Paul Jr and Rachel Spill the TEA on Their Marriage and Design Secrets

Paul Jr. and Rachel spill the tea on their marriage, family, and future design projects. In this heartwarming episode of the Paul Jr. Podcast, they open up about their journey together—from how they met, to the pets that became part of their story, to their latest renovation plans in New Jersey.
They share hilarious and heartfelt moments, including stories about their beloved dog Max, their son’s excitement about the big move, and even a sneak peek at a potential new TV show.
Whether you’re a longtime American Chopper fan or new to Paul Jr. Designs, this is a must-watch episode full of authenticity, love, and creative inspiration.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Max the dog, Max the dog, Yes, old Maxie here,
we should talk about him. Let's talk about him. Oh,
never mind, he's gone. Oh he's a mama's boy. That's
the problems this dog. I've never seen a dog be
such a mom as boy. I've been trying to bond
with this guy. He loves me, but he is infatuated

(00:28):
with my wife.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I know.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, all right, why don't we set it up for Max?
Where'd we get him?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We got Max? Well, should we tell the backstory?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, let's give him backstory.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, So you had an appearance in North New Jersey
and there was a rescue that was there. They had
all these puppies.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, well back it up though we had so
everybody knows, uh, our dog's Abraham and Isaac. Oh maybe
not everyone, but they were on the show. People knew
about him. Abraham passed away at eight. He he died
kind of young, and that was a heartbreaker because he
was like the best dog we.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Ever, model dog, perfect, like a kitten, like a gentle giant.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And then we had the warmer honor Isaac.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
He had a screw loose.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
He was nuts until he was well. He lived to
sixteen that of unheard of. But he had a lot
of rough years, not so much physically because he was like,
even though he was losing his like eyesight and his hearing,
he's still uh he was not in pain. No, he
just got old.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah real. He was happy.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
He was happy, and we were paying attention to that.
And but for three years, this dog was not aware
of where he went to the bathroom, how he went
to the bathroom. He would walk from one end of
the room to.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
The other hee and be swinging the whole way.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean he this dog would cover ground right.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
So as much as we loved having him around and
he was such a part of our family for sixteen years, yeah,
it wasn't a good It was a you know, it
was a slow three year ending. Yeah, And eventually he
just couldn't once they can't eat or stand, and we
knew it was time. We had to put him to sleep.
And we totally loved him, but he was a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah. So well, and after that that was the first
time we were without any dog. I was like, no
more dogs, Yes, and we thought we'd go without for
a while. Yeah, especially since it was a lot of
work towards the end.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
It was a lot of work for a lot of years.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Which is like crazy to even think about.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It really is, because like I've had so many dogs
through the years, or I've had enough dogs where usually
they go pretty quick, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, sixteen, that's like I heard of Yeah, Gabe, he
was eight, and wyams are supposed to be like I think,
like what like ten or so roughly like ten.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
To twelve, ten to twelve.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, So we're like, we are not going to get
a second dog because we always like having two dogs
because we feel like, you know, Isaac will be next
and that you know, the age difference will be so big,
so we'll wait and get two at the same time.
And then he lived a whole another eight.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Years, eight years longer than Abe.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Abe lived to a people. Isaac lived to sixteen. And
I love them both. Yeah, but if I had to
pick one that would have lived.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
To sixteen, that's so terrible.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Wouldn't have been Isaac, You're sick? Hey, I love him both.
But Abe was such a he was so good, he
was such a great.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It wasn't that he was well be a giant.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
His personality was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
He was so good.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So to your point. I feel like
we got an Abe here. I know, this dog is
probably the best dog I ever met, which has been
very so okay, so okay. So we're at a charity event.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, and there is a rescue that's there and they
have all these puppies and I see a puppy in
the tent next to where you were. Someone was holding
the puppy and it actually reminded me of Abe I had, Like,
you know, I actually looked to see if there was
a ridge on his back. I was like, can I
see this back? And I was like, oh, She's like, oh,
there's a bunch of puppies over there. Go see them.

(04:17):
You know, they have a whole bunch here.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then you come over to me and I'm like,
what's up. You're like, we have to go look at
these puppies.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I was like, maybe we should go just look
at them.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
And in that very moment, I.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Knew I didn't.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I knew I did. I knew there was a chance
that if we found one that was good.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, but who you know, I don't know. I thought
we'd go over.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
There and well I knew there was a fix and leave.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh no, it's not quite with that what happened.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
So we went over and there were a bunch of
dogs and someone said, oh, that dog that I was
looking at got adopted. I wasn't specifically, you were disappointed,
tiny tiny toe a lot.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, you were, man, you were pacing, pacing.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Love that dog. Right away, You're like, let's adopt that dog.
I was like, what are you talking about? Okay, you
did want that dog.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, that is the dog that got me over to
go look at the dogs.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I know. Yeah, and then he was laying down, yes,
when we came over and his face was buried.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
He's a girl, and we're kind of like, you know,
boy dog. Yeah, I don't know why, but yeah. So anyway,
we were looking at all the dogs and they were
jumping all over and being wild little puppies, and this
one was just sleeping with his head down, and I
was like, I want to see what that dog looks like.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
We couldn't see his face because he just saw his
body hanging out.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah. So oh we left. We left, and you did
the rest of the appearance, and before we left for
the entire day, I was like, let's stop back over, right.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
We did, and then they were like, uh, oh, do
you want to walk him? Yeah? Do you want us
to take him out? Because he was in like a
little pen.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I'm like, I said yeah, I said no.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, Rachel says no, I say yeah. So the dog
comes out, and right away I noticed something about the
dog that he's just super chill, like mega chill, and
so we bring him out. As soon as he comes out,
he rolls on his back. And then I noticed he
did that for everyone who approached him. He was very submissive,
but in a very extremely friendly way.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, you know, like scared right yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
And then I picked him up, dude, and this dog
was just limp, never met me before, just trusted me
right away, Like his legs were right. He was like
dead weight. And you know when dogs are anxious, they'll
tighten up, you'll feel them like you'll hold him, but
they'll get all yeah, they'll get like rigid. He didn't
do that, and I was like, oh, man, I think
this is a good dog. And like, think about it.

(06:41):
Most people go and get dogs and it's like they
don't know what they're getting. We didn't know what we
were getting, and we did. We could have got the
worst dog.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
In the world. And he was so good, and we're like,
we're getting a second one. And the second one came
and he was like a lunatic.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. And we thought because they were both good looking
or similar looking, yeah, that it was going to be
the same. It was not. So Anyways, we fall in
love with this dog and we didn't even know it yet, right, like,
put the dog back. We're not ready for this.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
We've got a lot going on. We're like in between.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Meanwhile, meanwhile, Hudson's never had his own dog.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was born into having what.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Pretty much Isaac, Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much Isaac. And
so by the time he like connected, Isaac was an
old miser. Yeah, and he was. He was fine. He
was part of the family. But I don't think it
was like a puppy.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, it wasn't like his dog. It was like just
the dog.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So this is like the first dog we've had that
is our son's dog as well. So he's like, this
dog is like a fourth member of our family now,
you know.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
And I gotta tell you, he is so good.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
He is the best dog I've ever met. And I've
met some amazing dogs through the years. Where you ever
meet someone and their dog is like, like, how where
does a dog like that come from? This? Is that
that type dog? He's just gentle, he's very sensitive, he's
super smart. Right, he picks everything up right away.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Ye, sleeps at the night really good, really good.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know how big he's gonna be, but it
doesn't much matter.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's your skin. So I'm a little worried about how
big he's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, I don't know. I think he's what's he thirty
five pounds now?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah? Roughly?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
So maybe what fifty to seventy?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
We think maybe five month?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah or so? Yeah, And we looked into it a
little bit. He's a black mouth cur.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, we think, mixed with a catahula leopard dog.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
We were gonna amazing.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Sure. His sister was like a brindly, very brindle, totally opposite.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Looking, Yes, looked like a dingo.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And he was, yes, from Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
From Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah, it's a down South dog and
supposedly they make really good like family pets. And man,
he's just he's been perfect and we've had him so
we picked him up on Memorial Days. Yeah, yeah, how
long has that been? Now? Month?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Just under yeah under a month.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, he's so good man up.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So it's All Humane Animal Rescue is where we got
him from in North New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
An All Humane Animal Rescue dot org dot org.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, and they rescue everything. We went there, we bought
Hudson and we got to see they had a baby deer,
they had a horse, They had guinea hens, chickens, porcupines. Yeah, yeah,
all sort of three legged fox yeah. Yeah. They just
rescue everything.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
They rescue. They had flying squirrels. I mean these guys rescue.
There are the people you call when you find anything. Yeah,
and they know how to take care of it. Really
important because it's like a miniature farm it is. And
her name's Lisa, who runs the place. And she asked
me if we would help her out. She said, you know, uh,

(09:53):
money's tight in the summer. Yeah, because no, she said,
adoptions way down in the summer. You know, people are
on vacation and whatever. She said, is there any way
you can help us out? So we would like to
try and help them out, even by giving out the information.
Right now, she's wanting to give her cell number out.
She doesn't care, you know, when people are in that
position and they care about animals. They're not worried about

(10:16):
anything other than making sure that those animals are gonna survive, succeed.
You know, they're also helping them that have injuries.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
So what was the website?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I believe it's all Humane Rescue dot.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Org, all human Rescue dot.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Organ Animal Rescue dot work.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
And how were they able to donate money? People?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's right on the website.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's right on the website. So you just go to
that website.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
They PayPal and.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
If you feel lead to eything will help, anything.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Will help help me see what they do. And it
was amazing. They don't turn away animals.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And here's what's crazy about them. And you know, I
should probably have her on because I thought she was
very interesting. She was like a super animal person, right,
And they have like a process. They will get like
an injured animal, nurse it back to health, or even
have baby animals, yes, like little raccoons. And what they
do is because they have like this miniature farm. When

(11:11):
I say many, I mean they're packed in there, but
everything is cared for and they literally will bring these
things up and they will do it in such a
manner that they have a process towards wild release.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, they try to rehabilitate and then kind of start
to separate it from kind of human contact and have
it be a little bit more wild so that they're
ready to be released.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes. And I think this is like a generational family place. Ye.
I know this woman, Lisa, her mother apparently was like
an animal whisper and they saved everything. Yeah, and so
they know how to handle just about any type of
animal and how to rehabilitate them and then release them
back into the wild.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So I think that's pretty unique. There's a lot of
shelters out there that you can get dogs and cats,
but this is like, like, well, I think the namesake
says it all. So I think if we can help
them out, and I think if anyone wanted to be
generous I think.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Or wants to get a dog.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Or wants to get a.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Dog, christer was available no longer.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
No longer we thought about it. No, Apparently that the
sister went to a really good home. Yeah, but yeah,
we recommend this place. I like it. It was really
I was like, where are what are we doing here?
And then you know, quickly you realized, Wow, these guys
are doing some great work, you know. I mean they

(12:34):
told us they had a beaver at one time that
they used to have to put in the tub. Beaver
had like damage to its tail or something.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, so it's pretty it's pretty amazing. I guess we
should set this up. We're gonna watch something that's pretty
awesome to me. It's a spoof we did on Fast
and Loud, right.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, twenty twelve and.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
It was around what time when were we? Uh it
was there was a reason we did it. Build off
to build off too, yes, which is bike.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Just discovered this on my computer.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yes, this has been in the lost archives of Paul
Junior Designs for a very long time now, and it
was around this bike and it was our live build
in Vegas. It was our second time, ye right, because
twenty eleven was the copper and aluminum bike we won
with against occ and Jesse James. And then this time

(13:28):
they asked if they added Fast and Loud, So it
was a four way build off and we thought those
guys were just clowns, and maybe we were wrong, but
at the time it was very competitive. So we we
shot this spoof. We and we had great We had
our full production, right, I.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Think there was like an employee that came right, wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yes, one of the people who was on the show
early on, who then no longer was on the show
came down. I think. I don't say he was disgruntled,
super nice guy, but I think he like had his opinion.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Leaned into it. You know, we leaned in the perfect opportunity.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's right. So we created this spoof on Fast and Loud,
which is called Lost and Found. And uh, I have
to tell you.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Man, I don't know if I've ever left so hard.
It is good and ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
And I gotta be honest with you. I had I
had my little moments. But Cody and Vinnie steal the show.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I'm telling you, Cody.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Cody and Vinnie steal this.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
One from this that I still say today because they're
so hysterical.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I don't I will say I think Cody and Vinnie
were amazing. Yea, Vinnie looked fantastic, but Cody, well, actually
Cody was Richard rawlins that dove in. All right, let's
fire it off, man, Let's watch this thing and we
could probably talk over it. I think, right, I don't

(14:59):
know sure, I like my coat so good? Welcome to
tonight's episode of Loston Found, where the boys try proving
to the entire world once again, and they know what
they're doing. This episode, Aaron meets up with Ricky. That's

(15:22):
in a remote field a long ways away. Wait that's Aaron. Yeah,
I found your car over here. What did you do?
What the hell do you buy? Now?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
We gotta we got a Mustang right over here in
the bushes.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I love this be I love it on you. I
don't want to get thirty. Give me a ride. I
love it. Idea? All right?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Is that diamond and the rough?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I was talking about? What the hell you're looking at here?
You think we could do it?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
This is a piece of got rust all over it,
old tires, got a carcass on the hood.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yep, they don't even got a rid of your mirror.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I want it, but I think we could paint it.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
We could slam it, we could put some rims on it.
The boys had another rare fine and lose some money
the next auction. I love his beard, I love all
the leafs and his beard. Over to the best mechanic
in Texas.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
If we got here here can't smoky garage you give
this play legitimacy. I'll tell you what that legitimate sensation.
I already told you, Richard, my wife already sold them
justin beaver dikets. How's she going?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So this guy, he was on fast and loud, right,
I already sold it for four times until we got
in it. Some English.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
How about that? Oh that one? The dad love the
bell bond tie?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
How young you are?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Oh my gosh, I'm such a baby face. I love
Cody's moves here man, look at him. Look at him
spray painting his own hair. So good, so starsky and
hutch until.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Then comes along its belly share.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, with the hot glue and the bedazzling. Wow. I
love his point, you, Richard. Six weeks later and the
car was finally complete and the auction day had finally arrived. Now,
I'm only a champion bike building, but I have to

(17:39):
believe that certain cars have no business at certain auctions.
And now on to the next piece of business on
our block. For the Pebble Beats auction nineteen eighty six Mustang,
I don't marn't have been at five hundred dollars Flexen hundred,

(18:00):
one hundred free.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Anybody just want to take it, Okay, we'll give you
fifty dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
If you want to take this in the car, I'll
give you fifty bucks. Anyone fifty dollars to the lady.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Right there, and I hear a hundred, one hundred, one
hundreds of the jumping right there going once, going twice
sold to the guy for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Wo coratulations. Congratulations, sir, thank you. I just want to
tell you this is ass Monkey's finest ass monkey of
our shop and it is my personal favorite.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So if you ever end up with any problems, please
do not bring your leaves.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Now you know, will do you hear one hundred dollars bills?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So Crazy's be real?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
What well you guys spailed again? Doesn't that ever get old?
I would a bear like this now when you look this, damn.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Love Cody's enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
And they are full making out or mechanical skills. So
tune in next week to see if they can make
a profit on anything. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, I
just gotta warm up real quick.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So good.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I love that is so good. If you know fast
and loud, dude, that is the perfect parody.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
For and I have like all these like behind the scenes,
like I was like videoing where we just stopped because
we were laughing so hard.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That was good. It was some good stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, well, well.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Listen, I think it's good. We're doing a podcast together,
me and you. I mean we did some like early
on half ass ones. They weren't really that. We just
weren't where we are now with it. Yeah, we're more
professional ish speak for yourself. No, seriously, we got a
better set up. We got better sound, better audio, better visual,

(20:01):
better everything. We have lighting, we have three cameras, headphones
which are huge. Don't you think it makes a big difference,
kind of kind of put you in the conversation and
like the room Like I'm like, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
There's less distraction, distracted everything.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
So this this right here and this is I'm honed in. U.
You're the only thing in the room, babe.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
See for me, I don't like to hear myself talking.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
No one does. But you know, it's better to hear
that than like everything else going on. At least it's
put you. You're listening to me in your ears, you know.
So all right, let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
With our lives.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
What is going on with our lives?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
We don't freaking no, man. We had a lot of
things we do well.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
We're making the plunge, the full commitment to staying in
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's been like we did, we made we made the
commitment already.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, a little bit of lamb, which is what we're
looking for because that's what we're used to.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Two and a half acres. It's pretty fantastic. We're excited.
We're going to renovate the house.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that's going to be a very big undertaking. But
I think it's going to be very Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I think it's been a good It's gonna be a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
It's exciting. But like I was saying, we're taking the plunge.
So we just recently put our New York house up
for sale. That's right, we are doing it.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, so we bought a house here in New Jersey. Yes,
but we haven't sold our house in New York. Yes,
And that's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, that is a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It is a whole thing. We would really like to
just get out of the New.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
York at this point. Yes, it took us forever to
like pull the trigger. But now that we have, we're
like ready to do it.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
And it's like the best house in the world. Five
acres just so long. Yeah, seven hundred feet of riverfront property. Fantastic.
I mean it is. It's for the right person, I know.
But you know, so anyways, we are going to renovate
the house we bought here in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Me and you know, yes, it's going to be a
gut job.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
So it's going to be a gut job.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, So it's going to be I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah. I think the most exciting part is that we
just signed a development deal with a production company and
our restoration or renovation of the house is going to
be like the A storyline. Yeah, and I think it
will be really good.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah. I think it's very timely because it's something that
we're really doing in real time right now. And when
you look at like my vision board for everything, I
know that that house could be. It's going to take
quite a bit of work.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It's going to take a lot of work, but I
think it's going to be fun.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It will be fun.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's like it's like building a house, but you don't
have to build the whole house.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yes, the place has great bones.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
It does. It's got great bones. The potentials there the property.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
We love.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
The property is I mean a little pond.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It backs up to all of that state owned land,
so it used to be Cranberry bogs, which is really cool.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yep, it's all Cranberry Bogs. There's all these great trails
behind us, and it's pretty spectacular it is, and I
think once we get into it, it's going to be
really good, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's interesting though, So when we just signed a development deal,
which means I feel like television is right, it's right
around the corner for us, I do think so. And
I think we have a lot to offer in that way.
And I mean that not just because we would be
like renovating this whole house and property, Yeah, but I

(23:45):
feel like also to be able to do bikes and
cars and all the things people love to see us do,
plus renovate. Let's just call it our dream home for now,
right and see what we do with it, because it
needs a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's very dated, it is, it is.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
But my wife has a tremendous vision for this, so
much so that we bought it before we sold our
new York House a.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Few minutes to get on board. I didn't know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Though, Yeah, yeah you do. I think you're right. It
did take me in It took me more than a
minute to get on board. A matter of fact, when
Rachel showed me this property the first time, at.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Least six months before, we actually looked at it seriously.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And what did I say?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
You swiped through two pictures and you said I will
never live here, and I was like, you didn't even
give it a chance.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I did say that, But then we saw the property,
and you know, it's funny how that works. You look
at it and it's like eh, And then you get
there and you're like, huh.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well then and you start to see like the vision,
like we could do this here, we could do that there,
and we can move this there.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yes. And a big factor here, honestly, is our son Hudson.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
We've been on the island for what four years now.
He grew up with some property. He grew up on
the river in the mud. And the island's great, but
it's you're on top of each other. There's no acreage,
there's nowhere to ride quads or do all the things
boys like to do, and so I feel like, and
he's a nature kid, he's an animal lover, he's an

(25:10):
insect lover. Right, Yeah, So I think he's really missed that.
And you know the thing is when he was young,
he experienced it in New York, and then we moved here,
and even though I think it was the best move
for us, I feel like he lost out on a
lot of that. So I think he's just as excited
as we.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Are surprisingly about the movie. I didn't know how he
was going to be about that because he has like, yeah, well,
he doesn't want to let go of anything.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I feel like his endorsement put us over the time
on the decision. Yeah, because he was like, okay, just
don't say you're gonna do it and not do it.
I know, I know that's all he was worried about.
Not that we do that a lot, but you know.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But we didn't even tell him until we had bought it.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh that's right, Remember, because we were.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Going back and forth. We weren't really sure. We didn't
want to like, you know, that's we were doing something.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well, we will. We brought him there and warmed aboup
to it. We got his temperature on it, and he
seemed amenable to him. Yes, yes, you know, because you
can have dogs and chickens and you know, you can
have like a little farm there, which I think he
would love and we would love. Yes, so uh anyway,
so he was a big factor here. But you know,
we're in this like in between space, right, Yeah, we

(26:22):
we haven't we haven't gotten a show yet, but we're
in a development deal with a really good production company
who has who loves what we're about and thinks that
it could be very good. I also agree. I feel
like there's a I don't know. I just think some
of these shows from the past are coming back, and
I think what we do and how we do it,

(26:43):
there's an appetite for out there, and I think we
can have a lot of fun doing it, especially with
your vision for the house. You know, I feel like
this house could really be I think we can make
it spectacular, think and you know, we're both hands on.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I feel like that's like the thing. I feel like
everything that we're looking to do is very obtainable if
somebody is handy, you know, yes, throwing money at it.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, almost like we can have a very sophisticated look
without just throwing money at in other words, budget conscious.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
We like that and design forward for thinking all of
the design elements.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
So it looks rich, but it's you don't have to
spend all the money on it. Yeah, so I think you're.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right choose where you want to.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, it's creative ways to get the end result.
I think that'll be very interesting. It's not just here's
you know, a million dollars, see what you can do.
Of course you can kill it. I think you figure
out creative ways.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's very hands on. So like we've built out places
in the past, we tell, you know, businesses and homes
and things of that nature, and like the two of
us together, the way that we tackle a project is
very I don't know. I always feel like we end
up very much on the same pace very quickly. Yes,
so I think to take on this house as our home.

(28:05):
We've done a second home before, we've done like the
beach house before and things of that nature, but like
a place that we are actually going to call our
home and live in and start from scratch because it
needs to be gutted really for what it does, it.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Pretty much needs to be gutted. But that's okay. We
like that, Yeah, I thought, and I like doing this time.
I mean even building out this space. Think about it
took us like six months to build out my shop
in your shop, Yeah, I had. I enjoyed the process well.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Even early on. If anyone had stopped by very early on,
they probably saw me on a ladder somewhere painting or
hanging the sign.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, exactly. So I think we could do a lot
of the work ourselves and make a huge difference, and
even maybe call in some relatives to help pull up
the old floors and stuff like that. Yeah, I think
it's going to be really good, man, Yeah, I do.
I think it's going to be really good. I love
the property, I love the location. I love the street.
We won't say that name now, but it's a great name.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
So that's like one of the biggest factors. Also, the
idea that the property is not just a cleared square,
you know. Yeah's kind of like very organic and there's
tree and there's clearings, and I feel like there's like
a lot of opportunity to do some really cool, like
nooky things within the property. And there's a small pond and.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, so the aesthetic of the house is like a
modern Victorian it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Is, but missing some elements to really put it over
the top.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, we wanted to look like a late eighteen hundreds Victorian.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would say it like kind of like a coastal
yes Victorian.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yes, And I think I think we're going to pull
it off. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh, I know we will.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
And I think it would make great television. I really do,
because you know we're hands on, We're going to make this.
To me, it's a giant bike build. That's the why
I look at it. Now. You have more of a
vision because your gift is more in the way of
interior and exterior and house. And I know you spend
your whole life looking at different options and colors and
all that. So I feel like the way I build

(30:06):
motorcycles is the way you would design this house. That's
the way I feel about it. What's exciting to me
is I like that type of work, and I know
I can contribute. Yeah, but certainly you have the overall vision.
And the fun part is it's not just the house
into your exterior, but there's also this two and a
half acres with a pond in the backyard. There are

(30:29):
these giant trees, pine trees out back kind and there
is so much cedar. Yes, matter of fact, when the
when the breeze comes through the woods, it just smells
like cedar. There's that many cedar trees and there's some
monster seeds on the property, which is really great. So

(30:49):
we're going to figure out a way to like lay
this thing out in a very methodical way.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, we don't want to remove too many trees like
that is what's so charming about the property. I feel like, yeah,
kind of a little bit untouched right now, and it
would just be like every other.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know, property out there completely and there's so many
like natural nooki areas where you just like walk into
the woods and then there's like a little opening. Yes,
oh man, it's gonna be so good.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I have so many visions scared you do you do?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Honestly, Again, when we first started looking at this, I
wasn't into it. But then every time you talked about
it and tell me your vision, because I didn't have
the same vision. I didn't have the same like I
have vision. I just didn't have your vision. And every
time you brought it up, I was like, yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Are like different areas this over there, yes, you could
do this there very.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Very and like with the hydranges and everything else, we
don't have to get way into it a favorite. Even
the shape of the property. We're hoping to be able
to build a building for me.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
On yes, be the goal.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, move everything, cars, bikes, signs, potentially.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Have room for all your stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
And then maybe the workshop on the side.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, that would be nice to get everything under one
roof exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
So that's what we've been up to pretty much. Yeah,
other than this dog we just rescued. Yeah, all right,
so let's just get straight into it, because this is
something that has bugged my wife forever, and I can
understand why.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
To be honest, well, I feel like I kind of
did you a favor and did you a solid.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You did? You did? You were young and naive. I mean,
let's be on.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You asked me to do it, I did.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Well. Okay, So I'm gonna set this up so everybody
wants to know how we met. Maybe some people know,
but a lot of people don't. The truth is, well,
let's talk about how we met, and then we'll talk
about how the people who watched the show think we met. Yeah,
fair enough, So let's set that up. Okay. We met
in Atlantic City, Yes, on Djhachie's birthday.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's true, or his birthday party whatever it was that
he was having.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And it was two thousand and seven, seven in September.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
September, yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Ninth or something seventh, I want.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
To say, like fourteenth. Okay, potentially we had to look back.
It was like maybe like six months later, We're like,
when do we meet?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
You used to always send me the anniversary of the
time we met.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
In my phone?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, what is it? I see what happens after fifteen years, Man,
these things become so lesson.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, it was like six months after and we had
to look back to see.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Kidney used to give me a card for this date.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh, come on, let me say September anniversary, the day
you met your love. There you go, Sunday, September fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay, Sunday September fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
It wasn't a Sunday, but it is, Oh it is
it is this year. Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, I'm gonna guessing it wasn't a Sunday because we
were partying.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, Friday, Friday, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
It was a Friday or Saturday, almost guaranteed. So we
met at the.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes, I was at with my friends.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And we met that. We met at a club called
Murmur Murmur, Yeah, which was like in the basement at
the border.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yes, it was like downstairs, Yeah, downstairs.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was me and my buddy Johnny there for the weekend.
We were frequents there. We'd like to go and play
three card and try our luck and blow all our
money on gambling back then, you know, so two thousand
and seven, I was my thirties, mid thirties. Yeah, yeah,
and we were there for the weekend, and I remember

(34:29):
we were downstairs and we went down, me and Johnny.
We got like our little special area where we could
get drink service and stuff, because you know, by that
time we were I was pretty spoiled with all that.
And uh, I don't know. We were hanging out looking
to have like a nice night, and this group of
girls came in.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Is that that me?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, okay, you came in with other girls.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I did, my girlfriend Lindsay, probably a few other friends.
I think my friend Dina was there. I think that's
why I went out that night. I wasn't even going
to go out that night.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah. So anyway, so they come in and I don't
know for whatever reason, like I looked over and I
saw this like girl. She looked like she was like
seven feet tall.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I was in heels and I.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Was like, dude, look at this girl man. And it
was Rachel and she was looking hotter than a firecracker.
I gotta tell you, man, it was unbelievable. I was like,
what just happened to me? Just now? And you had
these like shorts on and like these I don't know, man,
you were looking like a snack to me that night.

(35:34):
I'm gonna be honest with you. And I said it
to Johnny and then and then I remember someone introduced
us right and then.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right, I'll jump in there, jump in there. Okay. So
I was there with friends and I knew like the bartender,
and I think I was like talking to someone that
I knew, and someone came up to me who worked there,
and they said, oh, we want to introduce you to somebody.
And I said okay, and they're like, oh, it's Paul

(36:05):
Junior or whatever. I was like okay, and they're like,
but he's in the bathroom. I'll come back and get you,
I swear, And I was like okay, and then they
walked away. And I was like, that was the weirdest
thing ever, you know, And I did not stay where
they told me to stay. I was like, yeah, no,
So I had like walked away with my girlfriend. And
then eventually someone came back over to introduce us.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah. Well you weren't hard to find in the crowd,
by the way, yeah at all. So anyways, so then
we met, right, we got introduced, We started having a
conversation yep. And then I don't know, you noticed my
one dimple, Well I have one on my left side
and you have one dimple on your left side, and

(36:47):
that was it. We got married after that, that was it.
Then we started talking and we went right upstairs. Yeah,
we like left the club, went upstairs and I started
playing what was I playing?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Roulette?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Roulette or something like that like that.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, I think at the time you there was you smoked.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I did. I smoked cigarettes at the yes, and there was.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
No I think you were thought you were going to
be able to light a cigarette down there.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah I did. I was like, what are you doing,
Like you can't smoke down I was like, oh, oh sorry,
so you have to go upstairs.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, And then I was like, oh, I'll go upstairs
with you, and then our friends were like came upstairs
and they're like you both of us, Like you left us.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, we did. We boiled, We just disappeared. Yeah, and
uh and then we just hung out like most of
the night, you know. And then uh and then eventually
you went home, and uh, I went off to bed,
and I'll never forget because the next morning we came down,
me and.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Johnny, we went to we went out to eat. After
we went to that, Johnny was falling asleep and people
were taking this food as they.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Were eating his food. That's right, he was, and he
was like this yeah, back back. Yeah. But anyway, so
the night ended, you went home. I went back up
to the room, and I'll never forget. In the morning,
me and Johnny got up to like go get breakfast.
They got that big buck buffet there, you know. And
uh so I got out of the elevator and there
was like a little kiosk at the bottom at the

(38:15):
Borgotta at the elevator, which I don't know, it's like movable. Right,
So we go down and.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Oh, I probably should have mentioned that I had worked at.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
The Borgota, right, you had worked at the Borgatta for
for quite a few years. Yeah, yeah, and okay, well
then all right, so then that's fine, you're right.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So Rachel worked, I knew everybody there.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, Rachel worked at the Borgatta and anyway, So we
got down, we got out of the elevator. There was
a little kiosk where we went to buy cigarettes of
all things, you know. And then so Johnny goes, hey,
that's the girl you were hanging out with last night.
And I said where and he goes right here, and
there's a there's a calendar hanging up that you could buy,

(39:01):
and Rachel was on the cover of the calendar and
it was the Borgotta Girls. Yeah, anyway, So I was like,
no way, and he's like, yeah, dude, that's her right there.
Like I didn't even see it. So I'm like, dude,
I'm buying that calendar. So I ended up buying the
calendar and a couple packs of cigarettes or whatever, you know,
for the day. But so that was it. Man. Then

(39:22):
after that we started talking and.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I hung out again that night.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right, that's right. I was working, Oh you were working
at you were working at where do.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
We Tropicana Tropicandra? Okay, that's right, yep. So I came
over afterwards after I got off work, and we hung
out for a while, and then you were trying to
get me to come upstairs to watch a movie.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Not me. Yeah, I would never do that.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I was like, yeah, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I was like, come on, We'll just watch a movie.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You would not go for it. This girl would not
go for it. And I was like, you know, just
a movie. I know, it's three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I'm like, I'm going home, goodbye. Well, you know, fun
hanging out for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, but you were in love already. I was you
were You had to like really hold back that night,
you wish I think.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
No, Actually, I thought you were really funny.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
And I thought you were, like I am funny.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
You were very fun to hang out with. Nothing happened
at all, no nothing, and I thought, okay, goodbye, nice
meeting you. You know, you went back up to New York.
I thought I'd never hear from you again. No worries.
Right then I called and then you wouldn't stop calling.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I feel like this was very mutual. I could be wrong. Uh, anyways,
you're right. I mean we started getting into it. We
started talking more uh, you know, it became more of
a thing, and then you know, over time, we just
we were like a good fit. Man.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, it was two weeks later that, oh, you were
trying to get me to come up to hang outurse.
That's like two and a half three hours from where
I lived in New Jersey. Yeah, and I think you
were trying to be.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Like, now, let's set this up age wise, okay, okay,
because I was thirty five.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
You were not thirty five.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I was thirty four.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
You were you were twenty six, you were turning thirty three.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Okay, yes, okay, So I was thirty two and you
were what.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
So at the time I was twenty four or something?
Was I twenty four? Gosh, it was a lifetime ago, man,
it was I was twenty four. Yeah, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, it was a long time ago. You were twenty
four and I was like thirtirty two or something like that,
which makes sense. That math seems to work pretty well, yes, man, Yes,
so glad at the time man, I was, I don't know,
we were just we had such a good time in
those early days.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, you know, so two weeks later you were trying
to get me to come up to visit you. Yes,
and you were trying to be I don't know what's
the word, I'm looking for something like that. You're like,
also send a car for you?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh boy, who says that? Yeah, I was like, kind
of dude says that.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm like, no, I'm like, you're a stranger.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Oh please, you did not think I was a stranger.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I told you I would not come up unless I
drove and I bring a friend. That's the only way
I would come up.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Okay, fair enough, that's true.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, you were two and a half hours away.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You could have been a second and you brought some
weird chick with you.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
That's because my girlfriend Lindsey me and I wasn't going
to come. Yeah, and then this girl I worked with
said I'll go with you, and I was like really,
and that was it.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, that wasn't fun for Johnny.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
We tried to set her up with Johnny and she
was a handful. Yeah that's fine. So, I mean that's
kind of And then the rest is like we were
together forever since then, I think, so, yeah, just about
we were together for what three years before we got
married pretty much? Yes, yes, so we met in seven

(43:02):
we got we got married in ten ten yep. August
twentieth of ten down here, yep. And by that time
Paul Junior Designs kind of took off.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Two thousand and nine nine we started it, yeah, nine, ten,
no nine.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I mean it was the end of eight when me
and my father parted way as matter of fact, maybe
like it was like it was like three days before
my birthday when me and my father separated. Ways, like
we parted. That was it. Yeah, I never worked for
occ Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah. Then two thousand and nine is when we started
Paul Junior Designs. But you had a one year non compete,
so that's when we started the whole Coleman thing.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And right then we started doing some product design. And
then one year after that, man, we were building bikes.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Oh, getting back to what we first started talking about.
How people think that we met.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Oh, sorry, I got off on a tangent. So that's
how we met.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's how we met.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
How people think we met is we were together for
some time. Yeah, at least like a year or so,
maybe say like a year, and we were doing that
mccuff builds, which was some which was where they put
that like doughnut in the gas tank and it's like
a it's like a paint saver where you know, you
put the nozzle in in like no splash and it
doesn't like get on your paint. I don't really get it.

(44:21):
I didn't get it at the time. I don't know
what happened. Yeah, but they were in need of another
model at the time.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
One girl didn't show up or something.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So, yes, someone didn't show up too, you're right. So
I was like, hey, babe, you know, we're doing this
bike for this company and they're looking for a model.
And you had done modeling when you were younger, when
I was younger, but you were still younger at the time.
You were twenty six years old. So I said, hey,
is this something you want to do and you know work? Sure?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Then you gave me like a little.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Then we gave it yeah, which you knew that. You
knew that he looked great in it. Pay don't make
me go watch that episode all right?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Oh, I think I wanted to kill you. Halfway through.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I was like, what, I know it was in my opinion,
I wish maybe I wouldn't ask you to do it,
because I don't like that people think you're like the
mccuff girl. And like that's how we met. It was
much more organic and it was much more drawn out
than that. But you did look good in that episode.
I'm not gonna lie. We should probably watch it right now. No,

(45:28):
we shouldn't, Oh, fair enough, So that's you know. Mccuff
was just something that you did while we were together.
That was part of the show that I asked you
to do. So in fairness, that's how it worked. But
it certainly wasn't anywhere near how we met. No, but
that's good. We just cleared the air for people.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
It doesn't really matter, does because it's coming. I just
think it's funny how many people mention it. I'm like,
I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
People and they mentioned it like a gotcha. That's the
thing about it.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
It is because like I was like in the background,
like while like Michael was like doing something with it
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
You're like, isn't that Paul's Yes.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
It was like me and the other girl in the background.
I remember I was like holding something. I was thinking,
and there was like a crowd and I was thinking
I might kill you.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It was a little bit much.
I felt bad in the moment. I actually felt bad
and afterwards I felt really bad. When I felt even worse,
like what I do to my future wife here. Yeah, anyways,
that's good. We cleared the air on that. You know,
a man knew who you were, you knew who you

(46:35):
knew who I was when we met. I never watched
you weren't like you weren't like an American Chopper fan.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
No, but I would have had to have lived under
a rock to not.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, at the time we were, we were pretty well known.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Even at the time, like I was like, oh man,
these girls, my gosh, I'm serious man, I was like, wow, soulmate, Yes,
I knew right in that moment, so did you and
so did you Here it was love at first sight,
you know it. Let's talk about that portion of it
right there.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Come on, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I think we were into each other right away. Yeah,
as soon as we met, we had chemistry big time. Yeah, well,
you know, call it whatever you want, but certainly like
there was a connection, like a predestined connection.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, I felt that.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I know, I feel like we got along so well,
like right off the bat, we.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Did we have you know, I'm so calm and collective
and reasonable. Oh yeah, no, seriously when I think about it,
you know, and now here we are fifteen years married,
eighteen years together, eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Seven into seven. So what is that is that? Eighteen years?
It's yeah close to that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, we're getting there.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
It's amazing how time flies. Man. And then we got
this amazing kid. I know, he's the best our son,
Like he is such a gift. He is like, yeah,
I'm telling you, And that kid has made me so proud.
This year was it. Yesterday was his last day of school.
And you know, in the past or he's struggled with

(48:17):
certain things in school, and this year most improved in
his class, most improved in gym class, which he's kind
of like he's like seven foot tall and he's in
fourth grade and he's a big kid. He's very athletic,
but he hasn't showed a lot of interest. But this
year he really improved. Honor roll, Come on, man, this kid.

(48:40):
And you know what the best part is every teacher
says the same thing. He's a great kid. But you
know what, he is so good to all the other kids.
He said this. Every teacher says, this kid has the
biggest heart, and he's the biggest kid in his class.
As matter of fact, he's as big as a sixth graderes.
So his his big heart and generosity. To me, you

(49:03):
don't have to know math, if that's who you are,
you cannot teach that. You can. But when it's built
in like for him, to me, that's the best part.
I love all the grades and the accolades, but the
big hearted nature of that kid. He if you heard
a bug, he will lose it on you an insect.
I mean, he cannot hurt a fly, that kid. And

(49:25):
he will not tolerate any abuse of any type of
any bugs or animals or anything or other people for
that Math yea, you know. So it's pretty good man.
I'm very proud of him. And now it's summer and
we got to do some stuff this year, and.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I'm like, we're going to take advantage of summer.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
We have to this year. I mean, he's like all
legs and arms. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
The day I can't even take it.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
He really is. I'm telling you, he's head and shoulders
taller than every kid in his class.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
He's a men's eight and a half shoe.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, eight and a half that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I know crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I know he wears your shoes.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I know I can fit in his shoes, no problem.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
It's crazy, man. So anyway, well, well, first of all,
let me just address so the fifteen years of marriage
and how have we been able to keep it together? Yeah,
or get along? Right? I think for the most part
it's not always easy.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
No, it's not, but I feel like, I don't know,
we tend to be on the same page and we're
able to work things out. I feel like personality wise,
we I don't know, we just get along well. Work
wise we work together too, which is like crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, so we don't just work right. Very few husband
and wife. Yeah, teams out there are working together, yeah,
work in relationship or two different things, but when they're
kind of blended.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, there's like a blur in those lines, especially because
of what we do. There's no like office hours.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, so that very thing makes us dynamic. Yeah, but
it also adds stress definitely. So we're very good at
working together. But there's no boundary in the way we work.
So our personal relationship and our work tend to kind.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Of like, yeah, there's no division.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
They tend to be one and the same. And the
boundaries aren't really there.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, So it could be like.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
We're trying to figure that out. Honestly, No, because we've
done stuff where we put proposals together for like a
full week for something me and you and he was
off school, yes, and we didn't go anywhere or do
anything because we had a deadline.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
We had a deadline. I have like mom guilt over that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, which is understandable. So like that is the real
give and take of us. But together we're a different
type of formidable person. I think in other words, like
when we work together, we our attributes are complimentary. We
both have really strong God given gifts of creativity, especially

(52:05):
in the same direction, which is like marketing, advertising.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Same language when it comes to that kind of stuff
is not always the case, right.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
We both like theme, which is like you know a
certain style, a certain look, and then you carry that
look out whatever that look is. So we both understand
that way of being creative. We understand it differently because
you understand it better in like space like here, even
though I do too. So we just like your strong
points I'm not as good with. In my strong points,

(52:37):
you're not as good with.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I also feel like we hear from God differently for
different reasons, you know, even like this house we just bought.
I was not convinced, but I realized that your conviction
and your ability to kind of see into the future,
to have a vision for something, and the reasons for it,
which are complicated, did which are more personal, which we

(53:02):
know about your your intentions are really they agreed with me.
I didn't see your vision, but I trusted you. And
that's kind of where we are with the house, Like
I know that you knew that you know that this
is for us and that this here's what the future

(53:22):
looks like now if it's.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Not very like knee jerky about that kind of stuff either,
So not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
A matter of fact, if my wife says something that
is out of the ordinary or I think is out
of character, that's probably when I pay the most attention
to it, because it means to me there's something to it.
Because you're pretty conservative. You're not like wildly emotional about things.
You're you're very calculated. And so that's kind of how

(53:50):
this house started that we just bought. And so even
though I had my own, because I got to work
through it, I got to get there. I got to
get to where you are, but you're very good at
helping me get there, because very quickly, when you started
to lay out the vision for this project and I
call it a project, but it's going to be our home,

(54:12):
I very quickly started to see it. I didn't see
it before that because I didn't have the vision you
did for it. I have a vision for other things.
But now that I'm on board, what are we doing?
We're sending each other, Oh man, the clip this, how
you do that, this type of molding, this paint, this
would work? Look at this new product. So we're both

(54:32):
now in this mode where we're just like building a
portfolio of like everything to it. Yeah, not just what
things might look like, but how we're going to get there.
And that's what I think people are going to find
super fascinating about us, different from a lot of husband
and wife teams who build houses or decorate houses or
whatever they do, because we are more dynamic than anyone

(54:56):
I've seen out there. We just have more versatility, and
we we have a broader range, and I think people
are gonna love to watch us create in this way.
And I think that's gonna what's gonna make this next
show so amazing. All right. So, so the question that
someone had was how you know my mom worked with

(55:16):
us for years when we started Paul Junior Design, she
came in. She was working kind of like a secretary.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yeah, probably like maybe like the second year or so
when we got into the building, she came in.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
That's right. Yes, she came in like two years into
us doing this and we needed someone answer the phones
the show was going. And she also really latched onto
the charitable stuff because my mom was always very charitable, ye,
And so people would put in requests for donation.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
To make it all happen.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
She'd make it all happen. Yeah, they'd send stuff in
to get signed, she'd come out, we'd sign it, she'd
pack it back up and ship. We don't have that anymore,
but but she was a great part of the team
back then too. It was so nice to see her
every day.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I feel like it was really good for her to
see that part of it. Also, because for years before that,
when you were at OCC and there was a lot
of you know, obviously tention fights, all these different things
that kind of were kind of like the forefront of
what people would see a lot. She got to see

(56:20):
like how the show affected people because she'd be reading
all the letters that people would send in this encouraged
me to go into business on my own, or to
start this, or to do that, or chase my dreams
or work with my hands, or even like Christians. So
she was able to see that firsthand.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
What you know, the positive effects of the show. Yeah,
so my mom, you know, with all the fans we
had out there just to set it up. You know,
I grew up with my father and myself arguing a lot.
It was ugly. I'm not going to lie to you.
It was hard on my mom. My father was a

(56:58):
tough person to live with, and me and him went
to battle all the time. And so growing up she
saw us fight like bad and I worked for him
and then I went home and I was under his
roof and there was a lot of years of tension,
and my mother hated that. She didn't understand it. She
didn't grow up in a house like that. There wasn't
a lot of that type of stuff. So I think

(57:21):
for her she just always felt bad about it. Then
when the show comes out, and one of the main
aspects of the show is our fighting fighting, volatility, ugliness
to her. Other people found it endearing and relatable and
maybe they felt like they didn't look so bad some

(57:41):
of them, or maybe they said they're as bad as us.
But whatever it was, we struck a chord with a
large group of people out there globally. But for my mother,
it was never She always didn't like it, and she
thought it was not a good thing. She never thought
it was good, and she's probably right on its face.

(58:02):
But the results and the end result of it was
that people felt more normal. Yeah, that's the bottom line.
And so I think it wasn't until she came to
work for me and she was able to read all
the emails, all the letters, all the people saying you
got me, your show got me through, you know, two

(58:22):
years of treatments just had. There's just piles of that.
Families got together and watched. I was giving birth and
we were watching the show. There's all these things. So
I think when she saw this pile of accolades positivity,
I remember her saying to me, you know forever that
this show really bothered.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Me, and I didn't She didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
She didn't see what was good about it because she
was too close to it. How can a mother see
past that.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah, it's like you're airing your dirty laundry by showing you.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Know, exactly. And it was very unorthodox, Let's be honest.
It was the first of its kind. There was nothing
like it on television or any we're in the world.
We were an anomaly, we were total. There was no precedent.
There really wasn't. So you know, when she starts fielding
all these things and is able to send something to
a sick kid because they're requesting, and all this stuff

(59:15):
poured in, it changed her whole lens on the show
and what it meant to people. And then I think
she started to realize why people love it so much
and why it did so well for so long, you know.
And then you got to bring my father into it,
you know, my mother and father. My father left I
don't know, I was like eighteen, and they were together
like a long time, right, So they were together like

(59:38):
a total like twenty five years, and then he decided
he was going to move on, and he did, And
so I think that was my mother was never that.
My mother was ride or die. She was never going
to leave my father. She was Italian old school like
that was it. One man that was for her, that
was it. She never remarried, dated a little, but very little,

(01:00:00):
and so there was also a little bit of that
in there. She felt the betrayal of the situation or
whatever you want to call it when a divorce happens.
So I feel like that also weighed in heavy. And
I think when she came to work for us, it
kind of like opened her up to like an understanding,
and I think it was very good for her, and
she really enjoyed working for us. And then you guys

(01:00:21):
were able to have a great relationship even though she
was like mama, mama, hen you yeah, I know, she
was a little tough sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Well then you started calling me mama sometimes geez oh, yeah,
we can't both be mama.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
It wasn't always perfect, but it was really good. Yeah,
and my mom was really good and she did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
She did well, witness a lot of the great things
and even bring her and my mom along and those
two partners and crime for the build offs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, they were tough. They were tough, huff together, remember
the first build off. So so Rachel's Mom's name is deb.
My mom is a verb. Yeah, dev is also a verb.
Has to do with deban out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, that's the term.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
That's the term we use. Uh. And then you got
my mom Paula, and they're both kind of like there
were at the build off and it's like, you know,
it's like everybody's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Tension, you know, the first one, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
The first build off two thousand and a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Of stress, it was going to be live. There was
a lot of talking going on behind the scenes and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yep. And they were we were in the hotel and
the two of them, they were they were wandering around
the hotel looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
They also realized that they could get free drinks if
they stayed near the slot machine. Came two cups. I'm like,
what do you guys do it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yeah? Okay, So they had a couple of casino drinks,
some well drinks and uh, and then they decided they
were going to look for Jesse James.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
They found him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They found Jesse James at the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
They both approached him. Yes, yeah, what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
No, your mom was saying, wait, what'd she say? She's
I'm not even going to tell you what we said.
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Oh, she came to us and said, we're not even
going to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
You what we No, no, no, she was talking to
them and she's like, tell him deb, right, yeah, yeah,
how did it go?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I don't know you had it? Oh my gosh, oh,
we're the mothers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
No, that was at the end. Yeah. So they were talking,
you know, blah blah blah, this and that whatever. I'm
not even going to tell you what I what I
think of you or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, they were giving him a hard time and he
was like what no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Oh and then your mom was my mama saying tell
him deb and she's like, you're an asshole?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Is that what they said? They said to him, I
believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I'm telling you our mothers are going to get arrested. Yeah.
So then he was laughing. Apparently these ladies are like yeah,
yeah seriously, and he's like, who.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Are no street cred that day?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
None? Who are you? And they turn around they go,
we're the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Mother were the mothers? They told Jesse James, Oh good
for them, man, go get up mothers. Oh my gosh, yeah,
you could take him down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
They probably.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, I know, I remember they came back told us that, sir.
I was like, you did what?

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
That's so funny. That's who they were though, Man, that's
how they are.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, okay, So I'm just trying to find some questions
here that pertain to both of us. Would you and
Rachel ever build a bike together? She has a sneaky
creative side to her, considering she created the PJD logo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
That's true, you are sneaky.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I'm sneaky.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Damn Yeah. I think we build a bike together.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, I think that would be me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I would really like to build a bike for a
client that is more female oriented in other words, like
maybe they're products cater more they skew more female than.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Male, or even.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Like fashion like some sort of That would be a
perfect example because a lot of these fashion people do
some male You.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Just mentioned something that I think would be fantastic brand wise.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Be the best. I know, it would be the best,
one of the best, right up there with the best.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Ralph Loranz a fricking beast when it comes to fantastic vehicles.
So to do something like with his logo and do
like a bike design that is just on par with
everything he's ever done. Leather is it? Everything would be
the logo done right. It would be fantastic. We could

(01:04:53):
build a work of art together for him. It would
be really fun designing it. Then it would be even
funner building it, and then if he commissioned it, it
would be fantastic to unvaliate at some sort of like
really big event. Yeah, you know, like even if we
built a bike to like match his forty million dollars
Bugatti might even be worth more than that now, but

(01:05:14):
he's got some spectacular cars. I would love to do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Something or just his overall aesthetic I think would be killer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I agree. I think we buill and nail it too,
because his body of work is so profound. Yeah that
I think we can totally adapt to like our skill
sets in line with his style. It would be it
would be out. It would be lights out, man, it
really would be lights out. Or Louis Vuitton. Yeah, that
would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
It would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I think like a big fashion brand if we got
together and did something sick, especially if it was for
like fashion Week or like some big like yeah, like
whatever brand we did that with. I feel like if
we did something like that, it would be the big
standout thing for that event. It would be like super
outside the box for the industry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And like coordinate everything with the unveil outfit wise for sure,
full on, you know, fully integrated.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. That's the kind of
thing I'd like to do together. It'd be fun to
just do something, but it'd be funner to do it
for someone because we're good at that. That's where we're
really good at. Where we're good at taking someone's brand
and infusing it into what we do. We're fully integrating
it into what we do, like in the way of motorcycles,

(01:06:31):
and then really put that out there. It would be splashy, sexy,
super fun, and I think it would get a ton
of attention. Yeah, we've never done that before. We've never
collaborated on a bike.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Thinking about what I've helped with in the past, handful
things here and there, but nothing that we'veg Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Well, I mean, you know, you design the logo and
then like we've done all kinds of other stuff, just
not a motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Guys, Well listen, we appreciate you, uh kind of checking
out that Paul Junior podcast with me and Rachel and
now our little sidekick Max. He should probably be our
logo or something, and we're gonna do a lot more
of these. Man, we're having fun doing it. We can
answer all kinds of questions, we can get into different topics.
I think we might even watch an episode together. I

(01:07:19):
think this is like an endless scenario. And I think
people are, you know, interested in what we have to say,
what we want to talk about, in what's going on
in the future, especially when it comes to television. So
we really appreciate you guys watching. If you're watching this,
like and subscribe please. We really need subscribers and we

(01:07:40):
need you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
To like it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Is that right that I do that? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Like in subscribe what he say? Is that what he
was saying?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Click to follow, click to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Like to subscribe, subscribe to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Like we have to ask cutson.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Oh yeah. So anyways, we really appreciate it and I
will see you next time on the Paul Junior Podcast.