May 7, 2025 • 52 mins
This episode is a full interview with Kristin Lätt prior to the conclusion of champions cup. In this episode Kristin gets candid on her feelings about her legacy, women specific course design, her apparel launch with iCourt and the details behind it, and her feelings about hole 18 at sprinkle valley. Come partee with us!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to The Party Podcast, a celebration of professional women's
discol with plenty of hot takes, fun stories, and fan questions.
I'm Hannah m macbeth, I'm Christine Jennings, I'm ConA Montgomery,
and we are the Party Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What is up, Party people? Hannah macbeth here on really
Chromy Beats Audio. Just wanting to do a little bit
of an intro for this episode. I was able to
sit down with Kristin Lett and just talk about everything
from her legacy to her feelings about course designed for
women and definitely her collection that she recently released with
(00:40):
I Court. They're amazing, and she talks about all of
it and all of the opportunity that she's had lately
and some not so great news too. It's a really
good conversation. I hope you enjoy it. And I just
kind of hit record while we were talking and then
carried the interview from there. So if it's a little
bit random, that's why. But I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Making it weird like they don't really understand, yeah, because
we're all out here to win, Like every single person
doesn't matter if you've won a lot or you've never won.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Before, like it's the same process for everyone. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Sometimes I feel like when they interview Paul, they do
so in a way that's if he's not winning, he's
like really losing, Whereas someone could come in and win
and then not be talked about for weeks and then
come in and like get third and then not you know,
and they're like, whoa, do you feel that pressure?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yet I do. I've felt it for a while. I mean,
obviously Paul is a bigger name, and he's been around
for so many more years than I have, and one
a lot more than I have. Yeah, But at the
same time, like I've been very very successful for the past,
like I don't know, for three whatever years. Yeah, and
(01:53):
I've been in the picture all the time. I've probably
been one of the most like consistent, yeah, sid player,
because I've always been like around that top three. Yeah.
And when I'm not winning, then I feel like I'm
doing something wrong at least people are telling that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And then when I'm winning, then they're like, oh my gosh,
somebody else should have won, like Silva should win. No, oh, well,
I know I do want her to win, but like
at the same time, I'm here to win. Well, I'm
not here to like throw the towel, and I'm much older,
so I have feel like faster. She has like twenty years,
twenty more years life out. Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, not twenty years older. Yeah, yeah, I know.
It's just lazy storytelling because you come in and you
start winning, and they want you to be this rookie,
and then you are and they're so stoked for you,
and then you win like a couple of years in
a row, and then they're like, she got second twice,
Oh my gosh, she's over.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh no, what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then, like you said, something unlucky will happen on
the course, and they're just that's why you can't really
pay attention. They just have to speculate for entertainment. And
it's just not your job to be entertaining. It's just
your job to win. You just have to stay in
your own lane.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
True.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I want to start with your announcement because I feel
like you've been talking about this for so long and
it finally happened. But your clothing line came out with
I Court, can you tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, it's something that has been cooking for a while,
and in my head it's been a dream for like years.
But with I Court, I've been working since last fall.
At first, when I came out with my custom made
polos in twenty twenty one, I did not have the
necessary finance to actually launch something. I know people were excited.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's right, because you did the cats polo and it
was one of one and that was the cutest thing
I've ever seen, and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Sometimes people still come up to me and talk about it.
So and I'm a big fan of like expressing myself
through my appearance and my clothing, so it's been always
close to my heart and something that they never really
imagined that I could do as a female athlete. But
(04:17):
now it's here, and I didn't want to just order
something from like Asia. I wanted to really like put
some thought into it and make something good. So I
found a company in Estonia who's making tennis clothes, and
(04:38):
they're really dedicated to doing comfortable clothing which looks good
and it's also ethically produced. So I feel like our
values really resonated. And I actually found out that they
also wanted to connect with me years ago, but I
didn't really get their email or I don't know, it
(04:58):
got lost somewhere. Now we connected when I guess I
was ready and I had the proper finance to do it,
and yeah, so everything is custom made. It aligns with
my brand, all the colors and patterns, and it's designed
for people who just want to look good and want
to feel comfortable and just elevate their game and mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And yeah, it's so important. I know we've done a
few posts on the party of outfits because I think
when you're shopping for women's golf, you can really go anywhere.
It's all over the spectrum. And so I've seen you
a few times posts from Naomi Osaka's brand so cute,
and I'm like so happy that it's not just some
(05:43):
random boutique that you got shorts or like a skirt
from while you're traveling. It's something that we can all get.
But now being able to do that yourself is so cool.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It is it is kind of surreal, to be honest, Like,
what's also exciting is that I court this founded by
four women, so we're all like women entrepreneurs, and I
don't know, I just feel very connected to this theme.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Thing's gonna have pockets because women need pockets.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh my gosh, pleasetely stop making clothes out pockets. I
also really appreciate the textiles that they're sourced ethically, because
that's a huge issue, and it's also frustrating when you
go try to source materials and it looks one way
and it comes in and the threads are coming loose
after one wash, or your logo is wearing away and
(06:36):
it's just not what you paid for. So that's really cool.
You did rebrand though, along with this, because you had KT,
you got married and I rk LOT, which is so fun.
What went into that changing your logo?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So I started developing a proper brand while I had
my old name mm hmm, and we already knew that
I was going to get married, but I wasn't sure
what to do with the name, and I always like
left it open. I knew that when we got married,
I couldn't change it right away because I didn't want
(07:13):
trouble crossing the borders. We had to leave for World
Championships right away. But once the season ended, I got
back home and I sort of like tried to feel
it should I change it or should I not change it,
like everybody knows me as Tata, but I don't know.
I felt like now that I'm married, I mean, I'm
(07:35):
the same person, but it still like shows respect for
my husband, and I really sort of wanted that change
for myself and also to show him that I'm like
committed to him in that way as well. I just
one morning, I woke up and I wrote to the
government of our city, and because we're like an e country,
(07:58):
we can do it all online. My name was changed
by lunchtime, and so it was all very sudden. It
was very quick. And then I told Silver, yeah, and
I changed my name. So I felt that it's the
right thing to do. And everybody who was working on
my brand, the team in New Way who put it
all together, they just changed the logo and I guess
(08:19):
they were like in the loop they knew it might happen.
But I mean, yeah, so it was all very quick.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
When you change your name in the US, you have
to go jump through so many hoops and prove who
you are so many times. It's not romantic like the
ALP was it. Wow, So how much of a say
because your apparel is your logo, how much of a
(08:47):
say did you have and was that your original idea
to just like rely heavy on your logo and instead
of doing other things that we've seen before.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, when we were working on developing a brand
for me, like the guidelines, we could lean on the
team and New Way. They came up with some ideas
for the clothing as well that I could see because
I was very straightforward that along with like new stamps,
(09:17):
I would also love to work on clothing line. So
I relied on their ideas a little bit, but eventually
I just went with what seemed comfortable in that moment.
So I did some changes, and we were working on
(09:37):
working with the designers from I Court as well to
really like think through the cuts and everything, not only
like the design or the appearance of the clothing line.
Definitely really oh that's fun. Yeah, what the New Ways
(09:57):
ideas were.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And this was like all of your dreams coming true
down to those little details.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I guess. I mean, I can see already things I
would love to work on, and I would love to
like continue doing more clothing lines. Just have to see
if there's a market for it. I'm not sure yet,
you know, And I would have loved to do it
even bigger and more like variety and options and colors,
(10:25):
et cetera. But I'm just the one, one person and
like financing it solo. And it's been really scary. Yeah, yeah,
like it was. It's been really really scary, like putting
like one, like a year's worth of salary into it.
It's like you don't know what's going to come out
of it. Because I'm the only disc golfer who has
(10:45):
done something like this, so there's no precedence for it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know Paul has done collapse before, but nothing like this. Yes,
is significant, I mean like very thorough. Yeah, this is
this is amazing. But I I thought we're saying with
Maria and she is such a funny point today where
she said that she doesn't think she's going to buy
the dress because she felt like if she wears the
(11:11):
dress and you're at the same tournament would just be
kind of silly. Hi, Kristin, I'm a huge fan, but
I disagree. I love that idea actually of just you
showing up to the tournament, you know, supportland that there's
like a FBO wearing your child. I just think that
would be great.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Of course, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I know, I
would love you to see it. I would love to
see it. D Yeah, and if you buy it, it's
not only that you get a great piece of garment
and a nice clothing item, but you're also supporting a
female disc golfer who is doing something new and trying
(11:52):
to be on the scene with something crazy out of
the box. I feel like it's like this doing something,
So yeah, if you like it, then definitely get it
to worry about, like wearing the same dress as we so.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I know, I agree. Well, you also did a signature
bag which is very nice and exciting, but I mean
sponsored by Latitude, so the bag is through them. Your
last name is Lot and I just feel like that's
perfect because you are shy, but I feel like you
have like, you know, like a little attitude, so it's
(12:32):
just perfect that your Christian Latitude.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, it's just excellent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I know there's so many puns that we can make,
like the Latitude attitude and all that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I know. I know, can you imagine there were people
who were angry that I changed my name, So I
feel like I'm more at home now.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's like your fan base. We called them the Tatar Talks.
Oh okay, which like wasn't great, but we enjoyed it
for the time being, and now it's like, what do
we call ourselves? So we have to rebrand?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, but that's great ye right, yeah, it's more fun.
You need some change from time to time. So yeah,
there's definitely more puns, like you say, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The bag, going back to that, what went into that
decision and the opportunity to behind that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, we've been talking about a signature bag with
Latitude for years and it hasn't happened yet, but we've
also been exchanging some ideas that the bags that we
had with Latitude they need some updates, especially the straps.
They were a little bit too thin, so now they're
(13:44):
more like padded, more comfortable. And along with the new bags,
we started talking again about the signature bag, and I thought,
this is great because I could now do something that
would match with my clothing line. You can, like it's
I'm just crazy about things matching, you know, So this
is so nice. I have the dark blue bag with
(14:05):
my k pattern again, and it matches with every clothing item.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I love that I have, so it's perfect.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Nice because your clothing items are neutral colors without being neutral.
They're not gray or black or white or tan. We've
seen that so much in women's sports because it's not
risky and they don't care. They just have the same
color blue. And then everything is green, now, which I
(14:34):
love green, but everything is green, and it's like, give
me a break. And so your stuff coming out is
very old, deep, but it's nice, like you can make
a statement with it, but it's professional.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I mean it's I do love something eye catchy
and bold, but at the same time not like too
over the top. Yeah. So yeah, I was trying to
figure out where the like the nies so that I
don't cross it. Yeah, I'm not sure if I did
a great job or not, but like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, I'm just glad it's not hot pink just right away,
because honestly, what is that. It's like this group of
men is sitting around in a boardroom and saying, what
do women want to wear on the golf course or
in hiking or whatever, and it's like, well, we did gray, black, white,
and navy blue, so let's do like lime green. Like so,
(15:28):
I really appreciate your clothing brand because it is nice
for everybody thank you. Well, I feel like you've been
making all these decisions and you haven't been interviewed, which
is insane because like what's going on, You've just been
making a lot of announcements. I'm like, where are her interviews?
(15:48):
Really grateful that you sat with me today.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, I mean I actually waited for somebody to contact me,
and then I was like I manifested this because I think,
like the next day you contacted me. But yeah, I'm
not big on like writing anyone and like trying to
like advertise or make announcements. Maybe I should do it more,
but yeah, it seems like people they like some drama
(16:14):
and they like to make news about everything else. But
I feel like, what's being close to my heart and
what's like being the biggest thing nobody has really asked
me about it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I do not like doing interviews online, Okay. I just
think it just doesn't feel human, and I feel like
we can't flow as well, Like it's hard to get
lost in a conversation through Skype. Yeah, unless you're like
super in love or you're like face timing and you're like,
I don't care that it's really easy, but no, I
(16:47):
just don't like it, so I wanted to wait, and
I knew that you were going to be here, so
I was like, Chris, dad, please one of the big
announcements that you made was your decision to part ways
with your agent. That's a significant decision because now all
of this falls on you and your team. Yes, I
think you called it like a significant learning curve.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Very steep.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Can you talk about that and then kind of the
business side that you've been learning about that no one
really knows.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah. I mean when he came on board, I was super,
super overwhelmed, but it happened very naturally, Like I wasn't
really looking for a manager or anybody, but it sort
of happened, and we both did not know what to
expect from it or I didn't even have like proper
(17:38):
guidelines for him what to do and what he should
like manage and et cetera. And he had never been
in that position before, so it was new for the
both of us, and I think we learned a lot
both during that journey. I think we did a lot
of good things together, but I feel like it was
(17:59):
mostly project based. But he was working for me full time,
and at one point I thought I didn't see a
point on having a person full time all the time
when there's like no like big projects going on, like
somebody being gone stand by all the time. Yeah, So
(18:20):
it was again very scary decision for me. I had
a lot of sleepless nights. But at the same time,
when it was done, I felt very excited and I'm
happy to be like back behind the wheel, having full control.
And I know now that if I do need help,
I will be better prepared to have certain guidelines or
(18:43):
I know how to direct that person or what sort
of help I need. So, yeah, it's been a huge
learning curve, like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You said it is, and there's not a lot of
people to go to that have done it before you. Yes,
everyone is doing different things. Men's disc golf. No one
is doing what you're doing because the opportunity wasn't there
for Paige and Katrina and val so they fell into
a lane that suited them and they're in that lane now.
(19:12):
But for you, you're very much paving the way for
some other women who will be in your position someday
and have decisions to make, and they'll be able to
go off of what you learn and do right and wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yes, I do feel like a pioneer, and sometimes it's
very very hard, Like it would be very much easier
just to just play disc golf and not do anything else,
but I don't want to do that. I want to
do something bigger. And there have been people who have
told me that this is male dominated sports and it's
(19:49):
not meant for women to do the same things that
the men are doing, and women will never do the
as big of steps as the men are doing. But
I just don't want to agree with that. So you
love that, Yeah, Yeah, I don't want to agree with that.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I don't receive that. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah. I feel like we can prove otherwise. We just
have to be open for it, and I feel like
everybody needs to be open for it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Do you feel that you have to do everything right
because there's that expectation of couldn't you just be happy
throwing the disk and winning? Do you feel pressure to
just do it right that maybe other people other men
don't have that they can fail and there's it didn't
work out, we'll try something else, But with you, it's
(20:34):
like this has to work.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I have felt that I need to put a lot
more effort into everything that I do, But at the
same time, I don't mind. I've always been a hard worker,
but I don't want this to be like this for
women always. So I do feel like we need a
change in the mindset, and the best way to do
it is by leading with an example. And so I'm
(20:58):
just hoping that maybe I can create a little bit
of a shift. But it's not the only reason why
I'm doing everything that I'm doing. I'm also doing it
because it just makes me happy. Because I was asking myself, like,
why am I doing such a risky move like creating
that clothing line, And it's not just like any clothing line.
(21:19):
It's custom made, and it's made in Estonia, which is
a very small country. So I'm doing it because it's
just it's awesome and it makes me happy. Whatever comes
out of it, even if I end up like losing money,
it's something that I can say in the future that
I at least tried. I put some effort into it,
(21:40):
and I really love doing it. And we're only living
one time, so might as well take all we can
out of it. Because I think when I'm in my
deathbed looking back, I think I'm not going to say,
oh gosh, why did I make that clothing line. No,
I will be happy that I tried.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah first, Yeah, I think as women we're expected to
be like teachers and nurturers and caregiver as athletic women.
It's so confusing because athletics doesn't demand that, It doesn't
demand those characteristics. Those are great characteristics to have, but
it doesn't give you anything to be like that. So
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the fact that you feel naturally inclined to be a
leader and you're comfortable with taking these risks, and you're
doing it in areas that you're passionate about, which is
the best. Yes, it's the only way to do it.
That's the only way you're going to do it right.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And care because I think don't have an ulterior motive
behind it. It truly is because I just like, genuinely
like this. Otherwise I would not put any effort into it.
Then I wouldn't do it anyway. But yeah, like you said,
I just remembered, like when I was growing up, nobody
told me like you could be a top athlete or
(22:57):
you could be a female entrepreneur and you could be
very successful at it. Like it was more like, okay,
you can, yeah, be a housewife, a mother, This is
very and.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
This is what is safe, and we will encourage you
to be in those things. Yeah, yeah, same, same, So I.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Don't mind any of it either.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, no, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
But just there's more options.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and I just think a lot of the women
listeners are nodding their heads because it is that way.
It's very strange to navigate even just the storylines of
women's discolf. When someone gets really fired up or their
competitive personality is just isolation. They isolate away from everyone
and you don't see them like kicking back on whole
one before they tee off, like being off to the side.
(23:46):
A lot of people can take that the wrong way
because there is like that expectation of why isn't she
hanging out with all the other women, why aren't they
laughing and having fun? And that expectation is on you
guys so much more than it is on my been
and the guys in the field.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
For sure, we should just do the rest of the
podcast on this top. In another thing, we want more pockets. Yeah,
but Estonia is a really small country, but they have
very big announcements regarding PDGA major The PDGA announced there
would be two possibly three major championships coming to Estonia.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Two major championships, one Pro two event and then world
I mean three yeah, World championships too.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Doug Bierkis said and the press release that they are
trying to approve these things way ahead of time because
like a year or two is not enough time to
get a team together and to build something. But it's
expected to happen on the Talins Song Festival grounds and
then potentially the Presidential Park, which so they didn't nobody
(24:55):
reached out to to be like, hey, guess what's happening.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean saying me and Matyas were working together. I
knew that there might be a possibility of some big
news breaking. I did not really like go into detail
what it's all about, but I assumed maybe world championships
are at the event that they're getting trying to get.
(25:21):
But yeah, I'm not really like connected with the team
in that way. They're a separate team, and yeah, I'm
not in the loop all the time, but I had
an assumption, so yeah, they asked me to be part
of the press conference, so I went up there and
that's when I found out everything.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
When you got there or I got there, no way. Yeah,
but you had kind of yeah, I had, Yeah, I
had the get there and you're sitting there and they're like,
Estonia is no longer participating in any PDJA events, and.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You're just like, what, it's like the opposite of what
you Yes, of course I had an idea. It wasn't
like a total surprise. I knew it. Yeah, I knew
it in a sense like a way before. Yeah, or
had an idea me being the captain of President's Cup team.
(26:16):
That was a total surprise. I didn't know anything about that,
and I have no connections or hand in that play.
Wasn't my idea, and I don't know why it was
presented that way or what was going on. But of
course I'm excited. Yeah, But I feel like Estonia has
a different kind of approach. They want to be sure
(26:38):
to have the big event for the upcoming years so
they can have like the financial support from different organizations,
I guess, and yeah, and they're just really passionate, passionate
about organizing events and they want to make it big
and more like fan friendly and put disc golfers on
a stage. I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. I had some of the best food I've ever
had at a disc golf tournament in Estonia last year
at the European Happy Thanks. Yeah, I know, you're just
what does it mean to you to be competing on
the song Festival grounds before nine?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It's when Estonia got free from Soviet Union. But yeah,
it holds a lot of significance, not only because of
this Song Festival, but I also won my first European
Championships there. It was very, very special. And I don't
even know what it will feel like to play World
(27:42):
Championships in Estonia. I would imagine it's way more pressure
than it is playing it here. I guess Finland probably
is a lot of pressure too.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's so interesting that I just love it so much.
And that's where it comes from, Yeah, because it's so
you just want to do right by it, and your
version of doing right by it isn't shining light on
your country and allowing the opportunity it's winning. You're like,
what if I lose? Yeah, I think Kristin, we're all
(28:15):
here because of you.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know, win guys. I mean it is a lot
of pressure, I'll be honest, Yeah, And but I try
not to worry now. I mean, it's in four years.
I don't even know. If I'm playing Possible.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Night and hold up a sign that says you've already won,
it's fine, Yes, I know you'll have it is amazing,
Like it'll just be a very large sign.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I mean, obviously it's
very special and it would be it will be fun
playing in front of the home crowd. Yeah, if I'm
playing disc golf in twenty twenty nine, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We'll get there when we get there. Well, okay, so
one thing that you said is that you got you
won your first European championship, and I remember the photos
from that and how emotional you were, which reminded me
how emotional you were at Sprinkle Valley this year. Yeah,
you were like the most beautiful crier of all time. Like,
(29:14):
how are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I don't know. First of all, I played that hole
very well during practice. I had like no scares in me, yeah,
stepping up to that hole, and I mean I knew
it was tougher than some of the holes on tour,
but like I didn't think too much about it. And
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then the number started to pile up and like I
don't know, and in your bag started to like, well,
I don't have enough discs in my bag. But yeah,
I mean I just was at one point I was
just sad. Yeah, I was like disappointed in myself. I know,
like after the tournament there were like people, Oh my gosh,
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every pro should like execute this shot and it's so easy.
It's only like this and that and and I understand
it is a short shot from the edge of the
ob to get to the island, but like people don't
understand that you have already competed for like I don't know,
four hours, because this took forever to finish, Like we
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waited even on the first hole. And I don't know
about you guys, like everybody who's listening, if you're playing
disc golf with cameras in your face all the time,
and just I don't know, this is like there's a
lot more and you're very vulnerable in that moment. And
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it just made me such they were trying to get
every angle of me.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well they did, and you looked great, Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I was like, oh no, period.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Although like no, I'm fine, I'm fine, It's okay. I mean,
when you have an emotion, you just have to let
it out. Then, and I mean I was fine, Like
half an hour later, it was all good, But yeah,
I was just disappointed in myself.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do you think of that hole?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Though?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Also, I'm really sorry the air conditioning just kicked on
and it's right next to you.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's okay, that's fine, Okay. I think it was a
little bit weird. It felt like somebody has put like
three different holes together. It's just my opinion. No, you're like, yeah,
I think it would have been a great hole if
it was a Part four and we had a basket
somewhere around the stairs, so we flew the first shot
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and then we tried to go through the trees to
get near the basket. I think Part five, in my eyes,
it didn't make a lot of sense. It was like
it felt forced. But I know that the locals have
played it forever and that's the type of hole that
they're used to, So I mean, I'm not judge.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean, you showed up and you did your job,
so nobody's yeah that year.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
But if I was easier course designer and it was
my course, I would not design it this way. Like
you can make very tough holes without doing it tough
in that way.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I get what you mean. We talked about that
and we had similar reactions where it was too much
of a risk and the chance of failure was too.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
High for it to be a good hole.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like it was blind. So if you're throwing and maybe
you get unlucky, but everything with your shot was good, yeah,
you don't even know, yeah, like exactly. And so people's
solution to that problem was to just completely skip over
it and just the throw as hard as you can
and crash in the back, which is dangerous and sad
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for all of your fans who are standing there like
she's throwing.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh god, it made too much of a difference. I mean,
for me, the worst part of it was just the
second landing zone. I think it was just too much trees, like,
it was too many. Ground was yeah, uneven, so it was.
It made it a little bit weird. So if it
would have been just flat ground and like open area,
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then it makes more sense. I know, people like compared
it to Nokia's whole sixteen, which is like nothing like
this because it's so open and you can throw wherever,
whereas in Sprinkle Valley, like you have to be very specific.
And it was super windy. I don't know if you
could tell it through camera, but it was super windy there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It was just a bad time on that whole.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, but a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think the concept isn't for n We've seen the
long part four us that you play through technical to
get to that good landing zone and then your reward
is that you can go to the green. They just
did that at whole eighteen at Olympus. But there's I
don't know, Yeah, it's too many variables for each shot. Yeah,
it's just too much that can go wrong for it
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to be considered a good design. Do you feel any
way about women's course design? Do you have any strong
takes or like things you've seen that you really appreciate
and things that you don't.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Feel like the course design has gotten better over the years.
I remember when I first came to the States, it
seemed like all the holes were like super short. I
just remember that, like and like, yeah, there were some
funny stuff that I just remembered. It was like they.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Would give the men their tea and then they would
just slap your tea like sixty feet in front of
it or like one hundred feet, and they'd be like,
well call it a day.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, so it yeah, very true, but it's gotten better
over the years, I feel like. But it depends on
the course.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, it depends on the course. There are some really
good courses, and there are some courses that I feel
like need some work, where like you said, they have
designed the men's side, but then they don't know what
to do with the women and they just make it
a little bit shorter. But it's not like the same
technical line. It's totally different. So I feel like we
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have to put some more thought into it to make
it more technical, to have like the same kind of
like shot shaping as the men do.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, you've hit some significant milestone seeing one thousand, one
thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Thank you given that. Do you feel any which way
about the world's courses, because I know those are a
UC design and he designs really hard.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And I like the way you see things, like the
way that the hard that he has for the course
versus like put ob everywhere and then like trees and
wind and like any even ground.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You see that so often in the US, like oh
well the terrain is uneven and we'll put a bunch
of ob around and yes, okay, we're done. Yeah, where
you see is much more thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, there's like more technicality to it. And I like
the way the world this year's World's courses are hard
and difficult and challenging, but at the same time, if
you play well, you'll be scoring very well. There's not
like too many luck factors in there. What I hate
the most in course design is where you sort of
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like need to be lucky or you can't get lucky.
Of course, you can always be lucky and unlucky. It
can always happen, but like, at least you're trying to
take the variables out of it, because I see it
sometimes where there's like a perfect fair way, but there
are like two weird trees in the middle of it,
so you have to like navigate around it. So like
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there could be two similar shots and one hits the
tree and one doesn't hit the tree.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. How does having
silver on your bag help you navigate all of those courses?
The reason I'm asking is because when we're talking about
Holy eighteena Sprinkle Valley, you were visibly shaken before throwing
an approach shot, and just in general, on the whole,
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like as you are nearing the end, and you could
see him just like hug you. If you study responses
to anxiety and the body, that physical touch and the
pressure can relieve so much stress and anxiety. So I
was like what I like, It was like very crist moment.
But it also having a caddy can really really change
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your tournament.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I mean Silver has probably been the biggest support
throughout my career because there have been times where he
believes in me more than I do. And I feel
like it's what it was thanks to his push that
I made it to the US at all. I would
have just been fine playing in Estonia occasionally.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Keep going I'm gonna turn on a light.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah but.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
But but he really pushed me to get out there,
and he always told me that you can, you can
be the best, and you can compete with the best.
And I feel like he knows my game the most,
and he also knows me the best, so he knows
when to tell something and when to keep his mouth shut.
Because most of the time I know what to do.
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Sometimes I just need to confirm, like I have to
say it out loud, okay, am I throwing like I'm
throwing the rivee here or I'm throwing the grace here,
and he will be like nodding or something.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Is that like your way of processing it?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yes, okay, And then I'm like okay, this like answer
is locked in and now I'm gonna like do it.
So it's sometimes like it helps me or discussing something
when I'm really torn or in between. But most of
the time it's just him being there. It helps me already,
like he doesn't have to do anything. Yeah, but I feel, Yeah,
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I feel very comfortable with him. And I was talking
to the girls today that I don't really have Caddy
set often, like no, I do, I have silver. I
would feel more stressful with somebody else because I don't
know how they will behave and it would create anxiety.
But with him, I already know, like what's going on,
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how is our routine? So this is what makes me
more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
There's so many things in disc golf that are out
of your control, so having those key factors every day
that you can control is very important. You have to
have something that's regular, otherwise it's too I don't want
to say chaotic, because Kaotik can be a good refining experience,
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and it can be a good learning experience, So you
don't want to just always equate it to negative. But
you have to establish a rhythm and having him is
part of your rhythm.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yes, yes, I would say so. I mean may there
there are possibly more people I can trust, of course,
but it's just.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
All right, I'll carry your bag.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I don't want to be that picky, but yeah, I'm
not one of those players who just pick somebody out
from the crowd. I know that there are people who
like to do that or give the opportunity, but for
me personally, it just creates internal stress. Like I don't
know why, but it's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Would you, well, you're introverted.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Very Yeah, yeah that's why. I guess that's probably it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
If I had to get Yeah you have to small
talk with someone new for four hours.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, it just creates stress. It could be the nicest person.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I have learned that this week. I feel like I've
mastered that this week because we're staying in an airbnb
with Maria, who's a Stonian. She is significantly more chatty
now than she has been. Doesn't make it more positive
or negative, but it's just this you know a fact.
But Silva and her sister are totally chill, just not talking. Yes,
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And so with me, I think motherhood has changed me
because same. Yeah, like I'm tired, i have problem solving
a lot of things, and I'm trying to decide what
we're doing in three hours and how I need to
get prepared for that. So if you just want to
come in and be on your phone and eat a
bowl of whatever you made, great.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes, and I can relate to that. I'm totally fine
sitting in silence.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, But previously I would have felt away, really I would, Yeah,
because it's as an American there is an expect that
not having small talk is rude. Oh yeah, and I
think I think it's to just I mean, you board
a train or you get in the car with someone
and you say hi, how are you Are you past
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someone in the street and you're like, hey, how's it going,
and there's always a recognition, and then depending on the relation,
you can keep going or not. And that's how we
get stuck because some of us are like, that's it
for me. I said, Hey, I'm going to go about
my business, and then some of us are like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
So glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Can you tell me about your day? Like how are you?
And how do you feel about that? And so now
I'm on the same vibe.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Well, in Estonia it's rude to be too chatty, so
it's the opposite.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I know, and in Finland as well, one does like it's.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
More appropriate to be silent. I'm not to chat with somebody,
it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
ConA had sent me a few questions for you as
we close. If you want to chance to partner with
a shoe company, who would it be and who's your faith?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Well, I'm partnered with Nike. I wear their shoes, and
even before the sponsorship, I was wearing Nike shoes and
I feel like they're the most comfortable and trusty.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
I guess is Nike. It's Nike Estonia. Yes, like a
huge yes, Yeah, that's huge, I mean that's huge.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And then I thought you were only sponsored by Nike
by their sports bras. No, what is that in collaboration about?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That was just because they had some the new line
came out and they wanted to make a big ad, okay,
and I was a part of it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
So you were part of this ad and you are
I mean gorgeous and silver is gorgeous. And you guys
were not a part of your branding for your collection,
and I am so, I mean you were right there.
They just used these models, probably through an agency that
they have a deal with. But like I just throw
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a slipper up there, didn't he used to model?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Like what's yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I mean it's not just me, there's there was a
lot of people in disc golf that were like, why
did you they do it? They're beautiful people.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh well, thank you. I we didn't think we're beautiful
enough to do it. Like that was the reason why
we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's why. Yes, literally you need me on your team.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, but we're probably gonna do some videos and a
shoot together as well. But the shoot that we did
do happened while I was in Texas, so to get
the photos for the web store and everything. And yeah,
but I feel like maybe it would have been the
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better move to do it ourselves.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Have Do you think that you are like a beautiful woman?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
I try, Okay, I try.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like you look in the mirror and you're like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Pretty, you know. As I've been on like this growth
journey and like getting older, and more content with myself.
Then I understand that this is the attitude that everybody
should have, you know, But I've grown up the opposite.
I've grown up to see only flaws and what I
can make better. So I've been really learning how to
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love myself. I feel like I'm in a place where
I do love myself, but occasionally I do think, like,
oh my gosh, I see it's some fixing and this
and that. But like, but yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
We're always our first critics.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
We're all but I'm trying to really like love myself
and like be happy with myself, but also work on myself.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, healthy balance. That blows me away. When you said, yeah,
we did think we were beautiful enough, I couldn't even speak.
There were so many people that I've talked to that
I was like, yeah, I wonder why Kristen and Silver
They were like, that's what I'm saying, why didn't they
do it? So that's good that you're gonna get a
chance to do that. Okay, So Nike would be your
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favorite shoe. What's the coolest gift a fan has ever
given you?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
That puts a lot of pressure on me because now
everybody who has ever gifted me anything, they're like.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Who is obviously listening to this podcast?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
They're all listening, They're all tuned in. I think I
can't pick out the favorite and given.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I guess named some things that you've been given.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Been given some like jewelry like self made, which is
very very cute, some good luck tokens like different Okay,
today I was given a book, yes, about disc golf.
It was by the author himself, that networking. And I've
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been given discs like yeah with dies and different kind
of stuff. And I've been given some cute drawings by children,
which is always very cute. Like self made stuff is
the best gift, I feel like because I can feel
the energy of the gifts I made.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I got really sick. So I made friendship bracelets for people,
and ConA passed them out and we made like a
little TikTok about.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
It's very cute. I was really proud of that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I agree. I think homemade gifts aret something that someone
really spent time on.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yes, it means feeling.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, what layout do you like more this weekend? A
or B? Do you even know the difference?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I mean, I mean, now I didn't know it before
the tournament. When I played the tournament round than I
could understand which layout is which I think I think
I will. I don't even know. There are good baskets
on both layouts, and there are some baskets that I'm
happy I don't have to play. Like Whole six with
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the mandatory is like, it's always so weird when there
there's like an empty field and in the middle of
the field there are some mandatory trees. Like if it
would be a fair way in the woods, I feel
like for me, it would be easier to throw a
straight line or like a heiser, but when it's like
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in the field, for me, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
You feel that way. Whole seven at throw pink with
the bamboo.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
That's also weird. So it's weird.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
If it was just wide open and there was no
mando and they were like you have to go straight
for it, you would hit it every time. But then
once there you're.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Like, hey, I don't know what to do anymore. I
keep hitting.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
It, yes, the same way, like yeah six here, yeah, well, gosh,
I think we covered let's see. Oh. I wanted to
highlight as the last thing I missed in my notes
I should have asked you earlier.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I mean, this is an idea that had been
cooking in my mind for a while, and I talked
to about it early January to sort of make an
announcement and like a form for tds to fill out
and then we could like send out some care packages.
But I mean he never got around to it, and
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then he left, and when I came back from my
first stretch, I thought, why not do it right now,
because I mean, there are some women's events coming up,
And then I was like, I want to do it
now so the packages can get to women and to
the tds. So yeah, I mean it was kind of
random because I just did a very quick announcement in
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my stories, but there were like I think forty or
over forty people who responded or asked for support, and
even prior to that, people sometimes like email me and
ask if I can support their events. So I ended
up sending out packages to like fifteen different countries and
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there actually was over twenty of them all together. Yea, yeah,
and I'm happy that I could do my little part.
Hopefully some players will be happy, and I would love
for this to be a yearly thing, so I will
be doing this every year. Yeah, I guess every Like
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all the big players, they have like their thing, you know,
Paul has his foundation and Ricky has his thing, and
I was like, I don't really have my thing, but
I would really love to support women and I want
to like be more comfortable playing disc golf and have
the courage to take part of events and be happy
doing it. And if it's through some merch like supporting
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them and giving out some inspiration, and it's already a
big step for me.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
You've afforded us so much of your time. I really
appreciate it. It's just nice to hear your breakdown of
a lot of the decisions and changes that you've experienced
over the last few months. What a perfect time for
change because it's spring, What a perfect time for growth.
Do not want to keep you another minute because you
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have a major, but I just really appreciate what you
do for the sport. Your fans really appreciate you, and
it's just excellent to hear you. So I really am
grateful that you came on our little tiny show to
talk to us. It's just clear your passion for the
sport and for women's disc golf. It's very inspiring how
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you are championing both making an attempt.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
To do both. Thank you so much. I appreciate it,
and it truly means a lot to be noticed in
that kind of way. I'm not doing it to be noticed.
I'm just trying to do my I truly appreciate you
having me here and wanting to hear my thoughts. So
thank you for giving me this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Aside from how is your round today? How did you
feel about your round today? How are you feeling about
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
What is up, Party people? Hannah macbeth here on really
Chromy Beats Audio. Just wanting to do a little bit
of an intro for this episode. I was able to
sit down with Kristin Lett and just talk about everything
from her legacy to her feelings about course designed for
women and definitely her collection that she recently released with
(00:40):
I Court. They're amazing, and she talks about all of
it and all of the opportunity that she's had lately
and some not so great news too. It's a really
good conversation. I hope you enjoy it. And I just
kind of hit record while we were talking and then
carried the interview from there. So if it's a little
bit random, that's why. But I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Making it weird like they don't really understand, yeah, because
we're all out here to win, Like every single person
doesn't matter if you've won a lot or you've never won.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Before, like it's the same process for everyone. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Sometimes I feel like when they interview Paul, they do
so in a way that's if he's not winning, he's
like really losing, Whereas someone could come in and win
and then not be talked about for weeks and then
come in and like get third and then not you know,
and they're like, whoa, do you feel that pressure?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yet I do. I've felt it for a while. I mean,
obviously Paul is a bigger name, and he's been around
for so many more years than I have, and one
a lot more than I have. Yeah, But at the
same time, like I've been very very successful for the past,
like I don't know, for three whatever years. Yeah, and
(01:53):
I've been in the picture all the time. I've probably
been one of the most like consistent, yeah, sid player,
because I've always been like around that top three. Yeah.
And when I'm not winning, then I feel like I'm
doing something wrong at least people are telling that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And then when I'm winning, then they're like, oh my gosh,
somebody else should have won, like Silva should win. No, oh, well,
I know I do want her to win, but like
at the same time, I'm here to win. Well, I'm
not here to like throw the towel, and I'm much older,
so I have feel like faster. She has like twenty years,
twenty more years life out. Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, not twenty years older. Yeah, yeah, I know.
It's just lazy storytelling because you come in and you
start winning, and they want you to be this rookie,
and then you are and they're so stoked for you,
and then you win like a couple of years in
a row, and then they're like, she got second twice,
Oh my gosh, she's over.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh no, what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then, like you said, something unlucky will happen on
the course, and they're just that's why you can't really
pay attention. They just have to speculate for entertainment. And
it's just not your job to be entertaining. It's just
your job to win. You just have to stay in
your own lane.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
True.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I want to start with your announcement because I feel
like you've been talking about this for so long and
it finally happened. But your clothing line came out with
I Court, can you tell me about it?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, it's something that has been cooking for a while,
and in my head it's been a dream for like years.
But with I Court, I've been working since last fall.
At first, when I came out with my custom made
polos in twenty twenty one, I did not have the
necessary finance to actually launch something. I know people were excited.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's right, because you did the cats polo and it
was one of one and that was the cutest thing
I've ever seen, and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Sometimes people still come up to me and talk about it.
So and I'm a big fan of like expressing myself
through my appearance and my clothing, so it's been always
close to my heart and something that they never really
imagined that I could do as a female athlete. But
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now it's here, and I didn't want to just order
something from like Asia. I wanted to really like put
some thought into it and make something good. So I
found a company in Estonia who's making tennis clothes, and
(04:38):
they're really dedicated to doing comfortable clothing which looks good
and it's also ethically produced. So I feel like our
values really resonated. And I actually found out that they
also wanted to connect with me years ago, but I
didn't really get their email or I don't know, it
(04:58):
got lost somewhere. Now we connected when I guess I
was ready and I had the proper finance to do it,
and yeah, so everything is custom made. It aligns with
my brand, all the colors and patterns, and it's designed
for people who just want to look good and want
to feel comfortable and just elevate their game and mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And yeah, it's so important. I know we've done a
few posts on the party of outfits because I think
when you're shopping for women's golf, you can really go anywhere.
It's all over the spectrum. And so I've seen you
a few times posts from Naomi Osaka's brand so cute,
and I'm like so happy that it's not just some
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random boutique that you got shorts or like a skirt
from while you're traveling. It's something that we can all get.
But now being able to do that yourself is so cool.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It is it is kind of surreal, to be honest, Like,
what's also exciting is that I court this founded by
four women, so we're all like women entrepreneurs, and I
don't know, I just feel very connected to this theme.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Thing's gonna have pockets because women need pockets.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh my gosh, pleasetely stop making clothes out pockets. I
also really appreciate the textiles that they're sourced ethically, because
that's a huge issue, and it's also frustrating when you
go try to source materials and it looks one way
and it comes in and the threads are coming loose
after one wash, or your logo is wearing away and
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it's just not what you paid for. So that's really cool.
You did rebrand though, along with this, because you had KT,
you got married and I rk LOT, which is so fun.
What went into that changing your logo?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So I started developing a proper brand while I had
my old name mm hmm, and we already knew that
I was going to get married, but I wasn't sure
what to do with the name, and I always like
left it open. I knew that when we got married,
I couldn't change it right away because I didn't want
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trouble crossing the borders. We had to leave for World
Championships right away. But once the season ended, I got
back home and I sort of like tried to feel
it should I change it or should I not change it,
like everybody knows me as Tata, but I don't know.
I felt like now that I'm married, I mean, I'm
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the same person, but it still like shows respect for
my husband, and I really sort of wanted that change
for myself and also to show him that I'm like
committed to him in that way as well. I just
one morning, I woke up and I wrote to the
government of our city, and because we're like an e country,
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we can do it all online. My name was changed
by lunchtime, and so it was all very sudden. It
was very quick. And then I told Silver, yeah, and
I changed my name. So I felt that it's the
right thing to do. And everybody who was working on
my brand, the team in New Way who put it
all together, they just changed the logo and I guess
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they were like in the loop they knew it might happen.
But I mean, yeah, so it was all very quick.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
When you change your name in the US, you have
to go jump through so many hoops and prove who
you are so many times. It's not romantic like the
ALP was it. Wow, So how much of a say
because your apparel is your logo, how much of a
(08:47):
say did you have and was that your original idea
to just like rely heavy on your logo and instead
of doing other things that we've seen before.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, when we were working on developing a brand
for me, like the guidelines, we could lean on the
team and New Way. They came up with some ideas
for the clothing as well that I could see because
I was very straightforward that along with like new stamps,
(09:17):
I would also love to work on clothing line. So
I relied on their ideas a little bit, but eventually
I just went with what seemed comfortable in that moment.
So I did some changes, and we were working on
(09:37):
working with the designers from I Court as well to
really like think through the cuts and everything, not only
like the design or the appearance of the clothing line.
Definitely really oh that's fun. Yeah, what the New Ways
(09:57):
ideas were.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And this was like all of your dreams coming true
down to those little details.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I guess. I mean, I can see already things I
would love to work on, and I would love to
like continue doing more clothing lines. Just have to see
if there's a market for it. I'm not sure yet,
you know, And I would have loved to do it
even bigger and more like variety and options and colors,
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et cetera. But I'm just the one, one person and
like financing it solo. And it's been really scary. Yeah, yeah,
like it was. It's been really really scary, like putting
like one, like a year's worth of salary into it.
It's like you don't know what's going to come out
of it. Because I'm the only disc golfer who has
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done something like this, so there's no precedence for it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know Paul has done collapse before, but nothing like this. Yes,
is significant, I mean like very thorough. Yeah, this is
this is amazing. But I I thought we're saying with
Maria and she is such a funny point today where
she said that she doesn't think she's going to buy
the dress because she felt like if she wears the
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dress and you're at the same tournament would just be
kind of silly. Hi, Kristin, I'm a huge fan, but
I disagree. I love that idea actually of just you
showing up to the tournament, you know, supportland that there's
like a FBO wearing your child. I just think that
would be great.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Of course, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I know, I
would love you to see it. I would love to
see it. D Yeah, and if you buy it, it's
not only that you get a great piece of garment
and a nice clothing item, but you're also supporting a
female disc golfer who is doing something new and trying
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to be on the scene with something crazy out of
the box. I feel like it's like this doing something,
So yeah, if you like it, then definitely get it
to worry about, like wearing the same dress as we so.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I know, I agree. Well, you also did a signature
bag which is very nice and exciting, but I mean
sponsored by Latitude, so the bag is through them. Your
last name is Lot and I just feel like that's
perfect because you are shy, but I feel like you
have like, you know, like a little attitude, so it's
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just perfect that your Christian Latitude.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, it's just excellent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I know there's so many puns that we can make,
like the Latitude attitude and all that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I know. I know, can you imagine there were people
who were angry that I changed my name, So I
feel like I'm more at home now.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's like your fan base. We called them the Tatar Talks.
Oh okay, which like wasn't great, but we enjoyed it
for the time being, and now it's like, what do
we call ourselves? So we have to rebrand?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, but that's great ye right, yeah, it's more fun.
You need some change from time to time. So yeah,
there's definitely more puns, like you say, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The bag, going back to that, what went into that
decision and the opportunity to behind that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, we've been talking about a signature bag with
Latitude for years and it hasn't happened yet, but we've
also been exchanging some ideas that the bags that we
had with Latitude they need some updates, especially the straps.
They were a little bit too thin, so now they're
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more like padded, more comfortable. And along with the new bags,
we started talking again about the signature bag, and I thought,
this is great because I could now do something that
would match with my clothing line. You can, like it's
I'm just crazy about things matching, you know, So this
is so nice. I have the dark blue bag with
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my k pattern again, and it matches with every clothing item.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I love that I have, so it's perfect.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Nice because your clothing items are neutral colors without being neutral.
They're not gray or black or white or tan. We've
seen that so much in women's sports because it's not
risky and they don't care. They just have the same
color blue. And then everything is green, now, which I
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love green, but everything is green, and it's like, give
me a break. And so your stuff coming out is
very old, deep, but it's nice, like you can make
a statement with it, but it's professional.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I mean it's I do love something eye catchy
and bold, but at the same time not like too
over the top. Yeah. So yeah, I was trying to
figure out where the like the nies so that I
don't cross it. Yeah, I'm not sure if I did
a great job or not, but like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, I'm just glad it's not hot pink just right away,
because honestly, what is that. It's like this group of
men is sitting around in a boardroom and saying, what
do women want to wear on the golf course or
in hiking or whatever, and it's like, well, we did gray, black, white,
and navy blue, so let's do like lime green. Like so,
(15:28):
I really appreciate your clothing brand because it is nice
for everybody thank you. Well, I feel like you've been
making all these decisions and you haven't been interviewed, which
is insane because like what's going on, You've just been
making a lot of announcements. I'm like, where are her interviews?
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Really grateful that you sat with me today.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, I mean I actually waited for somebody to contact me,
and then I was like I manifested this because I think,
like the next day you contacted me. But yeah, I'm
not big on like writing anyone and like trying to
like advertise or make announcements. Maybe I should do it more,
but yeah, it seems like people they like some drama
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and they like to make news about everything else. But
I feel like, what's being close to my heart and
what's like being the biggest thing nobody has really asked
me about it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I do not like doing interviews online, Okay. I just
think it just doesn't feel human, and I feel like
we can't flow as well, Like it's hard to get
lost in a conversation through Skype. Yeah, unless you're like
super in love or you're like face timing and you're like,
I don't care that it's really easy, but no, I
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just don't like it, so I wanted to wait, and
I knew that you were going to be here, so
I was like, Chris, dad, please one of the big
announcements that you made was your decision to part ways
with your agent. That's a significant decision because now all
of this falls on you and your team. Yes, I
think you called it like a significant learning curve.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Very steep.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Can you talk about that and then kind of the
business side that you've been learning about that no one
really knows.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah. I mean when he came on board, I was super,
super overwhelmed, but it happened very naturally, Like I wasn't
really looking for a manager or anybody, but it sort
of happened, and we both did not know what to
expect from it or I didn't even have like proper
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guidelines for him what to do and what he should
like manage and et cetera. And he had never been
in that position before, so it was new for the
both of us, and I think we learned a lot
both during that journey. I think we did a lot
of good things together, but I feel like it was
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mostly project based. But he was working for me full time,
and at one point I thought I didn't see a
point on having a person full time all the time
when there's like no like big projects going on, like
somebody being gone stand by all the time. Yeah, So
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it was again very scary decision for me. I had
a lot of sleepless nights. But at the same time,
when it was done, I felt very excited and I'm
happy to be like back behind the wheel, having full control.
And I know now that if I do need help,
I will be better prepared to have certain guidelines or
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I know how to direct that person or what sort
of help I need. So, yeah, it's been a huge
learning curve, like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You said it is, and there's not a lot of
people to go to that have done it before you. Yes,
everyone is doing different things. Men's disc golf. No one
is doing what you're doing because the opportunity wasn't there
for Paige and Katrina and val so they fell into
a lane that suited them and they're in that lane now.
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But for you, you're very much paving the way for
some other women who will be in your position someday
and have decisions to make, and they'll be able to
go off of what you learn and do right and wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yes, I do feel like a pioneer, and sometimes it's
very very hard, Like it would be very much easier
just to just play disc golf and not do anything else,
but I don't want to do that. I want to
do something bigger. And there have been people who have
told me that this is male dominated sports and it's
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not meant for women to do the same things that
the men are doing, and women will never do the
as big of steps as the men are doing. But
I just don't want to agree with that. So you
love that, Yeah, Yeah, I don't want to agree with that.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I don't receive that. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah. I feel like we can prove otherwise. We just
have to be open for it, and I feel like
everybody needs to be open for it.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Do you feel that you have to do everything right
because there's that expectation of couldn't you just be happy
throwing the disk and winning? Do you feel pressure to
just do it right that maybe other people other men
don't have that they can fail and there's it didn't
work out, we'll try something else, But with you, it's
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like this has to work.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I have felt that I need to put a lot
more effort into everything that I do, But at the
same time, I don't mind. I've always been a hard worker,
but I don't want this to be like this for
women always. So I do feel like we need a
change in the mindset, and the best way to do
it is by leading with an example. And so I'm
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just hoping that maybe I can create a little bit
of a shift. But it's not the only reason why
I'm doing everything that I'm doing. I'm also doing it
because it just makes me happy. Because I was asking myself, like,
why am I doing such a risky move like creating
that clothing line, And it's not just like any clothing line.
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It's custom made, and it's made in Estonia, which is
a very small country. So I'm doing it because it's
just it's awesome and it makes me happy. Whatever comes
out of it, even if I end up like losing money,
it's something that I can say in the future that
I at least tried. I put some effort into it,
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and I really love doing it. And we're only living
one time, so might as well take all we can
out of it. Because I think when I'm in my
deathbed looking back, I think I'm not going to say,
oh gosh, why did I make that clothing line. No,
I will be happy that I tried.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah first, Yeah, I think as women we're expected to
be like teachers and nurturers and caregiver as athletic women.
It's so confusing because athletics doesn't demand that, It doesn't
demand those characteristics. Those are great characteristics to have, but
it doesn't give you anything to be like that. So
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the fact that you feel naturally inclined to be a
leader and you're comfortable with taking these risks, and you're
doing it in areas that you're passionate about, which is
the best. Yes, it's the only way to do it.
That's the only way you're going to do it right.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And care because I think don't have an ulterior motive
behind it. It truly is because I just like, genuinely
like this. Otherwise I would not put any effort into it.
Then I wouldn't do it anyway. But yeah, like you said,
I just remembered, like when I was growing up, nobody
told me like you could be a top athlete or
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you could be a female entrepreneur and you could be
very successful at it. Like it was more like, okay,
you can, yeah, be a housewife, a mother, This is
very and.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
This is what is safe, and we will encourage you
to be in those things. Yeah, yeah, same, same, So I.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Don't mind any of it either.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, no, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
But just there's more options.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and I just think a lot of the women
listeners are nodding their heads because it is that way.
It's very strange to navigate even just the storylines of
women's discolf. When someone gets really fired up or their
competitive personality is just isolation. They isolate away from everyone
and you don't see them like kicking back on whole
one before they tee off, like being off to the side.
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A lot of people can take that the wrong way
because there is like that expectation of why isn't she
hanging out with all the other women, why aren't they
laughing and having fun? And that expectation is on you
guys so much more than it is on my been
and the guys in the field.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
For sure, we should just do the rest of the
podcast on this top. In another thing, we want more pockets. Yeah,
but Estonia is a really small country, but they have
very big announcements regarding PDGA major The PDGA announced there
would be two possibly three major championships coming to Estonia.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Two major championships, one Pro two event and then world
I mean three yeah, World championships too.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Doug Bierkis said and the press release that they are
trying to approve these things way ahead of time because
like a year or two is not enough time to
get a team together and to build something. But it's
expected to happen on the Talins Song Festival grounds and
then potentially the Presidential Park, which so they didn't nobody
(24:55):
reached out to to be like, hey, guess what's happening.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I mean saying me and Matyas were working together. I
knew that there might be a possibility of some big
news breaking. I did not really like go into detail
what it's all about, but I assumed maybe world championships
are at the event that they're getting trying to get.
(25:21):
But yeah, I'm not really like connected with the team
in that way. They're a separate team, and yeah, I'm
not in the loop all the time, but I had
an assumption, so yeah, they asked me to be part
of the press conference, so I went up there and
that's when I found out everything.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
When you got there or I got there, no way. Yeah,
but you had kind of yeah, I had, Yeah, I
had the get there and you're sitting there and they're like,
Estonia is no longer participating in any PDJA events, and.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You're just like, what, it's like the opposite of what
you Yes, of course I had an idea. It wasn't
like a total surprise. I knew it. Yeah, I knew
it in a sense like a way before. Yeah, or
had an idea me being the captain of President's Cup team.
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That was a total surprise. I didn't know anything about that,
and I have no connections or hand in that play.
Wasn't my idea, and I don't know why it was
presented that way or what was going on. But of
course I'm excited. Yeah, But I feel like Estonia has
a different kind of approach. They want to be sure
(26:38):
to have the big event for the upcoming years so
they can have like the financial support from different organizations,
I guess, and yeah, and they're just really passionate, passionate
about organizing events and they want to make it big
and more like fan friendly and put disc golfers on
a stage. I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. I had some of the best food I've ever
had at a disc golf tournament in Estonia last year
at the European Happy Thanks. Yeah, I know, you're just
what does it mean to you to be competing on
the song Festival grounds before nine?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It's when Estonia got free from Soviet Union. But yeah,
it holds a lot of significance, not only because of
this Song Festival, but I also won my first European
Championships there. It was very, very special. And I don't
even know what it will feel like to play World
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Championships in Estonia. I would imagine it's way more pressure
than it is playing it here. I guess Finland probably
is a lot of pressure too.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's so interesting that I just love it so much.
And that's where it comes from, Yeah, because it's so
you just want to do right by it, and your
version of doing right by it isn't shining light on
your country and allowing the opportunity it's winning. You're like,
what if I lose? Yeah, I think Kristin, we're all
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here because of you.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know, win guys. I mean it is a lot
of pressure, I'll be honest, Yeah, And but I try
not to worry now. I mean, it's in four years.
I don't even know. If I'm playing Possible.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Night and hold up a sign that says you've already won,
it's fine, Yes, I know you'll have it is amazing,
Like it'll just be a very large sign.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I mean, obviously it's
very special and it would be it will be fun
playing in front of the home crowd. Yeah, if I'm
playing disc golf in twenty twenty nine, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We'll get there when we get there. Well, okay, so
one thing that you said is that you got you
won your first European championship, and I remember the photos
from that and how emotional you were, which reminded me
how emotional you were at Sprinkle Valley this year. Yeah,
you were like the most beautiful crier of all time. Like,
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how are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I don't know. First of all, I played that hole
very well during practice. I had like no scares in me, yeah,
stepping up to that hole, and I mean I knew
it was tougher than some of the holes on tour,
but like I didn't think too much about it. And
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then the number started to pile up and like I
don't know, and in your bag started to like, well,
I don't have enough discs in my bag. But yeah,
I mean I just was at one point I was
just sad. Yeah, I was like disappointed in myself. I know,
like after the tournament there were like people, Oh my gosh,
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every pro should like execute this shot and it's so easy.
It's only like this and that and and I understand
it is a short shot from the edge of the
ob to get to the island, but like people don't
understand that you have already competed for like I don't know,
four hours, because this took forever to finish, Like we
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waited even on the first hole. And I don't know
about you guys, like everybody who's listening, if you're playing
disc golf with cameras in your face all the time,
and just I don't know, this is like there's a
lot more and you're very vulnerable in that moment. And
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it just made me such they were trying to get
every angle of me.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Well they did, and you looked great, Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I was like, oh no, period.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Although like no, I'm fine, I'm fine, It's okay. I mean,
when you have an emotion, you just have to let
it out. Then, and I mean I was fine, Like
half an hour later, it was all good, But yeah,
I was just disappointed in myself.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do you think of that hole?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Though?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Also, I'm really sorry the air conditioning just kicked on
and it's right next to you.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's okay, that's fine, Okay. I think it was a
little bit weird. It felt like somebody has put like
three different holes together. It's just my opinion. No, you're like, yeah,
I think it would have been a great hole if
it was a Part four and we had a basket
somewhere around the stairs, so we flew the first shot
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and then we tried to go through the trees to
get near the basket. I think Part five, in my eyes,
it didn't make a lot of sense. It was like
it felt forced. But I know that the locals have
played it forever and that's the type of hole that
they're used to, So I mean, I'm not judge.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean, you showed up and you did your job,
so nobody's yeah that year.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
But if I was easier course designer and it was
my course, I would not design it this way. Like
you can make very tough holes without doing it tough
in that way.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I get what you mean. We talked about that
and we had similar reactions where it was too much
of a risk and the chance of failure was too.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
High for it to be a good hole.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like it was blind. So if you're throwing and maybe
you get unlucky, but everything with your shot was good, yeah,
you don't even know, yeah, like exactly. And so people's
solution to that problem was to just completely skip over
it and just the throw as hard as you can
and crash in the back, which is dangerous and sad
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for all of your fans who are standing there like
she's throwing.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh god, it made too much of a difference. I mean,
for me, the worst part of it was just the
second landing zone. I think it was just too much trees, like,
it was too many. Ground was yeah, uneven, so it was.
It made it a little bit weird. So if it
would have been just flat ground and like open area,
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then it makes more sense. I know, people like compared
it to Nokia's whole sixteen, which is like nothing like
this because it's so open and you can throw wherever,
whereas in Sprinkle Valley, like you have to be very specific.
And it was super windy. I don't know if you
could tell it through camera, but it was super windy there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It was just a bad time on that whole.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, but a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think the concept isn't for n We've seen the
long part four us that you play through technical to
get to that good landing zone and then your reward
is that you can go to the green. They just
did that at whole eighteen at Olympus. But there's I
don't know, Yeah, it's too many variables for each shot. Yeah,
it's just too much that can go wrong for it
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to be considered a good design. Do you feel any
way about women's course design? Do you have any strong
takes or like things you've seen that you really appreciate
and things that you don't.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Feel like the course design has gotten better over the years.
I remember when I first came to the States, it
seemed like all the holes were like super short. I
just remember that, like and like, yeah, there were some
funny stuff that I just remembered. It was like they.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Would give the men their tea and then they would
just slap your tea like sixty feet in front of
it or like one hundred feet, and they'd be like,
well call it a day.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, so it yeah, very true, but it's gotten better
over the years, I feel like. But it depends on
the course.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, it depends on the course. There are some really
good courses, and there are some courses that I feel
like need some work, where like you said, they have
designed the men's side, but then they don't know what
to do with the women and they just make it
a little bit shorter. But it's not like the same
technical line. It's totally different. So I feel like we
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have to put some more thought into it to make
it more technical, to have like the same kind of
like shot shaping as the men do.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, you've hit some significant milestone seeing one thousand, one
thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Thank you given that. Do you feel any which way
about the world's courses, because I know those are a
UC design and he designs really hard.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And I like the way you see things, like the
way that the hard that he has for the course
versus like put ob everywhere and then like trees and
wind and like any even ground.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You see that so often in the US, like oh
well the terrain is uneven and we'll put a bunch
of ob around and yes, okay, we're done. Yeah, where
you see is much more thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, there's like more technicality to it. And I like
the way the world this year's World's courses are hard
and difficult and challenging, but at the same time, if
you play well, you'll be scoring very well. There's not
like too many luck factors in there. What I hate
the most in course design is where you sort of
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like need to be lucky or you can't get lucky.
Of course, you can always be lucky and unlucky. It
can always happen, but like, at least you're trying to
take the variables out of it, because I see it
sometimes where there's like a perfect fair way, but there
are like two weird trees in the middle of it,
so you have to like navigate around it. So like
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there could be two similar shots and one hits the
tree and one doesn't hit the tree.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. How does having
silver on your bag help you navigate all of those courses?
The reason I'm asking is because when we're talking about
Holy eighteena Sprinkle Valley, you were visibly shaken before throwing
an approach shot, and just in general, on the whole,
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like as you are nearing the end, and you could
see him just like hug you. If you study responses
to anxiety and the body, that physical touch and the
pressure can relieve so much stress and anxiety. So I
was like what I like, It was like very crist moment.
But it also having a caddy can really really change
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your tournament.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I mean Silver has probably been the biggest support
throughout my career because there have been times where he
believes in me more than I do. And I feel
like it's what it was thanks to his push that
I made it to the US at all. I would
have just been fine playing in Estonia occasionally.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Keep going I'm gonna turn on a light.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah but.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
But but he really pushed me to get out there,
and he always told me that you can, you can
be the best, and you can compete with the best.
And I feel like he knows my game the most,
and he also knows me the best, so he knows
when to tell something and when to keep his mouth shut.
Because most of the time I know what to do.
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Sometimes I just need to confirm, like I have to
say it out loud, okay, am I throwing like I'm
throwing the rivee here or I'm throwing the grace here,
and he will be like nodding or something.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Is that like your way of processing it?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yes, okay, And then I'm like okay, this like answer
is locked in and now I'm gonna like do it.
So it's sometimes like it helps me or discussing something
when I'm really torn or in between. But most of
the time it's just him being there. It helps me already,
like he doesn't have to do anything. Yeah, but I feel, Yeah,
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I feel very comfortable with him. And I was talking
to the girls today that I don't really have Caddy
set often, like no, I do, I have silver. I
would feel more stressful with somebody else because I don't
know how they will behave and it would create anxiety.
But with him, I already know, like what's going on,
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how is our routine? So this is what makes me
more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
There's so many things in disc golf that are out
of your control, so having those key factors every day
that you can control is very important. You have to
have something that's regular, otherwise it's too I don't want
to say chaotic, because Kaotik can be a good refining experience,
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and it can be a good learning experience, So you
don't want to just always equate it to negative. But
you have to establish a rhythm and having him is
part of your rhythm.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yes, yes, I would say so. I mean may there
there are possibly more people I can trust, of course,
but it's just.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
All right, I'll carry your bag.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I don't want to be that picky, but yeah, I'm
not one of those players who just pick somebody out
from the crowd. I know that there are people who
like to do that or give the opportunity, but for
me personally, it just creates internal stress. Like I don't
know why, but it's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Would you, well, you're introverted.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Very Yeah, yeah that's why. I guess that's probably it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
If I had to get Yeah you have to small
talk with someone new for four hours.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, it just creates stress. It could be the nicest person.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I have learned that this week. I feel like I've
mastered that this week because we're staying in an airbnb
with Maria, who's a Stonian. She is significantly more chatty
now than she has been. Doesn't make it more positive
or negative, but it's just this you know a fact.
But Silva and her sister are totally chill, just not talking. Yes,
(41:28):
And so with me, I think motherhood has changed me
because same. Yeah, like I'm tired, i have problem solving
a lot of things, and I'm trying to decide what
we're doing in three hours and how I need to
get prepared for that. So if you just want to
come in and be on your phone and eat a
bowl of whatever you made, great.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes, and I can relate to that. I'm totally fine
sitting in silence.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, But previously I would have felt away, really I would, Yeah,
because it's as an American there is an expect that
not having small talk is rude. Oh yeah, and I
think I think it's to just I mean, you board
a train or you get in the car with someone
and you say hi, how are you Are you past
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someone in the street and you're like, hey, how's it going,
and there's always a recognition, and then depending on the relation,
you can keep going or not. And that's how we
get stuck because some of us are like, that's it
for me. I said, Hey, I'm going to go about
my business, and then some of us are like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
So glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Can you tell me about your day? Like how are you?
And how do you feel about that? And so now
I'm on the same vibe.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Well, in Estonia it's rude to be too chatty, so
it's the opposite.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I know, and in Finland as well, one does like it's.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
More appropriate to be silent. I'm not to chat with somebody,
it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
ConA had sent me a few questions for you as
we close. If you want to chance to partner with
a shoe company, who would it be and who's your faith?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Well, I'm partnered with Nike. I wear their shoes, and
even before the sponsorship, I was wearing Nike shoes and
I feel like they're the most comfortable and trusty.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
I guess is Nike. It's Nike Estonia. Yes, like a
huge yes, Yeah, that's huge, I mean that's huge.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And then I thought you were only sponsored by Nike
by their sports bras. No, what is that in collaboration about?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That was just because they had some the new line
came out and they wanted to make a big ad, okay,
and I was a part of it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
So you were part of this ad and you are
I mean gorgeous and silver is gorgeous. And you guys
were not a part of your branding for your collection,
and I am so, I mean you were right there.
They just used these models, probably through an agency that
they have a deal with. But like I just throw
(44:07):
a slipper up there, didn't he used to model?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Like what's yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I mean it's not just me, there's there was a
lot of people in disc golf that were like, why
did you they do it? They're beautiful people.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh well, thank you. I we didn't think we're beautiful
enough to do it. Like that was the reason why
we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's why. Yes, literally you need me on your team.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yes, but we're probably gonna do some videos and a
shoot together as well. But the shoot that we did
do happened while I was in Texas, so to get
the photos for the web store and everything. And yeah,
but I feel like maybe it would have been the
(44:52):
better move to do it ourselves.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Have Do you think that you are like a beautiful woman?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
I try, Okay, I try.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like you look in the mirror and you're like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Pretty, you know. As I've been on like this growth
journey and like getting older, and more content with myself.
Then I understand that this is the attitude that everybody
should have, you know, But I've grown up the opposite.
I've grown up to see only flaws and what I
can make better. So I've been really learning how to
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love myself. I feel like I'm in a place where
I do love myself, but occasionally I do think, like,
oh my gosh, I see it's some fixing and this
and that. But like, but yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
We're always our first critics.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
We're all but I'm trying to really like love myself
and like be happy with myself, but also work on myself.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, healthy balance. That blows me away. When you said, yeah,
we did think we were beautiful enough, I couldn't even speak.
There were so many people that I've talked to that
I was like, yeah, I wonder why Kristen and Silver
They were like, that's what I'm saying, why didn't they
do it? So that's good that you're gonna get a
chance to do that. Okay, So Nike would be your
(46:16):
favorite shoe. What's the coolest gift a fan has ever
given you?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
That puts a lot of pressure on me because now
everybody who has ever gifted me anything, they're like.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Who is obviously listening to this podcast?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
They're all listening, They're all tuned in. I think I
can't pick out the favorite and given.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I guess named some things that you've been given.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Been given some like jewelry like self made, which is
very very cute, some good luck tokens like different Okay,
today I was given a book, yes, about disc golf.
It was by the author himself, that networking. And I've
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been given discs like yeah with dies and different kind
of stuff. And I've been given some cute drawings by children,
which is always very cute. Like self made stuff is
the best gift, I feel like because I can feel
the energy of the gifts I made.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I got really sick. So I made friendship bracelets for people,
and ConA passed them out and we made like a
little TikTok about.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
It's very cute. I was really proud of that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I agree. I think homemade gifts aret something that someone
really spent time on.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yes, it means feeling.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, what layout do you like more this weekend? A
or B? Do you even know the difference?
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I mean, I mean, now I didn't know it before
the tournament. When I played the tournament round than I
could understand which layout is which I think I think
I will. I don't even know. There are good baskets
on both layouts, and there are some baskets that I'm
happy I don't have to play. Like Whole six with
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the mandatory is like, it's always so weird when there
there's like an empty field and in the middle of
the field there are some mandatory trees. Like if it
would be a fair way in the woods, I feel
like for me, it would be easier to throw a
straight line or like a heiser, but when it's like
(48:31):
in the field, for me, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
You feel that way. Whole seven at throw pink with
the bamboo.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
That's also weird. So it's weird.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
If it was just wide open and there was no
mando and they were like you have to go straight
for it, you would hit it every time. But then
once there you're.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Like, hey, I don't know what to do anymore. I
keep hitting.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
It, yes, the same way, like yeah six here, yeah, well, gosh,
I think we covered let's see. Oh. I wanted to
highlight as the last thing I missed in my notes
I should have asked you earlier.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I mean, this is an idea that had been
cooking in my mind for a while, and I talked
to about it early January to sort of make an
announcement and like a form for tds to fill out
and then we could like send out some care packages.
But I mean he never got around to it, and
(49:27):
then he left, and when I came back from my
first stretch, I thought, why not do it right now,
because I mean, there are some women's events coming up,
And then I was like, I want to do it
now so the packages can get to women and to
the tds. So yeah, I mean it was kind of
random because I just did a very quick announcement in
(49:50):
my stories, but there were like I think forty or
over forty people who responded or asked for support, and
even prior to that, people sometimes like email me and
ask if I can support their events. So I ended
up sending out packages to like fifteen different countries and
(50:11):
there actually was over twenty of them all together. Yea, yeah,
and I'm happy that I could do my little part.
Hopefully some players will be happy, and I would love
for this to be a yearly thing, so I will
be doing this every year. Yeah, I guess every Like
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all the big players, they have like their thing, you know,
Paul has his foundation and Ricky has his thing, and
I was like, I don't really have my thing, but
I would really love to support women and I want
to like be more comfortable playing disc golf and have
the courage to take part of events and be happy
doing it. And if it's through some merch like supporting
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them and giving out some inspiration, and it's already a
big step for me.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
You've afforded us so much of your time. I really
appreciate it. It's just nice to hear your breakdown of
a lot of the decisions and changes that you've experienced
over the last few months. What a perfect time for
change because it's spring, What a perfect time for growth.
Do not want to keep you another minute because you
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have a major, but I just really appreciate what you
do for the sport. Your fans really appreciate you, and
it's just excellent to hear you. So I really am
grateful that you came on our little tiny show to
talk to us. It's just clear your passion for the
sport and for women's disc golf. It's very inspiring how
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you are championing both making an attempt.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
To do both. Thank you so much. I appreciate it,
and it truly means a lot to be noticed in
that kind of way. I'm not doing it to be noticed.
I'm just trying to do my I truly appreciate you
having me here and wanting to hear my thoughts. So
thank you for giving me this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Aside from how is your round today? How did you
feel about your round today? How are you feeling about
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