March 12, 2025 • 33 mins
Anniken K. Steen joins Hannah in this episode to discuss her open bag sponsorship and the opportunities and restrictions that come with it. She also discusses her time with the Swedish disc golf team during their camp, and what foods we make in the states that she thinks is a little strange (peanut butter and jelly fans, brace yourselves). Come partee with us!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is Up Party? People? Welcome back to the podcast.
Our guest today is a three time Norwegian champion and
as of last year, the first ever Norwegian champion on
the disc Golf Pro Tour. She won her first event
in twenty twenty four at the Texas States Disc Golf Championships. Previously,
she made headlines for hitting incredible aces, some amazing throw ins,
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being one of the only lefties on tour in FPO
and of course carrying her open bag through her sponsor,
We are disc Goolf. She is my great friend and
one of my favorite Disney princesses. Please welcome onikin Christian
since then, okay, so Onnakin and I for contexts, are
just doing an audio only podcast because we're retired and
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we don't feel like having you to look at us
because we've played discolf in the wind today. But also
we're sharing a mic, so it's gonna it's just not
easy to figure out how to do this with two microphones.
But I really appreciate you hanging out with me. I
wish it was more casual.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, I mean, thank you, and you're doing a good
job trying to figure this out with the two mics.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And everything, even though we went we won. Yeah, by
the time you get back from Texas, we'll have mastered this.
It'll be great. But okay, so you just competed in
the Supreme Flight Open. You and I talked a little
bit about Norway and your off season. I have some
questions because of some things that you said. And the
first thing I want to start with is how does
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it feel to come onto a course like that after
not throwing really at all, like outside of into a net.
Obviously we know that you practice and you work hard.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, so I guess for those of you who follow
me on Instagram, I'm in posting stories and reels about
like my off season, which is staying in the garage
throwing in a net like you said, and I have
put my basket indoor in the house, so I have
like up to Circle one to practice that and going
to the gym. That's basically been my off season on
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repeat all the time. And where I live we have
a lot of snow, usually from November until late March,
even sometimes until May, so that means that I'm actually
not able to play outdoor at all unless I go
somewhere else like travel four hours away et cetera. So
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I haven't done that and coming to this Olympus course
that was pretty brutal, to be honest. It was my
first time there ever. And I have heard about the
throwdown the Mountain before, but I didn't really know that
was the course because I know, like the rumors about
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throwdown was like, there's a lot of elevation, and when
I got there, I was this is a lot of elevation. Yeah,
so obviously I have not been able to practice any
elevation during the off season. Also, just got to the
US the week before and we went here to practice,
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so we had one week where we were able to
practice outdoor with you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Olympus is also a course that is.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Way more right differently than left differentdly, and I think
usually on the tour they're good at balancing that, but
that was definitely a course where I knew that crap.
I have to use my side arm. I've been throwing
my side arms seeing Dounet, but I have never seen
my side arm during the off season.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, And like, let me tell you a story.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The week before when we were here in Jacksonville practicing
with Paul, I threw a lot of side arms but
they were all terrible, like they went straight up. Paul
even said for one of my shots that we were like,
that's probably the worst shot I've ever seen you throw,
and I agreed to that. So I had no angle control,
which is critical for that course, and we get into
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the tournament. The two first tournament days, even if my
life depended on it, I could not trust my shots
except from my side arms. So that was also completely
like what is happening. I'm usually good at throwing a backhand,
but now it seems like I'm not able to hit
my lines with that, and well, the side arm. It
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is then, but definitely one of the harder courses I
played in a really long time, and also a challenging
one in a good way because I knew I had
to go straight into usually what has been the weakest
sidearm oh my game, which has been the side arm,
and all of a sudden, I felt like I was
able to control my sete arms.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You said that you practiced with the Swedish team this
off season, so that was something at least where you
got to fly out there. Why First of all, a
lot of people don't know that that is a thing,
so maybe you could explain a little bit about what
that is and then why did you practice with them
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and maybe not like a Norwegian team, and what was
that experience like?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, So I went to Sweden this offseason for one
a weekend. They have a Swedish team because I mean,
we compete in the European Championship, which means you are
representing your country and not just your sponsors when you're
out playing. So both Norway and also Sweden among other countries,
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they have a national team where you get picked based
on different criterias like rating and there's like their Swedish
Discolf Association they pick out the team. Yeah, you don't
kind of apply for it, you get picked. Yeah. And
so the thing is that I've seen that both Finland
and Sweden previous years, they've had these camps where they
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get together, they practice, they have different presentations from knowledgeable
people about different topics. In Sweden, they also had the
finished coach a Jonas Meerla. Sorry if I say that
name wrong, I'm sorry. And I believe that he's a
really good coach, like he has so much knowledge about
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the technique, what you can focus on, et cetera. So
I really wanted to go because Norway they have not
been focusing on and prioritizing having camps like that. So
I knew that my only option was to kind of
get into that camp in Sweden.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So I asked politely if I could join.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I was able to contact one of the people in
the Swedish Swedish Association there and I just like, hey,
I want to participate. I know you're doing a lot
of good stuff and it is the room for me,
and they were really really.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Positive about that, so they said yes. So you ended
up going to Sweden. First of all, that's really cool.
That's really cool. So you ended up going out to Sweden.
Was it like a summer camp style where you got
like a bunkmate and you just was it a week long?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
What were you getting yourself into?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So the camp started on Friday and ended Sunday. Yeah, yeah,
three days and you get there. The camp starts at
five pm on Friday. Where you get who you are
you staying with in the bedrooms. It was at a
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breakfast you say like you have rooms shared toilets, and yeah,
and I shared room with Amanda, which is my good
friend from Sweden. And go right into presentations. The last
until I think closer to ten pm. Then you go
to bed, then you wake up I think breakfast was
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eight o'clock the next day, and you have more presentations lunch,
then you go to an indoor facility where you start
the technique practice.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Something like this sounds really amazing, but obviously it's not free.
So if I'm a Swedish player and I get selected
to be on the Swedish national team, is this something
that I'm invited to pay to go to or is
it like covered because I'm qualified and someone else is
paying for it?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So what I know is that for these camps, or
at least this one, those who were on the team,
the Swedish team, they get the costs covered by the
Swedish Discolf Association.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Wait, this is so cool. So other countries do this
tip like we've seen in Estonia does camps, but Normay
doesn't do them. Why do Why is that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, honestly I wish they did that, but I guess
they have chosen to prioritize different because I know we
were sending our team to Team Worlds in Australia and
we got part of that covered like that trip was
not completely free, but it would have been way more
expensive if we had to pay for it all by ourselves,
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So they cover that. Norway is also going to China
for the World Games. Me and Abannonaz where going, and
they're also going to cover if not all of it,
at least part of it. They're focusing or putting their
money into other ways through rather support us. That's really
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cool something. It's a concept that we don't have in
the US. You see collegiate Nationals, which is like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
A big thing where you have a group of people
and usually your club will raise money and then you'll
go to collegian Nationals every year. But States, I think
the biggest event that celebrates states competing against each other
as USDGC. You always see all the flags of all
the different states that are going, but it's not really
for everyone, you know, it's not like a team thing
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where like the you know, Commonwealth of Massachusetts is sending
like someone like Casey White or Simon or something. So
it's just a differ different concept than we are used
to in the States. Because this is huge. We have
never even i mean, we haven't sent a team to
the Australian Tournament either and that was you said, what
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was that tournament?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The national the team Worlds? And you actually did send
a US team there, but.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It wasn't like we sent you know, Anthony Brella and
those kinds of people. Okay, so yeah, that's crazy. So actually,
speaking of things that are different, you are unique also
and that you don't have a manufacturer sponsor, and that
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is I think something that doesn't get covered enough. So
what's that like?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well as for me right now, I'm happy about my situation.
I am when we are Discolf. I've been for a
long time and also had the contract for three more
years with them, and I recently also signed with a
mold team, which is also kind of a new thing,
meaning I'm not sponsored by a custom Plus I have
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a sponsorship with my mold that is it eco X,
so I'll be representing it Eco X as a logo
for instance, and that is like it's still I'm still
able to have an open bag, but I will bag
they like the riggs and be throwing that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So you're representing that Mold. So you're sponsored in the
sense of you have that mold. That's so cool. What
is that mold and what would your competition be with
that mold because you obviously can't bag the competition of
that mold. Correct, Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So the thing with rick Wax is that it's a putter.
I prefer it as a throwing putter. It has quite
a good glide straight, but it fades at the end.
For me, that was actually a disc that I was
missing in my bag, so it was kind of filling
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a gap that I felt I haven't had with other potteries.
And of course I also use it like both side
arm and forehand no put backhand in sidearm, and well,
I'm not really sure about like the other competitive molds
to that in other brands though, because like I said,
I have felt that I haven't had a disc that
does that exact thing, right.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So you said that you're sponsored by we are Disc Golf.
I know we talked about that a little bit the
last time you were on, which was virtual So that's fun.
But your sponsorship with them, they are a distributor, so
they get tons of discs and then they distribute them.
Is it easier to be sponsored by someone like that
as an Norwegian player because in the States you have
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to I mean, I have to imagine you can't just
like go to the headquarters easily. And we see pros
take home tons and tons of plastic or they get
shipped tons of plastic and it's all in the United States.
But for European players, like even Kristen, we see her
travel to latitude, but it's kind of a hike to
get up there. Does that play a factor at all
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when you are because you went a pro tory event,
so obviously people were interested in you, but did not
play a factor at all in your decision to just
stick with we are disc golf and not really try
to pursue any conversations with manufacturers themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I haven't really thought of it in the way that
you studied now, like about traveling to the manufacturers and
all that, because obviously I can get most of its
shipped to me, right, so that has not been an
issue about like closing my back to any manufacturer. I
would say, we've had one serious offer this offseason. I
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do have management also, so they are kind of handling
all the business stuff, so I don't have to think
as much about that. But for now, we saw it
as the best option to still be an open bag
and still only having we are discolf and see your bags,
the bags that I'm having now, the equix as like
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the good Mix for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, I think we've seen it a couple times with
the old sponsors or just like signature discs I think
is what they might call it, Like draw Gibson had
some with a few companies, and then I know that
there was opportunities to do it for some other players
with Open Bag I know I've seen I mean even
us with the Party podcast. We could go to Enevea
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and purchase, like at wholesale a bunch of discs with
our logo on them and then kind of make that
work if you have someone to handle like shipping and
handling or whatever. So it's cool that you have the
store doing it. Why do you think that there will
be more people who will want to do it the
way that you're doing it, or like is the talk
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around FPO kind of still to just align with one
company and then call it a day, because there's a
lot of conversation about that right now, as far as
WICH is more beneficial for you.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, So I do believe that a lot of people
still look at it as you have to have a
manufacturer to be successful. But as the disc golf scene
develops and we see more and more people actually going
open bag or more than usual, I think we will
definitely see more players if they get the opportunity to
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only have mold sponsors. I think we will see more
of that in the future definitely, and it might also
be a potential better way for manufacturers also to sponsor someone.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, well, that's cool, insight. I don't want to ask
too much because I know that you and I have
had conversations, so obviously it it starts to get blurry
and be like, hey, I remember when you said this.
Can we talk about it on my show in front
of all these people. But the Discolf thro tour, you're
heading out to Waco. You're gonna be driving in the
RV out there, and you're going to be lodging with
Kristen and Silver, different people that you could stay with.
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Is it better to stay with people who are a
little more serious for you? Or do you like go
coming back to the Airbnb and people are ready to
play and go out. What's your vibe?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I would say that I definitely like to relax
after a round two, but I'm also going to stay
with Violet so and she is definitely she has a
lot of energy.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I love you, Violet.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So we always do different stuff after, but it's like
a good balance, like you still are able to have
a house where you relax and take it slow, play
some UNO, and then with Violet we can just speed
things up a bit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I guess, yeah, is it weird to stay with people
who are from different countries? Has that? Like? What's that
experience been like? Because when you come to the United States,
you meet people from all over the place, and you
didn't start doing that when you played disc golf, So
what is that experience been like for you?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, one thing is that you'd do see the difference
in some cultural stuff. I say, well, the first thing
I noticed the first time I stayed with Americans they
just walk in with their shoes on in the house
and you're all Europeans go like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But of course you get used to it. So just
like small stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But I guess when you get used to it and
you get comfortable around the people that you'll like to
travel with. It doesn't matter if you're a US citizen
or a European.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
For me, I think the biggest thing was, I started
to talk like them and slow down because I just
match energy all the time, which isn't always a good thing.
So instead of talking to people how I would normally
with my friends, you use a ton of slang, a
ton of filler words, and there's a lot of slang
like ask me a question, yes or no question. Do
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you like dogs? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
No I do.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So it's like or you could say no, yeah I
do like dogs, but it's like if you're not in English,
I just said no and yes, or where I'm from,
we say wicked, so it's like wicked awesome, and it
just means really or elevated. But then if you say
it down here, wicked is a negative term, like a
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wicked witch or something, and so that's confusing too. The
thing that I noticed is, yes, I match the energy
of the people I'm staying with, and that was really
funny to me that I was doing that. And then
the foods that we made were so similar but different.
So you guys will make sandwiches, but you don't use
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two slices of bread one bread for a sandwich just
you do. It needs a toueop. It's so funny. It's
just open to the element. Oh that's such a good point, actually,
but that's just what we were used to. It's delicious
and I do it too now, but it's just the
funniest thing. I'm like, where's the top of your sand
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And you just take two slices of bread, you put
them to each other, and you make two sandwiches and
then that's your sandwich. And it blows me away as
someone who grew up not like in crust, I think
I would have flourished in that kind of environment because
it's too much bread. But what are some of the
recipes on your like that we've made that You're like
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you can, like you make that, or like, oh that's
so interesting, we don't make that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I think what I've been thinking a lot about here
is when I see the peanut butter jelly. Oh yeah, yeah,
because that's not a thing I'm used to it from.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Norway at all, not even when you're a kid. Did
you know about it or you just didn't even really no,
like we did.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I don't even think we ever had peanut buttery in
our house.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah. Paul eats those all the time. That's like his snack.
He eats like it's like his sweet you know what
about cereal?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, we did have cereal like cornflakes and
some other sweet probably not good for you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Stop.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, Well, you're about to go to Texas, Baco, and
then Austin.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You have good memories in Texas. That's where you were
when you won your first protor event. How are you
feeling It's such a general question, like how are you feeling?
One are your vibes, but how are you feeling about
going back to Texas? I know we played around today
and it was windy, and you were delighted because it
was good practice.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So I would say that anything after Olympus would be great,
because first of all, I had never played Olympus, so
that's one thing. And going back to Texas, I know Waco,
and I think I know both of the courses were
gonna play in Austin also so and Waco is known
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to be shorter, so I feel it's just gonna be
more relaxing. Probably you have a few more holes where
you can throw a disc and it will like, not
think too much about it and it will probably be okay,
like in bounds or not in the rough. Like in
the Olympus, you always had to be on your teeth toe,
So just coming out from the Olympus shock, probably it's.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Just good for me. I know. I thought about that
because we used to start in Vegas, and we talked
about that on the show how we everyone hated starting
there because it was just wide open and it was freezing,
like not a bad venue at all, like a great
venue and very professional and very fun because it's Vegas,
but just the time of year was just rough as heck,
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and so starting in Florida it was nice and warm.
But you do have to like hit your lines immediately.
There's no grace period. There's not really a lot of
holes where you just are like, okay, this one's simple.
I just have to, you know, close my eyes and
throw and it's parked and I can just walk away.
There's not a lot, there's not really anything there that's
like that. So not an easy one to start with.
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But Waco maybe more forgiving, Yeah, I think so. Or well,
I'm not going to say that right now, because you
can always mess up completely, but.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
From what I remember, at least it will be a
bit more relaxing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, do you feel like there's pressure to play all
of the events this year?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I've heard a lot of people are not doing like
full tour also with the tour pass and stuff. But
I mean I'm going home after Austin. I'm not playing
to Music City or whatever tournament.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is after that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So for my part, I don't really
care what other people are playing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I just have my own schedule and I go with that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'll be back in Norway for a bit and then
I'll come back returning before the Europe Swing.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah that's nice. So you don't you know, there's not
a pressure from your sponsors to hit every event. Just
do you have to clear your schedule with them before
you go out on tour? Do you have to have
anything approved or is it pretty casual? No, not really.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I just tell them where I want to go, and
of course obviously they want me to be at the
Norwegian events because we have quite a few of them.
But I don't have anything in my contract stating that
you have to be here, you had to go there to.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Play, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So no, not really. The only thing I had to
clear it with is my boss because I still work
a bit as an accountant.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, and she can't do your accounting, folks, because she
only does Norwegian accounting, so maybe if you live in
Norway and you're listening, first of all high, second of all,
she could do your accounting, maybe she'd be great at it.
But that's good. I'm glad that you're not feeling the pressure.
It's something I think people have started to think about
because we said this in the show the last first
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episode back that we did but ten years ago. The
tour was super casual in my opinion from what I saw,
and it was just a lot of atiers that were
really well run. They had a lot of added cash
and it was common sense for people to go to.
Those ended up becoming this tour that wasn't really a tour.
And then of course they had the National Tour, which
was more organized. It was a series of events throughout
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the year and it was run by the PGA. And
then they had the Majors, which changed all the time.
There was sometimes three, there were sometimes four. At one
point there was five, and that's what it was, and
if you wanted to be a professional disc golfer, those
were the ones that you aimed to go to. But
now there's so many events on tour and everyone pushed
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themselves to be at all of them. There was the
discolf Elite series, a Silver series, and now there's the
Q series, and people pushed themselves to be at every
single one, and there was incentives for being at every
single one. But I think now that we've had a
few years of that, players are starting to take a
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step back and really calculate points and the value of
overworking your body and yeah, it could be great in
the short term because you might make more money, but
long term, you're going to burn out like crazy. So
it's cool to hear your perspective because I think it
is different than what we speculate online about that players
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just have to be at everything.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh yeah, No, I was just gonna say that I
actually agree with you, and I want to calculates the
points you yeah, just to see like, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I can sense because you're an accountant. So it feels like,
even though it's kind of a joke, it's makes sense
to me that your brain would think that way and
just want to be about the statistics. I'd say that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And also, just yeah, the burnout, because I remember, like
the first year I was on tour here in the US,
I felt that it was just a lot to take
in a lot of events all the time, and even
though I kind of had the same schedule, like going
back and forth a bit between Norway and the US,
but you can definitely be burnt out and that's not
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going to help you, like cashing or anything right in
the long run.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like you said, I think it's so individual, even personally,
like pushing myself to be on tour at all of
the events because that's where Paul was, versus taking a
step back and doing a little bit more of long
distance and recognizing being on tour doesn't fill my cup.
Even though some of those places are beautiful and it
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can be really nice, and some of my favorite sleeps
I've ever had have been in truck stops because there's
so it's so much white noise, and I love white noise,
and it's so cozy. You don't even understand. I could
cry thinking about it. But I've had great adventures on tour,
but they really are very stimulating, and if you're not careful,
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too much stimulation puts you in burnout. So you have
to see what fills your cup. And for some of
the people on tour, traveling and being around people is
what fills their cup. Because they're extroverts and they're extremely
adventurous for some being home. I know Kristina has talked
about that, Like Paige has said, she loves traveling, she
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loves being out. Katrina has said before that the more
tournament she plays in a row, the better she feels
because she gets into that rhythm and she loves being
in a rhythm with a schedule and a routine. And
I think Paul feels that way too. But to be fair,
that's kind of what they're used to with like having
to grind and like make it to where they are.
Whereas Kristen has said ever since she came on tour,
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she's not going to do this whole thing. She's not
going to go to a certain events. She wants to
be home. She wants to be with her cat and
her daughter. Like, yeah, that makes sense to me. So
it's cool to see the perspectives, but I just hate
when in media we put so much pressure on people
because everyone's different. And is that kind of what you discovered,
Like you had to really learn how to fill your
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cup back up when it was empty from traveling and
going to events.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I guess that was what I had to learn
what what drained me and what was given me energy
while on tour, and also just finding the schedule that
was best for a men.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Did it surprise you what those things were, like, what
took your energy away and what.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Didn't I'd say yes, because I'm used to traveling. That
was not something I thought would drain me as it
did back then. But just all the planning all the time,
going to a new city every week was different, and
just having to learn because I haven't really been much
in the US before I went on tour, and just
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going to the grocery store, right, I don't know what
to look for. I don't know what brands are good
and how well. Of course, pasta is something that looks
kind of similar, but you know what I mean. I
felt that way when I went to Norway.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I didn't have anything to eat for our family because
it was Sunday, and so I was kind of going
back and forth between ordering something and just going out.
And there was a little grocery store near us, so
I went. But on Sundays, you guys don't have the
grocery stores open, their little market versions of the grocery store,
so it's not the full thing that's open. It's a
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little tiny, gas station size shop with all of the essentials.
But everyone in there knew exactly what they were getting.
They come here every Sunday at this time. I am
not in their routine and I better get out of
the way. And who am I? And I was going
up and down aisles and apparently you're not supposed to
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do that. You just keep it moving in one direction
and don't forget anything. And here I am with my
child and I'm just bebopping around. But yeah, it's exhausting.
It's the factor that fans underestimate if they think and
idolize this lifestyle is all of the behind the scenes,
invisible work that it takes to show up. And if
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you've ever moved, it's like that every Sunday and Monday,
it's like that Sunday. You're taking everything that you have,
all of your systems that you've put in place, and
you're shoving it in bags and doing everything that you
can and to carry all the stuff with you, laundry, groceries, everything, shampoo,
to shart, all that stuff into a suitcase or bags
and then going to the next spot and figuring out
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what your systems are.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Even people in.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Vans, it changes all the time. Where are you parking,
what's the weather, and all of these unknowns that get
revealed to you as you travel. So I get I
guess that kind of goes back to it's nice to
go to the same place a few times in a row.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And that's probably maybe why I'm looking forward to going
back to Waco and Elson. It's up bender before, so
I know a bit more about the city and what
to expect from it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But it's true because you think about showing up to
the course for practice, so you need clothes and shoes.
You had to have thought about that beforehand. That's very fun.
Everyone does that when they go to high school. Like
you get new clothes and shoes, Okay, then you get
your bag, you need your discs. That's very normal, still
very normal. You could do this tomorrow at the course
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that we have here. But then you need snacks. Where
do they come from? And what are they? And what
do you need? And do you need water? And where
are you going to store that? And where are you
cleaning that? And what are you putting your snacks in?
Do you need tuppleware and where's that coming from? And
then it's like you go back to your Airbnb and
it's all of these little systems, and it's why you
see pros at the beginning of the season bragging about
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packing their cars and then you never see any content
from their cars for the rest of the tour because
it's just insanity. It's insane because if you get a
rain round, forget it.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Like then, yeah, I totally get why they're not showing
anything except from the start of the season every single time.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But on again, thanks so much for hanging out with
me and thanks for partying with us. This was cool.
I get to hear some insight from you. If you
guys want to follow Onikin she's on Instagram. You can
follow me on social media on Egan stand on Instagram
and TikTok, and now you too will start. I will
do my best, is what I'll say to actually do
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more content on YouTube this year, so bear with me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
If it's all weekly, I can't guarantee that, but you'll
I'll show up more there and there wills during this season.
You'll see some cool discs with my name on. I
can talk about it too much right now, but I
will make sure to post about it on social media
when a time is right.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
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What is Up Party? People? Welcome back to the podcast.
Our guest today is a three time Norwegian champion and
as of last year, the first ever Norwegian champion on
the disc Golf Pro Tour. She won her first event
in twenty twenty four at the Texas States Disc Golf Championships. Previously,
she made headlines for hitting incredible aces, some amazing throw ins,
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being one of the only lefties on tour in FPO
and of course carrying her open bag through her sponsor,
We are disc Goolf. She is my great friend and
one of my favorite Disney princesses. Please welcome onikin Christian
since then, okay, so Onnakin and I for contexts, are
just doing an audio only podcast because we're retired and
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we don't feel like having you to look at us
because we've played discolf in the wind today. But also
we're sharing a mic, so it's gonna it's just not
easy to figure out how to do this with two microphones.
But I really appreciate you hanging out with me. I
wish it was more casual.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, I mean, thank you, and you're doing a good
job trying to figure this out with the two mics.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And everything, even though we went we won. Yeah, by
the time you get back from Texas, we'll have mastered this.
It'll be great. But okay, so you just competed in
the Supreme Flight Open. You and I talked a little
bit about Norway and your off season. I have some
questions because of some things that you said. And the
first thing I want to start with is how does
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it feel to come onto a course like that after
not throwing really at all, like outside of into a net.
Obviously we know that you practice and you work hard.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, so I guess for those of you who follow
me on Instagram, I'm in posting stories and reels about
like my off season, which is staying in the garage
throwing in a net like you said, and I have
put my basket indoor in the house, so I have
like up to Circle one to practice that and going
to the gym. That's basically been my off season on
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repeat all the time. And where I live we have
a lot of snow, usually from November until late March,
even sometimes until May, so that means that I'm actually
not able to play outdoor at all unless I go
somewhere else like travel four hours away et cetera. So
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I haven't done that and coming to this Olympus course
that was pretty brutal, to be honest. It was my
first time there ever. And I have heard about the
throwdown the Mountain before, but I didn't really know that
was the course because I know, like the rumors about
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throwdown was like, there's a lot of elevation, and when
I got there, I was this is a lot of elevation. Yeah,
so obviously I have not been able to practice any
elevation during the off season. Also, just got to the
US the week before and we went here to practice,
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so we had one week where we were able to
practice outdoor with you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Olympus is also a course that is.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Way more right differently than left differentdly, and I think
usually on the tour they're good at balancing that, but
that was definitely a course where I knew that crap.
I have to use my side arm. I've been throwing
my side arms seeing Dounet, but I have never seen
my side arm during the off season.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, And like, let me tell you a story.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The week before when we were here in Jacksonville practicing
with Paul, I threw a lot of side arms but
they were all terrible, like they went straight up. Paul
even said for one of my shots that we were like,
that's probably the worst shot I've ever seen you throw,
and I agreed to that. So I had no angle control,
which is critical for that course, and we get into
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the tournament. The two first tournament days, even if my
life depended on it, I could not trust my shots
except from my side arms. So that was also completely
like what is happening. I'm usually good at throwing a backhand,
but now it seems like I'm not able to hit
my lines with that, and well, the side arm. It
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is then, but definitely one of the harder courses I
played in a really long time, and also a challenging
one in a good way because I knew I had
to go straight into usually what has been the weakest
sidearm oh my game, which has been the side arm,
and all of a sudden, I felt like I was
able to control my sete arms.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You said that you practiced with the Swedish team this
off season, so that was something at least where you
got to fly out there. Why First of all, a
lot of people don't know that that is a thing,
so maybe you could explain a little bit about what
that is and then why did you practice with them
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and maybe not like a Norwegian team, and what was
that experience like?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, So I went to Sweden this offseason for one
a weekend. They have a Swedish team because I mean,
we compete in the European Championship, which means you are
representing your country and not just your sponsors when you're
out playing. So both Norway and also Sweden among other countries,
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they have a national team where you get picked based
on different criterias like rating and there's like their Swedish
Discolf Association they pick out the team. Yeah, you don't
kind of apply for it, you get picked. Yeah. And
so the thing is that I've seen that both Finland
and Sweden previous years, they've had these camps where they
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get together, they practice, they have different presentations from knowledgeable
people about different topics. In Sweden, they also had the
finished coach a Jonas Meerla. Sorry if I say that
name wrong, I'm sorry. And I believe that he's a
really good coach, like he has so much knowledge about
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the technique, what you can focus on, et cetera. So
I really wanted to go because Norway they have not
been focusing on and prioritizing having camps like that. So
I knew that my only option was to kind of
get into that camp in Sweden.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So I asked politely if I could join.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I was able to contact one of the people in
the Swedish Swedish Association there and I just like, hey,
I want to participate. I know you're doing a lot
of good stuff and it is the room for me,
and they were really really.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Positive about that, so they said yes. So you ended
up going to Sweden. First of all, that's really cool.
That's really cool. So you ended up going out to Sweden.
Was it like a summer camp style where you got
like a bunkmate and you just was it a week long?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
What were you getting yourself into?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So the camp started on Friday and ended Sunday. Yeah, yeah,
three days and you get there. The camp starts at
five pm on Friday. Where you get who you are
you staying with in the bedrooms. It was at a
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breakfast you say like you have rooms shared toilets, and yeah,
and I shared room with Amanda, which is my good
friend from Sweden. And go right into presentations. The last
until I think closer to ten pm. Then you go
to bed, then you wake up I think breakfast was
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eight o'clock the next day, and you have more presentations lunch,
then you go to an indoor facility where you start
the technique practice.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Something like this sounds really amazing, but obviously it's not free.
So if I'm a Swedish player and I get selected
to be on the Swedish national team, is this something
that I'm invited to pay to go to or is
it like covered because I'm qualified and someone else is
paying for it?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So what I know is that for these camps, or
at least this one, those who were on the team,
the Swedish team, they get the costs covered by the
Swedish Discolf Association.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Wait, this is so cool. So other countries do this
tip like we've seen in Estonia does camps, but Normay
doesn't do them. Why do Why is that?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, honestly I wish they did that, but I guess
they have chosen to prioritize different because I know we
were sending our team to Team Worlds in Australia and
we got part of that covered like that trip was
not completely free, but it would have been way more
expensive if we had to pay for it all by ourselves,
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So they cover that. Norway is also going to China
for the World Games. Me and Abannonaz where going, and
they're also going to cover if not all of it,
at least part of it. They're focusing or putting their
money into other ways through rather support us. That's really
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cool something. It's a concept that we don't have in
the US. You see collegiate Nationals, which is like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
A big thing where you have a group of people
and usually your club will raise money and then you'll
go to collegian Nationals every year. But States, I think
the biggest event that celebrates states competing against each other
as USDGC. You always see all the flags of all
the different states that are going, but it's not really
for everyone, you know, it's not like a team thing
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where like the you know, Commonwealth of Massachusetts is sending
like someone like Casey White or Simon or something. So
it's just a differ different concept than we are used
to in the States. Because this is huge. We have
never even i mean, we haven't sent a team to
the Australian Tournament either and that was you said, what
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was that tournament?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The national the team Worlds? And you actually did send
a US team there, but.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It wasn't like we sent you know, Anthony Brella and
those kinds of people. Okay, so yeah, that's crazy. So actually,
speaking of things that are different, you are unique also
and that you don't have a manufacturer sponsor, and that
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is I think something that doesn't get covered enough. So
what's that like?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well as for me right now, I'm happy about my situation.
I am when we are Discolf. I've been for a
long time and also had the contract for three more
years with them, and I recently also signed with a
mold team, which is also kind of a new thing,
meaning I'm not sponsored by a custom Plus I have
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a sponsorship with my mold that is it eco X,
so I'll be representing it Eco X as a logo
for instance, and that is like it's still I'm still
able to have an open bag, but I will bag
they like the riggs and be throwing that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So you're representing that Mold. So you're sponsored in the
sense of you have that mold. That's so cool. What
is that mold and what would your competition be with
that mold because you obviously can't bag the competition of
that mold. Correct, Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So the thing with rick Wax is that it's a putter.
I prefer it as a throwing putter. It has quite
a good glide straight, but it fades at the end.
For me, that was actually a disc that I was
missing in my bag, so it was kind of filling
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a gap that I felt I haven't had with other potteries.
And of course I also use it like both side
arm and forehand no put backhand in sidearm, and well,
I'm not really sure about like the other competitive molds
to that in other brands though, because like I said,
I have felt that I haven't had a disc that
does that exact thing, right.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So you said that you're sponsored by we are Disc Golf.
I know we talked about that a little bit the
last time you were on, which was virtual So that's fun.
But your sponsorship with them, they are a distributor, so
they get tons of discs and then they distribute them.
Is it easier to be sponsored by someone like that
as an Norwegian player because in the States you have
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to I mean, I have to imagine you can't just
like go to the headquarters easily. And we see pros
take home tons and tons of plastic or they get
shipped tons of plastic and it's all in the United States.
But for European players, like even Kristen, we see her
travel to latitude, but it's kind of a hike to
get up there. Does that play a factor at all
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when you are because you went a pro tory event,
so obviously people were interested in you, but did not
play a factor at all in your decision to just
stick with we are disc golf and not really try
to pursue any conversations with manufacturers themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I haven't really thought of it in the way that
you studied now, like about traveling to the manufacturers and
all that, because obviously I can get most of its
shipped to me, right, so that has not been an
issue about like closing my back to any manufacturer. I
would say, we've had one serious offer this offseason. I
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do have management also, so they are kind of handling
all the business stuff, so I don't have to think
as much about that. But for now, we saw it
as the best option to still be an open bag
and still only having we are discolf and see your bags,
the bags that I'm having now, the equix as like
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the good Mix for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, I think we've seen it a couple times with
the old sponsors or just like signature discs I think
is what they might call it, Like draw Gibson had
some with a few companies, and then I know that
there was opportunities to do it for some other players
with Open Bag I know I've seen I mean even
us with the Party podcast. We could go to Enevea
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and purchase, like at wholesale a bunch of discs with
our logo on them and then kind of make that
work if you have someone to handle like shipping and
handling or whatever. So it's cool that you have the
store doing it. Why do you think that there will
be more people who will want to do it the
way that you're doing it, or like is the talk
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around FPO kind of still to just align with one
company and then call it a day, because there's a
lot of conversation about that right now, as far as
WICH is more beneficial for you.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, So I do believe that a lot of people
still look at it as you have to have a
manufacturer to be successful. But as the disc golf scene
develops and we see more and more people actually going
open bag or more than usual, I think we will
definitely see more players if they get the opportunity to
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only have mold sponsors. I think we will see more
of that in the future definitely, and it might also
be a potential better way for manufacturers also to sponsor someone.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, well, that's cool, insight. I don't want to ask
too much because I know that you and I have
had conversations, so obviously it it starts to get blurry
and be like, hey, I remember when you said this.
Can we talk about it on my show in front
of all these people. But the Discolf thro tour, you're
heading out to Waco. You're gonna be driving in the
RV out there, and you're going to be lodging with
Kristen and Silver, different people that you could stay with.
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Is it better to stay with people who are a
little more serious for you? Or do you like go
coming back to the Airbnb and people are ready to
play and go out. What's your vibe?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I would say that I definitely like to relax
after a round two, but I'm also going to stay
with Violet so and she is definitely she has a
lot of energy.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I love you, Violet.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So we always do different stuff after, but it's like
a good balance, like you still are able to have
a house where you relax and take it slow, play
some UNO, and then with Violet we can just speed
things up a bit.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I guess, yeah, is it weird to stay with people
who are from different countries? Has that? Like? What's that
experience been like? Because when you come to the United States,
you meet people from all over the place, and you
didn't start doing that when you played disc golf, So
what is that experience been like for you?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, one thing is that you'd do see the difference
in some cultural stuff. I say, well, the first thing
I noticed the first time I stayed with Americans they
just walk in with their shoes on in the house
and you're all Europeans go like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But of course you get used to it. So just
like small stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But I guess when you get used to it and
you get comfortable around the people that you'll like to
travel with. It doesn't matter if you're a US citizen
or a European.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
For me, I think the biggest thing was, I started
to talk like them and slow down because I just
match energy all the time, which isn't always a good thing.
So instead of talking to people how I would normally
with my friends, you use a ton of slang, a
ton of filler words, and there's a lot of slang
like ask me a question, yes or no question. Do
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you like dogs? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
No I do.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So it's like or you could say no, yeah I
do like dogs, but it's like if you're not in English,
I just said no and yes, or where I'm from,
we say wicked, so it's like wicked awesome, and it
just means really or elevated. But then if you say
it down here, wicked is a negative term, like a
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wicked witch or something, and so that's confusing too. The
thing that I noticed is, yes, I match the energy
of the people I'm staying with, and that was really
funny to me that I was doing that. And then
the foods that we made were so similar but different.
So you guys will make sandwiches, but you don't use
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two slices of bread one bread for a sandwich just
you do. It needs a toueop. It's so funny. It's
just open to the element. Oh that's such a good point, actually,
but that's just what we were used to. It's delicious
and I do it too now, but it's just the
funniest thing. I'm like, where's the top of your sand
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And you just take two slices of bread, you put
them to each other, and you make two sandwiches and
then that's your sandwich. And it blows me away as
someone who grew up not like in crust, I think
I would have flourished in that kind of environment because
it's too much bread. But what are some of the
recipes on your like that we've made that You're like
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you can, like you make that, or like, oh that's
so interesting, we don't make that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I think what I've been thinking a lot about here
is when I see the peanut butter jelly. Oh yeah, yeah,
because that's not a thing I'm used to it from.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Norway at all, not even when you're a kid. Did
you know about it or you just didn't even really no,
like we did.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I don't even think we ever had peanut buttery in
our house.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah. Paul eats those all the time. That's like his snack.
He eats like it's like his sweet you know what
about cereal?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, we did have cereal like cornflakes and
some other sweet probably not good for you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Stop.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, Well, you're about to go to Texas, Baco, and
then Austin.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You have good memories in Texas. That's where you were
when you won your first protor event. How are you
feeling It's such a general question, like how are you feeling?
One are your vibes, but how are you feeling about
going back to Texas? I know we played around today
and it was windy, and you were delighted because it
was good practice.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So I would say that anything after Olympus would be great,
because first of all, I had never played Olympus, so
that's one thing. And going back to Texas, I know Waco,
and I think I know both of the courses were
gonna play in Austin also so and Waco is known
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to be shorter, so I feel it's just gonna be
more relaxing. Probably you have a few more holes where
you can throw a disc and it will like, not
think too much about it and it will probably be okay,
like in bounds or not in the rough. Like in
the Olympus, you always had to be on your teeth toe,
So just coming out from the Olympus shock, probably it's.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Just good for me. I know. I thought about that
because we used to start in Vegas, and we talked
about that on the show how we everyone hated starting
there because it was just wide open and it was freezing,
like not a bad venue at all, like a great
venue and very professional and very fun because it's Vegas,
but just the time of year was just rough as heck,
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and so starting in Florida it was nice and warm.
But you do have to like hit your lines immediately.
There's no grace period. There's not really a lot of
holes where you just are like, okay, this one's simple.
I just have to, you know, close my eyes and
throw and it's parked and I can just walk away.
There's not a lot, there's not really anything there that's
like that. So not an easy one to start with.
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But Waco maybe more forgiving, Yeah, I think so. Or well,
I'm not going to say that right now, because you
can always mess up completely, but.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
From what I remember, at least it will be a
bit more relaxing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, do you feel like there's pressure to play all
of the events this year?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I've heard a lot of people are not doing like
full tour also with the tour pass and stuff. But
I mean I'm going home after Austin. I'm not playing
to Music City or whatever tournament.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is after that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So for my part, I don't really
care what other people are playing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I just have my own schedule and I go with that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'll be back in Norway for a bit and then
I'll come back returning before the Europe Swing.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah that's nice. So you don't you know, there's not
a pressure from your sponsors to hit every event. Just
do you have to clear your schedule with them before
you go out on tour? Do you have to have
anything approved or is it pretty casual? No, not really.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I just tell them where I want to go, and
of course obviously they want me to be at the
Norwegian events because we have quite a few of them.
But I don't have anything in my contract stating that
you have to be here, you had to go there to.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Play, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So no, not really. The only thing I had to
clear it with is my boss because I still work
a bit as an accountant.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, and she can't do your accounting, folks, because she
only does Norwegian accounting, so maybe if you live in
Norway and you're listening, first of all high, second of all,
she could do your accounting, maybe she'd be great at it.
But that's good. I'm glad that you're not feeling the pressure.
It's something I think people have started to think about
because we said this in the show the last first
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episode back that we did but ten years ago. The
tour was super casual in my opinion from what I saw,
and it was just a lot of atiers that were
really well run. They had a lot of added cash
and it was common sense for people to go to.
Those ended up becoming this tour that wasn't really a tour.
And then of course they had the National Tour, which
was more organized. It was a series of events throughout
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the year and it was run by the PGA. And
then they had the Majors, which changed all the time.
There was sometimes three, there were sometimes four. At one
point there was five, and that's what it was, and
if you wanted to be a professional disc golfer, those
were the ones that you aimed to go to. But
now there's so many events on tour and everyone pushed
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themselves to be at all of them. There was the
discolf Elite series, a Silver series, and now there's the
Q series, and people pushed themselves to be at every
single one, and there was incentives for being at every
single one. But I think now that we've had a
few years of that, players are starting to take a
(24:50):
step back and really calculate points and the value of
overworking your body and yeah, it could be great in
the short term because you might make more money, but
long term, you're going to burn out like crazy. So
it's cool to hear your perspective because I think it
is different than what we speculate online about that players
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just have to be at everything.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh yeah, No, I was just gonna say that I
actually agree with you, and I want to calculates the
points you yeah, just to see like, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I can sense because you're an accountant. So it feels like,
even though it's kind of a joke, it's makes sense
to me that your brain would think that way and
just want to be about the statistics. I'd say that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And also, just yeah, the burnout, because I remember, like
the first year I was on tour here in the US,
I felt that it was just a lot to take
in a lot of events all the time, and even
though I kind of had the same schedule, like going
back and forth a bit between Norway and the US,
but you can definitely be burnt out and that's not
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going to help you, like cashing or anything right in
the long run.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like you said, I think it's so individual, even personally,
like pushing myself to be on tour at all of
the events because that's where Paul was, versus taking a
step back and doing a little bit more of long
distance and recognizing being on tour doesn't fill my cup.
Even though some of those places are beautiful and it
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can be really nice, and some of my favorite sleeps
I've ever had have been in truck stops because there's
so it's so much white noise, and I love white noise,
and it's so cozy. You don't even understand. I could
cry thinking about it. But I've had great adventures on tour,
but they really are very stimulating, and if you're not careful,
(26:41):
too much stimulation puts you in burnout. So you have
to see what fills your cup. And for some of
the people on tour, traveling and being around people is
what fills their cup. Because they're extroverts and they're extremely
adventurous for some being home. I know Kristina has talked
about that, Like Paige has said, she loves traveling, she
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loves being out. Katrina has said before that the more
tournament she plays in a row, the better she feels
because she gets into that rhythm and she loves being
in a rhythm with a schedule and a routine. And
I think Paul feels that way too. But to be fair,
that's kind of what they're used to with like having
to grind and like make it to where they are.
Whereas Kristen has said ever since she came on tour,
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she's not going to do this whole thing. She's not
going to go to a certain events. She wants to
be home. She wants to be with her cat and
her daughter. Like, yeah, that makes sense to me. So
it's cool to see the perspectives, but I just hate
when in media we put so much pressure on people
because everyone's different. And is that kind of what you discovered,
Like you had to really learn how to fill your
(27:44):
cup back up when it was empty from traveling and
going to events.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I guess that was what I had to learn
what what drained me and what was given me energy
while on tour, and also just finding the schedule that
was best for a men.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Did it surprise you what those things were, like, what
took your energy away and what.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Didn't I'd say yes, because I'm used to traveling. That
was not something I thought would drain me as it
did back then. But just all the planning all the time,
going to a new city every week was different, and
just having to learn because I haven't really been much
in the US before I went on tour, and just
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going to the grocery store, right, I don't know what
to look for. I don't know what brands are good
and how well. Of course, pasta is something that looks
kind of similar, but you know what I mean. I
felt that way when I went to Norway.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I didn't have anything to eat for our family because
it was Sunday, and so I was kind of going
back and forth between ordering something and just going out.
And there was a little grocery store near us, so
I went. But on Sundays, you guys don't have the
grocery stores open, their little market versions of the grocery store,
so it's not the full thing that's open. It's a
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little tiny, gas station size shop with all of the essentials.
But everyone in there knew exactly what they were getting.
They come here every Sunday at this time. I am
not in their routine and I better get out of
the way. And who am I? And I was going
up and down aisles and apparently you're not supposed to
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do that. You just keep it moving in one direction
and don't forget anything. And here I am with my
child and I'm just bebopping around. But yeah, it's exhausting.
It's the factor that fans underestimate if they think and
idolize this lifestyle is all of the behind the scenes,
invisible work that it takes to show up. And if
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you've ever moved, it's like that every Sunday and Monday,
it's like that Sunday. You're taking everything that you have,
all of your systems that you've put in place, and
you're shoving it in bags and doing everything that you
can and to carry all the stuff with you, laundry, groceries, everything, shampoo,
to shart, all that stuff into a suitcase or bags
and then going to the next spot and figuring out
(30:10):
what your systems are.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Even people in.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Vans, it changes all the time. Where are you parking,
what's the weather, and all of these unknowns that get
revealed to you as you travel. So I get I
guess that kind of goes back to it's nice to
go to the same place a few times in a row.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And that's probably maybe why I'm looking forward to going
back to Waco and Elson. It's up bender before, so
I know a bit more about the city and what
to expect from it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But it's true because you think about showing up to
the course for practice, so you need clothes and shoes.
You had to have thought about that beforehand. That's very fun.
Everyone does that when they go to high school. Like
you get new clothes and shoes, Okay, then you get
your bag, you need your discs. That's very normal, still
very normal. You could do this tomorrow at the course
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that we have here. But then you need snacks. Where
do they come from? And what are they? And what
do you need? And do you need water? And where
are you going to store that? And where are you
cleaning that? And what are you putting your snacks in?
Do you need tuppleware and where's that coming from? And
then it's like you go back to your Airbnb and
it's all of these little systems, and it's why you
see pros at the beginning of the season bragging about
(31:29):
packing their cars and then you never see any content
from their cars for the rest of the tour because
it's just insanity. It's insane because if you get a
rain round, forget it.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Like then, yeah, I totally get why they're not showing
anything except from the start of the season every single time.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But on again, thanks so much for hanging out with
me and thanks for partying with us. This was cool.
I get to hear some insight from you. If you
guys want to follow Onikin she's on Instagram. You can
follow me on social media on Egan stand on Instagram
and TikTok, and now you too will start. I will
do my best, is what I'll say to actually do
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more content on YouTube this year, so bear with me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
If it's all weekly, I can't guarantee that, but you'll
I'll show up more there and there wills during this season.
You'll see some cool discs with my name on. I
can talk about it too much right now, but I
will make sure to post about it on social media
when a time is right.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well everyone go support Onakin and good luck at WAGO
Annual Charity Open. Thank you for listening to The Party
podcast and PanAm Macbeth, Christine Jennings and Cota Montgomery, produced
by me Panda Macbeth. For more information on our show,
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