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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's the week of September fourteenth, twenty twenty five, and
this is what's on the People's News. Workers continued to
strike at the Hilton Hotel in Houston. Conservative firebrand Charlie
kirk Hill Texas GOP redistricting and what is next. Versions
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around the world call for the overthrow of the Iranian government.
All that and more on the People's News. I'm Steve Gallington.
This is the People's News, and the People's News starts now.
Union workers of the Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston voted
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to continue their strike until the twentieth of this month.
Union workers walked out on strike, as reported on this show,
fighting for higher wages and more benefit. Some at the
Hilton have not had a raise in more than twenty
plus years they have been with a company. Others work
two or three jobs just to make it buye Unite
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here twenty three, The union representing the workers stated that
the latest negotiations only lasted a short time. Now the
Mayor of Houston, John Whitmyer, is involved by canceling his
State of the Union function at the hotel and the
city run gala that was to be at the hotel.
We talked to Francesca Caraballo, Texas Chapter president of Unite
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Here Local twenty three downtown on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, we decided to extend after you know, having a
conversation with the company and them coming back with you know,
we can't even call it a real offer.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
When we came back to the workers and.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Let them know what the company had said, workers unanimously
said we got to stay out.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We can't go back in. So we decided to extend
to strike ten more days.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Okay, how's it gonna hold up for you guys?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, I mean we're on day stay thirteen and workers
are feeling feeling strong. I mean, it really agitated them
the news from the company, and it just shows that
the workers are standing firm.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They don't want to give up until they get what
they deserve. It's long overdue, so they're willing to do
what it takes.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Did they come and offer anything anything positive?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Or I mean not not really.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I mean they came back with like another fifty cents,
So yeah, I mean they they originally offered fifty cents
at the table, and so that's for.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You're trying to get twenty three, We're trying to get
twenty three. They offered, you know, over a five year span.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They want to They had originally offered three twenty five
over five years.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So some of the.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Workers again they're making sixteen to fifty, so they won't
even make it to twenty by twenty thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sou with the.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
With the offer that they put on the table back
in July, you know, under twenty dollars, we want twenty
three now. So you know, they came back after a
week of striking and said, okay, we'll bump it up
to you know, we'll pump it up another fifty cents basically.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So that wasn't obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Fifty cent straight three years.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's not, it's not it's not immediate.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm not quite sure like how it was going to
be phased in, but I just know the total package
was three seventy five over five years. Obviously, that's that's unacceptable,
that's not that doesn't meet the needs of the workers
living in Houston in twenty.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Twenty five, souh.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, hence why workers were you know, ready to
do whatever it takes, so they voted to extend the strike.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Does this include everybody just play differently, right, Yeah, different classifications.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
More, there are tips, Yeah, there are tipped workers.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So tip workers do make you know, less than the
sixteen fifty hourly workers, but you know, their wages mostly
made up by tips. So but we are fighting for
tip workers. We're fighting for better gratuity, right, we need
higher gratuities. The Hilton is behind when it comes to that.
Most establishments are at least twenty to twenty five you know, gratuities.
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Some of these workers are still having to coast by
on eighteen fifteen. It's just not it's not reasonable at
all for a luxurious hotel like Hilton to refuse to
move up the gratuity. So we're not just ready for
the hourly workers. You know, we're also a union of
tipped employees as well.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
What about the aspect of the mayor support of you guys,
I guess you guys went to city Hall.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, so we went to city Hall.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We backed the room on Tuesday, we had several powerful
speakers share why they're on strike. You know, got some
responses from the from the city count and and the mayor.
But I think workers really felt that boost of support when.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The mayor's announcement came out.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think it was the next day, he announced that
he was postponing his.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
State of the City at at at the Hilton.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's a big move, you know, where the words
maybe didn't satisfy a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That action spoke, you know, spoke louder so that.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Making any statement for the for the Hilton to say
anything about it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I haven't heard any statement from the Hilton, but I
know that it means a lot to the workers that,
you know, the mayor took this action.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And you know, this morning we had the Democra the Harrison.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
County Democratic Party also announced that they're postponing their gala
that was supposed to take place here on the twentieth,
So that really excited the workers. There's a momentum, momentum
right now that the workers are feeling and uh and
are feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Very strong and supported meeting with.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I believe we have some meetings maybe next week. I'm
not too sure, but I believe there's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Some some conversations happening next week.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's going and any possible to come out of.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That or is this a general I think so.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean they have to be feeling the pressure. I mean,
all eyes are on them right now. The city you know,
slowly but surely her coalescing around the workers.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I think that the.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hilton's feeling And how can you not. I mean, it's
a city owned hotel and the city council, the mayor,
the Democratic Party, like, they've come out very strongly in
support of the workers.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I think that's going to move the needle.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
All the hotel explain it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's a yeah, it's owned by the by the City
by Houston First, which is like a quasi you know,
governmental agency, So they are.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The owners of the hotel. Hilton manages the hotel.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We bargain with Hilton, but ultimately Hilly Houston person the
City of Houston have a lot of influence over what
happens here and so for them to you know, take
these actions now, it's it shows, you know, the pressure's
mounting on.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hilton management to come to the table with a real offer.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What do you need is for a support from the community.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, yeah, like I said, we have extended the strike.
Workers are out of work. It's a big sacrifice. So
we do have go fund me out there that's being
shared on social media.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So anybody that could that's a that's the biggest way
to support right now because people still got to pay
their bills and support their family. So we're a lot
of workers are depending on these donations to roll in
and otherwise, I mean coming to the picket line. Sharing,
sharing our stories on social media is a big is.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
A big help as well.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Go fund me is unite here.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, it was created by by us by unite here.
You know, it's on our social media pages.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So social media paree.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Local twenty Yeah, you know, I hear Local twenty three and.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's where you can find find out about donating, yes, correct, Yes, cool,
and they can come down and people want to come
down and help out and do that too.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
We have people coming down every day to the picket line.
We're out here usually from seven am to like seven pm.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We have picket lines.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We do take break because it's hot out here, but
you know, come by and stick around for picketing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That was Francesca Carbalo, Texas Chapter president of unite here
Local twenty three. They are continuing their strike against the
Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston. Their Facebook page is unite
here Local twenty three. There is a school of thought
out there that says to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty,
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we also need to become corrupt, criminal, and cruel To
my very core, I do not believe that to be
the case, so I look for inspiration from others. Let's
take a listen to what Martin Luther King said about
fighting a illegal and corrupt and criminal enemy. One of
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the things I constantly return to during dark times in
my personal and public life is a collection of sermons
written by Martin Luther King Junior called Strength to Love,
and specifically a sermon on loving your enemies. I'm reading
an excerpt from that sermon. To our most bitter opponents,
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we say, we shall match your capacity to inflict suffering
by our capacity to endure suffering. We shall meet your
physical force with soul force. Due to us what you will,
and we shall continue to love you. We cannot, in
all good conscious obey your unjust laws, because non cooperation
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with evil is as much a moral obligation as cooperation
with good. Throw us in jail, and we shall still
love you. Send your hooded perpetrators of violence into our
community at the midnight hour and be eat us and
leave us half dead. And we shall still love you,
but be ye assured that we will wear you down
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by our capacity to suffer. One day we shall win freedom,
but not only for ourselves. We shall so appeal to
your heart and conscience that we shall win you in
the process, and our victory will be a double victory.
Love is the most durable power in the world. White supremacist, misogynist,
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an advocate of violence against woke liberals, Charlie Kirk was
killed while giving a speech at Utah Valley University in Orum, Utah.
Kirk founded Turning Point USA and was a loud and
proud right wing conspiracy theorist and pushed hard for the
release of the Epstein files. We talked to local Republican
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strategist Vlad Daviduk about his death.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah. No, what happened on Wednesday, the tenth of September
will go down as a pivotal inflection point, a tipping
point in American history. I think it's right up there
with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, President Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
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Robert F. Kennedy. I think it ranks up there with
those historical moments, simply because of the tension that we've
we're seeing in society right now in American culture, where
we're very sharply divided. And we saw that very clearly
the election in twenty twenty four when just over half
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of Americans voted for President Trump but just under half
voted for Kamala Harris. So we are a sharply divided nation,
and clearly we do not eyed eye on a huge
array of issues, and we have reached a point where
both sides see the other as not only fundamentally opposite
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and ideologically opposed, but what we have seen increasingly and
recent events really seem to point directly towards radical and
extreme leftism as the primary source of violence in this country,
where we're seeing targeted killings. Yeah, certainly we saw it
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with the murder of the United Healthcare CEO. We saw
it with the attempted assassination of President Trump. Both times
we've seen it. We saw it on that commuter train
in Charlotte where a career criminals had been released by
a Democrat judge slaughtered an innocent twenty three year old
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Ukrainian refugee. And now we see it on Wednesday at
a college campus in Utah where you know what is
now emerging now that the fat has captured. The alleged
assassin appears to be a leftist member of the Democrats
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Democratic Socialist Party who apparently was motivated by hatred who
assassinated Charlie Kirk. So what we're seeing increasingly is a
sharply divided nation where one side is beginning to resort
to violent threats, intimidation, and murder to push forward an agenda.
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And sadly, we're seeing people on the right being targeted
and hunted for standing.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
In the way.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
And it's unfortunate that we've reached this point. We should
not be here, but we need to find a way
to address the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
You say that to be honestly, the the shooter has
not been caught yet, and so I can't say any
speculations on us Democrat or Republican or way what it was.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Well, the SBI, the f guys reporting I was already
held the past conference that they've arrested the the shooter.
He was turned in by his father. He was he
was he was turned in by his father. Thousands of
tips came in, they've they've already identified him. He's he's
a he's a resident of Utah. His name is Tyler Robinson,
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and what we what we're seeing now out Piers Morgan
and other members of the media have already been reporting
that Tyler Robinson, apparently who confessed to his father that
he killed Charlie Kirk, did so because he viewed Charlie
Kirk as a fascist and he hated his opinions. Uh,
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he wanted to silence him and he Uh. Just a
review of his of his social media posts and his
presence on digital media shows that he's a leftist. He's
a member of the Democratic Socialist Party and Socialist Socialist movement.
And if increasingly that seems to the pattern that we're
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seeing across the nation where I mean, just recently we
saw a trans several violent incidents involving trans shooters, most
recently in in a in a church where trans shooter
shot through a window, killing kids. So we're seeing we're
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seeing also you're.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Also forgetting some of some of the incidents that that
people from the right have done also, especially in Minnesota,
was shooting in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well, and that that has not that's still in the
process of being investigated. That there's a lot of questions
regarding that. What we're talking about is what we're talking
about the things that happened most recently, which has been
leading which which which led up to this event that
happened on Wednesday, And so you know, it's it's becoming
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increasingly there are incidents that we can point to where
someone whosified with the rights politically has been involved in
an act of violence and the act of aggression. But
what we're seeing is we're seeing a very skewed balance.
We're increasingly what we're seeing is those who have engaged
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in this behavior appear to be people not either either
politically aligned with the left or who have identified identified
with a perspective and opinions that are antithetical or hostile
to the right. So it may not necessarily be that
they are adherents of leftist politics, but they are opposed
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and hostile to those who are on the conservative side
of the of the political aisle.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You don't think the president has inflamed a lot of
the divide the devices some of the things that you
said in the past.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I find it difficult to believe that anyone, much less
the President, expressing an opinion on an issue would be
a rationale for the kind of violence that we're seeing.
I can understand if the President of the United States
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or anyone else says anything that is contrary to a
particular opinion or a particular perspective, I can see that
leading to political action. I can see that leading to
grassroots or community based action. But what we're seeing almost
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on a consistent basis is people on the right speak,
and people on what something is people on the left
take violent action, and so it's become increasingly disparate and
unbalanced with regard to the outcome.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
That we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
So does President Trump say things that are inflammatory, yes.
Does President Trump say things that lead people to feel
emotions of frustration and anger, yes, Do any of those
things justify the kind of violence that we're seeing perpetrated
across our country. Absolutely not. And so we can't equate
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the actions of one side with the actions of the
other side. I think that what we've what we're missing.
The point of American democracy is to engage and debate,
find common ground, seek consensus, and work to build solutions
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that lift up the majority of the people. And while
while while many are continuing to engage in trying to
achieve exactly that, what we're seeing increasingly on the other side,
is very hostile response.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Engaged into violence, eating their opposition with.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Uh the worst of the worst, and inciting others and
emboldening and enabling others to carry out horrible acts of
violence and atrocities that are affecting people across the country.
It has to stop.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I'll leave it at that, Doctor Adam says, Hi, by
the way, I will say that, I will say this.
When I was talking to him about redistricting, he made
some of the points that you made, even though he
is on on on the liberal side. Yea, he made
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some of the same points you made on the on
the aspect of redistricting and timing of using the Sensus
as account.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
So you guys page like it or not, that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Yeah, I got to have you guys on at.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
The same time at some point.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I think that would be great. And you know, it's
interesting you mentioned him as a liberal. What we've seen
in America is that liberals and conservatives have a way
of working together, finding solutions, trying to find a compromise,
and trying to create opportunities for the vast majority. But
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we're not seeing We should not equate liberals with leftists,
because what we're seeing now is there there is a
there is another stripe of people on the left who
are not liberals, They're not Democrats, they're hardcore leftists, and
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that's where we're seeing the vast majority of this violence
come from. So, you know, I want to make absolutely clear,
Republicans have very little problem with liberals. We can handle
a regular liberal who just believes shares a lot of
the same values, just has a different perspective on how
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we solve some of the problems. But leftists are an
entirely different breed. And regarding what we saw happen in
Utah with Charlie Kirk and now the arrest of alleged
assassin Tyler Robinson, what we're seeing is we're seeing violent
leftists who are carrying out acts of violence because they
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have been emboldened and they have been enabled by people
saying that Republicans conservatives are fascists, not conservatives or Nazis.
Donald Trump is a dictator. This is the right wing
white supremacy movement. And when you tell people on the
left like that, when you tell them those words repeatedly,
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they feel that they have permission, They feel that they
have a calling they feel that they have a mission
to go out and create these acts of violence and
to carry out these acts of violence, and so that
that's what we need to find a way to stop.
I think if liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats can
work together to find solutions for that and to work
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on minimizing and eradicating violent leftism, I think we'll make
a huge progress for our country. So, you know, I
have no problem with doctor Ava, you know, being a liberal.
I'm I'm a conservative. I think we can find ways
to work together, but but our country needs to really
find a way to stop radical leftists.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Uh. And the way I always called you a liberal conservative.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
That's that's that's definitely one way. That's definitely one way
to to to think about it. I've always considered myself
to be a a rational conservative because I think that
we have we have issues that we need to solve.
We can't just say no, we're not going to do
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anything about any of it. So we need to we
need to find solutions. But we can't do it if
if if one side is calling us, you know, a
blanket term Nazis or fascists, and that we're basically there's
no reason and to allow us to keep living so,
and we need to find a way to make that stop.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That was Republican strategist vlad David Duk on the death
of Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed on Wednesday.
There is a school of thought out there that says
to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty, we also need to
become corrupt, criminal, and cruel. To my very core, I
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do not believe that to be the case, so I
look for inspiration from others. Let's take a listen to
what Martin Luther King said about fighting a illegal and
corrupt and criminal enemy. One of the things I constantly
returned to during dark times in my personal and public
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life is a collection of sermons written by Martin Luther
King Junior called Strength to Love, and specifically a ger
on loving your enemies. I'm reading an excerpt from that sermon.
To our most bitter opponents, we say we shall match
your capacity to inflict suffering by our capacity to endure suffering.
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We shall meet your physical force with soul force. Do
to us what you will, and we shall continue to
love you. We cannot, in all good conscious obey your
unjust laws, because non cooperation with evil is as much
a moral obligation as cooperation with good. Throw us in jail,
(25:36):
and we shall still love you. Send your hooded perpetrators
of violence into our community at the midnight hour and
beat us and leave us half dead, and we shall
still love you. But be ye assured that we will
wear you down by our capacity to suffer. One day
we shall win freedom, but not only for ourselves. We
(25:59):
shall so appeal to your heart and conscience that we
shall win you in the process, and our victory will
be a double victory. Love is the most durable power
in the world. Hi, this is Steve Gallington, producer and
host of The People's News. The People's News is people
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one hour episodes of The People's News drop each Sunday
on The People's News podcast. Thanks for listening. The convicted
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felon Trump demanded it, and GOP Governor Greg Abbott and
the Texas GOP bowed to his wishes and passed redistricting
in a explosive special session. These newly approved maps which
give five more safe Republican districts to the convicted felon
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and to the Republican Party for Democrats, who are the
slim majority in the state. It affects minority communities, especially
around Dallas and Houston. For example, longtime Congressman Al Green
has had his district expanded to include Liberty County, which
is a Republican leaning area. Doctor Michael O. Adams is
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the director of the Master of Public Affairs graduate program
at Texas Southern University's Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland's School of
Public Affairs. He has been speaking on the issue and
the future of democracy in Texas.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Yeah, that's a good question, because, of course, in Houston
you have the largest concentration of African Americans or Blacks
in this area out of one of two metroplexes, the
otherland being up in the Dallas Footwork Metroplexic and ironically
both of those were impacted with the redistricting process. And
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I'll move from Houston to talk about Dallas and how
that's implicated both Dallas County and Terran County. But I've
been interviewed back and forth on this, and what I
always like to suggest, I think what we're seeing here
is a classic case or a master class in terms
of vote manipulation, in terms of where given the growth
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of Latinos and the black population in Texas following the
last census count and I think it was over increase
of over a million, there has been a concerted design
not only with this recycle of redistricting, but the last
mass of the twenty twenty one mass that were drawn.
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They are curently in litigation in federal coup in El Paso.
And so the Republican Party understands the growth of the
minority population in the state of Texas, who more than
likely will not be Republican voters. So what they've done
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is to excuse me to manipulate the mass to make
sure that they would have a parson advantage inside of
these congressional districts. Now, the other part of that, we
know that we have a midterm election coming up, and
as the President of the United States, Donald Trump actually
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reached out to Greg Abbott and said that, well, hey,
I need five more seats. And as a result of that,
we knew that there was going to be a special
session to deal with the devastating floods that we have
and I think more than one hundred people may have
lost their lives, lives are they're missing, And so the
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legislature goes back into special session. And when they're in
the special session, UH, the registricting charge is added to
the agenda. And as we know, UH that only the
governor in the state of Texas. This is by the law,
and I teach teach this in Texas politics, only the
governor can call and convene a special session. And while
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they're in special session, UH, they're confined to the governor's agenda,
and if something needs to be added, is up to
the governor to add that agenda. So that's that's why
we hear UH in terms of looking at the redistrictant.
Now moving forward, do you do you do you have
a question or you want me to move to Houston
and talk about the impact in terms of.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Well, I was just I was just curious if if
if Trump didn't didn't put this on the on the
on the on the plate, would we have had a
special session?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Now we were going to have a special session anyway
to deal with the floods. All right, the question would
from you, uh, would be would the district have been
on the special session agenda? Is that understanding what you're asking?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically didn't have Oh if we didn't
have this flood, would we have had a special session?
Of gain with you? What do you just what do
you still call a special session?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Well, most people don't understand. According to the US Constitution,
we are supposed to count the population based on what
we call a decential basis. That's every ten years. That's
in the Constitution to deal with the apportionment of the
House of Representatives in terms of we count people. And
I tell my students all the time because sometimes redistricting
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is not understood, and I'm hoping what the only positive
things can come from this is that people will know
about redistricting and how the implications that had for politics
h and how it governs their lives and also in
terms of resources coming into their state. All right, now,
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we have five hundred and thirty five members of the Congress,
and we have a bi camer Congress, two chambers in
the House of Representatives. The representation there is based upon
population is proportional and in all four hundred and thirty
five members of the House of Representatives should represent approximately
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the same number of people. So we know that people
move in population swales, all right. So we've seen growth
in population in California, which is the largest in terms
of population. They have the largest delegation of more than
fifty members of the Congress of the House Representatives. And
then the state of Texas we have thirty eight and
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the population there. In Florida, the population is gone. So
people will move from Rush Belts states, they'll come from Michigan,
they'll come from other people. So those states can lose representation.
Because what you do how you get to the desirable
number of how many people each member of the House
of Representatives should represent. You take four thirty five and
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you divide that into the population of the United States
of America, and so the ideal population will be between
eight hundred and nine hundred thousand for each congressional district.
And that's the way we come up with that number,
all right. And there's no mathematical exactness, like we'll say
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eight fifty if that's the number. We know that CIVI
or Garcia may have eight forty, or Algreen could have
eight twenty, So the Supreme Court will allow for what
we call some deviation, and normally that deviation is within
ten percent. However, you cannot have one member of Congress
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represents any four hundred people, and if you have one
of the other congress persons representing eight hundred, because why
because a person with one hundred four hundred here's or
her vote would be twice the impact. So it has
to be equal in terms of population. So that's the
standard formula, and so people have to understand that. So
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when they draw these districts. Now, the US Supreme Court
doesn't restrict them from calling redistricting the districts at any time,
and most people understand that. And normally what has happened
in the past is after the census has taken every
ten years, that's in your basis, that's in the constitution.
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Where then after that, normally during the first year twenty
twenty one when Texas did it, that's when they will
draw new maps to account for population changes, all right,
And so what we have seen in recent years is
mid term redistricting. And I'm going around in the world
and answer your question, because first I'm an academic and
(35:02):
I'm a professor, and I have to teach you all
of these things, right, So, uh, yes, it's nothing wrong
with what they're doing in terms of redistrictings. So to
answer your question, what they have done and now I
don't think so if if TOOMP had not to make
that call. So that's what.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, you mentioned. You mentioned the Supreme Court and the Constitution,
And what I've seen is that what this president has
done is rechanged and restructure the Constitution and restructure the
Supreme Court all decisions that's that they're being made right now.
So you might want to explain how some people say this.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Is racist, Well, well, you know, I have to and again,
and I think that's one of the reasons I said
that I wasn't going to talk about what happened with
Charlie Kirk and whatever. But we get a lot of
misinformation and everything. Right now, you don't restructure as a
formal process for restructure and changing the Constitution, we call
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that the amendment process. If they want to do a
total reright, they have to have a convention. Now they
prevent provisions in the Constitution for doing both of those things.
All right now, the Constitution is a living document that
is subject to interpretation. And we believe that we're supposed
to have this neutral Supreme Court or this umpire if
(36:27):
you will, which is the third branch of government, and
it was given the power of judicial review. That's what means.
It has the power to interpret the Constitution and also
deal with federal questions or disputes between states. Now is
the Supreme Court politicized? Are they human beings? Yes, they are.
They come with persuasion and the presidents will appoint people
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to the Supreme Court based upon whether or not those
potential justices that they place on the bench will reflect
what we call their judicial temperament. Now what do we
mean by the judicial temperament. That's a philosophical point of
view in terms of politics, whether they're a liberal, conservative,
or Republican. What we have seen in recent years, and
(37:14):
Obama didn't get the right to appoint Merry Galland, but
we've seen I don't want to say the packing of
the court, but adding of a Republican majority. And Trump
was able to add members to the Supreme Court, and
we had one the senator from Kentucky was Adam On
but then allow Obama to appoint Mary Garland. But however,
(37:41):
I think you can't just really blame the senator from Kentucky.
But ruthe batea Ginsburg. She just stayed on there forever,
all right, and then when she came off, that allows somebody.
So some of these times, if you're strategic, if you're
a Supreme Court justice, and you know you're a liberal persuasion,
and if you have a person, if you're believing in
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terms of a Democrat, would appoint somebody more left the
center as opposed to being a writer center, then why
you just don't stay on message forever? All right? So
you come off all right. So that's what we've seen
in terms of the remaking of the court, all right.
But Trump is not changing the constitution all right in
terms of the right as a formal process for that then,
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But he's writing a lot of executive orders to get
around a number of things now and when these challenges
are calling into place, he's winning in the Supreme Court
because there's a court that is more of a kind
of conservative Supreme Court right to the right, right, some
people say extreme. So I'll start there right talk about
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Texas in terms of how the maps in terms of
what we see in Houston.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, I want to talk about that. But also
I just want to back up a bit that when
you say Gainsburg to to the to the left earlier,
I mean I don't understand. I mean she didn't know
what health was gonna get. We're gonna get his as
he was. I've heard criticism admiration for her, right, But
(39:15):
when you know that you're an objective, uh, after you
know you're in your eighties or whatever, just like Biden,
we can go. And we saw uh, his vice president
release a book this week, and now she's come out
and said something that it was basically a disaster for
him to stay there that long. And I'm talking about
Kamala Harris in terms of talking bike right.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Uh and and and some people are speaking out in
terms of what we may see, what's gonna what's gonna
happen in the eighteenth congressional district. And I'll get more
into that because al Green's district, a sizeable portion from
the ninth has been moved into the eighteenth County. Gotten
that when you when we talk about we distant, you
should have booked me for the day because that's a
lot that's that's taken place as a result of this.
(39:56):
So let's go back to the mass. Let's start in Houston. Person,
I tell you it's become with the new mass would
become Republican, right, because they've included more Republican voters. And
so they took a large chunk out of the ninth
Congressional district, the black people moved them into the eighteenth
Congressional district. So the eighteenth Congressional district will remain even
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under the new MAST, a majority opportunity district for black people,
all right. Actually it increased the numbers because they were
more Hispanics than blacks in the under the current configuration
of the district. Okay, and so what would do we
call that, Well, in redistrict and parlass, we call call
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that cracking and packing. So they cracked the nineteenth, took
the black voters, moved them into the eighteenth. So they
packed that concentrated them, all right, as opposed to splitting
them up having more blacks in the night district where
you get too black members of Congress, Now you will
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only have one that was the aim, and that will
probably will be the eighteenth Congressional District. That's where they
move most of the black folks out of the ninth
congrati district out of that. Now, whether they do for
the twenty ninth district, they move more Latinos in that district,
and it gives the appearance that it's a Hispanic opportunity district.
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What we mean by what I mean by opportunity district
is where Hispanic candidates were to run and then they
have a good chance of winning a majority in terms
of the voting age population, voting age populations people eighteen
years of age older and registered voters. Well, a large
number of citizens in the twenty nine and even in
the ninth district to a certain extent, they may not
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even be citizens, or the voting age population may not
be may not favor Hispanics. So that's an illusion there.
What they did to the twenty nine, they did leave
a significant black population in that and then runs on
the north side. And what I think could happened is
that a black person could win that Democratic primary in
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the twenty ninth district, And there are a number of
people I know who are looking into it. I think
Javis Johnson is maybe considering running for the twenty ninth
as opposed to running for the eighteen congressional district because
he didn't file for the eighteen congressional district in the
primary because Latinos and Hispanics they don't turn out, and
so that may be one of the problems. So if
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the black people in that newly configured twenty ninth districts,
the one that Sylvia Garcia represents, now, if they turned
out in the primary, which will more than life, it'll
be a low turnout election. All right, you can nominate
a black person. So that's where we are in the
Houston area in terms of the implication of the new maps,
(42:57):
of the new maps, but it's going to so it's
a ball of fusion because you have this special elections
for the alternacy and people in the eighteenth congressional district.
So oh no, I don't know. Then they change my Matt,
So they're listening to what happened recently. But no, they're
still in the eighteenth.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Congressional district as it currently exists, so they'll be able
to build it in that. But whoever win that election
will have to come right back and fiul you know,
in December before yeah, right after the election, they have
to file to run in the in the twenty twenty
six primaries, and so what I'm saying the person.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Who win, and we know that's people in the league
who have the best chances. Krista Menafee, Amanda Edwards and
the month here. Lace is running as a Republican and
we have some independence running right, but they're going to
have to come back and they have a face al Green.
So that's what I'm saying because Al Green, you know
(43:57):
people that power, man, you know, you get addicted to it.
You don't want to lead Congress, right, you don't want
to retire. So so that's where we are in terms
of today.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
That was doctor Michael O. Adams. He is the director
of the Master of Public Affairs Graduate program at TSU's
Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs. The bombing
of Iran by the US and Israel set off alarms
around the world and ignited protests, but one community stood
firm as an advocate of regime change in the country.
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The Persian community in the US is standing strong in
their denouncement of the regime in Iran and the need
for a replacement. There have been protests around the country
and the world from the Persian community calling for more
governments to participate in overthrowing the current Iranian regime in Texas.
We talked to one person that represents the Persian community,
(44:52):
Kareem Sanjanay with the Iran Solidarity American Community of Texas.
Speaker 7 (44:59):
Thank go short for everything you do. I appreciate that
for your concern and your support. However, yes, and this
is Kareem Zangane with the Iranian American Communities of Texas
and the supporting the n cri I National Council of
Resistance of Iran. The only alternative that this organized is
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strong inside Iran that we're hoping that soon overthrow this
fascist regime. So yes, we had this huge gathering demonstration,
tens of thousands of Iranians from around the Europe. They
come to Brussel and supporting the n cri I and
(45:51):
celebrating the sixties birthday of any k Mu driving help
when they formed in the previous dictatorship and against the
show they've fired for fourteen years and then now forty
seven years fighting against this fascist regime, this regime because
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it's vulnerable. In week, especially in the last twelve days
of war, it was shown to the entire world that
how weak and vulnerable they are. However, they are escalating
the killing people. Institution is every day, fifteen twenty whatever,
the execute every day in order to keep the people
(46:35):
from off of the street, because the people really to
overthrow the regime. So this is the situation he has
like were condemning, were condemning this. We have another demonstration,
by the way, it's coming on in New York in
front of you, and for General Assembly that is going
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on twenty four in front of you. And for the
same purpose as we are asking this administration to to
not give the visa to this creamin of that who
come to the United States, and they have to given
(47:19):
the platform to to lie to the world leaders about
the situation that is going on in ill So we
we have, you know, as you know, in this doministation
that we have, we had in the lusion. You have
the great guests, we have Vice President Pence, we have Bipolis,
(47:44):
and by the way, we have Vice President and Pence.
We have a Speaker of the Speaker and the Leader
of the Chief of the United Kingdom Parliament. I believe
ten fifty in years mister John Big Big Coup, and
(48:07):
then the Pathrick Patrick Trinity for example, and many orders
that they're supporting. And they were there with Miss Mariam
Graderi and they speak to the to the demonstrators. So
this is what will happened last last weekend and and
Toori and plenty for are going in new and that's
going to be huge. I would like to keep us
(48:29):
as if you can, that could be a great support.
So yeah, we are we are demanding region changes ran.
We we say there is no one needed the we
and we we don't need any support of any.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Kind of.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Support as far as the money or weapon war is necessary.
We are we we say there is an option that
is a third option that our resistance is. Option for
Iran is just support people to overthrow the region. Recognize
(49:08):
the rights of people to overthrow the regime. This is
what we want from this administration or any other administration too,
to lead this this legitimate right. So we said that
(49:30):
in the we be saying because this is the fact
that there is only one alternative, Richard, that is the
you have experience, they have vision, they have ten ten
point planned for the future Iran, which is the power
(49:50):
is going to go through the people rather than to
be either in monarchy or this region fascist regime. So
that's what we say is and the people, the people
want to have a democratic, secular, nonpublish that's what it is.
That the people no to sha, no to mon. That
(50:13):
that's how their slogan is in over over Iran. If
you have any particular question, I'd be glad to.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
I mean, you said that, you said that.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
You can, you don't.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
You don't need any arms, you don't need any type
of military backing. How would you well around around right now?
I still have one of the largest armies in the
in the in the world and they have uh foxy
proxy groups that work with you. So how how are
(50:48):
you how are you going to go in Ran and
take over the country again without any type of military backing?
Speaker 7 (50:56):
Okay, se very great, great question. Actually this is question
that the many many people even are politicians here. So
you know, first of all, you know, the most power
in any country is the power of people. That's the
number one number. This regime is being shown, especially after
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twelve days of war after his Bola it was demolished
after the assad that it was the they are and
we all thought he has some power. But in ten
days the class this is this was the multi billion
dollar money that they spent not only on atomic project
(51:40):
but also on bachoral Asad and all evaporate. So you know,
now if the world knows, that's how vulnerable and and
week this regime is, and that's how the people. People
are iron they understand that. That's why they are in
the street. That's why the regime find out. The only
(52:01):
the only pool I have to send the power is
to execute people. Since since in the since this president
came into power, for about the year, about seventeen hundred people,
seventeen hundred people have been executed. Why people doesn't have electricity,
(52:23):
doesn't have water, doesn't have bread on the table. We
mentioned that before. And this regime is it cannot provide
any of that. The only thing is to execute people
to stay in the power. So yeah, people are in
the street. There is no war, there is no war needed.
The biggest war is between the Iranian people and against
(52:44):
the regime.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
That's the biggest war.
Speaker 7 (52:46):
The main thing is that in any foreign countries to
go in and have war which is not needed, they
need to just support morally, recognize the right of people
to work through a decision, right of the people to
confront the IRGC as they are in why they don't
(53:08):
support the people and the right to confront the IRGC
to work throughout. I understand that, but you're you it's
the idea, that's the idea of you would think that
you know that you have people to support, and that's
not all the people are going to come out and
support support a new regime. One two.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
The people that that that you say will come out, Uh,
A lot is still divided into different different factions. And
and to say that, to say that everybody assigned with
a signe, which your faction is kind of it is
saying a lot, you know, was asking a lot from
the people there. And also we notice ecret police and
(53:55):
ran right now, how they operate. You know, they have
no problem taking people into the jails. So again, you know,
militarily you're saying that you don't need anything, you know,
but I was, I'm looking at the reality of the
whole situation.
Speaker 7 (54:16):
No, it does exactly, That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, Richard,
you know the factor that it is last majority of
the people. If I tell you over ninety five personal
people doesn't want this regime. They are against them because
they cannot provide them the simplest things, as far as
(54:37):
it was an electricity and clear here bread and the
long time eight percent of the people on the poverty line,
I mean severe pacty line, not the policy line that
you'd explained here, the severe poverty line. So people are
against them, people are against them, and then and the
(55:00):
regime is weak. Yeah, how much they can take to
the jail, how much they can execute, you know, So
that's that's the only tool they have. What we do,
what they're asking the Western country and the United States
of America from both both parties, so to to support
the rights of the people to overthrow the regime, because
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this regime is shown that it's not only enemy of
the Iranian people, but is enemy of the peace and
security and the stability of anywhere in the in the
in the region and around the world. Tororism is the
tool they have abroad and killing execution of the people
inside Iran. So those are has to be recognized by
Western country world. So the little Iranian decisions for themselves,
(55:48):
as you know, you know, well, you know, in fifty
seventy three people uprising for them and the monarchy, but
state and UK intervention and then they the coup and
(56:10):
I'm brought down the democratic and doctor Mossade you know that. Well,
so we don't want that. People are now they know
what they want. They want freedom and democracy, and they
want the free world to support them morally. That's the
best way with no cost to the United States, with
no cost to go to war, with no cost in
(56:32):
for any country.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
All Right, see, I'm gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
Thank you so much for taking phone call. I have
to shay that again, Richard, and thank you so much
for everything you do. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
That was Kareem Sanjaney with the Iran Solidarity American Community
of Texas who says it's time for change in Iran.
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It's the week of September fourteenth, twenty twenty five, and
this is what's on the People's News. Workers continued to
strike at the Hilton Hotel in Houston. Conservative firebrand Charlie
kirk Hill Texas GOP redistricting and what is next. Versions
(00:25):
around the world call for the overthrow of the Iranian government.
All that and more on the People's News. I'm Steve Gallington.
This is the People's News, and the People's News starts now.
Union workers of the Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston voted
(00:49):
to continue their strike until the twentieth of this month.
Union workers walked out on strike, as reported on this show,
fighting for higher wages and more benefit. Some at the
Hilton have not had a raise in more than twenty
plus years they have been with a company. Others work
two or three jobs just to make it buye Unite
(01:12):
here twenty three, The union representing the workers stated that
the latest negotiations only lasted a short time. Now the
Mayor of Houston, John Whitmyer, is involved by canceling his
State of the Union function at the hotel and the
city run gala that was to be at the hotel.
We talked to Francesca Caraballo, Texas Chapter president of Unite
(01:34):
Here Local twenty three downtown on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, we decided to extend after you know, having a
conversation with the company and them coming back with you know,
we can't even call it a real offer.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
When we came back to the workers and.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Let them know what the company had said, workers unanimously
said we got to stay out.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We can't go back in. So we decided to extend
to strike ten more days.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Okay, how's it gonna hold up for you guys?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, I mean we're on day stay thirteen and workers
are feeling feeling strong. I mean, it really agitated them
the news from the company, and it just shows that
the workers are standing firm.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They don't want to give up until they get what
they deserve. It's long overdue, so they're willing to do
what it takes.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Did they come and offer anything anything positive?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Or I mean not not really.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I mean they came back with like another fifty cents,
So yeah, I mean they they originally offered fifty cents
at the table, and so that's for.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You're trying to get twenty three, We're trying to get
twenty three. They offered, you know, over a five year span.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They want to They had originally offered three twenty five
over five years.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So some of the.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Workers again they're making sixteen to fifty, so they won't
even make it to twenty by twenty thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sou with the.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
With the offer that they put on the table back
in July, you know, under twenty dollars, we want twenty
three now. So you know, they came back after a
week of striking and said, okay, we'll bump it up
to you know, we'll pump it up another fifty cents basically.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So that wasn't obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Fifty cent straight three years.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's not, it's not it's not immediate.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm not quite sure like how it was going to
be phased in, but I just know the total package
was three seventy five over five years. Obviously, that's that's unacceptable,
that's not that doesn't meet the needs of the workers
living in Houston in twenty.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Twenty five, souh.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, hence why workers were you know, ready to
do whatever it takes, so they voted to extend the strike.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Does this include everybody just play differently, right, Yeah, different classifications.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
More, there are tips, Yeah, there are tipped workers.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So tip workers do make you know, less than the
sixteen fifty hourly workers, but you know, their wages mostly
made up by tips. So but we are fighting for
tip workers. We're fighting for better gratuity, right, we need
higher gratuities. The Hilton is behind when it comes to that.
Most establishments are at least twenty to twenty five you know, gratuities.
(04:26):
Some of these workers are still having to coast by
on eighteen fifteen. It's just not it's not reasonable at
all for a luxurious hotel like Hilton to refuse to
move up the gratuity. So we're not just ready for
the hourly workers. You know, we're also a union of
tipped employees as well.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
What about the aspect of the mayor support of you guys,
I guess you guys went to city Hall.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, so we went to city Hall.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We backed the room on Tuesday, we had several powerful
speakers share why they're on strike. You know, got some
responses from the from the city count and and the mayor.
But I think workers really felt that boost of support when.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The mayor's announcement came out.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think it was the next day, he announced that
he was postponing his.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
State of the City at at at the Hilton.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's a big move, you know, where the words
maybe didn't satisfy a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That action spoke, you know, spoke louder so that.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Making any statement for the for the Hilton to say
anything about it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I haven't heard any statement from the Hilton, but I
know that it means a lot to the workers that,
you know, the mayor took this action.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And you know, this morning we had the Democra the Harrison.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
County Democratic Party also announced that they're postponing their gala
that was supposed to take place here on the twentieth,
So that really excited the workers. There's a momentum, momentum
right now that the workers are feeling and uh and
are feeling.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Very strong and supported meeting with.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I believe we have some meetings maybe next week. I'm
not too sure, but I believe there's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Some some conversations happening next week.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's going and any possible to come out of.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That or is this a general I think so.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean they have to be feeling the pressure. I mean,
all eyes are on them right now. The city you know,
slowly but surely her coalescing around the workers.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I think that the.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hilton's feeling And how can you not. I mean, it's
a city owned hotel and the city council, the mayor,
the Democratic Party, like, they've come out very strongly in
support of the workers.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I think that's going to move the needle.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
All the hotel explain it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's a yeah, it's owned by the by the City
by Houston First, which is like a quasi you know,
governmental agency, So they are.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The owners of the hotel. Hilton manages the hotel.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We bargain with Hilton, but ultimately Hilly Houston person the
City of Houston have a lot of influence over what
happens here and so for them to you know, take
these actions now, it's it shows, you know, the pressure's
mounting on.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hilton management to come to the table with a real offer.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What do you need is for a support from the community.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, yeah, like I said, we have extended the strike.
Workers are out of work. It's a big sacrifice. So
we do have go fund me out there that's being
shared on social media.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So anybody that could that's a that's the biggest way
to support right now because people still got to pay
their bills and support their family. So we're a lot
of workers are depending on these donations to roll in
and otherwise, I mean coming to the picket line. Sharing,
sharing our stories on social media is a big is.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
A big help as well.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Go fund me is unite here.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, it was created by by us by unite here.
You know, it's on our social media pages.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So social media paree.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Local twenty Yeah, you know, I hear Local twenty three and.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's where you can find find out about donating, yes, correct, Yes, cool,
and they can come down and people want to come
down and help out and do that too.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
We have people coming down every day to the picket line.
We're out here usually from seven am to like seven pm.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We have picket lines.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We do take break because it's hot out here, but
you know, come by and stick around for picketing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That was Francesca Carbalo, Texas Chapter president of unite here
Local twenty three. They are continuing their strike against the
Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston. Their Facebook page is unite
here Local twenty three. There is a school of thought
out there that says to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty,
(08:37):
we also need to become corrupt, criminal, and cruel To
my very core, I do not believe that to be
the case, so I look for inspiration from others. Let's
take a listen to what Martin Luther King said about
fighting a illegal and corrupt and criminal enemy. One of
(09:01):
the things I constantly return to during dark times in
my personal and public life is a collection of sermons
written by Martin Luther King Junior called Strength to Love,
and specifically a sermon on loving your enemies. I'm reading
an excerpt from that sermon. To our most bitter opponents,
(09:23):
we say, we shall match your capacity to inflict suffering
by our capacity to endure suffering. We shall meet your
physical force with soul force. Due to us what you will,
and we shall continue to love you. We cannot, in
all good conscious obey your unjust laws, because non cooperation
(09:46):
with evil is as much a moral obligation as cooperation
with good. Throw us in jail, and we shall still
love you. Send your hooded perpetrators of violence into our
community at the midnight hour and be eat us and
leave us half dead. And we shall still love you,
but be ye assured that we will wear you down
(10:08):
by our capacity to suffer. One day we shall win freedom,
but not only for ourselves. We shall so appeal to
your heart and conscience that we shall win you in
the process, and our victory will be a double victory.
Love is the most durable power in the world. White supremacist, misogynist,
(10:31):
an advocate of violence against woke liberals, Charlie Kirk was
killed while giving a speech at Utah Valley University in Orum, Utah.
Kirk founded Turning Point USA and was a loud and
proud right wing conspiracy theorist and pushed hard for the
release of the Epstein files. We talked to local Republican
(10:53):
strategist Vlad Daviduk about his death.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah. No, what happened on Wednesday, the tenth of September
will go down as a pivotal inflection point, a tipping
point in American history. I think it's right up there
with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, President Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
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Robert F. Kennedy. I think it ranks up there with
those historical moments, simply because of the tension that we've
we're seeing in society right now in American culture, where
we're very sharply divided. And we saw that very clearly
the election in twenty twenty four when just over half
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of Americans voted for President Trump but just under half
voted for Kamala Harris. So we are a sharply divided nation,
and clearly we do not eyed eye on a huge
array of issues, and we have reached a point where
both sides see the other as not only fundamentally opposite
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and ideologically opposed, but what we have seen increasingly and
recent events really seem to point directly towards radical and
extreme leftism as the primary source of violence in this country,
where we're seeing targeted killings. Yeah, certainly we saw it
(12:36):
with the murder of the United Healthcare CEO. We saw
it with the attempted assassination of President Trump. Both times
we've seen it. We saw it on that commuter train
in Charlotte where a career criminals had been released by
a Democrat judge slaughtered an innocent twenty three year old
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Ukrainian refugee. And now we see it on Wednesday at
a college campus in Utah where you know what is
now emerging now that the fat has captured. The alleged
assassin appears to be a leftist member of the Democrats
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Democratic Socialist Party who apparently was motivated by hatred who
assassinated Charlie Kirk. So what we're seeing increasingly is a
sharply divided nation where one side is beginning to resort
to violent threats, intimidation, and murder to push forward an agenda.
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And sadly, we're seeing people on the right being targeted
and hunted for standing.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
In the way.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
And it's unfortunate that we've reached this point. We should
not be here, but we need to find a way
to address the situation.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
You say that to be honestly, the the shooter has
not been caught yet, and so I can't say any
speculations on us Democrat or Republican or way what it was.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Well, the SBI, the f guys reporting I was already
held the past conference that they've arrested the the shooter.
He was turned in by his father. He was he
was he was turned in by his father. Thousands of
tips came in, they've they've already identified him. He's he's
a he's a resident of Utah. His name is Tyler Robinson,
(14:40):
and what we what we're seeing now out Piers Morgan
and other members of the media have already been reporting
that Tyler Robinson, apparently who confessed to his father that
he killed Charlie Kirk, did so because he viewed Charlie
Kirk as a fascist and he hated his opinions. Uh,
(15:02):
he wanted to silence him and he Uh. Just a
review of his of his social media posts and his
presence on digital media shows that he's a leftist. He's
a member of the Democratic Socialist Party and Socialist Socialist movement.
And if increasingly that seems to the pattern that we're
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seeing across the nation where I mean, just recently we
saw a trans several violent incidents involving trans shooters, most
recently in in a in a church where trans shooter
shot through a window, killing kids. So we're seeing we're
(15:46):
seeing also you're.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Also forgetting some of some of the incidents that that
people from the right have done also, especially in Minnesota,
was shooting in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well, and that that has not that's still in the
process of being investigated. That there's a lot of questions
regarding that. What we're talking about is what we're talking
about the things that happened most recently, which has been
leading which which which led up to this event that
happened on Wednesday, And so you know, it's it's becoming
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increasingly there are incidents that we can point to where
someone whosified with the rights politically has been involved in
an act of violence and the act of aggression. But
what we're seeing is we're seeing a very skewed balance.
We're increasingly what we're seeing is those who have engaged
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in this behavior appear to be people not either either
politically aligned with the left or who have identified identified
with a perspective and opinions that are antithetical or hostile
to the right. So it may not necessarily be that
they are adherents of leftist politics, but they are opposed
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and hostile to those who are on the conservative side
of the of the political aisle.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You don't think the president has inflamed a lot of
the divide the devices some of the things that you
said in the past.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I find it difficult to believe that anyone, much less
the President, expressing an opinion on an issue would be
a rationale for the kind of violence that we're seeing.
I can understand if the President of the United States
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or anyone else says anything that is contrary to a
particular opinion or a particular perspective, I can see that
leading to political action. I can see that leading to
grassroots or community based action. But what we're seeing almost
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on a consistent basis is people on the right speak,
and people on what something is people on the left
take violent action, and so it's become increasingly disparate and
unbalanced with regard to the outcome.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
That we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
So does President Trump say things that are inflammatory, yes.
Does President Trump say things that lead people to feel
emotions of frustration and anger, yes, Do any of those
things justify the kind of violence that we're seeing perpetrated
across our country. Absolutely not. And so we can't equate
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the actions of one side with the actions of the
other side. I think that what we've what we're missing.
The point of American democracy is to engage and debate,
find common ground, seek consensus, and work to build solutions
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that lift up the majority of the people. And while
while while many are continuing to engage in trying to
achieve exactly that, what we're seeing increasingly on the other side,
is very hostile response.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Engaged into violence, eating their opposition with.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Uh the worst of the worst, and inciting others and
emboldening and enabling others to carry out horrible acts of
violence and atrocities that are affecting people across the country.
It has to stop.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I'll leave it at that, Doctor Adam says, Hi, by
the way, I will say that, I will say this.
When I was talking to him about redistricting, he made
some of the points that you made, even though he
is on on on the liberal side. Yea, he made
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some of the same points you made on the on
the aspect of redistricting and timing of using the Sensus
as account.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
So you guys page like it or not, that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Yeah, I got to have you guys on at.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
The same time at some point.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I think that would be great. And you know, it's
interesting you mentioned him as a liberal. What we've seen
in America is that liberals and conservatives have a way
of working together, finding solutions, trying to find a compromise,
and trying to create opportunities for the vast majority. But
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we're not seeing We should not equate liberals with leftists,
because what we're seeing now is there there is a
there is another stripe of people on the left who
are not liberals, They're not Democrats, they're hardcore leftists, and
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that's where we're seeing the vast majority of this violence
come from. So, you know, I want to make absolutely clear,
Republicans have very little problem with liberals. We can handle
a regular liberal who just believes shares a lot of
the same values, just has a different perspective on how
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we solve some of the problems. But leftists are an
entirely different breed. And regarding what we saw happen in
Utah with Charlie Kirk and now the arrest of alleged
assassin Tyler Robinson, what we're seeing is we're seeing violent
leftists who are carrying out acts of violence because they
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have been emboldened and they have been enabled by people
saying that Republicans conservatives are fascists, not conservatives or Nazis.
Donald Trump is a dictator. This is the right wing
white supremacy movement. And when you tell people on the
left like that, when you tell them those words repeatedly,
(22:33):
they feel that they have permission, They feel that they
have a calling they feel that they have a mission
to go out and create these acts of violence and
to carry out these acts of violence, and so that
that's what we need to find a way to stop.
I think if liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats can
work together to find solutions for that and to work
(22:55):
on minimizing and eradicating violent leftism, I think we'll make
a huge progress for our country. So, you know, I
have no problem with doctor Ava, you know, being a liberal.
I'm I'm a conservative. I think we can find ways
to work together, but but our country needs to really
find a way to stop radical leftists.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Uh. And the way I always called you a liberal conservative.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
That's that's that's definitely one way. That's definitely one way
to to to think about it. I've always considered myself
to be a a rational conservative because I think that
we have we have issues that we need to solve.
We can't just say no, we're not going to do
(23:46):
anything about any of it. So we need to we
need to find solutions. But we can't do it if
if if one side is calling us, you know, a
blanket term Nazis or fascists, and that we're basically there's
no reason and to allow us to keep living so,
and we need to find a way to make that stop.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That was Republican strategist vlad David Duk on the death
of Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed on Wednesday.
There is a school of thought out there that says
to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty, we also need to
become corrupt, criminal, and cruel. To my very core, I
(24:28):
do not believe that to be the case, so I
look for inspiration from others. Let's take a listen to
what Martin Luther King said about fighting a illegal and
corrupt and criminal enemy. One of the things I constantly
returned to during dark times in my personal and public
(24:50):
life is a collection of sermons written by Martin Luther
King Junior called Strength to Love, and specifically a ger
on loving your enemies. I'm reading an excerpt from that sermon.
To our most bitter opponents, we say we shall match
your capacity to inflict suffering by our capacity to endure suffering.
(25:15):
We shall meet your physical force with soul force. Do
to us what you will, and we shall continue to
love you. We cannot, in all good conscious obey your
unjust laws, because non cooperation with evil is as much
a moral obligation as cooperation with good. Throw us in jail,
(25:36):
and we shall still love you. Send your hooded perpetrators
of violence into our community at the midnight hour and
beat us and leave us half dead, and we shall
still love you. But be ye assured that we will
wear you down by our capacity to suffer. One day
we shall win freedom, but not only for ourselves. We
(25:59):
shall so appeal to your heart and conscience that we
shall win you in the process, and our victory will
be a double victory. Love is the most durable power
in the world. Hi, this is Steve Gallington, producer and
host of The People's News. The People's News is people
(26:19):
powered news. We are free to report the unvarnished and
unspun truth and challenge the status quo of corporate propaganda
and social media advertising disguised as real news. Shiny new
one hour episodes of The People's News drop each Sunday
on The People's News podcast. Thanks for listening. The convicted
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felon Trump demanded it, and GOP Governor Greg Abbott and
the Texas GOP bowed to his wishes and passed redistricting
in a explosive special session. These newly approved maps which
give five more safe Republican districts to the convicted felon
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and to the Republican Party for Democrats, who are the
slim majority in the state. It affects minority communities, especially
around Dallas and Houston. For example, longtime Congressman Al Green
has had his district expanded to include Liberty County, which
is a Republican leaning area. Doctor Michael O. Adams is
(27:29):
the director of the Master of Public Affairs graduate program
at Texas Southern University's Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland's School of
Public Affairs. He has been speaking on the issue and
the future of democracy in Texas.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Yeah, that's a good question, because, of course, in Houston
you have the largest concentration of African Americans or Blacks
in this area out of one of two metroplexes, the
otherland being up in the Dallas Footwork Metroplexic and ironically
both of those were impacted with the redistricting process. And
(28:04):
I'll move from Houston to talk about Dallas and how
that's implicated both Dallas County and Terran County. But I've
been interviewed back and forth on this, and what I
always like to suggest, I think what we're seeing here
is a classic case or a master class in terms
of vote manipulation, in terms of where given the growth
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of Latinos and the black population in Texas following the
last census count and I think it was over increase
of over a million, there has been a concerted design
not only with this recycle of redistricting, but the last
mass of the twenty twenty one mass that were drawn.
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They are curently in litigation in federal coup in El Paso.
And so the Republican Party understands the growth of the
minority population in the state of Texas, who more than
likely will not be Republican voters. So what they've done
(29:20):
is to excuse me to manipulate the mass to make
sure that they would have a parson advantage inside of
these congressional districts. Now, the other part of that, we
know that we have a midterm election coming up, and
as the President of the United States, Donald Trump actually
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reached out to Greg Abbott and said that, well, hey,
I need five more seats. And as a result of that,
we knew that there was going to be a special
session to deal with the devastating floods that we have
and I think more than one hundred people may have
lost their lives, lives are they're missing, And so the
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legislature goes back into special session. And when they're in
the special session, UH, the registricting charge is added to
the agenda. And as we know, UH that only the
governor in the state of Texas. This is by the law,
and I teach teach this in Texas politics, only the
governor can call and convene a special session. And while
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they're in special session, UH, they're confined to the governor's agenda,
and if something needs to be added, is up to
the governor to add that agenda. So that's that's why
we hear UH in terms of looking at the redistrictant.
Now moving forward, do you do you do you have
a question or you want me to move to Houston
and talk about the impact in terms of.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Well, I was just I was just curious if if
if Trump didn't didn't put this on the on the
on the on the plate, would we have had a
special session?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Now we were going to have a special session anyway
to deal with the floods. All right, the question would
from you, uh, would be would the district have been
on the special session agenda? Is that understanding what you're asking?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically didn't have Oh if we didn't
have this flood, would we have had a special session?
Of gain with you? What do you just what do
you still call a special session?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
Well, most people don't understand. According to the US Constitution,
we are supposed to count the population based on what
we call a decential basis. That's every ten years. That's
in the Constitution to deal with the apportionment of the
House of Representatives in terms of we count people. And
I tell my students all the time because sometimes redistricting
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is not understood, and I'm hoping what the only positive
things can come from this is that people will know
about redistricting and how the implications that had for politics
h and how it governs their lives and also in
terms of resources coming into their state. All right, now,
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we have five hundred and thirty five members of the Congress,
and we have a bi camer Congress, two chambers in
the House of Representatives. The representation there is based upon
population is proportional and in all four hundred and thirty
five members of the House of Representatives should represent approximately
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the same number of people. So we know that people
move in population swales, all right. So we've seen growth
in population in California, which is the largest in terms
of population. They have the largest delegation of more than
fifty members of the Congress of the House Representatives. And
then the state of Texas we have thirty eight and
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the population there. In Florida, the population is gone. So
people will move from Rush Belts states, they'll come from Michigan,
they'll come from other people. So those states can lose representation.
Because what you do how you get to the desirable
number of how many people each member of the House
of Representatives should represent. You take four thirty five and
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you divide that into the population of the United States
of America, and so the ideal population will be between
eight hundred and nine hundred thousand for each congressional district.
And that's the way we come up with that number,
all right. And there's no mathematical exactness, like we'll say
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eight fifty if that's the number. We know that CIVI
or Garcia may have eight forty, or Algreen could have
eight twenty, So the Supreme Court will allow for what
we call some deviation, and normally that deviation is within
ten percent. However, you cannot have one member of Congress
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represents any four hundred people, and if you have one
of the other congress persons representing eight hundred, because why
because a person with one hundred four hundred here's or
her vote would be twice the impact. So it has
to be equal in terms of population. So that's the
standard formula, and so people have to understand that. So
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when they draw these districts. Now, the US Supreme Court
doesn't restrict them from calling redistricting the districts at any time,
and most people understand that. And normally what has happened
in the past is after the census has taken every
ten years, that's in your basis, that's in the constitution.
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Where then after that, normally during the first year twenty
twenty one when Texas did it, that's when they will
draw new maps to account for population changes, all right,
And so what we have seen in recent years is
mid term redistricting. And I'm going around in the world
and answer your question, because first I'm an academic and
(35:02):
I'm a professor, and I have to teach you all
of these things, right, So, uh, yes, it's nothing wrong
with what they're doing in terms of redistrictings. So to
answer your question, what they have done and now I
don't think so if if TOOMP had not to make
that call. So that's what.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, you mentioned. You mentioned the Supreme Court and the Constitution,
And what I've seen is that what this president has
done is rechanged and restructure the Constitution and restructure the
Supreme Court all decisions that's that they're being made right now.
So you might want to explain how some people say this.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Is racist, Well, well, you know, I have to and again,
and I think that's one of the reasons I said
that I wasn't going to talk about what happened with
Charlie Kirk and whatever. But we get a lot of
misinformation and everything. Right now, you don't restructure as a
formal process for restructure and changing the Constitution, we call
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that the amendment process. If they want to do a
total reright, they have to have a convention. Now they
prevent provisions in the Constitution for doing both of those things.
All right now, the Constitution is a living document that
is subject to interpretation. And we believe that we're supposed
to have this neutral Supreme Court or this umpire if
(36:27):
you will, which is the third branch of government, and
it was given the power of judicial review. That's what means.
It has the power to interpret the Constitution and also
deal with federal questions or disputes between states. Now is
the Supreme Court politicized? Are they human beings? Yes, they are.
They come with persuasion and the presidents will appoint people
(36:51):
to the Supreme Court based upon whether or not those
potential justices that they place on the bench will reflect
what we call their judicial temperament. Now what do we
mean by the judicial temperament. That's a philosophical point of
view in terms of politics, whether they're a liberal, conservative,
or Republican. What we have seen in recent years, and
(37:14):
Obama didn't get the right to appoint Merry Galland, but
we've seen I don't want to say the packing of
the court, but adding of a Republican majority. And Trump
was able to add members to the Supreme Court, and
we had one the senator from Kentucky was Adam On
but then allow Obama to appoint Mary Garland. But however,
(37:41):
I think you can't just really blame the senator from Kentucky.
But ruthe batea Ginsburg. She just stayed on there forever,
all right, and then when she came off, that allows somebody.
So some of these times, if you're strategic, if you're
a Supreme Court justice, and you know you're a liberal persuasion,
and if you have a person, if you're believing in
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terms of a Democrat, would appoint somebody more left the
center as opposed to being a writer center, then why
you just don't stay on message forever? All right? So
you come off all right. So that's what we've seen
in terms of the remaking of the court, all right.
But Trump is not changing the constitution all right in
terms of the right as a formal process for that then,
(38:25):
But he's writing a lot of executive orders to get
around a number of things now and when these challenges
are calling into place, he's winning in the Supreme Court
because there's a court that is more of a kind
of conservative Supreme Court right to the right, right, some
people say extreme. So I'll start there right talk about
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Texas in terms of how the maps in terms of
what we see in Houston.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, I want to talk about that. But also
I just want to back up a bit that when
you say Gainsburg to to the to the left earlier,
I mean I don't understand. I mean she didn't know
what health was gonna get. We're gonna get his as
he was. I've heard criticism admiration for her, right, But
(39:15):
when you know that you're an objective, uh, after you
know you're in your eighties or whatever, just like Biden,
we can go. And we saw uh, his vice president
release a book this week, and now she's come out
and said something that it was basically a disaster for
him to stay there that long. And I'm talking about
Kamala Harris in terms of talking bike right.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Uh and and and some people are speaking out in
terms of what we may see, what's gonna what's gonna
happen in the eighteenth congressional district. And I'll get more
into that because al Green's district, a sizeable portion from
the ninth has been moved into the eighteenth County. Gotten
that when you when we talk about we distant, you
should have booked me for the day because that's a
lot that's that's taken place as a result of this.
(39:56):
So let's go back to the mass. Let's start in Houston. Person,
I tell you it's become with the new mass would
become Republican, right, because they've included more Republican voters. And
so they took a large chunk out of the ninth
Congressional district, the black people moved them into the eighteenth
Congressional district. So the eighteenth Congressional district will remain even
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under the new MAST, a majority opportunity district for black people,
all right. Actually it increased the numbers because they were
more Hispanics than blacks in the under the current configuration
of the district. Okay, and so what would do we
call that, Well, in redistrict and parlass, we call call
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that cracking and packing. So they cracked the nineteenth, took
the black voters, moved them into the eighteenth. So they
packed that concentrated them, all right, as opposed to splitting
them up having more blacks in the night district where
you get too black members of Congress, Now you will
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only have one that was the aim, and that will
probably will be the eighteenth Congressional District. That's where they
move most of the black folks out of the ninth
congrati district out of that. Now, whether they do for
the twenty ninth district, they move more Latinos in that district,
and it gives the appearance that it's a Hispanic opportunity district.
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What we mean by what I mean by opportunity district
is where Hispanic candidates were to run and then they
have a good chance of winning a majority in terms
of the voting age population, voting age populations people eighteen
years of age older and registered voters. Well, a large
number of citizens in the twenty nine and even in
the ninth district to a certain extent, they may not
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even be citizens, or the voting age population may not
be may not favor Hispanics. So that's an illusion there.
What they did to the twenty nine, they did leave
a significant black population in that and then runs on
the north side. And what I think could happened is
that a black person could win that Democratic primary in
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the twenty ninth district, And there are a number of
people I know who are looking into it. I think
Javis Johnson is maybe considering running for the twenty ninth
as opposed to running for the eighteen congressional district because
he didn't file for the eighteen congressional district in the
primary because Latinos and Hispanics they don't turn out, and
so that may be one of the problems. So if
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the black people in that newly configured twenty ninth districts,
the one that Sylvia Garcia represents, now, if they turned
out in the primary, which will more than life, it'll
be a low turnout election. All right, you can nominate
a black person. So that's where we are in the
Houston area in terms of the implication of the new maps,
(42:57):
of the new maps, but it's going to so it's
a ball of fusion because you have this special elections
for the alternacy and people in the eighteenth congressional district.
So oh no, I don't know. Then they change my Matt,
So they're listening to what happened recently. But no, they're
still in the eighteenth.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Congressional district as it currently exists, so they'll be able
to build it in that. But whoever win that election
will have to come right back and fiul you know,
in December before yeah, right after the election, they have
to file to run in the in the twenty twenty
six primaries, and so what I'm saying the person.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Who win, and we know that's people in the league
who have the best chances. Krista Menafee, Amanda Edwards and
the month here. Lace is running as a Republican and
we have some independence running right, but they're going to
have to come back and they have a face al Green.
So that's what I'm saying because Al Green, you know
(43:57):
people that power, man, you know, you get addicted to it.
You don't want to lead Congress, right, you don't want
to retire. So so that's where we are in terms
of today.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
That was doctor Michael O. Adams. He is the director
of the Master of Public Affairs Graduate program at TSU's
Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs. The bombing
of Iran by the US and Israel set off alarms
around the world and ignited protests, but one community stood
firm as an advocate of regime change in the country.
(44:29):
The Persian community in the US is standing strong in
their denouncement of the regime in Iran and the need
for a replacement. There have been protests around the country
and the world from the Persian community calling for more
governments to participate in overthrowing the current Iranian regime in Texas.
We talked to one person that represents the Persian community,
(44:52):
Kareem Sanjanay with the Iran Solidarity American Community of Texas.
Speaker 7 (44:59):
Thank go short for everything you do. I appreciate that
for your concern and your support. However, yes, and this
is Kareem Zangane with the Iranian American Communities of Texas
and the supporting the n cri I National Council of
Resistance of Iran. The only alternative that this organized is
(45:24):
strong inside Iran that we're hoping that soon overthrow this
fascist regime. So yes, we had this huge gathering demonstration,
tens of thousands of Iranians from around the Europe. They
come to Brussel and supporting the n cri I and
(45:51):
celebrating the sixties birthday of any k Mu driving help
when they formed in the previous dictatorship and against the
show they've fired for fourteen years and then now forty
seven years fighting against this fascist regime, this regime because
(46:12):
it's vulnerable. In week, especially in the last twelve days
of war, it was shown to the entire world that
how weak and vulnerable they are. However, they are escalating
the killing people. Institution is every day, fifteen twenty whatever,
the execute every day in order to keep the people
(46:35):
from off of the street, because the people really to
overthrow the regime. So this is the situation he has
like were condemning, were condemning this. We have another demonstration,
by the way, it's coming on in New York in
front of you, and for General Assembly that is going
(46:58):
on twenty four in front of you. And for the
same purpose as we are asking this administration to to
not give the visa to this creamin of that who
come to the United States, and they have to given
(47:19):
the platform to to lie to the world leaders about
the situation that is going on in ill So we
we have, you know, as you know, in this doministation
that we have, we had in the lusion. You have
the great guests, we have Vice President Pence, we have Bipolis,
(47:44):
and by the way, we have Vice President and Pence.
We have a Speaker of the Speaker and the Leader
of the Chief of the United Kingdom Parliament. I believe
ten fifty in years mister John Big Big Coup, and
(48:07):
then the Pathrick Patrick Trinity for example, and many orders
that they're supporting. And they were there with Miss Mariam
Graderi and they speak to the to the demonstrators. So
this is what will happened last last weekend and and
Toori and plenty for are going in new and that's
going to be huge. I would like to keep us
(48:29):
as if you can, that could be a great support.
So yeah, we are we are demanding region changes ran.
We we say there is no one needed the we
and we we don't need any support of any.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Kind of.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Support as far as the money or weapon war is necessary.
We are we we say there is an option that
is a third option that our resistance is. Option for
Iran is just support people to overthrow the region. Recognize
(49:08):
the rights of people to overthrow the regime. This is
what we want from this administration or any other administration too,
to lead this this legitimate right. So we said that
(49:30):
in the we be saying because this is the fact
that there is only one alternative, Richard, that is the
you have experience, they have vision, they have ten ten
point planned for the future Iran, which is the power
(49:50):
is going to go through the people rather than to
be either in monarchy or this region fascist regime. So
that's what we say is and the people, the people
want to have a democratic, secular, nonpublish that's what it is.
That the people no to sha, no to mon. That
(50:13):
that's how their slogan is in over over Iran. If
you have any particular question, I'd be glad to.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
I mean, you said that, you said that.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
You can, you don't.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
You don't need any arms, you don't need any type
of military backing. How would you well around around right now?
I still have one of the largest armies in the
in the in the world and they have uh foxy
proxy groups that work with you. So how how are
(50:48):
you how are you going to go in Ran and
take over the country again without any type of military backing?
Speaker 7 (50:56):
Okay, se very great, great question. Actually this is question
that the many many people even are politicians here. So
you know, first of all, you know, the most power
in any country is the power of people. That's the
number one number. This regime is being shown, especially after
(51:17):
twelve days of war after his Bola it was demolished
after the assad that it was the they are and
we all thought he has some power. But in ten
days the class this is this was the multi billion
dollar money that they spent not only on atomic project
(51:40):
but also on bachoral Asad and all evaporate. So you know,
now if the world knows, that's how vulnerable and and
week this regime is, and that's how the people. People
are iron they understand that. That's why they are in
the street. That's why the regime find out. The only
(52:01):
the only pool I have to send the power is
to execute people. Since since in the since this president
came into power, for about the year, about seventeen hundred people,
seventeen hundred people have been executed. Why people doesn't have electricity,
(52:23):
doesn't have water, doesn't have bread on the table. We
mentioned that before. And this regime is it cannot provide
any of that. The only thing is to execute people
to stay in the power. So yeah, people are in
the street. There is no war, there is no war needed.
The biggest war is between the Iranian people and against
(52:44):
the regime.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
That's the biggest war.
Speaker 7 (52:46):
The main thing is that in any foreign countries to
go in and have war which is not needed, they
need to just support morally, recognize the right of people
to work through a decision, right of the people to
confront the IRGC as they are in why they don't
(53:08):
support the people and the right to confront the IRGC
to work throughout. I understand that, but you're you it's
the idea, that's the idea of you would think that
you know that you have people to support, and that's
not all the people are going to come out and
support support a new regime. One two.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
The people that that that you say will come out, Uh,
A lot is still divided into different different factions. And
and to say that, to say that everybody assigned with
a signe, which your faction is kind of it is
saying a lot, you know, was asking a lot from
the people there. And also we notice ecret police and
(53:55):
ran right now, how they operate. You know, they have
no problem taking people into the jails. So again, you know,
militarily you're saying that you don't need anything, you know,
but I was, I'm looking at the reality of the
whole situation.
Speaker 7 (54:16):
No, it does exactly, That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, Richard,
you know the factor that it is last majority of
the people. If I tell you over ninety five personal
people doesn't want this regime. They are against them because
they cannot provide them the simplest things, as far as
(54:37):
it was an electricity and clear here bread and the
long time eight percent of the people on the poverty line,
I mean severe pacty line, not the policy line that
you'd explained here, the severe poverty line. So people are
against them, people are against them, and then and the
(55:00):
regime is weak. Yeah, how much they can take to
the jail, how much they can execute, you know, So
that's that's the only tool they have. What we do,
what they're asking the Western country and the United States
of America from both both parties, so to to support
the rights of the people to overthrow the regime, because
(55:22):
this regime is shown that it's not only enemy of
the Iranian people, but is enemy of the peace and
security and the stability of anywhere in the in the
in the region and around the world. Tororism is the
tool they have abroad and killing execution of the people
inside Iran. So those are has to be recognized by
Western country world. So the little Iranian decisions for themselves,
(55:48):
as you know, you know, well, you know, in fifty
seventy three people uprising for them and the monarchy, but
state and UK intervention and then they the coup and
(56:10):
I'm brought down the democratic and doctor Mossade you know that. Well,
so we don't want that. People are now they know
what they want. They want freedom and democracy, and they
want the free world to support them morally. That's the
best way with no cost to the United States, with
no cost to go to war, with no cost in
(56:32):
for any country.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
All Right, see, I'm gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
Thank you so much for taking phone call. I have
to shay that again, Richard, and thank you so much
for everything you do. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
That was Kareem Sanjaney with the Iran Solidarity American Community
of Texas who says it's time for change in Iran.
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