, like aware,
she's so aware. There's like she's very wise people. Yeah,
whyse is a good word. Yeah, she's like.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Very And I think, but I think the road does
that to you, Like I think I think we experience
a lot out here, and you, like, especially those who
like have to tour by themselves. Like maybe your car
breaks down on the way somewhere and you have to
figure it out by yourself, or you need to find
somewhere to stay and there's no walmarts, you have to
(39:12):
find a host, you have to go out of your
comfort zone. So I think the road makes you grow
up really fast and makes you adaptable very quick.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah for sure. Well, those answers to the questions that
you asked her made me very happy, and so I
want to end on that happy note. But everyone else
feels the same way. So that was the recap on MVP.
We do have an off week before we get into
USGC slash Throw Pink Women's SCOFF Championship next weekend, and
(39:42):
then that rolls us into Tour Championships, which is then
the end of the year for the Golf Pro Tour.
So yeah, we will cut you guys next week. We'll
find some things to talk about, and then we'll see
you later.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
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