March 5, 2025 • 47 mins
Welcome back to the Partee! WE MISSED YOU! This is the place where Hannah, Christine, and Kona talk all things disc golf (and sometimes produce bonus episodes with interviews with women from the Disc Golf Pro Tour). This episode covers why we took a long break from the show, the drama surrounding PDGA president of the board Nate Heinold, and DGPT schedule changes. Have you ever wanted your local courses to be on the DGPT? You can learn a thing or ten from this episode. Come Partee with us!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Party people? Welcome back to the podcast. I'm Hannah McBeth, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Christine Jennings, I'm ConA Montgomery.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And today we are bringing back the Party podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Basically, what happened, and I mean basically was we all
started out on this adventure and then we got hit
by some pretty big things. I had a child and
was trying to manage having a child on tour, and
then I had a bunch of health problems.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Christine, what's been what happened to you?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Basically same except I don't have a child.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
I've just been hit with health problems for like the
last handful of years, and.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I feel like they're actually getting worse. So hopefully we
figure that out.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
But I've just been like in my own shell for
the last few months, just trying to figure it out and.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
You know, being quiet about it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
ConA, how have you been to it?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? You know, I've been dealing with some health stuff too.
You know, my gall bladder's all missed up, my liver's
not great. You know, it's just it's so fun.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So basically, girl, we're changing this podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We're just gonna do like get together every week and
discuss how all of our ailments are so without further into.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Swoosh No.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So we started the Party podcast to just cover fpo
in disc golf, and we still want to do that,
but it just became a huge task to pay attention
to everything that was happening week in and week out
on tour, watch all the live coverage, pay attention to
the headlines, which ninety percent of the time were annoying
(01:44):
and ridiculous, and then try to talk about the pro tour,
get together, you know, find places to do, have Wi Fi.
And then everything kind of shut down for the off
season and we all kind of just needed to take
a break, so we kind of abandoned all of you.
But we're back and we have the intention to keep
(02:05):
going and started up again. I don't know how long
the podcast will go. I think we're gonna aim for
like thirty to forty minutes per Christine's request. And also
that's just like I feel like a normal amount of time, Like.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Listen, it's seven thirty and I'm in my pajamas.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm just covering it up.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
With something that's never changed.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I did want to say thank you so much
to all of you who have reached out and asked
where we are. We kind of did like the Hannah
When episode, and then we were like, well that was it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We peaked and we just got to get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We took ConA on and we were like, yeah, ConA,
come join our show, and then we just kind of
left her to do stuff on her own. So I
guess if you had to like pick a few updates
to share, like maybe one or two, I can start,
please do.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So I after I.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Had Pablo, I had like a ton of health issues.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
My thyroid like gave up on me and pretty much
like moved away to California to be an actor. And
then my body and my skin just like got really
dried out, and I had like X one like all
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And I'm like, are you I'm like, why are you
doing this?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Like I'm just still laughing about California.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So good.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So then I my hair was like falling out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was like overly emotional about certain things and I
just wasn't myself and most people would be like, well,
you just had a baby, so your postpartum and I
accepted that and I moved on and then I went
on the road, and every Sunday it was packing everything
that we own into a box and on Monday unpacking
it in a new place and deciding what your new
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version of normal was going to be. And for me,
that was keeping me in this constant state of like
fight or flight, Like I was constantly stimulated in some
kind of way, and I didn't notice it because your
body is very adaptable, and I think it wasn't as
dramatic as I make it sound all the time, but
it was a lot of effort. It's constant showing up
(04:19):
for things, and if you don't, stuff falls through the cracks,
and when you have a baby, you can't allow a
lot of stuff to fall through the cracks. So I thought, okay, well,
maybe it's just that I've been traveling. And then I
stopped traveling and I went home, and I thought, maybe, okay,
it's because I was breastfeeding Pablo. So we stopped that
and he turned one years old and I was still
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having like the same symptoms that I had when he
was three months old. So I went to the doctor
and established care with a physician, and they sent me
to someone to have testing done on my thyroid. They
looked at it, and they saw that I had two
really big nodes. So I actually took myself off of
so media in January because I was going to have
(05:02):
them checked for thyroid cancer and I could not book
an appointment right away. And it kind of reminded me
of like, this is like what discolfirst deal with, because
it was November when I made my appointment and like
started getting all of my testing done but then didn't get.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Seen until January.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I got my results like days before the Supreme Flight open,
and I've been off social media for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It's been nice. We talked about that later.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I am good. I do not have anything. I have
tumors on my thyroid, but as of right now they're.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Benign, Praise the Lord.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I'm working with a woman who is like checking
me and she's got my system like it's a case,
and she's a detective, like she's got my health like
it's a case. Since she's a detective, she's going through
like my family history, dramatic experiences and all that stuff.
And this is the long winded way of saying, like
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that's what I've been dealing with. It's a lot of
looking in the mirror feeling a certain way and just
being like, why is this happening to me?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like, I eat healthy, I have an active lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I feel like I'm a.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Very normal person, and I just feel awful.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm so tired.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I had extremely tiredness my skin. My hair was falling
out like crazy. Thank god I have such thick hair
because you can't really notice, but like, obviously we notice.
I was bloating over the most random things. I was
like overly emotional. Like I said, it was like I
went to Disney and I walked by a little girl
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with a Mawana T shirt and I started crying.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh, like why am I crying like that? So what's happening?
I know, like you could.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Explain it away, but it's not really that normal to
have that reaction for me.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I signed up for like a bunch of tournaments
this winter.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I haven't been able to play any of them. So
I do appreciate people who have asked where I was.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Or where I am and how I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think ConA and obviously Christine, but ConA, you were
the only person who really like from the discolf world
reached out to me and was like, how are you
and you didn't even know that any of this was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Girl. I was on your on your butt, yeah, how
are you? And then as soon as you told me
that you were getting like your U biopsy, I was like, Hannah,
how are Hannah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Hannah, So did you get your results yet? Did you
get them yet? Yeah? Are you okay? Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It was so amazing to have someone who like went
through the same testing as me to just be like,
I know, like it sucks, it doesn't make sense, it's
not fun, it's it's oh the weirdest feeling.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I was just like you see me.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I felt so like seen and known and conas so
Mama baar about it too. She's like, yes, I don't know, ConA,
You're so good with your words when somebody's struggling.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It'd be great.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I can go.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'll piggyback on the thyroid situation.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Mine's not as dramatic as ConA and Hannah's situation.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
But basically the end of last year, I.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Got my hormones tested and I had low thyroid hormone.
So I've been trying to like fix that. The doctor
gave me some medication for it, and I don't feel different.
There's like a couple symptoms that have gotten better, but
like overall, I have very similar symptoms as Hannah does,
and it's not it's not getting any better. So I'm
also working with someone similar to Hannah. It's not the
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same person, but like basically same type of medicine, and
so Hannah and I are actually like on the same
timeline of like getting our test results.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
So I'm kind of excited for that.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
But yeah, basically I'm trying to work through that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
And I think because I've been traveling for so long,
like since I started playing disc golf professionally and traveling
and then I got the job with the disc Off
Pro Tour and traveled, I've just been like go, go go,
And on top of that, I love working so like
outside of my normal job, you know, I always take
on other ventures for myself, and so I think it
(09:13):
was just like I was piling it on on top
of my health issues. So since you know, basically last year,
I've kind of been a hermit crab, staying at my house,
you know, trying not to travel, taking care of just
like putting myself into routine to like get myself out
of that fight.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Or flight mode with traveling all the time. But like
I said, it hasn't been helping.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
So I think if anything, it's like I've had time
to chill and you know, time to reflect on what
I can do to get better and.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Hopefully this next journey will help me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Mmm.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It finds you though, because I've been off social media
and I went on last night for like the first time,
and I was like, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It was so much.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Information at once, and I was like, this is overwhelming me.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's exhausting. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And it used to not be that, like correct me
if I'm wrong, But back in the day, it used
to be like I took this picture. Here's how I'm doing,
you know what I mean. Like it would be like, oh,
I'm at this tournament. Here's a picture of the fountain.
I'm at Fountain Hills. He he good for me, never
been here before or whatever, And it was like picture
with a little caption and you were just sharing what
you had going on.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And then that evolved into Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm sharing what I have going on, but I'm going
to doctor it so it looks way better.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Than it actually was.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And then that turned into Okay, I'm sharing what's going
on and this is how I am, and I'm going
to doctor me so that you constantly think that I'm
just like on my A game. And then that turned
into yeah, I read an article or I had an
experience at a discolf tournament, or I saw a video
once and here's how I felt about it, and in
(10:54):
this essay I will and you're just like, cause like,
can you imagine I said this to Paul today, Like
I was scrolling and I saw a shirtless pick of
someone who was just like, oh, I just finished at the.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Gym, Like whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just like finishing a workout and somebody that you're friends
with just comes up to you with their shirt off
and they're just like, hey, just finished the workout.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
What do you think I help? I'm just like overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I just want to know how you are and if
it's serious, let's talk about it in person. But like otherwise,
just so many pictures of your of you like and
the cool things that you're doing.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
ConA, what generation are you? Technically You're not a millennial.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Eighteen ninety eight, No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
You're in between millennials gen z no, what's the one
in between gen Z.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She's not Jenny, are you jen X?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's sad.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I think it's the one in between millennial and Z.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
My point was, Hannah and I are old, so we're millennials,
and ConA is a generation behind us, so she's still
a little hick.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You can tell us what's the slang?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
What's slang? Like I know slang in.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, col that you have to give us your update.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, so you guys are dealing with thyroid problems, and honestly,
my life has been great without when oh, you know,
when I had the thyroid stuff, it was like or
when I had my thyroid, I was going through all
kinds of like weight changes and mood swings and all
this random stuff happening with my body. And ever since
getting it removed and getting it on like a solid medication,
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my energy has never been better. I can play a
practice round and I don't feel like I have to
nap afterwards, and that used to be like a go
to for me. Yeah, it's huge, that's so goomb But
like other yeah, other than like that, my gallbladder is
just confusing because like we've been eating really healthy recently,
like really clean, but like, I still have a lot
(12:55):
of pain every day. So I'm going back home and
getting a test done to see if the output that
my gallbladder is doing is enough, because like they're thinking
my gallbladder's squeezing, and then it's not quite squeezing enough
and there's just like, U not sludge because I don't
have sludge. We figured that out, which is good. It's
(13:16):
good that's not there. Yeah, but it's really got to
go home get some more tests done. But I'm really
tired of seeing doctors. I was gonna go home and
get surgery on my tear ducks to help my tears,
but I opted out of it because it's like an
optional surgery. I don't really feel like going back under anesthesia,
and I'd rather just deal with having weepy eyes. Honest,
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what is that? It was really annoying at first, but
so the radioactive iodine I took to get rid of
all my cancer killed my salvary glands and it dried
my tear ducks out completely. So yeah, no cancer, but
those two things are not fun.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah wow, But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Other than that, I feel good. I mean, Colt and
I have been eating so clean since getting back on
the road, Like I can see my jaw line and
my cheeks again, like no, not like puffy in my face,
which like during off season, I feel like I was
just like so puffy and like weird. But now that
we're eating a lot cleaner, I feel a lot cleaner.
And now it's just like getting back to getting into
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the gym and getting back into tour life. Man, it's
been it's been.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Roughen Why has it been rough?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I guess it's been rough in the sense of like
getting back into waking up at six am to make
breakfast and making sure I wait at least thirty minutes
after taking my medication in the morning to eat because
otherwise my absorption isn't good, or being on the you
know course again and like I had a hole uh
with on I'm played with anikin stan H or Stine whatever,
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and she's awesome, love her, And I threw this shot
and it was like a bomb, but I like was like, man,
it's probably o' be like kind of like angry, and
she like walks up to me and she's like, girl,
it's not over till it's over. And we got up
there and it was safe. So it's like getting back
into the mentality of like I don't need to get
upset before I actually see what's going on. And just
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like playing golf again, like I'm trying to throw huge
shots and I really just need to like Chip Chip
Pari chip Birdie, but instead I'm like, I can throw far,
but I don't need to. So it's like just getting
back into that mental aspect of disc golf again that
I haven't had to experience for a hot minute.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Did you feel like last year it was a little
bit easier to get into it because it was a.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
New venue and there was a lot more excitement about it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, for me, it was the first year playing, so
it was like I was new and excited. But I
think because it was my first time there, then that
aspect of like playing golf didn't really come to my brain.
Oh oh yeah, you know, new cores, how cool. I
actually really enjoyed the course. So shout out Pau macbeth
or you know, I know he had something to do
with it, but it was it Mike Barnett who did
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a lot of the design.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, yes, and then Paul lengthened some holes and they
changed some things up.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But yes, okay, I truly enjoyed the women's layout more
than I think a lot of people did. I heard
a lot of complaining, and I was like, I think
this is a great course for.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Fpu uh huh.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I agree. I heard a lot of good things. Madison
and Erica did the Jemas coverage as usual, the two
hot geese, and they kept saying that they loved it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But it might be one of those things where.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You're like, I better than Elvis.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's hard because you have to like hit your lines
right away.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I was gonna ask, like when Cona's like, oh, I
love it, and then people are saying maybe complaining about it,
I was gonna ask, do you think it's a distance
thing because Conna throws far?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But then when you mentioned that Madison and Erica.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Said that they loved it, then that's not the case, Like,
that's not the trend of like, oh far through.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I didn't think you really needed to throw far on
this course. Yes, like you didn't need to, Then that's
my issue. I didn't need to.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's a lot of likes.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's just a disc golf course, period.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's such a good disc golf course because you have
to throw and you have.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
To know what your disc is gonna do, and it
has to do things other than just like go far
and hies her out.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I think a lot of people like, we love
LVC the courses, but I think the biggest difference and
the biggest thing that I heard from everyone was it
was nice to get into warm weather to start the season.
Like lvc's cool, but we were freezing cheeks at the
beginning of the season, where like it was so nice
to be in Florida and just be and be in
short sleeve in like T shirt.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh huh, yeah, yeah, Well we did have that tournament.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We could talk about it. Ella Hanson ended up taking
it down.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
She went into a playoff against Holland Hanley and Evely
and a Solinin. I watched some of the live coverage.
Pablo loves disc golf, so it's really fun because we
can't watch it in person.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He's way too loud.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He'll go wow, whoa and then he'll clap and he'll
go wow, it's so funny how fun it is. But
it's hard when it's a tournament because it's like, okay,
we have to be serious, and like people are trying
to pay attention. We were watching FPO and I got to
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see Holland looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
She has so much power off the TV, but.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It is really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
She carried the first two days, went into the third
day and the lead, and it was really cool to
see how in shape she is and how she allowed
it this year to translate into her disc golf game,
because I think that's something that people struggle with from
time to time, is now they have all of this
power and they don't have all of the control.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We also saw Ela Hanson out there.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
She was great, curious to know how she spent her
off season because she is in Oregon and it's not
really like go throw weather, so Anakin is actually staying
with me. For her, it was tricky and for a
lot of the other girls who come from the colder climates,
it was tricky because you have to really know your
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discs on a course like this, and she hasn't been
throwinge She's just been throwing into a net. So for
Ella to come in, I mean, that's amazing. And then
Evelino is up there as well. Evelina is funny. She's
this interesting player where she acts like she doesn't care,
but she obviously cares a lot, and you kind of
see her and she like kind of makes jokes and
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like laughs things off and is like always with like
the facial expression she's always emoting.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
She practiced in preparation for this. I honestly feel like
sometimes that helps when you go in a little unprepared
because you have zero expectations.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I was looking at the field, like the top ten,
and it's always That's like one thing I love about
FPO is there's always like different names that you see.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Like once we start getting into the groove of like
mid season, I feel like then we kind of start
seeing a pattern of Okay, this person's been on fire
for the last few events, so we start seeing them
on the podium consistently.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And things like that.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
But just like the spread of the first ten or
the top ten FPO players of this event is crazy,
Like you mentioned the top three, Macy Vella Diaz, like
she just had a baby last year, she came back
and took four, she took fifth, but like she was
up there with the lead card.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know, we have Rebecca Cox, Cadence.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Birds just like a mix of names that are so
exciting to me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, but then there's people like like cat Merch. Cat
Merch showed up to Florida, I think, like Legit two
weeks before Supreme Flight Open, like she had she had
six rounds, six or seven rounds in on that course
before the actual event, so she showed up for like
good weather for that like extra week and then like
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I played a practice round with her like on her
birthday day after her birthday, and she just looked dialed,
And I just think, like, you know, it's it's cool
when you can show up to an event, you can
practice that much. And I think a lot of people
like may See maybe a Haley King, have some and
vantage to only playing five or six events a season,
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because unlike people like me who are playing every single
week and you know, every single you know, your your
arm gets tired, you get a small injury, a finger injury,
but then you have to go play the next week.
I think those people who aren't playing as often, although
they're not on the road as much, and although maybe
their sponsors don't love that, I think they just have
that advantage of just having a fresh body.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I always wonder if that's really a big conversation that
people are having the longer we do this, because it
almost feels like ten years.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Ago the tour was a lot different. It was really
just like a group of people who.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Were like, Hey, these are all the A tours we
go to, so I guess we'll just keep doing that.
And then sometimes you would have these honeypot tournaments where
you could go there would be a big cash added
like Ledgstone was that for Katrina Allen.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But for the most part, there was.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like fifteen to twenty tournaments a year that all of
the top touring pros would go to, and it was
like an unspoken tour. And then you have the National
Tour spread out throughout the season, and then the majors,
which were like always changing, and it was just kind
of chaotic.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Back then, they had so much time off.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I was in college and Paul would like come visit
me all the time, and he'd be like, yeah, I
have two weeks off, Like I'll just come hang out
with your disc golf team and like hang out, and
he would just fly in and out, and then he'd
be like, yeah, I gotta go to Europe for two
weeks can I leave my RV here or like whatever,
and then I'll just come back. And then I got
to go to Pennsylvania for Worlds, but I have like
a week off in between, and I'm like, we leave
(22:37):
for Europe and when we come back in four days,
it's Ledgstone and it's a four day tournament. If you
come out and you are like, I'm gonna go to
the second half of the season, your sponsor's like pissed,
like what I don't like.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I think it depends on your sponsorship, because like I have,
you know, I have a I have a smaller amount
of events that I have to play with Inova than
I did with Dynamic, which is awesome. So it's like,
I think it depends on who you're with. I think
the sponsor might be like, hey, you know, maybe I'd
prefer you doing more clinics rather than playing all these events.
(23:10):
But also I feel like we have this pressure on
us to play, especially all the dgpts, because we're like,
we want to make the finale, like we want to
get the points. We want these awards because like there's
incentives there if you get Player of the Year by
DGPT that you get a bonus or something from like
your sponsor, Like there's all these little incentives now, but
(23:32):
I think it's almost getting unreasonable to play all the events,
especially for some of these players who don't have sponsors anymore,
because of how expensive everything is. Like for men to
play an event, it's like three hundred and fifty dollars.
I'm sorry. When I started playing disc golf, it was
like like one hundred. We were chilling, yes, And now
(23:53):
it's like, all of a sudden, sponsors are having to
put out what five thousand dollars at least if you
want to play all of the DGPT events, Like, I
think we're gonna have to find a little in between
here in the future to make it viable or it's
just not gonna be a thing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But also it's a gamble, I think, like you kind
of show up every week and you're like betting on
yourself because some people, I've had this conversation before where
I'm like, why don't you just play less events? Not
that bluntly, but I've suggested it to some people who
like struggle. You know, if you're not cashing and then
you take some time off and you figure it out
and you come back and you start cashing again.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like that's a good thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But they're like, yeah, but I'm one good round away
from making it happen.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So sometimes it's like a.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Bubble and when you come out of it, you're like, Oh,
I needed this zoomed out perspective, Like I need to
just see it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Like Discolve is not just the pro tour.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's like there's ams, there's opportunities, there's signings, there's all
of these different things that can also motivate you and
give you a fresh like a breath of fresh air.
And then you go back on the pro tour and
you have like more opportunities. But then for other people,
it's like they have to put their head down and
just grind it out.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, and I've already seen like five people that aren't
on the road anymore. I know that like used to
be full time.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, what's the deal with the stuff that's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Something's going on this week in Alabama and it's like
Lou Humphrey's thing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So not Alabama, Alabama's a city ofmobile But in Texas, Tyler,
Texas is the go throw event. I believe it's the
Cancer Playbook. But it's an unsanctioned event, which is a
big reason. I mean nothing against it. I see what
they're doing, but I just it doesn't go towards my
events played if I play an unsanctioned event. And so
(25:46):
the only reason that a lot of my friends are
playing is because of money. I hear there's a lot
of money added. And then the go throw camera people
who used to be GK pro who then re did
all their branding because they I think separated from DGPT,
they are doing like skins, matches and all these other things.
(26:08):
So I think for pros it's like sort of a
week off. But like, I don't know, there's no ratings.
I don't love the unsanctioned thing because it means that
like uh, like insurance you know, doesn't have to be
a part of it. But it's like that kind of
freaks me out, like what if someone gets hurt or
you know, like I don't I don't know everything about it,
so don't take my word for everything. But just like
(26:30):
that few aspects of it is it's kind of weird
for me, and I don't know if I truly love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We toured last year in the RV and this year
Paul was like, I'm just gonna fly in and out
of a lot of stuff. And I think back to
like you were having hot Cocoa challenges, like Hot Cocoa combos,
and then they were doing Beast challenges back in the day,
like during those off weeks where like you kind of
want to stay in the area, you don't really want
to go home, but you don't want to just be
(26:56):
like doing nothing. Yeah, so I'm hoping people will do that. Christine, Like,
first of all, congrats because you got a promotion. Tell
us by your promotion, and then what is going on
with the discoverer toy, Like what's the tea?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
What can we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
What can we know?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
So my promotion was from I was an executive administrator,
but I've always helped operations a lot, so we just
kind of took that and ran with it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So Phil delone A left.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
To go to the PGA, and he was our assistant
tour director, so we kind of restructured our operations and
I kind of like absorbed some of his role and
so that's where I guess the promotion kind of came from.
So now I'm the director of Administration and tour operations.
So the operations part now became officially part of my title.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But my job isn't really changing.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Like I absorbed some extra responsibilities from what Phil was doing,
but I'm still doing the same thing. It's not like,
you know, I got a whole new task or responsibility
lists or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
But I'm excited. I'm excited because I can now.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Not that I couldn't before, but just because I'm more
officially part of operations, I feel like I can be
more of an FPO advocate so when we're having like
internal like conversations, I can voice my opinion a little
bit more towards operations and FPO growth or anything FPO
related really. So I haven't really done much with that yet,
(28:31):
just because everything's a little fresh, but I'm excited to
kind of dive deeper into that FPO role.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
How much of those conversations are you involved in, and
then what's your takes on like the changes for this
year and the way that it's kind of more breaks.
You know, we're going to Washington and then there's a
week off and then we're in Oregon for the Portland stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, I think generally over the last few years.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
We've been gradually trying to dial the schedule back because
you know, we kind of.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Like came in full four.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We had the Silver Series back in the day, and
then the Elite Series, and you.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Know, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
They were supposed to be separate, but the you know,
Elite Series players ended up playing on the Silver Series
and it became this mess basically of you know, players
playing all the events instead of just the elite events.
So we kind of nip that in the bud and
switched to now Q Series, which doesn't really benefit the
elite tor card holders.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
The TOH holders play the Elite events.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
So, like I said, we're kind of dialing back I
think a little more, which I think is good for
everyone with the.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Schedule dialing back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You also asked about like what the process is like
with like the schedule being what it is, and I
wanted to touch on the bid process, so like just
kind of similar to events that want to bid for majors,
it's similar, Like we have.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
A bid process.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
So, yeah, events put their bid in, we assess those bids. However,
many months you know, before the off season and We're
getting better at this, So that's one thing that I'm
happy with is just like we're getting more lead time.
So now this year we're like putting out our bid
process a lot more fast, a lot quicker than in
the past, and so we're working on like locking in
(30:17):
the twenty twenty six schedule faster, and.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
We're just getting everything done more faster basically. So, yes,
I am.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Involved in those conversations, but like most of the influence
just comes from who's putting in the bids and what
makes the most sense in terms of like geographic location
and how the tour wants to you know, where the
loop makes sense basically, and then how do we work
in majors with that because majors are announced before our
events basically. So yeah, that's kind of how the conversations
(30:48):
go right now.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Does it make your job easier that there's breaks in
between events or does it make it more challenging because
you kind of have to figure out where everyone's going
to go.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I think there's give and take.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
I think for people that work remotely, there's probably it's
nice to have a break because I mean, when the
event's going on, everyone on our team is go, go go.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
It's probably a little bit.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Easier for our operations guys that live on the road,
the people that are actually traveling event to event, it's
probably it's nice for them to be able to take
a break, and it's not really harder for us. It's
not harder for me to have to find, you know,
somewhere for them to go or anything like that. I
just feel like it's nice for them to be able
to take a breather.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So, uh, there was one thing I wanted to talk
to you guys about as we kind of close out
our first episode back. Nate Heinold did an am on
Reddit Bless his Heart. The biggest thing that came out
of that was people are talking about the fact that
he is so heavily involved in the Disc Golf Pro
Tour and the PDGA in diskcraft and has his own
store and he's running I think three disc Golf pro
(31:52):
Tours and two majors Ledstone, Supreme Flight Open, Dglow, oh yeah, three,
and then he's doing champions Cup and he's doing Worlds
or no, he did Worlds last year. He did an
interview with Ultie World and I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like stoked about it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I listened to it, and I felt like it was
less of an interview and it was more of like
interrogation and interrogation. Yeah, Like they were like, how is
Ledgstone in twenty twenty five and He's like, like, what
can we be excited about? And he was like, oh, well,
you know, we have this and that, and then they
would just move on to the next topic without any
(32:28):
follow up or any conversation. It felt really strange, and so, yes,
he's well connected, but disc golf is just at a
point where this is who's doing it right, So this
is who people are going to continue to hire to
run their events. People have a problem with the fact
that he's getting so many events and getting so many
opportunities to run events.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
And it became this conversation.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Of not just him, but like, why is someone in
that position always winning bids and being given events? And
are we moving towards an era where the Discolf Pro
Tour only wants three or four different people running all
of the event or the PDGA only wants three or
four different people running all the majors. Because if you
peel it back a little bit, it can make sense
(33:13):
it's less factors that could go wrong, you know, more
consistency with the same people. They take into consideration all
of the people and.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
All of the bids.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And there has been rumor or maybe it was confirmed
that like some of the bids were not great, and
it's like he comes in, He's like, I want to
host Worlds here, I have a team, I have all
this stuff. Yeah, okay, like that was a really good bid,
like bid offer, like you win, congrats. And I just
think people they don't like him for whatever reason, and
(33:44):
whenever there's a reason to not like him even more
they jump on it.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But he's done so many good things.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
How do you guys feel about this situation? But mostly
what's your take on the growth of the professional venues
and like what's.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Going on with that?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I want to start, Christine, I have a lot
to say, go for it. So when it comes to
Nate heinold. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people.
I don't know a lot of people who are like
gung ho for him unless they are Discraft members sponsored
by Ledgecraft ledge Craft, Oh my gosh. And there have
(34:22):
been some situations where he has like come on the
course and hasn't been very good about like taking a
player aside and being like, hey, I need to talk
to you about the situation, Like he made it like
a huge deal and was in front of all these
other people and made this person feel really stupid and
like I've had I've heard a lot of those experiences
(34:43):
about personally. He he I hear, But I also have
experienced many of the events that I have played of
Nates their top tier. He gets the fundraising, the money,
the volunteers to back him. Like you said, the crew
that he has and brings is huge, and I think
(35:05):
when it comes to him, he'll take on anything because
he knows he can do it well and he can
do it. The only thing is, like with other tds
other people, I think they get so gassed out they
can't take opinions very well, so they're like, you know what,
I'll never do it again. So I think what I
do appreciate about Nate, even if he isn't my favorite
(35:28):
person in the world. I appreciate how he runs things.
It's professional. I appreciate the money involved. As a professional
disc golfer, obviously we want to go to the places
with the most amount of money and obviously the most
amount of volunteers. I want to be able to play
a hole and not worry about where my disc is.
Like that's amazing. Like this past weekend at Supreme Flight Open,
(35:49):
I did not expect to have a spot around almost
all those holes. No, I was expecting us to be
looking on all of them, and all of a sudden,
the first round, I was stoked. So it's tough because
I do I've heard the conflict of interest. I have
thought it about it myself, like it's kind of weird.
You have all your hands and all these things, but
it's tough when he does them so well.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, I think one thing I forgot to say was
and this is something I thought about, like as I
was listening to a.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Lot of the podcasts that were.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Explaining people's reactions to it, was like, he's not the
only one if you think about it, like Doug yerkis
ran an incredible dynamic disks Open and glass Blown Open
for a long, long, long long time, and now he
is the president of the PDHA, or he's like the
main guy.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't know what we call it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I should know that. Please don't fire me. I really
enjoy being on this podcast. But anyways, then Yucy Maresma
runs an amazing European Open for a long time, ran
a good tournament like that was another one, but his
sites were set on European Open. Jeff Spring ran an
incredible event, had an amazing team in Vermont and it's
insane how good that turned was and how professional those
(37:01):
venues are, and they grew, they invested money into the
pro shop, the experience on site amazing, and he set
his sights on the disc Golf Pro Tour in becoming
a part of that. Jonathan Poole is another one, like
I've I could keep going.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
There's so many.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Sean Jack ran an.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Amazing like San Francisco Open or is that the name
estha I only played it once? Yep, and incredibly event,
great added cash, really well done.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And it's like he's not.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
The only one who is capable. He's just the only
one who hasn't committed to one lane.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Everyone else is spoken for.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Shawn Jack works for the Discolf Pro Tour now, Jeff
Spring Discolf Pro Tour.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Doug yorkis PDGA, And it's this.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Amazing theory and I get how it's so supported if
you only know a very short amount of history and
disc golf. But I guess I wanted to add that too,
because that context is important.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, the only thing that I would add is as
a business woman, I can respect the business.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Man that he is.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Because, like, sure, I understand the conflict of interest.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I don't know, I've never heard of like him being
him treating people not well. I've never heard like people
talking bad about him, So that could be a different story.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But in terms of him running all.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
These events and potentially being conflict of interest, I think
he's just being an opportunist and he's seeing the opportunities
where these pockets of disc golf need to be helped,
and he has the money and the resources to help them,
so he's doing it. And so then sure it's causing
a conflict of interest, But like ConA said, he's very professional.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
He runs really good events.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
He makes sure that all of his people are taken
care of, every spectator, of VIP players, anyone who's coming through.
And you know, Hannah and I have worked with him
when the Party podcast was with lutch Shone.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
He was always professional with us, very quick correspondence.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, fire, just kidding rude again, I'm just doing.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
But anyways, just the point is, you know, he's professional
to work with. You know, the other tds, nothing against them,
but a lot of other tds that have events, big events,
they have a full time job and then they're a TD. Yeah,
Nate's job is to be a TD, so of course
he's gonna do it well.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
He was very he was on record on the Ulti
World podcast at his interview was very insightful. He did
a really good job, I think, and explained a lot.
It was kind of like we need to put him
on a panel of like future and upcoming and aspiring
tds because he has so much knowledge and he's learned
(39:47):
a lot of things the hard way, and he's rubbed
a lot of people the wrong way in doing that.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
He did say like.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
He doesn't really profit off of being a TD, and
I think that's why a lot of people, like you
said Khnor, are just kind of of like, well, I'm done,
Like why would I do this again?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Because it takes.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
A long time for you to profit and you have
to be very strategic about your venue. Do you own
the venue, are you in good relations with person? Can
you charge for parking? Does that benefit you? How much
of that benefit like or how much of that profit
are you going to put into the experience of your tournament.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
What does that benefit you? So I think I can't
really speak on that.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I've never run a tournament.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I am talking away out of pocket if we go
any further in that direction, couldn't I just wanted to
kind of give context to the situation.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
That I agree.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I think he is being an opportunist.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
There is a lot of opportunity right now because everyone
kind of just that would be able to participate gets
married to something else and then stays in that lane.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I don't know I heard this.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
They kind of suggested, like, wouldn't it be cool if
let's say us three lived in the same spot because
you finally listened to me and moved to Jacksonville Beach
and we just all lived together on the beach and
we run tournaments, and you and I and Christine are like, oh,
let's run a US Women's Well, we have the tournament,
we have the courses, but we don't have the team.
(41:16):
So then we can write a letter to the PDGA
and say we would like to run a tournament here,
but we like, we have great courses, and I think
that you could really do something here, but.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We we don't know what to do. We don't know
how to get started.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
There was a suggestion that people who have some like
little lumps of clay could write in and the potters
could come out and kind of be like, oh, you
have a great venue, but let's rework.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
It a little bit, or oh.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In my experience, this might be better for parking instead
of a tournament central, or let's get the city involved.
Here's the proposal that I've done before, and this is
all numbers and so it kind of becomes like calling
in the Avengers being like, hey, can you send iron
man to my local course to check out?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
So it's like they had that.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
That's like something that was pitched, but I think that's
kind of what happens now. But it's if you're already connected,
if you're already networked in the sport, then you can
kind of talk to someone who knows someone who can
talk to a UC, bring a UC out or Jeff
Spring is always going and like checking things out, Like
didn't he just do that a few years ago with
(42:35):
you Christine to go look at the Portland golf course.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Actually I don't remember how that started.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
That was a couple of years ago, I think, But
the pro tour runs the Portland Open, so I feel
like that one's a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Like Brian Cole's.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Our VP of operations and he works with the local
team because he's from Portland, so that's like a little
bit different of an example. But basically, if Portland wasn't
ran by disc Golf, if it was you know, its
own loc event, then yes, I think the Local Organizing
Committee the LC would have asked.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Hey, like what kind of updates do you want to
make to this course?
Speaker 6 (43:12):
You know, maybe that's something that Jeff would have said
previously after an event and we got feedback from players
or something like that, then we're like, okay, hey, how
can we improve this kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So oh no, I think that's a great idea. I
mean I feel like, like, uh, for example, like even
making a YouTube video on like how you can have
the best you know, tournament experience. Like I feel like
freakin' h DGPT needs to make a video on how
to do live scoring. I've talked to way too many
volunteers over the years and this year who were like, oh,
(43:46):
they gave this to me and they said good luck,
And I'm like that's just not cool. Like I feel
like you need some training or like a little a
little hey, here's a little video and this is how
you do it. And then there's like a little tech
and it's like ooh, ooh wrong, ooh, yes, that's how
you do it. And then I don't have to have
(44:07):
someone coming up to me in the middle of my
round when I'm trying to focus and they're like, with
that was that twenty two feet or with that twenty
five feet? And I'm like, you know that one time,
do your best, thank you, so thank you so much
for being out here, but do your best. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, it was one time.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
They're just so helpful to do that.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
And they're stress it out. They're like, yeah, my caddie
told me that he literally was he accidentally did something
wrong and he started crying because he did not know
what to do and no one told him.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
That is stressful.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Imagine being a caddy slash fanboy and like you're like
it was so responsible. This is like such a responsible
task and you feel like you don't know what to do.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
It's just a YouTube video of a Christine Jennings telling
people how to do it.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It sounds good.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
We're doing this an infomercial.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yes, yes, Oh my gosh, yes, so cheesy.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
I'll talk to DGPT about it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That's amazing, Yeah, we need to do that. Well cool, Yeah,
I think that's kind of what happened with uh. The
Lynchburg event was like, uh, Paul obviously had a lot
of influence in designing the courses because he we lived
there and when COVID shot everything down, the only thing
that they really could work on was parks that were
still open, which was like, there's a lot of mountain biking,
(45:30):
there's a lot of hiking trails, and there was only
a few disc golf courses. So one of the guys
was a disc golfer started building that relationship of Hey,
I know you don't have anything going on because your
tour got shut down. Do you want to come redesign
a course that we have because we've kind of seen
the layout it's not that great, And then that evolved
into we have this plot of land that we could
(45:50):
turn into new London disc golf, do you want to
come see it, which evolved into I don't want to
run a tournament, but I designed this course here and
there is club but they just don't know what to do,
and because he was networked, pitched it to hein Old
and then a golf course.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
The golf course reached out to Paul.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
And was he was connected with the people who owned
it and so they were like, we want to do that,
Like that's great. So Ivy Hill got involved, and then
the city of Lynchburg got involved because Ivy Hill people
were super connected and it's just snowballed.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
But yeah, I think it needs to.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Be more accessible hopefully, but I yeah, I'm not against
that idea either, especially for us women's Like can we
just please keep having this conversation about it? But anyways, guys,
our first episode is done and it was only an
hour long after we said it would be thirty minutes.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
It's okay, I'm ready for bed because I already have
my pjs. H.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Well, thank you guys so much for listening.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
I have an interview lined up with Onikin because she's
staying in my house, so I'm gonna chat with her
just about her off season and just how it was,
how it is getting back into the tour from her perspective,
what her schedule is.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Going to be looking like, her takes on some things
going on in.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Disc golf, and then we are going to head over
to the Waco Charity Open and we're going to get
more disc golf in the second one.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Already. Oh we're razy. Well, thank you guys so much
for parting with us. We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Bye bye.
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Party people? Welcome back to the podcast. I'm Hannah McBeth, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Christine Jennings, I'm ConA Montgomery.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And today we are bringing back the Party podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Basically, what happened, and I mean basically was we all
started out on this adventure and then we got hit
by some pretty big things. I had a child and
was trying to manage having a child on tour, and
then I had a bunch of health problems.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Christine, what's been what happened to you?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Basically same except I don't have a child.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
I've just been hit with health problems for like the
last handful of years, and.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I feel like they're actually getting worse. So hopefully we
figure that out.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
But I've just been like in my own shell for
the last few months, just trying to figure it out and.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
You know, being quiet about it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
ConA, how have you been to it?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? You know, I've been dealing with some health stuff too.
You know, my gall bladder's all missed up, my liver's
not great. You know, it's just it's so fun.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So basically, girl, we're changing this podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We're just gonna do like get together every week and
discuss how all of our ailments are so without further into.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Swoosh No.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So we started the Party podcast to just cover fpo
in disc golf, and we still want to do that,
but it just became a huge task to pay attention
to everything that was happening week in and week out
on tour, watch all the live coverage, pay attention to
the headlines, which ninety percent of the time were annoying
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and ridiculous, and then try to talk about the pro tour,
get together, you know, find places to do, have Wi Fi.
And then everything kind of shut down for the off
season and we all kind of just needed to take
a break, so we kind of abandoned all of you.
But we're back and we have the intention to keep
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going and started up again. I don't know how long
the podcast will go. I think we're gonna aim for
like thirty to forty minutes per Christine's request. And also
that's just like I feel like a normal amount of time, Like.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Listen, it's seven thirty and I'm in my pajamas.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm just covering it up.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
With something that's never changed.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But I did want to say thank you so much
to all of you who have reached out and asked
where we are. We kind of did like the Hannah
When episode, and then we were like, well that was it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We peaked and we just got to get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We took ConA on and we were like, yeah, ConA,
come join our show, and then we just kind of
left her to do stuff on her own. So I
guess if you had to like pick a few updates
to share, like maybe one or two, I can start,
please do.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So I after I.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Had Pablo, I had like a ton of health issues.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
My thyroid like gave up on me and pretty much
like moved away to California to be an actor. And
then my body and my skin just like got really
dried out, and I had like X one like all
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And I'm like, are you I'm like, why are you
doing this?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Like I'm just still laughing about California.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So good.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So then I my hair was like falling out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was like overly emotional about certain things and I
just wasn't myself and most people would be like, well,
you just had a baby, so your postpartum and I
accepted that and I moved on and then I went
on the road, and every Sunday it was packing everything
that we own into a box and on Monday unpacking
it in a new place and deciding what your new
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version of normal was going to be. And for me,
that was keeping me in this constant state of like
fight or flight, Like I was constantly stimulated in some
kind of way, and I didn't notice it because your
body is very adaptable, and I think it wasn't as
dramatic as I make it sound all the time, but
it was a lot of effort. It's constant showing up
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for things, and if you don't, stuff falls through the cracks,
and when you have a baby, you can't allow a
lot of stuff to fall through the cracks. So I thought, okay, well,
maybe it's just that I've been traveling. And then I
stopped traveling and I went home, and I thought, maybe, okay,
it's because I was breastfeeding Pablo. So we stopped that
and he turned one years old and I was still
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having like the same symptoms that I had when he
was three months old. So I went to the doctor
and established care with a physician, and they sent me
to someone to have testing done on my thyroid. They
looked at it, and they saw that I had two
really big nodes. So I actually took myself off of
so media in January because I was going to have
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them checked for thyroid cancer and I could not book
an appointment right away. And it kind of reminded me
of like, this is like what discolfirst deal with, because
it was November when I made my appointment and like
started getting all of my testing done but then didn't get.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Seen until January.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I got my results like days before the Supreme Flight open,
and I've been off social media for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It's been nice. We talked about that later.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I am good. I do not have anything. I have
tumors on my thyroid, but as of right now they're.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Benign, Praise the Lord.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I'm working with a woman who is like checking
me and she's got my system like it's a case,
and she's a detective, like she's got my health like
it's a case. Since she's a detective, she's going through
like my family history, dramatic experiences and all that stuff.
And this is the long winded way of saying, like
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that's what I've been dealing with. It's a lot of
looking in the mirror feeling a certain way and just
being like, why is this happening to me?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like, I eat healthy, I have an active lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I feel like I'm a.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Very normal person, and I just feel awful.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm so tired.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I had extremely tiredness my skin. My hair was falling
out like crazy. Thank god I have such thick hair
because you can't really notice, but like, obviously we notice.
I was bloating over the most random things. I was
like overly emotional. Like I said, it was like I
went to Disney and I walked by a little girl
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with a Mawana T shirt and I started crying.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh, like why am I crying like that? So what's happening?
I know, like you could.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Explain it away, but it's not really that normal to
have that reaction for me.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I signed up for like a bunch of tournaments
this winter.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I haven't been able to play any of them. So
I do appreciate people who have asked where I was.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Or where I am and how I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think ConA and obviously Christine, but ConA, you were
the only person who really like from the discolf world
reached out to me and was like, how are you
and you didn't even know that any of this was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Girl. I was on your on your butt, yeah, how
are you? And then as soon as you told me
that you were getting like your U biopsy, I was like, Hannah,
how are Hannah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Hannah, So did you get your results yet? Did you
get them yet? Yeah? Are you okay? Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It was so amazing to have someone who like went
through the same testing as me to just be like,
I know, like it sucks, it doesn't make sense, it's
not fun, it's it's oh the weirdest feeling.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And I was just like you see me.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I felt so like seen and known and conas so
Mama baar about it too. She's like, yes, I don't know, ConA,
You're so good with your words when somebody's struggling.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It'd be great.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I can go.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'll piggyback on the thyroid situation.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Mine's not as dramatic as ConA and Hannah's situation.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
But basically the end of last year, I.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Got my hormones tested and I had low thyroid hormone.
So I've been trying to like fix that. The doctor
gave me some medication for it, and I don't feel different.
There's like a couple symptoms that have gotten better, but
like overall, I have very similar symptoms as Hannah does,
and it's not it's not getting any better. So I'm
also working with someone similar to Hannah. It's not the
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same person, but like basically same type of medicine, and
so Hannah and I are actually like on the same
timeline of like getting our test results.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
So I'm kind of excited for that.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
But yeah, basically I'm trying to work through that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
And I think because I've been traveling for so long,
like since I started playing disc golf professionally and traveling
and then I got the job with the disc Off
Pro Tour and traveled, I've just been like go, go go,
And on top of that, I love working so like
outside of my normal job, you know, I always take
on other ventures for myself, and so I think it
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was just like I was piling it on on top
of my health issues. So since you know, basically last year,
I've kind of been a hermit crab, staying at my house,
you know, trying not to travel, taking care of just
like putting myself into routine to like get myself out
of that fight.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Or flight mode with traveling all the time. But like
I said, it hasn't been helping.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
So I think if anything, it's like I've had time
to chill and you know, time to reflect on what
I can do to get better and.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Hopefully this next journey will help me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Mmm.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It finds you though, because I've been off social media
and I went on last night for like the first time,
and I was like, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It was so much.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Information at once, and I was like, this is overwhelming me.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's exhausting. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And it used to not be that, like correct me
if I'm wrong, But back in the day, it used
to be like I took this picture. Here's how I'm doing,
you know what I mean. Like it would be like, oh,
I'm at this tournament. Here's a picture of the fountain.
I'm at Fountain Hills. He he good for me, never
been here before or whatever, And it was like picture
with a little caption and you were just sharing what
you had going on.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And then that evolved into Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm sharing what I have going on, but I'm going
to doctor it so it looks way better.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Than it actually was.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And then that turned into Okay, I'm sharing what's going
on and this is how I am, and I'm going
to doctor me so that you constantly think that I'm
just like on my A game. And then that turned
into yeah, I read an article or I had an
experience at a discolf tournament, or I saw a video
once and here's how I felt about it, and in
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this essay I will and you're just like, cause like,
can you imagine I said this to Paul today, Like
I was scrolling and I saw a shirtless pick of
someone who was just like, oh, I just finished at the.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Gym, Like whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just like finishing a workout and somebody that you're friends
with just comes up to you with their shirt off
and they're just like, hey, just finished the workout.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
What do you think I help? I'm just like overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I just want to know how you are and if
it's serious, let's talk about it in person. But like otherwise,
just so many pictures of your of you like and
the cool things that you're doing.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
ConA, what generation are you? Technically You're not a millennial.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Eighteen ninety eight, No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
You're in between millennials gen z no, what's the one
in between gen Z.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She's not Jenny, are you jen X?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's sad.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I think it's the one in between millennial and Z.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
My point was, Hannah and I are old, so we're millennials,
and ConA is a generation behind us, so she's still
a little hick.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You can tell us what's the slang?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
What's slang? Like I know slang in.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, col that you have to give us your update.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, so you guys are dealing with thyroid problems, and honestly,
my life has been great without when oh, you know,
when I had the thyroid stuff, it was like or
when I had my thyroid, I was going through all
kinds of like weight changes and mood swings and all
this random stuff happening with my body. And ever since
getting it removed and getting it on like a solid medication,
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my energy has never been better. I can play a
practice round and I don't feel like I have to
nap afterwards, and that used to be like a go
to for me. Yeah, it's huge, that's so goomb But
like other yeah, other than like that, my gallbladder is
just confusing because like we've been eating really healthy recently,
like really clean, but like, I still have a lot
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of pain every day. So I'm going back home and
getting a test done to see if the output that
my gallbladder is doing is enough, because like they're thinking
my gallbladder's squeezing, and then it's not quite squeezing enough
and there's just like, U not sludge because I don't
have sludge. We figured that out, which is good. It's
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good that's not there. Yeah, but it's really got to
go home get some more tests done. But I'm really
tired of seeing doctors. I was gonna go home and
get surgery on my tear ducks to help my tears,
but I opted out of it because it's like an
optional surgery. I don't really feel like going back under anesthesia,
and I'd rather just deal with having weepy eyes. Honest,
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what is that? It was really annoying at first, but
so the radioactive iodine I took to get rid of
all my cancer killed my salvary glands and it dried
my tear ducks out completely. So yeah, no cancer, but
those two things are not fun.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah wow, But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Other than that, I feel good. I mean, Colt and
I have been eating so clean since getting back on
the road, Like I can see my jaw line and
my cheeks again, like no, not like puffy in my face,
which like during off season, I feel like I was
just like so puffy and like weird. But now that
we're eating a lot cleaner, I feel a lot cleaner.
And now it's just like getting back to getting into
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the gym and getting back into tour life. Man, it's
been it's been.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Roughen Why has it been rough?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I guess it's been rough in the sense of like
getting back into waking up at six am to make
breakfast and making sure I wait at least thirty minutes
after taking my medication in the morning to eat because
otherwise my absorption isn't good, or being on the you
know course again and like I had a hole uh
with on I'm played with anikin stan H or Stine whatever,
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and she's awesome, love her, And I threw this shot
and it was like a bomb, but I like was like, man,
it's probably o' be like kind of like angry, and
she like walks up to me and she's like, girl,
it's not over till it's over. And we got up
there and it was safe. So it's like getting back
into the mentality of like I don't need to get
upset before I actually see what's going on. And just
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like playing golf again, like I'm trying to throw huge
shots and I really just need to like Chip Chip
Pari chip Birdie, but instead I'm like, I can throw far,
but I don't need to. So it's like just getting
back into that mental aspect of disc golf again that
I haven't had to experience for a hot minute.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Did you feel like last year it was a little
bit easier to get into it because it was a.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
New venue and there was a lot more excitement about it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, for me, it was the first year playing, so
it was like I was new and excited. But I
think because it was my first time there, then that
aspect of like playing golf didn't really come to my brain.
Oh oh yeah, you know, new cores, how cool. I
actually really enjoyed the course. So shout out Pau macbeth
or you know, I know he had something to do
with it, but it was it Mike Barnett who did
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a lot of the design.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, yes, and then Paul lengthened some holes and they
changed some things up.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But yes, okay, I truly enjoyed the women's layout more
than I think a lot of people did. I heard
a lot of complaining, and I was like, I think
this is a great course for.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Fpu uh huh.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I agree. I heard a lot of good things. Madison
and Erica did the Jemas coverage as usual, the two
hot geese, and they kept saying that they loved it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But it might be one of those things where.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You're like, I better than Elvis.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's hard because you have to like hit your lines
right away.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I was gonna ask, like when Cona's like, oh, I
love it, and then people are saying maybe complaining about it,
I was gonna ask, do you think it's a distance
thing because Conna throws far?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But then when you mentioned that Madison and Erica.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Said that they loved it, then that's not the case, Like,
that's not the trend of like, oh far through.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I didn't think you really needed to throw far on
this course. Yes, like you didn't need to, Then that's
my issue. I didn't need to.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's a lot of likes.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's just a disc golf course, period.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's such a good disc golf course because you have
to throw and you have.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
To know what your disc is gonna do, and it
has to do things other than just like go far
and hies her out.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I think a lot of people like, we love
LVC the courses, but I think the biggest difference and
the biggest thing that I heard from everyone was it
was nice to get into warm weather to start the season.
Like lvc's cool, but we were freezing cheeks at the
beginning of the season, where like it was so nice
to be in Florida and just be and be in
short sleeve in like T shirt.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh huh, yeah, yeah, Well we did have that tournament.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We could talk about it. Ella Hanson ended up taking
it down.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
She went into a playoff against Holland Hanley and Evely
and a Solinin. I watched some of the live coverage.
Pablo loves disc golf, so it's really fun because we
can't watch it in person.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He's way too loud.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He'll go wow, whoa and then he'll clap and he'll
go wow, it's so funny how fun it is. But
it's hard when it's a tournament because it's like, okay,
we have to be serious, and like people are trying
to pay attention. We were watching FPO and I got to
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see Holland looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
She has so much power off the TV, but.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It is really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
She carried the first two days, went into the third
day and the lead, and it was really cool to
see how in shape she is and how she allowed
it this year to translate into her disc golf game,
because I think that's something that people struggle with from
time to time, is now they have all of this
power and they don't have all of the control.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We also saw Ela Hanson out there.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
She was great, curious to know how she spent her
off season because she is in Oregon and it's not
really like go throw weather, so Anakin is actually staying
with me. For her, it was tricky and for a
lot of the other girls who come from the colder climates,
it was tricky because you have to really know your
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discs on a course like this, and she hasn't been
throwinge She's just been throwing into a net. So for
Ella to come in, I mean, that's amazing. And then
Evelino is up there as well. Evelina is funny. She's
this interesting player where she acts like she doesn't care,
but she obviously cares a lot, and you kind of
see her and she like kind of makes jokes and
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like laughs things off and is like always with like
the facial expression she's always emoting.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
She practiced in preparation for this. I honestly feel like
sometimes that helps when you go in a little unprepared
because you have zero expectations.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I was looking at the field, like the top ten,
and it's always That's like one thing I love about
FPO is there's always like different names that you see.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Like once we start getting into the groove of like
mid season, I feel like then we kind of start
seeing a pattern of Okay, this person's been on fire
for the last few events, so we start seeing them
on the podium consistently.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And things like that.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
But just like the spread of the first ten or
the top ten FPO players of this event is crazy,
Like you mentioned the top three, Macy Vella Diaz, like
she just had a baby last year, she came back
and took four, she took fifth, but like she was
up there with the lead card.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know, we have Rebecca Cox, Cadence.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Birds just like a mix of names that are so
exciting to me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, but then there's people like like cat Merch. Cat
Merch showed up to Florida, I think, like Legit two
weeks before Supreme Flight Open, like she had she had
six rounds, six or seven rounds in on that course
before the actual event, so she showed up for like
good weather for that like extra week and then like
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I played a practice round with her like on her
birthday day after her birthday, and she just looked dialed,
And I just think, like, you know, it's it's cool
when you can show up to an event, you can
practice that much. And I think a lot of people
like may See maybe a Haley King, have some and
vantage to only playing five or six events a season,
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because unlike people like me who are playing every single
week and you know, every single you know, your your
arm gets tired, you get a small injury, a finger injury,
but then you have to go play the next week.
I think those people who aren't playing as often, although
they're not on the road as much, and although maybe
their sponsors don't love that, I think they just have
that advantage of just having a fresh body.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I always wonder if that's really a big conversation that
people are having the longer we do this, because it
almost feels like ten years.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Ago the tour was a lot different. It was really
just like a group of people who.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Were like, Hey, these are all the A tours we
go to, so I guess we'll just keep doing that.
And then sometimes you would have these honeypot tournaments where
you could go there would be a big cash added
like Ledgstone was that for Katrina Allen.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But for the most part, there was.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like fifteen to twenty tournaments a year that all of
the top touring pros would go to, and it was
like an unspoken tour. And then you have the National
Tour spread out throughout the season, and then the majors,
which were like always changing, and it was just kind
of chaotic.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Back then, they had so much time off.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I was in college and Paul would like come visit
me all the time, and he'd be like, yeah, I
have two weeks off, Like I'll just come hang out
with your disc golf team and like hang out, and
he would just fly in and out, and then he'd
be like, yeah, I gotta go to Europe for two
weeks can I leave my RV here or like whatever,
and then I'll just come back. And then I got
to go to Pennsylvania for Worlds, but I have like
a week off in between, and I'm like, we leave
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for Europe and when we come back in four days,
it's Ledgstone and it's a four day tournament. If you
come out and you are like, I'm gonna go to
the second half of the season, your sponsor's like pissed,
like what I don't like.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I think it depends on your sponsorship, because like I have,
you know, I have a I have a smaller amount
of events that I have to play with Inova than
I did with Dynamic, which is awesome. So it's like,
I think it depends on who you're with. I think
the sponsor might be like, hey, you know, maybe I'd
prefer you doing more clinics rather than playing all these events.
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But also I feel like we have this pressure on
us to play, especially all the dgpts, because we're like,
we want to make the finale, like we want to
get the points. We want these awards because like there's
incentives there if you get Player of the Year by
DGPT that you get a bonus or something from like
your sponsor, Like there's all these little incentives now, but
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I think it's almost getting unreasonable to play all the events,
especially for some of these players who don't have sponsors anymore,
because of how expensive everything is. Like for men to
play an event, it's like three hundred and fifty dollars.
I'm sorry. When I started playing disc golf, it was
like like one hundred. We were chilling, yes, And now
(23:53):
it's like, all of a sudden, sponsors are having to
put out what five thousand dollars at least if you
want to play all of the DGPT events, Like, I
think we're gonna have to find a little in between
here in the future to make it viable or it's
just not gonna be a thing.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But also it's a gamble, I think, like you kind
of show up every week and you're like betting on
yourself because some people, I've had this conversation before where
I'm like, why don't you just play less events? Not
that bluntly, but I've suggested it to some people who
like struggle. You know, if you're not cashing and then
you take some time off and you figure it out
and you come back and you start cashing again.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like that's a good thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But they're like, yeah, but I'm one good round away
from making it happen.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So sometimes it's like a.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Bubble and when you come out of it, you're like, Oh,
I needed this zoomed out perspective, Like I need to
just see it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Like Discolve is not just the pro tour.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's like there's ams, there's opportunities, there's signings, there's all
of these different things that can also motivate you and
give you a fresh like a breath of fresh air.
And then you go back on the pro tour and
you have like more opportunities. But then for other people,
it's like they have to put their head down and
just grind it out.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, and I've already seen like five people that aren't
on the road anymore. I know that like used to
be full time.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, what's the deal with the stuff that's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Something's going on this week in Alabama and it's like
Lou Humphrey's thing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So not Alabama, Alabama's a city ofmobile But in Texas, Tyler,
Texas is the go throw event. I believe it's the
Cancer Playbook. But it's an unsanctioned event, which is a
big reason. I mean nothing against it. I see what
they're doing, but I just it doesn't go towards my
events played if I play an unsanctioned event. And so
(25:46):
the only reason that a lot of my friends are
playing is because of money. I hear there's a lot
of money added. And then the go throw camera people
who used to be GK pro who then re did
all their branding because they I think separated from DGPT,
they are doing like skins, matches and all these other things.
(26:08):
So I think for pros it's like sort of a
week off. But like, I don't know, there's no ratings.
I don't love the unsanctioned thing because it means that
like uh, like insurance you know, doesn't have to be
a part of it. But it's like that kind of
freaks me out, like what if someone gets hurt or
you know, like I don't I don't know everything about it,
so don't take my word for everything. But just like
(26:30):
that few aspects of it is it's kind of weird
for me, and I don't know if I truly love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We toured last year in the RV and this year
Paul was like, I'm just gonna fly in and out
of a lot of stuff. And I think back to
like you were having hot Cocoa challenges, like Hot Cocoa combos,
and then they were doing Beast challenges back in the day,
like during those off weeks where like you kind of
want to stay in the area, you don't really want
to go home, but you don't want to just be
(26:56):
like doing nothing. Yeah, so I'm hoping people will do that. Christine, Like,
first of all, congrats because you got a promotion. Tell
us by your promotion, and then what is going on
with the discoverer toy, Like what's the tea?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
What can we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
What can we know?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
So my promotion was from I was an executive administrator,
but I've always helped operations a lot, so we just
kind of took that and ran with it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So Phil delone A left.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
To go to the PGA, and he was our assistant
tour director, so we kind of restructured our operations and
I kind of like absorbed some of his role and
so that's where I guess the promotion kind of came from.
So now I'm the director of Administration and tour operations.
So the operations part now became officially part of my title.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But my job isn't really changing.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Like I absorbed some extra responsibilities from what Phil was doing,
but I'm still doing the same thing. It's not like,
you know, I got a whole new task or responsibility
lists or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
But I'm excited. I'm excited because I can now.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Not that I couldn't before, but just because I'm more
officially part of operations, I feel like I can be
more of an FPO advocate so when we're having like
internal like conversations, I can voice my opinion a little
bit more towards operations and FPO growth or anything FPO
related really. So I haven't really done much with that yet,
(28:31):
just because everything's a little fresh, but I'm excited to
kind of dive deeper into that FPO role.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
How much of those conversations are you involved in, and
then what's your takes on like the changes for this
year and the way that it's kind of more breaks.
You know, we're going to Washington and then there's a
week off and then we're in Oregon for the Portland stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, I think generally over the last few years.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
We've been gradually trying to dial the schedule back because
you know, we kind of.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Like came in full four.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We had the Silver Series back in the day, and
then the Elite Series, and you.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Know, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
They were supposed to be separate, but the you know,
Elite Series players ended up playing on the Silver Series
and it became this mess basically of you know, players
playing all the events instead of just the elite events.
So we kind of nip that in the bud and
switched to now Q Series, which doesn't really benefit the
elite tor card holders.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
The TOH holders play the Elite events.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
So, like I said, we're kind of dialing back I
think a little more, which I think is good for
everyone with the.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Schedule dialing back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You also asked about like what the process is like
with like the schedule being what it is, and I
wanted to touch on the bid process, so like just
kind of similar to events that want to bid for majors,
it's similar, Like we have.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
A bid process.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
So, yeah, events put their bid in, we assess those bids. However,
many months you know, before the off season and We're
getting better at this, So that's one thing that I'm
happy with is just like we're getting more lead time.
So now this year we're like putting out our bid
process a lot more fast, a lot quicker than in
the past, and so we're working on like locking in
(30:17):
the twenty twenty six schedule faster, and.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
We're just getting everything done more faster basically. So, yes,
I am.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Involved in those conversations, but like most of the influence
just comes from who's putting in the bids and what
makes the most sense in terms of like geographic location
and how the tour wants to you know, where the
loop makes sense basically, and then how do we work
in majors with that because majors are announced before our
events basically. So yeah, that's kind of how the conversations
(30:48):
go right now.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Does it make your job easier that there's breaks in
between events or does it make it more challenging because
you kind of have to figure out where everyone's going
to go.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I think there's give and take.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
I think for people that work remotely, there's probably it's
nice to have a break because I mean, when the
event's going on, everyone on our team is go, go go.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
It's probably a little bit.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Easier for our operations guys that live on the road,
the people that are actually traveling event to event, it's
probably it's nice for them to be able to take
a break, and it's not really harder for us. It's
not harder for me to have to find, you know,
somewhere for them to go or anything like that. I
just feel like it's nice for them to be able
to take a breather.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So, uh, there was one thing I wanted to talk
to you guys about as we kind of close out
our first episode back. Nate Heinold did an am on
Reddit Bless his Heart. The biggest thing that came out
of that was people are talking about the fact that
he is so heavily involved in the Disc Golf Pro
Tour and the PDGA in diskcraft and has his own
store and he's running I think three disc Golf pro
(31:52):
Tours and two majors Ledstone, Supreme Flight Open, Dglow, oh yeah, three,
and then he's doing champions Cup and he's doing Worlds
or no, he did Worlds last year. He did an
interview with Ultie World and I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like stoked about it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I listened to it, and I felt like it was
less of an interview and it was more of like
interrogation and interrogation. Yeah, Like they were like, how is
Ledgstone in twenty twenty five and He's like, like, what
can we be excited about? And he was like, oh, well,
you know, we have this and that, and then they
would just move on to the next topic without any
(32:28):
follow up or any conversation. It felt really strange, and so, yes,
he's well connected, but disc golf is just at a
point where this is who's doing it right, So this
is who people are going to continue to hire to
run their events. People have a problem with the fact
that he's getting so many events and getting so many
opportunities to run events.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
And it became this conversation.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Of not just him, but like, why is someone in
that position always winning bids and being given events? And
are we moving towards an era where the Discolf Pro
Tour only wants three or four different people running all
of the event or the PDGA only wants three or
four different people running all the majors. Because if you
peel it back a little bit, it can make sense
(33:13):
it's less factors that could go wrong, you know, more
consistency with the same people. They take into consideration all
of the people and.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
All of the bids.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And there has been rumor or maybe it was confirmed
that like some of the bids were not great, and
it's like he comes in, He's like, I want to
host Worlds here, I have a team, I have all
this stuff. Yeah, okay, like that was a really good bid,
like bid offer, like you win, congrats. And I just
think people they don't like him for whatever reason, and
(33:44):
whenever there's a reason to not like him even more
they jump on it.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But he's done so many good things.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
How do you guys feel about this situation? But mostly
what's your take on the growth of the professional venues
and like what's.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Going on with that?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I want to start, Christine, I have a lot
to say, go for it. So when it comes to
Nate heinold. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people.
I don't know a lot of people who are like
gung ho for him unless they are Discraft members sponsored
by Ledgecraft ledge Craft, Oh my gosh. And there have
(34:22):
been some situations where he has like come on the
course and hasn't been very good about like taking a
player aside and being like, hey, I need to talk
to you about the situation, Like he made it like
a huge deal and was in front of all these
other people and made this person feel really stupid and
like I've had I've heard a lot of those experiences
(34:43):
about personally. He he I hear, But I also have
experienced many of the events that I have played of
Nates their top tier. He gets the fundraising, the money,
the volunteers to back him. Like you said, the crew
that he has and brings is huge, and I think
(35:05):
when it comes to him, he'll take on anything because
he knows he can do it well and he can
do it. The only thing is, like with other tds
other people, I think they get so gassed out they
can't take opinions very well, so they're like, you know what,
I'll never do it again. So I think what I
do appreciate about Nate, even if he isn't my favorite
(35:28):
person in the world. I appreciate how he runs things.
It's professional. I appreciate the money involved. As a professional
disc golfer, obviously we want to go to the places
with the most amount of money and obviously the most
amount of volunteers. I want to be able to play
a hole and not worry about where my disc is.
Like that's amazing. Like this past weekend at Supreme Flight Open,
(35:49):
I did not expect to have a spot around almost
all those holes. No, I was expecting us to be
looking on all of them, and all of a sudden,
the first round, I was stoked. So it's tough because
I do I've heard the conflict of interest. I have
thought it about it myself, like it's kind of weird.
You have all your hands and all these things, but
it's tough when he does them so well.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, I think one thing I forgot to say was
and this is something I thought about, like as I
was listening to a.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Lot of the podcasts that were.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Explaining people's reactions to it, was like, he's not the
only one if you think about it, like Doug yerkis
ran an incredible dynamic disks Open and glass Blown Open
for a long, long, long long time, and now he
is the president of the PDHA, or he's like the
main guy.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't know what we call it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I should know that. Please don't fire me. I really
enjoy being on this podcast. But anyways, then Yucy Maresma
runs an amazing European Open for a long time, ran
a good tournament like that was another one, but his
sites were set on European Open. Jeff Spring ran an
incredible event, had an amazing team in Vermont and it's
insane how good that turned was and how professional those
(37:01):
venues are, and they grew, they invested money into the
pro shop, the experience on site amazing, and he set
his sights on the disc Golf Pro Tour in becoming
a part of that. Jonathan Poole is another one, like
I've I could keep going.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
There's so many.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Sean Jack ran an.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Amazing like San Francisco Open or is that the name
estha I only played it once? Yep, and incredibly event,
great added cash, really well done.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And it's like he's not.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
The only one who is capable. He's just the only
one who hasn't committed to one lane.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Everyone else is spoken for.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Shawn Jack works for the Discolf Pro Tour now, Jeff
Spring Discolf Pro Tour.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Doug yorkis PDGA, And it's this.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Amazing theory and I get how it's so supported if
you only know a very short amount of history and
disc golf. But I guess I wanted to add that too,
because that context is important.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, the only thing that I would add is as
a business woman, I can respect the business.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Man that he is.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Because, like, sure, I understand the conflict of interest.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I don't know, I've never heard of like him being
him treating people not well. I've never heard like people
talking bad about him, So that could be a different story.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But in terms of him running all.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
These events and potentially being conflict of interest, I think
he's just being an opportunist and he's seeing the opportunities
where these pockets of disc golf need to be helped,
and he has the money and the resources to help them,
so he's doing it. And so then sure it's causing
a conflict of interest, But like ConA said, he's very professional.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
He runs really good events.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
He makes sure that all of his people are taken
care of, every spectator, of VIP players, anyone who's coming through.
And you know, Hannah and I have worked with him
when the Party podcast was with lutch Shone.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
He was always professional with us, very quick correspondence.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, fire, just kidding rude again, I'm just doing.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
But anyways, just the point is, you know, he's professional
to work with. You know, the other tds, nothing against them,
but a lot of other tds that have events, big events,
they have a full time job and then they're a TD. Yeah,
Nate's job is to be a TD, so of course
he's gonna do it well.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
He was very he was on record on the Ulti
World podcast at his interview was very insightful. He did
a really good job, I think, and explained a lot.
It was kind of like we need to put him
on a panel of like future and upcoming and aspiring
tds because he has so much knowledge and he's learned
(39:47):
a lot of things the hard way, and he's rubbed
a lot of people the wrong way in doing that.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
He did say like.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
He doesn't really profit off of being a TD, and
I think that's why a lot of people, like you
said Khnor, are just kind of of like, well, I'm done,
Like why would I do this again?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Because it takes.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
A long time for you to profit and you have
to be very strategic about your venue. Do you own
the venue, are you in good relations with person? Can
you charge for parking? Does that benefit you? How much
of that benefit like or how much of that profit
are you going to put into the experience of your tournament.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
What does that benefit you? So I think I can't
really speak on that.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I've never run a tournament.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I am talking away out of pocket if we go
any further in that direction, couldn't I just wanted to
kind of give context to the situation.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
That I agree.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I think he is being an opportunist.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
There is a lot of opportunity right now because everyone
kind of just that would be able to participate gets
married to something else and then stays in that lane.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I don't know I heard this.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
They kind of suggested, like, wouldn't it be cool if
let's say us three lived in the same spot because
you finally listened to me and moved to Jacksonville Beach
and we just all lived together on the beach and
we run tournaments, and you and I and Christine are like, oh,
let's run a US Women's Well, we have the tournament,
we have the courses, but we don't have the team.
(41:16):
So then we can write a letter to the PDGA
and say we would like to run a tournament here,
but we like, we have great courses, and I think
that you could really do something here, but.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We we don't know what to do. We don't know
how to get started.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
There was a suggestion that people who have some like
little lumps of clay could write in and the potters
could come out and kind of be like, oh, you
have a great venue, but let's rework.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
It a little bit, or oh.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In my experience, this might be better for parking instead
of a tournament central, or let's get the city involved.
Here's the proposal that I've done before, and this is
all numbers and so it kind of becomes like calling
in the Avengers being like, hey, can you send iron
man to my local course to check out?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
So it's like they had that.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
That's like something that was pitched, but I think that's
kind of what happens now. But it's if you're already connected,
if you're already networked in the sport, then you can
kind of talk to someone who knows someone who can
talk to a UC, bring a UC out or Jeff
Spring is always going and like checking things out, Like
didn't he just do that a few years ago with
(42:35):
you Christine to go look at the Portland golf course.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Actually I don't remember how that started.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
That was a couple of years ago, I think, But
the pro tour runs the Portland Open, so I feel
like that one's a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Like Brian Cole's.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Our VP of operations and he works with the local
team because he's from Portland, so that's like a little
bit different of an example. But basically, if Portland wasn't
ran by disc Golf, if it was you know, its
own loc event, then yes, I think the Local Organizing
Committee the LC would have asked.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Hey, like what kind of updates do you want to
make to this course?
Speaker 6 (43:12):
You know, maybe that's something that Jeff would have said
previously after an event and we got feedback from players
or something like that, then we're like, okay, hey, how
can we improve this kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So oh no, I think that's a great idea. I
mean I feel like, like, uh, for example, like even
making a YouTube video on like how you can have
the best you know, tournament experience. Like I feel like
freakin' h DGPT needs to make a video on how
to do live scoring. I've talked to way too many
volunteers over the years and this year who were like, oh,
(43:46):
they gave this to me and they said good luck,
And I'm like that's just not cool. Like I feel
like you need some training or like a little a
little hey, here's a little video and this is how
you do it. And then there's like a little tech
and it's like ooh, ooh wrong, ooh, yes, that's how
you do it. And then I don't have to have
(44:07):
someone coming up to me in the middle of my
round when I'm trying to focus and they're like, with
that was that twenty two feet or with that twenty
five feet? And I'm like, you know that one time,
do your best, thank you, so thank you so much
for being out here, but do your best. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, it was one time.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
They're just so helpful to do that.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
And they're stress it out. They're like, yeah, my caddie
told me that he literally was he accidentally did something
wrong and he started crying because he did not know
what to do and no one told him.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
That is stressful.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Imagine being a caddy slash fanboy and like you're like
it was so responsible. This is like such a responsible
task and you feel like you don't know what to do.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
It's just a YouTube video of a Christine Jennings telling
people how to do it.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It sounds good.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
We're doing this an infomercial.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yes, yes, Oh my gosh, yes, so cheesy.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
I'll talk to DGPT about it.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
That's amazing, Yeah, we need to do that. Well cool, Yeah,
I think that's kind of what happened with uh. The
Lynchburg event was like, uh, Paul obviously had a lot
of influence in designing the courses because he we lived
there and when COVID shot everything down, the only thing
that they really could work on was parks that were
still open, which was like, there's a lot of mountain biking,
(45:30):
there's a lot of hiking trails, and there was only
a few disc golf courses. So one of the guys
was a disc golfer started building that relationship of Hey,
I know you don't have anything going on because your
tour got shut down. Do you want to come redesign
a course that we have because we've kind of seen
the layout it's not that great, And then that evolved
into we have this plot of land that we could
(45:50):
turn into new London disc golf, do you want to
come see it, which evolved into I don't want to
run a tournament, but I designed this course here and
there is club but they just don't know what to do,
and because he was networked, pitched it to hein Old
and then a golf course.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
The golf course reached out to Paul.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
And was he was connected with the people who owned
it and so they were like, we want to do that,
Like that's great. So Ivy Hill got involved, and then
the city of Lynchburg got involved because Ivy Hill people
were super connected and it's just snowballed.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
But yeah, I think it needs to.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Be more accessible hopefully, but I yeah, I'm not against
that idea either, especially for us women's Like can we
just please keep having this conversation about it? But anyways, guys,
our first episode is done and it was only an
hour long after we said it would be thirty minutes.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
It's okay, I'm ready for bed because I already have
my pjs. H.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Well, thank you guys so much for listening.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
I have an interview lined up with Onikin because she's
staying in my house, so I'm gonna chat with her
just about her off season and just how it was,
how it is getting back into the tour from her perspective,
what her schedule is.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Going to be looking like, her takes on some things
going on in.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Disc golf, and then we are going to head over
to the Waco Charity Open and we're going to get
more disc golf in the second one.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Already. Oh we're razy. Well, thank you guys so much
for parting with us. We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Bye bye.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!